The Most Drunk We've Been On Trash Taste | Trash Taste #169
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- Welcome to another episode of Trash Taste.

- I'm gonna drink some wine today. Garth brought two bottles. - Yay! - Two bottles. - If I can open the bloody thing. - I'm gonna drink my Elixir before we start. - You gonna drink some UConn? - I'm gonna drink my UConn Super. - Super UConn. - It's been a while since we drunk on the podcast, just chilled out with some drinks together. - It's a late night episode too. - So I'm like, hey, let's go. - Pouring myself first 'cause wow. - That's so much UConn. - It's great. - Excuse me. - You know, okay, I don't know if this is just the me thing, but I really like- - I like wine.

- I really liked the taste of Vukon. - I like the taste of Vukon too. - I really, really like it. - What? - Yeah, yeah. - That's your wine glass? - Yeah, he's gone the divorce mom route. - You just need a cardigan now. - And that'll be perfect. Oh, you spilled some. - Oh God. - I don't know, I don't think I did. - Oh God. - I like how we have tissues. - Look at this, I like this is just his glass. Where's my her? - No her gone. - Oh, cheers boys. - Cheers. - To a hopefully not to,

- I think we're getting that drunk. - I can't get drunk off two bottles of wine. - We have three bottles actually. - You got three? - Yeah, we had like, so I bought two wines from my collection because I just have my collection. - Here's the problem, every time,

- We haven't done this for a while, but every time we've invited people over, people would just bring over bottles of wine and they bring over bottles of wine faster than I can drink it. So I've just been like accumulating. - How often are you drinking wine at home though? Like you and Sydney? - Not too often. Whenever we have a day and we go out and we have a nice meal, like let's share a bottle when we get home. And then, so we don't drink too often. Maybe we might- - You go home after the meal? - Yeah. - I always stay out.

- It depends. - I'm like, let's go for more drinks. - Depends on the vibe. Sometimes I like how we like having a nice meal and then just chilling out and just watching a movie or something like that and just having like a nice in date. - This is not my friends of houses that you wanna go, except for your house. But I wanna go out and drink. My living rooms are a mess. It looks like a crane game shrine.

- I mean, basically it is. - Probably because it is. - Yeah, there's a set of Roman armor in my living room. - What? - Yeah, don't worry about it. - Okay. I'm not gonna ask what you get up to on your weekends. - Well, you know, I lop, okay? I lop as the Romans. - By yourself in the living room. - By myself in the living room. And there's a treadmill. This is actually, this is too much. - Yeah. I kind of like, I'm feeling the drawbacks of living on the ground floor in a house now.

- Holy fucking shit. I've just been having to deal with like cockroaches recently. Do you know what I'm like starting to think? - That you have to clean your house? - No, no, no, no. My house is actually like genuinely pretty clean because-

We found out where they're coming from and that's just like the drains because it's summer right now. And every time we see a cockroach, it's basically like, they're like tiny, tiny cockroaches. They're not like the giga chad cockroach you get in like Australia or in Thailand. So I'm like before, if I heard cockroach, I'd be like fucking terrified. But now I see the one, the tiny ones in Japan, I'm like.

- You little baby. - Before it was a "Dark Souls" boss fight and now it's like a tutorial stage. - Now it's just like a slight annoyance because I see them like sometimes in the bathroom when I'm just going and I'm like, for fuck's sake, stop crawling out of the drains, please. - Is it just me or do I feel like, do you feel more

I guess scared or in danger when a cockroach appears in like somewhere like a bathroom drain or like say when you're showering, for example, and it appears in the bathroom as opposed to anywhere else. I don't know why I feel more vulnerable because I'm naked. - No, I like it more. - I like it more. - 'Cause I can send them back to where the fuck they came from. - I like it more because one, I don't have to worry about making a mess 'cause I can just clean that fucker up right away. - Yeah, it's like if you're gonna murder someone, you do it in the bathroom.

- The tiles are so easily clean. - Yeah, sure. - Number two. - Is this from experience? - No, I imagine that killing someone, then if you killed them and then there was carpet everywhere, you'd be like, "Oh, for fuck sake." - Luckily my house doesn't have carpets. - Yeah, but most new houses don't. - Everywhere's clean. - Yeah, number two, I like the fact that it's in the bathroom 'cause I know where it came from.

If it was in the kitchen or the living room, I'm like, how the fuck did you get in? Where the fuck, do you have friends? Do you have friends? Do you have friends? - Where the chill in the wine cellar gone? - Yeah, oh God. - This Shiraz is marvelous gone. I'm glad I stumbled in here and drank some of it. - What I've realized every time I see like, this has only happened twice by the way this year.

- Well, like what I've realized is that if I see one, I cannot let that fucker out of my sight. I don't know why, but this is- - You can't fucking let it run off. - Okay, so like you need something to kill it with. I'm not metal enough to like fucking use my hand or whatever just yet. I'm not that Australian right now. - I'll try and get a tissue. - I'll go for the foot though. - Yeah, but the first time this happened- - I don't want to touch with my hands, but I'll crush it with my feet.

- But then it'll be on your socks. - Yeah, it'll be on your socks. - Yeah, but I'm washing them anyway. - Well, same thing with your hand, I'll wash it anyway. - Yeah, I guess so. I mean, I wouldn't be against crushing it with my hands. - Right. - Yeah, it depends what I have. Well, 'cause I got really annoyed one time, I bought that cockroach killer that's everywhere in Japan. - It doesn't work. - And in that fridge, yeah, this fucker just tanked it. I felt like he was like Kirito in that one scene where he's getting slashed.

I just felt like he was regening quicker than I was. - He's the beater of cockroaches, bro. - I was doing damage over time attacks and he was just like, "My regen is greater. "You are nothing to me." But then if I went like, he'd be dead. And so I was, you know, I think seeing that site where he just tanked, he didn't even move. That's what pissed me off. He didn't even like care to try and dodge it.

Like he was so impervious to it that he was like, "And what? What are you going to do?" - What's next? Is that all? - So I was like, "Well, fuck it, I'll slap him." So I tried to stomp on him, but I missed. They're fucking fast fuckers, aren't they? - Yeah, they are fast. - Little antennas tell them when the foot's coming. I always wondered, did they see life in slow-mo?

- They must do it. - They must, right? - Yeah. - Or like instincts like anime characters where you like teleport behind like, I could sense your presence. - Teleports behind you, nothing personal. - I feel like they know when you're looking at them as well because this has happened like every time I've seen one, I've looked at it, I'm like, oh, there's a cockroach that has approached my field of view and I stare at it. I'm like, you're not going anywhere.

You're not going anywhere. And it's like totally still. - It turns to a DBZ file. - Yeah, yeah. And I'm like, okay, I know the tissue's there. I'm gonna look away for a second and you're still gonna be there.

- It's gone. - Like it just like, they're like the weeping angels. - Yeah, yeah, there's a fucking weeping angel eye contact. - You cannot like- - Are they similar like the antennas? 'Cause in flies, right? I don't know how flies can do it. I forgot how they can do it, but they can sense the difference in air pressure. So when something's approaching the air pressure, obviously you're so small that you can feel the air pressure. So I imagine maybe it's something like that. I don't know. - Must be. - What's up? Okay, question. Would you,

- Would you get all of the benefits of antennas, but you had to be a normal person with antennas. You could literally get all the benefits of having antennas, but you just have antennas. - What's the benefits of antennas? - Yeah, what are the benefits? - Sensing the presence of someone coming. - Insane, yeah, air pressure differentials. - I think that would just fuck me up. - Yeah, but you'd adjust, 'cause you'd be born with it. You wouldn't just have it. - But I'd also just be like fucked when I want a plane.

Like I'd get on and just be like, oh, like I already suffer with the ear popping and then I have to deal with the antenna just be like, oh. - I'm sure if a cockroach got on the plane, it'd survive. It'd be all right. - Well, yeah. - Those things will survive anything. - So the point is, would you, okay, what would you be willing, what deformity would you be willing to accept

- Of like a, would you take wings in Hoppy? - No, no, 'cause if you think about it, wings in human society would suck to have. - Yeah, it would. Also like how- - 'Cause you gotta fit in. I'm sure you can fly, but you don't have to be fucking happy. - You've gotta fit in, but it's not worth flying. You could just fucking build a device to fly better than- - You still wouldn't, when I say fly, you're not suddenly impervious to like pressure differentials of being up at like 10,000 feet. So you wouldn't be able to, it'd be like,

- A few hundred meters in the sky. - Yeah, exactly. I feel like flying such a fucking overpowered, no, no, over like- - Overvalued. - Overvalued. - I've become obsessed with the idea of having superpowers with severe drawbacks.

So you can have something, but you get fucked. - Why? - I don't know, I think it's fun. It's fun hypotheticals. - So you get wings, but you also have gonorrhea. Well, you take it. - Like you're the massive, you're the biggest dick ever, but you can't have sex. - Yeah, you just can't get wrecked. - No, just having the biggest dick ever would be its own nerve because no girl would want to have sex with you. - Yeah, that's true. That's a good point. Okay, what about- - This is just like a- - You were able to...

- You were able to photosynthesize, but you would have a lingering sense of hunger, but you weren't allowed to eat. - Why would I want to be able to photosynthesize? - Never have to pay for food. - I fucking love food. - You have to pay for it. - Yeah, but it's worth it. - Yeah, but that's worth it. - You like the burden of paying for food? - If I would photosynthesize, then I would get fat on sunlight and I don't wanna do that. I get fat on normal food. - You can't get fat, you can't get fat.

- You know what I mean? - He's just like this hugely obese dude. He's just like, "God, I'm so hungry. I'm so hungry, dude." - Yeah, just like you go on like a beach holiday for one week and you're like, "Fucking hell, I didn't even fucking drink any cocktails, Jesus." - You can get invisible, but you have to get blackout drunk.

- This is sounding like the shitter spin off to "Darker Than Black" I've ever seen. Did you ever watch "Darker Than Black"? - I loved it, November 11th. - Yeah, yeah, yeah, November 11th. - The cigarette is containing nitroglycerin. - Yeah, sure, all right, Troy, back to it. Just fuck me already.

- I mean, none of these powers I actually want. I don't want to be invisible. - All right, tell me a power you want, I'll tell you a drawback. - Okay. I mean, we've talked about teleportation before. - You can teleport. - So you can teleport but you have no legs. - But you shit yourself every time. - I actually was gonna do something like that. But honestly, I think you could easily plan around that. That's not enough of a drawback. You can teleport, but every time you teleport, someone...

Someone you've met in your life dies. So you could be, you're risking like, how many people have you met in your life?

- Are we kind of fucking Facebook friends? - Yeah, literally like if you have met would be like you've exchanged words with someone. Could be someone you bumped into, sorry on the subway. Anyone you've encountered. - See, if that is the drawback, then once I am aware of that drawback, I would just go out into public and start talking to everyone. - Yeah, you would. Yeah, but it would be like, you'd still have that lingering chance that could be a close friend. And if you teleported.

- Would you do it? Would you take it? - No. - No, you don't think you would? - No. I mean, despite the ethical choice of killing a human life every time you use a power. - You wouldn't know. They wouldn't know. You'd never be found guilty. Obviously that doesn't help the ethical part. But there's no- - What the fuck am I fucking like? Mind-gaming? - You would never be held accountable for this. - I mean, are we ignoring the fact that you would be killing someone every time? - You could also die too. - Yeah. Why?

Can you meet yourself? - Yeah, you're part of the list. - Can you don't go down? - We gotta have an SSR in there. - I haven't had enough wine to talk about. - Okay, so I think that's a cool power. 'Cause then you gotta seriously- - Would you take it? - 100%. - Really? - Yeah. - Damn, sociopath. - I mean- - No, I would use it for emergencies. Like let's say- - Oh yeah, no, of course. - Something crazy happened, you're like- - No, you say that, but you're probably gonna get to the point where you're like, fuck, I need to go to the company.

- I said, "I said emergency." - Sorry, mom. - I said, "I said emergency." It's like it's still war and someone just died. - Yeah. - Oh, my flight got canceled? It's an emergency. - You don't understand. I really needed to go to the toilet. I'm sorry. - It would start off as like a pure life or death situation. And then in about like,

- I was gonna say five years, but I think more accurately like five months for you. It would get to the point where you'll go into the toilet using teleportation. - You're on stream and you're like, "Hold up guys, I gotta be back." - Joey, give me a power. I'll give you a drawback. - Well, what power do you want? - Oh, I like teleportation, but I wanna hear your power. I'll make a drawback. - My power? - Give it to me, tell me what power you want. - Reading minds, maybe? - Reading minds. - I wouldn't want that power. - Reading minds, but every time you read a mind,

Okay, I was thinking like some way of having a drawback where you get fucked up by keep reading minds. - Yeah. - Like it keeps fucking with your head. - What about the drawback of you can read minds? - Okay, you can read minds, but it is hard for you sometimes to distinguish which memories are yours and which are theirs. - I think that would just happen. - That just sounds like schizophrenia. - Every time you read a mind, you'd partially be assisting your own schizophrenia. - Yeah, maybe not. - Okay.

- How about my favorite type now? Useless powers with useless drawbacks. - Okay. - What if you will never ever spill a drink ever again in your life? - But you can never drink again every once. - But you have to eat at least one olive every single day, otherwise you lose the power.

- Sure, I'll take that. - And someone dies. - And you have no legs.

- But you have to source the olives from a specific olive maker in Italy. - Yeah, I'm knocking over all the drinks, dog. - Do you have any olives from Jean Perignon? - What if they just run, what if like the chain, supply chain just runs out? - Why is there a strong zero? - Who got the strong zero? - Why did we bring- - You want a bowl? - You wanna join in, Kai? Yeah, come on, drink on the job. Why not? - Drink on the job. - Terrible boss. - Black pepper. - They didn't have pizza potato?

- This is the goaded chips, man. This is the goaded chips. - Black pepper. - Oh, I do love black pepper. Go on, I'll have one. - Okay, okay. - I should have had more than just a fucking salad before drinking this wine, man. This is my problem every time. Every time in After Dark, you guys are like, "Oh, we had a fat curry." And I'm like, "I had a salad today." - Can I have a wine, please? - No, I don't need plates, man. I don't need plates. What are we, in the 21st century? - Give me another one.

- What's another power up? - You will be able to, you will enjoy all media 200% more than you currently do. You'll get that much like drawback and serotonin from it. However, one in five chance of constantly spoiling it for your friends and you can't help it.

- I'll take that. - Yeah, I'll take that. - That's easy. - I think people have that superpower right now. I think that's actually exists. - That's just your average fucking fan account. - That's your average One Piece fan. - That's just your One Piece fan. Holy shit, I forgot how much I did not miss stan accounts on Twitter until like when a hot new show then is. - Yeah. - I log onto Twitter and I see this fucking Jujutsu Kaisen fan account.

And there's like Gojo and the new guy and like his friends. And in the manga panel, they're like really close. And in the anime, they're like two inches more further apart. And they're like, "I can't believe they've done this." - They've ruined the show. - They've ruined it. And I'm like, oh my God, I do not miss Stan accounts. Oh, thank you so much. - Okay, here's one for you. You can run at the speed of sound. - Sonic. - It's like Sonic. You can run at Sonic speed. - But you're a Sonic fan.

- I'm taking that. - Are you kidding me? But in order for you to run at max speed, you need to be constantly shitting yourself.

- As you're running, it's just poop just flying out of your pants. - You would literally die from just nutrition loss because you'd literally run out of poop and then your body would not have any poop left. So it just like sucks. - Yeah, so you have to like eat as you run to maintain it.

- How would that work Joey? - This is a superpower that's very similar to real life. You will have unlimited money for you, your friends and your family and everything. But at least once a day you have to complete a furry porn commission. - How detailed are we talking? - Very hard and you have to find the clients. They don't just come to you. - I think you just described every furry porn artist. - That's just a furry porn artist 'cause God knows how much fucking money they make. - Yeah, exactly. - These are so good.

- What about time travel? Would you time travel? - Would there be side effects? Were there gonna be side effects? - What limit are you willing to go to to time travel? - What do you mean? Like what am I willing to do? - Kill a person. - Oh yeah, okay, what if you time travel, but every time you time travel, you gotta kill 10 people while you travel too. - Well, I mean, if I time travel away, then I'll be out of the jurisdiction. - You can't go back until you kill 10 people. - Yeah, so kill 10 people and then just be like, "See ya." - Yeah, but you gotta kill them. - It's fine.

And then you got to kill this one kid.

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- Travel really fast. - No one's done it yet though. - Technically people have. - But what I'm saying is like, yeah, but like that's like fucking not that many years. I'm talking like- - It's like a microsecond actually. - Yeah, exactly. It's like- - The future. - I'm talking like, you know, several decades worth, maybe even more, several centuries if you want, several millennia. If you had to pick, if there were two buttons right in front of you, one of them you could travel to any time in the past- - Can you travel back? - No.

