Fummer Lovin'
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Hello and welcome to the Jan Arden Podcast. I'm here with Caitlin Groove. Sarah

You know what? It's officially Fummer. It's officially Fummer. That's what I was going to say. It's officially Fummer, which is fun and summer joined together. And it's a Fummer, ladies and gentlemen. I love that, actually. Fummer? Yeah. Oh, my God. It's the best Fummer ever. Name of episode. Yeah. Summer lovin' had me a blast. It's time to stop what you're doing. Sit down. Get your cup of tea. Get your beer. Get your watermelon pop.

Get your bag of sunflower seeds, spits. Guys, it's spit season. I can't wait. It's spit season and you're living in your excavation era, as we learned last week. You know, probably as you guys are listening to this, I am walking the hills of Edinburgh and Scotland. I'm probably out there right now, as you're hearing my voice, with my metal detector. And I'm trying to figure out how to use it because there's all kinds of different beeps you've got to be tuned to. Some of it's metal, some of it's

jewelry, like there's all kinds of things. I got to learn. That's your iPhone dying, Jen. Either that or, I don't know, my last egg dropping. Listen, what are you guys doing? Summer is here. It's here. What's happening? What are some of the things that start shifting in your world? I know for me, just got my patio set up.

I got new furniture. It was a really good deal. So I bought it. It is so effing heavy. I had four grown men yesterday carrying the couch part of it onto my deck. It is so heavy. I'm going to have it forever. It's going to be, if there's a nuclear war, this couch will still be here with diapers hanging on fence posts.

That's like our dining table that's out on our balcony. And we had to disassemble our sliding doors to get it out there when we moved in. And so whoever buys our place is just getting a table because there's no bringing it back inside. It's so heavy and it will be there. It will be the last thing standing along with your couch, Jan. But Will has a water table. So we hooked him up with a water table so he gets to stand out there. I don't know what that is.

Water table is like a sensory play thing for little kids now. And this one is two tiers. So there's like a upper level and all the water trickles out of it like raindrops. And then below it collects and there's like little boats that go around it and things you can play. You can put sand in it too. And just it's fun. Little kids love water. And so he can stand out there with his little chubby croissant feet and just play.

play around in the water and it's... Oh, darn it. Croissant feet. Is that because of the wrinkles? They're all wrinkly and they're so chubby and they just look like croissants to me. I can't handle it. They're going to get eaten. They get eaten all the time. I eat them every day. So then, yeah, so he has his water table. That's a real sign of summer for me. I also, because you sang Summer Lovin', I want to harken to a real life Summer Lovin' situation and I won't out anyone by naming names because I don't want to embarrass them. But...

There were two men.

chum listeners that engaged with me on Instagram, let's say, and I stayed in touch with them. And we just stayed friends. I had them on the air on the show because they're each very like respectable, intelligent, funny, engaging people who had stories to tell around things we were discussing on the show, whether that was dating, whether that was Taylor Swift, whether that was dining out, whether it was travel, whatever it was, there was a reason to have them on the show. So we stayed in touch and, uh,

I just kept seeing them both posting about their dating life and like things I just started gleaning from DMing and I just kind of got this overwhelming feeling like I think they'd make kind of a cute couple like I was like I don't know I just feel like there's something about these two people that I'm like I kind of did you hook them up

I did. I made a love match with two random chum listeners. I mean, I don't know if it's actually a love match, but I will say that they have now been talking and have a date in real life and like have hit it off. That's pretty great. That's cool. It isn't that so cool. And they're just both like, they both usually, you know, it's the story of right now where you meet everyone on a dating app. So to have, to have them know me from, um,

the radio and then stay in touch on Instagram and then be introduced to each other because I was like guys I feel like you kind of might get along even if it was just that's cute so anyways I'm

I'm going to update you, but that's summer loving. Speaking of summer loving, it is golf season. Are you talking about the eight hour golf dates, right? Are you dating? I think I told you guys this or a little bit about this at dinner. So my accountant, I was dropping off some women in media merch to her because I drove her nuts during tax season. It was just a little thank you. And she's like, oh, I'm actually not at home. Like come to this house.

And I had been gardening all day. I was disgusting. I was, I guess there's a theme with me being the stinky kid. And I was in no situation where I should meet a man. Okay. We'll just premise it with that. So I met her husband, the brother, the in-laws. I met the entire family that day. And her two daughters were like, do you have a boyfriend? Why don't you have a boyfriend? Do you have kids? It was like all of the 21 questions. And I was like,

the husband's brother was laughing. So then the mom and the dad are looking at each other like they want to hook us up, right?

Oh, so that night, like my accountant did ask me, like, can I send him your phone number? And I was like, well, tell me a little bit about this guy first, at least like, you know, I just I saw he had a leg full of tattoos or I think it was an arm. I can't even remember. But I was like, that seems like my kind of guy. And later that night, I got a message that said, guess you didn't plan on meeting the family before the first date.

