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Hi pussies, welcome back to Therapus and happy John Day. Today we have the one, the only John Summit on the podcast and for the first time ever I drank for a podcast episode and I definitely got a little drunk and
We had a very, very, very good time, and I'm really excited for you guys to see this episode and listen to his new album, The Comforting Chaos, out July 12th. Okay. Love you, pussies. Hi, pussies. Welcome back to Therapus. Today, we have the one, the only, John Summitt. What's up, man?
Thank you for having me. John, I think it's only right. I'm like kind of drunk, honestly. You've gotten me kind of drunk before this. Of course. Of course, you're fine. Like, I'm like actually kind of hammered. It's Friday at 5 p.m. It is Friday. Let's take a shot before we begin. All right. Cheers. You have to make eye contact, girls. It's bad luck for seven years. Cheers. Not too bad, right?
I don't think tequila is your drink of choice. No, not really. I actually don't drink tequila, but I said I would drink it for you. Yeah, it's not too bad though, right? Not horrible. I've been told it's the only alcohol that's not a depressant. It's like, doesn't get you tired. Right. Which I think is why I can stay up all night. Right, well you're a Leo, so that's also why you can stay up all night.
I don't know if I believe in all that. John. Yeah. I promise you. Like, you were saying, you were telling me things, and then you told me your birthday, and I was like, makes sense. He checks out. Checks out. Every girl I've ever talked to has said that, so...
Girls are usually right. Yeah, they always are. John. Yes. How's your day going? My day is going excellent. It's been a long work week. I announced my album this week, coming out July 12th, called Comfort and Chaos. It's the most amount of work I've put into anything in my life, so I'm super proud about that, and it's a huge relief that it's finally done. So now I can have a drink. Yes, yes. When did you finish the album? I fully, fully finished it.
right before Coachella is kind of... Nothing's ever done. Right. So it's tough. So it's basically when my label manager told me, like, you finally have to turn in, that's when it's done. But I did premiere most of the tracks at Coachella, though. Right. And that was very nerve-wracking because...
That was my first time playing most of it in front of anybody, and I did not know if it was going to go over well. And then after I got off stage, I still had no idea. And it wasn't literally until I went online and I saw the reaction. I was like, okay, yes. Dude, the set was so... Oh, my God, I can't believe I just said dude. Hangs out with me for five minutes. I'm just sticking.
A chameleon. What can I say? It was amazing. Thank you. It was amazing. Thank you. It was so... The visuals were outstanding. Yeah. And then I saw your BTS of, like, how you made the visuals, which was equally as cool. Mm-hmm. I mean, the amount... We spent as much amount of time, like, on the whole show as I do the music. Right. Because I think it's just as important. It is, yeah. And as someone that's been going to raves, like, my whole life, I mean...
I've been going to La Palooza since I was in high school. And then I'd always go to the Perry stage, which is the electronic music stage. And then that's what really changed my life. It's not just the music, but the whole show production. And it's hard to explain. I don't know how much of your viewers listen to dance music. I honestly think more of them than you would imagine. Okay, cool. Because in my head, it's still so niche.
And in my head, I'm still super niche too. So when people recognize me as some folk, I don't get it. Yeah. But if you go to a show, I do think it changes your life a little bit. Not just my show, but any electronic music show. Was there a show that changed your life? Like from Lollapalooza, from the Perry stage, from whatever? Was there a show that you were like, I have to DJ? Deadmau5, 2011, Lollapalooza and the pouring rain. Oh, wow. And I was...
A couple extra curators, to say the least. But it really, like, it was life-changing because I've never heard music like that. There was no vocals for, like, the first 15 minutes of the set. And then once the vocals kicked in, it was Ghost and Stuff, and then the Rob Swire vocal kicks in, which is why I kind of really do vocal-heavy music. Right, right. Is that...
It was absolutely euphoric. I'm like, this is what I want. I have no idea how I'm going to do it, but this is what I'm going to do. How did you do it? You said you worked and you went to college. I come from a middle class background where you have parents who are like, you have to get a job. You have to go to college, get a job, do your thing. If I was like, I'm going to be a DJ, they'd be like, what the fuck are you talking about? I went to business school. On the side, I was DJing and learning how to make music.
and releasing music. And so we, so we started building a following like just online though on SoundCloud. Right. Like not like an actual, no one would recognize me in public or anything, but very, very niche following. And then before you know it, some people, label heads, like they, they listen because we're always looking. Cause I don't have my own label now too. Congratulations. Thank you.
But before you know it, after like 30 or so releases, you know, I had one track that really stuck, which is Deep End, June 2020. And then from there, just everything started blowing up. Wow. So it's taken a while. It's taken about eight years of releasing music.
But here we are. Here we are. Wait, so I was just educated about rave culture, and apparently you guys trade friendship bracelets? Oh, yeah, yeah. Okay, so I made you a few friendship bracelets. I'm glad that you know the culture, by the way. I'm impressed. I know plur. Okay, yes. Peace, love, unity, and respect. Yes. What is it? Do you ever do it when you're like, peace, love.
