We rated the Top Ranked Anime's on MAL | Trash Taste #186
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- Hello everyone, welcome back to another episode of Trash Taste. I'm your host Joey and I'm with my weeby friends Connor and Garnt because today we are gonna be talking about anime.

- How on brands that the anime man is hosting the anime episode of Trash Taste. - Said no one. - So, Shelley, what are we doing today? - Today, we're gonna be doing something very, very simple. You guys might know of a website called MyAnimeList. Pretty well used by the online anime community. But did you know that MyAnimeList is not only a website that is used to catalog the shows you've watched or dropped. - It's like an ad for it.

- But also this is not an ad by the way. - I feel like I'm in an anime man video right now. - I'm just good at explaining things. - Holy shit, Joey still got it. Joey still got it.

- MyAnimeList is not just the website where you can like catalog shows you've watched, dropped, planned to watch all that kind of stuff. But they also have lists that are based on community popularity. So today we decided we're gonna be going to the MyAnimeList top 50 anime series of all time, according to the people on MyAnimeList and see if we agree or disagree with what is on this list. 'Cause we all have- - I'm already like, what the fuck?

- We all have differing opinions on it and this list does change quite frequently. - Yeah. - I haven't seen this list in a very, very long time. - I have not seen this list in a very, very long time either. So we decided to begin with, we're gonna start with the top rated and then see what the most, and then after we go through the top rated,

We'll see what the most popular ones are. - Yes, because that's different. - See if there's any correlation between the top rated anime list of all time and the most popular anime of all time. - No, no, so I was gonna say like to discern the difference, top rated is basically people can vote out of like 10 stars.

of like how good they thought the shows were. And then they take the total average of that, of everyone who voted on it and then put it on a top 50. Most popular is people can, I think on my anime list is like a list of like where people can add anime to like their favorite shows. And it's based on how many people or how many users put it in their favorite shows list. So it's a little bit different.

- So I think for the top rated, I think we should go through the list and see what our ratings would be after we discuss it. - Sure, let's see if we agree or disagree. - Or disagree. - All I'm saying is thank God I'm wearing this comfortable ass merch for this list. 'Cause otherwise I don't know if I'd be ready to throw some heat. - I think it's off to think this merch is on store anymore. - Oh yeah, fuck.

But if you were there when it was available, then you'll know how amazing this stuff is. - Why do we have it everywhere? - Just 'cause it looks sick. - Okay. - It just looks good. - But don't worry, there'll be more merch to come in the future. So let's check out this top anime series list. - Already? - Already. I'm about to throw hands. - Can I say that this is my least favorite trend in the anime community. When people like a show a lot, a new show is airing, they're like, "Let's get it to the top of my anime list."

Let's all go and write 10 stars. And all it does is invite people to be like, you guys are fucking idiots. - Yeah. - No, I feel like here's the marketing strat, right?

You make a new anime. How do you gain hype? You make a bunch of bots because at the time of this recording, "So So No Free Rent" has not finished airing. We're about 12 episodes? - About halfway. - About halfway through at the time of this recording. - So how the fuck could it be a 9.1 too? - And so here's the threat. You release a new anime, make some bots, upvote your favorite anime. It gets a bunch of votes.

above Full Metal Alchemist Brotherhood. People start talking about it. Free marketing is the infinite hype glitch. - I mean, that's where we are now. - It's so sad that that's the only way you can get people to start fucking watching your show nowadays. - So, Ron, I think you're the only one of us who's currently watched the show. - Yes, I've watched the show and I've read the manga as well.

- I've also read the manga as well. - Yeah, this is a great show. - And it is a very, very, very good show. I'm enjoying it a lot. - Likewise, yeah. - I don't think it's the best show of all time. I don't even think it's the best show of the year. I would argue that it might not even be the best show of the season. - I think it's an incredibly solid show, but I wouldn't even put it in the top 50, if I'm being completely honest. - What would beat it this season do you think potentially?

- Probably "Egypt's Sky" too. - Which let's be real, we're gonna see eventually on this list. - We're gonna see. - If "Free Rent" is number one, we're gonna see it on this list. - But I mean, I fucking love "Free Rent." I don't wanna like make it seem like I'm shitting on "Free Rent." - Yeah, you're just saying that this is overblown. - This is clearly recency bias. - Yeah, because here's the thing that I don't,

I don't understand where people will see like one or two episodes. And then I remember when Oshinoko as well, I don't know if this is going to be the list. - They did the same thing. - Where one episode release and everyone was just like. - Greatest anime of all time. - 10 out of 10 masterpiece. - They said that about like Chainsaw Man as well. They said that about like a lot of the big fucking hype as fuck shows. - I feel like it's a right of power

for a show to get fully hype, to beat Fullmetal Alchemist Brotherhood as the top rated show on MAL. And every hype new show needs to go through that rite of passage. - Yeah, totally. - But like Fullmetal Alchemist is the final boss.

- It really is. It's like the undefeated boss. - Unfortunately, you have to be afraid of the old man and the job surrounded by new kids. 'Cause he probably knows what's up. - I always like to say that the Full Metal Alchemist Brotherhood is like the Ocarina of Time equivalent to anime.

where it's like, obviously people love it. A lot of people claim it as a masterpiece, like a 10 out of 10 show. And there'll always be like that one new show that just people are talking about more, people are trying to like, yeah, it gets challenges like the King. But at the end of the day, people are still gonna come to that agreement in the long run of no, but that's still the goal. - Yeah, I think "Free Run" is a very, very good show. It has one of the best kind of like, here's the biggest thing that surprised me about "Free Run", which is, it's kind of like

it marketed itself as like a very emotional gripping show. And then it has these banger action scenes that just come out of nowhere. What it reminded me was, do you remember when you watch like a slice of life Kyoto animation show, like Maid Dragon or something?

And then out of nowhere, there would just be this like fucking banger action scene that nobody asked for, but nobody's gonna complain about, but they did not have to go that hard. That is free-range. - Like Toru and Kanna fighting. - Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. - I was like, this does not include, this doesn't feel right in the show, but I'm here for it. - Outside of "Jujutsu Kaisen," this has some of the best action scenes I've seen all year. And it's a fucking fantasy show. - It's a beautifully written story, beautiful show. - This is the top 50 list.

If you ballpark, you're making a top 50. Would "Freedom" be in the top 50? - No, as I said earlier, I absolutely love the show. I love the manga. I think it's a very refreshing show, especially in this day and age. But I just, I don't think I'd even put it in the top 50. Top 100, maybe, but not in the top 50.

- I would have possibly top 50. It's too early to tell right now. - Yeah, I mean, it's not even fucking finished. I hate this. Why do they do this? - I think it has potential. - I've caught up with the manga, so I'm a lot further ahead in the story. So I know what's to come in the anime, but, and I love the direction that the manga is going in right now, but like,

I just, I don't know. I feel like this is gonna be one of those like solid shows that you'll remember for a long time. But when you think of like the pinnacle of anime. - Yeah. - How can you call this the goat of anime when it's not even done? - Right. - Yeah. My biggest concern with "Free Run" right now is I'm afraid that the plot is going to drag. I feel like it has such a

good idea as an opening. It's opening like kind of scenes and opening ideas are so fucking good and they made me cry. I'm wondering how long it can carry on with the idea of just like this being like a immortal elf and seeing the eyes of like the world through this immortal elf. I'm seeing, I'm gonna give it the benefit of the doubt and see and hope that it can continue being as good as it has been. - Fantastic show, please watch it, but it's not number one.

- Not number one, but right of passage. - Let's talk about the real goats. - I'm happy 'cause for the once in our life, I can talk about anime that Garnt hasn't. - Okay, a question to you. Since Fullmetal Alchemist Brotherhood has been just like the long standing king of the MyAnimeList list, do you think it deserves to be the number one spot?

- I'm gonna pull a trash taste and I'm gonna talk about a show I haven't seen. I'm just completely- - You know what's fucked up is that you're so good about talking about anime, you probably say more about the show than I can. And I've watched the thing. - Okay, can I say my opinion before we end? - Sure. - All right, so like,

- It has some of like, for its time, it has some of the like best animation for like some of the fight scenes. Like that fight where Hughes does like the fucking, is it Hughes? That's his name, right?

Okay, I'm just gonna team talk. That guy went- - I just wanna see where you're going. - The fire guy does- - Roy Mustang. - Oh yeah, Roy Mustang. Oh yeah, Hughes is like the dad. Yeah, right? That's, Hughes is the dad. So like that was like, he's such a cool character that everyone likes. - When did you think it became shit? 'Cause if you're a trash taste, it's under you. - Okay, so like- - Randomly says shit halfway through. - I mean like, I don't think it was shit. I just think it was like overrated, right? - Okay, all right. - So like the- - What are you, me? - The Edward brothers?

- Like, you know, they had some really, really good writing. - Did you call them the Edward brothers? - It's the Elric brothers. - Edward is one character. You know, Edward, Edward and Alphonse Edward. - Mario, Mario, Luigi, Mario. - Yeah, it's Edward, Edward. That's the brothers. - The Mario brothers. They are called the Mario brothers, right? - Yeah, it's Mario, Mario, Luigi, Mario. - That's so fucked up. - Yeah.

- The Edward brothers, go on. - The Edward brothers. I think it started to fall off with the dog scene. - Nina. - Yeah, Nina, Nino, whatever her name is. The dog scene, that was just, that was like, they were trying too hard. Of course it was gonna be sad. Of course the dog scene was gonna be sad, guys, of course. - I feel like I'm reading r/anime right now. - But it did have some banger fights.

Roy Mustang popped off when he did the fire thing against one of the- - And then when he cries in the rain and he's like, "It's a bad day for rain." - Oh, that too. That was, that was, oh, that's- - It kind of feels like, it's like just saying like when you do a top food list of all time, you're like pizza number one. You're like, yeah, yeah, I mean, I guess. I mean like that's,

Like no one's gonna say no, but you kind of feel like you wish you had a more exciting answer for number one. - Right. - You know what I mean? 'Cause Fullmetal Alchemist is, it feels like such a complete experience in every way. And it feels like it nails everything it wants to do. - I think what definitely helped as well with Brotherhood to push it into that status of like, I guess the pizza equivalent of anime where like everybody likes it and you can't really complain that it's your favorite is the fact that

it came right after like the original Fullmetal, which had a bunch of problems. - Which I watched that one first. - Yeah, right. And so did I, right? And so like, because you kind of had the full, not to say that the original Fullmetal anime is bad or anything, but they definitely fixed a lot of the issues the original had in Brotherhood. And I think that,

that whole like fixing the issues type of thing to make it more of a perfect package, I think kind of shifted the way that people view Brotherhood in like as a series by itself. But like, I don't know, maybe this is just me, but like to me, Full Metal Alchemist Brotherhood is

in a bit of a bias spot because this for a lot of people was the first introduction to anime, right? Like I think when a lot of people think of like Fullmetal Alchemist Brotherhood or they think of like starting to get into anime. - It does pay to be one of the first animes you watch. - Yeah. - You look at it with a- - And obviously, you know, a lot of people are recommending it because they think it's a great show. And I think it's also a great show. - It's a safe recommendation. - It is. It's a safe recommendation. - Here's the thing though. Okay. Let's say Free Run didn't exist in this month or whatever. - Yeah. - And Fullmetal Alchemist is still on top.

can you name a show that deserves to be, not necessarily one that you like more, but can you put a show above Full Metal Alchemist Brotherhood that deserves that number one spot? - That's the hard thing. - Yeah. - I can't.

- I personally think of a show that I think deserves to be on there. - Yeah, if you take away all personal bias towards this show, it really is the perfect show that anybody can watch. And you could have watched a hundred shows, a thousand shows, zero shows, and you will most likely come out of Brotherhood being like, that was a really good show because it is a really good show.

- I personally wouldn't put it as number one. But I think in terms of the overall anime viewing experience for every type of anime fan out there, it is the safest pick. And that's why I understand why it's the number one position. - Okay, question number two. Do you think that Full Metal Alchemist Brotherhood would be as, let's say,

- As beloved. - If it came out now. - If it came out now. - No. - Because I think, I think, and this is me talking out complete speculation, having not seen Brotherhood. I think that "Fullmetal Alchemist: Brotherhood" came out at a perfect time where we didn't have this whole, not exactly toxicity, but the whole kind of like mid era of anime. Where you know what I'm talking about? Where this is,

- Everyone has pure, nice nostalgia when they look at Fullmetal Alchemist Brotherhood. 'Cause no one was really, it came out at a time where anime fans weren't really as competing with each other as much as like they are now. - Yeah, they were just happy to watch any show at that point. - I think it also came out at a time when the internet was really allowing kind of, to watch anime a lot easier. And I think,

obviously people were looking for the newest and greatest show. And I think it came out at a time that was literally perfect. It came out in the anime era where everyone was just happy to meet anyone who liked anime. It took advantage of the internet. In English as well, it had a fantastic dub, which immediately helped it with Western fans. 'Cause back then, you know, a lot of people watched dubs.

Yeah, and I think it's kind of in the same way Fullmetal Alchemist Brotherhood, I think, is a lot similar to Cowboy Bebop in that sense, where the general, I guess, niceties and acclaim that it got was mostly from Western fans.

Like obviously, Fullmetal Alchemist was huge in Japan when it came out as well, obviously. But Fullmetal Alchemist is not talked about as fondly amongst Japanese fans as it is with Western fans. - That's true. Every time I talk about people with anime, it never comes up. - When you mentioned Fullmetal Alchemist, they're just like, "Oh, I haven't heard that in a while."