So have y'all gone out? We are talking about going golfing. Okay. Because there was like a pre-audition in this sense. I'm not as nervous as I normally would be.

Yeah, I like that. I think that that is lost in like set up culture doesn't seem to be as prevalent now because of dating apps. And I just think people are increasingly antisocial. And it just felt heartwarming and whimsical to set people up. And I think it's a nice feeling and it's the best. I would rather it too as a single person. I think so too. Yeah. So you like that a bit. I don't want a dating app. I want it to be vetted from someone I know or me. Like when you've already like seen them operating in an environment and you're like,

Okay. I see how you are. Maybe I'll consider that. I would be mortified, mortified if someone sent me up. Just mortified. You wouldn't know though. No, no, no. I'd be like, I'd be like, don't ever fucking do that to me again. Don't invite people that I don't know. No, I would be, I know I sound really cynical and awful, but

but I do not want to go to a dinner at somebody's house. And my friends know this about me. Okay, come for dinner tonight, but they're having, I think you've met her before, but you've not met her husband. Like, is that okay? People always check to see my comfort level because I'm not good with that stuff. That's fair. You want like no new friends. So I'm always warned. Like I don't go to parties where I don't know people. I just don't. And I think...

Everyone's different, but that's just what I can manage. I just... At this stage in life, like, I feel like, you

you know, my, my comfort level with that is like very open. I think that's great. Anyway. Interesting. I'll keep you in mind. Oh yeah. I'm kind of good at this. I'll keep you in mind too. I mean, I've never, I don't know if I've ever been a matchmaker. I don't know if I've ever done that. I don't think I've ever, I don't, I don't think I have not consciously. I've tried and failed. My friends, I've done friend,

I have introduced friends to friends that has been so great. I have so many times my friends will say, oh my God, I met those guys through you and now we go to freaking...

you know, blah, blah, blah, three times a year. It's just like, oh my God, I didn't know you guys were in touch. It's great. So friend stuff, I'm good at. Okay, let's pivot. I want to hear, like you guys both have summer vacations booked. Let's hear it. Well, it's not so much a summer vacation. I am going, the Edinburgh thing, I'm probably there right now as I'm talking to you.

And other than that, I am home all summer. I've got a few summer festivals. I'm going to see Sarah McLachlan. Is it the Budweiser stage in Toronto? Wait, when are you going to see Sarah McLachlan in Toronto? When is that? I'm flying in on the 18th. By the way, congrats. She was announced as an inductee into the Songwriters Hall of Fame. That's really friggin' awesome.

Blue Rodeo and I forget who else there was. But I'm flying to Toronto on the 18th. This concert's the 19th. I'm sure there might be a few tickets, but I think it's at that Budweiser Bowl. What is that called? It used to be the Molson Amphitheater. Now it's Budweiser Stage.

I love it because I can ride my bike there and not deal with any Toronto traffic. I love it because that's where I originally saw her perform for Lilith Fair. I had lawn tickets at the Molson Amphitheater to see Lilith Fair, and I loved it. It's the 30th anniversary of Fumbling Towards Ecstasy. No, it is not 30. That album is not 30 years old. Yeah, yeah, I'm going. Caitlin, maybe we need to go on the lawns that day. Maybe we need to buy some lawn tickets. My hips can't handle lawn seats anymore. I'll bring you a blankie in the morning.

I need a chair. I need at the very least, I require furniture. Actually, I hit Sarah up for tickets. I didn't even buy them. I had Chris. I'm like, can you phone Sarah's office? Can you get ahold of somebody? I need tickets to go. I just can't be arsed to, but you know what? I am. I'll pay her back in a different way. I'll do social media and I'll, I'll cheer really loud and I'll, I'll do all that. What is your favorite? Like, okay. Not just one of the big hits, but do you have like a, a sleeper favorite Sarah McLaughlin song?

Oh my God. I love so many of her songs. I know it's hard to pick. I just love them all. Sweet surrender hits for me. Sweet surrender. Sweet surrender is amazing. Production value on that alone. It was sounded so cool at the time. And I will be the one to hold you down. Kiss you so hard. I'll take your breath away. I know. What the F? It's a horny song. Yeah.

I love that album so much. And after I... She's doing a thing where I think they have jumbotrons and like there's a film aspect to it and cameras. So I think during Ice Cream, she on the Instagram thing, she was going, if you're singing along to Ice Cream, you might end up on the jumbotron or something. So...

You know, make sure you're singing along. But everyone sings at the top of their lungs. They should do the same thing with Sweet Surrender. And at that line, they should just do kiss cams of everyone holding someone down and kissing them.

She just looks so good. She looks after herself. She looks really happy. And she was on in the very early days of the podcast. No, when she was on with us. Yes. Let's have her back immediately. I need her current skincare and beauty regime. I think it's called water and exercise. And she legitimately goes swimming in like a mountain spring near her house. In BC. Yeah. Yeah. In BC.

