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We are here. It's not ready yet. I feel self-conscious about it. So much so that I had to mention it. Yeah, it's not great. You guys didn't know shit. It's not great. Did you? You didn't know that we weren't ready. I can't wait for them to watch the progression. Yes. Of the studio. You're here along for the ride with us on the journey, as you have been since day one, as a matter of fact. Nice segue. That's kind of what we're doing here.
We are celebrating our one-year anniversary of putting out the first episode. Right. Yes. Happy anniversary, Psychopedia! Use a little confetti, if you can, on the screen. Okay.
I can't believe it. I really, truly can't believe it's been a year. It's actually already been a year because we started recording, obviously, before we brought out the first episode. But March 14th last year, our first episode came out and it was Father Hans Schmidt, the story where, if you remember correctly, the man cut off the head of a chicken and put it on the tip of his penis. He did do that. Yes, he did. How you doing? And I've been hooked ever since. Yep.
I had you at chicken head. You had me at slaughterhouse. Right. Oh, meet me at the slaughterhouse was the name of the episode. Yep. We should have a fucking award for our titles. The titles, guys, I don't think you realize we put a lot of work into those titles. Yeah, like at least three to four minutes.
A lot of different iterations, a lot of texting, a lot of, you know. Do people think I now pronounce you husband and daughter, you may kill the bride just happens out of nowhere? Right. Because it doesn't. It does not. I'll tell you that. That was a joint effort. For real.
For real. Yeah. Big time. So yeah, we're here today to celebrate our one-year anniversary of having the podcast be out. And to do that, we did this on Patreon, which by the way, patreon.com slash psychopedia pod for episodes of Unhinged where I'm in charge, she's not, and it's fun for me. It's fun for me too. You are actually, I constantly refer to you as trying to keep up. Yeah. You keep up just fine. I'm there. You're doing great. First episode I called you, I was not kind. You weren't? Well...
It wasn't the first episode. No, it wasn't. It was the third. The Barbie episode. The Barbie episode. Well, anybody would have had a tough time with that. I barely survived. Well, what do you expect? You put me in a movie situation where I'm out in Montauk, first of all, so I'm hyped up on vacation vibes. And then you put Ryan Gosling in a movie that is perfect. Yep, sure. Great movie. Great. For what it was. Okay, okay.
Okay. For what it was, it was... Agree to disagree? No. Yes. No. No. Agree to agree. It was... Anyway, so I came out of that movie theater fucking...
yelling about the patriarchy and horses. Yep. And you couldn't handle it. I couldn't handle you. Yeah, it was a lot. I don't know how much coffee I had that day, but it was whatever, however much it was, it was too much. So what we're doing here today to commemorate this major milestone, which I've never reached before, and I've done three podcasts before this. Really? Never reached a year. Get out. Yeah. Wow. Yeah. Yay, psychopedia. First year is tough. Yeah, it is. First year is like...
Who the hell knows what's going to happen? Right. You have no clue. People listen, they don't, whatever. It doesn't matter. I remember Dave telling me when we started this, he's like, even if you feel like it's not going well, keep going. Yeah. Even if you feel like, you know, nobody's listening and it's not catching on and nobody's interested in your content, keep putting it out. Yeah. And see what happens. The right people will discover it eventually. Yeah. And if you love it, I mean, it sounds cheesy, then that's your reason for doing it. Yeah. You know what I mean? And I do love it and you do love it. And thankfully, so do our listeners. Yeah.
which this celebration is really about them. It is about them. So I do want to thank every single person who has either been on this journey since day one. Literally every single person that's ever listened to an episode, even a portion of it. We know who you are because we slightly stalked.
The feeds. I've been to your house. Who subscribes and whatever, who DMs us. But yeah, this one year anniversary is really a tribute to all of our listeners. They make it very easy. Oh my God, you guys, you're like family. We say it all the time, but since it's our anniversary, we can be a little more cheesy. You can, sure. Love you all. Thank you all so much. And here's to like a million more years together.
Over on Patreon, people say the Unhinged episodes are like hanging out in a room with us. That's what this episode is going to be, I feel. Because we're taking all your questions. We posted something on Instagram the other day about, you know, ask us anything. And like I said, we did that with the Patreon a couple of weeks ago, but now we're doing it here and we're going absolutely all in on all the questions. All of them.
Wow. Not all of them. Time permitting. Time permitting. I do want to cover as many questions as we possibly can. Right. So this bonus episode to acknowledge and thank everybody for one year of amazingness is
it's really just a Q&A type of thing so you can get to know us a little bit better and we also got to know you a little bit better because it's nice to know what you're interested in learning about. Yeah. You know? Some of them are going to be about true crime and the cases. Some of them are going to be about us, I'm sure. There was a lot of like, how did you guys meet? Which, in my mind, I'm like, we already told you that! But we didn't. We did it on Patreon. We did it on Patreon. We've talked about it in passing but this is
We did a whole episode on Patreon. Yes. Yeah. Is that a question you want to answer? How did you guys meet? No, take it. I think it's important. Yeah, hit it. That person over there is married to my closest friend. She's been on this, you know, she's obsessed with true crime, obviously. I'm not speaking out of turn here. No. You're not speaking enough about my obsession. Yeah. And I've just, you know, I've known her for 20 years, which is, I've said it before, she's
I think why this podcast works so well because I knew you for a long time. Yeah. I knew your name. I knew where you lived. I knew what you looked like. I'd say hello out, but it wasn't, we weren't like talking, talking. Right. You know what I mean? We did. There have been times where we've like gotten into it, but seriously, we'll get into some deep conversations. We have since we've known each other. I remember being out to dinner and literally talking about God. Yeah.
And like spirituality for like the entire time. Didn't even realize that dinner was like happening for two hours because we were just like back and forth about it. But it's always been like that because even back when we were talking about I.R. Huckabees, which is about spirituality to some extent and existentialism and what the hell are we doing? What's this all about? That's, you know, you're very smart and you're very open and you're very quick. You're easy to talk to. Thank you. I'm saying that because
There was a level of comfort and familiarity of knowing somebody for 20 years, but really also not to be a jerk, but like knowing nothing. So getting to know you over the past year with that, like a warm intro kind of a situation, um,
Yeah.
was because you knew it meant that you'd get to hang out more with Dave and that our families would get close. So, you know, mission accomplished there. It was not a possibility that we were not going to hang out more, me and him. Even if they come over and we're recording, I knew there's still going to be an hour or two after that where I'd be able to just sit and look at him in person. Yes, totally. You don't get that. It's very difficult with families and lives and all that to like,
Actually, when I had my other podcast, Think Tank, I remember saying to people like, I would never get a chance to talk to you for an hour if we weren't doing this podcast. So in a way, podcasts are almost a way to like,
For me, it was a way to make sure that I saw Dave more, but the podcast is also fun and it's good. Yes. It's the cherry on the sundae. But for me, it's the entire sundae. But you also do a very good job. The listeners make it easy. You make it easy. Likewise. I can't believe we didn't mention this guy here. Oh my God. What is wrong with us? I don't know. Cash, how did we not bring him into the picture? Hi.
