God, let me do my makeup first. Oh, this is going to be used, isn't it?
- What's up ladies and gentlemen, boys and girls and welcome to the first episode of the Trash Taste podcast. - Hell yeah. - The official first episode. - The official first episode. We finally made it. I'm your host for today, Joey and joining me every week is Garnt and Connor. - Hey guys. - So yeah, it's finally happening. - It's finally happening. Oh my God. You do not know how long we've been planning this and how long we wanted this to happen. - This shit, like how long has it been?
- I mean, we've been conceptualizing this podcast for like what? Over a year. - Yeah, it's been a year, at least possibly years. - 'Cause I mean, when we decided we were gonna move to Japan, I think the first thing in our mind was, well, we gotta make a podcast. - Yeah, yeah, yeah. - But I think even before that, the idea of just us,
finally getting into a room and just, you know, not doing a one-off collab, but doing like a continual collab has been, you know, in our minds for ages. - Yeah, I wanna say several years at least. At least almost as known as like, as long as I've known you. We were always like, you know what would be really cool? A podcast. - I'm just left out here.
- I was tacked on at the end. - Let's talk about that. Like how we first met each other because I think that's a good introduction to this podcast and how we've grown. - Yes, because you never know there might be someone watching who doesn't know like, who's that guy? Who's that guy? Who's this guy? - Exactly right. - Hi, I'm Connor. I run a channel. - I'd be pretty surprised if there is someone watching this first episode who doesn't know like all three of us. - Yeah, exactly.
- Maybe, or maybe they've seen us. - If you did, then can you please tell us in the comments below how you found this video? - 'Cause we're just so famous that you have no excuse for not knowing who we are. - I swear. So yeah, let's actually, you know what, before we talk about that, we should probably talk about what this podcast is. - Oh yeah. - It's true. - We're just like rushing into these 'cause we're so excited to finally-
- I just wanna talk, okay? I just wanna talk. - We're so excited to get this thing off the ground. So basically, Trash Taste, as the name implies, is a podcast where we, us three, and maybe sometimes even a guest, you never know, comes onto the show and we basically talk about
our trash taste, whether it comes to anime, manga, just otaku culture in general, or you never know. We might talk about whatever the fuck we want. Who knows? - Yeah, 'cause if you didn't know, we are all like anime YouTubers. - No way. - No, no. Bruh. This guy called the Anime Man is maybe an anime- - You should've dug your hole with that one. - Yeah, I really fucked myself with that one, definitely. This guy called CdogVar, which- - Oh God. - What does var stand for?
- Virginia is all the comments seem to think. - He's from Virginia guys. - It's okay 'cause the amount of years that I still get comments, which is like, they call me Gig UK and not Giga. I mean, listen, people might call you Gig UK but I still know you as the anime's name, okay?
- That AZ in the thumbnails, in the old thumbnails, that's how I knew I was watching an Anime Zone video. - I'm actually curious, how long have you been watching my videos? Because this ties into how we first met as well. - I've known you, I mean, I obviously, as I said, I've known you since the Anime Zone.
- That's a long time. - Which is like a long time. But I think I watched you probably not knowing that you were like this YouTube personality because- - Yeah, same. - 'Cause I was in a weird state. I don't think I discovered YouTubers until maybe about 2011 maybe. Because they've been around for a long time since then. And obviously you've been around since then. But I never went onto YouTube being like, "I'm gonna go check out my favorite YouTuber."
I kind of just use YouTube up until around 2011. I think I just use YouTube as to like either watch music or listen to music videos or just to like, oh, this is an interesting looking video. And I think a couple of your videos were like the interesting looking ones. I think I remember actually the first video I ever watched from you surprisingly was not Ava Bridge. - Oh shit. - I know. I watched Ava Bridge when I like the idea of a huge,
- And a bridge series. - A YouTuber came around, yeah. And I was like, oh, a breeding, that sounds fun, but tedious as fuck. But no, I think the first video I watched from you was,
- Oh God, I probably wanna say it's the "Summer Wars" review you did. - Oh my God. - Like the one you did in like 2008. - That's going so far back, what the fuck man? - I never even saw your "Ever a Bridge." 'Cause I hadn't watched "Ever," so I was like, why would I watch the "Ever a Bridge?" I don't even know what this "Ever a Bridge" is. Why would I watch that? So I think I watched some of your stuff. I just knew you always, "The British one." - Yeah.
- The British, that was my brand name. - Yeah, 'cause there was like Tristan and then you in my mind. I think that was it to a lot of people when, at least when I got into it like 2013, I started watching YouTube a lot, especially anime stuff. - Right.
- Yeah. - So how long have you been doing YouTube for? - I've been doing it since 2007. - He's like an actual OG. - I would have to like trace back, but I'm thinking I'm like the fifth ever anime YouTuber of all time. Might be like fourth or fifth, but I've been there since the beginning. I can recite the entire history of AniTube.
- Which we're definitely gonna do in like a future podcast episode. - Not for this episode, because there's a lot to say. But for now, like I remember the first, I can't remember what the exact first video I saw from you, Joey, but I remember your videos just getting recommended to me constantly. And I'm just like, my first thought was,
how has no one taken the handle with the anime now? I've been on YouTube for so many fucking years and just now someone is called the anime, there's no fucking way. - No, but the thing is someone did take the handle anime. - Oh, okay. - Because that's why like,
even my YouTube URL and my Twitter and everything, it's The Anime Man, but instead of an I, it's a one. Because somebody on Facebook, Twitter, Instagram, YouTube, someone took The Anime Man. It was this guy who never uploaded any videos and he's been around since 2007. And so I was just like, "Oh man, you are such a son of a bitch." So I was like, "Well, what am I gonna do? "All right, fuck it, I'll just replace it with a one."
- Somehow that caught on. I don't know how the fuck, but yeah. I mean, I regret that name. Let's be honest. - I mean, it works for SEO, right? Because the reason I was called the anime zone is because- - You were an anime. - Yeah, yeah. - Because he was in the zone. - Back in the day when you could just type in anime and it was just all my videos. I'm like, man, I've won this game. I'm playing the game correctly. - And then I came along and I was like, hold my beer. - Exactly. You're in the zone, I'm the man.
- But I remember the first time I was, I mean, I don't think I ever saw one of your videos. The first time I heard about you Connor was actually when you auditioned for one of my abridged series.
- Oh really? - Yeah, yeah, yeah. So I haven't told this story to Joey yet. So I did a casting call for one of the In Minutes videos, right? And I told people to send in their demo videos. - I'm trying to remember what this was now 'cause I don't remember what it was. - It's going all the way back. And so I asked people to send in their demo reel and most people send in their demo reel and this guy, this fucker doesn't even send in a demo reel. He just sends in a YouTube video of him doing League of Legend character impressions
- Okay, wait, let me explain as to why you should also never do that yourself. - Yeah, yeah, don't do that. - When someone asks for demos, send a demo reel.
- Yeah, no, I think at the time I didn't have a character demo reel. To be fair, I still don't have a character demo reel because I never needed it. Okay, here's the thing as well. A lot of character demos on Twitter, you'll hear them. They're really, really bad. And the thing is when you're making it yourself, you don't have anyone to say like, "Hey, this voice kind of sucks." So like every time I've made a professional demo, I've had like a director who's like hand chosen every scene and told me what to do. And then it sounds good 'cause someone who can hear your voice and be like, "Oh, do this and that."
Back then I didn't know that. And this was before I started doing a lot of professional stuff and that.
- It's a great way to introduce yourself to someone. This is why, okay, this is also another thing. You shouldn't send a demo to someone if it's garbage, 'cause you're gonna, like this guy still remembers that shit. - I remember because he was the only person who didn't send a demo reel, but just sent a YouTube video of him doing impressions. Never send, like if there is a checklist of things not to send for a demo, do not send character impressions. - That's such a big dick move. It's like, I don't even know.
- My impressions are good enough. So I mean, do you remember which characters you did? - I think so. I think there were like, it was just a bunch of the manly guys from League of Legends. - Just anyone with a low voice. - Yeah. - Wow, what a surprise. - I did Lux too. I remember I did Lux.
- No, it's like, it's been awesome seeing you how far you've come from sending in a character impression reel to like- - God, that was like, that must have been just like a year or two after I started as well. And I still like, you think that you figure stuff out after a year, but like you realize when you look back, like you still, you didn't know shit. - Because what year did you start? - YouTube? YouTube I started 2015, 2015. - 2015. - 2015, I started voice acting.