You know, it's kind of one of those shows where people look fondly back at it, but they don't, it's not in the constant, you know, zeitgeist of talking about shows that were huge at the time. It was just another, at the end of the day, I think to a lot of Japanese anime fans who were around when Fullmetal was around, it was just,

another really solid Shonen show. - Yeah, because I personally think that Fullmetal Alchemist for the Western community, which is what my anime list is, it came out at the perfect time and it was the complete package, which was very rare for anime at the time. And it's now looked back, back in the day, its biggest competition was probably something like the big three and the big three were just fighting against each other on who was most popular around the big three, where we had, and then on like the side,

kind of like place we had Fullmetal Alchemist coming up being like, hey, this is another Shonen that is a complete package unlike these other big long running Shonen. And it's very well written and it's finished. And people will look back at that fondly. - Yeah, it also helps that it was only 64 episodes where if you compare it to the big three, it was obviously for new anime watches, it was a lot harder to get into Naruto or Bleacher one piece at a time. Whereas Fullmetal,

If you tried, you could finish it in a few days. - Yeah, because I, you know, when it comes to the question of, can I think of an anime that deserves to go above Fullmetal Alchemist? And I'm saying this having not like watched it, but only come only knowing about its legacy and thinking about if Fullmetal Alchemist Brotherhood came out today. I think Fullmetal Alchemist Brotherhood, if it came out today, it would have a similar reception to something like Attack on Titan.

To me, Attack on Titan is the modern day equivalent of an anime package that is now, it is a complete package. And now there is a lot more anime coming out. There's a lot more competition. To me as like an anime viewer, I think Attack on Titan is one of the greatest modern anime to come out.

- Yeah, and I think the only reason why Attack on Titan is not above Full Metal Alchemist Brotherhood in this list is because it came out incrementally in multiple seasons. - Yeah, I also kinda hate that this list doesn't like rate the whole series. - Yeah, 'cause if Attack on Titan was put under just Attack on Titan, like one name on this list, I think it would be above Full Metal. - I don't think so. - I don't think so. - Or it would be very close. - Because there are more haters of Attack on Titan. - Yeah, it's not about like how,

- But I think that's because it came out at a time where anime fans have become so much more critical, so much more nitpicky with their shows. - Well, I think if "Attack on Titan" had all wrapped up in 2012, it'd probably be up. I think it'd be up. - Yeah. - It'd be ahead of- - But also again, I think, yeah. And I think as well, like, because like, you know, with "Attack on Titan" it did take such a long time. And during that time, the anime community really

shifted to being more nitpicky, you know, where manga readers would be very critical of the anime adaptations and just getting very, you know, looking at the finer details way too much. I feel the only reason why people don't do that with Brotherhood, because at the end of the day, Brotherhood is not a perfect show. Like there are problems with it, I think. - No one ever talks about it though. - But that's the thing. - I've never- - But that's the thing, people don't wanna talk about it because it's nostalgic to some people. - 'Cause I've never heard someone call "Foolmaser Alchemist Brotherhood" mid.

You know, I've just like- - I mean, it's not, it's a great fucking- - But like- - But it's not perfect. - But like, I think the biggest thing between let's say "Four Metal Alchemist" and "Attack on Titan" is "Four Metal Alchemist" anime was never reached the heights of popularity during that era as the "Attack on Titan" era.

And Attack on Titan, number one, had way more competition for high profile anime to go up against. So you have this kind of like competitiveness between a big high profile show that's released nowadays versus a big high profile show that released back in the day. And I think for that reason, I don't,

think in the Western anime community we will ever get another show that will be looked at with as critical claim as Full Metal Arcturus Brotherhood. - This is proof of concept, right? That this is a 13, 14 year old show and it's still highly regarded as one of the greatest shows ever made. - They don't have a skin in Fortnite, so. And Thunk Time does, so. - Yeah, yeah. - Who's the real winner? - Wake me up when Alphonse is fucking.

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that Steins Gate was this highly rated because I fucking love Steins Gate, don't get me wrong, but I just don't see it as a show that has just as much of a mainstream appeal as Brotherhood.

- I don't think this is mainstream though. This is MyAnimeList. - Yeah. So MyAnimeList has this weird kind of thing that I noticed that I'm sure will keep coming to this list. Certain shows get rated very highly amongst people who spend their time on this website. And I think Steins;Gate is pretty much the peak example of a perfect MyAnimeList viewer show.

- That is true. - My anime list fans are like what Rick and Morty fans were like five years ago. Where they're like, you don't have a big enough eye to understand. - You're not smart enough to understand Steins Gate. - And I kind of think like in a weird way, Steins Gate appeals very much to the kind of person who enjoys using my anime list and like kind of internet forums. - Yeah, yeah. - Not to say it's not a good show, but I think that it's a show that I think would rate very highly amongst people like that.

- Yeah, because I feel like my anime list is the perfect representation of someone who is like one tier

like goes one tier deeper than let's say like the shown and mega popular shows. So it's at like that second tier of like, okay, this is what happens after you explore anime when you have just gone out of like mega popular show names, but not so much you haven't reached the deeper tier of just like the, Ooh, I'm watching all, you know, - Something cerebral. - I'm gonna keep in mind, right? This is like a social network.

So people feel like almost judged based on what they're presenting. So, you know, when you have a list where you can't have Steins;Gate, you can't have not watched Steins;Gate. You can't have it at a 10. - I guess there is that social pressure. - So we have to really think about how this interacts in this sense. And I think Steins;Gate is an example where I think if you say you've watched this and you don't rate it highly, then there's something wrong with you. - What would you rate Steins;Gate out of 10? - Got feeling, go on. - Got feeling, I would give it like a nine, I think.

- The only reason, well, what would you put it? - So can we do decimal points? - Okay, fine. - Okay, if we're going decimal points, I give it like an 8.5. - Yeah, same, 8.5. - I think the start of Steins;Gate is too slow. - Yes. - And it really hurts the show in general. - This is definitely not a show I think that, it's difficult to recommend, right? Because obviously the first 10, 11 episodes are so incredibly slow and it really is like- - We've started watching it.

- I have tried rewatching it, yes. - It's tough. - Yeah. - It's really tough to rewatch. - It's really tough. Even though I know everything that's happening and I know the reason why they're taking their time with it, because obviously it's all necessary information and details that pays off in the second half and especially the ending. - Yeah.

having that kind of format in anime, I think is a format that just doesn't really work nowadays because people, I just think have, I don't want to say they have less of an attention span or anything, but I think the whole appeal of slow burner shows is slowly dying out. - You can do slow burns, but you have to really be smart with how you do it nowadays.

- Slow burn shows- - What is a recent slow burner show that was like- - Free Run. - Free Run is a slow burner, right? - Free Run is a slow burner. - Okay, yeah, we have Free Run. - It's like slow burn is such like a, to me it feels like such a back out and compliment. - Yeah. - You know what I mean? Where I can't say it in a positive way. - But also slow burn could also mean like, hey, they trust you as a viewer to stay with these people just maybe just talking.

- Yeah. - Oh, and that is Steins;Gate to the T. - 'Cause to me there's a difference between let's say something that is a slow burn and something that's let's say has a slower pace but is still compelling. To me like, you know- - Game of Thrones is just talking. - Yeah, yeah, yeah, exactly. - That's the best of Game of Thrones when they're just talking and you're just like, whoa, the drama here.

- Yeah, where there is a lot of drama there and there is not so much happening in terms of like plot progression, but it's just compelling to watch, right? Whereas with Steins;Gate, the first half, I feel that this to me is just slow. It's not like I can see the characters, I'm not so much compelled with what's happening, there's not so much plot progression, but I'm not as invested. And then it hits you about halfway through and then there's this point that it grabs you and it just does not let go.

To me, I wouldn't call it a slog, but it's definitely not as enjoyable. - I'd call it a slog. - Would you call it a slog? I can't remember. - I distinctly remember I had downloaded to watch it. - Yeah. - I had it and I had a few other shows to watch. And every single time I tried to watch it, I couldn't finish the first episode without being like,

- See, for me it was like- - And then I eventually did get around to doing it. - Yeah. - But it was tough. - For me it gets tough around like episode six or seven. - It's so tough. - 'Cause like the first couple of episodes, okay- - It's exciting, the phone. - You understand, yeah, you understand because there's so much new information that they're throwing to the viewer, right? Like, oh, we have the microwave, we have the banana, we have the phone. - And then nothing fucking happens.

And then around episode six or seven is when you start to get the point where it's like, is this gonna be like this for the entire series? I get it like the first couple of episodes are slow and then it starts picking up. But when you get like six, seven episodes deep and it's going at that pace, then you're just like, oh, I'm starting to lose a bit of faith that anything interesting is going to happen. And then obviously around, I think it was episode 12 or 13, that thing happens. - That's crazy. But this is also different 'cause anime used to be just longer.

- Well, yeah. - So I feel like if "Steins;Gate" came out now, I almost think it could be even better because they'd probably have like a 13, 15 episode run. - They cut out all the bullshit. - Bullshit, maybe they get through it faster. Maybe they actually do cut stuff that maybe did actually just slow down the story. - Let's see, then I would argue, will the impact be the same? - I think it could. I think the impact could be the same. I don't think you have to give as much time.

for it to have the same impact. - I don't know. Maybe I'm wrong though. I could be totally wrong. - To me- - I watched this like fucking eight years ago. - Yeah, I wanna get the opinion of someone like an anime viewer today who has never seen the show. - Here's the thing. I don't think- - We'll make it to the- - Here's the thing. We watched it like eight or so years ago, right? - Yeah, 2011. - It was less anime. The top list back then was 50 max. - Yeah. - Yeah, yeah.

- Okay, I can actually feasibly watch all of the greats anime. - Yeah, and I still think in this day, after the turning point, it still would like hit as hard, but I think the beginning portions would be even like, it would have aged even worse than when we watched it.

Because this came out at a time when let's say otaku kind of like, otaku culture shows weren't as prevalent in like the anime community, right? Do you remember this? And it was like, it was kind of fun. The big appealing part for me with "Steins;Gate" the beginning part was that, oh, it's like set in Akihabara. Yo, they're weebs, yo. This guy's a 4chan-er, yo. - Okabe would be a bit cringe nowadays. - He would be a bit cringe. - Yeah, yeah, yeah. To me,

- Steins Gate, the characters are so fucking anime. - Yeah, they are. - You know what I mean?

- Oh yeah, Mayushi, oh my God. - They're just very, very, very anime. - Also the first show that burned the cicada noise into my brain. - I totally agree. But like one thing I do think has aged well is that to this day, I can't think of any or many other shows that they have time travel as like a mechanic and it feels like they tie up

every single knot in its own time travel mechanic. - Oh yeah. - In a satisfying way. - It was an incredibly well thought out story and the ending is very satisfying. - It was originally a visual novel? - Yeah, it was a visual novel. - If you fucking feel it in the start, that's for sure. - Yeah, yeah. Because like even with something like, you know, "Attack on Titan" or most other time travel shows, there's like, you can think of like some plot holes. You watch it and you're like, "Ah, that kind of didn't make sense." But after watching "Steins;Gate," I can't think of any other time travel show where I thought to myself,

Man, that just made sense. They covered everything. - I guess 'cause it was the only kind of mechanic in the show that they were exploring, which really allows you to get really interesting with it. - Yeah, also they based a lot of the ideas off of the previous game in the semi-colon series, which is Chaos Head, which is- - Semi-colon series? - That is what it's called, it's the semi-colon universe. So 'cause they had Chaos Head, Steins;Gate, Robotics Notes,

and they're all done by the same company. And like a lot of the ideas from Steins Gate were based off Chaos Head. Chaos Head is not good, by the way, don't watch it. - Do you think Steins Gate is overrated then? - I think it's pretty good.

- I think it's probably rated, but then again, that might be my nostalgia talking because I remember when this was airing and I would watch this weekly and it was the most insane shit. - You watched it weekly? - Yeah, this was the most insane shit I'd ever watched.

- Just hearing you talk about anime then, especially the semi colon series, I don't even know what that was. If we did Trash Taste 10 years ago, how much of a different show this would have been? - It would actually be an anime podcast. - You'd be such a nerd, dude. - Dude, I haven't brought up the semi colon series in a long time. I know my shit. Also, I will say the fucking Steins Gate opening, still a banger. I don't care what anyone says. Fucking hacking to the gate. - How does that go?

- 'Cause to me, Full Metal Alchemist, the fucking Brotherhood, the first opening. - Again by Yui? - Yeah, that was a banger. - Even I know that one. - That was an iconic banger. - That was like, - Is that the one? - Yeah, yeah, that's it. - Okay. - I think, is it?

- I don't want to see it 'cause copyright. - I know Joey loves Gintama. - Joey's the only man who's watched Gintama. - Also, is this season four or season five of Gintama? - Oh no, Gintama didn't do, be doing Gintama things. - I hate that they never called like-

- Gintama is literally half of this list. Can we just wrap it all up into one? - Yeah, okay. - Gintama, okay, yeah. - We'll do the same with Attack on Titan as well. - There's a ton of Gintama in this top 10. - Gintama for me, the way I view Gintama as a complete outsider and only seeing clips is like,

- They're what JoJo fans were before JoJo fans just got a little too annoying publicly. You know what I mean? - You are so right actually. - JoJo fans just went a little too much with their love of JoJo and pissed off the internet. Whereas Gintama fans have just been at the perfect level of fandom. - They've just been teasing the edge. - Whenever you mention Gintama, bro, they appear. The fans, they mention it and they are exactly like JoJo fans except they didn't get too annoying and they don't have the dick sucking.

- No, no, no, no. I think it's because Gintama never got to the same level of popularity as JoJo did. - It's the quiet like army of fans that just every time you say the gin in Gintama, they're just like, "Did someone mention my favorite show?" - They have the exact same vibe as pre-JoJo fans. - Yeah, I think so. I think one thing, I mean, I fucking love Gintama. I grew up with this shit.

