The LaBrant Family on Having Kids Young, Family Vlogging & Dealing with Hate
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- Family vlogging, it's kinda got like a bad term. - For sure, yeah. - But I am convinced that there's so much more good that can and will come from it. - That was a little embarrassing that he was 19. Like I just so badly wanted him to turn 20 already. - For me, I'm just like, I'm dating a hot older lady. - You couldn't even legally drink when you were married. - Nope. - No.

I gave it attention in the beginning, like the negative things. Once I got over that hump, realizing like they don't know me, I kind of just keep it out of my head. I just don't want to hear it. People started tagging you guys like crazy. Didn't know if you saw that. We didn't see it. And now I'm mad. Our podcast.

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It's just birds chirping in the silence. And it's so peaceful out here. It is. You guys, I am so stoked. We've got Cole and Savannah LeBrant here with us today. Hello. We actually wrote an intro for you guys, which is like very rare. Oh, wow. We're very unplanned people, but here, I wrote this. We're trying to step up our game. We're trying to step up our game. Unplanned intro.

Exactly. But we didn't plan this bit. I want to hear this. So Cole and Savannah LeBrant are two of the most successful family creators with 13.1 million YouTube subscribers, 52.3 million on TikTok and 12.1 on Instagram. They helped pioneer the family creator space through their challenges, viral trends, pranks, vlogs, and Q&A videos. They now reside in Nashville, Tennessee with their four children. Wow.

Welcome to the Unplugged podcast. Thank you so much. I had no idea about those numbers, so you could be making that up. Dude. We research. I did some research for this one. Yeah, I'm very stoked. We combined your TikTok following and your Instagram following. That's crazy, you guys. Like 52.3 or whatever it was combined on TikTok. That's like...

That's insane. That's to be fair. A lot of that was musically. Really? That was musically. Yeah. Yeah. Because music was before TikTok. Really? Yeah. So you guys built up followings on musically before like YouTube or any of that. Yeah. Savannah was like one of the original kind of creators on what was TikTok.

Musically, it was just her and Ev making silly cute videos. Okay. And a lot of Viners went from Vine to Musically. Really? Wait, did Vine evolve to Musically or was Musically like a whole different app from Vine? It was a different app, but it was a short form app. So, you know, Vine was six seconds and I thought Musically was like kind of the next app. Like, oh, Vine's dying and Musically's happening and it's short form and that kind of thing. That is crazy. So Savannah, that's where you got your start was Musically.

That was it. That is insane. Yep. And did you make videos with your daughter Everly? Is that kind of how you started off? Okay. Just for fun. We were just having fun on Musical.ly and it just happened. Wow. And then how old were you when you were doing that? I was.

22. wow okay right is that the math yeah i think that's right math 22. and cole you started on vine right yeah okay that's funny because i'm 26 now which just kind of brought back like a 10-year anniversary because i was 16 whenever vine started whoa so i was like man do you want making videos now for 10 years that's you know kind of feels like you know a good portion of my life yeah so yeah i started on vine

Not too far from here. Southern Alabama, now that we're in Tennessee. Ten years ago. That's crazy. How are you guys liking Tennessee? We love it. Oh, we love it. We love it. Yeah, it's great. Actually, it's terrible. Don't move here. Everybody stop moving here. The traffic's building up. Everyone moving from California to Tennessee, they're like, oh, more Californians coming to the traffic. That's how Arizona is, too. People have on their bumper stickers. They're like...

what do they say like Californians are not welcome here I've seen bumper stickers actually I think you DM'd me when I posted this in my story a couple months ago it was a don't California my Arizona yeah it's happening yeah and now you guys are here in Nashville that's crazy the southern hospitality is real you guys like people are so nice here actually yeah we were at brunch this was actually in Memphis which I feel like

even more feels more southern than is it more southern what's my geography like yeah Memphis almost feels more southern than Nashville Memphis is like right there in the like the cusp of like several states so this is probably got like a lot going on okay yeah we were at brunch and Griffin we had Griffin with us and these two sweet older ladies were right behind us and they were like like the food and they came over and talked to us for like 10 minutes and we're like this doesn't have

- It's happening in Arizona. - Yes, everyone's very friendly, like overly friendly. It's pretty cool. - You're not used to, yeah, we, I, and, 'cause I don't wanna make like California sound bad, or Californian sound bad, 'cause we had a great community. - Totally. - We had so many loving people around us. - Yeah. - But I do feel like, for the most part, a lot of people out in California are on their hustle. They're on their grind. They're trying to make something happen. - Well, it's just faster paced. - Whatever it is. - So everyone's just going to the next thing. - You're going, and I feel like a lot of people are nice to you for a motive, maybe.

And you almost forget that people are nice here for no reason. And that people can be nice for no reason. It's like, oh. It's almost like, wait, what do they want from me? Or like, what? You know? But it's like, everyone's just nice just because. Or like, they'll stop and talk to you for an hour just because they got nowhere to be. You know? It's awesome. And it's like, yeah. It's pretty cool.

I love that. I love that too because I love meeting strangers. I just love to know people's story. Our Uber on the way here, he was just like chatting away. The whole life story of every Uber and every person on a flight. Such a nice guy. He played semi-pro football and used to live in Arkansas and lived in Kansas City for a little bit. My brother lived in Kansas City. Go Chiefs. So like, I don't know. It's just cool. I just love meeting random people and I love that about the South. Everyone has a lot more in common than like...

You might think when you really get to know everyone's story. Yeah. You guys, this is, this is actually funny that I'm saying this right now. You guys are probably part of the reason why we start, why we originally started a YouTube channel four years ago. And, and,

How cute. Yeah, when Abby and I started dating, gosh, we're coming up on seven years. I think it was not too long when Abby found your videos on YouTube of you guys like dating. You guys started dating at like the same time. So I was like super interested. You guys were dating long distance. We were dating long distance. And we're just like, whoa, this is like a couple in the same stage of life that we're in. Wow. Well, I feel like you didn't watch the videos at first. No, no, you, I don't know if I ever, honestly, I don't know if I ever watched the videos, but you watched them. And I was like, whoa. I definitely should.

- You should show them your wedding video though. And then I think that's when Matt was like, wait, people are making YouTube videos, like couples? - And it's their job? Like this sounds so fun 'cause like I grew up making videos all the time for every school project. - Yeah. - Every single presentation, I would like convince my teachers to let me do a video instead 'cause I just love making videos. I thought it was so much fun. And so I was like, Abby, we gotta try this. And so it like,

Part of the reason that we started YouTube is because we knew who you guys were. We were like, this is so cool. We started like three years later though. That's so awesome. We feel honored. That's awesome. But like, I can't believe you guys, you guys have an age gap, right? Like, Cole, when you guys started dating, you were dating an older woman or you're still with an older woman. What's that age gap?

So she's three and a half years older than me. So like right now we're in that technically four year age gap where she recently turned 30. I'm 26. Whoa. So yeah, so I'll be 27. I know. I don't like this age gap right here where,

where it's like, I want him to be 27 already. - Yeah, so she was in 20, I'm 26. So yeah, whenever we met, I was 19 and she was 23. - That's crazy. - We're the three year olds. - That's really not that many, that's not that many. - Well, I know, but especially like when you're younger, 'cause 19 and 23, you see the guys over, right? - When I was 23 with a kid, it was like a little embarrassing being like, well, how old's your boyfriend? I'd be like, 19. - 19 and a half. - Oh, he's 20. He turns 20 in like a week.

- I just wanted him to turn 20 so bad. - That is so funny. And when you guys got married, what was the, like how old were you then? - I mean, it was a year later, so I was 20 and she was 24. - So you couldn't even legally drink when you were married? - No. - No. - That's funny 'cause we got married at a winery.