Love. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Respect. And then you trade. Yeah. Yeah, I was taught about it. I was taught about it. You down to do it right now? So this one, yeah, I do want to do it right now. I'm curious what these say. I have a few for you. Okay, cool. Okay, so this one says, okay, hold on. This one says, we love John. Oh, wow. Do I have to do like the peace, love thingy? Do you know how to do it? Okay, hold on. Okay, ready everyone?
Yes. Peace. Peace. Unity. Respect. He didn't really do it right, but it's the thought. It's the thought. It's the thought. It's the thought. Okay. You have to do it for everyone, though. This one says, how we feeling. How the fuck we feeling. How the fuck we feeling. There we go. All right. Hell yeah. And then this one says, Mr. Summit. Okay. Okay. Yeah.
So I'm going to be honest. Alice made these for you. Yes. And she was like, don't tell him I made them for him. You have to say you made them for him. Yeah. It was you that made them. It was me that made them. And then this one says Puss Nation, which I just want you to have selfishly. All right. Of course. I'll wrap this on my flight tonight. Oh, please. This one says Shiver. Okay. Oh, I'm full on. I'm going full rave kid right now. This one just says John. I'll take it. I'll take it. I love this look I got going right now. This one is...
What does it say? Puppy. That's what my mom calls me. Oh, I love it. Your mom calls you puppy? Yeah, she calls me puppy cake. That's adorable. So we're full rave kid now. Okay, so you saw Deadmau5 in 2011 and you were like, I'm going to be a DJ. And then after that where you're like, I, this, like, you just started learning immediately? So from there, I learned how to DJ. But then immediately I'm like, it's not,
fun to DJ to no one well well yeah to no one well no because you can always DJ to your friends so that I feel like that's what most people do they get like a DJ decks and like for after parties and whatever but I knew that I wanted my own music too because people like you can entertain the party but people aren't connected to the show or whatever unless they know and stuff the music so that took a while but um I was like I mean I went to college I didn't
Yeah.
Back to the drawing board. I just bring it in. So you were humbled by it. Oh, yeah, yeah. Because whenever that happened, then I would just play the Chainsmokers or something, and then all the girls would start cheering again. I'm like, all right, thank God. Saved the party. But then eventually, though, my music really started sticking. And then it really wasn't until 2020 when we were all kind of not allowed to leave the house that my music really started connecting with people. And I don't know what it was about that.
I think it's because... You think it's because you were putting in more effort because you weren't... Like, you had more time? I... So, my... I have a lot of thoughts on this, but my true thoughts, I guess, are that...
Everyone else who was already rich and successful took it as a time to decompress and relax, where I was completely broke and living at my parents' house. I'm like, I'm going to make 200 tracks. I'm going to make two tracks every day, send it to labels. I treat it as the craziest year of my life. Then I signed to a bunch of labels and then took advantage of that, I guess. Which is great, though, because I learned so much. Then from there, it's been nonstop.
I mean, you're kind of similar, though, yourself, though, I guess, right? John. Where you were telling me earlier where I asked you, I'm like, how many TikToks did it take to blow up? And you said one TikTok. Okay, well. Which is incredible, though, which is so respectable because then from there, you did like a million after that and they all did like equally as well or even better. Well, I think I was trying to be cool because what I didn't say was that I used to post
I think, what was it? It was like 10 to 14 times a day. And it was literally anything you could imagine. Like I would post like,
I used to have this series where I would like, it was so stupid, like something about straws. Like it was just stupid. Like I would post anything, but the skits, it was one and done. So you were a creator though, and it wasn't until you figured out what your lane was. So for me, I was creating underground tech house for the longest time and different kinds of things. And it wasn't until I added the deep end vocal on top of my beats that it made it work. Where for you, it's kind of like you had to find out.
what your niche kind of was. And then you found the skits and then you owned it. Cause it's like literally, it's like mini NSL skits kind of thing. John, stop. That's going to happen. That's going to happen someday. I'm calling it now. Oh, stop. Seriously, I'm blushing. I don't know what to do. Thank you. Yeah, yeah, it's happening. When did you, when were you like, I've found my niche? Like when were you like, this is, I,
I'm doing this. I'm doing it right. I'm going to keep going. Cause like for me, it was the skits and I was like, I'm going to full speed ahead on this one for you was like, okay, this is my niche full speed ahead. Well, so for me, cause I was already making money doing counting is that I knew that I found my niche, not in the fact of making money, but just found it in that. I love the music. Right. And, um,
I went to like a Dairy Bird party in like, I think 2016. I don't know if you know, it's more underground, Tuck House. I probably don't, but tell me anyway. But it was like some party barbecue in Detroit where they're playing Tuck House to like 100 people. And I just fell in love with the music. And then I started making it. And then, I don't know, I just, I was, I don't know, I like doing things that no one else is doing. Right.
