The BOIS go to HAWAII | Trash Taste #147
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- Welcome back to another episode of Trash Taste. I'm Connor and I'm with the boys as usual, Joey and Garnt. That's them, they're the boys. - That's them. - We need to learn how to podcast again 'cause it's been the first time we've been in the studio for like-

- Well, we never left, but in real life we did leave to a lot of different places. - We went off like five weeks. - It's been a long time since we've been in the podcast studio. - I've been to America twice. - You did? - Oh yeah, you did. - 'Cause Hawaii is America. - Yeah, true. - Cycled all across Kyushu. - I always forget. - Oh my God. - I always forget Hawaii is America.

- Yeah, yeah. - I forgot about that until, well, I knew about that, but for some reason- - I would hope so. - Yeah, yeah, I knew, but like for some reason there was always this like mental gap where Hawaii is Hawaii, even though like it's, you know, an American state. I still always felt that Hawaii is its own separate thing in my mind, even though it's not. And then I went, and then we went to Hawaii and I'm like, oh, this is actually America. Okay, this is actually America.

- Yeah, we just went to Hawaii for KauaiCon, which was very, very fun. It was mine and first Connor's trip to Hawaii. - How was it? - It was all right.

- Hawaii's nice, Hawaii's definitely a good place. - I should never ask a British person if something's good or not. The answer would just be anything. - It's like Disneyland for adults. If you ever go to Hawaii, you just kind of feel like the, instead of like, you know, when you go to certain parts in like Spain, they'll have like a resort. Just seems like the whole island or at least that part of the city. - Well, especially Waikiki. - It's just turned into like a resort for,

people with too much money and want to drink alcohol. - Wasn't it something like, I think you or someone was telling me. - We had a cameraman for something and the cameraman who lived there for like 30 years, he told me that Hawaii, this is bullshit, we might need to fact check this. He told me that Hawaii has 1 million people who live on it. - Like locals. - Yeah, people who live there. But at any given time, there's 10 million people on the island, which would imply that it's like a ratio of like,

- It's like Tokyo. - Yeah, it's a lot of tourists. But most of them stay in where we were, which was like Waikiki, which I guess is the touristy part. It's basically like, yeah, it feels like a Disneyland, but for adults who wanna go to the beach. - Kai, were they cabin or? - No, 6.7 million visitors compared to 1.4 million residents. - So it's like five to one, which is still insane considering-

- Which that means like when you're looking, you're walking around or driving, like you're almost always looking at a tourist without realizing it. - Especially if you're in like Waikiki, which we were for the most part. - I was all tourists. - Yeah, yeah, yeah. I mean, I would have liked to explore more of the other islands because like Hawaii was like incredible, but I think my mental image of Hawaii before going did not add up to the image that I landed in. - What was your mental image of Hawaii initially?

- I don't know. - More island-like? - Yeah, maybe a bit more island-like, maybe a bit closer to nature or stuff like that. I've traveled to different tropical islands before. And obviously there have been big cities on some of these islands, but nothing that really compared to Waikiki.

kind of felt like Connor said, it was kind of like a theme park. I landed and I'm like, oh shit, it's spring break 24/7 every day of the year. That's kind of what it felt like. - Felt bad for the locals, they have to deal with that shit. - Yeah. - I'm sure that's what a show tour feels like to the locals that live there, right? - Yeah, probably. - It's pretty much the same. - Yeah, I mean, I'm British. I was like, yeah, it's all right.

I'm not a big beach guy. Not a fan of beaches. - That's why he's so white. - I honestly, I gotta avoid that shit. - You're blending into that shirt, dude. - I normally stay away from beaches.

- Why, okay, why are you not a beach person? That's what I've always wanted to know. 'Cause you've said this- - Sand sucks. Sand actually is the worst feeling thing known to man. - Are you Luke Skywalker? - I think that people mock that scene and I thought he's right. Like I thought, sand is like just something that I despise and when I'm on it, I can't relax. - So would you prefer it?

if it was a pebble beach, a rock beach. - No, I don't want any beach. - Let's all get sand into this. Sand is its own separate thing. - I like scuba diving. - Wait, were you literally not a lifesaver at one point in your life? - Yeah, I was at a pool. - Yeah. - Oh, you're in a pool. - I love swimming. I love scuba diving. But I hate the idea of like, oh, the ocean's aight. - Ocean, mid. - I just like, if we could have like,

just the pool kind of set up, but for all of the ocean, like I can climb out and I can be done. - That is the most privileged thing you've said in a long time. - I've said a lot of privileged things. - I know. It has been zero days. - I just don't like sand. Like it's just sucks.

- I like the ocean. - Okay, let's say, right, you go to the beach, right? I don't care about what you like Garnt, it's about me. - I was about to make a point and they just made, you just made it seem like I just made an AI generated sentence. - I like the ocean. - I like the ocean. - I thought you were done, that's why. The cadence of which you were talking is why you were done. - What happened was I was starting my sentence, I was like, oh, Connor hasn't finished his point and then you stopped and I was like, oh. - Well, 'cause now I realize, okay, okay,

- You go, okay, let's say you go to the beach, right? Like if you go in shoes, it feels gross, feels nasty. I don't like it. If you sit down in it, I gotta- - Sandals all the way, man. You gotta go to the beach in sandals. - Yeah, that's fine. We can go in sandals. - I mean, I love my vesties, man, but not for the beach, man. Not for the beach. - But it's like, then let's say you lay a towel down, towel gets all fucking sandy. I hate that. I hate that so much. - Towel gets sandy if you're like new to the beach.

- It's pretty easy to avoid getting sand on your towel. - But then let's say I go into the ocean and I want to dry myself and it's like, okay. - That's why you bring another towel. - Yeah, but this is already so annoying. - Life hack, bring two towels. - This is already so frustrating that I have to bring two towels and then like, I don't know.

- I think it's worth going through all that just for the vibes. There's just something about a beach vibe that you can't, because I actually agree with you. I do not like sand and I don't like swimming in the ocean, but yet I love beaches just because there is just a certain vibe, especially when you can feel the ocean air. There's just something about this. This is like- - It's living. - Yeah, this is living, man. And I say that growing up in Brighton, we have-

- One of the worst beaches I've been to in the world. I mean, every British beach is the worst beach I've been to in the world. But I still fucking loved it. Something about being next to a big body of water is just, especially during COVID and especially living in Tokyo, I miss that a lot. 'Cause we have beaches here in Japan, but unless you go down south, it's not like great beaches.

- Yeah, I'm not a fan of beaches. That's kind of where I'm at. I don't know, like I could enjoy the beach more if I like,

let's say I went like gigaboozy and we had like a, like we were staying in like an Airbnb. I had like access to the beach. Then I'm kind of down. - Like a beach resort, right? - Yeah, 'cause then you just go back into the hotel or whatever when you're done. It's the whole like traveling to the beach, which I also hate a lot of the time. 'Cause you gotta like, you're dressed for the beach, but then you don't wanna, I don't wanna dress like that. - As an Australian, I'm dying on the inside. - This is like the average Australian commute. Basically, I hate that.

I think it's just the British part of me that just hates it. - Yeah. Are there not any beaches in Wales? - There are, but there, so there's one really nice in South Wales called like the Gower or Mumbles, I think it's called, and it's pretty nice. - Yeah. - And it's like this, but it's more of like a,

It looks like a Game of Thrones stone formation. It's like a giant cliff and it looks amazing. It's really cool. - Right, right. - But it's not really like a, maybe in the summer you go there, but I never did. I just went there to like walk across the beautiful thing. And the summer up north they're pretty decent, but a lot of them are terrible. A lot of needles, a lot of stones, they stink. The tide, like difference is crazy. - Oh really? - Yeah.

- Yeah, don't go to England for its beaches or just Britain in general. - I think anyone wants. - That's why we go outside the UK. - Not even British people do that. - But then if you don't have the beach, if you're not a big beach guy and you also kind of don't vibe with the city of like Waikiki in Hawaii, it's kind of like, what's there really to do? And so we ended up drinking craft beer most of the time.

- Yeah, which was great. - That was great. The food in Hawaii was amazing. That was probably the best part of Hawaii. - One thing that I was really impressed with was the actual locals. - Oh yeah, everyone's really nice. - Everyone had such an awesome energy to them in Hawaii. - The amount of times I did this while I was there, man. I was just like, I get this now. I get why locals do this. This is the vibe of Hawaii, 100%. - It is totally vibes and everyone is just awesome.

on the same level. I thought people would be like much more relaxed over there, but they bring the energy and it's such a good fucking energy. - It's a relaxed hype. - Yeah, yeah, I've never seen such a relaxed hype. - They're relaxed when they need to be and they're hype when they wanna be.

- It's zero or a hundred, there's nothing in between. - Yeah, people were generally just a lot happier there, which was nice. I felt a little bit safer as well than most of the US. - Yeah. - I don't know if it is or if that's just like a weird misconception. - I think it's just purely because we're in Waikiki, but like I feel, yeah, compared to other big cities in other American States, like,

- Yeah, it was weird because I almost forgot at one point, I was like, oh, we're in America technically. Why do I feel so safe just like walking around? - Well, you realize you're in America when there's like four lanes of cars and you're like, oh, I'm back. - But I couldn't, but like there were so many days where I would just be like, oh, I'm just gonna go for a walk. You know, even if it's at night or whatever, right? You couldn't catch me doing that in LA or anywhere, like or on the mainland anyway, right? But in Hawaii, for some reason I was like, yeah, no one's,

No one has a gun here. No one's gonna stab me here. It's fine. Everyone's just chilling out when, you know, there's definitely no guarantee. - Mainland sounds so cool to say. - Yeah, yeah. - Attack on Titan. - The mainland. - The mainland. - Standing on the beach like, is that where they are? - Let's take over the mainland. - Is that where our freedom is? Over there? Like, do I find my enemies over there? - In LA.

- It was good though. I mean, I enjoyed it. It was definitely the people that I liked the most out of all of the like everything about Hawaii and the food. The food and people were the best. - Yeah. - Like the weather was pretty good. We had a lot of rain, but I-

- I like that. - Generally not a fan of humid and hot places. I say that I live in Japan, but I'm an AC fiend here. I don't leave AC areas. - See, I'm actually a fan of tropical rain. - I know you are. - You're Thai though, that's not fair. You got a natural buff to it, bro. - It's not just about being Thai. - Fuck off, it is about being Thai. - You were born in the warm rain.

- Bro, look, look, look. - Anything is better than British rain, okay? British rain is the most depressing thing I've seen on the face of this earth, all right? Like there's a difference between like the fucking cold, wet rain, that's not even really rain, it's just like someone blew a raspberry, like God blew a raspberry on you and it's just unpleasant to go out versus just getting like rain that just cools down the temperature by a few degrees and it's just,

- He says that, but the day before we left, there was a flood warning and it was torrential rain. It was insane. - It was pretty bad, yeah. - I think because when you're in Ireland in like the middle of the Pacific Ocean, the rain is so weird. It like appears for like five seconds. No jokes. - It's like an on off switch. - Sometimes just 10 seconds, gone. And then again, and then none. And then torrential, gone. It's so weird. In the UK, if it rains, it's like, "Well, Susan, get the biscuits and the scones, "'cause it's gonna be raining for the next four days "and it's not gonna stop."

and it's gonna be torrential and it just doesn't stop. It's a no joke, it's always raining in- - Yeah, 'cause we checked the weather report just before we flew to Hawaii and we saw the weather report and we were getting worried because we had a week long period that was just rain. But I knew what it meant. If it's tropical weather, just rain on the weather report means it's going to rain hard for five minutes.

And then for like the rest of like the 24 hours, maybe it'll rain in like the nighttime or the evening time, but it will come in like five minute bursts or like 20 minutes at most. And then it will like clear up, it will dry up. And if you got, and if you were outside for those five minutes, well,

- Fuck you. You are getting soaked. - Tough shit. - Nobody's carrying around an umbrella here, man. You either leave with an umbrella, you can't just like pick one up randomly. - Sure. - Yeah. - Although I will say the most important part about the Hawaii trip was that Garnt and I are officially part of the moped gang now.

- Yes, I mean, I was the one that got those boys into it. - Sorry, I have now officially joined the moped gang. - Yeah, I mean, part of the reason I've become part of the moped gang was because in the last month I went to Vietnam. - Oh yeah, we didn't talk about that. - Yeah, yeah. - God, it's been so long. - I guess we should go in chronological order, right? - We're way out of order then. - We're way out of order. We went in reverse order. But yeah, I went to Vietnam, changed my life because-

- Oh, you're like a white guy. - Changed my life. And I say that as a, you know, already Southeast Asian who's been to Thailand a bunch of times in my life. I am now part of the scooter gang. - Was that your first time? - It was my first time in Vietnam. - Vietnam mentioned, pop!

- Let's go, let's go. - Yeah, it's funny because it's only like an hour away from Bangkok. So I don't know why I've never been to Vietnam or a lot of other Southeast Asian countries. - That's what happens when something is too close. You end up never going.

because you always think it's within reach. - Yeah, exactly. - It's like Japanese people never going to Korea. - Yeah. - It's like, it's just right there. - Yeah, I'll definitely go somewhere. - Yeah, I'll go now. - I'll fly. - That's fine. - Yeah, it's an hour flight. My entire life, I'd never gone on that trip for just an hour, even though it probably takes long to fly to Hokkaido from here. But yeah, it was a very, very short flight. And I had a friend who was living there. So I was like, "Hey, I'll come visit you for the weekend." First time in Vietnam, show me around.