So we actually, we wanted to have a dry wedding for a number of reasons. Yeah. But because we got married at a winery, they like, you can only get married here if we can serve wine. Yeah. But yeah, I couldn't even drink it. They put Sprite in our glasses. I thought that for sure they'd give us wine like this. No,

No, we like cheers and I was like, that was definitely Sprite. Yeah, it was. It was a good wine. I think maybe it was. It was the best wine I've ever had, honestly. Give us more of that. Yeah. And I was like, I was kind of like, I just turned 21. So I was like, dang it. I was hoping I could get some champagne on my wedding day. But like when you guys started dating. Yeah. Savannah, you had Everly. How old was Everly at the time when you guys were dating? She was three. Wow. And Cole, like.

You're 19. You just finished high school. What was it about Savannah where you're like, you know what? I want to date this girl who's four years older than me, already has a kid. That's unique for a lot of young guys. You had to grow up and mature fast. Yeah. What was it, honey? What was it? I knew I wanted to get married young. So it wasn't like I was, you know, and I'm not saying that there's like a right or wrong answer to this because I've talked to people who've gotten married at 40.

and want to start a family then, and like myself, got married at 20. So I don't think that I'm telling you my answer is the right way, but I know that it worked out for me in the sense of I wanted to get married young, I wanted to have a family, I wasn't looking to be single in my 20s and party and travel and live it up. I was ready to get married and do that with my person. So that's kind of like the marriage part of it. And as far as having a kid so young, my younger sister's only three years older than Everly.

So, like, Everly's 10. My younger sister's 13. So, like, at the time, at 19, I think that would have made my sister 6. Yeah. So, Lily, shout out to you. And, like, I have a younger brother, Tate, who's also only 16 right now. So, then 6 years old. So, like, I come from a big family. Lots of kids running around all the time. So, it wasn't like I wasn't, like, used to, like, a little kid being around. Or, like, it wasn't like, man, what's this? This is weird. I mean, I had a little sister who was, you know, burping and farting on me all the time anyway. So, it's like, you know.

It wasn't anything different. And Everly was such a cool, fun kid. My family's loud and very outgoing. So maybe it would have been different if she was like...

really shy and it was like hard for me to get to know her but like I hit it off with Everly just as easily as Savannah hey I'm Everly wanna come play with me and my friend oh my god and every rose that you're just playing it's like the simplicity of just like you know hanging out with a beautiful lady and playing with a really fun kid it's not like it's

baggage that some people I'm sure would like to think in that situation. It was a bonus, you know? And did you know the whole time that Savannah already had a kid or was it like, was there a moment where you're like, Oh, by the way, like I have a daughter. Like when, how did that come about? So we met in person at the Grove in LA. So if you live in LA, I'm sure you're familiar with the Grove. It's like a really popular outdoor mall. Um,

And at the Grove, there's like this outdoor playing area in the grass. And I'll keep this a lot shorter. But the long story of how we met was I sent Savannah a DM on Musical.ly about three months before we met. Because I was transitioning from Vine to Musical.ly. And I was trying to reach out to family-friendly creators. Because I had always made clean content. So I tried to find creators on the platform who were also making clean content. And be like, hey, would you like to...

On Vine, there's a thing called Revine for Revine where I would reshare someone's post if they did mine. And the original creators on Musical.ly did a very similar thing where they would share your post in exchange for another post. It was a weird platform. You posted like five times a day. Yeah, but very quick, no edits. Just like, hey, film this, upload it. Film this, upload it. It was like the more you upload, I'm getting way too into depth here. I reached out to her to reshare each other's stuff just because that's just what you do. I sent her a DM saying, hey, do you want to do that?

Because I didn't know anything about music. I just transition over I had no idea how to check and I'm not just saying this I had no idea how to check my DMS back really she ended up seeing it and

And I gave him my number. Reached out to me. But I never saw it. But because I sent her a message, she didn't know how I was from Vine. Happened to look at my musical.lys. I thought he was the funniest person I've ever seen in my whole life. Me and my sister. You're kidding. It wasn't even like, oh, he's so cute. It was just me and my sister sat there watching his videos like dying laughing because we thought he was so funny. So I was like, heck yes. The videos weren't funny. Do you not go back and watch those? They're very cringy. They were funny for back then, I guess.

Yes, not now. All that being said, I feel like this is like a God moment in our life. Yeah. There are moments in my life where I feel like this is definitely a God moment. I just knew that because I had sent that message, she had then become familiar with me, watched my videos. I didn't have Vine, so I had no idea about him. Yeah. So...

Three months later, we hadn't talked at all. Didn't even know that she sent me a message back. I'm at the Grove in LA. Just happened to be there. I live in Alabama, small town Alabama. Just happened to be at the Grove in LA. Took a summer trip with my buddy who's outside helping watch all the kids because he was my college roommate. We just decided to go to California the very first time. It's our last week in California. I look up what to do near me. The Grove pops up. Go to the Grove.

It's a big outdoor mall. It's a Saturday. And I never went to the Grove. So it's the whole thing of us meeting. Big outdoor mall. I happen to see here on the grass part. And I'm telling my buddy John Simp because we hadn't seen like any famous people or any social media people or anything. So I think that's the girl from Musical.ly. Like, oh, yeah, look, there's her kid playing in the grass.

But we thought, you know, I thought, I didn't know anything about her. I didn't know if she was married or what. I'm like, I'm not going to go talk to a single mom, 19 year old boy being like, hey, I watch your videos. So we just walked away. She happened to see us walking away, recognized me, sitting her sister on the way out saying, hey, if you happen to see them, have them come say hi. On the way out of Barnes & Noble, we were in Barnes & Noble for like 30 minutes, meet up with her sister. Her sister said, go say hi. So we did. And then we got married.

that night that was a short that was a short that was a short version i didn't even did i even what question was that i don't know that was a good story that was that was a good story how we met is my favorite story and i'm sure you know it's like you guys someone asked you how you meet your love yeah going in and like oh okay here we go yeah but like matt doesn't remember when he first met me so oh yeah i don't remember the first time we met but i remember like when we started like

flirting and stuff and liking each other and starting a date. Yeah. But I mean, was there ever, was there ever any awkward situations that came up because, because of the age gap? Like four years, I know when, like now as you're getting older, like four years isn't crazy, especially like if when you guys are like 40 and 44, that's not weird at all. But when you're 19 and 23, like I can see how that could be, you know, maybe people say weird things or you feel embarrassed. Like, was there ever anything funny that came out of it? I don't know.

- I don't know. - The only thing that comes to my mind is like two days after we met, we're still in California, so we hung out like every, that last week we hung out like every day. And like one of the nights you invited me out to that kind of bar thing that your friend was like, her friend was a drummer in like a small band at a bar. - Yeah. - And she invited me out and I'm 19 at the time, so I don't think I'd ever been in a bar, right? - Oh yeah. - And she's 23 and like for the record, like we will have some drinks together, like we're not like anti-alcohol. So like she's in there, I think you have like a drink and I'm like, oh my gosh, like.

