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- Hello and welcome to another episode of Trash Taste. I'm your host for today, Garnt. Joining me once again are the boys. - What's up, dude? - How are you guys doing today? - Yeah, doing all right. - You guys have had a busy, like, I guess we've all had like a busy week, right? - I was about to say, like, you really started off with like the deepest sighs, like, "How's it going, Garnt?"

- Yeah. - You didn't want to be here. - Honestly, yeah. I think it's been a pretty busy week for all of us either traveling or doing stuff. Joey, you went to Korea for the first time, didn't you? - Finally. - I wanted to ask you about that. - Finally went to Korea. - Yeah. - Just for like three days for Aki's birthday. - Right. - Yeah, it was freaking awesome. Yeah. - Yeah. - I mean,

- Big surprise, Korea is kind of cool. - Yeah, it is, it is. - Wow. - Big surprise. - The food there was freaking amazing. Wow, no one knew that before. - Yeah. - But yeah, I don't know, we were just,

like just being tourists for three days, just 'cause I like, I've never been there, Aki's never been there and it's so close to Japan. - Yeah, we're like two hour flight. - Yeah, it's like, it takes longer to get to Okinawa than it does to Korea. - Exactly. - And I've been to Okinawa like five times. So it's like, okay, I have no excuse, I gotta go. - Whereabouts did you stay? - Mostly just in Seoul. I think 'cause we only had three days. So I figured like, yeah, I was like, should we take a day to like, you know, go to like, you know, Busan or like Gangnam or like other places like that. But I'm just like, eh, I just kind of wanted to,

explore actual soul. 'Cause it's a lot bigger than I thought it was going to be. - Yeah, it's fucking massive. - Yeah. 'Cause like you see it on the map, right? And it's just like, oh, it's like not that much different to like Tokyo, for example. It's so much bigger than that.

'Cause like, even if it just seems down the road, it's like, oh, it's 20 minutes by train. And I'm like, how does that work? But yeah, so, 'cause we have like a couple of friends who like used to live in Korea quite a long time. So we were just like, just give us recommendations for like the most touristy shit we can do. - Yeah, yeah. - So we went to like, you know, the food markets there and like, you know, I guess the equivalent of Tokyo Tower in Seoul, which is called Namsan Tower, I think it's called.

Yeah, it was really cool. Just super chill. One thing that I was pleasantly surprised about

is that damn, everyone can speak English there. - Yep. - And it's awesome. - Really? - Yeah. Like even if like you walk into a store, right? And immediately, you know, they greet you in Korean, but then the moment you start speaking English, they just switch to full on fluent English and they're just like, "Oh, okay, yeah, sure." - Yeah, I was surprised by that when I went to Korea as well. 'Cause there were times, there was like a few times where I was just,

we were like staring at like the train map, trying to figure out how to get to the place we want to go. And every time we stood there for like more than a minute, someone came over and was like, "Oh, do you need help?" In like perfect English. I would explain how to get there in perfect English. And I'm just like, "Yeah, I'm going to see League of Legends. Do you know which stadium that is?" - I'm trying to watch Imagine Dragons actually. - Yeah.

- Yeah, but it was so surprising that like, I think just not only the fact that English is such a prevalent language that's spoken there, but also just like one massive difference I saw, especially compared to Japan was not only that, but also just how much people are okay with being on camera because Aki and I were both vlogging our entire trip.

when you go to like the food markets, for example, and you'd point the camera at like the food and stuff like that. And I think my like Japanese brain kicks in. I'm just like, I'm gonna try and avoid getting random people into my videos 'cause they might not like it. No, there was so many instances where I would point the camera towards like a food store or something. And the man or the woman behind it would just be like,

- Like there was so chill and okay with being on camera. And when we were at this random food store, there was this Korean couple that just started talking to us again in perfect English and was just like, oh, I wouldn't recommend that if you don't like spicy food. And I thought like, oh, have you lived outside of Korea before? And they're like, never left the city. They're like, then why is your English so good? And it's just, I got a glimpse of,

what Japan might be if English was as commonly used as it was in Korea. - Right. - Because immediately as a tourist, I felt so much more comfortable, like just kind of talking to people and like, I wasn't as, I mean, obviously I was trying to also practice my horrible Korean as well. - Yeah.

At the same time, if it failed, then there was always that fail safe of, oh, they can speak moderately decent. - You have a safety net. - Yeah, they have a safety net, which I feel a lot of people who come to Japan as a tourist, unfortunately don't really get. - Yeah.

purely because English is just not as commonly spoken and you get that like, nonny, like face, right? Every time you go. - I mean, I think we are very, very lucky to know English because it's such an OP language if you're traveling about. And you forget sometimes that, you know, you forget sometimes when you travel, there are some places that just don't know much English

at all and Japan is like one of those countries in comparison to some other major cities and then a lot of like other, like let's say culturally famous places, Japan doesn't really speak that much English. China's a big one as well. It's like if you go to like any major Chinese city, a lot of people there do not speak English and you forget, okay, English is only popular in certain places in the world. And there are some places and you've gotten used to being able to just like kind of like

with really slow English in some places, but in Japan it's a lot harder than other places. - That's why everyone should learn charades professionally, just in case they don't speak English. And then at least be like, all right, I know how to symbolize what I'm doing. Like, can I have chicken? Oh, that's not good. Stick on chicken, please. - Stick on chicken. Stick on chicken.

- No, but obviously, you know, the food was freaking amazing there. Like everything I had. - Do you have Korean fried chicken? - Of course. - Of course. - I was gonna ask, how many times though? - I think I would have come back with 15 like points of high cholesterol. I would have hit it every day. - I mean, we only went once, but it's because we tried to have as much variety of Korean food as possible. So we were just like, we're just gonna try everything. And we saved the Korean chicken till last, 'cause it was like,

you know it was gonna slap. It's pretty hard to mess up. And I know like, and also my Korean friend was like, go to this place 'cause this is the best place to go. And we went there, man, I had a food wars moment. I was like three quarters chub at least eating this chicken. And it was-

- That's amazing. - That's fried chicken, man. - The barbecue there, the K barbecue there was also amazing and so cheap too. - Yeah. - It's insane. I thought eating out in Japan was cheap, but then when you go and eat out in Korea, it's like- - It's even cheaper. - It's even cheaper. - Yeah. - It's crazy. 'Cause even the food stalls and stuff like that, I get confused initially because,

compared to the yen, the Korean won is like one extra digit. So 300 yen in Japan, which is about $3 is 3000 Korean won. So when I initially look at the prices, my heart just goes, oh, but then I realized it's like, oh wait, it's like three bucks. So yeah, I got some of the most like amazing like street food there.

everyone was so hospitable and friendly. And they were so eager to be on camera as well. I had this one woman who dragged Aki and I into this seafood place. And she just lured us in. We were like, all right, let's see what happens.

And she like dragged us into her shop and she just started serving us this like fresh crab meat with like, you know, like on a bed of rice with like a little bit of kimchi on top. And it was the most amazing thing ever. And she was, she was, she was,

plating it up like she was fucking serving it to Gordon Ramsay. She was just like, "Okay, okay, I will do the best thing for you. Here you go, camera, camera, look at this." Like she kept pointing to the camera being like, "Focus on this, focus on this right now." I'm like, "What are you, a YouTuber?" It's like a food review channel happening. - Yeah, it super sucks. I guess you're always in Japan. And rightfully so, you should assume that people just don't want to be on there.

- Yeah, of course. - That's the correct way of assuming. But that is, yeah, it's weird to think that they're just like, "I'm the movie star, get me on camera. "How do I look? Angle the camera, flip the camera around. "Let me see it. Oh yeah, okay, good." - No, honestly, a lot of them were like that. And it's more understandable if it's younger people, right? But a lot of these people running these food stores in Seoul are of the older generation, which you would think is not that comfortable with being on camera. But I guess the place we went to,

the famous food markets there, there's been so many like food channels, like doing videos there and TV stations doing videos there. So I guess they're just like used to being on camera now. - But I also think this is total conjecture by the way. I think that when I went to Korea, it felt so eerie, right? 'Cause it was so...

- So like you go to Seoul and you look around and you're like, this feels very much like Tokyo. Like I remember saying to Sydney, if you just dropped me in a random place in Seoul and dropped me in a random place in Tokyo, if I did not recognize Kanji at all or anything like that, I would have trouble distinguishing from like first looks.

which city I'm actually in. They look eerily similar, but then you walk around and Korean people from what I experienced were just a lot less reserved than Japanese people, right? Japanese people are very, very reserved. And I think, I would like to guess that internet culture is just a lot more prevalent in Korean culture, I would think. - Oh, for sure. - I mean, it's literally the country that kind of like birthed e-sports, right? That's where e-sports had its like,

had its major roots put into it. So I would imagine that just the whole culture over there is much more aware of just in the internet age and just the online culture. - Oh yeah. - I believe so, yeah. - It's the only country on earth that is I think faster internet than Japan. - Yeah, I think it has one of the fastest internet connections in the world. - I think it's number one. - Yeah, I think it's number one. - I can't remember if it still is, but a while back.

- I mean, I certainly had no problems connecting to any wifi. That's what's so publicly available. - Yeah, exactly. Did you partake in the drinking culture at all? - Yeah, of course I did.

- They are brutal over there, man. - Holy shit. - I mean, my only saving grace was that Aki is not that much of a drinker. So I kind of had like a scapegoat for that. But my God, man, like I just even going to like the K-BBQ and just looking across the room and just seeing like 20 soju bottles.

for like three people that are just sitting there and they're just laughing and drinking away like it's nothing. I'm like, bro, I feel sorry for the doctors that have to check up on your goddamn liver every year. - Sounds brutal, soju is so tough. - Oh my God, yeah. But I did though, I guess like the one aspect to, I guess the stranger friendliness in Korea that almost backfired in a way was,

I think it was like the second night we're in. So, and we were just kind of walking back from a restaurant, just, you know, chatting away or whatever. And this random dude just came up to me

came up to me, random Korean dude. And I knew something was kind of weird because he kind of flagged me down. And then he was like, "Oh, hey mate, how's it going?" He kind of spoke in like a slight Australian and British-esque accent, but the kind where it's like a bad impression. And at first I thought it was a fan.

- Yeah. - Right? Because he just came up to me not so nonchalantly. - Yeah. - And so I responded like I would if it was a fan. I shook his hand. I was like, "Yeah, man, how's it going? "How's your night been? Blah, blah, blah." And then randomly he just points towards this building in the distance and he goes, "I work there." And I went,

- Cool. Didn't ask, but I'm glad you're happy that you work at that particular establishment that I'm unaware of. And then he just started asking me questions like, "Oh, where are you guys from?" You know, blah, blah, blah. And that's when I realized, oh, he's not a fan.

a random dude who just stopped me and I guess just wanted to start talking to me for some reason. - That happened to me twice when I was in Seoul. I was in Seoul for like three days as well. And people like that just randomly, obviously we looked like tourists. And I think, I don't know if it's normal for locals to do this, but especially I felt like someone just wanted, it felt like someone just wanted to practice their English. They saw a tourist, they were like,

- All right, boys, it's time. And unlike Japanese people where they're like very reserved, they're like, you know, can't talk to random strangers, don't do that. Don't break people's social boundaries. Koreans are just like, you know what? I'm just gonna strike up a conversation and see where it takes me. - Honestly. And I think the only reason why he decided to start talking to me in particular is because I think he heard my accent. And then he mentioned to me that he lived in the UK for a couple of years.

And that's how he learned his English. And I was like, okay, good on you. Like, you know, your English is certainly better than, you know, the average Korean that I've talked to so far on this trip. But also it was at like 11:00 PM on a side street. And my first instinct was this guy's trying to fucking mug me. And I could see Aki's just like shitting herself. Just being like, get me the fuck out of this conversation right now.

And then I found it really weird when after all of that, just kind of chit chat, getting to know, you know, about him and his supposed workplace. He was like, where are you staying? And then that's when the red flag went up and I was like, oh, and I just mentioned some other hotel. I just mentioned some other hotel. I'm like, oh, it's like down there. We got to get the train or whatever. And he's like, okay, do you want me to like take you to that hotel?

And I was like, that's a no from me dog. I know my way. We've been here for a couple of days. It's all good. And so I started to get really, really worried. Luckily he like left me alone after that. He was just like, okay, have a good night, mate.

And I was like, - Too friendly. - Yeah, you didn't happen to me. - I was like, yeah, you too, man. And I just fucking bolted across the road. I'm like, please don't follow us. - But yeah, that was, it was scary, but also, I don't know, it was a little bit endearing, right? - Yeah, yeah. - Because that is a situation that you will almost never encounter in Japan. - Right. - Especially if the Japanese person is

striking up the conversation. - Yeah, that would never happen. - That would never happen. - Absolutely no way. - Especially in Tokyo. So yeah. - It's happened a few times outside of Tokyo, but not in Tokyo. - No, no. It's happened to me in like Osaka and stuff, right? Where the stranger friendliness is a little bit better, but never in Tokyo.

- Yeah, going to Osaka, this is a random question, which I noticed because I also just recently went to on Connor's RV trip, which was major success. Congratulations, bro, congratulations. - Thank you, thank you. - Yeah, why do people on Osaka on the escalator stand on the right-hand side and people in Tokyo stand on the left-hand side? What's up with that? - Oh, so that's a West Japan versus East Japan thing.

That's what they do. And people in Hokkaido stand mostly in the middle.

- What? - Yeah. Did you ever notice that? - Do they really? - Yeah. - I feel like they don't. - That's like a thing that they do. - Who decided this? - I don't think I've been on an escalator in Hokkaido. - That's an achievement. - I actually don't think I have. - Yeah, but for some reason, I don't know who came up with this rule, but for the most part, if you live on East Tokyo, you stand on the left. If you live in West Tokyo, you stand on the right. - I think this is just like a little quirky thing that they wanted to just keep. - I think so. - And they were like, "That's our thing."