I imagine her like hanging out with like water nymphs and fairies. I think she knows secrets of the woods. And I think she's a fucking mermaid is what she is. She's, she's so cool. I love Sarah McLachlan. Okay. Why don't you marry her? Anyway, Caitlin, you said you have some trips planned. I do have trips planned. I've got trips. I've got concerts. Uh, I'm going to see a comedian named Chris Fleming at the Royal. Um, he's one of my faves. Um,

Who else am I going to see? Oh, I'm going to see Kurt Weill. Probably one of my very favorite singers of all time, Kurt Weill. So I'm also going to go see him. I'm trying to think of what other concerts. I want to go to that second Neil. There's going to be a second Neil Young show. Cause I missed the first one at Budweiser stage. Budweiser stage. Okay. When's that? July, I think.

I missed that one too. I missed him and Sarah McLachlan. What a lousy Canadian I am. Okay. I'm putting these both down in my little notebook. So yeah. Okay. So I have that. I go to East every summer to see, I have family in Prince of Rhode Island and Kyle is from Halifax. So we go out East. We're bringing Will. We'll do Halifax. We'll do PEI. We will definitely have cow's ice cream. I have ice cream on the brain. Clams. And yeah, go clam digging, pick some strawberries, go to the beach. That's almost like mudlarking.

It really is when you think about it. Sometimes a clam spits at you to be like, yeah, because you know what? It's begging you to stay alive. You're right. I'm sorry. I'm not saying I eat them, but I will dig them up. And like, you know, when I was a kid, I'd muck about with them. I wasn't eating clams as a child. You throw them back in. I don't know what my grandfather would have done with them. He probably he probably ate them. I didn't eat them. I wasn't into clams as a child. Oh,

I mean, he's from PEI. So no, I'm teasing. He's mostly like, they're all barnacles. And I say this with love. I won't, I have no comment. I'm totally teasing you. And I think that's very whimsical for it to send a kid out clam digging and my galoshes. Yeah. So, yeah. So going out East, uh, going to Prince Edward County with friends for three nights, we're going to a little area of Ontario called tiny beach. Um,

uh, on Georgia and Bay. That's near my cottage. Oh, is it? Oh my gosh. Okay. Yeah. So going there for a few nights also with some friends. And then it is, I don't know how this happened, but it is Kyle and I's 10 year anniversary in September. Somehow we've been married for 10 years and we are going to upstate New York. We're going to go to Hudson Valley and we're staying at a really beautiful place there called Ines. Um,

It's a resort and we're going to drive and have a road trip, which we both really enjoy. I love that topography. It kind of reminds me of the Eastern townships of Quebec and they have great restaurants and great wine and just, it's, you know, it's wonderful. So we're going to go there and unplug for a bit. So that's the plan. I was going to try to go to Europe, but like, I just, I can't wrap my head around parenting in Europe. I don't know why. Yeah. Don't do it when you do it, when you feel comfortable and when you feel confident. And when Will can remember it. You will.

will know. I think to go against your instincts is always such a bad idea. Like, oh, we knew we shouldn't have gone. We didn't feel good about going, but we went anyway. And I got in the elevator with the three guys with the briefcase and I knew I shouldn't have done it.

Now I'm in the trunk of a car. It's called an analogy guys. Like this is getting a little intuition. No, I mean it. Women in particular override that all the time. Oh, I'm being silly. Oh, I'm being this. No, don't get in the elevator. Don't walk down the street. Don't go. If you're, if you're walking towards your car and you fucking feel weird about it, walk back to where you're going and get someone to walk with you. Stop overriding your intuition. Okay.

I agree. That's the Jan Arden podcast. Thank you for listening. And it's our summer edition, which is lighthearted and filled with whimsy. If we had a count on how many times between the two of you, you've said whimsical in the last two episodes. Whimsical is my word. It's my mission statement. It's what I'm dragging forward with me in my life. So if I'm saying it a lot, I am all over whimsical, like a butt on a bike seat.

That's my plan for the summer, bike riding everywhere, all the time. We are just going to take a real quick break. We're going to be right back. Don't go away. You're listening to the Jan Arden Podcast. How do you eat differently in the summertime? I know how I eat differently, but I want to hear from you guys. It's just like ice cream incorporated into every meal, really. No, come on.

