HOW TO GET BANNED FROM EVERY COUNTRY (ft. @Ididathing & @Boy_Boy ) | Trash Taste #165
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- Welcome back to another episode of Trash Taste. I'm Connor and I'm joined once again with the boys, Scott and Joey. And today we have two special guests once again. We have Alex from I Did A Thing and Boy Boy and Alexa from Boy Boy. How do you introduce each other normally? You have a separate thing and then you both have a joint thing together. - Yeah, we haven't decided. - We probably got to work it out for tax reasons as well. - Can you not state that publicly? - Oh yeah. - Definitely not a tax problem. - You could double claim everything.

right yeah yeah so you guys you guys you guys do um

- Interesting, I feel like every Aussie creator does something that is kind of a bit more unusual. I think Boi Boi focuses more on political stuff and I Did A Thing focuses more on destructive creative stuff, would you say? - How would you describe your own content to our audience for- - It goes hand in hand. I do the politics and he teaches kids how to make weapons to use in the eventual revolution.

- We're like, you don't have to state this publicly. - Yeah, yeah, yeah. Everything I've said has been incriminating. - My stuff is just kind of like, I usually describe it as like myth busters, but with a guy who doesn't actually know how to make anything. - It's like myth busters if they were deranged and focused on weapons. - Yeah, yeah. It's kind of trying to discover, I don't know what I'm doing, learning along the way, failing most of the time so much so that anytime I make something successful, my audience is like, whoa, like,

- He actually did. - Something happened to that. - Some of your highlights involve making a hermit shells weaponess. - Yeah. - Turned a hermit shell into a weapon. - The hermit crab one, right? - Yeah. - Yeah. - You've made your ceiling fan into a weapon. - Yep.

- I gotta ask, how close have you come to like injuring or like seriously harming yourself? - Yeah, because I like to describe, I did a thing as try not to die challenge level Australia. - It's just what it is. - It's like, it's easy enough to die in Australia as it is. You were just like, let's just up. - Not exciting enough. - I think I must just be delusional 'cause I wanna say like not very close at all, but everyone keeps telling me you're so close to dying. I'm like,

- Every video you are. - I don't know what it looks like to you, but I hate being next to that crowd. - I think the closest is probably anything to do with blank rounds. I did two videos.

using like blank rounds, which, and it's just like, there's such a crazy amount of power there that, you know, if something goes wrong or gets diverted towards you, it will just go through you. - Well, that's cause it's called a gun, right? - Yeah. - It's pretty easy to kill. - Oh, I can describe it on a bullet. - Yeah.

- Yeah, probably that. - Yeah, so what would you think is like the craziest, most dangerous contraption you've come up with in your opinion? - Oh, I think it would probably be one that I did and I was like, no, I won't muck around with that before and it's with electricity. And I did that halfway through doing it and I realized how dangerous it actually was that it's like, you know, if you-

- Well, 'cause I realized it's just- - How did it take you that long? - I didn't need to fuck around. - Yeah, so and that's, yeah, I realized I'm not smart enough to do that in a safe way. - Yeah, I mean, like Electro Boom, that dude. - Yeah, you shouldn't muck around with stuff that if you make one mistake, you die instantly. That's my rule. - Yeah, it seems like he knows what he's doing, but it's still dangerous. - You get a lot of views though for that one video. - If I die? - Yeah.

- Yeah. - That'd be great. That'd be the biggest video on YouTube. - It's gotta be in 4K at least as well. - 4K. - But you guys on your, so that you do the channel called Boy Boy and this kind of started after your channel, right? - Oh, it was actually the first one. - Oh shit. - It was just terribly unpopular for you. - Shows how much I did my research. But I think the first time I'd seen anything of your channel and I thought it was fake at first

'Cause I thought there's no way this could be real. You both went and I'm not mistaken, you both went to North Korea just to get a haircut. - Yeah. - And I'm sure this has been like the press thing you always have to talk about. Tell us about North Korea. But like, I mean, why the fuck did you do that? - That was our first ever video as well.

- Yeah, yeah. - It's like a debut on YouTube. I think we wanted to go to North Korea for tourism and just casually. - Just casually. - Just 'cause it's so weird. Like you just hear so many stories about it and how it's this kind of mystical place with these crazy rules. So like we wanted to know, is this true? - Right. - Yeah. - And then ended up just making a video out of it. Like that was our first ever thing on YouTube. - How were you able to film anything there? Were they not like super strict about- - To be fair, I think there's a lot of misconceptions about the place.

- The filming was really chill over there just because I mean, you're on a guided tour essentially. - So they show you around. - They want you filming. Like they want, everything they show you, they're like, show the world how this place is a paradise. - Yeah.

- So if one of our viewers wanted to go to North Korea for tourism, which I'm sure like a lot of you guys watching are, what's like the process of like getting the visa and like getting over to North Korea? - It's honestly easier. That would sound like we're on the North Korean tourism board. It's honestly easier than any other country we've gone to just because-

- No, man. - It's so easy to do because the tool companies are set up to do all of it. And I think we paid, it was kind of pricey for what we were poor students at the time, but we paid like a thousand bucks for five days. But you just send off your details to this Chinese company

And they arrange all of it for you. - Was there a point where you were like, this sounds like a bad idea, maybe we should do this. - There were bits, there were some dodgy bits like, oh, when you got that call in the morning. - Yeah, yeah, well, there was a couple of things. So the lead up to this scary call in the morning was they said, you can take photos of anything, but the one thing we don't want you to do is take photos of the military.

So after a day being there, I was like, well, I'm going to take photos of the military. So I just started taking photos of the military. And then one time they saw me doing that. So they started, they asked if they could go through my camera and then they were going through my camera looking for the photos of the military to delete that. But it was really funny because you know how if you record a video, it has a thumbnail. Yeah. Which,

the thumbnail was there and they thought that was the photo. So they were just like, why is this guy taking photos of the ground? Like I didn't look through any of my videos but they deleted some photos of the military. And then, so that kind of put me on their radar. So then I was a bit stressed, like, oh, I've pissed them off. - You did the best emotional manipulation on them. That was insane. They stopped going through your camera 'cause you started crying. - Yeah, I started crying. - Why? - They just were like, can you have the camera?

- 'Cause they started deleting photos of the travel and I took this photo of this like, really like this boy was sitting down at the river and he was like fishing and I took a photo and I thought it was like- - They just deleted it? - And they deleted it and then I started getting tears in my eyes that they like, they stopped. They stopped deleting the photos. - So you thought it might be so brutal but like they just see a grown man crying like this has gone too far. - That's where the compassion kicks in. - Yeah, yeah. - Like what are monsters and all that? - I think they're worried about the press though. - Yeah, yeah, yeah.

- It's weird that we worry about the press when they're just arresting other people. - Yeah, yeah. - It's weird that they'd care about that. - It's weird, like all the tourists kind of stay in the one like specific tourist hotel. - Yeah, right. - And like, you never really know what's going on. Everyone's kind of assuming that it's all bugged and they're listening to you and stuff.

And then one time we were out, we're like privately talking. We're like, okay, if it is bugged, let's just tonight when we go back, we'll just talk to each other in gibberish all night, just in our room. And hopefully there's a North Korean person behind the scenes, like flicking through the translator books. Like what the fuck's going on? - Yeah, what language are we speaking? - We did not give up for like hours. Just saying nonsense. - Just for hours, it's like, it's great. - So how closely were you guys monitored? Were you guys allowed to leave the hotel room at all? - No. - Was it like, kind of like,

- We could just walk around the hotel. We paid a bit extra to do like a private tour for the last days. And then that's like more or less free. - They said it was a walking tour of the city and we imagined, oh, you just get to walk. But it was like, they took us to a street and then the two guides walked down the street to the end and then back up to our starting point. And it was like, yeah, it's a very restricted. - You don't get to see very much. - No, they're showing you what they want you to see.

- Right. - The good parts, but was it good, the good parts or was it just kind of like- - It was actually fine. I mean like, yeah, a lot of the good parts seem fairly nice. - And that's the best it gets, I guess. - Yeah. - Yeah. - But the one weird thing was, I think they've got this vision that they're actually like this better

best in the world kind of utopia. And so some of the photos that they had issues with, like Alex taking a photo of that kid, they were just like, "Oh, he's barefoot. You can't have that. He looks poor." And it's just like, dude, people don't wear shoes. - Alex never wears shoes. - Yeah. - Come to Australia one time. - And also the kid was like swimming in the river with no rubbish and we just came from China where everything's like covered in rubbish. And we're like, "No, this actually looks pretty chill." You're like, "Calm down." - You have to go through China to get into North Korea. - Yeah, yeah, through Dandong.

- Yeah, how was the food there? I'm curious. - I mean, I don't think it's a fair judgment 'cause we obviously paid money and then I think they would obviously, it was delicious. It was just like- - Did you get to go to like a local restaurant or something or whatever they took you to? - No, not really. - I got arranged. - Right, right, right. - 'Cause I don't think there are local restaurants in Australia.

- I don't think they have any. - I actually, I don't think I've ever told this story on the podcast before, but so it's, this is like one of the weirdest experience I've ever had, right? So I was, this was when I was living in Thailand.

And I was out with Sydney at the time. And we were walking around and we were just like trying to find a restaurant. We were just in like the middle of Bangkok. And we see this one massive restaurant and we recognize that it's a Korean restaurant. So we're like, great, I'm craving Korean. Let's try going in. And then we head in and then something's like off because we go in and it's a Saturday night. It's a massive fucking restaurant.

and it's completely empty, right? - Right. - And then the servers come up and we soon realized that we're in Thailand. So we expect them to at least speak Thai or their second language. A lot of people speak English. They did not speak any Thai or any English at all. And for some reason, all of the girls, they were all girls there, all of the girls who were serving us had like this look like

Like they had a gun pointed at them or something like that. And it was super, super weird. So we go into this restaurant and they serve us and there's like two items on the menu or something. And I was like, what the fuck is going on here? Right? So the only person who spoke Thai there was the manager.

who kind of didn't really know what was going on. She was like, I asked her, "What do you recommend on the menu?" And she was like, "I don't fucking know, ask the girls." And so I try like communicating with these girls, "What do you want on the menu?" And I was like,

Is it okay if I leave to like the manager and she translates that to the girls and the girls are like, no, please, please, please don't leave. I'll get you this, this, I recommend this. It's okay. I'll get you this right now. And so we get this like, I think it's like a chicken soup or something.

And the entire time, the girls are like, I don't know, the girls just look scared. Something was off with this restaurant. And in the end, they ended up double charging my card.

And I try explaining, hey, I think you've double charged my cards. And they're like, no, we haven't. And I explained to the manager, you've double charged my card. And she's like, I can't do anything about this. What the fuck? It's already fueling rockets. I recommend you just leave right now. And so we leave. And I'm like, that's a weird fucking experience. And so we Google it.

And we find out that it is a state funded North Korean restaurant. And we had just like walked into a North Korean state funded restaurant. And I was like, I didn't know this existed. - Yeah, that's crazy. - Yeah, yeah. - They're like basically like they're kind of held hostage. But yeah, I heard about this. 'Cause I think there's a video probably like

or fucking half as interesting did it or something about how the North Korean government funds like restaurants of North Korean food to kind of get people to appreciate the culture more. - Yeah. - But I'm surprised it's bad service 'cause like we had the opposite in North Korea where it was like,

so like obsessed on making everything perfect that it was just like almost freaky in the other direction. - Right, right. - This is too much like chill out. - Well maybe it's because you guys were in the mainland, right? So like they had like a standard to fill up where it's like, you know, them in Thailand, they're just like, no one's gonna fucking

- I bet they spoke fluent Thai and English. They were just trying to scam you. - We're gonna fuck with this guy really hard. - Oh my God, that's terrifying. - Was there anything about North Korea that surprised you guys that you weren't expecting?

- I think, well, I mean, the relationship with the leader was pretty confronting. I don't know, I guess that's not what you expect. - Yeah, 'cause we went there to try and kind of like, you know, look at it from a pretty like neutral point of view and try to like maybe dispel some of the Western things, stories about North Korea. But yeah, the stuff with the leader where like every single person has the leader's face and they're viewed as a God. - Yeah. - And there was some hilarious moments where we went to the Museum of Friendship.

- I just wanna cry. - It was the place where there was all the gifts that Kim Jong-un had received from leaders around the world. - 'Cause everyone loves him. - 'Cause everyone loves him. - Yeah. - They're best mates. And one of them was like a gift from

the CEO of Samsung from Korea. And she shows us this cabinet and she was like, this is all the gifts from the CEO of Samsung. And inside the cabinet was just Apple computers. From like the 90s. It was like the latest Samsung technology. And we were just like trying not to laugh. You're like, they just...

