Sam and Monica on Marrying a Brit, Losing My Mom to Cancer & Consulting a Psychic
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We actually haven't said anything on social media about this. She stopped birth control like a month ago. I would not be surprised if you're pregnant right now. That happened to us. Abby pulled the goalie and boom, right away. You guys recently consulted a psychic. That lady was like a real psychic. She made like a bunch of predictions for our life. It was crazy. Everything that woman said actually did happen. Brits have bad teeth though, right? Your teeth look great by the way, so I'm not saying anything about you. I don't know if this is

true. I read that statistically Brits actually have less cavities than Americans. My biggest thing was like I never got to give his mom grandkids. In my dream, I was with his mom. I was in a hospital bed and she was like, I'm always going to be here with you. John Krasinski was also there. We sat down with long distance TikTok couple Sam and Monica.

In 2021, Sam received the horrible news that he lost his mom to cancer. It came as a complete shock to the entire family, especially because it happened just months before Sam and Monica's wedding. We talk about everything from controversy over Monica taking Sam's last name, trying for a baby, and what it means to lose your Nando's virginity.

You guys have been together longer than us, but you are still somehow in the honeymoon phase. How is that? How is that possible? Tell me about it. That's a good question. I don't know if we actually still are in the honeymoon phase. I think we're just so reliant on each other. Yeah. That we just like. I don't know. I don't know how to describe it. I like to think we're still in the honeymoon phase. Are we?

I think I am. You guys seem very bubbly and in love in your videos. Is that how you actually are all the time? You know what's crazy? We're actually worse in person. Not like from a PDA kind of... Oh no, this is... I didn't fart. I was just opening up the can. I was like, do I look... I'm drinking a carbonated beverage. I thought you farted. I just thought I'd see a little flutter. Yeah.

I just spilled all over myself. Okay. You carry on. Yeah, you said fart so elegantly. Fart.

Wait, how do I say fart differently? You said fart. Fart. We say fart. And that's just not cute. I say two. I'm going to do a fart. The TikTok of you doing an American accent ordering coffee. Oh my gosh. You nailed it. Thank you. You nailed it. Well, I've got some practice because every time we go through a drive-thru, the kind of intercom system muffles my voice. So I have to put on a fake American accent. Otherwise, they don't understand me.

His name's always Sal. Yeah, it's always Sal. Every time I say, hey, my name's Sam, they think it's Sal because I have to go, Sam. Hey, I'm Sam.

And then they understand that. I don't like it at all. I hate everything about that. Wait, so can you order how you would currently and then do your American version? Okay. As a Brit, how do you, like, give us an impression of how you order at Starbucks. No, I want the British one. First, I'll do English, like how I actually order. And then, so, like, when I'm not thinking about it, I'll go up and I'll say, hey, I'll have a water and a coffee, please. And they're like, you'll have a what? Oh, a water and a coffee. I don't know.

to say when you say water though like water like you're like in your water like i hear it water how do they not know what he said but like i said i think it's the intercom system oh yeah my voice so they're like you want to what that's hilarious but what like what type of coffee do you get though because it's i get he gets half and half that's where he gets thrown off when you say oh when i yeah when we used to live in new york like half and half was like the big like i always got half and half the way you just said that i don't like how he's

and I say half and half so like I would go into like if we got bagels and we went to the deli or something I'd be like can I have a large half and a half and they're like a large what I'm like oh half and half that's hilarious I didn't know that Monica was from New York and I was like wait a second you're from the east coast yeah I was talking before when you were over there and he's like what did you say you're like where are you from because I could just tell it was the way that you were saying yeah horrible yeah you said horrible horrible horrible horrible I say horrible wait I kind of say it like you but how do you

do you say i say horrible horrible but without like a har like it's like horrible that was a bit accentuated i don't even know anymore no no when you say a word too many times and then you yeah it doesn't sound like a word how do i say it i want to go back to the part of like how you guys don't fight actually oh yeah well i mean we bicker but i think the main thing like a big fight

In a long time. I mean, we don't, we just try not to do anything wrong to put ourselves into position when we get into a big fight. But we definitely bicker. Like, we 100% bicker. Like, I get frustrated all the time because all she wants to eat is, like, chicken nuggets and pizza. I'm like, no, you're getting much better. You're getting much, much, much better. You now eat beans as well. You like beans? I like beans. Did you see the video where she tried a baked bean? You don't like baked beans? No. Oh, no. I love baked beans. And I don't like what they do to him either. I have a mind of beans. I don't either.

I had them on pizza. Do you fart when you eat beans? I fart. Just a little tooth. I'm not going to say fart ever again now. That's so funny. She tried a bean and she freaked out and acted like it was the worst thing in the entire world. It was. It's a vegetable. Oh, I love beans. Can we talk about your love story for a second? Because if I did my research correctly, you were kind of stalking Sam on Twitter, right? Like you were like...

A little bit. Slide it into the DMs. Can you tell me about this? I did slide it to the DMs. So basically, we had a mutual friend that we both met through YouTube and everything. So she sent me a picture of, like a screenshot of Sam's Twitter. And she's like, oh, I'm going to this social media thing. I'm going to hang out. This is the guy that's setting it all up. And I literally zoomed. And I'm like, whew.

who is that man? You know what's awesome? I literally was in love already. I was going to say, the first thing she said is she texted our friend Emmy back and she said, I'm going to marry that man one day. I was like, I want that man to love me. At this point, London was my dream destination. I've never been there. I've never really traveled at all. So I was never thinking I was even going to meet this guy. And she sent me another picture of her, Sam, and this other guy. And she's like, oh, this is another British guy. And I was like, no, no, no, no. The middle guy. And it was Sam in the middle. So I was like,

I just, I don't know. Immediately it's from seeing him. I was like, I'm in love with this guy. Never think I'm going to meet him. I mean, look at him though. Literally, the voice, everything about him was perfection. So I went to go visit her in London. She lives in Scotland, but I went to go visit her in London and she couldn't meet me because she had finals. So she's like, oh my God, like I can't come down. Let me ask Sam. And I'm like, okay. She showed me a picture of Monica and I was like,

she's a New Yorker. I was like, she's an American from the big city, the big apple. Actually she lives in, she lives on long Island or lived on long Island. So not actually from the big Apple, but still I was like, wow, like this cute American girl is into me. And I was a broke 19 year old kid. I didn't have a dollar to my name. So I was like, I don't know how the heck I'm going to make this work, but I really, really want to see this girl. So Emmy, our mutual friend messaged me and she was like, Hey, like Monica's going to fly into the UK, into London. She's booked her flight months in advance and,

And I've got exams at university in Edinburgh. So I can't get down to kind of see her in London. Is there any chance you're like down in London at the time? I was like, oh yeah, yeah, yeah. I feel like it was like a 10 minute drive. Yeah, let me just hop on a quick train. It was like a three hour train ride. I grew up in a town called Chester, London.

for her about half an hour from Harry Styles, which I still kind of low-key think is why we're together. Only half of the reason. Okay. I was actually curious because, yeah, you're a big Harry Styles fan. Oh, it's like unhealthy. And so, so like meeting this, you know, this cute British boy from the UK, like you're probably like, oh my gosh, this is my Harry right here. Literally. Because I, like, it was kind of weird. Growing up, I had British flags in my room. I loved British music that like most Americans never even like heard of. So like, I was like,

I felt like I was like British growing up. Did you listen to the Beatles? Not really. I love them so much. Now I do. When I was a kid, our neighbor, for whatever reason, he would just burn us these CDs with like all the Beatles songs. So I was listening to Yellow Submarine. I was just like jamming to every Beatles song you could mention when I was a kid. And we would just play soccer. And I,

I thought he convinced us that he was British. He was like, no, it's called football. You're like, oh, he's a Brit. Yeah. No, seriously. And then my brother, for his third grade history project, talked about Guy Fawkes and all this British history. And we started eating scone. Oh, Guy Fawkes. I don't even know. Guy Fawkes.

So I totally botched that. No, you're good. It's an accent. Yeah. Anyway, I mean, we ate scones, though. Okay, so you were kind of British. I love it. Basically, yeah. I feel like maybe did One Direction kind of make this British phase enter the US? I remember that phase. Yeah, it was that. Honestly, you were always a big fan of McFly. Yeah, do you guys know McFly? Busted and...

the vamps and stuff like that as well weren't you which is yeah like bands that just never really made it over here but i was just like i loved everything british i do like the vamps they got yeah their song all night oh oh my gosh yeah i get chills listening to that song that's me with every hair yeah here i am a 25 year old dad of two and i'm listening to boy bands you know oh me too that's the best kind of music i'm listening so i'm like bradley's got such a good voice

See, I didn't even know the name. I remember when Justin Bieber came out with the Purpose album, I was like secretly listening to it and loving it, but I was like, I can't tell anybody. No, you're not allowed to. Tell your secret. The world needs to know. So...

What was it? Probably 2012 or something. 2010? No, probably 2009 actually. It was ages ago, wasn't it? When Justin Bieber first came out with like the flippy hair and the purple caps and all that kind of stuff. I bought a purple snapback and a pair of Super TK Society shoes. I googled which shoes Justin Bieber wears and I bought them. And he left the sticker on the hat because Justin Bieber left the sticker on the hat. Oh my word. Everyone did that. Oh man. So you had Bieber fever. Yeah.

I did. I want, no, I want it to be, I still kind of do. I mean, he's a cool guy, but like I've,

I wanted to be Justin Bieber so bad. I started posting covers on YouTube. I was a choir boy when I was growing up. Wait, you sing too? Yeah, yeah, yeah. No way. I was in Chess Cathedral Choir growing up. So I was a little choir boy and in the choir in my school and all that kind of stuff. And then I kind of got out of school and I played a bunch of instruments and all that kind of stuff. And I got out of school and started kind of switching from classical music to more like kind of poppy stuff. That's why I kind of partly started posting on YouTube and stuff. And like 2012, I wanted to be the next Justin Bieber so bad.

He had the hair. It didn't happen. He did have the hair. I had the flippy hair and everything. That's so funny because in 2011 or 2010, I posted a video of me singing Baby. Really? And I thought that's all you had to do. I was like, I posted my one video. You're like, Scooter Braun is going to find me. Scooter's going to see it. I'm going to get picked up. This is it.

You know what's crazy? Why do we have exactly the same childhood? I did exactly the same. Cody Simpson blew up off I'm Yours by Jason Mraz. Do you remember Cody Simpson? Of course. Oh, yeah. He blew up off I'm Yours, Jason Mraz. So like the week later, I posted that and I was like, I'm going to blow up. I'm going to be famous now. Cute.

I think what people don't realize is like there's so much luck involved with that. And then a lot of the people that you do see blow up have been grinding for like 10 years. Absolutely. And they just, you know, worked so hard that eventually when their lucky moment came, they had already like done all the work to get there. Yeah. Ed Sheeran. Yeah. He was busking and playing little tiny shows and worked so hard for years. Did you guys hear his first ever demo from when he was like 15?

