Let's Be Real...with Brian Austin Green (Part 2)
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Because as you know, and as some people may know, I did not want to do it. I didn't either. Yeah. I wasn't going to do it. Luke and I had had many meetings and conversations where we had both decided that neither one of us were doing it. And instead we were going to do our own show. And we had a couple of different ideas and producers that we wanted to work with. And then Luke passed. Yeah. And, um,

You are really the one. I was still sitting on the fence. I wanted to honor him, but I didn't want to revisit that. I didn't want to revisit the emotions it might bring up. It just felt like I was going backwards. Right. And you're really the one that said to me,

And you were the only one, by the way, the only one when we got to set and even before negotiating and talking about wardrobe and all these things. We talked about it again at Luke's wake at the house. We were sitting, your mom was there and you were sitting on the back of the couch. I remember it. Like I remember the conversation when that came up. But you were the only one who knew that I had cancer, that it had come back and that it was stage four. And yeah.

I will say you're the main reason next to, besides Luke, that I did that show. And what's really funny is that I'm very happy I did it because, you know, you had your moment where you were like, oh, I am funny. I can do comedy. I think that was the moment when I realized that I was funny and I could do comedy too. I'd always been told that I was funny, but I...

always felt like, no, I'm too smart or I'm too serious or I'm too dry or I'm too dark. I have a, my sense of humor people don't get cause it's so dark. You and I have a very similar sense of humor. We're both very dry and a little on the dark side, but in a good way. And, uh, and we would talk about the scripts and you would, we would both say to each other, yeah, we're just going to improv. Yeah.

We were just going to improv. And we did. Remember the one scene that was in your trailer with the candles and the whole thing? Yes. Like we did improv that entire thing. We did improv the entire thing. It was amazing. And the eating. I look back on the reboot. It's such a great experience. I agree. Because ultimately, I feel like we...

stepped back into a situation that was so hard and traumatic when we were younger. And we stepped in, in a place now where it's like, I'm done with all that shit. I'm going to fucking show up here no matter what's going on. And I'm going to enjoy it. And we enjoyed each other's company and time. And we had great fucking dinners and like, it was, I loved that experience. There were, there were parts of it that fucking sucked. Of course. Yeah. So,

But that's, that's going to happen. That's going to fucking happen all the time. You're going to get in the car and there's going to be fucking traffic and you're going to go, that drive sucked. So what? It's like, you know, it's, I always, I always tell people like one of the mantras, one of the things that I really try and follow on a daily basis is, um, I feel like the only thing in life that I have control over, I've said this before, is who I choose to be while living life.

Because life fucking does this. It has its ups and its downs and it has the crazy shit, the neurological shit that I went through, the fucking divorce stuff, like all the, you know, you go through the lows and you go, oh my God, this is fucking terrible. And then you go through these highs where everything's great. And it's like, okay, who do I want to fucking be during all of this? Do I want to be somebody that is unpredictable emotionally? Because if things are going great, I'm super nice. And then if things are going shitty, I'm a fucking...

asshole when you meet me or see me out somewhere? Do I want to be that guy? Or do I want to be the guy that no matter what, fucking stops and takes time to connect with people genuinely? And you, it's the, I feel the same way about you. You're very good at doing that. Like you, no matter what is going on around you, take the time to

take in your surroundings and fucking be the person I've said it, that Sean and I were just talking about it. To me, you live consciously like all the time, which is that's, but it's a choice. It's not, people get confused. They think like, Oh, that person is just better than me. It's like, no, that's not, it's a fucking conscious. It's a choice that I make in every single situation, every conversation that comes up,

My first instinct is you want to fucking be venomous and you want to stand up for yourself and you want to defend yourself and you want to do things. But then I stop and I take a breath and I go, okay, how do I really want to be in this moment? You know, if somebody's saying shitty things to me in comments or in fucking whatever, do I want to fall in line with that and become a part of that fucking stupid conversation? Or do I want to stop and go, okay,

Let's approach this as fucking respectful adults and let's have a real conversation. And as soon as, as soon as I do,

Fuck, I feel so much better. Well, because then you can be proud of yourself, right? Totally. You can then walk away from whatever that conversation is or whatever encounter that is and be proud that you handled it a certain way. And with class and with compassion and with integrity, I had a...