- Well, you'll be taking a massive risk traveling to the future because you're like, what if you hate it? What if you hate that time period? - No one's gonna do it. - No one's gonna do it? - No. - What if you could come back and you can only do this trip once, which one would you go to, the future or past? - I'd go to the past. - Past? - Really? - Yeah. - Bro, I just feel like you'd be so goaded with all the knowledge. It'd be too OP. - Yeah. - In the past? - Yeah. - I would go to the future. - Why? - 'Cause then I'd come back and I'd be like, well, I know what's gonna happen. - That's if you survive. You don't know what's waiting for you.

- What if it's a barren wasteland and no oxygen? - Well then I'll fucking enjoy my life while I have it. - You dead right away. You dead on Spawn. - Yeah, what if everyone's using like fucking Elon coins and shoving Jeff Bezos butt plug up their fucking ass? - Then I'll just kill myself at that point. That'll be like, this is not a future worth living for. - 'Cause I thought about this. I'm like, okay, if time travel did exist, right? Then surely,

time travel tourism would exist, right? 'Cause I feel like time travel tourism- - It's just museums. - Huh? No, okay. But there are museums, right? - That's museums and watching sci-fi films. - Yeah, yeah. But if you could,

if you could visit any time period as like a kind of like a tourist where you, you know, instead of going to fucking Japan on your holiday, you go to a fucking 19- - We could go to 1980s Japan. - Yeah, 1970 Japan or whatever. Which time period would you want to see? And would you want to see dinosaurs? - No. - I think that's overrated. - I would not want to see dinosaurs 'cause I would not survive. - In the past, I would probably go back to like, maybe like the Edo period.

- At a period? - Yeah, I think that could be pretty dope. Like obviously be dangerous as fuck. Obviously any period of history is way more dangerous than right now, but I don't know. I think it'd just be like really cool to be like, "Holy fuck, that's a real samurai. That's sick." And then I get caught. - I go back and I'd be like, "Hey, where's the guy who discovered lead?"

- Tell me, I'll shoot that guy and I'll come back. - What'd you mean? - The guy decided to put lead in everything and like poisoned everyone. - Yeah, I'd be like Oppenheimer, where is he?

- I'll take them out before they make a movie. - No, but like as a tourist, you're like not allowed to like- - Interact. - Interact with the- - Yeah, I'd say like Edo period. - Edo period? - Yeah, 'cause I think it's like, it's far back enough where it'll be obviously completely different world, but it'll also be modern enough where you could get by

- Hopefully like inconspicuously or at least more inconspicuous than say, if you went back to like, you know, the ancient Egyptians or the Romans or whatever. - I wanna watch Olympics number one. That'd be hype as fuck. - The first Olympics? - Yeah, dude, that'd be hype as fuck. Imagine you go back, we somehow have it on DVD. - Just film that shit. - Here's a DVD rip of the first Olympics. - Here's a DVD rip of the Olympics.

- It's like 240p. - Think about back in the day, they didn't have fucking television. All they had was this one event to like keep them entertained that you could- - You had to physically go there to see them. - You had to physically go there and that was like your only entertainment. - To watch a man get slaughtered for sport. - What about time travel? You can do it at a well, but you have to call a coin toss every time.

- And what's the coin toss entail? - That's just fear and hunger. - Yeah, but you die. - You die? - You die if you- - That is just fear and hunger. - Yeah, but there's odds of that. - No, I definitely would not. - Why not? - Sometimes I really ain't worth it. - What if your life sucks? - Well then I guess it is worth it. - All right. - My life's pretty all right, so I'll pass, yeah. - What about if you have a power, but you spawned that monster from "It Follows"? Have you seen "It Follows"? - No.

- Okay, so the whole concept of "It Follows" is that there is this kind of like creature or monster. If it touches you, you're dead. But it moves really, really slowly. And it can take the form of like any kind of human being. So you don't know where it's coming. - You've had one glass of wine, bro. Calm down, dude.

- If it was Jeff Raffstein, I'd be fucking terrified. - You'd know it's coming then. - I'd be like, oh God, here he comes. Help. - Okay. Unrelated to that. - Okay. - If you time travel, every time you time travel, usually you become a year younger. - That'd be awesome. I could be like 20 again. - Yeah, but then once you get to 20, you can only do it once a year.

- So? - I will happily, that means technically you could just be immortal, right? - Yeah, because you can just like, you celebrate your birthday. - But you can't return to the time that you've been to. - Yeah, you just live it again, right? - Yeah, but no, you're gonna be unhappy. You're gonna be fucking living forever at some point. You're gonna wanna die. You're gonna wanna get old at some point. - I don't know. - Some people don't. - Yeah, I mean. - Some people wanna be young forever.

- Yeah, I mean, what you're describing is basically just time traveling back to reliving what you've already lived. And I'm like, yeah, that's awesome. Which means I can go back and relive some of my coolest memories. The kind of offshoot of that is that I would just have to relive a portion of your life that you've already lived. And that's great 'cause I can just min max it. - What if you- - You're like, I know what's coming up. - I go back to high school, I'm like, I have max memories now. - Here's the next caveat.

- That's a sound cool way. What if you then, when you go back and you lose that year, you also lose all memories of that year that you lost. So you can get younger, but you lose all the memories of every year that you've taken back essentially. So you could be stuck in this loop of being like, why the fuck am I here? - Then I would take it because you would never know. - But you might keep going. - You just described reincarnation.

- No, I didn't. - Yeah. You go back to a time, like you go back to when you're born again, but you have no memories of your past life. - You could do that too, but you might get to age seven and be like, "What the fuck's happening? I don't even know." You might even forget you have the ability.

But like, oh my God, there's a trash taste after one glass of wine. If you don't remember it, does it even matter? Because your consciousness can't register it. So if you are never aware you're in a loop, does it really matter you're in a loop? It's just, that's just it, you know? - Okay. - Yeah. Facts and logic. - I don't know why I love hearing, I love thinking about these stupid drawbacks. I was talking about Sue Powers. No one's talking about the drawbacks to Sue Powers.

which is shows about Superman yeti. I wanna know that like Superman scrotum increases by 5% every time he uses a laser beam. You know what I mean? Like that he's gotta be careful about it. You know what I mean? Like I wanna know real fucking- - I wanna get to like a later Superman movie where he's like trying to fucking destroy whatever- - He's like, "I'll just run, I'll walk, I'll walk." - And he's like, "Oh shit." And he loses balance 'cause of his giant nuts. - Yeah, like that would be fun to watch. - Superman would look like a hobo if he existed in real life. Okay, think about this.

- Okay, where did this come from? - Think about this. How can he shave? - Yeah, I guess he can't. - Yeah, he can't shave. How would he actually be swole? How can he find any resistance like workout with to have the physique that he does? - Oh, I saw this online one time, someone was saying this.

- I'm like Superman would be a scrawny ass dude. He can't cut his hair. - Like All Might. - I can see the Reddit post for this already. - Like All Might, right? - Sorry? - Like All Might. - Like All Might. - Like All Might. - When he's like shriveled up. - Oh yeah, he would be actually. - Yeah. - But he would still be super, super powerful. But he'd just look like a scrawny dude. - I already think most superpowers are like overrated. - Okay. - If you even think about it for like a second. - You can watch.

You can watch a show and get all the feelings of watching a show instantly. Whenever you want to like, whenever you talk about something, you can be like, ah, I want to watch arcane, which you never would. You're like, I can just watch it in an instant. Yeah. There's a one in five chance. What? What's the one in five chance? There's a one in five chance that you'll, you'll, you'll just forget a piece of media that you've already watched and you can never watch it ever again. I'll take it. Yeah, I'll take it.

- But you could be like your favorite. - Wait, wait, wait, you mean instantly watch something? - You could instantly watch something, but I guess you could keep gaming it and keep doing it over and over. - Yeah, if you instantly watch, so when you instantly watch something, do you regain all the experiences? - I don't want to instantly watch something. Why would I want to do that? - Your job would be like so much easier.

- No, I mean, it would be easier for my job, but my fucking mental. - But like to yourself, you'd be just as you experienced it. Like you would have those memories. - So basically time stands still while you're watching it. - Yeah, while you watch it and you'll watch it all, but you occasionally will just forget shows and you can't remember. - I would rather have the ability to- - That just happens to me in real life. I watch a bunch of shows and then I'm like, wait, what was that show about again? I don't fucking remember. - That's just me with Isekai.

- I watch one Icica, I forget one other Icica. - There's a limit to how much Icica you can have in your memory. - I would rather have the ability to erase the memory of watching a show for the first time. I think- - What's the drawback? - What's the drawback? You shit yourself. - You develop dementia. - The drawback is, let me think of a drawback. The drawback of- - Your TV screen gets two inches smaller.

- Am I like show 20? - Yeah, you're like, man, I really wanna watch Death Note again. But your TV gets small, you're like, fuck, I gotta buy a new TV again at some point, re-fucking reset it. I think that's perfect. - That's so dumb. - That's the level of inconvenience I want. Where I buy this amazing TV, I really wanna rewatch Breaking Bad, and I do it, and then my TV suddenly is smaller, and I'm like, fuck. - I got a power up that I actually want. - What? - Is to be fluent in every language. - What's the drawback?

The drawback is that you have call me son level communication.

- Would you take it? - You just declared war against all introverts. - Fuck no. Dude, it's better to be extroverted in my opinion in one language than to be introverted in like 900. - Oh, there you go. - I mean, there's so many benefits. I mean, you could still do, it depends what you like. I mean, I think we all value, you know, actually talking and communicating. But some people might value just being able to read other, you know, 'cause if you can read every single book ever, that's more valuable. But I think- - That's why it's a good caveat. Some people take it, some people won't.

- I think you'd be dumb not to take it. 'Cause you can learn how to be extroverted. - Yeah. - I don't think I'd be extra, I'd be like the guy who knows all languages, Rosetta Stone, child's play. I can read it in one moment.

- Totally, I take that. - Okay, what about- - What about if you can understand all languages- - And you forget one a day? - You understand- - So what, you get to like day 190 something and you just like- - Well, it might be like- - Not understand a single language. - Day one, you might forget like some absolutely ancient language that no one's heard of. But day four, you might forget English.

And you're like, well shit, at least I got Spanish, Chinese. No, no, no, day 90, you lost those. But don't worry, you still have Aztec. You know what I mean? - So wait, what's the conclusion to this though? Is that you just- - You're dead, you're dead. - You can't, you just become you. - Yeah, you have like the best five years of your life probably. I don't know how many languages have ever- - How many languages exist? - How many languages have ever exist?

- How many languages have ever existed? - Probably thousands, right? - 31,000. - 31,000, okay. - I mean, fucking great odds. - You have 31,000 days to live. - You know, that's a lot. - No, that's more than enough. - Yeah, that's a whole life. - Yeah, yeah, yeah. Wait, how many days are in a life? - How many days are in a lifetime? - I think that's actually a fantastic trade off. - Yeah. - You know every single language

- Just pray to the Gacha gods you don't forget the ones that are relevant. - It's just the awkward moment of when like, you know, you start bragging to your friends being like, "Yeah, I know Aztec." And then they come back to you the next day and being like, "So what was that thing in Aztec?" And I'll be like, "Fuck, I don't remember." - You'll be able to help.

- Solve so many mysteries. - You couldn't even like a fucking, oh no, you're talking about forgetting Aztec. - Yeah, or forgetting any language, right? Wait, so how many days? - 28,800. - Yeah, you'd have more than enough. - You'd have more than enough. - However, I want a hundred languages are relevant nowadays. I know that's vastly under, but let's be like, there's like the main, there's the main like 20 that are the most widely spoken. And I guess if you forgot,

like the really big ones. - But can you relearn languages? - No.

- You cannot relearn. Would you take this? - I would still take it. - I think it's a great, I think the odds are still on your side. You just pray that you don't get a bad roll. - Yeah, I just hope I'm not on my deathbed and my grandchildren are trying to talk to me and I can only reply back in Mesopotamia. - You still have the same level of intelligence though as well. So like for the first 12 years of your life, you're still fucking useless. So you're just burning languages away. You know, you've already lost a good few thousand by the time you were able to use them. - True.

- Which suck, you're like, do you guys know Latin? Welsh? No? Okay. I think that'd be cool. That'd be a cool movie. - Yeah. - M. Night Shyamalan, get on that shit. - Why M. Night Shyamalan? - 'Cause it just sounds like a horrible movie. - The twist is they're all the same language. It was in his head, the inside. - The twist is they're living in a future world where everyone speaks English. - Yeah. Do you know a video that fucked me up the other day? I saw a video.

where like it was an interview. Apparently this is a lot of people have this with someone who doesn't have an internal monologue. - Oh yeah, I've heard of this. - Yeah. - I fucking wish I could turn mine off. I never fucking shut the fuck up. - Like I cannot comprehend how your mind functions without like an inner voice. - Yeah, so like if you're sitting there not talking to anyone, are you just in complete silence? - Yeah, yeah. - You must be. - You ever think some of these people are just making this shit up?

- Conspiracy. - There's gotta be some people making this shit up. - What if they do actually have an inner voice, but it's just real, like the volume's down to like one and they just can't hear it. - That's not how it works. - That's not, yeah. - Your fucking monologue doesn't have a volume. - You never know.

- Apparently some people don't have one, which is even weirder in my opinion. - Yeah, I can't like, they were talking about reading, right? They were talking about how they read stuff. And I saw this video and it was like, they were explaining that they recognize the shape of the words. - I do that. - And then with the shape of the words, there's a certain flow to the shape that they recognize and internalize and shit like that. - I do that. - You do that? - Yeah.

- So you don't have any inner voice either? - Well, no, I do. I don't read the words. I read the shape. - Yeah, but do you hear the words when you read? - No. - Like when you read something- - You don't? Who the fuck hears the words? - I do. - What the fuck? You don't hear words? - If I'm looking at this, right? I'm looking at this. I'm not saying it out loud, but in my head, I'm saying out loud, strong zero. - Strong zero.

- I mean, I guess sometimes I would, but not all the time. I mean, now that I'm, now you're telling me to do it, I'm doing it. But I don't think I would normally do that. I think I would just clock it as strong zero. But I wouldn't say it in my head. - You can't hear it in your head. - But when you're like reading a sentence, like when are you like, let's say you're reading the shittiest YouTube comment. - Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, I'll read it out of my head. - Like, okay.

- Here's another question. When you're reading a really stupid YouTube comment or a really stupid tweet, do you have like a voice in your head that like reads out for you? - Hell yeah. - Or do you read out the sentence and then you find it funny? - I just read it in my own voice. - No, I read it in your own voice. - I read it in a dumb voice. I'm like, this video was so stupid, I hated it, unsubscribe this night. - I think with some of these things, right? Like, you know how like people, they get,

they're like, they go on forums like, "I saw this video game one time and this happened, can you guys help me find it?" And then it turns out it never existed. But everyone's like, "Oh, I know that game."

I think this shit happens with these- - Mandora effect? - Yeah, no, it's different, that's different. That's where people misremember something. - Oh, yeah, yeah. - But like they actually just, everyone just fabricates a game and they all kind of have very sparse memories and collective experiences. I think this is what happens sometimes with this stuff. I think people hear pieces of something and they're like, "Oh, I have that too." And obviously there's no way we can scientifically prove or be like, "Yes, you have it or not." We're just going on the word of people saying it. And let's be honest,

If someone found out they could get a little bit of attention from making something up, I think some people would do it. Let's be real. Let's be real. Come on. People make shit up. Let's not pretend that we don't live in a world where people don't make shit up for no reason. There's people who are like, oh, yes, my body is magnetic. I live next to mine. It makes magnetic. And they put like spoons on their nose and they're like, what's wrong with you?

- You don't see those videos? - What the fuck are you talking about? - You don't see those videos? - You've lost me, man. - You don't see those videos where you claim to be magnetic? - No. - What? - No. - You've seen this, right?

- What? This is like a whole thing. - This is a you thing. - No, no. - I think this is what we call the Mandela effect. - Stop fucking gaslighting me. This is not a me thing. This is a thing that people do where they claim to be magnetic and they just stick the spoons and the forks on their body. - What the fuck are you talking about?

- This sounds like the weirdest fever dream of my life. - I genuinely can't believe you've never heard of this. - No, because that's so easy to disprove. - People are dumb as fuck. Bro, this is so common. I can't believe you. - What the fuck? - I genuinely am in shock you've never heard of this. - How the fuck did you fall into this rabbit hole? - This has been on like mainstream TV for like 20 or 30 years. - I've never heard of this. - This is so, like people fake it all the fucking time.

- I know people fake it all the fucking time, but like, you know, at least have the decency to like fake something that is either really difficult to prove or just straight up impossible. - People want attention. People want attention. They make shit up all the time. - Oh yeah, of course. - How do you know the difference between someone who's faking and someone who genuinely believes it and is just dumb? - I believe it's the same thing. - No, no, no, no. - Don't know what to tell you, man. - Some people do like performances or shows. Like, look, I'll stick things to my body. Turns out I'm just sweaty.