He was like 15. He was busking. Is he good? It was terrible. No, he said it himself. Like he posted it being like, guys, this is what I want sounded like. And with consistency and like singing all day, every day and just,

going for it like this is the end product I mean he's much too modest to say that but yeah that's basically what he was that's good though I truly believe that hard work trumps talent any day of the week because you can have all the talent in the world but if you're not gonna work hard someone who's gonna work harder than you will beat you eventually absolutely you know talent will get definitely give you a head start but

hard work and perseverance is the way to actually kind of push forward. Is there an obsession with American girls in the UK? Like in the same way that all these American girls are like, I love the British boys. Is that a thing in the UK? I mean, I think there's an obsession with like American actresses and singers in the UK, but it's not like a thing like British boys aren't like, I want to find an American wife. Like it's, it's not like that, but,

You know, like, growing up, I had the biggest crush on, like, Jessica Alba and Mila Kunis and Victoria Justice and, like, people like that. Like, so, like, my, like, crushes growing up were all American girls, but it was just because they were on TV and in movies and stuff. Like, it wasn't specifically because they were American. Gotcha. And were you watching the American shows, like, on Nickelodeon, Drake and Josh? Yeah. Were you watching? I loved Drake and Josh. Okay, same. I can't do it. No.

of all lines or like jimmy neutron did you watch jimmy neutron as a kid no that was my jimmy neutron i loved jimmy neutron and fairly odd parents those were my shows as a child we had fairly odd parents i didn't really watch it much i mainly watched i watched recess tom and jerry the flintstones nobody didn't watch spongebob what he doesn't get any of my spongebob yeah but all my spongebob lines you're always like what are you talking about

I know the song now because she has watched it so much since we've been together. She's been an adult the whole time we've been together. What is the biggest misconception about British people? Misconception. Misconception. I have purse. Please tell me what I'm talking about. The biggest misconception. What do people have? What is it that people have wrong about the Brits? I have purse. You know what? I think the biggest misconception. What's going on? I don't have TikTok. TikTok.

what you said. Yeah, I do that all the time. Do you know the TikTok I have purse? I've what? No, what is it?

where they mess up what they're saying that he says like i haven't i don't even know how to describe it i haven't seen the tiktok but i think it's so funny when people mess up their words because i do it all the time you know what i did it i did it i was we were being filmed for this thing the other day and i was like it was like so much pressure because there's tons of cameras around me and stuff and uh and i said line where i said in typical british fashion and i was so nervous i said fashion i went in typical british fashion i was like oh my word and i just rolled with it i was like yeah it's

That's how I say it. It sounded right. Yeah. It sounded good. That's just how I say it. No, the biggest misconception I would say is Americans all think that Brits have...

have terrible food but i think the food in the uk is amazing but they okay brits have bad teeth though right isn't that a thing statistically i thought you were gonna say i don't know if this is true your teeth look great by the way so i'm not i'm not saying anything about you you're really flattering you today man thank you very much i appreciate this thank you so much um

apparently i read maybe we should just sit by each other in our lives you want to hold hands yeah you want to just budge over next to abby honey would that be okay here let's switch it up should we go sit by each other i was like are you serious i was like is that happening um what was i gonna say yeah no i read it on instagram so it's probably not true but i read that statistically brits actually have less cavities than americans why do you know brits don't get their teeth cleaned

Yeah, that's not a thing in the UK. I mean, maybe it was just my dentist because I had a really dodgy dentist growing up. Like, like it's really like he got his license taken away and he moved to Holland and stuff. Like it was dodgy. He was doing like illegal stuff.

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fondly remember Matt when we first started dating when he'd come to visit me at my parents' house. We were still in high school and so I had my childhood cat that had lived in our house forever. He lived a long life and he was a long-haired cat that shed a lot and Matt would sneeze like 50 times in a row. Yeah, so I had to take Claritin at Abby's house or I would just have sneeze attacks.

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on one of my teeth when I was, I think I was like seven or eight years old or something like that. And it was only when I came to America, I got with an American dentist, Dr. Leth. He's, he's awesome. And, um,

And he was like, so you see like there's like a tiny bit of discoloration on one of my teeth down here. And he was like, so you know what that discoloration is? I'm like, no, I've been brushing it like crazy. He was like, well, you had a root canal. And he said the way it was done, apparently they stopped that method like 15 years ago, 20 years ago. It's crazy. And he was like.

you know, it had to have been done when you were like seven years old. And he was like, can you remember having a root canal when you were seven years old? I was like, no, I, there's no, why would I have had a root canal at seven years old? And apparently this guy was just beating the system and making a killing. And I asked my dad about him a couple of years ago. And like I said, he apparently he's got his, he got his license removed and he, he got a divorce. His wife divorced him. He left and fled to Holland. Yeah.

Oh, frick. That really was something serious. That really plays into the whole British teeth thing, doesn't it? Sounds like Dr. Beth to me. Has this happened to other dentists in the UK? Not that I know of. Are all your friends like, dude, same, my dentist fled Holland. Oh my gosh. It's all like Jennifer Aniston in Horrible Bosses. Oh my gosh. Wait, can we take it back to your love story? Yeah, sorry. I've been blaring like crazy. Sorry, everybody. I was lost.

London. So I got on a train. So I got on a train to London. We'll rewind. Yeah, so she flew into London. I told her that it was like a 20-minute train ride or something ridiculous. I was like, yeah, like everyone thinks the UK is tiny. Like everyone literally thinks the UK is just London. Matt, get it together. Stop laughing. I'm sorry. I'm going to show that. How do we get on above our teeth? I don't know.

I'm sorry. I blather so much. It's terrible. Like we have this, I'm going to stop blathering. It's okay. I'll stop blathering. Um,

Anyway, I got on this three-hour train journey. We met up in London. I was meant to put her on a train to Scotland, but I mean, we kind of semi-planned it in advance. Like, she booked a hotel just in case we had chemistry kind of thing. Not for that. Not for that. I was a gentleman. That's what happened. Okay. Yeah, yeah, yeah. No, I mean, like, in case we wanted to stay together in London and, like, hang out and explore. One night stand. I was going to say, explore each other. Explore the area. Yeah.

Oh my god. We didn't do that. I think I was a gentleman, right? I didn't make a move at all until you did. He did not make a move for four days. For four days! I did not make a move until you did. I did not make the first move. It was four days. Okay, four days. But we were talking online for a while. We met on the 11th of October. Ish. And I asked her to be my girlfriend on the 16th of October and it was then. Yeah. Yeah.

In 2015. In 2015, yeah. Yeah, wow. That sounds like a long time ago. I feel old. That's insane. How old are you guys? I'm 29. I'm 27. I just turned 29, yeah. Which is weird because I've got such a baby face. I still get Aspirin D, which is amazing. I don't even drink, so I don't know why I get Aspirin D. You really could pass for 19. Thank you. I appreciate that. You guys both are youthful. Thank you.

So are you guys. You guys are flattering us so much. This is amazing. I'm going to come in much more often. You made a move four days in then? Five days in. Well, actually. No, it was four. So we basically, so we landed in London. I took her to Nando's straight away. Like Nando's is the spot in England that everyone has to go to. Like there's a whole thing in England about losing your Nando's virginity.

You're kidding. It's like when people had their first Nando's, it's like a big thing. Like Ed Sheeran wrote a song about it. Like it's, it's huge. Big ups to Nando's. Like everyone loves Nando's. But why though? Why do people lose their virginity in Nando's? No, no, I mean it's loser Nando's virginity. So it's like the first time they eat Nando's, they've lost their virginity. I'm so dumb. I'm,

I'm not tracking at all. Can someone please explain this to me? So like the first time they eat Nando's, it's like, they're losing their, losing their Nando's virginity. Oh my God. You thought he brought me to a restaurant? No, I thought Nando's was like a beach. I thought it was like a beach, like a, like,

Miami it's like oh we went to like the beach and stayed at this nice hotel it's also legal man so Nando's sorry it's what is it it's a restaurant that everyone talks about so I was like it's a big thing I cannot with you Nick is there something like you know is the food an aphrodisiac like what is it no it has nothing to do with sex am I allowed to say sex on the podcast it's

literally just a restaurant that like every british person loves so it's like the first time you have it it's like a big deal so it's like losing god got it yeah okay okay i took it to nando's and it's some of the best chicken you'll ever eat it's like it's incredible so i took her there and i was like and she's obsessed with her chair as well i was like ed sheeran loves this place he's got black cards so he gets it for free every time he goes no way yeah really cool

And then so we get in, we look at the menu and she sees it says butterfly chicken, which means obviously the chicken breast has been butterflied. It's been split in half and butterflied the chicken. She read butterfly chicken. She was like, I'm not hungry. Because I'm like, I'm going to be okay. I'm like, maybe it's like they eat butterflies or something.

no idea so yeah that was not a good first date you said you didn't eat yeah i was literally so i was like i'm so sorry it's 1 p.m i haven't eaten anything all day how about i order a meal and you can like pick at it try it you can have some chips some fries you can um you know have like some whatever you want to have like from my meal and you can kind of work your way into it and um and she was like no no i'm okay i'm not hungry her stomach's like

growling like crazy and she was eating like stale Pringles under the table I felt so bad but now you love it I do I do love it now that's so funny but yeah did you know that you wanted to like get it on that day is that where you're like whoa there's like the Nando's Virginity song I'm so

You're like, we're going to go. We're going to lose our virginity at Fernando's. Was that your whole plan? No, it has nothing to do with actual virginity. It has nothing sexual whatsoever. Gosh, freaking dang it. Wait, I'm sorry. I think I just broke the sofa. Oh, it's okay. The sofa didn't break. I fell in the middle of it. Here, here. Let me move the sofa over for you. You know where we are at, right? I told you.

From the get-go. Everybody that's watching knows what's happening. He's bringing me to a restaurant. A little bit of virginity in a restaurant, apparently. Matt has a sick mom. Okay. Oh, my gosh. No. Okay. Let me explain. I know people think I'm an idiot. So I just want to explain. Look at me right now. Look at me right now.

He's using it as an analogy. The first time you have Nando's, it's like losing your Nando's virginity. It has nothing actually to do with sex. Nothing sexual. Totally. I get that. But where I got confused was I thought he was like, oh, because there's a song about Nando's virginity. No, there's no song about Nando's virginity. There's a song about Nando's, not Nando's virginity. I start to think that Matt is tracking and then he starts saying the next thing. Okay, there's a whole song about Nando's. I think there's just a lot.

there's a lot going on there's a song about nando's that's not even like a real song i feel like every time i try to explain i dig deeper and i make it worse basically what i thought was like you're like we're gonna go to this restaurant and then we're gonna have sex is that what happened no not at all dang it but what matt heard versus what was said it's just not okay well so can you explain this as if you're like explaining it to a very mature 10 year old i think

I think we should move on. Okay, let's go. We went to a restaurant. So we went to Nando's. Okay. After Nando's. After Nando's, we decided to end up, we booked a trip to France. No, no, no, no. No, no, no, no. What? Very important. I kissed you. Oh, he did kiss me. Oh.