Which is, I kind of, the reason why I'm doing an album right now is because no one else is doing an album. Yeah. Especially in my lane, where I could just keep making the same song, big song over and over again, but that shit bores me. Because as soon as I start doing something and everyone else does it, I think it's not cool. Right. Right. And it's also important to make an album because you're giving the people that listen to you, like,
a body of work to listen to in total. And like, it's always so important. I mean, I'm the biggest music fan forever. And like, I always take albums and like put them in parts of my life. So like what you're doing is like, you're kind of being like, Hey, house music isn't just,
I'm not just putting out single after track after track after single after track after track after track. I'm going to give you a full body of work that's coherent and makes sense. And that can maybe soundtrack like a part of someone's life. Exactly. You know what I mean? I think a single has a shelf life and you might think of one specific memory that
You know, maybe in some summer 2016 when you heard that one single, but if you know legit albums and you connect to that by a work, it actually is a part of your entire life. It's a part of your entire life. What's your favorite album? Well, there's a few.
I mean, when it comes to high school, it was like Radiohead, OK Computer. Right. Very kind of almost basic answer if you're an alternative. I was about to say, like, I don't listen to Radiohead. OK. It's not basic for me. But for me, though, I just resonated with it so much. And then because I was so introverted in high school. You were? I was on the cross-country team. What? Yeah. So I just ran by myself.
You know, I had teammates and stuff, but we're not, you know, just, I never went out or anything. Wait, what? Yeah. I didn't start like actually drinking and stuff until college. Are you serious? I was like, no, John's been at it since he was like 12. No, no. Well, I think that's why I'm not sick of it though, because I didn't do it until later in my life. Okay, yeah. You know, like the kids I know that are like raging in high school are like,
Like, married and divorced by now. Very true. Very true. So, yeah, I just did it a little bit later. And then...
In college, Jamie XX in Color was this album that really, really, really kind of changed my life because it was electronic music in its peak at 2015, at least in America. But he did a very introspective album that was not bangers. It was not hits. It was just good music. Yeah.
It's kind of like he was a 2015 version of Fred again. Right. To give example. Yeah. Very, very good comparison. I saw Jamie XX live. I think it was 2016. Oh, wow. All right. Yeah. And it was the best concert of, I mean, that was the album with good times, right? Yes, exactly. Oh, you know your shit. All right. Oh yeah. I doubted. Yeah.
I know, kind of. He did this remix of when I saw him, he did this remix of Don't You Want Me Baby, and it was, it changed my life. Like, I was like, this is why live music is so important, because especially for you guys, you guys perform all these, like, the DJs perform all this music that, like, they don't release, but they'll
remix these songs live and like and they just hit so different and like it makes you be like I need to go see that set again in person instead of just streaming their music that's funny because like six months of 2022 I ended all my sets with don't you is it don't you want me baby yeah that's crazy that you brought that up and then from there like the way I got my sweet disposition remix is that I was just that was a DJ edit and it wasn't until temper trap hit me up and they're like this can be official and
But that's how we make our sets unique is that I'll play edits and bootlegs of every song you could possibly think of. Okay. And then I feel like fans connect with that because they recognize the music. Right. Recognize the lyrics. Yes. Recognize the vocals. Yes.
But we had our own spin on it. So the only way you can hear my version of it is sing it live. Right, right. I've tried. I've searched for hours for Jamie XX. Don't you want me, baby? I've searched the entire fucking worldwide web for it. I can't find it anywhere because he hasn't put it out. But you have to see it live. Yeah, yeah. And he was nuts. The first time I saw him live was like at a club where he's doing four different vinyl. And no one does that anymore.
Like literally spinning on physical vinyl. Oh, no way. And four different ducks. And I'm like, why are you doing that? And he's just like, because I can. I'm like, that's so hard. It's so cool. Well, John, you seem pretty pleased with life. But I do have to ask you, are you therapist about anything? Is there anything that's pissing you off? I mean, yeah. There's a decent amount. Please, please. I can tell you what's pissing me off.
If that makes you more comfortable first. Yeah. I mean, I guess knowing that anything else is doing, I'm more pissed about myself that I experienced legit constant anxiety about everything. And I cannot accept the fact that I'm successful. So because I and even just saying that out loud is so cringy. I'm like, you're not successful. You haven't even released an album yet. What the fuck are you talking about?
But what do you mean by you can't accept the fact that you're accepted? Like imposter syndrome? No, it's more so that there's an endless goalpost and I haven't been able to even take a day off to accept. I don't know if you feel that at all. It's just like...
I don't know, like we're clearly like doing well for ourselves, but then I still wake up every morning with extreme anxiety where it's like, what am I doing next? What's the next thing? What's the next thing? And sometimes I just need to, I don't know. So yeah, I'm pissed at myself that I can't get in that. Is it kind of like, do you ever feel like you can't like relish in the moment because you're scared everything's going to go bad? Well, the only time I can relish in the moment is when I'm DJing. So when I'm on stage and it all hits me,
like it really is like oh my god this is all worth it all that stress all that hard work all paid off right and then i don't know it's weird what i do for a living though because then i'll have the highest highs like be like literally crowd surfing high-fiving anybody hugs all this thing and i go to my hotel room and i'm completely by myself and then it's like oh shit like
That just happened, now what? I don't know. It's weird. It's just like really, really loud and then dead silent. Exactly. And it's the highs and lows. And then, I mean, that's what my whole album is about is because it's called Comfort and Chaos where it's just like I'm comfortable in the chaos of DJing and that whole world. But then you have to be also comfortable. You have to be tranquil outside of it. Right. And then...