Oh, he heard us. He heard us talking about it. What's up? Of course he would be here on the one-year anniversary. He's such a big part of this podcast. And for all the people- Podcast, please. Podcast, whatever. Yeah. For everybody who talks about Cash and messages about him and sends love to him and about him, he says thank you so much. Yeah. And so do I. Yeah. He was freaking out on the way over here. Yeah, I told you. He does that. Like, he cries. I know. He gets really pumped. I know. All right, let's get into the questions. Yeah.
Slater, what got you into true crime is the question. Oh, boy, we don't fucking...
Do you have three hours or? Doing a three-parter here? Well, first of all, when I was a little girl, my grandmother used to read me chapters from her crime novels. Like instead of bedtime stories, she'd read me a chapter out of a crime fiction novel. Oh, nice. Yeah. So that became like a thing that I absolutely looked forward to and connected with and was fascinated by. Like could not get enough of it. Never wanted to go to sleep. Wanted more, more, more, more, more. Yeah. More death, grandma. Well.
Kind of. And then I loved watching the news, ironically. Not like the, I don't know. I loved watching what law enforcement was doing when crimes would be discussed. I loved when justice was like shown. You know what I mean? Like this person was caught. Here's how this person was caught. Yeah. And then I would try and figure out more about that person to the extent that I could because the internet didn't exist back then. Yeah, you had to go into the Encyclopedia Britannica. Yep.
Always been interested and fascinated by human nature, particularly the dark corners of the human psyche. This is for my sisters. I always wondered where my mandibula was. Okay.
Okay. Do you know what that is? No. There was a very famous commercial for the encyclopedias. Wait, I'm talking like mid to late 80s. Psychopedias? Yeah, the psychopedias with the skulls on them. No, so Encyclopedia Britannica. That was like Google back then, by the way. Yeah. 80 books with everything that ever happened in the world. We had them in my basement. Okay, yeah. Seems a little incomplete, but okay. So there was this guy who did the commercials, skinny blonde guy, glasses, and...
He's looking at the book and he goes, oh, I always wondered where my mandibula was. Well, thanks to this encyclopedia, I now know. Well, it's mandible, first of all. But we would just say that at home all day. We'd be like, oh, I always wanted to remember. That's awesome. Yeah, so that's for them. Okay. Sorry about that. No, that's okay. A little sidetrack. Yeah, then I ended up going to college for criminology and criminal justice at the University of Maryland and studying it only deepened my love and fascination for it.
And then I wanted to have a true crime podcast for a little while before Tank and I started. And I actually recorded two independent episodes by myself. It was not psychopedia. In a closet. At my kitchen table, like in between when the kids got home from school. Even I've never heard them. Tank hasn't even heard them yet, but I might, I might air them on Patreon. If I get enough requests and enough people on there.
I'll do it. Well, now that you mentioned it, obviously our Patreon is going to explode with requests for that. Well, and that will be my thank you to people for joining. So anyway, I did two episodes and I was like, this sucks, man. I need somebody to like riff with. I need somebody who's like in
Like, in this with me. Yeah. I need someone smart, brilliant, funny, jacked. Humble. Called. Humble. Won't say nice things about himself in public. Exactly. Yeah. So, you know. If only that person existed. Dave knew a guy. Right. If only my husband had a best friend. Yeah. Who fit the bill. Yeah.
Other, if you will. Exactly. Exactly. So that's how I got into true crime. That's the short answer. We can't go into length. I don't know if that was even short enough. I'm sorry if I went on. Yeah, it was a little long. I'm just kidding. Wow.
Everything you do is short enough. Oh, because she's short. Wow. What would your death row meal be? I had that one written down too. You have yours in mind? You want me to go first? I would like you to go first. Okay. It would be spaghetti with ketchup. Don't knock it till you've tried it, please. Yeah, I mean, you're going to be dead soon anyway, so what is it?
Followed by pretzels dipped in cream cheese with a side of grape juice. Oh, man, that's good. It's so good. Grape juice, no, I have no clue what that's about, but pretzels with cream cheese. It's salty and sweet. It's delicious. Grapefruit is sour and sweet. Grape juice? Oh, grapefruit juice. Grape juice, yes. Grape juice. 100%. Okay, thank you. Grape juice is the nectar of the nuts. I almost left.
So good. It's like, yo, what planet are you on? A heaping bowl of cereal. What kind? Either Cinnamon Toast Crunch or Raisin Bran. Very simple but delicious. Raisin Bran. Takes ass. Let the milk make it soggy. Yeah. First.
Obviously. And then you eat it, followed by a gigantic vanilla cupcake with rainbow sprinkles. And then you're dead. I mean, I have no reason to live past that. That's the ultimate experience. Yeah. So what would I do? It would definitely be jumbo lump crab meat because I love it. You do love that. A crab cake made with jumbo lump crab meat because I love it. Okay. A hamburger from Five Guys. Okay.
Some french fries, not too many because I got to save room. You know, I'm dying, but I only have one stomach until then. A 20-ounce, cold as fuck, Coke Zero. Oh, my God. Crack it, fast.
throw it down, eyes tearing, can't breathe, burp, dead. Don't care anymore about anything. Then I would also have, finally, the butter cake from Mastro's. Or really anywhere but butter cake from Mastro's. Like, I'm pretty sure that's the reason that that place is so successful. I've never had it. You need to have it. Okay. Yeah. All right. I see that. In my opinion. Yeah. If you could get in a room with any of the people that we've covered on Psychopedia, who would it be? Oh.
No. Yes. Sharon Lepotka, Feed Me, Fuck Me, Kill Me. What would you... I would love to understand her fetish, her paraphilia a little bit. I... Okay, sorry. Yeah. No, I just... I mean, I understand paraphilias and fetishes. Like, generally, I understand that, like, you know, people have yums and people have yucks, and that's her yum. I want to know why. Yeah. I would like to meet Father Hans Schmidt. Yeah? Yeah.
I need a play-by-play of how he got the chicken head on his penis. Yeah. I need to know that. Too much guesswork at this point. More than anything. Yeah. I just want to know, how'd you do it? What was the method? I think we figured it out. We've talked about it. We don't know anything. We don't know, but I think... One of the great mysteries. He likely decapitated the chicken. Yeah. And then stuffed it onto his penis as if it were like a condom, like through with the neck. Whatever. This is all speculation. Obviously.
I'd like to know. Yeah. So Sharon LaPaka and I have one more person. Okay. Jerry Brudos, the shoe fetish slayer. Yeah. I don't know why, but. What do you mean you don't know why? Fascinating. Fascinating. I have zero interest in knowing any of these people. Wow. That's okay. Yeah. I don't want to know anything about them. But gun to your head. You have to sit down with one of them. I have to sit down with one of them? Father Hans Schmidt. Oh yeah. You said that. Okay. One reason. Okay.
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What would be your intro song into a room? It can't be the psychopedia jingle, by the way. That's word waster. Oh, it would be Black Wedding. Rob Halford? Yeah. In the moment, I believe is the, yeah. Yeah. It's a nice night for a black wedding.
