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- Hello and welcome to another episode of the Trash Taste. I apparently have forgotten how to speak. Okay, let me do that again. Hello and welcome to another episode of the Trash Taste podcast. I'm your host for today, Garnt. With me once again are the boys and treats for you guys 'cause this is another timely episode because-

- We have just gotten back from LA for our AX trip. And Joey, you've just got back from Vietnam. Well, actually I don't know how long you were in Vietnam for. - I was in Vietnam for 15 days. - 15 days? - Yeah, two weeks roughly. - Wow. - So sorry if you missed me at AX, I was busy celebrating my mom's birthday. - That was the number one question was where the fuck is Joey? Why did he abandon you?

- Why does he not love you? - Sorry, I abandoned the boys because I love my mom more than the boys. - Well, that's complicated. - I've chosen trash taste over my family so many times. Now suddenly you want to turn your family? - My mom is slightly above the boys. - I can't believe it, Joe. I thought we were brothers, Joey. I thought we were fam.

Nah, yeah. But yeah, went to Vietnam for two weeks and it was hot as balls. - It's hotter than here. - Like it is now. It is, as you know, summer in Japan and our AC unit chose today to start being broken. So we are here trying to wear our trash. - You're only gonna see Garnt and I wearing these

- Okay, so you clearly wanna take them off. So why don't you show off the jackets to the viewers. - These are available right now if you're watching this as it comes out. - Yes, yes. - They're only available for like two more weeks, so get them now while you can. 'Cause one's gone, it's gone, but I'll bring it back. - Yeah. - And now just shout out for your day. - I'm gonna reveal that I'm wearing these fucking shoes. - It's summer, okay? - It's hot.

Jacket. People at AX, I see people rocking this a lot. How are they rocking at AX? It must have been hot. Dude, so many people were wearing this one. Check out this back design.

- Ooh, look at that. - Nice for the upcoming winter. What do you got there? - I'm not gonna stand up 'cause I'm wearing other stuff. - You still got the label on Connor. - Oh yeah. - Connor, you still got the label on. - I just got it today. - Looks clean though, don't worry. And of course. - We'll rip the hood off. - Okay, well and Garnt of course has the amazing jacket. - I am so happy because I finally convinced the team to make a denim jacket. This is the most Garnt thing I've ever seen in my life.

- It looks so natural. That's clean as fuck. Look at that. - That's nice dude. - Shit. - The embroidery is so fucking shit. - It is very nice. - We went for a Japanese newsprint kind of style for this AX, but I know that a lot of people were confused whether we were selling this online. We are selling this online at-

denim jacket here and the hoodie there as well. And the other t-shirts too. - T-shirt underneath as well. - Yeah. - And get it 'cause this is a fucking sick merch drop. - Yeah, yeah, yeah. - Link's in the description, get it now. - Yeah, we sold out at AX, so we're opening up online sales. So there you go. You got two more weeks to get these while you can.

- I don't know if we're gonna do a jean jacket again. Frankly. - I hope so. - I want another one. - I really like this one. Okay, it's really hot in here. So I'm gonna take this off right now. - Yeah, good idea. - Shut off that beautiful t-shirt. Oh Joey, nice t-shirt too. - Thanks man. - Is there something on the back? - I think so. - There is. - Okay, there's one dozen. I can't remember if there was enough. - It's all right, the front is still popping, that's why. - Yeah, love that one.

But yeah, how was Vietnam, Joe? - Yeah, so as I was saying, it's hot as hell in Japan right now. I mean, we've talked about summer here. We've done entire episodes where we talk about how crushing the Japanese summer is. I didn't know there was a Dark Souls level of hotness until I went to Vietnam in the mid-90s.

in the middle of June and July. - Welcome to Southeast Asia. - Like I wasn't sweating, I was perspiring. - Yeah, perspiring? - It was- - Is that a word? - Perspirating. - Perspirating. It was raining. - Perspiring. - Perspiring, it was raining from my face. It was disgusting. Like I'm pretty sure I made like my own cloud system just because of just how fucking sweaty it was. - You should take a Nikon avocado, he's got a little water weight.

- Dude, it was weird. Like I ate, okay, so obviously I'm on vacation, right? My whole family's on vacation. So when you're on vacation mode, you don't care about what you eat, right? - Yeah. - Right, so you just go ham on every, all the food, right? Because I wanted to have the most, it was my first time in Vietnam. I wanted to get all of the authentic Vietnamese food, right? - Yeah. - Some of it's healthy, of course, and some of it isn't. So I was like, fuck it, I'll just get everything. And somehow, even though I haven't gorged myself that much in, I'd say at least the past three or four months,

I somehow still lost weight.

- You're probably walking around a lot. - Because of, yeah, well, I mean, we went on some hikes, but also I think just during the day, I'm sweating like 10 liters. So like legit, like Nikocado, if you wanna lose some weight, bro. - This is not my good actual advice, by the way. - Go to Vietnam. - This is shit advice. - You wanna lose that water weight, bro? You'll lose it immediately in Vietnam. - Even when we were in America, like I noticed that like I was walking more on average in America than I was when I'm here in Japan. - Really? - Yeah, it doesn't make any fucking sense. - How?

- Well, 'cause we were doing a lot of- - 'Cause the house is a big one. - Well, yeah, yeah, sorry. Roderick's house is huge. Everything I was doing involved me being standing up and walking around even if it's just like a little bit. Like I was just doing a lot more walking. Like in Japan, when I'm streaming, I'll sit there and I'll look and I'll be like, wow. - Oh, there's your problem. - 1500 steps the whole day, huh? - Well, this is what happens when you touch grass. It's like if you just sit in,

- That's what happens when you don't sleep well. - I was also, we were just doing stuff. I was doing stuff every single day. So I was always walking every day. Even if I was Ubering there, I was then had to walk. 'Cause like in America, you know, it's actually, you still have to walk a lot. 'Cause you're like, oh, the parking lot is fucking 900 meters long. And you're like, oh shit, okay, well that's 500 steps right there. You know, it's like, they sneak it in. You don't realize it. Everything actually is fucking spread out so goddamn much. - I think the conclusion from this is that you need to be walking

or what in Japan. - No, no, 'cause I think the conclusion you can take from this is that Connor walks more in America, but he is a very small percentage of people. The people that stream all day. - I work from home. - Yeah, that work from home and stream all day and do not go outside. If you go to America, then you end up walking more unless you're in America and you stream all day as well. - I'm actively trying to not go outside right now. And if I do, it's like the taxi is the buffer.

I'm getting in there and I'm going, 'cause I don't want to be outside, it sucks. - Oh, you would have hated it in Vietnam. - Yeah, I would have, I would have. - I think the hottest day we had was when I was in Saigon and it was like 46 degrees. - Fuck that. - And that's not including the humidity. - I'm going to Thailand in winter. - Oh, hell yeah. - Oh my God, the humidity was just, it was like, I never felt like my life was in danger from heat.

until I went to Vietnam. Like just stepping outside, not even in the sun, in the shade, right? Because the humidity here is bad, but somehow Vietnam was just like, we can get hotter.

when it comes to the humidity. So like there was literally no difference between standing in the sun and standing in the shade. You just felt like there was a heater attached to your face at all times. And it was disgusting. Oh my God. - I'm surprised because normally like for Thailand at least, July period is actually like one of the cooler periods 'cause it's rainy season in Thailand.

- Yeah. - Like the hottest seasons are kind of, actually maybe I'm thinking of May, but like there is a definite hot period, but the best period to go to like Southeast Asia is kind of around like February kind of like period. - Yeah. - Well, I mean, when we went to Thailand in January, it was great. - Yeah, that was like perfect weather. - That was perfect. - It was actually like nice. We could like breathe and exist and cross eyes. - Yeah, exactly. - Yeah.

- Yeah, California was great weather too though. - Yeah, yeah, California, we didn't have a heat wave this time. There was no kind of like- - It's hot, but then you go in shade and you're like, oh, it's not too bad. - It's bearable. - Yeah, for sure. - Yeah, it's bearable. But the important question is, did you rent a moped? - See, I really wanted to, 'cause I'd heard about Garnt's stories of riding in a moped and almost dying. And I was like, I want that near death experience. And I tried, but because I was like,

- Because I was with my family, I asked my mom and she was like, "Well, you know, it's my birthday."

And I don't want you to die on my birthday. - You did the wrong thing. You should have asked for forgiveness. - No, you don't know my mom. I can't ask for forgiveness. She's an Asian mom. She never forgets. - You have the Asian mom debuff that's going on in family. - That I can't ask for forgiveness. That's not a thing that happens. But like, you know, I was really down. My dad was like kind of down. My sister and my mom were just like, no, I don't want to die.

So unfortunately I couldn't, but hopefully next time I go back. - Next time, boys trip, boys trip. - If we go back to Vietnam and my mom is in there. - I'm not going there in the summer, that's what I'm hearing, I'm shocked now. - Oh my God, dude, you would have been, like every time I walked past like foreigners who are in Vietnam, 'cause there was like a surprising amount of foreigners during that time of year. I was like, I thought for sure everyone was gonna try and avoid the summer heat, but there was a lot of people there. - Isn't it like, don't they get shit tons of tourists 'cause it's super cheap?

- Well, yeah, that too, but it's cheap all year round. So you'd think you'd try and aim for like, you know, January, February time. - People like normally like to take summer holidays, you know. - Europe, it's like a culture of going on holiday in the summer. It's like summer's the time you go. - Oh my God, yeah. But every time I saw a European tourist and they look like they wanted to kill themselves. They were just like, it never gets hot here. It never gets hot at home like this. - I can't imagine them surviving Southeast Asian summers like that. - Oh my God, they were not surviving. It was bad.

But other than the heat, everything else was fucking amazing. I went to what is considered to be the best banh mi restaurant or I guess place in all of Vietnam. It's this place in Hoi An that Anthony- - Banh mi is just like the sandwiches. - Like the sandwiches, Vietnamese sandwiches. But apparently this one is the highest rated or the best in all of Vietnam because Anthony Bourdain went to it.

- Yes. I need a white man to tell me what that banh mi is. Finally a white man's opinion. - But it was so weird because, yeah, no. I found that really weird 'cause I was like, when we were at the hotel in Hoi An and I was like, oh, we really wanna get some good Vietnamese food, where do you recommend? This full Vietnamese guy at the front desk was just like, have you ever heard of Anthony Bourdain?

He recommended this place in Hoi An. - I wonder if they were like, "Hey, my cousin says this one's the best." And you're like, "I don't know, who's that? "The white guy?" - I was expecting like a super local place, right? But it's just like, no, go to this place that the white man said was good. - I don't know, man. I've seen how Gordon Ramsay cooks a Pad Thai

I've seen that video where I'm like, okay, highly respected chef cooks Southeast Asian cuisine. And even like there's a video where Gordon Ramsay goes to this like Thai restaurant and he cooks the Pad Thai and the chef, and I remember the first time watching it, I've never had such an uncle Rogers kind of like reaction to someone cooking my country's cuisine. I'm like, this is not Pad Thai. And thank God the Thai chef who was very politely

very politely said, "This is not how we make Pad Thai in Thailand." - He seemed pretty offended. I don't know. - He tried to politely word it. And to be fair to Gordon Ramsay, he did very much take his advice on how to cook a Pad Thai. But if Anthony Bourdain says this is the best banh mi restaurant in Vietnam, I'm gonna call sauce on that. - Yeah, it was also really weird because I saw the clip of the actual episode where he actually went there, just to double check this was the right place.

Apparently I didn't have to because the moment I got to this place in front of it, there's this huge like A3 fucking poster of Anthony Bourdain just like deep-throating upon me. And right next to it in this like cursive text, it was a quote from Anthony Bourdain and it said, "The best baguette I've ever had."

And I thought, has Anthony Bourdain never been to France? Has he never been to Europe? 'Cause I'm not too sure about that. - It was a mistranslation. They were like, "I think he said baguette actually." - Yeah. - "I thought it was a Vietnamese story. You think he meant it as a baguette?" "No, no, he said baguette." - Maybe banh mi in Vietnamese equals baguette. I don't know. But I was like, "Okay, you know what? I'll take the benefit of the doubt. I'll go in." To be fair, it was the best banh mi

I've ever had. - Yeah. - And we went to a couple of places in Vietnam as well and obviously outside of Vietnam. And I would say, you know what? He wasn't fully capping, but I'm sure some Vietnamese people are gonna be like, no, no, that one's overrated, go to this one. - There's definitely gotta be some capping. - Of course. - Sometimes people come to Japan and then they've been here like four or five times. They'll be like, dude, I know the best spot to eat. And I'm like,

- Okay, tell me. And then they'll just send me something and it'll be like a really well-known restaurant. It'll be like something that everyone knows about that is just pretty okay. And it's like, this is not a find. You went on Google and typed in sushi restaurant. It's the first one that come up. - Have you ever heard of Ichiran? - Yeah, yeah. I mean, to be fair, every ramen pick I see on Twitter is Ichiran, which is fine. You can get Ichiran. I mean, I like Ichiran, it's good, but it's like the McDonald's of Ichiran.