- Yeah. - We're different. We are different from Tokyo. They just kept it. Whereas like other places are like, we have, I don't know, we're more alcoholic than you. Whereas in Japan they're like, we stand on the other side of the escalator. And it's like, what?

- Yeah, I don't know. - Yeah, it's just some random piece of thing that I noticed when I went to Osaka. - But that's how you can tell if someone is from outside of the prefecture. - Yeah, yeah, yeah. - Right? - I feel like that's like the silent way to out someone to be like, oh, he doesn't belong here. - You're not from around here. - He's not from around here. - The OP way is to just copy whatever else is doing at all times. - Yeah. - Everywhere. - Pretty much. - And then that way you can't go wrong. And then you go, I don't even know which side is left or right. I still haven't figured that out. - Yeah, you still have to do this thing.

I don't even know what side of the road they drive on here. I just follow the other cars. Like, I don't know.

- Did you notice in Seoul for you when you went out late at night, were there just a lot more drunk people on the streets than you would expect in Tokyo? - Oh yeah. Is that really? - Holy shit. Every corner I walked around, it was like Shibuya meltdown, but like every corner. It shocked me so much. - Not only that, but it was Shibuya meltdown at like 8:00 PM. - Yeah, right? - And it's like, we're walking to the restaurant and I just see a dude asleep in the hedges on the side of the road. I'm like, homeless or?

or just very, very drunk at 8:00 PM on a Friday? - I was gonna say, was it a weekday or just a- - So the first day we got there was a weekday. But even still, it's like, even on a weekend, I'm like, damn, these boys going hard. Like it's not even that late and you're already,

- Yeah, that's one thing that surprised me. 'Cause I thought in Japan, there is a big drinking culture here in Japan, especially with workers and salarymen and everything like that. But in Korea, I think it's just on a whole nother level. - Oh yeah. - It's like- - It's because soju fucks you up so much harder than anything Japan has. - They don't just fuck you up, they mix that shit with beer, man. - I know. - And I know there's a word for it, but it's like, it is traditional. - I think it's called devil's concoction.

'Cause that's what it should be called. - It is called regret the next day. That's the official Korean translation. - Hangover speed run. - Yeah, because I don't know why, like soju, I think like unflavored soju, that shit,

- That shit tastes, it's like turpentine dude. - Holy shit. - It's horrible. - It is, it is. I cannot handle that. It tastes too strong for me. For some reason, most of the time you mix some kind of spirit with a beer, tastes worse, right? For some reason, soju and beer, I don't know how they had this magical concoction that it's the perfect spirit to have with beer, but also it's the most dangerous one 'cause mixing any spirit with beer is just like a roadway to regret. - I love beers that hurt hearing that

- I know they mix it and I've tried it, the soju with beer, but I don't like it. - You don't like it? - No, I like my beer being beer. - I'm kind of indifferent to it. Maybe just because I'm a soju hater, but anything with soju, I'm like nah. - What's like the go-to beer in like Seoul? 'Cause you know how Japan has Asahi and the UK have terrible beers. - I don't remember. - There is one local Korean beer. - It's like the goat beer. - What's the goat? - I mean, I wouldn't,

necessarily call it the Goya. - It's like the beer that you drink if it's like cheap. - The Masquerade. - Oh, Kaino is it? Kaino is it? - Cass? - Cass. - That's it, yeah. - It's like they're like Asahi? Okay. - I had it and like- - I think I've had this one time. - Yeah. - I mean, it was all right. - I mean, I've had it and I don't blame them for putting soju in it. - The bog standard beer shouldn't be

the best tasting beer. It should just be a passable beer. - No, of course. - It's cheap, affordable and very easy to churn out. That's why Asahi's good 'cause it tastes like very, what's the word? - It's inoffensive. - Yeah, it's so inoffensive to everyone. Even if you're like not a big beer person, you're like, well, Asahi doesn't have much going on. It's just very light, very easy to drink. - I think Asahi's my favorite out of like the mass produced worldwide beers.

- Oh, okay, okay. - Like not the best beer, obviously. Okay, Germans, Germans, Belgians calm the fuck down for a second. - Obviously that crown goes to Budweiser as we've established. But if you go into a bar or pub and you see something on tap and it's just one of like, you know, Carlsberg, Asahi, Heineken, all like the normal ones, I'll choose Asahi every time. - Oh yeah, same. - That to me is like, it's the most refreshing beer and it's the most inoffensive as well.

- Fair enough. - But yeah, I don't rate Thai beer at all. That's just me. - I mean, we had it in Thailand. - You guys had it and- - I mean, it was all right. - I knew they didn't know what was going on with beer when they tried to hand me a straw. That's what I knew. I didn't trust them. I was like, this beer can't be good. No, no, no, no, don't give me a straw. What is that? What is that? What is that, Fruit Loop?

- Yeah, but like, I think the other thing that just got me shocked while I was in Korea was just, man, I haven't weighed myself, but I definitely put on weight because I mean, for one, I was eating so much more because everything was delicious. But I'm like, two, I'm like, how do these Koreans stay thin?

Like it's insane. Like, 'cause everything just seems so inherently bad for you. Especially when you compare it to like a lot of Japanese food. - I guess it's the same in Japan though, right? Like you can, when you come as a tourist, you can easily eat everything and it's like, most of it's pretty bad for you. But if you're living here, you probably eat a lot more healthy stuff. You probably have way more kimchi in your diet. - Oh my God. - Probably don't eat fried chicken often. - Dude, my farts were smelling like kimchi.

That's how much I was eating. - Was there a noticeable taste in the kimchi in Korea compared to foreign or have they got it figured out? - Yeah, okay. So like, I think the one reason why I rate Korean kimchi over like Japanese kimchi or like anywhere else I've had it is that like the cabbage just feels fresher.

- Okay. - Like even though it's weird because it's fermented, right? So technically it's not fresh, but I don't know. It has like a certain like crunch to it. I think that just feels nicer to eat. I think like a lot of kimchi I've had, especially in like Japanese, like yakiniku or wherever is like, it can get a little bit sloppy sometimes and very like soupy. Whereas I feel with Korean kimchi, they don't overdo it with like the,

the sauce or whatever it is, right? So it just feels lighter to eat. - I feel like that's more on like the chef or whoever's fermenting the kimchi and how much you ferment it. - But I had kimchi at every food establishment I was in Korea and it was all pretty unanimous with like the freshness of it. So I was like, okay, well, I mean, this is a Korean- - Looking for the third person, this sounds like a placebo kind of thing. It's just like normal kimchi,

Korean kimchi. - Maybe it was, I don't know. - Being in Korea. - I mean, it made my food experience that much more enjoyable, so I'll take it. But I also ate like way too much tteokbokki, 'cause like that's one of my fucking favorites. It's so nice. - It's heavy. - It's heavy and like, God, the first night I went to this like food market and I got like this,

full on bowl of topokki. This thing looked like it was sitting in a bowl of lava. Like it was so much sauce in there and it was red as hell. - It's so filling man. - It's so filling. - I'm not a big fan of topokki. - And God, my asshole was on fire the next day, but goddamn was worth it. It was so goddamn good. - Here's what I want to know. How was the airport in Korea?

- I don't know why. I feel like you can judge a city pretty accurately on the quality of the airport. - Really? - I feel like it gives you an indication of what to expect. Think about every airport you've been to. I feel like it's very reminiscent of the city as a whole, right? - Maybe, I don't know. - Have you ever been to an airport that feels wildly different to the city?

- I'm trying to think, right? Because a lot of airports are very just neutral in my mind. There's only like the big cities that stand out to me. - Yeah, so like where we landed, which was Incheon Airport, which is like, it's like the main- - So there's two airports? - Yeah, there's a number of airports in Seoul, I think. But Incheon is kind of like, Incheon reminded me of Narita.

where it was like kind of outside of the city. It was like an hour and a half away from Seoul central city. But that's where all the international flights. So we didn't have a choice. - That's the major one. - But it very much reminded me of Narita in a lot of ways, whereas like very bog standard, very gray, simple, nothing like, you know, they're not going like avant-garde with the like they do at Haneda, right? - Yeah, yeah. - I was like, yeah, I mean,

- It's fine. It was a possible airport. I mean, anything compared to LAX, right? As long as it's not LAX level, I'm happy. - Just keep me out of LAX and JFK. - I just started making mental notes of airports I go to, like which ones I liked and which ones I didn't. - What's your favorite airport? - Ever? - Yeah. - Dude, I really wanna go to this. - Singapore. - Singapore is like- - Singapore's the GOAT, man. - Singapore is the GOAT. - I agree. - I really wanna go to that one. - Yeah. Not to Singapore, just the airport.

- Once I get to the airport, I'm like, "I'm good, I'm going back." - I've been to Singapore, guys. - I wanna go to Singapore to get a better Southeast Asian country, right? Fellow Southeast Asians in watching this. - As a Malaysian, I would agree, Changi is very good. - It is a fucking nice airport, to be fair. - Why did I say fellow Southeast Asian? - Fellow Southeast Asian. - I'm one of you. - Hello, fellow Southeast, hello, fellow white people. How are you today? - I don't know.

- I'm trying to think, which one's been my favorite? - I think Vancouver airport's okay. - Vancouver's pretty nice. - Yeah, Vancouver's very nice. - I've never gotten off at Vancouver, but I've laid over at Vancouver airport, it was quite nice. - Yeah. - I'm trying to remember which airports have left an impression on me. - Vancouver has one of the best designs of like terminals I've seen. It's got like a very nice theme to it. I think it's meant to be like, I don't know, it's like all wood. I think it's supposed to be reminiscent of like indigenous.

- Right. - Groups. It's lovely. - All I remember from Vancouver airport is that- - Such a middle-aged man conversation. Which airport was your favorite? - The only thing I remember from Vancouver airport is that on the way to immigration, there's this like massive waterfall inside the actual airport. And I'm like, "Ooh, that's pretty." - Like, you know, I think to all the airports I've been to, and I feel like they do kind of do a very good job of like mirroring the city vibes in many ways. Like LAX is like,

like dysfunctional, but you can pay a lot of money to make problems go away. And it's just a mess and a war zone. The UK is like kind of fun, but also just a lot of headaches, which I feel like is the UK. - What about Sydney airport? - Sydney airport was great. - I had a great time at Sydney airport. - Just good vibes. - Good vibes. - That's a dump for us. - Sydney, I've never seen another airport do this. Sydney airport, like on the way to go to the passport check, I've never seen so many alcohol shots.

- Oh yeah. - It was like last chance. And then you go through, you're like, all right, another last chance. And you're about to go through and you're like, seriously now, last you have, you can buy four bottles. What are you doing? And then when you get through the passport thing, it's like, you put in your ticket to go through. It's like, where's your four bottles of alcohol? - Yeah. - You didn't buy any.

- Are you dumb? Go back your mate. - They're like, you don't understand how expensive- - Jono wants four bottles of Bombay Sapphire. What are you doing? - That's what every Australian complains about when they go abroad. They're like, the Bombay Sapphire is this cheap? Do you know how expensive it is in Australia? - Dude, it's like a bottle of Bombay in Australia is like $65.

- It's fucking ridiculous. That's why every time I come back home, my dad is like, "Four Bombay's mate, that's all I need." - It's not even that good gin, but it's just like pretty good. And it's like very good like consumer gin, I think. - Yeah. - You can get like fancy craft shit, but yeah. - Yeah, I really liked Sydney Airport, but like, I didn't know if I actually liked it or I was just relieved because it was such a big contrast from flying to LAX to flying to Sydney. And I was just like, "Oh my God, a pleasant experience at an airport, okay."

- Oh, I've missed this so much. - I remember when I went to New Brunswick Airport in Canada. New Brunswick is like right, right, right east just before Nova Scotia. Which was the weird thing as well 'cause I didn't realize that that even had its own time zone outside of the normal US one. It's minus, so the UK is zero. New York is minus five typically without, let's say ignore daylight savings. This one's minus three. So it's two hours ahead of New York 'cause it curves around like that.

And this Apple was so small. The person who checked me in then also helped like get the bags off the belt and hand it to the people picking them up. Like I checked in and then I put my bags on and I saw the same person go back and start helping like move the bags around. - I had the exact same experience when I flew to Yakushima and I was like, cause the plane itself could fit maybe like 20 people in it.

- Oh wow. - Tiny fucking biplane. And we landed and as we were coming down, I saw this fucking crap shack and I'm like, that's the airport? I've seen apartments bigger than this. - Yeah, the thing that sucks about getting two hours early for your flight for that is that you get there two hours early and you literally have nothing. There's nothing to do. They don't have anything. - You go inside and there's just like a bench. That's it. - Yeah, literally. And it was freezing cold 'cause it was in like Canada. It was winter.

- I remember one of the weirdest airports I've been to was back when I was a teenager, a popular holiday spot for young teenage Brits is a Kavos, which is like one of the- - Oh, Kavos. - Yeah, exactly. - Where is that? - It's one of, it's like an, sorry? - Isn't it in Spain? - I think it's Greek. - Oh, fuck. - One of the Greek islands. - Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. - This episode is sponsored by ExpressVPN.

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- Okay, okay, right. - It's the only destination to go and just get hammered as a teenager. - And I remember the passport check at that time when I flew there was we landed and we go into the airport and I'm waiting for the passport check and everyone's like, "All right, bring your passports out." And there's one security dude, no desk,

no nothing, just standing there. And you're literally just waving your, like there's a group of people just waving your passport as you like walk past him. And that was the passport check. And I was like, what is going on right now? Where's the national security? - Just dude going, yep. - Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. I've had a hard time getting into some nightclubs. I'm coming into this country and all I'm doing is just flashing my passport. Like what?