They don't know. They had another one there. It's just so hard because you see how earnest these people are who are telling you this stuff. I'm like, I cannot lie to you. Because they genuinely believe it. Yeah. They had this portrait there that he was gifted. I forgot from who. And it's like, this is our dear leader riding a tiger in a suit of armor, smoking a cigarette. And I was just like,

- And he's on top of a mountain smoking cigarette. And she's just showing us this thing and we're just like trying not to laugh so hard. Like, oh my God. These are just, so they're just like proudly showing everything off and a lot of them are just fucking weird. - Oh, it's so strange. - They don't know any better, right? - You said something about a mausoleum or something?

- Oh, that was insane. - Because like the dad and the granddad, so Kim Jong Il and Kim Il Sung are like, they're embalmed over there. - Madam Two Swords. - Madam Two Swords North Korea version. - It was so bizarre 'cause we go there to like, you didn't even pay your respects to these guys. And we get out like,

I don't know how far away it was like a kilometer away from the actual mausoleum. You don't actually go in, you go into this like underground bit and you're on travelators like the, and you stand on there and they're going slower than walking pace. And it's just a North Korean national anthem blaring. And you're literally standing on that travelator for like an hour.

- It was like, it was probably like half an hour and they made us stand in a block of 16. So four by four people. And we had to just stand still as we like floated down this elevator with like pictures of just North Korean landscape. And then we got to the end and there was this- - You get to these different rooms where like one of them had like brushes on the floor that like clean your feet. And then you go into another room that blows all like the dust off you to be nice and clean before you see the guys.

It's so dystopian. But when you finally get there, it's like, it's so sad. You've got, you're there with a bunch of other North Koreans and like everyone's crying. It's like, oh no, these guys are dead.

You've got guards, like armed guards around them. And like the guards are crying. Like the guy's like wiping away his tears. And I'm like, you're there every day. Like how? - How are you crying every day? - Yeah, that's a lot of tears. - This job never gets easier. - The turnover rate for the guards must be so high.

- Just emotional depression. - I was really lucky 'cause I had a bit of a cold. So I was like sneezing and teary the whole time. So I'm like, this is great, I'm fitting in perfectly. - I'm legitimately crying at the two of them. - It's like, we got 'em. - To North Korea. - Yeah, yeah, yeah. - You know, 'cause obviously I imagine there's something in your passport that's like, I went to North Korea, right? - Yeah. - Have you ever had any questions when you're traveling? - In America, yeah. - They're like, why do you go? - We had to get interviewed 'cause normally Australians can go like on an ESTA visa to America, but we can't, we have to go and get-

interviewed by the American...

guards who asked the weirdest fucking questions and like- - So you had to get the B one? Is that the one? - No, the business one. - The business one. - Which is just so weird. And they're just so strangely- - So intimidating. - So just because you went to North Korea- - Yeah, and it's like, what do you think I'm a spy? The worst spy in the world. - What kind of questions are they asking? - Oh, just why did you go there? Did you enjoy it? Did you enjoy it? I was like, what if I say yes, am I a spy? So I was like, it was weird. - Yeah, you're trying to like, do you want me to say it was bad?

- They were just the most pointless questions. You're not getting anything out of this. - It's pointless, but they're also just like angry at you. Like, am I wasting your time? - I just loved it that we're getting interviewed by Americans about North Korea. I looked behind the guy interviewing me and there was a massive portrait of Donald Trump looking like Kim Jong-un. And I was like, it's exactly the same. It's the same place. - And in the embassy they made us like, they took all our stuff and like, they took our shoes and we're just walking through the embassy barefoot

And we're like, wow. - What? - Yeah. - It was a pretty hectic security. - North Korea would not be allowed. - As we've learned, no shoes. - Jesus. - So do you get questioned every time you go to America?

- No, it's just a once when we got, but once the visa expires, we'll have to do that again. - So that just set the precedent for your channel then. It's like, okay, we went to North Korea, that kind of like, what's next? - It's all been downhill from there. - Did you make the channel in Miami like, I wanna get political and talk about opinions and things? - Yeah, I think that was the goal of it.

- Try to make politics funny. Try to brainwash people who don't wanna hear anything about politics. - Yeah, 'cause I saw the video where it was like, how much money can you launder in the Australian casino? - Wait, what? - Yeah, George, you wanna explain it to Joe? - Yeah, yeah. - That was a really fun one. There's this guy, Troy Stolz, he's like a whistleblower. He's a dude who used to work for the gambling, I guess gambling industry to like check if they're,

what is it? If they're complying with money laundering regulations. - In Australia. - Yeah. - It turns out all these casinos aren't, they're like actively letting money laundering happen because they make money from it and all this stuff. And he reveals this and then they like sue the shit out of him. And like this guy's like getting fucked up. Sorry, are we allowed to swear on this? - Yeah, yeah, yeah. - We've done it a lot. - Of course, yeah. - I just wanna talk about Chad showed his ass on the last one.

And like, this guy's getting screwed. I don't know. It was a very, very sad situation. So we like kind of came in and got him to show us how you launder money in a casino. Yeah. And just how easy it is. It's incredibly easy. It's so easy that you just, you go to a poker machine, you put in as much money as you want. Take notes. Cause it's-

- Then you hit a button and it will just give you a receipt, which you can take up to the counter and they will give you clean bills, not only clean bills, but a receipt that says you won this from gambling. And then it's tax free money. - What? - And you can do it on a thing up to $7,000 and you can do that onto multiple machines. So we easily did like $25,000 in like,

two three hours but the thing is we weren't even just we at first we were just seeing if we could do it and it was fine then after that we're like oh if it's this easy like maybe we'll up the stakes and we're just wearing different costumes like you had the shirts or like i'm laundering money right now like i'll just like a robber in there it was just like it doesn't matter like they don't care oh my god this episode is sponsored by expressvpn going online without expressvpn is like not having a case on your phones

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'Cause I guess during COVID, you were seeing if they were complying with COVID rules. And then you went in with a fever.

You heat up your arm. - We had our hats on and we put heat packs under the hats. And then we took off the hats just before so they didn't see the heat packs. And my head was something around 50 degrees. - If you're that hot, you're done. - And they kind of scanned our heads and then we're like, oh, just wait here for a minute. And then they did that and then just let us in with like 50 degree fevers. - And you were wearing like a hospital.

- Yeah, I was wearing a hospital. - I was like, oh, you look like you came for the hospital. I'm like, yeah, yeah, I did, but I'm feeling lucky, you know? Or just like, oh, just get changed first and then you can go in. And that was it. - So fucking insane. - And then recently I had the police come to my mom's house.

- Oh wait, after that we got banned from the casino. - Oh yeah, that was it. - Right, right, right. - Conclusion, so yeah, they did contact us. - Why did you get banned? Sorry, why did the police get caught to your mom's house? - It was because of a video I made five years ago. I made a gun. I don't like saying gun. - Don't say gun. - You could've just ended it there. I mean gun. - A device that should propel. - Yes, a propelling device that propelled tampons.

So it was like a Nerf propeller that shot tampons. And I made it five years ago and it was horrible. It didn't work well at all. - Wait, why did they give a fuck about that? - 'Cause they came and they were telling my mom, they were just like, "Oh, it's so dangerous what Alex has done. 'Cause what if like the bikies got a hold of it or someone else got a hold of it?" And it was just like, "The bikies have real guns." Like, what are they gonna do with this? - Also tampons cost like a million dollars. Surely boards are cheaper.

And it didn't work very well. I almost felt like telling him, like, no, I can make much better things now. But I was like, oh, good. I should see the hammer right now. Wait, so how did that go then? So they just come in and they're just explaining to your mom and then they just left? So I destroyed the device very quickly after making it.

So luckily I didn't have it. And then they just kind of, they were pretty chill about it. There were two female cops, which was very funny that they were looking for the tampon. But then they just said like, oh, if he has it, there's a thing in Australia called a gun amnesty. So if you make a device or you have a unregistered firearm, you can give it into the police without questions. I don't have,

I like I'm saying this a lot. - I have not broken any walls. - And then, so then I just told them that I didn't have the device anymore and they were happy with that. - Right, right. - You have my words. - I don't have it. - Yeah, so I'm sure you would know this best, but what like technically,

is like the definition of a gun in the eyes of the Australian law. - It's pretty vague in terms of it's like, 'cause my opinion of it, like I thought- - Your legal opinion as well. - My legal opinion as a lawyer. I thought it was something that needed a trigger than that uses any kind of anything to project something. - Like a car. - Yeah, but it turns out it's not.

but you don't need a trigger. It's just anything that projects anything out of a everything. - So a Nerf gun could be a gun. - A Nerf gun was a gun. So it's like an air rifle is a gun, a blow gun is a gun. - What? - Your lungs. - You're projecting something. - Can you get arrested? - It's insane rules. Yeah. So it's like...

- Yeah. - So where do they draw the line? How much- - Is it vague intentionally? - Yeah. - To just kind of crack down on whoever they want to crack down on? - Probably, probably. 'Cause if you look up what's illegal here, like nunchucks are illegal, throwing stars are illegal, throwing knives. - Nunchucks are illegal? - So a lot of the stuff isn't- - Ever since we had that big nunchuck massacre in Tasmania, we just like-

- Well, nut and shrugs are illegal in a lot of places actually. - Oh yeah? - They're illegal in Japan as well. - Why? - What? - They just hurt yourself. - I tried using it, whacked myself in the head. - I'm pretty sure they're illegal. I could be making this up. - That's great. - I swear I was gonna buy them on wish.com one time and I lied and people were like, "No, don't do that, they're illegal." I was like, "It's two planks of wood."

- Yeah. - How is this like, I can own a knife. - His politicians just watched one too many Bruce Lee movies. - Yeah, yeah, yeah. - If he can do that, anyone can do that. - That guy's good. - Yeah. - I think like brass knuckles also, obviously for obvious reasons are illegal in a lot of places. - Well, if brass knuckles are illegal, I would say,

- That makes more sense than the nunchucks. - I think nunchucks are like probably more dangerous, right? - If you know how to use it. - If you know how to use it. - Fresh knuckles are made for just beating people up like to the point of death. - Okay, if I'm in a street fight and someone brings out some fucking nunchucks, I'm getting the fuck out. - That means they're not dangerous 'cause if someone actually pulls them out and does a trick, you'll be like, this guy's serious, I'm leaving.

- Yeah. - Brass knuckles, they're hidden until someone hits you in the face with them. - Yeah, that's true. But that's, you know, it's cause nunchucks have a skill ceiling. So I'm like, if someone brings out, I'm like, I'm getting fucked. - But no one would bring out nunchucks in a fight if they weren't competent enough. - That's what I'm saying though. That's what I'm saying. That's my exact point. - All right, fuck. - You know, brass knuckles, you know, you know how brass knuckles works, you know, nunchucks, I have no idea how the fuck that works.

So speaking of fighting, you both also were going to fight and then both got fucked up. That was actually not knowing how to use brass knuckles. I tried to train boxing and fucked myself up. So you were in the first creator clash and you were going to do the second one.

Yeah. Unfortunately, he got a concussion and you were going to do chest boxing against Miff and then you got a concussion as well. But you gave him a concussion. He fucked me up. We just sound like the biggest idiots. No, yeah. You just spell it out like that. The worst part about when Alex knocked me out, it was because we were sparring all the time and-

at one point, like five weeks before the match. Cause he's just a big, big and strong guy, Alex. And he, he punched me like in the chest and he broke one of my ribs. And it was like, it was five weeks out from the thing. And I looked it up online. It's like, okay, it takes five weeks for a broken rib to heal. Like I'm in this, I'm still got it. It's like, we can keep training, but no more body shots, just headshots, just headshots. And then like pseudo lady just knocked me out. And it's just like, okay, so headshots aren't safe. It's just, it's such a dumb sport that like,

I mean, there's obviously ways to train relatively safe. But at the end of the day, it's like you're just getting hit in the head. Yeah. And then when it happened to me, I was like, this isn't worth it. Right. I scared the crap out of me. It's fucking scary. And he was bad. Like we had it where we were having a party at the house and he wasn't drinking at all because he was concussed. And I went to the bathroom, came back, and then Lex was talking to some people. But he was just kind of talking gibberish and he sounded really drunk. And I was like, oh, Lex is fucked.

He's so drunk. And I was like, wait, he's not drinking. I was like, he's just that concussed. - I was scared for a while. Those like first couple of weeks where I was like slurring my words, I thought like, is this the rest of my life? Like am I just, I'm a disabled myself for no reason. Like, luckily it's over. - To play chess. - Yeah. - To play chess.