- Really? In like 2013, late 2014. So that gave me a big advantage. I went into it with like a great microphone. - Yeah, yeah, yeah. - Which a lot of people don't. - 'Cause you had that voice acting back then. - Yeah, yeah, yeah. And funny enough how I met you, I actually have the email I sent to him. - Wait, what? - Wait, wait, wait, what? You have an email? - I have the email. - Before we started recording this, we were gonna talk about like how we all met one another. This guy was like, "I don't think Joey remembers the first time we met."
- I think I do though. - Okay, do you want me to read the email that I sent you? - Yeah, go for it. - Okay, this is what I had. - Wait, you sent it to me, right? - Yeah, yeah, so this was about like, it must've been like four months into me doing YouTube. And I think I had like maybe 30, 40K subs at this point. - Right, yeah, yeah. - I think Joey, I think he had like 900K at this time. - Probably. - It was something like, you had a lot. Like way more than I had. And so I sent you an email saying, wow, this is so informal.
- Hello, there my name is Connor or CdogVA on YouTube. Wait, this doesn't make any sense grammatically. Or CdogVA on my, I need to use commas. Hello there, my name is Connor or CdogVA on YouTube, channel here. - Channel here. - Okay, here's where it starts to get real cringy. I've been working on a Levi versus Sebastian rap battle.
- I remember that. - Okay, wait, I'll finish it then I'll explain. And it is about 90% complete. I noticed you recently did a rap battle and it was well done. Wow, I couldn't have kissed your ass more here. It's more of an insulting each other character rap. I have the voice of Sebastian Michaelis English dub down to a T. Wow, that's really cool. - Wow, wow, wow. - And I was wondering if you'd like to be Levi. If you wish to talk to me more about the...
- About it and the logistics, feel free to contact me on Skype. - The logistics. - What logistics? - I wanted to sound professional as fuck. Or just reply to this email. Any response is appreciated. Kind regards, Cdogvier. I don't even use my real name, Cdogvier. And then Jerry replied saying, "Hi there. Sure sounds like fun, smiley face. I added you on Skype, we can talk about it." And I remember the first thing that Jerry sent me was like, "Yo, your voice is cool as fuck." And I was like, "Damn." - I still think that to this day. - So that's how I like,
- And to this day, I thought that was so cool that you actually replied, 'cause I'm not gonna lie, I'm kind of mean. When I see a video, normally when it's like collab, it's normally like- - It's normally like a . - Normally it's like, I don't know what I wanna do yet, but I wanna collab. And it's like, what do you mean you don't know what you wanna do yet? You're pitching an idea to me. So that's why I'm at you. - Yeah, I fucking remember that too because yeah, the rap battle I did was so bad, don't watch it.
- It was pretty bad. - It was pretty fucking bad. At the time, it was the first time I ever used the green screen in my video. And like, because I was in like my tiny bedroom in Australia, there was no place to like prop up the green screen. So what I had to do, this is so ghetto. What I had to do was I had to get the green screen and literally like tape it to the ceiling. - I've done exactly the same thing before, man. - And just like let it droop down.
and just stand in front of it. And like, I had no lights and you can see my shadow fucking flickering in and out the whole video. I obviously couldn't rap at the time either. I'm a little bit better now, but yeah, it was a, what was it? It was a light.
- No, it was L from Death Note versus Lelouch from Code Games. - Right, I remember it, yeah. - And I played Lelouch and another friend of mine played L. And I think that video has like half a million views. I don't know how. - Yeah. - I mean, this is back when it was like epic rap battles of history. - Yeah, we basically wanted to do an epic rap battles of history but with no cosplay. It's just two dudes rapping in front of a green screen.
- Checks out, that's like 2015 YouTube. - Yeah, but basically like that kind of somehow popped off on my channel and then yeah, and then you messaged me about it. - 'Cause I actually was writing that with Gray Fox at the time. Amazing guy. And I thought like, we had like a banger. We had like so many, like Gray Fox had made the tracks for a massive amount
there were many beats and they were amazing. - Sending emails, that's such a boom away to slide into someone's DMs. - Now it's Twitter. - Not to mention we added each other on Skype. The good old days of Skype. - And then I think like your Skype account got hacked or something at some point. - It did, it got hacked twice.
- I know how I met you, but it was weird 'cause I think Sydney, I saw Sydney was following me. - Yeah, she snapped my fiance. - Yeah, and I think I followed her back 'cause I knew of Sydney and then Sydney DM'd me. She'll say that she didn't, Sydney DM'd me first. And she was like, "You're going to MCM, "which is a convention in London." And I'm like, "Yeah, okay." And then Sydney was like, "Oh, come to this meetup, "you can meet me in Gaunt." I didn't get to meet Gaunt 'cause he was too busy.
So I turned up like an idiot. It was like, hi, I'm like C-Dawg and stuff. And everyone's like, who the fuck, who are you? At the time I had like 200K subscribers. So it was like a substantial amount for that time period. - Well, it was funny because you had an audience that was vastly different from every other anime YouTuber. - I mean, still like that to this day. - Yeah, yeah, that's true. - I reckon. - It's gone like a lot less. So at the time in around 2000,
the peak of it at 2014, I had a 93% female audience. - Which is unheard of. - His nickname when we first met him was the 93%. - Yeah. - We were just like, how's the 90% doing? - I'm okay. I got bullied for it. - I really want to start calling you that from now.
- It's like 55, 60% now. It's leveled out a lot. - It's because you didn't join JoJo. - Yeah, it was crazy though. And that's like all the YouTubers in anime were all dudes. There was like one or two girls, but it was all dudes. So every time I turned up to like an AniTuber meetup, everyone was like, "Who the fuck is this guy?"
- How has he got 200K? How did he get that? How do none of us know who he is? - Why does this guy from Virginia? - What the fuck? - Yeah, so I mean, that's how I met Gon and then we went from there really. - Yeah, can I tell the story about how the first time we met in person? - Yeah, sure. - Yeah, 'cause- - 'Cause I don't know where you're gonna start this story from. - Okay, so the first time we met in person, so...
It was like AX 2000 and is it 17? - It was 16 or 17. - I think so, I knew Joey.
I didn't know that he knew who I was. - Right, and vice versa. I knew Garnt, but I didn't know if he knew me. - Yeah, so this was back when I had, like, if you didn't know, I took a hiatus on YouTube for like two years because I got a real time, a real job and everything like that. And in that time I had gone from being like one of the most popular anime YouTubers to just, you know, just someone who had taken a hiatus
in that time Joey had like exploded. Like you reached numbers that back in my time I didn't know was even fucking possible. Like you were like close to a million, you were like,
like hot shit at the time. - Yeah. - So the first time I saw Joey, we were like in little Tokyo or something. - Yeah, I remember exactly where it was too. It was that part in like the back half of little Tokyo. It's like underneath a building and you go into where the,
It's like a figurine shop at the end. And you were walking with Jeff, right? - Yeah, yeah, that's right, Jeff. 'Cause I think Jeff said hello to Misty 'cause they're both tall motherfuckers. - They're like two meters tall. - So he was just like standing next to two fucking skyscrapers while we're just hanging out. And I remember looking at you and you looked at me and we didn't say shit to each other.
I thought this motherfucker must hate me. This motherfucker hates me. - And at the same time, Garnt and I looked at each other in the eyes and in my head I was like, this guy definitely hates me. This guy hates my guts. So I'm just like, man, Joey's such an arrogant piece of shit, man. I can't believe this guy. - I remember we shook hands. We were like, hi, I'm Joey, nice to meet you. And you were like, hi, I'm Garnt, nice to meet you. And that was it. - And that was it.
- It was so awkward. - I never heard this story. - Well, because the only people who were there was Misty, Jeff and Aki, I think and us two. So it was like very small. And then what, like fast forward, like what, two years? - I think it was just, I think it was next year. It might've been even less than that when I came to Egypt, went onto a trip to Japan or something.
- And you randomly DM'd me. - Yeah, yeah, yeah. I was like, for some reason he follows me. So maybe he doesn't hate me. - Maybe he's cool. - Maybe he's cool. So yeah, we DM'd each other and then we met in Japan and then we just like instantly, instantly just like,
- Fucking great friends from that point. - We went to an, no, we met up in Akihabara and we like hung out a little bit and then we went to an izakaya in Ueno till like two in the morning or something, like something ridiculous like that. We missed the last train. And then we were like- - Wow, it sounds like a romance. - I know. - We missed the last train. We had so much fun together. - 'Cause we had the moment when we just, we were sitting in the izakaya and I was like, "I thought you hated me."
