cover of episode E118: AI FOMO frenzy, macro update, Fox vs Dominion, US vs China & more with Brad Gerstner

E118: AI FOMO frenzy, macro update, Fox vs Dominion, US vs China & more with Brad Gerstner

2023/3/3
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Brad Gerstner:AI是下一个平台性技术变革,但投资回报存在不确定性,需要谨慎选择投资标的。当前宏观经济形势存在不确定性,通货膨胀和利率是主要关注点。中美竞争日益激烈,TikTok禁令是其中一个体现。 Chamath Palihapitiya:风险投资面临巨大压力,因为无风险利率上升,LPs要求更高的回报。AI投资热潮可能导致投资决策不理性,造成投资组合过度集中。宏观经济形势存在不确定性,通货膨胀和利率是主要关注点。 David Sacks:AI是下一个重要的平台性技术变革,但投资回报的不确定性依然存在。科技公司正在效仿Elon Musk的管理风格,更加关注效率和盈利能力。中美竞争日益激烈,TikTok禁令是其中一个体现。 Brad Gerstner:AI领域的投资规模巨大,但投资回报存在不确定性,类似于互联网早期投资的局面。大型语言模型的投资存在不确定性,难以预测哪个公司会成为赢家,类似于互联网早期搜索引擎的投资。 Chamath Palihapitiya:由于无风险利率上升,风险投资面临压力,导致投资决策可能不理性,造成投资组合过度集中。长期投资者(LPs)拥有长期视野,能够更好地应对短期市场波动,并继续投资具有长期增长潜力的企业。私募市场正在经历整合,规模较小、业绩不佳的基金将面临挑战。 David Sacks:AI是下一个重要的平台性技术变革,但投资回报的不确定性依然存在。科技公司正在效仿Elon Musk的管理风格,更加关注效率和盈利能力。 Brad Gerstner:私募市场将出现两极分化,部分公司将获得新一轮融资,而另一些公司则需要进行重组或减记。风险投资公司退出董事会通常意味着对公司发展前景的担忧,但创始人应该优先考虑员工的利益。创始人应该优先考虑员工的利益,而不是投资者的利益,在公司重组时应公平对待员工。当前风险投资市场与以往不同,资金充裕导致投资决策缺乏理性,而以往的投资更注重选择性。 Chamath Palihapitiya:债券市场对通货膨胀的预期发生了转变,表明市场对通货膨胀持续时间更长的担忧。市场对通货膨胀的预期发生了变化,预计利率将维持在较高水平更长时间。市场对通货膨胀的预期与实际情况存在偏差,投资者应该关注市场共识的反面。 David Sacks:标普500公司公布的净收入与实际现金流之间存在巨大差距,表明财务报表存在一定程度的粉饰。

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The episode discusses the current AI FOMO frenzy, the massive influx of investment, and the potential for over-investment and market correction.
  • AI is seen as the next big platform shift, similar to the internet and mobile.
  • There is a concern about over-investment and the potential for many AI startups to fail.
  • The cost of capital and the pressure on venture investors to deploy funds are significant factors.

Shownotes Transcript

(0:00) Bestie intros!

(6:47) The VC FOMO frenzy in AI

(25:22) Current LP mindset, VCs leaving boards, startup cram downs and mark downs

(37:23) Macro update: inflation not done, weaker earnings, interest rates

(52:01) Marc Benioff channels his inner Elon Musk, the stock-based compensation boom

(1:11:59) Fox News facing defamation lawsuit over false election fraud claims, TikTok ban heats up, competition with China

(1:34:33) Ukraine update: China's peace proposal, US strategy

(1:46:34) Harvard legacy admissions, Draymond Green on Black History Month

(1:50:01) Stripe chart errata, bestie wrap!

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