I don't even know if I can get in. Like, I'm 19. I think I'd get in, but like, you know, I think your mom goes like to hand me a drink. It was a restaurant. It was a restaurant bar thing. But I think your mom goes to hand me a drink and I'm just like, I can't drink this. So that's probably like the only thing I can even think of that's kind of funny looking back on. Yeah. Yeah, that's funny. Yeah, I think I was just like,

Like I tried to pretend like I wasn't, but I was a little embarrassed that he was 19. Like I just so badly wanted him to turn 20 already. Not that that made a big difference, but just him still being, like I was 19 when I had Everly. So for me, I was like, I don't know. Yeah, the age gap. Yeah, probably more embarrassing for her for sure. For me, I'm just like, I'm dating a hot older lady. Like it's,

Oh my gosh, she's 23. Were your buddies like, you're dating a mom? Like, what? Oh, yeah. Yeah, yeah, for sure. People didn't believe me for a little bit because she's my first girlfriend. So I wasn't like the kind of guy like, it just didn't sound too believable that I went out to California and actually found this beautiful woman that I'm not dating. Much less a mom and, you know, the whole situation. So,

Yeah, it was kind of like disbelief, but also, you know, I did get some fist bumps for sure. That's so funny. Well, now I feel like in our culture, I mean, it sounds so stupid, but guys will be like, I love moms or like... That's actually, yeah. There's like t-shirts. Seven years later, I would have gotten a lot more...

- Totally, validation. - Respect. - I've seen teachers that are like, "I love hot moms." - That's actually really uncomfortable. - I'm sorry. - I would have. - But seven years ago it wasn't as cool, so. - Yeah. - Dang. - I thought it was cool. I didn't care. - Oh my gosh. And man, I'm like losing my train of thought. But yeah, and then right away when you guys got married, then you, yeah, immediately upon getting married, you're like your stepdad. You're in.

How did you guys navigate that? Like, also, how did you navigate? I don't want to get. Also, was it weird making like social media content before you were married? Because you're like, what if we break up? Like when you're married, it's like pretty like locked in. Yeah, yeah. Was that scary? Okay. No one's ever asked us that before. I was never scared, but I was like so in love with him. I like never even thought about. I mean, I still am so in love with you. What? You know, in that like goo goo gaga stage, I was so like.

We're never breaking up. I don't know. I never thought of it. Every relationship is different. Yeah. And like I just mentioned, what works for somebody doesn't work for others. Yeah. But like we were...

We just knew. I think I knew so fast too because I would have never like, like, yeah, they met in the beginning when we weren't dating yet, but I would have never like brought Everly into the situation unless I knew he was like forever for me. That was just big for me to introduce her to somebody, you know? And so that I feel like for me was like my for sure. So the social media stuff was just like.

Yeah, because we've only done it since we've been married. So I was like, I wondered if it was different. But like, we're the same way. Like, as soon as we started dating. Yeah. We, like, within the first month, we've talked about this before. We were like, we're going to get married. We were in high school. We're like, we're going to get married. Yeah.

we're like gonna go to college together and do everything yeah i was i was writing abby love songs like yeah we said we said i love you in the first month we facetimed like we were deep in that state oh yeah and it was long distance so i feel like that made us even more crazy for each other because it's just like oh i just want to be around yeah when you're apart i get it yeah yeah because then you're like you missed the long distance right i know we're like can

Can we go do long distance for like just a little bit? The FaceTime. It's like every couple weeks it's like Christmas morning. Yeah. Like the excitement about seeing each other. Well I feel like yours was like extra exciting because you had to fly. Yeah. Oh yeah. Because like we could just like drive over. Yeah we were far. Either way the long distance. The long distance is special.

is special they say what distance makes the heart grow fonder and it's very true because i didn't know what it felt like to miss somebody like yeah sure you miss but like it's like so different yeah so for people that do long distance for like significant periods of time like deployments i'm like i couldn't imagine oh my god that would be so hard i could imagine so so hard like we pretend like we really did long distance but like we didn't go more than like two and a half

No, exactly. There's such a spectrum. But there's a family we nannied for and...

her husband had been deployed twice. She had a baby while, like, their daughter while he was away one time. And, like, I cannot even imagine going through that. So I'm like, that's long distance. Yeah, that's hard. We could drive over to our parents' house. I think that to deal with the pain, they both just worked out a ton because, like, they both came, when he came back from being deployed, he was so jacked, dude. Like, he was so, so jacked. She's like, it's like

They were both very, very in shape. I feel like they just took out all their like, just all the frustration of being apart just in the gym. Just three of these at the gym instead. Yeah. But now you guys, you know, you've been, you got married. You now have four kids. Like that is, that is crazy. Four kids. How is that? Is that the right number? Do you think you're going to go for five? Like talk to me about that. We're over. You want to talk to me about that?

Savannah, yeah, Savannah controls the family unit here, so. I want one more. Isn't that funny? To be fair, though, I warned him when we first met that he said I have six siblings. This was our conversation. I have five siblings. I'm one of six. Sorry, he has five siblings. He's one of six. And I was like, well, I want a family of six. Well, not a family. I want six kids. I thought you said you wanted a family of six. No, I said I want six kids. He's like that.

That sounds so much fun. And he was like, oh, that's cool. Like he totally knew that about me. From meeting to dating to married, how long did that take? How long was that process? What process? Like, I mean, how much time did you guys get married? Meeting to then start dating and then. Oh, oh, oh. Meeting to. Like were you guys engaged a year? Were you engaged six months? I want to hear if Savannah can answer this because I have like the dates locked in. He knows everything.

Okay, meeting. When did we meet? To dating, I would say, what, a month? Yeah, we started like for real dating. Or maybe two weeks. Yeah. Something like that. And then we got engaged like five months after that. Whoa. No way. So we met end of June. Started dating middle July. Like two and a half weeks later. Engaged January. Whoa. And then married the following July.

So, yeah. Whoa. We met in a year later. A year we were married. In a year. Holy freak. It was really fast. Dang. So you guys were just like on the peak of like infatuation, right? I mean, it's not, it's not the kid then it's just like. It sounds ridiculous. I mean, like I don't advise this. Like I said, I'm not saying like, Hey, like, but like, and even like we're talking back with, you know, introducing people on social media. Like I've, you know, had,

Family members or people contact us being like, hey, I'm in love with my boyfriend, whatever it is. We want to start a couple's thing and then I've seen it not work out and then it's awkward. And I say, okay, now you break up. So I definitely strongly advise knowing that your person's the one before getting into something with them. Totally. Totally.

Well, it's hard if you're waiting until marriage, right? Because were you guys waiting until marriage? Yeah. We did too. If you wait until marriage, you gotta get married. The hardest thing, well, we were engaged for 13 months, bro. 13 months. And we were dating for two years before that. Yeah. So we're talking over three years, bro. Like, probably the hardest thing that we've ever done. People joke, like, if you're waiting until marriage, like, oh, if they got married so soon, they're probably waiting until marriage. They just get married. I mean, it plays into it. It does. But, I mean, if you know, you know. Yeah. And there's, like,

What's the weight? Yeah. You know, so. Yep. Obviously they're, you know, and if you have legitimate reasons to wait. Yeah. Then wait. And she told you from the beginning she wanted six kids. I knew. I'm like, okay, I'm starting to do the math in my head. I'm like, we already have, who's three? So we want five more. So if I get married and I start planning, I'm like, we need to get married by July. Yeah. If you want to think of a family. We gotta start now. Then we gotta go. That's so funny. I feel like it's all,

It's always the wife that wants more kids, but we have to go through pregnancy. Are you sure? It must be the hormones. She gets pretty sick. Yeah. I get really sick the first like 17 weeks and then I just want to have. The first 17 weeks and then I'm good. Really sick. But then I just like forget about it. I want to be healthy.

other baby you forget about it i like four this is kind of the first time i don't have baby fever like i still love babies so much whenever i see one but i'm not like right now if i see a baby like and i still have a baby so it's funny yeah but i feel like around now is when i usually get pregnant just that's how i've we spaced out the last three and so right now i'm like super good i don't want one right now so we're gonna wait a little bit yeah right yeah you're still young i like asking him what she said what she said

Oh my gosh. Was that a challenge too? Because like, okay, you guys obviously madly in love. Like we went through that too. Was there any points where you're like, this is like so, so hard. Let's just like elope. No. I think because our time frame was already so short. It was so fast. It was like, you know, we had the dates. We knew. And obviously taking, you know, planning out a wedding, it takes a little bit.

