The Cookie Monster KILLER: Harrison Frank Graham
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Hi friends, how are you today? My name is Bailey Sarian and today's Monday, which means it's Murder, Mystery, and Makeup Monday. If you don't know, I'm going to be talking about a true crime story that's been heavy on my noggin and do my makeup at the same time. If you're interested in true crime and you're interested in makeup, I would highly suggest you subscribe because I'm here for you on Mondays. First of all, I just want to apologize in advance.

for perhaps ruining the way that you see a beloved children's character. At least one of my favorite characters. Today's story is about a very, very sad soul who some people have called the Cookie Monster. That was his killer name. Or like he also went by the Cookie Monster Killer. Cookies?

Cookies? Yeah. Okay, so today's story. Let me tell you about it. Okay, so this guy's name is like the Cookie Monster. Eye roll, you know? So if that silly nickname isn't to your liking. He also went by the Death House Killer. It was another name given to this bozo. Or even the Corpse Collector.

which I feel like that one was more spot on. But it makes you think, huh? Like who in the hell is in charge of like naming these people, right? Is there like a designated serial killer namer? Is that a position out there? Because I believe I would be pretty good at it.

I would give them like a more honest name, you know? Like, uh, the Freaky Deaky Ding Dong Kill- no, um, the Questionable Neighbor Killer. Or like, uh, the Bitch Killed Her Babies Killer. I don't know, they just always try to be like really cute with it, right? Wow, I'm already off track. So, today's story is about a guy named Harrison Frank Graham. He mainly went by his nickname, which was Marty. Yeah.

I guess Marty is like short for Harrison or something. I don't know. But I'm going to be calling him Marty from now on. So Marty was born September 9th, 1959 in Philadelphia, Pennsylvania. Now his mother, when Marty was born, she was quite young. She was 16 years old. Her name was Lillian, Lillian Graham. And because she was so young, you know, she really struggled financially.

to not only take care of herself, but also her baby. Her baby, what's his name? Marty. She couldn't, she just struggled, poor thing. So Lillian tried her best to take care of Marty, but by the time he was two years old, she decided it would be best to place him into foster care. And I mean, there really is no way to know everything he was subjected to in those first couple of years, you know?

I mean, nobody really has any idea, but Marty later on, he would say later on in his life, he would say he was subjected to all types of different forms of abuse while in the foster care system. And sadly, I hate even saying this, but it's so true. It's just like, sadly, you just hear that a lot. And there's like,

The system is just so fucked. I hate it. He used to live in this place. Our neighbor. Should I even tell this story? Yeah, I mean, it's honest. The lady who lived in the back, she was a foster parent to these two younger girls. And this woman, she obviously was not okay. She was not okay.

And she would constantly yell and scream and like beat these kids. And me and who I was living with, we witnessed it. And we called CPS numerous times. There was even one time where one of the sisters was chasing the other sister around with a chainsaw.

Not lying. You probably think I'm kidding and I am not She was literally she it's not funny called CPS they come out they interview you But then there's nothing they can do because when they go interview the girls they're like everything's fine that girl's lying It's just such it's just Fucked up. It's so fucked up. What I'm getting at is just the foster care system sucks, and it's really sad so

when somebody tells you they were most likely abused in the foster care system, I would 100% believe them, you know? So sadly, Marty's time growing up in the system was pretty similar to what you hear a lot of the times where they bounce from like foster care home to foster care home. There's really not a lot of like stability. And Marty would say this, like he went through this until he was about seven years old.

just bouncing around from home to home no stability different types of abuse not a great time so at the age of seven is when he landed in with a different like foster parent and her name was Pauline Williams it was um this foster mother of his and this was like the first time when he had some kind of stability in his life and she was somewhat loving which you know I was like

small win here. So his biological mother, Lillian, ended up having like four more kids. So her hands were

Definitely full. There's no record that he went back into her care as like a young boy, but I think they were still in each other's lives at least because his mother, Lillian, she knew like what was going on. For example, when Marty was about 12 years old in 1971, he was sent to Philadelphia General Hospital for a mental disorder. Now this was like according to her. And I guess he ended up staying there until he was 14. Because he's a minor, obviously you can't look up

The records, like if he did indeed stay at the hospital or not, the records would be sealed. But I think there's some truth in there because it is public record that Marty definitely had his fair share of mental health issues as well as developmental delays.

So later on in Marty's life, he got his IQ tested where he would end up scoring a 63. Yeah, poor guy. So like a 63, it essentially shows like a significant intellectual disability. Like the average score for an IQ test is anywhere from 83 to 110. Anything below a 70 is considered low.

you know, a little rough. So the doctors that evaluated Marty said that he was hovering at like a third grade level of development. Or in other words, like he had a brain of a nine year old. He didn't know how to like read a clock or like read in general. And you know, without these like foundational life skills, life is not easy.

Very hard. So by the time Marty gets to high school, he decides, I think he just stops going. Like I read sources that said he decides to drop out. I don't think he really decided. I think he just dropped out. You know what I'm saying? Like he just stops going. I mean, it wasn't a place for him. I mean, so many systems had already failed Marty. So I'm sure you could probably imagine that he didn't find a lot of support within like the public school system in the early 70s. You know what I'm saying?