I know. I used to get swept up in the madness where I had a DJ every night to experience that high endorphins. You're like so addicted to like the rush of like being on stage and everyone cheering. I mean, because you say like you went to Coachella. You did that for a weekend. It was great, right? Yeah. I do that every night.
That's crazy. How many times do you DJ a week? So I used to, like the last couple years, I was doing 200 plus shows a year. And then this, it was a lot. Oh, you are better than me. Let me fucking tell you something. If I was a DJ, two shows a year. Two shows a year and you are lucky for that. I love that. Yeah, unfortunately that's not what I can do. Yeah.
But I do truly love doing the shows, but it does so much energy output. Like, you've seen me on stage. I'm not just sitting there like... No, you're up and you're at them and you're interacting with the crowd because I feel like people don't realize being a DJ, performing, it's kind of like...
When a pop star is performing. You're not just standing up there and you're singing. You're standing up there and you're dancing. And you're interacting with the crowd. And you're being like magnetic. And like I feel like. While being magnetic comes natural to some. Like it's also always requires work. At the end of the day. And like.
You're going to finish the set and you're going to be drained and then you're going to have to do that all again tomorrow. And like, all you want is that magnetic feeling to feel like natural. Yep. You know what I mean? And then like, I feel like, do you ever get burnt out? I mean, I had it really bad a few weeks ago when I was in Europe and then I play this show in London and then apparently the show was good. But for me in my head, it's,
It didn't go great. Right. And then I went to Twitter and I complained. And then I just like, it was just, I hit a fucking wall because I'm like, I can't do this one anymore. I literally, on Twitter, I was like, I'm retiring. Yeah. Then I wake up the next day. Was everyone upset? Oh, yeah. When I said that, people were like, what the fuck?
And then all the EDM blogs and shit were like reposting it. Like John summit retiring after bad London show. And I'm like, then I, I passed out for like 12 hours afterwards. Cause I did like maybe one to two hours a night of sleep for the five days leading up. Right. And so I finally pass out and then I wake up and I see go on Twitter. I was like, it's like, Oh no. Oh my God. You're me. You're me. You're like, wait, it's fine. No one, no one freak out. It's fine.
And then because, well, I'm so used to, because I've been on Twitter my whole life. I'm used to just tweeting into the void and no one caring. And now people care. Yes. And now there's actual headlines. And I'm like, oh, maybe I shouldn't let my intrusive thoughts win. Oh, I wish. I know you don't know this, but I wish I knew you're rising and your moon. Because I know your son is Leo. But like, I wish I knew you're rising in your moon because it would just like. So what does that mean? Because to me, that's a red flag when a girl asked me that. Why is that a red flag?
Fuck. Because I'm like, I don't know. How many girls ask you that? A lot? Yeah. And I'm just like, I don't know. But they're probably right, though, because they always have been right, which is so... Let me tell you, John. I tweeted this, like, literally three weeks ago. I go, like, maturing is finding out astrology girls have been right the whole time. It's true. Yeah. They're right. It's the moon and the stars. But I don't think that's what it is. There's something else. Yeah.
And witches maybe? Like, I don't know. Like, I'm telling you, like, I read my astrology shit and I'm like, yeah. Oh my God, yeah. Like, makes sense. Do you have like a website or is it Cosign or what? Cosign. I was close. You were so close.
I really, do you know your birth time? Does your mom know your birth time? My mom knows my birth time. I've asked her like five times. Okay. Yeah. After this, I'm going to get your birth time and put it into CoStar and I'm going to get your rising in your moon. Well, the last time I did that, I was at like dinner with a girl and she asked me for my birth time stuff and I did ask my mom at dinner and she sent it to me.
And then I gave it to her and she goes, makes so much sense. Well, what was it? I don't remember because she said it in like a derogatory way. She's like, makes so much sense. Pacquiao, Gemini Rising. I know it. I know it. Because that's what I am. That's what everyone says. I'm just thinking we're the same. I'm like, all right, screw this. I'm not sharing this anymore. Oh, my God. Okay, before we get into the tell me what's wrongs, I think we should take one more shot. Can you grab me the alcohol?
Okay, ready everyone? Okay, we're going to take a shot to do... Sorry, I'm drunk. John, you've got me drunk for this. This is kind of a fat shot too. Is it? No, no, it's really small. I feel like I'm going to pass out by the end of this and I'm supposed to go out tonight. Are we drinking the whole thing? No, let's go for it. Cheers. Eyes, remember. Yes. Bad luck. Cheers.
Not bad. Do you not do chasers? No, because it feels weak to me. That feels weak? Yeah, doing a chaser. Oh, God. Well, the method to the fans out there. Yeah, is that instead of two chasers? Well, no, no, it's not that. It's that after you take a shot, then you blow out afterwards, and then you avoid the hole, like,
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Which you didn't avoid. Have you ever thrown up after a shot? No, I've only thrown up once in my life, and it was in China from food poisoning. Are you kidding? Yeah, my entire life, only once. Where, in China? Yeah, I got food poisoning. I thought I was dying. I ate some crab that, like, immediately I was like...
