Session 25: Lucy Hale
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Hi pussies, welcome back to Therapus. I am so excited about today's episode. If you know me, you know how much I love Pretty Little Liars. I've watched it ever since I was a kid and how it made me such a big fan of today's guest, Lucy Hale, who is one of the most talented, hardworking, grounded people I have met. She has so much wisdom to share and I'm so happy that she came on here and

was able to share it with everyone. And I'm really excited for you guys to listen to the episode. Submit Tell Me What's Wrong to PassThatPuss.com. If you're feeling fancy, leave me a name and a number and I'll give you a call. Okay. Enjoy the episode. Love you, pussies. Bye.

Hi, pussies, and welcome back to Therapist. Today, we have a very, very special guest, one of my all-time favorite actresses. I am the biggest fan ever. When I first met her, I freaked out. We will get into that. Pussies, give a warm welcome to Lucy Hale. Aww. Aww.

You're so cute. When we saw each other at the gym, I was like, you! And you were like, you! No, I will, because I was freaking out. I was like so starstruck, and I was like... No, you don't understand. Me and my friend Claire, you're hysterical. We send your videos back and forth, so I'm a fan as well. That really made my day, and then we started working out together. We were like... Now we're Pilates...

Pussies. Pilates pussies. We're pee-pees. How does your body feel today? Because I'm quite sore. I'm sore. I don't. Okay, did you start at 8 a.m. yesterday? You were there. No, but because I was told 8.15 and then I showed up. Oh, no, no, no. We did start at 8.15. Oh, okay, okay. Yeah, but I always get everywhere. Early. 10, 15 minutes early.

Yeah, you are really on top of it. You're like one of the first guests to show up like early. Okay, guys, Lucy showed up flowers and 10 minutes early. It's so me to show up annoyingly early to everything. That's not annoying. I always tell my friends like, uh,

Do you have the friend that always shows up late? And then so you tell them, oh, dinner's at 8, but dinner's really at 7.45, so you know they're going to show up on time. Otherwise, they show up at 8.15. I'm the opposite. Okay. I'm the opposite. So people tell you late times. Yes, yes. So I've always been that way. I think I get it from my dad.

I'm like the girl who shows up at the airport three hours early. Yeah. But you know what? I need the time. I need intentional. I need slow. I need to be prepared. Do I need to get a coffee at the airport and a water? I want to look at the books, like do my calls, charge my devices. You really take care of yourself in a really good way. You know what? Thank you so much for saying that. It's been...

It's been a journey to get to that point. But you really do. You really, really do. I try only because it makes me feel good. Right. Like, because I feel like I used to do that for other people. And I was like, I hate everyone. I hate you. And I felt really resentful. But no, I love a schedule. I love a structure. You, but like. I have bad qualities and habits though. I just. Like literally name one. Okay. Like literally two days ago.

I get really very upset by like very minor things. Me too. It's something I'm working on. So I was in the middle of traffic. I was at, where was I? La Brea. Like La Brea and Santa Monica. And you know when you're in the middle of traffic

Across was it called a intersection and the light you're like, oh shit. It's turning yellow I hope I can make it through well I didn't I was stuck halfway through the intersection and it's red and I see the car in front of me and they Easily have like four or five feet to right up. So I'm not right in the middle of the intersection so I like give a little love tap to be like I like waves. I was like, can you didn't move? Saw me didn't move. So I was like, let me just

beep a little louder yeah it beeps a little louder I see her eyes look in the mirror she's looking at me we're looking at each other and I'm like can you move doesn't move so meanwhile I'm like about to get t-boned by all these cars cut to same I mean it happened to me once but oh geez in an uber I don't drive oh my god so I'm like listening to the story and I'm like this doesn't sound like a bad quality yeah no I'm getting there okay so I'm um you know light turns green I rolled down my window and literally said something not nice and like flipped her off

So I get really upset. Like I have like a impulsive anger thing. That's not a bad quality. I like to not cause more chaos in the world. So to me... That was bad. So to the girl, I did that too. I'm really sorry. I felt bad. I felt bad. And also...

Yeah, I guess I'm like a little impulsive and emotional and irrational. What's your star sign? I'm a Gemini moon. No, no, no. No, no, no. I'm a Gemini sun, Scorpio moon, Leo rising. Right, we talked about this. What are you? Scorpio sun, Gemini moon, Gemini rising. Oh my God, we have the opposite. Yes.

Yes. So you like take care of yourself with your Scorpio moon. Scorpio moon. So that's where you're so in touch with yourself. Right. And then is that yes, yes, yes. Cause I think you know a lot more about this cause you, she was telling me before this, we were talking about Mercury retrograde and you were like saying like planets and stuff. And I'm like, Oh my God, that is so beyond what I know. So I don't really know that much, but I feel like I like to pretend like I do. I know, I know the, the bare minimum, but I like to learn about it. And so Mercury retrograde,

Do you know it's actually Mercury retrograde, not Mercury in retrograde? I've always said in retrograde. That's the Mandela effect. Is it? It could be. I'm sure. We could go on a deep, dark, rabbit hole about that. But I also believe parallel realities are happening at the same time. I believe in that too. I believe in that more than I believe in aliens.

I really hardcore believe in aliens. Do you really? Yeah, yeah. Okay, can you like help me? Like, I struggle with it. Help you believe? Yes, I struggle. Okay, babes. Okay. Please. Okay, okay, okay, okay. So do you... Okay, I'm not coming at you judgmentally. No, you can though. No, no, no, I'm not because I'm not judging you. I'm going to come at it from a different angle. So do you believe that planet Earth is the only place... Do you believe that our universe is the only universe? Okay, so... So...

So do you believe there's other planets that could have human like beings? Of course. But do I believe that they've reached us?

No. You don't? I don't have the... I feel like I have... So... Yeah. I'm so glad you asked. So I believe... It is my belief. So this is what I always do with friends. Yeah. I go so deep, so spiritual, so philosophical. It really annoys people. But this is the perfect space to do it. This is the perfect space to do it. So I believe...

To be a human being is like the biggest gift, right? Like we come here to love, to learn, to grow, to like heal our trauma, heal our karma, ancestral trauma, yada, yada, yada. So I believe that aliens...

And as humans, we have emotion. I believe that aliens don't have that. I think they're fascinated by human beings. But I also think there are different... People are going to listen to this and be like, Lucy needs to be locked up. But this actually is my belief. I believe there are light... I like to call them light beings, not aliens. Because I do view them as...