Oh, that's sweet. Yeah, we went to a park. We were like sitting on this park bench and we were watching the pigeons and I watched like people watching people walking past and stuff like that. And then we like lay down this bench and I was like, I was like freaking out for like half an hour. I was like shaking so bad. I was like, do I really want to kiss this girl? I don't know if she's into me. Not thinking like, wait, she's just flown three and a half thousand miles. But yeah, we had our first kiss on that bench on the 11th of October, 2015. And then we ended up staying in London together for four days.

And then finally, when our mutual friend, Emmy, finished her exams, she got a train down to London and I got a couple of my friends to come down and we all flew to the south of France for like a week or 10 days or something, which sounds really cool, but it's like 50 bucks to fly anywhere in Europe. So it's like, you can do anything on a budget. I'm so jealous. That is so cool. It's like you going to Nevada. That's so sick. It's not a big deal. It's not as far. I love that. I love how you can just hop around all these different countries and experience different cultures and food and architecture. It's actually a crazy thing because...

You know, one of my friends actually did a video recently where flights are so cheap in Europe now that for the price of a pizza in the UK at a nice restaurant, he went to the airport, got a flight to Rome, ate a pizza and flew back for the same price. It was like 20 bucks. That's stupid. Yeah. It's insane, isn't it? I don't know how the airlines do it.

I have a theory. Maybe it wasn't the butterfly freaking you out as much. Maybe you were just nervous. I think that's what it was. That's how I was on our first date. We went to Chick-fil-A, which is maybe the American equivalent to Nando's. Yeah. And Matt was like trying to order me food and I was like, I'm hungry. And I was starving. Yeah.

I couldn't even eat a chicken nugget. I was so nervous. Is it also a thing of like eating in front of your crush as well? Yes. Because Monica's still like, if I'm filming, she's like, no, I don't want to eat. I don't want to be eating while you're filming. She's really kind of like insecure. Not insecure, but like weird. You don't like eating like in front of people or on camera. Is there anything to do with that? In front of people, it's fine. Well, it's not like you're covering your mouth. Don't laugh. No, I don't really have that. I just eat all the time on camera, actually.

I film what I eat in a day. I probably had like one comment once that said something or something. Maybe it's just like in my brain. I can't remember. Maybe that's what it is. No, I get it though. I don't know. Like a screenshot. I'm like, I don't know. You're like, I don't want to see that ever again. That's weird.

That's funny. Okay, so you went to South of France. So we went to South of France with our friends for like, I think like 10 days. And then from South of France, we flew to... Well, that's why you asked me to be your girlfriend. That's why I asked her to be my girlfriend, yeah. I didn't even think that was going to happen. Like, I thought we were just going to be like, kind of like a summer fling kind of thing. Even though at this point, I literally have kissed two people in my entire life. I was like... And it was so awkward as well because...

We were with all our friends in the Airbnb and I asked Monica, I said, hey, do you want to go out to dinner with me tonight? And she turns around, she goes, hey, everyone, you want to go out to dinner? I'm like, no, no, no, I'm asking you on a date. So we went to, I still remember the name of the restaurant, Le Jardin du Capital. So we went there and then we got, you got spaghetti.

Sorry. We're walking along the beach after and we were playing, was it like a would you rather kind of game? We're like 20 questions. You know, like when you first start talking to somebody, so we're just trying to get to know each other. And then his question was like, oh, what would you say if I asked you to be my girlfriend? I thought I'd say something. And then I'm like, yeah, you

So yeah, he asked me for his girlfriend and then we finished France. We flew to Amsterdam right after because I wanted to live out the falter. I was going to say Amsterdam has a bit of a reputation amongst Brits. I don't know about Americans, but like Amsterdam prostitution is legal and weed is legal and all that kind of stuff. So like people go there from the UK to party. So like when I told my parents that I was going to take Monica to Amsterdam, they're like,

like really is this girl like really is she a good influence on you yeah yeah that's exactly what what it's like and uh and i was like no no she's obsessed with this film called the fault in our stars and they filmed it and frank's house and they filmed it so we went there we spent like three or four days there and then she flew back to my parents house i was living with my parents at the time you know we're teenagers my parents lived in cheshire in the uk so i

We went there for probably like two or three weeks. And of course she made me drive her to the Harry Styles house and the Harry Styles bakery he works at and all that kind of stuff. That's how you won the heart. You brought me to all my little spots. But yeah, so I met his family really quick. And then...

Because we were so young, I guess it's filtering into something else, but we had to figure out ways to be able to continue this relationship. Because I thought, how is this going to work? Neither of us really had great jobs or anything, so it's like, how are we going to see each other? But here we are almost nine years later, so we figured it out. Yeah, and we were both working location-based jobs as well, so we actually had to be in an office or a place of work to work. So it was tough starting a long-distance relationship with that mind.

But yeah, no, so she flew back, I think at the start of November, didn't you, to New York. And then 23rd of November is her birthday. So I spoke with my parents for like a week nonstop about it. I was like, should I do this? Should I pursue this? And they were like, well, you're on your own if you want to. Like it's your mistake to make or it's your like blessing to have kind of thing. And I went into my bank overdraft to book my flight to go and visit her in New York. Like I was, yeah. Yeah.

every it was it was all or nothing really like i'm taking donations to visit my girlfriend but yeah then ever since that we just went back and forth for like six years and then now we finally it got it got a lot easier about a year later we started so we started a marketing company in april of 2016 we we

we don't really do it anymore. Um, cause we kind of lost passion for it, but we built up this social media management company where we managed to counsel businesses online and, uh, and we built it to, we were a team of like eight or 10 people at one point and it was really fun and stuff like that. But we started that in 2016 as a way to be able to kind of figure out how to work online and see each other for longer periods of time, which was, I think that really saved our relationship. Didn't that? Not that our relationship was dying, but like that,

I don't think our relationship would have survived if we... It's hard not seeing each other, like... Yeah. How... Like, what was the longest stretch of time where you guys didn't see each other in person? Probably, like, four months. Yeah. Honestly, not even that long. Like, for a long-distance couple, like, I feel like that's...

As long of distance as it was. Yeah, so probably four months. Different continents. As soon as we started working online, we could go like, I would go there for three months, then we'd spend like a month apart. Then he'd come for like two months and then we just did that. No way. And we had like no expense. You know, we both lived with our parents. Like we, I drove my mom's car. Like it was, you know, like I had no, all I needed to make was enough money for flight and food. So it was really...

We managed to kind of build up a company to that level within like six months or so. And then, and then finally could kind of quit our jobs and just kind of travel to see each other. And I love that you guys didn't let like the logistics get in the way that you just made it happen. It was hard. It was so hard. What was the hardest part? Would you say? I think in the beginning we both were like still so young. So like,

I was a little psycho because he was making me psycho because he was like a player and like here I am he was my first boyfriend oh I have not dated anyone before Sam I was like trust issues so I was like he was yeah he was you were still like kind of flirty with girls because he was still like in that player phase so like it was like I wasn't doing it intentionally I was just a dumb young kid and I had no idea so like that was what was like that it was like crossing a line and then as soon as she kind of said like hey like this is how I feel about it and we kind of had like a deep chat about it I was like

wait, I actually kind of saw it from her point of view. I was like, maybe I shouldn't like a girl's post on Instagram or maybe I shouldn't. It was just like we're at different phases. Like him being my first boyfriend, you like still, you were like kind of in your clubbing phase. So it was like hard in the beginning to be like, oh, he's out of the club. Was there like one instance where you're like, we need to have a heart to heart? Oh. You know what? That was actually, it got really, really tough at one point and it was nothing to do with like, neither of us did anything wrong or anything like that. I was visiting Monica in New York and

And I think I was just feeling really, really homesick. Like, you know, all my friends, all my family, my entire life was in the United Kingdom. And we were just kind of,

I don't even know why, but we were bickering over the smallest things 20 times a day. Everything. It was like literally like... We were 19 and 20 years old. We were just like... Everything was like a fight. Like she would move my slipper. I'd be like, why did you move my slipper? It was like the dumbest stuff. And it got to the point where I remember we were pulling into the road to go to your parents' house and in your car. And it was just us two. And I remember thinking like we just got out of like a...

like an argument and I remember thinking if this doesn't improve by the time I get to the airport in two days time we'll have to break up with each other at the airport and I guess those last two days we just kind of gave our all to the relationship and it's been amazing ever since the universe is like alright let's do something good here and then yeah I don't know what happened we were arguing about everything we were so young yeah it's like a switch clicks and just

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all out in the beginning because it was like every day we do have a rule now and I think it's been amazing for our relationship and our like number one rule is every time we do argue or bicker or anything we always make sure to sit down and resolve it before the end of the night because we've we found from at the start of our relationship that that was like 2016 that happened and we found that like by not

stuff at the end of an ice and kind of letting the tension build up. Finally, we kind of exploded and there was a giant argument and we've never really had that again because we kind of stomp it while it's small. Did you guys bring any baggage or...

anything from past relationships interrelationship like was that a cause of any bickering i never had a relationship oh so you just kissed a few dudes but never had like been on any dates yeah gotcha was this like truth or dare was this like other kisses yeah like what were these other kisses you had a little college kiss didn't you i had a college kiss i did have a college kiss it was on my birthday that was actually my first kiss i was 18 when i had my first kiss which is

Is that sad? I don't know. No. I was 18. It's not sad at all. Yeah, a guy kissed me in college. I had a crush on him, but we never dated or anything. And then another guy, this was like months, months later. I'm out of college at this point. And I was not. Is this at Sharon and McCullough? I hope he does not watch this. Oh my word. I don't even know how to say without laughing. There was someone from my school that wanted to hang out. Okay. Never, ever flirted with this man. I thought we were just hanging out. Like he just wanted a friend. I'm like, cool. Let's hang out.

He knew I loved Ed Sheeran. He put Ed Sheeran on in the car. It was the song Kiss Me by Ed Sheeran. And he goes, I think Ed Sheeran wrote this song for me to you. And then he kissed me. And I like pulled right. I was like looking out his window in the car. Like, like I did not want to like keep going. Oh no. So that, yeah, that was my, does that count as like a second kiss? Was that uncomfortable? Like you just, you did not want to kiss him?

that's so bad. If you're going to use a pickup line like that, you know, it's like, maybe this isn't the best idea. It was like a hit or miss. But he missed. It could have been incredible. It could have been dreadful. Yeah. And then a few months later, that's when you and I started talking online. And then, yeah, that was, just two kisses. And that was,

And that was it. My experience before was like the exact opposite. Like I was the drinking age of UK is 18. And so as soon as I turned 18, I started drinking and I don't really drink anymore, but I think I've kind of got that whole phase out of my life. So like I literally never drink now, but that I went through like probably three or four years where I was like a proper little party animal. And I'd like want to go clubbing all the time, like drinking, playing drinking games and all that kind of stuff. And so my experience was, was really different. Yeah.

