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LinkedIn, the place to be, to be. I must say, you probably think I am not the fan of your records that I am, you know, because... That's a bit of a surprise. Well, when you became a singer... Wait, back up, back up. Do you remember, do you realize I was... My first TV show was Politically Incorrect that I ever did. I, I, what? That was the first TV show I ever did. Someone talked you on to have me early in my career.

I don't know if you recall, it was either that night or the night after. Late 90s. Had to be late 90s. Late 90s? Yep. What was your first album? My first successful album, well, 1989, but my first successful album, what I'm talking about was 1998, Double Without a Cause. Oh, I have that. It was right around then. But it was either that night or the night after. We ended up going to this fucking thing to see Bill Clinton. We had dinner with Gregory Peck, went out to my limo, we smoked a fucking joint. Who's we? Me and you.

He fucking stoned her. Really? Yeah. We did? We went out to my limo. Wait a second. Smoked a joint. We came back and we had this little dinner with this private thing. Bill Clinton was doing a thing because they printed a picture of me and Rolling Stone with him. And it was a little uproar because it didn't get cleared by the White House. I was like doing something like this. I'd be so disappointed if you weren't. I'm surprised it wasn't this. That was last night.

Boy, the memory is a funny thing, is it not? The way some things that are so trivial stick in your mind. And then you'd think I'd remember Bill Clinton, Kid Rock. Trust me, rock and roll is not... Did you say Gregory Peck? Gregory Peck was at dinner with us. Gregory Peck? Yes. Some other hippie singer girl. Because we were in a little private room. Gregory Peck.

Yeah. With us. Yup. Did the three of us ever go out again after that? No. I'm joking. I haven't seen you since. I don't know. I know. Well, yeah. Your last record is fantastic. Thank you. You really know how to make a record, I feel like. Writing a record is the hard part.

I'll bet. Getting in the studio, it's just what you do after so many years. You fine-tune your craft. You put in the time and work. But writing is, you know, sometimes it comes. You know, you write jokes. You're a writer. I imagine you have a team of people that help a little. Of course. Not so much with stand-up, but yes, the show. Yes, of course. You know, they're brilliant. I love them.

By the way, I'm a big fan of your show. Really? Religiously watch it. Okay. Well, see, you know where my politics lie, obviously, and I know where yours lie, but I don't, and I think, you know, and I found you to be pretty rational on a lot of things, you know, but more importantly is, because I always like to get both sides, at least, it's pretty hard in this day and age because it's all opinions, I always like to get some people who look like they have a conviction. I, you know, things have changed so much on the left that

in the last five to seven years that people say to me often, you know, you're more conservative. I'm not more conservative. They're just crazier on the far left. And I am a comedian. I am not going to pull any punches on who's acting ridiculous. When they act ridiculous, I call them on it. And they do a lot. And that's probably why you enjoy my show. No, no, I enjoyed it even when I couldn't stand you. Like, I was like, this motherfucker. I couldn't stand it.

Fucking beating the shit out of fucking my guy Trump and that. But I still wanted to get both sides. And I do think you're a funny guy. I love the end when you go to new rules. It's always great and poignant. Even if I don't like it, I'm like, well, that's the guy. I don't like anybody. That's their truth. They're speaking what their truth is. Even if I disagree with it, that's all right. Right. No, I've heard you say that in your lyrics. I must tell you, I do love...

Bad Reputation. Thank you. That's one of my favorites on there. I mean, the whole album. Oh, the whole album. That's one of my favorites. Except... We the people? Yes.

The part where you're chanting, let's go, Brandon. I'm not chanting that. Okay, but it's on your record. And I feel like it's... I feel it really undercuts and belies your message, which I think crosses with my message a lot, that we have to talk to... I'm always saying this. We have to talk to each other. We can't go into these bubbles. Yes. Even if you disagree with somebody. Well, let me tell you how optimistic I've been feeling this week. And was, you know, I've...

I don't know if you know this about me, I rarely do interviews these days. I know, and I appreciate it more than I could fucking tell you. And, you know, I did Tucker Carlson, obviously, and that's all I did for this album. I fucked with some people on social media, stirred the pot.

I did his show, and this is my most successful tour. Attendance, grosses, merchandise. Really? To date, yes. That's amazing. Which people, you know, were very scared. You know, my fucking agency or some people would tell you, you know, like, it was politics, man. They're going to fuck up your business. I'm like, I don't give a shit, man. I've saved my money. I'm like...

I can speak openly, you know, blah, blah, blah. But that's your brand. So so last. So I said at the beginning of this, I did this little thing for the doubles tool social media where I taped something about the Elm and Torn. I said, I know I'm polarizing. I'm speaking my fucking mind. And I know I speak for a lot of people who can't, who are scared to lose their jobs. It's that and the other blah, blah, blah. You know all that.

And I said, but after this, I said, you know, one of my, one of the people I look up to so much in life, one of my musical heroes friends, Reverend Run from Run DMC, told me one time, he said, you know what you do best? You bring people together. And I said, after this tour, I want to get back to that because this country needs it. And it just so happens the last two shows are this weekend coming up here in Nevada.

And last night I go to dinner with Randy Gerber, Cindy Crawford, my old friends. And my friends send me these links to TMZ this morning. I'm like, oh shit, I'm on TMZ again. Who the fuck did I piss off now? Whose panties did I get in a bunch? And it was actually a nice piece. It said, you know, Cindy is a registered Democrat. Randy's an independent. You know their best friends are George Clooney and Amal. You know where they lie. And we're all friends. And it just basically said like,

Hey, you can all be friends. It's still different. I'm like, and then I'm coming here. I'm going, we need to get back to this point. Well, of course. Now, here's the backstory to that. TMZ is run by Harvey Levin. Become such a good friend of mine. He's such a great guy. And that show is never mean, really, to celebrities. They love celebrities. They follow them. They like more the negative than positive. No, no, no. If you don't play the game with them, we know that a lot of people are a bad man. No, no, no. Maybe that's how they used to be. That's not what that show is now. It's not. It's very positive. But Harvey...

Harvey and I agree completely on almost everything political. And this message that I have been... He shows my shit all the time because he wants people to see, you know, this message. So does Fox News, by the way. Yes. But this message particularly, he and I would agree on, which is the thing we're saying here now. We have to talk to each other. We can be friends and...

And you can know somebody is a Trumper or whatever. I keep saying it. I've heard you say it a million times. You can hate him. You can't hate everybody who likes him. Exactly. Like, I will never understand why you like this whiny little bitch. You're such a real man, and he's such a little bitch. He's always— But when you're bashing him, that's what I say. I go, I can't believe I'm watching this whiny little bitch. I know.

I'm like, I'll just jump through the TV and fucking smack one on Bill Maher, man. Because, you know, you get to walk that fine line as a comedian like Jon Stewart and so many people where you get to interject your politics into the comedy, which is, you know, a very blurred line, which I love, which is fun. I think everybody should be able to do at any level. Say any fucking word you want. I've heard you say it and I agree and I've been saying it for years. Fucking context matters. You have a record of...

I don't know what one it is on, but it's called I'm a Low Life. Mm-hmm.

Keeping on brand, Bill. Very funny. See, I have to say, there's not a lot of musicians where the record is... I mean, there are people who are funny, but that's their thing. Weird Al Yankovic is funny, but you don't listen to it for the music. But the people who are really funny and the music is good, I mean, Eminem, Joe Walsh.

Joe Walsh, yeah. Is funny and the music is good. I mean, I'm kind of stumped to keep that list going. It's hard. I bet we could keep going on it. Like name some more people who are actually funny. You know who's the opposite, who's really funny and whose music, when she interjects it, is pretty dang good is LaWanda Page. Who's that? Sanford's son. I'm going to stick your face in some dough, make gorilla cookies. Remember her? LaWanda Page and Esther.

I'm Sanford's son. What does that have to do with... A lot of rappers scratch her. Like, 2 Live Crew, they use her shit in hip-hop songs. Oh, but that's different than actually writing... It is, but it was the opposite spectrum. Like, she's a comedian who also did a little bit of music, and the music's not bad when she starts doing her comedy over it. Oh, what's the guy? Just... Pig... Pig... Pigman... God, I just...

It was one of the first rap tunes, but he was a comedian that did it. That song is funny, the low-life one about... Same songwriter with me, by the way. Same guy, John Eddy, that wrote those with me. Is that the one where you're like, the landlord came for the rent? Yeah, the rent is due. I spent it all on a kiss tattoo. I take strippers out to breakfast. You can add that to my checklist. I'm a low-life. Right, and there's something in a buck in your wife or...

I'm going out with your wife. It's like anyone who doesn't laugh at that is an asshole. That's the problem, right? There's too many like stick up their ass. Potentious. Right. I mean, look, I'm not going to lie. Like sometimes you remind me of my dog Chico.

Because you just like... You love Chico. I do love Chico. But Chico will bark at nothing. Like, he will walk into the driveway. Like, I understand a dog barking when there is something to bark at. But he'll just walk out there and be like, Ruff! Ruff! Like, anybody starting some shit? You're going to be sorry because I'm Chico and I'm here. And I feel like your records start like that. I'm going to do what I want.

And don't anybody tell me what not to do. And fuck you and kiss my ass. I'm like, who's attacking you, Bob? Unfortunately, it's crossed over into real life a few times, which I've really tried to get beyond that at 51 years old. That's a funny song. Yeah, I agree. It's great. You know, my fans love it. The 50s song? Oh, the 50s song is funny, yeah. Also because it just shows that you can be self-deprecating.