That wasn't right. Did it just taste weird? I thought I was immediately going to, like, die and combust. And then it was, like, four days straight, though. It was intense. Like, I literally thought it was over. Oh, we got note cards. Well...
Well, do you know about the tell me what's wrongs? No. Okay. I purposely went into this blind. Okay. Because I don't like to be prepared for anything. Okay. Yeah. I think that works in your favor. Okay, good. The tell me what's wrong. So the pussies write in and they tell us what's wrong. And we prescribe them. Pusscribe them. Oh, so I'm a therapist here. Yeah, you're a puss. Oh.
and you prescribe them remedies. So I'd be like, prime example. They'd be like, oh my God, my boyfriend likes to sleep really cold. I like to sleep hot. I don't know what to do. I'd be like, oh my God, Shiver by John Summitt. Prescribe. Yes, that makes more sense. Do you see what I mean? Yeah. So that's how this goes. Okay. Are we looking at a camera? You can look at me. You can look anywhere. Okay, cool. Hi, Jake and guest.
Basically, my boyfriend matched with my best friend on Tinder. What the fuck? Before we were dating. Oh, okay. I have severe jealousy problems and can't help think, would he want her over me? Maybe. The answer is yes, and I'm so sorry. No, I mean, it depends what night it is, right? Okay.
I don't know their personalities. I don't know the situation here. As a guy, as a single guy, you're attracted to pretty much anyone who's attractive, right? Okay. And so that means that if you, the one that landed him, that means, wow, I'm the more attractive person.
Maybe, unless she denied him. No, she's saying, okay, I think she's saying that the issue is she's with her boyfriend, but she knows that he found her friend attractive. Yeah, but of course, if she's attractive, guys find every girl who's attractive attractive, but that doesn't mean they're going to actually act on it.
Okay, that was super reassuring. Yeah. Like if a guy ever says that you're the only person I find attractive, that's the biggest red flag in the world. Right, because they're lying and they're a psychopath. Exactly. And they'll kill you. I don't know about all that, but yeah. Okay, so we prescribe, what do we prescribe? We prescribe Maneater by Nelly Furtado. Oh, we're singing a song, not like a TV? I just think it's the first thing that came to mind. Okay, Maneater.
Don't you love me, baby? Okay, yeah. Come on, yeah, that makes sense. My boyfriend hung out with his girl best friend the other night, just them. She's single. I've told him how and why this makes me uncomfortable. He says that he's hurt that I don't trust him. I hope this will never be you because that is evil. Wait, so he's hurt that he doesn't make any sense? Girl? Yes. Boyfriend. Okay. Okay.
Boyfriend hanging out with his girl best friend who is single. Yes. Last night or like whatever night. But it's his best friend that was just hanging out. John. Jonathan. Wait, so if I have a girlfriend, I can't hang out with my girl best friend? Oh, Jonathan. I hang out... So if I have a girlfriend, I gotta just dump all my friends? Jonathan. I'm so lost. That is not right. So how else do you hang out with your girl best friend though? That makes no sense. You don't. Oh, you just...
It's so depressing. Because what? Respectfully. Yeah. If I was that girl and my boyfriend was hanging out with his girl best friend, are you out of your mind? So have they ever hooked up before? It sounds weird. No, I think that's a security issue, though, because I think if you're dating somebody, they could hang out with the hottest girl in the world they could possibly imagine, and they would be like just hanging out platonically. Can you do that?
I mean, I haven't dated a girl for like five years, but yes, I can. You haven't dated someone for five years? Yeah. But I do that like with most girls I hang out with. It's not like...
But I'm also kind of a little bit older, though. It's like I'm kind of, you know, been there, done that. I'm hanging out. I think you're having a more mature – I'm sorry, I'm so drunk. I'm so drunk. A more mature approach to this. Yeah, but I think it's like it's different. If it's a guy that's never experienced, you know, hanging out with other girls and stuff before, they don't know how to act. Where to me, it's just like hanging out with another person.
Totally. I don't believe that with this guy. No, no, fuck that guy. This guy is scum of the earth. He's hanging out with his girl best friend. Fuck you. Well, it depends. I guess I'm such a different aspect of my life, or I'm like the worst person to ask for this advice. Right, okay. So what I would say... He's not our famous DJ. Can I say what I would do? Yeah. Okay.
Just thinking. Just give me a second. So what's our prescription? Yeah. Are we going just songs? Maybe. I don't know. Let me think. Let me think. I think it's a stalk the ex-girlfriend on Instagram. I think what I would do is I would assemble my girls. Right? So you assemble your Avengers and you're like, girls, we have a fucking problem. This girl. So she's immediately an enemy, not a friend, an enemy. We have teams. She's hanging out with my boyfriend. Yeah.
She's an anime.
Assemble the Avengers. You assemble and you're like, what the fuck do we do? And they're like, give me five seconds. And I have Brett, right? And so Brett will like Google and search up and whatever and find their house and their parents' jobs and whatever. You got a team underneath you. I do. This is great. I do. And so she'll be like, threat or not a threat? If it's threat, you tell your boyfriend if you hang out with him one more time, I'll never speak to you again. If it's not a threat, you'd be like, whatever.