I think the one thing I really respected about Gintama, especially while it was coming out is that- - It's over, right? - Yeah, the manga is.

or I guess he's continuing on a different magazine or something. I don't know. Sorachi is a fucking troll. He can do whatever the fuck he wants. But essentially what I loved about Gintama was that it started off obviously as an episodic comedy series where like each episode would have its own self-contained story. Characters will be introduced and there'd just be, it was basically a gag manga.

But then a couple of chapters in, a couple of volumes in, excuse me, they introduced like an actual story element that was incredibly serious that actually explored each of the characters' backstories and relationships because there's a shitload of characters in Gintama. But Sorachi does a really good job of connecting all of these characters that don't seem like they were purposefully written to be connected. Like, you know, when sometimes you read a story and it's,

it just makes sense that these characters know each other or have this relationship. And it doesn't seem like someone has purposefully written it to make sense. I think Gin Tama is a great example of that where like, it's very, it's written in a way that where it makes it so natural for you to be like, oh yeah, of course these characters have these relationships because that's just how their characters are. And I think,

The fact that a show can be some of the most funniest shit in anime, in my opinion, while at the same time giving these incredibly heartfelt and fucking epic, like serious story elements. Like not many shows can do that, in my opinion. It's either-

- What's up? - It's like when the sitcom just has this serious moment out of nowhere and because it's like a sitcom, it just hits 10 times harder. - Exactly, right? And I think what a lot of manga have done is there's been a lot of manga that have transitioned from like starting off as a light comedy series and then becoming a serious story like "Dragon Ball", "Yu Yu Hakusho", "Karakuri Hitman Reborn", like those are all examples. But there are very few shows that can teeter back and forth between these two and not feel jarring. And I think "Gintama" is the only show

at least that I can think of that has been able to do that as effective as it did. And I think that's why it has such a hardcore fan base. - You deserve to be in the number four spot. - Well, I don't know. - Of course Joey would put it there. - I wouldn't put it at number four. It's a great show. - Is it in your top 10 personally? - It's in my top 50. For sure.

- It's in my top 100. - Bro went on a heartfelt rant about how amazing it is. He's like, "Yeah, but it's shit though." - No, no, no, it's not. It's great. - It's definitely in the top 100. - Yeah, it's definitely a thousand shows. - As much as I love this show, I can also admit that there are a couple of like,

weirder episodes, some story elements that just don't really make a whole lot of sense or were just kind of underwhelming. Like some of the villains are kind of underwhelming in my opinion. - Right, right. - If I were to go into details and stuff like that, some of the jokes can get stale as well. Like a problem with a lot of the jokes in "Gintama" is that because it was done in "Shonen Jump",

Sorachi, the creator, makes a lot of referential jokes to other Shonen Jump series. - That's what scares me about Gintama because- - And so if you don't, if you haven't read any of those or you know nothing about like the Shonen Jump lore, a lot of the jokes won't really hit the scene. - So it's an anime fan's comedy basically. - It's a Shonen Jump fan's comedy series. - Right. - What I'm hearing.

- Yeah. - This is the family guy of Shonen Jump. - Kinda, except it's a billion times funnier. - Well, I like family guy. - It's not funny. - I like family guy. - It's not funny. - I love family guy's effect on pop culture though.

- I just love the memes. - So yeah, I love Gintama, but I think number four is just, I think they just, I think the Gintama fans just rallied to be like, we gotta get Gintama up somehow. - Okay. - Yeah. - All right. Okay, well, next up is Attack on Titan. - Attack on Titan season three, part two. - We're just gonna lump it all together. - Yeah, yeah, yeah. - Yeah, we'll lump it all together. - But they do have the right season as the highest rated season. I agree that this was the high point. - That was the one where I started checking out, as I said in the episode. - What, this one?

- No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no. - This is the one with the fucking, with the monkey fight, right? - Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. - Of course you say that. - Oh, monkey fight peak, yo. - That fight was sick as fuck. - I think that entire like sequence of episodes was probably some of the most compelling pieces of anime I've ever watched. - I think it's some of the most compelling piece of television I've ever watched. - Yeah, true. It was such an amazing series. - I mean, I think if you go on the IMDB top rated

TV episodes of all time. Like I think like three or four of them are all attack on Titan episodes from this very season. - No, I believe it. 'Cause there was like four weeks. - TV episodes. - There was four weeks like back to back where like, this is the only thing anyone fucking cared about. - Yeah. - It was really impressive. - This is the season that,

- This is the season that very much, let's see the top rated TV episodes of all time. Number one, "Breaking Bad." - I almost like IMDB's lists more than my anime list. - "Attack on Titan." - "Attack on Titan," "Attack on Titan." Yeah, both of them from that season in like the top five. - These two episodes are fucking amazing. - Go down, go down.

- What else is there? - Attack on Titan. - Oh, there's Attack on Titan. - Attack on Titan. - There's quite a lot of Attack on Titan in there, yeah. - Oh, yes. - I do get chills when I think of that whole fight that happened. It was just amazing. - And just Irwin's speech and everything like that. - Oh my God, the Irwin speech is so good. - Oh my God, the Vinland Saga episode. Well, I guess we'll get into that later. - Oh, yeah, it'll be up there. - Such good episodes.

- Yeah, I'm glad that- - So many "Attack on Titan" episodes on here. - I'm glad that anime is getting its "Hunter Hunter" as well? - That's the next row episode, I believe. - Oh God, yeah. - Oh, that was- - Yeah, I'm so glad that- - Kaguya-sama?

- Oh, okay. - Demon Slayer. - Yeah, I'm really glad that anime is getting representation in IMDb. - Maybe a bit too much. - Maybe a little too much. - Maybe a little too much, yeah. - I don't think all of this anime is better than every single other TV episode of all time. - I'm surprised how many anime episodes are out there. - Okay, this is a little much now. - All right, okay, a little much. - All right, let's go back to my anime list. - Does it deserve the number five spot?

- I think that Attack on Titan does deserve to be up in the top 10 anime. - This season in particular? - Even with all my comments prior on the previous episode, I still think I'd be okay with it up there. - Yeah, I think a lot of people are going to say that it's overrated.

- Yeah, I think that Attack on Titan is- - Say nothing, you will get killed. - I'm not gonna say anything. - I think Attack on Titan is actually perfectly rated. It's like, it's one of those few shows that I feel like

I feel is really fucking good and actually got the popularity it deserves. It's very rare that- - No one gets angry at the fact that Attack on Titan is as popular as it was. - It'll also like never be in your subconscious. It'll never be a show you're like, "Oh yeah, Attack on Titan." You're like, "Oh yeah." - Oh yeah, obviously, duh. - You're always, it's impossible to get out of your mind as a series. And I think,

- Yeah, even though I said that I kind of fell off a little bit right towards the end, I still think the journey was fucking amazing. It was still very deserving of this. - Yeah, it's one of those few shows that hit the perfect storm of being appealing enough to the masses and being something like "Breaking Bad" where it's the complete package

One thing I always respect is when a story seems to be planned from the get go, which just feels so fucking rare in anime where you kind of have a cool idea and it has like cool ideas for one season. And then they kind of like go into something else. Attack on Titan felt like such a natural progression even though the final season is so different from the first season,

It never fell out of place. And that to me is fucking incredible. And it seemed like you go back to watch the beginning seasons and so much was foreshadowed about where this was going to go. - Do you want to rewatch it? - Yeah, I should. - It's one of those shows where I think

holy shit, it's so worth rewatching because right from- - I feel like I just need to binge the whole thing from the beginning. - Right from episode one, right from season one, you're like, holy shit, they're like foreshadowing season four and we didn't even know what was coming. I think "Attack on Titan" is perfectly rated. I think it should be higher than number five even.

- Another six is interesting. "Bleach: Thousand Year Blood War" arc. - Yeah, so I'm probably the only one that's watched this. - I've seen the first four episodes of it. - Does my anime list always do this? Does it always write it in the Japanese way?

- In the English Japanese way. - I guess so. - Yeah. - It's kind of weird. Why would they not just call it "A Thousand Blood Ark" on the English version? - Because that's what it's actually called. - It's just dumb though. - We're talking about the website that won't allow Scott Pilgrims to be listed as an anime, even though it was made in Japan. - It's like, I don't know.

I've gone right now, but it seems so fucking dumb. Just why put an attack on Titan? If they gave this name for it in English officially, why are we not using this? - Just call it "A Thousand Year Blood." - Does anyone really need it to be... It's like on Twitter when people go like, "Bocono Hero Academia." It's like, "Bro, just call it My Hero Academia." It's literally in the title. The title is My Hero Academia. - Yeah, and I love how they get like nitpicky with it as well. Like they'll say that about certain shows and then they'll be like,

I'm not calling Full Metal Alchemist . I'm calling it Full Metal. - It is very frustrating. This is double standard where they're like, I wanna see him like I'm really in touch with it. And it's like, shut the fuck up. They gave it a bleached thousand year fucking bullshit. Let's call it that. - Okay, so I've only ever, I've seen the first four episodes, so I can't speak on how good the entire show is. I mean, you have, right? - Yeah, I mean, there's not much to say about it. It just-

- It goes hard. I say this as not even a fan of "Bleach." The action scenes go super fucking hard. This is like movie level animation in 13 episodes. - We were hanging out with our friend. He was like, "You have to watch this." I was like, "I'm not gonna watch it."

He pulls out his phone and starts showing it. I'm like, yeah, that looks fucking cool. - Yeah. - Can you watch this without watching the rest? - No. - That's the problem when, and I think that's why- - It's the last arc, right? - Yeah, this is the last arc. And that's why I think this score is so high up because this show- - Only Bleach fans. - Yeah, yeah. - Only Bleach fans. - Only Bleach fans would have gotten this far into the story because this is like the last arc after about,

hundreds of episodes in. The animation out of nowhere, just leveled up to a point where it's some of the best action animation you could ask for. - Is it also true that they slightly changed

some parts of the story in the anime version? - I heard that Kubo has been more involved. This is all speculation, so I'm not too sure, but that might be. But I don't really, yeah, like I said, I don't really have much to say about it aside from if you're a Bleach fan, this is going to be orgasmic. And I do understand why this has- - Bleach fans said, "I wanna see some Bonkai's, goddammit." And they got it. - But number six? - But it's not number six. - It's not number six. - Is it even top 50 Bleach as a series? - No.

- Such a decisive. - I like Garnt say the crazy shit. So then I'm like, yeah, well he said. - I liked a lot of Bleach. I disliked a lot of Bleach. What would you give Bleach overall? - Okay, here's the hard thing about rating. - I've seen Bleach by the way. - Okay, here's the hard thing about rating any Shonen Jump show, right? Which is, I don't think it's,

to rate Shonen Jump shows based on an entire, let's say the entire run, right? Because I think it's more easier to rate Shonen Jump shows on ARCs. - Yeah, I can rate the ARCs for sure. - Because ARCs are so vastly different. And the thing that makes it hard to review a Shonen Jump show in its entirety is because of the way Shonen Jump is structured, right?

and focuses can often shift where shows can feel completely different. And unlike something like on "Tac on Titan" where it seemed like completely planned, sometimes it can feel like it's just keeps going on and it keeps escalating for the sole reason of it being shown in jump. Like my best example of this is "Naruto."

Where you look at the power scaling and you look at the fights at the beginning of the series and you compare it to the end of the series and they almost feel like two completely different fucking series. Whereas you look at something like Attack on Titan where, not even showing jump, I'm just using that as an example where

Titans got less threatening, but it didn't feel like it was because it got power scaled. It felt like because the more we learned about Titans, the more humans learned how to combat them. So they were still a threat by the end of the series, but they felt like less of a threat compared to the beginning series. And that felt like a more natural progression. - But would you say Bleach is in that same vein? Because when I compare say the Soul Society arc, the first arc to the Thousand Year Blood War arc,

I don't really see that big of a jump in that sense of like it feeling like two completely different shows. - Right. - Like there's obviously a lot happened in between that time and there were a lot of great arcs, a lot of shit arcs, but I think overall the "Thousand Year Blood War" arc still felt like

if that makes sense. - Okay, so I gotta ask you guys, when you read a long running Shonen or a long running show, do you sometimes get this point where you kind of like mentally check out? - Yeah. - Oh yeah. - But you keep like, everyone has this, like some people, a lot of people have this point when they kind of like, they keep reading, but they kind of like mentally check out. - Yeah, you're like, I'm reading this out of obligation. - Yeah, yeah, yeah. - I was honestly kind of like that when I was reading "War and Punch Man" manga. I just kind of checked out after a while, but then I got super hype again, I was like,

- I'm back in. - Just when I thought I was out, they pull me back in. - Yeah, I kind of like checked out a little bit, but then I was like, all right, I feel like I'm back. - Yeah, to me, like I kind of like checked out Bleach midway through the, not was, what was the arc that went on for fucking ages? - "Wake-up Mundo"?