And I was like, "I thought you hated me." - We don't hate each other, high five. - And then after that, we had like a karaoke night where we- - Yeah, I think it was like a few days later. - Yeah, and I think that's when the seeds of the podcast was sown, I think, because we were up to, we missed the last train and we were just with karaoke with each other and Sydney and there was like two other people. - Yeah. - And then,
everyone else had fallen asleep, but it was just us two and one other guy. It was like 5:00 AM. - I don't even remember who the other guy was. - I don't remember either. - Poor guy. - He wasn't like a friend of Garnt or mine. He was just a dude. - He didn't know who we were. Like he didn't know that we were like anime YouTubes or anything. So we were up at 5:00 AM drunk as shit. And then me and Joey just start hosting this panel for this one guy.
- We each had like a karaoke microphone each, like echoing shit. We were just like, welcome to the panel. And there's just one dude across the table being like, woo! - Yeah, he didn't know who we were, but we still just hosted this anime panel for him. I don't know if he, I didn't even know he,
if he watched anime or not. But I'm like, Joey, what's your opinion on "Bakkemonogatari"? Who is best girl? - That went off for like an hour. - Yeah, and this went on for like an hour. And then after that we were like, we need to host a panel together. And we managed to do that last year at AX. - Which was awesome. - First time, that was amazing. - Yes. - Yeah, like two, three years in the making. And in between that, we were like,
- Surely we got to make a podcast sometime. - And here we are after fucking what? Three or four years from like first conception. And like even like planning this whole podcast out as well, like took a very, very long time. - Because this is actually a studio for it. - Yes, so we had to like get our own studios. As you can see, we're still working on it, but give us some time stick around for that. - Just like getting a studio in,
in Japan near Tokyo, my fucking God. Don't even get me started on how hard that was, okay? - It's fucking impossible. - I'm sure we can talk about in future our experiences with just renting and stuff in Japan, my God. But yeah, no. You know what's funny when you guys are like, you said you like just clicked like that after you guys started talking. It's so like, I think that happens easily when you're both like around the same like sub.
'Cause there's no question if you're trying to leech off each other. - Right. - Yeah, yeah. - 'Cause I remember like when I first started and when I was trying to like, when we were like first like hanging out, I always felt like, man, do they wonder if I'm just like a leech or something? 'Cause I had like 150, 200 and they had like million plus, right? So you just get this thing in your head. You're like, man, am I like leeching? Do they think that? But then like when you get like, I think now I don't give a shit 'cause like I- - I mean like concerning you and I, like we popped off
- Very naturally. Because spoiler, we never ended up doing that fucking rap battle. That just like disappeared because I think the first time I like publicly did something with you was on your stream. - Yeah, yeah, you did. - And we played Broforce together for like,
- Yeah, those highlights are still up on YouTube as well. - Oh really? - Yeah, they are, yeah. And then I think we just, I played a lot of games on your stream with you. And then I think we just hung out at AX and just went. - 'Cause we played like Metal Slug and shit on my channel. - Oh yeah, Metal Slug's one of my favorite games. And then I think we just did British things and met up
and got drunk. - I feel like it's so easy to befriend other British people 'cause it's just like, we just get it, I don't know. - No, like going off to what you said about feeling like you're leeching from someone. It's weird, right? Because as someone who's been in the position of not being a smaller YouTuber and a larger YouTuber,
you can kind of get a sense just from meeting a person, especially if you meet them in real life, right? Online, it's so fucking difficult to gauge what a character, what someone's character is actually like. And, you know, if they're trying to, you know, bleach off fuel, get clout or whatever. But it's
- Especially at an event like AX. - Where the real person comes out. - Yeah, yeah, yeah. You can definitely get a better judge of character at a convention or meeting someone in real life, like a big event like AX. - I think there's also a lot with that is that when you're at AX, I think some people think, okay, I've only got five minutes with this guy and I've gotta like befriend him. So I think they like, sometimes they go overboard with like trying to impress you where it's like, what the?
the fuck is this guy? - I mean, one thing I've noticed with when it comes to like, 'cause I've been to so many conventions where like people have come up to me just for that like five minutes that they have time with somebody. It's like just, I don't wanna say kiss ass, but you know when someone's trying to kiss ass you, right? Or like, but like the thing is, is that like at least earlier on when I would meet people like that and they're trying to be nice to me during those five minutes, I didn't know if,
they were just trying to kiss my ass or if they were genuinely nice people. But the one way I've found it is if they can, I guess like try and maintain that friendship with you and try and stay contact with you after that event, then I think they're like genuinely nice people. - Yeah, because I don't wanna make it sound like we're all fucking assholes. - Just jaded cunts who don't like a fly or anything.
- I'm talking, hearing about how you just messaged Connor back from just that one email. I also remember the point when I would just try to like talk to everyone and clap everyone. But then you get to a point when you see that 90% of these emails and 90% of these people talking to you don't actually mean what they mean or looking for something. And you get a sense for that as time goes by.
- I feel like you just glance at an email now and you know what they're up to, like what they're trying to get at. - Usually if it starts with I'm 13 years old, then that's something you just need to instant delete. - Actually, here's a question for you. What's the weird, I know you've got some stories to this Connor. - Oh God. - What are some of like the weirdest fan emails you've ever received? - I get them every week. I like to say every week, but it's like,
- I've gotten somewhere it's just like, I genuinely think like I'm actually scared to open it. Even though there's like no attachments, no links or anything, not even a subject title. It's literally just, I open it and it says, you're cool.
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Or when they just send a link. That's creepy. Oh, yeah. Just send a link. It's like, do I click it?
- No, that's always a sauce. - Never click a link. - Yeah, yeah. - Man, I don't know. I've got so many stories, I guess, of emails. Because I guess it's my fault, 'cause I kind of encouraged it a little bit. - Yeah, yeah, yeah. - I've made multiple videos where I've got content from my emails. Sometimes it's good, but then also, I think now since I've joined an agency, I feel bad for the agency where they sometimes see the shit I get sent.
Luckily, I normally like delete the ones that I know are like just trolling before my agency can see it. 'Cause I don't want some Japanese worker opening my email and it being like, "Hey, I think you're dummy thick and I'm 13 by the way."
That's like you get stuff where they'll say like, they wanna date you and I'll put their 13. And like, it's just like, is this Chris Hansen? Is Chris Hansen emailing me? I think I've spoke about this in a video once, but there was someone who emailed me and I still remember this 'cause like I hadn't interacted, I replied to it. And it was this interaction where,
they sent me a script of phone sex that we were gonna have. So it was like, - What? - I actually still have the script. I'm not gonna read it out 'cause there's more to the story. The reason why I decided to not make it into a video, but it was like a script and it was first, it was one script was me and her and there was also a music set list that she'd chosen.
So there was when the music would play. - She had the music shows in an empty- - "Q in the End" by Linkin Park. - No, no, the worst part was it was like pour some like sugar on me. And like, it was, you know, like the cheesiest songs. - Yeah, yeah. - And so I thought in my head, 'cause back then I read all of them in depth and I thought, wow, this is a video idea if I can like keep this going. And there's also another script where it was me having gay sex with Sebastian Michaelis. - Of course.
- Of course. I mean, that would be expected. - It's funny that that's like not the weirdest story. - I'm surprised you didn't make a video
- Well, okay, so here's why, and I feel bad. I hope this person isn't watching. So I interacted with them a bit and they were like, obviously I knew they were gonna be strange, right? 'Cause who sends an email like that? And I started interacting with them more and more and then they started sending me way too much information about themselves. There was also another guy who sent me his birth certificate, by the way. That's a whole nother email. - What? - Don't do that. - Yeah, that's dangerous. - Don't do that. - I didn't ask for it. His opening email was, "Here's my birth certificate, driving license, address." And I was like, "What is wrong with you?"
I also mentioned this, I don't know which video I said, I mentioned all this, but yeah, so I replied to this person. I kept replying with them 'cause they kept replying with really funny stuff. And I was like, oh my God, I can get an amazing video out of this. And then, well, the one thing they said, which made me think, okay, now I just have to like completely scrap all this is that they said like, oh, here are my hobbies, hobbies, blah, blah, blah. By the way, I'm in the special Olympics team for the USA. And I was like, oh my God, what?