- There's double-sided tape on this thing. - It's just shit, isn't it? It's fucking awful. - I mean, it's a difference between like a scam and someone who is really believing in what they are doing, but is just scientifically wrong. - Yeah. Well, you know, it's like- - Do you think flat earthers actually believe it? - Yeah, they do. 100% they do.

- I'd like to hope not, but- - They absolutely do. - I've seen what they've said and- - They absolutely do, right? So it's not like a nefarious kind of like- - There's some smart people as well. - It's not a troll. - There's some smart people who believe in that shit. And it's like sad 'cause it's like they just get in this mindset and then-

You know, we're really bad at being, when we believe something, being proven otherwise. Yeah. Just as humans in general. Yeah. So I think there's just a lot of that at play. And it sucks because, again, you see some of these like really smart dudes who are really put together who are like, I'm going to disprove it. And they do a science experiment that proves that the earth is round, obviously, because it fucking is. Yeah. And it's like, wow, such a smart person who could put together an experiment that would actually prove if the earth was flat or not. And they disprove themselves and they still don't believe it.

That's weird. But also I don't know the mental chemistry that's going on there where you get faced with evidence and then you're like, no.

'Cause if someone shows me that I'm wrong on something like scientifically, I'd be like, all right. - It happens all the time. - Like if someone shows me that food poisoning is really an ill, no actually. I'll believe them. I ain't seen nothing. - That happens all the time in trash taste. You tell me pizza crusts are good, I'm like, no, you're wrong. And like, that's like my truth. - Well, that's subjective. - That's subjective, yeah. - It's crazy to me that like, yeah, I don't know.

It's crazy to me that like, I guess we talked a bit about it and other stuff. Like people like believe historical events didn't happen. It's like we have so much proof. It's like, you think someone faked it, bro? Okay.

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I don't know, that's weird. - Well, what if- - I don't wanna get too deep into that. - What if the evidence is fake? - Oh my God. Which it sometimes is. There's a great- - 'Cause we all know NASA faked the moon landing. - There's a great Veritasium video where there have actually been many conspiracy theories that were proven correct. There are situations where sometimes it is valid to believe a conspiracy theory and then that's part of the issue is that

that you can never really rule stuff out. - Yeah, but that's the problem. It's like once one conspiracy theory that has made its way around the world has at the end of it all proven to be true, then that validates every other conspiracy theory to be like, see, this one was right. And that was labeled as a conspiracy theory, but which means that our theory, which you guys call conspiracy theories has a leg up in this conversation because this one was proven true. When in reality, it's just one anomaly.

- Also, it's just nice just to let your imagination run wild. Sometimes reality is just boring and it's just like, a lot of the times the boring explanation is the right one. Maybe like- - I think it's satisfying to feel like you figured something out that not everyone else did. I was in an Uber in LA, of course I was. - Of course. - There was a guy and you know, being a white guy, I feel like I attract, like a lot of the crazy like,

- Where are you going with this? - Feel way more comfortable opening up to me about the crazy. And I also don't judge 'cause I'm like, I actually wanna hear what they have to say. 'Cause I find it very amusing.

So this guy starts going on about something. He's like, "Are you from England? That's nice." He's like, "Yeah, well..." Because I mentioned, yeah, England, sorry, from the UK. He's like, "Yeah, he's from the UK." He's like, "Oh, that's nice." The US is going to be a lot better when the war's over. I'm like, "Yeah, man, I guess the whole Ukraine thing is pretty bad right now, huh? It's not going too well." He's like, "No, no, no. The war happened in the US." I was like, "There's a war happening in the US?" He's like,

Well, I don't want to get too much into it because I don't know where you lie. And I'm like, well, I'm always interested to learn and to be corrected because I just want to hear what he has to say. So I'm trying to tell him that- You're entertaining him. Yeah, man, I get you. He's like, well, he basically went on the whole nanomachines rant. Nanomachines, son. Instead of being like the inside government, yada, yada, yada, and was telling me about it. And he was like, you know, I just-

The global warming thing, I think it's just a huge scam. And I go, well, yeah, but why did you buy a Tesla then?

He's like, well, the features are just great. I was like, yeah, but I mean, surely you wouldn't get the electric. And he's like, well, you know, and I felt like I was losing him. So I was like, yeah, you're right. You're right. You're right. Yeah. But he's just going off and on and on and on. And he seemed like a really nice guy initially. And like while put together, he started going off about cabals in the government. And I was like, just miseducated. Yeah. Well, they seem like a rather intelligent guy, but he kept going about vibrations and shit. And I was like, what happened to you?

- I think the real problem is when science became incomprehensible, right? - Like to the layman. - Well, you think like the Hadron Collider is just too complicated for someone to understand? - Yeah. - That's scary. - You look at something like

let's say quantum theory or- - Yeah, you look at like string theory and people are like, I don't know what the fuck this is about. They might be making this shit up. - I mean, it's easy to understand really. Well, you just need a higher intellect. - You need to watch a lot of Rick and Morty- - Look, I didn't watch Rick and Morty, so I don't properly understand, but you get into like quantum theory where, you know, they're doing things with,

That's like my explanation of it and the Hadron Collider. - Is that your explanation of quantum physics? - Yes, yes. - Than doing things with stuff? - Okay, okay. Explain to me how this makes sense logically, right? Whatever the fucking, the cat.

- "Schrodinger's Cat"? - "Schrodinger's Cat", where something is both alive and dead at the same time. - Okay, I can explain this. - Which in quantum field theory is- - I can explain this as someone who was this close to going into quantum physics in uni. - And you became a YouTuber. - And then I became a YouTuber. - I really trust you in my quantum field. - I really fell off. - I nearly became an award-winning artist. I just didn't. - I became unemployed.

So Schrodinger's cat is this idea that the universe and every decision that is made in the universe runs on what is called a system. - Yeah. - Okay. And please correct me in the comments if I'm wrong about this.

- I thought you were asking me, I'm like, - This is all you man. - Crank me if I'm wrong. - But basically it's like if a state of being has two or more conclusions, right? Which say for example, there is this like cheese board for example, has the conclusion of being face up like this, or it has the,

- Option of being face down like this. Those are two different states. But in reality, what we see is just one of those states. This thing is currently face down. Schrodinger's cat is this thought experiment of there's a cat inside of a box that is enclosed. I think Schrodinger originally did it with like some chemicals. Einstein did it with a stick of dynamite. But basically-

- That's why Einstein's go to. - I don't want to just poison the cat. I want to eviscerate the cat. But basically there is a box that has a cat and some thing or device that can potentially kill the cat.

and they close the box so they can't see inside the box. There is a 50% chance that in Einstein's case, the dynamite will explode and kill the cat or there is a 50% chance that the dynamite will not explode and the cat is alive.

But because the box is closed right now, you don't know what state the cat is in. - Both states exist at the same time. - But quantum physics state that this cat right now is in a, what is called a superposition, which is where it is both alive and dead at the same time. Because the system has not been closed. - We all know that. - So the closing of the system in this case is when Schrodinger-Einstein opens the box to see if the cat is either dead or alive, not both.

So now here's the question. The question is what box is Schrodinger inside of that made him close the system of opening the box or closing it? - Flat earth innit? - So there was this idea of, well, Schrodinger is like, okay, well I've determined my actions have determined this system in one way or another. But what is determining my system to be one way or another? What is creating my reality?

And that's the whole idea of "Shernei's Cat", I think.

- Mildly tipsy member of trash chase explains quantum physics. - It's been a while since I studied this. It's been a while since I studied this, I might be completely wrong, but that's my understanding of it. And it's very fascinating when you like look into it, 'cause then you start to look into multiple dimensions and string theory and uncertainty principle and all this kind of shit. - Yeah, see, like you've already lost Connor and like partially me in that like conversation. So imagine like the average flat earther, you know?

- Which, you know, have you seen like the map? Like the flat earth map? - Dude, it looks badass. - Holy shit. - I kinda wish it was real. - It looks like a Lord of the Rings map. - Yeah, this is like Tolkien level of world building, man. Fucking hell. - Man, no one- - Make sure to write a book. - No one, like if you haven't seen this map, like flat earthers have made a map of like what is beyond kind of like what we can see. Like there's like a big- - The end of the earth. - Like what's beyond the end of the earth.

And it is like some fucking Game of Thrones level world building. - It's sick. - Yeah, legit. - Me and my flat earth boys get together. - Don't fuck with the flat earth. - You don't fuck with the flat earth?

The thing that boggles my mind with the flat earth is that you could have chose anything to get invested in. And the one thing you decided to give a fuck about is disputing that the earth is a ball.

Like you could have gotten into like the CIA is poisoning our minds or something, which is kind of like wild, but at least out there. - Yeah. - You really chose the most boring conspiracy theory of the earth is flat. - Not only the most boring, but the most proven to be wrong conspiracy theory. - Yeah, it's like picking your favorite TV show and going like Rugrats. It's like, really? Really, that's it? That's the best you can come up with?

- It's a good show, but really? - Hey man, you never heard of the Rugrats? - No, it's no one's favorite show, Garnt. - Sorry? - The Rugrats is nobody's favorite show. - You said about many shows that aired on like Saturday night cartoons. - I'm gonna make you both happy. - What? I'm waiting. - With one word, PS2 demo discs. - Ooh. - I never had a PS2. - He's a Nintendo boy. - I'm a Nintendo boy, bro. - He like...

- I never had a PS2. My first PlayStation console was a PSP. - I just realized, 'cause I don't know why the flat earth made me think about it and Rugrats, but I played the shit. - Like Joey goes home and like worships the fucking Kirby shrine and it's like Pikachu. - Did your parents just buy you games?

- Did your parents buy you games? - When I was little. - Fuck, they would be like, "Christmas is coming up, you get one game." - Yeah, no, I was like that as well, but I fucking cherish that one game. - Here's the thing. - I'm the fucking idiot who'd buy fucking straight to DVD games. - Yeah, I didn't do that. - I'm a little kid. - Straight to DVD. - Straight to like, you know, the fucking back in the day when a movie came out, it had to have a game come out with it.

- Oh, I played the Madagascar Xbox game though. That was dog shit. - They're all dog shit. - I know. - Except for like one or two that go. - The Incredibles game was hype. - But I don't know. Oh yeah, the Incredibles game was good. But I remember like I,

I had so many demo discs that came with magazines. I think I played the demo disc more than I played anything else on PS2. - See, I didn't get, I don't know, maybe it was just like- - Nintendo were too damn cheap. - Well, no, maybe it was just my area or maybe just Australia in general, but I never had like the magazines. - Can you open another bottle, Kai? It's in the fridge. Sorry, I interrupted you. - How dare you? - Sorry, wine's more important. - Okay, yeah, fair enough. I never had those like gaming magazines.

- I didn't get them, but my friends would give me the demo discs when they were done. - Where did they get them from? - The magazines. - Where did they get the magazines from? - They'd buy them. - From where? - The store. - See, we didn't have that. - The supermarket sold magazines. - No, we didn't have those magazines that came with those demo discs. - Oh, okay. They were definitely like UK exclusive. - Must've been, yeah. - 'Cause like obviously the- - Australia must've had it. - You probably had it. - Maybe. - You know, you'd get like,

- I remember I played the Ratchet and Clank demo. - Okay. - Like 20 plus times. And I don't know, I never played the game. But I played the robot battling thing on the third Ratchet and Clank in the demo. I played it like a hundred times. - The fact that you've never played the full game is hilarious. - I never could, my parents never bought it for me. - That was me with the Metal Gear Solid 1 demo. - I don't know if you can tell me this. - Yeah, yeah. I mean, it was such a good demo. - I never got the demos, man. I just got the game.

- Is that privilege for me to say? - Why aren't we time traveling back to this time? We got to just fuck around and play video games. - I just want to mind empty, just play some fucking Mario sluggers with my friends. - Dude, you bastard. Which Mario sluggers, which console? - The GameCube one. - This is fucked, okay. Did I ever tell you about this thing that happened to me with the second game? - What? - Second Mario sluggers they released. - Yeah, the newest one, right? - So they released it on the Wii.

And I was in my Wii phase where I was obsessed with pretty much anything Mario, I bought it. - Yeah, hell yeah. - 'Cause you just know it's gonna be goaded. - Hell yeah, dude. - Yeah. - That's some great Mario games. - And all the Mario games that I played up till then that was sport had served me very well. Mainly Mario Super Strikers on the GameCube. - Oh, goaded. - Which I was so pissed off at my little brother for because one day I came home and he'd stabbed a hole in all of the plastic of the front.

- Just 'cause he was bored. - I would kill my brother if I- - And I realized that like that game also when I was like 17, when I was selling all my games to buy new games, that one we sold for like full price if it was like normal. - Oh yeah. - But he fucked up the front and stabbed it all. So it was only worth like half and I was frustrated 'cause it was a lot of money. - I mean, you still got half for it?

Dude, that game, at least in Europe, it was so hard to get a copy of it. - Oh, I guess, yeah, UK is just with football. - Because everyone just, that was such a sleeper hit. Anyway. - Yeah, that's such a good game. - What were we talking about? The Sluggers. So for one Christmas,

The Christmas prior, I remember I told this story on Trash Taste. I'd gotten Pokemon Emerald months early 'cause we imported it from like, I don't know where. And I was like the coolest fucking kid in school. Everyone was like, "How the fuck does he have Pokemon Emerald three months early?" It came out, I was like, "Already beat it." 'Cause they had like the battle tower at that point. - Yeah, yeah, yeah. - Already beat 'em. Already got everything done. - Damn. - And so I was like, "Well, I'll just do it again with Super Mario Sluggers. I'll get the game early and I'll fucking be high." - Wait, how did you get Emerald early?

- My mom ordered it from either America or China. - Oh, okay. Oh right, 'cause it comes out often, right? - Because this was back in the day where- - It was Japan, America, Europe, Australia. - Yeah, yeah, and they really, like Europe normally-

Weirdly in some consoles they got shafted and other consoles they got it first. It was so bizarre how I would end up working. Normally you could count in Japan getting it first. - Yes, of course. - So I might've got a Japanese copy. Anyway, the Wii had region block. So I got this disc, didn't work on the Wii. Obviously we didn't know how to region blocks. My parents don't know. I don't know. I'm a dumb kid. And so my mom had sent it back.

This is my Christmas present, the one I was so excited for. And I went through like a year of trying to get this game back and forth and I just could not get it. And I think it just didn't release in Europe in the end, I think. - Oh really? Sluggers, the baseball game. - The second one. - Oh, the second one. I don't know, I never played the second one. I only played the GameCube one. I sucked so many hours into that game. Holy fuck.

- I still have that. I still have a fucking physical copy of GameCube Mario Sluggers. That shit in a party setting, bro, that shit goes hard. That shit goes so hard. You don't even have to know anything about baseball. That game is so fucking fun. - I've never played Mario Sluggers. That was past my Nintendo phase. - Oh dude, so good. - My Nintendo phase died with like the GameCube.

That was like the last console that I owned until the Switch. - You never played Mario Galaxy? - Yeah, motherfucker. - It was Mario Super Sluggers, the game that I was trying to get my goddamn fucking hands on for ages. Never released in Europe or Australia. - Really? - We were both cocked. - Wait, what the fuck? - The sequel, the sequel. - Oh, the sequel, okay. - It was never released in Europe or Australia and I was trying for like two years to get it just 'cause I thought it looked really cool. Turns out the game is kind of meh.

But I was still like trying my goddamn hardest to get it. And yeah, I was really sad about that. I still wake up a cold sweat sometimes thinking about how I never got to play it.

- You guys should play it. - Yeah, you gotta play it on stream. - 'Cause I played like the, I played Rollercoaster Tycoon a shit ton as a kid. - Yep, same. - That was fucking so good. - That was coded. - That game had no right to be as good as it was back in the day. - It was so good. - And it was so fleshed out. - It was so ahead of its time. - Yeah, and then I played another version of a game that was very similar on PS1 called just Theme Park World. - Okay. - And the logo was ass.

- Yeah, I played it on stream one time 'cause I was super nostalgic about it, but holy shit is it hard to run PS1 games on an emulator and find the copy that works and stuff. But it was fun, a lot of fun. - Damn. - All right, you can't game for five years. What's the last game that you play before you go into- - Why can't I game for five years?

- How long do I have? - Yeah, how long do I have? - How long do you have? It's 24 hours. So you have 24 hours. It's your last day. - You can't even beat a fucking RPG. - It's your last day. It's your last day before you can do everything else. You just can't play games. - What's this wine called? - This is- - Murasaki. - Murasaki. - That means purple, which is this theme color. - It's like a- - I bought this for Trish. - It's like a Trish taste wine, bro. - Okay, I know.

- Fucking Pokemon Heart Gold.

- You could beat that in 24 hours and that is- - Okay, do I- - Motherfucker, if you say TFT, I'm gonna fucking slap you. - Do I have, am I like, are those 24 hours? Am I fully alert like normal or is it like a normal sleep schedule? - Like a normal sleep schedule. - Yeah, normal. - So by 16 hours I'm cooked? - Yeah, so tomorrow you wake up, you have all day to play this game and it's the last game you can play. - So I have one day, I have 24 hours. - Yeah, you have a full waking day.