He was a player. You were? You could just let it out. Really? You could just let it out. You were a player. Why was he a player? Just like you... I mean, you've had...

a lot of relationships haven't you I've had a few different relationships before Monica and stuff yeah he was the flirty I could tell from the flirtiness in the beginning you were like that player dude but he toned it down it won you over though didn't it it did win me over it did you were like I got my romance my British romance I've lost it all now oh my gosh yeah that's why I was like really nervous in the beginning because like I had no experience with like anything at all

And here's this guy. I remember when we were first messaging. We were messaging on Twitter. And I was like, oh, we should book a trip together. No, guys, I'm throwing you under the bus right now. You said a lot more than that. I was coming off to say that. It was not that sweet. And I was like, I'm a big cuddler. And she was like, oh, yeah, me too. You've never cuddled me a guy in my life. I was like, you've got to cuddling.

I just thought about that. I've never cuddled with another man before. You're like, I'm a giant cuddler. I was like, I cuddle naked. She was like, oh my god, me too. He goes, I hope you don't have a problem. I cuddle naked. And he put like the slanted, like, you know, the slant emoji. Had you guys not met before? It was like probably a few days into talking that he says that. Your mom says that. She's like, absolutely get off of the messaging. I've never seen a man naked before. And he's talking about like, oh, we're going to cuddle naked. I'm like, oh. I was so scared. You're like, I'm too.

- Oh my gosh. - That's so cringy. - It was working, the way that you worded everything, I was like, it was like Christian Grey. - It wasn't your Christian Grey with zero dollars to his name.

It was like attractive reading it. But here I am like, I was so scared. I was so terrified. But in the messages, you can't tell. I was like, yeah, I can't wait. Do you still have messages? Of course. Yeah, we got them screenshotted. Oh God, it's bad. Yeah, that wasn't your first rodeo. You kind of knew the words. That's what I mean. You knew the words to say. What was it about Monica though that made you realize, oh, this is the one. Like these past relationships. I think it's the fact that she was, she was really straightforward with stuff. Like,

I don't know if it's a UK thing or it's probably like a worldwide thing, but like my experience growing up was girls would always play hard to get. And, you know, like it was just like a game. Like dating was a game. Like you would be like, you know, flirting back and forth and then going cold and then flirting back and forth and blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. And like it was really, it was like a breath of fresh air when Monica, like literally she was like texting this girl, Emmy, being like, I want to marry this man. I'm in love with this man. And I was like, wow, okay, so I know where I stand. Yeah.

And then, I mean, look at her. She's the most incredible woman. And now I'm going to cry. No, so she was like the most attractive girl I've ever seen. And then I was like, this girl literally is American. Like, this is so cool. Sweet. I love that. So, yeah. How was that? So how did you propose? So, basically, you know I said that I asked to be my girlfriend in the south of France, walking along a beach.

So I surprised her with a trip back there for our fourth anniversary in 2019. And so we flew out. We got on Airbnb. She was deathly sick. It was so sad. I was so sick. She was like... I don't know what I had. I had something. Nose and eyes were streaming. She was coughing. I was sneezing and coughing and stuff. We literally flew back like...

I think the next day, didn't we? We caught a trip short and flew back because we both felt so sick. But it was our anniversary. So like, I didn't think anything was going to happen. And at that point, it was four years into dating. And he was always like, it's going to be at least seven years until I propose. Like he would tell like my mom that all the time. Like he was like, you know, I just want to like wait, whatever. But I remember he brought me up to this like,

Well, we rented a car. So we were staying in Nice and then Monaco is probably like a 45 minute drive away. So for our anniversary, we wanted to spend the day in Monaco and, um, you know, I wanted to see all the supercars and she wanted to see like, you know, have the incredible food and the clothes and all that kind of stuff. And, um, as you're driving, I,

went up on top of this mountain area called La Tete de Chien and it overlooks Monaco. And then I basically, I had this video that was like a minute and a half long of all the travel clips and relationship clips and stuff like that, that had taken B-roll over the last four years of being together.

and I edited it down to this little minute and a half video and I did a voiceover basically saying how much I love her and how much I want to spend the rest of my life with her and stuff like that so brought my computer up to the top of this mountain and uh I set up the cameras and I said but we were going to do a photo shoot for our anniversary we're like oh let's just get some cute pictures so I was like oh and honestly on the way up to like this cliff area like I saw his hands in the car like this like fidgeting and I'm like why is he so

fidgeting and then like i also in our backpack i saw a box but like at this point i was like he always says seven years like there's no way he's gonna be like proposing today so like i even saw the ring box and in my head i'm like for like a split second i was like oh is he proposing but then i was like no no it's not but yeah so we're taking the pictures and then we're like

just thinking it's for our anniversary cute pictures as soon as you brought out the computer that's when I knew that something was like really yeah oh you didn't know I was no I just yelled into the microphone it wasn't it wasn't the ring box that like no like he oh like he was so adamant he's always like seven years like at least seven years before I proposed like I was so sure because you said it so many times so you really threw me off there

But yeah, that was the video. I played this video and I ended the video. I just like to me, I'm like, if I saw a ring box, I'd be like, does he just carry rings around all the time? No, it was like, it

was like it was like a box in a box so like okay i was like oh maybe it's earrings or like a bracelet oh you just saw like the jeweler's box yeah okay jeweler's box because i always wanted that as well i was like how did you not no no i didn't see like the actual ring box i saw like a jewelry box i was like oh maybe he got me earrings you do seem like a jewelry guy though like i i've noticed i think is that a rolex on your on your hand what yeah that's pretty fancy a watch a wasp

I've got a watch obsession. I love my watches. That's dope. I only buy watches that appreciate in value, though, so I treat them as savings accounts. Really? Yeah. In the band? What is that? This, my sister actually just got me for my birthday a month ago. She got it in Portugal when she was just doing a whole trip all around Europe, and she got it for me, and I've worn it every day since. I mean, it's only been just over a month, but I love it. It's dope.

really really cool yeah that looks dope and then these are these are like runes I think on it so these are like protection runes and I think it was handmade by a lady in Portugal which is I think it's really really cool what is a rune I don't I don't know what that is I have no idea either she said it's a rune okay I was hoping you would know I was hoping you would know so I didn't have to explain is that like an ancient symbol of some sort I guess so something like that yeah sick and then that's just my wedding ring nice well not just my wedding ring of course my wedding ring

I actually had a disaster with my wedding ring because when we first got married, I thought it'd be really cool to get a carbon fiber wedding ring. So I bought this carbon fiber wedding ring, which was like super light. It was really cool. And I woke up, I wore it for like six months and I woke up one morning and my finger was like blown up like that. Oh, frick. Yeah.

And carbon is fibers, isn't it? And I got a carbon splinter. So it like splintered into my finger and I had like an allergic reaction or whatever. And it like blew up to like a little balloon. So I got rid of that. And then I've just been for the last like two years, I've just been wearing a rubber, like one of those, it's actually a woman's band off Amazon because I like thin rings. So it was like a three millimeter, like $10 band off Amazon that I've been wearing. And then she got me this for our anniversary. Yeah.

How did you get the carbon fiber ring off of your finger? With difficulty. Did you have to get like pliers and cut it off? I had to wait for it to like go. I like, I like squeezed it out. Oh, frick. It was like, it was horrible. Did you have to like lube your finger up to like get it off your finger? Yeah.

I think I put like soap on it. Yeah. I think I like washed my hands and I put soap on it. And then I was like, I had to like squeeze down like the bubble. I'm like, it was gross. Abby's gotten rings stuck on her fingers before, especially when she was pregnant. Her fingers got all puffy. And then we did soap to get the ring off and you'd panic. You'd have like a panic attack. And we're going to have to lose the finger. Yeah, it's scary, isn't it? That's why I wear a rubber one. Cause I just, I don't want to have to get my finger chopped off. Like think about it.

That's not true. I wore a rubber one up until like three months ago. And honestly, I only, I'm like really active. Like I kind of, I'm always like doing stuff in my hands. So like I only really wear this probably like three or four hours a day. And the rest of the time I put the rubber one back on because like I don't want to scratch this or damage it or whatever. Yeah.

So honestly, I'm in the same boat as you, dude. And you guys had two weddings, right? We did. Kind of. Well, I mean, yes. Technically speaking. It sounds really cool. It wasn't anything. Yeah. So you know the show 90 Day Fiance? Yeah.

Yeah. When they landed in America and they got 90 days to get married. Aside from all the drama, that's actually a legit thing. So I came into the US on a K-1 visa. It took me like two and a half years to get this visa granted. So I applied in 2019 straight after we got engaged and it was granted like December of 2021. Flew over to the US January of 22, January 27th, 22. I told you I'm a babamouth.

And then I legally had 90 days to get married. So we had- It's so random. It is. It's so random. So we had like such a strict schedule, but it was, yeah, January when you came over. So we were like, what's like a fun date within the 90 days? And we'd love 2-2-2-2-2. Yeah, so 22nd of February, 2-2-2-2-2. So we got married at 2.22 PM. Not even, we didn't even plan it. That was coincidental. Yeah, that was actually- Yeah, we didn't even plan it. It was just whenever the weather cleared up because it was February in New York. It was horrible weather. Was it a requirement to wear a tutu to the wedding?

That would have been amazing. That was a good dad joke. That actually would have been amazing. We should have done that. You want to. Come on. A little. A little.

I'm too used to this. Yeah. The first wedding was literally, so his dad flew over, his grandparents were on FaceTime, your sisters were on FaceTime. And then it was just like my siblings and my parents. It was cold and wet and it was freezing, but it was like perfect. And like there's these people were like walking cause it was in like a, like a public area and there was like a group of golden retrievers. It was like a golden retriever walking group. So it was like 20 golden retrievers all walking together. And they stopped.

stopped and watched so like right after like we got married we like ran down and we're like getting kissed by all these golden retrievers it was like it was the perfect day like at least for me and it cost a dinner at hibachi place we took everyone out to celebrate and that was it

But then we had the real like grand wedding in July because I always wanted like the big dress. That was July 1st, 22. We had like the proper wedding and that was when all my friends and family flew over from UK and it was like the proper celebration but we were already married so we just did kind of like a vow renewal kind of thing and then just had a big party essentially. So what do you celebrate as your anniversary?

I think we do the February. February, really? Because that's when we legally got married. Wait a minute. Yeah, because it's only been like a year. It's been just over two years. Yeah, like two years and three months now. We're in the year 2024. I know how mad is that. No, genuinely. I was signing some sort of document. I forgot what it was the other day. And I put 2023 and I corrected it to 24. I'm like, where am I? I'm so scared. I'm so scared. I never know what year it is. I'm so scared.

um happy two year anniversary guys that's awesome that's awesome going back to the proposal quickly i just want to touch on this because this was the best part of the day it was i had never pulled a prank on monica in my entire life like we're not really prankers we try and do like we got a little bit into the prankies like on tiktok but like this was before we even had a tiktok i had never pranked her in my entire life but i proposed to her and uh she watched this video and basically at the end of the video i

jokingly proposed to her like three years before with a fake ring and on the wrong finger. She knew it. It was like a complete joke. We were doing a stupid video one day where he put a ring on my finger. It was like a travel video. We were trying to be travel vloggers at the time. Oh, gotcha. And so like we were in the Canary Islands which are like little Spanish islands and I was like, oh, it would look really cool if I put this $2 ring on your finger. Yeah.