You know what I'm saying. Life was not setting poor Marty up for success. So this part's a little foggy, but after dropping out of high school, sources say that he was like living on the streets. And for the first time, he kind of found his place at home on the streets because it was sadly a lot of people with like a mental illness. He was welcomed there. And this is where he found a quote unquote home.

For himself. So yeah, for the first time he said he found- he felt like he found somewhere that he belonged on the streets. Hmm.

It's how you internet. Check availability today.

So he's living on the streets for a little bit and guess who he, guess who finds him, I would say. This is when he meets a pimp. So this guy, this man befriends Marty and ends up taking him under his wing. Pisses me off.

And then this is sad. I mean, Marty is kind of like the perfect target. He doesn't have a home. He's easy to take advantage of. And this guy, he sees it. So Marty and this guy, this grown ass man, they would spend a lot of time together. And Marty would say like, this was the first time that he ever fell in love, like true love.

I mean this man who was quote unquote taking care of him took him like off of the streets and under his wing and eventually it led to like them two becoming sexual lovers, Marty and this pimp guy. Marty said it was the first time he ever felt deeply loved in return. It's just so sad. Ugh.

I mean, he felt this to be true, you know? Marty was exactly where this guy wanted him to be. Again, not much is like said about this time during Marty's life, but we know what happened. But word gets back to Marty's biological mother. So she somehow finds out like what Marty's doing. Like he's on the street.

she's working for a pimp all that stuff you know and she decides she's gonna step in lillian marty's mom she finds out what he's doing and at this time in her life she's like a lot more stable you know she's a little bit older she has her together and she had found god

She was deeply religious. And when she found out what was going on with her son, she was like, "I gotta help him. I gotta get my son out of this." Just out of his immoral lifestyle, you know? So she's able to contact Morty and tell him to come back home where she could help him get his life back on track. When he is about 15 or 16 years old, he ends up moving back into his mother's home. He starts attending church with her.

And he ends up getting a job working in construction. Good for him. His life really did like a 180 real quick and in a positive way, you know? At this point, I was like, go Marty. And then I always forget like, oh yeah, this is about murder. So shit. Anyways, his mother was just very hopeful that her son would break free of his past and now live happily.

as like a man of God. He's going to church with her. He's reading the Bible. Come on now. Praise God. And actually, no twist here. Marty, he starts to thrive. Yes, he does. While he's working construction, he like learned a lot of, you know, construction stuff, like things to do around the house. Handyman skills. You know what I'm saying? Like he's fixing sinks. He's doing stuff with pipes.

Oops, screws. You get it. So not only did this work like keep him busy, but he's also starting to make like a steady income for the first time. And he gets to a point where he can financially afford to move out of his mother's house and live on his own.

Good for him, good for him, adult life, it's happening. Because of this, Marty was now able to move into his own place on a street of old school, it was old school like row houses in the lower North Philadelphia area. So in 1977, when our story takes place, this neighborhood where Marty was gonna be living was poverty stricken

And many of the apartments and houses were just like completely abandoned.

The buildings itself, like all around were just in complete disrepair. But Marty would have like neighbors and it's what he could afford. So he just moved right in. When Marty moved in, he became quite familiar with the neighbors and also got to know all of their kids. He would often work as like a handyman around the neighbors' places whenever they asked for help. Like, "Hey, my sink doesn't work. Can you check it out, Marty?"

Marty would be happy to. It was said Marty also liked to play outside with the neighborhood kids in not a creepy way. I know, at least for me, my brain wants to assume the worst. When I heard that, I was like, oh great.

But not in this case. He would like go outside and play basketball or go on walks with the kids. And he just really connected with them and really liked them. He was cute, kinda. Many sources say because Marty had the brain of, you know, like a nine-year-old, it came easy for him.

These kids were kind of like his people. Again, things are going quite well for Marty at this point. He has steady work. He has his own place. The neighbors love him. I mean, he's thriving. Good for you, Marty. Good for you. For now. You know, he's just doing well. And honestly,

I wish that was the end of the story and I could be like, "Thank you, have a great day." You know? But yeah, something dark, very dark is about to go down, bitch. So a big reason why things take a turn for Marty was that he had some serious mental health issues that were lingering and going untreated

over time, you know? On top of his low IQ, he was also diagnosed with multiple personality disorder, which is now called Dissociative Identity Disorder. Dissociative Identity Disorder, or DID for short,

is usually a reaction to trauma as a way to help a person avoid those traumatic or like really bad memories. DID is characterized by the presence of two or more distinct personality identities. And each personality may have its own unique name, personal history, and different characteristics.