Absolutely. You know, you admit you're like, I'm going bald. And I shit my pants right here, baby. You know, and the strippers used to kiss me, and now it costs $20. I mean, take it from a comedian. I like to say it's not true, but some of the best comics are true. Well, I mean, but you've got to own your age. You can't... That's a very smart thing to do. I have a funny story when I first...

Realized I was old. Strippers on the bus, toys are, there's a... Something about my granddaughter. I used to... Right, you have a granddaughter. I just had a grandson. I got two grandkids now. Oh, my God. And what do they think of you? Well, seven years old, old enough where she's been to some shows and... Really? She kind of wants to be famous, which I'm like, slow down, honey.

You want to be rich. I've been saying for years, tell me if you agree with any of this. I think the biggest disease on the face of this earth at our current time is fame.

Well, you are not the first person to posit that opinion. Yes. I mean, fame can be the worst drug. When you see people who were celebrities or they were formerly, you know, like they went down the celebrity... Aquamom? Or was it Octomom? Well, Octomom is a little different. Octomom was only ever famous for having eight children at once. Those pictures of her are beyond. Anyway...

But, like, I'm talking about somebody who was a celebrity, but now the calls aren't coming in. So they go on some sort of, like, reality. Yeah. Right. Instead of just retiring and saying, okay, I was on a sitcom for five years. It was good. It's not happening. No, I'll eat bugs. Yeah.

Anything to stay in front of the camera. I think that's what you're talking about. Well, also I see what's going on with our kids and this, that, and the other. And you see what examples are being set out there in social media. I mean, I can't imagine navigating that as a kid. And everybody wants, well, not everybody. There's a big percentage of kids, people that want some notoriety, fame. There want to be somebody. Of course, I did too.

But now there's ways to go about it. Like, we'll just cut your dick off. Like, you know, you're going to fucking, hey, look at me. I'm different. You'd like my latest stand-up special. There's a lot of stuff in there on this theme. Really? Yeah. Check it out. Oh, by the way, I got you a gift. Well, really? A gift? I see you already got some good ones. I didn't know about them. Oh.

Oh, my God. I love it. My pillow guy. That is so awesome. Isn't that the best? Oh, my God. To his credits, when the FBI went after him, I was like, you know what? I'm going to buy some of this guy's shit. You know what? I have Clinton. I see you have Trump. I see you have Clinton. I got that one.

I don't know how I got... I got a Bob Ross, too. I don't know how I got either one of them, but that's true of so many things in this room. I just don't... I can't remember. I just moved one of my homes and finding shit in a level of excess that's kind of embarrassing.

What? Of just having so much shit. But finding cool shit, too, that you never, that you forgot that you might have had or gifts. I have the Chicago coin box, by the way, right there. Oh, you have that possession? I have that Chicago coin box. You know you don't have that hooked up correctly. That goes with a jukebox. You put a jukebox under it and you string them together so when you put a quarter in the jukebox, the curtain opens. You have the same one? Yes, the band starts playing. I collect all that shit. I can make the band play.

But it's not hooked up to a jukebox. Right. That's what it was made for, for a jukebox. So you mean you have too many things? It's just level of access, you know. I was like, well, bring my motorcycles down. And I was like, I probably got, you know, six or seven motorcycles. I was like, oh, you have 17.

You know, the level of clothes that I gave with shoes, and, you know, I donate them or I give them to neighbors, things like this or whatever. And a lot of it's stuff people give you. I was making some great gifts people give you. Absolutely. In two years, you'll be like, who gave me the MyPillow? Oh, no. I'll remember that forever. That's an amazing piece.

I've always wanted a crack addict up here. Successful crack addict. A very successful crack addict. By the way, his fucking sheets are not, I'm a fucking stickler on towels, good bedding, shit like that. And I was like, when the FBI raided him, I'm like, I'm going to order some of his shit. Slippers are pretty decent, but the sheets are not bad. And I'm kind of a fucking spoiled little fucking, when it comes to like good sheets and towels and shit. Whenever I can't get to sleep, I always blame the pillow. And then the next day when I get to sleep, it's like, oh, what happened to the pillow problem?

So I don't think it's the pillow. But you know what? I'm not going to quibble about Trump. Yeah, we could do the whole hour on Trump. You don't like him. I do. Let's move on. Exactly. By the way, I don't like Donald Trump.

I've been saying... I fucking love Donald Trump. That's funny because I've been saying on the show that what you hear a lot from people who are Trumpers is... I don't like him. I like his policy. The biggest misconception, right, is that I like him. But yeah, I agree. But it's also kind of funny too when you hear these arguments and you could make a million of them and I could too and we could do the whole...

you know, show on that. But it's like a funny one I thought of on the way over here. Just let me finish this. One I thought of on the way over here was like, okay, you want me to be accepting and whatever of like a dude dressing up like a girl, wanting to use the girl's bathroom, cutting his dick off, this, that, and the other. But you got a problem.

which has not proven to be true, but you got a problem with a guy who might have pissed on a hooker in Russia. Right. Come on. Well, I mean, Bob, come on, that's anecdotal. But look, I don't want to, again, we could talk about this. You don't want to and I don't want to. So let's try to, since we have no dissenting votes on this issue, agree that what heals America more than anything is two people

who have the acumen to figure out what they are not going to convince the other of or agree on, and so leave it alone, right? Absolutely. That's the whole thing. Well, I would say amen. Okay. Are you religious? I am a little religious, yes. Oh. I mean, you do mention God. I mean, you have an album. I have a relationship with God, I believe, yeah. Right. I lit a candle last night for Loretta Lynn. Oh.

My dear friend who just passed. What a wonderful American. Oh, really? A dear friend? We got married in a mock wedding. I thought that was Pam Anderson. We got married four times.

Because I've always said, I think you'll agree, getting married is a blast. Have you ever been married? No. Right. Okay. Getting married is a fucking ball. It was so fun. I did it four times. South of France, Beverly Hills. Being married sucks. Well, see, you got to give me a little props on that. I was able to. But what I always loved about you, I must say, even when I didn't like your politics, was that you acted like every guy...

Like every average guy, if they became a rock star, would act without apology, you know, and also without like so many times you see celebrities do these. What I think is like really self-sabotaging kind of behavior where like, wow, you're young and every girl wants you and you get married.

You know, it's just dumb. And you, like... I didn't have that problem. No. You were like, no. And if I do get married, I'm going to marry the girl that every guy wants to fuck more than anybody else. I wanted to ride the Ferris wheel, man. Everybody wants to ride the Ferris wheel.

But were you really in love with her? Yeah. Oh, you were? Yeah. Really? Yep. So it was real. Oh, yeah. I'm from fucking Romeo, Michigan. Sure, I got to, you know, at that point I had seen a little more of the world, you know, and it wasn't like I was sheltered. I was raised very middle, upper class, like, you know, great family, this, that, and the other. So it wasn't like I was, you know, some sheltered kid, this, that, and the other. But, you know, I went into it how I was raised. My parents were still together after 50-some years of marriage. Like, you know, it was, yeah. But you, but...

If we're not going to talk about Trump, we're not going to dive down the Pam rabbit hole either. No, I'm not saying that. But...

You have that song that, like, I thought you left home when you were 15 or something. Oh, I did. And then... I did. Then I went to the only place I could go and stay was with my friends in the hood. I couldn't go stay with my middle class friends. They're like, no, I'm taking you home to your parents. My friends in the hood were like, you can crash here. For such a badass, so many of your songs are actually...

Very romantic and sentimental. I mean, they're really heart-tugging. That one where the chick with the jeans and the rosary. Blue jeans and a rosary. My guitar player wrote that, Marlon. That is a very... Requested a lot by the females. I'm sure it is, you know, as I'm sure the Sheryl Crow ones are. Mm-hmm. You know. And there's another... I wrote that.

Which one? Collide? I wrote Collide, too. Well, with my guitar player, I wrote Collide, but I wrote Picture. That was one of the few songs I wrote by my... You know, a lot of times, I'm not somebody that likes to be alone and write. I do, but I like to get together and finish with somebody. I'm a people person. I like people around. It's always better to have a partner. Yeah, it just gets lonely. Lennon and McCartney. You need somebody who can say to you, I think we can do better there. But I must say, you have a way of...

evoking like a nostalgia for like when life was. Those are my favorite songs. Me too. I mean. You know, like little things, you know. The Eagles were so great at it. One of the best. Well, you know what? It's funny you mentioned the Eagles because like I think of you as, I know you're from Detroit, but then you like have this big giant boner for the South. Huge. Yeah.

Huge boner, Bill. It's a tremendous boner. It's huge. I love the South. But it reminds me of the Midwest, too. Again, not to keep harping on this theme, but that's when we're best, when the two parts of the country who you wouldn't think get along, get along. And what other giant band, one of the greatest of all time, is also a product of Detroit and the South?

Well, they all are. No. Well, everybody came to the- Specifically. The rock band? The Eagles.

Glenn Frey is from Detroit. Glenn Frey went to school with Bob Seger. Okay, right. Punch Andrews, my former manager. He's from Detroit. Yes. I'm not aware. And Don Henley is... Don Henley's from Texas. Is Texas. Yeah. That combination is what I'm saying. Oh, absolutely. Works. It works, you know... But you know how all that happened from Chicago to Detroit was when, you know, the Industrial Revolution when...