- Yeah, it's better. - I like it, it tastes good. We've said this a million times, but yeah, I'm very skeptical when somebody who visits a place is like, "This is the best place here." It's like, "You don't know shit." - Yeah, my favorite one though, and that was the other thing I loved about Vietnam is, and obviously this gets memes a lot in like Western countries that have Vietnamese restaurants. It's just like, some of them just have the best fucking names.

for restaurants. I went to this restaurant in Sapa when we did this like three day hike in the mountains. Beautiful place, definitely go. But there was just this restaurant right next to our hotel just called Yummy Restaurant. - Was it Yummy Restaurant?

And I kid you not, it was yummy. - I mean, actually no problem here. - Yeah, yeah, yeah. - I was like, well, all right. I mean, you weren't lying. This was a yummy restaurant. It was just very weird though when you look up on Google, the first thing that comes up is yummy restaurant. - Well, I feel like, you know, I've seen this quite a lot in Thailand at least where sometimes if you just want to make your restaurant stand out,

You know, like, you know, if you open a Thai restaurant here in, you know, a foreign country, you want to like a Thai name to it. But over there, if you just put like a fucking English name, that's what makes it stand out. You know, we don't want the traditional Thai name. We want like the foreign name, the wacky foreign name. - Yeah, of course. - You know, so, you know, it doesn't surprise me that yummy restaurant is a name of a restaurant. - I mean, it got my attention. - Yeah. - So fucking stupid I had this thought.

'Cause when we were in Thailand, I remember seeing all those weird statues. Like they would have like one-to-one size statues of like Thor. - Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. - And I was like, why don't you...

Just have like a normal ass restaurant, but in front of it, it's just like, just dudes, like Captain America being rammed by like Tony Stark or something. A one-to-one statue. So every fucking Google pic of the restaurant is just a statue of like a copyrighted Disney character just being raw dogged. And so then that way, everyone want to post about your place.

And people are gonna go there. And all I have to do is commission a statue of like, maybe like, I don't know. - What, just like the most cursed shit imaginable? - It's like Mario, like on his knees in front of Luigi. And he's like, oh, I'm doing his pants and it's one-to-one scale.

- And like that's the picture that everyone sees. - Like Kermit making out with Mickey Mouse. - Yeah, or like Mario and Sonic making out one to one statue and like you can't avoid it 'cause people are gonna see it and post about it. - Sure. - And you can do it in these places 'cause nobody's

- I'm just clapping down on these copyright issues. - Something similar happened when I was in Hoi An. There was this fucking bar that was like themed around Mr. Bean. - Oh, was he making out with someone? - No. - They didn't see my idea. - No, I wish. - That's too legit. - But it was like the entire bar, like all the drinks, all the food was themed around Mr. Bean. And I'm like,

- I don't think this got the all clear from Raw and Atkinson. - That's not enough. You need something like absolutely out there, but that also won't get it shut down. 'Cause I assume there's gotta be a limit, right? - Yeah. I mean, you still want people to come to your restaurant. You don't wanna be having like a nice little meal and then you just look and then it's just Mario and Sonic making out and you're just like- - I don't know, man. - I don't know if this is helping my appetite. - I would go to that. - So it's like Mario and Sonic making out,

in front and then you get in and then on the roof, it's like two Spider-Mans in that one Spider-Man meme where he's like slapping his ass in the bed, but on the roof and the whole restaurant is just absolutely fucked copyright characters just going at it. And that way everyone wants to come in and see what's going on. And they sit down and I charge like I rip off all the tourists as well. I think this is a great idea. - Yeah, another thing as well that I noticed about Vietnam is that like, you know, the concept of happy hour, right?

at like a bar or a restaurant, right? Like normally, what would you say is like the average time of an happy hour? - They scam you, it's like 3:00 PM on a Monday. - But 3:00 PM, like usually, right? When you go to like any Western country, happy hours usually, I don't know, between maybe like,

four and seven, maybe five and seven. It's a couple of hours. - It's never a happy hour. - It's never seven. Seven's too not generous. People are gonna start drinking at seven. - It stops at like six, at the latest, I feel. - I saw a restaurant in Saigon, dead ass, right in front of the store, big sign, happy hour, 9:00 AM to 8:00 PM. And I'm like, when is it not happy hour? - Maybe that's just a- - At that point, every hour is happy hour, baby. - At that point, just say, "We have free drinks." It's just coming. - I think they're just happy.

- We are happy during these hours. There's not a lot of work. - Because we're open. - They misunderstood the concept of happy hour. - They clearly didn't know what happy hour was. They just thought like happy hour means we're open. - It's actually stressful for us after this time. So please actually be more considerate after this. - But I went in and sure enough, the guy was like, yeah, buy two, get one free. And we were there at like 12. And I was like, how are you surviving as a business?

- Well, I mean, if people are coming there at like 9:00 AM, you must be doing something right. - Yeah, if it's a ball, bring it at 9:00 AM, they're killing it. - Yeah, yeah, sure, sure. - What was your favorite place in Vietnam then? - Oh, geez, that's hard. I probably have to say Sapa. It's like right on the,

the Northern border of Vietnam. It's called the city in the clouds because it's like the elevation of this entire village is like a thousand meters up. And it's like, there's just these like clouds rolling over the hills. It looks like a fucking princess mononoke scene. It was so sick. And we went on this like two day hike down into the valley to like go to all of the indigenous Vietnamese villages.

and like kind of went around there. That was like fucking amazing. Like that, if you like hiking, for sure go there. - I hate hiking though. - And hiking in South East- - Hiking in the fucking jungle? - Hiking in South East Asia? - We were like dead ass in the jungle. - This episode is sponsored by ExpressVPN. Going online without ExpressVPN is like not having a case on your phone.

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- I've done that once and I think I almost got a heat stroke. 'Cause I'm like, how do I cool off? I can't splash water on myself because that's like the atmosphere is already doing that. - That actually sounds like my hell. - Really? - Hiking in the jungle. - Okay, I thought I would hate it as well. But then on the second day it was like raining quite a bit and I was just like, oh, thank God.

- Oh yeah. - Thank you. - Yeah, I love the rain in Southeast Asia 'cause you're like, you can literally feel like the climate like going down a few degrees. - Yeah. - And you're like, oh my God. - But the problem was it was a double-edged sword because it was like, I was cooling down from the rain, but this entire hike we were in in the jungle is like mud.

So I'm basically like ankle or like almost like, yeah, ankle deep in mud. I wore my Vessies and you know, those survived. So I definitely gave them like the best fucking promo they've ever had. Cause I came out of this hike, like my fucking shoes were muddy as shit. Still good. Not a single drop on my socks. - Literally sounds like my nightmare. - It was fantastic though. Like it was definitely a hard hike, but like just getting to see this like insane looking like views, it just didn't look real, but it was yeah, fucking amazing.

- Yeah. - Yeah, maybe I don't recommend for people who don't like hiking. I love hiking, so I enjoy the shit out of it, but. - Yeah, I realized, especially when I went on the ski trip, I was like, oh, so skiing's kind of like you get all the advantages of hiking, except without actually hiking.

- Why people love it? - Yeah, I was like, "Yo, why people are onto something, man?" - You can chill, you can drink. - They mean max hiking. - You have the fun part, which is just going down and then you can drink in between, get great views. And then they just built a device just to like get like cut the hiking out.

- Damn, if only it wasn't so expensive for a lot of people. - Yeah, exactly, right? - Oh, this is it. - Yeah, hiking is great if it's pay to win. If it's pay to win, if it's pay to win. - Like for me, it's like hiking is not a vacation. So hearing that this is a vacation, I'd be like, no. In my head, I'm like, this is like an activity and I wouldn't wanna do it as a, I don't know, my brain's weird like that.

- I don't know, I think for me, like hiking can definitely be like a role. 'Cause you know, it wasn't like we were like speed running this hike or anything. And it wasn't like that long of a hike either. I think we did maybe like 10, 15 kilometers. - Yeah. - Which is like nothing really. But you can get that done in like half a day. But I think like for me, it was just cool because you would never be able to see these like traditional villages or like know anything about it. Like our guide that took us was one of the members of this like indigenous Vietnamese village.

And she just like knew all the fucking shortcuts and shit. And it was just so cool to just be able to see firsthand these like insane environments that just like look straight out of a video game. So like, yeah, it was tiring, but- - Is that what you like about hiking, the views? - Yeah, I think like just if you're hiking, I would say like hiking in just like a forest that you can't see the views from, or like, you know, if you don't hike to like say the top of a mountain or whatever, then it's like,

"Okay, yeah, this is fine or whatever." But I think what I really enjoy about hiking is just like when you pull out of the really dense foresty areas into an open area and you get to see like where you got to and all the views and shit. Like that's really gratifying for me. It's just like, "Oh, I fucking did it." Like I got to this place and see this thing that I can only see

if only I had like gone through this like trek, right? - Yeah. - 'Cause like all these places were completely inaccessible by anything other than foot. - Right. - So just to be able to say that like, you know, I got to those places and got to see it for myself is like, I don't know. I find that really cool and gratifying. - Yeah. - I think that's why I really like, you know, just like climbing mountains and stuff as well. Like going on long walks and shit. - Yeah, that's the part I also like, that's the only part I like, which is the views. I don't like, but to say like, I don't,

from point A to point B. In fact, I fucking despise it. I'm not calling out hikers. I get the feeling of like, holy shit, this is a massive view. But I am that motherfucker who's going to complain from like the bottom to the top. - That's the British in you, dog.

I'm like, I mean, I get the views, but I'm not gonna say I enjoy the experience of hiking. - I don't know. I like, especially when it's like a muddy trail or like an off-road trail, I really enjoyed like the challenge aspect of it. Just to be like, oh cool, I fucking got through that and I didn't die. So it was like, I don't know. Maybe that's just me. I don't know. - That's how I feel when I survive LA.

- I made it to the next block without dying. - Yeah, also I don't know. I guess like another thing is like you said muddy stuff. I think I've kind of realized I fucking hate muddy things or mud or getting dirty. I don't know. It's a weird thing. - Fucking city boy.

- Well, I like, actually for me, I like a very good distinction. Like I am happy to get muddy and dirty when I am planning to do that. But I don't like it when I go to a place and it's like just fucking dirty and there's shit everywhere. And like a hoarder's house. It's like that kind of dirt or kind of stuff like that. I'm like, that is,

- You don't like when something is dirty in an environment that you're not expecting to be in. - Where it shouldn't be. But if you're telling me, "Hey Connor, you gotta go and fucking hike in the mud for three days and be gross." I'm like, "All right, cool." - Yeah, yeah. I think I only like, yeah, I'm the same thing. Like I'm not gonna fucking be walking down the street in Tokyo and like,

be happy if someone throws mud at me. Like I'm not like that. - It's like that's like, I don't associate like being muddy is the same part of my brain that like that thinks like stuff's dirty, right? It's different. Like mud is,

and all that kind of stuff and getting dirty in that sense is very different in my head to how I view like traditional- - Like natural dirty. - Well, yeah, like messy stuff or kind of like you go to a place like, I don't know, sometimes you go to a place and you're just like, man, I can't shit comfortably in this toilet, it's not clean.

- Something like that. - I think that's a big reason why I just never went camping a lot in the UK because I always associated it with, you know, now that I've been camping at other places, I'm like, oh, camping is so much fun. But in the UK, it's just like, you go out and it's just like, the floor is just muddy and you just like, especially if it's been raining and then you just got to trek out and you just never like, I'm just never,

- I get that. That sounds, I mean, I love camping, but if you told me to go camping in the UK, I'd probably be like, nah dog. - It's cold. - Nah, fuck that. - Yeah, if I'm gonna go hiking, normally I like a trail. I've never done like off trail hiking or anything like that. So maybe that might be fun. 'Cause I'm the same way. If I have time to like mentally prepared to be like, oh, you're gonna get like down and dirty and shit.

you're just gonna fuck yourself up, then I'm like, okay, at least I have preparation for that. But if I just wanna chill, I'm just like, I'm in like chill mode. Do not disturb chill mode right now. - Yeah, I mean, we definitely had days in Vietnam where we would just fucking hang out in the city and just maybe go have a bite to eat and just no physical activities whatsoever. But I think what was really fun about this trip is that there was kind of like a mixture of everything. Like there were some days where we were just like,

full on all day activity. And then there were some days where I was just fucking sleeping, you know? Like, and not doing anything, going to the pool, having a drink at the bar or whatever. I think it was like nice combination. - That sounds like my kind of vacation. - Yeah, yeah, that's the vacation I want. No physical activity. That's a work thing. - After all this crap we just did. - Yeah, so tell me about your guys' AX experience. How was it? - Well, yeah, so I went to LA like a week before you

'cause I actually had my charity event, which went pretty well. - Congratulations. - Yeah, congratulations on that, by the way. - Thank you, thank you, thank you. Yeah, that went well. It went great. I mean, I was like shitting myself a week before, 'cause I was like, "Okay, this is like real." And I was just filming a bunch of stuff before and prepping, and then I did like, did some other stuff as well. I can't remember what I did actually.

