Passing Notes w/Danneel Ackles (Rachel Gatina) • EP306
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Honey, well, listen, a lot happened this episode and Rachel was the spicy center of a lot of it. To prevent the cheer squad from fighting for the same guy, Brooke sets up this fantasy boy draft. It backfires, as predicted. Haley continues to work with Chris Keller as he pushes her to write better music. The mayoral race heats up between Dan and Karen. And Lucas is having so much trouble keeping up with the pace of basketball. It's just...

Things are dramatic in Trio this week. It is. It's a bit intense. We wanted you to come back for Rachel's introduction because it was the perfect curveball for our show. And since we didn't get to talk with you. Yeah, we needed her energy. Let's go back. Because as long as we're like looking at boy bodies in this episode, we might as well go back and remember the full display that you had to do with your cheerleading audition. Yeah.

Yeah, what was... How the hell did you end up on our show? What happened? Oh, yeah, that's right. Yeah, well...

Huh? I auditioned, but when I auditioned, I didn't have to do that dance. There was no, um, I mean, look, full disclosure. I was a cheerleader, but I was always the one that was like in the back row and I was a base. Same. I was like the lifter of girls. And I, I was like, never the one who could follow along with the steps. And I was always the one who was like,

counting along with my mouth. One, two, three, four. Like it's always that person. So it's like the kid in the play that's always mouthing other people's lines to them. Yes. Yeah. So I was always in the back. And so with, with Rachel and like her, you know, her first, um,

you know her introduction is you have to learn a dance and I remember getting the dance when I got to set and I was like oh they think I'm like a real performer who could just like learn this in a day like I need a month for this like I needed to so it was a lot um and I think it was to the whisper song it was really gross yeah turn up the volume is very scary it's um

It's pretty scandalous. Gus is obsessed with Star Wars right now. And I was explaining to him the viral sensation that was Star Wars Kid, like around that time. Do you guys remember that video? Yes, totally. And so we repeated it in those cheerleading tryouts. We had like a Star Wars Kid. And so I went to show him that. I was like, look, we referenced this in One Tree Hill. And then all of a sudden, Rachel comes out and starts doing her dance. And I had to like, oh, no. You're like, oh. He's like, oh, that's Daniil. And I'm like,

We're not going to look at Aunt Daniele like this. Yeah. Oh, my God. I don't remember how many times. I saw you this weekend and you told me you auditioned for a different character. Yeah. So I auditioned for Brooke. And at least I'm pretty sure it was Brooke. I was going through...

a record collection and being really bitchy, but not in a bitchy Peyton way. I'm pretty sure that was Brooke. That had to have been Brooke. It was a Brooke audition. So they loved you and brought you back then for this. Did you have to audition again for Rachel or was it like, we remember how much we love that girl, call her?

No. So it wasn't like a giant audition. I do remember that it was just like, you know, maybe like 10 of us or something. Yeah. But there were, there were a couple of girls and, but I do remember specifically, there was no dancing required and I was not told about any of that. And then I get there and I was just like,

So nervous. And I had to meet you guys all. I met all of you in like a Pamela Anderson outfit that was super tight. It was leather. It was vinyl. Maybe it was vinyl. It was so, it was a lot. It was nerve wracking. I think it was. We have talked about that dress because I had, as Peyton and as Hillary, had zero problem with it. It was just like, oh my God, look at her calves. Like, she's amazing. Yeah, you looked amazing. And what I like about the way you play Rachel is,

is I suppose any of those other girls auditioning could have played some of these lines really bitchy. Like, oh, is that your boyfriend? You know? Yeah. And Rachel from The Jump earnestly asks Brooke. She's like, oh, I'm so sorry. Is that your boyfriend? And Brooke's the one that keeps saying no, no, no. And so... Yeah. So...

Rachel doesn't necessarily get shitty with Brooke until Brooke is like clearly offended by her presence. And it kind of, it doesn't make sense. It's like, yeah, it really feels like it's, yeah, it's kind of all on Brooke right now. I mean, and Rachel's seems to be having a little fun with having fun with her about it because she's clearly so bothered and Rachel is clearly so not bothered. But, you know, when you see somebody that's all worked up about something,

It's fun. Joy, do you like to push a button here and there? I don't, but there are several kinds of people. And some people like to just kind of push buttons a little bit when you see somebody who's really worked up. I don't know. This whole episode, I'm like, Rachel's so nice. She's so friendly and genuine. I don't know. Why is Brooke so mad? I was, oh, who was it? I was really into Ivana Chubbuck.

The acting coach. She was like a famous acting coach. I think she's passed away now, but she wrote this really great book. And I remember for this specifically for this audition, I went back

um, through her book and I used, um, some of her techniques and what I discovered with Rachel is you never needed to play Rachel bitchy. And if you did, you know, that, that no one was really going to respond to her because the lines by themselves were so terrible that if you didn't say it with a smile or didn't say it with like, you know, I always gave Rachel the backstory of

you know, her parents traveled and she has been in a thousand schools and she expects to leave tree Hill. Um, she does not expect to be there. She's there. And what, how was it like we were sophomores or junior year? Cause we have one more year left to school. Yeah. Okay. So, I mean, she was just like, well, this is like, I've spent two previous years in different schools. Now I'm going to be here for just a second. And like, and she,

I wasn't supposed to be a series regular. I was only a recurring guest star. So it played that played into my backstory that was in my head of like, I'm just popping in here for a minute. Like I do every school and it's more fun. I'm just like, what? Like, okay, y'all are going to get all serious. Everybody's worked up about this, but I'm going to leave in a minute. So it doesn't matter. I don't need to invest too much. So her lines to me were always just kind of, they needed to be more flip it more like, Oh God,

That's so smart. And it tracks when I watch your performance. I see that choice. Oh, it's senior year. We just had that big like beach party where we're like, it's our last year of high school. That almost lends itself to being flippant because it's like, guys, we're out of here. Yeah. Don't be babies. Yeah.

