Let's Draft...with LA Rams General Manager Les Snead (Part 2)
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I can't pick anymore. Even with categories, you were just saying the categories and, you know, reliable starter. I literally was like, oh. If you're fortunate enough, right, to let's call it have tenure. Mm-hmm. And I call it earn experience. Mm-hmm.

And then disciplined enough to apply that experience. Like it makes it a little bit easier. Like, oh, no, been there before. Not doing that one. But trust me, you have to you have to, in my case, be a part of drafting a buyer beware. And oh, by the way, that buyer beware biting you in the ass to go, you know what?

That reliable starter just seems so refreshing. Okay. But so I would say your wife would probably say, Christy would probably say that you, if I had to put you in a category, so there's a new category, which is called a reliable changer.

So I'm taking math changer category and I'm combining it with reliable starter because to me, you are in fact a math changer, like everything that you've done throughout your life, where you are, you know, your brain, the way that you think, what you've done with the Los Angeles Rams. So you're a math changer, but you also...

From everything I know of you, you are incredibly reliable. And I've said it, you know, as we've been talking for however long we've been talking for that you're very level. You're very level-headed and you're logical. You're a thinker. And to me, that makes you very reliable. So I would like for you to add for me on my board that

reliable changer category. We'll do that. I mean, I know it's shooting for the stars. I actually look at me as I'm going down to the four, I'm going down to our bucket six, which really is like, it's a bucket that kind of says you're less talented, but more allowable, more overachiever. And I've actually always thought I'm more, I'm not one, two, three, I'm down. But the neat thing about those type of guys, it could be,

Like Pooka Nakua. You know what I mean? There's something that I call it. Something intangible that's going to be, you know what? We're going to make it. But I appreciate the compliment that I have some math changing capabilities. You do. And I said that you were incredibly humble and you just proved me correct. So there you go. All right. So we're going to do a board. You know, we can set up all these different sort of categories for me. Okay. But I'm the one who has to essentially recognize...

With others help that that person is in the buyer beware category. And instead of running towards it, like I have my entire life, I'm going to, the minute they go in that category, they're, they're going to give you perspective though. Yeah. You can forgive yourself. Yeah. Like I grew up in a small town, about 12,000 in Alabama.

And oh, by the way, if I could have been on 90210 instead of stuck in that town, oh, I would have chased some definitely chased some buyer bewares. You know what I mean? So I'm just giving you perspective that, you know, it's probably probably a good run. I understand. But, you know, I was going to I think, you know, I think jealous we were of.

Yeah, but that was my particular destiny, right? Just like what you're doing is your particular destiny. I do believe that we all have a destiny. And yes, you know, God gives us as humans free will. So we are capable of making the correct or the wrong decision to take us off that path. Yeah.

My path was sort of wrapped up with my parents and us moving here and just going to church and getting discovered, doing plays at church. That path was set for me when I was very, very, very young. Versus...

You know, dating, starting to date at like 18-ish and just loving the buyer beware category. Just loving those bad boys, loving that, you know, loving the chase, loving the complexity of it. Here's a good one. Now take who they are really out of it. I only know their characters. But go to Little House on the Prairie. Michael Landon. What was the...

Character he played? He was the dad? He was the dad. I mean, is he reliable starter? I know he's not buyer beware. He seems like he's reliable starter. Like that's... He's math changer. That's what I thought. That's your category you came, reliable changer. Yeah. Like he's... Yes. There was no buyer beware. No. No.

At least in his character. And my dad, by the way, was Reliable Changer. It's funny. It's not like I, you know, had men around me when I was young that were in the buyer beware category. So that's what I grew up with.

associating with and thinking like, oh, that's the normal. It's quite the opposite. Like the men when I was younger in my life were, you know, people that you look up to that became your mentors. I mean, I probably like fell into a very bad relationship when I was like 18, 19 years old. And maybe that just sort of set me going off.

Maybe it's because, you know, my dad was really, really sick. So I didn't want to choose from the reliable changer category because a reliable changer might change.

Might look at me and say, you're the buyer beware category. You're in that, Shannon. Awareness is the key to life. Yeah, I know. Or one of the keys. Maybe they would leave me. And because I was already facing, you know, my father and him, his health and feeling like he was going to leave me through death, that I went with what was a little bit safer to protect my heart. But the point is, is I...