I wanted to ask, were you still infatuated when you got married? Because we definitely were infatuated for the first year of being together. Yeah.

But like, do you feel like you were still in the like, they can do no wrong stage by that point? Or like, definitely when we first got married, you know? Yeah. Because we, again, we had just met a year ago. Yeah. So like ours was definitely like honeymoon stage for probably the first couple years of marriage. Yeah. And then obviously you guys know. It's impressive. Transitions. I feel like we have this, oh.

dynamic though of like we figured out the kid thing first you know so I feel like a lot of couples like maybe this is my opinion but most yeah most couples I feel like their fights come once they have the kid and they're figuring out parenting together we had kind of figured that out while we were dating you know so we figured out like what works for us parenting wise I don't know if that makes sense but

That makes sense. You know, it was less fights in the beginning once we started having more kids. Like, we already had that figured out. I don't know. That's true because I feel like – I mean, that's just a statistic. Yeah. Like, marriages – like, the first year of having a kid is, like, the hardest on a marriage. Yeah. Honestly, it's been hard. Yeah, it's hard. It's freaking hard because it's just, like, such a change in everything. And you have –

You love your kid so, so much. Yeah. But they require a lot of attention. Yeah. And like that's less attention on your spouse because like they're just very needy and they... Or like sometimes Matt, when you come or like you come into a room and you see Griffin first, you're like, you like give all your love to Griffin. I'm just sitting there. I'm like...

And you're so in love with your kids, you know? You love them so much. And so it's, yeah, I mean, it's just an interesting. If it makes you feel any better, he goes to four people before he comes to me. Or sometimes she's first. It just depends on the situation, right? Yeah. What was your first fight about? Do you guys remember? What was our first fight about? Probably Everly.

something to do with Everly, like just parenting. Probably so. I would say like the hardest thing that when it comes to like the whole kid spectrum is like discipline. Yeah. Right? And we've talked about this before. Yeah. We're very, very fortunate that we see eye to eye on probably like 98% of things. Yeah. You know, whenever it comes like to the discipline piece because...

you're raised a certain way, you're raised a certain way, you were disciplined, certain things and some things work, some didn't. So you're like, okay, that's how I'm gonna raise my kid. But then you gotta be a team, right? So if he does something that you don't like or vice versa. So there's been things that I've done that Savannah's like, hey, let's maybe not do that again, right? Or vice versa. And that's where it can get tricky. So I think- And same for me. Yeah, so I think- Helped me with things too. We have to be a team.

team. We had, there's no way that I, you know, if I ever get on the boat of I'm raising my kids, so I want to raise them or vice versa, that is not going to work. Our marriage is going to fall apart. Our kids, therefore we're going to suffer. We got to figure out how we're going to be a team. What's going to work. And if I got to sacrifice things on my end that I think are going to work in order for us to be a team, it's worth it. You know? So I think that's,

been a piece that I feel like we're pretty good at now but it wasn't right away yeah you know it takes time and you guys just have not even one year old so it takes time we haven't disciplined him yet yeah he's not even doing anything bad he's not doing anything wrong yet yeah totally but that would be hard because he's very

into this. He's like, this is good. I'm like deep in thought right now too. I know, I like it. It was a good conversation. And we didn't figure out on our own either. We have so many friends in our life. Some of our best friends have seven kids and their oldest kid's 14. So they're a season of life ahead of us, have teenagers. So we'll go to them and be like, man,

I'm struggling. Savannah thinks this, you know, and obviously these are like, these are like private conversations. These are like, you know, things like heartfelt, like, you know, she has best friends. I'm like, talk to them about anything and everything. Like, you know, having a community of people around you that you can ask. So it wasn't like, it wasn't finding a marriage that you guys want for your future. Like, like,

for your mentors to look up to. It's really important. I feel like we're probably going way off topic. - Oh, you're good. - But that was really big for us is finding someone that we look up to, that we love their marriage and we love their kids and how they discipline and what they're doing and confiding in them because we can trust them whenever we need them. - And whenever we find people, also be like, "Hey, you guys have permission to, as you see things in our life, for how we're raising our kids, our marriage, call us out." We love you, we respect you. Obviously, all the people on the internet,

they don't know us and because we don't know them and love them as much as we would like our mentors and stuff we aren't going to take the praise and we aren't going to take the hate the same way that we would from somebody that we look up to or respect you know what I mean so that's something that we have been just so blessed by is I don't want to say always but

God's put a community of people in our life who have called us out when need to and encouraged us when we need it. Quick interruption. We want to read a review from one of our sweet listeners. This is from at Jenna C2331 on Instagram. So thank you, Jenna. Five stars. It says, y'all saved me. I had a rough first year of college and I would come home almost every weekend. Your podcast taught me my rides home and helped me know there's still so much good in this world. Being in my first relationship and feeling like he is the one and seeing a first relationship that lasts.

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other podcast platforms too wherever you're listening leave a review we'd really appreciate it or just five stars yeah super quick it means a lot and we appreciate you guys yeah thanks guys back to the episode something you kind of touched on cole is like talking about how you have like people in your personal life that like your community that kind of talks about like speaks into your parenting life and your family life yeah and i

I wonder what that's like comparing that versus like you have the whole internet, right? Yeah. Everyone, we get it too, like commenting about our parenting, how we're raising our kids. Yeah. Especially like having the family platform that you guys have being like the biggest that there pretty much are. Like what's that like balancing the online feedback versus like real life feedback? Yeah. If that makes any sense. I feel like I gave it attention in the beginning and I let it get to me, like the negative things. Yeah. And then once I realized that

How do I say this correctly? I feel like once I got over that hump of not caring and realizing they don't know me, I really care about what my family thinks about me, what my friends think about me, what...

people at church, like the bigger picture here, then I gave it zero attention. So I don't look at anything. No, I'm very just like, I kind of just keep it out of my head. And if anyone tries to like, like if like my mom or anybody will try to be like, so this is happening out there or whatever. I'm very like, I just don't want to hear it because I feel like that will never, I don't know. I just, I'm big at ignoring things. Savannah's done a good job at ignoring it.

I probably gave it a little bit more attention. I feel like as, and maybe it's different, but I feel like I had to protect myself, my family. I feel like you see things and it can be

be alarming and it can almost make you second guess yourself or whatever it is and maybe it's good you know maybe it's healthy but also that's where you go to people who know you who know your life who spend so much time with you who you hang out with and so that's why I say don't let the praise or the hate because obviously even if like

you know, you're posting a bunch of videos and you're getting all this, you're awesome. Yeah. Yeah. Like whenever you, I'm getting way off topic, but like don't let that praise make you think you're like awesome. Cause maybe you aren't as awesome, but also don't let the hate make you think you suck. Cause maybe you don't. And I, like I remember whenever we first started family vlogging, we just posted happy moments.

moments, seeing each other. They're really, and I don't want to make this sound bad. There wasn't there at the time. There wasn't really sad moments. We just started dating. We're so in love. We're going to Disneyland. It's just fun things. We're playing family games. It's fun things. And we got a lot of nice comments. And then the, I remember the first hate comments that we got was, oh, you guys think you're so perfect. You guys never post anything negative. You never post anything real. You guys only post the happy stuff. You're so fake yada yada. And I'm like, you guys probably don't even like each other. Yeah. And I remember thinking like, oh shoot, maybe we should post like some bad things.

