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- Did you just yourself? - What was that? - Were you okay? You ran off going, "Oh!" - I was like- - The coffee just hit you like a lightning bolt? - No, I knew it was coming because I was like, I was gonna say when this podcast started, I'm probably gonna need to leave midway through 'cause I had Thai food last night. And I was just like, you know when you're like, oh, it's cooking, but you don't know when, but you know it's like- - Yeah, the Trojan horse. - Yeah, yeah, yeah. - I went to a fancy Thai restaurant

And it was like one of those like courses that was super long. It's like a Japanese Thai fusion. It was like ungodly expensive. I was like, I don't know if I would pay this much. But at the end of the course, I myself. - That's the sign of a good meal.

- You know, 'cause the worst thing about Michelin star, not much to star restaurant, but like fancy restaurants where you like feel like you're in like this vibe where you can't relax is the worst part is if you ever leave hungry is by far the worst feeling ever where you're like, man, I feel like there's like a couple more courses. - Oh my Lord. - Oh.

- I like held everyone hostage. Cause at the end they bring out green curry and red curry. - And you wanted more. - And they said like, yeah, it's unlimited refills. But it's like a course with like everyone there. But it's like a tiny bowl. And I'm like, this is too good not to- - So you made everyone sit- - Everyone had like their own little tiny bowl and they were like, I couldn't have another bite. So I ended up holding like these like six rich- - Yeah, but that's soy.

- I don't like soy. - Oh my God, bro. - Oh, you're fine, give me that. - Did you just pour that into like a real cup? What? - It was an espresso. - No, bro. - It's double-shotted, bro. - No. - It's double-shotted. - He also said expresso. - You missed an old ass Nespresso pod with a beautifully hand roasted espresso? - Coffee's coffee, bro. - That's coffee.

- To LDR, I held these people hostage for a good 30 minutes while I had six servings of- - Good, you should. That's the way Thai food is. - I would do the same. Thai food is not meant to be eaten in like small tiny little portions. - Question, did you shit yourself? - Oh bro, it was violent. It was violent. I literally was like, why is the doom music playing in my toilet? - There's a mosh pit happening in my toilet. - I'm always like,

- Very skeptical when I hear about a fancy Thai restaurant because my experience with Thai food is like, it should be like, it's meant to be like the cheap, dirty, like a dirty street store. That's the best tasting ones. - Yeah, hell yeah. - Well, there's like a fusion one. So I guess that was the whole thing. I don't know, you should try it. I'll take you. - All right, all right. Is it spicy? - I didn't think it was that spicy. - Bring your own spice. - But I think if you showed up,

- He might be embarrassed. He might be like, "Shit." - He'll be like, "Hold up, sorry, sorry." - We got a real one, boys. - My bad, my bad. - Did we start the episode? - Oh, we've been recently. - Oh shit, okay. - Yeah, 'cause the camera's on, you guys were doing the coffee things and I was like, "I have to go." - Oh, I didn't realize, my bad. - All good, all good. - Hello and welcome to another episode of Trash Taste. I'm your host for today. Wait, did they get my shit talk in there?

- Oh for fuck sake. Hello. - We gotta bleep out most of that. - I thought the cameras were off. Hello, welcome to another episode of Trash Taste. I'm your host for today, Garnt. Join me once again, other boys. And apologies to anyone who just tuned in and thought they could have a nice free lunch without any- - I'm not apologizing. There are 200 episodes that you should know by now. - This is Trash Taste, baby. - It's pretty much that. - Okay. Because we're not gonna be talking about that today.

that we've already got our shit talk out because today we are going to be talking about films, guys. - Movies? - We are getting our film critic glasses on. - Finally. - Because we've done some episodes before where we've gone through the Mal top 100, the gaming top 100. And we realized we hadn't done that with movies. And we had the most fucking...

- Deja vu? - Not deja vu, but what's the thing called where you collectively think something has happened and it has a- - Mandela? - The Mandela effect. Yeah, we had the most like Mandela effect moment where we were like, we've already done an IMDB episode, right? We've definitely already done that. - I swear it would be really embarrassing if we've actually done one. I swear we've done one. The thumbnail was Batman, right? - No, that was the movie "Three by Three."

Now what are you thinking of? We rate the woke episode. Yeah. Oh, that's right. Because we, yeah, it was, yeah, no, that's, no, I remember because it was the prompt was something that you would, something you know is good, but you'd never experience. And then we went on to IMDB. Yeah. The problem is that we've been doing this so long now that we're starting to forget what we've already done. But we're pretty sure we haven't done this.

- Yeah. - Although maybe- - No, we've definitely mentioned the IMDb top 250 before, but we've never actually gone through it collectively. - Yeah. - And- - I don't think I've ever like gone through it at all, to be honest. - It's literally like- - You didn't have that uni phase where you're like, "I wanna experience good films." Enough of this Disney crap.

- I wanna be a film critic, Joey. - Not really, to be honest. - Damn, you went straight for your anime phase. - I went through the top IMDb TV shows and watched those, which I don't know why I did, 'cause this would just be a lot quicker. - Okay, I did the top 250 movies in university. - So you've seen all of these? - I've seen a lot of them, but it has been updated since then.

- Sure. - But it changes every time. - Yeah, it changes every time. - The "Shawshank Redemption" at number one is literally the same as like "Full Metal Alchemist." - "Shawshank Redemption" is the- - This is the "Full Metal Alchemist." - This is the FMA of movies where, you know- - People just want it to be number one and they won't allow anything else to be there. - Yeah. - It's a good movie.

- It's fucking fantastic. - It's a great movie, I love it. - Can you say you have anything bad to say about "Shawshank Redemption?" - No. - I cannot. - The moment I hear Morgan Freeman just go, "Andy Dufresne." I'm just like, "You know I'm in the right, baby."

- Yeah, it's very good. - If I could go through this list and if I could like, it might not be my favorite film of all time, but if I had an aggregate of like different ratings of like story, character, pacing and all that kind of shit, put it all into like a computer and it would fart out the perfect movie, it would probably be "Shawshank Redemption" for me.

- What's also just like insane as well is that like, this is like a Stephen King film, right? And the fact that he was just one day was just like, yeah. - "Short-Term Redemption" was written by Stephen King. - Originally written by Stephen King, I believe. - He just one day was just like, I'm just gonna write something not horror and then just shit out this thing. - It's a novel by Stephen King. - Written by Stephen King. You didn't know that? - I did not know that. Has he ever like...

- Man never misses. - Not make stuff good. I know he's made a lot of books that are like okay, but he makes, he just doesn't stop. - The thing is, if you just continually write,

- Eventually you're gonna put out some bangers. - Yeah, wasn't he also like a massive coke addict as well at one point? - Yeah, yeah. - Oh my God, that's true. - He would write like five novels a year or some shit. - Yeah. - God damn, he's got 410 writing credits. - Yeah. - Fuck, that's just for like movies, right? - Yeah. - Yeah. - Yeah, that's the ones that have not been adapted.

- He must have that problem now where he has like no recollection of some books. - Probably. - He must be like, I don't know the fuck. - I think I remember I saw an interview of him saying like, yeah, when I was like addicted to Coke and I would just write those like really weird short horror stories like Cujo is one. He was just like, I have no recollection of writing that book.

He's just like, it just was like, oh, I published that book about a zombie rabid dog going around rampaging everybody. I have no recollection of that shit. - Everyone on this film was so good though. Every single character I loved in "Jurassic World: Redemption" and I've watched it so many times. I told you guys about it.

- Yeah. - Oh yeah, yeah, yeah. - I would love to experience that again. 'Cause this is a film I've watched so many times as well. There's so many scenes that are just like ingrained in all of our collective consciousnesses. And it's just fucking fantastic from beginning to end. There's not a bad part of the movie. There's not a bad character. There's...

- Not a bad actor. Everyone acts their role perfectly. - It's pretty hard to like discredit this film as the number one spot. - Yeah, it is a fucking masterpiece. And I believe like the only thing that was- - But it shouldn't be your favorite film. - Why not? Why? - Is it too easy? - Yeah, it's too- - I wouldn't say it's too easy. Okay. - Nah, 'cause if you say this is your favorite film, like, oh wow, what's your favorite drink? Water.

- No, no, no, no, no, no. It's not that- - I also like food. - No, no, no. This isn't on the same tier as saying my favorite TV show is Friends or The Office or some shit like that. If you said that, then I would think that you have literally like- - I think 'cause it doesn't say anything about you if this is your favorite film. You know what I mean?

- Because it's such a common thing. - 'Cause when someone tells me their favorite TV show, I will now, maybe I have in the past, but now, even though I genuinely think "Breaking Bad" is the best TV show I've ever watched, I just can't say it's my favorite TV show, 'cause it sounds like you've never watched another TV show. - Why not? - 'Cause it sounds like you've never watched another TV show. - But now- - You know what I mean though, right? You know what I mean?

- I know what you mean, just help me. I know it doesn't make sense Garnt, I know it's stupid, but it just sounds like you've never watched another TV show. - When someone asks you that question, you wanna give them an answer where it's like, wow, you know a lot because I've never heard of that one. - If you say like, I watch a lot of TV and I want people to like respect

my thoughts on it, which I don't know why I need that. - Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. It's like, why would you give a fuck? - What are you trying to get at? - Sometimes someone will ask you it, like fucking ProCD will do this, right? He'll be like, "Oh, you like anime?" - Name every anime. - Top five. And you bet if you put Fullmetal Alchemist in there, he'll go,

And you're like, oh, he's so disappointed. And "Shawshank Redemption" is that, where it's like, if you say this is your favorite, it's like- - What does that say? - Does it say anything about you? - No, it does, it does, it does. - You like the best film of all time, wow. - Well, here's the thing. If someone says "Shawshank Redemption" is their favorite film of all time,

to me that says, okay, so you've gone out and you've watched a decent amount of films. You're not on that like pretentious, like film critic kind of mode where you're like, I have got like my tastes are more towards like this kind of director. You are probably a fan of movies. You're not like you watch more than just the blockbuster hits. - I would have more respect if someone was like, yeah, I just love "The Rock."

and all those movies. 'Cause I'd be like, you know what? At least that like says something about you. - What if someone said- - No, no, no, to me, to me, what I would think is just like- - It's like "Isekai", you know? It's like, you were just like, yeah, "Isekai" is my favorite anime. And it's like, okay, I'm sorry you have brain death. - What if someone said that,

- I would have, I don't know. - I would have thoughts. - Yeah, I mean, first of all, I'd be like, the fuck's wrong with you? - Okay, no, actually that would be the, you've never watched another movie. - Yeah, yeah, yeah. That would be it. - No, but saying "Shawshank," I kind of get what Connor's saying. Saying "Shawshank" is your favorite movie is like,

it's like, oh, you just discovered that there are more movies than Marvel. - Well, "Shawshank" is just a fucking masterpiece. - It is. - We're not saying it's not. - Maybe we'll go through this, we go down the list. I think they were just, depending on your life experiences and what you prefer, however, whatever the fuck your personality leans towards, there will be some kind of media where a style or a presentation will just speak to you more. And I feel like "Shawshank Redemption" is a broad, very good story, but isn't like,

I don't know, it doesn't say anything about you if you like it. But anyway. - I think "Shawshank Redemption" is one of my favorite movies actually. - One of your favorites? I'm okay with that. But if you flat out the gate, hook your chest out, my favorite movie is "Shawshank Redemption." I'd be like, no, dude. - This man just discovered what movies are. - Yeah, I'm like, oh, what's second? "The Godfather?" Which actually I would take as number one.

- So you would actually take Godfather as number one. - But you know why? I think this is also gonna be a factor. I only watched the Godfather the first time this year. 'Cause in Japan they had Mafia Day and they played the Godfather. - Hell yeah. - All the movies in the theater, not three. - Yeah, three is- - And I watched it in the theater and it was, oh my God, it was amazing. - Oh yeah. - And I think that's probably why I don't have that kind of like roll my eyes towards someone saying it's their favorite.

- Godfather's already been through this. - But watching it, watching it, man, it's a fucking masterclass. But I will say, 'cause I saw two is on there, I think I preferred two.

- So which one do you prefer? "Shuoshang Redemption" or "Godfather"? - "Godfather", "Godfather". - I'm "Shuoshang Redemption", man. I'm "Shuoshang Redemption". - Fuck off. - No, you're not. - I am, I genuinely am. I much prefer "Shuoshang Redemption" to "Godfather". - What? - Even though both are like masterpieces, "Shuoshang Redemption" just appeals to me like,

- Way more, I think. - If I had to rewatch one of them right now, it'd probably be "The Godfather" for me. - It's so good. - Yeah. - Watching that for the first time was like an experience. I'm kind of glad I didn't force myself to watch it when I was 15 on 480p on a pirated website. 'Cause just sitting there in the theater, so good. And I went to watch it with Pete and Pete was like miming some of the lines as well. It was very cute, very wholesome.

- He's one of those guys. - He is totally one of those guys. - Oh my God. - You could see like when a good scene was coming up, I know 'cause Pete would lock in. He would like lean forward and be like, "Oh yeah." - It's like, "I'll make him an upcoming one." - The only problem was watching in the theater when I had to piss two hours in and I was like, I had to tactically hold my pee to pray that it was at a non-consequential scene. And then they were in Italy and I was like, "Why are we in Italy? What happened?"

- It's like, damn it. - Yeah, yeah. I was trying to ask. But yeah, no, it's, I mean, "The Godfather." - We've already talked about "The Godfather." - Yeah, it's great. - Look, "The Dark Knight" is amazing. I don't know if it's like- - Is it even the best Christopher Nolan film? - No. - Like, no. - What would be the best Chris Nolan film? What's my favorite? - ♪ Ten and ♪ No, I'm joking. I just love, I love Rob Pattinson. What can I say? Probably "Interstellar."