So in my mind, most Southeast Asian countries are basically the same except for Singapore. Singapore's like its own thing. That's not real Southeast Asia. - It's the friend with the rich house. - Yeah, Singapore's not real Southeast Asia. - Yeah, yeah, Asia's better. - Nobody asked Malaysian boy. - You know, you guys have a good GDP.

People follow the rules there. That's not real Southeast Asia, man. Come on, come on. Stop faking guys, stop faking. - Chewing gum is illegal. - Yeah, exactly, right? Your streets are clean. - The privilege. - Yeah, your streets are clean. You got a good GDP. What's going on here? That's not the Southeast Asia I know. But yeah, so I mean, what I will say is, yeah, Vietnam is very, very similar to Thailand, shocker.

- Oh, Maylene's here. - Maylene's here as well. - Oh shit, Maylene's here. - Oh my God, we got all the Southeast Asians here now. - Oh, we got all the Southeast Asians. - Sea gang unite!

- Meilyne said except for the communists. - Yeah. - What does that mean? - Thank you for your input, Meilyne. So I thought that I was prepared for the scooter culture there because I thought scooters were just everywhere in Southeast Asia, which they are in Thailand as well. But in Vietnam, it is on a whole another level.

It was actually like fucking shocking to see how many like the scooter to car ratio, which I got told, I don't know if this is true. I got told it's like 80% scooters and motorcycles versus 20% cars on the roads. I don't know if that's true, but it definitely felt like it was true. - We own the road now. - Yeah, we own the road. And yeah, just so my entire life, my entire life, I was scared of scooters or scared of like, I think I'd partly been conditioned to not,

to not get into like the scooter culture. And partly I had some bad experiences as a kid when I tried to learn how to ride a scooter for the first time. And I remember like when I was like seven or something, my cousin was like, "Oh, do you wanna give it a go?" Didn't tell me anything. And all I did was just rev up. - Oh no. - It just flew forwards and fell on me. And I'm like, "I'm never riding a scooter again in my life."

And also I grew up, my parents were just like, "You are not getting a scooter. You are never riding on scooters. Those are dangerous. Do not do that." We are not a household that rides scooters here. So my entire life, my entire life, I had just been conditioned to be afraid of scooters. - Anti-scooter household. - Anti-scooter household. But in Vietnam, you don't really have a choice.

you don't really have a choice. You are getting on a scooter whether you like it or not, because even if you wanna go somewhere close by, nobody really uses cars for like their equivalent of Uber there, which is Grab. Everyone just uses Grab bikes. And the first thing that kind of sold me on this idea of possibly riding a scooter in Vietnam is,

Everyone wears helmets. What the fuck Thailand? What the fuck? I mean, like when you guys were in Thailand, how many people did you see wearing helmets on motorcycles? - Zero, literally zero. - Zero. - I don't even think they had seat belts yet. - Dude, half of them weren't even wearing shoes. They're literally just fucking freeing the beasts and also their hair just fucking flying out behind them, going at like 80 kilometers an hour. And they're just like, yeah, hell yeah, on the highway. And I'm like, all right, well,

That's a casualty waiting to happen. - Yeah, I mean, I think Thailand has at one point was like the most dangerous roads on the planet. - I believe that. - And you know, I totally believe that as well. And so I thought, okay, this is just normal in Southeast Asia. Going to Vietnam blew my fucking mind because it made me realize, oh, people can actually care about their safety and follow the rules. And well, follow the rules in terms of at least wearing helmets, even if you order like a grab bike.

Every motorbike taxi comes with a spare helmet for the pass. - Oh wow. - So I was just like, if they can make it work, why can't Thailand make it work, man? What's going on? - Well, I mean, throwing it back to the Hawaii thing as well. - I feel like I'd have to negotiate in Thailand for the helmet. It's like, no, it's an extra 20 baht. - Yeah, yeah, yeah. - What the fuck, man? Give me the helmet. - Well, it's funny because like throwing it back to the Hawaii thing, like there was so many like mopeds and scooters there as well. No one was wearing helmets.

- Right, right, even in Hawaii. - Even in Hawaii they weren't wearing helmets. - Yeah, and I remember 'cause like when we rented our scooters in Hawaii, I was like, I want the helmet, I want my safety. And the guy literally told us and I was like, oh, that's good. Normally I have to like really fight for my clients to like wear helmets and they rarely do, they rarely do. - Wow, Jesus. - So yeah, my first experience was getting picked up by my mate at the airport and he was like, had a small luggage on me and I was like, where's the car? And he was like,

- There is no car. - Welcome to Vietnam. - Imagine traveling to a place and bringing luggage. What a fucking idiot. What a fucking asshole. - So I was like, where do I put the luggage? And he was like, welcome to Vietnam, baby. And so he just, you know, this was compared to some of the other shit I saw people putting on motorcycles. This was like, this was tame. But so he just put out the front and I was like, are you safe with that? And he was like, yep.

It's all good. This is actually a pretty small luggage actually. - Oh my God. - And he just, after we dropped the luggage off back, he kind of like took me around on the bike and just went on a tour of the entire city. And there is just,

I don't know, there's just something freeing about exploring a city on the back of a bike, especially if it's in Vietnam, because there's, I can't really describe the feeling of going up to the, of like stopping at the traffic lights and you are with an

You're the first one there and then you stop and then you just hear the buzzing. - And then the biker gang shows up. - There is a certain frequency of the Vietnam bikes where you just hear- - This is how Gon accidentally joined a biker gang without realizing it. - Yeah, it kind of felt like you stop at lights and you hear the buzzing as the army of scooters just stop at the lights. You look around.

you're surrounded by scooters and then everyone's waiting for the lights to turn green. And you just hear an army of. - It's like fall guys on bikes. - Yeah, yeah. - And I was just like waiting and they're like, "Come on, let's go." - And then everyone goes off and nobody crashes. It was like playing real life Mario Kart, man. You saw some people who had the speed boost. Some people were just like, you know. - Everybody chilled to the blue shit. - Yeah.

And yeah, that was just, that was such an awesome experience. I was like, I really wanna try getting a scooter, but I don't know if I should. I don't know if I should. - You make it sound like Vietnam was only scootering. - It was. - That's all you did? - That's, I mean, that's- - And ate food, I hope. - I ate a lot of food, but that was kind of like the highlight of my trip, I think, because I remember,

the entire time I was like, I think I'm gonna get a scooter, but I don't know if my parents are gonna be happy. I don't know if my parents are gonna be happy. And then, so after this, you know, awesome bike tour that I took with my mates, we were just standing outside

having a drink outside the bar and it was like 4:00 PM. And I was just, you know when you're just like on the cusp of being convinced of something? Yeah, I was like on that cusp. And then as we're just sitting down having a chill drink, just enjoying the vibes, I just see this couple riding along and they're in a bright red Vespa.

And it was a single Vespa driving down this road on Vietnam. And I could feel something in my brain just click. - Right on shooting stars, stars flying in my head. - And I see this Vespa drive past and I'm like, I turned to my mate and I'm like, "I'm getting a Vespa."

I've just decided it now. Rarely in my life has something in my brain just clicked that I know I'm going to make a spontaneous purchase. But I went to him, I was like, as soon as I land in Thailand, the first thing I'm doing, I'm buying a Vespa. And the first thing I did was I landed in Thailand. My parents picked me up, didn't even say hi. I was like, "Dad, I'm buying a Vespa." And he was like,

- What? - What's going on? What do you mean you're buying a Vespa? You're just here for another five days. I was like, I don't care that, I've made my decision. I'm buying a Vespa. - I'm a changed man. - I'll be honest, even though I could only ride it for five days in Thailand, I'm sure I'll be back sometime. But it was- - It's waiting for you. - It was like,

a fish being introduced to water for the first time. I had realized that this was in my blood. - Sounds like a Mr. Beast video. - Yeah, yeah. - Fish discovers water for the first time. - I just realized just riding the motorcycle and riding the Vespa around Bangkok, it was like it was in my blood.

this entire time. I tried to reject what was in my bloodline, but it just felt so right. - I love how you went to Vietnam in the past 20 minutes, all you were talking about is the fucking scooter. - I fucking was. - You're like, this is everything. - This is everything. Vietnam was great as well. I mean like, Vietnam was great. - Is Vietnamese food better than Thai food or is Thai? - No. - Oh shit. - No. - You gotta let him say that.

- I'm sorry, I'm sorry. I'm sorry, Vietnamese people. You guys need to put some chilies, man. You need to put some chilies in there. - Take your helmet off, man. - Yeah, okay. - You'll put your helmet on, that's cap. - There's only so much sriracha you can put on shit. I need some actual chilies in my cuisine, man. But no, Vietnamese food. Sorry?

- But he said he eats communist Vietnamese food. - But no, Vietnamese food was great. I mean, like the first thing I did after I got out of the airport was I had to get some money out. And I had no, this is my first time in Vietnam. So, and I didn't Google this before. So I had no like inkling of what the conversion rate was. - Oh shit, you're scammed? - No, I put in my card.

And you know, I normally you gauge how much you can take out by what's they allow you to take out, right? - Yeah. - So the maximum amount you could take out of this ATM that's, you know, unless you like insert an actual number was 2 million dong.

And I was like, that sounds like a lot. You know what? I'm gonna take out 1 million dong. That's probably gonna last me the entire trip. - Did you not just Google? Why don't you Google? - Oh, I was in a rush 'cause my mate was waiting for me. - He was revving up his bike. - How many dongs do I get? - So I was like, God damn, I'm a Vietnamese millionaire. I've got the cash. And so I get the million now. I go up to my mate. I was like, I got a million. Is that a lot? And he just looks me dead in the eye and goes,

Nope. That's a 30 quid you got there.

- The bank fees are probably more than that. - Yeah, right. I was like, God fucking dammit. But yeah, I mean, basically I did two things in Vietnam. Just go around and try a bunch of food and ride around on motorcycle and go to some local bars. That's all you need, baby. - I'm so fucking pumped 'cause I get to go in June and I'm just hearing about this. I'm like, I'm trying to convince my parents to be like, we need to get mopeds. I'm like, if we're not,

fuck you guys, I'm going on a moped 'cause I'm a changed man now. I've learned the moped ways in Hawaii. - Yeah, I mean, it's like any other Southeast Asian country. The street food is just, it's insane. - So looking forward to it. - Like tried my first like local banh mi, which was like a Vietnamese kind of sandwich. Yeah, they have a lot of bread there.

- Is it good? - God frothing at the mouth. - I mean, I think it's good. - He likes the banh mi. - I don't know how much my opinion is worth, but because- - I'd like to try this bread. - Yeah, I'll try it for myself. - Yeah, because a lot of their culture revolves around like banh mi, because you can get it like every conbini and there's so many like street food stalls that sell banh mi. - Is this the one where they put like a-

- Yeah, yeah. - That's just all Vietnamese food. - That's just Vietnamese food. And I remember like we went to a pho store as well and having pho with the banh mi bread, bro. My third eye opened, man. 'Cause I've had pho before, but I've never had it with like the local banh mi bread. I was just like, oh.

Southeast Asian people can do bread. Maybe it's just Thailand that's just shit at bread, man. - And I bet that costs like 50 cents or something. - Now you think about it, I did not see a single bread in Thailand. - No, I remember going back to Thailand for the last month and I wanted a sandwich and I was like,

- Level impossible. - We ordered the sandwich and I don't know what it is about Thailand bread, but most of the places you have, even if it's a bougie looking place, all the bread is like sweet. It's like sweet bread, even for sandwiches. - It's like in Korea as well. - And garlic bread. I was like, what is this?

Maybe the boys have poisoned my mind 'cause I don't remember bread being this bad. Or maybe that's why I just never ate bread as a kid because everywhere I lived bread was just shit. - You've had the real bread now. - You had bread in Belgium. That's pretty good bread. - Yeah, the bread in Belgium was fucking insane. - They're not the best at it. Sorry, Belgium. - I'm discovering my bread journey now. At the young age of 32. Okay, I'm discovering it now. - It's fine.

And yeah, just had a bunch of like the street food, local food.

But one thing I did notice is that everything in there is also like sweet. There's a big coffee culture there. My mate took me to a egg coffee place, which- - Excuse me, what? - I've heard about this. - An egg coffee place. - What the fuck is that? - So you know how you have a latte, you have like the espresso. - No, no, no, don't tell me what I think you gotta tell me. - You have the espresso and then they froth up the milk. So imagine that except they use egg whites for it. - Oh no, no, no.

- Honestly, actually if you- - It kind of sounds weird, not gonna lie. - Actually, actually pretty damn good. - All right. - I actually like it. - Is this good? - Is egg white coffee good? - Have you had it? - You can eat egg yolk coffee. - Is it egg yolk? - Is it? - Is it good?

- It's okay. - It's kind of like, this is what it looks like. - It looks like a creme brulee. - Yeah, so if you forget the fact that you are drinking a coffee and treat this more like a dessert, then- - Is this sweet? - Yeah, it's sweet. - Right. - Yeah, I mean, I might like it. - It looks like kind of like a dessert. - It's kind of like a perfect middle bit between kind of like a drink and a custard.