It's just a great song and it gets me hyped. And where are you picturing yourself walking into? Oh, it's like a music video in my head. Oh, okay. So I'm in like Black Lace and it's very dark and weird around me, but people are also dancing, but like very slowly. There's candlelight. You're in slow-mo? Yeah, but I'm like... You're in regular speed? No, I'm slow-mo too. Okay. It's dimly lit, very dark, but also sexy. So, I mean, that's not what the question was. Oh.
When you're walking into a room, what would your intro be? What song? Like if you had a bat mitzvah today.
What would you come out to? Oh, you go first. Apparently, I don't know how to answer this question. It really depends on what kind of room I'm walking into. You are complicating this. Welcome to fucking psychopedia. Just pick a song, man. Simon Says by Farrah Munch. Great. Why? It's a song that I did my bodybuilding routine to. Oh. It's just a fucking... By the way, I listened to that song recently. It's like...
It's the Godzilla thing. And in the beginning, he's going... I was like, dude, did Jay-Z steal this from Farrow Munch? I can't believe I just said that. Oh my God. But it was pretty... I mean, listen, Jay-Z's first album came out in 96.
Farrah Munch came out. His album came out in 98, 99. So, I mean, whatever. It's neither here nor there. Yeah. I guess it's just a sound I like. Well, why can't Black Wedding be a sound that I like? I'm talking about... Oh, yeah. Well, all right.
Black Wedding could be a song you like. It is. But you painted a whole picture of a whole music video. Because that's how I'm entering a room. Yeah. All right. I'm creative. Okay. I have another question. All right, go ahead. This is a good one. Yeah, yeah. If you had to choose, so you have to choose. There's no opting out because my first instinct was to opt out. Would you rather know the cause or the day of your death? The cause. I don't know. Oh, God, no. Can I take it back? I don't know if I want to know that.
I would, here's why I would go for the day. I think. First of all. So you can plan accordingly? Yeah, kind of. I mean, worst case scenario is you find out that it's two days from now.
You know? Yeah. That's scary. However, knowing the cause of your death, there was, um, what, what do you want to say? I was just thinking if you knew the cause of your death, let's say, God forbid, this is terrible, a car accident, right? Then maybe you would eat whatever the hell you wanted from this moment on because you knew you weren't going to die of a heart attack. You knew you weren't going to die of, you know, a related disease. Then you're going to feel like shit all the time. Come on. I'm just saying, right? Like then you can do different things. Like you could, uh,
you know, go bungee jumping and you could go skydiving and you wouldn't have that fear of dying because you know that's not how you die. I mean, you could go skydiving without a parachute if you know you'd die. Exactly. My point. You could actually really start living. I don't know if knowing the cause of your death makes you invincible though. That's a fear of mine. Because you could, you know, everything's up for negotiation. But when I was drinking and doing drugs...
After I stopped, I remember hearing somebody say something like, it was like living through your own death every night. Because most people who have that issue will die of something related to that cause. And I just remember feeling like, oh my God. Like knowing when you're going to die is obviously, you know, bone chilling. But...
I think most people are not scared to be dead because we don't know, you know? I think most people are scared of how they're going to die. And when you know how you're going to die and just keep doing it over and over and over again, it's like, that's why cause for me specifically is like off the table. I don't want to know shit about how I die. Yeah. However, if I find out what day it is, I could find out it's 50 years from now. Then I'm fucking chilling. I guess the same rules apply in that case. You could eat whatever you want. You could do whatever, you know what I mean? True. You got
You got another one? You can go. Okay. What were your career aspirations throughout life? It's like the various stages of your life. What did you aspire to be? I wanted to play baseball when I was younger. Yeah? Yeah. Then...
What? I didn't want to, I didn't know. I had no idea. Oh, okay. That's okay. I didn't know what the hell I wanted to do. That's okay. I do remember feeling something in my soul, in my gut. I was at a bar after I got sober, so I wasn't drinking, but I was at a bar because I was like still kind of trying to hang out. It was maybe a year after I stopped.
And I had this feeling come over me that I was like, I was like, I'm going to do standup comedy. And I did standup comedy. I didn't wind up doing that for a living, but I do something similar. I do what I want for a living. And that was kind of it. I mean, I didn't, I just went with whatever, like I waited tables. What about music? You ever want to do anything professionally with music?
I did, but then I interned at Def Jam and I saw what a nightmare it is. That was like when I interned on Capitol Hill thinking I was going to like run this country one day and I was like, no, that's just not how it seems to work. Because at the end of the day, it's still people you have to deal with. Whatever business you're in, you have to deal with the people in the business. It's also like a little bit of like don't meet your hero.
You know what I mean? Yeah. Like you love music until you're in it doing like the dirty work and like you said, seeing all the people, it's not so glamorous. And the people weren't bad. There was one person who was bad, but that didn't define my experience there. It was more like...
I don't want to know how the sausage is made. I just want to fucking eat the sausage. Yeah. Enjoy it. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I don't want to know that like this song took 30,000 hours to make. Right. Well, somebody said that to me at work. They're like, you think you're going to love true crime so much now that you're like, not forced, but like you have to be in the game doing the research instead of doing it just for fun. And I'm like, well, so far, no way. I love it more. Yeah. Because I'm doing what I love. There's a story about kids who...
This guy lives on a road that's right near a high school, right? So every day these kids walk past his house to go to school, they knock over everyone's garbage cans. He just kicked them because they're kids. They don't give a shit about anything, right? So one day he goes outside and he goes, hey, I'll give each of you guys five bucks if you kick over all the rest of the garbage cans on the block, right? So then they're like, fuck yeah, five bucks and what we're doing anyway, cool. He does that. He gives them five every day for like, let's say two weeks. Then one day he goes,
Guys, I don't have any cash on me. I can't do it anymore. I can't pay you. I just don't have cash and it got a little expensive for me. They never kicked another garbage can for the rest of their lives because you assigned a value to it, a financial value, and then you took that away. So I'm constantly aware of that with what I do for a living.
But it's a good story to make you aware of it, but it doesn't always work like that. Like you just told us a story of you listening to crime novels when you were a little girl with your grandmother. I don't think that's going away for you. No, no. It also depends which area of it you get into. If you were like, I want to be in true crime. And then somebody was like, well, I have a job for you in true crime. It's building studios for true crime podcasts.
I don't want to do that. Not my thing, right. Not your thing. If you went to construction, then it might be your thing. And if you love true crime, cool, you do a true crime studio, you know, every once in a while. But yeah, it does have a lot to do with what you do in the thing that you do. Yes, yes.
My career aspirations? Yeah. To answer that question. So from like 8 to 10, I wanted to be an astronaut. Uh-huh. From 10 to 12, I wanted to be a dog saver, which I wound up becoming. Yeah. A little bit later in life, obviously. Yep. From age 15 to like 22, I wanted to be a Secret Service agent and take a bullet for the president. Yeah.
That didn't happen. Do you remember that though? So strange. So strange. How old were you when you wanted that? Like 15 to 22. It's what made me choose the University of Maryland and criminal justice and criminology. So it worked out for you in your entire life. And then I wanted to own a hair salon. So I went to, I don't even know if you know this. I went to cosmetology school for two weeks and dropped out. Two weeks. I'm a beauty school dropout. Literally. Wow.