You know, the plants, Henry Ford did all that. Everybody came from the South, and some stopped in Chicago. That's where we got the real blues scene going on. And then the rest came to Detroit, you know, which we got Motown, all that great John Lee Hooker soul music, all that stuff. It was all Southern. It's roots, which is all, you really want to go back and you start getting into country. It's Celtic, it's this, blah, blah, blah. You could trace everything back to as far as... Celtic? Yeah. What? I did a Celtic hip-hop song. I'm bad reputation. I'm Celtic. Really? More? More?

Mar is a very high. Actually Jewish. By the way, I lit the candle last night because my friend was saying it was Jewish. He said he's going to light one for his dad for Yom Kippur. Oh, yeah. I don't know shit about that, but I was like, that sounds like a cool thing. So I lit one, said a little prayer. I felt good. Well. Made me feel good. Congratulations. Makes you feel good. Welcome to Judaism, Bob. Well.

I'm the Loma. Oh, I'm sorry. We're full. That's funny. Sorry, you can't come in here with a hat. Well, not that kind of hat.

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Hi, it's me, Bill, the guy from the podcast you're currently watching. Just want to let you know that I will be performing at the Hulu Theater at Madison Square Garden in New York, November 12th. Go to NewYorkComedyFestival.com for tickets. That's NYComedyFestival.com for tickets. Let me see what you got. Yeah, take a hit on that one. Is this like wheelchair weed? It's wheelchair. You know, after your...

Pretty smooth. Yes. I don't really smoke. My brother smokes a lot. Okay. Well, it has fenced it all in. He doesn't have a job either. Who? My brother. Who's your brother? Billy Ritchie. Oh. Well, what if he doesn't have a job? He smokes weed. He doesn't have a job. Oh. Now I'm going to cough. Does that bother you? What's that? Yeah.

Why? Because he's super smart. He's like college educated, a history buff. He's got one leg, which was a little tough to deal with that he lost when he was very young. Seven years old, we were riding on a tractor. He fell off.

Got brush augs. But still, it's like he can fucking ski with poles. He played football. He could do everything. He's so smart. Well, look, sounds like this guy's having a really rough time, so I'm not the kind who wants to pile on and make it worse. But Oscar Pistorius, okay, so he could be a track star. He just doesn't want to.

He likes weed. Remember Oscar Pastore? Oh, yeah. Didn't he have some trouble in South Africa? Some trouble? He shot his girlfriend in the bathroom. Oscar Pastore, how's he doing? You know, that's a good question. Where are they now?

I don't know, but that was brutal. Yeah, that was. I mean. There's a lot of brutal shit, man. God. Well, I have Trace Adkins on my show. Love Trace. Old friend. He sang on some of my records with me. Really? Yeah. He did a really low vocal on Rock Bottom Blues, the record I did with Rick Rubin years ago.

You can hardly hear him, but he's the guy going, Oh, Born Free? No, no. Yeah, that album. The song's on that album. That's a great album. He's so low in there. All you hear is, Oh, da, da, da.

But again, you're so Chico. Like, I'm born free. It's like, yes, we know. Fuck, yeah. Well, you know what I love to do, right? It's like, I know the people that love. No one likes Kid Rock. I think we can get it right. What? You either love him or you fucking hate him. People like Dave Grohl. Ah, Dave. Ah, you know. They were fucking. We're not in the middle. So what I do, like, I actually brought my hat just to piss people off. Like, that don't like me.

It's like, you know, just sitting here with my fucking Kid Rock hat on. You're already Kid Rock. Right, but people don't. Talk about a hat on a hat. I mean. I just like to fuck with people that don't like me. I'd wear this hat. Try it on. Well, not now, but I mean, we're inside. But I would wear this.

To like a... Anywhere. To a PETA event? To any fucking place I want. You know what? Will you wear it to a PETA event? Why? I just think it'd be great. I used to go... I went to some PETA events, which I don't agree with at all. I was friends with Dan Matthews and shit. I certainly wouldn't wear it to a PETA event. And actually, there's a PETA event coming up, and I won't be wearing this. That would just be unnecessarily...

provocative to an organization that I adore. I can give you my full-length mink to go with it. And, you know, let's not get on that subject either. The fact that I can forgive you... Trying to start your engine. The fact that I can forgive you about murdering animals in the woods, what a great hobby. We eat them. It's conservation. We can talk about that. It's way more than the Trump thing. I can give you some insight on that about conservation and how... I've heard it all. Okay. You know, some of it is just...

You're right. There's always a lot of other truth on the other side that doesn't get heard in our bubbles. But in general, it's also for whatever reason, like I've never had kids. I don't like kids. I love animals. So emotionally, I'll admit that. I don't like kids, you asshole. There's some things you might not want to be so honest about. And I really hate babies.

I mean, kids I can sort of deal with a little for a few minutes. But, well, people raise their kids wrong. You know, I mean, I would be a very bad parent right now because I would fight. We would be very aligned on this, I think, on a lot of this. I would be a very bad parent because they would be doing things in the school that I didn't think was appropriate.

Just not from either side or point of view, just like the subject itself. There are five. Can we just do blocks and the sky is blue before we get to drag queens? You know, it's like... There's levels of sophistication that are just...

Bill, Bill, welcome to the Republican Party. You know, first of all, you must not watch my show. I watch your show every week. I have the quote from the Iranian lady this week that I thought was spot on about the headdress. Okay, but I've been talking about this stuff for years. You don't have to welcome me. And by the way, I don't want to be in the Republican Party at all. Oh, I don't.

I can make some calls. Okay, that's the difference. Oh, I know the invite is there. I don't want it. Pick another kid for your team. Okay. And I can tell you why, but again, let's not get to the places where let's go. You know, first of all... We can have some fun with it, though. I can't...

We can have some fun. Enjoy fighting with somebody who is such a good entertainer. I mean, this world is, yes, full of right and wrong and blah, blah, blah. At the end of the day, you know, if you're not religious, which I'm not, it's all about killing time until you die. Be as good a person as you can. I agree. And then kill time until you die. I agree. Okay. So, you know...

Killing time involves all the things that are just fun. Golf. I hate golf. I know, but it kills time. If I died, I would really miss my music collection.

I don't think you're the only one in that space. Yeah. That'd probably be like top five on Family Feud. Anybody who's entertained me. And songs are unbelievable because unlike comedy, which is very perishable, they're just good forever. Picture is good forever. I'm a comedy groupie.

I'm a fucking comedy groupie. I hang out at Zany's in Nashville. I'm like backstage. You live in Nashville? Yeah. Oh, that's a funny song. Were you shit on Nashville? Oh, yeah. Well, I didn't write that. Kid Ward Gunther wrote that. I did write some to it, but he kind of had that line. And everyone's scared of Nashville. There's a line out the door of underage whores. And the bouncer just lets them all by. What a great way to start a song. That is...

Who was that? Who wrote that? It's a kid named War Gunther. He does this thing in Nashville called Whiskey Jam, which is hugely popular. Why did I think you live in Alabama? I have a farm in Alabama, a hunting farm. I remember seeing an article, you know, a spread on you in some, you know, phony baloney magazine or something about your life and, you know, probably. Rolling Stone. They covered me down there years ago. Yeah. So. I'm in Florida, Alabama, Michigan in the summer in Nashville.

Jesus Christ. Just right up and down. Nothing in California? Just follow the sun. No, I'm the only idiot that ever lost money on a house in Malibu. What do you mean? I sold my house in Malibu. The shit show housed it. But why did you have a Malibu house? She was hot. Really? Is that really the truth? Yeah. I got to have this house. It's so awesome. My goodness. What is it? $12 million? Let's buy it. That's what I mean. You don't...

like, put on airs. You know, you act like the guy, every guy dreams of having what is available to a rock star. And then you're like, well, yeah, if I'm going to be given these privileges, I'm going to use them. If you're going to be a bear, be a grizzly. Yeah.

I agree. Yeah. You know, the whole key that I'm most proud of there is I don't feel, you know, there's always sometimes when someone's hurt, maybe you did something wrong, but I've never mistreated people. You get away with murder if you're just fucking nice about it. You know, when you're younger and you're in this fucking crazy world of drugs and booze and women and all this stuff, you're like...

Just don't be a fucking dickhead. Well, you are a dickhead, but when you are, I applaud you because you're trolling people who deserve to be trolled. You are twisting the tail of the oversensitive. Oh, yes, I do that well. I do do that. And that's when I love you the most. It's like, even if I don't agree with your political point of view, it's like, but you, oversensitive assholes who can't take a joke, who don't understand

Nuance, that whole thing. Context. And just like, you know, just laugh at life. How did that generation that came after us become such stick up their ass? Because of timeouts and participation. Yeah, but like it should be that the older people have the stick up their ass. That's the way it was when I was a kid. And then it reversed.

And it's the kids. I hadn't thought about it that way. Well, yes. Who are the woke? Yeah, well. They're not your age. Your age is Gen Z. I mean, Gen X. Yeah. That's the last sane generation. I agree. And you notice they never get involved in the generational wars. Like millennials always go after my people, the boomers. Somehow your generation just passes in between. Because what?

I don't know. I'm trying to process that. I don't know if I possess it. Do you ever hear about Gen X? I don't. I'm not good with numbers. Okay. Gen X is what ages? You. I'm 51. You.

It's you. So 51. You're Gen X. But it usually goes like 10 years or something. Ben Stiller did the Gen X movie in 1994 called Reality Bites. Okay. That's Gen X. They came after the baby boomers, but they weren't the millennials. So they hadn't become completely crazy. Okay, I got it. And I feel like you Gen Xers are more aligned with boomers.

