Our Love Languages, Marital Satisfaction & Things We Would Change
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- According to the data, marital satisfaction declines up to one year after the birth of your kid. - Does it go back up after? - I didn't read that far. I don't know. - Oh, okay. Who is your partner's celebrity crush? - It's Michael B. Jordan. - I guess. - Michael B. Jordan. - I just say that and you're so stupid. - Honestly, great choice. They both have great bodies.

Who is most likely to apologize first? Me. No. What's your partner's love language? Yours is acts of service. I feel like your physical touch, but also you're definitely words of affirmation. I don't know which one I am. What is your partner's itch? I mean, you have more than one, that's for sure. Yeah, there's a lot of things. It would be like, what are all 1,000 itchs that Abby has? If I had a whole podcast to talk about all your itchs, I couldn't do it.

What's up, dudes? And welcome back to the Unplanned Podcast. Here we are. We are here, and we are both sick. Okay, I am way more sick than you. You are more sick than me. You win the More Sick Award. Wait, I heard that that's actually...

some marriage advice thing I looked for. I looked up marriage advice for after you have a baby and something someone said, or no, I actually think it came on TikTok. Like you can't compare how tired you are with the other person. So that probably goes for sickness as well. Yeah, but that's okay. I think it was good that you looked up that marriage advice. I learned a thing or two in the car. We actually have a marriage book, like a couple's book that we were going to read in the car together and then we forgot it. So then we just ended up looking up like articles.

articles about how to... I think it was literally on parenting.com actually, citing my sources. But according to the data, most relationships, most marital satisfaction declines up to one year after the birth of your kid. Does it go back up after? I didn't read that far. I don't know. Oh, okay. We'll have to see. That's not...

But we've had a really good... I would say we've had a really good week. You know, we have our highs and lows. I mean, it's only Wednesday. I feel like our... This always happens with us. We have the highest freaking highs and the lowest freaking lows. It's just like... Well, we're together all day. Yeah, we are. Like, if we were separate, I feel like the distance would make the heart grow fonder. And then we'd come home and be like so happy. And then right as we're getting sick of each other again, we go back to work. But we stay together all day. But I feel like the...

The disagreements are always over the stupidest crap. Like last night, we almost got into like a little disagreement over like, well, I kind of, we just kind of stopped talking and then like let it fade out. And then we were able to come back together. It was about crumble cookies. I don't even remember what it was. It was like the stupidest crap. I remember, but whatever. It's fine. Okay.

Oh, okay. Yeah, see, that's the thing. You can remember it. I can't even remember what it was about. Oh, it's fine. But no, it's been a good week. Well, this is my second podcast of the day. So shout out to Ashley Lemieux, our friend and grief expert. Yes, I was just on her podcast this morning. So check that out. We were talking about postpartum, all things postpartum, honestly, but mostly like mental health postpartum.

Speaking of postpartum, you look amazing. I cannot believe you gave birth to a baby. Well, I'm wearing a very flowy shirt. The loose fitting clothes are the key to postpartum comfort. No, but you look so good. I got you an aloe yoga set and you tried it on and you looked amazing. Thank you, honey. Amazing. It looked like you didn't even have a belly at all.

three weeks and six days ago. Like you're just, that's not necessarily crazy. How much your body has changed. People were asking Abby in the comments, like, girl, how are you like looking so good postpartum? And I honestly think that the reason is, I mean, I think it's, you know, a lot of it's genetics, but I think it's also angles and true flattering clothes. But I think it's because you're so muscular. Like you're very strong. If you feel Abby's back, she's like built like

Like this girl is very strong. And so I think just naturally those muscles need fuel. And so it's just like, I don't know, like you eat a lot of food. You eat as much food as I eat. I do eat a lot of food. But I think you need that food because you're just so muscular. Thank you. Well, you're clearly more muscular than me. So I don't know if that. You're a strong woman. Thank you. I appreciate that. I think that's my favorite compliment. We got to do a Spartan race together. Abby did a Spartan race. I keep getting texts from them.

Because I stayed on their text stream because I want to know when the races are. But I need to obviously recover and heal. But maybe by the spring. We're going to do a fun episode today because we've had some harder topics in the past. We need to lighten this freak up. I'm not going to cry today. I already know that. Did you cry in the podcast that you recorded earlier today? There was a minute there where I was about to. I was like, please, no.

