OUR BOY RAISED 1 MILLION DOLLARS | Trash Taste #202
01:54:17 Share

Ryan Reynolds here for, I guess, my 100th Mint commercial. No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no. I mean, honestly, when I started this, I thought I'd only have to do like four of these. I mean, it's unlimited premium wireless for $15 a month. How are there still people paying two or three times that much? I'm sorry, I shouldn't be victim blaming here. Give it a try at mintmobile.com slash save whenever you're ready. For

$45 upfront payment equivalent to $15 per month. New customers on first three-month plan only. Taxes and fees extra. Speeds lower above 40 gigabytes. See details. This episode is brought to you by Honda. When you test drive the all-new Prologue EV, there's a lot that can impress you about it. There's the class-leading passenger space, the clean, thoughtful design, and the intuitive technology. But out of everything, what you'll really love most is that it's a Honda. Visit Honda.com slash EV to see offers.

- Hello, ladies and gentlemen, welcome back to another episode of the Trash Taste podcast. I'm Joey and I'm with the boys, Garnt and Connor as usual. And hey, where the heck are we? - We are in Australia right now and we have a nice little Aussie set. - We're about to like say smart things. - Yeah. - We're presenting. - Is Fortnite overrated?

- That's the last one. - Yeah, that was the last one. So about a year ago, as you guys remember, we did a couple of episodes in Australia and we're back again. Actually exactly one year later. - Yeah, and I got reminded that we were in Australia, literally like about an hour after we landed when I realized, oh, people talk to you here. And do you ever have like that mental adjustment period where you're like,

I didn't have a, like I got asked the question and I didn't have like the conversation tree prepared. So I just like froze. I was like, oh, where have you been? What are you up to today? - Japan does condition you to just like expect nobody to ever talk to you. - Especially if it's like a cashier as well. Like when the cashier was like putting in small, we went to go get a coffee earlier. And the first thing the coffee shop cashier said was just like, oh, the whole family's here. And I'm just like,

How do I respond to that? Yeah, I gotta learn, relearn to be like a normal person who's having normal conversations. Yeah, so we were looking for a place to get coffee because it's a holiday today, right? Anzac Day today. It's Anzac Day. So we were like just walking around trying to get a coffee and there was this place that looked like it might be open, but the doors were closed, but there were people in it.

So we assumed it was like opening at a different time. And then just someone shouted out from a car, oh, is that place open? And I forgot that you could just-

ask strangers for like information. And I was like, oh yeah, this is a thing that you can do in a country like this. - Any country. - In any country, except for Japan and England, which is two countries that we have just flown from. - We all literally just landed as well. So what is the best thing that we should do when we land right away? Record episodes in a room.

- Yeah, well, it's been a while since we caught up. - It has, yeah, it's been like a month. - Yeah, it's been like a month. - People always think that like I see you guys like all the time. Sometimes you're like, "Oh, you must hang out with them all the time." I haven't seen them in a month. - Yeah, exactly. - Joke could be that. - Yeah, yeah. - I wouldn't know. - Exactly. - I wouldn't know. - The main reason why we haven't been recording pretty much all of this past month is mostly because

of Connor's massive achievement. - The biggest W of the year. - Yeah, absolutely. - I never put my hands up. I just, I always.

- I just think of that damn Martin Scorsese clip. Yeah, I know. Well, even you went away too, but yeah. What was it? April 1st, I started cycling and haven't started now. - Cycled here actually. - Cycled here, yeah. - It just never stopped. Yeah. In case you missed it, Connor raised a million dollars for charity. - The Doodle House had help from the boys. Well, okay, we'll get into that. But we had the crew, Chris, obviously, and Felix joined in.

Yeah, it was a lot of fun. My favorite part during the entire journey was that Chris had like devised a reason why you weren't there. He was like, "Joe's probably like in a fucking hammock or something." - Hammock. - And so every time we'd get to like a shit hill, Chris would be annoyed and be like, "But Joe's at home, sitting in his fucking hammock right now."

- Why is it in Chris's head, Joey Eagles hammock? I mean, I do have a hammock at home too. But I wasn't in the hammock. - What does Joey do? Why is he sitting in a fucking hammock somewhere? - Well, the reason why I wasn't at the cyclothon was because I had a bunch of friends and family visiting the entire time. - Joey made the right decision.

because if he said yes, he would have joined me on the worst day of the cyclist on if I understand correctly. - Yeah, so I guess I'll just, 'cause I'm sure not everyone who's watched this watched it. I did two weeks of cycling to raise money for the Immunovigilance Foundation. I cycled from Shimonoseki in Yamaguchi all the way to Tokyo, Tokyo Tower. It was two weeks it took and we changed a lot of things this time. We did a little bit less cycling every day.

and try to make it. That was less cycling every day. That was less. That was less. Like about 20% less. That was less. About 20% less. Yeah.

- What? - You had the easiest day. Well, actually one of the easiest days. We'll talk about that. And then, yeah, so we mixed it up. We did less cycling and then we did more fun things. Well, some days we did more fun things. - Fun things. - Yeah. - Garnt's not happy about his day. And the first two days we just did me and Chris and then we had guests join us for like two days at a time. And Garnt was the first guest. - Yeah. - Garnt had-

- I joined on day three. And you know, I remember Connor asking me, "Hey, do you want to join a cyclathon thing?" And I'm like, "Yeah, sure, let's join." He's like, "It's gonna be a lot of fun. We're gonna go to a lot of cool places. It's gonna be like a nice chill cycle. We're gonna do less cycling."

And then I think we briefly talked about, there might be rain, but let's not think about that. Let's not think about that. And I think that was just like bad omens. Cause I remember it was like a few days before and I looked at the weather forecast and it was just like, there's like a little bit of rain.

Okay. Actually, it was like, actually, forecast like for the first week it was going to rain. I was like, oh, fuck. There's going to be a little bit of rain. I swear every time I checked it, like, you know, you know when like you're just hoping the forecast is wrong and you're like, okay, the next day when I check it, it's going to change and it's going to get a little bit better. Every day I checked it, it got like progressively worse and worse. And it was like, no, it's like 20% chance of rain. No, it's like,

30% chance of rain. Okay, now it's like 80% and it's going to be a downpour. - Oh shit. - So you joined us at Iwakuni, which is like a weird area of Japan. It's kind of most famous for having a giant military base. - I didn't know that because I got on this plane. I'd never heard of Iwakuni before. Never heard of this place. Got on the plane and it was like so many foreigners. I was like, what is going on in Iwakuni?

I have never heard of this place before. - It's like a secret tourist destination. - Yeah, yeah, yeah. - And one of the strangest aspects of this, and I don't know if they did this on purpose, like if the whole city was designed around this, but the airport is pretty much in the town center. - Oh. - So the train station is five minute drive from the airport. It's so, so close. - Jesus. What prefecture is this?

Do you remember? I think it's, is Iwakuni still Yamaguchi? I can't remember if it is. Or maybe Hiroshima Prefecture. Okay. One of the two. I think one of the two. Maybe I'm blanking out a prefecture in between. Yeah. Okayama? Is it? No, no, no. Okayama is after. Oh, yeah, yeah. Right. Yeah. So it must be Hiroshima. Anyway.

And we got there and I mean, we were very lucky the first two days it didn't rain. And when we got to Iwakuni and looked at the forecast, it was like 100% chance it was gonna rain the next day. And you could tell it was gonna rain. Like those clouds were like shit. And the gun was arriving at like 10:00 PM. So we were like, "All right, well, we'll go to an Italian restaurant

and we go there and we sit down and that thing was all you can drink wine. - Okay. - I was cycling, so I'm like, I'm good. But then sitting next to us was this really big, old, kind of like a little bit chubby, like a very Santa Claus-esque looking like American man. - Sure. - Who for the lack of like better way to describe him was like, imagine Pete 20 years in the future and he let himself go a little bit.

I can imagine. Because within like seconds of sitting down, this man was chatting up a storm to us. Right. And he was like, I've been married 20 years. And we were like, what's the secret to being married? He's like, I don't tell my wife shit. And I was like, that's the secret to being happy. He's like, you got to keep a little bit of secrets from her. I was like, what are you...

What is blood yapping about? I know, I know. I mean, it must work. He was just telling us about like, he was like, I used to be so rich and then now I'm broke. Yeah.

And he was just like laughing. And then he was like, "No, don't order the wine, separate. "Make sure you get all you can drink." And we were like, "It's okay, it's okay." He's like, "Get the all you can eat pizza." I was like, "I'm kidding, I'm kidding." And he would just talk into us and he was telling us all about how he designed the military bases and yapping. And then we had a nice meal and we finished up.

Garnt came and then you came to the hotel room, right? But we were already asleep by then. Yeah, you guys were already asleep by the time I arrived. So I woke up and I was like, you know, maybe last minute chance that maybe God will bless me with the weather on like the first day. Wake up, it's fucking downpouring, man. It's really like full on. You brought the UK weather, right? It's like torrential rain. Yeah, it is like torrential rain.

And, you know, it's probably a good thing that it was like day one because at least like my spirits were about as high as they could be. Because I wanted to like bring, you know, some energy. Like how could it get any worse? How could it get any worse? And I was like, you know, still smiling. I was like, you know, we'll get through this. And it was like, I think it was the first leg that I realized, oh, this is, I'm fucked.

I remember we went to the conbini for breakfast and then I can't look tired. And then we were buying the coffee and sandwiches and Guy goes, it'll be type two fun, right? I said, no, this will not be any fun. I can confirm. So you don't know type two fun is the type of fun that you look back on and you have fun. Now that I'm looking back on it,

It was not fun. It was absolutely not fun. It was character building, which is not type two fun. It was character building. Yeah, it was bad. I think it was about 80 kilometers, which is one of the more, I'd say, average days. It wasn't too much, too bad. But it did have a lot more hills than what we were doing. So it was hills combined with- And it was pouring the whole time. It did get a little bit less, a little bit during lunch, but then it came right back.

And like the Google forecast thing, I'd never seen this before to like judge how much rain they have a raindrop. That's like either like a little bit full. The raindrop was full. Yeah. I think it was like eight centimeters an hour of rain. Jesus. Yeah. It was as recycling. It's literally just,

puddles on the road can barely see because of just how much rain there is. Far out. Freezing as well. Yeah. It's so cold with the rain. That was something like I didn't prepare for, which I, you know, I brought some rain clothes. It doesn't do anything though. It doesn't do anything. And I fully realized that when, even before we got to lunch, we had a pit stop and I was like, I can't,

I can't stop shaking. - I felt very bad. - You put this man through torture. - I did too. - I mean, you put yourself through torture. - I said yes to it. - It's for a good cause. - It's for a good cause. - It was for a good cause. - This is what you missed out on. - Yeah, yeah. - Oh no, what a shame. - Joey, yeah. - It was so funny 'cause we cycled like, well, that first pit stop, we stopped by, what was it, Miyajima? The famous shrine in the water was in Miyajima. - Yeah, yeah, yeah.

In the parking lot below you can maybe see it over there. - It was like, you know, at least with like the cycling special, I was like suffering, but I'm like, what a fucking beautiful view. What a fucking beautiful view. In this one, I was suffering and also the views were shit. I could not see shit. So I was just cold.

- I don't know, man. I specifically remember in the cycling special, there was a segment where you clearly said, "Fuck this view, fuck everything." So even if the weather was good, man, I don't know if you would have been like- - I was like, "Take me back to that view, man." - See, remember how much we cycled in the cycling special? Grant cycled like an extra 20 kilometers in the rain. - Yeah, and it was uphill. - And it was more uphill. - Yeah, yeah.