Because you were alive. Especially as we've gotten older. You were alive before the world went mad and went to the phone. The phone is the portal to all evil. Amen. I agree a thousand percent. Yeah. No, it's just true. I agree a thousand percent. My life was so good to that fucking camera on a phone. Oh, that's what you have against it? I mean, that's my personal gripe.

But, I mean, you have, well, your kids are grown now, right? Yeah, my son's 29. Okay. So they're not like teenagers who are going to be corrupted by the phone. But many. Oh, I have nieces. Nieces. They're 14. 14. 14 and 12 or something. Right. Well, I mean, it just, in every possible way, it made people stupider, greedier, faker, more

It's great for fakes. It makes you a fucking fake. Yep. The phone makes you a fucking fake. You can fake things, ghosting people. You know, like they just, these kids, they don't want to. Fucking trolls. What? They're trolls.

They call them trolls. People are saying they're ghosting people. They call them trolls on the internet. They're just trolling people. No, I mean in your personal life when people ghost you. What's that mean? It means... Well, Grandpa... This might be a generation. Please explain to Papa. Here's the thing. Ghosting is when somebody just doesn't respond. To? Oh, no, I'm good. Okay.

Those scenes when somebody doesn't respond. Like when you're texting back and forth. Somebody just like, ices you, we call it. Yes, absolutely. Yes, this is a common thing. People will just, you know, and stop responding and I can sometimes change their information, I guess, if you're a pest. But yeah, no explanation. Just, well, that kind of stuff I feel like is psychologically very damaging.

I can't imagine social media shit with kids trying to navigate those wires. And maybe I'm just old. Like, I don't like Elvis shaking his hips. Sometimes when I say shit, I'm like, am I that guy now? I don't feel like it. That is a very interesting question because it is a combination. You can't deny, yes, there is some...

level of us being unable to quite get something that is so native to younger people like social media and computers, which they grew up with. And I certainly didn't grow up with a computer. I didn't either. But there's also objectively, I mean, there's, you know, my truth and your truth is also the truth, you know, and sometimes... I don't know anything else. Yeah. And...

It's just true that people used to read more. What a great name for a rapper, The Truth. Hasn't it been done? I don't know any. There's no rapper named The Truth? Not that I know of. Wow. Hey, before this runs, go to godaddy.thetruth.com. I'm sure somebody has that. Somebody must. Somebody's got that. I would bet money on that. Well, what's in Trump's social media...

What is it called? Truth Social. Oh, Truth Social. No, who came up with the best one you should have called it? It was a celebrity. I thought it was a left-wing person or something, but somebody said they should have called it Trumpet. So I thought it was pretty creative. Much better, because Truth Social, well, let's not get off on Trump. See, it's like a relationship.

Like a, you know, a marriage. Like, you wouldn't fight... Two things you know nothing about. Educate me, Bill. Well, I certainly know about relationships. I've had many relationships. That's how I got this Kid Rock hat. No, um...

But in a relationship, you learn early on, well, maybe not early on because people are on their best behavior early on, but at a certain point, you learn what other people's buttons are, right? What you're not going to agree on, you know, what not to bring up unless you want to have a fucking fight. Or not have sex. Right. You say tomato, I say fuck off. Right.

Right, right guys. I agree with but not everybody is a rock star who if the person who is Embargoing their sex

does that, they can't go somewhere else like you could. Yes, they can. Girls can always go somewhere else. Girls can. Always. Not guys. If I wasn't Kid Rock, I couldn't. For the love of God, I'd look like Brad Armpit. Well, I'm glad you've argued your way right around to my point. That's what I'm saying, is that you...

if you're being embargoed, can do something about it. It also turns you into a big, giant asshole. What does? The next best thing. My way or the highway. You know, that type of thing turns you into a giant asshole. Absolutely. Right.

Why? Are you talking for a friend? Asking for a friend. Is that correct or not? Do you know a guy who did that? I think we've all been that person at certain times in our life. Right. And some of us can step back and be like, yeah, I don't want to be that person. Yeah, but. And other people don't know what's going on until somebody fucking punches them in the face. Sometimes it's, hey, man, you're being a fucking asshole. Look.

In a relationship. I also— With the opposite sex. When I was like, you know, earlier and very much earlier in life, you know, when I was not doing very well and didn't know very much about women or how to get them or keep them or please them, you know, stuff like that, little things, you know. I remember like if I broke up with a girlfriend or I was contemplating because I really wasn't someone who was well-suited for me,

The idea in my head was, will I ever have another girlfriend? Which is a terrible thought. It was like, maybe... You're an honest man, Bill. What? You're an honest man. Right. And, you know, I mean... I wonder if you'd still be this honest if you hadn't have been successful. No, it would be... I'd probably put a bullet past my tongue. But, you know, but lots of people, I think, I certainly know that feeling, like...

When you're in a relationship and it's like, maybe it's better because you have to learn to just accept things about the other person. You can't walk out because that's not a good alternative. Or, you know, you just legitimately love them and want to. But there's no two people, I think, who were ever married, or very few, who don't have things about each other that they have just learned to go, you know what? It's everything in life, isn't it?

Probably. You mean accepting like that? Accepting. There's certain things, like I start with death. I'm like, I will never get into a battle or a fight that I can't win. I cannot win that fight. So I'm going to try to do it as gracefully, as cool, as laid back as I can. And I start there, and then I just keep going down.

Well, not going down. Rising above. Rising above. You're stoned, and my memory has been, I shot, rock and roll has not been kind to it. This is like, do we need a fucking... You know, I always wonder about the ears.

No, because we use those in-ears now, they call them. So your hearing is fine? Yeah. But so many years? I've lost a tiny bit of the top, but yeah, overall. So many years of playing loud. I mean, when you go to a concert, it's loud. It's always loud. We don't hear that. You don't hear that because of what's in your ear? Yeah, they're like mini headphones, really high-tech ones. And they've had those since you started? No. So I did the early years with the big monitors and shit.

But these people have, you know, I know a lot of them. You do too. It's the older generation of rock and rollers, man, are out there with, you know, like Bob Seger still doesn't use any ears. He's got like five monitors in a circle around him just blaring. He's your big hero, right? Yes. Yep. Because Detroit and because just the kind of guy he is? Yes, not only that, but just obviously to start with his music. I'm a fan before anything. Oh, yeah, of course. My parents were like, you know.

There was a picture in my house of Jesus and Bob Seger and Henry Ford, basically. Henry Ford? Yeah, I mean, I was a Ford guy. Yeah, I mean, I'm sure Henry Ford is one of those guys like Columbus. I know where you're going to go with this. Well, I'm just saying I have made a lot of comedy, and it's something the woke don't like about me, making the point that

We can't judge people in the past by the standards of the present. I loved your bit on that when you took it all back. Oh, good. That was just recently. Yes. Oh, I'm glad you did see that. And you know what? They came after me so bad for being a racist. All I did was give the facts about slavery.

I know. That it was not something that Americans invented in 16... You traced it back to the Irish. You kept going. Everybody did it. It was a human thing. It's a human thing. Unfortunately, humans are schmucks. And it's like, if I can make... One person gets an earring, everyone gets an earring. Right.

But I know that's a big, I mean, I hear that in your records and I've heard, that is a big bugbear with you. And I guess we have that somewhat in common is that I don't think people understand that if you're not a racist, and again, there's been such mission creep on the word racist, which, you know, to me always meant somebody who doesn't like black people and doesn't want them to have equality. Well, I don't think that's us.

Of course, there's more complications than that to racism in America, but just that word. Fuck racism. I don't think people understand that when you're not a racist, to be called that is a giant insult. I don't give a fuck. They can call me whatever the fuck they want. Right. Fuck you. Right. That's your brand. That's like your McEnroe's, you can't be serious. I'm playing Mac tomorrow in pickleball. Yours is fuck you.

before anyone even attacks you, just like Chico. Fuck you! Exactly. And yet your life must be so good. I got the greatest bubble on earth.

What do you mean? Bubble? Well, like Tucker was actually saying, he's like, you created your own world here. What's your own world? It's just my home spaces, my friends. Oh, right. Sure, of course. I'm the one that's the fucking weird punk rock kid that I'm not into. It's like I'm anti what everybody loves in my business.

I'm the fucking outcast. Absolutely you are. Yes. Like, it's not, I'm not trying to be. Oh, no, no. But you'd be, you'd be absolutely shocked at my fans. Like, they're, and I'll just give you a quick example. We did these cruises for 10 years. It was a big deal. Yeah.

And these two gay kids infiltrated the cruise. You can Google this. People listening can Google this, and there's an article on it. A cruise? Yeah, I did 10 of them. They pay millions of dollars. You take all your friends and favorite bands and have a ball. The only people that are scared of them, because we have a comedian every year, is comedians, because they think their career's over if they go on a cruise. I go, yeah, it's not that type of cruise. It's not the Disney cruise. Right. But whatever. Okay. What the fuck was I talking about?

God damn you. It's contagious. I knew a comedian who did his show on a cruise, and it was for older people. And it was way too dirty. I forget what he said, but he offended everybody. And they helicoptered him off the ship. That's a bad day as a comedian. They have jails on the ship.

They have holding cells. Yeah, a brig. Well, you have to. What if someone, you know what happens? So these gay kids, I'm sorry, these gay kids come on this cruise, right? Yeah.

And they fucking, they're coming there like, we wanted to go to Trump country and see what it was like. And they're going to write this piece of article for some shit magazine nobody reads. But their article's like, fucking like, we wanted to go on this cruise and fucking get in Trump land and fucking blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. The whole article's like, we had the greatest times of our life. These are the greatest people on earth. These motherfuckers are just hardworking. You can call them rednecks, whatever. Some of them work for military, you know, work for the Pentagon. Some of them are principals at schools. Right.