- No, not "Hueco Mundo." - I think it was like at the end of "Hueco Mundo" where I was like, I am happy with, you know, I'm happy with everything that I've read. And then I was like, I'm gonna keep reading until they defeat Aizen and then the series is gonna be over. And then they defeated Aizen and I'm like,

- It's still going. All right, I'll check it out for one more arc. All right, it still keeps going. - I kind of checked out halfway through the "Spider" arc as well. I was just like, "Come on, okay, I get it." - Where I was just like, "Okay, I thought it was going to be over. I thought it did." And they just like kept going and kept going. And then this was the last arc where I kind of like, they pulled me back in a little bit

just because I knew it was the last arc and they pulled me back in just because the action did go fucking hard and some massive things happened. But like at this point I was kind of like just reading Bleach just to see the end of Bleach because I want to see the end of Bleach. And to me Bleach,

Bleach just went on for too long. To me, that's my opinion. - Yeah, I mean, I read all the Bleach manga, but I kind of half did it just to like close the book on this chapter of my life to be like, this has been with me a long time in my life and I'm glad it's over. Am I satisfied with it? Not necessarily, but at least I can say that I have finished it.

and it's done. - I would have to like, I know Bleach fans are very, very passionate. - I can't wait for comments. - I would have to like reread Bleach just to give my proper, let's say proper opinion on it. Just because it's been such a long fucking time since I've read Bleach. So I don't- - Mind you, Garnt and my memory of Bleach is very fragmented 'cause it was kind of,

stretched out in a long period of time, obviously. So don't take anything we say seriously. Number six.

- Nah. - Yeah, six, but six, nah. - Nah. - Getting time for the final great movie. Let's move on. "Hunter x Hunter 2011." - Yes, yes. - Okay, so I've only read the manga, so I can't comment on the anime. - Probably like my favorite anime I think I've ever watched overall, I think. - I get the hype now, now that I've caught up on the manga. - I think "Hunter x Hunter" anime was the most engaged and like most, like I literally couldn't sleep 'cause I had to watch the next episode.

I just loved it. Everything about "Hunter Hunter" I love so much. I love the world so, so much. - Oh, the world building is incredible. - Yeah. - And this anime was amazing. I thought it did a really good job. And some of the pacing in the very, very start is a little slow, but it really picks up right away and then just never drops and never lets you go. I know a lot of people say the end talk is too long.

- But I really liked the Antarct. - I like the Chimera Ant arc. - I fucking love it. - Yeah. - Yeah, I think the difference between something like the Chimera Antarct and some arcs like, when I think of arcs that dragged, I think of like Naruto arcs, which is like the fourth Ninja War arc where I'm like, this was cool and then it kind of like went on a bit too long. Arrancar arc as well in Bleach.

The Chimera Ant arc, I feel like there were so many, like it was very long, but there were so many insane developments and insane ideas presented in this one single arc that I feel it justifies just how fucking long it is. - And I love Nen. Nen is a system I really fuck with. I think it's like my favorite battle system. - Oh yeah. - In any show. - Most definitely. - I feel like the, like,

nothing feels, I like that it's not this guy's more powerful, this guy's Nen ability is just so good against all of these things, but he can get fucked up by this other guy if he's around. Yeah, even the most like powerful characters have certain weaknesses, which the characters just need to figure out.

- Yeah, I'll tell you one of my favorite guys in "Hunter x Hunter" and why like I feel like then that was when Nen as a power system was like really fucking sold to me. And it was actually in the "Chimera Ant" arc but it was like the smoke guy. Do you remember the smoke guy?

The guy with the pipe? - Yeah. - Oh yeah. - He has like three fights, three or four fights, right? And he wins them all. And I was like, surely there's a fight that someone is like gonna top him because he goes up against different abilities. And I've just found it so fucking cool that he was like,

- He could make like areas out of smoke, right? Am I crazy? Am I wrong? - Yeah, he can kind of create like arenas or like enclosed spaces in smoke or something. - One of them was like water, right? - No, no, no. He went up against someone who could create a water arena. - That's right, right. - And his ability was so versatile that he could basically find a way to get around whatever other ability that the other guy had. - It's the problem with remembering "Hunter x Hunter" characters,

- I think I remember that guy. - But it showed that with experience- - Bring it up, bring it up. Tell me Smoke Guy, Hunter x Hunter. - Smoke Guy, Hunter x Hunter. - Smoke Guy, Hunter x Hunter. - It showed that with experience, you could figure out how to beat another guy. - Yeah, I remember this guy. - Yeah, yeah, yeah. - He was sick. - I love this guy. - And I just love that it showed him in three or four completely different fights. And he was able to, with logic,

how to defeat the other person with the power system of Nen. And I thought that was like so fucking cool and so fucking insane. - It was really refreshing to see a show that said, "Hey, my world is cool enough. "I don't need to have you be attached "to every single character and follow one point of view. "I'm willing to show you a bunch of this world, "get you hooked on the world."

instead of the characters. But then you get hooked on the characters as well. And then suddenly you have like 50 characters that you really fucking like enjoy watching. And whenever any of them are on screen, you're like, oh fuck yeah. - I think that's the most brilliant thing about the "Honda Honda" storytelling and how Togashi goes about the world building thing is that like, it really does feel like even if,

there are certain arc or certain elements of the arc or like even entire arcs where like you never see the character. It feels like at the back of your mind, you still remember them and you're like, oh, I wonder how he's doing. Or I wonder how she's doing. And you know, you want to know. And that's, I think that's what makes it so hype when that character finally appears and you're like, oh shit.

He was here this whole time. That's sick. - I mean, even it's like its weakest arcs, I think are better than most Shonen arcs in general. - Oh yeah, definitely. - I don't know. It was just such a good show. And the only thing that holds it back is that it's never gonna be finished. - Well, yeah. - Well, it's a big portion of it is finished. - He's making progress. - We'll see Morel sometime in the Darkhold. - But the problem is that, yeah, the manga is introducing this,

- Thing that says, by the way, this show is like 50 times bigger than you think. - You've been on a tiny island this whole time. - I'm reading it now. And the boat to there is so long. There's a whole arc on the boat to the new place and it's fucking long. This is never getting finished. - Yeah. - Unless he has some kind of giga brain.

turn back seas, you turn on the whole, I don't know. - I'm gonna be completely honest. Remember what I talked about earlier? I think I've mentally checked out of "Hunter x Hunter." - No! - See, this is why I'm scared. This is why I didn't want to start the manga for the longest time because I don't wanna get to that point.

I don't want to get to the point where I'm waiting so, and look, I totally get it. Togashi needs to take care of himself. Obviously he has his own issues. It's fine. - I'll tell you these, 'cause I do like the idea of like the dark continent. That seems really cool, but the exact moment. - It's too ambitious. - Yeah, it's too ambitious, which is the exact moment was in the manga, there is a climactic fight between two characters that have been built up. And then I read that and I was just like,

I think that's it. I think I'm satisfied. I've seen enough now. I've seen basically everything. - I think I know the one you're talking about. - Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. And I was like, okay, this fight has happened. Everything with the Dark Continent sounds cool, but mentally I don't even know what it is.

where this is going to go, when it's going to get to a point that I'm gonna get like pulled back in again. - Is this a Togashi-ism? 'Cause I felt the exact same way with Yu Yu Hakusho as well. - Which one was it with Yu Yu Hakusho? - Like after the Toguro brother fight. - No!

- No. - Yeah, because- - No, what? No. - I don't know what he's saying, but no. - I obviously read it till the end, but like, I think I mentioned this in a previous podcast episode, but like, I just don't really, I feel Yu Yu Hakusho kind of fizzled out and that was just something I didn't like. - Your chapter black was like the best arc of Yu Yu Hakusho.

- No. - "Chaps of Black" is the best arc of Yu Yu Hakusho. - No, it was not. - It was, it had so many insane ideas and one of the best villains in shonen. - It had so many insane ideas and then just Togashi just got bored of Yu Yu Hakusho and was like, "I'm gonna write "Hunt Hunter" instead." - Yeah, he does cook too hard sometimes. - Yeah, he had so many potentially cool ideas and he delivered on some of them and then it was just like, "I'm done."

- Yeah, this current arc, the "Hunter Hunter's End" and the manga actually kind of pissed me off 'cause I was like, what the fuck? Why are we spending so much time on this? On the boat over there? This feels ridiculous. It's so long. - I feel like I'm in "Berserker" again. - Yeah, yeah, yeah. - I'm like, "Berserk fans are like, "Next time." - But like that's long 'cause you didn't release any. This one is long 'cause it's fucking long. It's so long. - And he's not releasing any. - It's a novel ending. - So yeah, it's like,

- I don't know. - But what do you think, "Hunter x Hunter" deserve to be top 10? - Honestly, yeah, "Hunter x Hunter" I think so. - I think we can all agree. - "Hunter x Hunter" when it's at its peak, I think is unrivaled to "Shonen". It has absolute faith in its world and it knows it. - I'm so glad I can finally be involved in this "Hunter x Hunter" conversation. - It's not a hot take to say "Hunter x Hunter" has the best power system in "Shonen", in my opinion, but I do feel that what sets it up

A League Beyond was when Nen was introduced and when that concept was introduced. And it made like you, it made every fight so compelling and it made everything so much cooler as well. - And it made you care enough to know and want to go into the details.

which Togashi does a lot of. - It's a power system, which I think was genius because no matter how powerful character is, it always felt like there was a counter to it. And you know, with there was, you know, we have stands in Jojo, but stands in Jojo conceptually, it just, it got to a point where you couldn't really fucking comprehend what the fuck

was going on, you know? - Yeah, it was Araki just like pulling a band name out of a hat. And he was just like, "I'll give this guy shrinking abilities." - Yeah, yeah. To me, Hunter x Hunter, its power system still conceptually makes sense. Whereas with JoJo, there are some powers where I'm just like- - That's why I like JoJo. - It's just sick as fuck. That's all I- - It's sick.

- It doesn't have to make sense, it's just sick. - Sometimes you just need a fucking physics degree to get on to like understand what the fuck's going on, but it's still good. - Yeah, it's fine. - "Hunt Hunter" still makes sense. - I think "Hunt Hunter" easily is in my like top five anime of all time. I think it's just such a good shonen. If you like shonen and you haven't watched it, do yourself a favor and do it 'cause it's the GOAT.

- "Kaguya Summer Ultra Romantic" which is the third season of "Kaguya Summer". - So it's gonna be ending essentially, the rating. - It's still going. - It's still going. - It's still going. But there was a big- - I thought it was ended. - No, it hasn't ended. - What the fuck? - The manga is ending, right? - The manga is ending, yeah. The manga is ending. But this was a season where a big climactic moment happened in the anime. - Oh yeah, that's right. - And yeah.

- Would you put it at 11 on your list if you had a list? Would it be close to it, a bit lower, a bit higher? - I think it's an incredibly solid modern romance show for sure. Because I feel like a lot of problem with like modern romance, especially ones after like 2010, I just feel they kind of like got into a formula that was just kind of overdone. And even if it was a fresh formula or an interesting formula,

they didn't really like deliver on it to make it worth sitting around for. - Yeah. - I call it, I personally call that the Horimiya effect where like it's like Horimiya, it started off with this like really like unique at the time concept when it came out that was like, oh, okay, this is like kind of a straightforward yet like easy to understand concept. I can follow along with it. - You're not about to come out with a hot take. - And then it just kept fucking dragging on and on and on.

Nothing that happened. - Okay. - Okay, that is not- - Apparently it's a hot take. - That is not Kaguya-sama though. - No, no, I'm not saying that's Kaguya-sama. - I thought you were about to say, yo, Kaguya-sama. - Let me make this clear. This is why Kaguya-sama was good because it didn't do that. It actually kept you interested because it added so many fresh things throughout the story that is also very easy to understand. - I have a question. Why do we generally tend to

hold in higher regard action adventure shows as opposed to romance. 'Cause I imagine on this list, it's very heavily stacked towards adventure or action shows. - Yeah, because we have monkey brain. - And we think that that's better. - We wanna just see big man punch other big man. - Yeah, tiki big man, big man punch. But like there are a lot of romance shows. I mean, I see the tree fruits basket. - None of these are in the top 10. - Yeah, yeah, that's true.

- Kaguya-sama, I am very, very glad that it exists because I feel like Kaguya-sama is one of those few romances that got a modicum of popularity where a lot of romance anime, they don't even enter like the echelon of like popular like anime consensus. And I feel like Kaguya-sama entered that.

Is it my favorite romance of all time? Probably not. - Yeah. - Would it be in the top 25? - Of favorite best romances? Oh, hell. - No, no, no, of anime. - Of anime?

- I mean, this is going into like personal. I think I've just grown out of high school romances. Out of everything, I think Kage Sama is definitely my favorite high school romance. I'm more of an adult romance kind of guy right now. - I want adult romance more. - Yeah, yeah, yeah. - Well, I did appreciate, one thing I did appreciate about this season of Kage Sama especially is that the way that they decided to go about the romance was definitely done in a more sensible and mature way where like even

mature watchers of the show could appreciate it. Whereas I feel like a big like thing with a lot of high school romances is that it's very difficult for, I guess, older audiences to like really get themselves into because either the way that the romance is done and is represented is very like synonymous with like that

age group or it's just something that they can't really appeal to anymore because they are now older. Whereas I feel Kaguya-sama kind of straddled the line between those two fan bases in a pretty tasteful way. So yeah, I'm pretty happy with this. - Let me say it like this. If Kaguya-sama came out when I started watching anime, this would be my favorite romance of all time. Like straight up this, like I know why people love this and

watching the biggest thing that surprised me going into like the second and third season was, so it starts off and kind of like the hook is that it's a romance, but it's kind of like a death note kind of romance, right? And that's like, he, he funny death note mind games in a romance. And you know, that hooks you in. And then season two and season three has some amazing fucking character writing. And it gives depth to these characters where I wasn't watching this to see

see this much depth and this many developments happen with each of the characters. And that just kind of like surprised you out of nowhere. And then that's why people really, really like Kaguya-sama. The only nerve for it for me is that I am now 33 and I'm still watching high school romance. - Yeah. - The same as they used to do. And that is not a slight on Kaguya-sama. That is just- - That is a war against the entire genre. - That is just a me thing.