- Did you at least have a proper bicycle this time? - Yeah, I did have a proper bicycle this time. Which I think definitely helped me on the first day. It was the second day that I really, that was like a different issue. So like the first day, I actually felt pretty bad because I actually complained less on this one, even though it was like way worse than the experience. I complained less on, 'cause it was for a good cause, I was trying to do it for charity. - Of course, yeah.

- I actually wanted to be, I actually like, I feel kind of bad, I haven't told you this, but I wanted to be more entertaining. I wanted to be like more on camera, more energetic, but like all of my energy day one was just- - Surviving. - Surviving. - I don't think anyone blames you for that.

- I wanted to bring more energy. - It's tough, man. - Because unlike the cycling special, I did actually train for this one and I'm so glad I did actually try to up my stamina for it. 'Cause like I got asthma and all that stuff. - Yeah, I mean, you did great. I mean, like you powered through and did it. - It's not an easy thing to do. - I definitely couldn't have finished it if I had done it

I came into it with the same like physical capabilities as like cycling specialists. - Right, right. - There was absolutely no way. - Yeah, you were a lot fitter than when you did that one. - Yeah, yeah. And even though I was fitter, I just about hit my limit when we got to like the end goal on like day one. - Yeah, I know. - And I was just like, holy shit, I'm at like zero now. I couldn't have gone on if there was like an extra like five click, five kilometers or something, I would have been like, guys, I gotta go there.

- Yeah, I mean, you could have easily, I said to all the guests, I think next time if we did it, we'd give the guests e-bikes as like an option. 'Cause the e-bikes don't last all day either. But once you get to a hill, it's like, you don't need to suffer like that. You don't need to do this. I don't think killing a guest is like worth it.

- And then you can focus on being more entertaining, right? - Yeah, yeah. And I actually think like, honestly, I actually think day two was tougher for me, even though like- - 'Cause you were just dead. - Even though like it was technically the easier day, because day one was like, all right, grit your fucking teeth, get through this.

power through the rain. You fucking got this gun. And I like expended everything, willpower, physical power. And then day two came. And even though it was like the easier day, I remember the first like 10 kilometers of that. I'm like, fuck it out. I can't, I fucking can't. I physically can't. Day two is always the worst. I think actually any of the cycles that I've done or any kind of thing like that. Cause like day two is the first day where you,

you've just done exercise and your body really doesn't want to do it. - Yeah, it needs rest. - 'Cause like day 10, I'm like, all right, I'm kind of in like Groundhog Day and I don't want to do it. But like in terms of like doing it, I'm like, well, we're done at nine days. But day two, it's like my body really wants, every other day, any other day that you would work super hard in one day, you would normally take the next day off, right? - Where does it hurt the most? - Your ass. - Your ass. - Yeah, it depends on the guest. Pete said his neck hurt the most.

Oh yeah, I can see that. His neck. You're looking up a lot. Because you're looking up, because on like a proper road bike, you're like, yeah, that makes sense. So you gotta look up. My ass hurts so fucking much that it physically, I like got nightmares of like, yeah, I'm not even joking. Like I remember the day after the cyclathon, I had a nightmare where we,

I never remember my nightmares, but for some reason, you remember some reason you invited me to watch Dune 2. And then we go to the cinema

cinema and I remember instead of having like comfy seats I just had like the cycle seats and I'm like Connor I can't sit through this for two and a half hours and you're like but god we gotta watch Dune 2 man it's so worth it that's a

- That's so funny. - I don't know, I don't know. That was like, that's all I remember from that. - That's how I imagine Americans feel when they have to go from like American cinema seats that are like super comfortable and reclined to European shitty ones. Really small and so upright. They're like, what is this?

- Such a funny dream. - Yeah, so like day two was mostly just me trying to like stand up because I physically like could not sit on my seat at all. But honestly like the hardest part of day two because it was like a lot of it was downhill. I had a different issue that I was dealing with all day. It was try not to fucking die because,

- Because the bike that I rode was like fucking fantastic. It was like a, what was it? Like a three and a half grand bike or some shit like that. - Yeah, I'm not sure. I think it's like a triathlon. - Like a specialized Japan only version of this bike. - I have never ridden on a bike like this. Like the tires are paper thin. - Yeah, yeah, yeah. - And it's like, it's like light as a feather. - You can pick it up with your pinky. - Yeah. - Wow. - I picked it up with my pinky.

Yeah, it's so light. So normally it's for like experienced riders and I am not an experienced cyclist at all. And so going downhill, there was a section...

where we went downhill for what seemed like half an hour or something. - We did like 20 kilometers downhill. - Yeah. - Jeez. - 'Cause we'd done so much uphill the day before, the next day was mostly downhill. - Right, right. - Yeah. So Chris was going in front. So I was following Chris, right? And he just speeds downhill, right? And I was like gripping my brakes for dear life because you're going downhill and you got trucks,

you got trucks just like overtaking you like every, every five minutes or so. Right. And every time the truck passed me, it,

made like a wind vortex. And because my bike was, it was like, the truck was like a Tezca zone and my bike was just like being sucked into it. - Yeah, because like, well obviously you have loads of wind coming your way and then the truck just suddenly cuts it off. And your bike goes like whoosh. Like you do like get sucked in. - Like the air pressure, right? - Like the air pressure gets sucked in. And like, if a truck got too close, I was just like, you could feel the wind just blowing me about. - Yeah, 'cause that clip did, got a lot of views.

Because people were like, holy shit. Because the guy, even I, I watched the clip and it's like me going, holy shit. I'm like, God, truck. Because the truck went really fast by me. And you were obviously not as close to the curb. But really, the truck shouldn't have overtaken there.

- Yeah, yeah, I mean, 'cause I saw the comments were like, "Oh, Gantrimedian should have been closer to the curb." I was not confident in my bike control that I wanted to just, for my own safety, I was like, "Okay, I will be an asshole and just,

give myself a little bit more space because yeah. - No, no, no, that's the safer thing to do. - Yeah, it's safety, yeah. - Because I was like, I'm not used to this bike. It wobbles very easily. So I don't want to hit the curb while like a car is like overtaking me. - But that truck was trying to overtake 'cause there was traffic coming towards him and he wanted to really do it quickly, which is almost scarier. - Yeah. - But when you go downhill, sometimes it's, I don't know.

I have no idea actually what the proper thing to do is when you're going downhill. But normally I just try and go as fast as possible so that cars don't overtake me.

I don't know if that's the right thing to do. - Yeah, yeah, yeah. - Because if I'm going the speed limit, then the cars shouldn't be overtaking me. - Yeah, I have a- - And then I normally go a bit more in the road. - Yeah, so I don't know. - But obviously, but I wouldn't do it on your, actually, I wouldn't have done it on your bike though. My bike's got thicker tires. - Yeah, my bike was like, my bike was- - That was scary. - If I lose control for just a second and I had flashbacks of the Hawaii special where I lost control and I immediately fell over, I was like,

fall over while going down this hill i am going to die and get run over yeah and i remember there was this fucking like the the most the most terrifying part of um of the cyclathon which unfortunately wasn't on camera was uh kris went into this tunnel oh my god yeah and apparently i apparently cyclists weren't allowed in this tunnel

No, we were allowed in the tunnel. Okay. But there was these two roads that came out afterwards. Yeah. And, you know, okay, I'm going to flame Chris. I'm looking at the maps. I'm the one, like, guiding us. I'm streaming too. Yeah. And Chris won't even look at the fucking road signs. It's this big no bicycle sign. Yeah. And Chris goes right fucking down it. Oh, my God. This is no bicycles, mainly because it's not that long. So, honestly...

It was fine. They went down it, but probably shouldn't have because it's like basically cars are coming down at like 50 kilometers an hour and it's really tight bends around a corner that you can't see. So the only worry is that if people were coming down too fast, there wouldn't be enough room for them to slow down. Yeah, yeah. So I remember following Chris to this one tunnel and it was like super dark.

right to the point where you could not get a clear vision of the road yeah so i was going down at however many kilometers per hour i was going down probably like 30 sorry 30 or 40 yeah 30 40 with like trucks overtaking me couldn't see the road and i was like if i hit a if i hit a pothole i'm dead

I'm just dead. I'm putting my faith in God that, I'm putting my faith in one God and two, the Japanese construction workers that they have made an immaculate road that will not like falter at all. - Not to be like that conspiracy guy, but isn't it like the chances of having potholes in tunnels way less? 'Cause isn't potholes caused by rain?

I have no idea. If it's on a mountain because the rain would go down into it. Yeah. I don't know. But also temperature differences. Right, right, right. Because the water goes in, freezes, expands it, and then when it thaws, it cracks. Maybe. I don't know. I don't know. But normally, I mean, I don't know what the best way to handle this, but normally I just come off my seat and then put my legs as like suspension and grip really tight so if there's a bump that my legs just go like, my legs tank it.

But I mean, like there's some really nasty potholes there that are like. Exactly. So before this tunnel, like this, I was like locked the fuck in. You have to lock it. You have to be locked the fuck in. What made it like even scarier was, you know, a lot of it I was comfortable because I could hear Connor behind me. And then like before the tunnel, the last thing I heard was, oh my God, chap, this is so hype. We go into the tunnel and then I, obviously I don't look back. I don't hear Connor at all.

And I'm just like, okay, can't hear Connor, whatever. Maybe he's like slowed down, whatever. I continue bobbing it down this hill. Don't hear Connor. I see Chris stop at the traffic lights. I'm like, finally, after like 10 minutes of going down this hill, I'm like, oh, catch my breath. Look back. There is no Connor in sight. Connor is like nowhere to be seen. And I'm like-

Is he fucking dead? Is his last words gonna be, "Oh my God, Chad is alive." - We'll take a clip though. - Yeah. - Yeah, no, I saw the sign and I was like, I was really confused and I stopped and I was like, "Huh, I wonder," and I was trying to figure out what to do and then Chris just like texted me like, "Oh, come on dickhead."

Go ahead, go forward. I'm like, Chris, I don't want to fucking die. So I was trying to figure out which way to go. And it turned out if I just went, if I went off the main road, it would join back up really quickly. So it was not a big deal, but in the end, it took like 10 minutes to figure that out of me looking at the map. So I didn't die. But most of the time I was trying to body block for gone. I was trying to like get behind him so that like, and leave a little extra room so they wouldn't try and overtake. Because sometimes they can see me, but I always worry that when they overtake,

if they think they're just overtaking one cyclist. And then when they come out, they see like three and they're like, "Ah, fuck it." And it's like, "No, don't, no, no, don't fuck it. "Come to the state, don't overtake us. "There's three of us together." So try to keep safe so that doesn't happen. But obviously sometimes people still overtake. But I mean, I don't mind if it's a giant open road and you can clearly see no cars.

I get nervous when they speed up really quickly and they can see a car coming and I know that like, what are you trying to do, man? Like, is it really worth five minutes of your life doing this risk?

But some people are like, yep, yep, here it is. Here it is worth five minutes. So you're gonna stop at a fucking 7-Eleven in two minutes to get your fucking coffee. Yeah, I think you can fucking just wait. - Some people have played too much GTA. - Yeah, but I mean, yeah, Garnt had a, I mean, second day, that was the challenge, but the first day we managed to survive it. But the Okonomiyaki we had was amazing. - Yeah, that was amazing, honestly. - Ian knew a great place. - Well, I thought you weren't a fan of Okonomiyaki. - Dude, this one was great. - Okay, after a cycle, it's just like anything tastes like fucking- - And it was Hiroshima style.

- Hiroshima style is way better. - Because we were in Hiroshima. - Hiroshima style is goaded. - There was like this really, like Ian knew this mom and pop shop and it was awesome. They did this, like they asked what type of noodles you wanted as well in your okonomiyaki. So there's some spicy crispy ones. - Hell yeah. - It was so good. But it was so hard to enjoy the meal 'cause I was just so cold and I was trying to warm up. And then we went to like this hardware store after it, which kind of helped.