"No, no, no, no. "Why you shouldn't be sending me this?" And then I explained to them, I was like, "Hey, maybe you shouldn't send this email to me. "And I don't think this is like an appropriate way. "And I'm really sorry for like messing with your time "and stuff." And I just, it was a whole thing where I was like, "Oh my God, I'm an asshole and Jesus Christ." But yeah, there's so many emails where I've gotten where, I mean, I made a whole video where I went on a date with someone and I was like, "What is it?" A date from an email. - That was scary watching that video.
- You were like Connor's gonna get cancer. - I'm like this kid's gonna get stabbed. - I remember you pitching that video idea to me and I'm just like Connor, I don't know if that's the best idea, but I mean it turned out a good video. - Yeah, I pitched it to like 10 of our friends and everyone was like whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, Connor, Connor, no, don't do that, don't do that. - I love how Aki, my girlfriend was like genuinely worried for you. She's like I really don't think
- I think Connor's going to die. - I think if you watch the video, they felt more concerned for the girl 'cause we turned up with like me, Evan, Mudan and another guy and just one girl. - And just like one girl alone, right? So like, you know, but it was all wholesome in the end. It was all wholesome. She's really nice about it. And you know, she liked the video, so that was good. - Jesus Christ. - She just walked into our casting couch. - All right. - I guess like, I don't get so- - Top that, top that. - Yeah, exactly. I can't top that, I can't top that.
'cause I actually don't get that many weird emails or weird fan mails. I don't know, I guess it's 'cause I mostly talk about anime and it's less about my own personality, I guess. I don't know, I guess like one weird email I got recently, which wasn't even an email to me, right?
So someone used my email and pretended to be me and emailed Studio Wit. Okay, I got the email here actually. They emailed Studio Wit pretending to be me because they use my email and I got a notification from the official Studio Wit. Like, you know like the automatic notification that says, "Hey, you've submitted this email to us." Okay, so the email reads, "Hello, I am anime reviewer Gigguk
- I will make a request of you. Many people want Eren and Mikasa to have a relationship. Eren X Mikasa. I think if this happens, many people will enjoy the anime more.
- This has to be a troll. - I would be pleased with the development of events in this direction. That's how it was. I hope you will evaluate my proposal. I wish you good day. - I wish you good day. - This sounds like the email I sent Jack. Contact me for more so we can figure out the logistics. - We can figure out the logistics of Aaron X Mikasa.
- Oh my God. - You know, let's just completely bypass Isayama. Just go straight to Wit. - They have the final say. - Fuck you Isayama, we're doing this. - I like how they just emailed Studio Wit who has no creative control over how Attack on Titan is gonna end anyway. - I really want, I really wish that like Studio Wit took that email seriously and like actually hooked up Isayama being like, so this popular anime reviewer wants
- You know Gigguk, right? - You know Gigguk, right? Gigguk, okay? He wants Eren and Mikasa together. - Can you make this a thing? Can you please make this a thing? - Hey, season four of "Attack on Titan", I'm ready, I'm ready. - Hey, you never know, man. Like none of us have caught up on the manga, right? - No, no, no. - It might happen.
I feel like it's a crime to- - And if it does happen, we can thank a certain email. - If Aaron X and Mikasa is a thing, I know who caused this. - Fake gun gets all the credit. Jesus Christ. - Yeah, I think- - Should we break out the- - Oh, okay. - Break out the beers. This has been a long time coming. Welcome to Trash Taste Podcast. - If you want to know, drinking is going to be a-
of quite frequent occurrence on this show. - Yeah. - So get used to it. - Yeah. So that was, I didn't imagine our intro was gonna be that long. In my head I was like- - You didn't even come by bitch.
- Oh, sorry. - Jesus Christ. - Finally. Would you guys all say that Attack on Titan season four is your most anticipated anime season? - Absolutely. - Absolutely. - How do you even match that hype at this point? - Wait, is it next season? - It was meant to be airing this fall, I think. - No, this summer, I believe. - No, it was four. - Really? - Yeah.
- You're wrong, Joey. - I'm sorry, I shouldn't have gone up against the guy who emails studio. - He's got a personal contact that way. - But yeah, I think it's, I'm pretty sure it's airing, it was scheduled to air next fall. - Right.
I've heard from, because I made a video about the first three seasons of Attack on Titan and I've heard from pretty much everyone who's read the manga that season four is going to be the best season. - Oh no, I have also heard that. - I mean, even if it was just mediocre, I feel like we'd still like just think it's amazing. 'Cause like the journey to get there has been so long. And this last part was, oh my God, every episode was a banger. - Oh my God.
so rare that you get to see a series just improve over time every season because I remember when Attack on Titan season one was airing right and I was it was great it was great but I felt like it was very forgettable in the sense of well I remember when season two aired I didn't remember any
about anything that happened in season one. - You know what, I remember specifically in your video of the like seasonal review, you said, "Remember the attack on Titan?" And then you just played cricket noises and moved on. And I remember being like, "What, I'm watching attack on Titan season two, it's good." - No, but like, no, I do agree though, that like season two, 'cause season one, when I watched it, I was like, okay, this is cool. - The hype was insane. - Yeah, and then season two came around and actually dropped it.
- No one cared during season two. - Yeah, because I think what it was was that, because season one was all about like the action and just like building the world. And then season two was a lot of politics and a lot of talking. - Yeah, season two just took the pace 'cause,
- Season one was like a fucking roller coaster. You were going up and down every few episodes. It was like, you didn't know what was gonna happen, but to me it felt a bit empty. And season two felt much slower paced. It was more of like a slow burn when they focused more on the characters.
I actually got really drawn into the world way more into season two, but by the time season two ended, I was like, okay, I'm now way more invested, but nothing really big has happened. - 'Cause it was 12 episodes, right? - Yeah, it was only 12 episodes. - I think everyone was like, what the fuck? We've waited four years or something for 12 episodes? - Well, because they rushed it out. - Yeah, yeah, yeah. - Because of the hype. - They didn't expect it, but I mean, definitely I think
in season three when that scene with Levi came out. As I think when it just exploded. 'Cause everyone saw that GIF on Twitter and was like, I got to fucking catch up. This is insane. Like just thinking about that scene, like gives me goosebumps. It's so good. - It's so good. - 'Cause I remember season three part one, I enjoyed so fucking much. - It was so good. - 'Cause I didn't realize I could care about the politics that much in Attack on Titan. 'Cause I remember by the time season three started, I was enjoying Attack on Titan
for completely different reasons than season one. You know what I mean? I can say the same thing about every season. So I've heard season four is going to be completely different, completely different to what's previously been. - Because I mean like, I don't remember when it was, but me and Aki went to the attack on Titan exhibit that they did in Roppongi.
basically it was really tough because what they did was essentially, they really catered to the manga readers, unfortunately. And I am not the manga reader. So in like the later rooms of the exhibit, they basically like on all the walls, they would have like the original Genga of the manga in these frames, which is fucking cool. But then as you got further down the exhibit, they would start showing stuff that hadn't been adapted yet. So I was like, all right, let's just cover my eyes.
But obviously there was just some stuff that I couldn't really avoid seeing. And the tiny little bits that I did see out of context, I was like- - What the fuck?
There is no fucking way that's happening. And then to top it off, there was this room. This was like a really experimental move on their part, but there was this room that you had to go into and it was completely pitch black room. And there's just audio playing on the speakers in this pitch black room. And what that audio is, is it's audio of what Isayama envisions the final chapter of Attack on Titan to be.
- So he just handed him the spoiler card. - So there's no visuals. There's no visuals, it's just audio and it's what he envisions it will sound like when adapted into an anime. - So you heard all of it? - The only thing we heard was a lot of like background noises and like ambient noises and Mikasa yelling Aaron from a long way away. - Okay, that could mean anything. - Which could mean anything.
- I mean, like I'm obviously not doing the audio justice, but it sounded epic. - Can we get a one-to-one reenactment right now? - It was just like. That's all it was. - Just a Wilhelm scream in there as well.