- That is just a me thing. - That's fair. - So personally, would I put it in my top 15? No, but as- - It's understandable. - Yeah, but like I said, if I was 18 years old, 16 years old, I can't remember how long,

when did I start watching anime? Fucking 15, 16 years old, this would definitely be up there. - Speaking of the most my anime list show ever. - Legendary show. - Legendary show. - This is the, yes, I do watch anime.

- I'm not just an anime fan, I'm an anime fan. - It's an OVA, so never aired on TV. - Yeah. - Oh wow, it was being released in DVDs and kept alive by hardcore fans. - Well look at the airing. It started in January 1988 and finished in March 1997. - Is it fully completed? - Yeah, it's fully completed.

- I have not finished watching "Legend of the Galactic Heroes." - I'm gonna say the most fucking MyAnimeList, Anime Man thing ever. I fucking love this show.

- What, did you think I was gonna shit on it? - You were like, "I'm going to say the most anime man thing ever." - No, I just had to fucking Robert Downey Jr. like, "Oh my God." - Oh my God. Thank you, Joey's not gonna say a hot take. - No, this is an incredibly well-written show. - Is there a new version of this? - Yeah. - Yeah, I think I voiced in a dub. - Oh really? - I'm pretty sure I voiced in one of the episodes. - How do you not remember? - Yeah. - Dude, it was so fast. They were just like, "Can you just be some,

who just says something in a bar. So I have like four lines in a bar. - But that's fucking dope to say you've been in "Legend of the Galactic Heroes." - Yeah, I think I'm in "Legend of the Galactic Heroes." I don't know which, I have no idea. Maybe someone can tell me if I am. I'm definitely in one of the dubs though. - But yeah, "Legend of the Galactic Heroes" is by far one of the best space operas ever written.

I think just in general. - Does it hold up today? - Oh, incredibly. - Should I watch it? - Okay, here's maybe a hot take from me.

I think you should just watch the remake. - Is it good? - It's very good. - I haven't seen the remake. - It's incredible. - Is it completely finished? - No. - Oh. - That's the big problem. It's actually funny. I watched "Legends of the Galactic Heroes" like about, I think like halfway through or something. Stopped watching it because I was like, "Ah, I get to watch the remake." Caught up to the remakes and it's actually about the same point in the remakes, which is where I stopped the original. So I don't have any opinions on like the second half of "Legends of the Galactic Heroes," but-

- It is just incredible writing. I don't know what to say. - But can you say confidently that it deserves the 12th spot if you haven't finished it? - It deserves to be higher. - What? - Yeah, I would put this in my top 10. - Damn, is that good? - It's like- - This just feels like the Citizen Kane of anime. - It kind of is. - It is, but like I think- - Everyone says it's good. No one can say a bad thing about it. - I think the one thing I really respect about "Legend of the Galactic Heroes" is that it's a show that's really not afraid to

but in a way where you, because there's a lot of characters in the show, obviously as well, 'cause it's such a long show, but like at the end of the show, you feel like you know every single detail about every single character. And again, like in, I can't believe I'm gonna do this, but in the same way as Gintama, you- - Bro, you are literally a My Little Anime Lister, bro. - In the same way as Gintama.

In the sense of it feels like the most natural progression of how things can go. And characters just make sense. - You'd like have to have this on your, if you're a big user of my anime list, this is probably like a skill check on your profile. Oh yeah, no, I know what I'm talking. Look, I got it. - Are you a level one anime fan or a level 100 fan?

- Also like Gintama in the same way I imagine now actually, 'cause you said it referenced a lot of show and jump humor. Perhaps it's more of a like, look, I'm an anime fan. - Oh, Gintama is absolutely an anime show for anime fans. - Yeah, okay, go ahead. - I feel like the real appeal of like "Legend of the Galactic Heroes," it might not be something as like, 'cause it doesn't have like a lot of action. It's something that is very political

very deep, very dense, like it's a very, it's not something you could just casually watch. You need to be paying- - You need to be invested in this. - Yeah, you need to be invested in it, but- - No subway service on the side. - No subway service on the side. The thing that's incredible to me about "Legend of the Galactic Heroes" is that when I watch it, it almost doesn't feel like I'm watching

- It almost feels like I am watching a history documentary. 'Cause that's what it feels like, right? - That's cool. - It feels like- - That's all you had to say, I'll watch it now, documentary. - Exactly, it almost feels like you're watching history unfold of a certain timeline where something happens and then every, like this knock on effect on its world makes total fucking sense. And you see different,

storylines of different leaders, different dictators, different people within the history of this world. The best way I can say is things happen and people make decisions and this affects everything that happens in the timeline of this world. Kind of like history does. When you read about, hey, this guy called Genghis Khan just,

and then he decided to do this. And then this had a knock on it. It kind of feels like that kind of like real life lore. - It's in a lot of ways similar to Dune where like the universe, yeah, the universe surrounding the story is so succinct and so like well thought out. Yeah, it's so well thought out that when one thing, as Garnt said, it's like a chain reaction. When one event happens in the story and these characters react,

it makes so much sense to the viewer. They're like, oh, of course that would react this way. - One of my favorite scenes, okay, last thing I'll say, one of my favorite scenes in anime is in "Legend of the Galactic Heroes" where it's just two, these two characters have just been, that have just been built up for like seasons upon seasons. And then they finally get to meet. - I know exactly what scene you're talking about. - They sit down for a cup of tea and I'm like, holy shit, this is fucking incredible. And they just debate philosophy.

And I'm just like, this is sick. This is sick. - That's why it's the gold. - This is like in "Fate." You like that scene in "Fate" too. - Oh, when they're walking around in circles talking? - When they're all sitting down drinking. - Yeah. But this is like, imagine that scene, but when you've had like 50 episodes worth of building. - It's fantastic. - Higher is what we're saying. - It deserves it. - I feel like the top rated shows, pretty safe. We've been pretty safe so far. And for the most part,

- With top rated, normally a bunch of users have the mostly correct opinion, right? - Yeah, so now we're gonna judge if a show deserves its popularity. - That's right. We're gonna go to the popularity list. - Because there's a difference between top rated and most popular, right? - Yeah, so this list is compiled based on how many

users of my anime list have added these series onto their favorite anime list. - Yeah. - Not based off of like a star rating or anything like that. This is how many people, individual people have rated this show as like, I guess to them a 10 out of 10. - I just realized half of these shows are in Fortnite.

- This is probably where Epic Games is getting their list from. They're just like, all right, what's the next one we need to add? - Literally half of these are, is One Punch Man in Fortnite? Is it not? - I don't think it is yet. - I'm surprised. - Okay. - Second Titan, we got My Hero Academia. Scroll down.

- Sword Art. - Sword Art online. - Naruto is there. - Demon Slayer. - Demon Slayer. - I don't think so yet. - Not yet. - Demon Slayer, yeah. Tokyo Ghoul is number nine? - Tokyo Ghoul number nine. - Tokyo Ghoul is number nine? - All right, well let's go for number one. - All right, let's go to number one. - Let's go to number one. - Number one is Attack on Titan. - We've already talked about this. - First season in the sequel. - The most popular by 40,000. So not a lot, but yeah, Death Note and Attack on Titan. Which again, I think,

I've always said this, I think "Death Note" is the perfect first anime. - I agree. - You get into anime and be introduced. I think "Attack on Titan" also, rightfully so. I think those two are the two shows that I would be like, you wanna watch anime? Watch these. - "Attack on Titan" is a perfect starter for action oriented shows and "Death Note" is the perfect non-action oriented show. I think you can look at, you can see both sides of what anime has to offer just from these shows. - The only problem I have with recommending "Attack on Titan" as a first anime is that no other anime is like "Attack on Titan."

So if you're like, "Dude, can I get more of this?" Like, no, there is no more of this. There's nothing else like this. - I mean, wouldn't you say the same thing about Death Note though? - Death Note kinda, yeah. But there are thrillers, but not to the same- - Yeah, there's a lot of anime like Death Note.

- But not as good as Death Note. - Think about shit like Kaiji or like any mind game kind of show. - But problem with shows like Liar Game or Kaiji is that like, yeah, or like One Outs is that like, it's not like appealing visually as Death Note. Like Death Note is a really pretty show. - That's very, yeah, a lot of cool. - Code Geass. - Yeah, Code Geass, again, I've seen some people complain

about their fucking triangular face chin. - I'm actually shocked that Code Geass isn't higher. I thought in my head that it was like top five in popularity. - Okay, is there anything that sticks out here that doesn't deserve to be in the top five? - Yeah, number five. - Five and six. - Five and six. - Five and six? - But like it's hard to explain to an anime fan who gets into anime in the past five years just how much of a chokehold Sword Art Online had at peak. When Sword Art Online came out,

- It was like the only show. - Oh yeah. - It was the only thing anyone fucking spoke about. And it dominated online culture. - Well that's because there just wasn't as much anime out there. - There's no shows about the real ones, the gamers out there. - I think people,

- Hey man, don't discredit my boy .hack like that, right? .hack doesn't count. - Bro, get the fuck out. - .hack did it first. - Joey, if I wanted to watch a camping anime, I'd watch Euro camp, okay? 'Cause that's what .hack was. It's not a gamer anime, it's a camping anime, Joey. - It wasn't for the male fantasy, Joey. And Sword Online is for the male fantasy. You wanna log into World of Warcraft. - There wasn't enough waifus in .hack. - You wanna be the god gamer.

It's "Sword Art Online." This show was so fucking popular. Not so much now, thank God, but it was ridiculous how popular this show was. - I gotta ask. - It would be in Fortnite if it came out today. - Joe, I gotta ask you a personal question. Did you watch "Sword Art Online" before it got popular? - Yeah.

and you had formed your opinion about it. - Yeah. - Yeah? - Yeah. - Not based on any- - It's okay. It's okay to say you didn't like it. - No, no, no, no. I remember, dude. This is a really- - It's okay to say you liked it. - No, this is a really well-known meme in my community that when I was writing anime reviews on my website before I even started making videos, I gave the first season of Sword Art Online a nine out of 10. - Did you actually? - Yeah.

- And this is something that I have owned up to many, many times. It wasn't until- - Oh my God, the biggest plot twist. - It wasn't until the second season came out, Alfheim Online, or I guess the second half of the first season came out, that I started to see issues. And then it made me rewatch from the beginning to be like, was I just being swallowed up by the hype of the show? And then I started to pinpoint all the problems and I'm like, ah,

I think I was just blinded by the hype of this show. - I've never seen a show fumble season two so much. - Oh my God, yeah. "Alfheim" was the biggest fumble. And it fumbled so hard that it made me question if actual, like the first half of the season was good or not. - I distinctly remember watching "Sword Art Online" season one and I thought, holy shit, it's a show for me.

It's a show that gets me and my innate desires. - Okay, I will give "Sword Art Online" credit in saying that I think the first two episodes of "Sword Art Online." - Oh, come on. - No, no. - Season one was good. - No, legit, I think the first two episodes of "Sword Art Online," I think had a lot of potential to go in a direction that would have been a lot more interesting. - I fucking loved season one. I had a great time with it.

- I still think it's go-go. - But yeah, season two was such fucking dog shit. - Yeah. - I don't know why everyone,

- Everyone likes Sword Art Online until they didn't. And I just- - You know the moment I checked out? - When? - It's probably when I started making a family. I was like, "What the fuck is this?" - Okay, okay. - What the fuck is this? - The moment I checked out was when Yui, that fucking small girl. - Yeah, I was like, "Yui, the small girl?" - That was the point where I was like, "You've gone in the wrong direction." - I was like, "Okay, if I'm playing this game, "if I'm in this game, I'm selling that thing for XP, "or I'm finding a way to make use of this kid."

I'm not fucking raising it. What the fuck? - Yeah. That was the moment where like all logic was thrown out the window and it just took the story in a direction. Like, 'cause the concept of Sword Art Online could have gone in like a really dark and brooding direction where like you could actually feel the stakes of like these characters that were put in place, right? But it took itself in a direction where

it didn't really highlight that like doom and gloom that the world was built around and instead focused on like, so how the fuck can I rise up Asuna? Like no one gives a fuck. Like you completely forgot about the whole point of the story that you placed your characters in and put in some bullshit romance story behind it. And it just ruined everything by the end.

he wrote Asuka as very boring generally, and then gave up on Asuka and was like, "Let's just introduce new girls, fuck it." - All right. - Yeah, I mean, I think it's interesting, right? Because I look back to Sword Art Online season one, and I generally think that there were some really cool ideas in season one. I think we'd- - Again, first couple of episodes introduced so many cool ideas that could have been used in so many interesting ways in the story.

And then the color Harry was just like, yeah but I really want us and I cured her to fuck. Like that's all he cared about. Well, I think that's what all the viewers cared about apparently. - Yeah, I mean the boss battles and sort out some lines and still fucking hype of yes. It's fucking power fantasy. But I remember seeing Kirito get the fucking second sword out. Didn't really think too much about how fair this was as a game mechanic. The one person. - Also how much it didn't make sense. - Yeah, yeah.

- If it was a real game, it'd be fucking stupid. - Yeah. - And be like, what a fucking dumb mechanic. - Yeah, exactly. - That guy gets two swords because he has quick reaction times. Fuck that guy. - Yeah, what the fuck? - Yeah. - That just makes Faker even more fucking OP. What the fuck, man? - Yeah, but that's the thing, right? Is that like, you know, and when I initially went back to rewatch it and I started to like actually dissect the show for what it was and I realized

this could have gone in a direction that I would have really thoroughly enjoyed. And, you know, subsequent shows after Sword Art Online came out actually did go in directions that were interesting and actually utilize the story in the way that it was intended to be like Log Horizon, for example. Where as Sword Art Online, I feel the biggest sin that Sword Art Online committed was that it just fumbled a really interesting idea. - I think Log Horizon fumbled it too.