I feel like they're trying to help humans. I feel like when they make contact, which I believe they have and do, they might be here amongst us. They might be in this room. We just don't know. But I believe they do come here to communicate something to us and or they view us, they're fascinated by us.

what we're doing with the planet. Trying to warn us or trying to like study us. I don't know. We should go to Roswell, New Mexico. Is that where shit goes down? You know, a lot of alien sightings have shown up where they've tested nuclear bombs. Got it. This is where they did the nuclear bomb testing. So I'm like, holy shit. Like they're trying to tell us something. Yeah, like please don't blow up the planet. Right. Okay, that makes more sense. Yeah. Okay, this is making... But tell me why...

Tell me why it's hard for you. I grew up with like a mom that was very, she's a tourist, so she was very like matter of fact. Okay, got it. And she's like,

not the biggest conspiracy believer. Like she's, my mom's a journalist. So she's very, she's very into like facts and like, this is what I think. Very literal. Just very literal. Not like, just like, like look, like things are how they seem and it's like never that deep. So that's just kind of the mindset I grew up with. But I think if I watched something, um,

I would believe it. I just have like, I think because in the media people are like aliens are these like green creatures when it's like probably a lot more like scientific than that. I think it's like light. It's like energy or, you know, because realistically if they're getting to earth and they live in another universe, like they're able to travel like that. So they're probably not like a tangible thing.

Although I would love for them to be green, like what we see in the cartoons. Like how cute. Like that'd be fun. Like E.T. Come on. That's like my dream. I'd love to stumble upon an alien. Oh, you would be their best friend. They'd probably be like, we're putting her back down. No, no. I'd be like, I'm home. You know? You'd be like, let's all meditate. Let's all get places early. They'd be like, oh, what's happening? I just, because I grew up with a mom who, she was very open-minded and loving, but a really religious background. Okay.

And yet I've always had the mentality of like, okay, but what's really out there? Why are we really here? What's really going on from a very young age? So I've always thought, what would be the opposite of literal thinking? Figurative? Sure. Right? Am I wrong? It sounds- We're going to go with that. It sounds correct. Yeah. Okay. So I've always just thought like outside of the box. Like I don't really-

Need to see the proof. Like I got that. It's more of like a feeling. The one movie that like really like made me believe in it. Have you seen Arrival?

I mean, one of the best extraterrestrial movies of all time. It makes me like sob and cry. And who is it? Amy Adams. It's Amy Adams. Yeah. But that relationship, like it's, it's that it's, that's the dynamic I'm talking about. Like they, in that movie where they coming to warn or help or just be like, yeah. But then they're like languages like time and it's like, sorry, spoiler. And it's like fascinating. And like, Oh,

Oh, I love it. It's so good. And then also Interstellar kind of made me... That? Yeah. That is the type of stuff that keeps me up at night. Yeah, me too, because what the fuck is happening? What the fuck is happening? Yeah. So that's how I live my life every day. It's like, but what...

really is happening. I just like, I see what you mean about like the parallel universes too. Like I always think time exists on like a flat plain field as opposed to like linear. Have you seen the show Dark ever? It's German. Would you ever watch a show with subtitles? Yeah, right? Yeah. I mean, this isn't full. Well, I'm watching Shogun is subtitles. How's Shogun? It's beautiful. I need to watch it. Only one episode in. Stunning.

I'm on episode four of Baby Reindeer. Oh, my God. Oh, my God. We got to pivot. We got to pivot. Okay, pop culture. Okay. Did you finish? Are you in the middle? Are you at the beginning? I'm at the turning point where I don't want to spoil anything, but I'm deeply disturbed. I'm so deeply disturbed. Does it get worse? It gets. That's the worst it gets. Okay, whoa, because I'm scared. That's the worst it gets, and then the rest of it is him like...

You're you've it's so interesting that it happens smack in the middle because it's like you are like confused about his actions before. And then now his actions make sense. I have a question. Yes.

Okay, it's a two-part question. Have you ever had a stalker or have you lightly stalked someone? Like define lightly stalked. Like we've all internet stalked. Yes. I've never actually stalked someone. But like before a date, like yeah, I'll look up where they grew up.

Like, yeah, like I'll look through their windows. No, like I look up there. I know you just like it's I have to. I look at their home house, their parents, their Zillow. But like I've never. No, I've never like actually stalked someone like in person. But like, yeah, yeah. Internet stalked for sure. OK, cool. Cool. Cool. Have you? No, no, no, no, no, no. I'm trying to think like I I've definitely like pushed it with.

It's like the thing where you can't, it's like a self-sabotage. I'm like, why can't I put my phone down? Why have I somehow ended up on his ex's mom's, you know? It's just a rabbit hole. You just go in a spiral. So yeah, maybe really intense internet stalking, but her in person. I mean, I have thought like, oh, I wonder...

Where they go get coffee or like, I wonder where they go grocery shopping, but I- I honestly don't think I've ever, yeah, no, I've never done that. Okay, well, good to know. I mean-

But the end of Baby Reindeer, which I assume you'll finish today or tomorrow, the final scene is seriously, like, I live for a good needle drop final scene. Okay. And, like, it was one of the best. Okay. Like, everything comes full circle, and you're like, oh! Oh, my God. Like, your jaw hits the floor. It's so good. Richard Gadd is just, like, really talented, too. Brilliant. Absolutely brilliant. And, like, so amazing. Do you know it's based off a one-man show? No, you were telling me this yesterday. Yeah, I think it's called Monkey See, Monkey Do, and it's like,

Episode four is the one man show that he put on. So what happens in episode four, he performed as a one man show and there's videos of it on the internet with the real life Martha laughing.

No. Get comfortable. Oh, sorry. I was like, why did I wear jeans? No, get comfortable. I also like have, I move a lot. Do you like the, do you like that? That's a queripus. You know why I know that? Because that's the last episode of yours I listened to that Alexander named it. Yes, he did. And that's there. That was really quick. Therapist. And then I don't know what that one is.

You can name it. Oh, shit. Okay, I'll think on it. By the end of the... By the end of the... I know you'll have something. Okay, okay. I do have an extraterrestrial puss in my room. ETP. ETP. And then this is Cassandra. Cassandra. Which one's the OG? Penelope, but she needs surgery. Oh, no. Like, her tentacles, like, have broken. She's come undone. I have to, like... Do you net...

You're like, I feel like you knit. I just feel like you do. Like you are very at peace with yourself and people who are at peace with themselves, like knit. They knit. Yeah. I actually don't. You know, I can cross stitch. I could like, if you had a hole in, I could probably patch up. Penelopus? Penelopus. Oh, I might. But I'm not, I'm not a knitter. One year my mom got me,

The like life-size yarn where you use your arms as the needles. Have you seen it? It's like where you make those big cable knit blankets, but you use your arms as the needles. This was a couple years ago. So I can do that. I can do that. Was it fun? Did you enjoy doing that? I stayed up until like 4 a.m. I'm very stubborn. Yeah. I'm very like, I want to get it right. Right. I want to get it perfect. So that is a skill I have. That's a great skill. But I'm not, that's not how I relax at the end of the day. How do you relax at the end of the day?