- You just get punched and how long does it last? - This was like two months of nonstop headaches. - Jesus. - That's not worth it. Fuck that. For like 10 minutes on a live stream is like, is everything worth it?

Dangerous because so many people are into the creator boxing scene now and we don't really know how fucked up everyone's going to be because with professional fighters, when they're 50 or 60, they just can't speak. We haven't had like a proper debilitating injury yet and I'm sure one's going to happen. Some creator's going to get like...

- When you get one concussion, getting a second one is way easier. So it's like a cycle. And I guess 'cause everyone's not really a professional fighter, which what the fuck even is a professional fighter? Just someone who's been concussed a hundred times. It seems pretty rough. I mean, some of the fights look pretty bad afterwards. You see people who are pretty fucked up. You're like, oh God. - No. - Yeah, we were making videos like two days ago. Why are we?

Why are you doing this? - You already have a career. You're not trying to be a professional boxer. - But it must have been some kind of like, fuck, I wish I could have fought in that though. I trained so hard. - That's the thing, it's real love hate where it's like just the ultra competitiveness and unreal nature of it is just something else. Like it almost feels like it activates this kind of primal part of your brain. Like when I had it, it was just like,

like no thoughts, just focusing on kill man. With this weird like part of your brain. It's fun to be there for a bit. - How long did you train for the first greater clash? - I think I was training for like maybe seven months, six months. And there's a lot of like, the sparring was terrifying.

'cause I'd been in fights, but never thrown a punch before that, where it was just like mates being dickheads in a bar and then, but it was always like the option was like, if someone's gonna punch me, you run away. But then having to sit, stand in a ring and face this big guy that wants to punch you, who knows how to punch is like,

- How hard did you go in training compared to like the actual event itself? Because if you can get concussed in training that you obviously are going pretty fucking hard. - Yeah, my training, well for me, 'cause my fight, I didn't get punched. The training was much, much worse. Just punched over and over and over again. - You're like, oh, this is easy mode now. - How long were you training for the chest boxing one?

- That wasn't that long. It was like three and a half months. - That's still a long time. - It was great though. I love like, cause I've never been an athlete. It is pretty nice to have that kind of regimented life, have like a big goal and like have someone on the other side of the world who wants to beat the shit out of you. Like it's such a good motivator to do anything. I want to get Myth to beat me up just for like cleaning my room or learning the clarinet. - For making a video. - Oh yeah, I gotta make a video.

Would you guys ever do it? - No, hell no. - Maybe. - I mean, after hearing these stories, hell no. - I feel like it's just like a good excuse to get in shape. - Yeah. - The biggest thing, the biggest reason. - Yeah, but you can do that without getting punched in the head as well. - Yeah, but like sometimes- - Just go into the gym. - What better motivation is there than like the danger of getting hit in the fucking face? That is the best motivator you can- - I've never been more motivated in my life.

You don't want to be that guy who loses in the first round, right? Like that's a powerful motivator to get you to fucking train. I would have liked to have done it, but, uh,

Yeah, I have like a blood condition, so no one will allow me to. And also I shouldn't, 'cause it'd be dumb. - What, you weren't training for the slap boxing that you did? - No, I just fucking went up and did that. That was like last minute. - Yeah, yeah, 'cause what you were, it was meant to be XQC or something. - Oh yeah, you remember, right? - We were there, yeah. - 'Cause I remember I was pissing and he was like, "I don't know who I'll ask." I was like, "I might ask Alex." And I was like, "I don't mind doing it as well." Like I was like, "Sure." So that was all last minute. - But you were great. - Yeah. - Like your stage,

stage presence up there or just like, he looks like this is WWE. - That's very nice of you. - Yeah, I was all fucking last minute, you know, just kind of was like, all right, let's do it. We were sitting together drinking beers and then suddenly the production comes up to me. He's like, are you ready?

I was like, "What?" I waited two hours to go up. Then I started shitting myself. Fuck, I came here to like hang out and just like have a good time and drink beers. And then I had to go up. But it was fun though. It was definitely a good time. I didn't expect to go up at all. That was very unusual. - Since you were training for the chess boxing, 'cause I talked to like a bunch of creators who were part of the chess boxing event. And there seemed to be a disparity between how much training you put into boxing versus how much people were putting into the chess aspect of things.

Did you actually like practice any chess at all? I love chess. Like I've been smashing chess since I was a kid. My dad's like a competitive chess guy. So like I've been- Your dad's like 1400, isn't he? He's 1700. 1700, yeah. He's a big guy. Well, in boxing.

- He beats you as well. - What's the point of the queen? - That was my kind of secret weapon. - Well, Mith's chest was fucking awful. - Awful, yeah. - So you would have easily won on the chest. - You could have won with a concussion,

- The best thing about that was hearing that Ludwig had lied to you about Myth, but then Ludwig had lied to Myth about you. Myth thought you were 6'1 and you're actually 6'3 and what you thought he was- - I thought he was shorter than he was. And I thought Ludwig told me that he was like,

- Almost like 10 kilograms lighter than he was. And then you both found out at the same time, and you're both like, "What?" We look at each other, we're like, "Wait a minute, who is this guy?" - Oh my gosh. - Very, very funny. - So no more boxing? - I don't think so. I think I'm done unless there's someone that's just like a ridiculously easy opponent that I actually hate for some reason. I feel like boxing, if you actually hate someone, then you'd be like, "Well, there's a purpose here."

You hear boxers be like, oh, you want to box a friend? It's like, why do you want to give a friend a concussion? No, you should box someone you hate. A lot of those matches are like, they're friends with each other and it's like, oh. No, like me and Fitz and I think that would have been like,

a fucked up fight. Like we're both lanky, he's like six foot six. I think it would have just been both of us being really badly. - But also you guys are like in love with each other, which is like sucks. One of you is gonna go less hard. One of you is not gonna be able to be that angry. - You could do like they do in Brunei at the end.

- We were talking about that. - Just start having sex. - Just start having sex. Actual sex on the thing. In Florida as well. - I mean, they fucking sing the national anthem. - Yeah. - You're gonna be like, yeah, let's do it. Let's fuck. - Let's fuck. - Let's just start going at it.

That's the pay-per-view would be worthwhile. That would be great. You would steal the show. Yeah. Isn't it sponsored by Fansly? I think so. Maybe. Maybe something. That's a great piece. Well, yeah, it was Fansly. Yeah, yeah. Good way to launch our...

- Well, I don't think that's great. - Money's getting low, we gotta fund it more. Let's get it out. You've also made a lot of videos about guns in America as well. Both of you, right? - Yeah. - You did the one where you strapped an automatic gun to one of those dogs. - That was the most terrifying video of the same time. - And you did the video in the same ranch kind of talking about guns and the politics of America and why people are obsessed with guns. Okay, there's a lot to unpack.

Where do we start? Okay, I'm curious. How the fuck did you get one of those dogs? How did you convince someone to let you have a dog to put it down? - It was pretty funny 'cause it was one of the core- - It's like one of the Boston Dynamics dogs. - This was like a rip off version of that. Still a good dog. - A good boy. - He's a good boy. - How is there rip off versions of that dog? That seems like such a specialized tech. - Yeah, yeah. - It's crazy to think that there's a version of it. - China probably saw it and was like, "We can do that for cheaper."

- It might work as well, but we can do it for cheaper. But yeah, it was funny 'cause I hit up the company, which is, I'm gonna say their name 'cause I find it funny to piss them off, Unitree. I was like, "Oh, can I do this? I wanna put a gun on it." And they're just like, first they were interested and then when they heard the idea, just no response. So then I tried contacting different people, no one wanted to, but I found a man who wanted to remain anonymous.

- I didn't know you just named a random name. - Yeah. - Random man and people were so pissed off. They're just like, "You said anonymous, but you named him." It's a joke. But yeah, and then this guy really liked the idea and really wanted to know what would happen. And he happened to be in the same place as in Texas as the guy that had the guns. So it was like, this is perfect.

So yeah, we got in contact with him, got the dog and then went to Brandon Herrera's place. Who's a big gun YouTuber. - I'd never heard of this guy until this video. - Yeah, yeah. And then, you know, put a machine gun on the dog and it was terrifying. There was no- - That was a bad video.

- That is the most dangerous thing. That is the most, the scariest thing. - Because you just were controlling the dog via like a little dingy. - It was the GoPro app. And the worst thing was that I was like, okay, safety, we're behind a mound. So if the dog flips over, we'll be safe. But the,

- And then I had to like, stick my head up with the GoPro looking. And then when I saw it shoot, would have to dodge, but obviously you can't dodge a bullet. So if I turned towards me, it would have been too late. So it was like- - The dog was so unstable with like a fully automatic weapon on top of it. So like anytime it would burst fire, the dog would just like flip around. - It's legs would lift up, it would go, just run back. - Holy shit. - Yeah, 'cause like,

- Go. - Like how'd you go about testing that in a safe environment? - Yeah, we started with like one bullet in the magazine, single shot, but still it's really scary, just really scary. And that's like, my videos are scary, but then being around something that's well-designed to kill people,

And then mucking around with that is just like something else. - So why? - Well, I thought it would be like propose an idea to the Americans who seem very like willing to do anything else besides like gun control. I was like, let's do an American idea then of like machine gun on a robot dog to prevent school shootings.

It's like the political argument, like whenever a school shooting happens, a lot of people are like, oh, we need more guns. Yeah. And it's like, okay, what does that look like? Yeah, let's do the extreme of that. You know, robot dog in the classroom with a gun. Just kind of like, you know, just making fun of the whole thing. Right.

It's funny how annoyed Americans get at anything to do with taking guns away. Did you get a lot of heat for that video? Yeah, quite a lot of heat. I hadn't experienced that before. And it's scarier than normal heat because all these people have guns. It's not just a random death threat. It's like, oh, by the way, you can also do it. Yeah.

Yeah, this guy's not joking. And as well, some of them, because a lot of them were in America, but then I had some Australians hit me up and be like, you know, we've got guns here as well. And I was like, whoa. It's funny to piss someone off with a gun and their response is like, I'm going to shoot you. That's all I know. You've made a great case for gun control here. Did you get any threats or anything?

or was it just- - Yeah, a couple of death threats and like- - Like what? Like how dare you put a gun on a dog? I'm gonna shoot you. - Yeah, yeah. - I'm gonna shoot you. - Yeah, just talking about gun rights and stuff kind of thing. - Right. - And then you at the same place had a video kind of just more kind of political

Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.

- Tyranny is already happening. Like what are your guns? Like the guns are just a hobby. - And these guys that say they want to use their guns to protect from the government, they love the police. That was the main point of being like, you're not, you love the police. If the police came over, you'd suck them off. - You're not defending them. - You're not fighting these guys. That's not why you have these guns. - They're your buddies. So it's just pointing out that they're more of a hobby. - It's weird seeing it and they have like, they're like so proud to show off like guns from like World War II and they're like, this is a Nazi gun.

Why do you have this? No one needs this. How do you have this? And it's funny when you get an obsession with Nazi stuff because he was like, that's a bit weird. Yeah. Why did you have to bring that into it? Yeah. What I want to know is how you went from like, I guess like making political videos together to you kind of like doing, I guess making death machines. Like how did that come about? So that was kind of like my whole life. I've just kind of...

- He's made death. - I've been really interested in, yeah, it's not even a joke. It was just like at school, I was the kind of known as the guy that would blow things up. - Oh my God. - Like we would do like horrible things. Like, I don't know if you'd be saying this, but like making letterbox bombs and like-

- What? - And do them and then sometimes you'd put a letterbox bomb in someone's letterbox and then it wouldn't blow up. And then it was just like, it's like, is that the movie, "The Butterfly Effect?" - Yeah, yeah, yeah. - That's the scene and like, fuck, now there's this unexploded bomb in this old woman's letterbox. I'm like, do I run back and get it? - Wait, wait, wait. - How powerful of a bomb are we talking about here? - What the fuck is a letterbox? - 'Cause in Australia, you can't buy fireworks or bombs. So I would make, I don't know if I should say actually how to make the bomb.

- Don't say how to make it. - What is this thing? - So it's just like, basically it works. It's a chemical reaction that makes a gas in a, it's a pressure ball. So instead of just like, it's a gas that expands inside an enclosed space and then when there's enough pressure will blow up. - Right. - This sounds fucking dangerous.

- Yeah, yeah, it is. - It's like when you put like the dry ice in the bottle. - It's exactly that. It's exactly that, but just with different chemicals. - Why the fuck were you doing and building these? - 'Cause I just thought it was fun. - Making loud noises. - And I would muck around with thermite. I remember I- - How the fuck did you get thermite? - You can just make it. It's just, I don't know if I should say it.