You and your little boyfriends. How cute. Yeah. You're not going to know them. And Rachel would never know anybody long-term because of moving so much. So it's, you know, she doesn't develop those really strong relationships. And I think later, later on, not to be a spoiler, but that's, I think that's why she holds so close to mouth when they do become friends. Cause that really was her only thing.

true friend at tree hill brook a little but they always it got good and then it seesaw what was high school like for you for real i mean i know that you i listen i told on you i told the other girls that you were a pageant queen because oh yeah that that picture of you with the puffy sleeves and the scepter is like my favorite picture it's my favorite it's

Throughout my life, various friends, it's one of those things where I'll go over to people's house and they found it on the internet and printed it out. I'm like, okay, classic. I've seen this like a thousand times. I'm going to get a cardboard cutout of it and just have it here in the office.

I was the Cajun culture queen. And you know what? I'm proud of my Cajun culture. And I can tell you a lot about it. It was just like a thing to do where I grew up. Everybody did it. And I only did that one pageant, though. That was it for me. I wasn't like a full wiper. I did one and I won. What do you guys want from me? I did one and I won. I was like, okay, I'll check that. But, you know, I did a lot of things in high school. I had a lot of different experiences.

different friend groups. And, you know, I changed high schools my sophomore year, or let's see, middle of my freshman year, I changed from like a really small high school to a really big high school. And so I got to kind of reinvent myself, I think, as much as you can do in a town with like, you know, three red lights. So yeah,

I reinvented myself and everyone was like, no, no, you're no, you're still bad girl. We already know. But high school for me was fun. I don't have any like bad memories of high school. I enjoyed it. I mean, sure. I got my feelings hurt and I probably hurt feelings, but all in all, it was a good experience. Nothing quite like tree Hill. Well, I would say, yeah, but these kids go through. No offense to all the people I went to high school with, but like,

Tree Hill is like one of the most beautiful high school. Like, did you see all the cute boys? Like, is that normal? And the cheerleaders are super cute. I think this was during that era of like CW casting or Warner Brothers casting where they're like, literally every face has to be, you know, every face, every face has to be magical. That

That was a lot to look up to, though. But that's what you went to the CW for, if you were an audience member. Glamour. Like, you knew. Yeah. It was just all pretty. And that was the trope and the joke, right, about the network. Like, it's just all pretty people. Right. Yes. I don't know. Yeah, well, they were beautiful. I noticed that about Tree Hill. I was like, wow, this is a good-looking high school. Who would you have picked in the boy draft? Who would your pick have been? I think...

It'd be a toss up between, well, I think Nathan, because just because we were watching him run back and I'm like, this is a cute guy. Like, yeah, I don't know. Probably not Lucas because.

Are we talking about me or Rachel? You know, we can, we can be safe and say Rachel, like, who do you think Rachel? I don't think Rachel would be into all the philosophical poetry and all that. I think she would maybe roll her eyes at a bit. Like I wouldn't want to be on a date with someone as Rachel. And they, and they're like starting to quote poetry. Like I've,

No. Kill me now. Yes. I think probably Nathan, Chris Keller. I'm taking like all of your men. Joy, sorry. Those two maybe? Those two. How do I slap you in later events? Don't I throw a drink in your face? No, you throw a drink in my face. Why do we fight? We fight in an episode coming up soon, right? Why do we fight? I throw a drink in your... I do something with your husband.

Oh, cause you were after Nathan. That's right. Yeah. You did eventually decide. Yeah. That's what it was. But a lot happens to her. I mean, she has to overcome. I mean, there was like, you know, she was heavier in her younger years and, and Brooke put all those pictures up of her. So she's embarrassed in front of the whole high school. So I think like, then she starts to retaliate. She becomes, but yeah, you threw a drink on me.

And then slapped me. Do I slap you? No, because you're pregnant. The girls get in so many altercations on this show. I feel like you were pregnant. So I don't feel like I would have hit you. I think I was pregnant too. So maybe it's next year, next season.

Well, it's girl fighting that kicks off this whole boy draft. This idea that like the cheerleading squad is just fighting over boys. Yeah. And like physically fighting with each other. Bevan and one of the other cheerleaders have each other in like headlocks. I love how much screen time Bevan got this episode.

It was crazy. I don't remember that, but it's awesome. And I want to see more of her character with skills. Chemistry was so good. It was really unexpected too. It was sexy. To me, that was the most interesting scene of the episode because there was little fireworks happening on camera. It was great. Yeah. I can't wait till they come on the podcast.

Well, we've had both, but we need to get them together. They're both great comedic actors. And usually on our show, we use our comedic actors to lighten up the straight men. So like Lucas would get paired with skills to lighten the fuck up. You know, Peyton gets paired with people to lighten up. When we have these scenes where we've got two great comedic actors working together...

That's why the skills Barbara stuff is so good. It's so fun. Down the road. Yeah, I know. You know, we don't get to do a lot of it. It's usually just kissing and crying every once in a while. I want to giggle. Make me laugh. No, but I liked, I agree. I really liked that. It was good. It was very sexy. Friends, we all.