Some are strippers, like whatever. These people just love to have a good time. They work hard to spend their money. It's a fucking American dream. I remember reading some interview with you, and you said, I'd rather have a stripper than a model. And I thought, yes.

Somebody get me Kid Rock's number. No, but I agreed with what you were saying. Not that we can stereotype people, but models, you know, a little high strung usually. It's a string bean in high heels. Well, it's not that they're physically beautiful, but it seems to be more like anxiety and, you know,

You know, I don't know. I think we call it drama. Yeah.

Yeah, that too. I mean, it's like, it must be. I don't know because Cindy Crawford is one of the most elegant, beautiful, kind, fun, rock and roll women I've ever met. But now she's what, 60? Okay, people change over. I mean, you want to become that when you're 60. Yeah, I don't know if she. She don't look like she's 60. Okay, I'm sure she does. I'm staying with my Malibu right now. I see her all times of the day. She does not look like she's 60. Okay, calm down. You're getting a little half chubby there.

No, no, no, no, no. No, I understand. Okay. She's like my sister. Okay, well-established, Cindy Crawford, hot mama. I didn't say that. I'm just saying. Fucking media people, see? I'm just saying that, you know, it must be when you're that beautiful and people, it's almost freakish. It's tough, trust me. How people...

I get it. He's like, stop doing jokes. You're not a comedian. Oh, no, I'm not. I'm always. You have very funny songs that are also good songs. You also, I must say. The best at evoking that kind of time of life that was carefree.

I can imagine cell phones nowadays having fun rock and roll moments, crazy shit happening. Nobody's getting hurt, by the way. I wouldn't let a girl on the tour bus if she had a boyfriend. One of those things like, they're all excited in the moment. Of course, why would you? My boyfriend said it was cool. I'm like, your boyfriend's here? No. You either leave or tell him to come on the bus.

Like, I never wanted to be in any of those fucking cities. I didn't want to be a fucking douchebag because, fucking trust me, if I wasn't fucking who I am, people could steal my girlfriend all day long. You think? No, probably not. Well, that was really hard to break you down on that one, huh? Well, this last article I read about you, you were living in Alabama, or at least they were on there for the Rolling Stone one. Yep. And you were with a woman. Yeah.

I remember there was a... We're still together. You're still together? 15 years. Wow. Yep. Not married, but... She likes to lay low and not be part of this bullshit, and she's smart for it. Yeah. And that was her decision. Wow. Not married, but together. Engaged. Engaged? Yep. Oh. So you're going to have to... Engage Bill is a thing before... Oh, you would know, wouldn't you? So this will be four marriages? Yes.

It'll be five. It'll be five. Before we're to the same chick. They were. What? I just told you a few minutes ago, you stoned her. Like I said, I married Pam four times. I married her in the south of France, Beverly Hills, Nashville, and Detroit. I thought you were referring to four different women. No. No.

So you like this one? Yeah. I love this one. Oh. Well, how does your new wife feel about that? That can't be a good harbinger. Everybody's friends, man. Really? No. What do you mean new wife? New fiance? New fiance. What does she feel about what? The woman you married four times. She's like, well done.

But wouldn't that be something looming over her head? Like, if this guy's married this one woman. No, she ain't that type of chick at all. She's into her horses, chickens, hunting. She's beautiful. Like, can cook. Like, just loves the platonic relationship. That's another funny song you have about the breakup where it's like, and she's like half as old. Oh, she's half your age and twice as hot. Twice as hot. That was a true one. That's mean.

But, you know, since we don't know who the person is. Well, I was very upset at the time, trust me. It was very heartbroken. Since we don't know who the person is, it's, you know. Everybody knows who the person was. That's Pam. Oh. I wrote that right after that when I got with this. I hooked up with this supermodel after. Beautiful Danish girl. We were an item. And she's a lovely girl. And I was like.

Man, you don't go fucking with a songwriter. Well, that, yes. Someone who writes words for a living. Like, don't get into a battle of wits with a comedian. Well, that adds a whole new shade. People that write words every day for a living, don't fuck with them. That adds a whole new shade to that. Well, nothing like getting in from the horse's mouth. It's old news, Bill. Really? Yeah, yeah. I mean, in my world.

Right. I'm sure you're right. I'm sure I just, because I'm such an intellectual. No, I'm just talking to my world, my people that enjoy my music, what I do, like that little circle. No, I bet you that was widely known among lots of Americans. But you know what? I can't be aware of everything. I have a lot. I've got a cover every week. I couldn't cover your Revenge song. I love that song. It's funny. Why did it never occur to me? It's so obvious now.

Because I guess I don't think of Pam Anderson as old. It's not a revenge song. In this day and age, it was called a healing song. Is that what you tell yourself, Bob? In this day and age, I do. I'm on a journey. I can't go on my tour. I have to focus on my mental illness. It's like, somebody punch this kid in the fucking face. Tell him he's rich, he's good looking. Fucking go. You do not mind twisting that tail, do you? No, not at all. I don't give a shit. Right.

Right. It's not a no-brainer. Abortion. Let the woman fucking choose and deal with God or the people. I told Republicans a long time ago, get your fucking goddamn hand out of that cookie jar. Right. I don't agree with it all. You want to hear a weird one? So I just had the prime minister's right-hand guy from Turkey

Come to my house in Nashville. The prime minister of? Turkey. Turkey. Or Hungary. I'm sorry, Hungary. Hungary. I'm thinking of Armin Erdogan. Orbin. Hungary, yes.

Orbit's right-hand guy, this top political advisor came to my house in Nashville. And we were talking. He wanted to meet me. Tucker did a thing with him in Hungary, some right-wing thing or something. And they were big fans of me. He happened to be in the States, blah, blah, blah. So he come by for lunch. I go, because this is fucking weird and I'm into it. The prime minister's right-hand guy from Hungary wants to have lunch with you. I'm like, yep.

We say, like, Saturday Night Live wants you to come. I'm like, no, I'm busy. So he comes over, but he says this about abortion. He goes, we just passed law. And you know they're pretty right-wing over there. You know the movement. I know you're educated. Let me finish. Let me finish. Let me finish. I do. He said, we have more since Orban, you know, that you can get elected every four years there forever. And he's been, like, 12 years now. But he's like, since he's coming, like, the family structure is stronger. We do allow abortion, but we just passed the law, which this is pretty weird both ways. He goes...

Before you have the abortion, the mother must hear the baby's heartbeat. And I was like, creepy and great. You know, my mind went so many different directions because I thought, man, that's... Because if your mind's made up, you're going to do that. That's like tormenting someone. But at the same time, that could be a fucking child walking on God's fucking earth right now. It's a squishy issue. I've always...

I personally was supposed to be aborted.

I had a friend, the same thing. His mother told him. It's not really informed. I'm certainly pro-choice. I'm actually for postnatal abortion. I would go to 10 years old. Keep these kids in line. If you can abort your kid at six months, you should be given until 10 years old. There are so many kids I would like to. When I just see them for a minute, I'd like to abort them. But no, I believe in abortion up until the third trimester of high school. Yeah.

That's fucking funny. Yeah. Are these jokes? I got to come see you play. You'll like this special. You'll like it. You're playing Detroit coming up, I suppose. Yes! You know what? That's so funny. I'm in Detroit Saturday night. I'm in fucking Laughlin, Nevada. Wow. That's amazing. You say you're selling more tickets than ever.

That's true. Ever. And I didn't know either. Good for you. Because you're getting this polarizing thing, and I'm this polarizing figure. And yes, I speak my mind. They know where my politics are. Love Trump. Blah, blah, blah. Start there. And then I put a little of that in my music. I did one interview. And everybody was scared on all sides because we had a deal worked out with Live Nation where it was a lot of money tonight. And I was eventually at the end. I said, nope.

I'll take the back end. I'll take the tickets. I'll gamble on myself. Good for you. And I've done it my whole career. And thank good Lord, I've been blessed and lucky and all those things, whatever you want to call it. And boom, biggest tour of my career. Financially, monetarily, you know, with attendance. We've been shattering like Bruce Springsteen, Elton John attendance records in places like Houston and things like, which I'm. Yeah, it's just a similar, you know. And no one knows about it outside of my world.

Because I'm not Ed Sheeran making a billion dollars. Also because the liberal media would never report it. Not the good stuff, no. Well, they would never report something. Well, first they would never. Kid Rock's winning again. Right. New York Times.

Ken Rock wins again. Yeah. That's, that's not something you're not going to see. God, I should sell that t-shirt. Which is why I always say there's one thing. I mean, every critic deserves their opinion. That's why they're a critic, but there's such a thing as being unprofessional, which is when you don't report what's, you know, what is relevant. Simple investigative journalism. Yeah. A couple of calls. I've seen that. Have you witnessed it more times? I've witnessed it a ton. My, my, uh,

Long time excellent ratings are also a giant secret. But let us not complain about our charmed lives. But I think it's fantastic. You can't complain. You're single. You've never been married. You make fuck tons of money for a long fucking time. Right. You're a little piece of a fucking baseball team. You've got nine houses on your fucking property. I certainly don't do that. Like how are you not winning? I certainly don't do that. Smoke a lot of weed?