When I go on my bike rides, I literally am looking for the ice cream truck. I don't want to go to a shop. I want the ice cream truck ice cream. I know that might upset you at some points, but I just find like some nostalgia in that ice cream truck. Yeah. But how do you, how does your eating different? You've got to have nutrition in your life. Okay. Salads. I really like salads in the summer. In the winter, I'm not a salad person. I would rather do like my cooking in the oven and whatever.

all of that. In the summer, I'm like a fresh salad with fruit and my protein. I hate fruit in a salad. Really? No, I don't want a strawberry in a fucking salad. I don't want a blueberry in a salad. I want an apple. Granny Smith? I don't even want a cranberry in a salad. Everyone has weird things sometimes with textures and sometimes those are fruits. Sometimes people don't want sweet and savory together. I like really love it. I have to say I'm with Jan on blueberries. Oh,

I don't need a strawberry. I don't need a berry in a salad. I tend to stick to the stone fruit or an apple. Nuts, ham parts. I love all that stuff. Sesame seeds, crunchy walnuts. I've been eating walnuts like a maniac lately because apparently they are the best nut you can eat. They are the king of the nut world. There's something to do with a walnut. You're supposed to eat them. I saw it on Instagram. Walnuts are a great source of

alpha-linolenic acid. And selenium. And omega-3 fatty acids, important for reducing inflammation. In fact, it is the only nut significantly high in these omega-3 fatty acids, so the anti-inflammatory compounds may reduce the risk of heart disease. Well, you learned it here. Look at that. Thank you. Thank you, walnuts.

But oh, summer, I am all over lettuce wraps and making all kinds of mixtures for lettuce wraps. Sometimes I'll do like a lentil, like an oriental lentil.

With sesame seeds and green onion and bamboo shoots. Water chestnut. Water chestnuts are the, they are the bomb. They're good. There's a tofu company and I forget the name of it, dang it, but they do a pre-marinated like a miso, like a spicy miso tofu and you kind of like jam it. Yeah. Yeah. And then you add a bunch of mushrooms and water chestnuts and green onions and it makes a mean lettuce wrap, Jan. You would really enjoy it. Challenge actually for the show notes.

Recipe? A summer recipe. Consider it done. And I kind of want the popsicle recipe that you mentioned last episode would be great. Easy. I'll do the popsicle recipe. We'll put it on the website, but link it in our show notes. Okay, great. And then the other part of this challenge, which I feel like you guys are down for...

Our summer playlist. I mean, you started singing at the top of this episode one of your favorite songs that ended up on last year's Gin Art and Summer Jams playlist, but it's time for 2024's playlist. There's so many good songs. Oh my gosh, there's so many great songs. Let's also...

Open it up to listeners. Okay. So if you send in a voice note with your song. Yeah, it has to be a voice note, damn it. Yeah. Yeah, you need to explain a little bit. Why is it a great summer song? What memory does it evoke for you?

Okay, so it's not just like songs we're listening to right now this summer, or can it be all? It can be though. I think it can be all because I know you have some songs on your playlist that you're like, oh, I'm really into this right now, but I love this one from the 90s. Like whatever you want. I feel like Bob Seger to me is synonymous with drinking on a dock. So I like love that. But also right now I'm really listening to a lot of dance music. So it's going to be a bit jarring on my end, but that's fine. Okay, no, that's totally fine. Jan, what are you listening to right now?

What am I listening to right now? I'm listening to Agnes O'Bell, just the way it sounds, O-B-E-L. I love her so much. I wouldn't say she's summer, but I listen to her constantly. I'm doing a lot of Dua Lipa. Dua Lipa? Am I saying it right? Dua Lipa. Dua Lipa. Sorry. Sorry. Marilyn called her Dewey Lupe just as a joke on the air, and so it was really close to that. Dua Lipa. Dua Lipa. There we go. What did I say? Dua Lipa?

Dua Lupa. Dua Lupa. Kind of close. But we knew who I was talking about. Yes, we did. Immediately. Immediately. I always pull out the Grease soundtrack during the summer. I can't help myself. I just, you know, even 42 years later, it's still so great. I have it on vinyl. I'm obsessed. Yes. It's really cool. That's a weird thing you might not have known about me. I like me a little Casey Musgraves in the summertime. We have tickets to the show in Toronto.

Yes, we do. I forgot about that. Was she coming there? When's she coming? In the fall. It's going in my notes now along with Sarah McLachlan and Neil Young. She doesn't even know what she's got tickets to. I know. I'm like, remember? We're going to this. Anyway. I don't know. I'm sure I've missed some concerts, guaranteed. There's so much music in Toronto. So much music. Chris and I are going to see Pink in August in Edmonton. Oh, that'll be so fun. At the Coliseum. So he's in charge of tickets. He's on his way. Today he leaves Canada.

He's going to London today. He's going with his friend and he needs a break. He's been working his butt off with me. So they're going to be a few days in London. And then there, you know how you enter those lotteries for the Taylor Swift tickets? Yeah. Did he win? Well, he got some for Lyon, France. Like he entered 10 places. He's like, I don't give a crap. I will get my ass there somehow. Well, he got Lyon. Wow.

And he's always got his outfit picked out. It's so great. I can't wait. He's got this really cool outfit. He's got like really high shoes. He's going to be like six foot six. The poor girls behind him are just going to be like, aww.