I think it was mid fourth season of the original 90210. I started going to therapy pretty heavily because I was trying to figure out that marriage and all of that. And she, and I went for a pretty long time afterwards and she taught me something that has always stayed with me. And that was that she said, before you react, count to three. And if you're still angry after you count to three, count to 10. Hmm.

Then you can answer. Then you can respond. There's nothing wrong with taking a pause. You don't have to be so reactionary, so quick. And I think I was so quick all the time in my earlier life because I felt...

I felt... Attacked. I felt attacked, but I also felt as a woman, I wasn't being heard. I wasn't instantly respected like the men were. I wasn't paid as much as Jason was or whoever was. And...

And nobody considered in that first season when I was sort of an angel coming to work, nobody considered me to be the quarterback. There was... And it was ingrained in my head from being a child and having such amazing parents that I was equal to my brother and that it didn't matter what your gender was. Everybody should respect each other equally. And so when I felt...

that I wasn't getting that, my reaction was a very bad reaction, right? Because my reaction then took away any reason to really respect me because it was so incredibly reactionary. And I would get angry and upset that if I said, I don't like how Brenda is being written, that it was, well, it's not up to you. And you don't have a voice here. And when some executives and people say,

helped those people create the I Hate Brenda newsletter in order to drum up that bad publicity. And I was saying, this is hurtful to me personally. Like I'm young and these people are attacking me and I need help with this. It was sort of, well, that publicity is great for the show. And then it's funny to hear that in the meeting, it was, well, she's getting really bad publicity now. This isn't a good look for us. But going back to my original point,

I wish that I had learned the whole three, 10 count at a much younger age. Right. Because I know how much it benefits me. So even now, if somebody is complaining about something in life and maybe I have gotten not great news about cancer, I still stop.

and count to myself and say, it doesn't matter what you're going through. What matters, they're needing a share. They're needing somebody to listen to them and give them comfort. And you need to do that. You need to give them some comfort and love. And whenever now, whenever someone says, it's so stupid that I would complain to you, you of all people. And I'm like, no, I'm actually the right person to complain to now. Because

I don't think everything's relative. My health situation, you went through a massive health situation. That does not mean that we're- It's not a competition. It's not a competition. And we're not excluded from being a part of your life and hearing what your issues are and trying to help you as well. Right. Yeah. Yeah.

I hate Brendan newsletter. I totally forgot about that. Yeah. That was brutal. I, I honestly believe like you weren't meant to be on the show for more than the four seasons that you were like, there's no, you were meant to move, move out into the world and do some other stuff. And like, that was that, that was a strange little, little group. It was an amazing group.

but it's a strange one. I think the universe, man, the universe has these like weird fucking things happen and it doesn't make any sense, but you look back on them and you go, man, thank God. Like, thank God you weren't,

you weren't stuck there for another eight years or six years. That would have, you would have, I know you, you like, you would have felt so fucking caged by that experience. A hundred percent. You're not someone in my experience to be like put in a box. And you know, this is, this is just what your life is now. You like, you just love to fucking roam and do and try things and experience things and do all that.

And 90210 after a while, it really didn't offer that. I mean, we were at the point when we were at like the double up episodes and doing all that shit. It was so like, it was brutal. It was a grind Monday through Friday. You'd get there at seven 30 in the morning and you'd work till eight 30 at night.

And you'd go to, you know, and it was just like Groundhog's Day every single day. You'd show up and... I think for me, Charmed was the only show that I probably could have been on forever. Because, yeah, there was just something about it. There was my character, my crew, everything.

my directors, my writers. That was also your show. And I was directing. It just, I was doing stunts. It felt like I was getting to Rome and not be in a box while also still being in a box. But it was a box that I was super happy with. Versus, I agree with you. I think 90210, everything does happen for a reason. And if I had stayed on,

I probably would have gotten fired a year or two years or three years later because I would have been so incredibly unhappy. You would have fucking hated it. You would have hated it there. When I also hated the direction Brenda went. You would have been like, these stories are fucking ridiculous. Yeah, what is happening with my character? Why am I saying this?