- I would play hard gold bro. - For five years? - Five years. - Yeah. Honestly, right in my head, I'd play TFT. Go to my head. - Fucking hell. - I get so hyped to just squeeze in a game some days when I have like, maybe I got like three meetings in a day. - You wouldn't play Bloons Tower Defense? - Oh, that's so good though as well. I'd make my own in real life. I think that moment when, I don't know if anyone, like when you have like three meetings lined up and you have like,

50 or 60 minutes and you're like, I can squeeze a game in. And you do, and it's like, ah, it was fun. 'Cause I never get time to play it. So whenever I get a chance to squeeze one in, I'm like, yes. - Every time we talk about "Balloons Tower Defense" on this fucking podcast, it just makes me wanna go home and just play "Balloons Tower Defense." - Have you played it recently? - No. - It is fun. - Really? - It is- - I bet, I enjoyed the fuck out of it. - I watched a four, how long was this video? I watched like a three hour YouTube video from this guy explaining the history. - Yeah, you told me. - And it was so fucking good. The new "Balloons" is go tos.

- They update it so much. It's actually a great game. - Garnt is doing like what my dad does where now it's more filled up than before. - Oh, I'm fucked, mate. Oh, I'm fucked. - By the end of this podcast, this wine's gonna be up to the broom. - Oh, sorry, mate. - Sorry, man. I'm fucking fucked. - Sorry, man. I'm fucking shit-faced. - To be fair, it was a cool memory for me drinking with your dad and having your little parrot on my shoulder. - Oh, birdie. - Birdie. I forgot what the... Cockatiel? - Yeah, Cockatiel. - Just having this...

- The cockatiel was chilling on my shoulder for like two hours and I was the happiest I've ever been. - He loves you. - I was like, yes, let's drink wine. - There's like a pet shop near where we live that we have to walk past every time we go out. - They put the dogs in the window. - They have this whole section of birds. I'm like, I keep walking past. - Please join the bird brigade. Birds are the fucking best. - Birds are goaded.

- And the more I go on, the more I realize how good they are. - Yeah. - You know, everyone has a dog and a cat, but you know- - You don't have to take a boat out for a walk. They have a ton of personality. - Yeah, they do. - It's great. - Wait, wait, wait, hold on one second. I'm gonna leave finished, but where jumpers jump. And I know you've probably seen us on TikTok. You know, the two Filipino boys talking about conspiracy theories. So if you guys like conspiracy theories, ghost stories, unsolved mysteries, and just fun facts, give us a listen. I guarantee y'all you'll learn something new every day.

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Apple and all other streaming platforms. Thank you for your time. Give us a listen and check us out. - Question. - Yeah. - Have you changed being a dog or a cat person over time? - Yeah, because I, after I found out- - He doesn't count 'cause he's like 11. - Yeah, after I found out I was allergic to cats, I became a dog person. - Yeah, but you still like cats. - I still love cats. - Right. - That's good. - But there is the, yeah, it's really- - I've flip flopped.

- So what are you now? - I think I'm a dog person right now. - Dog person? - I think it matches my energy of where I'm at in life. I think for a good five years I was a cat person. - I think he's just been hanging out with dinosaurs. - Why? - 'Cause he has like Labrador energy. - He does. - He is a Labrador dude. He's a baby Labrador. It's so cute. - I always flip flop between the two because,

- Like honestly, perfect life, I actually want both. I want a dog and a cat and a bird. I'm a greedy motherfucker. - They can't live in harmony. - Yes they can. Depends on the breed. - They'll be up to shenanigans. - Yeah, they will. They'll be up to shenanigans. One of them is dying. - I don't know. I just, the more I end up, I feel like the happier I am.

the more I want a dog to match my level of satisfaction in life. And the cat is there when I'm feeling down, I'm like, just brood with me. Just sit in the corner. - Just chill, just hang out with me. - Just sit in the corner while I watch TV. - Wait, did you own any pets growing up? - No, never. - Really? - No. I don't know why. I think 'cause we were always surrounded by pets. Like all our friends had pets, you know, 'cause in Wales it's so common to have a dog. It's so easy to have a dog. - But also you're like what, a family of like what, three other brothers?

- Yeah, and I think we always asked for pets, but our mom was like, "Are you gonna take care of it? 'Cause if you don't take care of it, you're not having it." - Did you have pets growing up? - I did not have any pets growing up. - I had a goldfish, I won at a fair. - You might as well have a pet. - I think I must've inherited something from my dad.

because my dad told me once that, my dad's always been an anti animal pet person. And I thought he just fucking hated animals for the longest time in my life. And then I remember having a conversation with him one day about how he took care of a cat

And like, you know, when the cat passed away, he was just like, I would never love an animal again. You know, that's like, I think- - He took that personally. - Yeah, I'm like, yeah, I get it. You lost a member of your family and then you were like, no, I am not ready for another one. And I think that's like the philosophy I would have because I don't know if I've told this member, like this- - The birds? - Not the birds. Yeah, I don't, I didn't technically have pets growing up, but I had like,

like family dogs in like Thailand. - Like around the neighborhood? - Yeah, yeah, yeah. So like my Thai home, we have like a fucking massive family home, bunch of dogs there. When I was like fucking four years old, we like adopted some puppies. They let me name them and the names were Pepsi and Cola.

- Wow. - That's cute. - Pepsi, Pepsi Cola. And I will never forget Pepsi Cola for the rest of my life. And like every time I'd come back to Thailand, 'cause I come back to Thailand every year, they'd always remember me, even if it's been like a little bit longer since I seen them.

And basically we grew up at the same time because I got them when I was a kid and I saw them grow up. They were good boys and then they were gone. And I'm like, for the longest time, I'm like, I don't need another pet. I don't want another pet. - I totally feel that man. I think so far I have lost seven pets in my life.

- Yeah, because again, like my family fucking, especially my parents fucking love animals. So like every moment in my life, there was at least some kind of pet or animal just existing in my house, like growing up. And yeah, I mean, it fucking sucks. Like obviously losing a pet that you've had, even if it's for a short amount of time, like, you know, it fucking sucks. It does feel like a family death, but like,

- I don't know. It's always rewarding to be able to like get to that point where the- - You can feel that severely about it. - Yeah, exactly. Where you can like, you can be with this animal its entire lifetime. And then for you to be there when it passes, like that's a really special moment. And like, it doesn't get any easier obviously, but like just,

- You gave it a good life. - Yeah, just the satisfaction of like this animal probably thinking to itself, like, thank you for giving me a good life. Like it was fun while I lost it. I know, just thinking about this man, like it reminds me of all the pets I had and it's fucking, like the few times I ever saw my dad cry was when our pets died. And I was like, that fucking hit me hard. And like, obviously the pet dying was one thing, but then seeing my fucking parents cry, like that shit broke my heart as a kid. - We need a trash test dog.

- If one of us had a dog, we'd just be like, "Hey, do you mind if Steve comes to the office today?" You'd be like, "Yeah." - Okay, question. What's your dream pet right now? - I keep flip-flopping. - What's your dream pet? If you had to pick one pet to have right now, what would it be? - I wish I had a Shiba Inu with the energy of a golden retriever. - Probably, probably a perfect combat. - That probably exists. - No, I don't know. They're like Shunda. - Shibas can be quite energetic if they're young.

- I want the love of a golden retriever. - Well then you best get a golden retriever. - But they're huge. For Japan. - Oh, for Japan, yeah. What would you get? - I'm gonna get a dog. I'm gonna get one. - You're gonna get one? I think I want a parakeet right now. - Parakeet? - I don't know, I'm in like the bird phase. - Yeah. - Fucking- - Join the call. - I love- - Bird dudes are the type of dudes who'd make ancient scrolls like 500 years ago. That's the energy I'm- - That's more so with me 'cause I want an owl. - You want an owl? - Yeah.

- You'll never see it, it's nocturnal. - No, no, no, no. It's like if it's a raised, like hand raised, then like they're more so like fitted to like staying up a little bit later than the usual sleep schedule. They're like the diet or sleep schedule of ours, all right? It's like pretty much the opposite. Like, so yeah, no, 'cause like Japan is one of the few countries in the world where you can own an app

and a pet owl without any necessary documentation or like licenses. And Japan is really weird like that. Ferrets are another one that you can own here. Chinchillas you can only own in Japan. - You can own ferrets in most countries. - But with a license. - I don't think so. - Yeah, most of them. - My friends own ferrets. - Really? - Yeah. - Or Chinchillas I know for a fact you can only own in Japan, legally. And Chinchillas are fucking adorable as well. - Japan has a really weird,

- They do have like, the reason I said like no to like a Trash Taste dog is just because like to me a dog is like a baby. - Well, what I meant by Trash Taste dog is, I have the dog. - Oh, so it's not a Trash Taste dog, it's a Sea Dog VA dog. - I'm having the dog, but would you, if I had a dog, would you object to the dog turning up every week and we just chill with the dog? - No, of course not. - That'd be hype as fuck. - Why would you name your dog? - Oh man, I don't know.

Part of me wanted to do it as like a monarch name.

just to kind of get back at them. - Well, like George the third. - Just Charles. - Charles. My favorite is when people give their pets really human names. - Or give it like some kind of, I don't know. Dude, I thought I really wanted to get a dog and just, his full name would be Askeladd, but he'd just be Lad. - Lad. - Or Lad, but he's Askeladd. He's really Askeladd, you know what I mean? He's the goat, he's the goat. - I had a friend who had a dog.

- It was like a miniature schnauzer or something. - Ashkelad, come here, boy. - Bro, I had a conversation with Sydney. We were talking about like, you know, what if we had a boy, what would you name it? And Sydney was like, "Oh, I have some names I like." - Kirito. - And she was like, "Oh yeah, I really liked the name. I actually really liked the name, Johan or Griffith." - Oh my fucking God. - And I was just like, Sydney?

- What the two evilest motherfuckers in Mongra. - What are you trying to like- - Johann. - What are you like trying to cultivate here, Sydney? - So I really like the name Hitler. Adolf is a pretty cool name. - Johann, you guys are not German enough as a couple to get away with Johann. - Can you imagine in like 10 years time, this is my son Johann Manitouffa.

- I'm like, you gotta be shitting me. - It's like if your parents, they born you with like the whitest name in existence. So it's like, oh, this is Malcolm Charles. - That's hard. Imagine having a kid and having to name them. Like that's so much mean.

- Are you not gonna do this? - This is how I know Garnt's never owned a pet. - Of course I'm drunk. Yes, I have never owned a pet. I mean, I got fucking Pepsi Cola. That was probably my favorite drink when I was fucking four years old.

- Hey, that's not that bad. When I was born, we had little guy and pocky. - Listen. - So it's not that much different. - It doesn't matter because Joey's dad didn't even use his real name half the time. - Yeah, I mean, that just seems like, obviously, you know, I'll get to that bridge when I come to it. But like, name your kid. That's like so much pressure, right? Because, yeah. - Why? Just pick an easy name.

- What are you gonna call your son? - I'll figure it out. I'll be like Steve or something. - Steve? - No one's gonna give a fuck. Who cares? - Steve Cahoon.

- By the way, congratulations to Felix for being a fucking dad. - Yeah, congratulations. - We gotta give him that, hell yeah. - Why are we clapping? He literally ensured human survival. - This kid's gonna be like one years old by the time this comes out, Joey. - You did it, you had sex. - Well done. - All right, I gotta ask you, okay. So when you got in a relationship, you were in like a long distance relationship as well, right?

- Okay, I gotta ask, when you first met Aki, right? - Yeah. - Were you really worried about how she smelled? Like before- - What the fuck is this question? - Shut the fuck up, shut the fuck up. - What the fuck question is that? - Okay, okay, okay. - Or did you worry being like, oh, I hope Sydney doesn't smell like shit. - You were thinking of Maylene too much.

- Okay, okay, this is like pre- - Did you lick her sweat? - This is like pre-Mae Lin talk. - Okay. - Because I had a genuine worry. I remember I had this such a core memory on the plane, like meeting Sydney for the first time. Obviously we'd got on really well. I love Sydney, I love her personality, but I've never met her in real life. - Sure. - But we'd had video calls before. - Sure. - But here's the thing, there are some senses that you can't get

beyond like, you know, on a video call. And I'm like, I remember having this thought being like, what if I don't like the way she smells? Like that's a big thing. That's a big thing. - Looks perfect, personality perfect. We get along conversationally. Just kind of smells like shit.

- I feel like as somebody- - Bit of a deal breaker if you ask me. - As somebody who smells like shit perpetually, I understand the thing of you gotta like it, whatever it is. - Yeah, I mean, no, okay. - I don't call it stink, I call it musk, actually. - Yeah, the musk, okay. Like here's the thing- - Some people have strong musk. I got a fucking incredible musk. - Oh yeah, you do. - Joey's dying. - You absolutely do. - Like here's the thing, right? To me, like you need to like someone's natural smell.

- Yes, because especially if they're a partner, you're gonna be spending like so much fucking time with them. - Right? - Yeah. - Febreze, innit? - It's like, babe, when are you coming to bed? Hold on. - Just Febreze her. - Yeah, like, fuck the fuck. It's like, Sydney, hold on.

- Hey, it's gonna work. - No, no, no, no, no. - Now I can kiss you. - Okay, okay. 'Cause here's the thing. Okay, like you can- - This is the most drunk conversation I've ever had. - Shut the fuck up. I'm getting to a point. - All right, go on, go on. - I'm getting to a point. Okay, especially with your life partner. To me, you have to like pretty much everything about them, you know?

- And like smell is a heavily important thing, especially when it comes to just like natural senses and stuff like that. You're gonna be spending a lot of time with them, especially in like, especially moments in passion. Of course, that's very, very important. If you don't like someone's smell, to me that is like almost a deal breaker. Like I have, there have been points where I've not been attracted to someone purely because like they have a natural smell that I do not personally like.

- Well, considering I've only ever been with one woman in my life. - What? - It's kinda- - What the fuck Connor, what the fuck? - Okay, considering I've only ever been with one woman in my life, that being Aki, it's kinda hard to discern personally as to the differences in that, especially in like the passion making segment of things. But like I've met plenty of women that smell like shit. Where I'm just like, yeah, that's kind of a deal breaker. - I should have called her, give her like-

You're a lovely person, but I just wish you showered more. - You ever been like jacking off and then you farted and you smell it and it just killed? And then you're like, "Oh, I don't want to do it anymore."

- You even farted as you were like, about to be like, yeah, I'm about to check off, I'm gonna do it. And then you're like, I don't wanna do it anymore. - I've had these Simon farts before, yeah. - And then you're like, it took me out of it. It took me out. The smell was so powerful that I no longer wish to check off. - I'm about to climax and then somewhere it smells like shit. And I'm just like, oh, that just kind of ruined my day. - No Connor, I'm a man of commitment no matter what I follow through.

- So the smell of the maddened of Sydney is what I'm hearing. - Sorry? - The smell of Sydney wouldn't have mattered is what you're saying. - No, I'm like, okay. - You're a man of commitment, he would have followed through. - No, okay. So like, I remember like, I still remember vividly the first time meeting Sydney because I was like, great. - She smelled like shit. - No, I remember so vividly because I remember being like, I see Sydney, I'm so fucking happy. I'm overwhelmed with positive emotions that I finally get to meet her in real life. - Sure. - And then we hug and then I'm like, I'm so happy.

- She smells good. - And then like literally like five seconds in, I'm just like. - All right. - All right. - That's fucking. - All right. - Thank God. Thank God. That is psychotic. Is it psychotic? - If I met up with a long distance person and I heard the fucking audible sniff, I'd be like, okay question real talk. - All right. - You guys both had long distance relationships. - Yeah. - What was going through your head on the way to meet them?

I've never had that. So I don't know what it, you know, I don't know. All I was thinking of in my head was. Cause you met at AX. I met. Yeah. Weekend of AX. That must've been what? Like a.

- In my head, I was just thinking like, God damn. - I just told you what was going through my head. - There's no way it was only that. I refuse to believe it. - In my head, I was just like, fuck, I wish she smells good. - Was it like, I mean, obviously there's gotta be worries. - Okay, in my head, legitimately, I think in my head, I was just thinking like, I hope she, you know, because like I've had before, you know, I met Aki like IRL, I had a lot of like,

- You call, yeah you call. - Online friends, right? And so like I was already used to kind of having this like online relationship with people, you know, obviously that being platonic other than Aki, but you know, there are those moments where when you pursue an online friendship and then you meet the my IRL and they're not quite the same person. Yeah, so in my head, I think legitimately I was thinking like, I hope she is as fucking cool as she is online in real life. And luckily,

she came through and I was like, okay, thank God she wasn't like faking that shit. - Were you worried about how you were coming off there as well? - Oh, absolutely. Yeah, absolutely. - How did you ensure that it went smoothly? - Oh, I activated maximum risk. Like I try to make sure like everything I said and did like was like fucking like, yeah.