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He just did a movie with Sophia. Oh, that's right. He did that one in the motel room. Yeah. Yeah. I can't remember the name of it. Yeah. She was great. I remember her like in this specific episode, the director for some reason kept making her say that line skills to Bevan. Yes. Over and over. And like, I just remember that in my head. Like the minute she said skills to Bevan, I had like a traumatic flinch. I was like, Oh God.

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We can talk about that boy draft. We don't have to talk about things in order because when we saw that this was the episode we were watching, we were all like, ooh, ooh, because this was a hard one. It was hard to shoot. They had like 300 girls in a room.

And not only are you supposed to know your own lines, but you're supposed to know everyone else's lines so you can rapid fire, like, you know, talk one right after another. The timing has to be, yeah. It was impossible. And the director, I think, got very frustrated with us. She was kind of grouchy anyway. She did one episode of our show and was like, I'm never talking to you guys again. Never again.

never again. Yes. That is what, that is what I remember the minute I saw it. I also remember not understanding the boy draft at all. And I watched it again and I still don't understand. And I don't understand fantasy football drafts. So, and I don't know how that works. So maybe that's why I'm so confused, but I was watching it. I was like, I don't get it. Like,

Okay, so it's a date. Brooke was explaining it. Right. Yeah, Brooke's explaining it, and I still had trouble figuring out what the actual... Yeah. So nobody's allowed to... Like, that's the boy that you can chase for the entire season and no one else can chase after him? I don't like it. Is that what it is? I don't understand. I don't get it. I don't like the whole, like... I don't get it. When you're 16, 17... 16 years later. Yeah, 16, 17 years old, like, you've got to pick one boy

You know, like you're supposed to be chasing three or four at any given time when you're 16 or 17. It's like a real live version of MASH. Yeah. Like we were trying to do, you know, the piece of paper, MASH, marry an apartment shack house or whatever. Oh, that's what it is. Mansion, apartment, shack house. You never did this, Hillary? Of course I did this. Of course. But I was always like, I want to live in a castle with bats and, you know, like, I want to marry a vampire. Yeah.

I feel like Brooke was trying to create her own live, real-life version of MASH. Yeah, I was confused back then. I remain confused by it. I don't know what we were doing, but I knew I had to pick Lucas and it was to piss Brooke off. So that was the only important thing. Did you guys have, like, girl code when you were growing up? Like, was it, like, you and your friends made agreements, like, we're not going to like the same guy? Yeah, but it never worked. Right, yeah, exactly. I would agree with that. In fact, I remember...

I remember me and my friend both going out with the same guy, like in the fifth or fifth grade or something, fifth or sixth grade. And it was like, yeah, we're both his girlfriend. Interesting. We were so progressive. It worked for like four days. Yeah. In high school, we, I just was in a very small town. So by nature you were going to date somebody that somebody else's had already been with, but.

Sometimes that's good because you can learn a lot before you get into that relationship. So my best friend and I dated guys in college. So our senior year, we dated college boys and they were best friends. They had graduated two years before us and they were best friends and we were best friends and we would like double date and like super cute.

Until... Did your parents know? My mom would have killed me. Yeah, but we'd grown up in the same town. We'd known these guys since we were little. Like, it's not like they were, like, mysterious older guys. I'd known them since they were, like, you know, nerdy fifth graders. Although, immediately after graduating high school...

My boyfriend was 29 and I was 18. Yeah. Guys, come on. It's like you and Cooper. I dated a 28-year-old when I was 19 too. Yeah, poor choices. But these boys decided that they wanted to switch. They decided that I was a better fit for her boyfriend and she was a better fit for my boyfriend. Talk about progressive. Guys, no. I...

Was the bitch that was just like, we're done here. We're done. No, everyone's done. Oh, you didn't want to try it? I'm done here. No. Didn't Shania Twain do that? No, dude. I completely left the quadrant. I left the quadrant. Wasn't it Shania Twain? Oh, that's right. Shania Twain. Wait, what? They do-si-do'd spouses. Yeah, they did. With who? With who? So her husband started cheating on her with the best friend's.

The little couple they were best friends with, I think, y'all. We have to go back and look. But then, and then the other two were kind of like bonding with each other about it or something. And then they started, there was something about it. And so now is that the situation? They just did a full switcheroo and now everybody's happy again. There's still dinner parties. It's still just like, I don't know how happy it is, baby. Yeah. I don't know if they hang out necessarily. Do-si-do.

But disclaimer, none of us know Shania or anything about her life. But if she wants to come on and tell us all about it, we're totally game. Yeah. Shania, come explain. Yeah. I'm into it. Well, guys, this episode felt to me like it was a placeholder. Yeah. Like nothing happened. And all the things that were supposed to seem really meaningful, like Lucas's speeches and even a couple moments with Nathan and Haley, I guess, and

It all just felt like kind of a filler. Like they couldn't figure out what to do with this episode. And they just said, well, let's just do something fun. Nothing matters. Is it a spec script?

Oh, that's interesting. Because here's the deal. When they're hiring new writers or when they're like bringing new people into the writer's room, a lot of times they're like, just write a standalone episode so that we can pop it in whenever we need to pop it in. And this one really doesn't connect to anything, you know? No, the only connections are the Dan and Karen stuff and Dan and Barney's.