- You went to the hardware store to warm up? - Well, we went to get more, 'cause all of our stuff was so soaked. - Oh, I see, I see. - So we went to get new,

rain gear. Yeah, yeah, yeah. It turns out like everything that says it's water resistant or waterproof is true for about 30 minutes. Right. Until the rain just wins. Makes it sweet. The rain just says, nah, I'd win. It's true. It doesn't matter how thick it is. If you're just in the rain for so long and it's that bad, it just gives up after a while. Like the gloves...

I had gloves and then I had like a, basically like a very thick plastic bag over my hands. And after about 30 minutes, it just doesn't do anything. It just doesn't do anything. But it did help a little bit. - It did help. - But again, like the hardest part is just like, you start at like 9:00 AM and you're already soaked by 10 and cold. And you're like, I'm gonna be like this until like six. And there's not a whole lot you can do about it. - Yeah, honestly, do you know what my biggest regret is?

- It was that my suffering wasn't on camera more. - Yeah, yeah, yeah. - Yeah, because all of my, because the difference between like this psych-a-thon and the Trash Taste special was that there was always a GoPro to like document all of the fucking shitty things I was going through, all my complaining with the psych-a-thon because I was just like surviving. Connor and Chris were just like 90% of the time, just like way ahead of me, just waiting for me. And it was just me going,

And none of that was caught on camera. Some of it. I guess the lunch was great. We just had like a pseudo podcast. Yeah. We were like trying to avoid doing anything but cycle. Yeah. There was going to show that Paul did take permission

- Yeah, Paul got a bunch of footage. - Okay, okay. - So you'll be in Chris's video. - Okay, that's good. - So your suffering did not go in vain. - And then when we went up that giant hill in the middle of nowhere, like where I was down pouring, I was like behind you. - Oh yeah, yeah, that was a fun moment. - And then we finally beat that hill. It was good. - So some of it was type two.

- That's the reach, but I'll take it. - I was so depressed when we had dinner that night. You were like a broken man. - I was. - I've never seen you so broken. We were trying to eat yaktori. - Is that that picture that you posted with the tree? - Yeah, yeah, yeah. - Yeah. - Garnt looked dead inside. - It wasn't like that night, it was like, oh, I gotta do this again.

And that was the only day out of the 14 days that we had rain. We got super lucky and no other days rained. Yeah. Yeah. It was just like perfect after that. Damn.

- It was maybe like honestly too good at times. It was too hot. It was too hot and too sunny. - Why are you rubbing your face like that man? - I'm just saying, but hey, we raised a bunch of money that day. - Yeah, yeah. - It was a great day. - Hell yeah, it was all for a good cause. I'm happy to have taken part. - Hey, and everyone is always like Rip gone. He had the hardest part. Felix joined and that was a lot of fun. He pimped out my bike. He had like two flat days.

But even like Felix, right? Felix is like super, super fit. By the end of the second day, he was like, when does it end? I want this to stop. He was struggling, but he got through it. But he didn't have nearly as many hills as you. So I think like, you know, you had a way harder day than Felix by a mile. I'll take it. I'll take it. I'll take it.

And Chris was constantly like, "What, what, how are you so ripped? How do you have muscles Felix?" And Chris was like obsessed with it. He kept being like, "Why are you so ripped?" - Well he doesn't eat from a camera man. - Yeah. And Felix was just like, "Hey Chris, you know, if you stopped eating and drinking the stuff you do, you'd get like this pretty quickly." And he was like, "No."

- No, it can't be. It can't be. Nonsense, nonsense. - It's not that easy. It's not that easy. - But this one was like way better than the, oh, Natsuki Cycle 2. - Oh yeah. - How did he do?

About as well as you'd, I mean, not bad. He did like 30 kilometers. Okay. He was like smoking right before cycling. Yeah. And like nearly fell off because he kept trying to do like Instagram stories while cycling. And he's like not a good cyclist. And he's like, whoa, fucking shit phone. Fucking. It was funny. I kept trying to like help him out. Like, you're in the wrong gear. You're in the wrong gear. Dude is almost 50. Yeah, I know. But he did pretty good. Yeah.

And then I think he had so much fun because Chris fell over. And I've never seen a man- That is Natsuki's favorite thing. I've never seen a man cackle as much as that. Because Chris was like trying to capture something on like his GoPro. Yeah.

and he was filming me. And then I guess he was going a little fast and went into my bike. And this is like Looney Tunes ass crash sound. Actually, let me play it for you. This crash noise is so funny. And every time I hear it, I- - Someone should just edit the fucking Tom and Jerry scream on top of it. - It's so- - All right, listen to this. This is like this wonky ass. -

Oh my God. What did you just do? What did you just do? It just fell over while we were like in the city. Just like 180 on the bike. It was so funny. It was so funny. And every time I hear that sound, it just...

It makes me laugh so much. It sounds like when, you know, like a constant character falls down the stairs. Yeah, it's literally that sound. Like family guy falling down the stairs sound effect. And then... Was he alright? Yeah, he was fine. I like we all start like five minutes after laughing. Yeah. Was he alright? It was like a two...

like a two mile an hour cycle. I mean, he did fall on like the hardest road. It was like some kind of like traditional town, right? Fucking flipped and fell on the road.

- Damn. - Like, yeah. I remember that was such a strange place as well. I can't remember where that was. That was like right before Hanma, like Nagoya. But we used to go to Legoland too. That was so fun. - Oh shit. - The Legoland? - Yeah, when we were cycling through Nagoya, which is possibly the worst place I've ever cycled in my life. - Nagoya?

- Bro, it sucks. - Yeah, it is the most city in Japan. - Everyone in Japan makes fun of Nagoya for being like a soulless city. - It is a bit. - Admittedly we're cycling through the outskirts, but it was just endless. It's so big. I didn't realize how big Nagoya is. It took a day and a half to cycle through Nagoya.

And it was just shit roads, shit everything. Nothing was beautiful. Even when there was like scenery, it was shit. And the only good thing was Legoland. Right. Which was really, dude, Legoland's sick. Really? The miniatures, the miniatures alone. I've always wanted to go.

I think I would never go to Nagoya just to go to it. - Again, I was about to say like, that's the only reason why I haven't gone, 'cause I'd have to go to Nagoya. - If I just happened to be in Nagoya, I wouldn't go there for like half a day. Like, it's a great, like we went for two hours and honestly, I felt like that was great. Like I think two, three hours, you'd have a great time. 'Cause the miniatures are so sick.

Like it's like they've done entire cities. They have like a Hokkaido, Tokyo, Osaka, Nagoya. Oh, hell yeah. And like all of the stuff's like moving. What's that famous place with the cable carts? They have literal like cable carts. Yeah, and like Hakone, like the mountainside of Lego. It's awesome. Damn. And the detail is like phenomenal. So even like as a grown-ass adult, I was like loving it. And oh my God, dude, Chris had like,

There's a clip of Chris. I was like, we should go to the pirate world. He was like, I don't want to go to the fucking pirate world. And I was like, all right, well, okay. We'll just go check it out. And we go there. And the main attraction is this...

you can go on this ship and you have these water guns. And then all of the park like visitors also have water guns. So when the ship's going around, people can shoot. - Oh, cool. - But the people on the boat can shoot back. So when Chris learned of this, Chris was like, "All right then, let's give it a shot." And this like five year old kid comes around and Chris starts going like,

demolishing this kid, like absolutely like hydroblasting this poor kid. And then for the next 20 minutes, all Chris does is just fucking maniacal laughing, spraying all these kids and their families. And like this one kid has this plastic sword and he's begging Chris to like stop. He's like, no, no, no, no. Like surrender, surrender. And Chris is just like maniacal laughing, spraying this kid. And I've never seen Chris laugh like that. And then afterwards, right?

We're like, oh, that was funny. And then we go to this other ride. Apparently Ian told us that the kid came out of the ride, fuming, soared up and was about to like run at Chris. And then like a parent stopped him.

So Chris just ruined this kid's day. And there was this other thing. There was just so many rides where you could like mess with the customers. It's like a supervillain backstory. Yeah, honestly. Like he's just made... Yeah, he literally made this kid into like a guy. Syndrome. He like made this kid into like fucking evil ass.

It was so funny. I've never seen him so full of joy. He was loving Legoland. It was great. I've never seen him so happy. I don't think I'll ever see him that happy ever again. It was fun. And then we went to the worst part, easily, the cycle over. We had to basically cycle over the base of Fuji. Oh, yeah. And apparently, I didn't know this. Someone on Reddit made this really cool elevation graph of all the cyclathons.

And it was by far, by far the biggest hill we'd ever done. I think it was 12, it was 1.2 kilometers of elevation we had to go up. - Jesus. - I don't know how many, I think Burj Khalifa is what, like 400 meters or something? - Burj Khalifa is 800, I believe. - Is it? - Yeah. - So a Burj Khalifa and a half to cycle up. - Jesus Christ. That's like four Tokyo towers. - Yeah, we could have done, I think that was day, that was the second to last day actually. So we could have done,

So originally Pete was gonna join us on that day and cycle with us, but Pete was like, "Oh." - I'm gonna be in the car. - So Pete only cycled for one day? - So Pete did one and a half days. So the day before the, so the day 12, the day before the big, big, hard day, Pete joined us for like 20 kilometers. And he had like a bit of a hill, not that bad. But Pete was like,

man, Pete was dying. It was tough. It was very steep to be fair. But it was not like a really long hill. It was just very steep and then it was done. But Pete was like, that's gotta be as bad as the one that you guys do tomorrow. And we showed him the elevation and it's literally like this versus this. It's like not even close. He's like, what?

We could have avoided it, but if we'd avoided it, we still would have had to go up. It would have been 500 meters less climbing. So it still would have been 700 meters. But you would have had to done a big round around. But it would have been an extra, I think, 15 kilometers. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And we just kind of felt like...

It's not really worth because we also get more downhill than we're done. So we do less distance, more downhill. The reward is bigger. And it was so good because we had like 40 kilometers of just pure downhill. It was beautiful because we went through like...

the mountains around like the the mountain like the base around fuji and it was so cool yeah because it's just all tea fields yeah and we went into like this lord of the rings ass forest uh it's really dense really tall forestry main set died for a little bit but then uh we went like and then on the other side of fuji there's a big military base uh and we're just fields it looks like wales and we were just cycling all around it and it's really really nice uh it was great and um

- Yeah, then the last day was like a crazy day. Pete cycled with us. So we were a lot slower than normal. Don't tell Pete that, he doesn't like it when I say that. - Still made it before sunset though. - But we still did make, we had to leave early and, oh, so, so, okay. So we did like a bit of a fuck up on the logistics 'cause we were supposed to do 95 kilometers on the last day, which would have been the longest day by far. And we kind of realized, yeah, this is not gonna work 'cause we were finishing late.

Like when we did the ADK with you, it was raining. We finished like 6.30. Yeah, it was like sunset by the time we finished. It was like, yeah, we just got there by the time. And then the day before we'd finished like seven and it was pitch black. So we were kind of like, oh fuck, okay, we got to figure out how to do less distance. So-

about four or five days before the last day, we started cycling an extra five kilometers just to take that off. And so by the end of it, I think we'd shaved off 35K, so it ended up being like a, or 30K, so it ended up being a 65 kilometer cycle, which is one of our shortest days. And we thought, okay, well, we should be able to get there easily by five. But even then we were still like a bit behind and I'm not blaming Pete, but we were definitely slower.