- I don't know. - I watched Interstellar for the first time this year. Holy fuck, dude. - It's fucking amazing. - Actually, you know what? You know what? Like Interstellar is a film I've only appreciated more as time went on. Because the first time I watched Interstellar,

I actually came out a little bit disappointed, not because I thought it was a bad film, but because I just thought it was a little bit more messy than some of his like previous films. And there is like one thing that kind of like took me out a bit and without spoiling, I'm gonna say love.

I was like, when that was mentioned, I was like, what? - Yeah, that was a little bad. - What? And then I was just like, okay, this is the weakest film. What the fuck was that? - I really liked that he's like a giant nerd, Christopher Nolan, like he gets really into it. I love that he took this concept of time dilation and was like, let's add a very human aspect to it.

If you haven't watched "Interstellar", please do. I, for some reason, hadn't watched it. And this year I'd actually kind of watched all the one, three films I hadn't seen. - Yeah. - "Dunkirk" was eh. - Also soundtrack for "Interstellar" is insane. - It's like Hans Zimmerman knows how to make your soul come. - Yeah. - It's like you're watching that movie. - That is exactly it. You hear a Hans Zimmerman track and you just ascend every time. - That one track, the emotional one, dude, it's even on my shitty head,

like fucking airplane headphones. I was like. - Yeah, he reaches the G-springs. - I swear to God, every time Hans Zimmerman does like a soundtrack, it like,

always becomes a meme. Like the latest one is the stuff that he did in Oppenheimer, which I hear like all the time now on some like grand fucking reveal on like a TikTok. And I'm like, every time he does a meme, it's a banger. - I think I saw this like thread or something on Reddit where like Hans Zimmer would like, he like actually like listens to like, I think up and coming like fan. - Yeah.

what do you call when you make a composer? - Band composers? - Yeah, where they would make like music and he would, I think he got shipped for a little bit. So I think he absolutely roasted this. - This episode is sponsored by Shopify. Boys, I run a clothing brand. We sell internationally and that's the vision I always had for the clothing brand. But when we started off, I was like, damn man, how do you do e-commerce? How does people ship?

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- Back to the episode. - One dude on Reddit being like, "This is the fucking worst slop I've seen in my life." - Damn. - He was something like that. I might be exaggerating a lot, but I just found that very funny that you've got one of the greatest composers of all time and he's like, and even he can't get away from like fucking replying online. I hate it. - It's like, "This is ass." - I think "Interstellar" is my favorite Christopher Nolan film. Like "The Dark Knight" is so good.

for many reasons. But I think it's more of like the legacy of everything about it is kind of built up. - It's hard because there was a point where I think "Inception" was my favorite Christopher Nolan film, but that's just been memed so much now that it's just like- - They've all been memed. - They have all been memed. - I don't know why, but I really don't want to rewatch "Inception." I feel like I would struggle to sit down and rewatch it. - I think out of everyone, "Inception" gave me the greatest first watch.

The first time I watched "Inception" I was like, holy shit, my mind is blown. I remember watching the fight scene where you have the like rotating corridor in cinemas. - That was amazing. - And I literally like- - I came. - Yeah, I came, I came. I can't remember, there's only like a few times

in my life where you watch something on screen and you're like, I have never seen anything like this before in my life. - Yeah, it was very cool. - I can only imagine what it's like going to theaters and watching Jurassic Park for the first time and seeing CG that realistic. It was like on that level for me as an adult in my generation being like, this is bending my mind. I don't know how they did this, but it is fucking amazing. And for first watch, "Inception,"

- I think "Dark Knight" though is probably out of everything he's made is probably the easiest to watch and the easiest to rewatch. - Talk about things being memed. - So maybe that's why. - Do you think meme power ruins films in some way? Because "Dark Knight" depends how much it's been over. - Okay, dude, in "Interstellar" there's that one frame where Matthew McConaughey is like fucking tearing up

and it was a really emotional moment. - I love that meme though. - And then like, I recognize that fucking meme because obviously I do and I've never seen the film and it cuts to that shot of him in the chair and it fucking ruined the moment because it was just extremely powerful emotional moment completely fucking ruined because I did the, "Oh, it's a meme." - That was me when I've watched "Breaking Bad." - Yeah. - This is sometimes like,

- Seeing memes in their natural habitats after you've just like experienced them, it's such a weird feeling. - Well, you don't know where a meme comes from and then you're like, "Huh!" I remember I watched Dexter when I was like 20 fucking 16 or something. And you know the, you remember that tick that- - Surprise motherfucker. - Surprise motherfucker. - I remember the first time I watched Dexter and that meme came up and I was like, "Holy fuck, it's from Dexter." - I had no idea. - Do you think I'll put it on the list

- Oppenheimer is- - I was about to ask you the same question. Did you guys watch Oppenheimer? - Yes, of course. - Did you like it? - Yeah, I loved it. - Honestly, you know, it's something that, I think this is true for every Christopher Nolan film. I'm going to appreciate it more as time goes on, I think. I think "Dark Knight" is the only one, you know,

out of like his mega hits that I don't think I've appreciated more as time has gone on. I still think it's a fantastic film, but there's so much about the Dark Knight now, I think it has just been ruined by pop culture for me. Like you can't, sometimes I can't hear a Joker line from the Dark Knight and just not like cringe a little bit. - It is a bit edgy. - 'Cause you know, when I saw this, I was like, what?

- Or 2008. - Is it 2008? - I didn't watch it when it came out. - Yeah, so I watched it when it came out in 2008. And I was like, whenever I hear a Joker line, I get reminded to what I thought was cool when I was 18. You know what I mean? 'Cause at the time this took over pop culture. Everyone was quoting this for like everything. And people still quote,

To this day, they still have a cosplay of this version of the Joker. And to be fair, I think- - It is the best Joker. - It is my favorite Joker. I think Heath Ledger fucking did an amazing job doing it. I just think I've been overexposed to the Dark Knight, if anything. - Can we all agree that the Dark Knight Rises is just like really funny?

- I honestly don't remember much from that film. - I think that movie is just really funny. The more times I rewatch it or even just like scenes with Bane, I'm like Bane is the most hilarious Batman villain we've ever had. - He's pretty funny. - 'Cause you can't fucking understand a word he's saying. - Tom Hardy kind of, you know, kind of wish you- - Like the idea was cool, but just yeah, the way that the fucking

I'm like, all right, sick man. - Damn. - Yeah, I mean, I think the Dark Knight is the best of the Dark Knight trilogy. - What's next? - And probably my favorite Batman film as well. - I think Godfather Part II is better than one. I don't know if that's, is that controversial? - That's not controversial. - Is it not? - I don't know. This is my first time watching it. - I haven't seen either film in a long time, so I can't really say. - I mean, Godfather Part II was that film that everyone was like, this is the example everyone,

everyone talks about when they were like, "Oh, sequels are always worse than the original." And "Dark Knight 2" was the one example people always came up with to be like, "No, no, not every sequel. I mean, there's "Godfather 2."

- I haven't watched the next movie. - Apparently the next movie is shit. I haven't seen Godfather 3. - Oh, sorry, I did watch it. - Oh, Godfather 3, yeah, it's bad. - Yeah, it was pretty bad. - It wasn't like awful, awful, but like after watching Godfather 1 and 2. - After 2, yeah. - Yeah, it's kind of like, wow.

- Yeah. - Damn. - It was kind of unnecessary. - That's not good. - All right, well, let's go to the next one. - I've watched "12 Angry Men" and I have not watched it. - Such a good fucking movie. - Yeah, I've watched this. - You've watched this one? - Does it still hold up? Should I watch it? - It still holds up to this day. - 'Cause right now in Japan,

- It kind of sucks 'cause I don't want to go to the movies at 9:00 AM. But 9:00 AM in every like most Toho cinemas, they play old movies. I think this is one of the ones they're playing. - So what's so great about this one is it's one of the first films I watched when I was going through this list where, you know, it really shows how,

well a movie can be carried by script alone. 'Cause this movie takes place basically in one room. It's one room and it's as the title says, it's just 12 men. And they're discussing over whether they should convict this kid over a murder because they're in a courtroom, right? And they are the jury. And as the film evolves,

you see one man be able to turn an entire room of having one unified opinion of, you know, wanting to convict this kid to one domino at a time falling as this man convinces them, Hey, maybe the story isn't what you think it is. Maybe we should reevaluate everything we've heard and seeing so many personalities clash, um,

just in like one room, it still holds up to this day. And it's one of, I do think for its time and for now, it's one of the greatest examples of how to do a film with pure characters, pure dialogue and pure script. And that's all you need. - Yeah, I agree. - It's fucking amazing. - I had to write so many essays without this book.

We did like a whole year long thing about 12 Angry Men. So we had to read the original books. We had to read the movie, watch the movie multiple times. And yeah, it's- So what were your essays about?

- Just again, it's about like how powerful scripting and character writing is and how so much harder it is than it seems. 'Cause like, you know, when people think like, oh, character writing, it's like, oh yeah, just like figure out, like just make a character and then write about it. I'm like, yeah, but it's so much easier said than done, especially if you want it to be not only cohesive to the entire film, but also like, you know, getting people to care about fictional characters is way harder than it seems. And "12 Angry Men" does that.

- Oh yeah, there is so many good like lines and there's so many good characters and the way they're able to characterize everyone with like distinctive character types almost like immediately is one thing that I think this film does really, really well. Another thing I think this film does really, really well as well is not knowing

what's going to happen next. - Yeah, no spoilers for me. - Yeah, no spoilers. But I remember, 'cause I was watching this, I was like, this was, I think one of the first black and white films I ever watched. And I was at the age where I was like, I don't wanna watch black and white films. - Where's the color? - This is some old shit. I don't care about what people in the 60s were doing. And for like the first 10 minutes, I'm like, I'm gonna switch this off. I'm not gonna watch.

And then there is one scene that involves a knife. And then that's all it took. I'm not gonna say what happens, but there is one scene where a knife comes out. And then from that moment on, I was like- - Locked in. - I was like completely locked in. I forgot I was watching an old movie. I was like, "Holy shit, what just happened?" - Hell yeah. - Damn, I wanna know. - All right, damn. - Yeah, definitely recommend. - Easily worth being top 10. - Oh, easily. - Oh, easily. - Yeah, yeah.

My favorite old movie. I think one of the only black and white movies I actually really, really enjoy from the olden days. - All right, next one. Garnt knows all about this one. - "Return of the King." - Wow, a film I can actually talk about because I watched this one with the boys. - You didn't watch all of it.

- I think we started like 40 minutes in. - 40 minutes in and then we didn't even finish it. - So I must have like such a weird Lord of the Rings journey 'cause I have now officially watched the Fellowship of the Rings and the last 40 minutes of Return of the King. - So ass. - Oh my God. I mean, what can you say? - This is just one of the goats. - Oh, this is, yeah. - I feel like I,

- All of the movies are very good. I think it's like a, I don't get mad when anyone tells me like where they put each movie. Cause I'm like, look, they're all nine out of tens. They're all amazing. - Yeah. - I mean my preference, I like the two towers. - The two towers? Really? - Yeah, I like the two towers the most. - I think that was my least favorite. - Dude, I just love the battle of Helm's deep. It's just so fucking good. - That is a good scene. - It just goes on because you're sitting there watching it and you're like,

it can't keep going and it just keeps going. And it's like the most epic shit of all time. - Yeah, yeah. - But I mean, a lot of the rings as a trilogy is like fucking massive. - Oh yeah, I mean, there's a reason why it's considered like the goat of fantasy. - I mean, I watched the fellowship of the rings for the first time, as you guys know, fucking fantastic. And apparently that's not even the best one. - Yep. - Wow, Two Towers is the lowest rated out of all of them? - Yeah, but- - I think that's the general consensus. - Is there a reason for that?

- Well, I guess when you're in the middle of the story, it's kind of a tough spot to be in. - Not to say that "Two Tales" is bad, but if I, yeah, it's just- - My favorite. - Yeah, it's the hardest to like, I guess, get people to care to watch because it is kind of just like in the middle. - Yeah. - You know? - The only downside to this movie is that some of the CGI is not great. Nowadays, when you watch it, you're like, ah. - I mean, it was great for its time. - Yeah, I think some of them look good, but I think in "The Return of the King," a lot of the,

like the beasts and shit did not look great. - It's crazy to think this came out over 20 years ago. - Yeah. I mean, it just goes to show like when you make a fucking banger trilogy, it just stays around. It just doesn't go. Like I feel like Lord of the Rings is one of those franchises that hasn't had nothing good made in a long time, but people are still like, but it's just the goat and everyone loves it. I think like I love talking about Lord of the Rings. It's fucking epic. - I saw it. - I thought it was ass.

- Hobbit sucked. - I never watched Hobbit. - Hobbit fucking sucked. - Really? - Did you watch the new Lord of the Rings TV series? - No, I heard it was terrible. - What's it called again? - Rings of Power. - Rings of Power. - I just can't, 'cause I don't wanna watch it and be sad, 'cause that's what the Hobbit made me feel. The Hobbit, you have this jovial 30 minutes of like, oh my God, it's Lord of the Rings again. And then you're like, wait. - It's not. - It's dragging this out so much. - Yeah. - No, what happened?

I saw this video that got recommended to me recently.