- Yeah, but you could just make it. And then I remember I would tell people at school and then we came up with the ideas of melting the school's gate together so that we couldn't get back into school or something. And then we did this, it didn't work. I just set the grass on fire.

- No, it's probably my school now finding out that I did this. - I got asked, do you have any background in like engineering or science? - No, no, none at all. - Fucking hell. - Probably why I'm so bad at it. - That's the angle, right? People watch your channel to see you get hurt and like do things wrong. - I think so. Or probably to be inspired that like this guy that has no idea what he's doing, if he can make it, then maybe I can do something as well. - You sound almost as insane as Nigel.

- Yeah, Nile Red. - I think Nile Red's- - Nile Red actually knows what he's doing. - He knows what he's doing, but he's willing to take more risk. - Yeah, he would talk about his childhood and it was like, yeah, I just love- - It sounds very similar to yours. - Yeah, yeah, yeah. - Just getting, like farming the zinc from the batteries and being like, what the fuck is wrong? Are you a 10? Play games. - Yeah, he was telling us one time, yeah, I almost set like a school on fire.

or something just 'cause I was like fucking around. I was like, how would you get to that point? Have you ever had any bad almost accidents like growing up as a kid? - I feel like, yeah, I had a lot of accidents when I was a kid. A lot, yeah, a lot of always like,

cut fingers, like fucked up toes from... My worst accidents were not from... Or I had a pretty good one where I... - A pretty good one? - With a spear gun where I was like mucking around with it as a child and I didn't really know how to use things. And I strapped the spear gun down to a table. I don't know what I was trying to find out, but I thought, I didn't know spear guns had recoil. So I put my face really close to it, shot the spear gun and it goes back into my mouth.

split open my lip and my thing. And I remember just massive gash. But no, I think that's probably the worst injury I've had. So yeah. - Where did you grow up? - This was just in Sydney. Yeah.

- But there's things to do in Sydney, right? - Apparently not. - Joe, can you attest to this? Well, I mean, whereabouts in Sydney? - In the suburbs, like northern suburbs, like northwest suburbs of Sydney. - Really? - Yeah. - 'Cause I'm from Northern Beaches. - Really? - Yeah, and like, I'd never heard anyone of your magnitude doing anything like that. - I'm like- - I can't believe you're making bombs. - Yeah, yeah, we did some pretty good stuff.

- Pretty fucked up stuff in high school. - Yeah, I was back. - Have you guys been friends since high school? - Yeah. - Since high school. - Oh, wow. - The thing is like, before I met him, I wasn't doing any of this. I was playing World of Warcraft. - He was like, "Oh, let's go off to school." - "Let me take you into my world." - So you were the kid that every other parent was like, "Do not hang out." - Yeah. - Yeah, he was horrible. - Yeah, he was pretty bad.

- We had it as well. We used to play a game. Should we talk about sogging? - What the fuck? - Yeah, I guess so. I was more auxiliary to that game. I never did the bad. I don't know. - There was a game called sogging at school where like we had nothing to do. Like we probably did have things to do, but we thought it'd be fun to go down to like the highway and we would hide in the bushes and just throw various object at people.

at cars. - Oh my God. - And then the police would come and would run away from the police. And this was like a every week thing. - We had one friend that every time he'd do a poop, it's on like a napkin and then throw it at cars as they drove past. - That's what monkeys do. - Yeah, yeah, yeah. - Horrible. - And I still remember the expression, he threw it at a truck and this truck driver came out. He was like,

We just started chasing. I was screaming like, you shit on our truck or something.

- This is the worst thing ever. - This is really devolved, this podcast. - Why would you do that? - I didn't even really like it when we were doing it. I just wanted to have friends. - I guess this is what you gotta do. - This is what everyone is doing. - Wow player discovers how to make friends. - Yeah, yeah. - I guess this is how everyone makes friends in Australia, right? Just chuck poop and shit together. - Yeah, exactly.

- But that's kind of the origin of "I Did A Thing." You know, shit throwing to letterbox bombs to. - So you just wanted to like, yeah, just like, okay, I wanna bring this hobby of mine and just share it with the world on YouTube. - So the actual,

like the actual origin was, so yeah, the experience of that. And then Alexa and I made Boy Boy and Alexa I think went to Serbia for a year or six months and then- - I was meant to be there for like a very short time, got into like a relationship and just ended up there forever. And I was like, I'm not waiting for this guy. - Yeah, so then I was like after the Boy Boy and kind of realizing a bit of how much potential YouTube had, I was like, I think I can try this. I was like, what am I interested in? I was like making things and doing things. So I started that.

And I think I was at it for like a year with...

relative success. I think I had 25,000 subscribers in the first year. And then the day after the first year, one of the videos caught on. - Right. - And then just channel blew up and then- - Which video was that? - I made a video called "How Dangerous is a Metal Straw?" Which I tested just what a metal straw would do to a human head if you fell on it in your mouth. Yeah, it's pretty bad. - Yeah, I bet. - It goes straight through your head. - What was the first contraption that you made on YouTube then?

First contraption was probably a book that when you open it, throws a throwing knife into your face. Now, why on earth would you need that? I don't know how I came up with that idea. Just thinking of...

Yeah, I mean, no one thinks the ideas that you think of because no one should think of them. The tricky is Alex, you guys, not many people know this, Alex actually does not know how to read. And he's had a vendetta against books and he's just trying to like pay back people who actually do know how to read. Yeah, it was probably something like that in my head. No, a lot of the ideas, I'm just like,

- Yeah, out of context, I'm like, what does this look like? Do I look like a psychopath thinking of this idea? - I think so. - The answer is yes. - What I'm learning from most of the science YouTubers is that there are two science type YouTubers or building or engineering or whatever, the unhinged type and then like Mark Rober type.

- You're like, we're professional. We do everything above board. And then you have, all right, let's just explode things. Let's figure it out. Let's make a gun out of tampons. - The worst thing is like they all come up with crazy things on their own. But when you get these science guys together, it's horrible. Like at the zoo, like we were staring, staying at like an Airbnb with a bunch of them together and you and backyard scientists just pretty much destroyed the entire house. Like within, within,

- Within five minutes, they caused this explosion in the backyard. - What? - No, within five minutes I had stabbed Kevin, backyard scientist. - You stabbed Kevin. - By accident. - How did you stab him? - 'Cause we were in the house and we were trying to, we hyped each other up and the house had locked doors like every Airbnb does. And we were like, oh, let's go.

lockpick all the doors and just see go rubbish through them through their possessions like fucking horrible people and in the process of trying to lockpick I was using a knife to shimmy the lock open I slipped and just stabbed Kevin straight in the arm and just went straight through his thing just hit his bone and this was after five minutes and we had this moment where we stopped and looked at each other and we're just like why did we do this like how did we get here like how did I stab you Kevin exactly the same brand of ADD it's like and then you just

- You enable each other. - Yeah, yeah, it's pretty bad. - It's like when you see like a dog looking into a mirror and they're like,

- Kevin made backyard scientists, he made like his own rocket fuel. - Yeah. - Which is crazy man. - Which is like what? - Kevin's like the person I want to be in terms of like his level, like he's incredibly smart and just will hyper focus on something and just make ridiculous inventions. Like he's Tesla coil that plays music and,

- I felt I've never been a spiritual man. When I saw Tesla coil, I thought I saw God. It was crazy. - Have you guys heard them play music? - Yeah. - Oh my God.

- Oh my God. - And when you're in the same room as them, it does something where the air I think is charged. - Yeah. - So you feel like, you know, your skin is literally has goosebumps because there's static electricity, like pulling your hairs out of your body. - Yeah, I recently like played around with a Tesla coil 'cause I was hanging out with this Japanese YouTuber who's basically the equivalent of what you do, but Japanese. - What's his name?

- Yeah, yeah, unfortunately. - Yeah, yeah, yeah. So like he has a Tesla coil as well. And I went to his place to just hang out with him, make a video. And he was like, "Oh, let's try and cook marshmallows with a Tesla coil." And so we're just standing there holding this thing while this Tesla coil is just burning the shit out of this marshmallow. And yeah, as you said, like I felt my entire body just like get electrically charged. And I'm like, this is not safe. Like I should not be in this room right now.

- Was this a homemade Tesla coil? - Yeah, yeah. He had like made a Tesla coil. And I was like, is this safe? And he's like, well, I'm not dead. And I'm like, that's not a guarantee at all. - That's not a good barometer considering, yeah, if he doesn't know what he's doing with electricity, like you said. - But it's a bit of survival of the fittest, you know, if he's lasted this long, that means there's a filter and he's passing it.

- Have you ever had to do any like studying for like, or just like upping your knowledge for whatever you're building? - I talk shit about myself a lot, but I have gotten a bit better at making things in terms of like welding and machining abilities. It was nice in that now I can actually

work with something, break it down and turn it into parts that are usable and having the ability to like just turn metal into like bolts and threads and cut stuff is pretty cool because you can actually look at something like, whoa, I can make all the parts to this just with metal at home. Right. And then learning to weld is nice because it's just so strong and it's actually, people talk shit about welding a lot. We're like, oh, you have to do it in this right way. It's like, no, you can just kind of get a stick and go like this and it does just hold together. It's like...

- How'd you come up with your ideas for what you want to make or like your new videos? 'Cause sometimes I'm like, okay, that kind of makes sense. I look at Michael Reeves and I'm like, okay, there's some logic. It's like batshit crazy logic, but there's some kind of logic. And sometimes I look at your videos, I'm like,

- What the fuck are you trying to do? What are you trying to achieve? What are you trying to prove here? - I think it's usually starting from one place that's logical. Like something will kind of spark a bit of like a question in my mind. Just something I've seen in the world or something someone says. And then you just kind of go from there. You write that idea down and then you just twist it a little bit or tweak it. A lot of it comes from me thinking, oh, what would people on,

YouTube like what's interesting. - How can I put my life in danger in ways that are fun? - Yeah, I feel your videos are kind of like the questions that like high people like ask each other, except you make it a reality. - I feel like there's gonna be a lot of videos where both of you have been like, we should make this. And you're like, oh, this is a terrible idea. We should not do this. This is horrible. - Yeah, coming up with the boy boy ideas is fun. 'Cause it's really like, just like, I don't know, trying to,

push like political questions or things we're interested in, but you're like, oh, how can we turn that into...

- Like a political video. - Yeah, yeah. - Yeah, like I saw you, I don't know if this ended up being a trend, but I saw you snuck into like an arms dealer convention or something. - It did get a bit of people doing the same thing. - Yeah, we were talking about that and we had a lot of people just make the exact same video. - Yeah, yeah, 'cause I saw that one video that my YouTube recommended was like, oh, I snuck into a security convention. I snuck into an X convention, I don't know. - Yeah. - Which is very easy.

It was crazy when I was doing it. Yeah, it was so easy, but like, I assumed that it wasn't going to work. I'm like, of course it's not going to work. Why would I be in there? And then apparently no one checks it. So what was the process of like sneaking into this convention? Well, I mean, I was staking out the place quite a bit. I was thinking like, do I like jump the fence? Do I do this? And what I ended up doing was...

After the first day, all the kind of arms dealers had posted on Twitter being like, oh, I'm having a fun day at the festival. And they had all their lanyards there. I'm like, okay, I know what the lanyard looks like. I'll kind of copy it. But for legal reasons, I couldn't copy it exactly because it's like fraud. So I just... It was called Land Forces and I just called it fake passes. And there's like a QR code on there. I just put on a random website and I just walked in. And I think it's one of those like... And you get scanned and no one checks anything and you go straight through and it's just like...

I think the way it works, all of the security there are terrified of you 'cause you're some like hotshot arms dealer. Like, you know, you're gonna get them fired if they hold you up too long. - You could potentially work for Boeing. - Yeah, yeah, yeah. - You're not gonna say no to this guy. - It's just like confidence is like the biggest part of it. And like, it is creepy. - Looking like you belong. - Yeah. - I think the coffee's a big trick. - Coffee. - Like walking in with a coffee and a suit, like,

People are gonna be like, "That man belongs here. "He's late and he's grumpy and he's tired "and he needs to be in a meeting." - It's like the modern day equivalent of the high-vis. - Yeah, yeah, it's exactly it. It's like no one's gonna question you. - And the coffee's also nice 'cause you're terrified in there and you always wanna shake. And when you're holding something, at least you got something to do with your hand. - Did you get any flack at all for doing that or was it all just- - No, that was all fine. I think the nice thing about arms dealers is that everyone hates them.