It was a very flat day. Not any names, but I'm just saying as a matter of fact, it was slower paced than usual. Listen, I mean, I've been cycling for 13 days at that point. I could have cycled up a cliff vertically, I'm pretty sure. So obviously Pete, who's doing it for one, half a day before, this is not going to be as fast. Sure. And I think we also had some, there was some technical issues, like my stuff started breaking and whatnot. It was very annoying, but managed to do it. And then the last day we raised $1,000.

more money in the last day than cyclothon one entirely. - Damn. - Yeah, it was insane because when I worked, 'cause I was in like the UK at that time, went to bed or like you stopped like the second to last day. I was like, oh, he's gonna get so close to the middle, but he's gonna like an extra like, what was it like 300K or something? - We finished the last day on about 700, second to last day on about 700,000. - Yeah, about 700K. So you got an extra 300K and I was like, damn.

"All right, well, we're just gonna get close to the mill." And I wake up and it was just like, "Oh, Connor reached the mill." I was like, "What the fuck happened? What the fuck did I miss?" - You went crazy. - Yeah, yeah, yeah. - You went crazy. Yeah, there was just like, last day it was incredible. People just started like- - Yeah, and it wasn't just like one oil daddy dropping huge money, right? - No, no, that's what made it like really impressive in a sense that like,

It was not like the event was not built on all of these like giant rich people. I mean, obviously there was plenty of those people who gave incredible sums of money. And I'm very grateful to those people. But in the last day, that was what was really touching to me was the fact that I literally couldn't keep up. My text to speech that was, you know, if you donate $25,

they would play the message. At one point, I think it was like, it would have been like an hour behind the live donations. - Yeah, 'cause I think I saw that last day, I think concurrent you had like 50K or something? - Yeah, I think right at the peak at the end, it was like 60K. - Jesus. - And it was a bit of a shame 'cause also the moment we got there for some, I guess 'cause there's so many,

around the internet was kind of struggling with the speeches and stuff. So we missed about two minutes, the speech, which is a shame. - We should be on Chris's one, right? - We'll be on Chris's video and we did get the VOD up right away. So people did want to watch it. We had, we uploaded the like 4k. - If Chris gets it edited. - And so like, yeah, so actually- - I'll see you three months later. - Yeah, I mean, well actually the Chris's video for the Cyclophone 2 came out

- Just before the day before we started the third one. - Oh, is that what that was? - Yeah. - Yeah, because I got confused. - It was Cyclothon 2 that came out a year and like a month later. - Yeah, 'cause I thought like when I saw that video in the sub feed, I was like, wait, but they just start, yeah, they haven't started this cyclothon yet. So I'm like, how is he getting this footage? - Yeah, well, so that, so I think Cyclothon 2 was like really tough.

because we were doing way more distance. On this cyclothon, I think on average, we did about 80K a day or like 75. On cyclothon two, I think the average was like 90, 95. And there was a lot more. The hills weren't... We didn't have any hill that was worse than the hill we did in three. But...

One thing that was really annoying about Kyushu, and I guess Google Maps is really bad at this, is that if there's hills that go up and down very quickly, Google, especially in the mountains, just recognizes it as flat.

And what it will say is- Well, it doesn't just take the average. Yeah, it will just say flat. And then all it will note sometimes as well, and you'll notice if you've ever done this as well in a very mountainous place with bad internet, sometimes Google will just do this thing where it does like a vertical 100 meter like jump. Okay. And it won't recognize that it was like a gradual or that it was like hilly and like-

up and down. And it's very weird because there was one section where I had no internet and it was like the steepest fucking thing I've ever had to walk up. I could barely walk up it. I was literally like walking up it like this with my bike. And Google recognized it. Actually, maybe that one was. It was just a straight line of 400 meters.

And Kyushu was kind of really tough 'cause the weather was shit. We had like three days out of the seven, oh, like three or four days out of the nine that were rain.

It was way more hilly up and down constantly. And it was way too much distance. So Chris was miserable and thus was not very good on camera. So like you watch like on two video and you see that like after like day two, Chris just doesn't talk. And then on top of that, like I feel like I had schizophrenia because I was just talking to myself and Chris was just listening to Stalin audio books. So like, I think that made it so that it was way harder for both of us

I don't blame Chris 'cause like it was just mentally draining. - Yeah, of course. - It was fucked. It was just not fun. Obviously it was a huge success. - It's just funny to hear that dichotomy between you and Chris. - Yeah, I mean, I was really trying to make the most of it, but it was really like fucked. The second one was really not fun. This one was so much better in every single way. And even like, you know, like Chris was,

I think being on camera all the time is tough. But I mean, Chris nailed it this time. Chris was super like engaged and really had a great time. And I think 'cause we just said like, look, let's just do a little less distance. Let's try and do stuff like Legoland. Let's try and have a bit more fun. 'Cause I think we are better at cycling as well. So if we need to do like 75K, we can do it a lot quicker.

So I think it was a good move. And that's why Cyclothon 2 video I don't think came out. Because he just didn't want to watch the video. Because I think Paul had told me that he had, I mean, Chris will come on, I'm sure, and talk about it at some point. But that video was done in like November.

But Christian didn't watch it. I don't think... As a YouTuber, I can sympathize because I'm sure we've all done this where you must have filmed a video one time that you knew was not a good video or a good experience. Yeah. And it was almost hard to watch the video back. Oh, yeah. And I really put off...

doing some videos because I know I'm going to have to watch the footage and like review it and make changes. And knowing that that one hour video experience would be such a horrible watch. Yeah. Because I really don't want to relive some videos. And so I can understand from that point, I'm sympathetic, but it was the day before he was like, it'd be good advertising. I was like, I don't know about that. So he, but he's, he's, he told me he's dead set on getting this one out by like the end of May.

So we'll see it at the end of July. - Yeah, I'll be impressed if you can get it out. I mean, it would make sense 'cause this one's, it was such a, my immediate thought when we finished this, 'cause obviously we had Tokyo Tower this time, which was really like a, took a whole lot time to get. Geeks Plus spent a lot of time negotiating with Tokyo Tower 'cause apparently you can't just be, you can't just have money and rent out Tokyo Tower. There needs to be like a reason, like a special cause. And so obviously you'd think, oh, well, it's just charity.

Not quite. Like you, you actually, we had to actually like really like, uh, with, with the help of geeks and, uh, uh, with the immune deficiency foundation kind of like pitch why it was a good reason. Right. Um, and luckily they, they, they were like, yeah, okay, that's cool. Then you have to, uh, pay Tokyo tower. And then, uh, we had help with, uh, uh, one of the, the things in, uh, Tokyo tower red, uh,

who, I don't know if you've ever been there. Have you seen this thing? It's kind of nuts. They had kind of helped us do that. So that was really fun. And then we had like a whole, like a marathon-esque finish. We had like the gates and then we had like the interview stage where the sponsors- - The interview stage looked lit. - It was so well done. I was so nervous because

I kind of trusted geeks to do it because I was cycling and I tried to do as much of the stuff as I could before I left. As we were getting closer and closer to the date, I hadn't really heard anything about what was happening. So I was like, do we have like a stage? Do we have like microphones? Like what's happening? They're like, yeah, we can get a microphone. It'll be sorted. Don't worry.

And then I was like, Chris, what are we going to talk about? I was like, okay, we'll just do like 30 minutes. We'll chat. We'll do speeches. We'll say thank you. And then we'll just do that. Yeah. And yeah, I didn't know anything. I knew there was gonna be a gate and there'll be a stage and a microphone. But then when everyone had like these party poppers and everyone came out, there was so many people. Hmm.

It was awesome. It was like, it was perfect. It was such a cool ending. And so, so worth thinking about doing that and having that epic like conclusion. Cause obviously the ones before it, we would just go to McDonald's.

and then we would just end the stream. - It's pretty epic. - It was kind of cool. - That's pretty epic by itself. - I mean, it had its own charm in its own way. 'Cause it was kind of like, we just did this crazy thing and then we just sit and eat a bunch of fast food. - Yeah. - Which was kind of cool in its own way. - It's a reward you got. - And that was- - That's like the after credit scene. - Yeah, it's literally just the after credit scene. But I think having that amazing like epic end really helps like,

kind of, I don't know, give it the, like finish the emotional journey. Especially when this one was two weeks long. You know, cause the last one was nine and the extra five days, I think really, you know, it's something that like, I realized I watch like AGGQ and that's on, right? And I sit down and I always, every day I make time to watch that. And that's like a week long or something or a week and a half, like two weeks is a long fucking time to do something. And so I think that's also why the donations are,

you know, the last day was so many people giving, you know, $25, $50, whatever amount. Cause I think that people had been watching it. And then it's just my thought. I don't know if it is true that people have been watching it for two weeks now. Like, you know what? Fuck it. I'll give, I'll give 25. Well, I'm sure they also had like that emotional attachment as well, because I think everyone who was watching it wanted to see it go up to that million.

- I think so too. - Especially when when- - Everyone like banded together and was like, okay, we have a common goal that will make this whole experience worth it for Connor and everyone involved is to just like get it to that milestone. And yeah, they did it. - It's been really awesome and really cool to see 'cause

I think with it being also just totally community driven, like there was no like big daddy corporate sponsor that was throwing down cash. Like it was literally just, you know, and it wasn't like a majority of like big streamers giving all the money. It's like, it's literally just people who were very generous and gave what they could. And it really felt, I don't know, it felt really special. It was really cool. And I mean, my immediate thought after I did it was how the fuck do I ever top this?

I have that streamer and the YouTuber brain of like, oh God, I have to do better than this. - I just hit peak. - Do you want to do a cyclothon four? - But like even like any kind of emotional high like that. But like, do I want to do a cyclothon four? That's a great question. Something, I think that,

- Me and Chris just have so much fun cycling that like, even if it like wasn't as grandiose, I think we could still do it just because we're like, I think we really enjoy the idea of just getting to banter and exercise for like however many days. - And you honestly get to see Japan in the best way possible. - As we, me and Chris have said, like cycling in Japan is such a cool thing

cool way of doing it. I would also recommend e-bikes for most people. I don't think you need to go through the pain and suffering. Cause like some parts of Japan are unavoidable mountain ranges. Like there's just a big mountain that separates Nara and Osaka. - Yeah. - Nara and Nagoya.

- And Orsaka. - And Nara and Orsaka, both have, but it's just like ridiculous. So I'd say rent an e-bike or get an e-bike and just, it's amazing 'cause you can easily cycle from like, there's always a town within like 50 to 70 kilometers.

of another town. So you can easily do that and see some beautiful sites. - Get some padding on that seat. - Yeah. - Get some padding. - And also get a big boy seat, get an e-bike, and then you can easily get like mount your bags to the back. And you know, booking business hotels in Japan is super easy to do the day of. So if you wanna stay somewhere at the night off and then be like, "Ah, it's raining, I don't wanna cycle today." You know, maybe get a train, you know, stuff like that.

I think cycling through Japan is just the best way to see Japan. Especially the kind of routes that we did. That first like 10 days is so, actually all that's really beautiful. Just avoid Nagoya. Just cut out Nagoya and it's the most beautiful thing ever. - I mean, it's kind of difficult 'cause it's literally smack bang in the middle. - It sucks, man. It sucks so much to cycle. It's no fun to cycle. But everywhere else was so stunning and had so many like cool charms.

Kobe sucked though too, 'cause it's just literally one giant mountain. You go down and then one giant mountain to get out. - It's a lot of valleys. - It's just so many valleys and it was just not fun. We made some cool friends. We met some like, even in like Himeji around that area and Osaka, all the people, the locals were like super cool and would talk to us. Made a friends with the cyclist.

while we were waiting for red lights in Osaka. - Oh, I saw that clip. - He was so chill. I was like, "I hate these red lights." He's like, "Yeah." He's like, "Where you going?" We're like, "Osaka Shinkai." He's like, "I'm going there too." So every red light we would talk. And then afterwards he was like, "You know what? I'll just direct you guys." And they followed me. - Oh, hell yeah. - Then at one point Chris's GoPro fell off and we lost him and he waited for us. And then he was just like chatting with us the whole time. We were like, "Yeah, we're streaming." And he was like, "Dude, that's sick." - That's so nice. - He was awesome. Yeah, yeah. He was really cool.