And watching Lord of the Rings for the first time this year definitely reminded me of this feeling that I think Hollywood's just, you don't see as often in films anymore. So it was this video talking about sincerity in like modern Hollywood blockbusters and how that just is not a thing you see as much in modern day because it seems like a lot of modern,

just modern writing in general, there seems there has to be like some irony to it. You know what I mean? - Yeah. - So there always has to be like some kind of like quip or if something weird or wacky happens, there has always has to be like some- - Downplayed, yeah. - It always has to be like downplayed or have some joke about it. And it was this guy who talks about watching "Lord of the Rings" for the first time. And he was like, because he had been programmed

'cause I assume he's younger than us, because he had been programmed by modern, let's say Marvel-esque Hollywood blockbusters. He'd been programmed to think, okay, something serious happens, I should be expecting a joke. - Right. - And then something, and then watching "Lord of the Rings" and realizing he was preparing himself for a joke that just, or like a quip that just never came because it's a film that takes itself 100% seriously. - Yeah. - And I was like, shit.

I really miss this kind of feeling. - I mean, but in saying that though, there's like a couple of scenes where like, you know, Legolas and Gimli kind of like,

- Yeah, but I feel like it's not like natural banter that you- - That's like natural banter. It's not like they see like a fucking one of like- - Let's play Fortnite. - Yeah, it's not like you see one of the trees and be like, "What's up with that tree?" - It's talking. - It's like some fucking corny ass like one-liner. - Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, exactly. I think, you know, this is gonna be like a slight tangent, but I think that's what I've really respected about the One Piece live action.

where it was just like, I was wondering why- - It took it seriously. - It took itself 100% seriously. And I was wondering to myself why I thought the "One Piece" live action, why I really, really liked that and really, really thought that worked. And I thought it is because it took itself 100% seriously. And I can only think like the only film I've seen this year that did that was,

probably June. And that was based on a fucking book that came out in the sixties. So what does that say about like, you know, modern audiences and modern like expectations? I think there is a space for, I would like to see more stories do shit like this that take itself

100% seriously, be really sincere about the emotions it's trying to like sell you without trying to like almost give itself a safety net. 'Cause it almost feels like a lot of modern writers are just like, "Ha ha guys, guys, it's okay to get invested, but you know, I'm one of you guys, you know, I know how scary this is, but don't worry about it, you know, I'll make the memes for you guys." - I mean, "Telkins" is a go bro. - "Telkins" is a go. - He wrote like an amazing series and then Peter Jackson,

you feel like you're watching a sincere love letter to the book when you're watching it. It feels so sincere and just so, everyone involved is amazing. There's not a single bad character. I mean, there's some characters that are forgettable, but no one that you're like, oh God, everyone's fun. It's just a joy to watch. - I do find it funny though. I don't know if you guys have seen that video of this theory that's floating around with Lord of the Rings where it's like Frodo doesn't know Legolas' name.

- He never says it. - Because in the film, he never says Legolas' name. He mentions every character except Legolas. So there's this theory that Frodo just never knows. He never learns Legolas' name. 'Cause there's like so many scenes where like- - Proof that he doesn't know. - Yeah, there's so many scenes where like, he's like shouting out, like at the end of the third movie where he's like, you know, he sees all of everyone come in and he's like, "Erigon!"

And then when Legolas shows up, he's just like. - That would be so on brand for Frodo though if he didn't know his name. 'Cause he seems like such a sweet boy. He wouldn't wanna make it awkward. - Yeah. - My God. - It's very funny. - And also fucking Ian McKellen as Gandalf. - Oh my God, the goat. - Yeah. - I mean, he's just such a good actor. And like he'd fucking knocked it out of the park and it's like insane. It's why like almost I feel like

I don't know if you can do Lord of the Rings without Sir Ian McKellen. Like he is Gandalf. - Yeah, but in saying that, I don't think anyone could be Frodo other than Elijah Wood either. - I don't know. I think I don't see it the same way with like, am I crazy?

- If they remade- - 'Cause Frodo's like a young character, right? And Elijah Wood's like a bit older now. So if they remade it and they had to recast him, I'd be like, ah. - Oh, you mean like right now? - Yeah, if they remade it like right now. I don't know if remade it, I don't know. They did something where they had him. I'd be like, Ian McAllister's a non-negotiable.

- Oh yeah, of course. - We need to have- - No one else looks like this dude. - Yeah, we need Ian McKellen, but everyone else, all right. I'm obviously exaggerating, but yeah. It's amazing. - Yeah. - Everything about it is so good. - "Masterpiece." - Yeah. - Yeah. - I'm sure. - The greatest fantasy movie of all time. - Yeah, I agree. - Series. - I agree. - All right. - I agree with only seeing one of them. - "Schindler's List." - I have not actually seen this one. - You've not seen "Schindler's List?" - I've not seen "Schindler's List." - Oh my God. This is like,

- Ralph Fiennes just deciding that he's just gonna go insane. He puts on such a good performance. It's very scary. - Yeah, I don't know. I think this is personal preference. And I've talked about this before. I just don't find World War II interesting. - It's 'cause you're not one, it's 'cause,

- You're not white. - Probably. I come from a country that actually had no involvement in World War II. - Fun fact, Thailand was the last country to wage war in the UK. - Yes. - Damn. - We were just chilling. - That went well. - So I've never liked- - No, yeah, I like World War II a lot. I think that's just like a thing that happens when you're approaching 30 as a white guy. You just get into World War II.

- I'm feeling as a Japanese bloke, Joey. - Yeah, I'm Japanese and German, so don't ask me. - Bro's DNA is the axis. - I've got two thirds of the axis, bro. Let's forget about that. - Bro's DNA is the axis. - I don't like look at World War II as like a point of pride or anything like that. It's like a lot of like, I think some people do, but like as like a,

like a, it's like a historical thing. It's just super fucking interesting. - Oh, so fascinating. Yeah, so fascinating. - 'Cause we have so many records of everything. And so there's just such painful detail of so many things. And so I think that the stories that can be told and when you, even when you hear about real life things, you're like, what the fuck? How is this real? - Yeah.

- And this movie is just fucking sad. - I mean, this is like, yeah. - It's such a devastating movie to watch, but it's so powerful. - Is this the type of film that you can only watch once? - No.

- I mean, I've only seen a lot. - 'Cause there's certain films, like for example, "Requiem for a Dream," for example, where I'm like, I would like everyone to experience this, but I wouldn't say I recommend it. You know what I mean? - It's sad, but it is depressing, but I will say, 'cause I think I've watched it like twice, on the first watch, you're kind of just in shock and horror from everything that's happening. And the second time you watch it, especially if you like movies, you can really like come to appreciate like the little things that everyone's doing. And again, I think especially like Ralph Fiennes,

I don't even know what it takes to play like an evil Nazi dude, but like an actual portrayal, not like a cartoon portrayal. Like it must be quite mentally taxing to have to get yourself in that head space. And he does such a phenomenal job and it's like a masterclass to watch. It's so good. But I mean, it's a very hard movie to watch.

- It is. - Right. - It's three hours long. - Hard to recommend. - Oh, okay. - But what's crazy is that he made this movie and Jurassic Park in the same year. - Yeah, I know. - It's insane. - I've seen like documentaries of his like schedule doing this. Imagine making Schindler's List and Jurassic Park. Bro.

- You couldn't be further apart. - It's like, all right, we're filming this really sad, like World War II film. Bring out the dinosaurs. - Can I just say that Peake Spielberg actually solos, you know? Like Scorsese, it's okay. But like, you know, let's talk about Peake Spielberg. - Spielberg was on that grind. - I mean, it won seven Oscars, Jesus Christ. I mean, when you,

- When you watch it, it makes sense. - Yeah, when you watch it, you're like, ah, yeah, I mean, yes. And it's also the type of film that would win Oscars to be fair. A period piece always does well. - Yeah.

- It is kind of strange that he made them at the same time, but I think it was because it was based on a book if I'm not mistaken. And the guy was still alive from the guy who survived the concentration camp. And he wanted to get the film out before he passed 'cause he was getting quite old. - Yeah. - I think that's why he was so like, we have to make both these films at the same time.

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I probably won't watch it because- - But 99.9% of the film. - I don't know. I just like the subject matter just doesn't really interest me too much. As I said, I'm just like, there's only one,

- World War II film I think I like. - Same program. - That was a banger. - Yeah, it is a banger. Every other film I've watched in that period even though I'm like, yeah, this was a good film, but I'm not really interested in stories from that period. - Fair enough. - All right. - That's just me. - Let's move on. - Next. - Moving on. - Pulp Fiction. - Pulp Fiction, that was my favorite movie. - We've discussed "Quentin Tarantino" a couple of times. - Yeah, quite a lot. - And I think we don't need to go

- I think my favorite is "Inglorious Bastards." - Oh, that's up there as well for me. And also "Reservoir Dogs" is up there for me as well. - It changes all the time. - I finally actually, finally managed to watch, 'cause I was only missing one Tarantino movie and I hadn't seen, and I finally watched it, "Hateful Eight." - "Hateful Eight." - "Hateful Eight." - "Hateful Eight." - "Hateful Eight." - "Hateful Eight." - "Hateful Eight." - "Hateful Eight." - "Hateful Eight." - "Hateful Eight." - "Hateful Eight." - "Hateful Eight." - "Hateful Eight." - "Hateful Eight." - "Hateful Eight." - "Hateful Eight." - "Hateful Eight." - "Hateful Eight." - "Hateful Eight." - "Hateful Eight." - "Hateful Eight." - "Hateful Eight." - "Hateful Eight." - "Hateful Eight." - "Hateful Eight." - "Hateful Eight." - "Hateful Eight." - "Hateful Eight." - "Hateful Eight." - "Hateful Eight." - "Hateful Eight." - "Hateful Eight." - "Hateful Eight." - "Hateful Eight." - "Hateful Eight." - "Hateful Eight." - "Hateful Eight." - "Hateful Eight." - "Hateful Eight." - "Hateful Eight." - "Hateful Eight." - "Hateful Eight." - "Hateful Eight." - "Hateful Eight." - "Hateful Eight." - "Hateful Eight." - "Hateful Eight." - "Hateful Eight." - "Hateful Eight." - "Hateful Eight." - "Hateful Eight." - "Hap" "Hap" "Hap" "Hap" "Hap" "Hap" "Hap" "Hap" "Hap" "Hap" "Hap" "Hap" "Hap" "Hap" "Hap"

- "Hateful Eight" is so good. - I actually didn't want to have it to you neither. - Yeah, I was like, I never got around to watching it and I finally watched it the other day and I was like, damn, this movie is fucking good. - This is a banger. "The Hateful Eight" I think kind of is out of every one of these films is more like "Reservoir Dogs" where I watched "The Hateful Eight" and I'm like, this feels like a stage play. You know what I mean? It's like you watch "Pulp Fiction" and "Glorious Bastards" you're like, okay, this is a feature film. Whereas you watch "Hateful Eight" and you're like, damn,

- Cause stage play. - Yeah. - And it's a fucking amazingly written stage play. But it's is also fantastic as well. I think it's a little bit long. - Yeah, it's like three hours. - That's honestly the main reason why I haven't watched it. - Yeah. - Cause I saw the three and a half hour on time and I was like,

- That's a doozy. - I think out of everything that I've seen from Quentin Tarantino, "Hateful Eight" was a little bit indulgent. I was like, okay, Quentin is obviously just Tarantino being like, I just wanna do things my way. I'm just gonna have fun with that shit. And there are some like really, really good fucking scenes and everyone has like, I swear, like the most banger dialogue moment in "Hateful Eight." - Oh yeah. It is like, I think I've seen someone say like, it's like Tarantino's 12 angry men.

- Yeah, yeah, yeah. - It makes sense. - Yeah, that does that very much reminiscent of "12 Angry Men." - Yeah, but it's very, very good. - Oh, it's two hours 50. - Yeah. - Yeah. - Now I gotta watch it. I'll get around to it. - I don't know if I even have a favorite Tarantino film anymore 'cause every so often I just like, sometimes I just,

I'm in the mood to watch one of his scenes, right? Sometimes, I don't know, Quentin Tarantino crafts a scene like no one else. I am waiting and I'm really, really hoping this will happen because I think,

if Quentin Tarantino makes a horror movie, it will be the scariest fucking horror movie of all time. 'Cause he is such a genius at crafting tension in a scene. - He would be like a foot monster. - Guys, we're gonna workshop. 10 months of feet. - Samuel Jackson's just like, "I'm the foot fucking master."

- He would definitely be a foot monster. - Yeah, definitely. - It could be any monster, but like, I think he's so good at crafting so many different types of scenes, but especially the scenes of like tension where you don't know what's going to happen. Like I rewatch,

I rewatched the scene in "Inglorious Bastards" where, oh shit, I guess that's a World War II movie. Shit, I really like that as well. Okay, I forgot. Okay, that's loosely a World War II movie. - It's like a fantasy film. - Yeah, that's more fantasy. But the scene where they're just like drinking in that like basement bar. - Dude, that scene is shocking. - The setup for that scene is so fucking good from beginning to end. And it's like,

you wait for so long for the tension to be cut and then he just builds and builds and builds. And oh my God, the moment you see that and you just like- - Yeah, yeah, yeah. - Oh hell no. - And it's one of the scenes where like the more you watch it, the more you appreciate it as well. - Oh yeah, it's such a good scene. - Yeah. - That's just like that whole attention to detail is so impressive. That's like, yeah, well that is one of my favorite scenes. - Yeah. - Fuck man, it's such a good.