I don't know if it's still like that, but that's what it was like when I was 18. Jesus Christ. - Yeah, I mean, I think that was, yeah. Yeah, I remember I went to Greece and it was pretty much like, they were like, all right,

- Yeah. - What are you, you coming in? Yeah. No, no, no, don't get that. I don't get paid enough to check your passport. - But you went on your RV trip. - I did, yes. Four days of RVing. - Yeah, four days. - 12 hours of live streaming a day. - God damn. - Yeah. - Long time, but I think it went really well. - At least you got your hours in.

- Yeah, right. - You get the old hours in, you know how it is. Yeah, it was really fun. Very stressful, very, very stressful, very tiring. - Of course, of course. - You wake up one hour of prep and then go live and then one hour of prep and then sleep, rinse and repeat. - Jesus. - And sleeping in an RV is,

- It sucks. - It was a pretty big RV though, right? - Yeah, you got the best bed as well though. - I had the best bed, but it still sucks. - What the fuck are you complaining about? - He had the double bed. - It's only a double bed, it's not a queen. - Listen, listen, it's like, it's a cushion. It's a cushion.

And so I rented like, so when I rented this RV, you could take a bunch of things you wanted to rent with it. And I rented like the sleeping bags and the pillows. And I mean, you know, I'm not a picky guy, right? I mean, okay, I lie, I'm a picky guy. I'm a picky guy. But for this, like when it's a video shoot, I'm kind of, I'm like, whatever gets it done. You know what I mean? It's like, whatever we do to do. - Like you're not there for a holiday, right? - No, if it's a holiday and this happened, I'd be like, excuse me.

- Where is my king bag? - I would have, okay. So we rented the sleeping bag pillow set. We get this pillow and it's literally just this like, it's just a floatable like device. It's you to blow it up. - Yeah. It's like a pool noodle. - Yeah, which is fine. It's fine. But it's like, I feel bad when I'm asking like, I got Pete and dad has joined me and I feel bad when I'm like, hey guys, come join me by the way. You gotta be on camera for 13 hours and you have to sleep on a pillow.

on an air pillow. - Yeah. - I was just like, I'm sorry guys, man. I'm like, we can buy real pills if you want. No, no, it's fine, it's fine. It just sucks 'cause you just want a real pillow sometimes. - Why didn't you just like go to like a donkey and get like a cheap ass pillow? - Yeah, I pretty should have done that. - Yeah. - I should have done that. Didn't have much time. - Yeah, I'm gonna out myself for a bit.

- Yep. - I didn't sleep on the RV. - Yeah, you didn't. - Okay, I think, okay. - Immersion ruined. - Immersion, I know, I know. So I got there on the third day and I remember like I had a fucking mission getting to the RV on like the first day itself. And I remember, you know, at the end of the third day, everyone was fucking knackered and you could tell, right? You can tell the difference between, you know, Dylas and Pete, who I would say have been creating content for like a less,

a shorter amount of time than I have. 'Cause I'm like, when the cameras are off, I'm like, okay, we need to do a shoot tomorrow. I need to be well rested. They were being great mates and they'd be like, oh, let's do the RV experience. We're fine with it. We don't need the pillow. I got there and I remember asking, so where am I sleeping? And they told me where I'm sleeping and I measured it out and I'm like,

I was the tallest one, so I was like, I can't even lay flat. And I was like, do we have a pillow? And they were like, no. So I was like in my head, I was planning out, okay, how am I gonna sleep? Am I gonna like take my coat out, use that as a pillow? Luckily that was the day where there was like an extra like two beds that they had booked for that day. - Every day I booked like a,

well, an extra, a bunch of extra beds in the hotel or whatever, just because it was like, all right, if somebody wants to, I'm not gonna be like, you have to sleep in the RV. I'm like, I'll do it. Cause I feel like it's my thing and I should, but anyone else I'm like, fuck it, go sleep in the hotel. - Yeah, yeah, yeah. So, you know, after the cameras had rolled off, it was like, you know, 10:30 or something. The staff were like, everyone's knackered. The staff were like, all right, last call. Is anyone going to sleep in the hotel? This is your last chance.

And I turn over to like Pete and Didis was like, "Are you gonna take the bed?" And they were like, "Nah, man, we gotta stay here. We gotta stay here. Pete, you stay, you take the bed." "Nah, I gotta stay here, man." I'm like, "I'll be honest guys. I kinda wanna sleep in a bed tonight. And we're on camera tomorrow for like 13 hours. So I'm gonna take the bed, man. I've had enough shoots in my life that

'Cause here's the thing. I remember when I first started like doing IRL content, you know, I really wanted to get involved and immersed. And now like how many years after Trash Taste, I'm like, I just want a good night's sleep if I know I'm making content. - You can say that because you've experienced the Trash Taste road trip. - Oh yeah, that's that. - Where like that gave me so much knowledge into just how important a good night's sleep is. - Holy shit. I think it was because of the Trash Taste road trip where I was like,

I'm gonna be real Connor, I wanna bed tonight. - No, we were like, yeah, just go. We were like, get out of here. - Understandable, have a good night. I mean, I would have done it if there was no option available 'cause that's what I signed up for, but I was like, if the option is available, I'm gonna take it, man. I'm gonna take it. I'm sorry, I'm sorry, okay? Yes, I'm weak-willed, okay? Yes, I know, I know, okay? - It's fine, you didn't have to. I think what's important is you're on the stream. - Yeah, yeah, yeah, exactly, exactly.

But it was fun. Yeah, it was great. It was a ton of planning, a shit ton of planning to get it all to do. 'Cause we had to find like activities to do every day that was cool and would be interesting. And we had to make sure that we get signal. And if we didn't, we had to figure out other solutions.

Yeah, 'cause I wanted to stream it in basically 4K. So, 'cause Twitch doesn't let you stream in 4K 'cause it's terrible in that sense and doesn't let you do it. And I've complained so many times. I'm like, "Twitch, please let me stream in 4K." But they say no. So, but you can like still stream in 4K and then down sample to 1080p and it still looks great. - Yeah. - Yeah. So I really wanted to test out this 4K equipment and test out a camera with a better microphone.

to really try and make the IRL stuff feel more, what's the word? Upscale? - Yeah. - I don't know, like more production. - Higher quality. - Yeah, yeah. Like it feels more like a TV show where the camera doesn't stop rolling. - For sure, yeah. - Yeah. Which has its benefits and have its downsides. And you know, it seemed pretty possible. You just need a fuck ton of internet and good internet. 'Cause you need like five to four times the bandwidth

of a normal IRL stream for a 4K stream. So it's a lot more stuff going on and it breaks way more often. So I kind of was looking around, I started asking a bunch of people who knew all this stuff better than me. I was like, what camera is the best for this? Also, how do I do this? And how do I literally do everything? So you go and ask someone like, hey, what camera do I use? Then you'd be like, you go to the guy who knows how all the software works. Like, hey, will this camera work with this? This guy told me to get this camera. He's like, I mean, theoretically.

And then I needed to, there was so many little things that went wrong before I even started the RV trip where I was like, I don't even know if this is gonna make sense. This new thing came out, basically all streamers have two ways of broadcasting. There's these two boxes. There's a cheaper, more custom one that's harder to use.

but the benefit is that you don't have to pay like a monthly subscription. And then the one that most people use is this one that you have to pay a monthly subscription for. And it's a bit more expensive and has less kind of, what's the word, like customization. And that company that did that one brought out a bigger one that could do 4K. So I was like, okay, let's do it, let's do it. And then it turned out like,

to get it to work, you need to do a bunch of weird stuff that was like, what? And then you have to connect two modems to one USB thing. How do you connect two modems to one USB? Well, you need a USB splitter. And then that doesn't work for some reason. And then I asked the company, had to get them, I had to like speed dial the company and be like, hey, how do I get this to work? 'Cause in the guide it says you can do this. Like, oh no, no, no, you need a specific cable that isn't released yet. I'm like, what?

"What?" But then they were like, "Oh, we can send you some though." And I was like, "Oh, cool." But like, how was I supposed to know this? So luckily they sent me those and they arrived in time. This whole fucking headache, this is before we even planned what we're doing, getting the RV, getting in, how are we gonna film this thing? How are we gonna do it?

basically headache after headache. We got it to work though. And it looked pretty damn good, I think for the most part. Like we had to get creative with some solutions. So we even bought like a Starlink internet, which- - Fucking hell. - To get that to work remotely, I bought like a giant power generator thing.

- You didn't use Garnt's one? - No, he wore like the final form of that. - Oh, it's big. It's like a giant, giant battery that you charge and it takes hours. - It's basically just a generator at this point. - Right, right. - It's a generator basically. And then you basically like, we only had to use, luckily, thank God, we only had to use it like once or twice.

because it could get like way better internet than any of the cell phone towers could give us. But it's just like, you know, you're trying to stream and then you're like, all right, what's the internet? Oh my God, it's shit. And then you're on camera like, okay, okay. And then you're like, can we get the thing out? Can we hook it all up? And it's like, you're just juggling so many things and you're constantly checking all the texts working.

And then there's other stuff like there's a, we have the tracker on the map that shows you where I am, but I have to do that as well. So it's like, you're juggling just like 5,000. - This is why like, as much as I want to try more IRL streams, I'm just so scared to, 'cause I do not want to deal with that stress. It sounds like a fucking nightmare. - Well, you can just hire me now.

and I'll do it for you. - Can I get a mate rate? - We can get a mate rate going. And it sucks 'cause it's like, I try to show these guys how it all works and like people who I bring along, but it's so tough to explain to people how a lot of this stuff works and if it breaks, how to fix it. So it's still like, if something breaks more often than not, it's like, all right guys, gone, entertain. I'm gonna go and fix everything real quick.

And it's very frustrating, but I think it's worth it in the long run. Like it's a ton of stress and it's a ton of anxiety about if it's working. But I think the results speak for themselves. It looked amazing. - Yeah, what activities did you do?

- I forgot to even mention, I'm just too busy talking about the tech. That's the part I spent so much time on. - Everyone's like, "But the dolphins though, the dolphins." - So day one we did, so we started in, we picked up the RV in Shin Osaka, which is the bullet train stop in Osaka. We drove to Awaji and then we started there. And so day one was just all of Awaji Island, which is beautiful. It's a stunning island that connects mainland Japan to Shikoku. - It's also a weird fucking island.

- It's weird. They have so much touristy stuff though. Like if you're a tourist, you shouldn't sleep on Awaji Island. It's so cool. They have so much support for English speaking tourists as well. And they have a shit ton of stuff. So much anime stuff on Awaji Island as well. - Yeah, they have the Naruto theme park and the Hello Kitty hotel, I think. - Yeah. - That's all there. - Yeah. - And a bunch of other, just like why is this here? - So much stuff. - Kind of thing, yeah. - You know, one of the biggest challenges of doing IRL

normally is getting permission. And we had such a big rig where there was no way we could like, you know, kind of go in and- - Sneak around. - Not even sneak around, but like hope that it would just kind of be okay. Like we had such a big rig that like we had to get in contact with everywhere and arrange everything beforehand.

- Still a career in it now. - Yeah. - Right, right. Apparently I should go to fucking Korea. Like that's what I should've been doing. But luckily like everything we got permission for, it was all chill and it was great. So day one, we did a Zen experience in this like Bond villain headquarters. - Conveniently, that's not a day I was there. So, you know, Pete got the dub on that.

- We kind of made a fun challenge out of everything. And it was like, dude, this thing was sick. You guys would love it. You guys would love it. It was literally just this wooden, beautiful wooden structure that just extends over this view of like a bunch of trees and a bunch of landscapes in Awaji. And you can just meditate with a professional, I guess, Zen,

- Oh, was it the woman that was there? - There was a Thai woman. - Yeah, 'cause I saw the clip of like the woman introducing you and I was like, I think I hear a Thai accent there. - Yeah. - Wouldn't surprise me. - I think his name was Bilal. Was it Bilal?

- No, the guy who, yeah, Bilal, who is from Virginia, who trained with- - You know, the most Zen place on the planet. - I think like masters of meditation in Japan, but I think they're originally from India. But so he learned everything in Japanese. - Oh, right.

I think an Indian guy. I think so. I'm not sure. But he basically just went through it and he was awesome. He was up for the banter, even though we were kind of trying to make a joke or two while meditating. It was so much fun. It was great. And then we went to do Kawara tiles, which we'd done before. But then I beat my record and I beat their local record in that show. - I saw that clip, man.

- Yeah. - That was so fun. That place was great. They had costumes. It was literally like this John Wick or kind of, it was so reminiscent of like martial arts fight scenes, the bottom floor of this building. It was literally just a factory. It looked like a set piece of like- - Like an old boy or something? - Yeah, like a factory. 'Cause it looked like, it didn't look like a real factory. It looked like a factory in a movie.

And then just above this factory was a Kawara experience where you go and smash them. And I managed to break 34 tiles, which is fucking insane. I didn't think I could do it. And then just, I was like, oh wow. - Did you like kind of build yourself up to that? - Yeah, we did 20 and we'd been there for about two hours. I think at that point we were kind of like, all right, we should wrap it up. And I thought just for fun, let's just,

let's just go to 34 'cause we were going up by five. I was like, just add 14 'cause the record was 33. I was like, fuck it, I'll beat it.

But obviously I didn't think I was gonna beat it, but I thought it'd be visually pretty funny for the stream. - Yeah, yeah, yeah. - Somehow smashed it. - Yeah, you got it. It was the Bruce Lee costume, man. That gave you the power. - Yeah, it was the Bruce Lee costume. And then yeah, did it, and that was fun. And then we did like barbecuing. And then day two, we went from Awaji Island all the way over to Shikoku, the Northern part, and then went to Okayama, just above Okayama, camped there for the night. - Oh, so you went through the Seto Naikai like...

that we did the cycling special? - Oh. - You went through that side or? Oh no, you went on the other side. - No, the other side. - So the other side. - Right, right, right. - And we drove past like Takamatsu and go up. - Yeah, yeah, yeah. - And that's where we did like dolphin training and dolphin swimming. - And the dolphins. - They're so cute. They're so cute. Dude, and all the staff was so kind and they were so nice. And it seemed like they really were like obsessed with those dolphins. It seemed like they really loved it. - Yeah. - It was fun, man. Damn, dolphins are cool.