No, not on somebody else's podcast. You're kidding. No, I'm okay. I've embraced the tears. Like, it's just, I wear my emotions on my sleeve and I think it's my greatest superpower. Well, let's get into it. Today, we're going to see who knows who better. Who honestly do you think is going to win this? Are we going to keep score? Are we going to do like a general, like, okay, I feel like you won or you think I won? Like, what are we going to do here? I feel like we should keep score. You really want to keep score of this? Oh, we don't have to. I guess we could. I mean. Okay, first of all,

I know that I know you better because I feel like I almost know you better than you know yourself, Matt Howard. Really? Yeah. Like when you go to a restaurant, you're like, what do I want? And I know what you want most of the time. But I think there's circumstances where I could say the same for you. No, I'm just very, I'm good at listening and I'm good at understanding you, I feel like. Okay. All right. Let's just see. Let's just get into it. Let's see if you actually can back that up with facts. What did your partner wear on your first date? I have literally no idea.

Okay. Do you know what I wore on the first date? I have a feeling... Probably one of those purple polos that I always wore. I had like... I went to the polo... You wore that on that memorable date. That was the P.F. Chang's date. Yes, and we have a photo. It's even on my Instagram of our first...

our first picture together and then we put i did hashtag call me nemo remember that that makes me want to throw up why did you even do that sorry i thought it was funny it was an inside joke but does that make you feel uncomfortable now my older brother told me to put that on the caption caleb told you to put that on the caption i think i told him i was like never mind i sound weird now i gotta be i gotta be careful what i say because like anybody can listen to this podcast and be like you're a weirdo so let's forget that like every like there's like

Hundreds of thousands of people. We're literally just in our house. Yeah, we're just having a conversation. I gotta be careful what I say on this thing. My gosh. But I think when I posted the picture, we'd been like officially dating then. And I think I grabbed your butt at some point. And so I put, call me Nemo because it's like touch the butt. That's so inappropriate. Now I just feel like a weirdo. Okay, moving right along. What did I wear on the first date? What did you wear? So I'm pretty sure I know what I wore. Because it was like...

We did something outside. We went hiking. Do people save that for marriage? Like, do people, like, not grab their spouse's butt cheeks? I'm sure. That's a bit invasive.

But like, okay. Like, do people not front hug? Is it like side hugs only until you're married? Why are you acting like we're the most sheltered people in the world? I don't know. I guess everybody has their standard for what they want to follow. But yeah, you probably shouldn't have been grabbing my butt like that. Okay. I'm sure you grabbed my butt too. Also, I have no butt. By the way, I've seen you slap your dad and your brother on their butt cheeks. So it's just, it's a friendly thing. That's what I did too. It was just a friendly butt slap. No, it was not. Where's your butt?

is this going okay so i'm pretty sure that i had like my cute outdoors yeah because we went we were gonna go on a hike we did go on a hike yes and i'm pretty sure i wore my one pair of lululemon shorts i had that i wore all the time i still have them actually that's cool wow over seven years later i still have those shorts seven years today on my instagram story i posted the video of me um asking you to homecoming when i was like singing and playing guitar cute um seven years ago dude we've been together a freaking long time and i think i wore a blue tank top

It'll be really crazy. My guess is that you wore one of those Nike Mank tops that you were really into. And I almost think it was the purple and yellow one. Do you remember that one? Nope. That wasn't it. I didn't wear it. I don't think so. We actually don't even have a picture to back it up. So we have no idea. This one's a complete L. So we both don't know this one. We both don't know. I mean, I don't know why you'd remember that. I guess for some people it's like very memorable.

I feel like you were wearing a mink top. I did not wear a mink top to the movies. We went to a movie. You wore a mink top. Not to the movies. You're really into minks and you still are kind of into minks. I just started wearing minks again. I used to love those. Oh.

Okay, what was that voice you just said? I'm not into those. Okay. Oh my gosh, this question already is grinding my gears because we both say this. Okay, what is it? Just to get on each other. What is it? Who is your partner's celebrity crush? It is Michael B. Jordan. I guess. Michael B. Jordan. I just say that because it's like I don't actually have a celebrity crush, so I just say that one.