- Yeah, yeah, yeah. It's kind of like tiramisu, but just in a drink. - That's the golden word. That's all you had to say. - That's the golden word to bring up to change Connor's mind. Just say tiramisu. - I didn't know we were talking about tiramisu. See, what we should have said is it's a deconstructed tiramisu. I would have been on board. - It's a reconstructed tiramisu. - You tell me it's a latte, but with beer.

I'm like, what the fuck is that? Tell me it's a tiramisu deconstructed. I'm like, okay, well now, okay, that sounds good actually. - I mean, isn't that literally what a tiramisu is? - Yeah. - Just egg yolk and coffee beans. - Yeah, that's what I'm saying. That sounds good though. - Yeah. - All right, well, okay. I said I was gonna be a hater, but now I'm actually, I'm interested. - So easy. - Yeah. - Dude, what do you mean I have a tiramisu? - Just say tiramisu and he's like, all right, say no more. - It's good, tiramisu's good. - I know, I'm not debating that.

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- Is that being armed? - I think that's Malaysian. - Oh, that's Malaysian. - Yeah, that's Malaysian. The other Southeast Asian country. - I definitely didn't get my two Southeast Asian countries mixed up. - That's what they give to silly white people when they come to Malaysia. - Indonesian. - Oh, it's Indonesian. - I thought it was Indonesia.

- Okay, okay. We're down, every Southeast Asian country. - It's all the same. - Every Southeast, oh, when are we gonna mention like the Philippines now? - I can't say that, Jerry. I can't define it. - I can say that. - Philippine mentioned. - Let's go! - Oh my God. - But yeah, honestly, I only spent like two, three days there and I already really wanna go back. - Honestly, I think two, three days is like kind of perfect for gauging a vibe. - Yeah. - Like if you wanna come back. 'Cause I don't know,

I used to be like a one week person. I was like, I need a week. But now I feel like one week is too much. I'm like, I want three, four days. - I'm gonna be there for two weeks. - Because all of Vietnam, holy fuck. - But we're literally traveling the entire thing. - If you're traveling all around, I think that's fine. But like, you know, let's say you're flying into this major city.

- Oh no, we're not gonna be in like one city for like more than three or four days. - Yeah, that's good. I mean, when we went to like Bangkok, I thought that like traveling to a city for like two to three days is like a really good way to kind of just get a feel for the vibe and try some food. - I think it's like an awesome amount of time as well because have you ever been to like a place where you've booked it out for a week and after three days you're like- - I'm done, yeah. - Yeah, yeah. - We got four more days of this? - I'd rather live-

wishing I stayed more than staying there too long and wishing I left earlier. - Exactly. - So it's like, you know, I can always come back. - Yeah, so I'm already like planning to go back to Vietnam when I can. I want to explore more of the country as well. 'Cause yeah, the two, three days was more kind of like a vibe check if I kind of like vibe with the place there. And now,

I wanna scoot all around Vietnam, man. I wanna do a road trip around Vietnam on scooters, man. - Next Trash Taste Special, let's go. - Yeah, literally I came back to Vietnam and I was like a changed man because I would not stop talking about scooters. - You've been talking about scooters tenfold the amount that you were before. - I mean, he convinced me. - Yeah, how was it scooting around Hawaii, Joey? - Dude, so good. Like I knew I was gonna enjoy it 'cause like,

you know, I've always wanted to ride the scooter for the longest time, but like, it's not really a thing in Australia for one, because Australia is just like too big. You can't get around in a scooter. And in Japan, you need to get like a license, which I'm going to get now that I'm a changed man. So I was like, we had the opportunity to ride one in Hawaii because they're so easy to get and they're so affordable to get. So yeah, like I think one of the days, like,

in the middle of the convention, all three of us, you know, we went out and Connor did the stream and Gant and I and Nabi were on our mopeds. And yeah, we just drove around for like two, three hours around like the coastline, this beautiful fucking coastline. - Yeah, it was really nice. - Through this like cliff like area. - Just nice to get out of the city, honestly. - Oh my God, riding on that road was,

just enlightening. It was so good. - I rented the giant truck or I'm sorry, it's not called a truck, it's a Jeep. And apparently truck people get annoyed if you refer to a Jeep as a truck. - Oh really? - Yeah, apparently a Jeep is not a truck as I found out. Even if it is in the style of a pickup truck, it's very much a truck. It is not a truck 'cause there's always a Jeep when it's a Jeep, which I rented and that was fun to drive. I just wanted to rent the biggest car they had available and just,

Just feel like a menace on the road. Just be an American. - You want to feel American. - I want to feel American. I want to get it. And I feel like I do get it. There is a joy that comes from having a car that can always handle every situation and handle as many people as you need. And if you need to move shit, even though I didn't move shit, we tried to at the Vespas.

- Big fail. - Oh yeah, that's all right. - Yeah, I mean like, I think the reason we went like scooter gang aside from, you know, me being going through a phase now, I guess. - You're in your scooter phase. - I'm in my scooter phase. - Is this a third life crisis? - Yeah, yeah. - What is the- - I mean, I've got like 32 years of scooting to get back in my system that I've missed out. - Oh, you're trying to back it up.

- His whole personality is gonna be like scooting. Like one of those, like people get into rock climbing. They're like, yeah, actually my whole thing is now scooting actually. I'm just, I actually like wear gloves. - Just roll up to random skiers like, what's CC me? - I refuse to scoot without my leather gloves. It's just wild.

- Actually, you can always tell what phase I'm going through by looking at my YouTube recommendations. And right now, like my entire homepage is just motorbike and scooter videos. So you can definitely tell the kind of phase I'm going through. - So the actual seat height you're gonna want for your Vespa is actually dependent wholly on your leg length. - It's just videos like that, right? - Yeah. - Oh my God. - Yeah, I mean,

- Aside from, you know, one, you know, go through that phase. I've never been sold on having a big ass truck or driving a big ass vehicle. - What makes no sense in anywhere else in the world. - Yeah, yeah. In my mind, I'm always thinking about parking, no matter how,

no matter how good the drive is, parking is always in the back of my mind. And just seeing that massive vehicle, I know for a fact that I'm like, as much of I'm enjoying this ride, I'm going to like dread parking this vehicle. - Well, you know. - Just get good. - Just get good probably. - One, get good. - Yeah. - I say that, but a lot of you had to help me park a few times when we were in Japan. But,

- I mean, in America, the parking spots are so fucking big. So it's actually, it's not, in the UK, it'd be a miserable experience. They're significantly smaller. Like I just don't think I would even consider owning a truck or Jeep in any other country other than,

- America. - America, yeah. - 'Cause it's just, it's like, you're actually just inconveniencing your wife. - It'd probably work in Australia, actually. - Could work in Australia. And probably some parts of the UK actually could work. - Like the countryside and stuff? - Yeah, if you were not driving into the cities at all, it'd be fine. But yeah, if you're...

- Dude, in America it's so easy to drive a pickup truck. 'Cause it's just that all the lanes are big. There's no roundabouts. Everything's just lanes and every parking spot is fucking massive. The drive-throughs can fit trucks. Like it's like, this is ridiculous. I used to drive through a drive-through in a seven seater, like Volkswagen people carrier kind of family car in the UK. And that was scary going through the drive-through in that. 'Cause that was just about it would get in. And the pickup truck, no shot, no way.

So yeah, I don't know, it was kind of fun. I just kind of liked it. And the roof could pop off. It was fun, man. It just felt like you were just above the road. Like I get the appeal. - It's a tank, right? - Yeah, and I get the appeal 'cause I think like certain cars, like if I indicated, I think they'd be like, "Oh, let him go." I think 'cause if I was like the big car, they'd be like, "All right, fine, okay." - Like, "Come on through, boss man." - Yeah, it kind of felt like, it weirdly felt like, I don't know if it's 'cause people were just politer in Hawaii, but from what I, when I'd been in the car a bunch when driving with like either like,

or if I was in an Uber, like people would not be that like generous. - No, no. - Like a Prius. I don't know if it was, I don't know what it was. - What's gonna happen if you crash? You're not even gonna feel it. You're gonna, it's gonna be like, you know, mosquito. - Do you hear that? It was fun. It was great driving it. And it was, yeah, it was my first time ever driving on the side of the road. - Same. - But it's weird how quickly you kind of, how easily,

how easy it is to adapt. - Yeah, I thought I was gonna struggle because it's going against every driving instinct that I have. Like it's already weird sitting on the other side of the car. - So yeah, Japan, UK, Australia all drive on the left side. - Left side. - And America obviously they're driving the right and most of Europe actually drives the right as well. But yeah, it is weird how quickly your brain, I noticed that,

when I was driving, when I was following cars, it was super easy. But as it was coming to a junction, if it was just me, I would have that brief moment of like, turn wide. - Yeah, yeah, yeah. - Turn wide when turning left. - I had that a few times when I was first on the Vespa. Like we'd come to like a teens section. - If there's no other cars, I would kind of have to be like,

- Yeah, and I'd wanna turn left and I almost fucking, one time I almost went into oncoming traffic. I'm like, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no. This is fucking terrifying. - Luckily there's always cars parked places so that also helps. - Yeah, sure. - Help you figure it out. - Yeah. - You'd be surprised, it's pretty easy. I think in Europe with roundabouts, it'd definitely be a lot more.

- Tricky. - Yeah, a lot more intimidating. Especially if you're doing like manual as well. I don't know. I think if you feel confident driving generally, I think it's fine. But if you're not a confident driver in general, I think it's a little harder to get. - A little scarier. - Yeah. - I don't know if this is a hot take, but I think that now that I've gone back to Thailand for a month and just reconfigured my mind, I think it's easier to drive in Southeast Asia than it is to drive on like,

like Western roads, like America and England. - You're capping bro. - I honestly, I have- - I think it's like the equivalent of saying like, it's easier to drink a cup noodle by just downing it. You know what I mean? Like it's like- - What?

Because when all rules go out the window, hell yeah, it's easy to fucking drive because you just fucking show up. Like you don't need to worry about the lights, where people are, just do it. - I mean, that's the thing, right? Because I kind of realized this because I've lived in Thailand for about like four years before moving to Japan. So I have a lot of driving experience in Thailand.

And yes, like the first like day or two that you like drive there, especially when I came back this time, I was like, oh, the roads are fucking terrifying. And then when you get used to it, you kind of like, you feel like every driver just enters a kind of flow state.

And that's what it feels like. It feels like the traffic just has its own flow that you kind of like get a feel about when you can go, when someone's gonna stop. - I'm listening. I'm just gonna Google something. - Really? 'Cause when we were in Thailand and I was sitting on the back of those cabs,

I felt nothing like that at all. There was so many, like there were moments where I was in the back of this cab and the so-called flow of traffic was so fucking like start, stop, start, stop that I was getting sick by the end of it.

- Maybe it was the shit driver as well, but like- - That's because the driver is in "Ultra Instinct" and you were still in like your base. You were the side character. You were like, "I can't tell what's going on right now." And the driver was just like, "I understand everything." - I was like, "Yeah, I'm sure." - I'm like, "I can't see anything." - All I see is an incoming crash right now. What's going on?

- But yeah, it's like I realized because driving in Hawaii, yeah, like trying to learn, not trying to learn, but sometimes you're unfamiliar with the road. I was probably the closest to getting into a crash

- In Hawaii, out of the three of us. - That's 'cause you weren't following the rules, Garnt. - I was following the rules. I thought I knew the rules. That was a green light. That was a green light. I thought I could just turn. - I just Googled 'cause I was near certain that like, obviously the reason why we have all these goddamn roads is for safety. - Yeah, it is. - Yeah, and generally, I think in Thailand there's a higher death rate for car crashes. - Oh yeah, of course. - Yeah, yeah. - I mean, like it's why we have all these boring rules and you can't go when you want 'cause,

- Yeah, or traffic accidents. - Yeah, but like, I feel like it definitely feels less,

Obviously it feels easier, but once you get past the intimidation of everyone's doing their own thing, it's kind of like comforting to drive there. Maybe I'm just like going back to my bloodline, like I said. - I think you've just been in that situation too many times now where it's just numbed you because it was definitely not the case with me. I would be fucking shitting myself if I had to drive, especially if I was on a moped.

- In Thailand? Oh my God. - We'll do a trip around Vietnam or Thailand or something. Get you a few days on a road. - If I can survive that trip, I can drive anywhere. - Yeah. You know, like I feel like, okay. So you know, like the stereotype, you know,

that Asians are bad drivers. I feel like there was some truth to that. And I feel like some of that truth was there weren't bad drivers. They just went by the rules of their home country, which in Western countries counts very much as a bad driver. - It's not that Asian. It's gentrified Asia. - They were just bringing like the Asian culture to America and America's all like, what's going on?

- What's going on here? - They're bringing MMA rules to a box. - Yeah, yeah. - It's not that British people have bad food, it's that they just brought it from other countries. - Yeah, exactly. - Yeah, I mean like, I still, I like,

- The level beyond me is I still don't know how some people in Vietnam or Southeast Asia, how they get away with some of the shit they tow or get on their scooters. - Carrying their entire family in the back of a motor. - That's just dangerous. Having four people on a scooter is just, that's just like- - I saw someone towing a fucking tree in Vietnam.