Unfortunately, DID is not curable, but can be treated with the proper therapy. You know what I'm saying? In summary, DID is usually a result of like massive trauma, which sadly for Marty, he definitely experienced. You know, sad. I mean, especially during the time when he was working with that pimp guy, I guess Marty would experience a lot of like sexual abuse with many different people. Yeah,

I mean, this guy was also pimping Marty out, which is awful. And I'm not sure if pimp is still like the proper term. It just feels so old school, you know? Pimp. I looked online, but I couldn't come across anything other than the term trafficker. Online sources, different websites said like pimping and trafficking are not the same. Sense of pimp tends to groom differently. So I guess pimp is the tech, like still the word. It just,

Doesn't it sound so theatrical and like not as terrible as it really is? You know, they need a rebrand. Anyways, I'm getting off course, I apologize. But Marty was pimped and slash or trafficked out to many different people. And Lord only knows what he really experienced there, you know? So him developing different personalities,

Kind of makes sense in a way, you know? He just needed to escape all of that trauma he experienced. And it's just sad. Because it's not his fault he fell victim to, like, this awful man. And the system and everything, you know? It's just, like, so...

Shitty. So later on in life, when Marty was officially diagnosed with DID, the doctors who examined him for the most part said there was no way that he was faking it, even going on to say that he didn't have the IQ to even know how to fake it. I mention that because unfortunately there's people out there who think people fake this mental illness. It's just like so stupid. It's like if someone's hurting, why don't you believe them? I don't get it.

So once Marty's out living on his own, getting into the groove of like being an adult and stuff, you know, that's when these three different personalities start to surface and make their appearance. So who are these personalities you ask? Well, let me tell you. So his first and main personality was who he legitimately is, like Marty, right? This is his personality. Now Marty,

He's a kind, good Christian man. He loved to help his neighbors. He loved to fix things up. He also greatly loved his mother. The people in Marty's neighborhood would also agree

with everything Marty said and they just really liked him. They really, really liked him. They had nothing but good things to say about Marty. On top of this, Marty even had a long-term girlfriend. Her name was Robin and they were around like the same age and the two of them just really liked each other.

unsure of how they met but they did and they were dating another personality of marty's was a little toddler inside of him named junior so when junior would come out he loved to play with the neighborhood kids and most of all loved to play with his stuffed animal the cookie monster

This is when the Cookie Monster comes into the story. Now it's unclear when exactly Marty got this Cookie Monster doll, but many have speculated that it was most likely given to him by that pimp guy. But Marty would say when things got really scary for him, he would cling onto the Cookie Monster for safety. And it was also just like,

that one thing, the Cookie Monster, it was like that one thing he had consistently throughout his life. It was the stuffed doll, which is like so sad. It's just so innocent, you know? He just always had that Cookie Monster right by his side.

Like even when he wasn't Junior, he just, the Cookie Monster was around. Which is so innocent and sad. So that was Junior, a scared little boy whose only friend was the little Cookie Monster doll. And I'm sure playing with it was some sort of like comfort to him, right? Well, there was still one more personality within Marty, within that little noggin of his. And this was the one that was not good.

this one was gross and just inappropriate and naughty his name was frank

So Frank is actually Marty's middle name and it was also his biological father's name. But like there's absolutely nothing about his dad that at least I could find. But the fact that this particular personality was named after him was kind of like, hmm, hmm, you know? Or maybe I'm just overthinking, but either way, his name was Frank. And this personality, Frank, was not only the one that Marty says used very bad words,

which Marty and Junior was not okay with. They did not use naughty words, but Frank could also be very violent.

Frank loved drugs and Frank also loved having sex with men. Well, as time goes on, in his early 20s, Marty stops working in construction because his mental health was like declining and he was starting to like not be able to take care of himself. So he started to receive disability around this time and he ends up moving into more of an affordable apartment.

And this woman was on 1631 North Street. And guess how much it costs a month to live there? Out of the whole story, this is the part that blew my mind, which is actually really disturbing, but it's the truth. $90 a month for rent.

Could you imagine? It's sad that that's what shocks me most. So true though. Hello. Well, anyways, okay, the apartment block that he moved into, again, it was basically like abandoned at the time. The water within the building, it was like, oh yeah, it runs sometimes. Yeah, depends on the day. The windows were all smashed out. There was no upkeep happening within the building. And I mean, the building itself was just falling apart.

Front door was broken down, $90, you know? So that, but that's what he could afford. And that's where he moved. And when Marty moved here, the first thing he did was take some paint and he painted Marty really big on his front door.

so people would know, you know? So when the personality Frank would come forward, he became involved with different drug dealers in the area. And apparently there were like five different ones that lived really close to him, to Marty. So eventually this led him to help sell and like also build things for the dealers. For example, Marty built like, how do I explain this? He built like this wall

in the neighborhood. He built like this wall that had a hole in it and the drug dealer bosses, they were able to like sell heroin and meth through like the little holes that Marty had made in these walls. And it was so like, you know, it would keep things low key and like safer. They could just exchange things through the hole. And I mean, it was really handy for them to just have Marty around because he could do shit like that.