And I know yours is Kim K. But like it actually is Michael B. Jordan. Like you've told me that for years. I've known that ever since we got married. Because it's just my stock answer for that question. Hey, he's a very attractive man. I've seen all three Creed movies. He's very jacked. Has a great body. You know, I can't. And yours is Kim K. Honestly, a great choice.

Great choice. Kim K, also great body. They both have great bodies. What? Okay, so we both got that right, right? Yeah. So do I need to write this down? Yeah, write down one point for me and one point for you. Okay, okay. Okay, what is your partner's ideal date night? I don't, what would you say? What would you say for me? I don't even know what mine would be. It says date night.

But are we just going to say date in general? Sure. Yeah, a date. I feel like for you, you'd want to do something outdoorsy. Mm-hmm. And if we're at, I think you would probably want to go one wheeling with me or take me on the ripstick. I did just buy you a ripstick because I'm going to teach, because if you can ripstick, then you can snowboard. And I want you to know how to snowboard this winter. You're trying to teach me how to snowboard in the Phoenix heat. And the best way to do that apparently is a ripstick. We can go up north and we can snowboard up north in the wintertime. Okay.

Don't forget about that. We were having dinner with Dallin and Bella, our friends. And I was like, in other news, Matt got me a ripstick. And everyone thought that was hilarious. I don't know why they thought it was so funny. I was like, this is just another average day in our household. I kind of want a ripstick now, too. I don't know why I bought you a ripstick. I want a ripstick. You can have my ripstick. Wait, no. I want it to be for you. So I think we...

I think we can do something outdoorsy. Maybe hike. You know what made me really sad in Hawaii? You never would surf with me in Hawaii. I wanted to be that like hot surf couple that just like gets on the surfboard together. Like tandem surfing. We could have gone tandem surfing. Honey. And we never. Do you know I really wanted to be that hot surfer girl for you? But I feel like you never gave it a shot. Oh, I did. You did? I did. The thing is, I was learning how to surf. I almost died. No, you did not almost die. You just can't hold your breath for more than three seconds. Exactly. That's why I almost died.

Literally, Matt, I tried. I sent it out there in the choppiest, coldest waves for you. Abby, it wasn't even that cold. If it was cold, people would be wearing wetsuits and people weren't wearing wetsuits. No, no one else was out in the water. It was at castles that day. That's like the beginner spot, honey. That's not like an intense area. No, I'm telling you, no one else was out there. It was cold. It was very windy. That's a very windy spot. I think we need to teach you how to swim first and then maybe it'll be good. I went surfing several times. Like maybe three or four. More.

More than that. Every time, I don't think it was a good experience for you. So... I just didn't like it. Except for Waikiki, you did get up. I have to be true to myself. Yeah, in Waikiki, you got up, which was actually really cool. I was really proud of you. And that's because we had friends with us that were like way better surfers than I was. And they were coaching you through it. Because I was still learning. So I just didn't know what to tell you to do, right? Yeah, I had fun there. That's good. I really wanted to be that for you. And same with the snowboarding. I do it more for you than for myself. Because I'm like, I want to do this for you. But...

It's just not in my blood. I think for you, it's definitely- Wait, I need to finish your date. Oh, okay. And then- I mean, you're right. It's an outdoorsy thing. Some sort of activity together. Okay, because I feel like you like to bond and connect over an activity. It's more fun. Or something really, like, I would either, I would usually lean towards that, but I can really enjoy the romance side. Wait, what do you mean by romance? Let me tell you the perfect date, okay? This is what I- For you or for me? This is for you. Okay. And this is what I did for your birthday two years ago.

Oh, this was the perfect day. Take you out to a really nice dinner. Food. And then get you a nice gift. I was just like, I think I got you chocolate-covered strawberries and flowers. And then we sit at this super fancy hotel. Wait, didn't you get me a Kindle? I got you a Kindle, too. I got you so many gifts. Yeah, I just spoiled you for your birthday. Wait, you got me chocolate-covered strawberries? I did.