Dolphins are fucking crazy. - Did they meet the hype? Do dolphins meet the hype? The dolphin hype? - I'm still all precarious about dolphins. - Right, right. - I think we've talked to Malin one too many times. - Yeah, Malin's maybe scared of dolphins. They were cute though. They were cute. - They're so incredibly smart though. - Oh yeah. - And it shows. - Oh yeah. - Yeah. - Yeah, I'm pretty sure they were smarter than me.

- When I was there, I was like- - It's not a high bar, but- - Yeah, yeah, yeah. - I had to set the bar very high. - Monkey versus dolphin, right? - But they were cute and very impressive, very intelligent creatures. - Yeah. - Yeah, and it was nice. And the whole area was pretty cool. - What did they feel like? - Like rubber.

- They look like they're made of rubber. - Yeah, they feel like rubber, honestly, like smooth rubber. I don't know how to describe it. It's very odd. - Yeah, yeah. - Like a wet rubber. - Yeah, and that was so cool to stream 'cause the clips of it look awesome. Like the quality of it considering we're just on a pier in the ocean. We're pretty far out from the coast and it's really cool.

Like this looks awesome. And again, I just, my whole thing is that like originally for me, this whole, which sounds so weird to say, like this whole RV trip was kind of like a test in my mind to see if this could work. And now that I see that it went really well, I kind of want to try and do it again, maybe bigger and see how I can improve it. Make it more easy on everyone involved as well. So that it's not exhausted all the time. But yeah, the dolphin thing was great that day.

And they taught us about dolphins. They gave us a little quiz about how to- - What did you learn? - How to tell between a male and a female dolphin. Didn't know that. - Oh, okay. - Didn't know that. - So the one that has the massive cock is the male. - They have more lines, I guess, or spaces where maybe baby dolphins would come out of and where they would do the deeds. That's the difference I found out. They told us not to put trash in the ocean. Been doing that anyway.

- Been on a good run with that. - Yeah, yeah. - And then we went to this open air theater near the Dolphin Place. And dude, this open air theater is sick. - As in like what? Like a drive-in theater or something? - What's the official, what's the actual name? - Amphitheater? - Amphitheater, yeah. - Oh, okay. - It's like this stunning theater and it's behind it is the ocean. - Oh, wow. - And then if you stand in this one specific spot, your voice,

like completely resonates so loudly that it's like a megaphone, but you're just talking. But only in this one specific spot, you have to stand there and you move one step and then you sound normal and you step in this exact spot and it's like, boom. It's like, just gets like absolutely like,

It's insane. - Physics. - Yeah. It's like, what the fuck? How? How do they do that? I know it's physics, but like it was so impressive. Just the volume difference. - Yeah, yeah. - It just blew my mind. We had a little talent show there. It went really well. Pete won the talent show 'cause of course he did 'cause he's so talented. - Of course he did. - That doesn't surprise me. - Literally the most entertaining dude I know. - Yeah, exactly. - And then we had a barbecue while it was snowing.

in the middle of nowhere where Gant eventually came and joined us at like 1:00 AM after the stream ended. But we were in the middle of, I don't even know, we didn't even use a Starlink that night, but we had really good signal in the middle of the mountains, in no city. We were like an hour away from any city. I have no idea how we had any signal. - One thing that surprised me on the road trip was when you're constantly on the air, sometimes you go to a point, it's open road,

nothing to block the signal and it just like loses connection. And then you go in like a mile long tunnel and it's just like perfect signal all the way through. And I'm like, what? - It's so random. - How does this work? I should know 'cause I'm an electronic engineer, but I'm just like, how are we having signal right now? - It's cell phone towers. And also depends on which provider they are, which SIMs.

I have, but I have multiple different sims that do, that should cover everything, but it really depends. Certain areas just have just nothing. But the first day was pretty tough, I think. There was not a lot on Awaji, surprisingly. And the third day we did, which Garnt joined us for, we did- - We did golf. - Golf, we went to a driving range. - Oh, nice. - And I like, this was the first time I'd been on a driving range or like picked up a golf club since I was, I think like 18.

- It was fun. - It's so much fun. - I told you. - Oh God. - I've been telling you boys that we should go to golf for the longest time. - I missed it so much. I missed it so goddamn much. - It's not until you hit the driving range where you're like, why is this fun? - Yeah. - So yeah, we did that and we did a competition to see who could hit it the furthest. - Uh-huh. - Yeah. - I won. - You won? - I got one very good shot. - That's all you needed. - Dude, it was so fun. I want to go driving range more. - Yeah. - And then we did...

What else did we do that day? I forgot. - We did a sand surfing. - Yeah, we went sand surfing in Tottori. - Oh, hell yeah. - That was fun. - We went back to the ghost town that is Tottori.

I drove past the industrial area and we're like, don't look at that. Don't look at that. All right, look at the sand dunes, which I think looked even more like the weather conditions and just the color. - Oh, it was better than the weather. - It looked even better than when we went there on our road trip special. - Because the cameras we were using for this live stream were better than the cameras we filmed the road trip special. So it looks better live, which is insane. And I also didn't know if Totodile was gonna have internet.

But yeah, Tottori has great internet as well. So fun fact, there you go. - How does that work? I don't know. - So we were in the, it looks insane on the stream. We're just in the middle of a desert streaming. It's just like, what the fuck? And then we're going down these hills and it looks great. Dude, it like,

- Like it looks so underwhelming on camera, but it was kind of scary going down these. Cause you're going pretty fast and sand. I mean, I didn't fall, so I can't. - Yeah. - Can't go. - It probably hurts way more than snow. - I imagine you fell on your wrist right? - I fell on my wrist once. Okay, so I'll say right now, sand surfing.

- It was kind of a mad experience. - Yeah, 'cause you just go down and you can't do hills that are super crazy 'cause I guess if you get too fast, falling would be pretty dangerous. - And you can't turn either. We weren't given any instructions. So how I described it, sand surfing was basically felt like a tutorial level for snowboarding.

Because I remember- With bigger consequences. Yeah, basically. You fall, it hurts a little bit more. But essentially, you go up to the hill. And I remember we had an instructor there and I was preparing myself for the instructions to start.

And the instructions were, so don't fall. - Yeah, yeah, that was literally it. - That was like, don't try to turn. You're just going straight. Just don't fall. And that was the instructions. And he was like, okay, go. - You might as well have just like been on a sled then at that point. - Actually, he told us before we started, he was like, if you think this is gonna be like snowboarding, you're gonna fail. And I was like, what? How can it be? It wasn't that hard actually. He was capping.

- Yeah, yeah. - You just have to balance the same way. - Yeah, yeah. - But also all he said was, he said it might be too hard, so he brought sleds as well. Which was kind of worrying, 'cause I was like, uh-oh, that's not good. Too hard, is someone gonna hurt themselves? So he just gave us a helmet, he said, "Bend your knees and then just go." That was all. - Yep. - Wow, what great instructions. - He pushed us, yeah. - Yeah, and then he goes, "Oh, by the way, 10-year-olds can do this." Like, "Rub it in."

- What an asshole. - Yeah. - They were already nice. - They were already nice. But yeah, I mean, it was kind of, like I said, it was kind of like snowboarding except you couldn't do anything but go straight. So essentially you just kind of had to learn how to balance going down a hill pretty fast.

I'd forgotten, like it's been a while since I last snowboarded and I'd forgotten basically everything I got told when I first started snowboarding. I remember going snowboarding for the first time with the boys and the first thing they told me was when you fall, don't put your hands out. You gotta put your hands in. And I, for some reason, my mind was just like, sounds different.

- Sand's totally different. - I'll go straight through it. - Sand is totally different than snow. I don't have to worry about sand. And the first time I felt, I put my hand out and it wasn't even like that big of a fall. I was going nowhere near as fast as I was going when I was like snowboarding. But I just had like a little bit and my wrist, hit my wrist and I was, I had that immediate moment where I was like, oh, that felt bad.

That felt bad. I was like, okay, it's not broken. I might've sprained it. Luckily I didn't sprain it, but had a big wake up call. Very, very fast. Falling on sand surfing, the fall, it might not be as hard as snowboarding, but the fall definitely hurts more. And luckily I wasn't the one who ate the most shit. Probably Didis did. - Oh my God. I felt so bad. Didis, he would nail it going down. And the moment like the hill went from this to kind of like this, he just kind of lost his balance every time and face planted.

I felt so bad for him. He just kept getting beaten up. - Jesus Christ. - He had a few balls that looked pretty painful. - Oh my God. - But he powered through it. He's a tank. - Yeah, tripper. - It was fun, but it was kind of like, it was very much like, oh, that's it? - Yeah. - Like it was like, oh, that's all we could do? - Yeah. - I feel like- - That kinda sucks. - I mean, it was definitely, I think it was still like a fun place to check out.

I think it's like we hit like every kind of scenery. Like we went from like beautiful, stunning green islands to snow, to desert, and then back to Osaka. And it was kind of like, it covered everything. And then we did that. And then we played video, not video games. We played games in the RV, which is really fun actually. - Yeah. - Break the Ice is a great game. - Yeah, Connor introduced me to Break the Ice. - You've played this game? - No. - It's like a little thing where it's like a penguin in the middle and a bunch of hexagons. - Yes, I have played this. - And then you go like,

- It's so good. It's such a good game when everyone's kind of hype and ready and you have like punishments and it was so good. - It's kind of like that mini game from four guys, the one with the hexagon. - Except you have to hit them. - But you have to hit them. - Such a good game. There's so many good clips from it. And it was just a fun, it was such a good fun board game. - I think as much as like you guys did these like amazing things on the RV strip, I think my favorite clip to be both out of it was when you asked Didis what Milo was.

- It looked scripted, that's how perfect it was. 'Cause he was so sincere about it, it was like, "What's my loan?" - Thank you to the guy in Australia who,

- Got us with that because that trained us to get someone else with it. - It's our new favorite. - Yeah, it's my new favorite. As a Southeast Asian, that's my new favorite 'cause we fucking love Milo in Southeast Asia. That's our chocolate of choice. - You don't like it?

- Not oh yeah, I said oh yeah. - Oh no. Navi off screen just went, "Oh yeah." And I was like, "What?" - Yeah, yeah, yeah. - Is it much better than Nesquik or is it? - Oh hell yeah. - Hell yeah. - Hell yeah. - Australia's the same, we fucking love our mile. - Yeah, yeah. - It's so good.

- It was good 'cause it was like, there was a lot of good clips in the car and you know, it's more of a podcast when it's in the car and it's back to the activities. - Yeah, yeah, yeah. - The board games were really fun. That was one of my favorite aspect to it. - Yeah. - And just playing dumb board games and just everyone has their own rules to everything. - That's what I'm saying, man. We gotta do more board games. - Jenga is just like, what are the rules of Jenga? 'Cause we just kind of like made it up as we go along. - There's like a million load of rules. - The only rule that was sacred was top three layers, can't touch top three layers. - Yeah, that's the only sacred rule. - If you touch it, you have to move it.

- And you have to use one hand only, right? That's another rule. But I don't know if it's an official rule. I swear people just make up rules for Jenga and be like, "Yeah, let's just make it a billion times harder than it actually supposed to be." - Yeah, like we had this one moment where I swear this isn't allowed, but we had the run with the one hand thing. And Connor used his one hand to basically change the entire structural integrity of this tower. It went from like a Jenga tower to the leaning tower of Pisa. And he was just like,

- He was just like bouncing it. - I was getting it out my finger while kind of holding the rest of the- - He can't do that. - I was saying this looks so illegal right now. - 'Cause it was like, what sucked is that we were like four turns in and this one block wouldn't move.

- And I was like, are we really gonna end this game in four turns? That's so boring. - Yeah, but how is that any different to like grabbing with one and then using your other hand to just hold the entire thing in place, right? - I mean, like honestly, Jenga should always get to that point in my mind where like you holding it makes no difference to like, like if I, like it gets to the point where me holding it is gonna make it worse. You know what I mean? Because it gets so fucked, the tower is like, holding it is actually a disadvantage. I don't know, that's just me.

- Maybe I'm trolling, I've got it wrong. - House rules, house rules. RV rules. - And it was like snowing outside and we had the, 'cause the connection was kind of mad. We had like the Starlink on a table outside of the van connected to this generator. And then we were just using that internet and that was like saving the stream way better. 'Cause again, we were in the middle of nowhere again.

And that saved it. And then the last day we did airsoft. - That was so much fun. That was my first time airsofting. - Yeah, me too. - That lived up to the hype. I want to go again now. - It was fun. - I actually, I think I found it funner than paintballing.

- Yeah, well it hurts a little less. - It hurts a little less and the guns just look cooler as well. Like reloading a airsoft gun actually feels like more similar to reloading a real gun rather than just fucking like pouring a bunch of paint balls into the gun. - Yeah, that was fun. We did, we were like, again, we had to like move the Starlink around to get into that.

'cause the bit rate was terrible there. It was such bad internet. 'Cause obviously it's an airsoft field, it's in the middle of nowhere. - Got shot on the neck three times. - Yeah, your neck's fucked up. - Oh yeah, I see that. - Yeah, I got shot on my head as well. - Looks like I got bitten by a vampire actually. - Hey, you guys said it hurts less than a paintball? - It does hurt less than a paintball. - I mean, this one fucking hurt. This one clocked me in my forehead. - Yeah, I was about to say, the scars tell me otherwise. - There's one red dot on Connor's forehead that I did, unfortunately. - Yeah, yeah. - Hurt shot.