They're like, "Hey, Marty, we like you. You're helping us out. We're gonna keep you around." So Marty/Frank, remember they're the same person, okay? Marty/Frank also loved drinking heavily and like doing drugs himself. So honestly, the partnership

with the drug dealers was really working in his favor he had easy access to drugs so you know marty would dowel in the drugs that he was also selling and whatnot and while doing drugs he would become more and more paranoid chaotic and aggressive there was this one time that a neighbor like

asked Marty, 'cause Marty was known to help all the neighbors, right? So this neighbor's like, "Hey Marty, can you help me install a carpet for me?" And he's like, "Yeah, sure, no problem." And so he comes over and he's installing the carpet. And then the lady is like, "Dude, where'd Marty go?" Like he just kept disappearing. If you're familiar with drugs, you know what he's doing. He's going missing. She's like, "What the hell?" So she's looking around, she's looking around for him. And eventually she finds him in the, it's not funny. She finds him in the bathroom shooting up drugs

she's obviously upset. She's like, what the fuck? You know, and she's threatening to throw Marty out. But plot twist, again, terrible example because she was like, I'm gonna throw you out. I'm gonna throw you out.

But then she actually just lets him finish because he was doing such a good job with the carpet. Yeah, this was like the example I found of him doing drugs and whatnot. But I think this was like the starting point where the neighbors are starting to catch on with like Marty's doing drugs. He's not the same. He's starting to change.

Before, like, he never used to sneak off, right? But now he was. He was disappearing, and finally he gets caught actually doing drugs. I think that's the point they were trying to make in this article I read. At least that's how I'm taking it. So, he's doing drugs, and with someone with DID, I mean, can't be a good combination. Probably just someone with his mental capacity, it's not a good combination.

very deadly i'm sure and like sadly as soon as he started doing drugs his addiction and his love for drugs it came fast and heavy it was like he did it once and that was it he was all in so the big problem for marty was that when frank came forward and started doing like all those drugs it only enhanced frank's power and hold over marty

So like when he was doing drugs, he was Frank. And Marty and Junior, their personalities could not compete with Frank. I think you get it. Cause like, yeah. Okay. So Frank was basically in charge any time Marty was under the influence. Well,

Marty's girlfriend, Robin, was living with him at the time, which I'm sure was not an easy relationship to have. It was said that she was left kind of confused, you know, with these three different personalities. And Frank specifically did not like her at all. And sadly, like, she would become Marty's first victim. Marty slash Frank. Their first victim. We don't know the exact details of, like, how everything went down, but...

But what sources do say is that while Frank, Marty was high and drunk, the two of them had engaged in sexual intercourse. And in the middle of it, he strangled her to death. She would be Marty's first victim. I mean, he was responsible for her death. But many thought like, which personality did it? You know, it's easy to blame Frank.

he's one who considered violent but marty later on he confesses to her murder saying quote i wanted so badly to love her but i could not stop my need to do the other things i never liked sex and she knew about marty and his desires i didn't want her looking at me that way and i seen god being angry through her eyes

End quote. Kind of confusing. Not really, is it? Like personally, I think he was referring to being a homosexual because like Marty would say that he really loved men, but he really fought with that, especially being like a godly man. And he would try and push that down. And I think when he was frank, it was like he was allowing himself to be what he wanted to be. And maybe like Robin knew this and he couldn't stand it or he just like struggled with shame. I don't know. That's just...

kind of what i was thinking when i was reading it like but either way he strangled and murdered poor robin but this is the point when marty just snaps and we go full-blown

peak Frank era. So Marty would say when he wakes up and is no longer high or drunk, he is now Marty. And when he wakes up and he sees his longtime girlfriend, Robin dead, he rightfully freaks out. So what does he do? Turn himself in? Cry? Panic? No, don't be silly. That would be too easy. Marty instead ends up

dismembering her body, cutting her up, and then buries half of her in like a low traffic abandoned area within the neighborhood. It was like a building that's connected to the building they were in. And then he takes the other half of her body and hides it on the roof of the same building.

So, I guess, you know, a natural response to murder, I guess. I was like, oh, okay, sure, that was a jump. Okay, Marty. Now, the saddest part of all was that Robin was not close with her family and she didn't have many friends. So after she died, like nobody came looking for her.

So her murder just went completely unnoticed. Isn't that awful? That was really sad. But this sets off a series of just very troubling events for Marty. I mean, now that he's alone, he's doing tons of drugs, he's drinking whenever he can. I mean, he's drinking whatever he can really get his hands on. And because of his connection with the local drug dealers, he had such an easy access to like a bunch of different options of substances.

And he was using it to his advantage. This...

is not a good combination. Wouldn't you agree? I think so. So Marty/Frank would often go out and invite different women back to his place where he would offer them drugs and you know, like, "Hey, you wanna have a fun night together? We can get high and like have sex." And they're like, "Yeah, that sounds fun." Then after participating in sexual intercourse, that's where then Marty/Frank would end up strangling them to death.

Between Robin's murder in 1986 and August of 1987, Marty/Frank would go on to kill six more women. Yeah, in like a year. That's a lot. And he would do it in pretty much like the exact same way every single time. He would do insane amounts of drugs.

Frank would like come out and be in control, boo. And each time Marty would say the same thing. He would like wake up, he would be Marty, he would see a dead woman in the bed next to him and he would have no idea what happened. He said, what? This is crazy. So it was really hard to figure this out, but I pieced together a bunch of newspaper articles and put together a rough timeline of when Marty was on his killing spree.