And his finger turned green within 10 minutes. But yeah, so at the end, I was like, a few years ago, I jokingly asked you if you'd marry me, would your answer still be the same again after all these years and experiences and whatever? And then, so she closed the laptop. The laptop almost fell off a cliff, which was funny.

And then I was down on one knee when she turned around and I could not get her to say yes. Like she wanted to, but every single time I asked him, we filmed it. I've got the whole thing on our YouTube channel. Every single time I had to ask her like 15 times, like, is it a yes? And she was like, no, you're pranking me. You're pranking me. This is a prank. Like hyperventilation. In my head, I could not believe that that was happening to me. Cause I like, we,

dream about that forever so like i just like what like was convincing myself that it wasn't real so i was just like this isn't real this isn't really making me this is not happening and i just couldn't stop saying that so i probably said a hundred times but i did say yes so that's you did say yes eventually you got to it yes we did we got to it yeah that's sweet and then we had to face like her parents were the only people in the world that knew so i obviously asked for a father's blessing and then i picked up the ring with her mother and um

So they were the only people. Actually, your mom told a waitress at a restaurant because she couldn't hold her mouth. My mom had to tell somebody. So she was like, at a restaurant, she's like, I need to tell you, my daughter is getting engaged today. So the only people that knew were her parents and the waitress. She knows. Yeah. That's sweet. I kind of love that it was just the two of you because that's how we did it too. We were in Disney World, so there was other people. But they were all strangers on it. Wait, I saw when you guys recreated it. Yeah, they were all strangers.

So like, it was like we were just by ourselves. And it's kind of sweet. Like you have the wedding day to be with other people. And so it's kind of nice. I mean, I understand people want their family and friends around, but I don't know. I thought that was sweet. I liked like the privacy. Like it was just like our moment. Yeah, it was super nice. It was kind of less pressure. Right. Yeah. You know, like if everybody's family stood around,

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Here I am thinking everything's great. Like, everything was amazing. And then all of a sudden, I keep getting all these messages. Like, and I don't know if you experienced the same thing. But, like, I was getting tons of messages. Like, I cannot believe that you're, like, subjecting to this and taking his last name. Like, he should take yours. This is ridiculous. I was like... No, I never got that. I'm like, what is... Yeah. Yeah.

I don't know if anyone else has ever got that either. It was just us. I think just one person commented it and then everyone else was like, wait, that's a good point. Why is she taking his last name? And then, yeah, we got a ton. Like you're the first woman in the world who's taken her husband's last name. I'm like, I also really love his last name. And like him, his grandma is like my best friend. So I'm like, oh, I get to share like the last name with nanny. Like I was so excited. I love being a Patterson. Like I'm always going to be like Monica Gartner. Like that's my maiden name. Like just,

Just because I took his last name doesn't mean anything. But yeah, people were really mad. You don't know where it came from. I have no idea. I think, like I said, I think it was just one comment from someone that was whatever. And then I think it just spread like wildfire. And then suddenly we were getting like death threats and everything. There was like a ton of like news articles about it. I'm like, why is this a thing?

thing is this news articles written about you changing your last name I think it was like Daily Mail wrote like a whole thing like wife like gets backlash from taking last name I'm like isn't that like a thing that people do like I wanted to take his last name yeah well we didn't start social media until after we were married so I didn't have that it was so weird

I don't understand it. I don't know. That is very odd. I think people just try to find something to hate on. I mean, that is the culture in the US. Yeah. So I understand that. Is that not the culture in the UK? It is. Everybody in the UK does that, yeah. I mean, as far as I know. Interesting. Yeah, that was...

I'm sorry. Legit. We were laughing about it. We were just like, if that really makes you guys that mad, like you have more problems that you need to deal with. Like I'm fine. I love my new laugh. I don't know. That's so interesting. I mean, I feel like everybody online, I mean,

with this job comes hate comments doesn't it yeah i know you guys have been subjected to a lot of that and i'm really sorry you guys have because you're the sweetest people ever oh thank you i think i'm really glad that you know the one time is really like blown up for us was over something so trivial so silly yeah and i'm sure 95 of people read the article and were like

why is this a story yeah you can brush that off pretty easily yeah hopefully yeah did you were you guys able to brush that off or did it get yeah that one we were able to really brush off there's some comments we get that like it's hard to deal with the main stuff a lot of people think i'm gay oh really dude i've gotten those too i'm not gonna see you guys complimenting each other maybe i should stop playing into it i like complimenting you all the time but

Well, you're just so attractive. I can't help myself. Oh, my God. Here we go. The comments are coming in. No, seriously. Dude. So, I think what it is is I think like at least for me when I started a relationship with Abby, I just like it brought up my soft side and then becoming a dad brought out even more of a soft side. It doesn't make you any less of a man though. Yeah, but when people... And it doesn't change your sexuality just because you're in touch with your emotional side. Yeah, because you're pink. Exactly, your authentic self. Yeah. But I think what it is is like...

not only did that bring out a soft side in me, but then just with the content that we have online, it revolves around our relationship and it revolves around like me being a father. So when people are only seeing that side of me, the soft side of Matt, then they're like, oh, that dude's gay. Is that more of an American thing though, where it's like men have to be like... No, that's a big thing in the UK. Really? I feel like it might be even...

more in the uk really i don't know you think like toxic masculinity is more of a thing in the uk than in the us probably i don't know i've never thought about it but yeah i i think i think maybe it is like we just had a really really bad experience in england like to the point where i'm like oh my goodness i was so shocked that it even happened it made me like i have never yelled at anybody in my entire life like i'm i'm quiet i'm like introverted i'm

I fully yelled at somebody on like the train because we got on a train. You gotta say the whole story. We're going down the steps. There's like a cute little old lady like by herself. There's always big dudes walking around. She had her suitcase and she's like struggling to pick it up and like obviously Sam sees so he picked up her suitcase and I'm like thinking in my head like how did not a single

like man this lady was probably hold her early 80s going down a flight like 30 stairs and i watched like we were right at the top of the stairs and she was like halfway down and i watched like six or seven big guys just walk past her and completely ignore her so i had to run down the stairs but we got on the train and she's like near the door and this like guy in his 70s i would say comes on two beers like one beer in each hand this was 2 p.m and like immediately it's like in her face so i was like

Two o'clock in the afternoon. Yeah, two o'clock in the afternoon. That was a football match, a soccer match. And he's like talking to her and I'm like, what a creepy husband. Like he's like so close to her face. Yeah, she was like, oh, don't spill those on me. Don't spill the beers on me. And then like, I noticed he's literally trying to kiss her on the lips and her face is like going like this and there's a ton of men around her and I'm like, this is weird. So as soon as like I saw her face, Sam was like,

I'm sorry, is that your husband? And she was like, no. And she like comes cowering behind me, this like little old lady. That's so... So Sam's like yelling at this guy. I kind of feel bad because like he was an elderly guy, but like... But no, you should not be yelling. There's no age on being a creep. No other man spoke up for this lady. I could not believe it. So I was full on like, I've never like full on cursed someone out like that before, but I was going crazy at this guy. Because like he was literally trying to sexually assault this old lady. And no one around did anything.

anything I was like in like at least where we live in Florida people immediately would be on that and be like get away from this lady like he'd probably be beat up as he probably should have been because it was disgusting like what he was trying to do and then his son comes over and tries starting beef like with Sam yeah his son his son like his son came over and like tried like squaring up to me so I had to like shoulder barge him out of the way and he was he was like do you have a problem with my dad I was like yeah actually your dad is a massive creep trying to kiss an elderly lady that he doesn't know and he goes he wasn't trying to do it in a creepy way yeah

So that's when I started popping off. I'm like, how can you kiss a stranger in a non-creepy way? Like he owes her an apology. Like this lady was literally cowering behind Monica. Monica was like rubbing her back. It was so sad. And then, and then he was like, yo, me and you are cool. But like F her. And like everyone on the train, no, no one said anything. No one offered your seat to this old lady. Like I was like,

At least here. I think it's better here. Like, people, like, take better care. I don't know. That's so... It was crazy. What if she was a widow? I know. Yeah. Oh, my gosh. I think we got unlucky because it was a crew versus Wrexham FC football match. And they're heavy rivals. And, like, everyone was a bit rowdy and, you know, riled up, whatever. And... But still, like, I just...

As soon as we were on the train, we literally cut a trip short while on the train. I rebooked our flights while we're on the train. I was like, I just got to get home. Like I miss my dog. I miss the sunshine. That's horrible, you guys. Thank goodness you guys were there. It was horrible. Yeah, thank goodness. I feel like with situations like that,

I don't know from my experience, even in the U S if you go to say Nashville, people are so kind. There's the Southern hospitality. People are just like so good. Even one time we got stranded in North Carolina and Charlotte and then just everyone in Charlotte was so nice. Um,

But then, yeah, you go to places like, I don't know, maybe you're on the subway in New York and you might see some sketchy stuff. And I feel like that might have been, you know, I don't know. That's just my guess. Maybe it was the crowd you're with too because of that football match. That was just a drunk grandpa trying to kiss an old lady. That's so sad. Yeah. That's so sad. How do we get onto that conversation? I don't know. Something about toxic masculinity, if it's possible.

Oh, yeah. Words here or there. We're talking about how people think we're gay. I think it's more prevalent in the UK. So does that get to you though? People thinking that you're gay? It did at first. But now I'm just like, I'm happily married to my wife. I know I'm not gay. Why are people trying to insult me about that?

Because I don't know about you, you said you did choir. So I did theater. So people would call me gay for doing theater. And then that used to get to me when I was a kid because I was like, like, because I didn't really fit in a box. Right. Like I loved to skateboard. I played basketball. Then I also did like tap dance and ballet and I sang. So it was like I wasn't. I was exactly the same. Like I was a choir boy, but then I did mountain boarding and I played football and, you know, all that kind of stuff as well. So like. Yeah.

So you guys have done some like pranks teasing each other online. Has there ever been an instance where it's crossed the line for you guys in your relationship? We're like, okay, this is too far. It's too much. No, I don't think so. I don't think so. I want to know the backstory. We never get like bad with our pranks. Like I see some couples that are like, they're doing stuff like potentially relationship ending stuff. I want to know the backstory behind the OnlyFans prank.

Oh my gosh. She got me so good with that. You know what's actually funny, Taimi? Because...

they've reached out to us three times to join the platform yeah so that's why that's why i believed it so much because we literally got an email the day but i guess that's how you came up with the video idea but they emailed us the day before and they're like we want you guys to join the platform like you've had a bunch of requests or whatever so weird and um so then so then the next day and monica was like you know after they reached out monica was like hey karina coughs earning like a million bucks not that i would ever do it i never once for a second even thought about doing it that

Not that we've got anything against people that do do it. Like make that money. I don't think. You see how much like some people are making on it and you're like,

We would never actually do it. But yeah, so I, we got like, I think it was our third email from them that we got. And I was like, oh, I'm going to just pretend that I'm joining it. Because we get a lot of like creepy people on our, I'm sure you do too. A lot of creepers in the DMs. Like, foot pics. Can you send this? Like, use socks. Like, really weird stuff. So yeah, I just decided to see what he would do. And you were. And you fully believed it. You weren't happy. You thought she was. Okay, guys, if Matt came in the room and I was like, I'm doing this.