I went to Disneyland as well. - How was that? - That was interesting. So we had the like the super VIP tour. The one where you pay like a shit ton of money and you get a guy who shows you around and you get to cut every line. And it was not bad. I mean, Disney's not bad if you can skip every line. - Was it worth? - I mean, I didn't pay. - Then yes, I guess for you. - I think it was great. - If you don't pay for your ticket, how much did the ticket cost? - I think a normal Disneyland ticket is like $150.

- Wait, normal ones? - A normal ticket. - So how much was the VIP? - I think the VIP is a few thousand dollars. - Sheesh! - But you can, I think the benefit is that you can take as many people as you want on this tour. But everyone's paid for their tickets still. - Right. - So you could take like a group of 30 and everyone gets the privilege of cutting the line.

And I think a lot of- - Well, if you have a lot of money, I'm sure you can enjoy Disneyland. Who knew? - Well, I think the idea is that you normally split it between like 10 of you. So it's like an extra, and obviously you have to be wealthy as well. Because you know, I mean, you also have to be just wealthy in general to go to Disneyland.

- It's like those people in Japanese Disneyland where you can do weddings. - Yeah, oh my God. - At Japanese Disneyland. And I heard from a friend 'cause she knew someone who did a wedding at Disneyland. Dude, like minimum, it's like 400K. - Yeah, I believe that. - Yeah. - Yeah. - Wait, so 400,000 yen, you mean? - 400,000 dollars. - What? - Yeah. - Wait, what?

- No way. - I don't know how real that is. It's like including everything, like the catering and everything. But like you basically rent out Disneyland for the day. - That seems too cheap though for Disney. - Yeah, that seems too cheap. I don't know. That's like a Mr. Beast video. I'm like, holy shit. - I just gave you a new idea. - Yeah, I can't imagine paying

- I remember when Aki went to Disneyland a few weeks ago, she saw like another couple getting married at Disneyland. - So they must not have rented it out then, right? - Well, yeah, but like you rent out the actual castle, like the Disney castle, 'cause that's where they do everything. - Oh, okay. - But this is way too much stuff. - And they would bring you in on like horse and carriage. There'd be like an orchestra waiting for you to bring you in. And it's all open to the public, right? Until the inside of the castle. And this couple walks out, and from the video that Aki took, I was just like,

that looks like a very wealthy couple. You know when you can just tell from the looks, it's just like, they're probably super rich. Like immediately I was like, yeah, I can see why you're doing this 'cause- - Or maybe it's all a facade. - Maybe it's all a facade and they're all incredibly in debt right now. Who knows? - I streamed the whole time 'cause I was showing Mouse around 'cause Mouse wanted to go. I don't care about Disney, but I'll show Mouse around and everyone was like, oh, you know,

'cause in Japan people are like, "Is it okay to film there?" 'Cause in Japan you can't film or do anything at the Disney. I was like, "Yeah, you pay to win, baby." You pay, you can stream the whole goddamn thing. And they were like, they would let me go on the rides with the phone. They would let me do everything. And I was like, it's crazy how it's, even though it's not technically the same company 'cause they lease out the license. But it's like, it's crazy how you just have the exact same thing in two different countries and wholly different rooms. - Oh yeah, absolutely. - You can't do shit in the Japan one, which is fine 'cause I don't wanna go there anyway.

But it was fun, it was interesting. I had to go and I guess 'cause they scheduled me to go and meet all the characters and that was painful, that was tough. - What do you mean meet all of the characters? - Wait, you weren't hyped to see Mickey? - No, I didn't mean Dick, Dicky. - That's the Vietnamese version in that restaurant. - Hey, Dicky, come here. I'm a little bit of a sucker.

And then like fucking Snow White, fucking Elsa. Actually Iron Man was pretty cool. He's pretty hype. It's nice meeting Terry Stark. - Yeah. - No kidding. Doctor Strange. Just awkward 'cause I'm like, I don't give a fuck. I don't wanna pretend like I care that you're pretending that you're this character. - That's the British in you. - Yeah, I couldn't do it man. I was dying of cringe. - Yeah, it's just like one thing I've always realized is that, some people are very much into like the whole

- So into it. - And just getting into the role. And I'm like, is this a British thing or is this a me thing? And I feel like that's part of the reason why I have such a hard time, let's say, you know, getting into the idea of something like D&D, which to be fair, I very much did enjoy the whole aspect of D&D, but I feel like some people will like get into that role. - I like it now, it's grown on me. I had the same mindset initially. I was like, it's crazy.

that you're pretending to be a character. You're not in front of all your friends. But I'm like, no, it's really fun as fuck. - Yeah, yeah, yeah. But like, I could never do that in like Disneyland or something like that. - Hell no. Yeah, it was tough, but the rides were good and the food was okay. Better than the one in Japan, I thought. Genuinely, that's my hot take, I guess. Not that I care, 'cause I'm not a Disney. - What a hot take. - I'm not a Disney adult. I fucking hate those. - Disney adult. - People talk about it on YouTube all the time. Like, I can't watch this.

- Yeah, so that was interesting. That was fun. Got my steps in there. 22,000 steps in. - Well, this is why you're having steps in because you're going places. Of course you're gonna have steps in at an anime convention. That's the only time weebs actually bought places, man. - True, true. - If you're in Japan, you're not going anywhere. You're just in your room. - Yeah, and then we had, so then I was like, after that Disney thing, I was like literally like, it was like two days before the auction. So we get set up the day before in the hotel, everyone's coming in. And then it feels like really real and weird. Cause you're like, oh, there's,

like 40 people here all to help do my thing. And then it's weird. Cause then I guess like, this is my first time experiencing kind of being like,

I don't know how else to describe it. - The host? - Yeah, kind of being like, when there's a question about like creative, everyone's kind of waiting on you to give your input. And it's kind of like- - The director. - Well, yeah, because I'm like, I'm just a guy who does stuff in his room. And here are like 30 very professional people who've been working in this industry for a while and doing this kind of stuff. And they're waiting on my input and it feels very odd, but it's also very satisfying to work in that environment and kind of do more kind of stuff like that. So like the day before,

I was like, just shitting myself. So I was like, I don't know what's gonna happen. Like, but I probably should preface. There's a charity auction event that I did on Twitch in case no one knows. You all know what it is. - Yeah. - But I'm just saying, 'cause you didn't. The day before we had like rehearsals and that's where I was like, oh God, I was shitting myself. 'Cause like, you know how rehearsals are. If you've ever done them, it's like,

I guess you could give it your all, but it just doesn't feel the same. And you're trying to make sure that it feels as close to what's happening. - You're definitely operating at like 50%. - Yeah, you're kind of like, you're trying to perform and then everyone's kind of like, and you're not actually like trying to be funny or anything, but then it does feel weird when you're like trying to do the thing and everyone's just like,

"Okay, that looks good." But no one's interacting. And then we're running through the show and there's so much stuff to keep track of and it's all on the fly. And so I'm like, "Holy fuck, this is a lot of stuff "that I gotta try to stay on top of while I'm up there "for five hours." And so just go to bed, I'm shitting myself. But I slept pretty well. - Did you get a good night's sleep? - I did actually, yeah. I did get six hours of sleep.

Which I think is pretty good, 'cause I think for normally this kind of stuff, I'd get like two. If I get nervous for something, I'm like, like if I think the cycler thought I was more nervous, well, I don't know, sorry, I slept worse for. And then on the day it felt so real and I was shitting myself. So I was like, okay, I gotta perform, I gotta perform, I gotta perform. And then we had like, 'cause I had, I sold tickets, I sold 20 tickets for VIPs to buy for $2,000 each. - Yeah, shit. - Yeah, which I was like,

which I was kind of worried about. - Have a trip to Disneyland. - Yeah, literally average Disney adult spending. But the whole catch was is that like, okay, the whole benefit is that the $2,000 goes to charity. You can use that $2,000 to bid on things.

And then also you get to come and arrive earlier and you get to have like a VIP lunch with all the other people and me and we all had a lunch together for like two hours and we took photos and they all got photos. It was fun. Everyone was super nice and the food was great. Although I was too nervous to eat anything. 'Cause you know how it is when you get really nervous, you're like, I just, I can't. So I was just living on Gatorade and chocolate just to get ready. - The average streamer diet. - 'Cause I was just like, I just need energy and I don't need, I can't eat a meal.

- Do you know what I find perfect for those occasions? - What? - It's the Japanese energy gel packs. - Oh my God. - Every shoot, every shoot I bring one because I'm like, this is it. This is the time that they are useful. They are so fucking good. - Any other meal? - Dr. Jelly would be proud. - Any other shoot, I'm like bringing the three course meal. Let's not start till I've eaten a full buffet. Like let's chill out. Let's not, 'cause I'm not as invested, right? I mean, I do care, but obviously you've done it before. So you're like, I'm not nervous.

Like 95% of shoots that we do, I am not nervous about. Like, I'm just like, I know what to do and how to do it. But this one I was like shooting myself. - Yeah, yeah, yeah. - Were you nervous? Like, did you have that same feeling when we did the first "America Tour" show? - Yeah, yeah.

- Yeah, yeah. - Oh, okay, okay. - It's kind of like a bit- - I get that feeling. - Honestly, like a bit more 'cause it was like, at least on the show. - Yeah, that's- - Yeah, I have you guys there, right? And like on this one, it's like, oh, if I fuck up, it's all me. If something goes wrong, it's all on me. I'm the one up there. There's no one I can bounce off of. There's nothing I can do.

So it was just kind of like, all right, we're going into it. And like, I obviously I knew the structure of the show and I knew what beats to kind of hit, but still on the day there's gonna be so much happening and there's no way we could rehearse the whole thing. And like literally one hour before I really start fucking shitting myself. And then I see them on the starting soon screen and people are still asking me for stuff. And then everyone's turning up, like you're turning up, the other content creators are turning up and I'm like, is this person here? They gotta be here. 'Cause they're going up first. And then people were changing stuff. 'Cause you know what content creators are like.

Someone's like, "Hey, can I go on earlier?" And then someone's like, "Hey, I'm not turning up." And I'm like, "Okay, shit, fuck, fuck, "I'm trying to stay on top of all of this." But yeah, the show started. I was definitely nervous the first 10, 15 minutes and then kind of went into it and it went pretty well, I think. It went pretty well. - I think it went more than pretty well, to be honest. - Thank you, thank you, thank you. I appreciate it. I definitely got into the flow of it. - You just fucking killed it, Connor. I'm just gonna say it. I mean, I was there, so you know. - He can't say it himself, so he needs someone else to say it.

- As a person, when you do this stuff, you never wanna think like, if you think like I killed it or like I did the best I could have ever done, you're like, there's no room. - Then you can't improve. - Yeah, 'cause I like to think that, I think I did a good job and I think with what we had and how it all went, I think I did pretty damn good. - No, I think that's the best mindset to be in. - But I think there's definitely ways we can improve it. - I mean, I think from the audience perspective, 'cause I was in the audience, it was just a lot of, it was genuinely just a lot of fun.

seeing just a live auction. This is technically the first auction I've ever been to in my life. And it's the first auction that I've ever bid in as well. So I was like, before the show, like Sydney was like looking at like the list. We weren't planning on bidding at all. And then Sydney just saw like the Smosh comments. I just like, I saw her eyes like open up. Like I had like a fucking sweat like coming down. 'Cause I'm like, Sydney, you planning to bid on this? And she's like, yeah.

I am planning to build on this. And then I was like, okay, we're gonna try going for it. So I had an idea going in like of our general budget, which was going to be about like, I didn't know how much items were gonna be sold for. I was gonna think, I was thinking that they were gonna be sold for like a thousand, 2000. Did you have like a-

- I thought stuff would roughly go in the three to five range, which it kind of on average did. And then the big stuff went for quite a long time. - Yeah, I expected like the big stuff to go for quite a lot. So I was like, okay, let's take a mental budget. Sydney was just like so trigger happy on the day because it was like such a good vibe. She was like, should I bid on this? And I'm like, no, no.

- Yes, my friend was great. - Wait your time, wait your time. And then, so the Smosh comics come up and I would like, at first, like she starts bidding and we go up all the way to like 2000 or 2500 or something. And that's where she starts hesitating. And I'm like, all right, I gotta be a good husband here. I was like, Sydney, I will pay for half of it.

And so I take it and then we start getting into a bidding war with like Carl Jacobs, I think. - Carl Jacobs is behind you. - Yeah, Carl Jacobs is behind me and I like start bidding and then he starts bidding and I remember like halfway through, I like turn around and give him like the biggest evils. Like you motherfucker, this is mine. - Bombastic highlight. - This is ours actually, Carl, this is ours. And so I feel bad because after I look back, he just stops bidding.

- Oh no. - So we get up to like 4,000 and then we're up against like someone online. And here's the thing, I did not know if like the person online was just like kind of like trolling just to see how high the bids would get. So every time we increase the bid, like they would increase it by $50. And like the gears were just turning in my head and I was like,

I remember we got up to like $4,500. And I was like, Sydney, just go to 5,000. Just go to 5,000. Seal the deal. Yeah, let's stop this like fucking little, you know, fucking playing around. Let's go to 5,000. And we go up to 5,000. They go like 5,000, like...