It was just really awesome. Like getting to cycle, stop at cool restaurants, meet cool people. It was just awesome. And I think that for that reason, I think I would definitely do it again. I don't know if I'll ever be able to like do it like that again. - Would you ever consider doing it in like a different country? - That's the next question, right? 'Cause it's like, how do you- - Maybe across like Europe or some shit. - Yeah, yeah. - 'Cause some countries are not- - Just avoid the Alps. - Yeah.

I'm sure like Denmark through like Netherlands, Germany, that would probably be a nice route. Yeah. Cause it's like built for cyclists. Yeah. I love the way. I think the only concern is that I would like need to test internet somehow. Like I'm, I'm pretty confident now that I can rock up anywhere in Japan. Yeah. Definitely not UK. UK is just like not well connected. People like Wales cycle fun. I'm like, Oh yeah, great. You'll see five minutes of it.

Like, no, you won't. You know what I mean? Like it's the internet's so bad in certain parts of Europe. I'm sure Netherlands, Denmark and all those places would be great. Yeah. Germany probably fine. So I think like maybe I just would need to figure out a way to test the internet and make sure I have enough internet devices for the whole time. Yeah. Don't get like throttled into oblivion. Yeah. But it's, it's, yeah, it was really fun. And I, I think for that reason, I'll probably end up doing another one, but I've already told people, I'm like, it might not be as big.

Like this thing was crazy. Like this was a lot. And I also didn't lose weight.

That's crazy to me. That's crazy. So I did a full body and fat test before I left. Admittedly, there were two different machines. I don't know if the different machines have different testing methods. But I lost three kilograms of muscle. And I actually know I lose or gain. I think I lost one kilogram of body fat as well. No, I gained one kilogram of body fat.

- Wait. - Yeah, I lost three kilograms of muscle and gained one kilogram of fat. - What is going on? - How is it not the other way around? - Yeah. - Dude, you'd think so. - You'd think it'd be like you gain more muscle in your legs and you lose the body fat. - I think my legs are already yoked. So I don't think it helped at all. And I think I was literally just doing like cardio. And I think,

Because I was doing so much, I noticed as well that my Fitbit, my calories was way less than last cycle-thon on average. Oh. Because I think I would have gotten just generally fitter. Right, right, right. And so I was burning, I was using less energy. I was also trying to be as efficient as possible when cycling because I didn't want to tire myself out. Sure. So I think, yeah, that's why. And I definitely ate a lot.

Because I just didn't want to be tired. And I remember last cycle-a-thon, I definitely didn't eat enough. And there were some days where I felt just exhausted. And I never felt that this time. So I guess I just overate.

- Also my butt, like you mentioned the butt pain. My butt, like the area where I would sit, it's like specifically there's like two circles on my butt where I would always sit. It's like sandpaper. - Yeah, 'cause I asked Connor- - The skin had been like sanded down. So it didn't hurt. - I asked Connor on like the first day, it's just like, "You know how guitarists get calluses?" - It's kind of like that. - Do you have a calloused ass? - I'm like, "How long does it take before I get a callous ass?"

- Three cycle thons. The first two my butt hurt all the time. And this time it didn't hurt at all. Honestly, the only thing that started hurting towards the end was my hands, which didn't normally happen either. But now my palms are really like fucked. - Like cows. - Yeah, they're like really like built. My neck has always been fine too. Your body's pretty good at remembering like not hurting.

Well, if you've done it a bunch. - Yeah, of course. - Your body has probably like the weirdest fucking build now where it's like spiked into like all your legs and your ass. - Dude, I noticed when I was walking after the cyclothon that my inner thighs would rub against each other a little bit more and I have to like take a wider stance while walking. But I try to keep up with the exercise, but the last few days I've just been eating and drinking a bunch with friends.

and now that we're in australia that's gonna continue oh god so i've just all any potential fitness gain that i already had which was zero apparently apparently i gained weight it's gone now um so great lovely so good um but you know you know it was definitely worth it and yeah good stuff you know it's good as well because i've been working with the uh the charity as well the immune deficiency foundation i've been

Before this, I have a call with them like every month or we would just go over what they're doing, what the plan is to do with the money. How can I help more? It's been really great. Cause like, I think that,

as a YouTuber, the way I used to raise money for charity back when I was like, I don't know, like 21, 22, I would just kind of raise money. I'd be like, I hope it's working. You know what I mean? I'd be like, everyone says this charity is good. And I'm just like, I'd be like, I kind of felt, I had this weird epiphany. I was like, I'm asking people to give money.

And I don't really know where it's going. I don't fully understand what kind of impact it's making. What you're raising money for. Yeah, so it was really helpful this time, especially because I think also that's a problem when you work with really big charities is that it's kind of hard to...

talk to someone and kind of have a bit more transparency but the immunity foundation is a bit of a like a middle-sized charity so they're they're a bit more open and i can talk with them and have a bit more of a friendly relationship with them and so that's been really cool seeing where all the money's going um and they're so sweet they sent me like a bunch of videos from kids who uh they really know how to tug my heartstrings a bunch of kids that were like really into streaming uh who got to like so they a lot of the the money that goes to

flying out like doctors to raise awareness because the primary immunodeficiency and CVID are like really like unknown diseases in terms of awareness.

And you've like I didn't realize a lot of the money goes towards telling doctors like hey You should be like looking out for this right? Yeah, just aren't Aren't thinking about testing. Yeah, so a lot of them get flown out to these conventions But they also fly out patients to meet other patients because it's very lonely and to also get to speak with doctors and specialists in the field and so

They give scholarships to kids and patients to go to these conventions to do it. And I got videos from some kids that really love streaming. They're like, thank you, Connor, for raising money. Your money directly allowed me to go to this. And I was like, god damn it.

If they're trying to secure me to raise money for them, I'm like, damn it. But no, it's really sweet. I send the messages back. Then even these kids are trying to fundraise and they're like 10 years old and they're trying to fundraise. I'm like, you should be worried about like which game you're going to complete next or like

do you play Pokemon red or blue? Like, this is not, you should not be concerned with fundraising, but it's so sweet they're doing that. Red or blue? What is this, 96? Yeah, yeah, yeah. I remember distinctly when my parents, I had to be like, do I want Pokemon fire red or leaf green? Yeah. And I asked for both. Yeah.

and i don't know why but i love those games so much hell yeah uh but yeah that so that's that's been that's been what i the main thing that i've been up to yeah i mean it was like two weeks over this past month i know yeah fucking yapathon over here but uh it was yeah i mean it was it was definitely like one of the the best things i've ever done and i think fuck yeah it was by far an improvement on the other two cyclathons in every way possible because you know like when uh

when Ludwig does events and stuff like that, I speak a lot a bit about it. He doesn't like repeating events. He always wants to do something new. But I always think, I think if sometimes you do an event that's great and you're like, I think I know how you can just make this better.

in a way that will make it like so much more impactful. And I think that this is definitely an example. - Also you just enjoy cycling. - I also just like doing it. - I just like cycling, I think. - And it's like, it's kind of crazy 'cause we've been, you know, we've been doing the big productions with the Trash Taste Hawaii special. And I've done some of my own big shows. We did the charity auction. And I just kind of like, it's kind of a weird event that's such a big event that is just so simple.

it's literally just me with an IRL backpack on a bike. And like, that's it. But it has like such a profound impact and I think viewers really enjoy it.

And it's just so easy. Yeah. I mean, we've had, we've had all different stages of like, of like production from like small and scuffed to the Hawaii special, which hopefully you guys have watched. Maybe it's still age restricted. Maybe. Maybe they've edited out my fucking cock. Um,

My speedo cock that we think got age restricted. But that was like by far the biggest production we've ever done. Which of course that has to be the one like age restricted, but like three individual film crews following us around everywhere we go professionally. And that was like a whole team thing.

getting like for just one day. - There's so many people behind the camera. - Following us around Hawaii. - Yeah, it was like a crew of like 15. - Yeah, yeah, yeah. A crew of like 15 people. - It was like 20, 25, dude. - Yeah, yeah, yeah. - All together. - Yeah, it was a lot of people. - Not including like the pre-planning and like pre-production. - Yeah, exactly. - Yeah, we spent like fucking,

Half like maybe like a quarter of the year's patreon budget on just like that one video. Yeah, which was insane Thank you patrons. So thank you very much patrons for like be giving us a chance to do this And it still be demonetized and age restricted and we'd be like, okay, thank God. We've got the patrons Yeah, but yeah, like that was such an interesting experience just see what a actual professional production is like as well that is I

scheduled, managed, and just has such a massive production crew. And on the other side of it, sometimes you have one guy with a backpack and that's all you need. And you know, it's like now that I've done everything, it's not like one, you can't really say that one production is better than another production. They both have different strengths, different charm. It also totally depends on the idea as well.

or the actual core of the video, sometimes simple as best. And then other times you're like, all right, in order to like fully maximize this idea, we gotta go big or go home. - Yeah, yeah, yeah. - The only like thing that we did that was kind of cool tech wise was that

how to send a drone live feed to the stream. - Oh, cool. - So occasionally we could, but it was kind of choppy, but yeah, we could- - As it is. - Occasionally we had a drone POV on the stream. - Hell yeah. - That's pretty cool. - I know that there's some other ways to make it look better, but I don't mean, either way, it still wouldn't be a production, right? Like it would never be that. I think it's better not being that. I think being able to follow the journey is what's important. - Well, it's insane just to think about how much YouTube production has,

- Evolved even in the time that we've been doing YouTube productions. We've gone from a time when I've had to convince Joey to get an editor to have to, did you remember Joey? - Yeah, I remember. - Did you remember? - I was in Singapore. - Yeah, yeah, yeah. I think you should get an editor Joey to now like running- - Yeah, Garnt couldn't fucking believe. He was like, "You still edit your own videos after however many years?" And I was just like, "Well, what's the problem?"

And then, yeah, he convinced me and then Mudon joined. Yeah. But no, it is true. Like, it's just crazy thinking that, you know, like getting a microphone that's like better than a blue Yeti was like, whoa, this is like high production shit. So now it's like, you know, yeah, the stuff that we did on the Hawaii special, for instance, which is like,

and a bunch of other teams and stuff like that. And yeah, I don't know. It's been interesting. It's been an interesting learning experience for sure. Like, 'cause you know, I think we are very, you know, honored and like in a privileged position to be able to even like try, you know, to do that kind of stuff. Right.

But yeah. - But I think it's important to like, I don't know. It's always like a balance to like, as a YouTuber you feel like, but sometimes I like the scuffed, you know? Sometimes having like a professional production, which is cool for like certain projects, but sometimes,

going back to your roots and just have like filming shit on your phone or something like that you know there's there is a certain charm i mean phones are so good now yeah they are it's really honestly youtube it's kind of hard to distinguish at times uh it is yeah i mean they're very good and i also think that there's a world where you know uh

and I think we're pretty good at this where the different levels of quality can coexist on the same channel. - Yeah. - Like I think that like, you know, one live stream will be like on a bike and another would be like amazing production. The same for this channel, I think. Not every special will be like that, but I think having the different vibe for each special really gives it a different feel. As long as the footage is watchable and the audio is good. - Yeah. - That's all that really matters.