You would have just been like up in arms every day on set because I was, and you know me, like I am as damn near as agreeable as they come. I was rewriting scenes. I was like, this is fucking terror. This is garbage. Rip this page up. Fucking Tori and I were sitting in red and I'm not a writer. Tori. I, I don't think Tori's a writer. Like, you know,

But the fact that we were doing that is like, okay, that's, yeah, it was, that show got tough, tough to fucking write for after a while because it was like, okay, we graduated high school. Okay, now we're in college. Okay, now we graduated college. Now we're working at the fucking store. It felt like everybody stayed the same. It was like the same sort of issues, the same drama. It kind of,

I mean, listen, I didn't really watch it when I was on it, so I didn't watch it when I was off of it. Neither did I. But from everything that people conveyed to me afterwards, it just got... Some of the storylines were...

Oh, it just dug itself deeper and deeper into the same... It didn't grow at the time. It was like our environment changed, but our characters didn't really change. We were just in a new... We were on new sets, wearing new clothes and doing new stuff, and it was a new year. That was it. Otherwise, it was just the same...

stuff we were shooting season eight was the same as scenes we were shooting season two like it was they were it was damn near a copy and paste at that point it would have it would have driven you fucking crazy all right well i guess i'll thank everybody the next time i see them totally hey i want to thank you all for that phone call i really want to thank you guys for firing me you guys really have my back and not wanting me to be there i just want you to know by the way

That would be, I would, there's some people I would love to see their reaction to that. I might actually do it. You should. Because it's kind of funny to so many years later go up to people and say thank you. To call everyone almost like, you know, AA, like make amends. Like you call everyone and go, listen, I just wanted to thank you for that phone call you guys had that day. Because you saved me. Because my life changed for the better at that point. Right. And I didn't have to. I found a whole new me because of that experience.

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I'm looking at their notes because they do have really good notes. Did you feel like a little brother to me? No, you felt like... I didn't, right? No, no. We always seemed like fucking bros. Like we were... It was aside from the fact that we were different ages, that never ever fucking played a part in anything. We hung out and to me, like you were... We were absolute fucking equals. I got to say, like that was one of the experiences that I had with...

pretty much all the cast was like, I was, they never treated me as like the younger one or like, you know, Jay would call me young Bri and stuff like that. Like there was always reference to that, but I was never treated by anyone like,

in any sort of different way. And you and I especially never had that relationship. I think, like, I remember showing up on set and you being there and feeling so relieved because it was like, oh, I fucking know somebody here. Great. And we'd worked on all sorts of things around each other. We had never worked together on anything. So to all of a sudden be on set, it was like, holy shit, like, fuck shit.

fuck Shannon's here. This is, this is great. I still was like, Oh, it's a pilot. Like we'll do this pilot and then we'll, you know, but Hey, we got to do a pilot together. That's great. You know, next year when we're doing, you know, the, the fucking prices, right? Reboot. What was it like for you? Uh, when you came back for like season five and I wasn't there, was there anything weird on the set? Not to be all self-consumed, but yeah,

I'm just curious if it felt weird or if did, cause did Tiffany come on right after me? She came on right after you. So in a way, so in a way it was almost like I lost my friend, but now my girlfriend's on the show.

It was, it was definitely weird though. Like it was for me, what was weird was like being in the hallways where you usually were and not seeing you, not seeing you in the makeup trailer, not like being on set. Cause we talked about this before. We didn't have much stuff together on set. We had a couple fun things for us here and there. Like we would dance at, you know, the pool party or whatever. We'd be off on the side doing that kind of stuff.

stuff honestly that I think you and I created more than was written. Like it was, we, we just, it was like, Oh, there's a group of people. Oh, okay. I'm going to end up with Chan. Cause I'd rather be over there. We're going to be here all day for the fucking party scene. Um, but I remember it was the daily life, like getting a set because we had a,

like a routine after four fucking years, you have a routine. It's like you, you get there, you know, where everybody is, you know, everybody hangs out, you know, where like the spots are and the things. And so to get there and all of a sudden it was like, I would get to those places and you weren't there. It was fucking strange. Like it was, it, it wasn't, it wasn't so much. I didn't feel so much of the professional loss as I did the personal loss because it was just, you were a part of that.

experience for me. You were a part of life there. So then when you weren't there, it was strange. It was like, um, losing a pet. You know, it's like when you watch the other pets kind of come around, it's like, where now, what do we fucking do?