So what we do know is that Robin was first, which took place sometime in 1986. I mean, the exact date slash month is unknown, sadly. His next victim was a 27-year-old woman named Cynthia Brooks, and she was probably, or maybe, killed in early March of 1987. I guess allegedly they had gotten high together. They started having sex, and then he snapped, and...

choked her to death. Then there was 33-year-old Sandra Gavin, who was one of the only other people who lived in that semi-abandoned apartment building with Marty. She happened to be living in a downstairs apartment, and the two were, like, friendly to each other. But sadly, Marty also strangled her to death

most likely in late March of 1987. The fourth victim was a 24 year old woman named Valerie Jamison, who, same exact thing, you know, sex, strangulation, drug, she was killed in April of 1987.

The fifth, I think, and this one is a guess because she was one of the victims there was very little on and they had such a hard time IDing her. She's 24 years old and her name was Patricia Franklin. Nobody really has a clear answer as to when she was killed, but there seems to be a gap between the month of April and August.

So many think that maybe it happened sometime in that timeframe. But what we do know is that Patricia Franklin sadly became a victim to Marty. Now the sixth victim was a 36 year old woman named Mary Jeter Mathis. And same thing, she was killed on August 5th of 1987. The seventh victim was a 22 year old woman named Barbara Mahoney. And she was killed on August 6th of 1987.

which is like damn like he did he killed two victims right back to back and it just seemed like he was on this unstoppable role but then on august 9th of 1987 neighbors had been complaining to the landlord yeah there was landlords yeah there was a landlord but neighbors had been complaining to the landlord about like a terrible smell that was coming from

Marty's apartment. Like I mentioned before, I mean, this was a pretty rundown neighborhood. And you know, like smells happen, especially because of like the leaky pipes, molds, old buildings, non-functioning windows. So, you know, smells. But the landlord got enough complaints that he's like, okay, fine. I can't go, but I'll send my son Gregory to go out and investigate the issue.

Go on, Gregory. Now that specific week, the town had experienced quite the heat wave.

So the stench that was coming out of Marty's place was like awful times 10. So after 1 p.m. on this specific day, Gregory gets to the building and like just gets out of the car and gets a small whiff of like that stank, that sandwich would be coming out of Marty's apartment. Instead of like trying to hear his side of things, this guy Gregory was like, I'm just gonna evict him. Like literally just like that's the best idea. So he knocks on the door, knock, knock, knock.

Marty comes out and Greg tells him like right on the spot, you're evicted. It fucking stinks. You need to go. He doesn't ask any questions. He doesn't even like take a peek inside of his apartment. Just tells him you need to get out ASAP. So Marty's like, okay, I just need to go back inside and like grab a few of my things and I'll be gone.

Just wait right here. It'll take me just a minute. So Marty goes back inside and Gregory, to his credit, he does wait outside the apartment for Marty to like get his stuff and come back out. So he's waiting outside, this Gregory guy, he's waiting outside and he hears like a bunch of banging coming from the inside, kind of like a hammer. So he's like, okay,

what the is going on right let me just see so that's when this gregory guy realizes that marty had just barricaded the front door shut like he gregory could not get in and just to make things even more difficult the door itself the front door didn't even have a doorknob it was just nailed shut so the only way he could open this door was from the inside of the apartment

Yeah, what? What? Marty, what are you doing? What are you doing, Marty? So while Marty's inside, he just completely books it. He goes out the window and through the fire escape with only three things in hand. A water bottle, a t-shirt, and his beloved Cookie Monster doll. Aww. But yeah, he books it right out of there. What are you hiding, Marty?

Well, Gregory, the guy who's outside, he immediately calls the police. When they get there, they start banging on the door. "Hello, answer the door!" But they're getting no answer. I mean, they know that someone's in there. At this point, they didn't know that Marty had like booked it out the window, right? So they're banging and banging and they're getting no answer. The officers realize that there's a keyhole. No knob, but there's a keyhole.

So one of them is like peeking through that keyhole, you know, trying to see if they could see anything. One of the police officers was looking and he's like, "Hey, I could see a pair of legs." So they start hooting and hollering in hopes to like get the attention of the other person, of the person on the other side of the door. "Hey, open up! Hey!" But they realized that those legs, they were not moving.