- You think? - I feel like I just couldn't figure out what I wanted to do. - I think it wasn't a better trajectory than "Sword Art". - It was though. I did, "Pique Log Horizon" I enjoyed more than "Pique Sword Art Online" for me. - Yeah, totally. - But I felt like "Log Horizon" also kind of was like- - "Log Horizon" did drag on. - What I want this to be now, I don't know. But "Sword Art Online", yeah, it was insane when it came out and I'm not surprised that it's number five. However- - I mean, it's such an easy show to recommend to people as well. - I'm still gonna defend Alicization though. I'm still gonna defend-

- I think the longer time passes, the more we'll see Sword Online slowly drop down. - I think so. - Because people aren't really, I don't think as many people are watching it anymore. - No. - No. - There's people like me. - Yeah. - Yeah. - I feel like it's gonna become an old internet meme in like 20 years. Like, "Oh, Sword Online is so bad." - Watch Man being number four though, I do agree with that. I think it fucking- - Season one, yeah. - Season one was such a,

I came out of fucking nowhere and just kind of like, it was one of those shows where I could easily again recommend it to anyone and be like, just check it out. It's fun. - I'm gonna be that guy. - You don't think it's that good? - I'm gonna be that guy. Mob Psycho deserves a spot. Mob deserves this spot. - I think when we're talking about popularity, right? We have to think,

if you're an anime fan who's got five anime to watch and then you're clocking out of anime, you're done. You've done your- - We're not arguing if we understand the popularity 'cause I understand the popularity. Does it deserve this much popularity? - Oh, I mean, yeah. I mean, Mob definitely deserves it, but Mob is also a show that you watch after you've already watched like 20 anime. - I will argue this point once- - Really? I think so.

- I will argue this point once I figure out what placement mob is in this list. - Can we go down? - Where is mob? - Where is mob? - Is mob even there? Is mob even there? - There it is. - There it is. Mob Psycho 100. - Okay, that deserves to be way high up. - That has two million favorites. - It's below Seven Deadly Sins. It's below Arkham Eagle Kill. What the fuck?

- There's no God in this world. - Okay, okay, but wait, give it like a year, I think it'll be out. - Oh my God, why is Noragami so high? - It's only a few behind. - I just saw that. - Well, 'cause Noragami, I think you- - That hurts me so much. - What does Boku Dake got? - That's erased. - Erased. - Why is erased? - Just call it fucking erased. - Why is erased? - Why do you do this?

- Oh my God, that's... - Okay, all right. - I've never seen Joey's this much in bed. - Okay, let's scroll up. Let's go back to where we were. - Yeah, let's go back to where we were, please. - Let's go down. Let's not spend too much time on these 'cause these are classics. Naruto, yeah, whatever. Demon Slayer, okay. - Demon Slayer, sure. - Tokyo Ghoul. - Tokyo Ghoul at number nine. - Above Hunter x Hunter? - This is like fucking the manga readers are carrying this. - Ain't no way. - 'Cause ain't no way the anime is this heavy. - Ain't no way. - How much...

- Serious question now, how much do you think the opening song has contributed to the success of "Tokyo Ghoul"? - Like 70%. - I think it's the only show where the opening has done so much fucking heavy lifting for the show. - Absolutely. - The intro is mimed more than anything else, but they also have the classic manga pattern.

- Yeah, of course. - But like, the memes are carrying this show. - Yeah, the intro has done so much fucking heavy lifting for this. I'm sure there are many people who listened to the opening and like, "Oh, what's this from? Oh, I'll check that out. That sounds cool." I think "Turkical" is a concept again, insane concept, fumbled the bag massively.

- Yeah. - Anime did. - Anime did. - Oh really? - Yeah. - I've read the manga, but the fucking anime fucking fumbled it so hard. Root A, what the fuck was that shit like? Also, we should be banned from ever naming a show Root something. The semi-colons were pushing it for me. Root A, what the fuck?

- Yeah, that is a bit weird. - Whatever happened to two? Was two not good enough for some people? - I agree. - Wasn't edgy enough. - Yeah, take that Gintama fans. I don't know how the fuck you guys name your season. - Fucking dumb ass. - Hey, I never said I liked it. - Gintama's like Gintama, Gintama cursive.

- Gintama apostrophe, Gintama circle. - Yeah, I think I've never been as annoyed as when I saw the root name. - Okay, to be fair, as a Gintama fan, that shit is annoying as fuck. - Yeah, give me "Attack on Titan" season three, part one, episode five. - Okay, I'll agree on that. That's better. I genuinely prefer that. At least I have some indication of what the fuck this is. What the fuck is a root A? - No, my least favorite is when there's like, it's slightly different. Like, working season one has one exclamation mark and then season two is two.

- Two exclamation marks. It's like fuck off. - I think we should bring Roman numerals for everything. - Roman numerals? - Just keep it easy. - All right, yeah. - Okay. - Our Hansa we talked about. - Your name? - Yes, yes, yes. I fucking love your name. Yeah, yeah. Get the fuck out guys. Get the fuck out. Your name?

I goddamn love your game. - Wait, "Maihira Akademiya" is number six, right? - Yeah. - Second season. - That's crazy. - Yeah, "Maihira Akademiya" season one is six and season two is, what was it, 16? 14? - But that show not only dominated Japan, it absolutely dominated online and like the entire world for 2016. - Yeah, absolutely. - It just ran it. I think it ran online. - I'm surprised that, can we go up to the rating? I'm surprised it's rated that low, the low- - 7.88. - 7.88.

Because this was before everyone kind of like fell out of love with "Wahiru Academia." And considering that "Demon Slayer" is 8.49 as well for the season one. - That is crazy to think it's more popular than "Demon Slayer." - Well, on my anime list, definitely not. Like this is- - I mean the rating also speaks a little bit there. - Yeah, my anime list is I think a good indicator of the Western anime community.

- And also doesn't factor in current popularity very well. - Exactly, exactly. - Yeah, because if you ask Japanese people, Kimetsu no Yaiba is 10 out of 10. - Actually, you know what? I am shocked. One Piece isn't in the top 10. - I'm not surprised by that. - It's crazy to me to think that more people have watched Tokyo Ghoul, Hunter x Hunter, Naruto. - I'm not surprised by that just purely because of the sheer length of One Piece. - But Hunter x Hunter is long too. I'm surprised people have watched more of Hunter x Hunter than-

- Yeah, I'm not surprised either 'cause a lot of people get confused when I say, "Hey, One Piece, wasn't that like out of the big three, it wasn't that popular." And I remember like modern anime fans call me up being like, "What the fuck are you talking about? One Piece is like right now, it is one of the most popular anime." - I saw that 'cause someone called you out for it and then all the comments are like, "No, no, he's right."

- Let my boy cook. - Like there was a time when people were clowning on One Piece fans. - That's why I never got into it. - And it was not because One Piece fans were insufferable at the time, it's because no one was watching One Piece at the time. - Yeah, the reason why I never even got into One Piece, I just knew they always existed, is 'cause no one spoke about it when I was getting into anime, which was like 2013,

to like 2000. - It was a quiet favorite for a lot of people. - Yeah, yeah. Because the four kids dub just ruined so much of one piece of the image. Do you remember that? - Yeah. - Oh yeah, my favorite anime opening. - Let's scroll down. - Yeah. - That's gotta be a legacy. I imagine this was a lot higher five years ago and it slowly keeps going. - I think so, yeah. - As more shows keep popping up. - All Shonen. - Naruto Shippuden, Jinsukai Senten. No game, no life at 17. - Genuinely?

I think Jujutsu Kaisen is gonna get into the top five. - It's gonna get higher. - It's gonna get into the top five. I think I can't see it with what's just happened with the current season. I can't see this not going in the top five. - Yeah, it's gonna get higher for sure. - It's, I think- - Wait. - Oh, there's one piece. - Is there a way back machine of this page? I'd love to see one from like a year ago and see where Jujutsu Kaisen, like how much it's grown in one year. If you just go back to way back machine and type in the copy paste the link,

If you go, just copy paste the link from that page and put it in. And then there should be a ton of screenshots from dates. - Yeah. - I'd love to see how much has even gone up in like three months. So you can go to like- - 2022? - Yeah, go to the end of 2022. So just scroll- - I still think it was always pretty, like it was pretty popular by 2022. - And then click the highlighted, yeah, that one.

I wonder how big this image is though. Sometimes it takes a while to load. - Yeah, I mean, I still think it was always pretty damn popular. Jujutsu Kaisen actually got popular pretty fast compared to some other Shonens. - Wow, this list hasn't changed much. - Yeah, it hasn't changed much. - But- - Go to 16.

- Oh, it's not there. - It's not there. - Okay, wait, where is it? - No Game of Life was there. - Keep scrolling down. Oh, it's 20. - It's 20. - Okay, so it hasn't changed that much. - But wait, how much, that means it's gone up. - It's gone up six, five places. - Oh, sorry, four places. - Four places, sorry. - I think it's gonna keep going up though. - I think so. - Yeah, yeah, it's gonna keep going up. I feel like this- - This time next year, it's gonna be very close to the top 10, if not in the top 10. - This latest season of "Jujutsu Kaisen" season two has completely blown its popularity out of the window. - And it's in Fortnite.

That's the most important. That's how we gauge the popularity of the show nowadays. - No game, no life. - No game, no life in '17 is fucking insane to me. - Why? - Yeah. - What do you mean why? Why is it so up there? - Yeah. - Bro, it's another show for gamers. - Yeah. - Also- - Gamers are the most underrepresented group of all time. - Also, I think this show just visually was so appealing to so many people because it is still to this day one of the most like,

in terms of like visuals from popular shows where it's like, whoa, this looks insane. - I remember watching this when it was airing and it was like the only show that anyone cared about at the time.

- There wasn't much though. - There really wasn't, no. It was a really slow year. - I mean, it's- - Are you sure you wanna say that? - It was a shit year for anime, just to be fair. - It doesn't deserve to be that high up there. 17th most popular anime of all time. - That's wild. - Above season three. - And I say this as the isekai guy, it was a fun show. That was it. - Genuinely a mystery how it never got a season two.

- People still ask for it today. - It's crazy, it was so popular. - And they were like, "What if we give you a prequel in a movie form that you never asked for?" And people were like, "Thanks." - Japan is, but I will admit recently, Japan's gotten a lot better lately. When a show is popular, they will just make a season two. But I feel like back then they were like, "Nah, we're good." - What confuses me is that

- Anime is going through a phase right now where they're just digging up any show that had any modicum of popularity. - Oh, 'cause they're trying to make more anime, yeah. - Yeah, and now they're not digging up "No Game, No Life." What the fuck? "Devil is a Part-Timer" has a second season. Like how? - Dude, "Spice and Wolf" has a new season. - "Spice and Wolf" has a remake. What's going on with "No Game, No Life?" - Yeah, it is weird. - Yeah. - And then we also got "One Piece 19." That's only gonna keep going up as it has been going up. - "Silent Voice."

- Number 20. - I hate, my anime list, I hate that you do this. Why you just put silent voice? We're in English. Why? I don't understand. - In Japan it's called .

- And then we got Code Geass season one. - Okay, do you think Code Geass still deserves the popularity that it got? - I'm honestly kind of shocked that it's not higher. It must've fallen recently, as less people were able to get into it. - Yeah, I mean, it's pretty old right now. - Yeah, where is it on this list?

- Yeah, he was 19. - Oh no, it went up. - No, no, it went down. - Did it? - Yeah, it went down. - Go back up. Yeah, it's 21. - Oh yeah, yeah, yeah. - Yeah, because it's an old anime, right? - Yeah. - Yeah. I think, I'm trying to think, would I, how much is this nostalgia talk? - Oh, I have an unbridled amount of nostalgia for the show. This,

- Oh, this show just makes me feel happy when I see it. It was such a good time. It was like peak Xbox era too. And I'm like, yeah, when I watched it. - I would say if I had to say anything, I think the only thing that is not aged well with Code Geass is potentially the visuals and like the character designs. It is very mid 2000s looking. - No, I love it. I love the fucking- - Well, that's the thing though. It's very like,

it's very like divisive on like, I've heard some people say like the visuals for Code Geass are amazing. I've heard a lot of people say they don't like the visuals for Code Geass, but in terms of like how the story was written and you know, all of the great things that made Code Geass such a great story, I think it's still holding. - It was the first time I had to start like checking my doors were shut before I watched it. 'Cause there would just be random shots of like- - Also the blades. - That was season two. Season two just got randomly

way more horny than season one. - Yeah, I'm gonna be like, hold up, why am I? - Also, I will say the blatant Pizza Hut ads in the middle

in the middle of each episode were a bit weird, even back then. - All right, all right. I gotta say this, okay? I'm not sure "Code Geass" is as good as we remember it, all right? - Yeah, 100%. - I have rewatched it, Ryan. - I've watched it too. - We all remember that season two fucking mess, right? Season one though, perfect. Perfect show in my mind. Almost perfect show. - Is that one episode with the cat?

- I was gonna, okay, okay. There's one episode with Kat. Do we remember the Kat episode? - I remember. - Do we remember the whole Mao arc? - Yeah, that was weird too. - Mao arc? I don't remember that.

- You wiped it from your memory. - I might've wiped it from my memory. - Do you remember when this other random guy with a gear just kidnapped Natalie and fucked with Lelouch? - Yeah, I do remember that. - And I was just like, that was a thing that happened. - Yeah, oh my God. - Just never. - I guess I did wipe that from my memory.