You know what I mean? Like, you know, just kind of giving off that like cool demeanor, you know? And then when we started like actually talking and then like eventually like, you know, got together, I was just like, oh, none of that shit fucking matters because she just likes me for who I am. You know? So like, I don't have to like fake being like cool or whatever, because again, like, you know, I've only ever been with one person in my life. - Was that- - And that was Aki, so. - Was that worries about

the online aspect of it and being an influencer? Was there ever conversations about it? - A little bit, yeah. I think like it was kind of interesting to kind of get to, it was like meeting a completely different person again, you know, and then falling in love with them again. Like it was like, I know your online side of things and I really liked that side of things and then meeting them IRL,

was kind of like, it was this same, same, but different. You know, like it was kind of like, oh, I see new sides of you that I never got to see during the whole online thing.

And so now I'm glad to know that like, not only do, not only did I get to see those sides of her, but I actually liked those sides of her. And it's, and it kind of like, you know, made me realize like, oh yeah, I think this relationship is worth pursuing. - That's sweet. - And now we've been together for seven years. - I'll ask you more questions in a second, Garnt, but Joey, I actually, 'cause I've never asked you this. How was the conversation about deciding to go public with it? What was that conversation like? - Oh. - Yeah, we never talked about that. - 'Cause you were not,

- It was like a hot ones episode now. - It just felt like after, I mean, from my perspective, it was like, we knew you were dating and then suddenly it was just public knowledge and everyone knew. And I don't remember, was there an announcement video? How did it all go down? - Yeah, there was an announcement video on both of our channels. - How did that all come around? Who brought it up? - Originally we decided that like, okay, for the first maybe three or four months, we would kind of keep it private. - When did you decide this? - When we started going out.

- Is it online? - Yeah. - Who brought this idea up? - I think Aki did. - Okay, that makes sense. - Yeah, so Aki was like, "Hey, I wanna make sure this is legit and we actually like each other's company, regardless of the whole YouTube thing."

So let's like kind of keep it as private as possible for the first, maybe like three or four months. And I was like, sure, that makes sense. So, you know, I could like spend time with her off camera, you know, actually like bond a proper relationship with her, right? Like regardless of the YouTube videos. And then obviously when she came to visit me in Japan and when I would go visit her in Vegas, we would make videos together.

And then it started to get less and less inconspicuous of like, they might be dating. And so I think the breaking point for me especially was like the point where it was like the worst kept secret of like, okay, these guys are clearly like together or at least in a very intimate relationship together. So I said to Aki, I was like, hey, it's been like three or four months since we've been together now. What do you think about going public?

And she was like, at first she was kind of like, oh, you know, I want to give it a little bit more time. But I also understand that like at this point we might as well just get it out of the way so that we can just do whatever the fuck we want. So then we were like, all right, cool. So we went public. We each uploaded a video on both channels. - How did you decide to do the videos? - So my video was the announcement video of saying like we're dating and then Aki's video on her channel was the video breaking down how it happened.

- You got the trailer, she got the movie. - I'm a YouTuber content brand. You're like, if we're coming out, we are fucking milking this. - If we're coming out, we're not doing the same fucking video. We are doing a two-parter. Now the question is who's gonna be part one? Is it me or you? - How was the reaction initially to it? 'Cause I don't remember any of this. I remember it happening, but I don't remember any of the reactions. - I think it was pretty good.

I mean, this is weird for me to say personally, but like, I think it was like pretty big, especially in the AniTube community because it was kind of the first time where two AniTubers who, you know, were fairly well known at the time, especially in the community kind of decided to get together. Like I, other than Sydney and Garnt, I don't really know any other- - I mean, you guys came into it. - No, I mean like we weren't,

I mean, Sydney wasn't really making content. We were- - Right, right, right. Yeah, I mean, I think everyone knows Sydney. - Yeah. - Throughout Sydney's online presence has always been Sydney and also Garnt. - Yeah. - Yeah. - And it's just like, I was at the time, there was a long time where I wasn't doing YouTube full time. I did YouTube full time like three years after, no, maybe less. - Yeah, I think the time that we announced our relationship publicly, Garnt was still on his hiatus.

- Yeah, I think so. - I believe. - Bro, like the reason when you announced it, that's the reason we became friends. - Yeah. - I remember this vividly because I remember we were like- - I remember this? - Yeah. - This wasn't in the lore of episode one. - Oh no, it's like, it's- - What the fuck? - Okay, here's what I remember because I think this was about the time when I was like coming back to YouTube actually 'cause I remember being in Thailand. - Yeah. - And I remember like coming back from this AX trip being like, "Jerry's a ."

Like he hates me. - Still true. - What a fucking shit cat. - Still true. Like Joey hates me, I hate him. We're just not gonna get along. Comes out to dating hockey, hear the story about long distance relationship and I don't know why, it's just like, oh, he's a human now. Like, oh, we're bros. I get what he's going through. - He just like me for real. - He just like me for real. I sent Jerry a message being like, yo,

Congratulations, man. I get it. In long distance relationship. And Joey applied. And I remember that tweet was the tweet that made me realize, oh, maybe Joey's a real one. Maybe we can get along. - Sometimes the people you think you're gonna hate the most turn out to be the best friends. - No, it was really surprising 'cause I remember when we went public, at least I got a lot of like private DMs from like other AniTubers and messages from other AniTubers who,

I thought didn't know who the fuck I was or cared who the fuck I was. But I feel that day like- - I mean you were so big, even comparatively to the scene, they all knew. - I guess so, yeah. Because like I had all these like, you know, that's how I became close with guys like ChibiReviews. 'Cause like I didn't even know he knew

who I was and they sent me a DM being like, yo, congrats on you being with Aki, like that's fucking cool. And I'm like, oh shit, I didn't even know you knew who I was. So it kind of like weirdly validated me in that community in the same way. 'Cause I always thought I was kind of like the anomaly that just like popped up out of nowhere. And I thought like, like Gaunt initially had, I just thought everyone fucking hated me.

So I never like really even tried to interact with the Antichub community at that point. But then when I came out with Aki, I was like, I realized I was like, oh, people in the community actually one, know who I am and two, actually care about who I am. And so that was kind of my window to be like,

"Hey, let me try and hit up these other creators "in the energy community." And you know, some of them like Garnt and like some other people, I still talk to pretty regularly and I'm pretty close with them. We're in good terms and stuff like that. So I think all in all, it was a good decision to do.

- It's interesting how it's changed though. Like nowadays people don't make those videos anymore. - Man, bring back the YarnyTube community, please. - People just don't make videos about being like, I'm in a relationship. - No, no. - I think it's crazy. I mean, not to say it wasn't,

but I think it's the maturity levels of YouTubers have kind of gotten a bit better now. - I think so. I think the whole- - Talking about that stuff is kind of like, eh, it's kind of like- - Yeah, I don't know if this is a me thing. I'm going back to smell. I'm like, maybe I have been talking to Meily for too fucking long. - You definitely have. - Yeah, because like, okay.

- You ever met like someone who smells like your parents? - What the fuck? - Yeah, it's like the least I'm trying. But that's a biological thing that we've been programmed to not. - Yeah, yeah, yeah. - 'Cause we don't want to inbreed. - Yeah, yeah, yeah, exactly. - So if you smell like your parents, you're like disgusted by it. - Yeah, I'm pretty sure there's like a study that like your smell can tell how close you are genetically

to a person because like the less- - Dude, I just crushed this guy in chest. - The less in common you have with their genes, the better they're gonna smell, right? - Yeah.

- I don't know where this came from. - Oh, this guy got fucked. - So the million dollar question is, does Sydney smell good to you? - Sydney smells great, which is great. - That's great. - This is gonna sound like the most serial killer fucking talk. 'Cause that means genetically, we are very genetically diverse. - She smells like apples.

- Thank God you smell good. - God, I gotta stop talking to Maylene. - You've been talking to Maylene too much. - I have, I have. - Holy fuck.

- But that's like the trouble of like long distance relationship because I had like so many anxieties. Obviously I was like very, very excited to like meet Sydney, but like there are, this was like my very first long distance relationship. So there were just so many things that I was used to in like a real, like not a real person, like in,

- Like a close distance relationship that I'm like, there are so many gaps in my knowledge that I would feel very, very comfortable about. But approaching this wrong long distance relationship, I'm like, kind of just have to hope those gaps that aren't filled are just like good. - How long were you in a long distance with Sydney for?

- It was like a year or something. - Oh, that's not that bad. - Yeah. - Two and a half years, boy. - Two and a half years. How did you do it, man? How did you do it? - Well, the way we did it was we were both established YouTubers at that point. And so we could work from anywhere. So there would be moments where I'm just like, yeah, I'll be in Vegas for three months. - Yeah. - Sure. I'll come and live with you for three months. And I did that multiple times. Like I think over my entire life, I probably spent,

over a year and a half of my life in Vegas. - That's why you fucking hate Vegas. - Yeah, that's why I fucking hate Vegas.

I've seen every corner of that place and in conclusion, it's a bit of a shit hole. Sorry Vegas fans. - It's all coming out now. - It's all coming out now. Like I would not, you would not catch me living there. - That's 'cause you don't gamble. - No, I don't. I don't gamble. I don't really care about that. There's a couple of great restaurants there that I'll fucking love to go back to every time I go back to Vegas. But other than that,

- It's just like, whatever. I'd rather be somewhere else in the US. - Yeah, I mean, I think Vegas was really, really fun when we went there on tour, but I think that's just because you're there with the boys and you're on holiday. - Yeah. - You know? - It's a completely different experience. - We've talked about Vegas in the daytime and that was like, I never knew a city could look so fucking different. - Yeah. - Look who I beat. - Oh, you beat Sasuke? - You beat Sasuke? - You beat Sasuke. - Yo, that shit's rating?

- I thought your rating was higher. - Yeah, I've been playing after I've drank on this. I haven't played in ages and I threw a lot. - This is the most disorganized trash this episode. We're just talking about long distance, meanwhile our host is playing chess. - I clapped Saskia after a bottle and a half of wine, bro.

- Dog shit, man. - Of course you did. - I had zero mistakes, zero inaccuracies, zero blunders, one great move. Thank you, chess.com. - That's why you came second in the chess special. - Well, by the time this is out, I will have also wiped out a pogchamps and lost miserably, but at least I had fun. - That's good. Do you think you're gonna do well for that? We're gonna age this episode. - Fuck no. I haven't played chess in fucking forever. - What do you mean? You just played it. - But I'm playing against Sykuno and Jarvis and I think they're even worse than us.

- That's easy W. - I can't wait for this. - I think Sycuna was 200 and Jarvis was like- - Are you serious? - I think, yeah. And I think, actually, I think Jarvis is pretty good. I think Jarvis is like- - You were on fucking Jarvis' podcast, weren't you? - Yeah, I was on the side- - I found out the other day. - What do you mean you found out and hit it? - It just randomly popped up. - Maybe you found out and it didn't tell you. - Well, first of all, first of all,

- I heard you went on another podcast. How dare you cheat on our podcast. - This is like when you're in a married relationship for like 10 years and you're like, what were you doing around that girl's house the other day? - Let me fucking finish. First of all. - Two other boys who have a multicultural background. - First of all, I wanna apologize to Jarvis. I didn't even know you had a podcast.

Second of all, you didn't tell us. - What do you mean? - You didn't need to tell us everything. I need to know everything you're doing. - Bro, I do so much shit. - I know. Tell me everything you're doing. You're on the Jarvis podcast and I randomly found it and I was like, oh shit.

- He was on the Jarvis podcast. - Yeah, Jarvis is- - That's pretty dope. - Jarvis Jordan are great guys. I like them a lot. - Why didn't you tell us? - Why didn't you tell us? - We need to know everything that you're doing. - I need to know- - What is your entire schedule? - Everything you're doing. Give me your schedule right now. I need to know everything you're doing. - Hold on.

- What? You're starting up another chess game? - I've just won. Yeah. I remember I was, so I met Jarvis at Jarvis Jordan at chess boxing. - Yeah. - And Jarvis who I'd obviously, I'd seen his videos before. - Yeah. - I didn't know if, you know, he's with the creator, you never wanna,

- Wow. With a creditor, you never want to assume they know of you. It's kind of weird if you do and then they don't. So you just assume they have no idea who you are, which is a good way of doing it. And you talk to them like a normal human being. But I knew of Jarvis and Jordan 'cause I'd watched their stuff before and I thought they were very funny. And I was speaking to Jarvis and Jarvis just started geeking out in this Irish bar in LA about Evangelion to me. And I was like, "Dude, I know two guys who would love to be here right now."

- But not me, I don't give a fuck about you. - When are we getting Jarvis on the podcast? - Whenever you want to. - Jarvis, come to Japan, bro. - Really nice guy. And then Jordan, who I'd also seen from the videos, who I met that night as well. And I was like, "Jordan, where the fuck are you from in the UK? 'Cause you sound so posh." And he was like, "I'm from yada, yada, yada area." I was like, "Yeah, you fucking posh boy."

And he's so well-spoken. I'm so jealous. I wish I sounded as one-tenth as eloquent as he does. And they're both so funny. They're really nice guys as well. And he was making bomb lattes. He was making the whole latte art by himself in his house. It was crazy. He went hard. I let the machine do it. There's no artwork. It pours. But I like that, though. I don't need artwork. But it was nice that someone else made the artwork for me. What kind of artwork was it?

- You've seen the classic, the plant thing that everyone does. - Oh, the leaf? - Yeah, yeah, yeah. - But hey, not to knock him down, he's still doing it. I don't do that shit. - That shit's hard as fuck.

- I've tried doing it and I've fucking failed at it. - Yeah, I mean, that's why people get paid for that shit. - Yeah, that's why. - He's grinding his own beans, pressing his own bees with the things. It was amazing watching him do it. - Hell yeah. - It was fantastic. - Do you know I've ruined my previous apartment because of the coffee machine. - What? - We got an espresso machine. This was before the Nespresso. We're like, let's try getting an espresso machine. And I was just like- - Did you say eggspresso?

- Espresso. - Espresso. I can't stop saying espresso. - Why do you say espresso? - I don't know. - What happened to your childhood? - 'Cause he's fast as fuck, boy. - Espresso. - I was maybe dropped on the head. I'm joking, I'm joking. - Actually, I'm not training actually. - And that's when I started like anime actually. - Oh no.

- It was a coin flip. It was a coin flip. - I'm glad you said that, not me. - What was I trying to say? - Is he the Dragon Ball fan or an anime fan? - He chose the right choice. - We bought an espresso machine,

The cheapest one we could find, which obviously had no automation to it as well. So you needed to know what you were doing. - I mean, I think there's benefits to not being automated. I'm just lazy and I don't wanna deal with it. - I'm sure there is. But I learned what those benefits were.

when I tried to make my first espresso and like- - Espresso. - Espresso. - Also we gaslit you one time, you said perspirate or something? - Yeah, I found out it's a real word. - Yeah, you were right, we were wrong. Sorry, I gaslit you. - How dare you. - Yeah, basically like I tried making my first and then I was like, okay, I can follow the YouTube tutorial, put it in, I thought I locked it,

didn't properly lock. So what I get was high pressure coffee beans spewing fucking everywhere, high temperature and it stains my white walls like for like ever. And I'm like, I should not be allowed near this thing. - That's fucking hilarious. - Do you watch this YouTube video? Do you watch, there's a YouTube guy, what's he called, James Hoffman? The guy who like talks in a very,

- And so the coffee beans. - I know that name. - Actually, there's the correct amount of grams to have in a coffee cup before you are meant to put it. I love watching him 'cause he talks about coffee like it's a science. It's very impressive. I imagine it's like Tom Scott if he got into coffee. It's very interesting. And I like to think that I care when I watch, but I really don't. I like the machine and I press the one button, but I appreciate that he cares a lot about it and that there is a difference.

I just don't know. He must drink an ungodly amount of coffee. I wish I was him. Discuss. - Nothing to discuss. - Wait, wait, wait. We were talking about a good invigorating topic before we change. - I cannot remember what we were talking about. - We were talking about online relationships. - Oh yeah, yeah, yeah. - And we just finished about Joey. What about you guys? You talk about yourself. - I did talk about myself. - Okay, I was talking about how it's become outdated. - What about you? Have you ever been long distance?

- Have I ever been along? Yeah, I have. When I was like 18. - Okay. - Yeah. - How long ago? - I didn't watch out. - Like did it end before you- - Yeah, of course it fucking didn't. 'Cause I was 18, I had no goddamn money. And I couldn't do shit. - How'd you meet her? - Voice acting. - Oh shit, okay. - Yeah, and it didn't work out well. And so I was like, "I'm over this." Doing this long distance thing. So I was over it. - If I can't smell you, it's game over. - Smell game, no game. So I, but then I,

I had like, how many lists do they have of that one? I had a few. And then like one of them I did show online and I pretty much was like, what's the fucking point of showing this online? I was like, I got, there's no point of talking about it or whatever. Cause-

when we broke up, people were like, "Oh, you still with that person?" I was like, "No, no, I'm not. Why did I put myself in the situation where I could even be put in there?" They didn't even need to know anyway. Why do I care if some fucking Steve 81 cares if I'm in a relationship or not? I don't give a fuck. - This must be before "We All Man," right? - Yeah, before "Span." - How did you guys know I was dating Sydney?