They were not moving. So this is the point where the police realized that they just gotta knock this door down. So they use all their strength and power to get that front door down. And they do. And let me tell you, when they get that door down, whoo, they see too much. They see way too much. So right away when police officers open their door, they see that the whole apartment floor is covered with like filth, trash, debris,

Garbage, just crap. I'm talking like, have you seen that show Hoarders? I know you have. Okay, I know. It's like, you can't look away, but you're still, you're looking. It was like that. There's like trash and stuff stacked super high. Well, that's exactly what Marty was living in. Police noted that the quote unquote debris within Marty's apartment was knee deep and that there was absolutely no floor visible. All they could see was trash,

syringes, mattresses that were like stacked, dirty clothes, dirty sheets, boxes, tons of food containers, molds, moldy items, and poop. Lots of poop. A lot of poop. Poop? A lot of it. It was pretty shitty. Poop. And as you can imagine, the place was completely infested with fleas,

maggots, and just all kinds of bugs just everywhere. Ugh, the smell. Could you imagine the smell? I don't want to, but I am. I'm imagining. They probably weren't lying, those neighbors. It was probably real bad, especially on a hot summer day. Ugh. When police start looking around, they notice that there's a bunch of different drawings on the wall. Creativity was expressed on the walls. I mean, there are different words.

written in poop and there were also like some really nasty things written on the walls that seemed to be written in blood oh dear you know that's not a good sign well the whole apartment isn't a good sign after a quick assessment of the house of horrors they just walked into they head over to the body that they saw through the keyhole now this victim was completely naked and she was dead

dead. It was obvious to police that she had been dead for like quite some time just based off of her remains alone. Right next to her was like a pile of trash, right? So officers are like trying to remove stuff and clean up around the body. Once they're removing things, they look a little closer and under all of that trash

was another freaking body. Now this body had been dead for even longer. I don't want to describe in what condition these look like because it's just absolutely disturbing. But it was clear to them that like it had been there for a while, a really long while.

So, I mean, their police officers are like digging through morgue with garbage within the apartment. And then they find yet another body. This one was underneath the pile of trash that the second body was on top of. So it was like sandwiched, okay? Do you get it? You get it. Now this body was basically just a skeleton and it only had like a few shreds of clothing still on it. Then...

they find a fourth body. Now this body was wrapped in sheets as if the killer was trying to mummify this body. Unclear as to why it seemed that Marty was trying to wrap and mummify this victim, but it was

obvious to them that this was an attempt. So then they find a fifth body between two mattresses and the body is like on the bed. So it's like sandwich again. It was said that this body was so smashed and just so flattened that police, they described it as like a flower that had been dried and pressed between the pages of a book. Isn't that awful? Now this body was so flat that investigators thought

that Marty most likely had been sleeping on top of the mattress while she was under it and he probably did this for like months. Yeah, that's who we're dealing with here. The fuck? What a weirdo. I mean, we all knew he was weird, but what the fuck, bro? So two hours go by and police are like still digging through everything just hoping to not find any more bodies, but they do. They

They come across a sixth body and this body was jammed into a small six inch deep closet. It was wrapped in a sheet and tied up with an electrical cord. Once police are done searching Marty's apartment, that's when they start searching the rest of the building. They end up searching the other building where Marty had

put Robin's remains, his first victim and his longtime girlfriend. They found her body on the roof and in another part of that building. And like sadly, these bodies were in such bad shape that identifying the victims was not easy.

It took a long time. And it wasn't easy for like two different reasons. One, because most of them were pretty decomposed. There was one victim whose body was basically just a skeleton. And so they needed a forensic anthropologist to be called in just to confirm the gender.

Dental records were used to determine Robin's identity and they were able to ID her just based on one tooth. One tooth, that's what they had. And then with another victim, investigators got the help from forensic sculptors to do a reconstruction of her skull. From that, they were able to make a sculpture of her head and her bust.

They did that just based on her skull. I was like, that's wild that they could do that, but they did. And because of this, they were able to ID her. I read that there was a picture of her bust and her picture side by side. And like, you could see the resemblance. This victim is Patricia Franklin. And like, she was the hardest to ID because there was no information on her like whatsoever. But you could see the resemblance in the bust photo and the

um her photo but like i couldn't find it so i don't know if that's true or not at least they were able to id here i think that's the takeaway here i mean they were doing the most trying to figure out who these victims were as they should there were two victims that these two investigators was clear that their murders had happened more recently and with these two they were able to id them and pretty easily thank god

and concluded that both of them had died by strangulation. I mean, later on, they would realize that all victims had died by strangulation, but at this point, they just weren't sure yet because all the bodies were in...

Such terrible shade. Now, the second reason that investigators had so much trouble identifying these victims was because one, they were all black women who were all battling some form of addiction. And it was said that many of them were known to disappear at times to places no one really knew. And saddest part of all, no one had ever reported them missing. So they weren't on any type of list.

but we know why. Police just don't care. After the news about Marty's killing spree hit the media and whatnot, it was everywhere. Many victims were still unknown at the time, which led to a few families coming forward asking if their loved ones

could have been found in that apartment, you know? Yeah, it was just sad. So police, they start canvassing the neighborhood, just trying to find out more about, or any info, really, about the murderers and also trying to figure out where the hell Marty went because remember, he took off and he still hadn't been found

and we were getting no leads. So the manhunt was just drawing out. There was a lot of news and Crimestopper action happening, which were trying to help locate Marty. And it led to a few people coming forward saying that they saw Marty at like a fast food restaurant. Some people saw him at a car wash. Another saw him at like a bus stop, a soup kitchen. It was like by the time police got there, they could not locate him.

But I guess at the end of the day, Marty was left with like nowhere else to run. So he got in touch with his mother. He sure did. I guess he phones his mom like, Mom, can I come home? I don't know how the conversation goes, but his mom, Lillian, tells Marty to come back home. She takes him in and she does the right thing. I was very surprised because most of the time on these Monday episodes, the right thing never exists.