I always want to call her Barbara, Dan and Deb. And those are just continuations of a storyline that already started. But there's no real progression in either of those storylines. I didn't think her moving that sign was a big deal. I wanted her to do something really fast. I didn't understand that. She didn't deface it or anything. I know. You just had it towed. I was like, okay, so you got it moved. And you put a little bumper sticker on the back.

She was very nice, though. No, as an adult, we're so much more capable of vandalism at this age than we were when we were younger. What would you have done to it? I mean, at least, like, popped a giant poop emoji on the head or, I don't know, done some more with the, like, there should have been more diarrhea or something. Oh, more. You wanted more poop jokes. Oh, yeah. We wanted, like, poop.

I guess we weren't. It was too early in the series to like actually see a poop stain or maybe that would be like standards and practices would be like, no, no, no, no. But I wanted to see a poop stain. I love that Paul was so committed to that. Like when he was in Karen's cafe yelling at her and then like the way he kind of hobbled off.

I love he was like so game for anything. Yes. But I thought there was some really good like Brooke Rachel lines in there. And like there was definitely a lot of like if I look on my Instagram, some of those scenes are always on there because it's like the totally beaches moment. Oh, yeah. Love that line. Yeah. Just some of the early.

early Brooke Rachel face-offs, I think. And those were so much fun to shoot. Like, I just remember like being done with those and then laughing because they were so ridiculous. And, you know. You guys outbitching each other. It takes a big personality to stand up to Brooke, you know? Like, you cannot be...

a little bit intimidated or insecure. You have to out-Brooke Brooke in order to play the game with her. And so watching you two together is so fun because this is the first time we've actually seen Brooke kind of insecure.

Like, she wasn't insecure with Erica Marsh. She knew exactly who she was with Erica Marsh, you know? Yeah. This is fun. I also like the way when there's the Hayley-Brooke interactions because, like, Brooke is like, and Hayley's just like, yeah, you're okay.

So anyway, and it's like just so grounded and it's just like these two. I love it. I loved watching that. That's like every conversation y'all have in that episode was like that. It is. That's true. I loved seeing Brooke and Haley really getting a chance to play ball and bat around their friendship in the last season. It's been really fun. I like watching Haley and Chris.

Like, you want to talk about chemistry. You and Tyler have such good chemistry on this show. And so Chris. Thanks. That segue between them talking about something sucking and then Chris being like, the song sucks, you know? Yeah. Was a great segue. The only thing that's good about that song besides it being over. Yeah.

Yes. They always gave him great lines. He really did. He had the same hair as me in that episode. Hair color. I don't remember his hair. I don't remember his hair being red. I don't know why. I always remember it being like, it might have just been the light in the room, but it has the orange. The tint of the filter. Yeah. Yeah. There was like a neon, like a neon sign in that room, I think.

No. But he is a good catalyst for Haley. The conversation that you guys have in the recording studio is great because he's like, he's doing exactly what Nathan wants him to do. And that's to push her and get her to stop lying or stop pretending or being safe. And it is weird that he's the only person that can do that. And then when he comes into the cafe and he puts her name on the board. Yeah.

I totally forgot about that. Wait, what? No, I thought you did that. No, when Chris, oh no, she's talking about earlier when Chris came in and did that. Yeah. That was really sweet. And I love the Scott at the end. Oh, you know what made me think of that? Because they, it made me think of wanting to explain to the audience how they get those shots. Because the shot of Haley putting the Scott sticker on the map is,

transitions into the shot, a shot of the Scott letters on a, what is it? A locker or a Jersey or something. Yeah. But they have to measure that. So specifically with the camera to make sure that they're, the, the letters are going to line up exactly so that they can transit. And then how to pull back from that to, to get to the actor's face. Cause you're going from a super, super, super extreme closeup and then pulling back out to a regular size and,

You could be there for like over an hour sometimes on each end, trying to make sure that you get the, uh,

get you get the sizes exactly right and I always think those things are interesting for people who don't work in our industry to know that you just see a cool shot oh that's so cool they transitioned on the Scott name that's neat but um sometimes the technical stuff is kind of fun to learn so there you go no totally and I mean I'm sure people are always like it takes y'all how long to make a 40 minute episode over are we eight days oh my god because were we eight days yeah we were eight

Yeah. We spent seven of them like holding cupcakes in your apartment in this episode. Yeah.

The cupcakes. Okay, so listen. The props department is who supplies the cupcakes, right? They have to go out and get all the fake food. But they didn't get, like, 300 cupcakes for all 37 of these girls to eat in every single take. So the director's like... Well, they might have thought I was just going to put them, you know, on the counter. Yeah. Because they had meetings prior to this, like tone meetings and all these different sorts of meetings where...

Everything is discussed. And it was probably said that I would just put the cupcakes on the counter. And then maybe on the day, the director was like, no, no, no, she passes them out. And she wanted everyone to take bites of the cupcakes. Like, I remember that being like, she's like, these gotta look like these girls love these cupcakes so that Brooke is upset. Yes.

And so we've all had blue mouths because, you know, that icing from the grocery store cupcake. Because I have kids and it is like a disaster, that stuff. It doesn't come off. No. It does not come off. The great cupcake battle of the Fantasy Boy draft. It's so stupid, the things that you remember. It's so stupid. Because it's like, we filmed for eight days, but the cupcakes are the things where I'm like, oh, not those fucking things. Ugh. Yeah. Yeah.

Do you know what I have for you guys? Oh, what? I have a present for you. Sometimes my hoarding pays off and I have hoarded...