But yeah, he's off to go see that. I'm not sure where the concert is, but. Hey, what about summer performance venues? Like I do love Budweiser stage because it's on the water, but you've been everywhere. Where's. I love a vineyard. I love a vineyard. Jackson Triggs has an outdoor vineyard. Red Rocks is unbelievable. It blew my mind last summer. I've never gone. I really want to go. I wanted to see Rufus DeSoul play there and I missed out. Oh,

So one in Alberta is a very little known thing. They're known for doing the Passion of Christ every year. It's a huge religious play that encompasses it. No, it is literally reenacting Jesus taking the crucifix up onto this hill. It's a massive outdoor venue. Like they hammer a man up and he's like, oh. I don't know. It's in the Badlands. I think you're being a little dramatic right now. I don't think anyone gets hammered, but it's a reenactment of the Passion of Christ.

Okay. Anyway, it's an outdoor music venue. I've played there once and it is unbelievable. You're in the Badlands. You're basically in a mini Grand Canyon in Drumheller. Cool. Very cool. Oh, that's where you always take people for the day, isn't it? When you're like planning a road trip? I always take people to Drumheller. It's one of the best dinosaur palaeontology things in the world.

She's just like, I'm done with this. I'm not even trying. I'm just done. I don't need it. You know the word I mean. Paleontology. There we go. There you go. Dua Lipa. Paleontological. Dua Lipa. Dua Lipa also, I want to point out, has an actual publication that she puts out. I think it's like a monthly publication. It's sort of akin to a zine, but not regular. Online? Online.

Yeah. Online. I don't know if hard copies are available. They should be, but she really specializes in travel because she said that she plans every part of her travel around dining and culture. She loves to travel so much. And, um, I would highly recommend following along and if you were going somewhere. Traveling with money and traveling with no money are two very different things. I feel like she tries to make it accessible for like fans and stuff though. Like it's not like for like

It's not for like, you know, private jet people like her. Where can I go on points? Yeah, yeah, exactly. But I think she was on a recent podcast that I listened to talking about how much she loves to travel in the summer and where her like favorite hidden gem is. And she said Southern Albania. Oh, I thought it was going to be Alberta. I was like, what? Albania is supposed to be really great. Yeah. I was like, okay.

Like there's a whole bunch of Latvia, Lithuania, like there's all that kind of the upper Mediterranean stuff that is very not, it's not really on the tip of everybody's tongue. But traveling through there, my friend went on a bike trip, Sarah, to Slovenia. Oh,

last year. She said it was the most beautiful play she has ever set foot on in the world. She goes, it was like Italy 2.0. Oh my God. Is this someone that plays in your golf tournament that I can ask a million questions to? My friend Teresa, who is going, who's going to be with me in Edinburgh in Scotland. Okay. Um,

Yeah, we're going together. So she went with me and my other two friends to Iceland last year. Okay, so I haven't met her. No, she doesn't golf. Teresa's not very athletic. Okay. Although she's, yes, she is. She's more athletic than me. She can cycle for like 100 miles a day and walk the freaking Cabot Trail in three hours. You know, that's what she does. I want to do that. That's on my list too. I really want to walk the Cabot Trail. She has done the Cabot Trail in Nova Scotia.

So Teresa is quite athletic actually. She is. In summation. My sister is going to the East Coast to celebrate her anniversary of her wedding. Is that coming up already? Yeah. Yeah. Oh.

This week is the one year anniversary. Blessed to be in a new phase of life. Anyway, when they go out east, like they were talking about all the things that they're going to do and they decide on Newfoundland. And I was like, oh, you're going to get screeched in. And she's like, no, I am not. I'm like, you walk into any bar there, you will be screeched in. Just wait. Wait, she doesn't want to be screeched in? This is what I'm saying. It's a part of the experience. You can't be a stick in the mud about it. Have you both been screeched in? I've been screeched in and it was when I was still drinking back in the day and it was 100 proof.

Yeah. Oh yeah. But I didn't kiss, I didn't kiss a fish because the cod embargo was still on. You couldn't,

no there was no cod anywhere you didn't have to kiss a fish because there was a trade embargo I kissed I kissed it no it was the cod you couldn't do you couldn't fish cod it was they had stopped fishing it it was endangered you could cod fishing was done what a moment in time I know I'm much older than you and then I kissed a wooden something or other it could have been a dildo I don't know

It looked like a wooden phallic something of some kind. I don't remember much of the... Better for the environment, but probably not where he wants splinters. Just saying.

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Listen, another thing I'm going to be doing this summer is I'm going to just be wearing my Wonder Bra on my deck. I'm just going to be out there in my Wonder Bra underpants and bra. Get the girls out? I'm going to have support where there's no wires poking me because Wonder Bra does a freaking great job of this. So there's nothing poking under your armpit. Yeah, I'm going to be out there. I might use it as a bathing suit. I might just...