- There's a lot of people on the internet that are going into bat like, "Hey man, you're a video." - That was an easier one. - All right, so you've learned how to launder money, how to get in any convention. Is there any other life hacks you've learned from making your videos? - What have we done? - What's something that like you've figured out through your videos that you're like, "This is fucked, but it's commonplace." - The money laundering, obviously that one.

- I don't know. - Blank you know, I've got every video I've done. - Yeah, I'm trying to remember the videos you've done. I'm trying to get through my head. I think I've watched all of them or most of them. - I think a big thing from Boy Boy is just how easy it is to lie as any kind of media company or what's considered like a fact that when you actually look into you're like, there's no real information. - There's nothing behind it. - Nothing behind it and people don't realize that whenever they're hearing a story, there's an agenda behind it.

It doesn't matter which country is saying it, there's always something like that. - I mean, it's because like objective news is boring, you know? It's boring and people don't wanna read it and engage with it a lot of times. So you need to like, I guess, spice it up. And we do the same thing as YouTube. We need to like sensationalize our thumbnails and titles as much as possible. - Was there any concern with when you were making

about like maybe Australian politics because, you know, like Friendly Geordies, right? Yeah. Do you guys know who this channel is? Yeah. Yeah, it covers a bunch of Australian politics and the kind of the corruption and stuff going on. And they firebombed his house. Yeah. Disgusting. Well, you don't know who, right? Yeah. But there's some good ideas about who it probably was. But yeah, I mean, the dude got his house. They tried to kill him. Yeah. Is there any kind of like, hey, maybe we should...

- So we did our money laundering video with him. He was like the original guy who exposed it. And like potentially they fire bombed him because of it. I don't know. I can't say who did it. - The fire bombing happened. So we filmed, the timeline was we filmed with him. Then two days later, before we released the video, he was fire bombed. And then we had to make the decision. I was really scared where I was like, cause I, cause,

- It was just before Christmas. Your gift to me was a fire extinguisher. - Yeah, and to my mum was a fire extinguisher as well. And she was so chill about it. She was like, "Oh, thank you. This is great. I'll hang it up in the shoe cupboard."

- Do you know why I'm, this is in case organized crime. - Yeah. - It was quite scary. - Yeah, but I think it's, you know, we were lucky that he, Friendly Geordie's exposed it first. Took the heat, hopefully, literally.

And then we were just like, yeah, it's happened now. Are they gonna firebomb another YouTuber? That's kind of lame. - But he was so lucky as well because he was meant to die. 'Cause he was meant to be there. And someone organized that he forgot his keys and he had to go stay at a friend's house. - Something like that. - It's insane. - Doesn't make any sense. - I mean, the thought that a YouTuber could be killed

or murdered for just talking about fucking politics. It's so crazy to get to that point where the YouTuber has that much influence that it would be a problem for the people, right? - I think what it is is that like journalists aren't doing their jobs. Like no one's reporting on this. So the only one who is, is this YouTuber. So he's the one who's gonna get fucked. - I guess 'cause there's so much, you know, with a lot of journalism,

there's a lot of money that is influence going on, right? And the only people who really don't have any, someone to answer to is just a random YouTuber. He's like, oh, fuck my Patreon. And it's like, okay, all right. This is weird. Like this is weird that it's come to this where only independent journalists can kind of really go after this stuff and afford to. Although to be fair, after the firebombing, I think his subscriber count like doubled.

Oh yeah. He got like 400. I fucking hope so. Yeah. I reckon he did it to himself. A little suspicious. It was a good video. I watched his video where he was like who firebombed family Geordie's. It was a great video. Yeah. It was a really good video where it was all laid out about it was really interesting stuff. He's a very impressive man. Like I don't understand if I got firebombed

it would probably end my career. I'd probably stop. - Yeah. - He was like so, so determined. It's very impressive. - Yeah, 'cause he also had, like one of his producers got arrested, right? - Yeah, Chris David. - Oh my God, David. - Yeah, this was like a whole big thing as well, like a year ago or something, right? Where they, I'm not too familiar with it, but it was kind of a crazy thing where he was,

making videos about a prominent political figure. And then they got like the terrorism or special terrorism. - Yeah, the fixated person's unit. - Yeah, to arrest this is like producer. It's just like, what the fuck is this? - It's just the funniest response when what you're doing is pointing out corruption and then in order to fight back, like we're gonna do the most corrupt thing

thing to you right now. I'll sell to you. Thank you, you've proved our point. I mean, it's really impressive that, yeah, I mean, it seems that a lot of Aussie creators, no matter what gets thrown their way, they're just like, fuck it. That's just the Aussie way, right? It's like a very Aussie response. You're like, your life, they try to ruin your life, you're like, I'll just do it more.

I'll make another tampon gun. That was kind of my reaction with the tampon gun. When they raided your house, you got the call while we were making another gun video. Yeah, I was making a gun video and then they got the call from my mum that the police were there searching for the gun and I was like, she was like, can you come home? And I was like, no, I'm filming a video with a gun at the

at the moment. So I was like, "Yeah, back to you." And she was like, she thought it was because of the current video I was filming. It was so funny that, yeah, the best thing was the police arrived at the door. They asked my mom, they were just like, "Oh, we're here because of a video Alex has made." And then my mom just starts listing the videos. Just like, "Is it this one?" They were just like, "Nope, nope, nope. Yeah, it's that one." - She's like, "It can't be the 10 one, guys." - Yeah, yeah, yeah, shortly. - Those police played it so well 'cause they were kind of like,

someone for your mum to vent to. Like they're like my crazy son is always doing horrible things. - Yeah, yeah. And I told her as well, I was like, "Mum, you don't have to tell like, you know, the police ask you questions, you can remain silent." And as soon as I said that, she was like, "Don't you fucking tell me to be silent. You don't tell me what to say. Like, you do, I would say whatever I want." And I was like, "Sorry, just please, you don't need me then take me to the hospital." - Like to, you know, to be a mother to you

Oh, yeah, yeah. It's pretty bad. Like the amount of like when I was helping her. Not to be rude, right? Yeah, no, no. It's completely true. Yeah, that's very reasonable. Just the amount of things to fix in that house that was just like, I don't even remember I shot through that wall. Yeah, because you just shoot through walls. And I'm like, how? My mom would be,

She would kill me if I was firing holes in the walls. - The trick is you get a piece of paper, you put glue and you put it on the wall and then she finds out three years later. - She leans against the wall. - Did she just not watch the videos and just firing shit? - Yeah, yeah, she did watch them. - The thing is you spent all your life kind of micro dosing her on like,

on dangerous things. And at least now you're making money from it. So it's kind of like, oh, I guess my son's got a job. Like he's- - What does your mom think about all this shit? - Well, I'm lucky that my mom is very supportive of all of it and was kind of like, 'cause she had a job that she hated. She was an accountant. So I guess in her opinion, she was like, just be anything besides an accountant. Please, please. - So you went the literal opposite direction. - Yeah, yeah. - So before you made this your job, how did your mom react to you fucking

and doing all this shit as a kid? - Oh, so I think as a kid, I was just hiding it a lot. Just trying to like- - That is the strat. - Sneaking out then doing it like after school, I would take days off, just would skip school to go do that. - Right. - Yeah. - You're fucking unhinged. - You're just like actually crazy. Like this is not-

- But I'm making money from it, Connor. - The bombs that I made as a kid was just the precursor to making money. - He would have become famous either from YouTube or he would have just been a terrorist. - What if you were doing this, but you were 15 years younger, like 15 years before.

There was no YouTube as an outlet. You would have just been like, all right guys. ISIS. You would have been the local like bomb city. Yeah.

- I remember once- - Just a bit of casual arson. - I was talking to a guy that was in SWAT. I was doing, I forgot what I was doing. I was doing some job before YouTube. And he said to me- - Some job. - He was just like, "You remind me exactly of all the guys that get caught making meth." That's probably what you do before YouTube. - Yeah, yeah.

- Oh my God. - Let's take a look at Nigel. Nigel was like that. Nigel was like, "Meth is rookie." - I've asked him so many times, I'm like, "Please, Nigel, make meth." - No, no, no. - You know he is. - He'd be so easy for him. - He'd be like, "I made meth out of cotton candy." He would be so easy for him. - When we asked him about it, he was like, "No, no, it's too easy." - Yeah, it's pretty easy. - It's not exciting. - I'm gonna make uranium glass instead.

- He's talking about uranium and stuff. We were like, this sounds bad. - Yeah. And it also seems like you get the authorities calling you for like the weirdest things. 'Cause he got one caught in him, like the government side, like looking into him for a thing. It's like a test tube or something. - It's like a specific type of tube that you would commonly use for making math. - Yeah. - Really? - But it's like test tube and fucking tampon

- It also sounds like the government doesn't, at least in when Canada was heroes, like the government doesn't regulate the really fucking crazy stuff. It's like, no one should be able to get this anyway. So there wasn't a lot of regulation around like uranium. It's like who the fuck can get uranium? Like you shouldn't be able to get it. So like why? Like they just didn't think about making rules. No one's gonna enrich uranium. - But also you can't, even if you get the uranium, you can't enrich it. - I've looked into it.

- That was one of your ideas. You wanna make a-

- I want us to do this video still. - Okay, okay. - Uranium video, should we? - There's gotta have been a video where you were concerned and you were like, "This is too much." - I hate all of them. - Yeah, I don't want him doing any videos. - It's so scary. - Like, this ceiling fan one looked terrifying. - Yeah, that was really bad. That's probably the one where it's the noise and the kind of like- - Scaring. - I don't know what it was, like the reverberation in the room of just like .

And then that getting faster. It was like the dumbest thing ever because you...

you had the ceiling fan with machetes that was spinning at only a speed that I can imagine that was so. And then as your defense, you just had this tiny piece of plywood. - It was underneath the fan. - And you were underneath it. And I'm like, even if it hit this, it's gonna go right through. - It would go right through it. - And I was like, what are you doing? Why don't you stand in front of it and just go like, all right, let's see. - My logic was that because it was spinning at high speed and it was above me,

it would almost be impossible. How does the blade get down? - It could bounce off something. - It could bounce, but then the speed would be taken out of it. - It's not enough. - It would be a lot. But I was like, it would fly through one of the walls or the garage wall where my brothers were standing, not me. - I think Alex is like a living example of what is it? Is it survivor bias or whatever it's called? He's done all these things that should have killed him and he just assumes that everything's safe now. It's just like...

- Oh my God. - Don't say this, I'm gonna die now. - I know you're gonna die. - There's gonna be a point where you're like, "Alex, no, this is bad." - I tell him every day, "Please stop." - Has there ever been a video you came up with where it's just like, "Nah, this would actually kill me if I tried to do it." - Yeah, so after I made a video where I made a Jacob's ladder, which is where you got a bunch of microwave transformers, hook them together and you create incredibly high voltage with high current.

- Yeah, you're doing it in parallel. You're playing with a dumb amount of amps so much that it would kill you instantly. - Well, yeah, amps is what kills you. - Yeah. - And then I wanted to make some more videos with electricity. One of them was doing this thing, I forgot the exact name now, but it's called lithographic art.

But it's basically like wood and it goes like, great cool patterns. I wanted to do some cool versions of that. And then I was like, no, it's just not worth it. - How far did you get into the video before you're like- - Oh, I had made all of it except for actually doing the art. And I was like, no, it's not that interesting and it's not worth the risk. So that's why it was kind of like, if it was interesting enough,

- It didn't explode. So it's kind of a bad thing. It doesn't go boom. - I think "Boy Boy" though has some good, better examples of stuff where we're like, can we do this? - Yeah, 'cause you, it's got, I mean, it's a different pressure. - Yeah, yeah, yeah. - Is this acceptable in society? - Yeah, yeah. - Will my body survive? - Yeah. - You're constantly putting everything on the line. - Yeah, yeah, yeah. - Well, with "Boy Boy" we had it, we were seriously considering going to Afghanistan to film with the Taliban. - What the fuck? - Oh my God.

- When? - Recently.

- What the fuck? - As soon as America pulled out, we're like, no more war, this is the time. - Yeah. - What? - You are insane. - We were like, we'll go talk to the Taliban, see what's happening there. - No. - So what do you like? - Every single country collectively, like, do not go through our country. We cannot help you if you go there. - That's what they said about North Korea. And so like- - Came back with a fresh cut. - I don't think you can just tell

- I'm like, "Hey, here's all the Taliban. Hey, here's all my details." - Here's my resume. - I'm thinking about a week tour. Like, can I see the sites? - Can I get a haircut there? - Okay, so you were thinking about going to Afghanistan. What is the point where you're like, "No, I'm good." - Literally a couple of weeks ago when a guy got kidnapped. - YouTubers got taken hostage by the Taliban. That was when we're like- - Was it the British guy? - Yeah. - I think British guy did not bald and bankrupt. - No, he was Lord...