This Mouth McFadden boy draft card for the last like 15 years. My gosh. It's got stats on the back. Hold on. How do I hold this so you can read it? Okay. Yeah. Read them. What does it say? It says, number one, for your consideration, height 5'7", weight 190. In what world was Mouth 5'7", 190? I know.

Okay. Art department got a little creative here. It says born 10, 10, 89. Okay. So we know that mouth birthday birthday. It says, I'm the nice guy you've been waiting for exclamation mark. And then bullet pointed, uh,

like on our resumes when we have to do special skills. It says, stylish, smart, sincere, great conversationalist, and great dancer. Available now! Mouth McFadden!

Oh my gosh. That's awesome. I mean, this was literally, I stole this from set and I, it's been in like a photo op. You should send that to Lee. You gotta frame it in one of those frames that's glass in the front and glass in the back. I love him. You can get them at like Marshall's. They're cheap. Number one pick. He's a number one pick guys. No, she's a hoarder. She's not, she's not going to give that to him. Yeah, Joy, there's no way in hell he's going to get it. I'll maybe take a screen grab and send it to him. But,

I'm going to be 95 years old. Like, let me tell you kids about the fantasy boy draft. The cupcakes. You got to get him to sign it and then still keep it. That's a classic. I love him so much. By the way, he really is the best dancer. That's attractive. He is. He's a great dancer. Yeah. It really is. It makes a difference when a guy knows how to dance, doesn't it? Yeah.

It's nice. Okay, so what were you going to say before I interrupted you with my totally sweet trading card? I was going to say, well, there's two things. A, I really want to go back to figuring out what we would have done to destroy Dan's campaign because I think that's such a fun topic. But also...

Why the hell does Lucas care so much about being on the varsity basketball team? That he's willing to risk his life. What is going on? Well, I think he said, he said in the episode that he'd never felt like he had fit in before. And he'd finally found a group of people that...

you know, supported him and he felt, he felt safe and all of that. Didn't he say that? He did. I mean, it's not like he's hanging out with the bros. It's not like he's like, like got a connection with the team at all. And all the girls still want to hook up with him. So it's not like not playing basketball is going to ruin that. If again, it feels like a spec script. It feels like a standalone thing where it's like,

Lucas just really has to care about basketball so much. Yeah. He's only been playing for what? Half a year? Yeah. On the varsity team. I mean, obviously he's been playing his whole life and the Rivercourt men means everything to him and those guys mean everything. But that's the other thing. I mean, what about his Rivercourt friends? Aren't those the people that always made him feel like he belonged somewhere? So why is he, why is he suddenly all obsessed with the jocks at the high school who were always apples to him? Yeah.

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Oh, yeah. I don't think we have seen him at school before. I mean, maybe sitting in a classroom. Maybe. I don't know. How bad is Brooke at passing notes? Who thought that was a good idea? Do kids even pass notes anymore? Does that still happen? I got in big trouble, but it wasn't really passing a note. It was I left it in my pocket and my mom washed my pants and pulled it out and found it. And it was bad. Yeah.

It was like all about like the party that we had snuck out. And like, I don't know why my friend was writing in so much detail, but it was like all of it. She just like, and then at seven, she sent you up your window and went to so-and-so's house. And then I can't believe we stayed out until two in the morning. Can you, and, but it was just like, well, everything's there. My mom was like, okay, well you're coming. And I'm like,

Couldn't even get out of it because like every single detail had been described. No way, man. I got caught in like second grade. It was such a great idea you had, Danielle. Yeah, great. You're the best sneaker out ever. My mom did the same thing. She found a note in my pocket that I was the middleman. This girl, Jade, wanted me to pass this note to her cousin in my class. And my mom finds it in my pocket and it was just one sentence. It said, fuck you, Leon. And it was second grade. My mom found it.

And it was just like, who's Leon? It has to be another t-shirt. I really need that t-shirt. You Leon. You Leon. No. I used to pass notes all the time. We used to, I went to high school in New Jersey in a building that had been around for probably since like the 30s or 40s. So we had these old radiators that were on the sides of the rooms. And it was close enough to the desk where

You could count how many slats in the radiator there were. And you could like, so there was this little note space for notes. And I would slide my notes for my friend who was coming into the next class. So we would all leave the classroom and then he would come in and sit down. And my note would be there next to the desk. Yes. This was like my best friend in high school. And so I would always leave a little, I would leave little notes in there. We would like trade past notes back and forth in the radiator. That's hot. I know. Yeah.

Pardon the pun. Oh, well, I didn't even mean it.

Oh, mom jokes. No, I think like – I love it. I'm just thinking like if that was in a movie, that would be like a sexy little thing to do is to have like a little hidey hole in public. You know what I mean? Yeah. Like that's what makes it so cute. It's the, you know, the sixth – it's like the sixth flat or whatever it was. You know, you'd always say whichever desk you ended up sitting by. Be like, number eight. Yeah, what happens if someone else leaves a note there one day? Ooh. I know. Are y'all – like I'm always more scared –

I mean, I like to journal, but every time I journal something, I'll then shred it because I'm so paranoid of like keeping notes and letters because it's like, oh my gosh, it's so permanent. And then yet I will text a lot of crazy stuff. And I'm like, like,

Like just a digital footprint. Something about, yeah, it's just a digital footprint. It's just going into the cloud and anybody can access it. But like, as far as like notes, I'm like, you gotta shred this. It's probably some like trauma from high school, but I'm like. You got caught.