That's a big thing with you. I remember, it's funny, you remember the night with Gregory Peck. I remember sitting with you, I think, at the Oscar party, like a Vanity Fair Oscar party. I went to a couple of those. Yes, I think that, okay. And I remember you saying that same thing about like, I'm winning. And it, of course, is a theme that comes up. Charlie Sheen stole it from me. I love that.

Well, he didn't do it too well. But I do love that sentiment in your 50s song about, but your mom still thinks I'm cool. I mean, it's very funny. It's self-deprecating. The part that always makes me choke up a little bit, believe it or not, in that funny-ass song is,

As I still rock like a chair, middle finger in the air with my granddaughter on my knee. Yeah. And Uncle Cracker wrote that. He wrote that line. I was like, Uncle Cracker. I remember that guy. What was that? Your partner? He's my best friend. Still is. Still is your best friend. We came up together. He used to buy like, he had a job and his dad had a gas station. So when I was trying to do my shit in the hood and fucking blah, blah, blah. Yeah.

Trying to make records, he would save the money or ask his parents to give us a loan to buy a drum machine or something. He would just buy the cheeseburgers and cigarettes. We were in my studio in my apartment with two young black children with a microphone hanging from the shower. Two young black children? Yeah, my son's got a brother and a sister from his mother.

from a black man. And so I got some of the herbs mixed. So at one point when he was very young, we were all together. So how can they say you're a racist? And you put T.I. on one of your songs. Mary J. Blige was on that song. I love it. One of my favorites.

Shit, I get to sing with fucking Aretha Franklin several times, Stevie Wonder. I'm sure the people you work with don't think that. I mean, they know because they know you. Yes. And that's how you can go out to dinner with fucking George Clooney or people who, you know...

Now, Sean Penn was my neighbor forever. Those were the greatest conversations on earth. Yeah. Me and him late night, the people who sat there and witnessed us fucking have a few cocktails and, you know, fucking cut it up. I mean, I know Sean very well. And looking at you here, it's like I realized, yes, you two are kind of doppelgangers almost. You know? We had a blast with it. Oh, of course. Yeah. No, I think...

Well, what do you think's going to happen? I mean, do you think this country is going to have like a civil war? No, no, I think the pendulum always swings. I look at music like when it's positive hip-hop goes into like hardcore hip-hop and then it comes back.

And with so many things in life, like are we in the 70s again, you know, and there was protests and this, blah, blah, blah. I know it was a different thing, and you can never relate the past really to the future. You can try not to repeat it, but you can't line it up, you know. You can't fit a square peg through a round hole. Right. And so, no, because I got some friends, you know, proud boys on down who are like really rational people, and then some are like, let's fucking go. Proud boys are? Let's go to fucking war.

They're both in the Proud Boys, you're saying? What's that? You're saying some of them are rational people and some of them want to go to war?

Yeah, which I don't know if it's irrational or not. And I know one. But we don't want to go to war. Of course not. Okay, so... That was Donald Trump's greatest feat. He kept us out of war. Uh-oh. Uh-oh, shots fired. I mean, yeah, we didn't have a war overseas. It's true. I mean, and great. I mean, I'll give him credit for that. Look, I gave him credit big time for moving the... Employment was an all-time high. Minorities were working more than ever. Okay, moving the...

Some of that is... The border was under control. I'm not the guy... I'm not straw man here. I'm not the guy who's ever going to argue that... or be that person... I think it's good that Biden got fucking drug prices negotiated with fucking... Great. See, that's what we... Right. Let's just not instinctively hate somebody because of who they are and what team they're on. I was going to say I loved it when Trump moved the

in Israel to Jerusalem. I thought that was a great thing. That's weird. He was not wrong about NATO should pay more of the freight for their defense. Well, he made people pay their fair share. But, you know, okay, so let's not go into the minutiae of his policy. Well,

Well, you don't get to take a jab without letting me jab. What was the jab? No, I'm saying, I thought you were going to go there. Oh. You're like, let me just say one last thing. Bob. Fuck Donald Trump. I mean, it's all out, you know. I know, right. I know where he's standing. Is everything wrong with a human being stuffed into one man? I disagree. I know you do. He's the greatest friend you can have, and he's the guy you want on the front lines if you have to fight. Okay, but that's, friend is different than how he runs the job. But okay, we're never going to agree, and that's okay. Okay.

Because that's what we're, if we have any message here on this PSA we're making for America. Let's go, Brandon. Brought to you by Kinrog and Bill Maher. And the MyPillow guy. No, no. Not let's go, Brandon. Hey, just doing a quick commercial in case you don't want to watch commercials.

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And we see it in so many places. People who are on opposite sides of this now just polarizing red and blue divide have to stop shutting each other out. My editorial this week is about this idea of mingling, that...

We have these statistics that Americans are moving way less than they ever have before. Was this the one you did about fucking your boss? No, that was last week. I haven't seen this. You're fucking me? Yeah. Thank you. Which is great. Oh, thank you. Props. Right. No, this one is coming up on Friday, and it's going to be about the idea that we don't move anymore. And one of the reasons people don't move is because they literally don't feel safe or comfortable anymore.

moving to a part of the country. Can you imagine wearing a MAGA hat on the subway in New York or wearing a pro-Biden t-shirt at a NASCAR rally? That's a bad place for us to be. Sounds like a great TV show. Yeah. But I would go to one of your concerts. I would love to go to one of your concerts. You're welcome anytime. I know. And they wouldn't kill me, right? Oh, yeah.

That's what was funny about this. Are you sure? What's that positive? Yeah, no. You know the cliche of the greatest fans on earth? My fans are better than Jimmy Buffett fans. Wow. Is that like some standard that I don't know about Jimmy Buffett? Do you know Jimmy Buffett? What, do you live in a fucking cave? No, I know Jimmy Buffett. You say you like music, you like the Eagles. I do. But, I mean, I didn't know Jimmy Buffett's fans were known to be the great. Why, because of the parrot head thing? Yes, they're fucking just loyal, great. Very loyal. Yes.

No, I love Jimmy Buffett. Like NASCAR fans. Yeah. Well, I mean, let's not even get on how silly it is to watch traffic, okay? I mean, if you find that— She must love it. You live in fucking L.A. We'll be right back. But the good thing is you get to do it at paying $7 a fucking gallon.

Oh, see, this is what I find. 35% fucking sales tax for the highest. Bob, this is what I find tedious. What's that? Is when people go right to like, oh, here's something I can get Biden on because Biden is that bad thing. So gas is $7. I'll get that dig in. It's like you know very well gas prices have nothing to do with who's president, mostly. I don't know that.

Well, some things. What? Enlighten me. I don't know that. Gas prices go up and down based on other factors in the world, not on who's president. The president doesn't run the gas companies. He can change them slightly. The president creates policies that would influence the gas companies like any business. To a degree. To a degree, yes. But why then? I understand you don't want to drill.

Because like, enlighten me on this a little bit. Maybe I can learn something. I don't know. Because being energy independent, and I know the news inflates different things, but you seem to get the stats and you get them pretty correctly. You have a team that obviously gets those and wherever they're digging, they're

They're on. Oh, yeah. They're on. You don't twist them like most people do. I haven't done interviews in years because there's always a gotcha moment. Absolutely. A headline. Right. Fucking for the radio station for this, for that. On your drilling point, let me concede this, as I have on my show.

It makes absolutely no sense to go under the theory that Saudi Arabian fossil fuels pollute the earth, but American fossil fuels don't. They just don't pollute us. If you're not right, I wish we would be all green like tomorrow. But until that happens, I mean, like Germany was very ambitious about going green, but they didn't reach the goal. So in other words, they threw the bathwater out

With the baby? I don't know. Whatever. Forget that analogy. What happened was they had to go back to nuclear because they had a shortfall.

I know. I do know about this. I want us to get there. But until we get there, if we're going to use energy, right, why not American energy as opposed to Saudi Arabian? It just seemed like a very backwards thing. So, like, no, I will never, like, just go with my team. I don't have a team. I don't want one. I never have either. I definitely don't want your team. I played Barack Obama's inauguration.

You did? Me and Kanye West, actually, were the first people to meet him as president. We were in a room together. So here's something. You mentioned his inauguration. Yep. Obama used to play a song on big moments, like when he accepted the nomination. He played it a few other times. Oh, boy. What? Only in America. James Brown? No, no, no. Brooks and Dunn.

Yeah, well, James Brown has Living in America. That's different. You never heard Only in America? You can tell I got it confused is my point. But you never heard it? I know Kicks Brooks well. You must know that song. That's their bass. Yes, of course. Living in America. No, no, no. You had me right until the last minute. I thought you were going to sing it. No, this is sun coming up.

over New York City. It's very country. I love this song. He used to play it because only in America. He used to say, only my story is possible in America. Just without politics, all I know is I fucking love it. When Trump was playing the Village People, he's out there fucking cutting the rug.

Fucking good shit. I think he missed his calling. Anyway, that's... I do... Okay, so this to me says a lot about how we see race in America, or don't see. Because I love that song. White people are good, black people are bad. Done. LAUGHTER

See, the stick-up-their-ass people will object to me laughing there. And, of course, for you telling that. And my response is always, can't you just trust us? Well, trust me, the headline, I can give you the headline, and it's going to be like, Bill Maher and Kid Rock's love affair. Like, you know, we'll try to, hopefully they turn it into some good shit. Maybe when you were young, Bob. No, but, okay, so Only in America. The lyric is...

You know, because I find it like so uplifting, you know, like when you feel down, you could play that song. They've opened shows for Brooks and Dunn. What? They've opened concerts for me. Oh, really? Yeah.