- The guy who'd bought one of those, okay, this dude was fucking weird. - He's a strange guy. - He's like a 4chan kid who he bought one of those shitty established title scam things and somehow actually managed to convince his bank to put Lorde on it. - That's why he's Lorde. - And then he went around actually like, 'cause then his bank had done it, so it's really easy to get everyone else to recognize the Lorde thing. And then he went to Afghanistan and was vlogging.

And then it was like a whole fuck situation. He was just unhinged. - I am a lord. - It was clearly, it was clearly. - Come to me everyone. - But see, we do it in the non-unhinged. We'd be the normal ones. - He clearly was just mental illness just in Afghanistan. - Yeah, he seemed a bit of like a psychotic episode turned into a YouTube. - Yeah, like he clearly had like,

needed some attention and it took it to an extreme level. And he was just hanging around like vlogging when he was with the Taliban. - Yeah, 'cause he already had a video out and we saw that and we're like, "Oh, this is, we can do this. This is easy." And then it turns out, you can't. - You pushed it too far. And that's the thing, it's you don't know until you're there and there's a lot of different factions and infighting, whatever. So at the end of the day- - It's also like, what do you, like, I mean, from a,

what would you get out of it? Like, what would you, no, I don't think we- - 'Cause it's not like we love the Taliban. - Are you actually getting anything out of this? Or is it just 'cause you're like, you sound stupid. - I don't know what we're getting out of it, but fuck it. - What's the angle? - I mean, we usually have an angle. - We have a lot of opinions on the war. Like I think it was a horrible thing.

And I guess just going there is like a gimmick. And then we've got an excuse to talk about it. - No one goes to Afghanistan for a bit. - It's just a great YouTube thumbnail. Like we joined the Taliban or something. And then it was like, what? And then you watch it and then you see like our whole spiel about the Afghan war. And then trick people into listening to it. - It would be on every fucking Sunday for that.

- Bald and bankrupt. - Yeah, well he went. - He's a freak dude. He's just weird. - So this YouTuber that got kidnapped, what happened? Is he still kidnapped? - I don't fucking know. - I think he might still be kidnapped. - Jesus. - How have I not heard about this? - He's barely a YouTuber. - Yeah, he's got nothing to do with it. - He fell off. - How is this not a Charlie video at the very least? - 'Cause I think when it's like,

it's like that kind of character, it makes it worse when you give that, those kind of people. - You don't enable it. - Yeah, you're enabling him when if you're talking about what he's doing, which I mean, we should, you know, I mean, but it's like,

it's one of those things that when you're, I guess it comes up and it's relevant now, but it's like, you don't want to give this fucking dude attention because it's exactly what he fucking wants. - And I think he was trying to push it. Like we make jokes. I think we still try to do things that are relatively safe. But he really did just push it a lot where it was like, what did you want here? What was your end goal? - I think you can go to some of these countries if you have a local fixer and really take care of you. But I think he literally was just

- Just fucking show up there. - Just going around doing whatever you want. I mean, you know, yeah. A lot of the time you do need a fixer, which is the hard part. And I think often YouTubers who do go to these places don't show that they have a fixer or not kind of, they're like, oh yeah, I found this all out where it's like some dude has literally got you on a leash

- Literally saving your life. Leave the dude alone, I've got money. - Yeah, it's pretty crazy. - Yeah, aside from Afghanistan, has there been any other videos that you've made? - I just feel like you wanna go to Warsaw. - Yeah, yeah. - You're doing like real life journalism now, like straight up. - It's pretty cool. It's like you guys are really going out there and documenting this stuff, but also,

it's so sarcastic and so downplayed that it almost feels like this is unreal. - Yeah. - I think that's the whole aim. 'Cause I find, I don't know personally that, I mean, there are other people that do some kind of journalism, but like, I just find it so boring.

If you're not making jokes, it's like who are you even... You're talking to people who are interested in the news, who already know all this shit. Like if you're making jokes, it's like you're actually talking to people who aren't going to listen to any of this. Like we wouldn't otherwise listen to any of this. But to answer your question, it's kind of... We're going to sound super dodgy, but there are places that we wanted to go that we still want to go that we can't talk about because if we tell you, then we'll be stopped from going there.

- Yeah, we shouldn't even say that much. - Fucking Australian government, you're leaving. Please just go to America. Go to a nice place. - Just go to Afghanistan, please.

- Oh my God. - How long until you guys want to watch this, man? - Well, I found someone released on Twitter, someone that works at a security expo or something like that, or just worked in government surveillance or security, released a, took a photo of a slide show that was playing in a security conference, which was a threat assessment of one of my videos.

and had like a rating. It was the video where I used drones to drop metal darts from 200 meters and show that you could pierce a car and be fairly accurate with them. And then someone did a assessment on it. It was like security threat. It wasn't that high. It was like a four out of 10. Were you disappointed by that?

- Were you disappointed by that? - A little bit. - You had a crazy one from that video 'cause someone used exactly the same mechanism you- - That was scary. - In the war in Ukraine? - Someone sent me a video and it was like the same. I mean, it's a pretty simple concept. It was just drone takes up something, drops it.

- Yeah, but drops it using the light. - The same, yeah, it was weird 'cause I used, 'cause Mavic doesn't have like a trigger mechanism or way to trigger anything except for you can turn on and off a light. So I just had an Arduino which had a light sensor so when you turn on the light, then that triggers a servo motor which opens the arm and you can drop something. And then someone used it like exactly the same and even like, it just looked like it was the same 3D printed file. And I was like, oh, that's a bit,

- And they used to drop grenades in- - On Russians, or maybe Russians on Ukrainians. - So you think maybe they got inspiration from your video or? - I mean, I don't know. I think it's a pretty dropping stuff from the sky. - Yeah, yeah, yeah. - Pretty common concept, but it was a bit like, oh, that's right. The video has 8 million views. So there's a chance that someone's watched that and thought, great. - You should take credit for your good work. The war in Ukraine wouldn't have happened if it wasn't for you.

- I am responsible. - Instead of sneaking into an arms convention, it would just be, we ran an arms. - We started an arms convention right now. - What a character development. You went from just blowing shit up in your yard or whatever to now, I guess making- - Everyone starts somewhere, right? - You gotta start somewhere. - I'm humble, but get a dream big. - Hustle and grind.

- Oh my God, both of your guys' ideas are like, what's wrong with you both? It's so unhinged. - Do you have any video ideas for Japan though? - Yeah, we've got a good one we wanna do 'cause I think in Japan there's the big culture of salary men and talking about how Japan's such an interesting place where it's so high energy and fun. And then on the other hand, you have high suicide rate, depressed people,

stuck in the same job. So I think we wanted to do a job where Alexa and I become salary men, so live exactly the lifestyle. - Connor. - We haven't pitched this, this is us pitching it. Working for Connor, salary man, then we get drunk,

- We sleep in internet cafes. - We sleep in internet cafes and you can get those pre iron suits in seven 11s or something. - Oh yeah. - And we just see how long we can last. - Yeah, see what it's like. It's not very accurate. - We have to drink a lot. - Yeah. - Yeah, yeah. - We try our best. - We'll take some sacrifices. - What's like the limit for that though? - I don't know. I think is a week. - As long as Connor's willing to employ.

- Until we get fired. - Oh God. - How much am I paying you for this? - I don't know what's minimum wage in Japan for a salary man. - It's pretty fucking low. - That's what we're doing. We want to be authentic. - What's minimum wage in Japan?

- For a full-time job? - Oh, full-time's way more, like part-time's really low. - Part-time, like yeah, if you're working at part-time at like a 7-Eleven, it's like 700 yen an hour. - Can we Google it, Kai? - So that's $7 an hour? - It's like six, $7 an hour. - Yeah, what is it, Kai? - 961 yen, so. - Like $9 an hour?

- That is not $9 an hour in this economy, man. - I think you're talking Australian dollar. - Oh, Australian dollar. - And Japan's higher cost of living than Australia in terms of what you get per dollar or is it- - See, I've heard that, but I'm not too sure 'cause like my general consensus is that Australia is just way too fucking expensive. - Certain things are way more expensive in Japan.

and certain things are a lot cheaper. So like eating out is really cheap, but also certain food items are very cheap, but maybe stuff that we're more used to eating that we kind of get really cheap is a little bit more expensive. - I think maybe it's the whole thing of like the rent is expensive for how much space you have. - Tokyo is, Tokyo is. - Yeah, Tokyo is. - Outside of Japan, it's very cheap, very affordable, but also you're not near anything.

- Well, that's why there was this whole craze about you can buy really, really cheap houses in Japan. But just like the catch is that you're in the middle of fucking nowhere. - And you have to live there. - You're in Fukushima. - I'm sure there are plenty of houses there. - Yeah, I mean, not a good area to view. I mean, it's fine now, but obviously you don't know what the consequences are. - Yeah, exactly.

- But no, Japan's a cool place though. - Yeah, I'd like to see. - Never been and yeah. - How have you never been? It's so close. - I don't know. - It is not close. - Well, I mean, it's close relative to other places. - Well, I guess, yeah. - It's fucking far from everything. - Yeah. - It's like a 20 hour flight from everything. - Yeah. - No, I think it's 'cause maybe China was the more unhinged, like the more interesting version of Japan. - Because you guys have been to China a bunch, right? - We can't stop going to China, yeah. - Why China? - It's just so weird and cool. - Whereabouts have you been in China?

All over the place. All over. I don't even know. We started up, first time we went like up north, Beijing, like inner Mongolia. Because my parents were actually born in Harbin, which is in northern China. Right. Because they were Russian immigrants that got kicked out of Russia. And they lived in China. So it was kind of like a place where I'm like, oh, it'd be interesting to see, you know, if there's any Russian stuff left there. And it's like, no, now there's just a city of 10 million people and like nothing left. It's like crazy. Wow. Wow.

- This is a cool place. Love the food. Everyone's like hilarious. Everyone like really friendly. I don't know. - It's probably like Japan a bit where like people are just really excited to see white people see a bit. Kind of like cheating where you just like you rock up to a village. - I think maybe China more so than Japan I think. - Oh yeah. - 'Cause Japan they're kind of like fucking tired. - They're sick of it. - And China is just so massive. The thing I really love about it is you can go to a city with like, you know, the same population as Sydney

but no one's seen a white person before. - Yeah. - It's just crazy. Like, how is there that many people here? But it's like, so it's just its own thing. I don't know. - I mean, I guess like the politics around the country have kind of made it pretty kind of shut off. - Yeah. - Yeah. - When was the last time you went to China? - Before, just before COVID. - Just before COVID. We actually filmed a video in a wet market in China.

- In Wu Hai? - In Wu Hai? - Yeah. - Oh my God. - With crew from Wu Hai. - Yeah, yeah, yeah. - Oh my God. - Just before COVID. - Wait, wait, wait, wait. - Before COVID. - What were you filming in, was it just about the wet market? - It's kind of dodgy. - This is a video that's- - Is it out or is it gone? - It's being released soon. - It's gonna come out soon. - We went to the dog meat festival in Yulin. - For what purpose?

- So we're kind of exploring the nature of- Exploring why we're so offended with Chinese people eating dogs when we ourselves love to eat so much meat. And exploring what's the difference, is there actually a difference between a dog and a pig? And then exploring the cultural reason as to like,

why we just like pinning it on Chinese people. - Do you reckon that's gonna piss a lot of people off, that video? - I think it's hard 'cause dogs are such lovely animals and we love dogs and it's like, you know. - But it's hard. I feel like if you lived with a pet pig, you'd have exactly the same relationship. Like they're pretty, they're very smart, very cute. - Yeah. - Yeah. - Like I know a lot of people who don't eat pork, including my mother-in-law, just because, you know, they were just like, I can't do it. I see the pigs same way they see as dogs. - Yeah. - Yeah.

Yeah, religion as well. That's the thing. When we were there, we were at the festival interviewing a bunch of people. A lot of guys were just like, Westerners don't eat dogs. Indians don't eat cows. It's the same thing. Yeah. Yeah.

- Yeah, well, I mean, fair enough. - Were people pretty open to just talking on camera there? - It was surprising that people were like, "Yeah, fuck it." - I guess they don't know any better, do they? - No, they had some good opinions about it as well. And like, some people had some dumb opinions. - Oh yeah, they were like, "Oh, we only eat the bad dogs." - We only eat the bad dogs, yeah.