- Yeah, 'cause I definitely think like that idea is something that was kind of stopping us from producing as many specials as we're trying to do this year. 'Cause like we were constantly thinking of like, okay, how do we one up this next special? How do we keep like getting a better and better? And then we suddenly realized like, we can't keep doing that 'cause then otherwise it'll be like,

several years in between specials 'cause it would just take so long. And that's why we decided to do like the more simplest stuff, like the Kendo special and like even the main cafe special to an extent. And we realized like, oh, it's not necessarily all about like doing the best production at times. It's just like, just fucking do it and have fun with it. And hopefully the audience enjoys it. - Speaking of YouTuber production, what do you guys think about

the watcher controversy. - Oh my God. - That happened recently. - Jesus. Do you know about it? - Yeah, I did see it. I mean, someone must've told them that they thought it was a good idea. I just can't fathom it. - I don't know. Yeah, I can't imagine. I was like, I don't know why they all got together and they were like, "Yeah, that sounds like a good idea."

- So if you haven't been keeping up with like YouTuber drama, this group recently that I believe originated from Buzzfeed. - Yeah. - Yeah. - Similarly to like someone's group like the Try Guys broke off from Buzzfeed and did their own YouTuber series. I wasn't really aware of them. I'd seen- - I've seen a couple of their videos. - I'd seen some of the, a couple of the videos from like the Buzzfeed era. I didn't realize they had broken off and made their own group.

but they had a very dedicated group that were doing very, very well. And then they decided for about one day, maybe two days, I don't know how long this decision lasted for, that they were going to cut Say Goodbye to YouTube

and start uploading on their own streaming service behind a pay roll. For a fee. For a fee. Which, you know, we have something not exactly like that. We have a Patreon, you know, where we have content on our Patreon, which we feel is not exactly the content that we...

would upload on YouTube as it is, which is why we feel comfortable uploading on Patreon. But, you know, this group made a decision to like say, hey, we're going to keep continuing making the content that we've made this entire time, but now we're going to put it behind a paywall. And the internet was pissed. I mean, you know...

Kind of rightfully so, to be honest. Yeah, the golden rule is like your main content, the thing that people come for and find you for should never be paywalled. Yeah. You know, obviously like, obviously we have Patreon and we have paywalled content that's like very small, but it's not like-

the main show. - Right. - It's like, I think if we- - We don't pay all the podcasts. - No, no. - Well, hold on. - Let's not light it off completely right now, Joe. - Here's an idea, guys. I have a brilliant idea. - Actually, like one of the main things that like very, like, I mean, what The Yard does and I think what like Fear Ann does, like they pay all like the last hour of the podcast. - Oh, I see.

But it's almost just like an additional podcast. Yeah, right, right. But they did that from the very start, which I think is like...

That's what it's all about, right? I think it's like- Setting expectations. Whatever the expectation is from the get-go, that's what it is. And if you don't like that, you don't have to become a fan. You can be like, I don't gel with that. I don't really fuck with that way of making content, so I'm not going to watch. But I think the problem is that when you've given something for free for so long, there needs to be a damn good reason why you would take it away. Now, obviously- Because I like movies.

money i mean there's pretty money and you know i didn't i i definitely because i've i assume they're based in like california yeah no doubt their cost of running a business is way higher of course than what it would be to do it in like idaho yeah um i mean like if if we were to make like

four Hawaii specials in a year, we'd probably like spend the entire Patreon budget. Oh yeah. And, and, and more. And they were like trying, they were like trying to like make that a, like a kind of like a weekly. Like I think if Trash Taste was in,

In California, it would be a lot harder to do certain things just because of how expensive everything is to film. 100%. You know, and that's the reason why when we started the podcast, literally we just had Maylene who pressed the record button on the camera, who was just helping us because she wanted to help us succeed. But that was literally just us three in a camera, which I think makes sense, right? And even if we paywalled everything then, it still wouldn't really make sense because you're like...

three dudes in a room. But I think the one good thing is that they realized they fucked up and they backpedaled. I'm curious if it will, if it,

hurts or benefits them having this giant controversy? Because they backpedaled and I feel like the loyal, loyal subscribers are happy and are cool with it. But I wonder if they got any new viewers from all the, because I've never fucking heard of them. Well, yeah, I was about to say, like, I'm sure a lot of people found out about them through this controversy, right? And maybe, you know, they're like- Maybe that's a big brain way of handling it.

- Yeah, exactly. And like, you know, unlike a lot of like, as Charlie said in his video, like they actually did something very commendable and very rare that YouTubers ever do. They actually said, sorry. - I can't believe that's the gold standard. - Yeah, that's the gold standard for YouTubers. They actually said, I'm sorry. - The gold standard of apologizing now is,

acknowledging that you made a mistake and making changes. And that's somehow just the gold standard of YouTube apologies. Exactly. Which is ridiculous to think.

I think we've got like a really special thing that we can make content and do it for viewers who can't afford to get to like, you know, or just don't want to go on the Patreon. It's really special that we can just upload content and we can make a living.

and people can get what they want for free. That's so fucking cool. And a lot of the time it's way fucking better than the stuff that I wanna watch on like a streaming platform or TV, right? 'Cause it's like so niche. Like whenever John uploads a two hour video, I'm like, this is better than movies.

Like this is so much more like dopamine for my brain. - Well, it's interesting you say that because one of the big reasons why the Watcher, why that group wanted to go to this like new model was because they said, we want to make TV

television like we we want to make television shows sure like we we want to make television productions and i'm you know i remember hearing that and i'm like is that should that be the end goal for like youtubers to make television productions or is that something that you think

doesn't really belong on YouTube. - See, that's the thing, right? It's like, I think it depends on who you ask. Like some people will say like, that's almost regressing in a way, right? Like just going back to the whole TV thing. Whereas like, you know, some people say like, well, you know, I think it's pretty amazing that like a group of people who don't have any experience in making TV productions quality stuff is like actually going out there and doing something. - Okay, when we say like TV production, like quality, what do we mean by that?

Because I feel like looking good is no longer an exclusive thing for giga expensive cameras. I feel like we can make shit look good now. And the audio is not a problem now. So what do we mean by TV quality? Is it just like the thing you're filming or is it like...

Is it the editing? Is it like the whole package? - I think it's just the whole package. - It's the vibe. - Yeah, yeah, yeah. - It's the vibe of the video. - Don't talk to me about vibe. You don't know vibe. - It's about not only like the looking good, but I guess the- - Overall feel. - Overall idea of like, you know, the overall idea of what you are doing or what you are presenting to the audience. - Like for example, a lot of people said like our recent Hawaii special was like of TV quality.

Like, what do you think made that special? Make people say that. - Garnt wearing a Speedo. - I mean, that was pretty spicy. - I feel like it's a weird thing to say you want to make TV quality. It's like, I think there's a, you know, it's more affordable. - Yeah. - But it can also, it can be very expensive if you want it to be. It doesn't necessarily translate to difference for the viewers. - Sure. - Go on Alex, give him my tea.

He's come bearing the tea. Like the thing that for the Hawaii special, the reason why like something like that would cost a lot of money is because especially when you're filming not where you live. Hmm.

There's a lot, like there's immediately like 500 more challenges that appear. Like we don't know anything. We don't know what to film. - Well, that was like logistically- - Logistically like a very tough video. - A very hard video to film 'cause we were all moving. It wasn't like a one set. - Everything was tough, yeah. - They had to follow us with professional cameras in three different vehicles. - And we had to do it all in one set.

- Get permission everywhere, get helicopters, all these moving parts. And that's something that only really like a crew can handle 'cause you can't really do that. But if you gave me enough days in Japan, I'm sure I could find some cool stuff, film that 'cause we know the area really well.

but it's like being able to do it in such a small amount of time and guaranteed quality and logistically. - Well, it's funny because we talk about YouTubers wanting to make TV quality productions, but I feel like let's even like,

big high budget films and, you know, big celebrities, the kind of like strat is to try and humanize the actors that's recently or like historically have been like put on a big pedestal, not much known about them, but like you look at something like Dune 2, for example, or Dune, where they have like such a big push on like TikTok and

like other different social medias to, you know, let the audience see what these people are getting on behind the scenes and just having like a more personalized view of them aside from just seeing them on the big screen. And I think it's interesting that, you know, even if you want to do a big production now, you can't, like the,

the big way to catch an audience is not only having the big production, but you need to humanize the people like behind the production as well, which is what YouTube has done for, or YouTube and every social media has done for a very, very long time in general. And yeah, it's been very, very interesting to see that kind of like switch up, I guess, of celebrity culture, you know, the fact that you do need someone more relatable now.

- Yeah, no, it is fascinating. - Everyone's gotta be relatable at all times. - Everyone's gotta be so relatable. I guess the era of like celebrity worship is over in terms of like- - I wouldn't say so. I think like musical stars are still kind of like that. 'Cause we almost like, I think there is an appeal of having some people who, and the reason why they're like worship or celebrated, 'cause they are so almost otherworldly in the fact that- - You talking about idols?

- Not idols, but like, you know, you think like the, I don't know, the biggest music stars or something. It's like the appeal is that they are this like insane, they're living these insane lives, making all this crazy music and, you know,

I think there's something that our human brains are intrigued by when you see someone who's like, I don't, I don't, I never fly commercial. I fly a private jet and I make music and I travel the world. And so you're like, we're like, oh, okay. That's kind of cool. I mean, yeah, but I feel even then, like the, say for example, like a lot of like the biggest rappers in the world right now, right. Are pretty active on like their Instagram stories and stuff like that. I see some still different. Like, I feel like the reason why,

like X factor or like American Idol stars. Cause they always give them a very relatable story and then they win it. And then no one gives a fuck because they're not, they're not pop stars. So they're not like, they're not rock stars. Right. The mystique's not there. Yeah. And I think that level of mystique is almost like, especially in music, I feel like it's important. And I think social media, even though it's humanized them a bit, because the shit they're still doing is so weird and like unrelatable. Yeah.

- Yeah, I mean, I don't know. Like sometimes it's, sometimes like you said, you see, especially like a lot more rappers on like social media now. And when you see like rappers beefing with each other, I'm like, this actually ain't too much different to like YouTuber beef. - Did you see that? - The Kanye tweet?

- Did you see this? - No, what was it? - Okay, so backstory right now, Kendrick Lamar. - Oh, I don't follow. - Okay, so right now Kendrick Lamar, J Cole and Drake, three of the biggest rappers in the world right now, they're beefing, right? So Kendrick hates J Cole, hates Drake. - Aren't they always doing this or some shit? - Yeah, but like this time they went like fully in. J Cole took an L.

unfortunately. And then Kanye was like, I'm going to get involved in this. And he literally on his Instagram, he posted like a meme picture of like a guy and a girl. And the girl's just like, do you listen to J Cole? And the guy's like, no. And then the next panel is the girl sucking him off.

And it's just like, it was so out of nowhere. 'Cause it's like, Kanye, you have nothing to do with this. - He's so fucking unhinged. - He's so unhinged. But like just shit like that, you would have not seen 10 years ago. - I think like there's almost like when you're watching like these crazy musical stars, there's almost something comforting about the fact that like you feel that like,

Like when you're sitting there in your TV, like sitting in your living room watching this, you're like, yeah, that's just like not the, we're just not in the same human like level of existence. Whereas like watching someone in American Idol or like that, I'm like, I don't like this. I don't want to feel like that could be me. Like I should be doing, you know what I mean? Make me feel bad. Like I should be out there making something of myself. Whereas like when you see someone who's like a naturally born gifted star and they've made these amazing music and these crazy music videos, you're like, yeah, but we're just like, we're there.

They were meant to do this. He's on another planet. I think there's that kind of aspect too in a weird way. I don't know how to explain it. Does that make sense? I don't know. I get what you mean. We like this mystique of people who are like, they were, this is them. But like, I feel like that barrier is like breaking down. It is.