Go to hell with it. This fits me better than anything else. I'm going to be in my wonder bra and I'll be on the deck and I'm going to be waving at people as they go by. It's a wonder bra. Yes. As you can tell, we have a new sponsor. We have a new sponsor. But the Jen Arden podcast. Thanks. Wonder bra. And what a fantastic price point. If you have been out bra shopping lately, you're going to be able to get a new one.

it can sink you. You won't be able to have your summer margaritas because you just spent $120 on a bra. And I'm not saying that's a terrible thing. Wonder Bra has so many great price points. You will find something fantastic in your price range that is the style that you want. If you like lacy, I like a flat surface. I like a smooth t-shirt-y type bra. I want lots of support. I don't like an underwire, but they have this bra. You don't even feel it.

It's just fantastic. Okay, wait, I have a question. And this was a debate that happened live on the air when I was a chum between myself and future guests on the podcast, Meredith Shaw. And we both made this realization. Okay. When you guys put your bra on, how do you put it on? Do you fasten it? Do you reach behind and fasten it back? I can't do the behind. So you do it at the front and then shimmy the bra around? Yep. Okay. Meredith does that too. And neither of us knew at the time that the other was even an option. Okay.

So we're talking on the air and she's talking about putting her bra on and I'm talking about putting my bra on and I'm like, wait, how are you, why are you putting it on at the front? And then she's like, why are you putting it on at the back? And I was like, what has happened? And I didn't realize that anyone put it on at the front and she didn't realize that anyone put it on at the back. And then we had a poll and it was an even split of our listeners who texted in shimmying around or just reaching behind. My arms are too short. I can't reach behind like that. No, I can't.

I can't do it. Sarah became a mom in this moment. And then you have to lean over. Once you do have your boobs in the cups, lean over, grab your boob, pull it forward, get it in the cup, especially if you've got bigger boobs. If you've got the D, the double Ds, and you know what size, don't even worry what your effing size is. And if you were double D on something, you might be a triple D or

Or here's a whole mind-blowing thing. You might be a G. You just want it to fit well. Some women will do a smaller bra just because of the number. No, I'm getting into that 34C. I don't give a shit. They should be a 36DD. I don't care what the size is as long as it's comfortable. But like I said, I'm going to be out in my wonder bra. I'm going to be on my deck. They have such beautiful bras.

so many different color choices that literally people would think it was a bathing suit. So if I wanted to do my wonder bra with a pair of sports shorts out on a summer holiday by Jesus, I'm going to do it. Just wonder bra. Welcome to the Jan Arden podcast family. We are super thrilled to have you on. It's all about women. It's all about feeling comfortable no matter what size you are, tall, short,

I don't care. There's something for everybody. And I mean that. And once again, the price point, you will find something that suits your pocketbook, something that's comfortable, long lasting. And I've got a wonder bra on right now.

God strike me dead. But did we finish the food conversation? Like, do you guys do those swaps? We're going to put some recipes on the show notes for sure this episode. So barbecuing. Are you guys good barbecuers? I want to talk about, okay. Veggies. I love a grilled corn. I love squash. I love all that stuff. Zucchini, eggplants.

Eggplant, peppers. I love doing stuffed peppers on the barbecue. I love, I mean, I do also make some meat, which we won't talk about, but I like the barbecue for like, it's a great way to prep for the week where your like leftovers don't taste like shit.

It's like good leftovers. I like a grilled shrimp. I'm not mad at a grilled shrimp. Like a shrimp skewer I'm into. Well, some people, it's just barbecue, barbecue, barbecue. And a lot of people have the Traeger grills where they do smoking. Oh, yeah. You can smoke pies and you can smoke bread. Like smokers aren't what you think they are. You can do all kinds of stuff. Yes. People do all kinds of desserts. Listen, ask Traeger. They need to call us. What?

I don't know about a smoked pie, but okay. I do a lot of grilling of vegetables out there. Lots of stuff. You can grill tofu. You can grill seitan. I love a veggie dog. I love my Beyond Meat hamburgers out there. I mean, hamburger season, I love me a...

A plant-based hamburger, man. And they have so many great ones now. I would say predominantly in the summer, I'm a salad girl. And so that's mostly what I eat. I'm trying to think if I have much else. No, it's mostly just salads. I do a ton of fruit. Give me fruit. Rhubarb crumbles easily.

Oh, the dessert of summer. Potato salad. Oh, I do like potato salad too. I love a potato salad. My eating changes dramatically in the summertime because I have a massive garden. Also tacos. I love tacos. Tacos are good anytime. Yeah. Tacos all year. Yeah. Summer food is, is so good.

