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How Fraudsters Are Bilking the Government Out of Billions of Dollars

2024/11/18
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The hosts discuss the politicization of government efficiency and the general agreement that waste and fraud are bad, but the challenges in defining and addressing them.
  • Government efficiency is being politicized with Elon Musk and Vivek Ramaswamy leading a new department.
  • There is a general consensus that waste and fraud are bad, but definitions can be contentious.
  • The hosts agree that cracking down on waste is a good premise, but the effectiveness of the new department is uncertain.

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After his victory, Donald Trump announced that Elon Musk and Vivek Ramaswamy would be leading up a new Department of Government Efficiency in order to crack down on wasteful, fraudulent spending inside the federal government. Setting aside the question of how effective this particular endeavor will be, the basic premise of cracking down on waste and going after fraudsters should generally be non-controversial. So what does fraud look like? How do companies bilk programs like Medicare and Medicaid for billions of dollars every year? And what can be done about it? On this episode, we speak with Jetson Leder-Luis, an assistant professor at the Questrom School of Business at Boston University and a faculty research fellow at the National Bureau of Economic Research. Jetson walks us through such things as ambulance fraud, identity theft, and other techniques that are used to milk the system. He also explains the tactics and strategies that the government can deploy to reduce billions in wasted spending.

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