Did your heart still get broken in the end? Not that badly. Not that badly. Like maybe one or two. Like I think even like I had a really good boyfriend when I was in my twenties. His name was Rob Weiss and we were together for seven years and he was phenomenal. I don't, he was definitely not in the buyer beware category. He's probably like reliable changer category. In that relationship. What were you doing? I was too young. But what were you, what, what,

What television show? I think it was towards the end. I know it was during Charmed, but it might have crossed over in a sum of 90210 as well. It was right after I got fired from 90210, actually, is when I met him, I think. Was he in the business as well? Yes. That's what I was wondering. I can easily see...

In the analogy or metaphor, whatever the heck we're doing here, I can easily see the let's call it the reliable start of being like intimidating that, oh, I'm dating one of your I'm dating Brenda. Well, I mean, that's and I'm just I don't know. I'm just a.

An accountant. Yeah. But I'm a good accountant. Right. But that's intimidating. Yeah. You're probably intimidating if you'd have been an accountant. Probably. Yeah. Probably. That's just my personality. You'd probably have been a hell of an accountant. A hell of a CFO. The budget would have been met. That's very true.

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So I have had a few, you know, even my second husband who is a hundred percent in the buyer. It's not, he, he wasn't even buyer beware. He was in the, like, do not go there. You do have a category. Like,

Yeah, he was in that category. They're off the board. I adore him. Like still to this day, I don't regret that marriage. I don't regret knowing him. I'm still friends with him, Rick. I still like we laugh hysterically together. He's one of the funniest human beings I've ever met. But then all the others, I'm like, oh, God, like, why? Why did I do this? So self-awareness, I get it.

So reliable starter is probably the category I should be looking in. I don't know. But I really want to go in a reliable changer. Yeah, I think... Yeah, I don't know if you can... And again, I don't... Whoever's listening, if you're an accountant, that's... I'm not knocking you. We're just trying to use analogy. But what I do know is I do think you... If you're drafting, you should draft a reliable changer. Like you... I don't know if you can...

You need a math changer because you're a math changer. So I do often say that, but if you're a math changer, you probably need a math changer. And with that, there's probably going to be some frictional moments, but I do think, I do think that would be best knowing. So I like your new caliber, your changer that's reliable. Right. So now it's like, how do you like, now we have to figure out how we're going to start drafting because you know,

I'm a homebody. I don't like leaving my house. I'm the girl who... Now there are apps for this. A dating app seems weird. I don't have a number of social media, so I've never...

Yeah. When I've seen my friends swiping, I'm like, this is how it gets done these days? Wow. I feel so uncomfortable with that. Basically, I think I just have to listen to... I have to rely on other people to set me up because... Well, Christy tried to set me up, but it was too soon. After my separation, I wasn't really ready for it. But yeah, I think I've got to... Can you imagine just... Let's just go back. A reliable starter swiping, y'all meet, and he's like, holy shit, this is Shannon Doherty. Like, that's...

I wonder how that first date goes. That's what I'm saying. I thought I was just, I don't think I could. I thought I was going to meet a contributor. I've met a math changer. I love these categories. I'm writing this down. A contributor. Wow. I like that one. Yeah, that's why I'm not going to, there's apparently there's other apps that are more targeted towards people like YouTube.

high up in their businesses, CEOs and actors or producers. Farmers. Farmers. But by the way, yeah, farmers. Whenever I go to the South, I'm like, I just need to marry a good Southern man and I'll be fine. That's the way to go. And there's some that...

you know, the things that they're doing and, and, and with agriculture. So yeah, farmers, like any of them, but there are those special apps, but it just doesn't feel like a very, I'm too old for apps. I'm just too old. Eliminate the apps. I'm too old for apps. And then there's also, and one of the things that I, it seems like that wouldn't be fun. Anyway, there's an element of,

Right? Like what about that excitement of just walking in a room and there's that spark. That's that, there's that palpable electricity between two people. That's more what I, that's the experience I want. Wait, we just. But you're a homebody. So, but you know, what's neat in this go back to football too. So people are going to have to bring them to me. How are you getting the categories too? What's interesting in football is I always go, every football player doesn't fit every team. Like there's schemes that teams run where,

A player could be good in this scheme, but not good in ours based on their skill sets, right? They just are not all good football. It's more like a square and a rectangle and a square. But end of the day, that's how you get on our board, right? How do you help the Rams? And we have these and we need these skill sets. So that's kind of what you're going through now. And all coaches have to go through that because what they did last year isn't going to be good enough

This year or next year. So you're always evolving. So that's kind of what you're, you're going through now. You're, your schemes evolving. We've got to figure out what the critical factors are. Right. And one of them is obviously not meeting on an app. Definitely not. There's also the thought that I've had that,

I said something on one of my podcasts, one of the episodes, where I said that, you know, if my protocol worked for a long time, I would like to adopt. And somebody on my social media made a comment and said, what a, you know, selfish human being that she would adopt a child when even if her protocol is working, she's probably going to be dead in five years. And I was like, ouch. Yeah.