Yeah. Beauty school dropout. Who sings that song? That's from Grease. Let's keep it that way. Oh, fuck you. Fucking gotcha. I wasn't even going to say that. I really actually wanted to know who sang it.
Listen, so there's a lot of requests about this case, and I just want to put it on the record. The Luca Magnata case on Fuck With Cats, Netflix documentary. I don't think I ever want to do that. I know. I know you don't. You've mentioned that before. It's not because like I'm not trying to like say, no, that's a bad idea. I just remember watching it and being like the most interesting part of that story was how they found him. The community found him.
So it's not kind of not like it's not true crime. I mean, it is. Right. Obviously, but it's also it's not. I don't know. I mean, I can't present a case that I know you're not into. I also don't want to hear about some guy who killed a bunch of cats. Again, I watched it once. That was enough. Right. For me. Although you always tell me not to focus anything I do on your preferences. So maybe I should just put a case together. For Looking Magdana? Yeah. It could be a solo episode.
You do it by your damn self. Don't fuck with Tank. Oh, oh, oh, okay. Tank, three million or dinner with Jay-Z?
Oh, I could answer that. The fact that you even asked me that is insulting to me. There was a meme going around a long time, a couple years ago, five million or dinner with Jay-Z? And like, there was a big debate about it. Yeah, for other people. Yeah. Yeah. I don't think I talk enough about how much Jay-Z means to me. I talk about him a lot. I don't ever go into like why I feel that way about him. And I don't know if I can get into it now, but like,
The man, as an artist and as a person, has had such a profoundly positive impact on my life in so many different areas. When he raps, I hear him rapping about principles, themes, not
circumstances like yes he's talking about circumstances but i i hear a common theme in his music don't give up do it your own way forget what everyone else says do what you want to do keep pushing you know like that kind of and and people will say like well he started off selling drugs it's like he did but he stopped pretty early on and converted that into a legitimate business a gigantic gigantic legitimate business i listened to his song already home on the blueprint three and
And he's like, he talks about taking meetings and, you know, with the executives and they're not interested. He's like back to the drawing board. We're going to figure it out. It's like that kind of mentality. I like hearing that. Yeah, sure. Because he is fucking Jay-Z. Yeah. But at one point he was not. I know. You know what I mean? It's, it's, and I know that's true for a lot of people in a lot of things, but for me, I just, you know,
You're choosing Jay-Z. You're not choosing 3 million. I stand him. Yeah, exactly. Long story short. Yeah. Dinner with Jay-Z. Dinner with. Yeah. What did I say? Oh, it was dinner with Jay-Z. Okay. Yeah. Tank 3 million or dinner with Jay-Z. Yeah. At your favorite pizza spot. Lucali. Yeah. Which by the way. I know.
We sat at his table again. Oh, wow. We went there. So, Vocali, this Brooklyn pizza spot, hard to get into, famous, you know, a lot of hype. Very good. Hype is well-deserved, by the way. Jay-Z and Beyonce go there all the time. They used to go there a lot, a lot when they lived in the neighborhood, but now they come still very often. And when we went there for the first time, the woman, Barb, who works there, she's like, actually, you're sitting in their table. Did you die? My butt started just...
Dancing. Pingling. Even though my butt was on Beyonce's butt. Jessica's butt was on Jay-Z's butt. I was like, can we switch? Obviously. So, yeah. You say cigar with the shit out of that chair. Oh, my God. Yeah. Yep. Gross. Milky white thighs. Oh, God. If you were killed, would you want someone to do a podcast episode about it? I'm going to say no. Really? Because...
In order for a podcast episode to be done about how I was killed, it probably sucked. Fair point. And I would just rather somebody stab me in the fucking neck or something. Quick, no story. Shoot me in the head. Don't, yeah, he's dead. That's still true crime, though, because, like,
If I were doing that case, I would talk about your past, the perpetrator's past, how you both wound up in that spot at the same exact time. I would want you to do an episode on it. Okay. Nobody else. Well, here's my vow. Yeah. If something ever happens to you, I will do a case on you. Okay.
Okay. But I won't have a co-host, so what am I talking about? Yeah, through tears. No, I could never. What am I saying? What are you talking about? I would be totally fine with somebody doing it if it was respectful, well-researched,
and maybe some kind of message that could help people to like either avoid what happened to me or just have some kind of takeaway. If you did it, if you did the episode. Well, I'd be dead. Whatever you figure it out. Yeah. Crafty. Do you think, so here's something that I think about a lot. This is a question from me. You just said,
If a message goes out that could help people potentially, you know, not get into the situation that I was in, do you even think that that's possible? Or is it just like things happen to people and things happen to people and there's really not a whole lot of prevention you can take to stop life from happening? I think that there's, you can't prevent everything from happening, but I think you can absolutely take measures to prevent other things from happening. You wear your seatbelt when you get in the car. Yeah. You choose grilled over fried.
So you don't get a heart attack. Like I'm just saying, you make choices that decrease the likelihood of a certain outcome happening. Yeah. You can learn. Yes, I do. Of course. But I'm saying like when we hear about these people who are just psychotic out of their minds, they're going to kill somebody. Well, yeah, like a spree killer, you know, you're standing in the wrong place at the wrong time. If I see a white van with no windows, I'm not walking past it. Why? Because I've learned a thing or two. You don't want candy? I don't want to get killed or abducted.
Wasn't that like a myth? It doesn't matter. No, first of all, no, it wasn't. When we were growing up, there really was somebody driving around in a white van abducting children. Okay, can I challenge you? You're going to tell me no. I'm not going to tell you no. I'm going to ask you some questions. Okay, I don't know anything about it. No. Probably didn't happen. It did. And...
Sorry, Mom, but a cat went outside during the Fourth of July and someone shoved the firecracker up its butt and lit it. Yeah, okay. And got their arms destroyed in the process. What? How did they catch the cat? Maybe there were two people. Have you ever seen Rocky when he's trying to catch the chicken? Oh, God.
You know how hard it is to run when you're bending down trying to pick something up? You lose a lot of speed when you bend down. I have a smaller center of gravity. Yeah, you'd be like this. It's a lot easier. Trying to catch the cat. But yeah, I mean, I remember hearing stuff like that. So here's what I remember learning later, later on. Because like the 80s really was the era of kidnapping. Yes. Even though it wasn't. So the statistics in the media, it was a huge thing. Kidnapping, kidnapping, kidnapping. Your kid's going to get kidnapped. Don't leave their sight. Yeah. And...
The numbers were down in the 80s when the media was doing it. I don't know. Listen, the Cleveland kidnapper van, we covered that case. There's enough truth that I avoid vans. Yeah, listen, I'm not running towards any white vans either, just to be clear. I'm not going to like, you know, I'm not going to swim in shark infested waters. I'm just, I'm going to like learn from things that have happened and make different decisions.
Am I going to be like spot on every time? No. We do your best. Right. Right. You do your best. Sure do. With whatever tools you have at your disposal at that time. No. Sometimes. It's not the best tool. I'm just not thinking. That's part of your toolbox. And I walk into traffic.
