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Welcome back to the LifeWide Open podcast with C-Boys TV. Episode number two. Off to a solid start. We're rolling, man. We're rolling. Thank you guys so much for such a good response on the first one. We were receiving so many nice messages. And last I checked, we're at 37,000 subscribers. Crazy. Yeah. I remember when CJ put up the thing that said, can we get to 10K by tonight? I was skeptical, too. I was like, I don't know if I can. I was like, let's do it. And then it just... Two for the stars, you know? You guys killed it. Also...
Jamie would like to say sorry about the camera angles. He deeply apologizes, and he learned his lesson. He did learn his... That was probably the best thing that could have happened because... Dialed.
Ken, actually, you know what? Jamie. Sorry. Jamie, I should maybe start by apologizing to him. I lost my cool. I go as far to say as I lost my cool. I was mad. I was like, you had one fucking job, buddy. Some might say you are the new resident psycho. No. Who's saying that? Me.
I think Ben reamed you hard enough for all of us. I was like, I don't even have to say anything after that. Ken, after I reamed Ken so hard, he disappeared for like two hours and just went and shipped orders. I don't even know if there was orders to be shipped, but he just disappeared. He started selling shirts on the corner. I definitely learned my lesson from that, from how psycho you are. Ken doesn't have a tail, but if he did, it was between his legs. It's an honest mistake, though. I probably would have done the same thing. Maybe. But, like...
I didn't even think that the cameras were going to stop halfway. But anyways, we value having three cameras. We think it's very important and adds to the viewer experience. So that's not going to happen again. And that's why it happened on the first one. Exactly. Honestly, something was going to go wrong there. It was either going to be the audio or cameras or something.
Hopefully we can keep this ball rolling too, so we're going to be like three years in and watch the very first episode and have a good laugh. It'll be like our YouTube videos. Yeah, exactly. So we announced last podcast that we're going to be giving away $500 to two different viewers that subscribe to the channel. We selected them, and then I already sent the money. So congratulations, David Ontiveros and Ashley Skug. We'll pop it up so we have some proof that we actually paid them, but...
I thought the odds were going to be pretty good, but we got so many dang subscribers. Yeah, subscribers and comments and all that. So we're actually going to do that again this episode.
We're going to be giving away some AirPod Pros. All you got to do is subscribe to the channel, drop a comment, and then like the video. And then also follow us on Instagram at cboistv and at LifeWideOpenPodcast. Yeah. We're going to be selecting one person and sending them these AirPod Pros. Anyways. Anyways, we have a special guest to introduce today. And by special, I mean like literally the most special. I'm going to let...
CJ do the introduction today we have our longtime friend OG c-boy turn engineer the nerdy badass the soon-to-be married man Justin play John Cena music
Oh, wait. What'd you just... Did you kick something? Oh. Wow. I didn't even see that down there. I was like, hold up. Did we forget? No, no. I had that thing planted. CJ planted an ice under Justin's chair. It's only right. Wow. What a way to start this. We've really been on an ice train lately.
It's just so fun. I ice-kinned 10 times last weekend. Holy crap. No wonder he needs to cease and desist against you. It's like this guy is just a human drain. He just poured that down his throat. Yeah.
I actually haven't had anything to drink all day, so I'm already wasted. Justin. Good to be here. Happy to have you, man. Highly requested. Yeah. I was kind of surprised by that. There was a lot of comments about me. I feel like you were meant for podcasting, bro. You have the perfect mix of wittiness and you're smart.
And you're like really calculated and you know what to say. Like pretty much on any topic. That's a really good way of saying I have a lot of shitty dad jokes. That's about all that I have to offer. But no, I appreciate it. You got a lot more than that. Yeah, no, I...
I don't know. I feel like, especially with you guys, it just comes really naturally to just talk for hours on end. I mean, we do this a lot. But yeah, I've always wanted to do podcasts. I feel like it's something that we'd all be good at. And I don't know. I like to listen to my own voice because I'm a narcissist. But no, I'm just kidding. You were the one that initially said we should do podcast...
Yeah, I think. Two or three years ago and do it on Patreon. Yeah, and I bought those super awful like Amazon microphones. Those like USB ones. We still have those. Which for the record, I don't know if they were that awful because we never even tested them. I tested them in my apartment and they sound like trash. Yeah, right. It's like a tin foil. They look like a microphone that like the Backstreet Boys would have been holding in 2000. Like a prop basically. Up on stage like...
I didn't know what to do for podcasting because I was like, oh, well, you need microphones. Yeah, it was a good start. Everything that I was looking at, they were like, I wanted to get a cheap microphone that people said, oh, it sounds good. And yeah, we never did anything with it. Yeah, I think we were early. Hey, well, we're here now. Yeah, I mean, you guys made the point of like,
You don't want to do something like this unless you have the ability to do it right. I feel like if we had done it, then we'd be sitting like in the shop, just fans all over the place, just really crappy mics, no sound detonator, just sound like trash. I think we had a hard enough time posting YouTube videos back then. So like bring a podcast in, that'd been tough, but yeah.