But she does the right thing. And she convinces him to go down and like turn himself in. And he agrees. And she's like, I'll go with you. Like I'll be there right by your side. So the two of them go down to the police department and Marty turns himself in. And he was placed under arrest on August 16th after just one week on the run. Okay, mom. She did that. Good for her.

because she could have kept him hidden you know so they start to interrogate him marty is apparently just like really calm and i guess the whole time he was like doodling and drawing

kind of like a nine-year-old might do. But in the end, Marty ends up confessing to everything. And he like writes out a 10-page confession. It was said in the confession, he told them about how he was always just trying to get high with these women and have sex. But then in the middle of sex, he would black out. And that's when Frank would take over. And again, Frank was like this nasty, nasty man. And Frank would often go around his apartment

and have sex with the corpses.

Yeah, I guess he did. I'm really sorry about that, but I guess he did. Yeah. And then he would wake up the next morning and like next to him, he would be shocked every time. Like, oh my God, a dead body is next to me. How did that happen? But it's funny because he kept saying that he would black out, but then he would have memory of having sex with the dead bodies. So I'm not disagreeing with him, but you know. So Marty ended up being charged with seven counts of first degree murder, as well as seven counts of...

of abuse with a corpse. But you know, it checks out, checks out, makes sense. Now there was a very interesting detail that you don't see a lot in these trials. It was on the advice of his court appointed lawyer, because after talking it over with his mother, Lillian, Marty decided not to have a trial by jury.

and actually chose to have the judge alone decide his case. It's just rare. You don't really see that often. I think because he knew that he had fucked up. Or at least his mom did. Someone did. His...

lawyer. He's like, dude, bro, you really fucked up. Don't get a jury. Marty's lawyer was no fool. I mean, obviously he's going to hit the court hard with the mental disease or defect offense because, well, that was really Marty's only hope. And because it was true, you know? So they ended up bringing a psychiatrist in during the trial saying like, since Marty couldn't recall the first five murders, it was not possible to, uh,

judge his mental state at the time of those crimes. During the last two incidents, Marty had hallucinated and heard the voices of God and the devil. Therefore, he had been psychotic. So this person was coming and, you know, helping prove that he was not there. The defense also claimed that Marty's mental disability affected his own ability to know right from wrong. And the prosecution, on the other hand, went...

all in, just calling him a serial killer. They were like, he did all this on purpose. It was premeditated. He's evil, which fair, you know? And then they ended up bringing in two different women to testify against Marty. Now these two women,

They both said that they had slept with Marty at some point. One of them said that during sexual intercourse, Marty tried to choke her to death, but somehow she was able to fight back and escape, right? Praise God. And then the other woman who testified said that Marty told her that he killed Robin and he did so out of anger and he threatened to do the same thing with her

but this time with a machete. Yeah, I guess he had a machete ready to go. Okay, not looking good for Marty, fair. Now another witness was called in. His name was Anthony Oglesby. So this guy, he said that he also ran with the same drug dealers in the neighborhood and he was an addict himself and would sometimes go over to Marty's and do drugs with him. Now this guy, this guy,

He claimed in court that he actually watched Marty kill two women. Huh? Yeah, he watched. So the court, fair question, is like, hey, why didn't you intervene? Anthony, this guy Anthony, literally said, quote, I was just there for the drugs, man, end quote.

Direct quote. I was just there for the drugs, man. I was like, dude, honestly, props. Because that's probably the most honest statement I've heard in a really long time. He was honest. I don't know. Drugs, man. Fucks people up. Now, many tried to discredit Anthony's testimony. They were like, dude, that guy's just trying to win something because...

He was already in jail on a different charge and was getting some kind of special treatment for testifying against Marty. According to another inmate who talked to Anthony, he said that in exchange for his testimony, he got to go to a hotel and he also got to have sex with his wife. And like that was a special treatment. That was kind of like an eye roll to me because I feel like that's not

Is that a lot for like someone to lie? And even if he did lie, like there's so much against Marty, you know? It's not like the whole thing was based off of this guy's testimony. So, but a lot of people were trying to discredit him. It was really annoying. The judge ultimately rejected the mental disorder defense and maintained that Marty knew what he was doing, especially when he confessed to killing those women. Like he remembered a lot for not remembering

you know so in the end marty was found guilty of seven counts of first-degree murder and seven counts of abuse of a corpse and for some reason marty's mother lillian and one of his foster mothers remember pauline i mentioned her way at the beginning if you don't it's okay but lillian and pauline kind of like

linked up and they both begged for the judge not to choose the death penalty. Lillian believed that Marty wasn't the actual killer. No, no. She was a firm believer that Marty was put up to it. I know. I was like, lady, no. She believed that he was being used by drug dealers to do their dirty deeds. That's what she believed. And it's like, okay, sure, sure. Maybe that is true. Let's just say it is. But like, damn girl,

I'm sorry, but your son still killed seven women. Like, what do you want here, lady? What do you want? Like, what do you want? Him to be free? No.