What is Investigator Slater's first name? Oh my God, that's so cute. It's very cute that they don't know. No, my name is Brooke. My middle name is Erin. My last name is Slater. It's Slater for real. It is Slater for real. Which is, I mean, there's a couple of things that made me like really want to do this. I remember. That is one of them. I remember. You were like...
I'm going to be Investigator Slater. Because I'm an investigator. My eyes lit up. I was like, yo, I mean, that's kind of it. Yeah. Decision made. I don't need to know anything else about what this podcast is going to be about. Yeah. Investigator Slater is your name. I'd listen to it. We're going. I would listen to it. And I'm not, I wasn't into true crime at the time. I'm still not. I'm just into this. Well, one of the questions was,
Are you a little bit more into true crime now than when we started a year ago? Oh, yeah, sure. Yeah. I appreciate it in, you know, the way it is to be appreciated. I'm not like, I don't listen to it before bed. That's a shame. That's a big miss. Yeah, I have a lot. I have trouble dreaming anyway. I have dreams. Can I answer for you a little bit? Sure.
You have come so far in your true crime journey that you now present cases to me on Patreon called Tankopedia. Very true. Anybody wants to hear a tank going all in, research, delivery on cases. What's interesting about the Tankopedia case is not to sidetrack, but it's kind of what we're doing today. This whole thing is a sidetrack.
He picks cases to cover that I would never pick. So you're going to get variety when you hear Tank, right? Like you picked a financial crime to do. That's not my interest. You did a great job. I was interested in your episode. Bitcoin, yeah. I'm really not, by and large, I'm not going to choose financial crime cases on Psychopedia. You loved hearing about Bitcoin.
I loved hearing your take, but honestly, it's just, it's not my interest, but that's okay. You made it interesting. Yeah. So far, I've done the Bitcoin guy, Cash for Kids, those piece of shit judges. Fascinating. And Richard Russell, Sky King. For me, you're two for three. Why? You're three for three. Three for three. But like financial crime just doesn't interest me. All right, here's another question. Tank, what are your thoughts on Bitcoin and where it's heading? Shut up. Well, I'm so glad you asked. Shut up.
Whoever asked that, which is no one. It was me. Run. It was me from Tank Sinatra. You don't have three hours. No, I'm just kidding. Nobody asked that. I don't think. I didn't say. Cats or dogs? Why don't you ask the beasts on the floor? That's from BearBeat22. Remind me later so I can block them. I do. Just kidding. I'm kidding, BearBeat22. We love you. I love all animals. I love all psychopedia listeners. Shelly underscore G80. Please start a YouTube channel. Okay.
Okay. Okay. We're going to do it. For you. It's done. It's over. What are both of your favorite cartoon theme songs? Oh, DuckTales. DuckTales. There's no other answer. DuckTales. Ooh. Yeah, that fucking, that shit slaps. Oh.
Also, Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles, right? Heroes in a Half Shell, Turtle Power. Great. Those were around the same time, right? Yes. DuckTales and Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles. That was another golden era of cartoon theme songs. I had a 12-inch television. I'm not joking. It was a box.
box in my bedroom that I shared with my twin sister across the room. And you felt like a queen. Absolutely. Goddamn right. I was a queen. DuckTales in a room with my twin. Tombstone pizza. Tombstone pizza. That's right. You have mentioned DuckTales on this podcast before. That's right. Yeah.
I don't have any food memories associated with it. Although, that's a lie. Celeste pizzas, the little ones with like the sausage that's from the food. How many decades old is that? Oh, yeah. Yeah. Celeste pizzas with the pepper. I don't even like any of the stuff on there. I love Celeste pizzas. They're good. Yep. They're real. I might want one tonight. Do it. That's the nice part about being an adult. Yeah. Just do whatever you want pretty much as far as food goes. Then you have the
the guilt about it later. I'm not going to feel guilty about it. I don't feel guilty anymore. I live life. It's like nothing. That's like someone else eating a salt. It's like you eating a saltine. You know? This is not the question I thought it was. I'm sorry. But I'm going to read it anyway. Oh, no.
Can we get a flip podcast? I thought it was asking, like, can we get a flip podcast where I present and you listen, which is what we just talked about. But it says where your significant others host the episode. I saw that. You got to ask them. Yeah. I would love it. I mean, I talk to Firefighter Dave about this all the time. And he was like a little...
Like, really? You sure? You think? He was into it? No, I think he was a little bit like, how does it work? How do you just get on a microphone and start talking? What if there's inclement weather? What do I wear?
I think, honestly, we should just bring Dave and Jessica to the studio, put headphones on them, turn the mics on, and just see what happens. Just go, yeah. Yeah, just go. It'll be fine. It'll be great. Watch them slay, and now we're fucking out of a job. I know. Maybe we shouldn't do this. This is a question that came through on Patreon, but I want to answer it here. CR1422 on Instagram. Has there ever been a case that's too fucked up to cover? And my same answer is the guy who shot his three kids or four kids, like, for no reason. Hmm.
And they were, I don't even want to talk about it actually. It was awful. It just happened though. It just happened. It was three little boys. Oh God, I can't talk about it. It's too fucked up even to talk about it. It's like, I can't imagine doing that research, but I don't even want to talk about it right now. It's like the man with the red bandana. Like I can't even tell people what that's about because I'll start crying. Yeah, I know. I've tried. What's it about? Well, it's about, I know it's about.
A guy. On September 11th. Yeah, I can't even do it. It's very heavy. It's very, very heavy. There was an episode that we did cover, the Goth family annihilator case.
And there was a part in that where, and we edited a lot of it out, which, you know, it may have been the right thing to do, maybe not, you know. I don't think it's so bad for our listeners to hear that we're human beings. Yeah. But also, you know, we had to keep the case moving. Oh, the goth family annihilator? Yeah. And I think we were both, I mean, crying. We were in tears. I wasn't sobbing. No, no. We weren't like inconsolable. We were trying to move the case along, but we were choked up. Yeah.
I mean, it took a minute. I mean, the kid tried to protect his family with a lightsaber. Tried to protect himself. I can't even talk about it now. Yeah, it's too much.
Hakuna Yatata's merch when? As soon as we end this episode. Great question. We'll get it design made. Great question. We got to get our merch really up to speed. We have merch at Psychopedia Podcast, but it's a link to another site, which is cool. It's good. It's not, you know, there's no problem, but we got to, we got a lot of shit going on. Yeah. Okay.
But Hakuna Yatata's merch, when, it's a top priority. And for anybody who doesn't know, that's somebody's Patreon name. Yeah. And if you break it. She is flipping out right now. If you break it down, Hakuna Yatata. Well, hold on, hold on, hold on, hold on. Oh, okay. Hakuna Yatata's is, because they don't even know what the RYG is, some people. Do they? Um.
Sure they do. It was on a main episode. Oh, it was? Yeah, it was on the, I think, the Brazilian Dexter episode. Oh, okay. Sorry, go ahead. Continue. Yeah, well, Hakuna Yatadas is like another way to say relax your genitals, which if you're a psychopedia listener, you know. Maybe you don't. Maybe you're new. You remember that a man gave a guided meditation and did not skip past the...