- It is, it is. - Because I remember the exact moment, the first time I felt this way was, you know, with like big like sports stars. And I remember like the first time feeling this way was just like, it was actually, do you remember like the ALS ice bucket challenge? - Yeah. - Where it was like seeing all these celebrities

like just filming on like shitty phone cameras about like, like doing this thing. I was like, I have never seen this face, not in like HD, 4k, whatever, like whatever environment they've been in. And just like seeing them on like the shitty, like 10, like not even 10 80, like four 80 pixelated camera doing like ice bucket. I'm like, Oh, okay. They're actually like a human being, which like my mind's,

of which my mind knew, but it didn't feel that way because of like the way I'd seen them portrayed in media. And now we're getting to like, directly in like 10 years, we're gonna see like presidential candidates, like slagging each other off through memes on Twitter or some shit like that. - Isn't that already kind of happening? - Yeah, that's what I'm saying. - Isn't that happening? I'm pretty sure that's happening. - I don't know, it probably is already happening somewhere down the line. - We're gonna see presidential candidates like making like diss tracks on one another.

- Did Biden or something post the meme or something recently? - Yeah, he posted the laser eyes meme. - Oh, he did. - Oh my God. - He like sold a cup with it. - Yeah. - It's really weird.

It's very, very weird. Oh my God. Oh my God. Yeah. This is, this is, this is like the odd future we're in now where memes have just become an important part. Well, memes are going to become an important part of history. And yet, you know, no matter what, the one thing that will always prevail through is just cat videos. There's cat, cat videos. I feel like has,

transcended time and space. Yeah. Cat videos are in now again. Yeah, they're in, they're in now again. Were they ever out? I feel like they're more in right now. Like more than ever? Yeah. I don't know. More in than they have been for a while. Have you seen, have you seen the, have you seen the,

recent meme trend of like using cat like reaction images to break down history and it's pretty good it's the one where it's the one where like whenever it's whenever there's like something traumatic that's happening there's a cat that's just going like oh yes I have seen and then there's like the two cats that are talking there's like meh meh meh meh and the side cat going

- Thank you. Thank you for telling me what a sad cat sounds like. I would not have known otherwise. - It's so dumb. - And it's just like, Sydney fell into a rabbit hole of like, she fucking hates history, but now she was like learning about World War II through like these cat memes.

And she's like, wait, didn't they all like, you know, just like- - She's telling you about the blitzkrieg while she's like talking about cats or something. - Yeah, yeah, she was like learning a lot about European history. She was like, did Napoleon actually do that? And I'm like, yeah, yeah. This is like- - What did Napoleon do? Was it shoot the pyramids? 'Cause he didn't do that in that fucking movie. I hate that damn scene in the movie. Why did they put that in? - But have you guys been watching "Shogun"?

- I really, I mean, there's a number of Shogun I wanted to watch. - You're fucking tagged a million times on Twitter. - Yeah, yeah, yeah. - Everyone called me Joe Langthorne. - I can't watch Shogun now without seeing your face everywhere. - I was a little like, "Whoa, he does kind of look like me." A little bit.

his fucking voice is so fucking stupid in the show. Yeah. He's putting on a voice a little bit in the show. It's kind of obnoxious in the first episode. I'll be get used to it. Yeah. But, uh, it's actually really fun. It's really good. And he goes, my name is John Blackthorn and I want, I want my men and my ship returned to me. And they just, every, every, the first episode is just them calling each other savages. Yeah. You savages, savages. And then the,

The Japanese would keep calling him a barbarian. - Why does it sound like Chris? - That was actually a really good impression. - He's like, "I'm trying to find the Japans and this is you in Portugal." That's really good. It's actually so good. - I've heard very good things about it. - 'Cause I feel like the one thing that they've done so well is that they've turned translation into such a really,

like cool way of doing storytelling. Like the way when being trans, like words being translated in between characters, it tells so much that's left out. It's so cool. - I think, I'm sure there's been, I'm sure there's been shows like this before, but I can't remember the last show that, you know, is a Western production, but is so heavily based on a completely different language. Because there are,

English speaking people in it. Like, you know, the John Blackthorne. The one weird thing is I found is that like, they all speak Japanese, but then when they're speaking English in the show, they're speaking Portuguese. Yeah. Which is weird. Yeah. Which took me a little bit to get used to. Cause he'd be like, oh, he speaks fluent Portuguese. And then he's going, all right, hello, my name is Connor. And then you'd be like, yeah. Yeah.

But yeah, that's the only thing that was bothering me for a little bit. - That's the only thing, but yeah, because like, I would say most of the dialogue is actually in Japanese. - Like 80%. - 80% Japanese dialogue. - Right, right, right. - And obviously the main character can't speak Japanese, at least he can't at the beginning. I don't know how proficient he gets later on in the series. I've only watched like four episodes. So, but you know, there's a lot of scenes that hinge on, you know,

whether his words are being correctly translated to whoever he's trying to speak to. And it was like, it's such an interesting dynamic that normally a lot of shows or movies just go past, which is just like the translation between two people that don't speak the same languages. There's this extra barrier of like trust with the translator themselves to really translate. And sometimes,

Sometimes the person translating what the main guy is saying is like, okay, so the main guy is British, right? But a lot of people in Japan are Portuguese. And obviously the British and the Portuguese are at war with each other. So there's this extra layer of obviously the Portuguese doesn't exactly want to translate what the...

what the English guy saying because he's just fucking slacking them off and kind of- - 'Cause at this time they didn't know about like everything else. - Yeah, yeah, yeah. - So there's like- - It's like set in 1600s. - Yeah, so there's so many different layers

going on between all the different factions. And it's such a well-written show about how it brings it all together. Like the politics of like the Japanese side and bringing this external factor of the English person. You know, I hate to use...

the term Game of Thrones, but- - That's what everyone's saying. - It's like your next Game of Thrones. - It's like your next Game of Thrones. - It's like Game of Thrones in Japan. - No, it's interesting 'cause like I haven't watched Shogun yet, although, you know, I've heard so many good things about it from like Chris and like obviously just you guys just now, but like I recently watched

It was actually a Martin Scorsese movie. - Okay. I wish you watched a movie. - I watched a movie. - Which one? - Called Silence. - Oh, okay. I thought you were gonna say Killers of the Flaming. It's gonna be like fucking snooze in the flam. - No, no, I haven't watched that one yet. But yeah, I can randomly found this movie by Martin Scorsese. Never heard of it up until this point called Silence. It's got like Andrew Garfield, Adam Driver, Liam Neeson. And it's about-

kind of a similar plot point, you know, similar timeline where like the Portuguese first come to Japan to like introduce Christianity. - Oh, I remember this movie. I've been meaning to watch this one. - Yeah, it's fucking brilliant. And it's kind of the same thing where it's like, they have a bunch of like actual proper Japanese actors who, you know, most of the time only speak Japanese and like, you know, because the whole thing set in Nagasaki, they're all speaking in a Nagasaki dialect.

And it's kind of the same thing where it's like, you know, when the Portuguese main character, Andrew Garfield's character is like trying to talk to the Japanese like warlords. There's like, they, instead of just like speaking it and just like doing the whole movie magic where it's like, oh, somehow it's been like translated over. They like have like a proper translator character to like sit there in between to like talk and all that to make sure that all the dialogue goes through properly to each other. And like just that little detail is,

Kind of like, you know, what you just said, like it was Shogun where it's like that subtle detail, the fact that like he kind of left that in just goes to show like, oh, there's actual attention to detail here. And it's not just like some movie magic bullshit. But yeah, yeah.

If you, from the sounds of it, Shogun kind of gives me similar vibe to that. So, which is why I'm looking forward to it because Silas is a fucking amazing movie, which I never heard of up until this point. It's like, honestly, how far we've come to one of like the biggest TV productions this year being a, uh,

being a mostly subtitled piece of media. Because I remember what was the final push to get me to watch Shogun was it was Sydney's mom and dad messaging me. - Really? - It wasn't that I was in it. - That actually made me, actively made me no one to watch it. 'Cause I was just like, this is just a meme.

- I had found out about Shogun through trash taste memes. Not through any critical person talking about it. It was basically through like shots of John Blackthorn on the Trash Taste Reddit. - Right. - "Is this Connor?" "I didn't know Connor was in Shogun." And I'm like, "The fuck is this?" "The like, uh..."

- 2024 Last Samurai, like what's going on? And then like, you know, like knowing Sydney's parents, they are, you know, very, very old school. It was very, very hard to get them to watch anything subtitled. Not just because, you know, not because they have an aversion to it, just because a lot of times it was just like, eh, I don't really feel like it. - Just can't be fucked. - A lot of times it's not that deep. People were just like, it's subtitles, eh, I can't be fucked. That's what it used to be like.

until I guess Parasite won best movie at the Oscars. And Squid Game was all over the world. Oh, yeah. I think at the end of the day, you know, it kind of helps that it's kind of

I guess looks kind of English from the get go. And then when you get into it, you're like, hold on now, this is actually really compelling. So I think there are probably some people who probably didn't want to watch a subtitled show, but the show starts off in like English for like two minutes. And so I'm sure probably like some people, they were probably like, okay, hold on, this is pretty cool. - They tricked them into eating the food. - Yeah, I think honestly sometimes there needs to be a dangling carrot, right?

like because i remember the first time i got into anime i really didn't want to watch it uh subbed because i just never had done that before so yeah i was kind of uh you know not used to the idea but

Attack on Titan kind of made me be like, all right, hold on. - Was it Attack on Titan? - Yeah, Attack on Titan was the first one that made me watch Subbed. - Not Death Note? I thought it was Death Note. - Death Note, I watched that. The Death Note dub's amazing. If I ever watch Death Note, I still watch the dub. 'Cause I think the dub is so good. They really knocked it out of the park. Even though I know that the Light Yagami is very famous, the Death Note voice actor. - Oh yeah, Miyano Mamoru. - Yeah, yeah.

But yeah, no, it's such a good show. I haven't finished it yet. I really want to though. - Yeah, I mean, it's like, it's also insane to think, like I saw like statistics recently about, you know, you see some of like the top trending shows in the world right now, which obviously are like shows like Shogun, but you know, the talk on social media now, a lot of the times when you see the breakdowns about what shows are being talked about on social media,

Anime is like constantly up there now with like, it's cool to like anime now, man. I think it's great as well that subtitles, you know, at least for the younger generation, people growing up now, doesn't seem to be an issue at all. No.

- I mean, the Jujutsu Kaisen fan base is just fucking solo, solo carrying so much. It's Jujutsu Kaisen and One Piece are just like up there right now. - I mean, big shows like that is what cracks the door open for a lot of people to get into anime. So, you know, I'm more than happy when a bunch of normies come in

What do you what do you think is a normie what defines what defines a normie? I've someone who watches just Jujutsu Kaisen. Do you remember? I don't care like I know people are like oh it's so annoying. No it's like you know I said this when I was live streaming the other day like anime is more anime fandoms are more split than ever. Yeah. Like someone who watches like

domestic girlfriend why did you say that because because you are just you are frankly just not watching the same kinds of like you don't even remotely we are not the same yeah you're literally you're literally experiencing such a different like it but even then like i you know when you talk to japanese people like i'll go when i go to bars and stuff unless i go to like a manga or an otaku themed bar or something yeah i'm just talking to japanese people i'll be like

Oh, yeah, I like Zanku no Terra. They'll be like, what the fuck is that? They'll be like, what the hell is that?

I'll be like, oh, I meant Shigeki no Kyo. You know what I mean? Even in Japan where a lot of people think that everyone just watches every anime, which is not true. They really don't. There's almost like, if it doesn't get to Jujutsu Kaisen level, I feel like a lot of people in Japan just don't know about it unless they're really into anime. Yeah, definitely. And I feel like that's, you know, you are just having a completely different experience. Yeah. Yeah.