No, but it, I mean, that was crazy. Like to think of how much stuff has changed from back then into where you guys are now. Like, it's been so fun for me to just like watch, obviously like you guys are all such close friends of mine and to see how much everything has excelled. It's just so cool. I feel like, obviously I feel like a proud dad, but like, I don't know. It's just cool to see. It's really cool to see. Well, I mean, we'll get into, uh, we'll get into all that and, and talk more along the lines of that. But I,
I want to kind of dive deep into what you're doing like right now. Sure. Like what's going on with work. You're getting married in a month. In less. And all of us are in your wedding? Yeah, no. All the guys are groomsmen in the wedding. Megan and I are getting married on August 14th, so like 28 days from now, which is crazy. It's coming up. Yeah. And Megan and I, my fiance, we've been dating for nine years.
Nine years and change. A long, long time. Mike, did I say too long? No, that's what, we were, I don't mean to interrupt, but I was like, we were talking about that and we were like, isn't it super exciting they're getting married? Which obviously it is. But I'm like, dude, I've never known Justin as any other person besides with Megan, which is a beautiful thing. Literally, what, nine years? Yeah, nine years. Crazy. That's like as long, literally as long as I've known you.
Yeah, exactly. So, yeah, she's like my best friend. So, I don't know. I'm just happy to get married. It's going to be a lot of fun. It's been a long time coming for sure. Yeah, for sure. Are you nervous? No. I mean, like I'm nervous for the day. I want everything to go right and I want everybody to have a good time. But like I think Megan and I are kind of on the same page where it's like,
the nerves about everything are pretty low where I think we're just excited to do it. Excited to have everybody there, get everybody together, have a really good time. I mean, we've talked about getting married for a long time. It's just kind of like seeing that it's finally coming and yeah, it's going to be a lot of fun. Damn bro. I mean any, yeah, I was like, especially for you, it's a very special day. Any wedding that consists of all of us, that's
Should be pretty fun. I'm just surprised that you're letting all of us be in the wedding. I'd be most worried about that, especially after the bachelor party, bro. I think we got most of the bugs out for the bachelor party, but you hope. Yeah, we'll see. Yeah. I don't know. I think there's not a group of people that I wouldn't, that I would want more. You guys are all my best friends. We've been friends for eons. You know, I wouldn't,
imagine anybody else standing up next to me on that day other than you guys. So thank you. I'm honored, honestly, to be a part of it. So yeah, thank you. Yeah, we're excited. That's going to be a, that's going to be a good day. Yeah. It's going to be a lot of fun. So what is, what is like the drinking rules? Cause I'd imagine you guys are going to be like, okay,
You can't get too drunk until this time. Yeah. Well, so not saying that we will. Yeah. Do you have a blacklist? Uh, not yet. Depends on how you guys behave for the next month. Okay. Well, I'm just wondering what, what would happen if cheddar showed up? Uh, cheddar would get shredded. And then I had asked for Ben to come back. Oh, fuck. He's ready. Yeah. What do you mean? Chet's dead. Uh,
Since the mullet's gone, I'm not too concerned now that the mullet's not there. Now he just looks like a little kid. Yep. Now he looks like he's a junior groomsman. He's the little ring bear. His mom's going to walk him up the aisle. Goddamn. Hi, I'm Angie Hicks, co-founder of Angie. And one thing I've learned is that you buy a house, but you make it a home. Because with every fix...
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Today's episode is brought to you by Angie. Angie has made it easier than ever to connect with skilled professionals to get all your jobs and projects done well. Let me tell you, there's the version of it where you try to do something at home, and then there's a version of it where you have someone help you, you watch them do it the right way, and you go, thank God I didn't try to do that myself.
I have fully done things around the home that I think look good and then a bang in the night and I wake up to a shelf collapsing, a painting falling off the wall. Like it, I've seen it all go south. I own a home and I can tell you, I know how much work it can take. Whether it's everyday maintenance and repairs or making dream projects a reality, it can be hard just to know where to start. But now all you need to do is Angie that and find a skilled local pro who will deliver the quality and expertise you need.
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Because when it comes to getting the most out of your home, you can do this when you Angie that. Download the free Angie mobile app today or visit Angie.com. That's A-N-G-I dot com. There's still time to do that. We can do that. That would actually be really funny. Okay, so, dude, I ask, like, if you're nervous to get married, like, are you, granted, have you had any other girlfriends? No. It's just Megan? Yeah, no, literally just Megan. Like, I had, like...
Yeah, Megan and I have been dating since freshman year of high school. Damn, that's crazy. First kiss? Yeah. Wow. And only kiss? Yeah, only one time. How was it? Tell me details. Well, dude, I think it's tough. You're going to get a lot of people that are going to be like, that's lame.
You're lame for that. Well, I mean, it's like. I mean, when you know you know. Yeah, exactly. Why would you look elsewhere? The reason I, well, not the main reason I asked, but okay, so last weekend. Oh, my God, dude. We ran into these two 45-year-old women. Oh, boy. Mommies. Yeah. Well, they more so ran into us. Ran into us. They scouted us out. Just me and Ben. Me and CJ are standing there.
And these two ladies come up to us and we were talking to them and they were asking us about like YouTube channel. I don't know if they came up initially. They came up initially and was like, can we get a picture for like my nephew or something like that? Right. And we're like, okay, yeah, okay. So that's pretty normal thing. Take the picture. And pretty soon there's like still hanging around. And I remember she's like, God damn, how'd she say it? She, she started like saying like, I mean, you, you guys are, are really good looking. Yeah.
Which, I mean, honestly, I never hear that. But Ben probably all the time. But she starts kind of like going that way with it. And we're like, okay, yeah, thanks. And so then CJ is talking to like one of the ladies. Just being nice. We're not flirting. Yeah, we were just talking. Around all our friends. Right, right, right, exactly. It was very innocent. And then the one lady was like, how old are you? To me, I was like 22. 22?