- Holy shit, yeah, I do remember that. - Yeah, I remember rewatching Code Geass with Sydney like a few years ago, 'cause she'd never seen it. And she still fucking loves the ending and everything. But I think watching it in modern days, you forget that there are,

- Maybe filler's not the, no, I think it is filler. There is a lot of things. - There's a lot of random encounters. - A lot of bloat. And also there is this point that I don't know why I thought this was like a fucking genius plot twist when I watched this when I was like 17 or whatever. But if you remember the end of, there was something that happened at the end of season one. - It's nearly a 20 year old show. - All right. There is this point where Code Geass had ended.

It solved all his conflicts. Like Euphemia was gonna be like, "Hey, it's okay. I'm going to give up the throne or whatever." I can't remember the exact thing, but I remember all of like the conflicts had been solved. And then Lelouch just goes,

Like if I hypothetically said, told you to go murder everyone. - Oh yeah, that was so fucking funny. - If I just hypothetically told you to go murder everyone, you do it. And then out of like sheer coincidence, he had awoken a second Geass. And I'm just like, I remember watching this as an adult. I was just like,

- Huh, that feels kind of bullshitty, doesn't it? - It kind of feels shoehorned in. - Yeah, at the time I must have been like, "Ain't no way." But like now I'm probably like, if I had watched it, I'd be like, "That's fucking dumb." - He's gone too? Wait, he said, "What do you fee me at the perfect time?" And she starts murdering and now the plot continues and then there's a season two now? - Yeah, that is kind of weird. - Yeah, yeah, yeah.

So yeah, no, maybe I think nostalgia is carrying this for me one. I think I like it at the 20s. - I still think it has the best ending in anime period. - I agree with that. - I just think that if it aired nowadays, probably we'd be calling out some of its, let's say you- - Inconsistencies. - Inconsistencies, even with season one. - Toradora, yeah, I'm happy with Toradora at this point. I think it's my favorite romance anime.

- I prefer "Golden Time." - Oh, you're a real one. You're a real one. - I'm with you guys. - If we're talking romance shows from the same author, "Golden Time," I think- - Yeah, I always forget about "Golden Time." - I think "Golden Time" is my favorite romance anime of all time. - It's up there on that show. I think I even said I- - And I say this fully acknowledging that

- Ghost Bannery was a thing that I would like to wipe my memory. Do you remember Ghost Bannery? - No, I don't know. - All right, good, good. - So I have to rewatch Golden Time? - Let's keep it, do you not remember? - So we agree that we like this spot, but we'd swap it with Golden Time? - I would swap Tartar with Golden Time. - But you think like 23rd for Golden Time is chill?

- Wait, why do I recognize this show? - That's "Golden Time." - This is "Golden Time." So "Ghost Banner" was a side plot that- - Was it in the anime? - Yes. - Oh my God, I do remember this. 'Cause it was so shit. We had just wiped this side plot from all of our memories. And this is the one blight that's bringing down "Golden Time" for me.

- What is that Hansa Hansa edit? - I do remember feeling like... I do remember feeling the fucking cult thing was weird, but I liked it. - I think I thought. - Let's continue with the list. - Okay, yeah. - We like "Golden Time." - "Golden Time" better than "Tarantino." - This is the violin why I watch. - Okay, your line, April 24. - For God's sake, you used to... Ah, I hit my head.

"Look at this Re:Zero title, what the fuck?" - Can you read that? - Very good. Or Re:Zero for short. Okay, "Yolei in April", I have a bias towards the show because I love shows about music. And as someone who did classical piano, like the soundtrack to it is fucking awesome. And I think it did a lot of really good things. The ending,

- It was a bit whack, I will say. - It wasn't the ending, it was halfway through. - Halfway through? - It was halfway through. - Which part? - It was like episode 14, I think. - I don't remember. - Okay, I will tell you this, Joey, because I really, really liked "Yuly and April" and I thought I really fucking liked the music aspect of that. And then at some point it just felt like it just gave up on that aspect and was just, and...

- It was like the writer thought, "Hey, this isn't sad enough seeing someone deal with their trauma of rediscovering music. We need fucking cancer or some shit." - Yeah, we need a real death. - Yeah, and that to me,

After that tonal shift, I kind of like just checked out because it almost felt like a little bit too forced where I was really emotionally invested in, I can't remember the main character's name of like falling in love or rediscovering his love for music and all the trauma that he went through. I was like really emotionally invested in that. I felt super sad and super happy when seeing him perform again. And then they just,

- When he hears the music again for the first time, like that scene is gorgeous. That made me cry like a motherfucker. - Maybe I'll watch it someday. Probably not, 'cause it's about music. - Yeah, and then it kind of went a completely different direction about halfway through. - Is this your way of kind of saying maybe it doesn't deserve to be in the top 25? - I think it's a little overrated.

- Yeah, I think- - You think it's a top 50? Not a top 25? - No, no. - No, not even top 50. - I think it did a lot of good things, but again, like Sword Art Online, I feel like it fumbled the bag. - Okay, fair enough. - Which is interesting because I remember reading somewhere that apparently Oda, the creator of One Piece, he named "Yorai and April" as the one manga he wished he wrote.

- Oh shit. - Yeah, and I'm like, - Ain't no way. - Ain't no way. It would have been a very different show if you had written it. - Next up, Re:Zero. - Re:Zero, season one.

I'm kind of impressed how much an impact Re:Zero has had considering not much has happened in the anime yet. I feel like we're just at the start of a journey and it's releasing way too slowly. - I had a really fun time watching season one. - Yeah, me too. I really liked it too. 'Cause it was very fresh concept. I felt like they explored the return. When you die, you return. I thought they explored it in a really

and in such, I feel like other shows would be too scared to do what it did. I really liked it. I liked it a lot. It was fun. The side characters sort of lose me a bit though.

- Yeah, that's about it. - Yeah, I mean- - Also he's cringe, which is great 'cause he learns to not be cringe. - He's a true gamer. - He literally does. - That's the gamer art that we needed, man. - Whereas like Kirito, he should always cringe. - He literally dies from cringe. - Yeah, yeah. So I think, oh man, it's so tough 'cause- - Would you put in 25?

- I feel like it's, it's, it's Re:Zero is still so new almost. - Re:Zero is cooking. - It's still in the oven. I feel like it's not done. - Watching season two kind of reminded me of watching Attack on Titan season two. - Yeah. - Where you felt like, oh, they're cooking something. - We're scratching. - Yeah, I'm not sure what they're cooking,

- But I'm starting to smell it. - Is it even like season three? Season three is out? - No, it's not out. Only season two is out. - It's about to come out. - That was season two? - That was season two. - We've only had two seasons. - That's fucked. Season two felt like it was just buildup. - It was. - Yeah, exactly. - And when it ended, I was like, huh? - Yeah, so I think season three is gonna be the real determiner.

- Yeah, come on man. There's only so much REM merchandise we can push. Come on bro. Where is it? Where is season three? - It's airing next year I think. - Wait, really? - Yeah, yeah. - Oh yeah, right. We watched the trailer together Connor. - Dude, I mean. - You announced it Connor. - I know I did, I did announce it. I mean, what's crazy to me is that they must have

- Unlimited money. This show, the amount of REM merch they must have sold is- - Dude, I appreciate the fact that they're not rushing this shit out either. They're cooking and I will let them cook as long as we get something sold. - I think waifu penetration in the market is, we haven't seen this kind of waifu penetration in a long time. - No, don't say waifu penetration. - Waifu penetration in the market of waifus. - Yeah, we have, we have, Asuna.

- No, Rem fucking bodies. - Also, yeah. - You think so? - I think Rem bodies, Asuna. - In terms of like popularity? - Yeah.

- No, I think when Sword Online came out, Asuna was fucking everywhere. - Asuna started the trend. Rem just rode that wave. Asuna started the boring vanilla best girl trend. - What am I hearing? - Thank you, thank you. And then Rem perfected it. - Asuna didn't earn it, bro. - Asuna ran so Rem could walk. - Oh my gosh. - I will stand by that. - Man, I don't really,

- I feel like it's gonna cook so hard like you said that I don't wanna put it in 25 'cause I feel like it's gonna climb. But right now I just don't wanna put it anywhere. I don't think I would put it- - Yeah, it's hard to place. - I don't think I would put it in my top 50 right now. - It's definitely hard to place. Are we comparing asana to ring? - Okay. - Well, while you do that, what's the next one? Just so we can have a look.

- The next one is Noragami at 27 is fucking insane to me. - I think the opening is- - Oh, openings are amazing. - The opening is doing a lot of heavy lifting. - Yeah. - 'Cause that opening was so goddamn popular. - So good.

- So also it was another one of those shows where it was everyone's thumbnail. Oh, everyone's profile picture. The main guy from Noragami. - Yeah, yeah, yeah. - It was always, you'd go on any online website, everyone had Noragami as their profile picture. - Yeah, yeah. - I will- - It was mostly Tumblr though, wasn't it? - A lot of Tumblr did a lot of heavy lifting. - I'm feeling like Tumblr, seeing Tokyo Ghoul and seeing Noragami, I'm like, damn, Tumblr did a lot of heavy lifting. - Noragami also had like a lot of style.

- And the time it came out, I think it was quite unique at the time it came out. - I think, yeah, admittedly, I did have a lot of fun watching "Norigami" season one, especially. Just because it was just such a fun, lighthearted, really aesthetic show as well. But like just, it wasn't the most interesting or compelling in terms of story. And then "Norigami" season two just started to fucking drag on. - Was this popular in Japan?

- I believe so, yeah. - This is like, I watched "Norigami" and I'm like,

- This was a fine show that I almost have no opinion of. And then I see it the 27th most popular and I'm like, why? How did this happen? Why this show? - Totally. - Why the fuck? Like what about Noragami stood out to get this popular? I literally have no idea. - Yeah. - It's like, it's not a bad show, but I just- - It's just uninteresting. - I don't even remember much about it. - Yeah. - The only thing I remember,

Wait, so that's comparing Arsenal to Ram? What time period is that? This is 2000... Past five years. Past five years? Yeah, I mean, Arsenal just fell off. Yeah, Arsenal did fell off, but what... Like, what about when...

- What was the peak when Asuna just kind of launched compared to the peak of when Rem? - I think the peak Rem. - It would have been season one, right? So 2011. - Okay, so "Norigami", I don't even think I put it in my top 100. - No, no, I wouldn't even put it in my top 100. - Another one I wouldn't fucking put anywhere on this goddamn list is "Erased". - Another incredibly overrated show in my opinion. - How the hell is this so hot?

- One of the wonders of the universe that this man managed to get a show this high up. - It just baffles my mind that there were literally 2 million people on Mal who watched "Erased," got to the ending and went, "Ain't no way!" Like it wasn't the most obvious fucking thing on the planet. - 8.3 for the show is insane. - That is crazy. - That is so high. - It's insane because- - 2 million?

- Yeah, I mean, it was pretty popular when it aired back in the day. I think the problem with a, you know, sometimes you're like, oh, it's not about the destination, it's about the journey. Probably the race is when you set up a mystery like a race and that mystery just does not- - You have to land the- - Yeah, you know, I don't care if I get to the wrong station occasionally, but if my fucking train lands in a fucking crater and I die, then I would consider that you fumbled the end of it.

You know what I mean? - It's Asuna, not Asuka. - It's Asuka, yeah. - It should be Asuna. - My girl, not my girl. - Yeah, I mean, Ren came out like,

So if you do, now you gotta- - Ain't no way. - Just RAM, just RAM. - Yeah, just RAM, RAM. - And then past 12 months, change that to like all time. - Yeah, yeah. Let's see what it's like. - 2004, present, yeah, that should help. 'Cause then we should see Ash in a higher. - Ain't no way. - Ain't no way, what the fuck? - Wait, that can't be right. - Oh no, RAM is probably talking about like the band or like- - Oh! - Ravid eye movement. - And then search term, how do you- - RAM re-zero.

- Oh yeah, there you go, there you go, the bottom, the bottom. - Yeah, there we go. - Okay, so we should, okay. - Oh, there we go, that makes more sense. - Okay, yeah. - It never passed. It never passed asana. - Whoa. - Not a single time it passed asana. - All right, I was like sweating for a second. I was like, I was like, oh my God. - Everything I know is a lie. - Your rim supremacy has been a lie this whole time. - Maybe I am full of shit.

- Okay, let's go back. Anyway, back to the list. - Let's get back to the list. Another one which baffles my fucking mind is- - We should do most popular waifus next time. - Oh my God. - I can make a kill? You guys all shit on it, I'm here to defend it. - All right, all right. - Please enlighten me. - It's not bad. - Why? Why is it not bad? - I kinda liked it. I also was- - Did you have a-

- How old were you when you watched it? - Yeah, how old were you when you watched it? - I was like seven. - How old was I in 2014 July? I would have been, I would have just turned fucking- - 17, right?

- No, sorry, what am I saying? - I can't math, bro. - Yeah, you're born- - I would've been 18. - 18, yeah. - Yeah, so I think to me, I was like, yeah, this shows for me. I also liked that he was fucking the main girl. - It's okay, I liked Elf and Leed when it came out. - It's the same thing. - This is the same shit. - I think 'cause it's like, it did,

- It copied "Halo Reach." I'm saying. And "Halo Reach" is fine. - The thing about "Akeme" is like, I can understand why teenagers fucking- - I fucking, as a teen, I fucking loved it. - You think this is deep because yo, they're killing off characters? Oh my God, this is so deep. I can't tell what would happen. Everyone, who's gonna die next? Ain't no way, it's that girl. - It was dumb fun. And unfortunately the worst part of the show is Akame. She's fucking boring.