Oh, it's fine. It's whatever. It's cool. It's cool. It's gotten big enough now where it's kind of like gaming where like someone who mobile games is not the same as somebody who builds their PCs and plays like, you know, steam games all day. Yeah. You are having a different, wildly different experience, different levels, but it's, I think you can be called a gamer. I, yeah, I'm not, I don't care. I, you know, I don't, I'm not like mobile games are not real gamers. I don't give a fuck. Um,

- I also watched Oppenheimer again. - Again? - Again? - Again in cinemas, in IMAX this time. - Oh, in the Japanese cinemas? - In Japan. - Oh yeah. - I also just wanted to see what the vibe was like. - What was the vibe like? - People were really fucking into it. It was full. - I mean, yeah, it's a great fucking movie. - It was full. I also really liked it in IMAX 'cause last time I watched it in 35 millimeter, which is great, but the screen was definitely a lot smaller. So IMAX, I was definitely like the, ah!

- But it was pretty good. - Well, because unlike what a lot of like publications were saying, a lot of Japanese people really wanted to see this movie. - Yeah, there was no, I'd seen as well, people posting this thing around, at least in Tokyo, there was no like warning. I know that on social media, like a warning was going around being like warning, this contains scenes of nuclear explosions.

Yeah, but there isn't a single scene that's set in Japan in that movie. No, there isn't. But that was one of the main criticisms, actually, is that some... To be fair, they are... These are people who like...

I think they'd shown it early, which I don't know why they'd shown it early to people who were like working with the like heritage centers in Hiroshima and the museum and stuff. And their main complaint was that it didn't show the destruction. Right.

because in that sense, that almost like absolved the viewers of having to like come to terms with what the bomb did. - Right. - Right. But I think then people argued as well that it was like, well, it's meant to be from only Oppenheimer's perspective. And that's,

you know, also there's literally hundreds of films that cover that story anyway. Right. And I think, yeah, I think if you go into it, the film thinking that it's just about this thing, which I guess it is in some senses, but it's mainly about how this man is a, is a very delusional, but very smart man following his journey. And it's really, it's really, it was really compelling. Even watching the second time around, I was really,

I thought I was going to be a lot more bored, but I still really enjoyed it. - It's just a great film. - Such a good film. - Oh, finally watched "Dune II" as well. - Nice. - Hell yeah. - Did you watch it in theaters? - Yes. - Okay, good. - You had to. - This time I was like, I gotta watch this in theaters. - It was good, right? - This was like after I had like the bike fucking. - The bike nightmare. - But it was so good, right? - Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. - It was fucking so good. - Who said I got you?

I, after watching it, I got curious because I was like, I saw how many books there were available. And I'd heard like the director, he was like, no, no, I'm only doing three films. I'm only doing three films. It's fucking weird. Yeah. I didn't realize how weird it got. Yeah. Like,

- Were you aware of this going into the films? - I've read all the books. - Oh shit, okay. - Yeah, so I know. - How old were you? - Like the fifth one? - Yeah, I've read all the Frank Herbert books. So I've read the first- - 'Cause his son took over, right? - Yeah, I haven't read any of his son's books, but all the original Frank Herbert books I read when I was like in high school, I think. Yeah, they get weird. After around "Children of Dune," it gets like,

- Okay. Frank was on something bro. - He was on that spice man. - He was on that spice bro. - He was on his own supply at that point. - He was the 50s. - Doesn't surprise me. - But they're amazing books, yeah. So I'm looking forward to if they're gonna do the second book. Second book is also fantastic. - Yeah, I mean, it's been a while since I was like, okay, this is like, I watched it in cinemas and I'm like, yes,

I can't imagine experiencing this not in cinemas. Especially like the biggest thing that's caught me off guard was actually not only like the visuals, but like just the sound quality. - Oh, the sound design is incredible. - Especially when they use like the voice. - Yeah.

So good. Yeah. And like whenever they, whenever they're like, whenever there's someone who uses the voice, you just hear like so many different fucking layers that you don't. Oh, sorry. Yeah.

Like my chair just starts shaking. Yeah, it's so cool. I think it just as well, like the story is so compelling and he just understands religion so well. And the way it's used in the movie is so cool. It's like, it's not to like demean it in any way, but like to show how it can be used as a tool. Do you think it felt like an old story? No, not at all. But I think that's what makes it,

like that's what makes certain works just so timeless and like stuff like shakespeare so timeless in a sense because like i mean shakespeare feels old not because it's old but because of like the setting it is in no it's because of the language the language the way it's written yeah but like the themes and like when you're when you watch like uh when you read of shakespeare or if you've ever watched any media based on it you're like damn this story is pretty fucking good and

- No, no, yeah. - That's the reason why it holds up so goddamn well. - I think at the core of it all, like once you get past the language and like the old setting, like, yeah, I agree. Like the core themes of the stories are very timeless. Like people today can still very much relate to like, you know, a Romeo and Juliet, for example. And I think that's why Dune just feels like such a classic story. And, you know,

like back when it was written, like, you know, my dad grew up reading those stories and he was like, yeah, this, it was so incredibly ahead of its time just with like- - It is way ahead of its time. - So ahead of its time. And like, you know, it shows that it's like, it's one of the most like,

you know, ripped off of sci-fi stories, you know, that's ever been written. Right. And the fact that you can make a movie about it 60 years after it was made and people still being like, this is fucking insane. Just goes to show like, yeah, that's why it was story. That's why it was goaded when it came out. It's a goaded series. Yeah. I know there's always like comparisons. People always like, yeah, he, he like that Frank Herbert is like,

to sci-fi what Tolkien is to like fantasy. - Fantasy, yeah. - But yeah, it did make me hype for Lord of the Rings again. Me and Chris were quoting Lord of the Rings the entire cycle. I think watching that you're like, you just get hungry for more worlds that are like of that level. - Like expansive like that, yeah. - And then you just think like, goddamn, every time you just sit, well you haven't watched Lord of the Rings, right?

- You're a fraud. - No, I have, excuse me. - No, he watched a little bit of it in wine. - Excuse me, I watched the third film. - That's crazy that you would like. - With you guys. - That's crazy. - With you guys, excuse me. - I just can't believe that like you haven't watched it. - Yeah, that's wild to me. - It's like in terms of, it's like "Dune".

It's like in terms of like the expansiveness of the world and how fucking good it was. Yeah. Yeah. I can imagine that. It's so good. Watching Dune didn't make me think it was just like, cause it didn't make me think when, when do you think the last time we had like a truly original story?

Like, how can I say this? - In what genre? Like in sci-fi? - I guess like, okay. So "Lord of the Rings" was obviously insanely influential, right? - Sure. - To the point where you look at a fantasy and you're like, so there's so many fantasy elements that have taken inspiration from, you know, the Tolkien-esque fantasy vibe and the races and everything like that. And you think to yourself, you know,

You think the same with Dune, how much it inspired sci-fi and you think how many different sci-fi stories got inspired by some of the different ideas that were presented in Dune. I mean, even like, you know, something like, you know, Star Wars with like Jedis and like, you know, Jedi mind tricks, for example, being influenced by, you know, you know, originally like the voice and stuff like that. And you're like, well, you look at Dune and you're like, this-

When this first came out, these ideas were like totally original and mind-blowing to the point where you think, has anyone even thought of the ideas that were presented in this book before? It's like Flamin' Hot Cheetos after Cheetos. It's like mind-blowing, game-changing. Who thought of this?

And didn't quite get that. You're like, how can we ever go back to Cheetos? That is true. How can we ever degrade from this? Yeah, yeah. Shit, he's right. I am right!

we didn't know chips could taste that good I can never eat Cheetos again and it just made me think man this has been this influential and it's still relevant this many decades later when was the last time I saw something that I guess has there been a piece of media that's come out in my lifetime that is going to be

as influential as original as something like a Dune, a Lord of the Rings. Is it even possible? - I'm sure there will be. - The Avengers. I'm just kidding. - I mean, arguably more influential right now. - Right now, but will it last another 10, 20 years? Who knows? - Yeah.

And even then it's not like a period of its peace or anything. - Okay, I think there's a difference between like a trend and like a piece of media that's like truly like timelessly influential. 'Cause like trends follow money for one, they follow like whatever. - Would you consider then like a cult classic to be

kind of in the same caliber. - What do you mean? - Like in the sense that, you know, a cult classic was, you know, could be made like, you know, 30, 40 years ago, but people still openly talk about it. And even the younger generation find out about it because of its cult classic status. And then the talk of that cult classic just keeps going on forever and ever and ever, right?

- What are you talking about? - Like, - I know you have a movie in mind. - Pulp Fiction for example. - Okay, okay. - Right? Or like any of like the early Tarantino films, right? Like people's today's- - Is Pulp Fiction influential? - Yeah. - Yeah, I'd say so. - I don't know, 'cause I see Tarantino films and Tarantino films are so Tarantino. You know what I mean? - He is influential, are you kidding me? - Okay, I guess to me like, I don't really see anyone really

or like doing a Tarantino film as well as like Tarantino does. - Well, I think that's what makes Tarantino so good is that no one can really replicate it for instance. - Yeah, it's just such a unique style. Obviously he's an influential filmmaker in the sense of like, you know, he's very, very good with

some of the dialogue scenes and just, you know, natural dialogue and especially in Pulp Fiction, the way like a story is presented. But I can't really think of any other films that I've, that I've, that I watched, I can think of off the top of my head that I'm just like, oh yeah, this is, this feels like a Tarantino film.

I can't really think of anything. I don't know. 'Cause everything I think of is like, oh, this is so, every Tarantino film is so uniquely Tarantino. You know what I mean? - No, I get that. - This is such a guy conversation. Just sitting here, this is what dudes do at three. - Yeah. - The girls are like, I bet she's cheating on me. It's like, what makes a Tarantino film a Tarantino film? - Why do guys just love Tarantino films? - Let's discuss.

- We just love feet, man. We just fucking love feet. Okay, like I remember I kind of had this feeling, right? Because like as a Tarantino fan, I totally agree. It is very difficult to find that Tarantino vibe

from a non Tarantino work. Right. But sometimes you can catch like whiffs of it where it's like, it might just be pure coincidence or maybe the Tarantino vibe is like some kind of like formula to it that like just someone just happened to figure out. Right. Like I know this is going to be weirdest like comparison right now, but like I felt the Tarantino vibe when I watched it.

- Or 'cause they split it the way- - Not only because of like the same story from the multiple like, you know, things, perspectives rather that all coincide with one another, but also just the fact that like simple dialogue exchanges

eventually keep building up and up and up into a batshit insane conclusion. - I can see that. - You know? - You know, I can see that, I guess, but I don't know. There's something about Tarantino dialogue that is just- - Oh, it's unmatched. - So insane. It's like- - Only Tarantino can do like a 15 minute segment of two dudes talking about foot massages. Like no one else can write that. - Yeah, I mean, that's just such a, he has such a deep understanding of like,

conversation. And like, what is it? What like a real conversation sounds like. But how to then also cut out the real, the aspects of real conversation that don't add to characterization of story. That's why it's so good.

But anyway, we've been recording for a little while now and we got more to record. So thank you so much for watching this episode of Trash Taste. Jerry, tell them the thing. Hey, look at all these patrons. I'm sure many of these people supported us for the Hawaii special. I hope so. Because we got age restricted. We got age restricted, but check it out if it's still up. I don't know. If not, then make sure to follow us

and support us over on Patreon. By the way, every single week we have a Patreon exclusive video and we have one for you guys this week as well. But hey, if you'd like to support us and check out all of the Patreon exclusive content, then make sure to go to patreon.com/trashtaste. Also you can follow us on Twitter, send us some memes on the subreddit. And if you're ahead of us, list us on Spotify. And next week we will still be here sitting on these couches waiting for you. So we'll see you guys then. - Bye.