She's like, I have a 22-year-old boyfriend. What? Her husband's right over on the boat next to us. Like, not too far. Probably a football field away. And I was like... Husband or boyfriend? Hold up, hold up, hold up. I didn't know. Both of their husbands. I didn't know if she was married or not. So I was like, really? You have a 22-year-old boyfriend? I'm intrigued. Tell me more. And I was like, well, how did that come to be? And she tells me about how they met and everything and how he asked her on a date and stuff.
All this shit, right? And I go, wow, I would have thought you were married. And she goes, oh, no, I am. Puts up her finger. Massive rock. I was like, holy fuck. I'm twice as confused now. And so she proceeds to tell me about how all these 45-year-old moms are just trying to get deep dicked by, like, 22-year-old guys. I was like, what?
This is a thing? She called it the MILF effect. Yeah. Yeah. She was like, yeah, it's the MILF effect. Like, all these guys, because, like, wives, you know, they've got lives. They've got kids. They've got bills to pay, all this shit, right? And they just want to have some. And husbands. And husbands, right. But they just want to have fun. And, like, that's all, like, younger guys want to do is just, like, have fun. And so it's, like, win-win for all. Have sex, yeah. And I was like, you're telling me that this is common? Yeah.
And she was like, oh yeah, super common, which I have a kind of a hard time believing. It depends who you, who you're marrying. You definitely don't have to worry about Justin, but no, no, but I was just, that's what the moral of the story is. So anyway, no, no, but I was like, well, like this, this happens. And then I, I go up to our friends, Mark and Tint, um,
And they've been around the block a couple times. And they go, oh, yeah, no, that's common. I was like, I was a little taken off guard there, not going to lie. So I was. So do you think like the husbands meet the boyfriends? No, no, no, no, no, no. Well, I asked. I asked. I was like, does your husband know? You asked the husband? Yeah. Do you know? No, I was what Mike would call bent reviewing. So I kind of went into like a little interview on her. So she's the next guest on the podcast? Yeah, you were intrigued. If you're intrigued. She'll be a phenomenal guest.
But I was kind of asking just like, so what's the situation here? Like, does the husband know? And she was like, yeah, he's caught me a couple times. But like, I just, I'm so good at covering it up. What's a couple times? I know. I know.
I'm like, what? Oh, sorry. I'm just babysitting. No. He's the pool boy, I swear. Yeah. No, I have no idea. In the meantime, like, I start catching on, like, oh, that's her husband and the other husband. They're, like, standing over on the back of the boat. Those guys didn't look necessarily... They weren't mad, but they definitely weren't enthused with these two gals, like, hanging around our boat, like, trying to talk to us. Yeah. And I was like, I think you better go over...
Get back with your guys, and they're waving them over. I was like, oh, Jesus. But yeah, that was interesting. That could have ended actually kind of bad for me and you. I would have slapped that guy around. It was weird timing, though, because Alex, my girlfriend, and I just got done watching that show Sex Life. I don't know if you guys have seen it on there, but it's basically about this housewife that has fantasies about her ex-boyfriend and goes and cheats on him.
The show was crazy. Yeah, it's really good. But it was strange timing because I was like, no shit, maybe this does actually happen. Well, that's the thing, dude. It was shocking. I heard the story the day before and then me and Greta started watching that. I was like, oh my... This is more normal than you think. Is this just... Am I just...
open-eyed to it now where I'm starting to see this. I don't think it's common, so you have nothing to worry about. Long story short, I don't know. I think it's common. I think you just got a nice wife. Nice soon-to-be wife. Yeah, and if it is, you have 20 more years to look forward to before that happens. Shit. I'm kidding.
People have their own way of doing their relationships. Hey, yeah, maybe they're cool with it. But anyways, that's enough on that, I'd say. Best of luck on the marriage, man. We'll be there on your happy day. Tell us kind of, I mean...
a lot of the, the, the OG viewers, they don't know what you're up to nowadays. They kind of, kind of run them through what, what you're doing. So what I do, um, obviously I'm not in the videos or anything anymore because I am a full-time engineer, uh,
I'm a manufacturing engineer for a company out here in DL. And then I do contract engineering for a company in Fargo. You graduated with an electrical engineering. Yep. So I went, graduated with an electrical engineering degree. And then immediately after I graduated, started working in town, got laid off due to COVID last year. And then...
move back out here found a job out here now I'm working out here so yeah just dope and by out here just means like just down the road from us yeah that's been fucking awesome yeah it's been so nice to be back out here it's been nice being able to see you more frequently yes but anyway I do that reason I'm an engineer it's just kind of how my brain works I mean you guys know like
I just, I'm always thinking of like, okay, how can I take this, make it better, make it faster, improve it. It's not easy. I remember in college watching you, it seemed like, I mean, it was every day you were like doing homework, studying fricking like it. And you'd like show me something. It would have been easier for me to learn a foreign language. Yeah. Then figure out what you were doing. I mean, I was like trying to show you guys how differential equations work.
I think it took about 30 microseconds for everybody's faces. Just check out, honestly. Yeah, we were out of there. But yeah, so when we were at...
most of you guys went to school for anywhere between one and four years. And we lived with myself, Justin, Ken, and Jake lived in a house together in Fargo. And again, yeah, that was amazing. We also ran like our whole operation like out of there. We like shipped all our merch out of there. It was the weirdest thing. We didn't have a shop. We just used it, man. Three-story house, just like a rundown college house.