This is the one that we followed and hung out with. You just compared me to a pet. I didn't compare you to a pet, but I compared the loss of you for people that haven't lost a colleague at work. A lot of people have lost pets. I'm going to cut you off there, Shane. But you know what was really cool was that when we did the reboot,

And then we consciously decided that we wanted to actually work more together because we hadn't. We did. We pitched that to the writers. And they let us. So a lot of our stuff was just you and me, which was awesome. And again, then we would do the improv and we would just go on tangents and play and have fun and be creative. And our sense of humors would compliment each other. And our wardrobe was super cool. Yeah, absolutely.

I'll never forget the one scene we had that ended with you eating watermelon. Because they kept all of that in. I was shocked. Like it was the final episode. It was the party at my house as we're picked up and you were eating watermelon. You offered me some. And it was, they kept like an extra two and a half minutes of

Us just fucking riffing and ad-libbing. That was pretty cool of them to keep. It was great. Yeah. It was fun. Because you would think that they would have cut that, and they didn't. And I love that you were... That through all of my on-camera eating scenes, that it's finally in the last episode that you start partaking in the eating. I love that you told me early on that you were like, so...

one of my choices is I'm going to eat in every scene. I was like, fuck dope. The scene when you guys, when we were all up on stage singing with Ray and you were just like eating the whole time. It was fun. It was so great. And everybody else was looking at me like bananas, sandwiches, apples, whatever the fuck you could consume. Oh my God.

Somehow I picked Skittles one day when we were all sitting around in the director's chairs for that scene. And I was so sick from the candy. And I didn't think that it would take that many takes, but it did. And I just had, oh, God, that was the first time that I went...

maybe this eating thing is not totally, I think I'm going to rethink this character episode eight, but I was happy with it again. That was, um, that was a really fun experience for me. I felt, I felt very free and like liberated from myself. Remember when we went and ate and at that Mexican restaurant and it was like a fucking 20 minute walk to get there. And like, I remember just walking through the city and like,

It was so cool that way because we don't have time to do stuff like that. We don't have lives that support that type of behavior. But when you're in Vancouver... You're very good with getting out, seeing a place...

And I go into self-conscious mode and I hide. So I was hiding out in my hotel suite and you were the one that always said, called me and went,

I'll be outside your hotel in five minutes. Like we're going for a walk. We're going to go here. We're going to go do this. And you got me out and got me seeing things. And yeah. And I've been there for like three weeks though, before you got there or two and a half weeks before you got there. So I like, for me, it was when you got there, I wanted you. Cause I felt, I mean, I felt a bit,

not responsible for you being there, but I really felt like you're here. I wanted to take care of you and make sure that you felt good and that you had a good experience in the city and that it was the best it could be. Cause fuck like I,

talk to you into a lot of this shit like I was in your ear constantly of like come on let's do this and it'll be fucking great and you know you'll you'll love doing it and also coming in two and a half weeks later is hard because everybody's established themselves yeah you know they've all rented apartments right you know next door to each other so there's always there's there's already a click going on and it doesn't matter that you're however much older you still get

When it's time to get on that plane and then when it's time to walk on that set and see everybody again, it's like massive butterflies in your stomach. But you didn't once let me feel like I was out there by myself. You were very much...

Shan, we're going here. We're going there. We're doing this. I never ate lunch by myself. And how crazy is it that the apartment that I had was not near anybody else's. It was, I was in my own spot and I was literally like two blocks away from you. Right. So it was like, you got there and just fight that naturally happened. Like it wasn't, nobody planned for that. Cause I don't know that city at all.