Yeah. Or actually, wait, I think it was a complimentary thing with the hotel. Yeah, that's what I thought. So yeah, we stayed at this super nice hotel in Springfield, Missouri, where we went to college. It was like a boutique, really cute hotel. Hotel V, it's the name of it. They had a record player in there. It was very romantic. It was very romantic. Yeah. And we watched a Christmas movie. That's always good. Okay, sorry, keep going. Because there was more to your date than that. Oh no, that was actually it. And then that's where I was like, wait a second, maybe I like the more romantic stuff. Because when I really send it on the romantic stuff, then somehow your clothes fall off. And then it's just- Matthew!

And then that's – I'd much rather do that than go on a hike with you. Let me just be honest. So anyway, that would be – I think that would be your perfect date is a really nice dinner. We went to Flame Steakhouse, which is actually where Abby and I used to work in college. And we had a creepy manager. It's across from Black Sheep owned by the same people. Owned by the same people. But the management at the time, the hired GM, ended up going to prison. Oh, yeah.

And we actually got fired from that job, but it's because this guy was just sketch. And I hope, I don't know what happened to that guy. I don't know if he's still in jail. I don't know what happened. Maybe I shouldn't even be talking about that on the podcast. I don't know. I think you should say allegedly. All of that is alleged. We don't know for sure. It was an interesting situation at our first job in college. So we worked there. But everybody was really- But then we still wanted to go back there-

Once we no longer... Once we already got fired because the food is so good. No, we actually didn't get fired. We did get fired though. Anyway, the reason I bring up that they also own black sheep is because James Charles just went there and...

It was so fun seeing like a celebrity like that go back to where we like our stomping grounds when we went to college. When do you go from being an influencer to a celebrity? Like when does that happen? Because I think James Charles would be considered a celebrity. I don't, he was a cover girl. That's true. That's probably when he, that happened. He was like, I'm pretty sure

was on Ellen DeGeneres we were this close to being celebrity status because people magazine wanted to feature our birth photos exclusively and then we didn't send them in time and posted them before they did and then apparently we had to send them to them first so then they were like we don't want to I don't ever want to cross that threshold so oh you don't want to be a celebrity no you can cross that threshold I can cross it I can be a music person yes but you don't want to do it you just I'll be your groupie oh thank you what do you want to be what do you want your title to be Abby um mom that's sweet yeah

Maybe I'll come up with another title sometime. You told me yesterday that you might be interested in writing a book or doing a cooking show. Like a children's book. Or I could, yeah, maybe do a cooking show. Or an actress. You could be a good actress. Or I could be an actress. You're a really good actor. Probably not in this season, but maybe in the next season. When is that season? I don't know. Whenever I feel... Is that season two? That's season... No, no, no. We're already on like season five. Oh, okay. Of Abby's Eras. Abby's Eras. You're in your mom era right now. I'm in my new mommy era. Yeah.

I'm actually still in the postpartum era. Okay. Postpartum era means we can't think about anything else. Nice. Other than tomorrow or actually till the next hour. Well, I think we both get a point for that. Yeah, we both got that one right. We pretty much crushed it on both sides of that. What's your partner's favorite home-cooked meal? Oh, that's fun. So we're talking about meals that I cook. I can't do meals that you cook for me.

Yes, you can. Ready for it? Yellow curry from the restaurant by our house. No, salmon. I make the best salmon. Oh, you grill it. Yeah, that is my favorite. I grill salmon and then we use our microwaveable rice packs, which it makes the rice perfectly. You can buy them at Costco. This is not an ad. This is just my personal opinion. It's Bibigo sticky rice. It's so good. And we put sweet side chili sauce on the sticky rice. Yeah, we got this all from Bella. And then, yeah, this is all from our friends down in Bella. And the soyaki from Trader Joe's. That's true. And then the

Lemon. There's a local grocery store that seasons the salmon. I don't know what type of seasoning they do on the salmon, but it's amazing. It's marinated. And it's actually not local. It's at Sprouts. Oh, it's called Sprouts. But the trick to – I thought Sprouts was a local place. I don't think so. Is that not local? I don't think so.