You know, I do like to... It's going to be like just in line with knitting. I like to read. You know what I do? I feel like these days I've learned to embrace my social side a little more. I think it's very easy for me to be in solitude. I actually love it. I love to plan out my next day or get comfortable with how I'm feeling, be with my dogs. But...

But now I feel like it's equal parts connection. I think that's important for me.

But how do I relax? I don't know. I've been having a lot of trouble relaxing at the end of the long day. Tell me what you do. Ever since I stopped working like a typical office job, like it's like hard for me to like be like at what point in the day do I relax? Yeah. Do you know what I mean? Because like, okay, like do I write this at night or do I write it during the day? Or do I create at night or do I create during the day? And then all my friends come home at night because that's their time to relax because they work office jobs. Right.

Also, you might relate to this. Like I derive so much self-worth by how much I'm doing. Me too. Yes. Like so much to the point where I...

when I'm not doing, doing, doing, it literally makes me feel like shit. So I feel like sometimes I have to pack my day with, like, I'm the, I'm the crazy person that puts in like 8 a.m. Make breakfast. Like just so I used to do that. I walk the dog crazy, but, but it, but it's so ingrained in who I am. So I'm actually trying to undo that because I think once,

what are we doing if we're just like hustling all the time? Like life is not supposed to be that way. I put it in there though. Cause like I need, it's like the feeling of like clicking something done. Exactly. I need to click. Okay. It feels gratifying, but I'm the same way. I'm like, okay. And I, and I've still am like this every single day. Like I am really hard on myself when I feel like I haven't,

accomplished enough. And I was just telling you when Mercury's, not when Mercury's retrograde, when Mercury's retrograde, because it's my ruling planet and because Mercury, excuse me, because Mercury rules communication, things get really quiet in my life. And so this last month I've been like,

Should I take up knitting? Like, you know, like what am I doing? I feel, but it's really good for me. I think when I'm feeling uncomfortable, it's like, ooh, let's take a look at that. Like, why do I feel the need to be so busy? And I also feel like I'm at that point, I'm like almost 35. What? Yeah. Yeah.

Yeah, I'll be 35 in June. Wait, I'm not even just saying this. I thought you were in your late 20s. I love you so much. I really thought you were in your late 20s, but continue. I simultaneously feel 15 and like,

like 75 at the same time. Yeah, but I'm almost 35. I've been living out here for 20 years. Now I forgot what I was talking about. Mercury. Mercury, but, but, but. Something about you were, you were, it's very quiet for you and you like, why is this making you uncomfortable? Yeah, I've somehow lost my train of thought. That's okay. Well, you know what? 35, I've lived out here 20 years. I'm at this point in my life. What was I going to say? It clearly was super profound. Yeah.

But like, you know. It's really important. It'll come back to me. I don't know. It'll come back to you. Which you moved out here 20 years ago? I moved out here with my mom when I was 15. Wow. Yeah. For Octane. Yeah. And I think there was like something. I feel like if I would have moved out any later and had been more active.

jaded by life and life experience. I don't know if we would have moved out here because my mom and I were like, yeah, you know, we're going to LA. Lucy's going to be an actress. Like not fully realizing, I mean, you know, there's so many people out here with a dream and so many people who are vying for the same jobs and experiences and we just...

were super naive and like packed up the car. And I think it was that like blind faith that sent out that like response. Here I go again, sent out that response to the universe. It was like, it's going to work out. And it did. Yeah. Um, I literally, I didn't graduate, uh, high school. It didn't go to college. Like I just was a little girl who liked the arts. And when did you start really like, how long did it take you to start booking stuff out here? So, um,

I did like a year or two of the Nickelodeon Disney circuit of like really auditioning for those shows and did like Ned's Declassified, Drake and Josh, Wizards of Waverly Place, like things like that. And then I booked this NBC pilot, which is what like kind of changed everything for me. It was called Bionic Woman. Okay. Did a CW show after that.

that did one season. It was called privileged. That show got canceled. And I still remember this day. I got a call. It was either a call or an email. It wasn't a text. Cause that was so long ago. It was like, I think it was an email where it was the producers of privilege that said, we have a new project we're developing. Would you read it? Do you want to be involved? And it was pretty little layers. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.

I'm not going to harp on it, but like you can harp on it. You don't understand what that show meant to me as a kid. Please tell me. You really don't understand. Like I there's two trailers I remember seeing growing up. One was Hannah Montana. Of course. And one was Pretty Little Liars. And I remember thinking, oh, shit.

Oh, fucking shit. What has just happened? What has just shifted in my life? And I remember, weirdly enough, being so jealous of everyone on the show that they had like a tormented stalker. Being like, this is so cool. They don't have to focus on school. They can just like focus on mysteries. Like, oh my God, it was the best. It's so funny because it's like they never had jobs really. No. They never had pets.

which I thought was really interesting. Yeah. The cops were so shitty in that town. The worst. And so many good looking people. Everyone was hot. Everyone was so hot. Every single person was hot. Everyone was hooking up with each other. And, um, it was,

It was a time. Thank you. That's so sweet. It really is my favorite, favorite, favorite, favorite. You've seen every episode? Yeah, almost. I think I like, I think I... You're like, I gave up. At the end of season six, I think I like was like applying to college or something and like never, but oh yeah, those first five, five, half of season six seasons, that was all me. Oh my God. It's so... I mean, it eventually got like wonky bananas. Oh, a few times. Yeah. A few times. Because, but the writers...

Jeez Louise. It's the matcha. The writers, I was so impressed by them because, you know, I feel like first season of Pretty Little Liars was so iconic. There was nothing. I mean, I say there's nothing like it. Like we obviously had inspirations from other, other shows before it, but it's,

For our generation, like, there was nothing like it. Well, they're already doing reboots now. So it's like, that's what you know. And, you know, the first season was so solid. And, like, we were doing 25 episode seasons, which is, like, almost unheard of now. And so these writers were having to, like, come up with new ideas, recycle ideas, like...