he still killed seven women, whether he was put it up to it or not. Like, come on. This is where it gets a little confusing, but I'm gonna throw it in anyways for shits and giggles because there's like an odd twist in this case. So the judge gave Marty the death penalty for the six murders, but he issued this sentencing in like a low-key confusing way saying that Marty was supposed to serve all of his sentences consecutively as in like,

one after another, after another, after another, right? And he had to do this first. And then once he finished that, then he would get the death penalty. Does that make sense? So he was instructed to serve his time for the abuse of corpse convictions first, followed by the life sentence for Robin's murder,

then the death penalties. In other words, Marty couldn't be put to death until after he died at the end of his life sentence. It was a death penalty loophole. That's exactly what it is. So this was hailed by everyone as the Solomon verdict. So this was based on the fair and wise King Solomon from the Bible who found

innovative ways to bring down judgment. Kind of like the judge in this case. The most famous example in the Bible was when King Solomon was supposed to determine who was the real mother of a child. It was kind of giving me Morty Povich.

So he's trying to determine who the real mother of a child was, okay? And in order to do so, he suggested that the woman should cut the child in half so each woman could have the child. Now, apparently the real mother was just horrified at this ruling, right? She was like, oh my God. She was like having a fall down, meltdown. And the fake mom was like,

And that my friends is how he figured out who the real mother was. Look, I know I wanted to add it in though because I thought, oh, that's funny.

I thought it was. But it was considered a pretty brilliant use of the judge's power to spare Marty, a mentally ill and disabled man, you know, spare him from the death penalty. But at the same time, giving him the maximum sentence. Again, death penalty loophole. So at the end of the trial, you know what Marty asked the judge? He asked if he could have his Cookie Monster doll back.

That's all he asked for. And I guess the judge said yes. So where are they now, huh? After the trial, the court decided to overturn the original judge's sentencing. I'm gonna tell you, it was a whole mess and I'm simplifying it for you because it's just...

It was like volleyball, ping pong, tennis. It never ended. The courts fought that the judge had no authority to like do this little loophole. Therefore it was illegal. And so it completely like wiped everything clean. And what I'm getting at is that Marty was given a death sentence. This time a real death sentence. And his date, his execution date was set for December 7th.

So this was like kind of a gasp for everyone because his execution was going to take less than like two years after his conviction, which is considered like a really quick turnaround. Usually most people who are sitting on death row end up spending many, many, many years there before being put down. But in this case, they wanted it done ASAP. But then plot twist,

All this judge drama ended up really not even mattering in the end because in 2002, the US Supreme Court decided that it was unconstitutional to execute mentally disabled people. And you know, Marty was in that camp. So once again, the death penalty was completely thrown out and Marty was back to just serving his seven life sentences. Now, as of today, Marty is still alive.

I know, I thought for some reason he would be long gone, but he's not, he's still alive. And he is serving his time in a special needs unit, which is like a medium security prison. Apparently while in custody, Marty began taking antipsychotic drugs and I guess it's helped him tremendously. And he is just now

Marty, allegedly. Since being incarcerated and like getting healthier, Marty has become like an ordained minister while behind bars. Yeah, I don't know.

cool about all the victims that you killed. Like their lives just ended, but good for you. And like so many other killers out there, he paints and draws and he sells his artwork from prison. I feel like a lot of the prison guys, their artwork is always like very horny. So same goes for Marty. It was pretty horny, but there is some Cookie Monster stuff to it.

Like same old Marty, I guess. And no, I'm not going to tell you where you can find his art because that's dumb. Find it on your own. Anyways, that's the end of today's story. I'm not satisfied. Marty killed a lot of people. I'm sorry, but he did. Whether he was mentally unwell or not, he still killed a lot of people and he should be held responsible for that. I don't know. I'm torn. I don't even know how I feel anymore about the death sentence and all of that. I feel like there's some people that you just can't save.

Like there's some that you just can't say. I wanna believe that you can, but there are some that you can't. So what do you do? Do you just put them down? Sometimes I say, yeah. But then sometimes I'm like, no baby, that's mean. I don't know, I ain't God, you know? I mean, he killed seven women and he like had sex with them. Hello? You can't let him out, sorry.

you just can't. I think the bigger story here or the bigger thing that many people don't want to address is that children growing up with some kind of mental health issues, there are not a lot of resources for parents to turn to when it comes to raising children with a mental health issue. There isn't.

Like if a parent is struggling because their child has something bigger going on, they don't have a lot of places to turn to get help. And when they can't get help or treatment or consistent therapy or consistent medication, these kids grow up really struggling and, um,

This is like the perfect example of one just going extremely wrong, right? But I think that is like the bigger discussion that people should be having is how to prevent this from happening. And that's by getting these people help at the first signs of something not being right. Does that make sense? Like there needs to be better help for parents raising children

with something much larger going on. Anyways, fucking Cookie Monster. I do hope you have a really great day today. You make good choices, you go outside and you smile, and have a good rest of your week. I appreciate you. I do. And I'll be seeing you guys next week. Bye.