- Yeah, but I mean, I'm obviously not doing the audio justice, but it sounded like, when I just like closed my eyes and heard that, I was like, wow, I've never been more excited for an anime in my life. - It's good to know that the anime and the manga will end with Mikasa screaming Eren as she has done. - Technically a spoiler. - As she has done for the entire fucking series. - I mean, is there, I mean, with the track record that Attack on Titan has right now, I mean, it's, I mean,
every episode you could argue has been really good, right? I mean, the story's just been, there's no like faults in the story so far, right? It's holding up pretty well. - Yeah, yeah. I'd say it's been building on its story. - Right, really well. - Really, really well. - Like what, if they nailed this ending, what like category is this in of like? - Masterpiece. - Masterpiece. - What would you put it as like anime in the same category then if it killed this last season? - My fucking God. - Like, could it even be in its own thing where like no anime is like as good?
- I would say- - That's hard. - That's hard to say. - That's a big statement right there. - Yeah. - But I mean, I'm just trying to think how many anime series have there been where it's stretched out for, I mean- - Over 50 episodes and killed it. - Over 50 episodes, like let's say four or five seasons and has like killed it this hard. - Yeah, I would say it'd be similar to something like "Fullmetal Alchemist", "Hunter Hunter". Although I'd say it's, I haven't seen "Fullmetal Alchemist". I get that's-
My fan base knows this. It's a big fucking meme, but Full Metal Alchemist is that one anime that I haven't seen. - We all have that one anime that we haven't seen. - I guess when I think about it, you know, Hunter x Hunter, I mean, it hasn't ended though, which is probably the problem where you couldn't argue it's in the same class, but I guess Full Metal Alchemist Brotherhood, maybe you could.
- Yeah, because you never know like "Hunter x Hunter" might, I'm hoping not, but you never know, but "Hunter x Hunter" might end up like a Yu Yu Hakusho. - I think that's the problem is that I think everyone's kind of beginning to accept that slowly. - I think so, yeah. - Because the world is just, especially now with the "Dark Continent" stuff, which it's a lot of stuff with "Hunter x Hunter", but it's looking like it's even more ambitious than before and he's not releasing chapters.
- No. - Well, he is in a very slow way. - It's gonna take a whole lifetime to catch up, but going back to "Attack on Titan," I think I called it like,
- Even if it was of the quality of season three part two, ended in that quality, it would be a modern classic. - Oh, for sure. - If it's even better than that, I have no fucking clue. But that makes me so excited. - Yeah, the fact that we might be getting that in our generation. - The fact that there's a possibility of that is just nuts. - I think the last time I was possibly that excited for like a followup was "One Punch Man" season two.
- We all know how that happened. - I'm like, it wasn't, okay. I rewatched a few clips recently of One Punch Man season two and it like, wasn't that bad. I think it's just, we set our expectations disgustingly high. - It wasn't bad. It was painfully mediocre. - It was like Seven Deadly Sins season one. And then it like,
So what I'm hoping is that the next season, assuming we get another one of One Punch Man, is that it doesn't go to Seven Deadly Sins season three. - Oh my God, that shit is still, like I haven't seen any of Seven Deadly Sins. I don't know anything about it. Never read the manga, never watched the anime, but not gonna lie, there's a part of me when I saw footage of season three, I was like, I kind of want to watch this now just to see it devolve into this current state.
- I remember because the fight that they fucked up was one of the most hyped fights. - Yeah, in the manga, right? That's what I heard. - Yeah, it was one of the most hyped fights. And then they fucked it up so much that fan animation of that fight that was released before looked better than the official fight.
- When I found out about that scene, someone put it up on Twitter and had to preface it by saying, no, this is not a fan animation. This is the official episode because everybody in that tweet was like, is this fan made? - This has to be fan made. - This is like some guy who like just learned how to use flash like a week ago. - Just you know what sticks out in my mind, that kick.
- The kick, when that gif first came out and I saw the kick, which you're probably seeing on screen right now, I fucking lost it, man. - Oh my God, I laughed so hard. - I don't think I'd ever, like I've watched all of "Seven Deadly Sins" up until that point. And like, I wasn't like a huge fan boy, but every time a new season was announced for the OVAs, I'd watch them. I'd never so quickly lost interest in a series
just from seeing that one screenshot of Meliodas like getting up from the bed. I was like, what did they do to him? What did they do to him?
- We've never seen anything like, has that happened in anime before? Like where a season has like so drastically like changed studios and lost animation. - I'm sure like if you dig through like- - I know there have been and I know I'm going to kill myself for not remembering like what this is, but there's been so many times that's- - That drastic though?
- Yeah. - There's been a few examples. - Maybe because the difference was is when it happened back then is that there wasn't Twitter and when it happens now, oh, you know when it happens now. - Yeah, exactly. There was just like a bunch of like otaku gathering being like season and shit. - Like the only thing I can think of right now is like off the top of my head is Berserk. - Oh God. - Which I mean it's changed studio but it was technically a continuation. - Okay, what's worse than Berserk?
- The second adaptation of "Berserk" or the "Seven Deadly Sins" the new season? - "Berserk." - Really? - I'd say "Berserk," yeah. - That okay, all right. - Because I mean like, you know, I'm saying that from like a hardcore "Berserk" fan. - I haven't read the manga so I don't- - Yeah, because if you've read the manga and I'm sure everybody who's read the manga can agree with this, but like, I have never wanted to like cry from sadness watching an anime. I'm like, how could they do my boy guts like that? And I'm like,
- Because the Berserk adaptation was just a failure on pretty much every level from like the animation, which everyone likes to point out, but like the composition, the sound design. I mean, if you've heard that like
- Like sound that bad. It's just, how did you get this? Who did you hire to do the sound design? - What foley artist fucking came up with that sound? Like, how did you see this big fucking iron sword and just like, let's pull out a cowbell. - Just do a JoJo, make everything a gunshot. - Yeah, exactly. - Every punch kick. - I mean, that would have been even better.
- Can I talk about JoJo sound design? I love JoJo sound design so much. 'Cause sound design is something that people don't normally talk about.
- No, no. - And you don't really hear people. - It's like voice acting, right? When it's done well, you don't notice. - Yeah. So with JoJo Sound Design, it's one of the few shows where if you hear like a sound. - You know it's from JoJo. - You know the exact stand and you know the like, sometimes it's the exact episode and the exact fight because they're that recognizable and they're like not generic at all.
- I fucking love JoJo sound design. 'Cause the reason why I think the anime is as good as it is, one of the reasons is that the sound design is so fucking good. Like have you guys seen the, I assume you guys have seen the JoJo OPs where they add the sound effects. - Of course, yeah. - And it's so much better, isn't it? - So cool. - I don't know why they don't do that for the airing versions.
- I mean, it's not really what you see in an OP, right? - Right, yeah, I guess. - It is pretty unconventional. - But I mean, there's so many sounds that you could say are iconic. Like when you hear that gunshot for the punch, you know it's a JoJo punch. - Oh, yeah, exactly. - And it makes it sound so meaty. It's great. - Oh, I love that. - Just the punching sounds. Like every time there's like a muda or like a- - Oh, yeah, yeah. - Or an aura, like,
It is almost like gun-like, isn't it? - Yeah, I'm pretty sure it's like gunshot. It's a gunshot. And then obviously the Zawardo time stop, which I feel like has almost become the universal sound of stopping time. - Yeah, exactly. - And then there's also, you know, I mean, if you talk about music alone, my God, the new season absolutely killed it.
- Oh my God, yeah. - It's like, I think Super iPod 12 John said this in his review of Golden Wind and I feel the same way. Like this is, Golden Wind was the first adaptation of a JoJo where I think the anime is better because you lose so much when you take away that sound and especially the music. When you hear that Johnno's theme, come on, oh. - Johnno's theme is one of the few tracks in anime that has been memed to death. - Yeah, it is our megalovania.
- And I have not gotten bored of it at all. - Every version I've heard of "Drawner's Theme" I've equally just been like, "Yes!" It's so like a piano version, metal version, I don't care. It's always been so good. - Yeah, go on, sorry. - When we can go back to the gym, some of the best music to put when you're working out is JoJo's. It works so well and I know it should work well, but man, when that piano hits,
- You're doing an extra rep, no matter how tired you are. You're doing that extra rep. - Oh, it's so good. - It's almost too hype sometimes though. You're like, oh shit, I gotta keep doing this rapper. I'm dying right now. Don't let my boy Jojo down. - Speaking of anime adaptations though, there is one topic I would like to cover because it is quite timely. But just yesterday actually, as of us recording this episode,
I found, or I guess Aki found that somebody is adapting "Killing Stalking." - You mean it's not an official? - This needs the biggest quote marks ever, adapting. - Adapting "Killing Stalking" into an anime.