They were huge themselves for a long time. Oh, they're one of the greatest ever. Right. Ronnie Dunn is a singing machine. Oh, it's a great, they have lots of songs I love. Anyway, but Only in America. Red Deer Road's my favorite. And it's got a great electric guitar. And it's only barely country, you know. And the theme is, of course, Only in America. We all get a chance. Everybody gets it. It's like Boo America. Everybody gets to dance. Who's Boo America?

Me? No, you sound like you're explaining it's like living in America. No, no. You keep saying living in America. I'm the one who's stoned, but you keep saying living in America. This is a different... Only in America. Only in America. And that's the theme. Like, we all get a chance. Everybody gets to dance. You know...

We dream in red, white, and blue. If you're in the mood, it's just perfect. Okay. I'm always in that mood. But there is, I know you are. Okay. I'm not always in that mood, but I will get in that mood when I go see you. And I can get in that mood, and it's a good mood. And your songs take me there. They really do. Thank you. Especially like the ones that are like very personal about, you know, when you're a kid and you're drinking beer, even though I didn't drink beer, but I get what you mean. And the girl is on your shoulders and all that stuff. It's almost like it makes me like get very...

you know, oh gosh, those days are gone by a long shot. Nostalgia, baby. Anyway, the lyric is something like...

You know what? Only in America. No, no. Only in America. No, no, no. Wrong again. My partner, ladies and gentlemen, you do a ventriloquist act. You can get on my knee, Bobby. I'll be your Ed McMahon. Oh, please. Ladies and gentlemen, he doesn't mean it. He wasn't educated. No. Bobby, stop it.

He's terrible, ladies and gentlemen. Tell the nice people you're sorry, Bobby. I'm very sorry, ladies and gentlemen. See, there it is. What a great evening it is tonight. He's a sorry puppet. I've always said that. All right, so here's the lyric. It's something like one kid dreams of fame and fortune. One kid helps pay the rent. One might grow up

One might wind up going to prison. One might just be president. Only in America. I'm in. Sold. That's true. But you also have to admit that certainly historically...

That ratio of likely to go to prison or become president was heavily slated toward the white people for the president part and the prison for the black people part. Now, things have changed a lot. Are you saying we should send Barack Obama to prison? No, I'm not. I'm just saying, you know, now the woke, one of the big...

like issues I have with them is they will not concede the amount of change that has taken place in certainly the last, especially five years, but 10 years and all through history. Not to say we're done work. There must progress must be met. Of course. That's my worst fucking thing. I hear from anybody doing a charity. There's a sports fucking player who can't fucking hold an interview. Don't like,

Well, you know, we do a lot. It's just not enough. It's just so tedious to always have to interrupt an adult conversation to appease the people who need to hear things that we just take for granted. Yes, there is more work to be done. We get it. Yes, black lives matter. I heard you say that in one of your songs. Yeah, and then after I said, no shit, motherfucker. Right, no shit, motherfucker.

Right. Hey, Black Lives Matter. Right. Oh, wait. We need to have a science class on this. Fucking get to the bottom of, like, yeah, of course. But, anyway. How's that working out for you? The point of my dissertation on the song Only in America is that, that, yes. Did they say Black Lives Matter in that? No. Let's Go Brandon? No, no. It was way before. Stop it. And, uh.

But that to me is the blind, little blind spot with the Republicans. What's that? That they think that one might grow up to be, go to prison, one might grow up to be president. That just because that, technically and legally, that's still possible. And it's way more like even-handed than it ever was. But there still is a large historical weight toward, again, one of those groups. So you're... You know, I mean, it's like 44 to 1.

So there has been, that is a little bit of a victory. 45 to 1? Are we up to 46? I just like 45. Oh, yes. And I'm sure you think he'll be 47. Yeah. So you've been at the White House. Is it fun? Must be a kick. Well, I've been there with all the presidents since I've been, except Reagan. Really? You were there for Clinton, Obama, Bush? Because I always did those Kennedy Center honors.

You like as a tribute to somebody? Yeah, I've done Led Zeppelin. Because I frankly... Elton John. Wow. Merle Haggard. Wow. They used to call me for these things. And then I was like, I love Trump. They're like, lose his fucking number. Yes. Literally. I've gotten shit every day. And that's what has to stop. That's what has to stop. This...

And that's what's going on. There's a lot of, you don't get to sit at our lunch table. Right. And I know you don't care about, you have your own lunch table, I have my own lunch table. It's just a bad attitude. It's just gross. It's a shitty way to live life. Exactly. It's just a shitty way to live life. It is, man. I have more fun with some of the people that think friends, family, whatever, that think differently. Just like, okay, okay.

You're not going to cry, right? All right, then let's fucking go. And let's have fun around a campfire, drink some beers, and like, hey, I'll give you a fucking hug at the end of the night. It's like hockey. Let's fucking get on with it, man. There's too much, like you said, we're trying to kill some time before we fucking die. Right, and I don't understand a young generation that seems to be so...

if not anti-fun, anxious about fun. Like sex makes them anxious. I mean, I was anxious. Who doesn't get anxious about fucking sex? No, I know, but anxious about... Who sits here like, I've had sex before. No.

No, I mean, I was anxious, but like in a, I feel like a healthy, horny way. Like I was just like a masturbating machine when I was 13 and 14 with not getting anything, but just like masturbating furiously. But at least I had a singular goal. I knew what I was going after. I knew what I wanted. It was just, I was shy, so it wasn't happening. Yeah, when did fame overtake pussy? What do you mean?

So I think there's some kids out there who'd rather be famous than get some pussy. Absolutely. Well, there's, I mean, you know. I think you just described that. We could run back to tape, but I'm like, that's what I gather from that. I'm like, yeah, like, when you're young and everything starts working, you're like, God damn it, my fucking chorus teacher looks hot. See, you know, you and I, I think, have the same thing.

high libido. Like, I think this is a very under-reported thing about humans, is that we have very varying levels of libido. So for you and me, we can't imagine something being more important than, as you say, pussy. You're so crude, Kid Rock. I despise you. I think that's called being a guy. Well, but it's not. See, that's the thing. It's being a certain kind of guy.

Like Bill Clinton is that guy. I mean, I could name lots of guys like that. Well, name me the ones who aren't. They're called dogs. You could probably get that. So many. You just don't hang with them. There's many, many, many. My libido is not like fucking like go for any. It's like, I mean, of course, when you're young and you have the opportunities. But as you're like. Like what? Quality, not quantity. Right. Absolutely. Absolutely.

But still quantity also. I mean, but... My grandpa used to say, everything in moderation, including moderation. That's great. That's a scream. That's great. Yeah. Well... Do you got people here? What was the point of that? Oh, I got one left. La beat. Yeah. La beat-o. La beat-o.

Fucking hell, what's his name? You really do like beer. Yeah. I mean, I really don't like beer, but... That doesn't surprise me. You're a Democrat. When you sing... I'm not a Democrat. I'm never going to announce for a party, although I certainly have caucused with the Democrats much more. How much money have you given the Democrats? Two billion dollars.

Ask me how much I'm good at Republicans. Nothing. Four million. Really? No. That's why I'm good at fishing. Yeah.

Well, I mean, the first time I did it because I thought it was very, very, very important. That was Obama, right? The first black president be reelected. I thought that that was even more important than elected. Because otherwise, too many people would be like, well, we tried a black president and obviously that didn't work out. I always said, man, I want to hang out with Obama and drink beer. I mean, there's not a cooler... All the presidents that I've been able to meet from Jimmy Carter are just...

You got to be charismatic, like obviously. You think he can't get down? Right. I want to drink beer with him. I didn't like a lot of his policies. This, that, and the other. I didn't vote for him. I was invited by MTV because they wanted to show a diversity back then. They're like, we need a right-wing guy who's got a fucking song or two. They're like, it's Kid Rock. I was supposed to go do George W. Bush's Homecoming, like back to Waco.

And they dug up, like, they vetted some shit where I did say some crazy shit about Barbara Bush, like, on an early record when I was 17 years old. Right? So they found that, they were like, basically, you can't come. Very nicely, whatever was done. Like, you know, like, oh, we're busy. We're not doing the party tonight. No one's coming. No one RSVP'd. Like, none of that shit. So I'm on TV calls, like, hey, would you play? I'm like, of course I would. Can I bring my son? My son's mixed. I'm like, it's a big deal.

You know, it's a big deal for me, too. I'm like, fucking hope this motherfucker gets it right because I ain't voted for him. And then we're going, we're there, we perform. It was great. And they grabbed me and Kanye West and they're like, hey, it's time to meet the president and first lady. I'm like, Junior, come on. And they're like, no, no, he can't come. Just you guys, you know, Secret Service and all. And I'm like, fucking follow us. Go in there.

He kind of standing around. Michelle looked beautiful. Barack's cools a cucumber in a bowl of hot sauce. It's like, we say hello. He's like, tell me what's going on, Rock. What's going on? I'm like, I'll tell you what's going on. I go, my son sitting out the door was mixed. His mother's black. I'm like, kind of big deal. Like, you know, if you'd like to say hi to him for a second or whatever. So he's like, sure, bring him in. I'm like, the secret service guy. I'm like, fuck you. No, we...

This is how guys talk, by the way. It's fucking fun.

Why should we sit here with handcuffs on and have a conversation? Don't say this, don't say that. Sweetheart, you're talking and preaching to the converted. You just call me sweetheart, see? That's probably the best jab you could get. I've been sitting in these chairs or any of these chairs in this room for 20 years doing this. I just recently made it a podcast, but this is... Does that suck having to get celebrities, people of...