But the trick to making great salmon like I do is to use a thermometer, which I'm not really that gifted in the area of cooking. But I do know that if you cook meat to the correct temperature and don't overcook it, it's going to taste really good. Not to keep going on this tangent, but if you cook the salmon in the foil, I think it keeps it way more moist than if you just put it on the grill.

grill you don't just lose all that moisture yeah okay so that's my favorite that you cook so thanks for grilling that salmon of course i think it's 145 degrees i think that's what you cook it too but you got to take it off the grill early because it still cooks after you're right take it off the grill you do it excellently thank you and you do make the broccoli you got to give you that and i microwave the rice and i prepare well it depends sometimes i microwave the rice so okay um i think your favorite meal that i cook that's really tough

Oh, this is easy. Oh, I do love your ziti. But you gotta, come on, dude. This is easy money. You know, this is the meal I always beg you for. Oh, Greek food? Yes, Greek food. Every single week. If we lived in Greece, that would be amazing. The only thing that I would do is... I feel like it's probably the most American Greek food, so I'm hesitant for any Greek viewers to listen. We got gyros in Greece and they were delicious when we were on the island of Mykonos. But we're talking about home-cooked meals. Yeah, but you just said that we wouldn't like the Greek food if we went to Greece. We would like it. No, no, no. That's not what I said. I'm saying...

Oh, your version is American. My version is probably American. Yeah, it is. It is American. It's more like a kava Greek style, you know? Yeah. But it's really good. Thank you. Okay. We both got a point. So we both got a point. Gosh, we know each other really well. We are. We spend a lot of time together. Oh, this is really sweet. A picture of... I have my phone cycle through pictures of you as my screensaver and this is you. How did you do that? Oh.

Aw, the wedding night. I forget how I set it up. It's the one of us on our wedding night. This is Abby. She's so pretty. Thank you. In your wedding dress. What's your partner's favorite movie? I know yours. Oh, yeah. You know mine. Go. It's with the guy with the music. I always get this wrong for you, too, because I always want to say The Grinch or Elf, but it's not a Christmas movie. Wait, maybe it is a Christmas movie. No, I don't want it to be a Christmas movie. Yeah.

You're such a Christmas fanatic. Your favorite Christmas movies are Elf, The Grinch, and I think Christmas Vacation. I'm literally Googling this movie right now because I'm not going to get this wrong. I can just tell it to you. No, no, no, no, no, don't. Don't, don't, don't. If you're Googling it, that doesn't count. You're cheating. I can't think of the name of it, but if I can pull it up, I can't Google Matt Howard's favorite movie. How is this cheating? I don't think you can use your phone. That doesn't count.

With the movie with, what's it, Michael Keaton? Who's Michael Keaton? It's with Ansel Elgort. Yes, and him. Yeah, Ansel Elgort is Baby Driver. And it's, ah! Hey! Can I get that right?

Uh, if I, you can get it right if I can get mine right for all three of my, I named your top three Christmas movies. So if we can have it. That's everybody's top three Christmas movies. Hey, let's just have a mutual agreement. Shake hands. Give me a second to think about my favorite movie. We'll both get points. See, if you have to really think about it, then you don't even have one. No, I do. Oh, I thought of one and I told you this was my favorite movie recently. So actually you have to get it right to get the point. I don't know. What is it? I told you. What is it, Abby? Captain Phillips. When did you tell me that? Last week.

my gosh. Do you remember it now? My favorite? You kind of remember it now that I told you that. No, I don't remember that at all. But that is a very, I love that movie too. Maybe I could say that's my favorite movie too. I'm the captain now. That's a really good part. Oh, I love it. You should watch that. Wait, I wanted to say my favorite movie moment with you is after we get done watching that one movie on the airplane. It's the one with, is

Is it Leonardo DiCaprio and Matt Damon? Oh, I love that one. What's it called? The Departed. The Departed. I love that one. It was so gruesome and graphic and everyone gets murdered. The Mafia. It's the Mafia. It was a really good movie. It was free on the airplane. We should watch that again. Such a freaking good movie. But we liked watching violent movies, if you can't tell. Abby is a sweet little lady, but she loves violence and she likes to watch Game of Thrones too. Anyway,

We watched the movie. And you tell me, you're like, you know what I love about that movie, Matt, is there wasn't a single- It was good, clean entertainment. It was violent, but it was clean. There wasn't a single cuss word throughout the whole entire thing. I'm like, Abby, they said the F-bomb every 30 seconds. Really?