I'm doing OnlyFans. There's 0% chance that you would believe me. Yeah, I would not believe you for a second. I think it was just the timing was good from the emails. So like them reaching out and then me being like, oh my gosh, these people are making so much money. And then I think maybe you for a split second were like, oh, maybe she is thinking about it, which I never ever would. And then I don't know if you did this as part of the plan to try and

make me believe it more but in the morning before it because I think I went out didn't I and you and I came back and you'd like set everything up but I think in the morning you were on the phone to your sister talking about oh

OnlyFans and stuff as well. And I don't know if you did that to set that up. I don't know. I think I was probably just telling her about the email or something. Oh, okay. That's funny. So it's just good timing. Good timing. Very convenient timing. Well, I mean, they actually reached out to us once too. But I thought it was just because they were trying to be more like Patreon. It was when they were trying to be more... Remember the time that OnlyFans was trying to not be like a saucy platform for like a day? Yes. They were like, we're buying everything for like a week.

Yeah. Because I don't think it started as a saucy platform. I think it started as more of a Patreon. But the format was set up to make that like a perfect environment. Exactly. And so I think, yeah, I don't know. I mean, I'm sure there are people on OnlyFans that just, who knows? Maybe they just post regular videos and there's nothing crazy. But I feel like 99% is probably. Because of the stigma attached to that platform now, I think if people want to do like a subscription thing.

They would do Patreon instead. She's obsessed with Paul Wesley's private Instagram stories. Stuff like that. You know Paul Wesley from The Vampire Diaries? He played Stefan Stalvator in The Vampire Diaries. See, the thing about... I'm not really a fangirl type person. I'm like next level. It's bad.

I like that though. You know what you like? You know what's true? And his grandma is a fangirl. Oh my gosh. She loves like Billy Joel and Elvis. She's literally Monica but 60 years older. We're literally twins. We watched the Elvis movie together. I love that movie. When like Austin Butler's like the young Elvis, like I was like all excited. And then as he got older in the movie, then his grandma was like, oh, here

Like I'm excited now. So it was like so funny that we're both fangirls of like the different. I love that relationship with his grandma. That's the best. I love her so much. I swear. Like, I think she was like my daughter in a past life. It's weird. Like, I don't even know how to like describe it. Like, I know, like I knew his grandma. I don't know. It's like so hard to say out loud. Like I sound crazy. She's the best. Do you guys believe in stuff like that?

Kind of like what's, oh. Like soulmates? No, like past lives. Or like what's your thought? Oh, past lives. That's the only time I have thought about it. Was that? Is that getting into two?

for this. I mean, I, yeah, I don't, I don't know. Matt's extremely literal. I'm pretty literal. So like, don't even start this conversation with him because it's just going to fall flat. No, I'm the same. I'm a big realist. Yeah. I truly, truly want to believe that there is something. Like, I really don't want to think that you just, there's nothing. And, you know, I grew up Church of England Christian. Like, that was my, I've kind of, I haven't drifted away from it, but I think, you know, everyone's,

Catholicism? Is that Catholicism? It's like very slightly different to Church of England Christian, isn't it? So I've kind of like drifted away from the church while I've been living in America. Yeah. But I really don't know. I would love to believe in reincarnation or I'd love to believe in whatever. I just think it's such a cool thought. I think it is. I think like death is like a really scary thing. And then I think like... That's my biggest fear. Dealing with loss is so hard, especially depending on the relationship. So I think like...

some sort of hope in those horrible, horrible times in life because everyone goes through horrible things. Yeah. Like there's no escaping that. Everyone's going to die as sad as that is. And so I think... That says this to me every day in my life. Sorry. He presented me with a thought of death

I fully believe that there's like a heaven. Like I have had like dreams about it and I'm like, I don't know if that's my mind making it up or like, like when my grandma passed away the next, well, the night that she passed away, she was in my dream and like she was describing heaven to me. So I don't know if my mind was like making it up or if it was like, that really was, I felt like it was really like her and the same thing happened with Sam's mom. Yeah, do we have like 10 minutes to get in?

to that okay yeah wait hold up what about your mom like what so my my mom passed away very suddenly from cancer in december of 21 and um yeah this was all it was it was it was crazy she she went into hospital thinking she had gallstones on the 1st of december we were told it was cancer on the 6th the 8th i think we were told it was terminal she had a few months and she died on the 13th

which was insane. And it's like, that's so traumatic. It's one of those things that it's like, until it happens to you, you don't even think about it. You know, like you hear the people passing away from cancer young or passing away from heart disease or whatever it is young. And you always think like, I'm going to be that person that it never happens to until it does happen to you. And it's terrifying. And obviously it was the worst experience of our entire lives. That breaks my heart.

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I'm dumb. So the night she died, my bedroom at my parents' house was like a converted living room kind of thing. So it was like really long and thin. There was a fireplace in the middle of my bed right at the far end. And it wasn't like a typical, it wasn't a typical bedroom. So we had like double French doors with like sheer curtains over them. So like you could kind of like, it was like translucent so you could kind of see through. Sounds like a really nice bedroom. It was an awesome bedroom to have. I think my sister was pretty jealous. As soon as my sister went to university, that was my parents, my baby sister and myself in the house. And I was like, you know what?

I'm giving up my bedroom upstairs. I'm going to take this spare, you know, this kind of study thing. But yeah, anyway, blabbering aside, the night my mum passed away, so my mum passed away at like eight in the morning. And that night, you tell it a lot better actually. Do you want to say? Because you were the one that thought you had the dream about it. So,

I had a dream like my biggest thing was like I never got to give his mom like grandkids so like that's gonna like haunt me forever and that night like I guess because I was thinking about that so much like in my dream which again it's like the same kind of thing happened with my grandma I was with his mom I was in a hospital bed and she was right next to me and she was like I'm always going to be here with you so like I feel like that really was his like mom like coming to me in a dream I know that sounds like psychotic oh my god you're crying you're gonna make me

gosh so and also this is probably gonna make you laugh John Krasinski was also there I don't know why I don't know why just a small time this is legit he happened to be in the hospital while he was there but yeah John Krasinski and Sam's mom in the same room but it wasn't even John it was literally him as Jim from the office like I don't know why oh sorry it wasn't even John it was Jim that will help you but yeah so he was also there helping me through it okay maybe hide that detail when you share the story am I having a baby with

What's happening? He was also there. Okay. So his mom was there. And then I wake up and I'm in Sam's bedroom. And I look over. This sounds so scary. You're probably going to get chills with this. I look over at Sam and he was sat up in the bed. This is at like, what? Four in the morning or something. And I can see him looking at his bedroom door. And I'm like, this is such a weird dream that I'm having. And I said, what are you looking at? And he's like, my mom is at the door. So I looked at the door and like,

It gives me like chills even thinking about it. I could literally see his mom like out like behind the curtain. The outline of his mom. She was wearing a white robe. Her hair was down. She always had her hair up but her hair was down. And you remember this too. Yeah. So that was like my dream was that. And then

I don't remember how I fell asleep. Like that was it. Like, I just remember saying like, oh my gosh, there she is. I wake up in the morning and I'm like, Sam, I got to tell you what happened. So like I told him at the hospital thing. And then I said, I looked at you. Like then I'm in the bed. I looked at you. You're sitting up. And he's like, was I looking at my mom? And I was like, yeah. And then I was like, was she wearing her white robe with her hair down?

Was real? Because I thought I was dreaming as well. I thought it was like that part of the dream. But I was actually sitting up in real life. But he like, in the morning was like, I dreamed that like, I saw my mom like at the door in her robe. I was like, was her hair down? Like we described the exact same thing. So I'm like, that really made me like know that there was something after. But then the second time was even crazier. Yeah.

We were in, so this was, I had my visa interview, my K1 visa interview on the 15th of December. So two days after my mom passed away. And there was a question about my parents in the interview. So that I like broke down. I was like, I'm so sorry. My mom just passed away. So I forgot to change my application to deceased.

east so like i was obviously thinking about her non-stop got out of the interview and i passed which was awesome so we went straight to selfridges which is kind of like a macy's in the uk i've heard of it and yeah it's uh yeah it's pretty cool and uh so we're wandering around there

And we met this girl that watches our content. And generally, obviously you guys know this when you guys probably experience it all the time. When you see people that watch your content, they'll say, I love your content. You know, have a short conversation. You have like a really quick conversation about social media, whatever it is. It doesn't really go below surface level, does it? Like it's kind of just like a thank you so much for watching our stuff, blah, blah, blah.

this girl she watched our content and she said oh you're sam and monica and she goes do you believe in aliens i really want to live off grid i and starts going into these crazy crazy deep like conspiracy theories and things that she was and the only other person i would ever talk about stuff like that was my mom like she was like every conversation that his mom would talk about like she always talked about i want to live off grid grow my own vegetables and like all these like random things that she would talk about and this girl just immediately before she even said like i love watching your video she's like oh my

gosh, Simon Monica, I watch your stuff. Do you believe in aliens, by the way? And then like his mom always talks about aliens and like all these spiritual stuff. Like every conversation that she brought up to us, I literally like started tearing up because I'm like, I feel like I'm talking to your mom. It was so weird. It was so weird.

And then it gets even crazy because I hadn't mentioned anything about my mom even having cancer on social media. Like no one knew anything. And I hadn't mentioned my mom during this conversation. This girl, after like 20 minutes of talking to me, turns to me completely random. She goes, I can really feel your mom's energy around you, Sam. I was like, what? And she said, yeah, I just really need to give you a big hug right now. And she gave me the biggest hug I've ever had in my entire life. I was like, I was free. I was shaking because I hadn't mentioned anything about my mom.

It was the weirdest thing. So after that, we got done with it. So we kind of said our goodbyes, all that kind of stuff. After that, I was like, I can't do any more shopping. I've got to go lie down. So we went back to the hotel and my mom was an amazing cook. Like she would cook incredible food every night. And I was like a proper mommy's boy. So like every time she was cooking, we'd be in the kitchen singing and dancing together and stuff like that. And we had this song together. It came out in 2006. It's called Never Be Lonely.

And like I said, came out in 2006. I hadn't, this was 2021. I hadn't heard this song in 10 years. And as we walk into the hotel, playing on the radio is never be lonely. Like the chorus of the song. So I went up to the front desk. I was like, what is this? Like, is this? And he was like, oh, it's just general radio station kind of thing. I was like, that is so, cause that was like our song. It was like, it was so weird. Go upstairs, check into our room. Just been cleaned, brand new room. Obviously not brand new, but like it just been cleaned.

And we were lying in bed. I was reading through some conversations with my mom, like, you know, of her last days, like telling each other we loved each other and stuff like really in my fields. And Monica was on FaceTime to her sister, Jacqueline, and she was telling her all about these crazy experiences we just had.