Not to get attention, not to exploit, but it's like the show that we're real. So we kind of like waited and I forget what it was, but then like, you know, you start posting some real life things and then it's like, oh, how can you exploit in the bad situation? So it's just like, and so you realize that there's no winning

these people over. There's no justifying. They don't care about your answer really. So that's why you only care about the opinions of the ones who know you and love you. It's so hard to keep that balance because we've had the same thing. We used to make super, super positive content. People are like, oh, this is...

you know, there's no such thing as a perfect couple. We're like, we're not perfect at all. But like also not appropriate for us to share this stuff. We don't want to put out like, like just depressing content, you know, like if we, if we show all the, like the sad stuff and it's like, this isn't fun. Imagine we recorded a fight and posted that. Oh my gosh. But like, but we try to show both. We try to show the good and the bad. So people are like,

ah, like I can relate to that. Like that's, that's me. Cause we're just like, we're just people. Okay. Like the biggest creators on social media, they are still people. We're all so, we're all going to make mistakes. Exactly. Everybody, everybody in life does. So, um, what,

I mean, it's just crazy too, because you guys have gotten to a certain size on social media where I feel like there's news articles made about you guys. Like we've had a little bit of that, but like not nearly as much as you. That's never a good thing. How do you navigate that when news is, I don't know, making articles that you have like no control over? Fortunately, it doesn't happen much. Yeah. You know, obviously if you look up our names, your guys' names, you know, people who are on social media, there is going to be stuff out there, but it doesn't happen much. So I think that's...

One area of it is knowing like we weren't near as big as other people like I couldn't imagine being and I hate the word famous like you know like we never throw that word around like I couldn't imagine being like as famous as certain people who it's just constant, you know, like we don't have paparazzi following us around or what you know, it's we live extremely normal lives, so I think that's a big thing and also knowing that it's very seasonal so like whenever Good or bad you can have like a seasonal period of like a

A lot of encouragement and blessing. And then if a bad thing happens, it can be a very seasonal short period of hate and it's going to go away because the people who love hate and the people who love drama and all that stuff, they're like fireflies and they're going to go from one thing to the next. They're never going to stay focused on this because eventually they're

we're a very normal family and we're just gonna have very boring normal not dramatic moments and they just want to go to what the next dramatic moment is so it's like we learned that over the years that's like boom the labrant family oh here oh here oh here oh here oh two years later oh back to the brand family oh here here here so knowing like it's gonna go away and

That whatever it is, what happens inside of our house is always way more important than whatever anybody's saying. Yeah. And how do you maintain, like, I know for us, like, we've had to, like, constantly reevaluate our boundaries with social media. Like...

Even like after having Griffin, like how like we film at this time or we don't film at this time or and not that we definitely are still like trying to find that. But like, how do you maintain your private life like with such a public platform? I mean, there are so many things that we keep off the Internet. Yeah. You know, we choose to share information.

what we feel is very normal and fun and people can relate to and we have a good time. But I mean, we've slowed down a lot over the years on our family content. Yeah. I'll say that we post maybe once every week or once every two weeks. Like we try to post on Saturdays. We didn't post yesterday and it's like, we just didn't have anything. So we're not going to force anything. Yeah. You know? So that's kind of like where we're at now. Um, we were in a season of like,

I don't want to say grind because it didn't feel like a grind. We're having so much fun. It was just me, you and Everly. And it's like, Oh, we're going to go to Disneyland and film it. And it's so easy. And then water park and then play pie face. You know, it's like, it's just like, it's, it's so easy. So it was easy to pop out stuff. But as we, as our fame has gotten bigger and the, you know, Everly's gotten older and she's in dance and school and whatever it is. Um,

It's just kind of been an obvious answer like, okay, let's slow down. And then it's also kind of obvious what to post and what not to post. And sometimes you cross that line and you make a mistake and you get called out for it. And maybe rightfully so and you learn from it. Something I'm going to ask you is like, what is your why for creating content? And like, has it changed over time? Like from the beginning to like beyond? Ooh, you'd answer this one because you're the video guy. You started the videos.

Why do we make videos? Yeah. Yeah, I always like to go back to like the beginning, you know, because like that's when I started and like kind of as Matt and I were talking earlier, I think even off podcast was like,

I made videos as a little kid with my family's old camcorder. We'd be out camping and we'd have pot pans making sound effects. We just loved making videos. Obviously, looking back, they're so dumb. You had the old MacBook face filter things and you're making videos there. It was just fun to make. Then whenever you're 16 and this new app comes out, Vine, and everyone's on it making videos, kind of like every little kid now is making a TikTok video. That's how Vine was created.

10 years ago, so just started making videos. And I was working, you know, I was living in small town Alabama, 16 years old. I was working at an ice cream shop making minimum wage, which was $7.25 an hour. And I remember making these videos and we start getting a following, but you didn't know that you could make money from it or anything. You're just having fun. Like I would have made videos if it didn't give any money. So, you know, people say I was like all for the money, but we love it, you know?

And I remember our first brand deal came in and it was, it's me and two of my buddies. We had like a group, but like the brand deal came in for like a thousand bucks and we split it three ways, obviously. Even, you know, you gotta pay taxes and all that kind of stuff. But I remember just thinking like, man, 333 bucks. Dude.

It blew my mind. $7.25 an hour, how long? I could not believe it. And my parents couldn't believe it. Like, you know, I'm one of six kids, one parent income. Like, how many hours you would have worked at? Yeah, I'm doing the math. So I remember thinking, I'm not going to quit my ice cream shop job yet. But if that happens again, I am. And it happened again. It took like six months. But it happened again six months later. And I was like, I'm only making, this is what I'm doing. I'm having so much fun. And again, you know, I'm a young single guy, made so much stupid videos. I look back, I'm just like, oh.

But, so then obviously, you know, I kept doing it through college. My parents always said it was like, you know, your 15 minutes of fame. So like, don't like,

quit everything that you're doing and do this. Especially back then, I think nowadays there's enough evidence to prove this can be steady. But back 10 years ago there wasn't. - Well you guys pioneered, I wanna say the family space, the couple space too. When you guys started YouTube, there weren't big couples channels, were there? Were there any people out there that you were thinking, "Oh, they're doing this, we should do this too." - Jess and Gabe. Jess and Gabe were a couple.

I remember I think they got like engaged and married like six months before each of our engaged marriages. But obviously they didn't have a kid so there's more couple versus family. But I think we literally just started making videos because he was like let's have these to look back on for long distance. I had a YouTube channel that I was making stupid videos on. So a lot of it lived on just a cold. And I remember you just calling me and being like this video is doing really good. I pulled up my iPhone and it checked like parking lot. It was like an iPhone like

And I pulled out and the Chick-fil-A parking lot before she flew out and just said, "Hey guys." Am I still be on? I don't know. "Hey guys, this is my girlfriend." And I was just so happy. I was just so proud that I had a girlfriend. Check her out. - It's cute because we can look back at it now. - People like to have a girlfriend. So we just had, it was just fun. It was fun. I mean, I know whenever you first start dating and you're in like couples games, couples Q and A, couples challenges, it's fun. So I'd say it was fun. Everly loved it. Everly loves making videos.

