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Going To Mars with NASA director Laurie Leshin

2024/3/12
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A Bit of Optimism

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Laurie Leshin 认为 NASA 的未来在于探索宇宙,造福全人类,而不是以盈利为目的。她回顾了自己儿时对火星的着迷如何激发了她对太空探索的热情,以及她如何看待商业太空产业的兴起为更多人参与太空探索提供了机会,NASA 可以专注于更远距离的科学探索。她详细阐述了 NASA 与商业航天公司(如 SpaceX 和 Blue Origin)合作的模式,以及 NASA 如何在低地球轨道和月球空间的运输任务上逐步移交给私营部门,同时保留对深空科学探索的专注。她还讨论了 NASA 面临的挑战,包括经费不足、风险规避文化以及公众对 NASA 使命认知的不足。Leshin 指出,NASA 需要重新塑造其叙事,以更好地向公众解释其重要性,并强调 NASA 在国际合作中的重要角色,例如与其他国家在太空站和地球科学项目上的合作。她认为,NASA 应该在重返月球后,迅速将目光转向火星,同时继续进行深空科学探索,并呼吁在将人类送往火星之前,先解决往返火星的样本返回问题。她还分享了自己在 JPL 的领导经验,包括如何建立优秀团队、清除官僚障碍,以及如何鼓励尝试和犯错,以促进创新。她认为,大型太空探索项目需要很长的研发周期,而 NASA 需要在大型项目和小型项目之间取得平衡,并学习商业公司的效率和专注度。最后,她强调了团队合作和多元化的重要性,以及如何创造一个能够发挥创造力的环境。

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The discussion explores the role of NASA amidst the rise of commercial space companies like SpaceX and Blue Origin, and how NASA's mission differs by focusing on exploration for the greater good of humankind.

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As the private space industry races to colonize space for profit, where does NASA fit in to the equation?

Laurie Leshin is just the person to answer that question. She's the Director of NASA's Jet Propulsion Laboratory and the first female director in JPL's storied history. To her, NASA's future is defined by its mission — exploring the cosmos for the greater good of humankind.

Laurie and I discuss the role of Space X and Blue Origin in the new space age and why NASA should set its sights on Mars, and flying to even deeper space beyond.

This...is A Bit of Optimism.To find out more about Laurie and her work, check out:jpl.nasa.gov)

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