But there was a time when, Justin, you would leave at 8 in the morning and show up back up at midnight. And you're like, hey, I was doing homework in class. I'm like, bruh. Yeah. That's insane. That sucked. It was like a full-time job and then some. You were visibly stressed back then, dude. Oh, God. Visibly. It was so bad. It was not fun. It's so awesome having you around now. Yeah. And you just slide in a video. Yeah.
Um, you know, we don't make a point like Justin come out and we're going to film this video with you. But whenever Justin's around, I love Adam. I hope you do too. But I love seeing the comments when they're like, they're still happy. Um, and so like, yeah, when you rip a good dad joke in a video, like it's, it's not planned. It's always just like fluent. Yeah. I feel like you like dwindled out during those gruesome, like college years, you know, cause you literally like you had your goal of becoming an engineer and,
You barely even had time to sleep, so let alone drive an hour out to here to film a YouTube video, you know, which at the time was even... I mean, if you're looking at it, it's probably less significant than it is now. You know, it wasn't necessarily bringing in money or whatever. It was just... I know that... I know, like, in my heart, that if timing would have been different, things would have been so different. But, I mean, you look back on where we were at. I was...
just grinding in school. I know. And you guys, like, I felt bad because I wanted to be a part of everything that was going on, but I couldn't justify, like, not doing what I was doing and then also come out. And then it was, we didn't have the structure where it was like, yeah, it was so, there wasn't, you guys didn't have it. We didn't have a schedule. Just to be clear, you're talking about when we had to like have that talk when we technically just, you sold your shares. Yeah.
Is what you're talking about right now? Just to add context to the listener or so? So for those of you at home that are probably confused, late 2019, we came to a point where we were forming a couple new LLCs just because it had grown to a level where we had to have basically like an umbrella holdings company.
And like, that was like the determining factor of like, okay, who is on this new company? And it had to be really decided there. And at the time, you know, we were pretty much all full time. Justin was, uh,
Were you... It was right after college. Yeah, or... I had... It was my last semester. Justin was, you know, doing what he wanted to do, which was become an engineer. I think you were on almost a different trajectory. We were just looking... Different trajectory. And also to put in, like, it's not that he didn't want to be doing... No, exactly. And, you know, we just had to sit down and have that conversation. Like, look, where is this going? Because this is where we're going or planning on going. And this is where you're going. It just doesn't really make sense. Yeah.
And that's the hardest part about going into business with your best friends is no one wants to have that conversation. Like we all dreaded that conversation. It was probably one of the hardest things I've ever had. Oh yeah. I think for everybody, like there's nothing fun about that situation. That just all around suck. Yeah. Which is so interesting. You get plenty of people, mostly adults that are like,
Well, you guys are in business with your friends. You're going to run into issues. And then we're like, for the record, we know. Yeah. We know. That's how it goes whenever you go into business with your friends ever. It's just...
We know. So the fact that, I mean, we're just able to literally be here sitting down right now. Oh, yeah. Just all, like, literally best friends is so amazing. You know what I mean? No grudges, nothing. It would be really easy to, like, look at that situation and be like, oh, man, that's not fair. But, like, it was fair. It was the way that things needed to happen for...
for everyone involved to be successful. I know that I could not have like supported or implemented anything into the process that you guys have and actually sustained it and made it any better than where you are now. It's been too tough for you with working your, obviously your full-time job. Yeah. I mean, and I don't want to do something if I'm not going to be a hundred percent into it. And like, it wasn't fair for me to be like,
30% into this when it's something that means so much to you guys. And just to be clear, it wasn't because we were like, oh, Justin's not –
It was just like Justin's going down a different path. Yeah. Did it feel like... Did we not do a good job at explaining that? No, we didn't. No, we didn't. I can speak for him. We did a terrible job. Because I just remember you going like, bro, hit me like a freight train. We could have talked about it. And we're like, yeah, we totally... And we're just not good at it. How do you? Confrontation is so hard. And so then it's like we just hit you out of nowhere. And then so...
We did handle that conversation pretty bad. Well, yeah, the way that it happened sucked. But if I was in your shoes on like the other end of that, I don't know if I would have been able to do it any differently because there's not an easy way to let someone down in that way. As in like, let someone off the, off the train where it's like, you kind of almost have to be like, Hey,
This is what is best for everyone. And whether it seems like it or not at that time, it's what it is. And it was the right choice. Like I've never since then doubted that that was the right or wrong decision. That was the right decision to make. Yes, it could have gone differently, but we would have ended up at the same point. It's good that you were able to see that even with how little we communicated that. Because I knew there was not a shred of any of that conversation and how that went down. That was personal.
Like none of it. Like if it was, if it was personal, you guys like, we wouldn't have had that like bro moment afterwards where we're like, we were all just like hugging. Yeah. We were like welling up and like hugging each other. Like this sucks. If that didn't happen, I would have known like, okay, there's something else going on. But like we had been friends for years. We have still been friends for years. I feel like our relationship is as
good as it's ever been. I agree. I wouldn't take the what we have now for anything. Back then, when we were, you know, 100% in and obviously you want it to be, but you just couldn't. You know, it just didn't make sense. Well, that was hard for
for me, because, you know, I dropped out of college for this. I devote pretty much 24-7 to it. Like, I have problems with my girlfriend because I can't hang out with her because I'm just working and all these different things. And, um, it,
I don't think I... I wasn't, like, salty towards you. I was just, like, at a point, it just didn't really make sense for me to put in that amount of time and then for you to basically be in the same position. Part of it, yeah. Part of it, I think, was, too, the way that everything was structured was not...