- And also Mike Myers was in that film. - Oh yeah. - Yeah, like really weird. - Randomly. - Yeah. - It was very odd, but it was like decent. It was pretty good. - Yeah. - And so many scenes in Django as well. - Oh yeah. I also rewatched Django the other day too. I was like, every time I rewatch that movie, I'm like, damn, I forget how fucking good this movie is. Jamie Foxx is so damn good. And obviously, you know, Crystal Fault is like insane.

- And Leonardo DiCaprio. - Yeah, Leonardo DiCaprio, oh my God, yeah. - He completely sells every scene that he's in. Oh, what a fucking banger filmography. The only one I haven't seen is "Once Upon a Time in Hollywood." - Oh, it's good. - I've seen it, it was good. - I think to really like the film, you have to be a big fan of Hollywood, which obviously Tarantino loves his history. - I mean, that's one reason I really respect Tarantino as a director.

and that's one of the reasons he's my favorite directors is because out of everyone, you can just tell Tarantino is just a film nerd. He's just someone, and I've watched documentaries on him growing up.

He's just someone who grew up just loving films. And that was it. It's not that he did it to like study film. He just loved films and he just wanted to make films his way. And that's why I think every one of his films feels so unique and has something to say. 'Cause he always wants to do something different. And I'm always excited whenever Tarantino makes a film. - All right, what else we got on the top list? - Yeah.

- Lord of the Rings, Fellowship of the Ring. - We've already talked about Lord of the Rings. The Good, the Bad and the Ugly at number 10. - I've never watched this. - I have seen this movie because this is one of my dad's favorite movies. - Yeah, I never got into the movies. - Spaghetti Western is very much a, this is my dad's favorite movies. - Yeah. - Kind of like films. - This is Western though. - Huh? - Is this Spaghetti Western or is this Western? - This is just Western, I think.

- Well, Spaghetti Western is a kind of like genre film. It's not just Western films. - Yeah, I never really got into these films. I'm sure that it's amazing. - Yeah, there's this one and like Fistful of Dollars as well, which is another Clint Eastwood film. They are actually like, if you look at them as kind of like time pieces of like 60s Western films,

They're great. They're good fun movies to watch, I think. - Yeah, Clint Eastwood is so old right now. - Yeah, how old is he now? - He's like 90 something right now, right? - I think so. - Yeah, must be. - He was born in 1930, so he'd be 94. - Holy fuck. - No, yeah. - He looks good.

- He does look good. - He looks good for 94. - I swear bro hasn't aged in about 40 years. - Was there one movie that like, it was really popular in the UK with Gran Torino. - Gran Torino. - Yeah, yeah, yeah. That's a good movie. - That's a good movie. - That's really popular. - Yeah. - Yeah, there it is. - Yeah, that's a great movie. - That's really popular. "I'm a Million Dollar Baby." Yeah, I forgot that was one of his films too.

- Yeah, unfortunately I don't have too much to say about the good, the bad and the ugly. - It's a good fun watch. I think, yeah. - Do you think it's deserving of like number 10 as the-

- Go on, be full film snob. - I personally wouldn't say, I guess like the reason why it might be is because it did, it was the movie that kind of one, made Clint Eastwood famous and two, kind of popularized the whole spaghetti Western genre, which obviously went on to influence so many like future directors, like, you know, fucking Tarantino for instance, who loves spaghetti Westerns.

But yeah, I don't know. It was fine. I liked it. But then again, I'm not a huge like Western movie fan personally. But it's good fun. Yeah. - Okay. - Well, we can move on. - It's like Lenny's one's fucking badass in all of his movies and this is certainly one of them. - We can move on to "Forrest Gump." - "Forrest Goomp." - "Forrest Gump." - I liked it. - I mean, I liked this movie, but I don't know why I feel like eh about it.

- I love this movie. - I don't know why. - I think this, I don't know what this- - It's not even, I don't even think this is my favorite Tom Hanks movie. - Might not be my favorite Tom Hanks movie, but- - This is also like a film that, like not to be that guy, but like they would just never make a film like this now. - No, no, that's the thing though, where I miss films like this. 'Cause it's films like this, and I put "Shawshank Redemption" in the same kind of like,

or like space as a film like this where you just don't see films like this anymore. - True. - I haven't seen a film like this in a long time. And I actually watched "Forrest Gump" for the first time pretty recently, like two years ago. And yeah, like I said, it's just a very sincere film and just seeing the evolution of,

this guy's life story, very inspiring life story. I don't know. Well acted, well scripted, just a very solid film. - Lots of quotables too. - Lots of quotables. I didn't realize that the box of chocolate line came in this film. - You know what actually, it fucking pisses me off. Every time you get a tourist trap, they have the Bubba Gump shrimp. I fucking hate it. It's so ass.

- Well, the restaurant you mean? - Yeah. - I kinda like it. - It's cute. - Was "Bubba Gump" a film before

- Is this a thing before this film? - I have no idea. - I think "Baba Gum" comes from this film. - Oh shit. I didn't want to say that 'cause I was like, I would look dumb as fuck if I'm wrong. - I'm pretty sure it's from the film, yeah. - Are you sure? Because he also, there's a point where he was like, and then I bought shares for this fruit company, turned out to be Apple. - It is inspired by the film. - Yeah, inspired from the film. - Oh, okay. - Yeah, because when you go in, it's like all Forrest Gump stuff.

- Right. - It's so weird. And every time I see it, I'm like, wow, what a tacky way to- - I mean, it's still around, so. - It's 35 restaurants apparently all over the world. - That's crazy. - There's one in Japan. - Yeah, it's in- - What? - Yeah, it's in- - It's in Tokyo Dome. - Universal as well. There's one in Universal. - What? - There's one in Tokyo Dome as well. - What? - Yeah. - On guard, I would never eat there in Japan. - It's fine, the food's fine.

- Yeah, it's fine. - I'm not going in there though as a fucking Forrest Gump fan. - No, no. - Is there anything about the film that stands out to you or? - Like "Shawshank Redemption", I just think, I don't know. - The start to finish is just good, it's just fun. - Can you say something bad about it? Like-

Do you have any criticisms of it? Because I think when films are on this level, you know, it's less about, okay, is this a good film? And more about does this film appeal to me? Because I think there's a quote from Quentin Tarantino that talks about like the perfect film where, you know, you can say a film is not for you, but there's not really anything you can say to bring it down. And I think Forrest Gump and a lot of these films in the top 10 definitely,

- Definitely go in that category. - Oh for sure. - Yeah, I like it a lot. - Where I think it's fine to say that, hey, I just, you know, maybe it just didn't appeal to me as much or, you know, I liked it and that was it. But I look at Forrest Gump and I'm like, damn, this is,

this is a fucking great film. I think it's a great film. And even though it's not my favorite, maybe Tom Hanks film or my favorite film in this space, I can't actually say a lot that I can be like,

- It's just preference. - It's just preference, it's a good film. - It's just a fucking great film. - Yeah, I agree. - And I still think it holds up well to this day. And I would love to see more Hollywood come back and make more films like this, please. I think there is a space for it in modern film, in the modern film space. Not everything has to be- - Marvel. - Not has to be Marvel.

no has to say some grand fucking philosophical message. Sometimes you just need a heartwarming film. - Just a human, a good human drama. - A good human drama. And that's it. And that's exactly what this is. - The next one is Fight Club, I think. - Is it? - Yes. - Oh yes. - Yes. - Fight Club. - Fight Club, I mean, this is also a genius film. - What do, have you seen Fight Club Connor? - Yeah.

- I didn't know anything about it. So the twist did kind of catch me by surprise. - Oh yeah? - Yeah, I loved it. - What does it say that- - You can't say this is your favorite film as a guy. - Here's the thing. Seeing the evolution- - Bad vibes. - Seeing the evolution of Fight Club from like when this first got released to like modern day, to like the modern day landscape has been awesome.

- I will say one thing, this was my favorite movie at one point. I believe I was a 16 year old boy. And this was, I would say that Fight Club was my favorite film. And I don't know what that says. - You just know when people say that Fight Club's their favorite film, you're like, huh?

- Every 16, yeah, I mean, I do agree. Every 16 year old- - Every single year. - First heard like, "World number one of Fight Club." We don't talk about Fight Club, it's like, "Yeah!" - To be fair, to this day, I still think Fight Club is an amazing film. - Oh, so good. - Fucking amazing film, amazing scripts. Didn't know, had no idea about the twist as well. - Right.

And that blew my mind as a kid. Having said that, I do think even if it was like unintentional, holy shit, as a lost 16 year old boy who was discovering themselves, this film spoke to me in a way that- - You're a terrorist. - Everyone was just like, "Down with the system!" - Yes, yes. - "Fuck the government!" - "Fuck the government." - "I'm woke!" - "Fuck the institutions, fuck everything." I'm like, yo, this film,

Masterpiece, baby. Tyler, be like me for real.

And now growing up, I'm like, damn Tyler Durden is a very interesting character. He is a very flawed character. And I think the film is a great criticism of- - Also David Fincher as a director, he just did so many cool little things in this film where like, especially the first time you watch it, it's one of those films where it's like the first time you watch it, it seems kind of unassuming and you think you're following like a particular plot. And then when the twist happens and you go back and rewatch it, it's so obvious.

And that kind of storytelling is so hard to do. - Well, I think "Fight Club," okay, so I think "Fight Club" did something that's really, really hard to do 'cause sometimes the problem with film twists right now is that it's very rare that you see a film where you can't predict a twist, right? And I think what a lot of films do is that they're setting the film up to be a twist

to like a big reveal happening. So modern audiences are like, okay, I'm expecting a twist to happen. With "Fight Club", I think the genius thing about this one is that unless you know the twist is there, which you probably do by now because it's fucking "Fight Club" and it's so old, but unless you know the twist is there, you're not actively looking for one. It's just the story unfolds and you're just like watching it and you're like, holy shit, I wasn't expecting it. But now that it's there,

- Why did I notice that? - It makes sense. - It makes perfect sense. Whereas as opposed to something like, you know, "Shutter Island," which I think is a great twist, but I did kind of see the twist coming for "Shutter Island" 'cause you're like, okay, I kind of feel like there's a big reveal is gonna be happening. And I'm like, it's a great film, but it didn't hit me as blindly as the twist in this movie did.

- I'm actually gonna rewatch this movie again. 'Cause I realized I haven't seen it in so long. And I forgot how good it was. I wonder if I rewatch it now, will my praises for it still stick or I might find something new about it. - I have rewatched this, not like super recently, but in like the past few years. I still think it's fantastic. It was just weird to watch with the new modern,

of like the internet and stuff like that. Where specifically this and American Psycho, two movies I fucking adore and really, really love. I see some, I see like Tyler Durden in this one and I'm like, damn, maybe they did too good of a job making him seem really fucking cool, man. - Join Tyler Durden's Hustlers Academy. - Hustlers Academy. - Maybe we shouldn't do that.

- All right, let's go on to the next film. Yeah, it is interesting how it's a movie that is so isolated and then sudden events can happen 20 years later that make you kind of rethink the movie. - Yeah. - Well, I don't think that's anything that's like,

the movie's not any worse for it. It's just weird seeing people's perception. - The conversation changes. - The conversation about the movie just changing from it being like, oh, isn't this a cool movie to like, this is literally my life. And this is my philosophy now. And this is how I live my life. - It's my textbook. - Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. - All right, Inception. - Inception we've already talked about. - Star Wars. - Episode five. - Star Wars. - Episode five, Empire Strikes Back. - I mean, yeah. - Well, I'm not a huge Star Wars person.

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- Yeah, of course. - That's what I watched and this wasn't on TV. - Yeah, I mean, I was, yeah, I'm the same way. Like I watched this, the episode one, two and three first and then I went back and watched four, five, six. - But like, I imagine this is like, if you watch this, especially if you were around the time, especially or like 10 years after even like this was pretty what Lord of the Rings is to sci-fi. - Pretty much. - Like it's just like the series, especially the original three. - Yeah.

- Talking about how perceptions have changed for a franchise as time has gone on. What the fuck has happened to Star Wars, man? - I mean, Disney killed it. - What has happened to Star Wars? - I watched the first half of episode seven. I'm like, what have they done? Single tear. I was like, what have they done? - Well, it's just so fucking boring 'cause I don't wanna fucking hear about Luke Skywalker and his fucking bloodline for 19 plots. Like, make a new fucking story. - Yeah, they have.

- I mean, we're talking about some of the TV series and then it seems like everything is just a fucking flop and they just can't get a dub. - I think maybe, you know, this is just me kind of like taking a wild fucking guess at why, but like when they bought like LucasArts for so much money in Star Wars,

I just feel like they're so desperate to recoup the investment to like justify shareholders. Yeah. They're just shitting out the most mediocre garbage and they're so worried about things going wrong with it. Whereas like at least because I watched the, what was the first one that came out?

- Episode four? - Episode, no. - Episode seven? - Seven. - Episode seven, yeah. - I was like, this is so fucking boring. - Yeah, it was boring. I couldn't believe it. - I was like, this is boring. - It was boring for you even though- - "Force Awakens", yeah. - I mean, episode seven was basically a remake of the very first "Star Wars". - I wouldn't know, but yeah, it was boring. - Yeah, but I mean, even then it was like- - You wouldn't like the original "Star Wars". - Well, no, but even then I was like, I'd rather just watch episode four. - Yeah. - You know?

