cover of episode E157: Epic legal win, OpenAI licensing deals, FCC targets Elon, Alex Jones reinstated & more

E157: Epic legal win, OpenAI licensing deals, FCC targets Elon, Alex Jones reinstated & more

2023/12/16
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All-In with Chamath, Jason, Sacks & Friedberg

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Chamath Palihapitiya
以深刻的投资见解和社会资本主义理念而闻名的风险投资家和企业家。
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David Friedberg
美国企业家、商人和天使投资者,创立并领导了The Climate Corporation和The Production Board。
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David Sacks
一位在房地产法和技术政策领域都有影响力的律师和学者。
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Jay Cal
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Jay Cal:本期节目讨论了Epic Games胜诉谷歌的反垄断案,以及OpenAI与新闻机构签订的授权协议等科技新闻。谷歌应用商店和苹果应用商店的营收规模巨大,Epic Games的诉讼目标是改变应用商店的经营模式,降低对开发者的收费比例。OpenAI与新闻机构的合作是内容整合,而非训练数据,这代表了新的互联网运作模式。 David Friedberg:Epic Games诉谷歌案与苹果案不同,谷歌允许第三方应用商店,Epic Games指控谷歌利用安全警告吓退消费者,阻止其绕过谷歌应用商店直接下载应用。尽管Epic Games胜诉,但谷歌可能会上诉,市场反应也较为平静,暗示此案影响有限。OpenAI与新闻机构的协议是内容整合协议,而非训练数据协议,这代表了一种新的互联网运作模式。 Chamath Palihapitiya:Epic Games诉谷歌案的结果可能因审判地点和形式而异,Epic Games并未寻求赔偿,而是希望改变谷歌的经营行为。应用商店是垄断企业,其行为需要受到控制,但政府不应该干预私人企业的言论审查。 David Sacks:应用商店是垄断企业,其行为需要受到控制,Epic Games的举动对整个生态系统有利。使用公开网络数据训练模型并不意味着可以免除获得许可的义务。对言论的判断需要考虑其造成的实际危害,终身禁言并非最佳解决方案。

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Epic Games wins a significant legal battle against Google's Play Store practices. The jury's decision raises questions about the future of app store monopolies and their impact on developers. The discussion explores the implications for the startup ecosystem and the potential for further legal action.
  • Google's Play Store generates $50 billion annually.
  • Jury found Google violated antitrust laws through sweetheart deals.
  • Epic Games is not seeking damages but aims for policy changes.

Shownotes Transcript

(0:00) Bestie intros: Mullets!

(2:56) Recapping Friedberg's holiday party

(9:29) Jury rules in favor of Epic Games over Google: How to handle the app store duopoly?

(23:21) OpenAI inks deal with Axel Springer

(35:02) FCC cancels Starlink subsidy, dissenting FCC Commissioner says federal agencies are targeting Elon Musk on Biden's orders

(58:25) Alex Jones reinstated on X

(1:22:59) Sacks receives an unlikely apology

(1:27:32) Besties take two questions from the audience

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