- I mean, most of the characters were boring in my opinion. - No, I like some of them. - Main characters boring as shit. - Yeah, main character. - Akamai was boring. - The main character's hentai main character material. - I mean, if I remember most of the characters I felt were just like, I didn't even get enough time to know them before they just got killed off, which was like the big thing, which was just like, oh, this is just,

this person is just a trope. Haha, sad backstory. Haha, they're dead. - Admittedly, when I started watching "Archimeda Kill" and I didn't know anything about it, it was just another seasonal show that I decided to start watching. Like when they did start killing off the first couple of characters, I was like, oh, okay. - This is cool. - Okay, this might go somewhere. And then every second episode they're killing off, I'm like, all right, I get it, I get it. - It was the one weakness of it is that you knew it was coming because they'd set it up so that it kept happening. - It got old very quickly. - Yeah.

but it was, it started strong. And as much as I liked the show, 'cause I watched it when I was a teenager, I wouldn't put it in top 100. - No. - It doesn't deserve to be on this list. - This is the show that you go to as a 14 to 18 year old kid. - Yeah, you're like, "Elfin Leeds? "I'm outgrowing that." - Yeah. - "I Can Make a Kill." - Yeah, "I Can Make a Kill," "Mirai Nikki," "Elfin Leeds," they're all the same. - Yeah. - Yeah, they're all the same. - They're all the same. - Talking about "Angel Beats." - I mean,

- In some senses, I think this is a classic, but in other senses, I think it's far too high. - I think, yeah, the only reason, I mean, I have a lot of nostalgia for this show, obviously, and I have a lot of bias as a "Mind of June" fan. I personally really liked it. Do I think it's "Mind of June's" best work? No, but I mean,

I don't know, number 30 is a tough spot. - Yeah, 'cause it's kind of like, it's good, but I don't know. - It's good, but it's acknowledging that it's not the best, right? Because it is a solid show. - Solid. - I think I would be okay with it at 30, but I probably would put it lower, but I think I'm okay with it. - I would put it lower because I think that,

- I think that's the ending. To me, it felt like you had a really good run and then it just ended, fumbled. And then cancer again. - I think 13 episode wasn't enough. I think it should have been more. - Let's speed off a little bit. - Seven deadly sins at 31 above Mob Psycho. It just gives me an aneurysm. - That is kind of wild that it's,

- It was that popular. - That's crazy. - But Seven Deadly Sins, when it was airing, was so popular. - That's crazy. - It was so, so popular. And season two, when they introduced Escanor, it only got even more popular. Everyone was fucking on board. Everyone was hype, even though Meliodas is the worst protagonist of all time. And then season three came out. - Season three, they shit the bed. - Which honestly, it feels like a fitting end for Meliodas as a character who is a dog shit character to be treated as dog shit by the anime.

- Yeah. - It feels fitting. - I never understood the appeal of Seven Deadly Sins to begin with. - Yeah. - I've not watched the second season, but I've watched the first season. It took me a lot to get through this first season. - It's shit.

You know what I'm seeing? I'm seeing Akamega Kill, Seven Deadly Sins and now Mirai Nikki. And I'm like, ah, the 14 year old army is strong. - Where's fairytale? The only thing that's missing is fairytale. - We all know that Mob Psycho should be much higher. - Mob Psycho is good and I think it's one of the best modern anime to come out period. I think it's the best anime maybe of the 20, like of the 20 last decade. It's one of the best anime of the last decade.

- "Mirai Nikki" above "Assassination Classroom" is fucking wild. - That is a show that just did something that no other show did at the time. And they cemented the Yandere trope. - That is true. - And they did it so, they committed so fully to the Yandere trope before anyone else did. And it was kind of like almost revolutionary in that sense, but it was a bad show. - "Mirai Nikki" ruined an entire generation of boys. - Oh yeah.

- Oh yeah, oh yeah. - My fucking God. - It did convince me that it was like, yeah, maybe she's worth it. Maybe I will ruin my life for her. - I think Mira Nikki is like the point zero of the I can fix her. - Mira Nikki made everybody forget the age old saying of don't stick your dick in crazy. - It turned from don't stick your dick in crazy to I can fix her. This is the turning point. This is the canon event of this like real life law where boys were like, I can fix her.

- But man, from a conceptual level, what a fucking cool idea for a show. I fucking really liked it. - Again, really cool idea for a show. - I enjoyed watching it. I had a lot of fun with it. I can see why it's 33, but yeah, I mean. - I just think it was, especially in the second half, it just got a little bit too try hardy for me. It took itself way too seriously. - "Assassination Classroom." - Okay, I personally am pretty happy with "Assassination Classroom" being on here because I think this is constantly underrated.

in terms of a Shonen show. I think not a lot of people think about "Assassination Cluster" when they think of Shonen shows, but I think "Assassination Cluster" is a really solid show. - I'm happy to have it up there. - I really enjoyed watching it. - I've not seen it, but I've not really heard anyone say anything bad about it or that it's overrated. - And it's on online too, what the fuck? - Oh, we don't talk about that. - Don't talk about that. - Haikyuu, this is the highest rated sports anime, I guess, or most popular sports anime. - Yeah, yeah, I think the only modern sports anime I think

I think the one that I prefer over Haikyuu, not counting people in the animation is probably Hajime no Ippo. But Haikyuu, I think, okay, the difference between Haikyuu and Hajime no Ippo is that

the characters in "Hajime no Ippo" are just fucking ugly. - It's boxing, bro. The characters are ugly. - And it is an older manga as well. - Okay, there's that. But okay, you compare the characters in "Hajime no Ippo", like the fucking, it's like comparing Wayne Rooney to Cristiano Ronaldo.

- That's such a British reference. - It's like there's this one man who has been molded with fucking testosterone and then there is like the perfect specimen of like who had, who could probably be like a fucking K-pop idol if he wanted to be, you know? That's like Hajime no Ippo versus Haikyuu. - That's true. - Yeah. - I haven't seen Haikyuu yet so I can't say anything about it. I would like to get into it eventually. - Although I kind of fell out of it, I can understand why it was very popular and I'm fine with it being popular.

- I've only heard good things about it. - "Promise Neverland," holy fucking dog L. - "Promise Neverland," I mean- - Dog L? - Dog shit L, bro, that's yeah. - Are you serious? - I did not fuck with it. - I thought, okay. - Wait, wait, wait, wait, why?

because they'd set up this really cool mystery and then it turned out to be stupid and not fun. And season two was the worst thing I've ever watched in my life. - Okay, but this is talking about season one. - Yeah, okay. - I'm thinking about the show as a whole. - Oh yeah, yeah, yeah. - Oh, you watched season two? - I watched a little bit and I was like, I'm out. - I mean, yeah, the show definitely fumbled the bag in season two, but if we're just talking season one, which is what this position is, I thought the first 12 episodes of "Promised Neverland" were pretty solid.

- Is it the best written like horror mystery, you know, supernatural show? - Okay. - No, but- - I only had like, I think it's pretty fucking damn good. Okay, my biggest problem- - Yeah, but they fucked it. - Yeah, my biggest problem with "Promised Neverland" was never the mystery aspect of it, 'cause I do think it was a pretty damn good mystery and has one of the best hooks, one of the best hooks in episode one, I think, in the anime. It was just the fact that,

it threw my suspension of disbelief to its absolute limit. - Yeah. - Like these kids are 12. - Yeah, these kids are 12 and there is like some plot points at the end of season one where I'm like, you remember what? That's possible? - It would have worked a little better if they were just like four or five years older. - Yeah. - I think it would have all tied together more. Same thing with "Tokyo Revengeance." - Yeah, just, yeah, I feel like,

Season two had potential if it didn't skip some of the best arcs in the manga. I do think the manga fell off a bit in the ending, but for the most part, it's pretty damn good. - All right. - And then we have OG Bleach. - Which I guess we've already talked about. - Yeah, we've already talked about that. - What a super at 40. - I'm sure of that. - I'm happy with that. - I think 40, it'd probably be in my top 25, I think. - I would probably put a little bit higher.

Season one was fucking awesome. And a great introduction to the series. - Fucking Blue Exorcist. - And Blue Exorcist. - But this is again, this show was so, so popular in the West. - Was it? - Yeah, online. - I have never had a, I'm saying this, I've never had a conversation with anyone about Blue Exorcist.

I was in the black Butler fandom, all right? I'm telling you. Trust me, this show was very popular with that same- - Is Tumblr carrying again? Was this a Tumblr show? - It was huge on Tumblr. Yeah, this was like a really, really popular show, you know, way, way back. - But this was also an incredibly popular show in Japan as well. - Oh really? - This was massive in Japan when it came out. And I think, look, I don't hate the show. I just think it's the most like okay,

- It's mid, I'll say. - It is mid. - Yeah, it's pretty mid. - It's not shit, but it's not like number 41 on the greatest anime of all time. - How do I say, I'm not saying mid in a derogatory term. I'm saying it is bog standard average. - It's in the middle.

- It's a 7.5 on Mal, which is literally the five. - Yeah, pretty much. - For fuck sake, just call it Parasite. - Parasite. - For God's sake. - Okay. - Why would they call it this? What's wrong with you? - A lot of people liked Parasite. I thought- - I love Parasite. - You love Parasite? - I fuck with it so much. - Sell me on Parasite. - Okay, first of all, dubstep.

- Connor, that's music. - How can you tell? - It's literally Beeps and Boobs. - Yeah, but dubstep is the most Beeps and Boobs you're having music. - I've watched these fights in fucking narrow to one piece. I'm fucking. The fucking. I was like. The fact that,

I don't know, I just fucked with it. I thought it was such a cool idea. I thought it was so fucking fun. - I think, yeah, I think the one thing I appreciate the most about the Parasite anime is just how much they decided to deviate from the original manga, but still did it in a solid way. - My favorite part is when he fucking becomes cool and swag. - I know, I was gonna say this- - I fucking love it. - This did Tokyo Ghoul before it was cool. The fucking, all you need to do is just,

- Yes. - But that's what I appreciate it, right? 'Cause in the original manga, he starts off cool and swag. There's no transformation. So like the fact that they, in the anime, they decided to like kind of start him off as this like wimpy, scared, confused character to then,

upon the development, get him to be more confident in himself was interesting. - I just really, really enjoyed Parasite. I remember a lot of fun with it. Yes, the dubstep was kind of annoying and I wish they had gone with a different direction, but I still had so much fun. And the concept was cool. - The concept was cool. - I really, really loved the concept. - The concept was cool. - Well, I will say I am upset that the anime missed out on my favorite panel in the manga where Miggy turns into a giant cock. - Damn. - I was looking forward to that and they cut that shit out of the anime. - I honestly would like it a little bit higher.

- Really? - I think it'd be in my top 30. - Because to me- - Also the opening is banger. - Oh, the opening is banger. - Banger. - I think I'm like the one person that just- - Didn't fuck with it? - I didn't dislike it. I just don't remember. - That's fair. - There were like no scenes in that that I really remember or really like hit me. And I don't know if I was just in the wrong place to watch it. I was just like, yeah, it's fine. This was like my Noragami, I guess, where I was like, I don't understand. - I just realized that "Cowgirl" and "Evangelion" are both in the-

- Yeah. - That's crazy. - And "Spirited Away." - "Spirited Away" I don't know. Movies don't get rated as good on this kind of stuff. I am so shocked that "Cowboy Bebop" and "Evangelion" are that low. - Yeah, I would have expected them to be at least in the top 20. - I'm surprised that "Parasite" is more popular than "Cowboy Bebop." - Yeah, that's wild. - That is crazy. But I guess, 'cause I think people who watch "Parasite" really fucking fell in love with it.

Whereas people who watch Cowboy Bebop, I feel like almost watching out of obligation and almost saying, again, it's a social media website, right? So saying, oh yeah, Cowboy Bebop is one of my favorites. It's like, okay, what else do you like? Bread? You know what I mean? - I also have eyes. I actually don't. - So I'm not surprised. - Oh my God. - Tokyo Ghoul Root A is crazy. - Tokyo Ghoul Root A above death parade is fucking wild. - I thought everyone, and Violet Evergarden.

- A fairy tale? That's wild. - Ain't no way, what is this? - This is such a whack list. - What the fuck is this? - You know what, maybe Tumblr dying was the right decision, guys. 'Cause then we don't have to deal with shit like this. - I can't believe. - I never watched it, I've never gotten it. It just felt like crying bait for me. - Oh, it is gorgeous. What a gorgeous series. - It is gorgeous. - It just seemed like crying bait though.

- My hot take about Violet Evergarden is that my favorite parts of Violet Evergarden was the stories that didn't have anything to do with the main character. I loved the side stories and that was my favorite part of Violet Evergarden. - I will say Death Parade should, for me, is in the top 20. - Death Parade should be way higher. - I like Death Parade so much. - But you know, I will count it as a W that Death Parade somehow beat Fairy Tail. - Let's go!

- I had forgotten about fairy tales. I'm kind of sad that I had to remember it right now. - Yeah. - All right. Well, that's all of the anime popularity and we rated them. I hope you enjoyed that. - Yeah. Let us know your opinions about anything we said down in the comments below. And hey, look at all these patrons. I'm sure they have absolutely appropriate, fantastic taste in anime and they'll be more than happy to let us know their great tastes. - Wait, wait, wait, wait. I just realized.

- JoJo was not in either of those lists. - Yeah, I'm kind of shocked about that. - What? - That's kind of tough. - Wow. - JoJo fans were like, "We're above." - I think because maybe people wouldn't put the first season in their favorites. So there's so many parts and they're weird. So I feel like it'd be hard. I'm coping. - It's more of a cult fan base. - It's really like a small, people don't really know about it. - There are a lot of shows, I'm surprised, for the honest. - People in the anime JoJo's Bizarre Adventure. - Never heard of it.

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