And then she jumps out of bed, freaks out. And her sister's like, what is happening? Cause like I got up really quick. Cause like I felt something like just brush my head. She felt like someone stroked her head. Yeah. Like a nice light little pat on the top of my head. I jumped out of bed. He's like freaking out. Like what just happened? And here I am thinking like, I'm going insane. Like, I feel like I'm going crazy.

but we have a picture we'll show you guys after we got a picture there's a handprint on the headboard right behind where my head was you could see like a handprint and i was like and it was gone 10 minutes later wood maybe that's like engraved like in the wood or something it was gone like 10 minutes later the morning gone we weren't doing nothing freaky where my hands are on the bed or nothing like it was like i don't know how a handprint got like right above my head like it was it was insane but we took a picture because we're like no one would ever believe this wow like how

So you hadn't talked about your mom at all on social media when that girl came up? What about like, and nobody knew that she had cancer. Nobody knew anything at all. No, we've been completely private. I mean, it happened so fast and we've been so private about the entire thing. I posted, I think like that evening about it after it happened.

Yeah, that was... Yeah, that was... It was mad. That's crazy. That's why I'm like, there's definitely something after. Yeah, so very, very long roundabout story short. That's why I fully believe like there's something... There's something after. That's super hard because that was December of 21. You got married just a few months later. February 22, yeah. And we actually had a wedding planned for June of 21. But we had a really...

bad situation with our wedding venue we paid for we paid the deposit for it was 150 guests 130 yes or something and then it was in new york it was on long island and um that was obviously during the height of covet so the government in new york passed whatever it is legislation whatever it's called

to say that only 50 people maximum could be at a wedding. So we spoke to our wedding manager and we said, well, can we just put like the rest of, you know, the deposit for the 130 people or whatever it was towards the rest of, you know, so we have 50 people and the wedding manager were like, no, what we're going to do is because you've signed a contract for 130 or 150 people, you can have 50 people at the wedding, but you've got to pay for 150 and we'll give you a hundred spare meals. I was like, you are kidding me.

We're not going to get through that. That's ridiculous. It's horrible, isn't it? Yeah, so we had to postpone the wedding. So we postponed the wedding and sadly my mom didn't get to see us get married. But she got to see the dress. And she saw the wedding ring. She got to see the wedding ring. So, yeah. That's really sad. We were actually, it's actually, not to get too deep, but we were actually in the jeweler picking out Monica's wedding ring when my dad called me to tell me that it had been diagnosed as cancer, which was crazy. So obviously we didn't buy it that day. We left and went to the hospital straight away. That's horrible. Yeah.

I'm so sorry. Yeah, I'm so sorry. How have you been doing? Oh, man. I don't want to say it's getting easier because it's definitely not easier. Like, I think about it all day, every day still. But I'm learning to live with it a lot easier now, a lot more now. I don't know. I think when she first passed away, my dad and my two sisters... What, sorry? Oh, I'm sorry. I want to be there for my boys. You will be. I'm going to start...

Don't do this to me. It's happening. It's happening. I'm so sorry. When my mom first passed away, like my mom and dad were together like 35 years. And it was such a shock to my dad that he just completely went within himself and couldn't do anything. So in a way, it kind of made it easier for me that I had to switch my mindset when she passed away. And I had to be the one to, you know, like we planned the funeral and we called my mom's brothers and, you know, had to call around all the friends and family and,

you know, pick up her stuff from the hospital and all that kind of like get everything sorted, you know, all the logistics of it. And I think that kind of helped that I had to like, I was kind of forced into like switching my mindset. And then I think I just kind of numbed it for a while, but it got, like I said, it didn't get easier, but I'm learning to live with it a lot more. He really like, you stepped up like crazy. Like he,

had such a like brave face on and was able to like do all these things that like I would never be like I would just like shut down completely we were like so amazing like and that just made me be like you're literally the strongest man I've ever met in my entire life like it was incredible I don't know how you did it but he's

The best. I'm going to cry again. That's really sweet. Thank you. Anyway, switching up. Oh, I got a tattoo of my mom, by the way. That's cool. I was going to ask that. Yeah. So after my mom passed away, you know how every mom's got a calendar in their kitchen? I think it's just like a mother thing, isn't it? And, uh,

not to get bloody sad again, my grandma passed away like two months before my mom. So my mom had wrote mom's birthday in the calendar for my grandma, meaning like my grandma's birthday. So we had her handwriting saying mom in the calendar and Monica found it and took a picture of it. And yeah, I got it. I got it tattooed. So that's her handwriting. That's really sweet. And it's kind of a double meaning because it's,

kind of for my grandma as well considering my mom wrote that word for my grandma meaning for her birthday so that's beautiful your mom has really good handwriting she does doesn't she it looks so eloquent thank you I think the tattoo artist did an amazing like he got it perfect so

Yeah, I got very lucky with finding, well, you got very lucky. And the tattoo on your finger, what is that one? Oh, man, you don't want to ask about that one. Wait, why not? That's switching gears dramatically. It was free. It was free. We were like, ooh. It was free. So like, that's going to

When we first started dating, I think I was 19. We were in New York and there was this tattoo parlor down the road that were doing free tattoos, but it was done by apprentices to build up their experience. But it was free and we just had to tip. And it had to be smaller than an inch square.

So I called my parents and I was in like a silly little rebellious phase at the time. And yeah, so I called my parents and I said, I want to get a tattoo. And my dad said, well, if you want to get a tattoo, don't get it anywhere visible. Don't get it on your face. Don't get it on your neck. Don't get it on your hands, on your arms, anything like that, because you won't be able to get a good job. And I was going through a rebellious phase. I was like, screw you, dad. I don't want a job. I want to work for myself.

And so this is a Viking symbol that means create your own reality. And I got it on my hand because it was my way of telling my dad. Now I want to get that on my neck. Wait, so did you get yours at that same place? Yeah, mine's also free. It looks cool from afar, but...

but it's terrible i had to have it redone you guys can feel it in a minute i don't know why we did that over and everything is terrible i would never get it i can't regret that but it's a memory you know bad memory it's so bad what are your thoughts on the neck tattoos i think when people have that like line from their ear on the neck and beaver have something like yeah i think it looks so i think it's cool but i think it's got to be on a specific type of person like i don't think it would suit me

but I think it suits Justin Bieber. You're a pretty boy. You can't. We have our matching lip tattoos. Wait, what? What does it say? Does it say dude? Oh my gosh, that's so cool. When did you get that? We got that. I can't regret it because I never see it. I forget about it, but that is so cool. But yeah, we did that back in, uh,

Kinda. Not really. It was 2020 when we got those matching lip tattoos. So sweet, honey. Why did you get dude? Was that like a thing between you two? Literally, there's not a good reason. It was kind of our thing for a while because I call Abby dude. You don't call me dude anymore. I don't really do that as much. Actually, I remember that on your social media. Yeah. Didn't you say like, hey dudes? Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. That was years ago. Yeah. It's.

That's so cool. But that's a memory that you guys are always going to have. It's going to not last. It's still there. You're like, it's still there? Is it there? I don't look at it ever. Yeah, it's still there. How many times do you flip your lip down? I forget about this, but then I go to the dentist and I'm like, I forget to tell them. Every time I forget to tell them, they're like, just, and I'm like, let's not.

Hey, real quick, this won't take long. I just wanted to thank you guys for being here. Like the fact that you're here right now, listening to this episode means the world to us. We've put in a ton of work on this podcast and we honestly did not expect for this to happen. We've gotten to sit down with some incredible guests

You guys recently consulted a psychic.

about like how like kids and when you're gonna but no here's the thing we don't know if we believe that lady it was like a random like it was a phone number that we saw it was like yeah we're like this would be kind of fun for a video you know what we we went to a psychic in new york it was actually it was just after my mom passed away so i wanted to like talk about my mom and i thought it'd like help me heal and stuff like that and she said that you shouldn't really talk about people before like six months after they pass away or something so we didn't actually end up really talking about my mom

But she's made like a bunch of predictions for our life and stuff. This was before we moved to New York. This was... To Florida. Sorry, Florida. We were in New York before we moved to Florida. This was like probably March or April of 22. Yeah. And...

I remember the psychic said, "You're gonna find a place, it's gonna be hot weather, you're gonna be by the water and you're gonna stay there for the rest of your life." - And here I am, never thinking I'm leaving New York. So I was like, "Oh." - And we had no plans to move at that time. We were like, "No, we're not gonna." And she was like, "Yeah, you're moving in the next few months." And we moved in May to St. Augustine, Florida and we love it and we're never leaving. - That lady was like a real psychic. Everything that woman said actually

- You think she was legit? - That was legit. - Was there anything though that she said that was like, eh, that didn't happen, that wasn't true? - No. - Did they let you record? Like when you go in, can you record? - I recorded a voice note on my phone. - But the one for the video, that was just a random lady. - I'm so sorry to just backtrack really quickly.

She got the creepiest thing was with your grandpa. Your grandpa, her grandpa, firstly, she guessed his name. Yeah. She guessed her grandpa's name and she said, it begins with R and she was like, it's not Rob, it's Rich. Which was his name. Which was his name. Rich.

And we reached out to this woman through a fake email address. Like she made like a temporary fake email address. Yeah, I didn't get my name. I didn't get my phone number. Like nothing where she could like look up my stuff beforehand. It was like a random throwaway email. And then she said, I'm getting, what did she say? I'm getting something with L and three.

Oh yeah. So my grandpa, so I have three siblings. So he used to call us like number one, number two, number three, number four. So I was number four. Cause she's the youngest. My sister Liz is number three. And the woman was like, I'm getting something with your grandpa, like number three and the letter L. Like, does that mean anything to you? And I was like, like that, it's not anything that was ever shared on the

line or anything. And Monica was kind of like quiet about it and she said yeah like I feel like it relates to a person and this person's going through some life changing stuff and then Monica was like she was like okay I give it up like yeah L is Liz three was her number from my grandpa and this was just after she talked about her grandpa. She described like what was in my grandma's room when she passed away like that one was a legit psychic. It's

Yeah, her grandma was in a Catholic nursing home run by nuns. And it was kind of, it was a thing that they did after her grandma passed away. All the nuns stood around her bed and like prayed and chanted and stuff like that or whatever it's called. But there was like 30 of them in the room. And that's a very rare thing. Like how often do you get a bunch of nuns around your bedside when you pass away chanting and praying and stuff like that? But she knew like the wording in the room. Like she was describing the decor. Like it was crazy. It was wild.

But the one for the video was a random ad we saw for like, let's, it would be kind of funny. I don't know how accurate that woman was because you pay by the minute. It was like $3 a minute. So we were like, let's do this.