- And the obsession with it making you better at sex was so strange. - Oh yeah, dogs like crazy. - Yeah, and this guy was just like, yeah, makes you really good at sex. And then he offered the dog's penis to Alexa. - That was so trippy. So I was eating a dog's penis and-

- It was what you don't realize. Or maybe you guys know this, I don't know. But they've got this thing called a baculum, which is like they have a bone inside their penis. - Oh yeah. - I didn't know that. - When you say yeah, yeah, yeah, like you're like, yeah. - I'm trying a dog's penis. - I mean, I've owned many dogs. - But in my head I was like, oh, it's just, it's like my penis. And I just bit straight through it and like almost like chipped a tooth on a dog's penis. I didn't realize it was just a hard bone inside. - What the fuck?

- Sorry mate, that's probably the wrong thing to do. - What the fuck? - I just love the opening to that sentence. - I was eating a dog's dick. - I was also trying to eat a dog's dick. - The angle was we wanted to interview all these people there and I think coming in as a Westerner, the idea is that you're there as an activist and you're trying to stop people from eating dogs. So like in order to get the best interviews, we were- - You were eating it. - We were eating it.

- Well, I ate like two kilos of dog. - We ate so much dog. - I like actually became vegetarian for like two months. - Oh, that's crazy. - Just so sick of like just eating meat.

- I feel like I'm talking like an undercover cop right now. Who's like, yeah, I had to try all the drugs when they had to go and put it out. - It's like kind of like Louis Theroux a little bit, right? He'll do whatever, you know, if they're a porn worker, he'll go and do everything except the porn, but he'll do everything else around it right now. I think that, you know, if you are willing to show people that you're not judgmental, it's just like, hey, can you just, I wanna just honestly know why you do this. And I'm not coming here to like,

run a hip test. It's like, hey, could you just tell me and I'll eat the dog dick. And it's like, it is confronting and especially like seeing dogs. You're just like, fuck, this is horrible. But like at the same time, like they found it confronting just the quantity of meat that we eat. Like they eat so much less. Like it's such a smaller part of meals over there. Yeah.

- So presumably they were all speaking in Chinese. How did you navigate these individuals? - We had a fixer. - We had a fixer for that. - Okay. - It helps a lot. - How'd you go about finding a fixer for like a certain country? - He was just a guy that had just made, just posted on social media. I think he actually studied in America. And then he was a guy we saw. - Brought in a couple of friends. - And then he, it was actually just, it was funny 'cause it was his friends.

and there was just too many people there and everyone was doing different things. And it was really, it's really hard. I'm sure you guys have probably worked in countries where you don't speak the same language. It's so hard to communicate what you want. - Oh yeah. - Especially with working with real people who are doing something else and they wanna be- - Yeah, they're like, "I don't fucking care about you." - Yeah, yeah. - Yeah, yeah. So it was like, but we managed to get some footage to talk to people and-

- Oh, awesome. - Just cool. - Yeah, I'm curious 'cause I haven't been to China since they added like the whole social credit kind of system. - Oh really? - How bad is like the surveillance there nowadays? - We found it interesting 'cause we didn't really, there were some rules you're meant to follow in China. One of them is you're meant to let the government know which hotels you're checking into. We didn't do that the entire time and we didn't get in trouble at all. - I honestly, I feel like it might be a bit overblown 'cause it felt a lot more chill than I expected. - Do you reckon it makes you a tourist?

- Probably, yeah. - But that's the thing is you can't go in on a journalistic visa. - Oh yeah. - 'Cause you're not allowed. So when we were going in, we're going in as tourist visas, filming undercover, not telling people what you're doing. And then when we did have interactions with the police, you just kind of pretend you're not.

- When did you have interactions with the police? - So at the festival we were filming and obviously we're not meant to. But a cop came up to us and it was just so chill. Like I don't even- - They took a photo with us. - Yeah, yeah, yeah. - Yeah, 'cause they were like, they asked us if we were activists and we're like, no, we're not here. We're just here to eat some dog meat. - It's like, "Mom, man." - And then they were like, they were almost confused. They were just like, "Oh, okay. You can kind of stay there, I guess." - Yeah, it's a weird comparison though.

I think it is quite chill for us to go there. I think they come down real hard on domestic journalists. Of course. As a foreigner, I think there's just like, it's too much of a PR disaster for them to do anything. They're pretty relaxed. Yeah, the guy we were chatting to, our fixer, he really didn't want to talk about politics in China because he was like,

It's just, it's scary to do. - Yeah, for sure. - Like how'd you go about filming covertly? 'Cause I guess you can't just fucking rock up with DSLRs. - We kind of were. - That's what we did. - We had it one time, like the end of the trip, we were walking through this random,

I forgot where it was. It was just outside of Yulin. And we came across the sweatshop where these kind of like mothers were working and they actually had their kids kind of like playing in the sweatshops as well. Some were mucking around on machines. And we just walked into the sweatshop

sat down on a sewing machine and just started pretending to make things and were filming. And these, everyone just found it hilarious. It was so strange. - We were just working in a sweatshop. It was so funny. - That's all gonna be in the video. - When's this coming out? - When Alexa finishes making it. - Oh, I'm sorry about that.

- Do you ever stop to think like, this is fucking insane. Like what we're doing is so fucking sweet. - Yeah, some of that was- - Then you get addicted. - You're like, next one's gotta be worse. - Oh my God. - So when you travel to these countries, do you actually go with a journalism visa most of the time now? - Never. - No one's gonna give it to us. - Imagine if you'd be part of like BBC or whatever. - And also it just takes a long time.

- So like with China, it's like there's a vague possibility that we could have gotten a journalist visa if we waited like a year or two. - I imagine you're under more scrutiny though. - Yeah, exactly. - That's the point of it. 'Cause you're going there to do journalism, possibly criticizing a country. So it's weird for a country to be like, yeah, come on in, criticize us. And they do do it, but obviously then they're watching you. - And I think it's also where we live in an age where like consumer grade video technology is very good now. - Great.

there's no real difference between what we use and what like an ambitious tourist uses. - Is there any concern for being banned from certain countries or getting arrested? - Some video ideas like the one we're not talking about where it's like, yeah, you can do stuff and then if you piss off the wrong people, you just get banned from America.

- Right, right, right. - Damn. - What's your opinion on like modern day journalism then? 'Cause it kind of feels like you are trying to bring a new angle to journalism, trying to make some jokes, trying to do it like a different direction to what every other like, I guess mainstream news outlet does. - Yeah, I think there's some big blind spots. Like, I mean, there's a lot of good journalism out there still. It's pretty rare in my opinion,

The biggest one is like anti-war stuff doesn't exist. It's so freaky. Like especially... I mean, what we're concerned right now is with like China, war with China. It's just like everyone's set on it. Everyone's like, we're going to war. Like every news article is like, it's going to happen. And even like the ABC government and stuff or SBS, news channels in Australia that are meant to be like... Balanced. Balanced. And it's like just pushing for war and everyone kind of forgets. It's like a lot of journalists are just like...

almost trying to justify either side. It's like, no, no, no, no, this is never good. It's like Russia and Ukraine. It's like, no, no, just the whole thing's bad. Like war's never good. Let's not do war.

- Yeah, let's just avoid that at every cost. - Like I said, 'cause it gets clicks, right? War's scary and scary gets clicks. And that's kind of where a lot of journalism is at right now is just about sensationalizing and getting people angry or worked up or scared. - Definitely. - Yeah. - And also I think it's like, it's so incestuous in that like so many of these big media companies are,

funded by the same companies, essentially. Or like they're all sponsored by different things. It's just like, they have like really strict limits to how much they can move and who they can, what companies they can tread on the toes of. It's like, yeah. I like how you use the word incestuous to describe that. I was like, where are you going with this? My mind went places. No, it's insane that, you know, some of what it feels like

modern day, you know, legitimate journalism is being just done by some random guys on YouTube now. Like I think back to like, you know, channel five started off doing like fucking interviews of like the craziest conventions you can find in America. And then one day I go on my YouTube and he's like in Ukraine talking to some of the survivors or some of the refugees. And I'm like, fuck.

Is this what modern day journalism is like turning into now? - Yeah. - I mean, I remember during the Black Lives Matter protest, he was like, he was just in a store. - That was on fire. - Yeah, yeah. - And you notice like journalists could be doing this. Like there's nothing stopping you from doing this. Like it's, yeah, it's pretty impressive. - Yeah, it's insane. It's all just all because like you said, they're just being paid by people and they don't wanna tread on their toes. - Yeah. - Right, right.

- Have you ever been banned from a country or? - No. - Yet. - I was in Singapore, I got banned for two weeks, I think it was 14 days because when I had been doing a trip, me and Alexa traveled through China and then Russia and then into,

I was in Bosnia and there was a war there and I was just walking this random town and I found bullets on the ground. So I put the bullets in my bag. - Why did you do that? - I thought I wanted to take them home. I didn't think about it. Forgot about them, traveled a bunch. Then in Singapore, that's when they found the bullets.

And then they interrogated me. Not, it wasn't too bad. - And then they saw your YouTube channel and they're all like. - This was before. - This was before YouTube. - Oh, so why the fuck were you roaming around Bosnia and Russia? - This was just for fun. - No, Bosnia was a visit. I mean, I've got family back in. - Oh yeah, Bosnia. - Back in former Yugoslavia. - Okay, yeah. - Alex's family. And then I just wanted to check out the area and this cool place called Mostar. And there was a civil war there.

- Yeah, and then Singapore like found the things and I think I got a 14 day ban, which isn't very much. - That's like nothing. - Nothing, but they said if I bring weapons in again or bullets in, then I face prison time. - They literally did a Twitch ban for you. - 14 day ban. - 14 day ban. He's gonna have his comeback stream. He's like, "Guys, I'm back in Singapore now." - "No bullets this time." - The only dude I know who would just pick bullets up off the floor and take them.

- And forget about it. - They're interesting, I don't understand. - But also like what kind of clumsy terrorists they think you are. Like you've gone and done training with some militia and you're like, whoops, accidentally kept my- - Yeah, they asked me, they were like, have you been training with terrorist organizations? I was like, no, I don't think so. Like maybe. - It's your family. - Yeah, it's your family. - It's the family business. - So you guys have obviously done a lot of traveling even like before YouTube. How many places have you been to then?

- I don't know, maybe, I think I've probably been to 20 countries around that. - That's pretty fucking impressive. - Yeah, it's not that much compared to like the people that consider themselves travelers, you know, people on YouTube have done like 150 close to 198 countries. - I think our issue is we used to travel a lot and then as soon as we went to China, we're just like, well, I guess we're just gonna keep going to China. - We're also making content as well now. - Yeah, that's true. - Now I almost get a bit annoyed when I've traveled to a place and I've,

I find it really hard to find a reason to take a holiday. I almost get a bit bored where I'm like, I could be making something.

- It becomes a bit of a content. - Yeah, well, when traveling becomes part of your content, you're like, well, I could be working right now. This is unoptimized. - And it gives you a mission as well. It's like playing a video game where you have a quest and you're like, I'm not just traveling 'cause I wanna sit on a beach and get drunk or pool, you know? - We used to do that. We used to have little quests even before we would make content. Like when we were in China the first time, they had this thing around Beijing, potentially in other cities where,

I think because of like nuclear war, they decided to build all these bunkers. And now they're kind of like unused, but there's like whole bunker system underneath Beijing that's like linked up and just really hard to find. And we spent like weeks just looking for these things. But like now we look back like, fuck, that would have made a nice video. Like you ended up finding them and they were like- - And I found them by accident. I was staying in this just Airbnb. And then one day I've just walked underneath one of the apartments. I was like, oh, that looks like the,

the symbol for bomb shelter. And I went underneath and then there was just like tunnels and you walk through like the atomic bunker doors. And then there was just people living in these bunkers underneath Beijing. And then I told election, I'm like, dude, I found the bunkers. None of this was recorded. - You're sleeping in your bunker.

- And a six foot four white guy just has a look around. He's like, "This is sick." - That literally happened. Literally happened. I was like, "We need to go back." And then I'm walking through the bunkers. I'm walking deeper and deeper. And then I'm like, realizing I'm like, "I am in someone's house." Someone's cooking and she's looking at me. I'm like, "I'm a monster. What am I doing here? This is just amusing for me. This poverty porn." And me being like, "Yeah, oh, bunker." - Holy shit.

- Oh my God. - So this was before you started making- - This was before YouTube. - What is your ideal holiday? - Yeah, yeah, yeah. - I need some time off. I need to go see a bunch of people. - Most people, they like going to the beach, you know, chill out with a cocktail. - Is there a country you wanna go to that's not necessarily linked to content?

Or is it always just like, yeah, I can make a video. - Well, it's all content now. Our brains have been melted. - It's hard to think of. - I'm just fascinated with the bizarre and the weird parts of human experiences. - Yeah, and then meeting the people there and then showing their way of life to people on YouTube is pretty cool. - Is there any like cool countries you went to before? You know, like you started traveling for content?