It's definitely the thought process that also goes through my brain as far as meeting and dating someone because I'm like, God, who really wants to get involved with the stage four terminal cancer girl except the buyer beware category? You know, I would disagree. Really? Now, obviously, we're talking about you're going to pick someone that

That's your scheme. But your scheme in this case, right, is we've eliminated a lot of people. Yeah. But based on probably age, here's the neat thing about you. If you tell me I have to find a 98-year-old, I'm going to laugh. That would be interesting. That could be a math changer. Like technically bank account math changer, but I'm not going there. But that could be. Money's math. The Excel spreadsheet gets –

But point where I know that's not a scheme fit, but the here's probably what you have going for you, which is neat is if someone did get involved with you, they would come into it knowing even if you weren't Shannon Doherty and you probably could Google. And that's one of the first things that comes up. Right. Your health adversity. But you would probably tell them at some point. Right. So that the neat thing is I truly think we can find reliable changer.

You sound like an assistant coach, right? And that's talking the GM into, hey, you know, let's take this buyer. I can, you know what I mean? But I know you're not. You're actually saying this is the only thing that we can settle for. So in a draft now, okay, it's going to be a little tougher to find this scheme fit. So we may have to trade up, right? We may have to trade up and work to make this decision work.

But I still think we can find the reliable change. It's going to take a little work. It's going to take a lot of work. And I'm really counting on you, Les. So you're going to be in charge of that. And I know that you have a busy season. You're right in it. What we are going to do is what we're going to partner together is we're not going to marry a buyer beware. Marriage is like off the table for me unless it's a reliable change. So we're only marrying reliable change. Yes.

For sure. I don't know what I'm signing up for. That could get tough, but we'll see. I mean, look at what you did with the Rams. You can, listen, I had to call in somebody to help. And I just looked at your record and went, that's the man for it. So I'm putting my love life into your hands. Good luck with it, Les. My wife, Carrie, would tell you that would be what not to do.

What not to do. Don't put him in charge of you're in charge. And you know what? It's really good practice for you. I'm actually doing you a favor because you're going to have to do this with your daughter. Like as she gets older, she may be dating now, but like we said, she's probably, or like you said, she's probably not quite in that. Okay, here we go. So, but she's head over heels for Barbie where you've been a daughter. What does a dad do? Like I, we have, we actually, it's pretty cool. We have a team psychologist. Yeah.

That like helps our players get through stressful times on the field, off the field. And I've definitely chatted with her like, okay, this is what my daughter has done. This was my response. I know that's exactly what not to do. How do I clean up this mess? So, I mean, and I know your daughter and she's, she's a good girl and she's got her head on straight, you know,

We're girls and we stumble on occasion. And she will. She'll probably have a few stumbles in life. But I can only tell you what my dad did with me. And I would say that my father was the best dad ever. Because if you're capable of being your daughter's best friend, if your daughter feels like you're her best friend, meaning she can come to you no matter how bad something is.

She still can come to you and have a conversation and feel safe with you. You may get upset, but she knows you're always going to be there. You're always going to love her. And you're probably going to help her get out of the situation. That's, that's being the best father and the best friend to your daughter. And I think, yeah, it didn't really matter what I did. I always felt like I could go to my dad and talk to him about it. And, um,

Because of that with him, people think, you know, some of the stuff I did when I was young was bad. It was nothing compared to what it would have been if I didn't have a father like that. And even though I'm, you know, obviously I adore and I love my mother and I respect her and she's, you know, a hero to me now. Back then I was much closer to my dad just because my mom was a disciplinarian. And it was nice to have that connection.

Yeah.

I'm still going to be here for you and I'm still going to love you. And I'm, I'm always going to have enough money to bail you out of jail. You're good. Maybe a night jail is good for you. Sometimes. All right. I'm not going to hold you up anymore because I want you to go make my board and start on my future. And, you know, cause you have busy stuff to do with the Rams, but less. Thanks. Enjoyed it. Yeah. This was a lot of fun. Had a blast. All right, cool. Thanks for listening. You guys see you next time. Bye.

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