Yeah, I got caught. I'm like, better shred this note. But yeah, I'm always, I'm always like so scared to write things down now. No way. Haven't you seen Bridges of Madison County? After Meryl Streep dies, her children find all of her like mysterious things. She dies? I think that's how the movie starts. It's her kids and they find all her shit in the attic and they're like, mother had a life? Mother. And a photographer?

No, keep the notes. Let your kids think you're interesting one day. I love keeping all that stuff. I'm a total paper hoarder. There's a lot of stuff that I'll throw away, but paper, I have...

bins of note cards and greeting cards that people have given me from birthdays and things from like, you know, 20 years ago. Oh yeah. I keep all that stuff. I have a box full of notes from high school that I passed back and forth with my friends. That's not true. Hillary, I have a birthday card you gave me for my 26th birthday. And if I ever come on this podcast again, I will bring it because she would draw like elaborate pictures. Remember you, Jobe?

And you're like, don't worry, you're not too old. Because I was like the oldest one. Don't worry. What a dick thing to say. I was always like, oh, so old compared to everybody else. God, I'm so old. Thank goodness we didn't have so much social media. We didn't have any social media. No. No, we were safe. Nobody could really comment on that.

Because I remember like watching 90210 and my mom being like, Dylan McKay is 400 years old. None of these people, because he had all like the forehead wrinkles. Yeah. But yeah.

It was like, no, we didn't know. We didn't need to know what people were saying about us. We just passed our own little joy. And I had a notebook that we would pass between our trailers and you decorated the front of it. And it was called trailer trash. And we would just talk in this journal and pass it back and forth so that we have it. You, you do.

I found it in my storage unit. Interesting. There needs to be another podcast. Yeah. Trailer trash. Trailer trash. Yes.

That's it. Cause it's like you, you do the scene and you know, you're just like, Oh God, I'm exhausted. Now I got to sit around for four hours while they shoot a different scene. And I don't know what to do for the next four hours. And so you write to your human journal joy. And you're like, did you check out this on set today? And did you know who's kissing who? And did you know what happened after work on Wednesday? Yeah.

We had a grand time. That's great. Yeah. I love the, I love the traveling notebook and I, you, I've actually used this, um, in raising my daughter. It's really helped with communication because, um, she would, we, I started out with, uh, when she was writing, kids start writing about, um, what five, six years old in kindergarten. They're like putting together real basic sentences. Um,

So if she was mad, she just shuts down. She will not speak and have a conversation. So I, and she would go in her room and close the door or she would, we weren't allowed. I didn't let her have a fully closed door until a certain age. So she, you know. I took it off the hinges. She's got no doorknob. Slightly ajar. And so I would write, are you mad at me? And then slide it under the door. And then she would write, yes, and slide it back. Yeah.

What happened? Slide it back and shoot. And so we would do that and we have kept doing that. I think the last time we did it was eventually I graduated to a notebook because it was a little easier because, you know, I had to keep going to find pieces of paper. But

And I wanted to keep them forever. It gave her the freedom to have, to share her emotions without the scariness of having to, you know, say things out loud sometimes. So anyway, it's a fun tool for any parents out there who are trying to figure out how to get your kids to talk to you about scary things or their emotions or whatever. I like that a lot. That's a good one. Gus employed that joy. Like, I remember finding a note

on the kitchen island that said, mom is dumb, D-O-M. And he was trying to say dumb. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Mom is dumb. And so Jeff will still yell that at me. He'll be like, mom is dumb. Notes are the way to my heart. Even if you're being kind of an asshole, I love the written word. Me too. What would you do if you found a boy draft note in your daughter's pocket?

I would laugh so hard. I don't know. I think that's hysterical. Yeah. Like the idea of Davis's kids finding a boy draft and it being all the names of all of the like uncles and like people she knows in town. That's horrifying. We don't think about it in context like that. It's a stranger. Yeah.

Fine. My youngest daughter, you know, those little jewelry box, you open it up and there's like a little ballerina. Yeah. Rolling around. So she has one of those. And I, I was putting away some of her little like stretchy bracelets and I opened it up and I looked in there and she has in there and she just graduated preschool. She has in there perfectly positioned a little boy, his picture, his school picture, put it in there. And I was like,

what's this? And she told me his name. And I was like, is this like a special friend? And she's like, I just didn't want to lose it. And I was like, she's like, it's really special. And I'm like, that's adorable. Like, it's really cute. I'm here for young love. Me too. I love it. Man. It's the best. You're never too young to have a crush. I don't think it just means you like people. Well, this new generation, yeah.

Like Jeff and I don't understand. We were both like in love from preschool on. Like I have been in love my entire life. Jeff was in love his entire life. Gus is like computers. Do you know what I mean? Kids now are just like, I don't know. That seems like work. You guys are a lot. This is really intimidating. I don't understand that. Can I find love in Minecraft? Yeah.

One of mine. So at least we know one is a romantic. I was like, that's great. Is the older one fun? Is she, is she a flirty girl? No, no, she's serious. No, she's very serious. Like not a flirt. No, no. And I don't really think any of them. I, she, my nine-year-old recently had a slumber party and I mean, third grade slumber parties, we were talking about boys. They didn't, they did not mention one boy.

Interesting. Oh, wow. Well, that's good. They're evolved. We were just like monsters. Yeah. Yeah. They did each other's makeup, which is hilarious, but not in a serious way. They like blindfolded each other.