- That was the kill camera. - 'Cause like most of them are fine. They're like little stings, but like, yeah, if you get hit in the head or the neck, I feel like that's where it fucking is. - My legs hurt so much because we were in a course where it was just like a bunch of like parts cars, you know, it was like the car park kind of area. First thing Dinah says was like, "Oh, I thought these were real cars, so I tried not to like shoot them." And then like they had broken windows and shit. But unfortunately being-

- Do you remember that? - Yeah, I couldn't believe you said that. - Average car park in Maine. - Average Ohio car park, right? But yeah, like unfortunately being tall was a huge disadvantage in this one because if I just like poked, if I just poked my head out, I would instantly get headshot. It was actually really easy to be quite accurate on the,

on the airsoft. It was like surprisingly accurate. - It was cool. - Yeah. 'Cause I got a few headshots from like a distance. You got so many shots from distance as well. - Yeah, I got a lot of headshots from distance. Especially on Didis. - That's an FPS player advantage. - An FPS player advantage, right? - Well, 'cause I realized like when you're aiming it, like obviously I'm not like cracked at aiming airsoft 'cause I haven't played it, but like you shoot,

And unlike paintball, the airsoft bullet always goes the exact same like trajectory. So all you do is like, and you can see where it's going and then just keep like readjusting. And then you can pretty much get it so that like if they poke their head at all, you can just get them. - Get them, get them. - Right, right. - And you can just slightly adjust. So I just kept doing that and I kept getting died. I felt so bad. I tried them so many times.

- Next time I see him, his face is just gonna be like, fuck. - Well luckily he was wearing a thick hat. So like his face was totally covered. He had the one that covered his ears too. So it was like, he was fine. - He was ready. - Yeah, it was really fun. And we had like, unfortunately the camera had to go around with us and he would get shot sometimes. 'Cause he was just going around

It looked awesome. It looked like an FPS thing. And again, it was like great quality, like 4K in the middle of nowhere. And then we changed POVs where there was an area where you could go above and you could look down. - Oh wow. - With the camera. So it was kind of like a bird eye view of the whole thing happening. - Like no clipping.

- Yeah, it was like such a cool stream and we had such fun with it. - We had this one game where I just could not find Pete and Pete just, Pete clipped into another map, right? There was like this indoor stage, right? That was like very narrow corridors and Pete spent like whole five minutes in this outdoor map and he didn't even know he was in a different map. - We didn't know he was in a different area. Like we didn't know that.

Bro clipped out to a different fucking stage, man. But yeah, like it hurts a lot less than paintball. Like paintball, I feel like you can still very, like even if you're wearing like thick clothes, you can still kind of feel it. - Oh yeah. - This one, unless you get shot like directly on the skin, it doesn't really hurt that much.

Have you been paintballing before? - I've been paintballing before. I've never been air softening. And I've been shot directly with a paintball before. - That sounds like a very Aussie thing. - As punishment for whoever got the least amount of points, you have to get shot directly in the stomach.

with a paintball. And I had that a couple of times and I was left with like literal holes in my stomach for like weeks. - Bro, the bruises you get from paintballing. - Oh, it hurts so much. - Holy shit. - Paintballing feels more like you're just trying to avoid getting killed. And airsoft felt more kind of, 'cause it didn't hurt as much, you kind of felt more fun. - Yeah, yeah, yeah, exactly. - But yeah, I mean, I do enjoy that adrenaline aspect of paintball where you're like, I just don't wanna get shot. - Yeah, paintball is like Valorant.

And airsoft is more like COD, I would say. - Yeah, right. - Because you do not want to get shot in paintball. You're like, it's one shot kill. If I'm getting shot, I'm fucking out, man. But with airsoft, you're like, I can run. I can run this. I can run and go. - Yeah, you would just run around corners 'cause you knew that if you got shot, it wasn't like the end of the world.

- Yeah, yeah, yeah. - I have a paintball and it's like, well, I'm gonna have a bruise if I get shot. I have to actually like- - This thing's gonna hurt. - I have to think about what's happening. Man, yeah, no, it was such a fun RV stream then we just drove back and ended it. And that was like 40 hours of streaming. - Hell yeah. - How's it being live for like that long? - It's okay for me. - I mean, he's done subathons before. - Yeah, I'm okay with it, but like, man, doing it and driving is tough. Like driving is taxing mentally anyway. And then trying to,

- Also be like good, like conversing while driving is hard. - Yeah. - Which is why it's great to have, you know, you and Pete and Dydus. - Yeah, the real question was how was it for you? 'Cause you're probably not used to that. - I was actually like pretty fine with it. - You've gotten really good at it. - I think after the 24 hour charity stream we did, that was like hard mode for me. And then everything afterwards was pretty easy. 'Cause I remember like, I think Dydus and Pete, they were telling me like the second day was like

like tough to like make sure there was no dead air, dead air anytime for like 13 hours. Right. - Yeah.

So like they were really happy. I tried to like put as much of the pressure off as possible. But yeah, it's just kind of, like I said, after you like survive 24 hours with sleep deprivation and just like constantly talking, I feel like anything, anything's possible. Anything's possible afterwards. - That's fair. - But yeah, I wouldn't want to do when I'm driving. 'Cause I want to be zoned out when I'm driving, you know? - Yeah, yeah. I mean, especially when I, 'cause I, you know, it's my first time ever driving a car that big.

I think that's literally like the limit of what the license allows in Japan. - Anything after that is just a truck. - Anything after that, I have to get a different license. 'Cause even like certain RVs I can't drive. Like I have to drive the smaller RVs and the lighter ones. 'Cause I wanted to get a different RV initially, but it was slightly too heavy.

So I had to get this one, which is fine, but it was really fun to drive it. Like it was, 'cause the difference between like a car and an RV is an RV you're kind of like deeper, way more forward in the RV. So you're like, there's pretty much no distance between your feet and where the car ends.

So you can really clearly see where the car is like everywhere. Whereas like with a long, with a normal car that's kind of like got a bigger front, it's like sometimes it's way harder to figure out where the fuck the front of the car is. Especially like that corner or I guess for America it'd be that corner.

But it was fun though, 'cause you get like this panoramic view of the road. 'Cause you have these giant windows to all sides of you that you can see. And these giant mirrors and the dash cam, the behind you cam, like the rear view cam is like on this,

It's really fun to drive. Scary on some roads, but I think I got pretty good at driving it by the end. I knew how to tackle- - You looked like a proper trucker. - Yeah. - You had fully embraced that role. - It was fun, I was impressed. - You just needed the hat

- I had a trucker hat. - Yeah, you had the trucker hat, you needed the red ball and a pack of cigarettes and you were all set. - One of my favorite like out of context screenshots was like, it was when Connor was driving and the stream had glitched. So it looked like he just removed his chin. So it just gave Connor like a fucking leafy chin where it was just like no chin Connor. - Trucker Connor. - Trucker Connor. - Saj.

- Yeah, that was my favorite out of context clip. But I'd say congratulations. - Yeah, man. - Thank you, thank you. Appreciate it. - Very, very well. - Good on you, man. - Thank you. I'll probably do another one at some point in the future and I'll probably figure out how to make it better. - Yeah, for sure. - There's definitely ways it can be improved. - Well, what do you think about how you can improve it?

- I think having either another additional person during the whole time or rotate out more people is definitely a way to kind of make sure that everyone can be more energetic. 'Cause it's demanding. Like 13 hours every day is pretty tough for most people, even like streamers, especially when you're doing stuff outdoors as well and you're actually getting physical. It can be pretty demanding. Probably,

I don't know, maybe I feel like I'd have to stay in the RV, but I wouldn't make other people stay in the RV. I feel like just staying in a hotel is so much better. 'Cause also like showering was annoying. Like getting- - Oh yeah, hot water was a commodity. - Yeah, I don't think we had, we had like no hot water like any time. Like all the campsites had freezing water. It was just so cold. It sucked so much.

Definitely got to find someone who maybe understands the bag and the streaming stuff more. - So you're not the only tagger. - Well, 'cause it's like, you know, we start this, like the morning prep is like, I wake up, I have to get all this bag stuff ready and stuff. And it's like, well, man, I wish I could just,

turn the camera and we're going, right? But it's like, I have to get it all ready. You have to make sure everything's charged, make sure it's all working. And then when you go to bed, when the stream ends, sorry, I have to unplug everything, make sure everything, everyone knows what to charge what and just get everything ready before I can start going to bed. So it's kind of tough. I'm just trying to think of how I can make it better, but it was really, really fun, really successful. I want to do it again. - Hell yeah. - Yeah, you guys got any plans coming up?

- No, no plans? - I'm doing the cycling thing again. - Yeah, when are you announcing that? By the time this episode is out, are you going to have announced that? - I think it'll be done. No, it'll be like basically done. - Oh shit. - I think it'll be like, I think- - Tell us all about it. - It's like a month from now, right? - Yeah, yeah, yeah. - Yeah, this is like coming out halfway, I think like near the end of it.

- Yeah. - Okay. - So I'll do another one of those. - Yeah, 'cause I remember you saying we finished the RV trip and Connor's like, "Yeah, okay, time to start planning my next event." And I was like, "God, fucking hell Connor, calm the fuck down. Stay inside for a bit, play some video games, man." - Stop touching grass. - I wanna go outside more.

- Too much grass, man, too much grass. - I wanna go outside, man. - You're an outdoorsy person now? - Oh no, I just, yeah, I like going outside and doing things. - Yeah. - Also, it could just be like disgusting. - Yeah, yeah, you know, I also wanna do more things for charity as well this year. And that's one thing I really wanna do. And I hopefully have another event in future that we can do for charity. - Yeah. - Yeah, I just wanna do more cool things. Like I'm not really interested about, I don't know,

working in my stream set up and doing that a bunch. 'Cause I still wanna do that, but I think my real passion is just trying to do fun things and how can I make it engaging? - Yeah, I'm very, very excited because by the time this episode's out, I'm gonna be back in Thailand. That wasn't like, I didn't originally plan for that, but I think after our last trip where we all went to Thailand and we were only there for a week,

I didn't realize how much I missed being back in like my home country. - I miss being in Thailand. - Holy shit. I just wanted to like, I just wanted to, 'cause like when we last went back to Thailand, it was like, you know, busy, busy, busy every single day. We had something going on and it was, you know, taking care of everyone coming. And I was just like, I just wanna, I wanna,

Last year was so fucking busy. I just want a month where I could just chill out and just maybe do nothing, but just enjoy the sun, enjoy the nice weather and just fucking chill out. And I was just like, I was thinking to myself, how long has it been since I,

- I last had that. I literally cannot remember since the beginning of "Trash Taste" I think. - I feel like even just like this year, January and February, we've done more just in these past two months than like six months last year. I keep waking up and looking at my calendar. I'm like, how is it still February?

It feels like I've been doing shit for like six months. - Yeah. - And it's just so jam packed, but I mean, we do it to ourselves. So it's whatever. - Exactly. - No one else to blame. - I like being busy. I like being busy. - I do too, but like- - I like it as well. - I also like relaxing. - I do, I don't know, it's weird. Like, I feel like I enjoy, okay, question. When you like work a lot, how much, how many days or even a day or like how much time do you need to mentally kind of like have a reset? - Like per week or?

- I try and give myself at least one or two days. - What's the ratio? What's the ratio of like work to like break that you can do? - You guys are in sync. - That was like the brain cell firing up. I don't know, for me it's weird, right? Because I can, I have these like, it's either one mindset or the other. And I find it really hard to,

find a balancing middle ground. I don't know if that makes any sense, but there'll be like entire months where I'm like grinding every day. I've got something going on every day. And then like, I've got this like, kind of like, you know, my mind's just like constantly busy. I gotta do something. And then there've been points where I've had a week off and I've like, it's taken me just a few days just to get used

to having nothing to do. But like once my mindset switches, it also takes effort to get back into like the grinding mindset as well. The best analogy I could think of is, I remember back in like university college days where you had like exam season, right? And every single day for like a month, you'd be studying for exams or yeah, two months. You'd be studying for exams and you'd be taking exams. You'd just be, you know, every day you'd wake up, open a textbook,

studying till you sleep and just piss yourselves because you're like, fuck, I'm gonna fail at this exam, right? But I've got to get this shit done. And the only thing you could think of is,

I'm so fucking excited for when this is over. I'm gonna do so much. I'm gonna do so fucking much. You're like every day you open your book, you look at your steam library and you're like one day, one day, that day when this exam over, I'm gonna get to you. - Just slowly caress your monitor. - Yeah, yeah, yeah. - I'm almost there. - Yeah, I'm almost there. And then you get to the last day, you finish the exam. You're like, I'm fucking done. Holy shit. I feel so good.

- What do I do now? - Yeah. - Like that's my life now where it's like, I have this like month where it's entirely booked out and then I get to the end of that month and which it's slowly coming up now 'cause I packed myself in February. I gave myself some time off to chill out in Thailand. And then I finished all my work

And then I remember I was like, I didn't know what I wanted to do. So what I ended up doing was helping my mates actually. So instead of taking a holiday, I ended up helping Sydney film, helping Connor with his RV trip and everything. And then I just realized I just ended up

filling up my schedule doing other things instead of taking a break, which is why I felt like if I take a break- - I could leave the country. - I need to leave the fucking country to actually stop myself. - Know where it's safe. - Yeah, yeah, yeah. I can't do anything if I'm in a different country, right? That's the play. - It is the ultimate like, "Sorry, man, I'm busy." - Yeah. Sorry, man, in a different country. - Yeah. I don't know, man.

- I recently, I'm pretty sure I said this in "Trust is Right." I bought this really fucking nice coffee machine. It was way too much money, but it's been- - But you've reached that age. Now you've reached that age where like, you're like, my highlight right now is I bought a new coffee machine. - Dude, honestly, true.

And it's made my mornings so much better. Just to have a lovely ritual where I hear, I put the beans in, I grind the beans and I just, it's so nice. It's so nice. I steamed the milk myself as well. And I'm like, dude, this is great. And just, so like for me, I...