They said the F word eight. I think it was 300 times. Astonishing amount of times. Wait, let me look this up. The Departed. I looked this up afterwards. It says like, Abby, I think I've never seen a movie more where they- I'm so disappointed in myself. They cussed so much. I went ear blind. I think you just got so used to it. That's so sad. I should never get numb to the F word. Okay. The Departed F bomb count. Do you want to guess? Oh my gosh. 300. It says 237. No.

Oh, that's so awful. I'm not proud of that. Okay, so I got that one right, but you got that one wrong. 237 F-bombs. Give me a point. That's so many. That's more than an F-bomb per minute. How many minutes is it? 60 minutes in an hour. And so it's like a two hour long movie. Oh, that's awesome.

So, oh my gosh. Wait, no, that's like two F-bombs a minute. That's horrible. I don't know how you didn't hear that. I don't know how they even fit that many in. That's pretty impressive. How do they have enough time for that one and any other words? I know. That's a really good point. They should get an award for that. Most F-bombs in a movie. No, it's Wolf of Wall Street. How many F-bombs do they have in Wolf of Wall Street? Probably 400. Let's look it up. How many F-bombs in Wolf? Which, by the way, that movie, I liked it.

But it was overhyped. Wolf of Wall Street. It just went on too long. Oh, yeah. You're right. They annihilated. It's a long movie. They annihilated the record. Do you know how many F-bombs there are? 400. More. Oh. More. 500? A little bit more. No way. 569 F-bombs. That's inappropriate. Yeah. Okay. So I get a point. You don't get a point. No, we both get a point. I'm giving us both a point. You did not say Captain Phillips. We're tied. And I said, no, you had to think about it for like a minute and you couldn't even. How were you?

anything. Whatever. I'll come back and win later. I'll put a zero for me right there. Wait, give me a half point. It's fine. Because I knew the movie. I just couldn't think of the title. You get a point. Okay, what's next? What's your partner's coffee order? Your coffee order is anything with very little coffee and a lot of cream and sugar. And so for you, it's going to be a s'mores frappuccino. But unfortunately, it's limited time only at Starbucks. But you...

Try to order it any time of the year and you're always shocked when they don't have it. That's not a coffee. That's a milkshake, Abby. So it didn't say what's your partner's milkshake order. It's not a milkshake. It's a frappuccino. It's a milkshake. Okay, your coffee order? Yeah, what's my coffee order? Dude, you don't even know your own coffee order. Honestly, dude, we both cycle through. It's not like you have a set coffee order. You could give an answer that would be right though. I don't have a set coffee order. Give me an answer.

Okay, there's a couple different ones for you. So it used to be a black and white latte at Starbucks. Dude, you're still stuck on that. That was freshman year of college. With half the syrup. No, that was when we were newly married. I think you were still getting it, but it wasn't my order. I still like that, though. And then for a little bit, it was pistachio. That's limited also. And then... Well, right now we're in fall, so you're doing pumpkin spice lattes. Yes, but...

Do I like it cold or hot or blended? Ooh, that is a tricky one because we did get it cold from Dunkin' the other day. By the way, you like Dunkin'. I don't know why you like Dunkin'. I'm definitely like killing our chances of ever getting a Dunkin' sponsorship. Don't do that. I don't think it's that good. Why do you like Dunkin' Donuts so much? It's economical. But their coffee isn't good and their donuts aren't good. Their hot coffee isn't good, no. You just like to get their munchkins and you- No, not their munchkins.

You're the little egg thing. The little egg sandwich. Well, the veggie egg white bites and the everything bagels stuffed minis. Yeah. Pumpkin spice latte. That's your order. Okay. But that's not, you didn't answer hot, cold or blended. Definitely not blended. The mod that you do is half the sweetener. Yes. What threw me off at Dunkin' the other day is they gave us a cold one and I didn't know, we didn't specify iced or hot. I don't think we did. But which one do I like? Hot. Yes. There we go. Even if it's a hundred degrees, I like hot. I'll

I'll get a latte hot half sweetened. I'll give you a point. I'm going to give myself a point too. Okay. Yeah. You get a point too. This is kind of freaky. People are like...