Uh, and quickly too. Sometimes we would get our lines the day before. Whoa. Or, you know, they'd pivot and they changed the lines when we're at work because it has to go through a filter of up here all the way down to us. Um, and those writers were just working so hard. And I always say like that show, uh,

I honed my craft on that show. I learned the industry on that show. I learned every aspect of what it takes to make a TV show from lighting to acting, directing, costume, hair and makeup, like really having an appreciation of a well-oiled machine like that and seeing it work and seeing it work for that long. Like I have chills thinking about it. That's never happened when I've actually like,

I'll have moments where I'm like, holy crap, that was a phenomenon. It was. To be a part of that lightning in a bottle, it means even more to me now, actually, because, I don't know, maybe I'm just more at peace in my life and can actually hold on to those amazing moments. But I love that show. I can't say enough about it. We grew up, we spent our 20s on the show, so many ups and downs, but...

I mean, and then like hearing the impact it has on people. I just, I just remember, um, was Mona's reveal season one. Mona's reveal. Oh God. That must've been season one. I need like a flow chart. I think it was season one. Cause I remember I lived in the suburbs at the time and I ran around my block, uh,

screaming that it was A day, A day, because this was the day that we were going to find out who A was. And I'll never forget it. I think it was season one, and also Janelle Parrish, who played Mona, she was so damn good on that show. She's so good. She was, I remember, first of all, I freaking love Janelle so much, but I remember I was like, I remember I had moments where I was like, oh, I want to play Mona, because Mona got all the amazing actor-y things. Right.

Yeah. Wow. Wow. What a time. What a time. What a fucking show. Well, I mean, I'm like literally going to rewatch it after this, but I literally forgot to ask you, is there anything you're, I mean, cause you're so happy all the time, but is there, I mean, not peace. Like you're not like, you know, I would say happy as like people that are like, like, you're just like, I, I,

I'll take that because that like balanced feeling. You're grounded. You're really grounded. I try. I mean, listen, my internal monologue and my inner critic is she be loud. Yeah. She be loud sometimes. And that can be a lot. But I do feel like I am grounded and I'm not always happy. I'm actually like, I think people would be surprised to know, like I'm actually like quite dark. Yeah. Well, Scorpio. Yeah. Like there is that like,

I don't want to say maybe it's depth, darkness, but, but I am like, I am a eternal optimist. I do. I like to see life through rose colored glasses and not in like a ignorant way. And like, I choose to see the good in people and the good in an experience and like take the lesson. I think there's enough like pessimists and negativity around. I don't want to be one of them.

Well, so that being said, what was your question? What are you therapists about? Okay. Okay. Okay. Okay. So here's the thing. So channel that. Let me channel. Channel that. Let me talk to the ETs real quick. No. Okay. Therapist. Okay. Genuinely nothing today. Okay. Okay. Shout out to Laura. We went to the farmer's market on Sunday. And I generally just get really ticked off when people.

Or just fucking rude for no reason. Or like, or in a, for a power play or, so basically we were in line getting these like delicious, gorgeous, beautiful berries. I like, we were getting blackberries, blueberries. And, and we were in this line and this woman ahead of us,

talks to these gentlemen who are selling the berries, who are working very hard, and is like, this is disgusting. You need to tell people not to touch their hands on the berries. Like, I don't know who those people are. And meanwhile, I'm thinking, who do you think fucking picked these berries? You don't know who picked these berries. It takes hands to pick berries. And wash them. And wash them. Like, go home, put your berries in some baking soda and water, and shut up. Like, I just get really mad when people of...

When people are just rude for no reason, and especially to people who are working really hard. Right. It's the same thing with, like, when people are rude to waiters or the valet. Right. And are very dismissive and, like, don't treat them like people. Yeah. People, at the end of the day, we all just want to be seen and be nice. It's so easy to be nice. And guess what? You're going to feel later. You're going to feel better about it later that night. Right. It is really easy to be nice. I just, like, it's... We're just... We're so quick to, like...

Lash out at people And I'm guilty of it too Listen to the girl Who like cursed at the girl In the middle of the crosswalk The other day It's so funny you say that though Because like in LA That's so foreign But like I grew up In New York Like flipping people off And screaming at people That's just part of the culture there Yeah but like And then I got here And I did that the other day I was in the car With my best friend Alice And I

We, this car was pulling in or this car was just being a fucking asshole. Yeah. And like, I don't drive and I don't catch on to that stuff, but I caught on to this. Yeah. And I flipped him off and I was like, oh, you shouldn't have done that. And I was like, why? He drove back into the parking lot. Yep.

parked right in front of us and stared, ran around, stared. We were like terrified, drove out, followed us. Oh my God. And then we like eventually lost him. But like, I was like, oh shit, I guess I can't do that here. You don't know. You don't know what people are going through or like what people are capable of. A lot. Dark. Yeah. Dark shit. Yeah.

Wow. That's like a really nice thing to be therapist about. Normally mine is pretty like selfish. What are you therapist about? I was therapist about. It's okay to be selfish. I woke up at like eight today. Okay. And like, I liked, I, I was late for my workout cause I woke up so late. I woke up at like, honestly, I think it will got out about eight 20. Okay. And I was like, Oh,

like, oh, and it just set off my day so poorly. And then I sat in the car. Yeah, my headphones were dead. So I just stared like this and I got there finally. And then I left and I finally could listen to music. But then I had a headache and I was like, this is just, you know, it's going to make you feel better.

I give unsolicited advice. No, that's what this is for. But I'm like, this is the perfect podcast to give unsolicited advice. Yes, we're about to give a lot of advice. I can't wait. But I was saying, what's going to make you feel better? Go sit on that bench in your little secret garden. Literally. Do you ever take moments out of your day just to like... I need to. You have your breathing app. I know. I need to breathe. But it's really aggressive. It's really aggressive. It makes me not want to breathe. It makes me not want to breathe. It makes me angry. I'm like, oh, shut up. It makes me want to hold my breath. See, I'm stubborn. I'd be like, fuck you. I'm going to hold my breath. Yeah. You told me to breathe. Yeah. But you should...

Lovely garden. I do have a very lovely garden that I don't use. It always makes me feel better. The sun does always make me feel better. I know. I have to live in LA. Oh, I literally can never live anywhere else. Have you ever done a cartography? I know we have to get to the questions. No, I have all day. Okay, great. Have you ever heard of cartography? No, what's that? Okay, so I haven't had it done before, but it's, I believe it's,

It's they read your astrological birth chart, but it explains like where your soul is the happiest. Oh, so like there are different like lines within the stars. I don't know, like your Neptune line and something. And and there are different points in the earth for different purposes. So like there I'm willing to bet like maybe for you, definitely for me, like L.A. is my grounding place. OK, like where I feel calm. But there's also like a point.

On the earth, there's probably people who do this for a living listening and they're like, she's not explaining it right. But it's my belief there's like other points in the earth, like a place where you go to for growth, a place you go to like live it up, a place you go where you don't feel good.