- Anime. - You mean it's not an official anime adaptation like everyone on Twitter thinks it is? - Oh, okay. - It was like, the problem was the original Twitter post that blew this up said an official adaptation and then in the replies to that tweet, they doubled down saying it, yeah, it was all official. But the thing that caught my eye is the picture that everyone was retweeting. - Right. - Three pictures of this tweet. One of them was like chaos up, I'm like, what the fuck is a chaos up? - Yeah, yeah.
- So like, cause Aki found that on a timeline and was like, holy shit, they're making a Killing Stalking anime adaptation. I'm like, really? Let me see. And I saw the pictures. I'm like the first two. - They look legit. - And it was like coming soon, 2020. I was like, oh shit. Okay. And then I looked at the last one and it was like K-ops up studio. I'm like. - Yeah, right. - Who?
- What is the studio? I legitimately had to look it up on Wikipedia being like, maybe it's just one of 'cause you know, recently there've been so many fucking Japanese anime studios that have just come out with like ridiculous names. So I'm like, oh, it's probably just one of those. - Exactly. - I looked it up and I'm like, nope, it's literally just one dude.
- It's one dude. - But I feel bad for whoever's making this 'cause like, my God, the amount of hype they just got thrusted on them and everyone's assuming this is like legit. - Yeah. - I mean, how did the hype just happen? Did they just- - It's literally just the tweet. - Just the tweet. - Yeah. The original tweet, I think as of us recording, I think it has like 40,000 likes and like 20,000 retweets or something. - Wow. - Because Killing Stalking fans are,
- They are ruthlessly dedicated. - And also the thing was I saw in the logger and the replies is that people weren't questioning whether like it was legit. People were just questioning, should it get an adaptation? And that was the main argument. I think that's why it was getting so many retweets. - Do you guys think it should get an adaptation?
- I mean, let me change the question. Have you guys read it? - I've read the first like story. What is it? Like, cause it came out in like stories, right? - It's like seasons. - Yeah, I watched, I read the first season and I quite liked it and you know, it's a lot, but I feel like from what I've heard as well, it handles it quite well towards the end. - Yeah, I did a video on it. I actually looked back on,
on when I did my video of it, it was four years ago. - Holy shit. Was it that long ago? I remember you releasing that like yesterday. - Yeah, I know, right? - It does seem like yesterday. - Yeah, I thought it was only like maybe like a year or two ago. It was four years ago. And that's because I only reviewed the first season because I think the series ended like, I think it was like last year, maybe? Like over a year ago, but there was like a huge gap, right? So I've only really seen or read like the first half of it.
It was marketed as like, oh, it's a really hardcore, gruesome yaoi. So all these fangirls getting on it. And I was like, okay. I mean, I don't know if I'm gonna enjoy it as much because I'm not exactly the target demographic, but I'll give it a go. And it was like a genuinely good story. Like, yeah, it had yaoi elements in it, but I'm an adult, I can handle that.
- Yeah, exactly. - So other than that, if you take away the elements, it's just a really, really good horror mystery. But when I saw that they were gonna make a quote unquote anime adaptation for it, I was like,
- I don't, 'cause immediately what I thought of is all of these other like over-sexualized series getting anime adaptations recently. - 'Cause as someone who hasn't read it, it seems like it's a very sexual story that would have to be heavily censored. - It is hardcore. - It's like, as well, I think it also has such like, it's divided a lot of the community 'cause I think a lot of people really sexualize it when it's just a really fucked up dynamic. And a lot of, I mean, a lot of,
a really deep shit of like possessiveness and all that. But if you're thinking about reading it, it's a lot like it is hard. - Yeah, go into it with caution, definitely. - Definitely be over the age of 18.
- We have to legally say that. - I mean, I think you should read it, but then also like, I can totally recommend you not to read it. Like it's your life would be totally fine if you don't read it. - Maybe I'll watch the anime instead and get my opinion there. - Talking about the anime, like I said, I feel bad for this person 'cause a lot of people are putting a lot of hype on it. But also what I saw, it's a one man job. Like this guy's doing everything and I don't know if it's a guy or a girl,
but they seem to be in charge of, they seem to be 3D modelers, I think. That's what their trade is. - Yeah, yeah, yeah. - And I saw the voice acting casting call and as someone who's done a lot of voice acting casting calls, I've made my own, I've worked with a lot of professional ones, like it is not normal, I'd say. I don't wanna be mean to them. - What do you mean not normal? - I don't wanna be mean 'cause I don't think they're that experienced and I think other voice actors are helping them with it.
First of all, normally you don't name who's gotten what role publicly. Right. So on the casting call document, which I think we can maybe show on screen for a second, it says like one person who has the role and it's showing publicly. That's not normally the case. Normally it's just here with the lines audition for it and whatnot. And,
And the way it's laid out is really odd. And it's just over... I mean, over Twitter isn't that weird, but there's no mention of pay or anything. Like, I guess... I mean, it is a fan-made project, but normally still you say if it's paid or not. You normally say how many lines they're going to be. It just...
I don't know, it looks like it belongs on like Casting Call Club, which is an amateur voice acting website. - Yeah. - Which makes me uneasy, 'cause if it is gonna be a USB microphone kind of deal, it's not gonna sound good, 'cause there was no, "Hey, here's the minimum requirements. "You need a sound treated room." There was nothing. It was just, "If you wanna audition." And I saw the replies to this thread, and it was like all 13 year old sounding girls auditioning. - Yeah, but that's because the main fucking readership
of stalking are 13 year old girls. Even though it shouldn't be. From purely based on context, it should not be. - It's just worrying with these kinds of things as well. 'Cause normally, like when I've done plus 18 projects, I normally ask for proof of ID. When if I cast someone, like they need to show me their ID and this should definitely be one of the situations where like those precautions should be taken. Even if it's fan made, right?
- It's not a good look for you if you're getting 13 year old girls to voice in your thing about like, you know, it's some pretty fucked up shit. - I mean, it's still very early days. I mean, from what it sounds like,
it sounds like a situation where someone just- - Way too much press. - Got way too much press way too quickly because I have no doubt that they probably have no fucking experience. - Because I saw on their Twitter actually just this morning that they tweeted out being like, "Oh my God, after someone retweeted my thing, I've gained like 10,000 Twitter followers overnight." And this person obviously came from
pretty much close to zero followers. So for them, that's a lot. That's a lot of like pressure just immediately built up on them because you're going off to such like, I don't wanna say iconic, but like a very, very, very dedicated series. - I think it's not just that as well. 'Cause I think what really built up the hype as well is we're in like this environment now where Webtoons anime are being made. So it wouldn't be,
it wouldn't have been so surprising to say Killing Stalking is getting an anime as opposed to like last year or even two years ago where, you know, we didn't have any precedence for that. But now with Tower of God airing and God of High School and Noblesse all getting animes, it's like maybe we're in a new era where
people are expecting that their favorite webtoons or their favorite web comics from whatever countries could get anime adaptations. - Yeah, true, true. - I mean, to be fair, I wouldn't be against the idea of it actually getting an official adaptation. - Like killing Stogie? - Yeah, I think it could be, definitely make waves. - I mean, it would make sense considering that recently there's been like a big trend of like, as I said earlier,
over sexualized series. Like we've got a "Shumatsu no Harum" getting- - Yeah, my fucking God. How are they gonna handle that? - How are they gonna handle that? Because there is legitimately a sex scene every three pages. Like I'm not even kidding. - So I don't know anything about this manga. So wait, what is it called then? - Okay, it's called "Shumatsu no Harum". - Or "World's End Harum". - "World's End Harum". And basically the overall plot, I'm oversimplifying this, but basically- - It's a hentai plot.
- Humanity has gone to shit where there is a disease that is killing all males. It's only affecting males. So basically now- - You can tell where this is going. - I already know where this is going. - It's a hentai plot, it's a hentai plot. So basically males now are becoming like a commodity. They're basically being treated like, males that have like survived this disease are basically like treated as like national treasures. - Let me guess, right? First of all, the difference between this and hentai, right? Is that if it was a hentai, it'd be an ugly bastard.
- It's like a handsome young guy. - It's like several handsome young guys. - Okay, well that's how it happens. If it's an ugly bastard, it's a hentai.