Being a little kid she loved making videos I'll tell you off camera if I hear friends come over to the house They like ask if they can make YouTube videos and pose these little for your friends come over like hey Cole Can we make you two video? I'm like, that's not how it works. But yeah, I think said It's kids love making videos. We've loved making videos. It's been a lot of fun Obviously has come with hardships and negativity over the years But the root of it really is just we had a lot of fun doing it get a lot of family time out of it

- Got a ton of family time. I mean, Savannah being a single mom, had this not have worked out, she was in school to be a nurse and would have been a single mom away from her kid. And so like, the reality of it is like given our situation,

like i don't know who wouldn't have done it obviously we made a lot of mistakes over the years yeah like looking back to like like the root of it and the why yeah you know especially now knowing that well and i think we just hit that time too we're like our kids now want to see their videos from when they were little so it's cute like they have all these home videos basically you know it was like christmas morning from like two years ago they're like can i watch baby posy this morning yeah like it's cute that they now just have all these videos to look back

and then obviously over the years it's evolved yeah you know go back to like the wife just like how it started was like it was just fun yeah but then it evolved it's like man like this can financially be lucrative and now we can help people and now we can share things that we believe in and yeah you know things that you stand for and you know and we aren't going to go into depth about what we've been able to

do with our money but we've been able to do some incredible incredible things i saw a video you guys did where you were buying people's groceries at um a grocery store and there's like all these one of the people was a single mom which i thought was really cool because like now that i'm a parent i have so much respect for single parents like i cannot believe that they do that you were a single parent for a while like that's i have so much respect for you um but like doing doing that was just i was like wow that's really cool you guys were able to buy all these people's groceries at a at a grocery store yeah that was a

And there's like dozens of families over the years. And just like you guys were just at St. Jude, right? Yeah. There's dozens. I mean, even as we've released...

documentaries for things that we believe in. We've gotten in contact with families who are in very unfortunate circumstances. Sick kids, whatever it is, can't pay the bills. And there's so many families that I keep up with on a very weekly basis who can't buy groceries, who can't, because neither of the parents can work because they have a sick kid. They have to stay up all night long with the kid because the kid has seizures and isn't well and the other parents have to stay up all day so they swap off. And it is just...

I couldn't imagine that situation. So I go back to that a lot of like, I mean, we have so many families that we help and we'll do everything that we can to help that we aren't going to post. We've never posted. We're going to talk about, but we know. And if we let the hate at times get to us or even more so to me and like convince me, like to stop making videos because of lies. Then in turn, there are so many people who will suffer because,

truly because of that. So I'm like, what's the truth here? You know, where's the real and the good? Yeah. And that way trumps a lie. I am curious too, like being the pioneers almost of like the couple space and the family space, does it scare you at all like that you're on the forefront? Like, cause this is like such an unknown space. Like you don't know, we have no idea like what that'll look like 50 years from now, 100 years from now. Cause like Hollywood and movies, like we can look back at like,

I don't know, just like how everything's played out from the past, but what's that like being pioneers in the space? How do you navigate that? You know, because it's so new. I think it's interesting because I don't think that we look at it that way. No, yeah. You know, it sounds cool what you're saying. No, but you are. You're literally pioneers of the space. And I really appreciate it. But we just don't, I think we just, and I don't want to sound like

like fake overly humble like we really just live such normal lives yeah and we go to the park and we you know take our kids like a swimming pool and a chuck e cheese and yeah yeah you know and i mean we we're very fortunate that that we have a great marriage and we're trying our best to raise our kids and we're gonna make mistakes but like

We just want the best for our kids like every parent does. And obviously there's certain things about social media that are negative. I am convinced over the years and from amazing, amazing mentors in our life that there's so much more good that can and will come from it. So much more fruit. Even like child actors, there's so many things like child actors having such a high unsuccess rate. But that doesn't have to be the case. It doesn't have to be the case. I think...

having loving parents involved who truly want the best for their kids who are setting aside the proper finances. I think that could be a big one as kids get older and they realize the money that was stolen from them. Yeah. We have, we have, we are, and we always will be setting aside. Yeah.

so much for our kids. Well, I'm so curious, like how do you decide how much to set aside for your kids? How do you, do you look at cinema as a framework for like, ah, this is how much actors get paid a percentage of production. So then therefore our kids should get paid this. Like, how do you even navigate that? You know, as parents, we love our kids more than anything. Yeah. Yeah. All that I have is theirs. And I even tell Savannah that I get, even what's in, we,

We have each kid their own bank account as well, but whatever is in our bank account is a hundred and a million percent theirs. So like as we get older, anything that they need that I'm able to help with, obviously, you know, I'm not, I don't want to give my kids a certain amount of money while they're young and dumb and going to spend on dumb things. But as they get older, it's just kind of those private conversations that you have with us, with ourselves, our mentors, our financial advisors, people who've been in this space.

So, I mean, and we're still navigating that. Our oldest is 10 years old. So like, you know, we're still figuring it out.

and hopefully we make good enough decisions, but yeah. Yeah. That's like, that's super interesting. No, we, uh, I've been talking to our tax guy and like financial planner and like, there's just like, I don't know. There's, there's things that I definitely want to do to make sure that our kids don't make dumb decisions. Like I I've heard horror stories of kids like growing up and then they end up like blowing a ton of money because they're young and dumb. And then, uh,

I don't know. I guess like, I'm sure there's ways that you can make sure once they're a certain age and they can't access that. And that way they don't make a stupid decision when they're young. Yeah. Matt's big into finances. I remember like, I was actually in school. He was learning what like a Dave Ramsey this morning.

morning i was like ramsay lives here he does wait really i was literally i was looking at dave we gotta have dave on the pod next to him no way on accident we had no idea when we were when we were uh dating but now that you guys just said that i'm like that's that's funny no because i wanted to learn finances i was a theater kid i knew nothing about money i knew nothing about financial literacy and i just like read dave ramsay books i read rich dad poor dad we were about to get married because he's like we have no money

but I want to get married. I need to know how this works so that like we can be independent of our parents. We need to have him on the podcast so we can thank him that we were able to get married. We should have Dave Ramsey and his wife. What if his wife comes on? That'd be epic. That'd be epic. They live down the street somewhere. I want to bring something up because I think it's kind of funny. What? But it's also kind of awkward. Oh my, I know what you're going to say. I know what you're going to say. Say it. That's so funny. No, we've talked about it a couple times.

So, okay, you said you don't like listen to hate or like, do you actually just like not read any comment or anything? I don't look at, yes, nope.

Wow. Good for you. I mean, I'm kind of getting there, honestly, because for my mental health and also just like the fact that like now that I'm a mom, I can't even imagine being a mom before. You're like, I don't have time for this. Like I'm like, that too is like in the beginning, I feel like I would take a lot of my time being on my phone looking at that stuff. And I was like, what am I doing here? I'm literally sitting here scrolling through comments for an hour when I could have just been playing with my

kid yeah time so I think it took a lot of growing up for me to of like hey I'm gonna put my phone down I'm not gonna worry about what these people are saying because it's it's just not the truth and they don't know me anyways and

and my focus isn't just not gonna be there. So I've just kind of trained my brain to just seriously not care. And I know a lot of people won't believe me when I say that, but I just don't. And whenever you read enough stupid things, you just kind of get to a point of like... I remember several years ago. People would literally... The comments started getting to like... And I won't get into that, but it's like,

All she does is feed her kids popsicles. I was literally going to say that. Like it got to that. Because we did something really stupid. It was like four or five years ago. I remember we read a hate comment, again, several years ago, that was like, oh, it was during summer where our kids probably had a popsicle on about every video, right? I don't give a rip. Eat those popsicles all summer long. They were sugar free.

No, no, no, no, no, no, no. I'm getting into that. I don't think they were sugar free. Maybe they were. Honestly, I don't care, right? I really don't care. But I remember I read the hate comment. They were because that's why it made me so mad. Yeah, but I remember I read the hate comment that said, all I do is get the kids sugar, man. So I remember the next podcast, I remember saying, here's a popsicle for my kids. And we do give our kids sugar free popsicles. I remember thinking, I would never say that.