So I'm dying to get it done because I'm really curious. I would do it with you. Let's go. Okay. Should we go? I'm not kidding. I would love to do this. Can we find one today and go next week? 1,000%. This sounds like Louise. That is right up your alley. Louise, should we all go? You've done it? Okay. Did I explain it okay? Yeah. There's a bunch of different lines. There's one for work. There's one for romance. Do you have a person? Where's my romance? Or where's your romance? I'll have to look. This was like two years ago. Do you do it in LA? No. Oh.

I bet we could find someone virtual. Yeah. We're in LA. I need a person. We're in LA. We're in LA. We're in the land of horoscopes and spirituality. Yes, baby. All right. Are you ready? I'm ready. Are you going to tell me what's wrong? Yeah. And you watched the episode, so you know the name of the game. Yes. You're going to give pretty good advice. You're so good at this, though. You're so quick. Really? Quick-witted. Quick-mind. Yeah. Thank you. Very smart. It takes a really, really smart person to be that quick. Thank you. Listen.

Lucy! No, I'm serious. Oh my God. No, I'm serious. I know a lot of people who are idiots. Yeah. And I'm like, are you thinking anything? No. I think too much. I really respect a quick, quick mind. I have to be quick. Yeah. I have to be quick. And I, sometimes I like do this and I like, like, am I good at this? Like, am I any good at this? Like, why am I doing this? But thank you. I appreciated that. I love a compliment. And I feel like that is the.

Why do we all think that? That we're not supposed to be doing what we're doing? Yes. It's ridiculous. I don't know. I don't like it. It's weird. Stop it. It's because people are just ready to eat you alive. Yeah. For example, Taylor Swift released her new album. Yes, she did. Within 24 hours, right? She released 31 songs. Okay? Yeah. 31 songs that she wrote herself. Yeah.

There's going to need to be a week to digest those songs. I've had to listen to it three times. Three times. And it's really incredible how many things I'm discovering. But people have just been so quick to eat her alive for it. And if they don't like it off the first listen, eat her alive. And I think we see... I think honestly seeing the way some...

famous people are treated as to what they do makes you not like think that you're supposed to do what you do. I think it's disgusting that we criticize anyone's art. Oh, I think it's literally fucking disgusting. Do you know how hard it is to make anything? Do you know how hard it is to be brave enough to be willing to fail? Right. Like,

The critic thing is so crazy to me because, A, are they ever happy? No. Although her album from like a lot of critics got like five stars. But, you know, in my industry, it's so hard for a critic to like a movie. So I've had to like completely try my best. And it's really hard to not care about world perception and ultimately be like,

why am I doing this? Am I doing this? It's either to have fun. It's either to learn and grow. It's usually for like growth. It's usually just because like, I love what I do and I want to create. If I'm not creating something, I feel, I feel off. Yeah. Which is like this last month when I felt like edgy. It's because it's like, I love playing and I love, um, I just simply put love doing what I do. So I just, the whole,

criticizing what people make is weird. It's weird. It's toxic. And why are we so quick to like diminish someone's

Or people like love to cancel a bright, not cancel is not the right word, but like something bright and shiny, whether it be a project or a person. Like because I think a lot of us aspire to that. We're so quick to judge it because it's a projection of our own internal shit. So how about we all work on our own shit and stop making other people feel bad? Right. And it's like, no, I completely agree. It is so weird to like,

It feels like school like never ends really. And like that's like a teacher grading your assignment. 100%. You know what I mean? And it's like, well, what's, I don't know. But I completely get what you're saying. Yeah.

Oh my God. Is this like the most serious podcast you've ever done? Honestly, honestly, you'd be surprised. This is like very lighthearted to me. Okay, good. Cause sometimes like my, um, my inner critics, like too much. Do you ever have the thing where you're like, oh, it's too much or it's not enough? I'm too much. I'm like, no, no, no. But do you ever have the feeling where it's both at the same time? I live in that sometimes where I'm like, oh, it's,

And I don't know how that is actually possible. Right. To feel like you are equal part, not all the time, in moments, obviously, like, not enough and too much. I'm like, yeah, but what about, like, this is right in between? No, I know what you mean. Okay. Like, I feel like, I honestly feel like that's why it's sometimes so, I used to do these, like, skits all the time. Uh-huh.

I read like one thing that was like, he's doing too much of them. And I was like, oh shit. And then I haven't been able to do it ever since. Yeah. It's been a month and a half. I listened and then, and then I'm going to go to the bathroom and then we can start on the questions. But I listened to,

the Joey King episode on Armchair Expert the other day. And did you listen? So, and Dax was talking about like whenever he reads something online, I'm not going to do about the 7-Eleven guy on the parrot. He, okay. So, fuck, I'm not going to explain this right.

I'm so mad at this. But basically he was saying he views anyone who's talking, saying something negative to him about him online, just as if it were someone walking into 7-Eleven with a talking parrot on their shoulder. So it's like, does that make sense? Kind of. Am I explaining it in that right way? And I was like, oh, it's so true. I feel like these very, because think about it. It really is a small percentage of people who are talking.

like the haters. It really is, but it feels bigger because our minds as humans automatically go, there can be a hundred things going right and 99 things going right. And we'll focus on the one thing that isn't right. Like, I don't know why that is, but cause I feel like I have dealt with that too until I'm really realizing it's like, Oh my God, Lucy, like you have so much love and support around. You don't focus on the one person who says like,

Yeah. Shit that has nothing to do with you because nothing in life is personal. Honestly, I truly believe that if someone's a dick to you, there's probably so much behind the curtains of their life going on. And they're like, I'm just going to project that onto you.

Everyone in front of me. It's so much easier when you realize like nothing is personal. And you know what? Nothing is personal because everyone cares about themselves more than they care about you. Except for the lady at the farmer's market with the berries. Yeah, that was personal. That was a personal attack. Or the girl in front of you. That was personal.

That was so personal. That was so personal. That's a great advice. Nothing is personal. I always remember my mom telling me that no one is thinking about you as much as you think about you. We're all like internal narcissists. Yeah, we all are. It's natural. Yeah. And like, yeah. Yeah. I'm going to go pee. Go pee. Okay. Are you ready? I'm so, so ready. What do you prescribe for someone who doesn't feel super close with any of their friend groups?

Nobody makes an effort to hang out and I'm always left feeling like I don't click with them. But I don't have a backup group. What do I do? Immediately, if you're not clicking with people, those aren't your people. They aren't your people. They're not your people. I think say bye-bye. Yeah, I think say bye too. But also, I don't know, have you ever had to like clean house? Like your life is a house. I've been cleaned.