But then they're going to get upset that you're acting like that and they're going to be unattracted to you. Well, I'm upset that they're acting like that. Do you know what I mean? I'm upset that they're hanging out with my girl best friend. First of all, is this...
Yeah. No, they're done. Break up with them. Easy. Break up. Done. I truly believe any problem. Well, also, like, I need you to know one thing about me is, like, I totally forgot to say this, is that jealousy seeps through my veins. Yeah. Like, I was injected with jealousy as a child. So, yeah, what happened to you? I, um...
How do we know? I think it was a lot of rejection and like jealousy just seeps through my veins. So like anything remotely jealous, like if I get jealous over someone else, like, oh, well, has that changed with your exception of you being so successful lately? Oh, I'm not except I'm not exception. No, I mean, like you have so many like incredible people come on your podcast because they like love and enjoy your content and your character. Like so clear, you're accepted.
Thank you. Am I wrong? No, thank you so much. So then what's making you feel like you're rejected? Are you reading comments? Like, what's going on? Um... You don't know?
Well, you're definitely accepted. By you? I hope I am. Okay. I mean, I'm here right now. You accepted me onto your podcast. No, John. Let's be real. Let's be real. It's a mutual exception, right? I notified anyway, John Summitt. I was messaging him, do you want to come on my podcast? John Summitt is on Do Not Disturb. Do you want to notify anyway? Absolutely. Notify anyway. Notify anyway. Notify anyway. Notify anyway.
I had no idea I was on Do Not Disturb for the last few months until literally two days ago. And someone's like, can you please turn off your Do Not Disturb? I had no idea. Do Not Disturb is so important, and you just turn it off for the people that you need to hear from constantly. I turned it off from everybody. No, no, no. Lane.
You've got to hear from Lane. Yeah, yeah, yeah. She just keeps calling me. No, no, no, no. But Lane calls you with important things. Yes. So what you do is you go to your settings and you go, do not disturb except for Lane. Lane. Except for Lane. All right. She can come through. My name is Sophia and my friend's boyfriend is a walking ick. Example, he never cleans his nose. That's disgusting. You just break up with him. It's so easy. You're a girl. Come on. Nice.
And he only talks about sexual things and they are so toxic. How do I tell her she needs to break up with him? Imagine if a guy said, like, my girlfriend is a walking ick. That would be the most ridiculous thing ever. Just break up with them. Done. Okay. Have you ever seen, like, the MTV show Next? Of course. Sorry, I lied. I haven't. Oh, wow. So you're young. Thank you. Back in my day, it would be like a reality TV, like, dating show where...
A girl would walk out of like a bus or a trailer and like if you didn't find them attractive, you just say next. Shut the fuck up. So that's, it's like Bachelor, but immediately if you thought they were unattractive, just done. It was so efficient though because as a guy, it's like next, done, next. And this was on MTV? Yeah, yeah. We got to bring that back. You know what I'm talking about, right? I prescribe. Rumors.
Okay, I watched Room Raiders. I did watch that. I did watch that. Honestly, that's an inefficient way to date, though. This girl says my boyfriend is a walking ick. Next. Next. Next. I prescribe Thank U, Next by Ariana Grande. Yes, girl. Thank U, Next by Ariana Grande. No, she needs to listen to some feel-good music. Wait, do you listen to any pop music, or do you just listen to house and DJ music?
I've been trying to get into it lately because I'm very enamored by pop performances because, like, their confidence and character. Like, I mean, even, like, Dua Lipa is, like, a low-key. I'm a big low-key fan of Dua Lipa. Because she used to not be a great – I don't know if I can say that. She used to not be the best dancer, but now she, like, fucking owns it. And I'm the same way where, like –
At first, I wasn't used to dealing with big crowds or anything, and now I really own it. And I think she's, like, literally the same age as me, where it makes sense. Like, it's not a normal thing as a person to play in front of hundreds of thousands of people, tens of thousands of people. Right, right. And, um...
It's very inspiring seeing other artists that can really own it and take it in. Because most artists, I don't know if you can tell, are very insecure at heart. Well, isn't that the whole point of, like, wanting to perform in front of people? Because, like, I don't know. I don't know if you're a Swifty. But in Taylor Swift's 2019 documentary, Miss Americana, she talks about how...
When you're a performer, you're inherently insecure because you want to get on stage and you want people to cheer for you and clap for you and tell you you're good. Oh, damn. I think she's right. She's right. I think she's right, too. But, like, doesn't Taylor know that she's going to get that no matter what? Like, Taylor could walk on stage and everyone's like, yeah. No. I guess that was 2019. That was pre-COVID because after COVID, she became, like...
literally dominating the world. She's the biggest pop star the world has ever seen since Elvis. It's nuts. You literally don't want to get me started about Taylor Swift, respectfully. I won't shut up about it, so we need to move on because I will not stop talking about Taylor Swift. Do you like Taylor Swift?
Um, if I'm honest, I know I, I, if I'm really honest, I just haven't listened to the music cause it's such a deep, deep war. Know what Taylor Swift is? What? She's a 10 season TV show that I cannot commit myself to go into. Okay. But I know everyone's like, this is a great TV show. Like listen to watch Bridgerton. I'm like, I'm not listening to this.
