cover of episode E147: TED goes woke, Canada's Nazi blunder, AI adds vision, plus: who owns OpenAI?

E147: TED goes woke, Canada's Nazi blunder, AI adds vision, plus: who owns OpenAI?

2023/9/29
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Chamath Palihapitiya
以深刻的投资见解和社会资本主义理念而闻名的风险投资家和企业家。
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Coleman Hughes
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David Sacks
一位在房地产法和技术政策领域都有影响力的律师和学者。
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Jason Calacanis
一位多才多艺的美国互联网企业家、天使投资人和播客主持人,投资过多家知名初创公司,并主持多个影响广泛的播客节目。
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Coleman Hughes: 本人TED演讲的核心观点是提倡颜色盲目,主张在公共政策中优先考虑阶级而非种族。演讲引发争议,被部分人士指责为种族主义和危险的,但作者认为批评不公正,并指出演讲内容并未出现事实错误。作者认为TED对演讲的压制和低观看量是由于演讲内容让部分员工感到不安,而非基于事实或逻辑错误。 David Sacks: 长期以来观察到TED演讲内容逐渐转向社会正义,缺乏多元观点,演讲中缺乏对不同政治观点的平衡呈现。作者认为,TED的这种转变反映了机构内部意识形态的转变,以及领导层在面对员工压力时未能坚持机构价值观。 Chamath Palihapitiya: 批评Chris Anderson对事件回应中存在的逻辑错误,认为其将听到不同意见与造成伤害混为一谈,这导致了言论审查。作者认为,允许那些声称被冒犯的人否决演讲,会破坏思想市场机制。

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Coleman Hughes discusses his TED Talk experience, the controversy it sparked, and the broader issues of ideological capture within institutions like TED. The hosts discuss the talk's content, audience reactions, and the implications for free speech and open discourse. They also delve into the suppression of the talk's views on the TED platform and the subsequent debate with a New York Times columnist.
  • Coleman Hughes' TED Talk, "A Case for Color Blindness," sparked controversy among TED staff.
  • TED's initial response involved proposals to attach a debate to the talk or release it alongside a counter-argument.
  • Hughes argues for color blindness in personal lives and public policy, suggesting class-based policies over race-based ones.
  • The talk was suppressed on TED's platform, receiving significantly fewer views compared to other talks released around the same time.
  • The hosts and Hughes discuss the potential for institutional capture from the bottom up, where staff ideologies influence organizational values.
  • They explore the idea that offense does not justify suppression of speech, emphasizing the importance of open discourse.
  • Hughes suggests that strong emotional reactions to his talk might stem from the threat it poses to those invested in race-based DEI initiatives.
  • The hosts praise Hughes' talk, sharing personal anecdotes about their own experiences with racism and classism.
  • The discussion also touches on the history of TED and its shift towards a more social justice-oriented focus, raising concerns about ideological homogeneity.

Shownotes Transcript

(0:00) Bestie intros with Coleman Hughes

(1:12) Coleman's experience with TED, Understanding TED's ideological shift

(15:11) Focusing on class instead of race when enacting policies, reaction to Coleman's talk, institutional takeovers

(44:01) "When Virtue Signalling Goes Wrong": Canadian parliament cheers for a Nazi

(1:04:21) OpenAI's big week, informed speculation on Sam Altman's actual ownership of OpenAI

(1:12:39) The next evolution of AI: multimodal and consumer hardware

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