- Pretty much. But like the dynamic, see this is where a difference from a hentai though, is that our main character has like this girl that he's been thinking about his whole life. And basically like doesn't wanna just go around and like- - Sex anyone. - Yeah, sex everyone in order to save humanity. He'd rather keep his like purity for the girl that he's been thinking of. - So it's a Christian. - Before saving humanity. - So it's about waiting for the right person. - It's basically "Blue Bull", the manga.
because everyone else, all five other guys having a fucking great time. They're fucking different chicks every fucking day. - Yeah, they're pretty much like what hentai protagonist should be. - I'm not being sold on this, but saying that I wasn't sold on the species reviewers until I watched it. And I thought this is pretty funny. - It's not gonna be as good as in species. - Oh no, it won't be. - In the species reviewers is like a really weird case because it was something that was definitely, definitely edgy.
In the manga, in the manga, in the anime, they just made it porn. But I still like, I still, I don't know, interspecies reviewers to me is that line between hentai and ecchi because-
you don't watch interspecies reviewers to jack off, right? But it's undeniable that there is just a straight up sex scene in it. Which is really interesting though, because the one sex scene that everyone was raving on about in the anime, I think it was episode four, I believe? Episode three was never...
- No, it wasn't. - It was implied. All sex scenes of that series is implied in the manga. But in the anime they were just like, "Eh, fuck it, let's just show it." - Yeah, like put things in perspective. You didn't even see nipple in the manga. - No. - Oh wow. - That was like how- - Actually no, that's a lie. - Really? - Yeah, you did see nipple. - Oh, okay. - Joey knows. - I own all the volumes.
- Have you seen this man's Twitter? He knows a nipple when he sees one. - I own all the volumes and I've enjoyed every single one. - Can we talk about your Twitter in a bit? Can we please talk about your Twitter? - Why do we wanna talk about my Twitter? By the way, follow me on Twitter guys, @theanimeman with a one. - It would make a great clip is what I mean. Can you please explain your Twitter? - What do you mean explain my Twitter? - Whenever I go on Twitter, right? I don't follow hentai artists on Twitter because I don't need to.
'Cause this man's got me covered. 'Cause as you know, on Twitter, when you like a picture, there's a good chance for some reason, especially Joey's specifically, it comes on my Twitter. And I must get at least every time I open Twitter, six or seven either full on sex things or very, very lewd. It's always Joey. It's like,
I'm like, I don't follow porn. Oh, it's like by Joey Bissinger. And it's like, how did you get to this point? - Okay, here's what I don't understand, right? Like how many people do you follow on Twitter? Like on average? - I think I have 600 something. - Okay, 600. - About that many. - Okay, right? You both follow about over 500 people. - Yeah. - And like, this isn't just YouTube. Like I've had this from like mutual friends of mine. - Everyone says it's you. - How is it that my likes end up on everybody's timeline?
- Am I on Twitter preferred? - I have no fucking clue, but it is, I would say 70 to 80% of the time I see lewds on my timeline. It is you, it is straight up you. - This motherfucker. - First of all, you're welcome. - Okay, 'cause this didn't used to be the case. And I swear, you're way more timid about it.
- How did, how did that, 'cause I'm scared of doing that. 'Cause I don't know, 'cause I mean, I shouldn't really, 'cause I basically get half naked in some of my videos, but yeah, I don't know. I guess I was just worried about like just having porn on my thing, but now I guess I can get away with it. - Because like- - How did you go from not sharing porn to basically just-
- To being the hentai man. - I've always shared it, that's the thing. - Have you? I swear you didn't. - I mean, maybe not as frequently. - No, no, no. - I swear now you're seeking that. - I think it was just Twitter changing the like button to be basically the retweet button. - Yeah, pretty much. Yeah, that's exactly what it is. Because for the entirety that I've been on Twitter, I've liked hentai. Because I've followed hentai artists I like or hentai artists I've discovered, but I've never,
never retweeted it because of this exact reason. I don't want other people's timelines.
to be filled with hentai. But Twitter was just like, hey, let's just like make the like button like a beta retweet button. - I gotta ask how much of your feed is just hentai? - That's what I asked. I asked to see his phone. - Do you wanna see it now? - It wasn't that bad when I first saw it. - I mean, the thing is I don't follow that many hentai artists. I know that's hard to believe, but I genuinely don't. The thing is I follow hentai artists that love,
retweeting other hentai. - Yeah, yeah, yeah. - And that's where I find all the people. Okay, here. - Scroll through his Twitter. - Why don't you scroll down my Twitter? - Let's see. - Let's see how many come up. - Oh, there we go. - One in three tweets. - Can you also like everyone that appears? - Yeah, can we go to his likes from when this is from? - Oh yeah, yeah, go to my likes, go to my likes. - Oh, there's another one. - There's two in a row. - Oh wait, there's a Jimmy Neutron there. That's not hentai. - Jimmy Neutron, what? Who am I following?
- Okay, while they're looking through the Twitter, let me defend myself real quick, okay? The reason why I like it is because at the end of the day, these are just drawings, right? There's a difference between liking like actual human porn versus just a picture. - This man's about to go the hentai's art route, isn't he? - I am genuinely one of those people who looks at hentai as art. - No, I totally agree with you.
- You sound like such fucking degenerate. - Shut the fuck up, guys. - No, it's off. - Shut the fuck up. - I assure you. - Listen, I'm talking on behalf of every hentai lover watching this episode, including you.
- I like hentai, I just, I don't know if I look at it and like just crack open a beer and just enjoy. - No, no, I've gone to that point, right? I've gone to the point. You've seen my fucking room, you've seen my fucking office, which is just like full of like anime thighs and stuff like that. Because it's gotten to the point where sometimes you just see this like drawing of a girl or a thigh
or something and I just don't even get horny anymore. I'm just like, I'm just fucking impressed at how good they make it look. - Yeah, that was me when I saw the Meliodas in "Seven Deadly Sins" season three. - Because they're genuinely like some hentai artists that I've seen and I know of where I'm just like,
if you made an all ages manga, you would sell like crazy. - Oh no, people have. - And people have, like look at like Nanashi who made fucking "Ijirane de Nagatoro-san." - Yeah, I love that. - I know, I know. Put up a picture of it, okay? Everyone has seen this chick before, all right? - Okay, okay. - Nanashi was originally like a hardcore loli hentai artist. - Oh wow.
and he made a really fucking successful all ages comedy manga, which is hilarious. And even if they don't make all ages stuff, look at artists like Napata, who was like genuinely an amazing artist. And that's what I will like, because we've gotten to this point where hentai has just become like,
ha ha, anime boobs, hilarious and horny on me. Like it's all just become like a joke thing. I don't want that anymore. - I don't want that. - I'm sick of those jokes. - I'm like, I wanna save this topic 'cause I want this- - Stop laughing. - I want this to be a whole episode.
- I wanna dedicate a whole episode. - I am ready. I have too many things to say about hentai and hentai artists that I can't fit it all in like five minutes. - Smash like on this episode if you want a hentai episode, 'cause we're gonna do it either way. - We're gonna do it anyway. - Give these guys like three sips of beer and they just start talking about hentai. - I shouldn't have had a strong zip to be fair. This shit's strong.
- I just, I don't know. Like when I watch hentai, it's like, it's for a service, you know? I guess I do it to do, I do the deed, right? Like I don't sit there and like swirl my wine glass and think like- - Am I weird? Am I, okay, I wanna know. - Yes, is probably the answer to this question. - No, no, hold on, shut up. Am I weird to be like, sometimes I kinda just wanna watch hentai just to enjoy it? - Yes, that's totally, yeah. - That's fucking-
- He's probably going through that phase right now. That's why he's unsure. - No, no, no, no, no, no. I don't, hentai to me hasn't got to that point. - Right. - Dojinshi and manga has definitely gone to that point. - See, this is why I love it. - There is no part of me in a porn where like I watch a porn and I don't immediately skip to two minutes in. - You are the degenerate here, motherfucker. - There isn't.
- I've bought a lot of doujinshi from artists I like. I don't think I've actually read physical copies of doujinshi and jacked off to it. I know that's TMI, I'm sorry.
- I will recommend you some shit. - Okay, wow. - I'll come on and- - Have you seen my Twitter likes? - In like four episodes, I'll come back on and I'll be like, "Totally agree with everything these guys say." I don't know, I just- - I'm looking forward to your progression from like, "Oh, what the fuck?" To like, "You know what? I love this artist." - Yeah, because if you've read enough Da Jinchi and if you've read enough H manga, there are so many Da Jinchis that just have really, really good plots. - Yeah. - And it's- - I agree.