I've been cleaned. Oh, you've done some housekeeping. No, like I've, someone's cleaned, purged me. You were like a chair in someone's house and they put you on the street. And so it felt horrible at the time. Like I remember it was my senior year of high school, but they had their reasons and they were super valid and it was whatever. And,

I was super upset at the time. It was like the saddest I've ever been. And then I was like, well, thank God that happened. Because then I was like, I wouldn't have made my friends in. Now you're a chair in like a really beautiful home. Yeah. That's for you. A house that I like. I've been on both ends of it as well. But I do think like the last couple years of my life, I've... God, you have to get so clear on what you want in your life. Right. And this relates to this...

Yeah. Gal. Was it a girl or a guy? It doesn't matter. This, this person, um, like the second you, you have to put yourself first. I don't care what people say, but make yourself your number one priority, right? You have to first and then everything else falls into place. Cause what happens when you put yourself first and you live authentically, then the people will come. We worry so much about other things outside of us and then yet we still feel empty. Right.

But you have to get right here. And then the relationships come. Then the jobs come. Then everything. And it'll be the right things. And it's the people that stay. And I think she's almost there if she's realizing that she doesn't click with her friend group. And she's saying she's stressed because she doesn't have a backup group. But what I think people forget when they're in friend groups is that they kind of have these, like, blind spots. Blinders, yeah. And, like, they're so scared of, like, leaving this group because they're scared that they're going to have no friends. But they've had these blinders on. Yeah.

for years and then the second they take them off and that doesn't even mean dropping their friend group she doesn't need to like be like drop like so like just you know like open up your eyes a little and see who's around you and you'll probably make better friends and like yeah you might have to make more of an effort because you've been in this friend group and like that might be intimidating to some people but I think if you take down the blinders and you just start interacting with the people around you like you'll find someone that you click with absolutely and sometimes it's like

it's so uncomfortable to do that and scary and we're all kind of lonely. So it's hard. But like I was talking about earlier, when you feel uncomfortable, it's like a chance to, to grow. Yeah. So what do we prescribe? I'm thinking really hard right now. Okay. A show. I mean, do you, cause you usually prescribe a song or a show. Does it have to be? It can literally be anything. Okay. I feel like,

Okay, I'm trying to think of like when I was at this. I'm like, I feel like she needs a little vacation. I feel like she needs, you know, when you're feeling like that, you need to go somewhere, get alone with your thoughts, and then you know how to move forward. Now you can do something cute and quick because you're cute and quick. Okay, I think I'm going to prescribe something about a friend group and she's upset and she doesn't like, forgive me if I'm, wait, hold on. I usually always prescribe the click. Okay.

Wait, I've never seen this. You've never seen The Click? No. Oh, it's exceptional. It's this girl that moves to a new school and she wants so badly to be in this friend group. Who's in it? I honestly forget. There's one person. The Click. The Click. But it's about this girl. She moves to a new school. She wants to be friends with these people and they're in this friend group and it's like very exclusive and it just shows you what friend groups are and all that. Sounds like Mean Girls. I always prescribe Mean Girls too, but I honestly think...

I honestly think Pretty Little Liars is a great prescription because you have this friend group, but each character has their own lives. And they're able to go back to their friend group because, like, you all have this, like, shared experience of a stalker. Yes. But then you also all have your own lives. Emily has her own friends. Hannah has her own friends. Aria has her own friends. Aria had one friend, her teacher. I'm like, Aria, I don't...

I feel like, yeah. Yes, I know what you're saying. Oh my God, I thought my zipper was undone. No, don't worry. We're good, we're good. We're good, we're good. Okay, would you? No, you would. I trust you, you would. I would. But yeah, that's what I prescribe. I prescribe Pretty Little Liars. Me too. I honestly think for as unhealthy of the dynamic they lived was...

They were pretty solid friends to each other and they pretty much knew how to navigate life with friendships. That was the, that was the foundation of the show was the female friendship. Yeah. Do you think they're okay? I feel like they all have PTSD. Oh, major PTSD. What do you think they're up to?

Well, talking about knitting, like I feel like Aria is like probably knitting and she's probably I feel like she's really codependent with Ezra. I think she's the most traumatized. I think but in a way that she's become like a recluse. Yes, maybe. And I feel like she is just I feel like Ezra is maybe living a big a big life. And she she's like enmeshed with his life.

Is that okay to say? Maybe she's doing great. Well, that's, it's the truth. That's what I, that's, you played her. I do know in the spinoff, there was, that there, that there was talk that we had had a kid and we're putting it up for adoption. Yes. But Bailey Madison is a really good friend of mine and she's,

She was the one... No. She was having a baby and Ari and Ezra were going to adopt the baby? Yeah, it was something like that. There was some crossover. There was some talk of Ari and Ezra. But I think that's a great... I think 100% that's what Ari is up to. Tell me if you think I'm wrong. I think Hannah is so in denial and trying to repress it. 100%. And she's partying and living in the city and doing drugs. Yes, yes, yes. And I think Spencer's a professor. 100... Yes, yes. And I think...

I don't know what the fuck Emily is up to. I feel like Emily is like a world travel, like living a- Yes. She's deleted social media. I feel like she's probably the healthiest of the four. She's in touch with her past. Yeah. Yeah. Definitely. Oh my God. This is my childhood dream come true. Oh my God.

Yeah, that's what I think they're fucking up to. Oh my God. I love it. I love it. You heard it here first. That is what Aria's up to. Aria's unwell. Aria's not well. She was never well though. They never, none of them really. None of them were ever well. I can't stop ghosting my therapist slash making up excuses to not go to our sessions. And this is such perfect timing because my therapist called me at 11 today and I skipped. Dude. Okay, I can't believe that question. So...

I have actually taken a step back from my therapist. Really? Yeah. But in a, in a way that like she was really proud of me in a way where, um, it's important to like take notice of when you're, when it, when it's not making you feel good. Right. Cause I think there's a difference in like speaking about your, we have to acknowledge how we feel, um,

But there is a point where you can like plateau and there is a point where it's not helping you anymore. So, I mean, I prescribe honesty. I prescribe transparency. I'm just telling her what's up. You have to like just rip the bandaid off. And like if your therapist is not happy for you, then like you need to run for the hills. Right. Like your therapist should want to be happy to see you like move on and grow. Yeah. I also, I fucking have a ghosting problem. But with my current therapist. Oh, you do like, like you ghost people? Yeah.