- I wanna see public Yoda. - It actually pains me to watch Harrison Ford on that. Like this movie. He so obviously doesn't wanna fucking be there. It's actually painful. - Yeah. - Yeah. I mean, we've talked about Star Wars briefly before in our previous film episodes, but yeah, we've never really been the biggest Star Wars fans out of everything, even though,

- Star Wars was such an integral part of nerd culture for so long. I was never really into that side of the nerd culture. I don't know why. - For me, I very much preferred growing up the edginess of like anime sci-fi. - Well, it's not even that. - 'Cause it was like way more edge. - Yeah, I mean, I loved shit like Blade Runner,

and obviously anime and other sci-fi shows, "The Matrix" as well. I love sci-fi, but for some reason, even though I fucking love sci-fi, "Star Wars" was just the one thing I was like, "I don't know why, this just feels different. I don't know why."

- I was never truly into Star Wars. The only Star Wars I was like 100% invested in was probably Knights of the Old Republic, which is the video game. Fucking amazing. - I think 'cause also the movies as well for me, when I would watch the movies, I felt like I was watching like WWE. 'Cause like the way they fight feels like a WWE fight.

You know what I mean? - No. - Because there's like this kind of like amazing showmanship, yet you were just in the back of your mind. You're like, ah, I'm watching a show.

- Okay, maybe for like the- - Whereas like Lord of the Rings, I was like, you know, in my head, I'm like, if Aragon dies, I will literally . If something happens to Samwise, I will not be okay. Whereas like when I'd see them fucking like jump around and then do the force, like I think the force, okay, let's get into it. The force as a power system is dog shit.

It is like the fucking power level of Dragon Ball shit where it's like- - Yeah, but it's cool. - Nah. - It's like a form of nin. - It's like the worst form of nin. - Well, okay, okay. - But I understand that like, look, it came out in the 70s. - Did you ever have a point- - 70s, right? - 70s, yeah. - Did you have a point where you saw a scene and then you're like, "I don't fully understand the Force, but I feel like that's not what the Force is meant to do."

- Did you ever have that moment? - Well, it's just how like the force was only, like again, and I'm not a Star Wars fan, I'm sure there's a Star Wars fan pulling their hair out at home being like, "I'm not a Star Wars fan, they explained this in the movie." - But like when you'd watch him like, I guess 'cause it's like a cum barrier where it's like if you just have like the- - A what? - Like- - Ayo. - If you can just block, you can block him, you know? I don't know why I call it a cum barrier.

My brain just wanted to say it. - It's like he came on me, just the force. - Darth Vader could make me not unless I have a high enough force level where I can block it. And then he would have to come and fucking sword me. - What if there's a scene in Star Wars where Darth Vader's just like, "Cop." - To my understanding, he could. - He could. - Do you think Jedi use the force when they're procreating? When Anakin was making Luke- - Erectile dysfunction must be a thing of the past.

- Yo, imagine- - You must be like forced to fly. - It doesn't even have to be hard. - Imagine hitting the G spot with like the force. - You could.

- Like no form, he's just standing there doing this. - Could I be like choked out by Darth Vader if I like had my back turned and wasn't paying attention or is it like a Nen barrier where I like constantly have my Nen barrier up? - That is what happened to Anakin's mom, I'm just saying. She never had sex. - She never had sex. Oh my God, so she got the cum force. - Do you think Darth Vader is actually like really fucking kinky?

And like, you know Darth Vader in the films are oppressive. - Heavy breathing and choking. - Heavy breathing. - And choking. - Darth Vader in bed, like definitely wants to be pegged. I don't know why. It's just, not just pegged, like force pegged. - He's like come to the dark side.

- Needless to say, not a huge fan of Star Wars. Happy to move on. - Yeah. - Stop making sexual jokes about Darth Vader. - I saw this one short where, you know like the sword YouTubers who always like- - I fucking love those channels. - Yeah, I fucking love the channel. And then there was this one guy who was just, I saw the short that was like, why don't they use this technique in Star Wars? And it's like,

So imagine like I'm coming to slice you. So you turn off your lightsaber. - Oh yeah, I saw this. - As you're going down and then you turn it back on. - Yeah. - Yeah. And I'm like, what? - Real shit. - Yeah, and they're like, why do people in Star Wars not use this? 'Cause that is broken as hell. And the top comment was Jedi, no honor.

- Yeah, yeah, makes sense. The forbidden technique.

- It is beta, beta technique. - You were just mentioning the matrix. - Oh, the matrix. - I know you love the matrix. - I fucking love the matrix. - Dude, who doesn't love the matrix? Matrix is sick as fuck. - I feel like it was like, it defined the vibe and the style for quite a many years. - I mean, this single handedly just made leather jackets cool for an entire decade.

I feel like. - The fights were cool. - This I'm pretty sure- - Long leather jacket with glasses was like the look. - This was like one of the first sci-fi films that I properly got into. Definitely defined my personality for a good while.

- Yeah. - It's such a good film. - And I have rewatched this so many times and while the CGI hasn't aged as well, I still think this is an amazing film. - Yeah, I like it. - Dude, "Ball Time" still looks sick to this day. - Are we gonna hate any of these movies? I guess they're the top 20 for like a reason. - Yeah, it's kind of hard to. It's kind of hard to, we can hate their sequels. - Well, I mean, my God, they certainly have had a hard time.

- Hard time getting a good sequel. - Yeah. - Damn, the Matrix Reloaded was a 7.2? - I think the Matrix Reloaded is over-hated. And so is Matrix Revolution. - I liked the initial sequels, but the new one I heard was... - Oh no, the new one is shit. - Oh, Resurrections? Yeah, Resurrections is shit. - Yeah, Resurrections is shit. - Resurrections is so bad.

- I do think the first Matrix is the best, but I still think there are some really cool ideas in the Matrix Reloaded and the Matrix Revolutions. - Is Matrix Reloaded the one where like Neo fights like all of those Mr. Spence in the basketball court or whatever? - Yeah. - Yeah, that scene is so sick. - I remember watching that scene. - That's such a cool scene. - I'm surprised John Wick is rated so low by the John Wick films.

- I mean, they're just- - Just action. - They're just action. I think that's a fair rating for John Wick where it's like, this is definitely like a cult. Like you come here for great action, you're gonna get great action. Nothing else but great action. - I like "The Matrix" a lot. I just like the world a lot. I think it's built up a great cult. - I like the world. I like just the concept of "The Matrix" as well. And especially in some of, in "The Matrix"

in some of the sequels, I didn't understand like computer terminology or like computer stuff at the time. I just watched it for like, ooh, cool looking action. And just seeing the world of the matrix being explored for the different architecture and the different things you can see in like computer science. I was like, that's pretty cool actually. I never appreciated that as a kid.

But no, the matrix, I don't know. - It was ahead of its time as well. - It was ahead of its time. And if there's one thing, I think it was the matrix that also properly got me into anime as well. 'Cause I don't know what it is, but it just, it feels very anime. I don't know why.

- Well, the Wachowskis are like very openly expressed. Like they fucking love anime, right? And they got a lot of inspiration from anime. So it makes sense. - Kind of like, did you watch the Terminator anime came out? - I watched a bit of it, yeah. - It was pretty good. I liked it a lot. I watched it all. I thought it was pretty damn good. I don't know why this reminded me of that, but I imagine that like a matrix anime could work pretty well.

- There is a matrix. - The animatrix? - What? - There is an- - It's called animatrix? - It's called the animatrix. - Why have I never heard of this? - I don't know. - Because it came out ages ago. - Is it good? - So it's an anthology series. - I like the animatrix. - I really like it. - Now I feel like I remember us speaking about this. - Yeah. The animatrix.

I think this is the best show of the animatrix. - Oh, it's a bunch of shorts? - Yeah, yeah. So it's like an anthology series, kind of like love death and robots. I think this is the best shorts. - We can get like a fucking like coolest retelling in the same world. 'Cause I like what they did with Terminator. They were like, we'll use the rough outline of the plot,

- Do we need more Matrix though? Do we need another film, another beloved film franchise to be resurrected? - I'm just saying, I've been kind of loving the anime adaptation of things lately that we've had. Like Terminator was great. Fucking Castlevania was great. I'm kind of enjoying what we've been getting lately. - So you want animated films? - I just think some worlds lend themselves really well to anime. - I think Matrix is one of them, definitely. I don't know if I want more Matrix though.

- I don't know. - I don't think I would want the story to be similar. - I feel like after everything that's come out, I feel like for me, the Matrix has explored every concept that I wanted to for its world. - Stop remaking shit, Connor. What the fuck's wrong with you?

- You're part of the problem Connor. - Dude, the Terminator anime was good. - The original Terminator movie was also good. - It also took how many sequels to get to the Terminator making something decent? - Yeah. - They fumbled that badge a lot. - Yeah, 'cause that is the pattern we're seeing right now where a lot of these franchises that are in these top now, we're getting to the point where we're like, okay, this,

This shit great. Modern shit that have been derivative of these franchises, please stop. - Yeah. - Stop tarnishing their legacy, man. - Let's see what's next. - Oh, I got pissed. - Oh, I haven't seen this. - You haven't seen "Goodfellas"?

- I haven't seen "Goodfellas" or "One Flew Over the Cuckoo's Nest." - Oh, shit. - Yeah, I know Pete always fucking quotes or talks about "One Flew Over the Cuckoo's Nest." "Goodfellas" I've been meaning to watch, but I wanted to wait until hopefully it came in cinemas again, like . - Yeah, yeah. - 'Cause I was like, I wanna watch it in the cinemas. - I mean, if you liked "Godfather," you're gonna love "Goodfellas." "Goodfellas" is obviously a little bit more in your face 'cause it's Martin Scorsese.

'cause I'm a huge fucking fan of Martin Scorsese. This isn't my favorite Martin Scorsese film, but it's- - What's your favorite one? - The name is escaping me right now. - If you scroll down, maybe click on Martin Scorsese, it should show you. - We're talking about so many films. Go down. - Man, there's a lot of films that did not do well. - Well, can you go up to like,

- Maybe just like what he's well known for. - Martin Scorsese. - What's your favorite Martin Scorsese film? - "Goodfellas", "Taxi Driver". He did "Casino". - "Casino" is good. - He did, did he do "Raging Bull"? - Yeah, he did "Raging Bull" as well. "Raging Bull", I haven't seen "Raging Bull" yet. - That's a great movie.

- He did "Wolf of Wall Street". - Yes. - Great, great film. - That's a great film. - I really, really enjoyed it. - It's a great film. - It's a fucking amazing film. - It's a great film. - What's the one with Leonardo DiCaprio and Matt Damon and- - Well, actually, "Shutter Island". - Not "Shutter Island". - Oh, oh. - And-

- Jack Nicholson. - Yeah, fuck. What's that movie? - Why can I not remember the movie? - The remake of the Korean movie, right? - I think it's Chinese. - Oh, Chinese movie, excuse me. - The remake of the... - Oh, what's that movie? That's such a good movie. - That's probably my favorite model. - I can't even remember the film name and I'm like, that's my favorite model. - What the fuck's "Sniper Than I"? - I think. - "Dip Man"? No, I'm kidding. - Shit, what's the fuck? - How is it not there? - You're on producer, you gotta go to director. - Yeah, go to director. - There you go, there you go, previous.

- 72 films directed. - Fucking hell, he's directed a lot of films. - Not "The Irishman". - Oh, "The Irishman" is so good. - Keep going down, it's pretty- - "The Irishman" was slow. - "The Departed". - Oh, I love "The Departed". - That's a great movie. - "The Departed" is my favorite Martin Scorsese film. - Oh yeah, what is it called? Like fucking like something heat or something in like the original title, the Chinese film? - I can't remember. - I've watched the original.

- I really liked the original. - Yeah, the original was good. - It's so interesting comparing "The Departed" to the original Chinese version. 'Cause there's like such, like I'm not always for remaking films, right? But I think,

I think in this case, especially when you take an Eastern film and remake it. - "Infernal Affairs." - "Infernal Affairs." - That's why I thought it was called "Heat." - Yeah, no, "Heat" is a different film. - No, no, I know, I was in like "Heat" something. - Yeah, but there's "Infernal Affairs" and there's "The Departed." And normally I am not on board with remaking Eastern films because I heard they're remaking

The Korean film, there's so many names right now that's

- "Parasite", they're remaking "Parasite". Have you heard about this? - What? - Yeah. - Why? - They're remaking "Parasite". I don't know why. I don't know why. And a lot of the times I'm like, that's the reaction I have where I'm like, why are you remaking this? There's already a perfectly good Korean film. But in this case, even though these two have like basically the same plots, there is such a stylistic difference between "Infernal Affairs" and "The Departed". - Jack Nicholson's so good in this. - Yeah, where like,

If you put the final rooftop scene side by side, it's so interesting to watch where in the original version, it's like super cool, super quiet. Everyone's like, yo, take it like turn around and shit like that. And it's just pure. It's really, really cool in the Asian sense of cool where it's just like everything is a bit more muted and it's all about the subtext.

Meanwhile, you go to the fucking part and it was like, like fucking Leonardo DiCaprio. It's like, "Get your fucking ass up!" It's such a heat. Everyone's like shouting. People like fucking being popped left, right and center. - Quietest Boston conversation.

- Quite as Boston conversation. And I'm like, it was really cool seeing both of these different films. - I forgot Martin Sheen was in this movie. - Mark Wahlberg's in this movie. I do not remember. - And Alec Baldwin? - I do not remember that. - Yeah, Alec Baldwin was in this. I love Mark Wahlberg's character in this. I don't know why. - What does he do in this film again? - All he does is he's just,

- He's in the final scene, right? - He's in the final scenes, but I swear every time Mark Wahlberg has a line in this, it's like the funniest shit ever. Because all he does is just, he's just a dickhead in this film. And that's basically his role in this film. - It's a great movie though. - Yeah, it is a fucking great movie. - Let's move on to the...

