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Supercommunicators with journalist Charles Duhigg

2024/2/20
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Amber Revin:访谈一开始就点明了主题——优秀的沟通者并非天生,而是后天学习的结果。她以里根和乔布斯为例,说明即使是公认的伟大沟通者,也并非一开始就具备这项能力,而是通过后天的学习和努力才取得成功。 Charles Duhigg:在访谈中,他详细阐述了其新书《超级沟通者》的核心观点,即优秀的沟通能力并非天赋异禀,而是可以学习和掌握的技能。他结合自身经历,讲述了在成为纽约时报经理后,由于沟通能力不足而导致工作上的困境,这促使他深入研究沟通技巧并最终完成了这本书。他还提到,在特朗普当选的背景下,社会沟通现状令人担忧,人们急需学习有效的沟通方法。他认为,通过对神经影像学和数据分析的深入研究,现在更容易理解和描述有效的沟通技巧,并且每个人都有潜力成为超级沟通者,只是需要付出努力和思考。 Charles Duhigg:在访谈中,他分享了书中一个关于CIA特工Jim Lawler的故事。Lawler最初在海外招募间谍方面表现糟糕,屡屡失败。直到他改变策略,在与一位来自中东国家的女性Fatima交谈时,坦诚地承认了自己的不足和焦虑,并真诚地表达了对Fatima的理解和尊重。正是这种真诚的沟通,最终赢得了Fatima的信任,并成功地招募了她。这个故事说明了真诚在沟通中的重要性,以及如何通过匹配对方的情绪和状态来建立有效的沟通。 他还分享了在沟通中如何区分不同类型的对话(实用型、情感型、社交型),并进行相应的匹配,以及如何通过提问来引导对方深入交流。他强调,优秀的沟通者会反思失败的对话,并从中学习改进,不断提升自己的沟通能力。

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Charles Duhigg discusses the concept of supercommunicators, dispelling the myth that great communicators are born, not made. He emphasizes that everyone can learn to be a super communicator through deliberate practice and learning from failures.

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Great communicators aren't born that way. They're self-made.

Charles Duhigg is a Pulitzer Prize-winning journalist whose new book, Supercommunicators, explores how some people have unlocked the secret language of connection.

Charles and I discuss what makes these "supercommunicators" unique, why we need stories to convey ideas, and how being honest once saved a CIA recruiter his job.

This...is A Bit of Optimism.

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