There was no structure. Well, from like the, on the business side of things where it was like everyone was equal partners in what was owned and that, but there wasn't equal workload and that was the main problem. Exactly. Because I was just as much of a like shareholder as you guys were. And I was putting in a fraction of the time. So like, again, like I had,
do not have a doubt in my mind that what you guys did was the wrong thing, like, or the right thing. You guys... Fuck you guys. No. No. I think that was 100% the right thing to do. If we wouldn't have had that conversation back when we did, I think things actually probably would have gone more south than good, you know? I don't know if we...
would have ended on such good terms. There's a really good quote. I'm not sure whose quote it is, but it's one that I've been holding on to is conflict delayed is conflict multiplied. Yes. So the longer you wait to address something, the worse it's going to get. Right. Almost always. Yeah. Oh, a hundred percent. Like you, the longer you wait to like deal with something, the worse it's going to be when you do deal with it. It wouldn't have made sense to like, just kick the ball along until you guys have like a
a million subscribers and then it's like oh well yeah then it almost i mean then you get like obviously viewers involved and stuff like like it was with jake you get people that are just like what's going on what's going on not that people didn't ask but the only thing that i would have changed is that i wish i could have said something to the channel of like hey i'm backing off like i i'm not going to be around because the the statement for sure the lack of an answer for the people who are wondering like okay where is he that's the thing where i was like okay i wish that i could like provide that at least that where it's like hey
And I think that... That's why I'm happy that, like, at least we get to do it now. I think part of the reason at the time was it wasn't like you were done being in videos or anything like that. And also it was... And we felt... I mean, I think we'd be lying if we didn't feel, like, a little bit embarrassed about the way that we did go about it so that we weren't going to call you up and go, do you want to make a statement? Right. You'd have been like, nah. Yeah, yeah, yeah. At the time, I don't know. Also, though, like, you had been in such...
grind mode with school, you hadn't been in videos for, I mean, it had been a very long time. So it would have been almost like hard to be like, Hey, Justin's not going to meet, you know, cause it was, it wasn't going to be much of a change is kind of the way we, I was far from regular for weeks. I remember, I remember one time I think,
I think it was three months. You went without being in a video. And then you came when we were doing the building the snow fort and you got to, you were in it for that. But I remember thinking like, man, Justin has been here for three months. And I think we even said something in the video. I don't know how or why, like how are this bond works, right? Called the Seaboys. Before, even before we were named that, it was seven of us.
And, you know, you get a lot of people that are like, why don't you make Cody a C-boy or why don't you make Evan a C-boy? I don't. It's not like a gang. Yeah, it's not a gang. We can't add. Here's all I got to say is we can't add people. We can have plenty of characters on the channel and this character could get paid and put on payroll and be like just an entertainer, but they won't be a C-boy. I don't know how to like explain that. It sounds so cringy. It is. And Justin is a C-boy.
It's not cringe. It's just like we didn't pick it. Like we just... So I'm saying like whether you're not on the business, there's seven Seaboys. Whether or not you have your own channel fucking down the road, you're still a Seaboy. I don't know why. I always find it like... At heart.
Like, I guess, you know, I don't know. Yeah, I guess. Actually, I don't know. Maybe Justin. No, I don't. Yeah. Well, yeah, technically, Jake, Jake proclaims. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. That is. So then it gets a little weird. But anyway, Justin, Justin is you burn the merch and it's like you're out. No, no, no.
Well, I burned all mine. I just didn't record. He went home right away and had a little bonfire. Something funny about like the whole like seaboys thing. It's like weird when like someone comes up to me and be like, you're, you're a seaboy, right? And I'm like, I mean, yeah, I guess I'm,
I'm on Seaboy's TV. I don't know. It's just like I don't walk around. I'm not like, I'm a Seaboy. I'm going to start telling people you're not a Seaboy. No, but I'm saying is like I don't walk around like I'm a Seaboy. Like I'm CJ Lotzer and I'm a part of Seaboy's TV. Yeah, yeah. And everyone calls me a Seaboy from that. But it's like. That's the thing is I don't want to necessarily be known as a Seaboy for the rest of my life. You probably will. No, you're not going to. What?
No, you know what I'm saying, though? Well, you're just a part of C-Boy's TV. It's like a show, you know? Yeah, definitely. It's like a part of a group identity. Yeah, it is. Maybe I shouldn't say that. I'll be clipped when I'm way older. You know what I'm saying, though? And then people crack the joke, like, how about when you grow up, you're going to become a C-Man. That's what people were cracking jokes like. When we moved into our new house, it's on a different lake.
I guess we can say it. So it's on Pelican Lake. And everyone was like, so are you going to be the P boys now? And I'm like, no, we're going to rebrand, be the P men. We've aged up a bit. And they'd always laugh. But I cannot stress enough that we're not like...