- "One Flew Over the Cuckoo's Nest." - Oh, what a great movie. - Amazing movie as well. - Fucking love this movie. - The book is also amazing. The original book. - Brother Jack Nicholson, right? - Yeah. - Is this also by Stephen King? I don't know. - No. - This feels like a book movie. You know what I mean? - Yeah. - It's definitely feels like a movie based on a novel of some sorts. - The original book is quite good. Although, you know, a little bit different. I would say,

the book and the movie kind of give you two very different experiences of the story. - Yeah. - Just from the way that it's written, because like, this is like the whole like, you know, unreliable narrator type of story. - Yeah. - I mean, if you don't know the twist of "One Flew Over the Cuckoo's Nest," then I won't say it, but- - I don't know. - I won't say it, but it's like, it completely shifts the way that you view the story. And Jack Nicholson's like, I reckon this is one of his like best performances on screen.

I think he won an Oscar for this, I believe. - Probably. I mean, I think, who's your favorite actor? - Of all time? - Yeah. You pick one. Jack Nicholson is definitely up there for me. Holy shit. This isn't my favorite Jack Nicholson film, but,

I go back religiously and watch that final scene in A Few Good Men. Oh, yeah. So many times. And I think that is my favorite scene. There's so many fucking great actors out there. Jack Nicholson is one of my favorites.

along with like- - He's not in a lot of stuff anymore, right? - He's not, and it's such a shame because there are a few actors that have the same screen presence as Jack Nicholson does. Because like I said, in like "A Few Good Men," for example, he's only in there for like a few scenes and he fucking steals like the whole fucking screen presence in that scene to make you think that he's in that for the entire film when he basically just has like one banger scene and that's it. What an amazing actor.

- Yeah, he's very good in this. - Yeah. I watched this quite a long time ago, so I don't really remember much about this one. But shall we move on? - Yeah, yeah, yeah, let's move on. - Shall we move on to something, what out of all of these do you think doesn't deserve to be on here or this high? - I mean, I'm looking at it now. - Is there anything? - Seven Samurai deserves it, Silence of the Lambs deserves it, Saving Private Ryan. - The Green Mile, eh. - See, that's my favorite Tom Hanks movie.

- Really? - Yeah. - Also written by Stephen King. - I hate this film. - You don't like "The Green Mile"? - I fucking hate this film. - The hell is wrong with you, dog? - I remember, 'cause I was like, damn, this is a serious movie. And then the, I remember, I don't know why, 'cause again, it's been a long time. I think it's like the whole fucking butterflies bringing back to life bullshit. Sorry for spoiling the movie. That absolutely ruined everything. - I haven't seen "The Green Mile". - It's a good movie, nah.

- No, no, no, no, tell, tell. - Okay, so. - So tell me, tell me, why don't you like it? - It's like Shawshank Redemption and like the, like the brevity of the situation. It's very deep, it's very, you know. - Yeah. - It's very serious. I just didn't like how like, it kind of felt like a lot of the seriousness kind of like went out of the window and they were like magic.

And you're like, "What?" - Yeah, I've only seen people talk about this. So I don't- - Stephen King again. - Yeah, Stephen King. - I mean, okay, look, I'm exaggerating. - Maybe this feels like the show- - I'm exaggerating when I say I don't like this movie. It's a good movie. I was just, I'm not a fan of the whole like magic at the end.

- That's the only part in the movie, right? - No, it's like kind of insinuated throughout the entire movie that there's some kind of like fantasy elements. - Oh, is it really? - Yeah. - Maybe it sounds fucking dumb and like 14. - Because the main guy- - I watched when I was like 14, so please, this is 14 years ago, I'm trying to remember. - Yeah, because the main guy, remember, he kind of has like a fucking Joe skate ability where he like- - Oh yeah, he does. - He can like heal shit with his hands. - I forgot about that.

- That's so funny. - Yeah. And like, that's why, like, that's why, that's where the whole conflict stems of like Tom Hanks' character being like, he's on death row, but in the heart, he's like a nice person who has this ability that could be put to good use. And then there's this whole conflict over like, well, he's on death row, but like my personal feelings are getting in the way of this is,

what he did or is what his powers are justifying the crimes that he committed.

- He's done two good fucking prison stories. Is he okay? - What? Stephen King? - Yeah bro, is he good? - Yeah bro, he's also done like 400 fucking novels. - Two prison stories out of like- - But two prison stories are bang. - I know. - That's why he's the goat. He's the king. - I think like obviously now when you explain that aspect, which I totally forgot, I think I just wasn't a huge fan of like the fantasy elements in this film. I felt like maybe it took away from the severity of like-

- Do you know like fantasy elements? - I think fantasy, fantasy is like my favorite genre, but I think the biggest turnoff for me is when there's like a fucking cool ass story and then they start adding like fancy elements that feel like, huh, okay. Throw a little bit of magic in there or something. - I actually really liked that. Whenever like- - You'd love this movie then. - Yeah. - Like what if we're like fucking 12 angry men that like,

- Well, if it's like, well, if it's, it obviously depends on how it's like introduced and it serves the story. Like for example, let's say fucking Bacchanal where they have this whole fantasy element of like the immortals. And I was like, it is really cool to see an old, like basically an old like gangster series, but just have this like weird element that you don't normally see in it. I'm like, okay, okay. This is something I haven't seen before.

I love it when a story just adds that like little thing. Obviously I love fantasy anyway, but you take a real life setting and add this like small fantasy element and just see how people will react around this fancy element. I really love that personally. - I love this movie.

- That's why I hate it. I'm kidding, I'm kidding. - Okay, what else? - Terminator 2 is by far the best one. - Terminator 2. - Episode four. - Wow, episode four is so much lower than five. That's so weird. - Do you think Terminator 2 deserves to be that highly rated? - It's very good. - It's a fun watch. - It is a fun watch. - I mean, that's the first movie where

he's like the good guy, the fucking Terminator, right? 'Cause I can't remember this now, 'cause I don't even think I watched the first one. Is Arnold Schwarzenegger in the first one? - Yes. - I haven't fucking watched it.

- Who is he gonna play? - Let me tell you this, he is the Terminator. - Yeah, he's the bad guy in that one, right? - Yeah, he's the bad guy in that one. - Yeah, that's right, that's right, okay. - And in this one, he turns out to be the good guy. - I watched like little bits of the film when it was on TV back in the day. - Yeah. - Yeah. - But I always remember Two would always play and I always loved watching Two when it was on TV. It was so good. - I mean, Two is like one of the other sequels that are better than the first one. I think this one is better than the first one. Terminator Two, I'm like, I've always, I don't know.

I'm fine with the Terminator series, but- - It's a product of its time. - Yeah, yeah. - I don't know, it's still pretty good. - It's good, yeah. - Like to me, I see things like Terminator, Terminator 2, and this is like the peak of 80s and early 90s action films. This is it. This is like, holy shit. - This and like, it was like RoboCop and then it became like Terminator. - Yeah. - And then what do we have after that? Matrix, I guess?

- Sorry? - Matrix. - Matrix. But I look at stuff like Terminator 2 and I put it in the same space as let's say what John Wick is doing for us like in the modern day, where it's just like, this is fucking banger action, well-directed. - Terminator 2 holds up though. I think if you watch it again, you'll find it holds up, I think. Personally, I think so at least.

- I don't know, it's hard to say, right? - It's hard to say because I was- - I haven't watched it in like five years. - Yeah, 'cause I think the Terminator 2 and I'm like, this is a great action film. This is a banger action film. I also think John Wick is a banger action film as well. And for it to be like, Terminator 2 is obviously like in the top fucking 50 films of all time. I'm like, is it?

Is it that good to be top 50? I'm not sure. - I haven't seen it in so long. - Fucking Avatar. - Oh yeah. - Yes. I will give it to this over Avatar. - Okay, Avatar is such a mid film. Anyway, let's carry on. - Yeah. Back to the Future. - Spirited Away. - Spirited Away. - I mean, I guess we've talked about it. - The pianist, that's a great movie. - Gladiator. I just watched Gladiator 2. - Wow, Parasite's up there. - Yeah, I watched Gladiator 2 as well. - How's Gladiator 2? - It was, eh.

It was all right. - I mean, look, I think Gladiator did such a fucking amazing job. - Yeah. - Yeah. - Watching Gladiator 2 made me realize just how much of a masterpiece Gladiator 1 is. - Like the music is so good in Gladiator 1 and a lot of music is there. - Did they play Jay-Z in this one as well in Gladiator 2? - What? - What? The only thing I know about Gladiator 2 is there was like, everyone got fucking upset because they released the first trailer and then,

I don't know where like Jay-Z starts playing. - I did not watch. - I didn't watch any of the trailers. - I had no idea what the story was about. And I was like, oh, okay. We're picking right where we left off. - Okay. - Kind of, well, 16 years later, I guess. - You know what my biggest criticism, let's talk about "Gladiator 2." - All right, we'll talk about "Gladiator 2." - This is just like a Ridley Scott criticism. I fucking hate when he does this. He just, lately, I feel like he just adds shit that is unnecessary. Like with the whole Napoleon film where he like shoots the fucking,

the pyramids or the Sphinx with the fucking cannons. - Yeah, yeah. - Which it didn't happen. And you're like, why did you include that? In this one, they have these amazing gladiator battles and it's like, just trust that like people are willing to watch a dude to fight another dude and like have that be entertaining. They have a fight scene where they're like, they have these boats in the Coliseum, which I believe they actually did flood the Coliseum back in the day. - They actually did used to do that, yeah. - However, then they have sharks. - Sharks.

sharks in the water. And it's like, do you think I'm fucking full? That like, I can't like understand that like water is bad. Like, and that like, I need sharks to convey that maybe falling in the water is not ideal. Like how did they get the sharks? Do you know how hard it is to transport a shark? We can barely do that today without the shark fucking dying. How did the Romans get a shark in the Colosseum? - Yeah, there's a couple of scenes where I'm like, that is clearly- - The Egyptians built the pyramids.

- Look, they still built better roads than we've ever built in the UK. But how could they get a shark and multiple sharks in the water? - There's that one and another scene where it made me question like- - The dogs? - No, there's this one scene where the dude's just straight up like reading a newspaper. - What? - Yeah, there's a scene where like, it's like a shot of like where the Coliseum is. And there's like a dude, I guess like reading up on like, oh, the new gladiators are coming in. He's just straight up reading it on what looks like paper newspaper. I'm like-

That wasn't a thing in 200 BC. - There's also like this one scene where like he fights like these monkey dogs, CGI things. And I don't understand what they were supposed to be. - Like baboons, right? - I think that, but they look like dogs. - Yeah, it was weird. - It was really weird. - My biggest criticism though of this movie is Denzel Washington. I love him as an actor. - Really? I thought he was like the best part of this film. - No, I love him as an actor, but every time he opened his mouth,

I was like, can you pretend to be Roman? Because he just sounded so American. He was like, literally every time he came on, he was just like, oh, my gladiators are really strong. They're my favorite gladiators. I'm like, can you pretend to be a Roman please? - I think it was the way that he would like laugh and talk. Like he was like, like now, like the way that he would like banter was like very modern. - He sounded American. - Yeah.

- He did a great performance, but yeah, I do agree that like he did seem out of fit, but I still think he was really good in it. - He's a good actor. - Denzel Washington's good at, he's a great actor. Don't get me wrong. - Top five actor for me, Denzel Washington. - I thought also Pedro Pascal was okay as a choice. - Nah, I liked Pedro Pascal. - I like him as an actor, but I feel like he's used too much now and he was just filling a character that a bunch of other actors I think could have done a lot more interestingly. - Well, that was my criticism with Denzel.

- I reckon you could have had any other actor there and it would be just as effective if not more effective because that actually, you know, pretend to sound like a Roman and not just like, oh, I'm Denzel. - I just think the first film is just so fucking good. - Do you think this film was needed? - No. - This film feel like a cash grab. - It feels like a cash grab. Watching it, I was like, yeah, a lot of aspects of this film are good, but the entire runtime I was like, yeah,

- Kind of just being scammed. - I mean, they straight up play some scenes from the first movie in this movie as like flashbacks. - Oh, they're the whole opening sequence is like a weird kind of stretched aspect ratio. - Yeah, right. - Yeah, it was very odd. It just makes you, it made me appreciate like literally just how amazing the first film was. - Yes. - And like how fucking good Russell Crowe is as well as the,

I forgot what the character's name or the actor's name is. The one who trains Russell Crowe in the original "Gladiator." - Oh yeah. - Oh yeah, him, Oliver Reed, Proximo. Proximo was so fucking good in the original. He's like, "If you win their hearts, you'll be the best gladiator." He was like so fucking good. And then I read about this guy's IMDB. He died before the film came out.

And apparently he was like a giga party animal, an alcoholic. - Oh shit. - And one time apparently there's an IMDb story where Stephen Queen, Stephen McQueen? Stephen McQueen? Is that his name? - Stephen McQueen. - Stephen McQueen, sorry. - Stephen McQueen. - Yeah, what am I saying? He was like, "Yeah, I'm gonna come to London "to discuss a film for you." And he was like, "Nah, we'll just go drink for two days straight." - Oh yeah, he died in 1999. - Oh damn. - Yeah, before the film came out. - Before the film came out. - But I think they, I don't think they finished filming either, but I think.

- I'm not sure, but he was- - He died of a heart attack in a bar after downing three bottles of Captain Morgan's, eight bottles of German beer, numerous doubles of famous grouse whiskey and Hennessy cognac and beating five much younger Royal Navy sailors in arm wrestling. - What a way to go. Holy shit. - His final bill was about $600.