people watching this are gonna just know us so well they're gonna be like i brought you your oh yeah it's so personal our coffee order that's very vulnerable of us to share hey sorry to interrupt if you could please share this podcast with someone that entered into a new relationship maybe they would enjoy it maybe this would be something fun for them to listen to because i don't know if you guys knew this but abby and i are married and we've been together for seven years could also share it with maybe uh

You could share it with your waxer. Whoa, that would be pretty cool. They're already getting personal, so. That would be an interesting job to wax someone. That would be a weird. We need those people. Just every single day show up and just wax people's bodies. Yeah. How interesting would that be? They've seen it all. I'm sure there's someone watching our podcast right now that that's their job. Tell us what it's like. It's probably just not even weird for them. They must have some crazy stories. Share it with your waxer. Thank you. And back to the episode. What is your partner's it?

I mean, you have more than one, that's for sure. Yeah, there's a lot of things you do that ick me up. It would be like, what are all 1,000 icks that Abby has? And I couldn't answer that in one podcast. If I had a whole podcast to talk about all your icks, I couldn't do it. Okay, one that I do that you think that is icky. First of all, wearing shoes in the house. Wearing shoes in the house is pissing me off. Yeah.

Because they're for my feet get dark. Do I eat off the floor? I luckily I don't have dirt on my feet right now But if when I walk around our floors my feet turn black because people keep wearing shoes in our house I wish she was in the house because I don't want to step my toe

You can wear shoes. Ask Abby. That's a good reason. That's the stupidest reason I've ever heard. Also, another reason, Griffin steps on my feet all the time and it hurts very bad. I do run into your feet sometimes too. And you run into my feet. When I go to kiss you. And also Griffin and his little rolling rock walker thing hurts my feet. Sometimes I go to give you, I'm so awkward and clumsy. Sometimes I'll go to give you like a hug or kiss and I'll like run into your feet. You're like, I'm kissing a girl.

a girl now and then you just run into me. Yeah, I'll just like run into you. Okay, yeah. Another egg that I had

have that you have about me is when i um eat things off the floor where things in bed that i wore throughout the day that can be gross yeah like if we were in like say we were like walking around chicago or new york and then you just get into the sheets with what you were wearing out in the streets to take a nap you don't yeah you go no don't do that um another thing it was when i eat off the floor you don't like eating off the floor just gross why would you do that

Okay, now name some eggs. Chewing. The biggest one is always going to be the chewing. Yeah, but that's a cop-out. You can't do it with something specific. I don't know what this... Does this mean that I have ADHD or that I'm OCD? No, I don't like that. I do this weird thing with my... Everybody look at this. That's not an egg. I do this with my fingers. And then I'll do like random... My leg will also bounce up and down. Like I'll like... The leg shaking is kind of an egg. Shake my egg. My leg. Shake my egg. Why do you think that was so funny? Shake my egg.

You ever shake your egg? So weird. I didn't mean to say that. It was like when my mom the other day in the car, she was trying to wear mittens. She said, I had these large muffins. I got my big coat on, my scarf, my hat, my boots, and my large muffins. She meant mittens. That's stupid. I can't. That's so funny. We were both crying. It was so stupid. It's a little thing. My large muffins.

Shake my egg. Okay, wow. Oh, Matt, your fingers and your legs shaking aren't icks, really. I think I know what our audience is. You're on the same wavelength. Our audience is ick is that we always don't wear shoes on our podcast and our freaking dogs are out. Dogs? Dogs. I said dogs, not dogs. Yeah, your guys' ick is that we have our toes out and sometimes I touch my toes.

Don't... Matt, that's going to go on a pornography site. That's going to go... Oh my gosh, it is. I don't understand that. No, they don't like it when I touch my toes either. Can we take a second and... They don't like it when my toes touch you either. Wait, how is it that people get off to feet? I don't understand that at all. Matt...

How does that even logistically work? No, here's my theory is that those people that find that actually like as a fetish are overblown. Like there really cannot be that many people. That's probably like most of our viewers then. It's probably 1%. Because we never wear shoes on our podcast. No, I think they just are grossed out by it. That's totally different. Oh, yeah. Yeah, that's true. No, they don't like it. Okay, so your guys is...

Ick is when we touch our toes, when you can see our toes, or when my toes touch Matt. Yeah. Okay. No. You're so close, but the fingers don't count. The leg doesn't count. It's when you... I like whack things. No? No, no, no. Sometimes I'll breathe a song, so I'll be like breathing the beat of a song. So if I'm singing like Rewrite the Stars from The Greatest Showman, I'll be like...