Right. Here's what I'm going to do. Yeah. Here's what I'm going to tell me. I got to listen. I'm going to send you because I feel like I know you by the end of this. Yeah. I'm going to send you the songs I think you'll like. OK. And then you'll be like, wait, I'm kind of addicted.
What do I do? And I'll be like, oh, what do you do? You listen to this song. So then it gets deeper and then you'll get deeper and you'll get deeper and deeper and deeper and deeper and deeper. And then you'll just be a Swifty. And then I just abandoned my career. No, no, no, no, no, no, no. Then it'll be like, but daddy, I love him. John summit remix. Do you know what I mean? Like it's just happening. Not the worst idea. John, I kind of see that that is a timeline I could pursue.
John, if you remix a Taylor Swift song, I would kill myself. Like a happily kill... No, happy kill myself. Okay. Happy kill. That sounds fun. All right. I'll figure it out. I love summer, but that means more swimsuits and summer clothing. I like the styles. However, I'm not quite up to summer bod material yet. Do you guys think I'm up to summer bod? Wait, wait. So people are embracing the term bop? Bod. Oh, oh, oh.
I was invited to a pool party and I'm not sure if I want to go. Dot, dot, dot. Please help. Totally understand. I feel that. Sometimes I feel like I'm in a... Oh, shut up. Shut up. Let me take this one. Okay. Listen. So you want to go to a pool party and you're not feeling like super confident. Totally fine. Here's exactly what you do. You wear what makes you feel confident. Trust me. You will find something that makes you feel good.
You wear that and you go. You absolutely should not not go just because you don't feel good. You will find a article of clothing that will make you feel good and you will go and you will have the best time. That is my prescription. Done. He's right. My bestie and I are going to Europe for two months. I'm so excited but also so nervous to spend so much time together. I'm really drunk. Yeah.
Any advice on how to make sure we don't kill each other by the end? No. Well, as long as they don't sleep with the same guy, that's the whole thing, right? Have you ever heard a story like that? Of course, yeah. And what happens? They don't become friends afterwards. Like Amanda Knox? I don't know. I'm not that ingrained in pop. Is that a popular person? Amanda Knox? Amanda Knox? Yeah. Yeah.
Is she a pop singer? I'm so curious. Okay, should we take one more shot? Yeah, let's go for it. Eye contact. I'm ready. Eye contact? Yeah. Cheers. Cheers. See, you look like you're in so much pain. I am. I am.
Okay. Yeah, yeah. What's your real name? Is it Jake? It's Jacob. Oh, yeah, of course. Yeah. What's your real name, Jonathan? No, it's John. Just John? Yeah, I'm not a fraud. Okay, well, I'm just making sure. My best friend's boyfriend's name is John. Yeah. And we call him Johnny. Oh, does that really trigger him a little bit? A little bit, yeah. How do you know that? Just because if someone calls me Johnny, I'm like, what the fuck? No, we call him Johnny. Johnny.
Jenny? Johnny. Johnny. No, no, no. John plus honey. Johnny. Johnny. Yeah. So you're my Johnny for today.
It's endearing. I like it. No, Johnny's great. We're like, Johnny, Johnny. And then we also have John Day, which is John Sunday. Oh, I didn't know if it was Monday or Tuesday. No, no, no, no, no. We have John Day. And then we have Jatter Day, which is John Saturday. Of course. But you should do that. We have John Day, which is Monday, John Day. Jews Day, John Tuesday. Okay.
Jen's day, John Wednesday, jurors day, John Thursday, dry day. So my friends who already think that like everything's going, I'm going to tell them, I'm like, Hey, just so you guys know that today is John day. It is John. You don't understand. Like you need to make John day your personality. Like John day is your day. Do you understand? Like you need to understand like,
It is John Sunday. I feel like Friday, Saturdays, because I'm doing the shows, they kind of revolve around me a little bit, so it would be a little selfish if I said Sunday you guys are trying to relax. But you're a Leo. No, today is John Day. But you're a Leo. So you think I should embrace that more? Embrace John Day. Yeah, okay, cool. It is John Day. It is your day. And so what does that mean? It's like...
You're going to relax? It's just like, it's John Day. Like, I don't make the rules. Like, I don't make the rules. But like, you can, you can, whatever. Like, but it is John Day. Like, for example, like my best friend Julia will be like, it's her. Okay, so basically what it means is Jake, John, Julia Sunday. But like, realistically, it's John Sunday because without her boyfriend, like John, it makes no sense. So how does he play into this? He shows up.
He's not like the ring bearer. He's not like the guy who's entertaining you? No, he just kind of shows up. He's like... And hangs out with us. Oh, okay. And so basically all you need to do for John Day is just be there. That's a big request. I know, I know. But John Day is however you decide it.
So sometimes they can be a side character is what you're saying? No, sometimes John Day can be like your day. Like John Day can be, oh, I'm not. Is it ever John's? Is it ever his John Day? No. Are you kidding? No. John is with us on John Day. But you're a different John. So it doesn't count. Sometimes I want a John Day though. For John? Yeah, sometimes I want to just be like the background character. You do? Be the extra, yeah.