- What do you mean? - Oh, it's pretty fucking obvious. - Wait, what the fuck? What do you mean? - No, like- - You sound like a paranoia guy. - Okay, okay. - Are you listening? - I'm a bit drunk. - When I found out- - I'm trying to remember when- - When I found out about you- - Yeah.

And this was roughly around the time where you hit me up. It was like a little bit before then that I looked into you and then I saw that you were going out with this girl called Sydney. And I was just like, oh, okay, that's cool. - How did you know that? Was it a Wiki or? - What the fuck? I actually don't know how I knew. - Yeah, I'm trying to think and I'm like, how? - When did you first announce or publicly? - We never announced it.

- Yeah, okay, yeah, now this is bugging me. How did I know you were going out with Sydney? - How, shoot. - I met you both. - Okay, no. - You met us both, but you knew we were dating beforehand, right? - Yeah. - How? - I don't fucking know how I knew. - No, actually, I think the day I found out was the day we met up IRL.

- Oh, was it? - 'Cause Sydney came along. - Yes, she did. - And then we went to the Izakaya and karaoke. - No, you need to have known that because I tweeted you being like, "Hey, I get that you're in a long distance relationship. I can relate. I was also in a long distance relationship." You must've already knew that before because you replied to Sydney's tweet as well. - Hold on, I hate to interrupt, but our host just left. - That doesn't matter right now. Oh, you're going to be- - No, no, no. I think I found out because

of when we were having that DM interaction of like you saying like, hey, you must've said something along the lines of like me and my partner are in Japan right now or something along those lines. And so I was like, oh, okay, you have a partner. And then when we met IRL and then I met Sydney and I was just like, oh, okay, this must be your partner. And then it was just kind of natural. Like, I think there was a part of me where I was like, this guy can't be single.

- He's got too much wrist. - All right, genuinely, anyone who's watching this, please answer my question for me. Because I genuinely don't know when it became public that like me and- - I think you made the fuck up. - That was the quickest kiss on the episode. - Yeah, me like, I genuinely don't know when it happened or how it happened or- - You must have mentioned it in the DM conversation we had before we met. - I feel like I just knew before I met you though.

- Yeah, I just knew. - I just, 'cause like, I never like, I was thinking about it when hearing your story. I was like, I've never made an official announcement that, hey, me and Sid Snap are dating. - Well, that's because at that point, Sid Snap wasn't even like fully established at that point, right? Like she'd made a couple of videos, sure. But like she kind of took like a big break in between, right?

- Yeah, I mean, she did a lot of voice acting in a lot of like online communities. - Yeah, yeah, yeah. - That's how she like made her name and that's like how we met as well. But like, I can't remember ever a point where we could

we kind of just announced that we were dating or anything. - It just kind of came naturally. - Thinking back, I'm like, oh, everyone just knows. Everyone knew and there was not a point where people didn't know. - To be fair, that's probably the easiest coming from someone who had to make a whole fucking video around it. To be like, by the way, if you didn't catch all the signs, Aki and I are dating.

- And there were a lot of people I remember when I released that video that were just like, "No fucking way." - Yeah, 'cause I guess there's some people who weren't invested in you. - Yeah, you know on YouTube analytics, there's the whole thing of what percentage of males versus what percentage of females watch you? - Oh yeah, we talked about this. - Yeah. Before I came out about Aki or before Aki and I even met each other when we were still in long distance, I remember I think my split was 50/50 perfectly.

It was like 50% male, 50% female. - That's pretty good for talking about fucking anime. - Yeah, I was shocked. I was like, who are these 50% female? And then after I came out- - You sound like you want to find them. - Who are they? - They don't exist. Tell me where they are. - Women who love anime don't exist. And then the moment I came out about Aki, I think it dropped to like 80/20. - In which way? - Male to female.

Like my female audience just was just like, all right, I'm done. And then just fucking left. And then all the dudes were like, my man, let's go. And then it's been 80/20 ever since. - Do you have- - Shout out to the 20% women. - Unrelated to the topic of what you're talking about. Do you have any videos or any piece of media or anything you've regretted making online?

- Yeah. - Really? - Plenty. - Like what? - Is there anything you wish you didn't look into or anything you made that you were like, "I wish I didn't make time." Like looking back, I wish I could have told myself not to do it. - I wish I never did that fucking L versus Lelouch rap battle. - Why? We would never have met if we didn't do that.

- That set you on a path to be here today, Joey, on the Trash Taste podcast. - No, I feel you and I would have met in some other fashion either way, you know, 'cause that community was already so small. But like, I actually recently, and by recently, I mean like within this year, actually watched that video again.

- Why do you regret it? - 'Cause I hit 10 years this year, right? And I was just like, I'm gonna spend a day to just kind of look back and reflect on where I've been to kind of like, you know, do the 10 year video, which I did. And I stumbled upon the L versus Lelouch video and I was just like, holy fuck, this is crazy.

- Yeah, that's okay though. But you regret it? Why do you regret it? - I just like- - You wish you didn't make it? - Yeah. You know what I wish? I wish I had made that video better. - Well, yeah, I always wish that. Is there something you've made where you're like, I don't want any iteration of this to exist. I wish I didn't make it.

- It's hard 'cause out of the three of us, I've definitely made the most amount of videos. - Yeah, that's 'cause you did daily upload. - I did daily upload. I have like 1200 videos on my main channel. - I wish you didn't play Nekoporo or something. - No, I don't, again, I don't regret Nekoporo or the Corpse Party era because like, that's where I got my fan base. - Yeah, I'm just trying to gauge. - How about you, Garnt? Anything you regret making or all of it you feel like, eh, about?

- Yeah, I haven't made that many videos. - I have one video that I actually took down just because of how painful it was. It was really early on in my career. I think I was like maybe a year or two into this. And I did a video where I was absolutely shit faced. Like I was like seven or eight beers down. And I decided my dumb ass drunk,

drunk brain decided, "Hey, it'd be a really good idea if you filmed yourself right now." And I did this like three minute vlog where I'm just like in this absolute drunken mess. I didn't have my shirt on for some reason. So I was just like, so there were parts in the video. - You should have loaded it right after. - Yeah, so there were parts in the video where I'm just like zooming into my nipples and I'm just like. - Wait, you got drunk.

- Made this video and then edited it? - Yeah. - And then whilst drunk? - Yeah. - And then uploaded it shortly after? - I remember vividly. I came back from a full day of uni. I recorded like a bunch of like- - What was the video about? - Nothing. It was just, I think it was just called "I am drunk." And it was just like me,

like seven or eight beers in after I've recorded like a couple of episodes, like Nickel Power or some RPG making game or whatever I used to do. And it was just on my phone and I'm just like recording this three minute fucking rant about like me being drunk. And I uploaded it as a vlog online.

- On my main channel. - Were the comments receptive? - I don't remember, to be honest. I hope I didn't scar anyone doing that, but like I took it down a couple of years later. I left it up there 'cause I completely forgotten about it. And then I think Aki was the one that mentioned being like, "Oh, I love that video where you're just like drunk as shit for three minutes."

And then I was like, what are you talking about? And then I looked back on my channel. - Those are the best videos. - Yeah, I looked back on the channel. I saw that video and I was just like, I am deleting that. - I've gotten to the point now where I've been making so much stuff for so long that you could show me a video from six years ago and I'll have no memory of making it. - I...

I can't remember like half of the things I say on Trash Taste. It's like become a meme now. - I genuinely can't remember anything. - I don't remember what I said in the sense. - I remember we used to watch, we used to all, I'm slouching like crazy. Don't worry about it. We used to watch all the episodes. We'd all go through them and review them. And then we realized, hold on, this is insane. I can't watch me talk about shit that I talked about every week for fucking two hours. So we stopped watching. - What was the last episode you fully watched all the way through?

- Maybe the Pete one. - Yeah, I mean, that was a good video. That was a good episode. - Pete's just so fucking talented. - Okay, not including guest episodes. - Oh, like- - Like just us three? - Like two plus years. - Yeah, right? - 'Cause I feel that like when we talk, it's like ingrained in my memory. Like I don't need to watch it again. I remember like, 'cause I'll also remember stuff that I said that I'm like, and I'll be like, "Moodan, was it as bad as I remember it being?" And he'll be like, "Nah." I'm like, "Okay, good."

- Yeah, 'cause I have that like every week I have that enjoyment of like a new trash. - I don't know what the fuck we talking about. - A new "Trash Taste" episode goes up and I'm like, I don't remember the, what the fuck I said. I skimmed through it for like the first 30 minutes and I'm just like, damn, I'm about to get fucking flamed for this shit. - All right, all right. Have you had a moment where you said a take on "Trash Taste" and you're like,

- Oh, this is gonna like cause some shit. - All the time. - This is gonna cause some shit. - Every anime take I have. But also like, I realized, I felt like enlightened when I stopped, when I was willing to say those takes and be like, I don't care about the aftermath. It felt like a power and I kind of get it a little bit how these, like almost like how these scumbag YouTubers stay around forever. 'Cause they just don't care. Like they see all these comments that are negative and they just like,

it's so easy to just get to that point where you're like, I actually just don't care. Like thousands of people hate me and I don't give a fuck. - Dude, the moment I finally said on a Trash Taste episode that I think Jesus Kyson is mid, I fell. - Okay, can I call out, not you. I remember one time I was watching a video that was Aki and she was like,

she was talking about a Ghibli movie she didn't like. - Yeah. - And she blurred the movie that she said that she didn't like. - Wait, which one? - It was "My Neighbor Totoro" 'cause I asked her afterwards, I was like, "What was the movie that you didn't like?" And she bleeped what she said 'cause she was so afraid.

- That people would be so angry. - I remember that. - They were so angry at her. - I remember that. - For saying that she didn't like my name, a Totoro. - Meanwhile, God has said multiple times. - And then we look back at it and we're like, how dumb were all of us to think that you couldn't be like, I don't like what you said.

- Okay, concerning that video, I specifically remember telling her- - Being like, "What the fuck? No one gives a fuck." - Being like, "Who the fuck cares?" - It's an opinion. - Yeah, it's an opinion. There's a lot of people who don't like My Neighbor Totoro for multiple reasons. As a fan of My Neighbor Totoro and someone who grew up with it, I don't give a fuck. Like if you don't like it, that's completely understandable. I don't care. - I wonder if that video is still up. It must be still up of her bleeping it. - Probably. - I wanna see it. - It's a very old video. - Yeah, I remember that. - I just remember this conversation with Aki had, I was like,

"I don't think you need to bleep it." She's like, "No, it's just my name is Torey, you don't understand." I was like, "I don't even- - That was during the period where it was like, we didn't know the, I guess the- - The boundaries upon which you could say that you dislike popular media. - I mean, like, okay. So like, I think there's some merits like worrying about that. Like I'm gonna be real here as someone who's talked about like anime for like fucking 10 plus years. - Have you?

- Yeah, like fucking six, like 16 years. - I didn't notice, I didn't notice, Garnt. I had no idea. - Did you notice? - I thought you were talking about Digimon or some shit. - Yeah, I didn't get it. - Do you need me to open the last bottle of wine, guys? - Oh God. - Yeah, like, okay. So negativity on the online space, especially when it comes to like talking about media, you get like,

you get like two, three passes, right? Before people, before like- - Yeah, I actually agree with this. - Genuinely, genuinely negative. Like if you talk negative about something in terms of like, if you're like a big reviewer, you get two, three passes before people are like,

This guy just hates everything. - Yeah, they write you off. - Yeah, they just write you off, right? - I think also in like a small drama perspective as well, I've noticed that you can do two little fuck ups, but when you do too many little fuck ups, people are like, "I just got a bad feeling about him." You know what I mean? And then you kind of lose a lot of trust with people. - Concerning the first part, when it comes to like giving opinions on shit that is not widely accepted, that's my fucking life.

- Well, I made one video saying that maybe sort of online bad. And now I became- - Oh my God, it's the fucking conbini wine, I recognize that. - Yeah, it is. This is the cheap one. We've run out of good wine. - Yeah, sort of online. And the same with me for like, I realized, I was like, man, people give a fuck about this shit. When I spoke about 86 being fucking boring and little babies. - I genuinely like, one of the things I've done or like how I've shifted my channel, like remember the fucking,

angry video game nerd guy with the glasses kind of days where it was like cool to hate on shit. - James Rolfe? - Yeah, I mean like there was a period of the internet where people thought it was really, really cool to hate on shit. And then it suddenly just became like uncool overnight 'cause people just got tired of it. - Well, it's weird because YouTube it is cool, but Twitter it's not. Sorry, YouTube it isn't cool and Twitter it is cool. So it's kind of, it's wherever you want to go. - I mean, it's, I feel like- - Did you say it's uncool on Twitter?

- No, it's cool on Twitter. - Oh, I'm cool on YouTube. - I don't know. It was like back in the day when people would just call out YouTubers for whatever reason. And now I feel like YouTubers have gotten to the point where we're all trying to just make a fucking job out of this. We're all trying to survive. And so when you're like, oh, I want to call out this person. Why? They're a piece of shit. And it's like, okay, but like, what is that going to do? Like you look like the assholes. You're the one aggressing. And so it's like, even if there are scumbag YouTubers out there,

I think a lot of people aren't fucking pushing or trying to expose people anymore. 'Cause it's like, it's kind of like not much benefit to doing it. 'Cause everyone's just trying to make a business. It's like, you know, I'm sure it's like fucking way back in the day when you'd sabotage your fucking competitor and pizza making and you're like, actually it just looks better if everyone just likes pizza more. Let's just not fuck each other over. - Sure. - Yeah, I mean like, it's kind of like people just get tired like of someone who's just really negative and that's why I realized- - Oh, that's pungent.

- Oh, I'm sorry. This is conbini wine now. I've got a last good. - Carry on, carry on. - Yeah. So like, I remember like I made like a conscious decision with my content to like shift it to like, okay, so I'm like,

I know I've gotten like a lot of comments being like, oh, Garnt likes everything. Garnt never shits on a show. And I'm just like, there are shows that are popular that I don't like. I just choose not to like highlight them. It's pretty simple. - What do you get out of shitting on a show? - Yeah, yeah, exactly. - You lose a bit of your audience. - Yeah. - You know, the problem is that,

that video is gonna blow up. 'Cause a lot of people are going to be like, "Yo, he hates on the show, he donks on the show." And you get like- - You should make a One Piece video shitting on the One Piece fans, that'll crush.

- You basically just described my entire career until a couple of years ago. - Yeah, because here's the thing. You get like two or three and like people are with you. And then I've noticed after like a few too many shows that you hate on, even if you're like genuinely like have points, there'll be like, this is just a negative person. - Yeah. - I think for the majority of people who like kind of know me on a surface level, I'm just known as the guy who's like, he hates sort of online. He thinks school days is 10 out of 10. - You do make a lot of video shitting on it.

- No, I made one. - Did you really? - I literally- - In my head I thought that you made so many videos. - See, this is the thing. So many people think I am like the, I hate so online guy. I made one video and it was a parody.

of like my character, VegetaReview69. If you remember, you were an OG. Of like him, like making this like satirical parody on saying like it's the best anime ever, even though I'm shitting on it. And that one video has like labeled me as like, he's the guy that hates so online. I'm like- - Wait, wait, wait. First of all, I've never heard anyone say this about you.

- No, dude, so many people say that about me. - Do you think this is a case of like you see it the most 'cause you're the guy? 'Cause I don't see this. - Maybe. - I've never seen this opinion. - I don't know, but like- - I've seen this opinion. - Yeah. - Oh, okay. - Yeah. - I'm not trying to gaslight you. - No, no, no, no, I get it. Like a lot of people- - Listen, I wanna be the guy that hates "Ocean No Co." It's cringe.

- It's cringe, I'm gonna say it, okay? I don't mind. - He's drunk! - It's cringe. - He's drunk! - Two bottles down, he's finally got the courage to say it. - No, it's cringe, it is. I'll be the hater, I don't mind. No one validates my opinion. - No, no, that's the thing, it's like the moment I say like in one video, I'm like, "Yeah, I think School Days was kind of brilliant."

- Immediately I'm the guy that's like, oh, he thinks school days is 10 out of 10 and everyone knows it's a shit anime. So his opinions are invalid because he doesn't watch anime anymore. And I'm just like, okay, yeah, sure. Like take away all of my opinions from the past like 10 plus years of like watching anime. - I mean, that's it's like, I constantly have to bot.