And did it all like crazy. See, that's what we should have been doing at the apartment. Yeah. You know? Yes. The apartment's a good set. By the way, though. So, okay. So Sophia's not here. Everybody at home knows that she's doing romantic things, which is very cool. But I love in this episode, the apartment, you know, she's like the French Riviera and Rachel corrects her. But isn't that like where Soph got engaged? Yeah.

Like, has life come full circle? Oh, that's interesting. Positano, right? Wasn't that sort of the area that she was? Guys, I don't know. I'm just some bumpkin that lives in the country, but I think so. I don't either. Hold on. Somebody. Oh, no. No. Is Lake Cuomo different? Lake Cuomo. I don't know the difference. Isn't it the same? It's off the same coast. Come on, guys. They were in a boat. Right.

Rachel's lines. I am not. I don't know. Yeah. Lake Como is Italy. Yeah. Okay. Talk about Rachel being smart though. Cause I loved that bombshell this episode with the Supreme court case. Oh my gosh. That was great. Yeah. She's very smart. And she does that throughout, I think all of her time at tree Hill, she's always pulling out something like that. But I mean, again, like when you're, you know, popping around to all these different schools, I mean, I feel like there is part of her that's like,

she just kind of buried herself probably in her studies. And, you know, we learned later that her parents aren't very, um,

present because she and Brooke share that in common. Um, well, I guess really nobody Hill. Yeah. I was like, no one, we were the Charlie Browns of, um, real life. I guess no one's parents were really that present. Yeah. No, but I like that. You also are so smart in real life, Danielle. Like when we had to do that Maxim cover, um,

We had to go sit down and do an interview, and it was Soph, Daniil, and myself. And this reporter's asking us questions, and we were very aware of what that kind of magazine wants you to be. And, you know, like the whole, like, bimbo mentality. And as we're answering all these questions, I was like—

Do you understand that Danielle's the smartest one at this table? Like she's the one that graduated college. Like she's always been like the honor student. Like Danielle is the smartest person at this table. And Danielle's all like, oh no, no, no, no. But in real life, you're also just memorizing a couple of facts that will. Yes. Yes. The human head weighs eight pounds.

Right. You just spit out a couple of random facts and be like, oh, if she knows that, she must know more. Mm-mm. Mm-mm.

It's a long time. That is not true. You are an incredibly successful woman in so many different arenas, and it's because you're so smart and intuitive. And that doesn't happen by accident. Well, yeah. Oh, look, she's a business owner. Look, I've got our family business beer shirt on right now. And that wasn't even intentional. Do you want me to go get my booze bottles? We were going to do a... No, no. No, no. Yeah. Hey, where's my booze? The booze is...

is coming do you guys think it's it's weird that as adult women we went from one tree hill to all kind of venturing into the liquor business or the like the alcohol no i don't find that is it a coping mechanism this just made us all luscious tracks perfectly well yeah what is rachel doing right now yeah

Does Sophia have a... Yeah, she's a Johnny Walker. Wine. Oh, yeah. And wine. And grants and wine. I figured there might be something about wine coming, but I didn't know. Mm-hmm. What's Rachel doing now? Where did Rachel end up? I don't even know. Dan dies, and then what happens? We talked about this. You took all his money. I think that I just took all his money and left. That's amazing. We might have to ask some fans to help us out. But I...

Yeah. I'm going to do like a little research on her. Cause now I'm interested watching that. Watching those episodes is really fun.

It's really fun. Like all the emotions. And I know I've heard y'all talk about it, but like when you actually watch it, it just makes me happy. Well, you were saying that you have like muscle memory. Like you remember some of the lines, right? I was remembering my lines. I was like, oh my gosh, I remember this. I remember what comes next. I remember the scenes. I remember what she's going to say. Probably because I was like just starting out and I was so paranoid all the time that I was going to forget stuff. And then I did. And then

I get screamed at. Like, you should know your lines. And I'm like, I do. I'm just so nervous and scared. I can't remember them. Aww. I know. My favorite part of watching this episode back is when the cheerleaders are fighting in the classroom and they said something really mean. Like, he's not into horror or something like that. Yeah. Daniil, in real life, guffawed. And then...

Rachel laughs like you laughed on cue in. You're like, it's funny. I don't care. It's still funny. It was funny then. It's still funny. Yeah.

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Should we do some listener questions? I think we have a couple. Sure. I like listener questions. Okay. There's a question about musical theater and then another question about, I like Ariana's question. Let's start with this one. She says, was it hard to be mean to someone when your characters didn't get along and you actually adore the real life actor? For example, what about Tyler Hilton and James Lafferty, Sophia Bush and Danielle Ackles? Hmm. Hmm.

Oh, I think it was fun. We kind of talked about that a minute ago. Like those, it was, it was so fun. And I remember just like, Soph and I just like busting up laughing, like right after those scenes. Cause it was like hard. It was, it was hard to keep a straight face and do those. That was one thing I remember because like, you had to be so intense and like, Sophia is like, so like,

Brooke is like so over the top and so fast and all this, and you want to laugh anyway, because it's funny. Like she's funny when she's doing it. And I just remember it being like hard not to laugh.

That's it. It's hard not to laugh because it's just so absurd how to be mean to someone that you really love. That's so ridiculous. It's way more awkward when you actually hate the person because then you have to pretend like you don't in between scenes and you're like, great work today, fucking asshole. You know what I mean? That's way more awkward. Yeah, when it's your friend.