No, but you know what's... Because they're like, I might get on a TV show. Would you and I, you, somebody I'd love to have gotten to know and have a drink with, would we have ever done this if there wasn't a business reason to do it? That's how people like you and I are. I'm a capitalist. I'm with you. No, but we do things when there's like that kind of...

reason to do it. Otherwise, like, it would just be so weird. Hey, Bob, it's pretty good. I'll give you this. You got balls to do it because at this point, it's not about money. Not at all. I get it. No. Trust me. I'm right there with it. My jet has two middle fingers on the tail. Right. I get it. I get it. Yeah. But this is probably one of the more important podcasts you've done because I am not...

on your side politically. Correct. This, that, and the other, and we can maybe, maybe, maybe it gets a little contagious where people are like, I've lost, I'm not going to say their names, I've lost two friends because of, like, Trump. They weren't friends. They were. Not good ones. Really close friends, I consider. Not good ones. I cannot accept that. And that's your friends. And you sound like one of my boys in the hood. No, I cannot accept that. Fuck them. They were never your friend. They never were. It's like,

Man, this is some history. I'm not going to get into it. It's arrogant. You know, I put in this piece I'm doing Friday about how America needs to mingle more. And like I said, people don't move because they were literally afraid to be in a part of the country that isn't their political tribe. Come hang with me in Alabama. I've been to Alabama. Yeah.

I mean, what I don't do... You've been to rural Alabama, me and Hank Jr. No, no, no. No, no. And there's no need... These are just working class people, black, white, fucking all that shit. Like, they're all poured together. They work their asses off and they fucking... They will never move out of there. No, Bob, I have never been to rural Alabama and there's no reason for me to ever go.

I just invited you. That's not a good reason. I know, and I love that, but at my age, I'm just not going to go to a ranch or something in the middle of nowhere. No, I can't go to... But I have played Birmingham. I've played Mobile. They're great. Yeah, I'm 30 minutes from... No, from Montgomery. You said Mobile. Mobile. Oh, Montgomery. I may have played Montgomery. You're 30 minutes? Well, yeah.

You know what? I'll take that back. If I was in, if I'm playing Montgomery, Alabama, which is possible, they've got a theater. What do you charge a night? What do I charge? You can tell me off the record. You get in free. No, no, no. I mean for your shows. Oh, I don't know. I mean. I might book you and put you on my deck. Probably like, I don't know, 50 to 100 or something like that. That's it? Maybe there's some expensive receipts. That's it? What should I be charging? A million dollars?

Well, you're playing the Fox Theater in Detroit, correct? Correct. That's 5,000 seats. Yeah. So you got to be walking out of there with 300 grand. Well. I can do that, man. A guy's got to eat.

There's also... No, no, you should. No, I mean... Don't feel bad about it. No, I mean, I don't feel bad at all. Outside of your white privilege, don't feel too bad about it. I love money, and I wouldn't drive an Uber if I didn't. I mean, I get all I can. And there's nothing wrong with that, and I'm a big defender of that. How long is your contract with HBO?

Forever. It's like with the devil. I was going to say, because you could fucking just cancel that. Why? Do that show you just said. What show? Fuck, I just forgot. Run that tape back. You just said something like, that's your new TV show. I think it's so interesting that I'm older and stoner, and you forget what you're saying as much as I do. I'm in a band. Yeah. Well, and you're on tour now.

I mean, you're just finishing. So what is, I'm very curious what touring is like now at 50. I fly in 40 minutes before the show, go over set list, warm my voice up, go on. I have them play a little bit so I can get in the car with the cops and get to the plane and get home. 40 minutes. You arrive 40 minutes before the show? Yes. And I'm gone off the stage. I tried to hang around a couple nights. It's just fucking pictures.

It's just a fucking life's a picture. And my biggest song is called Picture. Right. Well, I mean, especially at Rockstar. I mean, you would have to take thousands and thousands of pictures. And then what are you going to do? Unless someone's like, I bought all your fucking albums. Well, no, that's why you have to do the Elvis exit. You have to be Elvis has left the building. That's exactly what I do. No, no. I get it. I mean, I also fly in. I always do two cities, but I only stay over one night.

go to the second city and leave right after the show. That's the only way at my age it works for me. It's awesome being rich. It's awesome being rich. It just is. And it is. Can you imagine if they banned, like you heard the talk in France, right? That they might ban private jets?

Because you know what's after that is L.A. And I'm being natural like, ah, fuck off, you motherfucker. Well, I mean, my, not that, you know, at this point I really need to justify it because like I always. You're flying private to your gigs. Well, like I always say, the only people who don't fly private are those who can't.

Anyone who can is seduced by it. Every fucking environmentalist does it. My thing is, if you're not going to be serious about climate change, then just don't fucking come after me for this. Because I tried. I had the first Prius. I had the first... That had a parachute in it, didn't it?

Oh, you're talking about the Prius car? Yeah. Well, I'm just saying I was trying to set an example. You might get beat up in Detroit if you roll around a Prius. You can make sense of that, right? Yes, of course, because it's not made in Detroit. Or maybe it is. Prius is a version. No. Prius is not made in Detroit. Where is it made? The only electric car being made in Detroit right now is Rivian. I like their actually...

Their trucks and their SUVs. You keep up with the Detroit market? I keep up with the stock market, believe it or not. No, but like the cars and like you care about? I'm a car guy, yeah. Not Jay Leno level, but. So, you know who we should get together with? Because it's perfect for what we're saying about bringing the country together. And he's another Michigan guy. And he's one of my best friends. Oh, Michael Moore. Please. Oh, that motherfucker. Come on, man.

Why? No, I would. I'd get together with anybody. That's what I say. Stevie Wonder invited me and Kanye West to go on an African enlightenment trip a few years ago at a Grammy after party. And I was like, fuck yeah. It's the weirdest shit I ever fucking heard. Let's go to Africa with Stevie fucking Wonder. It never happened, but it aligns with what you're saying. Yeah, Michael Moore, like, fuck, I hate all. I like that one movie.

About the fat people. I remember years ago, I walked into a toy restaurant. You know, this is from Flint, Michigan, Grand Funk Railroad. Stevie Wonder was born in Saginaw, Michigan. Brag about that. Well, no, they're opening my concerts. Grand Funk Railroad? Yeah. We're an American band. You know who wrote that? It was a black group called the Soul Brothers Six. Is that their other hit?

Yeah. Some Kind of Wonderful. Some Kind of Wonderful. That's Grand Funk Railroad? No. Yes. They made the hit out of it. Really? This was like Pat Boone doing a fucking... Are you sure? Oh, fuck it. I'll bet you this fucking problem. No, I'm sure you're right. They opened for you. Yeah. But their big one was, we're an American band, right? I like that. I'm your captain. Everybody listen to me.

Have returned me my ship. See, your songs always have energy. I remember hearing you once in an interview, again, always making friends, Bob. I remember you saying something like, I think you were talking about Radiohead.

Oh yeah, I don't get that. And you were like, I'm not putting it down. And I thought, again, I thought, I feel exactly the same way. Creep, I like that. His kid's like, right, Creep. The only normal song to me, he's like over a drum machine. And everyone's like, he's a fucking genius. I'm like, that fucking kid don't know what the fuck he's doing. I program drum machines.

I just don't get it, but there's lots of types of music and types of things that people like. Absolutely. I just don't, and that's fine, whatever blows your dress up. Exactly. You know? I fucking agree a thousand percent. I know. I know you do. What's fun, though, is to get in a conversation and enlighten somebody. Right. Not on politics or any shit like that, but...

And understanding, like, I could play some music right now that would blow your fucking mind. Like, you'd be like, no way, Steve Miller didn't write that? I could play this blind black guy, Paul Pina, playing Jetliner. It's probably right there with Sweet Home Alabama. Love Jetliner. But this version, fucking, I'll turn you on to it before I leave. Yeah. Shit like that, like, hey, let's do that shit. Send me your playlist. That's not gay. No. No?

Two guys sharing a playlist? No, that's fine. I've got a mixtape I want to give you before you go. No. Listen, thank you for that thing. That's an awesome. That's Mike Lindell, sir. Oh, I know exactly who it is. Well, don't call him a thing, all right? Well, he's a person. That's a thing. He's a man.

There's going to be a report on smoke crack and now he sells pillows and he makes millions of dollars, okay? I'm just gonna say there's going to be a report on him someday and I guarantee it will include the phrase urine soaked I don't know him. He's I know he's trying to get me he was right He was actually good friends with one of Bob Seger's players who passed away recently a good friend of mine out to read and

But isn't, you wouldn't have him for dinner? Absolutely. Well, no, no, not dinner. I'd have him for dinner. I mean, but that's not because if it's Mike Lindell, I'd have him like here. I'd love to have him here. Can you get him here? I'd love to have Mike Lindell. I got the cameras on us.

Okay, well, if you, but like, I would absolutely love to talk to Mike Lindell. He doesn't really, he stays out of the media. I understand. He stays out of the media like me. I know, but. He stays out of the media like me. But the question was. Don't fucking agree with me, I'm making a joke. The question is what. He doesn't like, you know, to be on camera, he stays out of the media a little bit. Darling, I understand what you're saying. Is that not just that not good of a joke? Let's not fight.

Hey, do you have people that can grab me another beer? No, I got to go. Hey, guys. Oh, great talking to you. It's been two hours. It is? I could do it for another two hours, I swear to God. I hope we keep in touch. Are we going to hug? You're a big bro, man. Fucking goddamn. See, we laugh. That was good.