Because when it comes around, you're really done, I find, with winter food. Like when summer comes around, I'm so done with winter and so thrilled to be in summer clothing. I'm thrilled to be listening to summer music and eating summer food and sitting in a park. And for me, my alcohol consumption completely changes. Red wine, who is she? I don't know her anymore. I don't have red wine the second that...

summer hits. I'm like a spritzer girl. I will have like a vodka soda. I love cottage Springs, like the peach flavored. Yeah. So good. Yeah.

But also an ice cold beer at a baseball game. Oh my God. Of course. Same, same here. Shout out to Corona who has a zero percent alcohol, the Corona sun. It has vitamin D in it. It is one of the best de-alcoholized beers I've ever drank in my life. So you pop a lime in there. Yeah. Yeah. Lime Corona. No, no alcohol Corona.

It is fantastic. Got me through a period of not being able to drink due to pregnancy. I'll tell you that because you're at the cottage and you don't want to miss out, but you, you know. Yeah. Listen, before we go, and thank you for listening, everybody. You can hit subscribe. We will show up in your inbox week after week. You won't have to go searching. You can give us five stars.

And you can give us a little rating. That helps people find us too. And you can write us a little review if you want to, or leave us a voice note. Jan Arden Pod is our handle on all the socials. You can find us there any time. Reminder, get on board for the summertime playlist. We're going to call it the Jan Arden Pod Summer Playlist. How inventive is that? Hey? Well, we could just use the name from last year, Jan Summer Jams.

Why don't you just shove it up? Okay, no, that's good. That's a good one too. Okay, listen, as we leave, Caitlin brought us this. According to a new survey, this is a fun way to go out of the show. Okay. By Talker Research, and this is more about the Americans than us, but I think we are joined at the goddamn hip, and I think things that bug them bug us too. So these are the things that have annoyed Americans slash Canadians just above them in recent months.

Caitlin, go. Tell us what the hell they are. I'm going to start at number 20 and we're going to work our way up to number one. Okay. So coming in at number 20, text language or abbreviations. We're done with them. We don't like them. People don't want to hear it. They don't like it. They want you to- Use the full. Apparently. Movies being too dark. Amen, sister.

tell it to me yeah say it louder talker research because it drives me nuts and movies are way too long they're way way way too long way too that's why the memorial day weekend slumped because nobody wants to go see a three and a half hour long nope they don't uh parking yeah that's number 18 that annoys everyone 17 tech billionaires that should be higher but 12 of people they can kiss my ass

And then 16, computer issues. Always. Yes, from tech billionaires to tech support. Everyone can agree we don't like them. 15, self-checkouts.

I hate self-checkouts. I hate them. I freaking hate them so much. Go away. I'm divided. They are so loud. Like as someone who works in audio, I'm like at the back of the store and I can hear the freaking self-checkout talking. I always need help. I always hit the help button. You do? Don't you sometimes just anti-socially want to buy tampons or am I the only one where sometimes I am a post-menopausal woman? Good luck with that. It

It's going to be hell. Have fun. It's better with condoms. Moving on. Okay. All righty. Moving right along to number 14 and this you sick idiots. I completely disagree with it's reality TV and I won't have it. We're not going to have you crush our Caitlin with this outrageous thing on your list. By the way, Lisa Vanderpump is on call her daddy this week. Oh, like I haven't already listened. Okay. Okay.

Good. Number 13, artificial intelligence. Okay. Well, yeah, it's going to slowly take over the world and eat our souls. So I'm in agreement with that one. Yep. 12 products locked behind plastic on the shelves. Yes. Razor blades. Why is that behind a fucking locked cabinet? And some probiotics. I know I have,

like we just want nice gut health. What Galen Weston don't put this, don't lock this up for us. Okay. The number, um, number 11 is ticket prices. Amen. Yes, absolutely. They're in court with ticket master. We'll have updates on that soon. Biden is taking on hidden fees as a way to curb, um, corporate greed because he, they can't really do anything about government. Like governments really can't do much about inflation effectively, as we all know. So anyways, I want to say, if you want to look into that, there's some stuff going on there in the U S ah, number 11,

Number 10, TV volume being too loud. When they don't mix things properly between the show you're watching and then the ads that come blaring through the screen, I just, I can't deal with it. Ads are always louder. I always have to hit mute. It's so stupid. It's been like that forever. This is a survey by Talker Research, things that have annoyed Americans slash Canadians in recent months. So we are on number nine. This is, we're in the top 10 now, everyone. Okay. Music you don't like.

Hell yeah. When you don't like the music that's playing somewhere, nothing is more annoying to you. I just, that. Yeah. My dad had never liked music in a restaurant from the time I was born. Can you turn that goddamn music down?

That was my life. I once went to a restaurant and they had someone who obviously had hooked their phone up to the aux playing into the entire restaurant and they didn't pay for Spotify premium. And so we were all sitting in a massive restaurant in downtown Toronto, listening to Spotify ads. It's the most embarrassing woman of all time. Okay. Number eight on that note, tipping culture.