- 100, 5,050. I was like, all right, nah, that's it. This is it. - So you didn't get it? - So we did not get it. - I really wanted you guys to get it 'cause I thought it'd be a really good moment. But you know, that's how it is. - Yeah, it's how it is. - And that was one of the things in the show that like I think was kind of tough to manage 'cause it's like, we need the online bids there 'cause they help raise more money. And it helps people at home maybe have fat stacks who can't be there donate.

We also had it so that people could enter their max bid. This is pretty common on auction websites. You can put your max bid. It's so it stops it from people like, you know, cause sometimes it buffers or sometimes your internet cuts out or sometimes the webpage isn't loaded. So that's there for that.

But I think next time, and this is one thing that I was talking to them about right after the show, I was like, hey, I think it's super anticlimactic when like someone in the audience be like, raises it by like a thousand and everyone goes like, whoa. And then online it's like 50 more. But obviously it's 'cause they're trying to not scam people. But also I think-

doing it next time so it's more incremental so that like when it gets to 5,000, it would automatically switch that it has to go up by 200 every time. - Yeah. Kind of like poker blinds, you know? - Yeah, exactly. Like a poker blind. Yeah, exactly. 'Cause that would make it at least so when these trickling online things come in, at least it's not, especially if we're like, 'cause the only time it was ever kind of like a bit hard to be the host was when there was two online bidders battling.

'Cause there was, and I was relying on the actors who are great. The actors were so fucking funny. - Oh, they were great. Some of them were having like a bit too much fun. They were like. - So we hired actors to represent the online bidders. - Okay, okay. - And there were these four actors and they were so fucking funny. And I later heard after the show, they were all like joking 'cause I think,

Point Crow and then the Stanzanet were sitting behind them and they were all joking being like, "Now my guy, he's fucking rich." They were like fucking, they were like bantering the whole time. And then whenever there was a bid, they would be like, "No, 5,000." It was so funny. It was such a good idea to have the- - It was great. - Yeah, 'cause that was the, originally I was like, "Oh, okay, yeah, I guess that could work." When they pitched the idea to me, I was like, "That's interesting." And I'm so glad that they convinced me to do it 'cause it was such a good idea. It was such a good fucking,

to make the online bids be interesting. But yeah, it went really well, I think. And we had that really hype moment with that guy where he, the last second he bid on it, but then it fucked everything up. So there was a moment in the show where this guy was bidding, it was like $14,000 for some exclusive German like print stuff for his card game called Grotto Beasts. And there's a huge German fan in the audience.

the way that it had to work is that the moment I would say, I think I would give the cue to the staff saying, all right, we're closing it out. And then I do three, two, one. But obviously the, none of the people in the audience understood what that, they don't know it's a cue, but I'm cuing to the staff that I'm close the online bids. So they'd closed the auction for this item

as I was doing the three, two, one. And then this guy in the audience goes, "All right, this." - 'Cause I thought it was the gavel. I thought it was a knocking on the gavel. - It's kind of tough 'cause I think they needed to close the online bids before I started the gavel because otherwise it could theoretically come in on three

and they wouldn't be able to relay that information to me. - All false and all fraud. - So they would close it. So it was kind of thing, but I'm sure we can think of a better way of doing it next time. So then he said like 15,000 and everyone lost their mind. It was great. But right before I hit it,

And then we were like, okay, you've got it. But then it turned out they closed it and actually let the guy before win. And then we had to, they asked the guy online, they were like, hey, do you want a bid of 15? He said, no. So the guy did get it in the end. It was super great. It was a good moment. I'm glad it panned out that way. It was super hype. It was a fun moment. That was a really fun moment. - That was a really good moment. - That was fucking great. And then Chris finally sold his big mouth.

- Which is so fucking funny 'cause Chris is like, I'm so happy to give this away. He's been finding, he's been looking for a reason to get rid of it. I can't wait to have him on, 'cause we'll have him on soon. And I can't wait to ask him about auctioned off our gift to him. - I actually wanted to win it so I could give it back

- I wanted the person to win it and give it back. 'Cause I thought it'd be so funny that Chris couldn't escape this. I guess sort of like $8,000. - Oh, nice. - People already wanted that. And yeah, it was great. It was just such a good show. And at the end of it, it was like, oh man, I was so emotional. It was so hard not to like tear up. 'Cause it was just like, you have all these pent up emotions and then you're just like trying not to cry, but I couldn't help myself. - Yeah.

There's so much work went into it. - Yeah, man. - And it went really well and I would like to do it again. I think it'd be fun to do it again. So we'll see if we can. - Yeah, for sure. - So yeah, I mean, that was just great. And that was like the, for me, that was like the main part of the trip. And I was like, oh shit, I gotta do AX right after this. Fuck. But AX was great as well. I mean, AX, but that was like definitely for me, that was what I was kind of like,

- Of course. - Fucking nervous about the whole time. - Yeah, I mean, you put so much work into this for months and months. - Super proud, man. - Yeah, super proud of you, man. - Thank you, thank you, thank you. It was a great time. - But AX. - And then AX was, I mean, I don't really have too much to say about AX. AX was just your normal kind of like AX experience, except this time we tried building a booth and seeing what that was like. - We had a giant booth, yeah. - Yeah, we had a massive booth and it was like, it was fated, right? 'Cause I looked at where our booth was

And I looked around and in one corner,

I see Fate/Go. And in the other corner, right opposite, I see Hoyoverse. I was like- - Standing with the giants. - God damn. - I was like, this is, my entire career has built up to this moment. I have built a booth standing next to Fate/Go and Hoyoverse. - My entire career is in one room. - So yeah, we were next to the Anaplax Fate/Go and the Hoyoverse booth. And honestly, like,

Booth experience was pretty fucking good. I think everyone enjoyed it. Everyone enjoyed, okay. First off, first thing I think we've realized, claw machines, fucking hell. Holy shit. Okay, so yeah, sort of preface, we're absolutely losing money on this booth.

This booth is crazy. So please buy the merch. - Imagine how I feel. I wasn't even there and I'm losing money. - So yeah, we had a bunch of cool attractions and I guess, 'cause when you do these kind of booths in this scale and there's companies coming in and helping, there's always gonna be so much miscommunication. And you try not to have that obviously, and you try and work towards it, but there was a whole lot of hiccups and stuff. And we rented these,

'cause I thought we should really have claw machines. - Yeah. - It's on brands. - Yeah, it's on brands and it's fun, it's interactive. People can go and do it and everyone knows claw machines are a great scam. So we would make money. However, we did not make any fucking money. So first of all- - Someone got scammed and it was us. - Yeah, we- So, okay, first of all, to rent, I think it's fine to say this, I don't fucking care, 'cause they totally scammed us. I mean, they didn't scam us, but so, right.

- Renting four claw machines is as expensive nearly as just buying four claw machines. It was $20,000 to rent four claw machines for four days. That is insane. - Yeah, that's fucked. - That means $5,000 to rent a claw machine for four days when you could just buy the same thing for like six. - That's more than a thousand dollars a day. - Great math there, Shane.

- But no, it is, yeah. It's fucked! - $12.50 a day. - So like, there's no shot we were making money on these claw machines, but we thought it would be fun. And then we were like, all right, well, let's make it so that you can win some exclusive stuff in it. And I guess there was just something that happened and like, I guess,

the price to play the claw machine did not equate to the prizes you would get. And by what I mean by that is that you could pay five bucks and get three tokens, which I think it was supposed to be one or something. It wasn't supposed to be that. So you get three turns and this claw,

was definitely OP. You would win every single time if you lined it up. It was impossible to lose. - You just pay to win. - Whereas normal claws would pick it up and drop. This was like the fucking grip of Zeus. It would not let go. And so you would peep,

there was dudes lining up buying like a shit ton of tokens and just farming, winning everything. And then I think they were just either giving it away or selling it. 'Cause the stuff you would get was worth more than what you paid. And even if we sold it at that price, we would lose money. - It's just free money, Gleeson. - That was kind of like a bit of a mess, but I think it was fun people to play with. - On top of like how much we paid to rent them, I think two of them just broke immediately. - Yeah, two of them just didn't work.

And it's like, what the fuck is the point of having this? - Fuck sake. - We'll have to rant about that, right? Okay, good, yeah. So lesson learned, don't rent claw machines. Just buy them. - Before someone says, "Oh, why did you put like claw machines or gadget machines?" So in order to get like, it's all to do with like the rules of an expo, like Anime Expo itself. So if you want,

and like a booth there, right? Depending on where you are, you need to meet certain requisites about how much space that booth takes and what's going to be in that booth. So to be in the entertainment hall, a certain percentage of your booth has to be interactive. - Yeah, so there's two halls. - Interactive.

LA convention center. One of them is kind of like a bigger entertainment hall and there's a lot more room and it's a bit nicer. And there's the exhibition hall where it's just people selling stuff, which is kind of like the main hall. Sorry, I'm burping. - That's why we not only had the claw machines there, but we also had the replica set up, like this set up, the cardboard cutouts, which were like popping off from what I saw online. - Yeah, the cardboard cutouts, I'm so glad 'cause I think they- - Like 90% of the photos I got sent to me were just people standing at the cardboard cutouts.

- I think they were told, I think they were like, "Hey, what do you think about carpet cutouts?" I remember being like, "We should make them fucked up." - Yeah. - That would be funny. And I'm so glad we did. It was a great idea. - Yeah, it was hilarious. - And yeah, so we had to put some stuff in it and then we had the giant Gacha machine, which we thought would be fun. But the Gacha machine was like, it was kind of like messed up. It just didn't work properly. But we did give away some of the set. So the Akira bike's gone.

- Black Goku is gone. - Black Goku is gone as well. - And I think the fate statue that was in the after dark is gone. We gave those away to people at AX. And so shout out to those people. I'm sure they were very happy with that purchase. - You got the SSR pools, man. What can I say? - You got a piece of Trash Taste lore. - Yeah. - Yeah. - Yeah. - I just learned that it was ungodly expensive to run a booth at AX. - It is ungodly expensive. - So please buy the merch again. Please go to TrashTaste.co in the description. Buy some merch 'cause it looks fire.

- Okay, like, you know, speaking for- - We'll be honest, yeah. - Yeah, speaking for real, you know, we kind of did this as kind of like an experiment just to see what it is like to run a booth at AX, specifically AX. I don't know about other conventions and like any advice to anyone or any company that is thinking about purchasing booth space in a convention as large as AX is that the real value you get is the value of like marketing yourself and having a presence

where at a space where everyone else is present. It was mostly surreal seeing myself and my, I guess like ourselves next to fucking some of the biggest- - Like Hoyoverse. - Like Hoyoverse and Studio Ghibli. - It's a dick measuring contest. That's like all this stuff is, is that all the companies go there. - That's all a booth is. - Yeah, because like the reality of like,

of like how a lot of these businesses function is that although they have, obviously they make most of their money from us, the consumers and whatnot, you know, a lot of these like big business deals are just at the whim of like a few businessmen who like can be, you don't easily like realize how impactful it can be to just see a gigantic like fate thing. And then the businessman must be thinking like,

- Fate's huge. Fate's crushing it. We should work with Fate. Because they, and maybe you wouldn't associate with the booth, but like just having that kind of presence and working with these brands or whatever, like being there. - They have a booth there, they must be legit. - It's such a weird business. - It is. - And I think for us, we were just like, we just wanted to do it.

- I think it'd be fun. - We're legit guys, please. - We were just like, fuck it. Like you said, we just want to be like, fuck it. What would having a booth at AX be like? It's the biggest anime con. I guess we're the biggest anime podcast, which is a title that always gets given to us, which is very undeserved. And so we just thought, fuck it. What would it be like? And it was crazy. It was a lot of fun. - I mean, this entire thing has just taught me because,

Even though we sit in our rooms and we make fucking anime videos and all that shit, it's kind of like just this entire journey itself has just taught me a lot about just marketing and what that means on just like the grander scale of things. Because if you say that you want to start a business and you don't know anything about marketing, you will 100% learn about marketing in some way, shape or form.

And I say this as an engineer that has not taken a single marketing course. I haven't signed up to fucking any dodgy online course about how to market yourself. 'Cause you learn so much on the job of just how important marketing is. - Well, none of us have ever really like studied marketing at school or anything. - Yeah. - I mean, we're in a fortunate position where we can be like, fuck it, let's lose money on the booth.

- Yeah, yeah, yeah. - Like let's just do it 'cause we wanna see how it goes. - That too. - And I think that it'd be a fun learning experience for us and that we can see if this is something we wanna pursue and do again. - I mean, for me, I'm always on just a journey of like trying to learn as much as I can. You know, you learn, there are some things you experience that you cannot immediately quantify.

But just, I think having that experience of just running a booth and just what it's like behind the scenes, we've gained like experience and know how that's- - Well, there's only so much you can learn from like a book.

or like watching YouTube videos. You have to like actually put yourself into it to be like, oh, so this is how it actually is. And that's what the Trash Taste booth for us was. - Especially me. I am such an awful learner when it comes to just like reading shit. I am that motherfucker who plays a video game and I go through the tutorial and I read what like the tutorial is trying to tell me. And I'm like, this means nothing.