Yes. Advise. He went in there. He said he was going through the top of the head, the lips, the upper chest. Relax your shoulders. Relax your belly. Relax your lower abdomen. And I was like, no way. No way. He's going to go right to the thighs. He has to. And he goes...
Relax your genitals, which is obviously a gender neutral term, which I appreciated. I wonder if he knew he was going to say that or if it just came to him in like a flash. I mean, I don't know what's worse. I left. Did you? He said, relax your genitals. I mean. Guided meditation. Do it and see what happens. I was going to ruin the meeting.
I couldn't stop. I was like, I was about to explode with laughter. Oh, okay. That, I thought you left because you were like, this is fucking ridiculous. No, I was, I didn't. Oh yeah, if you're laughing, sure. You don't want to ruin the moment for everyone else. Yeah, I don't want to unrelax anybody's genitals. Anybody want to see what happens? I don't want to tense up anybody's genitals. But yeah, Hakuna Yatob, it's a derivation of that. Yes. Your house is burning down. What two material items do you take? Do you rescue? Oh my God.
I mean, I'm assuming phone is like, that's, yes. Like, that can't be in the two. No. No? It can. Why would it be? You can get a new phone. You want to see what my two things are? Just for some fucking perspective, man. Not really. But I'm sure you're going to tell me anyway. My... I have three things. My...
Dog who passed away, Luca, his ashes. Okay. Copper bracelets that belong to my Grammy. And Post-it notes that Dave left for me. So when we moved into our house, and he did this for like two years, he, every single morning by my coffee cup, every single morning, left me a different Post-it note with a different loving, sweet little message on it. And I saved...
Every single post-it note. If you look at it, because I want to make a book of it, if you look at it, you see exactly where we were at that stage in life because the note had to do with that. So when we started this podcast, he'd be like, I love my Investus later. I love my... You know what I mean? Yeah, yeah. Cute stuff. So it tracked our journey together. These little tiny post-it notes, I would run into a fucking burning house to get them. Yeah. So now can I ask you, what would you get? Your phone? My watches. Yeah.
I don't, I mean, I don't have, here's a thing about me that people probably do know, but maybe everyone doesn't because, you know, everyone hasn't heard everything we've ever said. I, I can, I can get sentimental, of course.
But my whole life has been built upon trying to just enjoy a little bit this present moment. Even a glimpse of presence for me is like a gift, like a... Present. Glimpse into heaven. Yeah, exactly. It's a present. So...
I don't know. I'm not, I don't know if I would grab anything. Well, I'll be honest with you. My phone, I would grab my phone for sentimental reasons because there is so many memories on the phone. You can't access that if you got a new phone?
Maybe I don't know how technology works. I don't think, yeah, I, I, um, every, I don't know, I shouldn't fucking say this, but every password I I've ever created is in a note on my phone. So if I don't have my phone, I can't get into my phone. Fair enough. It's not great. Fair enough. It's not a great situation. All of my money, uh, Bitcoin investments, the passwords, like, yeah, can we work on that?
Yeah, but then if I put it on paper, I'll lose that. I didn't say paper, but maybe just somewhere else beside your phone. An email? I don't know. That can get hacked, I guess. I'm going to do that. No, fuck that. I don't care if it gets hacked. Okay, there you go. Problem solved. If they can hack it, I can hack it. That's what I'm worried about. True, true, true. So true. All right, what else you got? I don't like this question, but I'm going to ask it for you because I know you're going to love to tell this person the answer to this question. Okay. Kat Melnick. Kat Melnick.
Where can we buy the pink metallic backpack? Louder for the people in the back. Cake emoji? Pink heart emoji? You can get it at growthefuckup.com. You can get it at widdlebabyaesthetic.com.
I have amazingfashion.com. Yeah. Kidding. Yeah. Obviously, that was so obnoxious, but I tried to just counter what you were saying. Your fashion is fantastic. Okay.
I also want to say that I have it in three other colors. Yeah. Four, if you count my son's backpack, because he has the same bag in silver, chrome, like metallic. Beautiful. I have it in red. I have it in black and I have it in white. Crocodile print. Yeah. You've seen that one. I have. Beautiful. I've seen the pink one too. Yeah. You can get it at a website called Madpax. M-A-D-P-A-X dot com. All right. And it's maybe a kid's website.
Does it matter? It's a fabulous bag and I really appreciate Kat's interest in it and that she likes it or he likes it. Can I tell a story? Yeah. The other day, you were talking about how you were like a little offended that somebody said you had a widdle baby aesthetic. Can you stop saying it like that?
I'm just the, well, it's a meme. Oh. I'm just a widdle baby. It's creepy. Yeah. It's giving creepy. I know. How's that? I know. In your language. So she goes, I don't know why people are, you know, saying I have a widdle baby aesthetic. And then we're picking out chairs for the podcast studio and she sends me straight out of the Barbie dream house, a pink throne with like pink, pink, pink, pink, pink, pink, pink, pink. It was magical.
I mean, depending on who you are. Let me ask you, because we're souping up the studio, this really not great looking studio at the moment, but everybody has to start somewhere, right? I would like, for me, because we're going to have different chairs because we can't agree on one chair for us both to have. So he already ordered his chair. Basic, but nice, but basic.
For me... I'm the star of the chair, first of all. Yeah, fine. What I want is a legit throne, and it's pink. And Tank absolutely will not have it in the studio. But I want to know everybody's opinion. And would you like to see me sitting in a pink throne when we record on YouTube? Yeah, I'll have it in the studio, but I'm just... You wanted a pink throne, which I could post a picture of so people can see how pink it actually is. Sure.
And then Ariana Grande cat ear headphones. Oh, they're fabulous. Do you want our listeners to be 50, 60-year-old men looking for a little fun on the internet? Gross. Who are not, they can't subscribe to Belle Delphine anymore or buy her bathwater because it's out of stock.
Is that who you want our audience to be? Because if so, then let's do that. I don't have to change. I'll wear a diaper and a fucking pacifier. I'll talk through it. First of all, this is your. Like Jimbo from Boss Baby. This is your interpretation of my vibe. And it's not accurate, but it's, it's, you're entitled to have it. I don't have to change what I like and who I am to accommodate anybody.
The creeps or the non-creeps? Preach, sister. I'm serious. The women listening to this right now are like, oh, fucking tell that idiot. Good. I have come to, I'm 41 years old. As if I don't agree with you. Yeah. I want a fucking pink throne. First of all, you are really getting riled up. You need to relax. You're hysterical. You're a woman and you're hysterical. Calm down. Okay.
I was waiting for something to come flying at my head. Amazing mannerisms. Oh, my God. Shut up, Anna Butera. Investigator Angel. Who is your favorite serial killer? Tank Angel, so not that special. Favorite comedian. You go first. Oh, okay. Favorite? Like, in what way? Favorite serial killer? Yeah, you know what I mean? Like, what makes them...