Tipping culture has run amok. And when you flip an iPad around and show me that I'm expected to pay, you know, 20% on groceries or whatever I've just picked up from a market and picked it, got it myself off the shelf. You're not getting anything out of me.

Okay. Number seven, social media trends. Whatever they are. I mean, spinning your dog around while filming his asshole. I don't know. What is a social media? We're not exactly trending. We're just, we're just here. I follow the trends, but I'm not cracking an egg on my baby's head. I think that's unwell behavior.

Number six, customer service or lack thereof. Yeah, I was going to say what customer service? Yeah, they're like, oh, longer than normal wait times. It said longer than normal wait times at most places for like five years. Maybe you need to hire more customer service representatives. Just saying. Number five, the weather. All right. I don't know.

Well, it's flooding everywhere. If I see one more dog fucking float down an overgrown river, I'm literally going to sob myself into tomorrow. I haven't seen this on my algorithm. Okay, well, that would bother me. Number four, crowds. Yes. Hate them. Can't stand a crowd. That's why I leave early from coffee. I'm short. Can't be in a crowd. If I can't do my bra up from the back, I certainly can't be in a crowd. All right. Number three. Number three, someone else's driving habits.

Oh, yeah. I try so hard to be friendly to people. I try so hard to let them in. I try and wave all the time. You just have to go. I'm out there trying, folks. And I'm the Uber passenger. And so nothing will drive me more insane than someone who doesn't know the way around the city and then gets upset when I tell them about a route because I usually... Top two. Top two. Number two. Two. Politicians.

fucking ding-dongs no one likes them no one likes them i don't even know what they're thinking red hat blue hat orange hat we need more women in politics and i i will the only person i'll take off is danielle smith she should not be in politics i'll take her off the list she's a ding-dong but there we do need more women we need danielle steel because she could do it danielle steel i love she's an author yeah

I used to think it was Daniel Steele. I thought it was a guy, but it's not. Yeah. That was just a horny fella. Okay. And number one. Number one. Drum roll. Grocery prices. Of frigging course it's grocery prices. Yeah. Of course. Of course. I bet you Galen Weston really regrets making himself the face of that business.

Because like no one knows who the head of Sobeys is. How much money do you need? How much money do you need to make off asparagus? How much money do you need to make off peanut butter? How much money do you need to make off a package of spaghetti? Guys, come on. It's awful. Mom.

My father used to work in packaged goods. And he said back in the 80s when inflation is skyrocketing, he said we at the packaged goods companies would push it as hard as we could to get away with price increases that we felt the public could stomach. So it is 1000% corporate greed. I don't want to hear some song and dance about like, oh, Russian oil prices, shut up. That might account for a little bit of it. But the historic highs that we are seeing for grocery prices, no.

Absolutely not. And you're the number one thing annoying people right now. So you really want to reconsider that. And in the spirit of summer,

have a garden, grow some of your own shit. Gardens are fun. And you know what? If you're, if you have a little balcony at your apartment, you wouldn't, you would blow your mind how you can grow potatoes in an upright thing. It's really super easy. Yeah. Go online. You carrots are super easy. All your herbs. You never have to pay fucking $18 for basil again. You don't, you can grow it in a second. You can grow it and you can buy a little basil plant for two

like a dollar 99 in two weeks, it'll be giant. You'll pinch off at all summer long. Anyway, that's all the time we have. Wait, last but not least, have you heard of the, um, the new company that's coming in with odd looking produce called odd bunch Canada?

No. Okay. So it says fresh, odd looking produce delivered to your door for less than the store. And they deliver like the wonky looking fruit that like people don't buy. And that like, well, if I show up at your door, don't be surprised if they deliver me, get ready. We'll have a great time. You just show up in a box. They should sponsor us. And that should be our first activation. You wanted a weird looking fruit delivered. Here I am in my wonder bra.

In my wonder bra. That's amazing content integration and I'm going to DM them. Anyways, Oddbunch Canada. Well, thank you for listening to the Jan Arden podcast. Caitlin Green, Sarah Burke. I'm so proud of these women. You have no idea. They're out there crushing it all the time. And we love doing this podcast. And we love you for listening. Well, we just feel really grateful. We're getting, you know,

More reach all the time. Thanks to all of you guys who've been watching it on YouTube. I'm sorry that I always look so terrible. I made an effort today. I thought I'm just straightening. You guys look so cute and so adorable. Listen, have lots of fun. We will talk to you next week. We got Meredith Shaw next week. Yes, Meredith Shaw is going to be with us. And I can't wait to hear about her summer fashion tips and how she feels about cutoff shorts.

shorts that the pockets are longer than the shorts. We'll see you next time. Thanks for listening. Leave us a DM. Totally do. This podcast is distributed by the Women in Media Podcast Network. Find out more at womeninmedia.network.