I'm like, what the fuck are the game mechanics? And then I actually like play the game mechanics. I'm like, oh, I get it. It like clicks in and internalize itself for me. - I feel like you're not the minority in that.

- I feel like a lot of people like that. - I think most people like to try to learn. - Yeah, trial and error, yeah. - A lot of people do this whole like, I'm a practical learner. It's all bullshit. Everyone's a fucking practical learner. Everyone's gonna learn better if you let them do it. Of course you will. What are you fucking, so stupid. So yeah, obviously I think a lot of people

some people can absorb information better, but I think everyone learns the best when you have hands on experience. - Absolutely. - Yeah, I think that's, you know, I think everyone can agree to that. - Well, that's why like every job application you go to, they ask for how much experience you've had, not how many books you've read. - Yeah. - Also, I feel like a lot of people, 'cause I am in,

some ways in this camp where a lot of people have this idea of like something they wanna do. And then they spend 10,000 hours of research on how to do it correctly. - Or they just don't do it. - And then they just don't do it. Because we try to do as much research as we can doing like new stuff or new things on how to do correctly. Something is gonna go wrong. Our tour was not perfect. There were...

There are, for example, our tour, we had an idea that we want to do a tour, a live show. It did not go perfectly. Some things went wrong with the logistics of some shows and everything, but it's all like a learning experience. - That was expected as well. - Yeah, yeah, yeah. And you got to give yourself credit if you have any ideas that you want to do to fuck up a bit, to fail a bit. You gotta give yourself a little bit of leeway. And I feel like more people should think,

- You know, if someone's doing something new, I feel like there should be a bit of leeway given as well.

obviously not everything's gonna go perfect. They're gonna try the best they can, but as long as they tried the best they can and it's not a fucking massive fuck up to like a gargantuan scale, then you know. - Yeah, it's not about taking risks. It's about taking intelligent risks. It's about like, okay, you can use all of this like knowledge you've gained from like reading books, you know, not actually physically doing something. And then from there you can be like, all right,

I'm gonna try and do this thing now with the knowledge that I have. It might not be the most perfect knowledge that I have. It might not be the most like logistical knowledge that I have, but,

I have enough knowledge in me that I know that taking this particular risk will probably work out better for me than taking this ridiculous risk. - Yeah, yeah. - And it's all about that. - Yeah, and I also don't want it to sound like, oh, you gotta buy our merch, like cover up our fuck or whatever. - No, you do, you do. - Connor's saying that. I'm saying this is generally some, like one of my favorite merch shops that we've done. - I actually love this merch so much. - Of course there's a denim jacket, so of course it was gonna be one of my favorites.

But I genuinely, I genuinely like love what we did and yeah, I'm looking forward to wearing it in the future. - Yeah, AX is always just so fucking chaotic as well for us. 'Cause obviously like we can't experience it in like a normal way anymore, which is kind of like, it sucks. But also, I mean, AX is as a con is just, I mean. - A mess. - I mean, it's like from a viewer perspective, a lot of the time I feel like it's,

you go there to hang out with your friends and not for like what there is to actually do there. - Yeah. - At least that's how I always did it before at least. And now I just, what we do is we just promote stuff. My Twitter feed that weekend was just one ad.

I got to the point where like I was, they would just send me an ad and normally like when we get sent an ad, like a tweet that we have to promote, they'll be like, "Hey, can you make it seem more natural?" I was like, "Nope, I'm just gonna tweet whatever you give me." 'Cause I was like, I am abandoning all hopes of trying to make this look like I wrote this this weekend. And there was like, there's a few of them where people were like, "Hey, this looks like you didn't write it."

- You would be correct. - 'Cause a lot of the times the booths are like, "Hey, come to our booth and appear here and whatnot." I won't name which one it is 'cause I don't wanna get anyone in trouble or me in trouble. We were at one of the booths doing a promotional thing and it was kind of chaotic and stuff wasn't going well, which is all of them. And this guy walks in, this guy who walks into the booth, I'm chilling on the back, he's like,

"Who's in charge here?" And I was like, "I don't know. I'm just chilling." And he's like, "Is it that woman over there?" I was like, "Yeah, that's my boss." And he goes, he just throws his business card at me. He's like, "I'll deal with this." And I was like, "What the fuck? Who are you?" Gives me a card, it's like CEO of marketing. I was like, "Who the fuck is, what an asshole." Just comes in, like gives us like this, gives me this card, like he's looking this way. He's like, "I'll handle this, here's my card."

Like a fucking Johnny Bravo-esque character. And I was like, this guy must think he's such hot shit. And I'm like, I don't give a fuck. I'm here to just chill. - Jesus Christ. - Yeah, I mean, most of our time was just spent this time. We didn't, did you have time to walk the convention at all? - A little bit. Very, very, very little amount. - Yeah, most of my time was spent at the booth working behind it or just like chilling out behind it or just like different booth appearances. There was this one moment that was funny when like the booth was being built

And it was like day zero or something. And we were like, I was sitting down, my editor, Alan, who I brought with me, like to help like build the set, everything he was helping out as well. And we were like sitting down having our first like meeting for the day.

So it was like me, Meilyne and some other Geeks Plus members. And then some of the staff members come up to our booth and they go up to our stand ins and they're like, "Oh my God, the boys are here, I don't believe it." And I'm sitting right next to it and they just walk past me and go to the stand out. - That would happen a lot actually. I'd be like, "Oh, hi guys." And they're taking a picture of the stand out. I'm like, "Hi."

- And then it was literally like the fucking meme where you're just standing in the corner and like, they don't know I'm the real God right here.

- Yeah, they just like walk straight past me and they're like, "I don't wanna acknowledge you." - One of the days you should have tested that out by like replacing your cardboard cutout and just stand in its place to see if like anyone would notice. It's like, "Which one's the real one?" - The next time we'll just get like wax statues of ourselves. - Oh my God. - Like Madame Tussauds. - Yeah, like Madame Tussauds statues.

- Jesus. - That'd be hilarious. - Yeah, but I mean, you know, AX was a lot of fun, I guess. - I'll try and be there next time. Joey, we were missing the boy, man. - I feel bad 'cause it's such a big con and obviously, woe is us being too popular. People asking for pictures and we just can't take pictures 'cause if we do, it just causes like a mess and people will start lining up and grouping.

And it's like, I feel sad 'cause I'm like, man, I wanna take pictures with everyone, but obviously I fucking can't. But I guess also people sometimes just ask for pictures and they have no idea who you are 'cause they just see that everyone else has pictures. I hate that so much. - No, I love that shit. - No, 'cause you're like, one time on stream at X, like last time, I was like, oh, he's like, I'm a big fan. I'm like, oh, what's your favorite video? He's like, oh, when you spent 24 hours in a manga cafe. I was like, that's, I got this on camera. I was like, that's Joey.

- I get confusing me and God. I don't know how they confuse you and I. We look nothing alike. It's just a different ethnicity. - 'Cause I wish there was like a, yeah, I know that some people will use codes and they're like, they say a code word and it's like, oh, okay, okay, you're cool. But yeah, I just, yeah, it's kind of, yeah, it's whatever. But we did a panel that didn't get broadcast. We did the panel for Katakawa where we presented all the anime trailers.

And that was fun. But that was like very, I mean, that was kind of scary 'cause we're also doing it for all of these anime companies and they're trusting us to just like- - Have an appeal. - Yeah, and like, you know, maybe there's a show that is popular and people get super excited for, and there's some shows people don't know, or maybe there's shows that aren't as popular and sometimes you're like, okay, well you wanna make sure that there's an equal level of hype for all of them. - Yeah, yeah. It was great seeing Connor have to pretend to care about Isekai for a while.

- An hour and a half. - I was like, this is easy for me. - I liked it, I liked it because you know, we all have our own personal- - Shout out to sponsors for watching. - Hopefully they don't watch this. We have our own personal preference and I'm obviously not known for likening Sakai. I have very strong words. And then I'd read the thing and I, you know, 'cause Garnt had,

obviously 'cause Garnt knows the anime a lot better than me. I was kind of reading out and doing all the transitional stuff. And I was like, all right, so next up we have an isekai. And I was like, hey, first time nice. And it's like fourth one and I'm like, all right, another isekai. Garnt gonna tell me about what this one is. - And I'm gonna be like, let me tell you how this isekai stands out from the rest of the isekai.

I mean, I do that 'cause I fucking love it anyway. - This is cool though. - We got to premiere an episode of "My Happy Marriage." Which is kind of sick actually being like, "Hey guys, we've got a fucking, got an episode of an animated show. You a premiere?" I was like, "That's so cool." - Oh my God. Actually, it was funny because I really like, when we were on stage, I would like really put Megan on the spot. 'Cause there were like some shows like "Happy Sugar Life" and especially like "My Happy Marriage."

- It's like about a beautiful man. - There's like a beautiful Ikemen kind of man. - I actually thought my happy marriage was happy sugar life. I was like, wait, doesn't that already come out? - Yeah, with like, you know, a bit of a dominant energy kind of like. - Oh, okay. - Kind of like that. - Very brooding. - Yeah, very brooding. - Everything's very minimal world, it's very dumb.

- And I'm like, this is like, how can I describe this man? This is the kind of anime character that gets Meilyne's hands to sweat. The first thing that Meilyne says to me when I come off stage is she was like, "You're right, my hands were actually sweating "during that trailer." - Oh my God.

- I don't wanna like, so there was the premiere of the first episode of "Happy Sugar Life." - No, no, "My Happy Marriage." - Oh, sorry, Ian. - "My Happy Marriage." - He's like, he's like hyped to my brain. - It's a show on Netflix, come on. - Yeah, it's a show on Netflix. Honestly, like generally speaking, sponsorship and everything fucking is-

- We don't have to say anything nice about it. On the panel, we just had to present it. - Yeah, we had to premiere it. As an anime fan, generally, I think one of the best new shows there in this season is by Kinema Citrus and everything like that. - Dude, that was tough. I was reading some of these studio names and I was like, fuck, I hope I said that right. 'Cause we didn't get to see anything about this panel until like 20 minutes before. - Yeah, you were just giving it to me. - I was like, and this one's by Kinema Citrus.

- Kinema citrus. I hope I said that right. And some of them were tough though as well. - Yeah, but so the main character is kind of like this very, you know, quiet, reserved, typical like Japanese girl. And the whole premise of the show is that it's kind of like she has someone she's in love with, but

she has a bully, right? And this bully is like a sassy blonde anime character. - Okay. - And it's like, in my mind I was like, everyone in the audience is going to be like, "Oh, it's just like Sydney." Like, you know, 'cause that's what happens in like every one of my streams. Every time there's a blonde anime character, it's Sydney. - 'Cause everybody knows Sydney's the only blonde woman alive.

- Exactly, exactly. So the blonde character is like kind of like a bully to this like main girl.

And so the main girl has a guy that she's in love with. I'm only spoiling episode one, by the way. The main girl only has like, has a guy that she's in love with. And of course, you know, spice it up. It turns out that the guy is going to get married to her bully. - Okay. - And so we find, so I'm watching this backstage with Sydney.

And then, so we find out some of the girls backstory and it's like a sad, like really sad backstory. Like her mother's dead. And when the scene of like her backstory comes up, it's meant to be this really like sad scene that just shows her mother dying. That just shows her mother is dead. Sydney just burst out laughing.

And I'm like, "God fucking dammit, Sydney." You do not have to be like, she was like, I was like, "Oh, the fucking comments are right." Like every blonde anime character that's sassy and bullies is just Sydney because she, the mother is dying and Sydney just like burst out laughing. And like one of our staff members were just, it was just literally like the Robert De Niro like moment in the Joker is like really?

her mother's dead and you're laughing. - Meanwhile I was eating chicken tenders. - Meanwhile Connor was eating chicken tenders behind the scenes. But honestly, yeah, it was a great experience and it was honestly great seeing like just an anime premiere with a lot of other people.

- It was one of the most hyper moments was actually when we showed the Re:Zero trailer. - Oh my God, everyone's like screaming nonstop. It was pretty cool. - Yeah, and I was like, wait a minute, this could actually be pretty hype. Maybe it's pretty hype watching anime with like other people and just see other people's reaction, right? - Right. - It is hype.

- It is. - I would love to see more of it. - Watching just anime with a crowd, that'd be great. - Yeah. - But there was this one moment where like there's a character with big boobs and everyone just started cheering. I was like, you fucking guys, what's wrong with you? What's wrong with you guys?

- Have we not seen enough? - Everyone started cheering and I was just like, 'cause at the point I was like- - John didn't know why they were cheering. - I was like looking at the notes, I was like, is there like something that just got announced or something? 'Cause I was like trying to make sure that the next segment was gonna go smoothly. So I was like, is there a big name attached to this? 'Cause everyone just started cheering. And then I looked behind me and then I saw the post of like a girl with massive tits and I was like,

- Oh, okay. Okay, now I get it. - I was the one operating the clicker. So I knew why they were cheering 'cause I knew the slide that it went to. And then I was like, I was hoping that it would just kind of, we just go, we can ignore it. And then of course it came back up and they started cheering again. And I was like, God damn it. This is why we can't, this is why no one thinks that we're good members of society.