Jake! I know. Oh my God, we need to hack this. I know it's really bad. I don't know how to tell people no. Oh, you're a people pleaser. Yeah, I'm the biggest people pleaser. You're a fellow PP. And I'm like, well, why would I, like, I just get so uncomfortable. And I know, and I'm like, would they rather get a paragraph from me about why I can't do this anymore? Or like, would they rather just, like, I don't know. Or, because I'm a fellow PP as well, people pleaser, um,

I, cause what I'll do is like, I can say no now, but I'll give like a million reasons why I need to say no. Yeah. Instead of just being like, no, I'm not interested in you. Right. Or no, I don't want to go to dinner. Like that's a good enough answer and how people handle it. That's their problem. Agreed. That is so true. I mean, that's just taking care of yourself. But I think my issue with therapy is that I am so self-aware that it makes me uncomfortable to talk about sometimes. Yeah. Like,

I know everything. Like, you know, I know about myself. Like, I know what's good. And, like, sometimes she'll...

But like, so I always like plan these sessions and then I'm always on the way to something. I'm like, I'm not going to call you in the car and I'm not. Yeah. And then I just, I feel, I always like get this paranoid feeling that like someone is listening or something. Like I feel so uncomfortable. Yeah. And I think that's in part post COVID like with like this tech stuff. Cause like therapy, it was so important to do it in person. Yeah. But it's difficult for me to do in person. Like I have to kind of just do it over the phone and like,

I don't know. I need to, but I do talk to her once a week. It's we're scheduled for twice a week and I always miss one. Once a week is very good. I know. Yeah. But I think I prescribed to this girl some honesty as well. Honesty. Honesty. Just telling your therapist, like maybe like once every two weeks or. Or like, maybe you're just not vibing with the therapist. You could also, there's other therapists. I've ghosted therapists, like hardcore.

Like, I don't ghost people. Like, no, like, therapists are people. I don't ghost, like, relationships and stuff. I ghost because I've never had one. But I ghost, so maybe I will. But I ghost. There's time. There is time. I ghost therapists, like, a lot. Yeah. Like, if I'm done. How many therapists do you have? In the past three years. Yeah.

Four? Okay, okay. That's aggressive. Yeah. Four. What if there was like a date, not a dating app, like an app for therapists where you could. I really like my one right now. Yeah. I love her. You do? You love her. Okay, she's here to stay. She's here to stay. Okay, good. She knows me. I'm comfortable talking about like sex and like how I feel about my body. It really is such a specific relationship. You know? Like I don't feel like judged when I like.

Because sometimes, like, my other therapist that I had before this was TikTok famous. And I didn't know until, like, our- What does that mean? Like, she was- I'll show you. She was, like- Oh, no. She had, like, millions of followers. For being a therapist. For being a therapist. And I was like, this just isn't going to work for me. Oh, no. This isn't going to work. Oh, that's so interesting because- Was she talking about her patients? Just not using their name? No. I honestly didn't go through it. I just knew that, like, for something that, like-

I do my, a lot of my anxiety derives from that app. I can't also have a therapist that is on it. You, your anxiety derives from TikTok. Yeah. This is exactly why I don't have it. Yeah. How did, I don't know how I've managed to not, but, but I think it was because I'm also, how old are you? I'm 24. Yeah. So I'm 11. Oh my God. I'm 11 years older than you. Wow. Holy shit. Oh my God. I'm almost literally in my mid thirties. What is going on?

That's fucking crazy. Aliens, beat me up. Take me away. No, I'm kidding. I love my 30s. But I think I made... I'm older than you. So I think if even I were three years younger, you just... That's all you know, right? Like there wasn't an option not to have one. But I knew... I was like, social media is really tricky for me. Like it's the sure tell way to get me to like feel bad about myself or that I'm not doing enough. And so...

I don't, I feel like most people maybe feel that way. No, they do. But mine was a weird anxiety because it was like that used to be my anxiety. And then TikTok became kind of like my career. Right. And then I was like, oh my God, now I'm really stressed out because like.

My entire career is in the hands of whether people think I'm annoying or want to watch me or like. Oh my gosh, it's so nuanced and layered. I yeah. And it's like and it's such a privileged thing to say, like, I'm so grateful that I can do it as a career and I'm so happy. It's like I love it when it hits. It fucking hits. And like when I make people laugh, there is no greater feeling. But yeah, like right now I'm like in this like kind of rut creatively and like it's just like been hard.

Yeah. Yeah. I relate. It's okay. I think like being in a rut, it's time to... I've been writing a lot. Yeah, exactly. You're taking time to figure out what you want to do. I've been writing a lot, a lot. And I've been watching a lot of TV. I like actually can't wait to see all the things you're going to do. Oh, stop. I mean, there's so many people that I meet where I'm like, oh yeah, like you're genuinely like...

You're so funny. Like I said, you're very smart. I hope you give yourself that credit. Thank you. I give myself a decent amount of credit. I'm brilliant. I know. But not for the smartness. The smartness, I'm like, I think I'm just pretending because I don't really know. It's funny that all my skits came from historical stuff because I didn't really know anything about history. I hate history. I took the fucking sentence and ran with it.

I'm in love with a man who has a girlfriend, but texts me and entertains my messages on the side. I just know he's in love with me, but he's still with his girlfriend. How do we proceed? Leave him. He's never gonna leave her for you. We all know this story. They're not ever gonna leave you for you.

To be with you. Ever. Ever. It's just tale as old as time, right? And then even if they do, do you want someone? Do you want someone who's being... Unfaithful? Yeah. I personally don't. Right. That's a them issue. So I prescribe...

Delete the number. Literally delete the number. Like I've had to do that where something psychologically happens where I will delete every tangible thing about them. Yeah. And when you delete the contact, like something happens. Like you're like, I'm free. I also think just deleting the contact and honestly ghosting.

Ghost. This is when it's okay to ghost. I don't think she should be like, well, this is why I'm ghosting you because he sounds like such a gaslighter already. And like, he'll just be like, well, no, don't, don't. And then you'll stay. Like, I think ghost clean cut. He will stay tethered to you forever. You'll look back a year from now and be like, what have I done? So. I prescribe. Yeah.

I like to say I prescribe ghosting. I prescribe ghosting. I also prescribe, you know, the movie. Is it The Holiday with Cameron Diaz? Yes. And isn't Kate Winslet like in love with this guy and he has a girlfriend? Yeah. Yeah. You know what? Yeah. Cut it off. Yeah. So I prescribe The Holiday. The Holiday and ghosting. I love that. That's really healthy of us. I feel a nice balance. Yeah.

I was so in love with a guy. We were together for four years. He did little things like get me flowers and surprises for no reason. My best friend never really liked him and kept telling me we should break up. On our fourth anniversary, I found out they had been hooking up for a year and she was pregnant. Help, I don't know what to do with my life. Isn't that crazy? That like made me tear up. No. I'm about to give some really mean advice. Like I think she should smear the fuck out of them.