Go all out. Fine. But if they have an inkling that you don't like them, you have to pull the performance back a little bit just for the sake of politics. Yes. Bring it back. It's true. All right, we have another question from Jackie. As a huge musical theater nerd, I love when y'all talk about connections to the theater and your love of it.

If there had been a full musical episode of One Tree Hill. Oh, my God. We used to ask for that. What we did. What would you have wanted to sing? And I'd love to know what your favorite musical is. Danielle loves singing. OK, my favorite musical from. Yeah, I love I do love singing. I just don't let other people hear. But I recently had a conversation with Joy and she said she was going to help me with that. Yeah.

Oh yeah. Thank you for reminding me. I'll send you those. I'll send you those links. Thank you. I do remember it. I didn't have that much champagne. Right. That was really early on in the night. No, my fate, my first favorite musical was Oklahoma. My parents had the record and I would listen to it over and over and over and over and sing all the songs. And yeah,

Yeah. I just loved it. And I actually sang it this weekend quite a bit in my head. In your head. You're just walking around. Joy, what's your favorite? I mean, I could always watch Les Mis. Always, always. Yeah. And South Pacific. South Pacific is one that has no boring moments for me. There's no dip. There's no, I'm, I'm interested in every single moment that's on stage. Um,

I really loved Tommy the first time I saw it. The Who's Tommy. But it's been a while since I've seen it on stage, so I don't know. I think those are my favorites. I love Into the Woods, of course. Oh, yeah. The second act is depressing. I don't know, like 25 minutes too long. Yes, yes. What's yours? Funny Girl. Funny Girl. Oh, yeah. Yes. You know, seeing it as a kid and then having it

parts of it come to fruition in my adult life. You know, that scene where all of a sudden she gets called up by the Ziegfeld Follies and she's like, oh my God, oh my God, I did it, it's overnight. Like getting called up by TRL off the street. You know, I was just like, oh my God, it's happening. You know, and the relationship stuff of like,

having been with men in my past that didn't love that I was successful, you know? Like there were so many parts of that movie that as a kid, I was just like, this is razzle dazzle. I want to be an actress just like Fanny Bryce. And then those life lessons just hit hard with a, yeah, a sweet Barbra Streisand solo here. She's genius. Did you see funny girl in London when they did it with, um,

No, they're doing it right now. I can't remember that. In New York. They're doing it again. Oh, they are? With Beanie Feldstein. Oh. Oh, Beanie, that's right. She's doing it. I haven't seen it yet. You know, I love her. I think she's great. Normally when I go to the theater, I take my son. And so I don't know how into Funny Girl he is. I actually promised him we're going to go see Little Shop of Horrors.

Oh, yeah. Tell Tammy I said hi. That's a fun show, man. You would be a good Audrey, Danielle. I would love to. Oh, Danielle would make a great Audrey. Yes. We'll be her backup. We'll be that. We'll be the do up singers in the background. That's right. Yeah. Those are the songs you would make singing. Yes. OK, I'll practice that. We'll start with that. Yeah. Suddenly Seymour. Yes. Yes.

Go for it, babe. That's so fun. Those are good questions. Um, Danielle, should we spin? Oh, wait, we didn't talk about if there had been a musical episode of the show. Oh yeah. Let's go back. I mean, I don't, I don't know. Like it's hard to tell. I'm trying to think of songs back then.

Like a song that what like embodies your character or just like a group song or I don't know what you think. Glee was like a jukebox musical. They would take pop songs and make them like the characters narrative. What song embodies your character? Like pop song. I mean, in this season, it's ain't too proud to beg, right? Please don't leave me. Don't you know? Yeah. I mean, yeah.

I don't know. What's that for? I'll fight you for the candle box. I am going to punch you in the neck with the candle box. Daniil loves signing other people up for karaoke and then making them sing the song while she's yelling at the audience. It's karaoke, bitches. I did sing for non-blondes recently. You did? That's a good one. Yeah. Actually, with Renee, our head of development at our pod. So it's really fun. Okay.

Okay, should we spin a wheel, guys? Do it. Let's do it. Okay, go ahead. What does it say, Danielle? Who is most likely to travel the world in their van? So who is most likely to travel the world in their van? You have to pick a character from the show and a real-life person. But I think we know the answer to this. Chris Keller? Oh, sure. I can see Chris on the show doing that.

Yeah. But in real life, it's you, dude. You've got the big, huge like Astro van. We're all together this weekend. And Daniil rolled up in a van that my husband thought was like the van that was supposed to take us from the hotel to the venues. He thought it was like the hired van. Oh my gosh. The shuttle. Take their family on the road in a van. It is me. Yeah. It's you. Did you have to get like a like a CDL license to drive that thing?

No, no. And we used to have a boat. And I think I actually, I got a license for that because I thought everyone should, but it's not required. What? Yeah. Well, listen, when we go on the road with the Drama Queens tour with our wine, wine suitcase, you can be our bus driver. No worries. I got it. I got it.

Drama Queens tour. We are working on that folks. Feel free to send us some info about if you want us to come to your city, email us. Yes. Austin. We want you to be fun. Yes.

Stay weird. Okay, next episode, season three, episode seven, Champagne for My Real Friends, Real Pain for My Sham Friends. This is one of the ones that I remember this title and I think of it often for some random reason. I guess it just stuck in my head. I don't know what the episode's about, but I bet I'll remember it when we start watching. Yeah, you will. Hope you'll join us. Thanks for hanging out with us today and we'll see you next week. Bye. Thanks, Danielle. We love you guys. Bye. Bye.

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