- On a moped? - On a moped. They had this like tiny little trailer that was obviously way too small for this fucking tree. And I'm like, there is no way that that is stable right now. We're about to get a tree on the- - That's a fucking engine. It's probably dying.

- How to ruin your fucking moped engine in 10 seconds. - Poor scooter man. - It does feel like a lot of common sense goes out the window sometimes just to like, you're like, "Yeah, I can." And they never stopped to think, "Should I?" - It's like, "I only have this moped, but damn, I need this tree though."

- Is the tree just being dragged around on the floor? - No, no, he had like a tiny ass fucking trailer. - Okay, in my head I envisioned some dude with chains just attached to it,

moped and a tree and it's sliding on the ground. - I mean, it wasn't that much better, honestly. The trailer looked like it was like doing nothing. - Every time they take a turn, they just sweep out like 20 scooters. - No way, how the fuck did they hook up a trailer to a moped? What the fuck? - Using every CC it's got. - Oh my God. - Just Vietnam things, man. - Jesus Christ. - But yeah, like, yeah. That's why I thought driving,

- Been in more close crashes in England. - 'Cause you're a bad driver.

- I think I'm a gentrified Asian. - He's gone a bad Asian drive, no coincidence. - Your honor, my first piece of evidence. - All I'm saying is somehow I've never come close to a crash in all my years of driving in Thailand.

- He's a lucky Asian. - Yeah, yeah.

- He put all of his skill points into lockdown. - You were re-rendered by a white couple in the UK, right? - Yeah. - What? - I mean, that wasn't my fault. Of course. Look, that's what the insurance company made and said, okay? And literally the guy who re-rendered me just said, "I just took my eyes off the road for like five seconds." And...

- That's how it always happens. No one crashes when their eyes are on the road. - Officer, officer, I just wasn't looking at the road. I'm sorry. - All right, boys, you heard him, let him off. If he crashed, you didn't see it. Did he really crash? - Oh my God. - Have you guys ever been in any crashes or road accidents or anything? - Someone bumped our car once when we were parking. I remember that was really weird. I was just kind of like, "What the fuck was that?"

- When was this? - We were sitting in the back of the car and we were like 10. And yeah, we had parked and some car just bumped into us and it wasn't like a big bump, but if you've ever had a car been knocked, even like a little knock really fucking like shakes the car in a way that you're like, whoa, what the fuck? That was weird, that was about it. - I haven't been in one, but I have seen one like happen right in front of me. - Oh shit, there was...

the place I lived in London, do you remember this? There's like a junction. There's always car crashes happening there. Oh, okay. There's like really high speed car crashes. It happened quite a lot. Yeah. And there's a few times where they crashed in,

and went into like people's gardens and stuff. - Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. I had one too where like my, the road where I grew up in as well, it's like a cul-de-sac, but then it comes out onto like a T intersection of the main road. And before they have a roundabout there now to, because there was so many accidents happening there. But I remember when I was in like middle school, I was like walking to the main road to like go to the bus stop. And there was just this like cyclist just coming up this hill really, really slowly. And then just in front of me,

in front of me, I was looking at the cyclist and then there was just a head on. And this cyclist probably went flying about like 20 meters, 30 meters. - Holy shit, was he okay? - I was like, oh my God, he's dead. Like he's straight up dead. Of course, tough Australian that he was just got up and he was like, I'm good. He's picked up his bike and just started cycling again. - His bike was good to cycle? - His bike was still good.

- And the driver was like, "Are you sure? You okay?" - I would have called up Saul Goodman, bro. I would have been like, "Oh, oh, $10, $10." - But in my head, I was like, the only person who has the balls to get into a head-on collision, fly 30 meters, get up like nothing happened, and then continue cycling is someone that's happened to him multiple times.

'Cause I think like in Australia, at least in Sydney, like cyclists get into so many accidents because it's like they have to drive on the road, but they don't have like a bicycle lane like they do in like Japan and like, you know, other Southeast Asian countries. So they're just like in the middle of the fucking road. And some drivers are like,

"Well, what the fuck? "And we're gonna try and get around them." And then they either get it go into the opposite traffic or they just fucking bump the cyclist off the road. - There should be enough room for both to a little bit. - You think so, but cyclists think they own the fucking road.

- Am I right Connor? - One quick story and then I'll get on the cycle. So this is like this weird experience I had as a kid. So it's not about car crashes, but it's about cars. I was with my mom in a supermarket and I was like 10 years old.

And my mom was at the checkout and I was like, can I just go and wait in the car? I don't know why. I was like, I want to go and play Game Boy or something. And so I asked my mom, can I have the car keys? And so I take the car keys and I go to the parking lot and I find the car. And so I go to the car and I put the keys in and turn it. It opens and I go in. I'm sitting in there and I'm playing Game Boy. And like 10 minutes later, I look around the car and I'm like, I don't think these seats look the same as the one in my car.

I'm like, what the fuck? And I look at the front and I'm like, that's not the front of my mom's car either. And I'm looking at the seat again. I'm like, no, this isn't the car pattern at all. I get out and I'm like, oh shit, this is the same car, but it's not our car. And the key worked on it.

And apparently when I looked it up and it's like the chance of this happening is super low. - Right. - Yeah. - Like, 'cause the key should only work on like eight other cars in existence of that model. Like it shouldn't work. I just thought it was really weird that it happened at one time. - Jeez. - I was freaked out as a kid and I told my mom, my mom didn't believe me. And I was like, I'm telling you, I went over to this other car and I sat in there for 10 minutes. I played my Game Boy. - It would have been real awkward if like the owner of the car came out. - Yeah, yeah, yeah. - Well, I was thinking maybe I should make up that someone came and beat me up.

But no, it was, yeah, it was really weird. I remember that experience. - Damn. - Very surreal experience. - I did something almost similar in Hawaii. So do you remember when we went to Best Buy? - Yeah. - And I was like, can someone give me the keys to the truck? - Yeah. - So, you know, I was kind of like, you know, a bit of space cadet. I was just like, let me just go in, go in the truck, get my wallet so I can buy what I need to buy at Best Buy. So I go to the truck.

And I try like opening doors. It's not opening. It's not opening. It just doesn't open at all. I'm like, what's going on? Is the batteries dead or something? And I tried like several times and then I was like, okay, let me try actually just putting the keys in. I'm at this truck for about two minutes trying to fucking squeeze this key in this Jeep that we've rented out for a day. - It was like two minutes ago we parked it as well. - Yeah, yeah.

After about two minutes of fiddling around, a guy walks up to me and goes, "What are you doing? That's my truck. Oh, that's my Jeep." And I look up and I'm like,

I found myself at the wrong Jeep. I was trying to get, I felt so bad 'cause I was trying to get in this Jeep for like a full on three, four minutes. And the owner was just like right on the other side, apparently just fucking watching me try to break into his truck. - Oh my God, you're lucky you didn't like fucking call the police. - Yeah, right? - Yeah. - Holy fuck. - Yeah. - You know what makes this story even funnier? Our Jeep was parked

I shit you not, two feet from the entrance. - Yeah, yeah. - You were literally the first car you would see as you come out. And somehow Garnt did not remember this. He was in Best Buy for a total of two minutes. - And there were only like three other cars in this parking lot. - There was no one else in the parking lot.

- How the fuck did you fuck that up? - I don't know. I don't know. There was one, I looked up, I saw one big ass car in front of me and I looked down and I was like, I just assumed my head, oh, that must be mine. How many big ass cars could there possibly be? - Was it the exact same model?

It wasn't the exact same model, but it was the same color. It was the same color and it was also a Jeep. - Oh my God. - It was close enough. - It's funny to think that while we were all standing around the Jeep, we were like, where the fuck's Garnt? He's got the keys. He's trying to jack someone else's car. - We were at our Jeep waiting for Garnt to come back. We were literally in this Best Buy for five minutes.

- Oh my God. - Yeah, so that's what I was doing by the way. - Wow. - Yeah, we wondered where did you go? - Yeah. - And you were just like, "Oh, no, no." I was like, "Oh, okay, okay, all right, sure." You shouldn't have the energy to explain it. - Yeah, I was fucking knackered, but. - Yeah, yeah. - Cycling, cyclist? - Cycling, right? - I had a cyclotron. - Hell yeah. - How was that? - Yeah, it was fun. So cyclists do own the road, Joey. People get so annoyed about that a lot of the time. 'Cause some people would,

So yeah, so if you didn't know, which I'm sure most of you already know, cycled for nine days, did a whole lap of Kyushu, to raise money for charity and streamed it. And Chris is making a video as well,

which probably won't be out. This one definitely won't be out by the time this airs. But look out for that. And there'll be a video on my channel as well about it. You did miss it. But yeah, we streamed all day, every day, raising money for the IDF. - Congratulations, man. - We raised $555,000 for charity, which is 200 and something thousand more dollars than we raised last time. - Yeah, that's insane.

- Yeah, I mean, it was crazy seeing how everyone was just really into it this time. Like it was like last time we kind of dropped it like a week before and people were like, "What? "Like, what are you cycling across?

"What? This is a weird stream." But yeah, people were super ready for it this time. We added a bit more tech to it. I had a Fitbit the whole time that showed you my heart rate and my calories burned. - Oh shit. - So I thought it was just trying to gamify. There was so much stuff on screen.

- It looked like a fucking "Breath of the Wild" hug. - It was literally like you're watching a man cycling video game. - Yeah. - It was like- - It's like a biking simulator. - I wanted to bring the gaming aspect of it, which Twitch is known for. - Of course, of course. - And yet it went super well. It was hard.

- Fucking hell, it was so much harder. - How was it compared to the first cyclathon? - Yeah, I thought we had tough hills in Hokkaido and I was wrong. We had way tougher hills. - Oh yeah, 'cause Shizu's mad hilly. - Yeah. - Yeah. - I learned that the hard day. Most days were, I think in Hokkaido we had one day that was 600 meter incline total. And that was the hardest day. And then on average, I think we had around

and that was just one day. Most days I think ended up being around 200, 300 meters of incline. That means like over the course of the day, you would have gone up a total of 300 meters vertically and then probably down 300 meters vertically. In Kyushu, it was on average about 500 to 600. - Damn. - And that's like, that's a big difference that doesn't sound crazy 'cause we were cycling on average anywhere between 90 to 100 kilometers a day.

And that doesn't sound like a lot of incline compared to the distance we're doing. - You're basically climbing a small mountain every day. - Well, yeah. So for perspective, the Eiffel Tower is 300 meters. So we would sometimes be doing double. - You're basically almost climbing like Tokyo Skytree every day.

- Yeah, 'cause the Burj Khalifa is 800 meters tall. - Yeah, yeah. - So that's like, you know. - So I guess Skytree is 643 meters? - One day was 900 meters. - Oh, damn. - So one day we did the Burj Khalifa and a little bit of the Eiffel Tower on top. So just to like, for the perspective of like how high we would have to go up and then go down with the distance. - Right. - And so like,

- The thing is, is that if the incline is kind of like, you know, we have like an incline that's like that, it's like, okay, well, if that's an incline over 10 kilometers, it's like, you can do it. Like it's a little bit tough, but you can do it. But the problem is, is that when you get to inclines,

that are like this. - Oh yeah. - And you can't cycle up that. Like maybe if I was in the Tour de France and like people would, dude, I got so many annoying messages that I got, I snapped and got so angry at. They were like, just use lower gear. And I'm like, no shit. Just lose the lower gear. You think I'd cycled nine days and I hadn't figured out how to fucking use my gears? - They say, well, they sit in their gaming chairs. - I went off so many times. Fuck you, tell me to use the lower gear. I'm in the lowest gear my bike has and I can't get up this shit.

- Eating their cheese. - And that's when it was like, 'cause we had a pretty like, the objective was every day is that for like generally for safety, we need to be done by sundown just so that we're not on the roads when it's night. 'Cause like, yeah, we have lights and stuff, but it's just like, you can't see potholes well, you can't see stuff well. I think I said that the last time we talked about it. So every day we had to be done. So it was like,

- Some days where we would have the hill right at the start and we would have done like one fifth of the distance over half the day. 'Cause we would have to stop and walk for an hour just to get over one hill, which is like a kilometer and a half. 'Cause there was one hill that was, I think it was a 500 meter hill continuously. And we had to walk up all of it over two kilometers 'cause it was just too steep. And then the downhill was amazing, but it's like, it wastes so much time.

On top of that, you're also knackered all day. You're just tired and then you gotta do the shit. And then the weather was so bad. We had such bad weather this time.

I thought Kyushu in March was pretty decent weather. It was like kind of it's April, May and June is where it starts to rain a lot. Mainly May and June. - May, June, yeah. - Is where it gets crazy. And I thought, okay, if we go March, we can miss it. 'Cause it won't be too cold. It won't be too hot. And hopefully shouldn't be too much rain. Day one, I think we had rain. And then I think day two, we didn't have any rain.