But she was like dragging everything out. Do you remember? It was so bad. I don't even remember what she said. I think she said we were having, did she say two kids? I can't remember. I want four kids. So like, I hope she's not right. I think she's not right. I think she's wrong. I think it's going to be at least three. Well, this is always what we've kind of...

debate it over isn't it this is like the ongoing debate is i growing up i was what i always wanted one kid that's such a lie guys i want two it's not in the beginning he always said he wanted two kids i wanted four i said i said growing up i wanted one now i've switched i want two you're such a liar you're only starting at one so you pretend you went up i'm going down to three you got to go up like you're pretending you started at one you started at two you can't have one you gotta have at least two they gotta have money so i want to need to have another

have another okay if you guys hang out to see when griffin and augie back if you get to see them chase each other in the kitchen it will melt your heart like it's here yeah oh my gosh it's so much fun so wait like this year you're

- We think, the psychic said within the next 12 months. - We actually haven't said anything on social media about this, I guess 'cause it's kind of like, it's not taboo, but like she stopped birth control like a month ago. - Oh. - So we're kind of playing Russian roulette. - Let's kind of- - My mom was really fertile. She's like, I'm excited. - We're not actively trying, but if it happens, then it happens. - I would not be surprised if you're pregnant right now. That happened to us. - Can you imagine? - That happened to us. - Can you imagine? - Abby pulled the goalie and boom, like it right away, right away.

I really hope... One of our, like, closest friends just found out they're pregnant. So we're like... No way. Our babies could grow up together. Oh, it's the funniest thing. Come on. Because she... She lives... So, yeah, one of her best friends, she...

She doesn't have any family in town or anything. And we've got a couple of Airbnbs that we rent out and stuff. So we were across town doing some renovations on an Airbnb. And she called Monica, Monica's friend, and said, you need to get here right now. And Monica was like, no, I'm busy. Like, do you want to come here or something? And she sent a picture of this pregnancy test that had like a very, very thick,

Yeah, you couldn't tell in the picture that it said pregnant. And I'm like, oh, she's pranking me. Like, what's going on? And so Monica was like, you're pranking me. Like, this is definitely a prank. So we drove her to her house anyway. And turns out she was pregnant. So I'm like, this would be perfect timing. Yeah. And you have young kids. So now they want to be pregnant together. They can hang out.

Oh my gosh, it was so funny because when she told her husband, it was in our house that she told her husband. And for some reason, she wanted us to be there, which was awesome. Like it was awesome thing to be part of. And her husband goes up, like gets up the stairs, gets into the kitchen. And she says that she's got this box of t-shirts for him. So he opens the box and obviously there's the pregnancy, you know, the test, the clear blue test in there. And for some, this dude has never done a British accent in his entire life. He turns around, he goes,

We're having a baby. He was going into shock. Shock was just turning British. He's going to have a baby. He just turned British. So yeah, maybe when pregnant. You never know. Maybe. That'd be funsy. Monica. Are you one of those people that tests a lot? Yeah. Even when I was on birth control, I was like, I'm like, yeah, I just get really like, I don't know. I'm just convinced. Like if my stomach hurts, I'm like, oh my God, I'm pregnant.

she'll literally eat your polly and she'll be like I'm pregnant I'm like sweetheart you don't show for like six weeks and the comments don't help too like if I'm wearing like if I just ate and I'm wearing a dress they're like wow like congratulations like it's never like are you pregnant it's like congrats I'm like wow you're that sure of yourself I feel so good about myself right now did you guys ever have any pregnancy scares while you were dating because you mentioned that your mom was really fertile so I didn't know my mom literally as soon as I said because my mom is like

for the past like probably what five years she's like have a baby i'm the youngest though i'm the youngest kid in the family monica's mom and my grandma have teamed up to guilt trippers so every time i see my grandma now she literally would be so cute she's in great health but she literally turns to me she's she's like i'm getting older all my friends have great grandchildren i'm not gonna be here much longer time i'm like oh my gosh nanny chill already you're fine

But I think that you've gotten to the point now where you're ready because like in the beginning you he didn't even know how to hold a baby. Sam would be like terrified of babies but now like the other day we were at a restaurant and I could see Sam like looking at someone and I'm like if I look and there's like a woman over there because like he was looking with like loving eyes and I'm like who's sat over there? You know she's like a little

Also, that has never happened. I've never looked lovingly at a woman in a restaurant. I'm like, is he looking at like, well, who is he looking at like that? But it was just like a cute little baby. So I'm like, the baby fever is hitting. It's happening. It's time. Get ready, guys. It's funny, dude. When you become a dad, you just start noticing kids so much more. Like I never before becoming a dad, I'd be like, oh my gosh,

baby do you see those cute kids that's my existence of my entire life every time I would just I could feel like I walk in a room I'd be like there's a baby in here somewhere yeah that's me that's literally me oh yeah you're like drawn to the baby yeah like I'm just like oh my gosh where's it at give me all the babies I want to hold all the babies like I'm so excited to be a mom she's got the weirdest thing where she smells them and says they smell good no like the baby smell it's amazing it's a thing wait it's actually a thing I thought it was a moniker thing he thought it was crazy thank you I told you that's a real thing especially when they're fresh what

Not fresh out of the cooch. She said, no. Yeah, no. I don't want to smell that. Is this a social media thing or a Monica thing? When someone has a newborn baby, Monica says they're not quite defrosted yet. No, no. Like when they post a picture, the baby just came out. They're still wrinkly. The baby de-thawed for like two minutes. De-thawed. Oh my gosh. Is that a Monica thing? But the thing about it is that the parents can't see it. So that was us. Oh, so beautiful. I bet.

And then like we look back now, we have the fog is lifted and it's like, okay, I'm glad that he changed from when he first arrived. Newborns look like aliens. But when it's your kid, you're like, they're the most beautiful person. Why do I feel? Yeah. Okay. We can talk about this later. Yeah. How many kids do you guys want? Do you want to have more? Yeah. I think. Yeah. We're like, we're. Yeah. Nothing is more attractive than when you say you want more babies.

stop i want more baby wait how have you guys how have you guys kept all this at bay because she's been wanting to have kids for a while yeah matt's like trying to take notes because he couldn't hold me back what's up what's up a method have you have you guys just been freaking like risking risking it or like i don't know yeah i mean before that you know we were using protection but um

I'm very logical about things. I think with my mind and Monica thinks with her heart. And so Monica was like, as soon as she has an ounce of baby fever, she's like, I need a baby. Like, it doesn't matter about my natural position or living position. That's how we are with this. Abby wants to buy a new house and we've been here for two years. We talked about, that was the last podcast. You guys have such a gorgeous house. Thank you so much. I love this house. Thank you. Do you? Well, I love your house.

If you guys need that, I'll be there. Thank you. I love our house, too. I think it's beautiful. We're actually planning on squatting here for just like a couple of months. Bro, hey. The door's open. Send it. Send it, yeah. But yeah, no, so talking about houses, we are just about to start building a house for ourselves because we've been living in an apartment since we moved to Florida. For years. So just over two years ago. No way. Yeah. And we've got Airbnbs and we're building a property portfolio slowly for some passive income and wants because...

I'm worried about, you know, social media hasn't been around for long and like, it's amazing. Like it's our dream career right now, but you never know how long it's going to last. So we want to be set up for the future and kind of figure it out from there. But, um, we never thought about needing more space for ourselves until we started seriously having a baby chat. So our dog, our dog is like our life. That's like, that's my baby right now. Sonny's like my absolute world. So I'm like, I just want to have a backyard.

Yeah. Like that's my main thing right now. So yeah, we bought some land in January and we spent from January to kind of mid to late April designing plans with an architect. So we've kind of designed our house now and that's all finished. We'll show you guys after. Oh, dude. And we're just about to go to permitting and stuff like that. And then we'll start building hopefully in the next like,

four months wow but the psychic did say back to the psychic that i was gonna find out i'm pregnant while i'm building something and this was before we even talked about building a house so i'm like maybe i don't know i was at the gym today i was listening to your youtube video about asking my wife juicy questions you got kind of juicy that we try sometimes you get a little yeah we maybe push it a little bit too far also i was gonna text you this morning saying asking if you want to work out and i was like actually you probably don't want to work out in this tiny little hotel gym i was like

Dude, I should have had you at my gym today. Dang it. You're good, man. You're good. Next time we visit. Yeah, yeah. We'll be workout buddies.

What was I going to say? Yeah. No, like we've tried to find some fun locations. I think it's the locations that are. Oh, you guys are location people. Like the gondolas that bring you up a mountain. Wait, no. Actually, you sent it on a gondola. Yeah. How did you cover the window? I love that you said sent. How did you cover the window? He just sent it on a gondola. It was an open one. He just sent it behind me.

We were trying to be sarcastic. We were like, oh, look at the mountain over there. He's just behind me, like, making it look like nothing's happening. How do you guys manage to get this information out of us? Were you wearing a dress? Like, how do you do that? Yeah, I think I was wearing your dress. Yeah, I think you were. Or skirt or whatever it was. How is that? But then how do you make it look like your pants are still on or you don't? It's like covered. So it was like covered. Is there not a security camera in the gondola? We have to go back there and have a gondola baby.

You guys have a cruise, baby. We need to come. See, we've never sent it like that. We're just, we're bedroom people. There was a cave once. That was cool. A cave? Yeah. That was so cool. Did you guys have to like snorkel through this cave to like make it like, what kind of cave are we talking about? It was like a little tiny waterfall and we just like swam in. And then,

Anyways. Moving on. I'm impressed. Honestly. That's amazing. Good for you guys. I mean, you've got to keep it fresh after almost nine years. It's that dopamine rush, right? It's that adrenaline. See, there you go. Have you seen that whole kind of movement that's going on? Why are you looking at me like that? I'm like, Matt, you've got to wrap it up. Now you need to say your craziest place.

We don't. We're not fun. I'm trying to think. Matt's like, actually, Sam, right where you're sitting right now. Actually, yeah. One time on your. Oh, wonderful. That's what that states.

status oh honey i'm so sorry no um no i think yeah i think when we first got married we had we were moving abby out of her old like no um house okay okay you want me to say this oh god they probably watch this okay it's fine it's fine okay well it was her who was her roommate's rug

On a rug? Was that painful? We just kind of sense it, you know? Sense it, quite literally speaking. Oh, please. Anyway. Please. Now we're all even. Yeah, we're even now. Gosh, a gondola. That is like, that's inspiring. Thank you. I'm glad we could be here to inspire you. Wow. Love that.

Well, you guys, thank you. Dressing rooms. Okay. Sorry, I'm stopping. Okay, but here's why I bring this up. Like, you guys were dating long distance. You guys would like be apart and then not see each other. So I'm sure you guys were freaking like doing it like rabbits when you guys saw each other. Yeah. For the first like 48 hours. You know, you guys seen Twilight? It's when Edward Cullen and Bella Swan get married.

And then they get a little house together. Oh my gosh, yes. And then they come back and Carlisle and Emmett are there and they're like, really? Like, no one can stand to be within, you know, 10 feet of us for a decade or whatever he said. It's like that. But this is my, like, first, like I said, my first boyfriend. So, like, we had to go a little crazy. Yeah, you guys. We had to get all the experiences out there. What do you mean? For the next guy? Yeah.

For when Harry Styles finally messaged you back. Please, I can't. Well, you guys, this has been so much fun getting to chat with you. If you haven't already followed Sam and Monica, you can find them on YouTube, TikTok, Instagram. You're probably on Facebook. Not OnlyFans. Not OnlyFans. Don't go looking for them on OnlyFans. You won't find an OnlyFans.