We're the C-Boys. We didn't just decide that we were the C-Boys. We just started C-Boys TV. And it's funny. It became so much part of our public identity. Yeah, we'll be the first ones to say it. Like, our name is definitely our name, right? It is, yeah. But C-Boys? Like, we're just, you know, oh, you guys are like the boys gang or what? You know? It's our name, but, like, we don't necessarily accredit ourselves to being, like, the boys. Yeah, it's pretty easy for people to, like,
uh, chirp you, you know, he's like, Oh, there's a seabird. Like it's not fucking hard at all. No, it's not hard at all. It does roll up. It's super weird to think about. Uh, I just remember when we were at, in California at Tanner Fox's, this,
drives by full of kids and they're all like fuck Tanner Fox they're all yelling and I'm like I bet you get that he's like yeah don't don't like yell back at him please and Jake was about to but it reminded me when we finally started getting those around here it like honestly I was flattered you just get the random like fuck seaboys and then I'm just like alright
All right. This doesn't happen to me so much anymore, but I remember back in the college days, especially when we were smaller, I'd go to the bar and someone would come up. They'd chirp me. The football players really loved chirping, which is so funny nowadays. I got a story about that. I think you might have to tell it. But they'd be chirping me, and I'd be like, dude, I don't even fucking know who you are. Okay. And walk away.
But we liked the football team. I mean, we still like them. But there was just certain people on there that were chirping. I wonder where those guys are at now. Actually, I did meet one of the guys. I'm not going to say his name. But a dude that I had gotten like a Twitter beef with back in college that was on the team. He was chirping us because they had this public Snapchat. A part of NDSU. Whatever you posted and sent to it, it would get posted on that story.
And there was this video of these two guys pulling our, like, Seaboys TV sticker off this pole that had a bunch of other stickers on it. So one of us must have slapped it on there. And it was like, keep this trash out of NDSU. And I screenshot it and I tweeted. I don't remember what I tweeted, but I was like, hey, bro, if you want a sticker, you could have just asked. I'd give you a fresh one. No need to take it off the pole. And then it got like, it was something like that. Did you?
Did you ratio him? He probably ratioed me at least back then. No, no, no. Sorry. Maybe you don't know what that is. I know what it is. It's when the tweet behind it, the reply gets blocked. Yeah, yeah, yeah. So, of course, they tag him, and it becomes this whole thing. It was like football team versus me. And then, of course, Ben chimes in, starts chirping back. So we're sending all these tweets back and forth. Just dumb as fuck. Dumb as fuck, honestly. Stupid. Twitter fights. I meet this kid. I literally met this guy at the 4th of July. Very nice guy. He's actually a...
I can't remember of what sort. He's an engineer, just like you, Justin. Very nice. He even apologized. Because we actually put two and two together. I had met him the day before. I didn't even fucking recognize him. I shake his hand. I'm like, what up, man? How's it going? And I see him the next day. And his buddy came over and was like, oh, you're one of the C-Boys?
And he was like, oh, you're one of the – I got on a Twitter beef. I was like, no fucking way. You're him? And, like, we had this moment. And, like, he's like, hey, man, like, I'm sorry, like, about that. Like, you know, I was like, yeah, me too, dude. I was probably just as much in the wrong. So we, like, dapped it out and it was all good. But it was funny because he's like, so whatever happened with that? I was like, we're still doing it. There was this one time that we were at a bonfire and, like, four football guys roll up.
And one of them used to date my sister, so I already had kind of... I was already kind of salty about it. And... Because he was kind of a douche canoe. So, anyway. I don't even remember what this kid said or what he was doing, but he, like, chirped me or something. Maybe being a sea boy or something like that. And I just go, buddy...
My Snapchat pulls more views than your football game. And I just remember he was like, so bad. So bad. Dude, he was pissed. And at the time, it wasn't true at all. That was the biggest cap ever, dude. He doesn't know how many views my Snapchat is pulling. So at the time, I was just like, man, I hope
This guy doesn't talk about this guy. All right. Prove it. Imagine you're like, fuck. You got a snap score of 12. Yeah. You expect me to believe that? I don't, yeah, I don't even know. Those early cheddar days. I mean, not all of them, but there were certain ones that had a lot of beef with us, and we had beef with them.
We have beef with them. I feel great, dude. Such a weird rivalry. It's like a toothpaste and orange juice conflict. It doesn't make any sense at all. I feel great that, I mean, I had forgotten about it, but meeting that guy and he fucking, like, we both apologized to each other. We dabbed each other up the hand like men.
Went great. I think that's how you could, yeah, like how you could solve a lot of like haters. You know, a lot of haters on the internet are just typing things because they're seeing what you're doing and they don't know you, but then you could meet them for two minutes and they'd be like, all right, you're not that, you know, not that bad. Do people at your work like ever, do they know that you're associated with us? What do they think? Like they love it? No. Or they hate it. No, no, I wouldn't say that at all. I have been fired five times.
I had to all five times say I'm not genuinely associated with them. Older people that are kids will recognize me or kids will be watching. There's a sweet older woman who works at where I'm at. And the other night when I was, I was like helping her out with this robot and she came over and
I was helping this sweet old lady out with her robot. No, she's a boss. She knows how to work this thing better than I do. She's sweet. And so as I'm working on it, she like leans over my shoulder and she's like, so someone tells me you're on YouTube? Tell me about that. Does that suck? No. It's honestly, it's kind of cool. It's fun. It's cool for me to be able to be like...