- Yo, he died to avoid paying the bill. - Here's his quote. "You meet a better class of people in the pubs." And his trademarks were his chauvinism and outspokenness. - His nicknames were Mr. England. - You got paid a million dollars for "Gladian"? God damn. - That's the wildest IMDB fucking- - Dude, his entire IMDB page, his stories are so funny. - What a badass. - 'Cause it's like, what if we made the lad into a film star?

- Hell yeah. - He is the last. - Like he lives for the drink. And I'm kind of like impressed.

- Way to go, I'm sorry. I'm sorry, I'm just taking that in. Imagine doing- - He literally drank an entire bar, arm wrestled Navy SEAL officers and then died of a heart attack. - His IMDB page is a phenomenal read. I think there's a whole page about drinking. - Yeah. - Or like, yeah, personal life. - He was like, "Ladiate of the pub, alcoholism." Look how long that is.

It's like 20 paragraphs. - Such as Reed and 36 friends drinking in one evening, 60 gallons of beer, 32 bottles of scotch, 17 bottles of gin, four crates of wine and a bottle of baby shab.

- What a diabolical night out with the boys. - Oh my God. - I just, yeah, you just have to, you know, I just respect it. - That's respect. - I just respect it. - At that point, he died doing what he loves. - Wait, what is that? Wait, scroll up.

- Reid was held partly responsible for the demise of BBC Sins on Saturday. Some typical forthright comments on the subject of a lost. The sin featured on the first program. - You got a fucking show tanked. - Wow, wow. - Hell yeah. - We need a film about his fucking life. - Yeah, right? - Oh my God. - What an incredible way to go.

- True Brits. - Yeah, bottom line, don't bother with "Gladiator 2." Just watch the first one. - Okay, that's good. I wasn't gonna watch "Gladiator 2" anyway unless- - I watched it in the fucking four MXD thing. And I was like, "Fucking, I'm fucking in the middle of the fight." So I was like, "I'm trying not to come to the seat 'cause it keeps fisting your ass." - Does it like help the experience?

- It turns it into a, I'd say it turns it like a film like this into a bit more of like a theme park vibe. - Right. - 'Cause it is a, yeah, it is a seven out of 10. - Does it help you immerse in the scene?

- It's kind of fun. This film I could fall asleep to, which isn't like saying it's bad, but I was just particularly tired that day. So having a fucking chair ride kind of adds to a little bit of enjoyment. Most films I wouldn't want that. - Yeah, 'cause I was really drunk when I watched this movie. I had just gone to like the Izakaya with some friends and then we were gonna go see this movie and the first five minutes I was sitting there, I'm just like, oh fuck, it started.

- Yeah, but either way it was like whatever. - I've gone to movie theaters, I go like maybe twice a month, maybe sometimes even more. And I'm so fucking sick of watching that shitty trailer to that new fucking Captain America film. They've been playing it for like a year straight. And every single time I go to this theater, I see this shit trailer with Harrison Ford.

who's acting, which is crazy. I never thought I'd see the day and it's just awful. I hate seeing this trailer. Sorry, it's a nitpick. If you go to the movie theater, you know what I'm talking about. I don't want to fucking see this trailer anymore. Can the film come out so I never have to watch this fucking shit trailer? - No, I fucking hate seeing the trailer for the Minecraft movie. - I have not seen that. - Really? Every single, even with this movie, the trailer, the first trailer was the Minecraft movie. And I'm like, I'm not gonna watch it. - They did not play that when I was there, fuck.

- Yeah. - Fucking. - But yeah, Gladiator 1, absolutely fucking goaded movie. - All right, what else? - So good. - What else we picking up on this list? - Definitely deserves. Psycho, amazing movie. Lion King. - Do you think, go through this.

I know it's like the meme, but how much do you guys agree with it? Do you think Hollywood has become creatively bankrupt? Do you think films were better back in the day versus now? - I mean, there is a lot of, even like a lot of Hollywood actors that are like, yeah, you just can't make as many like B tier films that would get cult followings anymore 'cause of the lack of DVD sales.

It's all about marketing now. - Yeah, which is like very unfortunate. 'Cause there are a lot of the films that we all love are films that would never

that would never get made now. - Yeah. - 'Cause you have to make $200 million. - Yeah. - Otherwise the film is a failure. - Yeah. - Or it goes straight to Netflix where sometimes it gets buried and no one hears about it or maybe it's compromised for whatever reasons. - Yeah. - It's kind of a bad. - A lot of these films that we've gone through aside from like some fucking like "Gladiators", "Gladiators" is a blockbuster, "The Matrix" is a blockbuster. But a lot of the films are let's say,

like the B grade kind of film, not in terms of like it's production. No, not in terms of like it's legacy, but more in terms of like the production and the budgets and the storylines where it's not this big epic blockbuster, but more a lot of these like human stories, which I feel like, I don't know, maybe 'cause I don't know how,

- I think now, whereas you could easily kind of stumble onto a pretty good film by going to the theater and just being like, oh, this is on.

I feel like that doesn't happen now. 'Cause I think a lot of the good movies don't get theatrical releases. I think like, it's kind of like a meme, like A24 films. 'Cause they're all like kind of like similar vibe. I do think though, like they have the indie films ish that they're putting out, like they're putting films out on like budgets between like a million to a hundred million, which is like low nowadays.

Like some of the films I'm putting out are really good, but you would- - I would say a million to 10 million. - Yeah, I think there's one or two that have got a hundred million. - I think it's mostly just casting. - But like now you have to, I think saying movies are bad now is not true. I think movies that get theatrical leases now are mostly boring and not good.

'cause they have to be the blockbusters. But I do think that it's way better now than it was like four years ago. - You'd say so? - Yeah, I think that the amount of good films we get now that you can watch, but you have to go out of your way to find them and look for them now. You can't stumble into the movie theater and watch a cult classic anymore. - Yeah. - If you just go to like, I don't know, like A24, like a lot of the movies are eh, but there's some really fun and interesting movies and fun concepts if you just type in A24 movies. - I love A24 movies. - I like...

- I like a lot of the concepts. They're kind of like, and some of them are like fucking like black mirror episodes that are full movies. Like, "Ex Machina" is a very interesting movie. But that definitely does, you know, I watch "Ex Machina" for example. - "Hereditary", it's great. - "Hereditary", I'm like, these are, this is a great film, but it feels like almost like, it was like I'm watching like an art house film, you know? - For sure, for sure. Like I think, but I think,

you kind of have to make it different. Like if you watch the lobster, that's an amazing movie. - Yeah, I've watched lobster as well. - The lighthouse, one of my favorites. - Yeah. - Midsummer obviously, like the horror movies they've been doing actually put some of the better ones, like Uncut Gems, fucking phenomenal. Like the films that they are like A24 putting out, they put out a lot of stinkers. - Yeah.

- You know, one out of three, one out of four are really interesting. - I've heard "Civil War" is amazing. - I watched "Civil War", it was okay. - I've heard really good things about "Civil War". - A lot of Americans will be like, 'cause in the movie, California and Texas are two guys. - Yeah, yeah, yeah. - It can't be. It's okay, yeah, pretty good movie. Kirsten Dunst is really good in it. I think we do, cinema is good right now, but again, you have to look for it and you have to,

- You can't actively seek it out. You can't just, it's like anime. You can't just fucking- - It's like music or anything like that. - Yeah. - Yeah, because every time, like I've not, like I've watched two films in cinemas and both have been bangers to be fair recently, which has been "Spider-Man" and- - That's not recent though. - What's your rendition of recent? - Recent? - That's like six months.

- That was like six months ago, right? Spider-Man Into the Spider-Verse was this year, right? - That was last year. - That was last year, bro. - No fuck. - Yeah, that was last year. It's right there actually. - 2023. - 2023, oh my God. - Bro, that was last year. What do you mean this year? You haven't watched, have you been to the movie this year? - I watched "Dune" part two this year. - Okay, all right, okay. - Okay, okay. I watched "Dune" part two this year. Is there any other film you think

that was worth watching in cinemas as opposed to being like, "Oh, watch this on Netflix." - From this year? - From this year, yes. Because if I wanna watch something in cinemas, I'm like, it has to be something that's worth traveling out for. - Can we show a film release this year? Sorry, I know I should be able to say something off the top of my head. - The only film that has made me want to go out- - Movies from 2024. - Or top films, yeah. I should be able to tell you, but I, okay.

- All right, well, let's have a look. The fact that fucking half of those are Marvel, it disgusts me. - Yeah, like the only thing that almost got me close was Deadpool and Wolverine. And that was mostly because it was like- - Can I scroll up? Just like click going through the arrow. - Yeah. - Furiosa was fun. - Furiosa, you don't need to watch that. - I watched Godzilla and Kong, that was fun. - Thank you, guys. - But like, I look at a lot of these and I'm like,

- I'll wait for the Netflix release. - What about the Winnie the Pooh horror film? - The Winnie the Pooh horror film. I still kind of want to watch that. - Well, to be honest with you, yeah. I mean, I have watched a lot of these films in the theater, but I don't necessarily think they need to be watched

it's not like a Godfather kind of situation. - I think you're better off just like kind of going back to like the old films. - That's it. Like if I would be more likely to go to a cinema, to go to the cinema if there was a re-release of some films that have come out before as opposed to like- - Yeah, go to 9am if you want. If you want we can go at 9am.

- Yes, as opposed to some of the films that are coming out today. - "Alien Romulus" I really enjoyed. - Really? - That was good. - I watched that in- - Is that actually good? - I really enjoyed it. - Okay. - It was like a lot of people were expecting it to be kind of ass, but apparently it's better than- - I saw, 'cause I've seen one scene from "Alien Romulus" and it's,

one fucking thing I've come to despise in like modern films where it's just like, all right, we just need a call back to, we just need the thing. Do the thing of like what they did previously. And I saw the one scene where when the guy's on top of the alien and he's just like, get away from her you.

"Bitch." And I'm like, "Okay, there it is. "There's the thing. "There's the thing. "There's the cameo. "There's the fucking line. "All right, all right. "Get it out the way. "All right." - See, I watched this and I- - Was there that in like "Gladiator 2"? Was there like the thing moment where the- - No, I was half expecting him to say, "Are you not entertained?" - Yeah, yeah. That's what, that's what. Thankfully they didn't.

'Cause if they did, I would have been like, "What the fuck?" - Yeah, I like "Romulus" a lot. I felt like I wouldn't have enjoyed it if I watched it on like home. I think the theater experience was really good. - Yeah. - 'Cause it had, you know, it was so visual and the audio was insane. - Yeah. - And I think sitting there in the theater was really good. I mean, "Dune," "Dune" you have to watch. - "Dune," yeah, that's why. - So you watch that. "Garfield" the movie. - "Garfield" the movie, let's go. - Genuinely a theater experience for sure.

- No, honestly, most of the time watching, the reason why I like watching in the theater is that I feel like I give something my full attention. Whereas like, I'm gonna be real with you. Like I watched Deadpool. If I watched that at home, I would have to pull out my phone. It's just not interesting enough for me.

- Yeah. - Where I was like- - "Furioso" was actually pretty good actually. - "Furioso" was fun. - I would say "Furioso" was probably a film that I wouldn't enjoy watching at home, but I loved in the theater. - Yeah, in cinemas this was awesome. - 'Cause it was like visually fucking stunning. - Yeah. - Okay. - Story was eh. - I love "Mad Max" though. I'm a "Mad Max" simp.

- I've seen any Mad Max film I've watched. - Really? - Nah, I've not watched any other ones. - My dad's been in a Mad Max movie. - What? - Yeah. - Because he's Australian? - Yeah. - What the fuck? - In a Mad Max Thunderdome. 'Cause like the old Mad Max movies, they filmed all those in Australia. And my dad was an extra in Mad Max Thunderdome.

So if you watch Mad Max Thunderdome, look out for the guy wearing an Afro passing a chainsaw up in the Thunderdome. That's my dad. - Damn. - Yeah, I only know this because my dad won't shut the fuck up about it. - Shut the fucking Thunderdome, Sam. - Every time he's like watching something on the TV, he's just like, "Oh, let's watch Mad Max Thunderdome." - Oh my God. - And he's like, "There I am." - You can't watch your own cameo. - He's literally on screen for two seconds. He's like, "There I am."

- It is a good movie though. - The fuck is Rebel Moon? The fuck is that? - Rebel Moon part two. - What the fuck is that? - The Scar Giver. - Is that Marvel? - It's Zack Snyder films.

- For 16% of Rotten Tomatoes, bro. I was on Netflix. There you go. - Bro, you know what I'm hyped for, unironically? The new Wallace and Gromit movie. - The new Wallace and Gromit movie? - Dude, and the reviews are killer. - Hold up, look it up. - Dude, I love, I actually rewatched Wallace and Gromit. The trousers one with the penguin recently. It was so fucking good. - Vengeance Most Vow, yeah. - Also Curse of the Were-Rabbit, banger movie. - Dude, I'm so excited for this. - Oh, they're remaking it.

- Is it out? - "Vengeance Most Foul." - Yeah, yeah, yeah. - Oh, they're remaking it. - Yeah, they're remaking it. - Oh shit. - And it'll be out December 18th. - Oh, damn. - Let's go. - Let's fucking go. - I'm so excited. - "Ardent of the Cure 2." - I love, the older I'm getting, the more I like "Stop Motion." - Oh yeah. - Bro, "Chicken Run." - Dude, "Chicken Run" is great. - Dude, even "Chicken Run 2" was actually really good. - Really?