- Now, like just having, if I have like a little lie, lie and I say lie, but like, if I can get like a nice little relaxing morning where I can kind of have an hour, an hour and a half to kind of chill out, probably have to do something. Dude, that's like, I can reset like that. That for me is enough. 'Cause then I get to make this coffee. I get to have a really nice chill morning and then I can start doing my stuff. - I think it says a lot that, you know, after everything we've talked about,

after like all the exciting things you've done. Off camera, like the most passionate I've ever seen Connor recently, it wasn't like being excited for the RV trip or anything. It's talking about his fucking coffee machine. - His coffee machine is my favorite. - I remember coming to your house and you're like, yo, you gotta see my coffee machine. Try a bit of the coffee. Come on, let me tell you about my mornings now. - We've literally gotten to that point. 'Cause like I recently bought like a new vacuum cleaner.

like a couple of days ago, I got the latest Dyson one. I've never been that excited in my life to use. I'm like, oh, oh, this is, this is not, I could try this out. - The green laser that shows you the shit on the floor. - The green laser and also has like the little monitor on the back that shows you the different particles that you've sucked off. - That's a thing? - Yeah. - So like the floor looks clean, but then this laser, when it points at the floor, shows you all the shit that's in it. It's kind of scary. - And it gives you a percentage of like

house dust and like other specs and like- - Tells you what's in the shit. - Yeah, it tells you what's in the shit. I'm like, oh, okay. I got a little bit more house dust today. All right, let's go. - Do Dyson make some overpriced garbage? But I will say their vacuums, very good. - Oh yeah. - They should keep doing that. - Yeah. - I mean, they are.

- But yeah, no, I mean, it's great. 'Cause like, I also get to like, I also get to like go to like, I have a, there's a local coffee store near me that just does beans. And I love going there. - Beans. - Beans. - Beans. - I love going there. I love talking to the elderly couple that runs it and just saying like, man, you know, I like this beans that you gave me. I like these ones. It's nice. It's like my whole experience. And then I get excited to try the new blend that I bought. Dude, it's just like great.

It's like a nice like whole chain of just every part of it makes me feel like more of an adult and more like, I don't know, just taking care of myself. Just having a nice coffee. Even though now I probably drink an unhealthy amount of coffee more so. It's hard 'cause I have to pull back a little bit now. - Yeah, yeah. - 'Cause like day one, dude, it was like, dude, I had like nine coffees. I couldn't stop. It was so good.

- It was so good. - You had nine coffees. - It must have been high balling. It was pretty like, exaggerating, sorry. - That's what drug addicts do. - It was like five. It was still too much. - It's like, yo, I had five hits when I first tried it, man. I couldn't stop. - It was still too much. It was a lot, but it was great. And so now I'm trying to keep to two a day.

- Look at us, man. Getting excited for coffee machines, wanting to go to a driving range again. - I think, you know, it's like- - We've gone to that point. - I get it now. Like I, you know, 'cause when people want, you know that whole thing that people do sometimes, this always happens every time on the internet after like a few months where like, there'll be that article that's like,

- No, people aren't broke. They're just spending it on the wrong things. And it's like, dude, sometimes that little thing makes someone so happy. - Oh yeah, it is. - Why would you say that stuff? Yes, people do frivolously spend on sometimes, but sometimes you need those little things. - It is. - That just get you through the day.

Like sometimes you have a rough day, you have a rough schedule coming up. You've got a packed work week and just having that, maybe having that milkshake, having that McDonald's something, maybe buying that one silly thing you shouldn't have bought. Just got you through the week. - I had that recently 'cause I bought a fucking groove coaster controller.

- You are the king of buying useless shit. Let's be real. - Joey, you are that person. - Joey made me so happy. - Joey will be the guy who's like, I bought a giant trampoline. And we're like, Joey, you don't have a backyard. He's like, I'll just- - I'll make it work. - I'll find one. - I'll find a backyard that I can put it in. - Joey's like, I bought one out of 10,000 Pink Floyd signed albums. And I'm like, all right. - Dude, I wish.

- I fucking wish. - Yeah, I ordered this fucking like custom made like groove coaster controller that like can connect to your computer just like simple USB. You can also play it on the switch as well. - Have you done it on stream yet? - Not on stream yet, but I've been playing it mostly off stream just cause it makes me personally happy. - You gotta bring it on the stream man. - I'll get to it eventually, but just every morning it's just like a ritual now where I'm like,

I got an hour free, boom, just right on the desk for an hour. That's my morning coffee. That's my shot of caffeine in the morning. - Did you have like a purchase? Because I feel like we all had a pretty similar mindset and I'm pretty sure a lot of people have a similar mindset where, you know, in college, you couldn't imagine spending your money on anything

other than things that will help you survive, right? Anything like if you need something outside of just, you know, video games, I don't really count video games, you know, 'cause you know, everyone buys video games. Everyone needs some entertainment in their lives, you know, everyone has like- - I mean, it's integral to my survival,

- Yeah, yeah, yeah. Okay, I feel like it's integral to my survival. So is like a fucking Netflix subscription or whatever, right? Or something, outside of basic laptop,

subscriptions or like video games and you know, and food comes after those in fact. Those in university, those were more necessary to me than having a nice meal. - It's like I could buy a PS4 right now or I could not eat Top Ramen for the next 10 miles. - PS4 sounded good. - Do you remember the first moment you realized

"I have disposable income now. "What do I do with disposable income?" - I think first time, I think any of us got our first paychecks from YouTube, right? Being like, "Oh." - Oh no, for me it wasn't even YouTube. For me it was fucking,

- The BBC. - Oh yeah. - Just realizing that I- - You worked there? - Yeah, I worked there. Just to say this isn't a YouTuber conversation right now. I remember getting that first check. - No, same with my other jobs as well, yeah. - Well, I was unemployed before that. - Actually, no, that's not true. The first time I got a paycheck was when I was working in the ski fields in Nisico when I was 16 and I used that paycheck. - What'd you buy? - I bought a 3DS.

- Hell yeah. Hell yeah. - I was like, you know, I could like, you know, maybe go to a nice restaurant with like some friends or, you know, go out and go to a pub or something, you know, like something like that. And I was just like,

"I really wanna play that new Animal Crossing though. "I just don't have the 3DS." Fuck it. I bought a 3DS and it was the best purchase I ever made. - Yeah, I can't remember what my first, I mean, outside of like games, like I said, I already count games, but I feel like if I spend more, the thing I probably spend the most of my disposable income on now is probably like meals, good food.

I remember a point in my life where I could eat the same thing every day and be satisfied with it. - I'm still at that point. - I'm still kind of at that point, but sometimes I'm like, I kind of want a nice meal. Like every time I can. - In university I just bought those three kilogram bags of pasta and I would just boil it then salt it and eat it.

- Wait, not even with sauce? - Wouldn't even put tomato sauce. - That's psychotic. - That just took too long. And I just wanted a meal 'cause I wanted the game. I didn't wanna spend money. And you could eat like two months, like a month worth of meals just on like pasta.

for like two bucks. Isn't that insane? - I mean, just because you can doesn't mean you should. - It was just pasta and salt. And occasionally I would get like a, I would like maybe put chicken in it.

- God, your arteries must've been crying. - Yeah, for sure, for sure. I mean, luckily- - It was carbs and sodium. - It was like lunch at the student things. It was like, you could get things that were like very cheap. And so I would eat that a lot. And so I saw that as like me spending money. So I was like, okay, for lunch or dinner, whenever I'm back home, I have to get something that's cheap. So I would just make that. It was bad. - I don't know, like to me, the peak broke uni student food is cup ramen, instant ramen. - That's too expensive.

Like if you get a three kilogram bag of pasta, it lasts way longer and is way cheaper than- - I would literally just buy in bulk. I would have like- - Even in bulk. - I would have like a literal, I would have a literal drawer that was just a ramen drawer. - Yeah, I did that too. - Full of like packed, full of like cup ramen and packed ramen. I don't know, like to me,

- To me that's like still the peak of like broke uni student food. I don't think it was that expensive, was it? I don't know, maybe it was expensive for me. - And some ramen are normally like 30p each one, which is not that much, but obviously a three kilogram bag. - Like Costco? - Well, there was no Costco near me. - Okay, 'cause I would just buy like, I would have like a monthly shipment of like ramen, either from my mom or just like online. - I realize now I'm like, I got to university and,

your parents drive off and I was like, wait, where do I buy food from? Like, cause the nearest supermarket was like 20 minutes away from the car. And I'm like, I don't have a car. - When I was back at home, food just spawned in the fridge. - I was like, holy fuck, how do I go to the store to buy this stuff? And I'm just kind of like, be like whenever anyone went to the supermarket who had a car, like, hey, can I join you? - Yeah. - And luckily one of our friends did have it. So I occasionally went with them. Or you would have to do, but again, I don't know what they used to do before.

when we started university at the Tesco delivery thing, like supermarkets, I don't know, they're just in Australia. You can order online and they'll deliver it to your house. - Like from a supermarket? - Yeah. - No, we definitely didn't know that. - Oh yeah, they'll deliver it to you. So I did Tesco Express or Direct, whatever it was, like a million times. And the dude would just turn up and he would deliver all your stuff to you. - Oh, that's handy. - Which is great. But you had to pay like a small fee. It wasn't that much for a unit, but it was great. And you could order like 500 frozen pizzas.

which I then upgraded to. - Upgraded. - Well, you know, you really like- - I think anything's an upgrade from fucking pasta and salt. - There was only so many times I could do it before I started to really get like struggling. - It's like, God, I want flavor. - And then I realized that like oven pizzas are like one pound each for one and it's a whole meal. So it's like, okay, well, I just started eating oven pizza every day.

- I think I had, I think it was stints where I would eat oven pizza like 20, 30 times a month. - How much weight did you gain from that? - A lot. - Yeah, I bet. - I ate a lot of them. - Fucking hell. - That's where I started getting chubby in university, I didn't realize. 'Cause I just ate Monster Energy drinks and,

If Ben and Jerry's was on sale occasionally, you know, I might cop one. - Splurge. - I might get one, you know? - Was that your biggest not knowing how to adult moment in university? - Oh, for sure. When I realized like, fuck, what the fuck do I eat? And I realized I was- - Yeah, I realized I didn't know how to feed myself.

- And I came to the conclusion that I was fundamentally too lazy and I would never enjoy cooking. So what I would do is, is that like occasionally we would all take it in turns cooking things. So I kind of, we did that occasionally where we were taking it in turns cooking. That rarely happened. - I wish we had,

because I had heard of some like households that are like, "Yeah, I cook on this day and everyone feeds everyone." And I'm like, I think I purposely avoided that kind of household 'cause I would not know what to cook. I'd be like, "I can't feed myself. How do I feed several sentient human beings?" - I'm just imagining like if it's Connor's turn to like cook, he's like, "Bring out the pasta and salt."

- I got a banger for you boys. Trust me, you'll learn to love it. - It's good one, it's good one. - Yeah, yeah. Because now I see a lot of TikToks and a lot of shorts being like, if you need to, if it's like 11:00 PM and you don't know what to cook, here's the perfect recipe for you. - I think I know the guy you're talking about. - Yeah, yeah, you know what? I look at that, I'm like,

"Man, I wish I ate this well as a broke uni student." - Holy fucking shit. - I look at that today and I'm like, "That's a great fucking idea. I might do the same." - Getting all those spices was super expensive. - Yeah, hell yeah. - It was. - It was not like seasonings and stuff were very expensive. - Yeah. - Flavor was expensive. - Yeah, like getting certain things, it'd be like, "All right, well if you want to, you wanted like, I don't know,

basil leaves, right? - Yeah. - That's cool and all, and that's great, and it would help, but they cost nearly the same amount as an oven pizza, just for that. And so it was kind of like, well, what the fuck am I, obviously I'm gonna get the oven pizza. And then you realize, oh shit, this is why everyone's unhealthy in this country.

'Cause it's like the oven pizza, I just stuck it in for 20 minutes and boom, I have a delicious meal. I still love oven pizza. That shit is fire. Not in Japan, it's terrible. They don't really have it. The ones they do have, terrible. But we had some pretty good ones and I loved it. - Yeah, we have good ones in the UK. - And then I got to clean up when I'm cooking. I just chuck it in the oven, no tray. I just put it in there. - Did you ever attempt to eat healthy in university? - No, not even remotely. - I don't think there's a single uni student who attempts to. - Not even remotely.

- Unless they're rich. - So by healthy, I don't mean like, you know, actually salads or whatever, but like at least trying to keep a balanced diet, not pizza every day. - No, no. I had a couscous stint. I ate couscous for like- - A couscous stint? - For like six months, I ate couscous. - Couscous and salt. - No, 'cause you could buy instant couscous. It would be in a packet, right? And it was pretty delicious and it was relatively healthy. - How is that any different to instant ramen? - 'Cause it was way cheaper.

- Yeah, because it's just a smaller noodle. - Yeah, you could just pour a bunch in a bowl and it was like a nice snack. So sometimes I would just pour like four in a bowl. It'd cost like a pound and I would just eat that. And you pour in a bowl, pour boiling water in and boom, you got instant couscous, it's pretty bomb. It was like, what's that chef's name? The famous one in the UK who did the "Yeah, boy" meme.

- Ainsley, Harrier? - Ainsley. - Ainsley. - That guy, he had his own couscous brand and it would always go on sale. So I used to just buy tons of it. I had cupboards full of this. - Okay, okay. Also, I'm gonna say this, you know,

- A lot of people will clown on Uncle Ben's. - Bro, I love Uncle Ben's rice. - I think Uncle Ben's is the fucking goat, man. - The golden rice? - Okay, yeah. - Yeah, the golden rice is so good. - I'm just saying, as an Asian, sometimes I can't be bothered to cook my rice, okay? Sometimes I just wanna put that shit in the microwave, okay? Sometimes I would make some rice and then I'd realize I didn't finish the rice and I'd left it out for too long, I'd be like, fuck.