Do you like that? No, because I'm always the foreground person. I feel like sometimes you just want a John Day, right? Yeah. John, do you have any questions for me? I don't know. Do you ever want a John Day? All the time. That's what I'm saying. All the time. Yeah. Well, listen. Do you think ever John Day wants a...
John? Does he ever want a therapist? He wants me to get lost from his life. That's what he wants. And I tell him, I say, if you ever leave, bad things will happen. Yes. Wait, why is that? Because he keeps us sane. Oh, okay. Oh, not sane. He keeps you guys grounded. Yeah. Everyone needs a Junday in their life. Yes, and you are the constant Junday.
I don't know about that. My boyfriend of four months has never gotten me flowers after I hinted at it many times. Does this mean anything? What should I do? I've never gotten a girl flowers. Jonathan! No, I've gotten my mom flowers once. You've never gotten a girl flowers? Well, because, like, unless they're asking for it, why would you just give it, like... Are they, like, are they subconsciously asking for it? Is that what's going on? I've been single way too long, man.
God damn it. You've never gotten to grow flowers? No, but what kind of flowers, though? Any flowers. But what if they're allergic? You don't know. Who's allergic to flowers? My mom has a lily allergy. All right, so you're telling me you need to be my therapist for a second. You've never gotten to grow flowers? Should I? John, no.
Yes. Is that why I'm single? But have you ever gotten far enough in a relationship with a girl in the past five years since your past five-year relationship? Oh, no. Oh, no. No, no. No, no. That's a question for you, though, is that how long do you have to be seeing a girl to actually give her flowers? To me, that's like a two-year thing. Yeah! Two years? I just kill myself.
It's a big commitment, though, because that means, like, we're really... I would say... I thought you were going to say two weeks. Wait, people do that? Yes! I think that's a sign of, like, dependency, though. Gagged. Like, please don't leave me. I have flowers for you. You don't think... I'm blushing. Two years? All right, that's, like, an exaggeration. I think, like...
Six months. Because then the 12 month is when you introduce the parents. 12 months? Because it takes a long time to read somebody, right? Right. It takes, I, no, you're a Leo. You can read pretty quick. I just lied. Sorry. I just made that up. No, no. I'll take that. I'll take that. No, because you can only, how many times can you introduce somebody to your parents?
A few. Yeah. So you got to be very selective on that. You got to really. When's the last time you introduced a girl to your parents? Maybe like three years ago. Gagged. Yeah. Well, gagged though. What does that mean? Just like I'm shook. I'm like your urban dictionary right now. Like gagged is like I'm shook. Okay. All right. I understood. Yeah. What about you? I haven't had a boyfriend.
What's stopping you though? Like my insecurity. Yeah, so how do we get that out of you? I don't know. I think it takes people like me to be like, shut up. These thoughts in your head ain't real. Just go for it. Why am I going to cry? Why am I going to cry? Well, I needed that in my life though. It's true though. Nothing's stopping you.
I know. But you're too young and you're too successful to be even looking for it. So it doesn't even make sense. But I've never had it. So it's like I am looking for it. Do you know what I mean? It's like I've never had it. And like while I have found success in the space, like I am still looking for it because it's something I've never found. I think you're – yeah, that makes sense. I mean it's like you've never been to Disney World, so you want to check it out for a second. Yeah.
But you're going to show up and you're going to go, it's like, this shit sucks. Really? That's what I think, at least. But you're not talking to the right person about this. Can I introduce you to someone? Yeah. She's right behind you. Cassandra. Which one? We got two. Okay, that's Aquaripus. Aquaripus is fine, but Cassandra, Cassandra, Cassandra! This is Cassandra. Come here. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Are you fucking kidding me? She's beautiful. Well, John, what did we learn today?
What did we learn today? I feel like you learned a lot. Did we? We're kind of back at ground zero. I feel like we have a lot to learn. I think we have, you know what? Maybe we leave it at that. Like, we have so much to learn. Yeah, and we don't know it all. But why do your fans ask you questions like,
Do they think that we know it all or do they want a fresh perspective? I'm very curious. I think they just want an organic perspective. Yeah. Like they want a perspective of a friend that's like, I'm in the same boat as you and like, I'm going to give you the same advice you would give yourself. They want to be validated. Yeah. And you know what? Isn't that all anyone ever wants? That's so true. Well, John, thank you for coming on there. I actually don't know what just happened. I think I'm blacked out.
John, I love you. That was amazing. I love you too, man. You're great. Thank you. You're incredible, man. You are incredible. You're infectious. Your energy is great. I got introduced to you by multiple of my friends from Miami. They sent me your videos. I was like, who is this kid? You're going to be a star. You are a star. You got to hear that, though. You got to hear that from somebody. So it's true. John.
Thank you. Thank you, John. Pussies, would you want to give a little bye, pussies? Okay, how do I do this? Okay, so you go, bye, pussies, tense up. Tense up? Yeah, you put your thumb down. When I do the tense? Yeah. I'm looking at which one I'm looking at? This one. All right. Wait, how do I do it again? Bye, pussies, tense up. All right, bye, pussies, tense up. Yes!
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