- Yeah, and that was fun. And then we had that, so that was the whole thing. And I did my panel with Mouse as well. That was streamed. Dude, the line was fucked for that. - Yeah? - Yeah, the line went like all the way into the hotel to the fourth floor, went out to the hotel, all the way back to the entrance, back out. Do you know where the, you know the JW Marriott Hotel?

So that, and then there's that Starbucks and there's a Microsoft arena. The line came all the way out, all the way around the Microsoft arena to the start of it. And just for this panel with me and my- - How many people fit in? - No, dude, by the time they were all lining up, it was already full. So I guess people didn't know that. So it was like a 2,000, 2,000 room. - Yeah, it was like 2,000. - Yeah. - Yeah. 'Cause I think main stage,

Main events was reserved for like industry stuff. - Yeah, yeah. - Or whatever it was. So they were like, no, no main events. And that was crazy. That was a lot of fun. It's always weird having to interact with the screen and the delay and stuff, but it was a lot of fun. And they got streamed so you can go and check it out. There's clips online as well.

- Yeah, I mean, right now it just seems like Anime Expo has just basically just become the E3 of anime. E3 was like still a thing because every time I go there, like so many exciting anime announcements get like released during like AX. It's actually insane. Yeah, it's actually insane. Like as an anime fan, I love AX just because I know this is where all like the hottest news is going on like,

about some exciting projects we could go like, you know, like out of fucking nowhere, DC is collaborating with Studio Wit on a Suicide Squad Isekai. And I'm like, where the fuck did this come from? - I caught this on the podcast. I said, they're just gonna Isekai shit that we've had before.

I literally said, play the clip. There's a short, someone found it and they, 'cause I didn't even know I said this. Someone sent it to me and be like, you called it. I said that they're just gonna isekai shows that already existed. And they're fucking doing it. I said they would do this. - I think I saw that announcement on Twitter, like, or rumors about it a few weeks ago, but I was like, nah, that can't be real, right? That sounds ridiculous. - First of all, who cares? 'Cause Black Butler's coming back.

- That's all that matters. - Oh yeah. - Black Butler's, you don't sound as excited as I am. - I mean, it's Black Butler. - Did you see they made him in like a soft boy now? - Yeah. - What the fuck? - That's why I'm not excited. - Why is he like a soft boy? He looks like he spends too much time on VR chat now. - No, no, no, I don't care about Black Butler. I'm sleeping with that because panty and stocking is coming. - That is the biggest time. - Baby. - That's the biggest time. - Hell yes. - I feel like Trigger are like very, very good when it's like,

- We can grow boobs. - You know what? I'm not gonna take the credit for it, but when I interviewed the co-founder of Trigger, I did ask for a season two of "Penny and Stocky." - You guys, they're at the board meeting. - Don't credit me, but I was the first one to ask. - They're like, "We can't do it, guys. It doesn't make any sense." - The anime man said he wanted season two. - He said he wanted it!

- I wanted it. - Don't show my shorts, you're gonna blow this. - I wanted it and he was like, "We'll think about it." And then he delivered, so thank you very much. - Yeah, I'm just fucked for that. - Thank you so much, Joey, for asking for season two of "Panning and Stocking." You are clearly, it's all you. - You did us good. - It's all you. - Adam is insane.

- Thank you, Joey. - Joey, the anime man has saved anime, everyone. Well, I needed them to bring back the classics and they did, so yeah. - I asked them to do "One Punch Man" now, please. Can you ask them? - I asked them, but I asked them in English. - Hold up, I got the map of CEO on like right now. Yo, where's "One Punch Man" coming up? - I know "Chainsaw Man" didn't do so well, but I-

- I'll tell you what, I'll give you a suggestion, bring One Punch Man back. And it'll be like, I'll think about it. - One thing I have started to notice now that, you know, every time we go to a different country and we've hung out with like other content creators is that Sunday Nose is a pattern where every time they want to take us out to dinner, to chill out or, you know, have like a nice dinner,

It's always a fucking Japanese place. How the fuck does this happen every single time? - Well, I think it's a lot of people in LA, what I realized, they just eat Asian food the most in general. And then like, you want Korean? Korean, yes. - Yeah, it's just like, when we travel abroad, I'm used to, I wanna have like, give me like the fattest American steak or something. And everyone's like, so I booked out this Japanese place.

It's a really trendy, 'cause I've realized now. - You guys live in Japan, you like Japanese food. - Yeah, 'cause I've realized now, all the trendy places, especially like all the trendy places in LA and California and now like, I guess, Australia, all of the trendiest places are like Japanese places. - Yeah, like Chad took us to that fucking Japanese restaurant. - Exactly. - And I'm just like, "Chad, you knew, you knew." Why? - Yeah, that was okay as well. I mean, it's pretty good, but it was- - It was good, it was good. I mean, I'm not complaining. It's just, I feel like this is,

I feel like this is the sacrifice we have made for living in Japan, which is like all the food here is like Japanese food is just great. And then you go back and then everyone wants to eat at like trendy Japanese restaurants. I don't know why it's like, especially Japanese cuisine that has been propped up in such a way where it's become kind of like

- A very like high class, not really high class, very bougie kind of like place. - Well, because it's like, I think the whole difference between the Japanese food culture and like the Western food culture is just so different, right? Like not only with like the actual items of the foods, but also just like the way it's presented and like how courses work and shit like that. Like, especially 'cause like Japan is very much a culture where it's like, it's not just like,

here's one big main dish and that's your food. It's more like lots of small little dishes. So I think the Western idea of it being like, well, if there's multiple items that are coming out, it's like a course meal. So that's fancy. When in reality, it's like you can achieve that same thing at an izakaya, but it's not fancy at all, right? - Yeah, I didn't need a lot of the food that I normally look forward to. Like I didn't need any wings.

I don't think I had any Mexican food. - What? - Yeah, I don't think I had any Mexican food. - That's not like you. - Yeah, I normally really look forward to that. I had it in and out, but it was one of the worst ones I ever had. Dude, the fries were even worse than all. I know the worst part, but it was like the worst. - Okay, I did have one thing I always, like the one thing I always look for when I come to LA, pretty much the only thing I look forward to.

- Korean barbecue. - Yes. Me and Korean barbecue is like, especially, okay. I don't know if this is like blasphemous to say,

But like, I think the Korean barbecue in LA is better than any of the Korean barbecues you can get here in Japan. And I don't know why. - Yeah, way better. - Well that's because Japan puts more effort into yakiniku than they do in Korean barbecue. - Yeah, and also like, dude. - Which is different. - I feel like some, America, like credit to them, the Korean barbecue all you can eat is so fucking good. - Yeah. - Yeah. - Fucking slaps. - They're actually so good. - Yeah, hell yeah. - I mean, I don't have too much of like a,

I don't have too much of a, was it sample size? Because I've only been to Korea like once for a weekend, but you know, I fucking ate as much Korean barbecue as I could fit in that time. It was basically Korean barbecue for dinner for like every day.

And the Korean barbecue I had on that one trip wasn't like, it was good. It was fucking fantastic. - I feel the Korean barbecue in Korea is kind of like halfway between Japanese yakiniku and the American Korean barbecue where it's like, it's still got like the essence of the Americanized Korean barbecue where it's just like, just bring out a shitload of meat and it's all fucking good. But there's also like a delicacy to it that's very much synonymous with Japanese yakiniku. - Yeah, yeah, yeah. - So it's interesting.

I would say I actually, from what I've tried so far, unless anyone has any recommendations 'cause we're going to Korea, I'm going to Korea like pretty soon. I've not found a Korean barbecue

that has matched some of my favorite ones in LA. - Yeah, they're good though. - There's just something about the American culture of just indulgence and just being like, just have as much as you want. Order as much as you want. - First of all, if I pay 50 bucks in America for all you can eat, for barbecue,

and I pay 50 bucks for all you can eat in Japan, what I'm getting is two so different qualities. 50 bucks all you can eat in Japan, I'm scared. I'm like, where did they get this meat from? It certainly wasn't Japan. 'Cause Japan also has a big import culture with beef and chicken and whatnot. They import a lot of it. Obviously we hear about Wagyu all the time,

Wagyu is the shit that they grow here. - Yeah, also that's like a small percentage. - Yeah, yeah. And you know, there's a lot of, so basically like a lot of the meat you get, especially when you go to yak and yuk places, especially if it's a cheap place where you can eat, you're often getting a lot of imported meat and it's like, it's fine, it's fine. But I feel like in America, when you get the $50 all you can eat thing and they're like, they're seasoned so well as well. 'Cause in Japan, they don't season shit and it's fine. But sometimes I want the pork belly that has been marinated all day in the spicy sauce, that shit's fire.

- I get Japanese cuisine, especially Japanese cuisine where it's just like, it's all about the natural flavor. - Yeah, you'd think they'd like it. They've been taken over by the British with how little seasoning they use sometimes and stuff. It's crazy. - Yeah, and it's just like this cow has been listening to Mozart every day or some shit like that. He gets massages. - Had a butt massage every day. - Yeah, butt massage. - It's like the olive wagyu where they feed only olives to the cow. It's like, how about we just don't?

- And I'm like, motherfucker, I'm tired. Give me all of the spice. Give me as much spices as you can on one piece of meat and call it a day. And it's gonna taste fucking amazing. - True. - And like, yeah, American cuisine, I feel like has that like right balance of being like, we're gonna cut a little bit of everything. We're not gonna do everything one's way. But what we can guarantee is you can eat a shit ton of this shit. - I feel great. - It's got like the addictiveness of fast food.

- Yeah. - Even though it's not fast food. - Yeah, yeah, yeah. - And I don't know how they achieve that. - Yeah. - But it works. - Also, 'cause I was talking to Emily about this and she was like, 'cause I was saying like, I feel like Korean food, not just Korean barbecue, but just Korean food in general is, I've had better Korean food in the US and England than I have found here in Japan. And I'm like, why is that? And I'm like,

- We were having like this really long conversation of just like, is there like, is it 'cause of the rivalry here? Because she was saying that when she's in Korea, it's hard to find good Japanese food. So you think that by them being neighbors, you could easily find like good Korean restaurants in Japan and good Japanese restaurants in Korea. But she was saying, yeah, it's actually like really hard to find good Japanese restaurants in Korea because,

- 'Cause of the rivalry probably. - Maybe it's the rivalry. Maybe people would just want to more focus on their own cuisine rather than- - Or maybe it's this idea of because they're so close by, like it's literally what a two hour flight from Tokyo to Seoul. Like because it's so close by, maybe there's no need

for there to be a good counterpart in each country. Because it's like, well, if you want the counterpart, just fly two hours and you can get it. - I wonder if this is a thing in like European countries as well, because I don't know, because I feel like obviously in England, we have a lot of other European restaurants because British cuisine sucks. So we have to borrow other cuisines.

I'm like, can you find like Spanish food, good Spanish food in France or do people just go to- - Yeah, you definitely can. - Right, right. - I think so. - But then again, I'm not going to France to eat Spanish food. - That's true, that's true. - So there's also that. I don't think there'll be anyone who's like in Germany and being like, "Oh yeah, so I really want Italian food right now. So fuck the German food." - Bro, I don't care where you are in the world, I always want Italian food.

- I've always got time for Italian food baby. - That's the one exception where it's like, no matter which country you're in, there's always at least one good Italian restaurant. - I'm fucking mad, man. They got such good food. - They did it, man. They achieved peak. I don't know how you guys did it. - I will admit, I think I, 'cause even when I was, when we were in,

when we were in LA, we'd try and do Korean barbecue, but a lot of the time I would just get like bibimbap. I love bibimbap, it's so good. - Yeah, bibimbap. - I swear to God, I've never had a good one here. I don't know why. It just doesn't go as hard. - I've had okay ones. - Yeah, there's some good ones, but definitely the ones in Korea are better. - Yeah, in LA they're great as well. I feel like my problem with the bibimbap here as well is they're tiny.

The bibimbap's in LA. I don't know if they're big in Korea, but they're fucking big bowls. - They're pretty big in Korea. - Yeah, more surface area for the rice to get fucked on. I love it. Dude, it's so good. And I had one here and I paid like 30 bucks for it. It was tiny. And I was like, "This sucks. Get me out of here." - Yeah. - Yeah, I don't know.

- Yeah, I think, but the Korean fried chicken is pretty good. I do like that. I've got a spot here I love in Shin-Okubo. It's so fucking good. - Well Shin-Okubo is basically Korea. - It's so dude. - It's basically Korea. - I took Pete there on stream. It's like this place in Shin-Okubo, it's dude, the fried chicken they do is not,

- Oh, I think I know which one you're talking about. - I've never been there. I think Naby took me there originally. - Is that the one on like the third floor? - Yes, it's all wooden chairs. Bro, it's insane. - That place is insane. - Dude, I've never had fried chicken that good in my life. All other fried chicken pales in comparison. - That's easily the best fried chicken I've had in Japan. - The best fried chicken I've ever had in my life is in Korea actually. - Yeah, I gotta go. - I thought that was peak and then I went to a Korean fried chicken place in Seoul and I was like,

just blows everything up. - Okay, all right, all right. We'll see about that. - They know how to do it. - We will see about that. Yeah, me and Connor are planning to go to Worlds this year in Korea, so we'll just- - Oh, nice. - Hopefully, yeah. - Yeah, yeah. - We gotta get tickets still, I don't even know. - Well, the tickets aren't even open yet. - So you're gonna be in an internet cafe for four days or? - No, we're gonna watch other people be in an internet cafe. - Yeah, we're gonna watch other people. - Okay, okay. - Yeah, I'd like to go and watch it. We've still gotta, hopefully we can get that all sorted. - Yeah, yeah. - It'll be fun.