I'm so involved in two totally different facets of my life. You still get to ride it kind of. No, it doesn't suck at all. I mean, this is kind of on the same topic, but is it hard to see? No. I guess I just don't think about it that way where it's like there's times where it's like,
if I'm grinding on a problem for like weeks on end, it always, it's like that one thing that you put on the shelf and you can look at it and be like, man, that was a lot of fun. That was like a really good time. But like, for me, it's, it's that,
that that's it's what it is it's the it's a memory that's up on a shelf that I can go and revisit whenever I want when somebody asks about it that's an excuse to go like revisit that time and that like the growth that we all experienced from that it's so natural for me to like talk about it with other people and like put such a positive light on it where some people are like oh well I my kid wants to be a youtuber and I don't want
Like, I don't understand this side of it. You're able to speak on that. Oh, yeah. And I usually tell them, like, well, if they got the heart for it, like, do it. Seeing how far you guys have come as a business, as a channel, what you guys have accomplished is so awesome to see. And, like, every time I watch a video, it just makes me proud and brings a huge smile to my face. You unknowingly stepped into a role of dad of the Seaboys. I knowingly stepped into a role.
I just love that. Watching a video back and you're like, I'm proud. Like there's like only other people who do that with our videos are our parents. Yeah. You want to know for us though, as we look at you and we're proud and happy for you because dude, you're doing everything you want. You're an engineer. You got a beautiful home. You got a beautiful dog. You have a beautiful wife. You're just about to, you're soon to be wife. Like you are doing it, dude. Like you, you're living out your,
your ideal life, I think. And we're happy that you are. So let me turn it on its head. Do you guys feel like you are living your ideal life? Yes. Honestly?
To be completely honest with you. But there was a little bit of jealousy in what you have going. Yeah, it is nice, the stability. Would it be nice to be... I'm just saying at least, like, this sounds really dumb coming from me, but, like, to be married in, like, the next three years, yeah, that'd be awesome. And you already got that shit locked down. But take things hand in hand with what you're doing. When I look at you, like, my first thing that I envy is, like, you're...
Able to be accountable, reliable, like you know what's going to be happening. You can have a set schedule and be like, yeah, I'll be available at six o'clock next Tuesday. If someone asked me, what are you doing next Tuesday at six o'clock? I literally have to tell them I don't even know because I have to be literally ready to do something at the drop of the hat, you know, or drop of the dime, whatever the fuck the saying is. But,
But yeah, that's like the one thing when you say like, are you happy? Like with where you're at? I am very happy. I'm very like grateful, but I still want more. Like, and I'm, I'm working towards that, you know, I'm not satisfied as maybe the way to say it. Like I want, I want to keep doing more and like, but are we happy with what we're doing? So yes, yes, this is exactly, I can't imagine doing anything else at least right now. Yeah. Like I'm doing exactly what I want to be doing. Yeah. Yeah.
No, I was going to say, like, dude, honestly, yeah, I love it. I don't love, like, the stress factor of not knowing what I'm going to be doing tomorrow. The uncertainty. Yeah, the uncertainty. But, like, dude, my biggest thing is I get really stressed about not knowing what's next for filming or video purposes. Because, like, dude, I just want to, like, create and make really good videos and
and if we don't necessarily like know what the next video is going to be like that that's like stressful so it's a minor minor but yeah dude honestly i'm pretty fucking happy that's good like to be honest it's like part of the reason that i don't know if i could ever do what you guys do i'm so structured and like i have to have like the not necessarily repeatability but
predictability and like be able to plan like, okay, this is what I'm doing. Whereas like you guys live so in the moment and like, okay, we're going to Montana tomorrow. Pack your bags. We're going. And we do have like nowadays we have a lot better structure to our business and like we do try to plan things out better so you can actually live your life and like
um, you know, have relationships outside of the business, but, uh, it still is, you know, it is still that way, you know, like you don't know if I'm going to have to just,
fucking, you know, go film this thing really quick and ends up taking all day. You just don't know. No matter how structured we are, I swear we always come up, like, one of you guys, or one of us will come up with an idea that's good, right? And we're like, we gotta execute now or soon, you know, whatever. Whether it's a good new giveaway or a video idea or a merch idea, you need to execute right now. If you have an opportunity, you need to take it. Yeah, so then it kind of messes up the feng shui. Totally worth it. Totally do it, but...
You guys are like... Never certain. You are professional calculated risk takers. Exactly. Where you guys... I don't know if I'd give us that much credit, bro. I think we're calculated... Calculated to a point. Yeah. Calculated to a point, but I wouldn't say professional. Yeah. Amateur. I'd say amateur... Calculated amateur risk takers. Sure. Because you guys are always willing...
willing and able to think of something creatively. Like, I cannot speak enough to, like, the creativity that you guys bring as a whole. Like, individually, you're all incredibly creative. When you get all you guys together, it's insane. Like, it's just an idea bubble. I don't know. Maybe you guys don't feel the same way because you spend so much time around each other, but being, like, out of the bubble for a while, it makes me realize, like, whoa, the ideas that you guys can generate is crazy. It is.
It's definitely like when you put us together, it's an interesting dynamic of the collective responsibilities and roles that everyone has. And we'll talk about that in future podcasts about really breaking down what all of us do. We really feed off each other. But yeah, we do feed off of each other. And as soon as I have an idea about, oh, I don't think we're going to do this. So should we talk about the pirate ship?
Oh, yeah. You're just going to do it? That was actually my idea. No, it was mine. I had the dream. I told the dream. Well, you had the dream that we were on a pirate ship. I had the dream and then you said, can we buy a pirate ship? We should buy a pirate ship. You guys are going to buy the pirate ship? Well, we can't get it shipped. We were going to buy a pirate ship. Imagine. That was my idea. To buy a pirate ship. Oh.