'Cause you have to battle between stuff that, let's say I watch a show and I don't like it. I constantly have to battle between like, how much do I highlight a show that,

I was not a fan of versus like I've taken like the content. - I never noticed you had been positive throughout your videos, but now it makes a lot of sense. - Yeah, I mean like I'm not positive. - See Garnt does it in a smart way. - Yeah, you do. - That doesn't mean I like everything. - But you don't shit on it. - No, no, no, no. Like here's the thing, here's the thing. - Except for Nooski's dog, whatever. - Yes.

I just highlight the stuff that I like. I don't like, I don't shit on the stuff that I don't like. Like it's not that I'm afraid of shitting on it. I just want more like, it's like a kind of like a shift to be like, I just want more coverage on the stuff that

- That makes sense. - Rather than just covering shit. - Why waste your breath on the dog shit? - You did it in a smart way where like you decided to not go against the norm, to go against the norm rather and just cover stuff that you are actually passionate about, you actually enjoyed. Whereas during that same period in the like mid to late 2010s, especially in the energy community, it was like almost a trend to be like,

"Hey, let's watch-" - Well, that was a trend on YouTube. - Yeah, like, "Let's watch this shit thing and dissect on why it fucking sucks." And I admit, I was fully involved in that movement. And in a lot of respects, I got big because of that. - I mean, it's easier to...

- And you can look at this from the game reviewers, 'cause some game reviewers do top 10 games of the year, top 10 worst games of the year. You'd always see the worst games of the year one would do so much better on YouTube. - Oh, of course. - It does. - Because people just love negativity. - Yeah, absolutely. - Here's the thing. - I don't wanna hear someone tell me about what the best game was. I know what the best game was. Tell me about the shittest game. - Exactly. - I mean, it's like negative opinions is like the easy way to get views. - Yeah, absolutely. - Which is why I was just like,

Not that I was like, I'm against easy views. I'm just like, I just want to focus on the things that I do fucking like, 'cause my life is happier if I do. So I'm like, here's a big tell about if I don't like something or if I don't like a show, I just don't talk about it. Like that's like the biggest tell. I just don't talk about it. - This man built it. - I think that's because you've had the,

- Fortunate nature of starting very early, being able to build an audience and a reputation for being reliable. And now you're at that point. I think if somebody had started again from Garnt style today, I think they'd struggle. - That is scripted content, that's not Trash Taste. Trash Taste, I will talk about shit I don't like until the sun goes fucking down. - Would you agree that if Garnt had started today doing a similar style, it would be a lot tougher?

- I don't think so. I think if I started today, I would go for a different approach, a different style. - Yeah. - It's okay. So yeah, like,

to me in terms of like making content, you always got to make something that someone isn't already doing better. And the problem if I started today is I'm already making my content, right? - The only enemy is me. - Not the only enemy is me. Like I've done a lot. I've done a lot. I've put my mind to it.

I put many years making like my style of content. So if I started again, I'd probably make a completely different style of content. Still anime, but just a different style of content. - Do you think it's, oh sorry, go on. - No, I was just asking like how would it be different? - Okay, so if I started now, I'd probably be making stuff on more like theory and like kind of like that style of content. - Don't do that.

- Everyone does that. - Power scale? - Don't do that. - Not power scale. I would, okay, here's the thing. Here's what I would do. A lot of people are making theory kinds of content, but I would try to find a way to make that kind of content that,

is not like totally saturated, you know? - There's a lot of that. - Yeah, there is a lot of that kind of like theory kind of content and that's very, very popular right now. I feel like there is a kind of like gap to be like, here is some really,

I don't wanna give everything away in case I- - I mean, you could honestly do that now. - I have a question. In every single YouTube genre, there are multiple people who are crushing it and doing well. Why does it feel like in anime, you have been the guy and there's not been much else happening? Like there are some YouTubers- - 'Cause anime doesn't make money.

- Yeah, I guess that's why. - Is that the simple truth? Is that why? - That is the simple truth. - That's why I quit. - There are some of the big YouTubers who talk about anime. There definitely are. But there's no one I feel that has been at your level and I feel like that's super rad for YouTube. - Yeah, I will answer this because I know this now that I've met other YouTubers in my field, other massive YouTubers. Considering, looking at this from a business perspective. - It's terrible.

I, as a purely anime YouTuber, I'm making like fucking crumbs compared to YouTubers my level, my subscriber, my view count. So if I'm like the top anime YouTuber, what does that mean about- - There's no incentive to grow. - Yeah, what does that say about a lot of people trying to like find their footing in my field? - Yeah, I mean, I think a lot of talented people who covered anime initially

pivoted out of it like John and you, oh yeah, you, me. I think a lot of creators realized early on that like, I can't just be about anime.

And so, I mean, like Johnny, I think is a prime example of that. John is such a talented storyteller. Super. Yeah. So good at making videos. So good at telling a story. I think it's the, one of the best things that ever happened is that on YouTube, he just stopped talking about anime as much. Yeah. Cause I love his videos. He makes great videos about stuff that he just likes.

even if I don't care about his wrestling videos sometimes, sorry, John, I still watch him. - Dude, I still watch his wrestling videos. - Yeah. - Because it's fucking John. - I don't give a fuck about wrestling, but John- - I don't either until I watch the video and I'm like, okay, I care now. - Yeah. And so I think he does a great job. And I think, yeah, I think a lot of anime YouTubers realize early on or at some point they're like, hold on, I can take everything I've learned

from this and just apply it to a more general purpose and probably succeed a little bit more. - Yeah, well, that's exactly what I did. Like I kind of got to the point where I for one personally was kind of getting like,

of making anime content because of how repetitive it was and kind of how in like non-innovative it was, you know, because there's only so many like creative ways that you can make and like purely anime content, right? And obviously there are people like Garnt and you know, other people who can still do content like that and it'd be fucking amazing. But,

Me personally, I realized like, okay, I do like this whole anime thing, but at the same time, there are also other elements, especially about Japanese culture that I have a massive passion for and I wanna explore those a little bit more. - You're so native and Japanese. It's such a waste to be just talking about anime all the time.

- Exactly, and that's why like- - So you should be covering more stuff that takes advantage of your ability. - Exactly, and that's why I've been doing more of those interview videos and kind of covering Japanese news and kind of using that skill that I never was aware of that I had.

to be to my advantage. - I would kill for your ability in Japanese. I think I'd be able to make such different videos, but I'll never ever, even if I got fluent, it's like, I'd still never be the same level that would allow me to open up those doors and at the same age as well. That would make it interesting. But I think one thing that we've done really well is that we go for different angles into the same, even if we do the same topic, we go through different angles. - Why don't you make more world's content?

There's no demand. There's no one cares. I think honestly there's ways I could do it. - Yeah. - There's some videos. - There's some angles I could explore. - Yeah. - Okay, you say that, but on my second channel, like a couple of months ago, I made a video just as a test of top 10 Australian,

musical bands that are underrated in my opinion. That video had 20,000 views. It fucking fought. - No, I think there's a way I could tell a story in a way, but it would have to be so well done. And I have to put so much work into it that it like, you kind of forget that when you live somewhere, you're like, okay, I kind of have to make content around this area. And if I want to expand new content in other countries,

That's a huge commitment. Especially if we're talking about the level of quality that we'd need to be able to make something that people would actually watch. - Yeah, absolutely. - Like, I don't know. There's certainly some fun video ideas. - There must be some cool content. - Yeah, like I watch videos about farm dudes just being a farmer. And I like that. I think it's fun. It's great. But like, what would I add?

I need to make more of an in-depth story if it warranted me going out there. And even then it's like, okay, what am I, what would I talk about? - I feel like it's cool if you can show off, you know, some of the fucking culture that you grew up in and like you have an opportunity. It's tough, you know, it's tough, but I would like to, I would personally like- - Yeah, I mean you would, but I think a lot of people wouldn't. It's not sensational enough for YouTube. - It's the vocal minority, right? - But I knew right away when I was getting into YouTube and I started making some,

- Basically enough money to start looking at this like, okay, I can maybe at some point pay rent soon. That's when I kind of decided, I was like, I gotta change it up. I gotta figure out how to- - Yeah, good thing you're not the Sebastian guy anymore.

I wouldn't be here if I was a superstar. Are you fucking kidding me? But like, you know, one thing that I've always had a lot of conversations with a lot of YouTubers is when they want to change up their content, they want results like that. They want to change and they want it to be done. I'm like, dude, it took me like a year and a half, two years. It doesn't happen like that. To transition off that. Yeah, absolutely. Like that's not a quick process. Like you've given-

If you want to gain an audience whilst also keeping the audience you have happy, you can say fuck it to your audience. You can be like, fuck them. I'm going to make new stuff. I'll find a new audience. You can do that. And that's a legit strategy, but you've got to be okay with bombing for a while. Yeah. But it can't work and creators have done it.

But I was more so concerned, and I think a lot of creators are, they're like, I want to keep the numbers going, but transition it. And that took like two years of making weird shit that was very in between and still including Sebastian content, but trying to get people to... Yeah, experimental stuff. I was like, let's watch me...

voice act an anime character while wearing that character's costume and playing a game that requires me to control the volume. That was a video idea I had and I made and I don't know why. But I think it did okay at the time. I think for me, weirdly, the turning point where it really kicked off was the cosplay videos. Remember those videos I used to do? Yeah, I remember those. I remember those. Those videos used to crush. And this is the first time I ever had videos that really did really well. And it was just me putting on dumb fucking costumes.

And I was like, okay, here we go. This is like, finally, I found a series that uses anime in a creative way without relying on any, me actually getting into the IP. And that really like allowed me to make these other videos that really did well. And that was kind of what changed everything for me. - Why'd you stop them? - I mean, I guess I haven't really stopped them, but.

I kind of felt like they were done. I just felt like it was over. I felt like there was nothing more I could do and anything else I would do was kind of arbitrary to the street. I bought a bunch more, so I have more. But they're from like a year ago.

So I could wear them. I think they're like chainsaw man stuff. - Yeah. - And I could wear it and it could work and it could be a funny video, but I just, I don't know. I just feel like it kind of run its course. I don't know, but I'm- - Well, I feel like over that year, your standards of what is suitable for the main channel is definitely changing. - You say that, but I'm just bashing out crane games. So like who's really, but the problem is the crane game videos crush. People love them. - Yeah. - They do really well. And also the easiest part is that they're easy to film.

because a lot of the videos that we do with like Kaho or we do whatever, it's like, we just take too long. - Yeah. - It takes so long to make and the crane game videos I can call up the places that I filmed at and be like, "Hey, can I come film?" And they're like, "Yeah." So I just do it. It's really easy and it's a great way to do more collaboration 'cause I miss doing collaboration. - Yeah. - And so it's kind of like, all right, well, I guess I'm the crane game guy now. - Yeah. - Also I like doing it. It's fun, it's chill. - Yeah, it works man. - I care about the live streaming stuff more, which is like,

- He's a, he's a, he's a, he's a Twitch streamer now. - I'm a Twitch streamer whose side hobby is YouTube, which is so weird because it's like, I had, I spent like seven years of my life dedicated to this one idea and this one thing and this one concept. And then I'm like, yeah, actually, you know what? Fuck it, I'ma change.

- Hey man, if that satisfies you, then I say go for it. - Creatively, I think it's better. And I think the one thing that I like most about making live content and maybe you guys are starting to appreciate this more is that when you're done, you turn the stream off, you're done.

That's it, it's over. - I mean, that's just me doing trash taste and every other kind of content. I have grown very jealous for you guys to be able to like turn on a camera or like go to a filming session and like having like a blocking your calendar that is like, okay, after the calendar, after the camera's off, I'm done. - Yeah, I mean, there's that obviously, but I was really getting tired of the post-production aspect of it.

- Oh yeah? - And having to deal with, if we film somewhere, you know, maybe they wanna have the look at the video and they wanna change a ton of things that are really minute and don't matter, but they care about it for some reason. And then, you know, you're like, okay, well now- - Oh, that's why I don't do videos that warrant that. - Yeah, bro, like- - It's tough, you know, I feel that,

I was just getting really burnt out with the post-production in Japan and having to go through the videos and make them good. And I just didn't have a talent for it. Like I would talk to Chris and Chris would sometimes be like, man, that video was bad. And I was like, I know it's bad, but I don't know how the fuck to make it better. I'm shit at this. This video was tough and I think I would need to be better at what I do. And I think I've gotten a lot better now, but I was really like not good at it for a very long time. And I still don't think I'm good, but I'm getting better.

And I just don't enjoy it as much. I get so much more excited about an idea when it's live. So I just kind of lean towards that now. - Yeah, I mean, your personality is definitely like going towards that. Like for me, I've really, really fucking missed scripted content after I've been doing like live streams and like second channel and trash station stuff. - You can tell such different stories. - Yeah, but then I'm like, I sit down and like, what I don't miss is waking up some days and I'm like, I'm gonna get,

X amount of words done in my scripts. And you wake up and you get the sentence done and you're like,

fuck today was a write-off, you know? Today was a write-off, right? 'Cause like some days you wake up and you're like, I am writing like a fucking machine. And some days you wake up and you're like, I cannot think of anything. - That's what I like about streaming, right? Like even if it's like- - That's what I like about it as well. - I'll do a 13 hour stream and I'll feel like, fuck I went through the fucking gauntlet. But at least I could have, like I didn't fucking procrastinate a day away, which I easily could do when I was a YouTuber mainly. You know, because the one benefit I liked is that I used to upload weekly, but I used to be able to make

I used to be able to make like a month's worth of videos and like, I really wanted to, I could make it in like a week and a half. - Oh no. - Like some serious grinding. - Yeah. - And then I kind of disappear and no one knew. - Yeah. - I kind of liked that. But also I realized that

I was also creatively, I was not improving as a creator because I wasn't taking that time to really focus on how to improve my content and how to become a better creator. - Yeah, like I've definitely felt that with my second channel where I'm like, I am a month and a half ahead and I've done that just by being live. And I'm like, it feels good to be, to shut off the stream and be like, my job is done. But then I kind of miss,

- I for a long time, I've missed the scripted content and I was like making different kinds of content. And I'm like, I can do this for a certain amount of time. After a while, I'm like, my mind goes to like mush and I'm like, I can't do this. - Well, every year I get ahead a little bit on the second channel. Cause I normally stream more than I would do. And I like to stream content stuff. And we get ahead on the second channel. I'm like, "Mudan, it's December.

upload every day every other day he's like are you sure I'm like let's do it let's get the ad rev so we upload because you know I also want you know it's a lot of work but I also want I want because we share the money so I wanted I want to move down to this boys to get paid well as well I was like let's just go ham in December let's go crazy and then we end up in January with like one video he's like oh Connor oh

more videos right now. And I'm like, oh, I'm away for two weeks. I'm like, oh, I'll think of something. And we're scrambling. But it's nice 'cause you're never too far behind the videos. - I gotta ask, how did you guys learn how to manage people?

because I've realized, 'cause I work closely with my editor, Adam, and a lot of other people. My corporate experience was so fucking valuable for me to be like, okay, there's a structured system to manage someone and communicate. - I think for me, 'cause I've hired a lot of people now doing various stuff. I think we're at that point now with work in general where,

I know what I need to what I need them to do for it to make sense for me to keep hiring them yeah right so I have a set amount of things I need them to do and if they do it I don't give a fuck if they slack off for 10 hours or they don't work one week yeah as long as in that month everything I care about that gets done gets done yeah and so you know I I'm just frank with them I I tell a lot of my employees that I work with I'm like hey I don't give a fuck what you do

As long as what I ask you to do gets done, and I'll never be unreasonable. Anti-Japanese sentiment. Pretty much. Hey, you can play... The West is sentiment. You can go and play TFT or osu! for 12 hours a day. Yeah. As long as in those, you cram in those four hours and you get the thing done and it's done well. Yeah. And so I'm pretty chill. Like, I'm...

whether it's a good or a bad thing, I don't know. I think it works well with some people. It doesn't work well with others. Because I can't be there to like, I don't have a manager who's working with me. It's just me. I hire people and I work with them because I like to have that relationship. But I don't have the ability to be hands-on every single day. And I'm not going to have a meeting every week. Like, I'm just like, I'll leave you to it. You do your thing. Here's what I'm going to ask for. And I'll keep spamming you about stuff. And yeah, and then it normally works out.

And I think just having that kind of relationship where you both trust each other is very important. It takes a while to get there, but once you get it, it's invaluable. Like that's worth more than anything I think in terms of, you know, it's like, hey, I got you, you got me. We're good. - Totally agree. - Yeah. - I mean, you started your own fucking company, man. Look at you, CEO, man.

- Big boy. - Big boy. I probably sound really condescending right now. - What a little baby boy. - Oh, what a little baby boy. - The big baby boy is now a CEO. - I'm fucking proud of you, man. - Being adult is realizing you need help and what that means.

- Yeah. - And figuring out how to integrate that into your life. - Yeah, I think for me, like doing the whole like clothing company thing, like I think I got very lucky with people who I'm surrounded with in terms of like the company. 'Cause like, I think it's a matter of like- - What's, okay go on.

- No, I was about to say like- - I'm an idiot, I should interrupt you mid sentence. Like a fucking toddler, 'cause I have a thought. Carry on. - I think it's this whole idea of like, I got very blessed with having hired and meeting people who are now responsible for the company who are just way more competent than I am.