- Sips beer, I do agree, I must say. - It's gotten to this point where sometimes you just want the series to be adapted into a hentai just so you can see it animated. And sometimes you read these series that just do something new with porn or hentai that you just have never seen before. And you're like, wow, this is like awakening something in me right now. This is amazing.
- I'm serious. - Okay, no, I've never heard someone describe, I've watched "Hentai" and it awakened something in me. - How have you not? - There are some doujinshis that I've read where like at first I was like, okay, I dig this art.
and then I see like the edgy scenes and I'm like, okay, I'm digging this. Like, you know, I have like a quarter child maybe. But then as the story continues, I'm like, you know what? Fuck the edgy scenes. - I think I started the podcast with the wrong boys here. - Question to you, a question to all of you watching, why do you think thigh highs are sexy?
And if the answer isn't anime and anime awakened your love for thigh highs, you're fucking lying. - No, it did, it did. - Because let's be real, Japanese girls don't have thighs. - No, that's true. - So like, if you just think, thigh highs is like entry level, right? In the world of the Jinchis and H-Manga, that's like some normie shit, man.
We've gotten to that point where thigh highs are normie as fuck. - Maybe in future we can return to this topic when I've done my research. - We'll come back to this. - We're gonna come back to this. - Don't worry, don't worry. - So we're getting ahead of ourselves right now. - That's an understatement. - This was meant to be an introductory episode when we introduced what we're gonna be doing
- If you don't like these topics, I'm sorry. - It won't always be hentai by the way, I can just preface that. But I think, I mean, the main reason we started this as well is 'cause we always hang out together. Like it's not one of those things, like some YouTubers hang out, they make videos. It seems like their friendship's great. We all actually hang out together all the fucking time.
And we always talk for like two hours straight about fucking anime. - Yeah, what you're looking at is essentially what we do on a daily. - Yeah, like we easily have conversations where we just talk for like three hours about manga and anime. And we're like, why don't we just fucking- - Not even about manga and anime. - Anything, anything. - I remember the last time we were at your house and we talked about like, what was the best burger joint? Do you remember that? We like legitimately like hardcore argue about like, is In-N-Out overrated or not for like 40 minutes. - It's not, it's not by the way.
away. It is. Okay. We're not going to get into that, but I suppose, uh, I guess that's, we're going to be talking about like anything and it's going to evolve over the time. Yeah. I mean, the core of his anime and manga. I want, I mean, I have a lot of things about anime and manga that I want to talk about, but I also want to talk about the culture, the community, hentai, um,
- More hentai, I guess. - Yeah, and I mean, I'm also like just general, 'cause we're all YouTubers, we wanna talk about sometimes if there's YouTube drama that we feel like we can probably add something to, of course. - Well, you know, sometimes if there's just like standard banter of just like whatever the fuck, then yeah, we'll talk about it. - And if any of our mutuals are ever in Japan,
If you wanna talk anime and manga with us, hit us up. - Yeah, absolutely. And not even just our mutuals. Like if you wanna like come onto the show and like talk, first of all, you gotta come onto the show physically. Sit right here next to me and talk about it. - 'Cause we wanna, ideally this will be a four person podcast and hopefully, I mean, I'd be really interested in to bring YouTubers on who don't really get to talk about
about anime and just hear their side. - I guess, yeah. I mean, if there are any YouTubers watching this video or the tweet or whatever, then I guess let us know if you'd like to come onto the podcast 'cause we will happily welcome whoever wants to come on. - It's surprising. I've met so many YouTubers who have nothing to do with anime or anything. - Who watch anime. - Who watch anime and just really wanna talk about anime to someone.
- I think it's pretty awesome because I remember anime was nowhere near this popular before. And I remember the feeling of being the only anime fan and having nothing, no one to talk about. - I mean, I think that's why I started my YouTube channel. Like that was like my reasoning is that I had no one to talk to this about. - Let's just say like kids today have it fucking easy.
If you're an anime fan like today in high school, you have it so much easier than any of us did. - My God. I'm so jealous because I wish I could have just talked to my fucking friends about Naruto or Bleach or One Piece or something. - I had to convince my friends to get into anime in order to find someone to talk about anime. - See, this is like another thing that when I talk to Americans, they don't have this problem. At least in my age group, I imagine yours as well, right?
it's like weird, Americans had it good, but British people and I think probably Australian people are more closer to British like, people fucking ruthless at school. - Oh yeah. - Like, and I remember I got shit for gaming too much in school. So how the fuck am I gonna sit there? - Like I never had that. - I got shit for gaming too much in school. So how am I gonna sit there and be like, all right, so Call of Duty, that thing that you play, but give me shit for, how about you check out these anime titties, right?
- I built up years getting to like a medium level of like in between a level of popularity. I was never popular, but I got out of the bullying zone, if you will. Didn't want to go back in there. - It's really crazy just how like, I don't want to say mainstream anime is called. - It's not mainstream yet. - It's not mainstream at all, but like, I guess just,
how much more accepted it's become as a subculture. - It's getting there, it's getting there. - Yeah, it definitely is because I feel like anime works so well with meme culture. - Oh my God. - You know what I mean? Anime in a sense is meme culture in a lot of ways. - Big fly in a room when you mentioned meme culture in anime. You all know what we're talking about.
But I feel like because of that, it's a lot more people will know what anime is or at least have seen a meme or a screenshot or a gif of probably Jojo. - It's usually where they start. - That's usually what happens. - And as it should be. - It's the only anime that matters.
And then people would just recognize it a lot more. 'Cause I remember when I was growing up, people didn't even know what anime was. The words anime, they're like, "What the fuck is this shit?" That's some cartoon porn shit, you know what I mean? - Yeah, yeah, absolutely. - It's weird 'cause I think one of the biggest double-edged swords to anime has been Netflix.
in the sense that like it's got a lot of people into anime. But then when you get really into anime, it becomes like the fucking worst place to get. - Oh yeah. - And we're definitely gonna talk about like Netflix. - We'll talk about that more in future, but I think Netflix has also helped a lot. 'Cause I mean, they've been pushing like, I remember like when they started getting anime, like Death Note would not get off my fucking recommended on Netflix. - Really? - Yeah, yeah. And like Full Metal Alchemist Brotherhood, I think they have that. I think they have like all the classics, which is pretty impressive. - Yeah, yeah.
I mean, they have all the entry level shows. - Right, the stuff that you need to watch. And now they have Evangelion as well. - Yeah, yeah, exactly. - Which is crazy that they got that. - Huge achievement. I can't imagine how much money Netflix threw at Arno to be like, "Hey, can we grab your series that has been pretty much out of print for like 20 plus years?" - Yeah, I wanna hear the story about how they got that because-
people have tried for decades, literal decades to get the, after ADV died, to get the licensing over to the West. So that must be a- - I remember when I heard the news of that. - Lots and lots of money. - I remember when I heard the news of that, like I actually couldn't believe it. I was like, this is like one of the biggest achievements because it is like,
- Without wrapping it up in a package nicely, Evangelion is one of the biggest anime ever made. And we all know Arno is like hardcore when it comes to protecting his IP. - Oh my God. - 'Cause remember for the longest time, Hollywood wanted to make that Ava adaptation and Arno was just like, "Fuck off, man." - He did us a solid. - Yeah, he really saved our ass from that. - There are so many fucking live action adaptations being made right now. I can't even keep track of them all.
- Remember when there was just one and everyone would just wait to shit on that one. I think there's like over 10 adaptations being made right now. - We need to do an episode where we do like a tier list of the worst Netflix adaptations. - We need to do a tier list of the worst Netflix live action. - Oh God, yeah. - So anyways guys, like look forward to all of that stuff. - Yeah, this was just a taster. We didn't really plan much of what we were gonna say here. - As you can see, we're just talking out of our eyes.
- We were just talking about, there wasn't a topic planned and we just kind of evolved. The only topic we talked about was killing stalking, which lasted five minutes. - There'll be a lot more structure in future when we get a bit more used to it as well. When we have more topics to talk about. 'Cause right now we do wanna cover, I think it would make it really interesting for you, the audience, when you hear our opinions pretty early on about things that are like evolving situations.
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And we appreciate you guys for sticking around this first episode and we hope to see you guys in the next one. - All right, nice. Bye bye. - Bye. - Bye.