And then day three, we didn't have rain, but day four we had like, oh, it was awful. - Torrential? - It was so bad. It was like Noah's Ark level rain. And it didn't stop the entire day. - Oh my God. - And like, obviously I'm not gonna, like I was complaining a lot on stream. Obviously I was like, fuck this shit. Fuck this, this fucking sucks. This is lame, this is shit. 'Cause you're like, you're cycling and then the moment we left,

Like, I mean, let me actually show you a little clip. Just give you some context. - We're training so hard all day. - This doesn't look fun at all. This looks miserable. - Yeah, we might be the first cyclists to ever drown today. - It's fine kind of getting wet. Cause it's like whatever, but you realize how fucking hard it is on your body when you're wet for nine hours. Like you're actually just drenched for nine hours and even on breaks.

I did not use Vessi's, these cycling shoes. But like the shoes get water clogged, waterlogged right away. So like the whole day, even when you get off the bike and let's say we have lunch, like we're walking around and we can't change 'cause like we're just doing it. Even if we did change, it doesn't matter. - It's gonna get wet again. - You're gonna get wet again anyway.

And it wasn't a warm day, it was like 16 degrees. So you're just freezing the whole day. And the only time you feel kind of good is when you're cycling because you kind of get a little bit warm, but it's like the mental fatigue that takes on you is like insane. And then on top of that,

On the fourth day I fell over, like pretty badly. We were going pretty fast 'cause I just wanted to get going. And then I went onto the pavement or the sidewalk in America. - Yeah, I saw the clip. - Yeah, and they have this stuff for blind people. They're like these yellow lines and they get really slippery. Which feels like such a, fuck you to blind people in the rain. They get really slippery, especially with tires. I went over it, bike just fucking went under me. And so I just fell on my leg. It was like bleeding and stuff. And I was like, fuck.

And we'd only done like one third of the day. And I was like, I can't, I wanna do this, man. This fucking sucks. And I fell over again later on. I stopped at a light and my bike got stuck in like where the pavement kind of joins the road. It was kind of like a little bit ditch. And normally your bike would be fine taking it, but when the rain, it just doesn't have any grip and it would just, it just fell over and I just went face forward, fell over the bike.

And then I really hurt my wrist, but I didn't, again, I don't want to complain about it on stream. I don't want people to worry that I was like doing it unsafely or anything. I mean, I was fine. I was doing it, but it was just tough.

But that day we raised a lot of money. - Yeah. - 'Cause people felt sorry for me. - I saw like a graph of like the money raised. - Oh yeah, there was a money raised in the fourth day. It was like an anomaly. It was just 'cause it was the most depressing shit. It was so depressing. And I was like, I was just on the verge of tears 'cause it was just such a mentally draining day to just have to do that. And then like- - How did Chris take it? - I think Chris just powered through. He was listening to Stalin audio books.

- The dichotomy. - I think Chris was like, I think I was obviously miserable as well for Chris, but I think Chris was just like, the one thing about that I think is kind of nice for Chris is that if he wants to not be on the stream and he wants to just cycle and just listen to the audio book or listen to the music, he can just do that, which I think is nice. Whereas I always have to think about like, all right, the stream, the stream, the stream, as well as obviously, you know, cycling.

And that was a, and another tough thing that comes with the rain, which is like the, probably the, it's like, they're both equally as frustrating is that the,

like the tech that we're using does not want to get wet at all. And so like, we have to use like weird ass water coverings and that's a problem 'cause that overheats everything. - Yeah, yeah. - So halfway through the day, like I couldn't check my phone or anything. So I was streaming without seeing the chat or any of the donations. So I feel like the last two hours, I couldn't see anything. I didn't know if we had signal. I didn't know if the stream was working.

My bag was getting soaked, which is worrying because then even though I had a water cover for it. - The electronics. - The electronics, it was like, it wasn't doing anything 'cause the rain was so bad and we were in it for so long that it was like, it didn't matter the water was getting through somehow. And so you're like, oh my God, I can't see chat. This equipment might be broken. I don't even know if it's working. It might not even survive to the next day. And then I can't see the phone. I can't see anything. And I'm just kind of talking to the camera and half the time I wasn't even talking. So I was just so like,

miserable and sad that I couldn't see anything. And I had to go up a fucking hill in the rain. It was so shit. I hated it all. And that was like a day where I just like the next day I was like, I can't believe I have to get back on the bike. That was like horrible. And like my leg was all like, my leg was swollen.

'cause I'd fallen on it pretty badly. And it was all, it was still kind of bleeding and stuff. But I mean, it was like kind of stinging, but it was like fine to cycle on. And luckily the next day, thank God it was sunny. And it was like, felt like a, oh my God, there was a God. - God smiled down on you. - I'm about to be religious 'cause this feels like if there was another rainy day after that, I think I would have lost it. And for the rest of the kind of cycle, we didn't really have any terrible weather. It's kind of like, we'd get a little bit of rain for an hour, it would stop.

And then we get a little bit of rain. Maybe the clouds would come in. We never really had sunny days. We had like one day where it was sunny, which kind of sucked because Hokkaido is pretty much all clear skies until one or two days, it sucked. But I mean, obviously you shouldn't cycle in that weather normally. Obviously if we were smart, we would have planned it so we could just be like, nope, not cycling today. - We'll take a break day. - But also I feel like the kind of,

the morale of it is like, and the whole like reason that I think the viewers, well in my mind, it's like this, my weird stream of mind, like it's like you do it through the good and the bad times. - Yeah, yeah, exactly. - That's what makes it like. - It's the adventure, right? - Yeah. - Well, that's why on that day people donated like the most money. - I think so, right? - From like the last day, you know? And yeah, congrats, man. - Yeah, and that was a miserable day as well because Chris insisted we go to McDonald's.

And I was still wet and cold. And I was like, can we take it to go? And she was like, no, no, let's eat inside. And I was like, fine. So I'm in this McDonald's, I'm soaking wet and I'm eating cheeseburgers.

And my leg is bleeding and I'm like, what the fuck? I just want to go back to the fucking, let's just get out of here. I don't want to be in this. We had a 40 minute drive to the Airbnb. It was the one of the, it was the, of course the day where I wanted to get back quickest. It was the one day where the drive was super far away. 'Cause we were in the middle of nowhere in Kyushu. It was like, we were like in a place called Izumi, which is like a town that has like one hotel and it was fully booked. So we had to drive 30 minutes into some like villa.

And it was very nice, but it was like, just like you were like, come on. By the time I finally managed to get a bath, it was like 9:00 PM and I was soaked the whole day and I was like shaking and freezing. It was miserable. But yeah, I was really glad I did it. Holy fuck was it hard. It was hard. It was hard. - You gonna do another one? - I don't know. We'll see. Like, I think I would like to do another one, but I want to think about how I can maybe mix it up a little bit more. - Yeah, yeah, yeah. - I think there's a- - Unicycle.

- Pricicle. - Oh my God. - Scooter. - Scooter. - If you're having a scooter, call me and Garnt. We'll be happy to join you. - I have a pretty solid idea if I was to do it again, how I wanna improve it and how I wanna mix it up. Yeah, I think if I did do another one, yeah, I have an idea.

But it was good. And I think people really enjoyed it. The viewership was generally higher for this one. - I mean, I think it kind of lined up really well because you were able to like promote it on the streamer. - Yeah, I was about to say, yeah. - Congratulations on winning the best philanthropic. - Philanthropic event.

- I learned that word for the event as well. Yeah, I mean, I think a lot of people were surprised. Me too. I think everyone expected Jack to win. I think Jack was being, well, just say Jack, Sean. It's so annoying that he has two names. Sean, God damn it, man. Why is Jack such an easy name to say as well? Jack. No.

- But Sean's great, Sean's awesome. And I think if Sean promoted it more, he easily would have won. I think Sean was like, "Connor's a nice guy." I don't know if this one. I don't know. But I also wouldn't have been mad if, I wouldn't have been upset 'cause I was in "Thanksmas" as well, which was the other event I was up against. I think 'cause a lot of people were expecting, there were other people nominated as well, but I think everyone was expecting "Thanksmas" to win 'cause it was just such a- - I mean, just the pure fact that you were even nominated

- Yeah, I was- - You were nominated for two categories. - I was nominated in variety streamer, which I didn't expect to win either 'cause it was XQC was in the same category. I mean, that's just a different ballpark of viewership and his audience watches the streamer awards and knows it. So I think, I mean, I was honored to win anything. I thought it was hype. - How was the event itself?

- It was fun. The stream rewards was really fun. There was so much drama that happened afterwards as well. - I heard about that. - Saw it all on Twitter. - I saw the fucking kid that's everywhere came up to me. You know the kid who's in- - The Bill Clinton kid? - The Bill Clinton kid. - Wait, he was there? - Yeah, he crashed it. - Of course he did. - But he didn't get in, he was outside. So after the event ended, we went outside and I was waiting for my Uber.

to go to the after party 'cause there's always an after party, everything. We were waiting there and the Bill Clinton kid comes up to me, but he's dressed as Boba Fett, right? If you don't know who the Bill Clinton kid is, he's this guy who just like video bombs stars and events. He's a very weird kid. - Yeah, the first time I'd heard about him was at the Game Awards. - Yeah, he came up with that.

- The fucking Elden Ring Japanese team. And then he starts going on about Bill Clinton, Orthodox reformed rabbi or something. It was such a random, it was very bizarre. It was a very weird. - I don't know why he's turning up to all these awards ceremonies. - And now he's kind of in a, he's a meme 'cause he's everywhere. - It's like spotting the Yeti. - Yeah, and so he came up and he,

He was in this Boba Fett costume and his face, he was all covered up and he started talking and I immediately could suss out who it was from the voice. And I was like, oh, you're the Bill Clinton kid. He shoved his camera in my face and was like, where's Hassan? Where's Hassan? And I was like, what? He's like literally here with a flash on. And I was like- - Like a paparazzi. - Yeah. And I just was like, get closer, get closer.

and I put my face in his phone. 'Cause I was just like, I was like, what the fuck's this kid want? And I was like, yeah, he'll come out, he'll come out. And then he finally, I think he got bored 'cause I wasn't like pissed off. I was like, oh, cool, cool. Yeah, put the phone in my face. That's fine. And then yeah, then he left and then kept harassing everyone else.

- Bro, streamers have got paparazzi now? - No, no, not paparazzi, just him. - Just him? - Just him, there's no paparazzi. - He is the paparazzi of Twitch streamers. - It was fun though, I mean, it was a good, like I got to meet a lot of other streamers. I didn't know, I was surprised a lot of them knew of me. I was like, oh, thanks man.

- Well, I mean like the streamer community is pretty small. - Once you're in, you're in. - I don't really collab with a lot of the LA crowd. I just kind of do my thing. - Yeah, but a lot of them like know of you. It definitely helps your homies with Ludwig. - Yeah, I mean, it's like the YouTube scene back in 2012 or something. I'm sure all of the top YouTubers knew of all of the other top YouTubers now. And now like there could be a guy with 10 million subscribers that I literally have

- Never heard of in my life. Have you ever like gone to a, like a fresh YouTube account and just like seen the recommendations? It's so weird to see so many videos with like a hundred million views, 200 million views and some different YouTubers with like tens of millions of subscribers. - It's like a global platform. - Yeah, and you just like never heard of them ever. - I think it's just, yeah, it's just because it's different.

and amount of content that is consumed and by how much, right? - Yeah. - Yeah, so I think that's why. But it was a good event overall and I enjoyed it. They brought out like macaroni and cheese and chicken nuggets for the dinner. - That's a stream of diet right there. - Of course that is. That's like gamer diet if I've ever heard one in my life. - Yeah. - Oh my God. - Yeah, it was kind of over pretty quickly, but it was very fun and I went pretty much just for that and then I- - Yeah.

- Yeah, the after party was fun and then it got ended really early 'cause another content creator got too drunk and all the police were caught, no, ambulances and stuff. I don't know what happened. All I know is that I was chilling and I tried to stop the person from going in the pool and then I was like, all right, go off. I think I left actually. And then next thing I knew the security was like, get out, no one's allowed in. And I was like, what? I was eating the burgers, those free burgers. - How long did the party go on for?

- Like three hours. - Okay. - It was like from, I wanna say like nine, 10. No, not even that. It was like two hours to like before midnight and then just ended. - Right. - Yeah, and then it kind of all just fizzled out.

Yeah, it was weird. - Damn. - It was a very bizarre night. - It was weird hearing things through the grapevine. - Yeah, we ended up in like this weird, like everyone was like, okay, everyone was like, go here now. 'Cause like when the main party, like if you ever had this experience where you've gone to a party, this is like a very,

Like when there's too many people and there's a venue. - Yeah. - Like, and then the venue is say like they shut at 10 or they shut at 11. Everyone's like, where do we go next? And then everyone kind of scatters and tries to like hear, where are you going? Where are you going? So we ended up going to this like club and we just couldn't get in 'cause it was full. And we're just standing outside for like 10 minutes. Like what the fuck are we doing? I was like, I don't know, this sucks. Let's just go, let's just leave. And then someone was like, no, no, no, wait, there's this other place. And apparently there was this,

This is gonna blow your mind. I've never heard of this. There was this house that was a credit card and the amount of credit you were allowed to have was based on how much social media following you had. - What? - That is the most LA thing I've heard in my life. - Yeah, it was called, I think it's called Carrot with a K. Carrot Credit Card.

- As if people aren't clout chasers enough, man. Now there's like a monetary value that you can get with a credit card.