- Yeah, is there anything else topical we can talk about? - Yeah, I mean, there's a lot of things that are like- - Just while we're here. - Now while we're here, now we have the opportunity. So do you think Threads is gonna be the Twitter killer? - Oh my God, okay. No, we can't talk about this. - Why can't we talk about this? - It's boring. - Is it boring? - Yeah, it's not gonna, but Twitter's a mess and it's whatever. And I think we're on it. I don't know. - I do love all of the- - Have you guys started a Threads yet? - I have. - I have, yeah. I do love all of the little jabs that Elon is making.

to Mark Zuckerberg on Twitter. It's like watching two children fighting. - Twitter's a mess. Twitter actually sucks to use. Twitter's just not good. - I've been using it way less the last couple of years. - Yeah, yeah, yeah. It's such a weird feeling because I started my threads like literally today. 'Cause for some reason I couldn't log in when I was in America. And then it was just like logging on and just seeing people post and I'm like, oh my God.

- This doesn't feel like a cesspool. - Yeah. - I feel like people- - It's like the old school Twitter days. - Yeah, this is what I felt when I started my Twitter. And it kind of made me realize that I'm fine throwing away all of the followers that I've built up over the years because it's kind of like, I've been on Twitter since, when did you guys start your Twitter? I think I started mine like 2011 or something like that. - I think mine was 2014. - Yeah. - Something like that.

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- 2009. - Yeah. - 2009. - 2009. - Wait, you had one before YouTube? - Yeah, I had one before YouTube. - Oh, I made one because everyone was like, you need a Twitter if you're a YouTuber. So I was like, oh, okay. I never even touched this one. - Yeah, but my name was like, 'cause I was obsessed with Hannah Montana at that time and I only made it to follow- - To follow Miley Cyrus. - To follow like, I wanted to know what the cast was up to, you know? So they were cool. Then I realized that fucking, it's boring as shit. And so I didn't do anything with it. But I've had it since 2009 'cause I actually got locked out of my Twitter account

I don't know if you remember, do you remember this? My Twitter account, I couldn't access it for like four or five days. - Yeah. - Because when I made it, I obviously lied about my date of birth 'cause I was actually like, I was like 11 when I made Twitter. When I made Twitter, it was still like,

Well, I mean, that's not really old. It's still the favorites. It wasn't hot. It was like star. Yeah. And I, yeah, so I made it literally, I don't know when, when did it come out? What was the year it came out? Can you check? Yes. So 2009, I think I was very, very, very in the start of it. Okay. So like three years in. Yeah. And I think this is still even on my space for the thing. So I'm like, but yeah, so yeah,

How old was I in 2009? 14 years ago. So I was 12. 12 when I made it. Right.

which is crazy to think, right? I made it and then my date of birth, I obviously lied. 'Cause I just, you know, when you're 12, you just get in the habit of lying on these websites. - Well, of course. - 'Cause you have to. - You can't go into any website and not be like, "Hey." - How else are you supposed to see the 18 plus content? - Yeah, exactly. - You just lie. So I was just so in tune with lying and I still kind of do it sometimes. I'm like, "Fuck it, I'm gonna tell my real one." I'm 50. - Yeah. - Whatever. So,

I made it when I was 12 and then I had the genius idea like four years ago, it was before I moved to Japan. It was like a year before I moved to Japan, so four years ago, no five years ago now I guess. Five years ago, I had this genius idea where I was like, you know what? It's time to set the record straight. Let's put my real date of birthday. 'Cause it was like March 5th or something is my birthday on Twitter and people would be like, "Oh, it's happy birthday." No, it's not my birthday. - Yeah, it's a fake birthday.

I changed it to my real birthday, immediately got locked out of my Twitter. - What? - Couldn't use it because Twitter has a policy where they block accounts, didn't know this, that even if you're 18 or 19 now or ever, they will still shut your account down because it was made under the-

because it was made when it wasn't allowed. So you just like self-report and tell Twitter that you fucked up. And so I was like, fuck. And I Googled and this happened to a bunch of people. And it's pretty much impossible to get your account back. But at this point I had like a hundred K followers. I was like, holy shit, I'd spent years building this up. What the fuck? And I had the @cdogva and everything. I was like, I need this back. And so I submit, there was a few people online who had some luck.

And because Twitter support was and still is absolutely fucking useless and garbage. It's all automated. You could send in an ID

but it couldn't be, it was so busted that it couldn't be a non-American ID. Otherwise the system they had wouldn't recognize it. So I had to ask someone. So I asked my editor at the time, I was like, "Hey, can I just have your ID to put in?" And so now Twitter just thinks I'm that age, but I had to send because apparently someone was saying, "The Twitter thing is so bad,

It's always been bad that someone could submit one at this time and two weeks later someone could submit it and the person who did it two weeks later could get seen first for no fucking apparent reason. So I made like, I did like 50 email accounts and submitted all the same shit. And it was something like the 40th one was the one that got like approved and then my account got changed to this American ID. So Twitter thinks I'm like 30 something. Is it crazy?

- I'm sure a lot of people would believe you if you actually said that. - So yeah, so if Twitter asks, it's such a dumb fucking rule. What a dumb rule to block a, I think it was something to do with one of the government laws or something. I don't know what it was. It was fucking stupid either way. - Well, that's what you get for lying. - Either way. - I'm just waiting for- - Don't give a fuck about threads. I'm on it. I'm vibing with it right now, but I don't expect it to be a big thing. - Well, the problem is- - Why don't you expect it to be a big thing?

well, I don't know. Cause right now it's, it's like, Elon's going to bring down the band hammer. Uh,

That's what people are thinking is gonna happen. It's like, oh, lawsuit incoming. - I think that Instagram serves a really good purpose and reaches an audience that Twitter definitely doesn't. But I think people who want threads would just still use Twitter in a way. And I don't think the, at least right now it's not great, but I think maybe it will in future, but I don't know. - I think right now there's like zero algorithm on threads right now where like,

I remember yesterday I was like scrolling through it and I'm just like, I don't follow any of these people. Why are they showing up? - Yeah, I think like whether it like becomes a thing or not really much depends on will people continue using Twitter? Because I,

want to post on Twitter as much as I can because it's good for my like online fucking brand and all this shit because you know we're like fucking influencers and all that shit but like I just don't

I just find myself not wanting to, not because it's a conscious choice, just because I just don't find it fun. - Twitter is also like only quote retreats right now. Have you noticed that? - Yeah, yeah, yeah. - It's literally just all you do on Twitter now is that it's just these like five accounts and they're in everyone's feed and all they do is scour the web for fucking tiny ass posts so they can dunk on someone.

And that's literally the entire website and it's so fucking boring and it sucks to watch. - It's just tiring. It was fun like the first few times and then you just see like a random person catching strays and you just like- - Like everyone's trying to like ratio each other and quote retweet and it's like, this fucking sucks. - Yeah, yeah, exactly. So it's just nice. - It's so negative. - Yeah, it's so negative. So it's just nice going on like,

and just seeing people trying to start like a new, it's like a new exciting thing. - The moment I saw like a retweet or I guess a rethread, I don't know what the fucking word for it is, but like just seeing like an actual positive rethread, I was like, oh my God,

I miss this. - I know, same here, right? - I was like, wait, people retweeting? Not for malicious intent, but just to share something cool? What the fuck? - Yeah. - Yeah. So, so far I'm really enjoying threads just because again, it kind of gives me back that old school feel of Twitter, but obviously it's still got a lot of work to do 'cause it is still so new and like, obviously there's like zero algorithm or any kind of like way of going right now. - Once they unban porn, it's over. - Dude, the moment they released the anime titties,

I fucking tweeted out or threaded out that shit. I'm just like release the titties bro. Come on Zoc, release the titties bro.

- He was gonna get his dick out for Elon soon. - Yeah. - One thing I did wanna talk about, I guess I didn't think we'd get to talk about this on Trash Taste because I didn't think we'd have a timely episode. It's already like a little bit old news 'cause it's like two weeks old now. Just seeing the whole fucking submarine. - I knew you were gonna bring this up. I had a feeling in my balls. - I mean, it was just,

- It's so weird seeing that whole event just play out because- - People like betting if they're like betting money if they're alive. - I've never like, yeah, 'cause I've never felt more like- - That felt so post-apocalyptic. - Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. I've never felt more in a dystopian fucking society than just seeing that event play out like in like real life, in real time. 'Cause it wasn't the event itself. What I find interesting is that

it just like captured the public's imagination. There's just the way that they did. - Do you wanna just briefly, I know everyone knows this, but just so that this episode in like five years, someone watches it understands what the fuck you're talking about. - Yeah, so about two weeks ago, I believe there was a submarine company where a bunch of very well-off people and some of their family members got into a submarine to explore the Titanic. And,

- The irony. - Yes. And for a few days, the sub was just completely like lost contact. Nobody knew what happened to the sub, but from that piece of information, everyone garnered that there was a certain amount of air left in the sub that they could be alive in. So there was like this hope that while the rescue mission was like going ahead, that the sub could still be found.

Later turned out that there was a depressurization and they basically just died instantly. - Yeah, collapsing on itself. - Collapsing on itself. That's what found out. But it was in the time period leading up to the wreckage being found that I find fucking fascinating, you know, because there were so many,

there were so many different approaches and so many different reactions to this thing that was happening. It was weird seeing an event being like,

I kind of event like this being memes before we'd find out like the fate of like everyone on boards. But I think it just proves that in some level, everyone's fucking terrified of the ocean in some way, shape or form. - It's scary place bro. - Yeah. - It's fucking scary. - Fucking terrifying. - Yeah. - It's weird watching

I guess it was like, oh, they're rich. So we get to, we, they should die. It was pretty weird. But a lot of people who were kind of, I mean, just that's the intent in general there. We give some people anonymity and they're like the worst human beings on the earth. It's very odd. 'Cause you compare it to like other situations that are, I guess not as similar, but like when there's like some people are trapped in a mine and they try to get them out. And it's like, I don't know if it's just 'cause like this hasn't happened,

for like, when was the last time something like this happened? I think the last one that I can think about where someone got trapped and everyone was waiting to hear what happened was like the Thai cave. - Yeah, the Thai cave, which is also fucking wild as well. - Yeah, I mean, like the whole online stuff was weird, but like, I don't recall anything online, at least at that period, which was like, people were like memeing it or making fun of it. - Like betting money on it. - Yeah, like it was weird. - I don't know, I felt like,

I feel like something like the Thai cave rescue that set like the groundwork. I mean, you still had like- - To be fair, that was kids. So it's all different. - That was kids. - What if they were rich kids though, huh? - I mean, all I remember is like, I remember seeing, I remember having this conversation where we had, we like, me and my mate watched like a documentary on the Thai cave, the Thai cave rescue, which is, if you don't know- - It's fucking crazy that story. - Insane. - Yeah, if we were speaking about this the other week,

- And you just see the image of just how far deep these school kids had found themselves. - Let me show you, 'cause I've just seen how deep they were. - I've seen it, yeah. - It's so far. - I knew it was deep, but I was like, "Holy shit." - And I'm just like, "How the fuck do you find yourself in this position?" It's like, so if you don't know, a bunch of Thai school kids- - Yeah, look how fucking deep they were. - Yeah, found themselves-

- 3,000 meters from the entrance. - See the thing, the thing, like 3,000 meters, that's like, to me, that's like a number. But seeing like the graphic of just showing how far they walked in from the entrance, it just fucking blew my mind. 'Cause I'm like, this ain't like a wrong turn you took right here. - Like there was never a moment during that 3,000 kilometer hike where you're like, maybe we should turn back. - I don't think they, I can't remember exactly what it was, but I think it was just like,

the cave had changed 'cause of the rain. - It started raining and then they realized they couldn't turn back after a point. - Yeah, 'cause it pulled in, right? - Yeah, but I'm just like, why were you that deep in before you've realized you couldn't turn back to begin with? That was what I was thinking.

And then they were just like so fucking deep in. And then, you know, it was actually like a pretty amazing story where, you know, you had the right people at the right time. - Just some fucking British bloke. He's just having to be there. He's like, "Yeah, I'm like one of the best."