- Well, yeah. - Who are like just on top of this shit, very professional. Like they're still like, you know- - I think you hire good people and you figure out the job afterwards. - Absolutely. Like, I think it's a matter of like, you know, I think it's all about like, do you have the pulling power to be able to hire people who are more competent than you? I think that's like the best- - Are you not competent? - Dude, compared to my like, dude, I had nonsense for example, my brand manager and my head designer,

infinitely more competent than I am. Like I would just straight up admit that like they, those guys are like everything good you're seeing out of the nonsense right now is because of those guys. - What's the end goal with nonsense? What are you feeling about? - End goal is to just be able to like do. - You must have had a vision when you started it, right? - Yeah, I mean, obviously for me, it's just like, you know, I'm like my end goal with nonsense is

is to get to the point where I could be walking the streets of wherever the fuck I am. And I will see someone who walks past me wearing a nonsense shirt and they don't know who I am. - Why is that what you want? - Because it's- - What? - What'd you say? - I'm going ADHD mode. I was just like, I would like to walk the streets of anywhere. And I was like, North Korea. - Leave it in, leave it in. - Leave it in.

But I wanna get to the point Blake, like for me, because like I've been so, I guess like weirdly reliance on like the whole Anime Man brand at this point that like, you know, as of right now- - So it's a mixture of wanting to branch out but also have a more of a long lasting effect. - Exactly, like I wanna get to the point where like obviously right now, because you know, our company's like just a year old at this point, right? Like we started in June last year. - Jesus Christ, I feel like it's like two.

- Yeah, we only started June last year, right? And so it's a very young company. And obviously the majority of the people who are buying my clothes are people who know me or like no trash case. - You are at the point where it's not that. - Yeah, I wanna get to the point where it's just like people who just think the clothes are fucking cool and I wanna wear those clothes regardless of who it comes from or what the origins are can wear it and just get to the point where like, again, I could be walking the streets of anywhere in the world

I see someone wearing a Nonsense T-shirt and they have no fucking idea who I am. I think that's the point. Like, I just wanna make cool shit regardless of where I currently am socially standing, right? Like, so, and you know, obviously like, I also wanna like, you know, just like make cool shit through that company regardless of what it is.

'cause I've always had that like, you know, dream to do so. But like, as of right now, at least my short term goal is to just like kind of expand the brand out to the point where you don't necessarily have to be a fan of me to be able to buy my clothes. - Yeah, that's a good idea. - And you know, that's very difficult right now, obviously, you know, kind of branching out from where you currently are to a wider audience, but we're doing our best to try and get to that point. And hopefully next couple of years we'll get to that point. - Yeah.

- Why do you sound like John Wick? - Yeah, sorry. I was trying to say. - Sorry, what did you interrupt me on? - That was it. I was like, what's the goal? What's the end goal with nonsense? - How long do you think Trash Chase is gonna last?

- Wow, we're getting to that point? - Yeah, we're getting to that point. Three bowls of wine in, why not? Why not? - I'm just saying. - Okay, what do you think the end of Trash Taste looks like? - What do I think the end of Trash Taste looks like? - Do you think it's one of us moving on? Do you think it's we all agree? - I have a kid. - You have a kid? - Yeah. - You don't? The kid needs money, Garnt. You gotta be here every goddamn week. You gotta stop the output. - Okay, okay, okay.

I say that in like half jest because I'm like, to me, like the big kind of like turning point for me is I don't think I'm gonna stop being friends with you guys after I have a kid, but I'm like, - Hey guys, Steven was born. - Yeah, I am, fuck you, I'm done. - I have a priority now and it's not you guys. - But like when I have a kid, that's like, to me, that's like a commitment, you know? I wanna, not,

- You can't hang out with us anymore? - No, no, no, no. - What the fuck? - Okay, so- - You can't come to work every week? - So like, you must've gotten the question being like, how long do you see yourself in Japan? - Yeah, all the time. - Yeah, how long do you see yourself in Japan? And to me that kind of like crossroads.

- Sorry? - Yes, I think at the moment, I think any of us leave Japan, it's gonna be, I imagine there'll be a conversation like, how do we keep it going? And then it'll be like, is it worth continuing? How do we end it? Yada, yada, yada. - Hold that thought 'cause I got to piss. - Okay. - Well, we just keep talking. - Yeah, we'll just keep talking. - We'll just keep talking. - Yeah. - I think it's valid. I think that's it. I think pretending like Trash Taste is gonna be a forever thing is dumb. - Yeah. - And I think thinking about it is wise. - Yeah, I mean like Trash Taste is like a great thing, a fun thing.

- Every show's gotta end. - Yeah, every show. - Except "Grey's Fucking Anatomy" and "Law and Order" which will never end. - I wanna end on a bang. I don't wanna whimper into like a fucking- - Is that the PodTaku side of you talking? - No, I wanted PodTaku to get even fucking bigger. - And it could have. - Which it could have and I will stick by that to this day. But it's great 'cause I have trash taste now.

- Less people to split the share. - I'm kidding. I'm fucking with you. - No, I just want us to make something cool. But like, no, to me like, kid, when I have a kid, they are gonna be top priority.

- You're not gonna wanna, ideally. - Oh, we're fucking hosts. - Yeah, yeah, yeah. - Raising a kid in Japan is. - Yeah, as they should be. There's enough people in the world that have a kid and treat them like a toy or even like a pet. They treat a pet more like a toy than like a commitment to raise this kid right. And I'm like, I don't wanna be that parent.

So, you know, that's like to me when I decided to have a kid, that's gonna be like the commitment, whether I wanna settle down in Japan, whether I think Japan is the best place to raise a kid, I'm still like up in the air about, but like they are going to take top priority for me. - Yeah, I guess that's the question I have for you too. 'Cause like, I think in my mind I have a pretty- - You're gonna be here forever.

- I'm probably gonna be here for the rest of my life. - Yeah, you're Japanese though, Joey. - Yeah, I'm probably gonna be here for the rest of my life. - You're Nihonjin, Dash. - Yeah, Nihonjin. - Yeah, but you know, like if Gaijin's being here for like decades has proven anything, like it's not impossible for like complete foreigners to be here for the rest of their life. It's all about a mentality statement. - My ideal scenario is that I've got an insane boatload of cash and,

- I can live between the two countries to my will. - Wait, UK and Japan? - Yeah, like I can't ever see myself living there. - That's one question I wanted to know is that like, do you guys- - I would love to have that thing of like, I fancy being in, you know, maybe I live in the UK, but I'm like, I fancy two months in Japan. I go to my-

fucking mansion I have in Japan. I order Sebastian to come over and clean the dust 'cause I haven't been here in six months. But the ideal is that I wouldn't have to care about having a fucking house in there and whatever. I just live between the two. But obviously that's a stupid amount of money and time and whatever. 'Cause I think even if I leave Japan, I think there'll be a part of me that loves Japan dearly and will wanna be here ever.

- Okay, here's the question I have. What's your guys' end goal? - Dude, I don't got an end goal. I just wanna create stuff right now. That's where I'm at. - You just wanna create stuff and hope it lasts forever? - Not even forever. I think being creative is a momentary thing. I think not everyone gets to be an artist that gets to survive generations. - Of course, yeah. - I think just making stuff that keeps people happy for a little while is more than enough. - I've reached my end goal.

- I've reached my end goal. - You got married? - I got married. I have given my parents a stable life.

which is all I wanted to do. That's the end goal for me quitting my job to do YouTube. - See, that's why my man is a fucking wholesome boy. That's why he's the guy, bro. - I'm here talking about fucking Scrooge McDuck. And you're like, I am content. - I will not die until I swim in a pool of my money. - So I'm not gonna retire tomorrow, but I'm like,

- I'm satisfied. - But you need to do something. You can't let off. - No, no, that's the thing. - You probably have some things where you're just like, "I still haven't done that yet." - Yeah, I have big projects that I really, really wanna do that I'm working on right now. But in terms of like,

my end goal and going down to like fucking just like what I did this for originally. - Yeah. - I reached that and I'm like very, very happy to have done that. So now I'm just like, even if the stuff I do in the future fails, I'm like, I've already done what I wanted to do. I'm a very simple man, which is why I'm just like, I am content, which is why

As long as the people around me are happy, no matter what, I'll be happy. - Yeah, hell yeah. - That's just me. That's what's up. That's me being fucking drunk. - I mean, I saw like a Twitter post. It was like, there is no benefit to being a good human being. - Wait, who said that? - It was on Twitter. It was doing very well. And it was like, well, yeah, I mean, technically we're talking about like how you advance and manipulate. Yeah, of course there's nothing inherently beneficial to being,

good to people, but your entire worth as a human being, when you realize, hey, helping people feels great. Being a part of someone's journey, getting involved helps a lot. It's easy to be skeptical, but I think being successful means being able to help those around you and help them unconditionally and get something very powerful.

- I'm respecting for respect for you for doing all the fucking charity stuff. - I appreciate it. Well, I mean, that was like, that was something that kind of, you know, I wasn't like, I consciously decided to do it. I wish I could be benevolent and be like, yeah, of course I wanted to do it. You know, it just turned out that the things all lined up, you know, it kind of, I found a good cause. You know, I felt like I really wanted to help mouse in that aspect. And you know, I felt like,

you know, I think it's safe to say we've all three of us have made a good amount of money. Like, I feel like we're doing okay. Like we're good. Like I, I'm fine monetarily. Like I don't need to make X amount of money a month. I could, I'm fine for, for a good little while. Like I can't live with the rest of my life, but like in this very moment with the amount of making, I'm good. So I was like, I just kind of looked and I was like,

it just makes no more sense to do anything for me. It felt like there wasn't much sense to do projects that were for profit. Also let's make something creative, maybe make a little bit of money on the side, but let's make the main focus making money for good causes. - Yeah. - Yeah. Because like why the fuck not? - Yeah, absolutely. - Like let's just like, I just, for me it felt like the right thing to do. And I get it that not for everyone it doesn't feel that way.

And I would never pressure any creators into doing any charity stuff. 'Cause like, I feel like if your heart's not in it, you shouldn't do it. - Yeah. - Obviously it still helps voluntarily, but like, I think if you really, really, really wanna get people invested. - Yeah. - And raise money and get people involved, I think you gotta be, your heart's gotta be in it. - Yeah. - And I think that was the problem I had before is that like, I just didn't feel there was a charity

that I really connected with. There was a few that I liked the idea of, but I mean, we all like charity and we all like the idea of it, but let's be real. A lot of us don't care. Like a lot of us aren't connected to it. And I think rightfully so, we all care about how the fuck we're doing. A lot of us are struggling. I think a lot of the viewers at home are not doing too well or you're going through something. And I think it's totally valid to care about what you're going through and what you're doing.

But I think when you get to a point financially where you're very stable, you have to kind of be like, all right, there's gotta be more to it. There's gotta be more to what I'm doing. And there's gotta be a way I can give back. And I think doing that is very important when you have a platform. I really, really mean that. - I mean, I totally agree with you. I'd say when I was younger, I would probably

would probably be- - You hear about Red Nose Day or these charities or whatever it is. - I would probably be the type of person that would like that tweet that you saw. - Yeah, me too. - You know what I mean? - Me five years ago. - Edgy fucking teenager being like- - Because there are merits. You will climb a lot faster if you don't carry those feelings. - Honestly, you look at some of the people now that are successful and you're like, these are all horrible people. And what has society taught us? That horrible people- - Climb.

- Climb. - Climb. If you wanna be successful, you be the loudest and you be the person who shouts the loudest and you will get attention. And most of the time you'll be successful. And I'm like, okay, well that's how society is like.

That's how society is like structured at least right now where the people who shout loudest get the most attention and the people who get the most attention normally now make the most money. That's not always the sense, but it is- - I mean, more views, more money. - Yeah, more views, more money. - And I think that it's unfortunate that charity is kind of, I mean, I feel like almost,

- I don't know if this is true, but it feels like creators do less stuff about charity now than ever. I don't know why I feel that way. - I will tell you why. Because by doing charity,

- Okay, look at someone like Mr. Beast, for example. Okay, I generally think Mr. Beast is doing something positive for the world, but by getting a lot of eyes on you, by doing something positive, you are actually putting yourself at risk. - That's so fucked up. - Because it's fucked up that even if you do something like,

net positive goods, people will try to poke holes and people will try to find like nefarious. - Yeah, he's like, oh, he's just doing it for attention or, you know, he's doing it because he wants to make himself look like a good person. - Which you can't deny that there is an aspect of that. Like there is an aspect of,

doing something good gets your attention. - Absolutely, yeah, yeah. - For sure, yeah. We all have those celebrities that we feel are very disingenuous. - Yeah, exactly. But it sucks that when you try to do something good, sometimes that gives you more attention and more eyes on you and more people criticizing you because you are trying to do something good for the world as opposed to,

doing something for profit or doing something to boost yourself. - I firmly believe that every creator who's well off should be doing charity stuff at least once a year or something. But I also understand that that motive of, yeah, like you said, you get too big from doing it and whatnot. I think the hard part is that, and I realized this through myself is that it's hard.

to really sell a charity to your viewers if there's not some kind of personal story there. And it kind of sucks. Mm-hmm.

But like, you know, when you see these ads about, oh, every five seconds a kid dies or something. And we're so desensitized. We are so fucking desensitized. And then we, you know, and that was because that was a tactic for a very long time. And I imagine it worked at some point, but it doesn't work anymore. We just don't care. And I think it's fair to say that's where we're at. And so I think as creators,

there needs to be some kind of personal connection, but it's kind of tough because obviously maybe we're all young and we don't have these connections to X charity because we don't have any experience with them. So I think as a creator, you need to almost look for a cause to kind of be passionate about and get excited about. Also your viewership will also appreciate that you're excited about

raising money for a good cause. - Our viewers are very, very smart. If you do not care about something- - They can tell. - Yeah, they can tell. - You guys are smart. - Not to be like that dick, but like, you know, occasionally there'll be a thing and not to be like this charity, but this does happen a lot. Like there'll be like people like cancer research. You're like, okay, yeah, all right, I get it. Like that's a very, very, very common disease. It takes a lot of lives. But I think to a lot of people that seems almost disingenuous because it's kind of like,

You don't have a personal story. And it sucks. It has to be the case. But I think for people, there almost needs to be a personal story or a connection to sell people on why you care so much about this. I think almost picking some generic stuff, you know, even though like...

sometimes you see like mental health stuff. It's like, oh, it's almost too broad reaching sometimes. And I think it's kind of tough because we're in this age now where you're almost pressured into caring too much about a subject or a specific kind of illness. And I've learned that a lot through working with what I've been doing. I've learned that having that

really specific story has been very, very good for getting people involved and caring about it. Which sucks 'cause if maybe if I cared about it and I didn't have a personal connection, I might not been able to sell people as much, right? - Do you know what sucks about that? Because I've gone through like this very similar thing where I'm aware it's just like, I have these- - You wanna do something. - I have these certain things that I care about that has affected my family and shit like that. But I've like, for example,

I've never talked about it on Trash Taste because it's very like personal thing. I've never kind of like, you know, really talked about it publicly. So I know to like an audience is just gonna like come out left field, you know? And it's just like, it sucks that when you are doing something good like charity, you need to prove that you care about this stuff. - I mean, I think it's 'cause there's so many disingenuous scenarios. - Yeah, yeah. - People don't care. - And that's the fucking issue where there is so many like,

bad eggs in the world that try to take advantage of people, try to like take advantage and do whatever to make themselves look good. That it's just made it so much harder to actually like try to do good in this world. Holy shit, we are so drunk because this is a deep fucking talk right now. - All right, we're only two and a half bottles of wine in. - PTSD.

- Charity. - Okay. - Support your local charities. - Joey, do the outro 'cause I need to pee. - Okay, support your local charities, be a good person, respect your elders and fuck them hoes. Hey, look at all these patrons though.

- See you later guys, I'm gonna call a taxi home. - Look at all these patrons. That's fucking crazy. By the way, if you guys wanna see another drunk episode of Trash Taste, then feel free to smash the like button. - I can't handle this. - Smash the like button 'cause I'm totally down for this shit. - What are they asking me, Joey? The Japanese cab is asking me questions. - It says, "Nihongo Jozu, yes or no?" - Wait, let me see that. - The one Kanji I couldn't read was the context.

Everyone know my opinion? I don't give a fuck. Fuck them. Yeah.

- Yeah, don't answer. Hey, if you wanna see more Trash Taste episodes like this, hey, fuel alcoholism by following us on Patreon. - Don't do that. - But patreon.com/trashtaste. Also follow us on Twitter, send us some memes on the subreddit, and if you haven't had a face, listen to us on Spotify. I don't even know if I said that correctly. - Oh, Jesus Christ. - One of us is away, the other one is burping up a storm, and we will see you guys in the next episode of Shit Taste. - Oh, Jesus Christ. - All right, see you guys later.

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