- It's like, don't worry boys, I'm paying with clout right now. - Yeah, you're literally paying with clout. - Cash or credit? - Clout, actually. - A new credit card for TikTokers, YouTubers, Instagrammers who can't get one from the bank. - Who can't get one from the bank! - What I think it is, is they just give probably outrageous, what's the word, APIs? Is that what it is?

- APRs? APRs. - Yes. - Credit APRs. I think they just give outrageous credit. Like if you miss it, you get absolutely fucked by them. And they hand them out. And it was like a house. It was like their house. And I don't know how this all came about 'cause it was just a house, like a mansion. And it had branding of this thing everywhere. And we all just showed up and there was,

and I don't think they knew, I don't think that was the plan. It was really weird. I showed up and it was just bizarre. - Wait, so hold on. I'm confused as to how this like credit system works. So it's like, - Back to the credit thing. - So it's based on how many social media followers you have?

- Yeah, yeah. - And so it's like, is there like a conversion rate of like one followers, one cent or like what? - But like, is there like a TikTok currency versus a YouTube currency versus, because like TikTok followers is not the same as YouTube subscribers. - Is there like an exchange rate based on like which platform it is? - So I have an article here. This is from someone called Wei. This is like their experience with it.

- While Wei was unable to share the specific criteria for approval, he says that there are general follower accounts that Carrot looks at for applicants. YouTubers should generally have at least 100,000 followers. Instagrammers should have at least 125 followers and TikTokers should have a whopping 2.5 million followers. Wei estimates that the average cardholder has an annual income of more than $500,000. - So TikTok is like the Vietnamese dong of TikTok.

- It's like the indigenous lodge in West West. - It's like the Venezuelan dog.

And I think, yeah, again, so I think they just analyze how much money, like I think YouTube, they just look at your ad rev and they're just like, okay, you can have this much. - Oh wow. - So I think it's a really stupid idea. - Yeah, tell me about it. - And probably something Silicon Valley dreamed up and is absolutely fucking stupid idea. But they had a house and I think everyone went there afterwards and it was much smaller. And so a bunch of people were there and like I drank a white claw and I was like, dude, I was like, I'm done.

I was like, I wanna go to sleep. - But you didn't sign up for the card? - No, no, no one had to. It was literally just you turn up and it was just that brand's house. Why they had a house, I don't know. - So it's not like a physical card.

- No, it is a physical card. - Oh, right. - But like this house- - This house that they- - This house is just like the house for influencers or parties or something. - Oh, okay, I get it. - So we turned up and it was just this thing and it was the most shittest thing ever. It was just a mansion for this thing. It just felt like a, what a waste of money for this company. Well, I guess I know about it and we're talking about it. So maybe they got their money's worth from that one party. But what a fucking stupid idea for a business.

- Can we get like a mortgage out with that? Like can I apply for like a mortgage? - Can I have a clout mortgage? - Yeah, yeah, yeah. - Clout mortgage. - Instead of sending over your bank statements. - The interest rate's pretty insane. - Yeah, yeah, yeah. - You're like, ooh, you actually- - So you're gonna get at least 2,000 followers a month? - I need your analytics right now. Can you send over your analytics? - Actually, your PR is not great and you could fall off at any moment. So, ooh, gonna not give you the money. - I need you to increase your CPM by at least a dollar by the next month. - Have you ever been canceled?

- You know like the customs declaration form where you like declare like, are you bringing in firearms, narcotics? It's just like in 10 years, there's just gonna be, have you ever been canceled before? - I'm sorry, we're gonna have to deny your visa. - How many cancellation attempts has been made in the past year? Please write down our number. Use the lower quick bracket to explain in more detail.

It's like, where are we going right now? - Oh my God. - Holy shit. But yeah, it was so weird. - A lot of fun. - Yeah, it was so weird because obviously only you went and just obviously the drama happened and seeing you mentioned,

because I can't imagine what it is like to be at the center of streamer drama. 'Cause it's kind of like high school. - I wasn't really involved. I just happened to stop the person from jumping in the pool one time. - Yeah, and just like hearing your name as part of this gossip that was like being thrown around. - What is that boy doing? - It's like seeing your friend's name in TMZ.

It's like, what are you doing? - That's kind of what it felt like. I was just like, Connor, what's going on? - What are you doing? - And it was just like, it was like so much a game of like Chinese whispers where it was like, some people were just like, oh Connor. - People were like assuming it was a different Connor and people were like saying different things to what actually happened. And I was like, whoa, whoa, whoa, hold on, let's have a look. Yeah, yeah, they were like, they're trying to throw Connor in the pool. I was like, no, no, no. I was trying to stop them from jumping in the pool. Which is different to them trying to throw me in the pool. Well, I think so at least.

- Yeah, so you've been to America. - Yeah, it was literally like I went to America

I had one day back and I went cycling for nine days and I had one day back and then I went to Hawaii and now I've got a few days back and then I'm taking my parents around a little bit of Japan. So I don't know why I'm paying rent. I'm kind of just scamming myself. - Yeah, you really are. - And last year we spent a total of like how long in Japan? Because we spent a lot of it in America and traveling around. - Like half a year at most. - Yeah, half a year. - Well, you know, I'm gonna try and at least have like one or two months this year where I just don't leave Japan. - You say that. - Well, I already, yeah, I mean,

or at least make it so the visits out of Japan are short. - Yeah. - Except for probably when we go to America again for AX and stuff like that. - Joey's not gonna join us this time though. - I'm going to Vietnam. - You're going to Vietnam. Low key, actually really fucking jealous.

- Actually really jealous that you get to go. - I'm gonna send you all the moped. - Gonna be like, damn that Joey. - God damn it. - Here I am in America again for the 50th time. And Joey is back enjoying Vietnam. - I'm back in America. - Home of the free. - Yeah.

- Maybe I'll ride around in a Vespa in America, who knows and just get run off the road. - Are you scared to go back in America after being grilled at TSA again? - Oh yeah, fucking hell. - You got fucking diddled. - I had like my guard down this time we went to Hawaii.

- I don't know why, just 'cause we've been to America so many times that I'd forgotten how intense it could get. - Yeah, you were in like hardest difficulty of papers, please. You were struggling. - Yeah, John had all the correct paperwork and they still grilled him. - Yeah, yeah, I had all the correct paperwork.

And I was like, it's Hawaii. People are chill here. It's an island. It's a tropical country. I know how things were. People are very chill. My border control officer was not chill. - Okay, to paint the scene, right? I'm at the front of our three men line. - Yes. - And there's three desks. - Yes. - There is two men who look quite intimidating and they just don't look happy. - Yes. - And there's this woman who seems very pleasant and is talking

talking very friendly to all the people. And I'm in my head, I'm like, "Man, I sure as hell, I hope I get the very pleasant woman." Sure enough, I go to the pleasant woman, two seconds, she's like, "What are you here for? Business. What are you doing? Podcast. Cool. Bye. Have fun in Hawaii." I was like sick. So I go downstairs, 'cause you're not allowed to wait. And I'm just sitting there like,

It's been like 30 minutes. Where the fuck are these boys? There's no way they grow them for 30 minutes 'cause the line wouldn't fucking move. - Well, I mean, I always get girl when I go to the States because of where I used to think. - Yeah, so I rock up. I see Connor having an easy time. I'm like, yeah, it's chill. It's Hawaii. I give my passport. He asks, "So what are you here for?" I say, "Business." And he goes, "What are you doing?" "Podcast." Exactly the same answer as Connor said.

But he went further. He was like, "What kind of podcast? What do you do?" And I was just like, "Oh, I mean, have a podcast where we kind of talk about-" - See, this is where you fucked up. You're already saying too much. One word answers. You gotta say one word answers. Just say anime. - Anime? - You fucking lied.

- Yeah, I mean, it kind of just like- - Okay, don't lie. - Don't lie, don't lie. - Simplify, don't talk to them. - Yeah, 'cause the guy asked me as well and I just said Japan culture stuff. That's it, three words, short and sweet. - The more you talk, the more they'll talk to you.

- This is the trick with TSA chat, right? I'm telling you. 'Cause I figured this out. If you start like, "I guess I talk about anime and stuff." And he's like, "Well, actually I want to trash taste." You don't talk about anime at all. - That's what it felt like. It felt like I was in like a Phoenix Wright where he was just like, "There's a lie here somewhere. There's a contradiction."

- Just be calm, short, simple answers. They'll be like, okay, cool. - Yeah, because it's so- - Again, just to preface, this is obviously ensuring you have all the documentation. - Yes. - 'Cause they're still gonna grill you 'cause it's part of that job. - Which we did, of course. - But you can just make this easier by just,

just kind of just being simple, being frank, don't open up the fucking assay. - Yeah, see, 'cause like I was kind of, you know, I already knew, 'cause every time I go to the US, I always have to get sent to the second-year. So I'm like, I knew, I was just like, you know what, I'm just waiting for him to be like, come to the back with me. So I was, you know, kind of- - What does it look like? What does the back room look like? What's the nicest back room you've been to?

- Honestly, probably the Hawaii one. - They're like Fiji water or- - No, no, not even. But it was so funny 'cause like I got sent to the back room in the Hawaii one as I always do and they were like, "All right, just sit here and wait." - Joey's already used to this. - Yeah, this is like not my first rodeo at all. And I was just chilling there, you know, just waiting for my-

name to be called, just hanging out, you know, watching these other people who clearly look like they're shitting their pants. I'm like, oh, first time? - First time. - I'm a veteran, don't worry about it. And you know, there's TSA's officers walking back and forth. And one of them stops and just like looks at me dead in the eyes. And I'm like, you're gonna call my name? Am I good to go? And he just goes,

"Is Aki with you today?" And I'm like, "No." And he's like, "All right." And he just walks off. And I'm like, "Please put the good word in for me. You know who I am." And sure enough, like 30 seconds later, same guy walks out and he goes, "All right, you're good to go."

And I was like, my man. - He's like, "I got it." - Meanwhile, as I'm in that first part in the line with the three of us, you know, I'm just waiting for the guy to like, just tell me the inevitable. And I'm hearing Ian on Garnt's conversation. And he's like, "So there's this thing called Yen Press, yeah?" And I'm like, "What?"

- What conversation did it come to where you have to explain a manga publishing company to a TSA officer? Like what did he ask you? - He basically, so I know the exact moment where I was just like, I fucked up basically because he was asking me all the questions and you know, that was fine, but he just kept going, right? Because I feel like he was looking for

- Some kind of hole, something he could grab onto. So he asked me, what do I do? I said, anime and manga podcast. And he was like, what are you here for? I was like, anime convention. And he was like, what's the anime convention? And he was like, "Kawaii-Con."

And then he goes, "So where's Qui-Gon taking place? "What's the address?" - Actually, while I was going through my thing, I heard him, you being grilled of like, "How will you get there? "How will you know where you're going?" - And to be fair, I was actually like, I wasn't panicking. I was actually like pretty calm. I was just like, "Sorry, sorry about this. "Let me go check it now."

- I was, normally I change my SIM card to like a SIM card that works in American with American data after I land. And so I was like, let me check it quickly. No, I would just like connect to the wifi. He's like, there's no wifi.

you cannot check your phone. There is no wifi. And I was just like, is it okay if I change my SIM card? He was like, no, what is the address? I need to know now. And I'm just like- - Holy fuck. - I'm like- - He's fucking playing dumb. - In my mind, I was like, dude,

- Chill, chill. - You could've just been like, "Ah, someone else in my party knows." - Yeah, yeah, so that's literally what I did. And he was like, he looks behind and he was like, "Is he with you?" And this obviously wasn't a good look either. - He's gonna like fucking drag Joey over. - "Joe, get over here." - This obviously wasn't a good look.

He's like, he sees me and he sees my mate, Joey, also being grilled. - The guy who's gonna take you to the back room. - Yeah, the guy getting taken to the back room. He's like, that's your boy? That's your boy right there? - As I'm walking through the back room, it's like, oh, it's Honolulu Convention Center, by the way. - Yeah, I'm like, Joey, what's the convention center called again? And he's- - Honolulu Convention Center. - And it's, yeah, the Honolulu Convention Center.

And I was like, oh, it's a Honolulu convention today. And he was just like, how are you gonna get there? How? - Yeah, I heard him grilling you. - Yeah, yeah, he kept asking me, how am I going to get there? And I'm like- - How the fuck else am I gonna get there? - And I didn't know what he was asking for. So I was like, I thought he meant, where are you staying? So I was like- - Oh, like, are you getting a taxi or something? - Yeah, yeah, yeah. And he was-

And so I was like, oh, I'm gonna get a taxi to the modern Honolulu, which is where I'm staying beforehand. And he's like, no, how are you gonna get there? And I was just like, what? I don't understand. - What does that have to do with anything? - I don't understand what you're looking for. - That's so fucking stupid, dude. Like sometimes they, like occasionally they, a pretty normal question is, you know, do you have any cash on you? - Yeah. - So they can trick you. - That's what the guy asked me. - Yeah, they asked you that 'cause they wanna know if like, I guess if you need to do something,

- Do you know what got me through? - What? - 'Cause actually if this wasn't my first time in America, I probably would have been shitting myself. But I know he's just doing his job. - The lawyer told me this as well. Like you have all the documentation, you've done everything correct. Like they're just trying to intimidate you. If you have all the documentation and you haven't said anything that's like,

your like terms of that visa or whatever, then they shouldn't do anything. - Yeah, I mean like in my mind I was just like- - This is not legal advice by the way. This is not legal advice. - Yeah, this is my first time. I definitely would have been shitting myself, but I was just like,

Oh, this is very much an inconvenience right now. And I know it was just because I could have easily been sold if I had data on my phone and it just was one of the airports that did not have wifi at the border. So, you know, I was just in a little sticky situation but I was pretty cool. - Always have the address. - Do you know how I won him over? - Why? - Started complaining about LAX.