- Probably not, no. - I love Cuba, but that's a totally another thing. - Yeah, if you go to Cuba, you can't go into like the US, right? - Can you go now? - I think you can actually, but I think there's still some limitations around Cuba in some sense. I'm not exactly sure what.

But yeah, I mean, other than that, do you guys watch anime? - I do actually. I was a bit of a, when I was growing up, I loved Hayao Mizuki. I still really like Ghibli, Gilby films. - Gilby. - Fucking Gilby, mate. - Gilby, I love Gilby, studio Gilby. And then I watched a lot of Naruto. I watched Bleach.

- Oh, hell yeah. - I watched "One Piece", I watched "Death Note". - Nice. - How much of "One Piece" did you watch? 'Cause that's, you know, when you say you watch "One Piece", that means a lot of things, you know? How far did you get? - I didn't watch that much "One Piece", I watched a lot of "Naruto". I watched like seven seasons, eight seasons. It was like a hundred, I think it was like 160, 180 I was up to. - Yeah. - That's a lot. - Like 300 episodes?

- Yeah, it's more than that, I think. - Just close, just shy of 400, I think. - Yeah, yeah, 'cause there's Naruto and then Naruto Shippuden, which is like the longest season. How far did you get?

- I don't remember where I got up to, but yeah, around 180 or something, I remember. - Fucking hell. - It was a lot? - Yeah, that's a lot of episodes, man. - It's more than Connor. - Yeah. - I haven't watched Naruto. I really want to now. - Really? - What, you watch anime or you- - Yeah, I mean like barely. I watched heaps of, it doesn't even count. I watched heaps of Dragon Ball Z and Pokemon as a kid.

But before coming on here, I'm like, I gotta do the crash course. I gotta go. Literally, well, I just ended up watching all the Studio Ghibli films again. But no, what I did find was Cowboy Bebop. And I'm like, this is the coolest thing I've ever seen. I was like, what have I been doing all my life? It's like, I loved it. - Yeah, it's good. And what's annoying, have you watched the new, what's the, what's that?

- What's the one that's copied off the computer game? - "Cyberpunk." - "Cyberpunk." - I was just like, this is just "Cowboy Bebop." - But worse. - Yeah. - How is it the fuck is it "Cowboy Bebop?" - 'Cause it's just bounty hunters. - Bounty hunters in like, I don't know. - You don't think so? - I don't know.

- No. - That's the first time I've ever heard that comparison. - I liked it a little bit. - I made that comparison as well, but I actually prefer Cyberpunk. I don't know. I think, I think Cowboy Bebop is great, but I like having like an ongoing storyline. - Oh yeah. - Yeah, Cowboy Bebop was just like every episode was kind of like self-contained.

That was cool. That's some like really cool fucking ideas, but Cyberpunk was just like group of bounty hunters and you see their journey from like beginning to end. - Cyberpsychosis was sick too. - Yeah, that was cool. - Holy shit. Some of those scenes. - That's cool. - Yeah, yeah. Some of those scenes in Cyberpunk were just so insane. - The opening scene of the show. - Yeah, yeah. - The battle scenes were just awesome.

- Did you play the game as well? - No, I didn't. My brother played it, but he just complained about the glitches. - It was so bad. - I'm not touching this. - It was so bad. - Also it's hard with video games 'cause like I get obsessed and if I download it, I'm just not gonna make videos ever again. I have to keep it safe, you know? - Yeah, that's the tough part. - Do you still game a lot or not anymore? - I don't do any, I play online chess.

The greatest game. That's the original OG Addicted. Hasn't needed a patch in thousands of years, man. It's the OG. They've not needed to patch that or anything. She's watched a fair amount.

- Yeah. - You've watched- - It's a real wolf. - "Side Park." "Side Park" is pretty weeby. That's pretty anime. Yeah. - Yeah. - That's pretty deep in the source. - Sick. - What's your favorite studio Gilby anime? - I reckon probably "Princess-" - Mononoke? - Mononoke. - Yeah. - Or "Howl's Moving Castle." - I like "Howl's Moving Castle." - Yeah.

- Yeah, I really liked "House Moving Castle." I watched it so many times, but Princess Mononoke, just the nature of this human. - I'm gonna say the most basic, but I really like "Spirited Away." - "Spirited Away" is great. - Oh, of course. - I haven't seen "Spirited Away." - You should watch it. - What, you've never seen "Spirited Away"? - No, I just know all the screenshots. - What the fuck? - I've never seen "Princess Mononoke." I think I lied and said I saw it one time on the podcast. I felt pressured to watch it, but I haven't seen it.

I've watched a lot of them actually. - Wow. - Yeah, I mean, you're not a real Studio Ghibli fan, are you Connor? - No. - Yeah. - Well, we've just talked about this before, but Hayao Miyazaki is kind of a dick and it kind of puts me off watching his films. - He's a dick. - Yeah. - Yeah, he's a massive cunt. - He's like, okay, this is like my thing, like my, some people are like, that's fucking based, but I don't know why this pissed me off so much. His son made a movie and he went to the premiere and he walked out halfway through it.

I was like, it's shit. - It is literally a scene he walks out of the cinema, lights a cigarette and he's like, "You still got a long way to go." - Yeah, he's like, "You're still not ready." - That's cool, that's like an anime. - My son's a disappointment. That poor kid had the worst fucking dad of all time. Now he's taking it fucking out on his own kid that he was a shit dad. - I mean, to be fair, it was a shit film. - The film crew was there, he was like, "He's just not ready, he's just not ready."

- Yeah, but to be fair, I did watch the film. - It was a shit film. - It was a shit film. - It was a shit film. - It was actually a shit film. - He was right. - He was right. - You develop shit kids. - There's some things you just gotta lie. And that is just one of the things, I just think no matter how much you, you just gotta be like,

- All right, all right. You know, your son comes back with a drawing and like, it's like, "Hey, hey dad, I made this at school." - Bro, you know he roasted his drawings. - They're like five years old or something. - You know he roasted his drawings. - It's like a shit drawing, all right? Do you lie and say, "This is amazing, son." - Well, if they're five, yeah, but like, you know. - But you encourage them to do more.

- Yeah, yeah, you encourage them to be more. - Nicely, it's gotta be a bit of encouragement with a bit of, oh, you could be better, this could be better, you know? - It's the fact that he didn't even like tell his son it was shit, he just walked out. He just walked out. He is the dad that went out for cigarettes and never came back. - That's so, oh. - Yeah. - That makes me like him more.

- People hear that and they either like him more or they think that's awesome. - It's like Jackie Chan, you know? Have you ever heard about his son's life? - Oh yeah, yeah. - His son did drugs, right? And that's very illegal. - Yeah, he was like Jackie Chan. He was like the ambassador for like anti-drugs. - He's like, "I do not claim my son." - Yeah, yeah, yeah. And his son got caught like doing weed or something in his apartment. And yeah, the more I found out about it, the more I found out, yo,

He just wasn't there for his kid. He was just never home. - He was just a shit dad. - Yeah, he was just a shit dad. - If you're gonna be a bad father, he probably picked the coolest way to just wait to do it. Like the stuff he was doing when he wasn't with his kids. - He took one for humanity. - Like we got sick films. - I was only making the greatest films ever. - A lot of bad dads are just like, I don't know, doing drugs somewhere like this.

- He gave back. - I feel like Jackie Chan, right? - My dad's a bad daddy. He doesn't even know how to do cool fight choreography. If he did that, I'd be like, I forgive you. - Instead of beat you up in style. - Throw a table at me, kick it back. - Or something, you'd be like, cool. - He gets out the nunchucks, you know what I mean? - Do you like Hentai?

- When I was a child, I liked hentai. - Hold on. Hold up, hold up, hold up. - When I was four, I don't know, 16, I was like, "Oh yeah, hentai is cool."

- Not for me anymore. - I missed out on hentai. I feel like I watched like cartoon porn as a teen, but I needed- - Well like fucking Marge Simpson. - Exactly. - Literally Marge Simpson. - It's the weird ads you see on porn. - You watched those?

- I did when I was a kid. Look, it doesn't do it for me anymore, but like- - And the fact that it did it for you at any point is concerning. - I was very connected to these characters, you know? It was like- - It's the character arc, you know? - Yeah, exactly. - No, I remember Kim Possible porn. - Kim Possible, yeah. - Oh, what the fuck? - Yeah. - Wait, are they fucking the mole rat? - Wait, do you consider Kim Possible porn? - That's hentai, right? - That's not hentai. - Why? - I mean- - Why?

- What is hentai? Discuss. - What's the definition? - I mean, I guess it's animated porn, but I guess like hentai is the connotation where it's like Japanese, comes from Japan. - You don't watch Japanese, you just watch cartoon porn. - No, no, I watch actual Japanese hentai.

- How did you find out? How did you discover it? - I remember there was a guy from in our school who would bring hentai to school and the teacher's desk, he would walk up when he was asking her a question, he would stick hentai. - This is Ouija. - This was Ouija. He would stick hentai to the front and then no one knew and then we would just stare at hentai all lesson. - It was so wild. - It was great. And then after that, I was like, wow. - This guy. - This guy, he knows.

- He's good. - He's got the goods. - We've done some episodes where we've reviewed hentai. - Really? - Yeah. - There's some real fucked up ones. - Yeah, I remember like the way I discovered hentai was through fucking LimeWire. I can't remember what I was trying to download, but it was probably some music or something. And you know, instead of getting like Bill Clinton's like we did back in the day, I just discovered this hentai and I was like,

- What is this? Where can I find more of this? - We're just carraging through LimeWire to find the next episode. - Do you remember how you discovered it?

It might have been the same, honestly. I think it was like, yeah, it was like, oh yeah, no, I remember I was at my friend's place and he was trying to like show me like this new Linkin Park song or whatever. And he was like, oh, I'm gonna, I'll try and find it on LimeWire. And then he downloaded it and it was, yeah, an episode of- Fucking LimeWire. Yeah, of whatever hentai it was. And I was just like-

- This is cool. And then I went home and searched it up and that's how I found it. - 'Cause I didn't even know it was called hentai back in the day. This was back when a lot of people didn't know that anime was called anime, hentai was called hentai. It was just weird fucking shit from China.

- It's Chinese cartoons. - Yeah, yeah. And I remember, 'cause not many people talked about anime and hentai back in the day. And I remember I was out with some mates out at a pub and we were getting a few drinks and we were like, "So guys, what's the biggest thing that you've jacked off to that you regret?" And then one of my mate goes,

- Dude, one time I jacked off to anime porn and everyone's like, "Oh, you're fucking sick, mate. What the fuck?" And I'm just here sitting in silence being like, "Yeah, that's weird, man. That's weird." - That's fucking gross. - Oh my God. - So what's next for you guys? What are you guys, you guys planning anything big or just? - Yeah.

I don't know. Well, I mean, we've got the China doco, the dog meat festival coming out hopefully in a month. Yeah. We've got some different boy-boy ideas, some big videos, but it's hard with the travel ones because it's just, it takes a lot of work. Yeah, yeah. High risk and then got some idea to thing videos as well. You can do some, any collaborations with other content creators? Hopefully, hopefully. It's always fun doing that. Jump beer, work under me.

- You're gonna be a salary man. - Yeah, whatever. - It's the best place to pitch. - Bad office workers. Jesus Christ. - You seem terrified. - I am. - We really put you on the spot pitching on the podcast. - You can't say no. - Someone's gotta keep you out of trouble in Japan. Otherwise you'll be like, hey, Shai.

You'll rock up. You'll have like face tattoos and everything. So we've joined the Yakuza. It was really fascinating because we did that. We think they're great people. It's misunderstood. Oh my God. Anything you want to shout out before we wrap it up?

- No, I guess- - Just check out the channel. - Check out the channel. - And boy boy. - And boy boy. - All right, well good. Well, thanks for coming on guys. - Hey, look at all these patrons though. Can you see all of them? They're all on the screen right now. - That's a lot of patrons. - Just pick one that you think is cool. - I know that guy. - Bill, Bill.

- That's Bill. - That's great guy. - That's Bill. - That's all I know. - All right, well, thanks so much for coming on guys. - Yeah. - Joe, you wanna do the traditional- - Hey, if you wanna support the show, then make sure to go to our Patreon, patreon.com/trashtaste. Also follow us on Twitter, send us your memes on the subreddit. And if you hate our face, listen to us on Spotify. And yeah, thanks guys for coming on. - Yeah, thank you very much. - This has been the living definition of fuck around and find out. - Yet to find out, yet to find out. - All right, well, bye guys. - Bye.

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