Favorite in that, like, I find them the most fascinating. All right. Again, I think Jerry Brudos. Yeah. I just, the whole shoe fetish, not a foot fetish, but rather a shoe fetish. Yeah. He's fascinating to me. Yeah. He's gruesome and horrible, but fascinating. Yeah. My favorite comedian, it's such a tough question for me to answer because I love so many comedians. Yeah. But if I had to,
literal gun to my head. Tell me who your favorite comedian is or I'm going to kill you. Yeah. First of all, why is it so important for you to know who my favorite comedian is? Sir, I mean, it's a little drastic. Give me a minute. I like a lot of comedy, so I don't know why you're threatening my life. It's making me hard to think.
I would say Colin Quinn. Yeah? Yeah. You met him, right? Yeah. Yeah, I remember that. Fucking, that guy is just, I mean, he speaks my language. Chris Farley. I have never, except, honestly, I have never in my life accepted my twin sister. And that's just because anything she does, I think, is the fucking funniest thing ever. Yeah. Because she's never trying to be funny. Chris Farley has made me laugh in ways I didn't even know I was capable of laughing like. Yeah.
That's a great answer. Yeah. I wish I said it, but he is the one who inspired me to be that funny blonde kid. Yeah. Swear to God. Matt Foley from SNL. Oh my God. Hey dad, I can't see very well. Is that Will Shakespeare?
35 years old and I live in a van down by the river. I mean, I used to fucking, when I was 12, 13, I used to and scream it. Did you jump on coffee tables? Oh, yeah. Can I get you to jump on a coffee table? It hurts so bad. For our listeners? If you get me a crumbling coffee table, I'll do it. I'll do it.
I'm not going to jump under like a thick wood oak. How about that piece of shit table that you insisted on getting for the studio? That's glass, first of all, you psychopath. And metal, so no. But that table, that beautiful table over there, that is absolutely, it's not the best table you've ever seen, but it's nothing wrong with it as a table. It's literally the ugliest table I've ever seen. That is such bullshit. I love your initiative that you got it. Please don't. Better than your table. Where's your table? It's kind of.
It takes a minute because it's something special. You can't just pick it up at a garage sale. The table that we got from Wayfair is special. You're so mad. You act like somebody carved it out of a wood that, a tree that fucking elves used to live in. Special table, right. And they made cookies in that tree too. Yeah. Yeah.
It's such an easy question, but who is your dream guest? That's not an easy... Did you say that's an easy... That's from little t.dot. Oh, my. Wow. You go first. Jay-Z. Can you give us somebody else? Like, you know, because that was a little obvious. And you guys have already gone to dinner because you passed up on $5 million. Three. Three. My dream guest besides Jay-Z? No. No.
Because I think he could talk about like, so a lot of people don't know. Maybe they do. But I think a lot of people don't know. Like a hardcore Jay-Z fans don't even know this. Yeah. And I may be making this up, but I love it. Here we go. Reasonable Doubt, his first album. He was a drug dealer. Yep. But he was also a decent, aware, conscious person who was just trying to survive in the environment he was brought up in. Right. Right.
So he made reasonable doubt to put essentially drug dealers on public trial so that people could decide whether or not be on the shadow of a reasonable doubt, whether these people were bad people or
or products of their environment, drug dealers. So we talk about the money and the flashy stuff and the women in the cars, but then he'd be like, yeah, I sold my mom fucking drugs. It was the worst thing I've ever done in my life. I feel terrible about it. I have nightmares. You know what I mean? I don't want to do this. Yeah, yeah. You know? When he says in Can I Live...
At the bar getting my thug on probably. The squad of me laughing, laugh, fuck, what the fuck does he say? Can't help you. Anyway, he ends it by saying, laughing hard, happy to be escaping poverty, however brief.
So like this little miniature escape that they got through laughter and fun and making a little money and drinking, whatever. The takeaway from that for me was that he still had to go home to the projects and live there. You know what I mean? Yeah, yeah, yeah. So it was just, I don't know. It was a great detailed case of like this life that these people, I don't want to say are forced to live, but it's not made easy for them. Yeah. Okay. So Jay-Z would be your guest. Mine would be Jesus and Fergie.
Why don't you just get Dale? Exactly. Or Brennan. Which one? Oh, it's Dale. It's Dale. Yeah. It's definitely somebody like crimey. I have so many people that it's like mushing in my brain and I feel underprepared for this massive question. Yeah. I will have to get back to this person. Yeah. How does Slayinator... Love it. This is from Felicia...
Hi, Felicia. Hi, Felicia. Is that what you said? Yeah. Good. Sorry, I didn't mean to step on it. How does Slayinator have so many hours in the day to prepare such amazing cases? Great question. Thank you. Really good question. Thank you for that. Well, I don't sleep a lot. So I get up at five every single morning.
And I work on psychopedia until the very last minute that I possibly can. Yep. Get the kids ready, get myself off to work, work, come home, get right back to psychopedia. Drop the kids off, wait for them outside of karate, doing psychopedia in the car, dropping the other one off at swim, going to the library while he's at swim, picking everybody up, getting them home, going upstairs, working on psychopedia, coming downstairs, doing homework. You see, you see the...
For a year at this point. Yeah, very little sleep and a lot of caffeine. Yeah, it's... But total, driven by total passion for this. Yeah, yeah. Honestly, total passion. I couldn't do it otherwise. Total appreciation for our listeners and a true love of this journey. Yeah. Then this person said to me, Lauren Ruckin, shout out to Teddy Ruxpin.
Where does Tank store all his trivia? It's knowledge I didn't even know I needed. Yeah. That's a great question. I have no idea because sometimes I can't remember what I had for, you know, last night. And I can remember something that happened when I was 12 years old in vivid detail. Yeah, it's, I always say this, but what's really great about Tank's like endless well of knowledge about everything, it seems like,
is I know that whatever case I bring to the table, he's going to have feedback and good feedback and good questions and insight and contributions. Because obviously true crime is not his wheelhouse. So it's like, why? Why would this person who's not into true crime be a good co-host? He's a phenomenal co-host for the reasons I just said. Yeah. This is from Timmy Lauren. Timmy Lauren, investigators later, do you have a portable stool in the kitchen to reach the cupboards, etc.?
Tank Sinatra, did you ask that question? No, it was from Timmy. I swear to God. Somebody really asked it? From an actual person, yeah. What I have...
Shut up. Cash shaking out. He's out of here. Tell him to shut up one more time. I dare you. What I have is a gopher. So it's like that long metal like bar with a claw grabber at the end. Yeah. And then I squeeze it and it, so that's how I reach things. Well, you do have a portable stool. I do because Tank bought me one for my birthday. Yeah. You needed it. Which case haunts you the most?
That's a good one. I know yours. Junko Furuta. And Nightmare on Christmas. And Nightmare on Christmas. Those really fucked me up. Lucy Letby also. Yeah. I mean, they all do. I know that sounds silly to say, but Lucy Letby was definitely... That was a two-parter, so we had to kind of go through her travesties, her just fucking devastated war path for two episodes. That was very hard. Yeah. Taylor Banyard.
When are you quitting your job? Every opportunity. Every opportunity. That question in one form or another was asked actually quite a few times. So here's the conundrum, if I'm being completely honest.