- Wait, how did that even come up? - What's your least favorite airport? - Because he asked me, is this your first time in America? And I'm like, no, fly to LA all the time. I just did a tour of America as well. I've been through, I've been to the border enough times. Obviously he's like checking that as well. And he's like, oh,

how does this airport compare to the rest? - He asked you that? - He asked me that, he asked me that. He asked me that and I'm just like, I'm gonna lie to you, this is way better. This is such a good airport officer. - What the fuck?

- Why would he care? - And he looks around and he goes, "Really?" And then I just start going off an LAX. And I'm just like, you do not know how good this is compared to LAX. My God. - Bro, thank God he didn't ask me. I'd have been like, bro, this airport is a dog. He'd have been like denied. - Yeah. - B tier? What? - And as soon as I was like going off my LAX, he just looks at it and goes,

"All right, you can go through. "Hope is not too hard, I was just doing my job." I was like, "Yeah, totally understand." - Oh, he said that? - Yeah, "Totally understand, man. "Totally understand you're just doing your job." - At least he said that. - Yeah, at least he said that. - He was pretty loud with you there. I don't know if it's doing his job, he got a little something out of that, I think. - He was definitely- - He was pretty loud. - He was definitely being very loud and in my opinion, very,

I think my monk training kind of like came through. Maybe like exuded onto him somehow because he was grilling me and I was just like, you know, I'm sorry, man. I can't check it right now. I'll be real with you. - I'll come here in peace. - Fucking line through LAX, dude. I watched two episodes of "Made in Abyss" while I waited in the immigration line.

- I'm not, 'cause dude, it's so shit. - It is shit. - It's so bad how understaffed LAX is. I'm like, this is so stupid that I can watch an hour of anime in the fucking line. - And you got to like the officer and you're just like, I'm sorry officer, I just watched "Made in Abyss." - It's a better episode by the way. - I think I was on like episode 10 of season two as well and I was like, fuck, this is heating up.

- I watched "Made the Best" season two, that was great. - Oh, hell yeah. - "Anime Talk," that was good. - Yeah, yeah, "Anime Talk," "Anime Talk," "Anime Talk." - Wait, how far are we in? - An hour and 30. - I guess we can do "Anime Talk." - Okay, we can do a little bit of "Anime Talk." - Just for you guys. - Let's not talk about the anime. - Okay, sure. - So what was the first thing you did after you got off to Hawaii? Since me and Joey just went off and rested. And what did you do, Connor?

- What did I do? - You went to go see a certain movie. - Oh, you went in Hawaii. Yeah. So John Wick 4 doesn't release in Japan until September, which is like, what the fuck? Why is it?

how long does it take to make subtitles? - Yeah. - That's like six months. - Translators are crying right now. - Yeah. - Some of the scenes are in Japanese. I don't understand why it's taking so long to get John Wick 4 out. And so I'm a massive fan of the John Wick series. I've watched every single one in the cinema when it came out. I fucking loved it. They're great. And I think they're the best action,

I guess, what would it be called? It's not a sequel or trilogy. It's a quadrilogy. - Quadrilogy, yeah. - It's like a series. It's the best action movie series I think we've had in like for such a long time. Like even some of the greats of action movies, like I think this holds up if not as better than a lot of my favorite action movies. - Damn. - Yeah.

And John Wick 4 looked insane. They had such an insane cast of just goats. And so I was super pumped for it. And I realized, okay, well, it's the week after John Wick comes out in America. We're in Hawaii and there's got to be a theater in Hawaii. Sure enough, there was one right next to the hotel. So-

The moment I found out that we were, like the time we were arriving, like 12, I booked the cinema for two, 2:00 PM. I was like, I'm going straight to John Wick when I land. So we got in, so I booked three seats to John Wick, right? - You booked three seats? - I booked three seats 'cause I was like, if somebody last minute wants to join, they can join. If not, I get the extra two next to me 'cause it was like packed. Of course, 'cause everyone wants to watch John Wick 'cause it's John fucking Wick, you wanna watch it.

I had like, they were like recliner chairs too. Dude, theaters in America are so fucking good. - They are. - The food is insane in this theater. I got a chili dog and I was fearing for the worst that it was gonna be like the spray chili. It was like actual cheese and chili and a great hot dog. And the popcorn was great. It was massive. I was so happy.

- All your favorite things. - Nobody came with me. No one wanted to watch John Wick 4, can you believe that? - Well, to be fair, I haven't seen a single John Wick film. - Yeah, that's fine. - Yeah, I haven't seen the third one yet. - I will though, I will. - Come on, come on. And so I just immediately went there and I was so happy and it was rammed. So I was kind of happy to have the two seats next to me be free. And then one guy tried to sit next to it, he was like, "Oh, is this my seat?" I was like, "It's certainly not your seat."

I'm like, boom, boom, boom. It's my seat, buddy. - I was gonna say like you couldn't sit next to me. I was just saying like, no, no, no. It's actually not your seat. - Actually, I booked all these seats for myself. - Which was great 'cause I had like,

I felt like shit and also I'd ordered way too much food. So I had to like, I was like putting my shit on the other places and like, 'cause they gave me this giant ass tray full of food. And I don't know how I would have managed to eat anything if I had just the, my lap. 'Cause I would have been like, so I just put things away and it's great. I loved it. - I guarantee everyone else in that cinema was like, look at this fat fuck. - 'Cause we hadn't eaten. So I went to town, like this was like our lunch breakfast. I was, dude, I live in my best life. It was,

three hours long too. Holy shit, it was so good. It was so good. - So was it the same length as "Avatar"? - Yeah, no, "Avatar" was a little longer, I think actually. - Okay. - Three and a half hours, right? - It was three something. Either way, John Wick was, like normally when you come off a plane, you might be a little sleepy, but I was no sleep at all. This movie was so fucking good. This is insane. It was such a good film. You guys gotta watch it. - You'd say it's the best one out of the four?

- What's your favorite one? - What's your John Wick tier list? - I think John Wick might be my favorite one. - I mean, it's got Donnie Yen. - Donnie Yen is so fucking good in it. Like obviously we've talked about how much we like martial arts films. Donnie Yen is the goat. I never realized, 'cause I don't think I'd ever watched a Donnie Yen film where he speaks a ton of English. His English is cracked. And I think in one of the videos I watched, his mom opened up a martial arts thing in Boston. It was crazy how well these new characters just fit right in. It really felt like the one that,

I guess because it just focused on ending. It didn't like some of the law that they kind of built in some of the other John Wick movies, we kind of felt a little bit convoluted. And this one, it was just action. Like I think he says a total of like 300 or is it 300, 180 words. Like he says barely any words in it. And the action scenes are so goddamn good. - So is this the last film? - This is the last John Wick film. At least in terms of- - Confirmed? - Yeah.

- In before John Wick 5. - It is. - Is this like an end of Ava kind of deal? - No, no, no, it's the last one. At least for like this time period or whatever. It's so fucking good. And I was like, it made my week. It made going to Hawaii worth it. I would have gone to Hawaii. I think I would have gone to Hawaii. And if I'd have flew to Hawaii, watched John Wick, gone on the flight back that evening, I'd have been happy. I'd have felt like it was worth it. It was genuinely amazing. Like it was such a good film.

- All right. - Holy fuck, watch John Wick 4 if you haven't already. - Yeah, honestly, like you think going to Hawaii for the first time, Connor would not stop talking about like some of the stuff he experienced in Hawaii, but in Hawaii, he just kept talking about his highlight being John Wick 4. - Dude, it was so good. Like actually one of the best films I've watched and so I'm so fucking happy it turned out good. So good, Donnie Yen's the goat in it as well, he's so good. - Yeah, how do you feel like John Wick stacks up against the classic like action movies? Because I feel like,

Like, you know, you had like the classic 80s action movies and then that kind of- - Like the Rambos. - Yeah, like the Rambos and like the Schwarzenegger kind of era. And I feel like action movies are kind of like coming back with like the whole Fast and Furious franchise, like the John Wick franchise now as well. - To be a little bit of a simp for a moment. Like, I mean, Keanu obviously works very hard and has his entire career on like martial arts. - Yeah.

even though he's a great actor, he's also a great stunt man and martial arts person, I guess, the practicer, what did you say? And like, it's like the accumulation of all his career of practicing different elements of stunts and martial arts just coming together. And it's like, I don't think of an, I can't think of another like actor who is like a traditional actor who is invested so much into this kind of space who could pull this off like this. Cause like you watch,

I watch action movies after watching John Wick and I'm like, holy fuck, the amount of cuts and shaking of the camera is insane. It's like you watch John Wick and you're like, oh, that was a 30 second uninterrupted camera angle of him just doing an amazing choreographed fight. And it's like, holy fuck. - It's like the old school Jackie Chan films. - Yeah, it's so good. It's so impressive. And like the mixing of the style, like martial arts with like guns is so cool. And it's just like,

I personally, I think this is probably like John Wick 4 kind of sealed it for me where this is like probably my favorite action series of all time. I think genuinely for me, maybe not like martial arts, but like for just pure action. I think it's my favorite of all time. I genuinely think so. It's so fun. The whole world is fun. The whole assassin world is very fun and engaging and like, God, it's just so good. Maybe it's recency bias, but fuck is it fun. - I don't know why that's,

every time Keanu Reeves stars in a film, I don't know why I love the fact that Keanu Reeves just plays Keanu Reeves. - He's so dedicated to everything and just the craft of acting. - I mean, he's one of the most wholesome persons on the face of this earth. - I think it's just 'cause you could, again, I think there's that feeling where like you, when you watch someone who just loves what they do and is dedicated to the craft and just making- - And is a nice person on top of all that. - And is a great person. Like, I think it's just hard not to just like,

I think even if you don't like action or don't care for the John Wick series, I think you can't deny that watching him perform on the screen is just like a delight. And dude, some of the stunts that he does is like, holy, he's 50. And some of these stunts he's doing is insane.

The whole word of the series is just insane. Please watch it if you haven't. I know it's not for everyone, but it is such a delight to watch. - The thing is though, after I've seen John Wick 1 and 2 at least, it's just ruined any other role that he's played because all I see is John Wick now. I watched like the new "Matrix," I'm like, this is just John Wick in "The Matrix."

I played Cyberpunk 2077. I'm like, it's John Wick in Cyberpunk. - It's Neo Cosplay as John Wick. - 'Cause he just plays, he can, in the best and worst way, it's just like, I only see Keanu Reeves or the John Wick era Keanu Reeves, which is great, which I fucking love it. - It's the beard, man. - I think it is the beard. - His look is iconic. - Yeah, it's an iconic look.

Just to do martial arts in a suit is just so fucking nice to watch. I don't know why. - It's classy. - So good. - Just anything in a suit, man. - It's fucking sick. God, the whole, please watch "John Wake 4". - It was like this all fucking week. - I was like, I talked like this just to nobody. They were eating dinner. I was like, guys, "John Wake 4", please watch it. - Kind of would have random conversations with people in like the lift.

just talking about John Wick 4. That's how dedicated we are. - Have you seen John Wick 4? - Yeah. It's like, "Oh, how's your day going?" My day's going great. I just saw John Wick 4. - I'm like the precursor to like what the Rick and Morty fans became for John Wick. Like I'm like, "Have you seen Rick and Morty? You have to watch Rick and Morty." - Oh my God. - I'll get bored of it in a week. But when it comes out in Japan again, I'm gonna go watch it.

- I might have caught up with the- - I'll have caught up with you. - 'Cause then it'll be six months and I'll be like, "God, I wanna watch it again." I know I do. Such a delight, dude. It's so fucking good. - Yeah, I mean, there's kind of like a lot of films coming out that interest me, which is rare. We have like the Super Mario Brothers film coming out as well. - Well, I think we've kind of now seeing kind of like the, when roughly now is I think when

when films kind of stopped being affected by the pandemic as much. So I think we're kind of getting more films. Because the past two years have been a drought. We have a drought.

- It's just nice because the past two years, it doesn't even feel like the past two years. It feels like the past like four or five years, it's just been, hey, Marvel movies, which is great. I enjoyed "Endgame." I enjoy, I'm still as much of a Marvel fan even as you can be, even though like phase four has sucked ass. - No one likes this phase. - Has sucked ass. And I was hoping "Ant-Man" would be better.

- It wasn't, it was- - Did you watch it? - I was going to watch it and then I saw reviews and I'm like, okay, this is a plane movie now. - Easily swayed by reviews, eh? - I mean, I kind of am because especially when it comes to like theater, going to the cinema, I wanna make sure I'm not wasting my time. I'm that guy. It's either cinema or I'll watch it at home or if it's a Marvel movie that's mid, I'll probably watch it on a plane, which is what I have been doing with like the rest of the movies this entire phase.