Yeah. That is not like something I care about. I tell them, hey, by the way, we make sure we never care for sugar-free popsicles. I'm literally starting to say things that I would never say. Like they're changing who's pop. That's what I realize as a,

like when I started doing things like that, I was like, it's overtaking my brain. Subliminal. Yeah. And it's out. I'm done with it. Yeah. I hope I get to that point. Cause like there are times like, look, when, when people say ridiculous stuff, like the popsicle thing, that's easy to shrug off for people are just like, wow, I like honestly hate Matt. He's Matt. He's so toxic or something like just crazy. Like, it's just like, you know what? Like you, you literally have no idea who I am. Like it doesn't hurt my feelings. It just makes me laugh. But when it's like this stuff that's like super, super specific and like really gets deep, then I feel like that's where I'm like, ah,

that really hurt, you know, where it's like real, like really act like it doesn't affect you. I don't know, but there's been times like when we've gotten hate where it's like definitely. Yeah. And I like you Cole, like I haven't wanted to make videos cause it's just like, man, I just feel like I've, this isn't fun anymore. Nobody enjoys it. So what's the purpose? Yeah. But that's not true. What I wanted to say though was there was actually a clip from this podcast. Like I said, I don't really read comments, but I especially don't read comments on like our podcast. YouTube shorts, dude. It was a YouTube short. It was a YouTube short. See, I don't even know. Like I,

I, cause it's like, like you said, who has the time? There's so many different things getting posted anyway. And it was like us talking about baby names in 2023. And it was me. It was a clip of me being like, baby names in 2023 have gotten so like out there. I was like, there's so many crazy names out there. And, um, I'm sure ours were all under those comments. That's exactly what happened there.

Everyone. And keep in mind, when I said this, I wasn't thinking about anyone in particular. Yeah. I didn't even, wasn't even thinking of influencers in particular. And I was just like some, and I think the quote was like, I was like, it's not the flex that people think it is. Yeah. And then people started tagging you guys like crazy. Well, like other people that we know personally, I was mortified because I was like, I never saw it. I wasn't thinking of it.

I wasn't thinking about anyone in particular. It was a general statement. Yeah. And I'm sure that's something that's happened like throughout the years because like the new names that start to become trendy. The first time they come out, like it's always going to sound weird, but like we're freaking Matt and Abby, like the most basic white names ever.

They're like, shut up. Hey, Cole and Savannah's close. But I just wanted to bring it up. Yeah. I wasn't talking about you guys. Didn't know if you saw that. I didn't. And now I'm mad. But now we're at it. Okay. Don't walk out on our podcast. Cole and Savannah are walking off the podcast. They're leaving. This is crazy. Good time with them. But it reminded me of something. Yeah, that's funny. I remember your video. You made a video about baby names we like but won't be using. Yeah. And then you guys were like, if you don't like the name...

that's okay. Like, you're welcome to not like it. And I like, appreciate that because I'm like, it's so funny because like, such a flex. Totally. That's a flex. Yeah. I'm making this decision and I feel like that's been a common thing throughout your career on social media is like, you're very bold and like, you share things. What you say. Yeah. Vulnerable in what you share. You're bold. But then also you're not like out,

out here conforming to everything that everyone says negative about. You believe in what you say and you don't shy away from it. And I commend you because that's a scary place to be in. So Cole, I'm so curious. I noticed last year you made a Cole LeBrant YouTube channel.

- Oh yeah. - And then recently you and Everly made a Cole and Ev YouTube channel. So talk to me about that. Are you guys like thinking about maybe stopping the LeBrant family channel and like transitioning to those? Or is that just like a fun side project? Like what is the vision behind those new channels? - So we started slowing content on our family channel

which we're happy about. We wanted it always to be real and raw. We never wanted to force. And just as we had so many kids, our kids have real life activities and stuff. So as life's just getting busy as we can, we'll make videos on our family channel. I'm not saying that we're going to stop cause we enjoy it. But so I had more free time. Right. But I love making videos. Um,

so started making a lot of fun videos on my channel um and i remember when we first started our libret family channel we did a lot of challenges um we did vlogs i'd say a lot of it was like challenge stuff um fun challenges and then we ended up transitioning to just vlogs which are fun but not as exciting and um you know everybody loves making videos she loves making videos she has her own little kid youtube channel she'll make videos on and then i would have my

colabrent channel that i was making videos on and hers were a lot more chill because we literally just say like you do whatever you want um she'll go like four months without making a video yeah um and then like when you want to make a video you just kind of grab the camera and make it um but then i was putting a lot of time and effort and creativity into mine and she would see how much fun i was having with my ideas and content and she's getting older so she's now seeing youtube in her eyes like she'll see like jordan matter and salish and she's like i want to do that that's fun like this is

awesome so we started having those conversations as a family being like okay well i could pour in my experience creativity you know all the back work on me totally and we do you know we kind of combine forces and have like a fun you can do the challenges again the big

fun things that we aren't really going to do on our family channel because it's just going to make family life. We know that we didn't want to do challenges on our family stuff anymore. Then we also didn't want our little Brent family to just turn into a me and everything because people want to see the whole family. So when we brought it up to her about the Kola Neve thing, her eyes just lit up and she was like, yes. We're like, this is something that we can do. This is an opportunity. And we're just kind of very real that if we don't do this, then we'll probably start really...

slipping away in the backs of social media, which is totally fine. But if this is something that you ever want to do, then we should probably do it now. We've been having so much fun. It's been a lot of fun. It's been a lot of good bonding time for me and Ev because, again, she's a busy kid. She's homeschooled, but she has a hybrid program where she's homeschooled three days a week, goes in-person school two days a week. She has friends. She has dance, a lot of dance. So this is a good opportunity for me to have some one-on-one time with her because I do see her a lot, but more in a family. Yeah.

space that's really good to have like one-on-one time with each of your kids and so this has been a lot of fun for us yeah you recently went to la together was that for the channel yeah yeah so we went there so everyone was actually there for dance with her grandma for a couple days and then i came and swapped off with grandma from grandma was helping with dance and now i'm there

People think you're just filming videos the entire time, but in reality, we'll film a video in one to three hours is probably what it takes. Then you got the rest of the day to hang out. Even if we are filming a video, it doesn't feel like work. I don't want people thinking that it feels like

Yeah. Work like we're just having a lot of fun. You know, it's like a sour candy challenge. Like any kid would love to do. And it's like you just got a bunch of sour candy. And I really have like my kid that like she's not going to do something that she doesn't want to do. Yeah. So, yeah. That's cool. So she's having a lot of fun with this. It's funny. Like we've gotten to meet our fair share of creators over the course of the three years that we've done this like as our job now, I guess.

And it's funny just to meet the different personalities. There are people that like, they always have their phone out, they're always recording something. And I was interested, like when we showed up today, like what's the vibe would you guys give off? And like you guys, like it just seemed like a very normal family. It didn't really seem like, I didn't see any phones out. You guys were just like doing your thing.

And I think people don't realize like how much there is off camera compared to what is on camera. Cause like, like you said, like you can make a video in one to three hours. Obviously depends on like the style of content that it is. But it was just cool. Like you guys have such like a normal life off camera, which I thought was really neat. Yeah. Thanks. Yeah. Yeah. We love it. You know, and obviously that's like the on camera part is like filming at one to three hours and then all the prep, all the leg work, all that kind of stuff is obviously the harder, longer, more time consuming stuff that I like to, I like to do.