Like do I wait 40 to 50 minutes to like make another batch of rice or do I just put in a pack of Uncle Ben's? - Sometimes you just want rice right now. - Yeah, exactly. - I think if I had a rice cooker, I didn't even know they existed. If I knew they existed and I had one, I would eat way more rice stuff. 'Cause I cooked like rice the white way, like in a saucepan. And then I would strain it with, once I cooked the rice,

- I was taught to strain it with boiling water. So I would strain it with boiling water. - Stop, it hurts. - It's fucking awful. And it tastes like shit. I didn't know why. - 'Cause you're literally washing away all the flavor. - Yeah, and I didn't know that 'cause I hadn't been taught anything else. - Someone send this clip to Uncle Rogers right now. - But that's the thing, it's lack of education.

- We didn't know how to cook rice. - Lack of education. - We didn't know how to cook rice. I was never taught any other way. - Yeah, of course. - And so that's, you know, I ate it like that. And sometimes I would make the, you'd make chicken curry 'cause you could buy those. There's so many of them in the UK 'cause we're obsessed with it. You could easily buy these like one pound pots of,

of chicken curry that you just literally just heat up and then you have curry. They were pretty good. It wasn't great, but as a uni student, it was great if you wanted some curry. - Yeah, for sure. All right, important question. Rice or bread? - In terms of what? - In terms of like general consumption. - In terms of you have to pick one, the other one disappears from the world and you can only have rice or bread for the rest of your life with any meal.

- Which carbs you pick? - I'm, you know, and that's not 'cause I'm white.

- I think there's substitutes for rice that exist. - Ooh, okay. - And also, I don't always need rice. I'll be sad. I'll be sad that fried rice is gone. - No, no, no. - I'll be sad. - You know, you don't always need bread, but I could always do with it. I could always do with some rice, man. - Are you telling me? That means some of the most goaded foods on earth are gone.

and burgers and hot dogs. - I don't know if we have onigiri for a reason, right? - No, no. - Japanese McDonald's has a rice burger. - The Japanese have figured it out. - This is like asking you to go to the Konbini, right? 'Cause they have the sandwiches right next to the onigiri. Which one do you go for, right? I'm a sandwich guy. But I do sometimes get onigiri. - Oh my God, this is the one time I regret being half Asian.

'cause I can't decide. - Full white, full Asian, I'm rice all the way. I could not give up rice with like half the meals I cook with. - First of all, Konbini sandwiches and onigiris, let's just talk about that for a second. - Okay, I agree, sandwiches better than onigiri.

- Onigiri is like a gamble, I feel. Like the filling quality you get is so 50/50. And if you get no filling in it, I feel so bad that I just ate a block of rice. I'm like, shit, that didn't taste good. And with like sandwiches, always, always good. You always get the same level. - Yeah, I mean, like you'd be giving up some like goaded things like, you know, pizza, that would be like- - Pizza's gone. Are you telling me that you're willing to get rid of pizza? I didn't even think about that. - You know what?

- I would, because to me rice is the perfect just neutral thing. It's just give me any meat or any kind of meal and like you need some kind of neutral filling with that. Rice just plays that role perfectly. - Is wheat gone? Is this like everything wheat based gone?

- Is beer gone? - No, no, no, no. Just specifically bread. - I've come to my decision. I've thought about it long and hard. I love both bread and rice, but I'm gonna have to side with bread on this one. - Oh! - I'm gonna have to side with bread. - His German side won there. - My German side has won. Just because I'm thinking about the sheer variety of breads as opposed to the sheer variety of rice and rice,

as much as I love it, a lot of times can be replaced with bread in a lot of meals. - Not a lot of Asian things. - Yeah, not a lot of Asian things for sure. - I'm thinking of it 'cause I- - Not a lot of Asian things, but in the case with like a carb companion, a lot of things can be replaced with bread. - Like how are you gonna eat soup without bread now? That's gone. - You can eat it with rice.

- Yeah, actually you can. - I mean you can, but- - You shouldn't. - No, you can. Actually we do that in Thailand actually. It depends on the, you can eat, you can, you can. I'm telling you, I'm telling you, you can. - You can stick your dick in the fridge, doesn't mean you should. I can, but I'm not going to. - There is nothing wrong actually, depending on the soup, some soup goes so well with rice.

- Okay, look, I get it. - I actually, yeah. Yeah, totally, like I cannot imagine eating Tom Yum. - Tom Yum and like soup curry, I understand, right? Like rice is probably the better companion. But in the wider world of soups, bread is the goat. - I'm not saying rice is better than bread. I'm just saying, you know, it's, rice is,

in a starving world, in a starving world, okay? In a world where aliens have invaded earth and you know, gum to your head, rice or bread, which one goes? I would be like- - I'm keeping the bread. - I would be like, oh, I think I would keep the rice. - Isn't like katsu's gone too, 'cause that's breading, right? And like fried chicken, that's bread technically, there's a bit of bread in. - That's true. - I mean, that's true. - I honestly think now- - That's like flour. - Now that I'm thinking about it,

- I think that curry, like Japanese curry would go bomb with bread. - I feel like it's- - Oh yeah. - I feel like we can, Coco Curry should get rid of the rice. Let's just bread, a side of bread. Scoop it up with, that sounds so good. - I mean, they do the cauliflower rice, which actually goes quite hard. - Exactly, yo, exactly. We don't need rice. We have cauliflower. Cauliflower rice is so good.

- You know, actually in America, do you remember when I ordered that thing? I ordered cauliflower chicken. - Yeah, yeah, yeah. - I didn't know what it was. And it looked like exactly like a piece of fried chicken on the outside. Do you remember this? - With the buffalo sauce on it. - No, I don't. - No, no, it was like a dry rub. It was weird. And you bite into this piece that looks exactly like a thick piece of fried chicken. And it was just a piece of cauliflower. It's crazy.

- I'm sorry, it just blew my mind. - Dude, cauliflower is good. - So good. - We have a bad image of cauliflower 'cause it seems to be that one thing we always hated as a kid. - No, I loved it as a kid. - You loved it as a kid? - Yeah, in the UK you always had cauliflower with a creamy cheese sauce thing and it was always really good. - Oh, that sounds good. - My parents wouldn't serve it to me though. I think they thought it was too bad for me. But my friend's house did.

- Yeah, I never got that. I just got like the normal boiled cauliflower. - Yeah, me too. I like that too. - You like that as well? - I like- - Actually, you just love every vegetable. - I love veg, man. Veg is so good. Carrots is meh, but every other veg is pretty good. - All right, all right. Noodles or pasta? - What am I keeping? - Yeah, what are you keeping? - Pasta.

- Like a million times. - Isn't that way? Oh no, there's a lot of noodle variations. - There isn't a lot of noodle variations. - I feel like we've had this date. I'm not getting deja vu. We had this discussion. I feel like I was about to say this way more. - Maybe. - We might have. - I was about to say there's way more noodles of pasta, way more variation of pasta, but then I think you rebuttaled, no, there was way more variations of noodles. - I think it might've been one of our like first episodes where we talked about like food.

- What if we're literally reliving in time and this is like so weird. - I was gonna clip it too. - I think we might've had a similar conversation off camera. I don't think we've had it on camera. I feel like if it is, it would be a bigger meme probably. I feel like I would have seen some memes on the subreddit about this. - But pasta for sure. - Pasta? - Yeah, I'm keeping pasta. - 100%. No question. - I agree. I agree. - I got it.

- I gotta betray my Asian brethren, I'm sorry. I'm sorry guys, I love my noodles, man. It would feel so bad losing out on all of the noodles, all of the ramen, all the Thai noodles, Chinese noodles. - Just use spaghetti. - Just kidding. - But honestly, Italians, I gotta fucking give it to you guys. You guys made something goaded, man. I could not give up pasta. - It's my favorite carb.

- It is, it is. - Hands down. - Hands down pasta, pasta goaded carb. - Yeah. - God, I love pasta, man.

I've never met a single person who doesn't like pasta. - Yeah, I know, everybody loves it. - Yeah, it's like Italian cuisine, right? What's the most widely seen cuisine you've seen around the world? 'Cause I think to me, it's maybe Italian. - Yeah, it's Italian. - It's the easiest one to get. No matter where I go in the world, sometimes you find a hard time finding like Mexican restaurants. Then you go to America, no problem. Sometimes you have a hard time maybe finding French food or,

you know, Thai food, you know. But like, I've never had a hard time finding an Italian restaurant. - Yeah. - And like, even, you know, a lot of people I think are gonna say like Chinese food, but I feel like China- - There's Chinese food and then there's Chinese food. - I don't, okay, here's the thing. I don't think Chinese food exists.

- That's such a good out of context. - Yeah, yeah. - I don't think it's real. - In the sense where I don't think Chinese food can be branded as in one under one umbrella, right? - Right. - Do you know what I'm saying? - Yeah, yeah, yeah. - Out of context Chinese food isn't real. - No, no, because like different parts of China have different like styles of cuisines. - Yeah, yeah, yeah. - It's like the variation. - It's like Italy though as well. - Yeah.

- Like the variation in Chinese food is so fucking like large that if I go to a place and it's just like, oh, this is a Chinese food restaurant. I'm just like, that's sus. - What part? - What does that mean? What does that mean? Is it Cantonese cuisine? Is it, you know, Szechuan? China has like so many different styles of cuisine that I would like to know which,

which part of China, which cuisine am I eating? Rather than if it's just Chinese food, and I think this comes from growing up in the UK. When it's Chinese food in the UK, it's awful. A lot of Chinese food in the UK is awful because it's just your baseline here is Westernized Chinese food as opposed to actual Chinese cuisine. And so finding like actual specialized Chinese cuisine

is a lot harder than finding good Italian food in my opinion. - Yeah, I wanna say that next time I go to a Panda Express, I'm like, "Oh, what part of China is this from?" - Yeah, yeah. - Is this Sichuan or? - The Chinese street in America is like belly Chinese street. - Yeah, I remember having this argument with a mate in England

And I was like, yeah, sweet and sour chicken, that's not real Chinese food. You go to China and you try and find sweet and sour chicken, you're not gonna be able to find that. And he's like, no, no, no, no, no. It's everywhere. It's everywhere. I swear to God, it's my favorite Chinese food. And I'm always saying, that's kind of like saying orange chicken. - Yeah, it's like, what do you mean I can't get orange chicken in China? - It's Chinese food. - Yeah, yeah.

But yeah, to me, Italian, Italians are goaded with their food. And it's also, I think one of the easiest cuisine to find worldwide. I've not been to a country so far where I've had a hard time finding Italian, a good Italian restaurant kind of like anywhere. - That's true. - Yeah, you got it Italians. Congratulations on the- - The goats. - Congratulations on the pasta. - You got that dog. - Yeah. What do you guys think about French food?

- Not as good as Italian. - I mean, it's all right. - Okay, here's the thing. French have the image of being like, you know, oh, we have like the best food, you know? This is where all of the culinary giants are. - You could've just stopped at we have the best blank. - I think French food, I used to go to France every year for like fucking forever. For like three weeks at a time. And like French food in France was amazing.

and it was so good, like some of the best in the world. But the moment you leave France to get actually good French food, you have to pay out the ass. - Oh yeah. - Whereas I feel like Italian kind of travels a little better. You can get dishes for more reasonable prices. - I feel like you need to pay out the ass while you're in Paris as well, to be fair. - Yeah, I mean, outside of Paris is great. It's a lot more affordable to get really good quality stuff in France. But yeah, it doesn't export well. I think that's the problem is that

Italian kind of like food. It's very easy to kind of make it in more palatable to that whatever culture or whatever country you're in for an affordable price. - It's more customizable. - Yeah, yeah. And I just think, yeah, France is the problem where to get pretty good French food abroad, you have to spend a shit ton of money. - Yeah. - A lot of the time. - That's true. - A lot of the time, not all the time, a lot of the time. So that's why it feels like kind of like more bougie,

- Yeah. - Italian sometimes you're like, "Eh, fuck it, no, I'll go Italian." - Well, it's like French always has, I think everything French has this image that is bougie. - Yeah. - French, the language sounds bougie a lot of the times. But yeah, like I think one thing I noticed because

I've said before that I spent a lot of money, a lot of my disposable income trying out different restaurants 'cause that's like, I guess my favorite thing to spend money on nowadays. Like going, one thing that always bothers me about going to let's say fancy restaurants, right? You know, higher tier in restaurants is that,

Everyone's kind of agreed, right? It's, you know, they taste really good. Is it worth the price? A lot of times, no, it's not worth the price. A lot of times you go for the experience, you go for this kind of like rare ingredient that you can't get anywhere else. It's kind of like you're paying for like the rarity as opposed to the how good it tastes a lot of times. But one thing that always bothers me is a lot of like high-class restaurants I go to, it tastes...

It doesn't taste the same, but they never go too far of this like taste profile. Nothing ever tastes too strong. There's always like a subtle hint of something. And sometimes I just want to, maybe this is the Southeast Asian in me talking. I wanna see what happens if there is a fine dining or a high-class restaurant that just commutes

to having a really spicy food of really, really strong taste. 'Cause obviously that's not gonna appeal to anyone or everyone. But that's one thing I would like to see. - I feel though those exist, especially in Japan in like the mom and pop shops, right? Where it's like, they're not,

to not pertain to the- - What do you mean by mom and pop shops? - You know, like the locally owned places that have been around for like several generations, that maybe specialize in a particular dish or a particular style of dish because they're not afraid of alienating the general consensus. Like they just wanna, they were like, we have this one thing and this is our gimmick. And if you fuck with it, then you can come back at any time.

But if you don't, then go somewhere else. They don't care about becoming like this big thing or having this large name in the restaurant world, if you will. So it's like, 'cause like some of the weirdest shit I've ever eaten and I've eaten a lot of weird shit in my life has always been in the most like dingy local places that just don't really give a fuck. They're like, "Yeah, this is our weird thing. You like it? Cool, thanks." - I'm curious about you, Joey.