So it just seems like there's not been much. - It's exciting now. - Yeah, there's not been, for a long time, there just wasn't a lot of choice of films that I wanted to see if it wasn't like a Marvel movie. But now there's like so many films that are like shit. - There's that new, the film I wanna watch, I think it's coming out this year, is the Oppenheimer movie. - I really wanna watch that. - Oh my God. - What's his name? Oh my God.

- Shit, I was literally about to say it. Christopher Nolan, that's it. - It's Christopher Nolan and Oppenheimer's played by fucking- - Oh my God, what's the guy's name? Kai, look it up. - What are you thinking of? - It starts with a K. He's the guy in "Sunshine."

- Oh, the actor? - Killian Murphy. - Killian Murphy. - Killian Murphy. - Yeah. - He plays like Oppenheimer, the guy who made the atomic bomb. - Yeah, I'm hyped for that. - Looks fucking awesome. - Yeah. - I'm really hyped for that. - I think we're gonna have a good year of cinema, hopefully. - I'm really, really hyped for Oppenheimer. I don't know, Christopher Nolan, I've realized- - He makes exciting movies. - He does. - He does. What I love about Christopher Nolan is that even if his movies sometimes are a bit experimental, at least they break the mold. I don't feel like I've...

- When I watch a Christopher Nolan movie, I always come in with a new experience, right? Even if a lot of his movies have had,

some of his movies have had issues with it. I look back to all of his movies and I'm looking back at "Tenet" now, I'm like, damn, that was actually a really good fucking experience. - One thing you can't say about his movies that are boring. Like they're always interesting. Even if they're hard to follow, they're always a fucking delight to watch. - Yeah, every now and again, I go back to watch clips of like "Tenet" like,

on YouTube because I just wanna relive just how fucking insane some of the visuals in that was. And of course, Tenet had problems with this writing. I mean, the character was literally called the protagonist. But like years, which is how like, a lot of the reviews of that movie were pretty like mediocre. It's not his best work. But when you look back on an experience five,

like two, three, five years in the future, you're not gonna remember any of that stuff. You're gonna remember the shit that actually like did something new. - It stands out on like the broader scope of like cinema that came out. - Yeah, for sure. - Yeah, like I look back at "Interstellar" as well. I've been- - I watched that again recently. - I actually rewatched that as well because- - Wait, why?

I don't know. - It's a fucking good movie. - Something about it was just stuck in my mind. - I haven't watched "Interstellar". - You haven't watched it? - No, it's a great movie. - It's a really, really good, well, here's the thing. Again, when it came out, when I first watched it, I came out of it after watching, what's the dream movie again?

- Inception? - Inception, Inception. Yeah, Inception was what like sold me on Christopher Nolan. That's what made me a Nolan fan boy, watching that in cinemas, in Japan actually for the first time, fucking blew my mind. And I'm like, this is incredible. I went into Interstellar wanting something similar to Inception. I was like, this is totally different. What is this? I don't understand. And the reviews at that time were, again, this is still good, not his best work, but still good.

but it's just something about his work just sticks with you. Like makes you remember it. And I think I appreciate "Interstellar" more now than I did when I first watched it. - I think I watched, I think I was like, I never, 'cause I think before that time I wasn't really going to the cinema much. But I think for some reason in my head,

Since I watched Ad Astra, I was like, I don't want to watch any more space movies. I don't know why I watched this Ad Astra thing and it was a really weird, okay film. I remember I went to the cinema and it was literally just me. It was like a midnight viewing of it. And it was IMAX, it was a giant theater. It was just me. And I was like, man, this is creepy as fuck. And it was such a really sad movie as well. I mean, you remember it, right? So I think I was done with space, but I kind of want to get back into space stuff. - Have you watched The Martian?

I haven't watched that either. Again, 'cause I was kind of done with- - That's such a banger film as well. - That's a great movie. - Like a lot of films, I'm like, I want to watch that in the theater, but I can't anymore. - Yeah. - Like "The Martian" to me is like a modern day cast away. That's also a movie that's aged incredibly well. Holy shit. Matt Damon fucking killed it in that film, man. - Making those potatoes. - Yeah, making those potatoes. - Yeah, I watched like a game theory, a film theory about it. And I was like, oh, I've seen "The Martian."

- He plants the potato, it's fine, he uses it. - I think now we got all the cool science YouTubers and everyone bringing a good name to scientists. But I remember back in the day, it was just like, he was like the pioneer of like bringing a cool image to like someone who's just really nerdy and someone super into science. I remember watching the Martian, I was like, damn.

maybe I should get into like a science or something like that. Damn, I wanna grow potatoes on Mars. God damn man. Yeah, what a banger film. I think the reason I go to the cinema less than what I used to is I don't know where I saw this quote or it was probably like a random YouTube short or YouTube video or something like that. - I get all my life lessons from you. - Yeah, yeah, yeah. I remember what they were talking about, but it was someone in the movie industry talking about how, you know, in the modern day,

there's not really as many mid budget movies anymore. It's always either the super high budget blockbusters, which is normally like anything Disney, anything Marvel and that has its own charm, but I'm not always in that kind of mood or it's like a very like- - Super art house- - Yes, like super like indie film, art house kind of films.

And it kind of made me realize, yeah, I think some of my favorite films aren't those big ass blockbusters, the cinema kind of experience. It's kind of like I grew up with watching a lot of mid budget kind of mid budget movies. - Well, there's a lot more, like you could make comedy movies before. You can't make comedy movies before. - Yeah, what's happening to comedy movies, man? - It's not profitable. - I watched like a 50 minute breakdown of like why comedy movies are just dead.

- I think DVD sales are a big thing. Like having DVD sales to make up the poor performance they would have to get in cinema. And you can also shoot them a lot cheaper, but I guess the audience demand for it is not as high. - Comedy is dead. - Think about like mid 2000s, how many of the most iconic films from the mid 2000s

- I just think of like how many fucking Adam Sandler movies there were. - People love to clown on Adam Sandler, especially like some of the later films he did, but he did some really good fucking films. And I really enjoyed that era of just, oh, it's an Adam Sandler movie. I should probably watch this. - Honestly, it's weird that it's those like weird kind of, as you were saying, like mid to like slightly high range comedy movies

or like just movies in general. - Or just movies like that in general. - Yeah, that like, that just stick with me the whole time. 'Cause like in my head, like when I think back to like some of the most fun movie experiences I had, like,

I don't know if this is like a hot take, "Night at the Museum" was a fucking bang movie. Do you remember that movie? - Yeah, that's cool. - That was a fucking awesome, or like "Bruce Almighty." - Yeah, exactly right. - It's such simple films, but there's something about it that just like, after all those years, I can still quote like a bunch of things from those movies. - Right, right. - Where it's like today, it's like, I've seen a lot of great films recently, but it's like, I couldn't tell you in detail as much as like say like,

you know, fucking "Waterboy" by Adam Sandler, you know? - Well, I mean, it's just a different, like it's a different landscape now. Like everything has to be a lot of money and a big budget. - And a lot of the time, I mean like fucking superheroes are the Isekai of Hollywood. You just have like no choice but superhero movies. So when something like "John Wick 4" does come out or, you know, the "Super Mario Brothers" movie, I'm like, finally something,

- Well, they thought initially that John Wick was gonna not perform the greatest 'cause there was like not really much marketing behind it. It was kind of confusing initially. 'Cause you're like, it's just a action movie with Keanu. Okay, I'm having a guess. - Say no more. - I think people just were shocked at how fucking good it turned out. The budget was tiny for the first John Wick. And even the newest one was really like kind of small considering how famous John Wick is. I think it, can you Google the budget? But I think it was like 90 million.

- Oh, really? - That's not a lot. - Yeah, which like the Marvel movies are sometimes like 400, 500 million. It's a very different amount of money. - Yeah, yeah, exactly.

- It was a hundred million, which is like, it's a lot of money, don't get me wrong. But like when we hear about what some other films cost, I think Avatar needed to get a billion to like break even or something. It was like, it's just like, holy fuck. Like it's so impressive what they can do. I don't know, I just love it. - Yeah, I mean, like you were saying, there were a lot more films in that like 50,

50 million kind of like range. - 50 should be a lot too. - 50 is a lot, but compared- - I mean, inflation is also a thing. - Yeah, yeah, but I mean like that kind of like budget compared to the every superhero, every Marvel movie, which is like hundreds of millions of dollars. It's all, they're both a lot of money, but one is way more money than the other kind of movie. And I feel like in the end,

in that like mid range, you could still explore interesting ideas without having to be limited by, you know, being an indie film, you know, 'cause indie films are fucking fantastic by the way. But at the end of the day, you use the resources you have and sometimes they find clever ways to use like the lower budget, but it has its charm.

but there's just a whole category of like films that I feel have just been wiped off the earth in like the past decade. - Just 'cause a lot of the fucking budget films that we hear about lately are like "Cocaine Bear" and the "Winnie the Pooh" horror film. It's like these just shit films. It's just fucking stupid. - They're just meme films, right? - Yeah. - They're just films that they're like,

It's like you can make the film on less than a million and you'll probably get more money just of people being curious because it's such a stupid concept. Like I think the Winnie the Pooh film was like not even like a hundred. How much was the Winnie the Pooh horror film? Can you give me the budget? I think- - I was really tempted to go watch it. - I think it was like literally like less than a million. Like I think it was like even less than that. I think it was something stupidly low. - I wouldn't be surprised. - Yeah, it just has a budget under a hundred dollars.

- Under a hundred thousand. - And everyone knew that that movie was coming out, right? And so I don't think the aim of that movie was to make a good movie. I think it was to make a movie that would just exist and could be called a movie. - And it definitely made us money back. - Yeah, it made like 10X the budget. It easily got a million. - Yeah, it was also a 10 day shoot as well. - A 10 day shoot? That's just a YouTube video. - Yeah, they made 4.2 million.

- So like, I think a lot of studios now or like budget studios saying like, oh wait, if we just do something outrageous, so make something fucking stupid that people are gonna talk about online. Even if the movie sucks, we get money. - Isn't it crazy that the Winnie the Pooh movie took just as long to film as our Japan road trip special did? - Oh my, why you gotta say it like that, Joey? - If you think about it like that. - Oh my God. - If you think about it like that, that's nutty. - That's fucked up.

- Meanwhile, Dizzy's like, "What other classic movie should we remake today?" Oh, it's Moana, it's Moana, guys. - Shit idea. I mean, everyone, everyone. - It's fucking hell. - I mean, everyone said this, but like the remakes fucking suck. - Well, there's that Little Mermaid remake coming out, right? - I don't care.

- Moana does not need a live action. And the fact that they have Dwayne Johnson doing it, which makes sense obviously. But what is the fucking point now when it's just like an RTX version of Moana? What is the point of this movie? - He just did a mocap version. - Yeah, they just fucking used

- Just release the mocap footage of him. Just release that. Like what is this shit? He's gonna be like, I'm really excited to revisit the role and do the exact same thing I did five years ago. - The thing about remakes is that I feel like with remakes, you should, there's like a grace period. - Everyone thought about it. Everyone knows this. There's just an unwritten rule that you should leave it the fuck alone for a while. - Yeah. Like you can't call it a remake if it's like what fucking five years ago or some shit like that. - If I could still watch it on in-flight entertainment, it's too goddamn early. It's too early.

- But boys, we all know the biggest news in the movie world is that Shrek 5 was just announced. - Was it actually? - Yep, Shrek 5 was just announced. - No fucking way. - They're making a Shrek 5. - I watched Puss in Boots. - Was it good? - Oh, you did? - It's insane. - Really? - It's so fucking good. Actually, I've never seen a movie that went so hard. - I really wanna watch it. That's actually like, no joke. - It's in cinemas right now. - I heard insane things about it, yeah. - Dude, it's like,

it feels like the one punch man of the Shrek universe. It just came out of nowhere and was like, what the fuck? Why is the animation just insane? - Damn.

I can't fathom how hard they went on this film. Not only is like the, just the animation itself, just an absolute delight. The story is so fucking good. - Yeah, yeah. I mean, when I first saw "Puss in Boots 2" start like trending on my timeline, I'm like, people are memeing, right? This is a meme. - I don't even watch "Puss in Boots 1." You don't need to, 'cause this film was just so fucking good. - Yeah. - Damn. - But yeah, I'm excited for "Into the Spider-Verse 2" as well. - Dude, we got good, we got- - We got so much great cinema coming out. - Great cinema.

- Thank God. - Hell yeah. - Even though that is a superhero film, I don't care. - It's fine. - I enjoy it into the Spider-Man too much. - He's my hero right now, dude. Bro, that film was so good, dude. Please, if you're skeptical, you're like, "I don't wanna watch Puss in Boots. "I don't wanna watch Puss in Boots." Doesn't fucking matter. Don't fucking listen to anything you say. You're dumb. Go and watch Puss in Boots 2. I don't care how you watch it. Watch it right now. It's so fucking good. - Hell yeah. - Yeah, more of the story is, I am more excited about cinema this year than I have been for a very long time.

very long time and I might actually, and I'm going to the cinema more often now. - Dude, please do. Let's go watch "Puss in Boots." I think it's still on cinemas. - But hey, look at all these patrons though. I bet they're excited for "Shrek 5." - Yes. - Why would they be? Okay, nevermind. Thank you for watching patrons.

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