- Yeah, yeah. - So then whenever it's all set already, just the fun part, which is honestly filming it. - Yeah. - Yeah. - Then that's when it's like, we do that. - But the Kool and Ev channel, like, do you have a producer working with you? Are you the producer? Does Everly come up with the ideas? How do you, 'cause it's funny, like people don't realize like with creators, a lot of times, depending on the style of content, like,

If you're producing like a TV show style video, TV shows have like 20, 30, 40 employees working on one show. But when you're a creator, it's like sometimes just you or just you and a friend or whatever. So like how do you approach who takes on which roles with that new channel? Yeah.

A lot of successful people, and we were talking about that too off camera, they do good at delegating things off. - He's really good at doing things on his own. - We never did that as a family channel. I literally had a small camera smaller than these that we would film every video on. - It'd be funny 'cause we'd go to collab with somebody and they would have so much help, so many big cameras and stuff, and we're just like, "Hello." With our little tiny phone. We'd almost feel awkward like this.

But all that being said with this new channel, I feel like it just works for that worked for us. That worked for them. But with this new channel, as it grows, we are wanting to make it more professional and make the challenges bigger and more fun and all that kind of stuff is very time consuming. So if, and as the channel grows, we'd like to start delegating that kind of stuff off. But right now it's me and I have, I do have an editor for the channel.

And a videographer. I have a videographer who videos us. So I'm not holding it anymore. Oh, no way. So I'm not behind camera, which is actually fun. I can actually be there. So yeah, it's a little step up for us. It's fun. That's cool. And then how do you navigate the whole, like you're putting all this work in the channel, but then like say Everly doesn't want to film one day or like, I don't know, like how do you navigate that?

Yeah. I mean, every idea I run by Everly to be like, hey, does this sound fun? Yeah. You know, and if she ever says no, we're not doing it. Yeah. Again, I could never, even if I wanted to, I could never force Everly to make a video. She's extremely strong-willed. She's first born. Yeah. And if she's in a video, then she wanted to be in that video. Yeah. So I always run every video by her. I told her that if this isn't something that we are both having so much fun with, it is not worth it. Yeah.

And like in the most humble of ways, we've done well on social media to where we don't need to do this. We see this as an opportunity for us to have a lot of fun and for it to turn into something potentially big and amazing for a lot of people. But yeah, so long story short, just told everybody that if we're not having fun, we're not going to do it. If you don't want to film, we're not going to film that day. Yeah.

It's kind of good for her to have like one-on-one time. Yeah. It's four kids. We just launched like six weeks ago. So it's still new. It's fresh. It looks like it's killing it. Like I think your videos are, I was just taking a quick look and you're going to subscribers and I want to say a lot of videos are like nearing a million or like maybe even over a million. I don't know. But like, yeah, it looks like it's doing well. Yeah. It's been fun. Yeah. You know, it's fun to see something that you're having so much fun doing that you would love to continue doing. Yeah. Actually, yeah.

Do well enough to keep doing it. Totally. Well, like, okay, for instance, when I was a kid, like, I was, I begged my parents to, like, please, I want to audition for Disney Channel or Nickelodeon. Like, I just loved the arts and loved making videos and I wanted to be, like, in that stuff. But we, you know, I was... You totally look like a Disney Channel kid. You do.

But I lived in Missouri. You too, actually. I wasn't in LA. Like, I didn't have, like, the connections or we didn't know anybody. And then my parents, I think, like, they wanted me to have a normal childhood, which I'm, like, very thankful for. But, like, as a kid, I would have loved to do that. So, like, I totally understand, like, kids wanting to do that because I wanted to do that as a kid. Yeah. If YouTube would have existed when you were a child, Matt, you would have been all over it. I would have loved it. Wait. It.

Actually, it did. But there wasn't like the YouTube like we have now. Yeah, it's not like what it is now. When we were kids, there was nobody saying like, I want to be a YouTuber. I feel like it was that rainbow cat. No, no. Charlie bit my finger was huge when I was a kid. It was more so viral videos versus trade. But Fred, dude. Fred. I loved Fred. Fred was the first of his kind. So funny. But see, he was so unique that he got picked up by like Nickelodeon, right? Oh, yeah. Yeah. Oh, yeah. He has a couple movies, huh? And he had his own movies? Yeah. That's funny. Totally. Well, as we're wrapping up,

I want to ask you, what's the future for the LeBrant family? What do you see down the line for you guys? Me? Well, we're in Tennessee. I don't know. I just see slower-paced life, just so much family time. I just love hanging out with my kids and my husband. And I feel like another baby in the future. I don't know. Yeah, and I'm sure I remember you say that or people hear it. Maybe they're thinking like,

social media wise but whenever we hear it it's more so just like yeah yeah for our fam yeah and it's very just yep live life everybody's going to fifth grade yeah posy's gonna be five this year which is hard for us to believe wow sunday's having her first birthday so it's just like those moments of like oh well it's so hard to say what's next in the whole future but this next year just raising those raising raising these kids every day is busy and it's fun yeah it's full

And our kids are throwing up all day last night. And then we're always ready for that 9 p.m. where we get to hang out with each other. Yep. Just us. Yep. Hopefully still love each other. Oh, no. Going for the strong handhold. So, yeah. Yeah. Oh, sorry.

Nothing to it. Nothing to it. Mr. Mike, I'm fixing the mics. No, I'm curious. Like, do you think this is going to be a thing that you carry on? Like, how long will the LeBrant family vlog, like, continue? Because I think for us, like, with our channels, I personally love making videos and Abby enjoys it too. But I feel like one day Abby will probably be, probably just like one of them. I will disappear from the internet and never post again. Yeah.

But like, I think I'll be making... That's very similar to me. Like, him and Everly love it. And that's why I feel like they've shifted. And I would love to just be like...

playing outside with all of my children and yeah i'm just more just more simple but they like making the videos and they're having fun so yeah that's kind of the direction that's funny but i would still like to like keep you know every once in a while even if we're kind of stopped doing the family stuff eventually every once in a while we are like give a little update on the kids just because i feel like it's fun for them to watch videos of them growing up and it's like home videos you know so

Little updates here and there are fun. That's so interesting. I'm the same way as you, Cole, where I feel like I'll be making TikToks and YouTube videos until I'm 85. Yeah, Cole loves his videos. He's good at them. It's just so much fun. And I started when I was 12. And I don't think, why would I ever stop? I hope.

I hope one day we get to a point like you guys where it's like, we don't need to, I mean, it's not like we need to keep doing this. Like we could obviously, Abby got a teaching degree. I'm 15 credit hours from finishing my finance degree. I guess I could always finish that up. Yeah. But like, I don't know. It'd be cool to, I just want to keep creating for a long time. So yeah. And it's good to get to a place where like,

And you're doing what you love. Yeah, exactly. That's always the dream is to be able to do what you love without doing it for a salary, right? Yeah, yeah. So that's ideally even like the dream as parents. And I imagine any parent for their kids is like –

we don't want our kids to, if they don't have to, work a terrible job that they hate just to pay the bills. Like, Everly loves dancing, right? She loves dancing. She would love to be a dance teacher, instructor, whatever that is. Sometimes that doesn't cut it financially, right? But if she can be set up, so then, hey, you could be a dance teacher because you love dancing, not because you gotta pay the bills. Like, that is a dream come true as parents with all of our kids. And I'm sure there's a lot of kids that would be obsessed with taking dance classes from Everly. Aw, yeah.

little dancer she would love that that would be fun oh my goodness well cole and savannah thank you for being on our podcast thank you so much hey you guys just set up on our back patio i know we're just sitting here this is easy for us we're just chilling back here this is so funny we've actually this is our first episode that we've filmed outside we can literally just see like trees back here take a really nice nap right here oh yeah no but seriously thank you and i was like

scary to go on someone else's so thank you for trusting us that and then also your time is so valuable so thank you yeah of course thank you guys thank you guys this is a lot of fun awesome all right three two one