I love my job. I love the work that I do. It feels meaningful. And I love the people I work with. It's my family law firm. So I have obviously a personal connection to it. That said, I do realize that the lifestyle I have right now that I've had for the past year is probably not sustainable.
for the long run. And we also want to blow things up on every front. We want to tour. We want to do way more on, you know, Patreon. And we want to maybe write a book. And there's all these other things that I can't say yet that I know we need my availability to just kind of like open these things up. Yeah. Well, not even to, I don't even know if it's for you to do more, just for you to like catch your breath a little. Yeah. So I don't know is the honest answer. Can I leave it at that? Of course. Yeah.
Tank lip update and how the nipple cream working. That's from Mary and Boston. Tank lip update was from somebody else, but I scrolled past it. And I'm happy to say my lips are pretty much fully healed. Yeah. The lesson here, if there is any lesson at all,
is don't vape. Yeah. It's a pretty big takeaway because I was hitting those, you know, bullshit, disposable vape things and the chemicals in there, that's not a regulated industry. You don't know what's in there. You have no idea. Let's say somebody puts the wrong thing in one of them one time. Yeah. Then your lips are on fire for four months. Remember? Chemical burn on your lips. Yeah, the week before your lips went on fire, do you remember what I said to you? Uh-huh. I'm like, you're hitting that vape
so much. I mean, that's what I do. Yeah, but it was a fever pitch. And then like the next week that happened. Yeah. No, I mean, I was, I don't do anything half. Yeah, you go all in. Yeah. I used to chain smoke. Then I chain vaped. Then you chain cigarred. Then I chain cigarred.
Then I chain smoked again. Then I chain vaped again. Now I chain chew Nicorette. Mm-hmm. One piece after the other. I'm going to be chain patching soon. Yeah? Yeah. Everything's a chain. All right. Chain gang. Call me chain gang. Just walk up the chain. Just keep doing things that are healthier and better than the thing before. True. Very good. And then I like to just...
Crash down. Back to smoking cigarettes. Yeah. It happens. It does happen. Any more questions you want to answer here? No, I feel like we probably have reached the... Well, here's a very important question I think we should address. This is from Brittany underscore four or five times. Why are you so jacked, Tank? Wow. I mean, somebody asked it, so you might as well answer it.
Help a homie out. This podcast helped me get through cardio. Oh, I did see that. Yeah. By the way, I don't know how anybody did cardio before Netflix, streaming, podcasts, entertainment. I would listen to music, but like... I can only work out to music. I work out to music, but I don't do cardio to music. Oh my God. I need that. It's the only thing that keeps me like pumped up. Really? I won't get on the machine if I'm not in the knee deep in the middle of a series where I need to know what happens next in an episode. I have to be. Yeah. Yeah.
All right. Is that how you get so jacked? You just, you follow a series that just, you can't stop working out until you get through that episode. Absolutely. Okay. All right. One more question. You have no more questions, right? That you want to read? I mean, I could keep going. We can make this a three hour episode. I know. Renata?
Okay. That's pretty good. I'll take it. Yeah. We got a lot of these and I'm just going to read this one. I don't have a question for you. I just want to tell you that you are the best love from Denmark. Got a lot of those from people. Thank you. And obviously you can't read all of them, but... We see them all. I see them all. And I mean, I don't want to say it's better than the question. The questions have been great, but...
when you're just there, like ready to appreciate somebody or something and you don't, you know, have any need to know more about them. There is like, there is something interesting about people who just like,
And I mean this in the best way possible. Don't care about us as people at all. Meaning they don't need to know what makes us go or how it went or whatever. They're just here for this. Right. For the podcast. I'm the type of person who needs to know. I like to know too. But we have a deep appreciation for everyone. Those who need to know and those who don't. I like to know some things. Oh my God. What? Braby underscore 96.
Why does Tank seem so pissed all the time? What the fuck, dude? He's not pissed at all. I'll tell you why. I know why. I know why, too. Why? Because you're uncomfortable by crime. Oh, no. You're upset. No, that's not what I was thinking. Tried to humanize you for a hot minute there. I just kind of look pissed off all the time. Oh, you have a pissed off resting bitch face type thing. Yeah, I mean, I would leave the bitch out of it because that's a different category. Well, you are a big purple bitch. I have resting pissed...
The sweatshirt. I have resting pissed off face. Yeah. Like I remember going into work one day after I shaved my head for the, you know, whatever, however many times I did it, but I had hair at this point. I shaved my head and my friend Ian saw me walk into work and he was like, bro, relax. What is going on with you?
I was like, what are you talking about? He's like, this, you look not good. Just maybe, you know, throw it out a little bit. Angry. Angry. That's a Chris Farley thing. I'm angry. I'm not. At least I didn't get my nose bit off by a Saigon whore. What the fuck? It's
It's a very famous Chris Farley line. Oh. Yeah. Norm Macdonald, dirty work. Oh, I'm sorry. No, that's not. That's a Norm Macdonald line. Okay. He says that to Chris Farley. There you go. And then they pan over to Chris Farley and his nose is flat. All right. Listen, listen. We got to wrap it up. I don't want to go on and on. I do, but I don't want to, you know, we got to cut this off at some point. Yeah, yeah. If we didn't get to your question, if we didn't get to your question, my apologies. Truly. I don't know. I couldn't say the sentence.
I don't know why it's funny when you mess up words, but it's infuriating when I mess up words. It's funny to me. Oh, so I get it. It's infuniating. Yes. Legitimately. That's a word I made up I really like. I like it. All right. So listen, what can we say except for thank you for being here for us, with us,
this whole time, or if this is your first episode you're ever listening to, you're just as welcome and just as family as anybody else. Yeah. So well said. It's all about family. It is. And if you leave, you're still family. Yeah. Thank you for being with us
The times you were. At any point in this journey. Exactly right. If you've come to us and said, well, I really like what they're doing. I know people do because the questions illustrated it, but the amount of work you put into doing this, it cannot be overstated. It truly can't. It's a lot. Thank you. And I know that. And what you bring is. You can't, I mean, it's equal to, if not more. Exactly what I was going to say. But funny how I didn't even need to say it, right? I knew what you were going to say. Yeah.
You honestly, you bring so much to this podcast. You bring not just the levity, but like true, deep, valuable insight, information, life experiences, street smarts, book smarts. I know you have just, you have so much to offer and you offer it. You give it to us. You sometime take it from me. I give it. But when it comes to our listeners, you are on the, you give us. I'm just trying to keep up with this genius.
A little twist on that. I know, I like it. All right, well, we got to wrap this episode up and I want to thank everybody for listening ever at all or to this episode. Find us on Instagram or on Patreon, patreon.com slash psychopedia pod. Get some merch, psychopediapodcast.com. And with that, I would like to give us
a blessing and a toast to one more year. At least. Well, I'll do it again. Oh, it's like an every year thing. Yeah, yeah. We got to renew this energy. I'm not just going to take it for granted that we're going to be doing this for 10 years. I could die. Okay. And on that note. And I would love to listen to your episode from heaven. Oh, okay. I'll make it a good one.
All right. Thanks for being here with us on this journey. Thank you so much for listening. We love you and we can't wait to continue on this journey with you. Bye. Bye.