- I didn't hear anyone talk about it. - I thought it was gonna be ass, but I actually really enjoyed that movie. - What's the rating? What's the R and D rating? - It's probably bad, but I really enjoyed it. - 6.3. - Oh, it's actually not bad. - That is pretty bad. - Dawn of the Nugget. - Yeah.

- Pretty bad name. - It's a shit name, but the actual, like what I appreciated was the fact that like kind of all of the joke beats were very similar and not overly corny and like not overly like modernized. Like if you had told me that this movie came out like, you know, a couple of years after the first movie, I would probably believe you. Like it just looked and felt like an old movie.

So I appreciated it. - Interesting. - I don't know, I'm trying my best not to be an old man shouting at the sky. - I like the old man. - But I do genuinely like, part of the reason why just, 'cause I used to watch so many films, like going through this list, I've seen like most of this list, right? And now I'm just realizing I just don't watch films anymore.

I just don't watch, I seriously think, like I watch "Whiplash", you know, "Whiplash" fucking incredible film. - Yeah, it's a lot to watch. - What do you mean? - "Whiplash", it's intense. - It is intense. - It is intense. - It's a bit much. - Oh, this was like, I remember watching this for the first time, I literally,

felt fucking corny as fuck, but I was just like the final scene ended and I literally just like fucking collapsed. I was by myself. - Me when my pilot lands the plane. - I literally was just there. And Sidney's like, I was sitting in the living room, Sidney just hears. I'm a corny ass motherfucker, I know that shit. But when I see peak, I fucking, I want to like appreciate that shit, you know? 'Cause I just thought it had such an amazing ending.

I think this is one of my favorites, like human drama. Like I'd say modern human, like drama films, but it's kind of like fucking 2014. - Yeah, it's still 10 year old film. - It's like, yeah, it's a 10 year old film now, you know? - 2020 ruined my perception of time. - 2020 has ruined my perception of time. - It was like pre 2020 and then,

- 2024. - Yeah, pretty much. - There's no in between. - Yeah, and it just feels like everything in cinemas nowadays, it's all like fucking remakes or let's, do you ever see like a franchise now and you just feel like in your mind that franchise stopped existing after a certain film? You know? - Yeah, I know what you mean. - Like "Terminator 2", for example, even though I know there are like so many other "Terminators" now, the reason I didn't watch,

didn't really pay attention to the new Terminator anime was because to me, I'm like, Terminator for me has ended.

- Yeah. - With "Terminator 2." - Fair, fair. - In my mental space, I'm like, that's the ending. I don't know how many "Star Wars" things out right now, but in my mind that is already ended. - There's too many. - With like, I can't keep up with all this shit. - Did you see the interview with, kind of unrelated, but it was fucking The Rock talking about his new film, "Red One." And he's talking about, he's like, "Yeah, I went to the same cinema that-"

that Christopher Nolan first watched Oppenheimer. I sat in the exact same seat that he sat in. And I thought, man, "Red One" is gonna be amazing. And it's like a absolutely like fucking garbage, like Christmas dog water film. - What is "Red One"? - It's like his Christmas holiday film with him and Captain America, I forgot his name.

- Chris Evans. - Chris Evans. - And it's, bro, it's so, can you, there's gotta be the clip somewhere. It's like him sitting down. If you just type in the Reddit, maybe there's a clip. Like the Reddit had it. Bro, it's actually so funny 'cause you realize that like Dwayne The Rock like talks like fucking Homelander in this scene. You're like, you must realize you sound insane. Maybe there's, it's a very short clip. - Right, but- - It's so funny, we gotta watch it.

- No, no, no, no, it's a video. I watched the video. - Wait, did Oppenheimer come out this year? - No. - No. - That was last year. - Last July. - Fucking hell. - It's a type video, type video. - Yeah, I know. - Maybe it's that one minute one. I don't know.

- Yeah, fuck it. - Yeah, everything I think came out this year was last year. - Yeah, everything that I'm like, yo, that was okay, maybe I'm wrong. Maybe there are some good films. No, okay, that's last year. All right, ignore what I said. It was me with anime, dude. Every year I'm like, oh yeah, that came out this year. - Maybe I'm like, am I willing into existence a video that didn't exist? Is it an article?

- I don't know, man. I believe you though. That sounds like some pretentious shit. - Yeah, he said, yeah, I'm just like, this is insane. It looks like ass. I saw it advertised in the cinema and I was like, this looks like the worst piece of garbage ever. And then he, he, he, he see the controversy that was like, he was like, nah, I don't piss on bottles on sets. - What? - Yeah, he had to like, he had to like say that he doesn't piss in bottles on sets. - Good for you. - Yeah, I don't know. I don't know. - Who asked? - Yeah, I don't know. It's strange. It's strange.

- Yeah, I've watched a lot of old movies this year as well though. Older movies, watched "Beetlejuice" for the first time. - Oh yeah? - Banger. - Actually that's a new movie. Wait, did that come out this year? - Yeah, this year. - The new "Beetlejuice"? - Yeah. - Yeah. - It's good. - Really? - It was actually good. We thought it was kind of gonna be ass again because it's like- - Why did they remake it though?

- It's a sequel. - It's a sequel. - Yeah, the reviews are not great. So I wasn't like too super. - Look, there was obviously problems with it and I definitely prefer the first movie, but it wasn't as bad as I thought it was gonna be, which I was like, thank God. - Damn raving reviews. - I know, raving reviews. - The reviews was really fun though. - I am gonna say though, I don't get the hype on "General Ortega."

I just don't think she's a very good actress, if I'm being honest. - Wolf Jacks, Willem Dafoe's in the new movie? - Oh yeah, yeah, yeah. - Is he weird? I fucking love Willem Dafoe. - Yeah, he plays like a zombie movie star cop. - Fuck yeah. - Yeah, and he's just funny. - I love Willem Dafoe. - But yeah, if you liked the first movie, it's fun.

- I just want more Robert Pattinson. That's what the world needs. It could heal us if he does more weird movies. Dude, I just love his weird movies. They're so good. - Yeah. I mean, his weird movies are great. Okay, now that time is fast. Is "Deadpool and Wolverine" - "Dead Weird" - "Dead Weird" "Deadpool and Wolverine" I haven't seen that yet. Is that worth the hype? - I haven't seen it either. - Have you seen it? - Yeah, I've watched it. I've watched it twice.

- It's, I mean, you know what you're getting. - Yeah, right. - If you like Deadpool and you like Hugh Jackman, you will like this movie. - It looks like the most seven out of 10 movie. - It will pass three hours and you will maybe chuckle once or twice. You will also think it is kind of annoying 'cause some of the jokes are just not funny. And that's the problem with Deadpool is that some jokes are kind of like, huh, that's funny. And other jokes are like, oh.

- Yeah. - Yeah. - Spiral. - And I mean, I think one thing that you can at least say is that fucking Ryan Reynolds and Hugh Jackman give it their fucking all. That's one thing that I'll give Ryan Reynolds credit for. That's about it. I think the villains and everyone else in it is kind of eh. And there's that whole like, there's like a whole like fucking big cameo section where if you like those characters and you know them, it's like great. But if you don't give a fuck, you're like,

- Yeah, 'cause I think I had this realization. - It's bad. - Yeah, it seems like. - Like I've really enjoyed the Spider-Man film. I forgot which Spider-Man it was. Far From Home or what's the latest one? - The latest one? The latest one was, fuck. There's one with the meme where everywhere I look I see you.

- What? - The fucking meme where he's looking at the sign and then everyone used that as a meme template. - Oh yeah, yeah, yeah. - Not into the Spiderverse. - The damn web. - No way. - Far From Home, which one? Wait, the one with all the Spider-Mans? - Yeah, the one with all the Spider-Mans. - Far From Home, yeah. - I generally really, really enjoyed the Spider-Man.

And then I realized, I think everything I enjoyed about the Spider-Man was my love of shit that had happened in the past as opposed to anything this franchise had built up for itself. - Like the movie didn't do anything crazy new.

- It was like a celebration of Spider-Man. - It was a celebration of Spider-Man, which is great. And I had a great fucking time and it closed off the storylines of like the previous Spider-Man. - Oh, it was not far from home. We are wrong, sorry. - Okay, it was "No Way Home." - "No Way Home." - Why are there so many fucking homes? Stop. God, these names suck. - Spider-Man, "No Way Home." And I realized everything I love about this film

From like the villains to like the Spider-Man about it. It's a celebration of the Spider-Man franchise as a whole. And everything I loved about it was...

built on the entire legacy. Whereas you look at Spider-Man across the Spider-Verse or like the animated films and you're like, I love this film because of the shit this film did. - Yes. - As opposed to this film, Spider-Man No Way Home where I love this film because of the shit, 'cause all the shit the previous film has done. - Is what it's based on. - Of the legacy it's based on, not what it actually has done itself. - When the series is so long as Spider-Man, I think,

- It's okay to, you're allowed one. - It's okay to have films like this. My point was that it feels like there are so many films nowadays that are going for this kind of appeal. - Oh yeah. - Where my point was that every film is like, it feels like instead of trying to build something new, like you can take a pre-existing franchise and build something new like Spider-Verse across the animated films have done. But it feels like more and more,

the appeal of them is trying to build on its own, it's like previous legacy rather than trying to start a new one. - Well, I think it's because filmmakers realize that there's less risk when you just bank off of nostalgia than actually making something completely original and flopping. - I hope, I hope.

- Benedict Cumberbatch is freed from having to play Doctor Strange. - Yeah, I feel like that's all I've seen him do. - I just, oh man. - I remember when he was in other movies. - He's still in a lot of stuff to be fair. - Yeah, but no one cares. - But I just don't enjoy his performance as Doctor Strange. And I feel like he is a good actor. - He is a great actor. - And he is much better when he gets to do more traditional kind of...

what you would expect of like a theater actor to do. - Yeah, which is why it like really, really, really fucking worried me when they announced that Dr. Doom was gonna be played by Robert Downey Jr. again. And I'm like, okay, you are doing to me, I see that. And I'm like, you are doing exactly the same thing where you are banking on your not anything that you're doing now, you are banking on your legacy once again. And of course, I think he's gonna,

be a great villain, he's gonna be a, 'cause I fucking love Robert Downey Jr. He's gonna be a great villain, probably a great character as well in the film. But again, I'm probably gonna go out of it same way as Spider-Man No Way Home where I'm like, okay, I like this film because of the legacy, not because of anything you're doing now. - It's insane to me that he was even an option.

- I don't understand. - He's already one huge superhero guy. - Yeah, I don't understand. - Was there really no other actor? - That is like literally the,

- If the Simpsons had wrote this as a punchline, we'd all make fun of it as being like a shit joke. You know what I mean? Like it would be such a boring joke to do. - Playing as Iron Man, Green Lantern, Doctor Doom, Night Morgue, it's Robert Downey Jr. - It's so lazy. And it's like, to me, there is no bigger slap in the face to like fans of just Marvel. Not that I'm a fan of Marvel anyway, 'cause I had no respect for Marvel films anyway now.

If you're a Marvel fan and you still are like excited, I haven't, you worry me. - I don't get it. - Go and watch "Shawshank Redemption" or something. Like I used to. - Yeah. - My fucking God, you have to be like, your brain must be like in a vegetative state to want to watch Robert Downey Jr. play a different character in a Marvel series.

- My God, I just can't think of a worse thing. - Yeah, so- - I'm sure he'll be fine, but it's like, why? - So- - And it's like, am I gonna watch it? Probably not. - Yeah, so all this to really build on my original question of just like, Deadpool versus Wolverine. Does it do something new or is it building on the legacy of like Hugh Jackman as Wolverine? - What do you think? - I genuinely, that's one of the reasons I didn't go and watch it 'cause I was like- - I mean, if anything, it probably like takes away a little bit from the ending of Logan.

- Oh really? - It just seems like fan service, the movie. - I mean, if you like N'Sync, it's good, 'cause he does the dance and that's funny. And that's humor. - Yeah, yeah, I mean. - I'm gut busting. - And like the Trash Taste, talks about a lot of karma. - I'm sure I would go out to watch Deadpool and Wolverine, 'cause I was a huge fan of like the original Fox,

X-Men series, you know, there's some stinkers, but. - The thing about watching, like when we were talking about X-Men 97, when you watch X-Men, you're like, wait, this is so much more fucking interesting than any of these Marvel heroes. Like all of these powers and character dynamics are so interesting. And then we just get the same fucking three Marvel, sorry, X-Men characters in every film. You're like, oh my God.

- Wow, okay. Modern Hollywood. - It's gone to shit. - It's gone to shit. - The wokies have ruined Hollywood. - He's bad now. Creatively bankrupt. That's why I watch anime. - Let us know what you think about our takes in movies and did you want to turn off this podcast many times? Let us know. - I wanted to.

- I like how we at the end turned into the most stereotypical dude bro podcast. - That's why I hate talking about Marvel 'cause it's like, I have nothing to add other than I don't like it. And I could sit here for nine hours explaining why I don't like it 'cause I watch every fucking film that comes out and I'm the problem. - Yeah. - Yeah. You're buying into this shit. - Well, I watch it 'cause I just wanna have more shit to hate on.

- I watch it because I genuinely enjoyed it at one point. - Me too. - I genuinely enjoyed it at one point and I'm hoping we could go, there's part of me that just wants movies to be that exciting for me again.

- Because I fucking love movies. I love media. I love the shit. There are good movies. You just got to fucking go digging for them now, unfortunately. - Well, let us know, was there any recent films that you guys really enjoyed and recommend for us to watch? - What's your favorite film of all time? - What's your favorite film? Because- - Let us know. - Let us know. - Hey, look at all these patrons though.

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