People were like, where do you want to stay? I was like, I have no fucking where. I text Jason. I was like, where should I stay? I don't, you know, what's a good area? You picked a good spot. Your area was really good. That was Cole Harbor. Yeah, it's a really good neighborhood. It was great. The seawall and stuff there, because I would every morning get down to the seawall, the path around on my electric skateboard, and I'd just fucking go out. So then when you got there, it was all about like,

Come with me on all this stuff. We're going to walk the seawall. We'll go to the restaurants. We'll go to the coffee shops. We'll do the things. And it was fucking great. I had so much fun doing that with you. I'm so glad that you were out there. Me too. Thank you, by the way. Because it would have sucked if you weren't. Thank you for being in my ear and making me get past myself and doing it because I...

It was an awesome, awesome experience. I'm so happy I did it. Like really looking back, I'm like, that was, that was just an awesome experience and did so much for me. And it's exactly what I needed because I'd just been diagnosed with stage four, like February, I guess, or something. Yeah. February towards the end of February. Um, but,

So to have that distraction, to have something going on and to at least for six episodes, think that you're going to have a job and that cancer isn't going to impact your career and nobody's going to want to hire you. It was really nice. And then to be able to hang out with you and have fun and play characters that we got to essentially develop and

It was just overall really awesome experience. One that I loved. Yeah, I agree. So thank you. Thank you. I think I've asked you everything that I would want to ask you. And also, aren't we supposed to do yours right now? Yeah. So for people that don't know, yeah, we're doing two episodes today. It's fun. So I'm on your podcast and then you get to come over to my world. Which is...

Awesome. Cause I love your guys' podcasts and I haven't seen Randy in forever. He's so excited to talk to you. I am so excited too. And then obviously, you know that I love Sharna. So I'm, I feel like I've now been doing this podcast thing for a while. I haven't really, but it feels like it. So to be on the other end of

of being on your guys podcast it's gonna be really cool you know what's funny i was thinking about um when i remember when i talked to you before i had the uh like the documentary idea and you were like i don't want to fucking talk about 90210 i don't want to rehash any of that shit yeah cut to now we're on each other's podcasts and literally we've been talking about 90210 i know

I know. I do remember that. You know what though? It's fucking cathartic, man. It's like, I strongly suggest to people that went through any sort of traumatic experience earlier on and are trying to avoid that and not dredge that up and feel like, Oh, maybe if I just bury it and I forget that it was there, it'll be better for me.

fucking get out and talk about it. We're totally different people than when we did the show. It was like going through divorces, which both of us have gone through. It's the same thing. You can go through a divorce and either feel anger or resentment or whatever. In my case, it's a bunch of other emotions. And you can sweep that under the rug or you can deal with it.

And by talking about it, you learn so much about yourself in the process. And you also learn so much about what other people that are in your life thought of you and of that during that time. And so they get to voice what they saw, what their concerns were. You get to deal with that. It is very cathartic. It is just not letting life break you.

Like it's, you know, when shit comes up, just fucking like, take it, take it on head on and fucking stand tough and stand proud and stand tall and you'll be fine. You'll be okay. Like shit fucking hurts and shit sucks, but you'll be okay. Just stick with it. Right. See it through. Cause there's all, there's always something at the other end of it. Always. There's no way to avoid that. It's really about coming to the resolution. Yeah.

Because in order to get past it, you have to resolve it. And so if you resolve it and you're able to resolve it with peace within yourself and maybe with others, sometimes there is no peace with other people, but you can still find the peace within yourself and give yourself the grace and move on. It's so much healthier and you feel way lighter. Yeah.

Way lighter. Yeah. So I'm going to call everybody now and be like, hey, thank you so much for getting me fired. Right. Hey, so I really wanted to talk to you about that conversation that was had 30 years ago. Can you tell me what that was like for you? I haven't properly thanked you for that. Yeah. Like I haven't thanked you and I haven't really heard how traumatic that must have been for you. So if you can share that with me. Let's just talk to you for a minute. Okay.

I want to know what you felt during that day. Oh my God. It's a good one. All right, Shan, come on over. I'll see you over on, uh, over on oldish. Okay. I'll see you over there. I love you. This is wild. I love you too. Bye. Bye. Bye.

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