- Yeah, Elon Musk called someone a pedophile and then the kids got rescued. - I love how he was like, "I'll build a sub to save them." The guy was like, "That doesn't make any sense." And he's like, "Well, you're a pedo." He's like, "Whoa, what the fuck?" - And then you have events like that leading on to this Titanic event where it just feels like

all of the limiters just got like fucking released. - I think it's reflective of the online sphere and where it's at right now where people are just fucking unhappy and people are just not feeling great. - The thing is, I don't think it was like this time because most of the time it was like limited to online but sometimes this one was just like everyone. You taught, you'd like,

you'd open up like a news broadcast and there would literally be news broadcast with like a countdown of like how much oxygen that sub has left. And I'm like, what the fuck is this? A game show? - It is modern. But I guess like in the news thing, that's like the hook, right? That's the story. - Yeah, yeah, yeah. - Come check back in again. - Come check back in again. It's like, oh, they've got like 12 hours of oxygen left.

- Maybe they didn't have the graphics and the fancy edits. They had this with the caves and the thing they were like, with the Thai cave, I think they had like a few days of oxygen. They were counting that down, right? 'Cause it's just like, people wanna know what- - What's the hook? - Yeah, what's the, well, not the hook, but for like the news things, but for like the people doing the rescue, it's like, this is legitimately just the timeframe that we have.

And for some people that becomes very morbid and for others it's very helpful. It's weird. I mean, it definitely showed a side of the internet which was very bizarre. - Yeah, to me it was like very bizarre. Some people had like a very, oh, you shouldn't be acting this way or some people shouldn't be commenting this way. I feel like in a lot of ways memes are just how this generation has,

- It's like a coat. - Yeah, it's a coat. - With the kind of like the hands they've been dealt. So, you know, I had like my own personal reaction to it and it was, but I find it more interesting just to see like the entire range of coverage and reaction you saw from like under the sun because it almost, after a point it almost,

it almost was like self-serving. There was this event and then there was people reacting to the event and then there was people reacting to people reacting to the event and people reacting to people reacting to people reacting to the event. - That's how I blew up so much. - Yeah, yeah, yeah, exactly. - And everyone was talking about it. - And then at the end of the day, there was more conversation about people were talking about the event than it felt like the event itself. And it was such a weird kind of like news cycle to see if like unfold right before my eyes. But I guess that's,

kind of the way like the modern landscape has coped with like big events. - Yeah. - Yeah. - I mean, the pandemic was the exact same thing, right? Like just think of the amount of fucking

sometimes hilarious, sometimes horribly offensive memes that came out of that. So it's just like, I just think that's just how it's going to be for now. - I can't believe, and I'm still in awe of it, because it was $250,000 a ticket to go to the submarine. There's a billionaire, saw this sub, paid the 250K, was getting in and he was like, "This is fine."

I saw the sub, I was like, "Holy shit." - Yeah, it was a Lego construction. - You could build the sub, a much more comfortable version of this. What are you doing? And the fact that he brought his son along was so fucking tragic. And then like the one thing that was super interesting about this was just learning more about the whole submarines and that whole kind of what,

like that industry or market or whatever it looks like. 'Cause people are like, yeah, these dudes are kind of wild. They just kind of made their own sub and said it was good. They didn't check with any regulatory body if it was safe. - Well, they said that some of the parts were like engineered by like NASA people and shit like that. And I was just like, I mean, sure. - Yeah, they have some engineered shit on my desk. - Yeah, I'm like, I mean, sure, but that's not an excuse, you know, or that's not a reason to be like, yeah, this,

"This is operational, this looks fine." - Yeah, 'cause they like mixed like carbon fiber and titanium, which is like a big no-no. - Yeah. - 'Cause they don't work well together. And I think there's other stuff that doesn't make sense. - You definitely went down the submarine engineering route. - I did, I loved it. It was super interesting 'cause there was basically just this guy

who had made this sob was like, literally his entire pitch was trust me. - Yeah. - I know what I'm doing. - Yeah. - And yeah, it worked for however many it works, but it was like, okay, well, I mean, that seems more like a miracle that it worked and that it didn't explode before. But the fact that the guy was so confident in this, that he was the one operating it and in there is wild to me. - Yeah, yeah. - But you know, I think that's the only thing about the thing that, I mean, it'd be,

if he had made this up and was like, yeah, you go in it. And then he wasn't. - Not saying that the dude had to die or anything like that, but like the fact that he was willing to be like, I am willing to say that it is good. - He's just Mr. Bernsing on the shore. - Yeah, yeah, it's like no refunds.

- It's weird. I just can't believe that anyone would get in that sub. That's actually insane. You'd have to pay me 250K to be in that sub for eight hours. Let alone in the fucking water. - And the fact that Mr. Beast got an offer as well to get in on that shit. - That's wild. - That was funny, that whole drama that was like, "He sent it to himself."

- Yeah, but all this has done is just heightened my fear of like deep water and thalassophobia basically. And I'm glad that I'm not alone in that. I'm glad so many people fear the ocean like I do. That's why I don't think I can like,

I think after this, I've always like, I've been on the cusp of being like- - You're done with the ocean. You're like, "I'm done." - I'm done with the ocean. I was like, maybe scuba diving would be cool. - I want scuba diving. - I want to scuba dive. And then you just hear like, I think the internet has just ruined me. 'Cause I've known of like, I see so many horror stories of like different scuba diving things.

And like the wildest thing is just that, you know, this idea of being trapped underwater and having to like surface slowly at a time, no matter what, unless you get decompression sickness. And I'm like, nope, nope. I am never going that deep. I will draw the line at snorkeling. This is as far as I will go. If I can see, if I can't see the bottom, I am not going there, baby.

- I love how they call it decompression sickness, but it's like, hey, you'll just explode. - Yeah. - It's kind of sick. It's really sick. - Yeah, hey, gas will just like start, your blood will just start bubbling. - Dude, did you ever see that, it was like a ship and it was like an oil ship or something and there was some boats around it and they were trying to do something and there's a giant fucking storm and the ship overturned

and sank to the bottom. But there was an air pocket in the ship where this dude was just...

- I've seen this one, yeah. - But he was like on the ocean floor. And he obviously didn't have any gear or anything. So they had to like, this guy who had literally survived in the cold ass water on the bottom of the ocean, which is chilling in this room. And they sent some divers, I don't know how, I wasn't like crazy deep, but they sent some divers to just double check that there was no one else alive. 'Cause this sometimes happens in overturns in some of the rooms, all the air gets trapped.

And this is a video on YouTube of the diver going into the ship and he's just searching. And this guy is above the water, otherwise he'd freeze and die. He's like, he's on something.

And then the diver, a hand just grabs the diver. And it's this dude who'd been living there for like three or four days. - Jesus. - No food or anything, just like freezing in this room. And they managed to save him, I think. - Holy fuck. - Yeah. - It's insane. - Also, I can't imagine being the diver at that point because that- - I would shit myself. - I would literally shit myself. I would like fear shit in that moment. That would have been the biggest jump scare of my entire life. Imagine going to a shipwreck

and then you feel something grab you. Holy shit, that is the thing of like horror stories. - Just like watching these divers camera, you can't see anything. They only see dust and they're just listening to a guy on comms direct them through the blueprints. It's like, this is fucked.

This is so fucked. Like the fact that you have to navigate this and this is someone's job and people aren't like freaking out 24/7. - Well, at least they took a diva down instead of a sob. - Well, probably if you took a sub down, you kind of get shit out. How are you gonna get someone out?

So it was crazy. And they had to like basically teach this guy how to use the mask and decompress and go up. It was crazy. - The fact that he survived is insane. - Yeah. I think I'm pretty sure he survived. Yeah. It's kind of fucked. - Fucking hell. - Have you guys ever been on any cruises or anything like that? - No, that's, fuck no. Fuck no. - Maybe when I'm like 70

- No, it just seems like the worst thing ever. - I think it'd be nice if you're like at a retired state where you're just like, oh, I've got nothing to do, no time. I'm not talking about like, you know, fucking weeks long cruises. Like that would just be torturous. Like maybe like a few days at most. - Yeah.

- Then I'd be like, you know, I can just chill on like a nice boat deck for a few days, go in the pool, maybe bathe in the sun. You know, I'm in a retired state right now. I've got nothing to worry about kind of thing. That would be nice. But like those like week long cruises, bro, I think I would go insane. - Yeah, 'cause you're literally just obviously trapped on the boat with just like, I don't know. - It's no different to being like trapped in a building for like two weeks, you know? - Also I don't think I could ever be fully comfortable just being on like the ocean that long.

- I don't know, is that a weird mental thing? 'Cause I'm like, plane? - You're on like a skyscraper on the ocean. You're like barely, those things are huge. It's like five times the size of the Titanic. - Yeah, I'm like, plane, that's fine. I'm in the air. That makes more sense to me than being on the water for some reason. - What are you afraid of, of the ship sinking?

- Yeah, actually, yeah. At least with a plane crash, it's like a quick death, you know? - I'm just saying, I'm just saying. - I mean, not all the time. - I mean, there's been plane crashes where people survive. - Yeah. - I mean, I'm sure there's been plane crashes where people survive. - And probably died agonizingly. - Yeah, that too. There's been those. - There's like no difference. - But like, I feel like, you know, you're- - You just went to skydive.

- I do want a skydive actually. It's like jumping out of a plane. Okay, I vibe with that. Getting in a huge body of water, no. Get that shit away from me. - God damn. - No, 'cause there's so many things like watching,

- Watching videos of just massive waves hitting oil rigs fucking terrifying me. - Oh, that's fucking crazy. - Oh yeah. - 'Cause you just realize the amount of energy that's just like encapsulated in some of these- - Yeah, but a cruise ship isn't gonna go through that shit. They'll be like, "We might expect-" - I mean, you never know. - That's what they said about the Titanic, Joey. Unsinkable, yeah? Unsinkable, Joey. And look what happened there.

- Shit, you're right. - What I'm learning is that you should just stay off the ocean, Garnt. - Yeah, I just should just stay off the ocean. - It's really ironic, the fact that you used to live near a body of water like your whole life. - Okay, I love beaches.

I just hate the ocean. I love seeing the ocean. The ocean is there to be seen and not be trodden on. - Fair enough, fair enough. - Yeah, I mean, have you heard about like rogue waves and shit like that? - Yeah, yeah, I've seen that. - Yeah, what's that? - As much as I fear the ocean, I do genuinely find it fascinating to like read about. - There's this concept that waves should only be as big as they, you know, like they recorded it.

But there's been like accounts and they've recorded these anomaly waves that are like

- Like one giant, not a tsunami, not caused by a tsunami. - Not a tsunami, just a normal wave. - Just like these giant fucking waves that are like 20 times or 10 times the height of what the waves should be. - Yeah. - And we're like, these are like life ending waves. - Yeah, and I don't think there is a scientific explanation for them or a proper scientific explanation for them, yeah. But yeah, to go on what Connor said, like it was like calculated years ago, this is the,

highest heights a wave can possibly be by science. That's what scientists said. And then you had these accounts of like sailors who have just been like, I've encountered a wave like twice or three times as big. And people have just thought you're a fucking liar. You're a liar until modern technology came about and people started documenting them, especially in offshore oil rigs. And sometimes there are waves that

- 100 meters tall. - Yeah, yeah, yeah. - Sheesh. - That have not been able to be explained about why these waves can exist. And these are called rogue waves. And I find them- - You're scared of the ocean, huh? - I am scared of the ocean, man. I find it fascinating though. - It's cool. It's super interesting, the ocean. - Yeah, it's super interesting. - You hear about those giant squids and shit too.

- Oh yeah. - Those are fucking cool though. - Yo, don't tell Japan about this. - How big you think? - Everyone else is like, stay away from the fucking giant, it's dangerous. Japan's like, all right, boys, we're eating.

- Feed a whole nation with that thing. - Yeah, we're feeding the family and the entire town with this, let's go. - Yeah, because isn't it like they've only, before they actually got footage of the giant squid, I think it's like the only evidence that they had that this thing might exist is because they've seen whales be beached up with these like huge fucking marks on them after a fight and they figured out that it's like a giant cephalopod or something.

- Man, so sick. - And then they finally got footage of it like a few years ago and it's like, yeah, it just looks like straight out of fucking Pirates of the Caribbean. - It's fucking terrifying. - Yeah. - Ocean's so scary. - Fucking sperm whales, right? - Yeah. - Like who, you know, you said giant squids and I think sperm whales like generally hunt giant squids. - Yeah. - Like apparently like their click is like so loud that if they clicked when you were next to it, it could literally like vibrate you to death.

- Yeah, or at least at the very least burst your eardrums. And I see clips of divers close to sperm whales getting footage and I'm like,

- You are taking one big fucking risk, man. - I saw that near like there was divers near, they'd accidentally seen like a submarine and they obviously didn't realize when they posted it, but like if the submarine like pinged its sonar, it would have like completely like probably killed them. - Yeah, god damn. - I think it would immediately burst like a lot of their, like rupture a lot of their organs 'cause it's so powerful, the sonar. It's terrifying.

And I'm like, why are you taking that risk? What if, whales can't sneeze. What if they have an itch somewhere like that? What if they're just, like, you know? - What if a whale just like farts and you just explode? From the shock waves, from the shock waves. - Boom! - It's like some anime shit, like a Nen blast. You fucking rupture. Start coughing up blood, you're like, "Satsuka!" - It's the most powerful fart in the universe.

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