But you had the dream. I had the dream. I said, guys, I had a crazy dream last night. I had a dream that we were on a pirate ship, like, rolling around the lake. It was crazy. And then somebody goes, can we buy a pirate ship? Next thing you know, we're trying to find a pirate ship. And then we're spitting out. How much does a pirate ship cost? And we're thinking, like, to be honest, we just saw one at the bachelor party in Wisconsin. We're like, this thing's sick. I bet that was like 50K. It's built on a giant pontoon. Huge. I think we were going to build.
we're going to build a pirate ship. It's going to cost a lot of money, but I'm down. Dude, you can, you can show up on a $300,000 wakeboard boat to the sandbar and
And, I mean, you're the coolest guy out there possibly. But if you show up on a pirate ship, you're dressed in pirate gear with the Pirates of the Caribbean theme song blaring on repeat. We want to get a bunch of speakers and face them outward. It still might happen. It still might happen. You're a god.
you're beside oh i forgot here yeah yeah it'd be next level i know which boat would you want to be on yeah i want to i want to step foot on that pirate ship i want to walk the plank and then we were like guys we'll start making sure the seaboys made me walk the plank oh we have a little guest shop on there dude this is what we're talking about the ideas man they just flow yeah if somebody has a pirate ship for sale just send it expensive as shit the one we were gonna buy was like uh
It was like a pontoon base, and then they built the pirate ship on top. But it was like they couldn't ship it because it would fall apart, basically. And it was in Florida. Yeah, it was in Florida. The problem was, which we didn't realize, we were literally about to fucking send the money. And thank God they told us they couldn't ship it because we looked into it more in depth. Maybe we're not as calculated as we think.
But we looked into it more in depth, and because of how much weight the wood added on top of the pontoon, which was a pretty big pontoon, you were limited to only like six people on this thing. So I was like, imagine. We were thinking like, how much people was it, Ryan?
Was it six? Six people. Oh, actually, I did not know that. I didn't know that. Yeah, we read the fucking description. The fine print. That's something that we don't know. Imagine, though. We would have had this accumulated. We were ready. We were ready. Like, it was so wide. We were going to have to pay for, like, the thing where you have to have it escorted, which is how much money was that a mile? To have two people. It was going to cost, like...
It actually wasn't going to... I mean, it was going to... Three bucks a mile. It was going to cost a lot of money. I think it was going to be like... Nine grand to ship. No, it was like ten or something grand. Ten grand to ship it. That's a lot of money, but in the grand scheme of things, I was like, ten grand for a pirate ship to be shipped up here. That's not that bad. That's not that bad, guys. Oh, my God. But... If money could take care of everything...
It'd be one thing, but some things just aren't possible. Like that was like, no, even, I don't care if you pay $100,000, you can't transport this pontoon converted pirate ship that probably is just waiting to fall apart. As soon as you get going 70 down the interstate, the guy was, pieces of wood are going to be flying off left and right. Yeah, the transporter was just telling us it's not possible. We're like,
We didn't want to take no for an answer. Like, what do you mean? You need more money? But yeah. So yeah, I mean, yeah, I was like, maybe we'll build one luckily or hopefully still find one, but it's like,
Someone listening to this might go like, well, then build it. Just quit talking about it. But I'm like, we can't sacrifice two weeks to just build a pirate ship. Two weeks? It's going to take a lot longer. I'm just saying if five of us sat down five, six days a week and built a pirate ship, I think it would take us two weeks. If anybody else, if any YouTubers out there build a legitimate – I'm talking big pirate ship.
I want some Jack Sparrow. You might have stole our idea. And I have this now. That's true. July 16th, 2021. But what do you guys think? Do you think we...
maybe cut it. I feel like I'm about to, I'm in a sauna right now. It's hot as shit up there. Did you see how much I was sweating? I know. I was thinking, I was getting worried. I was dripping at the beginning. I know. It was the combination of like, it's like your neck glistening. You cool down now, but I was getting stressed out. Like, you were making me sweat because I was watching you sweat. I thought Justin was going to take his shirt off. I was thinking that.
It was going to be a sweat ray. Oh, my God. Well, anyways. Yeah, that was great. Thank you for coming on, dude. You're always welcome on the podcast. Come on anytime you want. Yeah, I'll be back. I'm sure the viewers freaking loved it. For you guys still listening, if you hit the subscribe button and then comment and drop a like on the video, we're going to be selecting one of you guys to win these AirPod Pros.
Also, you've got to follow us on Instagram, SeaboysTV and LifeWideOpenPodcast. Thank you guys so much for watching. We're going to keep doing these, so we'll see you next time. Peace. Hey, if you guys enjoyed, share it with a friend. Maybe they don't know who Seaboys are. Maybe you think that they might enjoy us. Maybe they have a pirate ship. Let's get this thing going. Maybe they have a pirate ship. Yeah. Oh, that's a better thing. If anyone has a pirate ship out there and you can get it here,
Two pairs of beer poppers. We are ready. Yeah, we are ready to pay. I mean, we only pay so much. Easy, easy. Don't tell him that. We still got a bargain with him. Yeah, no, but we want a pirate ship, so we're in the market. Yeah, we got to make it happen now. Until next time. All right, yeah. Peace. I love how we went from happiness in the career to we need a pirate ship.
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