Really? Like, give me an example. Like, full, gnarly. Like, you tell every single person that literally has ears what they've done. If they can't hear you, fucking sign it. Like, you tell every single person what they've done. And you just make sure that, like, if you guys want to be happy, you be happy with no one else. That's how bitter and angry I would be. Oh, my God. I just, like, can't even...

I'm trying to like put myself in that headspace. Like, you know, I've definitely been hurt and betrayed, but not on that level. And I've also done things in that way. So I know how it feels on both ends. Right. Not that I slept with my friend. Yeah. But I'm like, did I? No, I'm just kidding. I did not. I definitely did not. Of course. I'm like, okay, what, what would I really prescribe? I think when, when life throws you something that like catastrophic, right? Like,

The girl who sent it in, like, her life is about to, like, become so magical. Because I truly believe when something that painful, it's, like, clearly happening for a reason. So this sounds so cheesy, but, like, run towards what's, like, hurting you. Because I believe that, like, there is a lesson in that. So I'm not going to prescribe revenge because I personally think... I'm like, I'm... I personally think...

Like, do whatever you need to do. Like, go to a rec room or a rage room or, like, you know, be angry. Be pissed. Like, do whatever you need to do because I think, like, don't repress the anger. But, like, the best revenge in the world is, like, thriving and knowing you look amazing and knowing you've handled yourself with grace and kindness even when people don't deserve it. Yeah. That is the best fucking feeling in the world. I had a situation...

Oh, about a year ago where there were two ways I could have handled it. Yeah. Really, really badly. Yeah. Where my internal was like, Lucy, do it. Say it. Yeah. Say the truth. Yell it. Yeah. All in the names like do that. Or there was the more gentle way, which I took. And it took so much patience and kindness and understanding. And knowing I took that route, knowing I have nothing to be shameful of and regretful of.

I know I couldn't have handled it in a better way. So honestly, like, yes, like, God, it feels so good to yell and scream. And there is a way to do that without actually inflicting pain on them. So I would say I prescribe all of that. All of what I just said. I take back my revenge. That sounds a lot happier. But there is a way to to.

To still have that feeling of revenge. Cause I think we need that as humans to be like, fuck you. Right. And I want you to know that I say, fuck you. Like, like I, we need that like gratifying feeling, but how do you do that in a healthy way? Uh, it kind of goes away. Cause I, I felt that for like a year. I wanted to just like, let this person know, like you hurt me and I want you to know how bad you hurt me, but now I don't feel that anymore. And I think that that went away because of the way I handled it. Right.

So I prescribe being the bigger person. But also like go, literally go to a rage room. Have you ever been to one? No, I need to. Do you know what it is? Yeah, it's when you throw shit at stuff, right? Aria did that in an episode, by the way. I remember that. So I literally got to do. What was the reason for that again? I don't know. I mean, she was mad at Ezra.

I love Ezra. I feel like she was always mad at him. Yeah. We should go to a rage room. I would love to go to a rage room with you. You know what I prescribe? Have you ever seen Yellow Jackets? Mm-hmm. That show is crazy. I prescribe Yellow Jackets because the main character, I forget the name, honestly, because it's been off season for so long. Yeah.

She gets pregnant with her best friend's boyfriend's kid. And she told her best friend, like, she hated him. See, how do you come up with this stuff so quickly? I watch a lot of TV. So quickly. I watch a lot of TV. That sucks. Like, I'm just...

Well, blessings to you, dear woman. And you're better off, honestly. Speaking of TV, do you care if we play a game really quickly? Yes. I think I told you about this in Pilates. Is this the A one? You guys, this came to me in like a dream. And I was like, oh, I'm fucking playing this game. Okay. So, Mike, the game is, are these real messages from A or did I just lie for fun?

I'm going to be so mad at you. No, you actually, I think you'll get the, okay, ready? Uh-huh. Sorry about losing my temper. My bad. Real or fake? A text from A? Yeah. Sorry about losing my temper. My bad. That's a lie. It's real. Okay, it's real. It's a real text, and she sent it in all caps. A sent this? Yes. To who? Do you know? No. No. I don't remember. Yeah, I can point blank to tell you I don't remember that one. Okay. Okay.

Give me the killer or I'll use your eggs. That's real. That's real. Because who harvested their eggs? I think it was Emily. I think it was Emily. I think it was Emily. A is for Allison, not acid. That's fake. That's fake. M, I heard you're gay. Shit.

I feel like that might be real. It's fake. It's fake. But I feel like A was taunting her about her sexuality. She was. I based these off of real ones. And it was like a time where it wasn't really talked about in TV in that way. Okay. I was like, that's so direct, but it could be true. Okay. This one's a tricky one. You're as in the dark as Jenna looking for me in all the wrong places. Jenna's blind. Real. Real. Okay. Yeah.

This one's kind of, okay. Be careful, Hannah. I hear prison food makes you fat. That's so real. It's real. That was an iconic one. That's an iconic one. Okay, ready? Yeah. She might not see, but she surely can hear. Did you bitches see Jenna? Real? Fake. Fake. Yay! Oink, oink. No, that's real. That's real. That's real. That's real.

He's like, what's going on? I'm going to put you to sleep in her grave, M. Nighty night, bitch. I love the bitch. Real. Fake. Fake. It's so fake. Fake. And then the final one. Give me your best performance. Oh, wait, no, there's two more. Okay, got it. I guess I forgot my meds this morning, but I haven't forgotten what you bitches did. You think that's fake? It's fake. Okay. I was like, who is on meds? Spencer when she was addicted to Adderall. Oh, true facts. Yeah. Okay.

I'm still here, bitches. And I know everything. Real. Real. So real. That was fun. Oh my God. That was fun. That was really a delight. I'm happy I was able to trick you on a feel. Yeah, that was good. That was good. What did we learn today? Because I've learned a lot. I've learned a lot.

I've learned that aliens are real. I've learned that aliens are real. It's Mercury retrograde. Mercury retrograde cartography. Yes. I've learned about cartography. That sometimes revenge isn't the best option. And what else do we need to know today? I mean. That your inner peace is more important than ruining someone else's. I believe so. Yeah. I.

We'll leave it at that. Pussy? I agree. You're a little angel. I love you so much. I love you. This is so fun. Thank you. Will you say bye to the pussies? Bye, pussies. Bye, pussies. Bye, pussies. Oh, oh, oh, oh. Oh, yeah. What are you naming? Okay. Puss, puss. Puss, puss, puss. Puss. What if? Pastrami. Oh, that was so good. But he's blue, so it doesn't really make sense. He's pastrami. Pastrami. He's pastrami. Like a pastrami sandwich. And you've named him. Yeah. I keep pastrami. Yay. Yay.

Hi, pussies. Put your tents up. Put your tents up. Tents up. Smart cookie.