- When have you had like a shokugeki moment? You know, the fucking, you take a taste. - I mean the Korean fried chicken I almost had. - Oh really? Okay, okay. - And also the first time I went to that skimming place I took you guys to. - Yeah, that was, Sukumen, like there are a few dishes that have made me had the shokugeki moment. Sukumen is like one of those places. There's a lot of Thai dishes I remember as a child that still sticks with me to this day.

- First time lasagna man, of course. My first lasagna, I still remember that shit, man. It wasn't even like a great lasagna, but I'm just like, holy shit. - True, true. - Holy shit, how can you improve pasta above lasagna? - It is good, it is good. - What about you Connor? - Just most foods. - He has one every day, I believe. - That's true, that's true. - I think as long as it's not pasta and salt, I'm a nut.

- Anything's a no. He's experienced the bottom of the barrel, so anything else is above it. - I'm very easy to please with food. I just want something that makes me full and tastes good and I'm happy. - I feel that's why we're such shit chefs. - Yeah. - Probably. - Because if we actually cared about food- - That's why I don't want to. I don't wanna get a better palate. I fucking love what I eat right now. - Yeah, that's true. - I think, I don't know, I think,

- Going on a tangent, I've tried like cooking a bit more and obviously I'm biased, but I think I could be a pretty good cook. And I think part of the reason I could be a pretty good cook is because I'm a really picky eater. - Oh yeah. - I want things to taste exactly, I have a way that I want them to taste exactly in my mind. And when I get that, I'm like, holy shit,

- Well, I would argue that's what makes the best chefs, right? Like they actually care about what goes into the food and the small subtleties of what makes a dish great. Like if you didn't give a shit about it, then you'd be like, you end up like Mr. Pasta and salt over here. Where it's just like, if it's edible, it's going in my tummy. - If I had more time, I'd probably cook more because I do enjoy cooking. I do enjoy the final result. There's a lot of things I enjoy in life. - Out of the three of us. - I enjoy the final result.

I don't enjoy the aftermath or some of the process of what happens before that final result. But when you get that final result in, it's really, it's so fucking satisfying. - Yeah, for sure. - I sound like Mei Lin right now. - She's rubbing off on you. - Maybe you've been hanging out with Mei Lin too much. Going back to Thailand. Okay.

I don't know if this is just people that I've had around me, but there's one thing I've realized growing up and talking to more of my Asian friends. And I wanna confirm if this is a thing that's widespread or this is a me thing. - Con is real now. - I got you. Okay. I can ask you this, okay?

- Does every Asian family have the spiciest fucking Asian drama, like the spiciest family drama just hidden away somewhere?

Or is this just something I've just noticed as I've like grown older about the people around my friends and my Asian family? - I don't think it has to do with an Asian family. I think it just has to do with big families. - Right. - Because the more people get involved, the more likely you're gonna run into someone not liking someone. - Yeah. - Right? Because my Asian family is quite small, like comparatively to other Asian families. - Yeah, yeah, yeah.

- As far as I'm concerned, like I don't really know of any like drama that's happened in the family. - Yeah, 'cause I've noticed this 'cause I've, you know, 'cause growing up, right? Growing up, especially, you know, especially in a lot of Southeast Asian families I've seen, you grow up and you,

you grew up with a lot of the same like family values, treasure family, love your family. And like there's a big thing, you know, in Thailand where you call everyone, you know, auntie or uncle or cousin or brother, you know, you call your cousins, brother, sister, and sometimes you call family friends, brother and sister. And then you call your auntie and uncle, auntie and uncle, and then you call your family's friends, auntie and uncle as well, right?

So a lot of the times with how big the families are, you don't actually know who your auntie and uncles are.

Like, you know who your aunties and uncles are. And then there'll be someone who you call auntie and uncle, right? And I've confirmed this with like a few friends. And you grow up, everything's like, everything's great. Everything's, you know, we were a nice, big, happy family. You grow older and then you ask around and you're like, and then there'll be this, like, there'll be,

you'll talk to like one of your uncles and then they'll mention something about a family member about this huge drama that happened before you were born, right? And then you realize, oh, so like,

"This auntie's not my real auntie," or "That auntie's not my real auntie," or something like that. Navi's fucking... I feel like I've just like disrupted a core memory from Navi right now. - That's so bizarre. - That's so Southeast Asia. - I thought, I remember realizing, I remember thinking I had a normal family and then as I grew older, the more like, the more,

I uncovered behind some of the shit that happens like with my, not my immediate family, but like some of my extended family. And then I remember like talking to my friends about this and I was like, I had the conversation with some of my Southeast Asian mates and I was like, yeah, this is weird thing I discovered about my family the other day. And they were like, oh no, that's like five of my aunties. - Oh fuck.

- I feel that such a Southeast Asian problem purely from the fact that you said five of my aunties. I'm like, dog, I don't even have that many on both sides of the family. Let alone one side. - Yeah, I had my one.

- I had one friend who was just like, yeah, I had this auntie that I thought was like my blood related auntie for like a long time. And I found out, no, she's not even like blood related family at all. And then another friend was just like, yeah, so there's this one cousin who I didn't realize was just like a love child, I guess. And just nobody talked about it. - Does every Asian just have trust issues?

I would be like, who do I trust? - Dude, don't look at me, dog. I feel that's very Southeast Asian. Not East Asian. - Maybe that's why I fucking love all the shitty romances I do, man. Maybe it's just in my blood, man. Maybe it's in my blood. - That's why I'm more of an enjoyer of the pure romance shows, right?

- We got no problems in my family. - Yeah, the older I've grown up, the older I realized, oh, like all the cheesy soap operas that I thought were ridiculous, maybe that's like more based on reality than I first thought. - You didn't see the small text that says this is nonfiction. - Yeah, yeah, yeah. 'Cause I realized every time you go, especially like the big family gatherings, like every time I've been to like a family wedding, there's some new piece of information that just gets unearthed. - Oh yeah.

- I don't know, weird tangent. I wanted to confirm if it was a me thing or if there are any other Asians out there that know what I'm talking about, okay? - Our C gang has definitely got your back on that one, dude. - It's bizarre. - Yeah. How big is your like,

- Not very big. - Yeah, not very big. - And even then, like when you do have cousins, you don't really talk to cousins. I never ever talk to my cousins. - Do you not? - Do you text your cousins or anything like that? - Yeah, all the time. - I don't even know half of my family. - I don't think it's a white people thing, but like, it's like, you don't talk to your cousins unless it's like an awkward interaction. - I fucking love my cousins. - I like them, I like them. It's always like in some kind of setting.

- I feel it's definitely a white thing because my white side of the family, I don't even know any of them. - You don't? - I supposedly have about 10 to 15 cousins that all live in Germany and I don't even know what they look like. I don't know their names. I've never met them. - I feel like outside of immediate family, I feel like generally white people don't really care that much unless there's like,

unless they're actually like really good friends with them. I think we put way more importance on like friends than I think anyone outside of- - It's too many degrees of separation. - Yeah, I think outside of immediate family, it's like, nah. - I have this weird thing where if it's like, if their family and you know,

if they're blood related, I feel like we were all instilled with this value that, you know, if they're blood related, they're like a brother to you. They're like a sister to you. I remember like one of the weirdest things that has happened to me is where I actually like discovered long lost family once. So yeah, like I said, both my parents have like a very, very big family and I had an uncle who unfortunately passed away before I was born. So there was this uncle that I just like never knew, right?

- Blood related? - Blood related. - Okay, yes, yes, yes, yes. - We gotta make sure. - Actually, yes, yes, I have to clarify. Yes, 100% blood related. - The 23 million, finally. - They don't have 15 uncles.

- Sometimes we have like secret uncles, who knows? It's fucking Southeast Asian family drama. But yeah, like I had an uncle who I never knew 'cause he passed away before I was born. So my uncle had a kid with someone from Switzerland, right? Never knew this for the longest time, right?

And by sheer coincidence, right? We had a, it was just me and my mom and my dad and we had a family trip to Switzerland. And we were just going for like, you know, we'd never been to Switzerland before. We just wanted to visit. And my dad,

my dad had an old phone number of my uncle, of his brother that had passed away. And he was married to someone who was from Switzerland and he had that phone number. So he was like, you know what? We have lost all contact with my cousin, right? Who died.

who is my dad's, I guess my dad's nephew, right? Hasn't seen him since his brother passed away. Let's try phoning this number and see what happens. And so we phone it and someone picks up. Luckily it's Switzerland, so they speak English as well. And they said, "Oh, sorry, this person doesn't live here." But,

we can give you the number where the previous owner moved to. And so we tried, we tried finding this new number and then we had gotten to like my auntie, you know, my uncles. - Real auntie. - Yeah, well, my uncles,

Is it step odds? How would you classify this? This is getting so confusing now. My uncle's wife, basically. My uncle's wife.

And we'd gotten through to them. And then, you know, my dad had an amazing moment where we got to like, he got to reconnect with his nephew who he had not seen for literal decades. And who like my cousin didn't even like, I think that was the first time he'd spoken to him because he was like, he was that young when my uncle passed away. And so I had this weird like moment where,

where my dad's like, "So we're gonna meet your cousin now. "You've never met your cousin." - Jesus. - "But your family." But like instantly, like it was a great moment where

I'd seen him for the first time and I got to meet him and I could instantly tell, oh, he's blood related. Oh, cause he looked very, very, he had like a lot of similar features to my dad. And it was just this moment where I had just found long lost family. And I'm like- - That's awesome. - Yeah, I'm like, this is so fucking surreal. I didn't know how to like process this. I literally didn't know how to process this.

But we just like, after just one conversation, I'm like, oh, okay, you're family. And instantly like after one conversation, I could tell there was like, at that time he barely spoke English, right? Because he was more speaking French and German at the time. He barely spoke English, but even though I was like a teenager back then, even though we could only communicate through like very, very simple sentences, I could feel like a bond there and like,

after meeting him and after discovering that I had a long lost cousin, you know, every time, you know, every time he actually started learning more English as well. And we kind of connected better. And it was like a long lost family bond. And I'm like, that's the good part of,

That's the good part of family values, not the spicy Asian drama. - I'm scared to find anyone on my family tree that I know exists. There's probably a reason why they disappeared. - It's like a double-edged sword, right? That's like the good part where you meet someone, even if you've never seen them before in your life, there's a family value that's instilled in you that no matter what, if do you feel like a blood relay, if they're family, you treat them like family no matter what.

- Well, there's some, a lot of Asian families I feel take advantage of that as well. There's always, I know- - It's like, can I borrow money? You're family, right? - And I remember like, there's,

I remember the first time I watched "Summer Wars", right? And the one thing- - Contagion is this? - No, okay, it is a tangent. - No, I know which direction you're going. - But like, because "Summer Wars"- - I haven't seen "Summer Wars". - Oh, you haven't seen "Summer Wars". - That's why I'm like, what? - Okay, "Summer Wars", there's like two parts of "Summer Wars". There's one part that's basically like, did you want the movie? But then there's this other part, which is basically showcasing this,

big Japanese family who come together for a family reunion one last time. - There's like 50 of them. - Yeah, there's like 50 of them. And there's a storyline about like the one black sheep of the family that nobody talks about. And I swear to God, every one of my Southeast Asian like brethrens, there is, I don't know why there is- - You just like me for real. - There is always that one black sheep of the family that nobody talks about, but-

Everyone knows about, except if you're a kid, you're like, who is this? Who is this man? And we're like, it is he who shall not be named. - He's like the Voldemort of the family. - Yeah, he's like the Voldemort of the family. But yeah, that's- - I do agree though with Connor in the sense that like, I feel in a lot of like Western families, it's not so much about like,

cousins that you form like a really close, like almost family bond, but more like friends, right? Because in Japan, I feel the equivalent of that is childhood friends.

- Okay, okay. - Osana Najimi's like, firsthand I can tell you, when you are childhood friends with someone, when you have grown up with someone ever since before you could even have sentient thoughts, it's just, you have that connection. Even if it's like five, 10 years since you met them, the moment you get back together into a conversation, you're like, nothing's changed. You could share with them anything that you want.

- It's so weird though, because it's like, I could probably do that with, you know, the cousins that I live, that live in Germany that I'm unaware of, but it's like,

it feels more distant than someone who has been there my entire life, right? Even if they're not blood related. So it's very- - I'm not in contact with any of my childhood friends. - I have more childhood friends than I do cousins. - Those are your brothers and sisters, man. - That is my family, dude. - I message occasionally. I always hit them up when I go back. I really didn't watch "Summer Wars" 'cause I thought it was gonna be about fighting.

I mean, it is in a sense. - It has fighting in it. - I thought it was gonna be wars. That was no. - Yeah. - So that's why I didn't watch it.

- It's like a digital war. - Yeah, yeah, yeah. - I'm not interested in all that. - Just think of it's Digimon the movie reskin. That's all it is. - I don't wanna watch Digimon. - But I liked that. - It's a good movie. - The thing I loved about "Summer Wars" was the family aspect. 'Cause that's the part that I related with. Because yeah, I had a very similar kind of like, I guess, family structure where like my grandmother was like,

was like probably like my biggest influence in life because she was like the family leader and she like was the linchpin that kept everyone together. - Literally some. - Holy shit, I'm fucking tearing up. - Aw. - Holy shit, like yeah, I fucking love my grandma and like she,

Grandma, if you're watching from heaven, I miss you. I miss you grandma. But yeah, that's kind of like a big reason why like I remember "Summer Wars" was 'cause like I had a very, very similar family structure to that, including all of the drama that went with that. And I realized that now I'm that uncle who has the weird job 'cause every uncle has the weird job. I'm that uncle who has the weird job now. - What is uncle?

- Don't worry about it. - Don't worry about it. - Don't look it up. - I have an uncle that's a YouTuber? What's this? - That's a job? - They never taught me that in school. - Anyway, that was this episode of Trash Taste. - Hey, look at the patrons though. - So beautiful. - They're like family. - You guys are family. - Hell yeah.

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