I'll be like, I'll breathe the rhythm of it. I used to do that when I ran cross country. I'd breathe the rhythm of a song. Is your shirt on backwards? No, it is not. No, it's when you wiggle your toes and I can hear how dry they are. Oh, when I do this, I'll make my big toe and then my- Vomiting, immediately vomiting. Is that my ring finger toe?

No. The one right next to my big toe, I'll like rub them against each other and Abby hates that. Especially if I have dry feet. They're so dry. I have so many icks about you, but I don't want to just dig into you right now. You have a lot. Name like two other ones. What are the two other ones? When you spit in the sink and you don't rinse it out. You hate when I gargle in the shower? No, I just find that odd. Okay.

I do that to clear my throat. Why would you spit in the sink and not rinse it out? I do rinse it out. My brothers don't rinse it out, and I think that's super disgusting. So you're telling me your brothers are coming to our... My brothers also don't lift the lid when they pee, and I think that's disgusting. Okay, well, you leave it lifted. I leave it lifted. And I almost fall in the toilet sometimes. No, I've gotten better about that. It's just a hazard in my own house.

I've gotten better and now I put both lids down. That way, your mom taught me this. She said that she made a really good point. She's like, everybody should have to do something when they're going to the bathroom. So if you always close it- My mom taught you this? She did. She made a good point. Because it's like, if you always close it all the way after you're done, then if you're a woman, you, you know, open it up to go to the bathroom and then you close it. And if you're a guy, you can just like-

open it up completely to go pee and then close both lids. Does that make sense? I think we should do that just so we don't have a toddler getting in our toilet because he was playing in the toilet water one time. I caught Griffin putting his hands in the toilet one time. He thought it was a bowl of water just to play with. Yeah, Griffin also already pooped on the floor the other day. That's an egg I have about Griffin. That's because your dad changed his diaper and didn't put it on all the way. Yeah.

Well. So thanks, Matt. Okay. I'm going to give us both a point there. Right now, Abby's in the lead. She's beating me currently. Another ick I have about you. I don't know if this is, I'm actually using ick properly, but when you're watching something that you already know what's going to be said or sung, you mouth it. I don't know why I do that. My mom does that too. I don't know what that is. You mouth it as it's happening.

And it kind of just like freaks me out. If I'm watching myself sing or like watching myself say something. It freaks me. I don't know why I do that. I'm sorry. I don't know what's happening. I'll be looking at the screen and then I like look back at you. I'm like, oh my gosh, why is he doing that? I don't know why I do that. What's your partner's biggest fear? Oh, man. Oh, I know for yours. Yours is claustrophobia. You hate elevators and you hate being in tight spaces. Is it my biggest fear? That's definitely a big one. Well, I mean, how deep are we going? Losing your babies would be a big...

That was really sad. Sorry, I don't want to even say that. Sorry. That is right, though. Or you. Okay, your biggest fear, I feel like, is being stuck. Like, being limited.

Being tied down. Being held down. That's true. That's a good point. You're a free range man. Which not to say that my... I want to echo your biggest fears too. Like obviously. You're just covering your butt right now. No, but not to... Like obviously that's... I feel like that's a given. Yes. You know? I know. So then I'm like, maybe I shouldn't count that and maybe my biggest fear should be listed as... Claustrophobia. What? What am I afraid of? You're afraid of possums. Yes. Ew. Ew.

No offense to possums. No offense to them. I have a phobia of them. Yeah, they are kind of creepy looking. Okay, so do we both get those right? I'm going to say yes. Why are you looking at me like that? I have a fear of yours, but I don't think I should say it on the internet. Yeah, maybe not.

but I got it right. - You got it right, yeah. - Okay. - We're all gonna be like guessing the comments, like saying the most random crap for what my baby's fears. - Yeah, they're gonna go crazy. - They're gonna go crazy. - And none of them are gonna be right. - 'Cause it's like, what is it that we can't say? - Nobody's gonna be right, by the way. - Maybe they will be. - Give us your best shot. - What is your partner's favorite thing about their job? - For you, it's getting to be home with your babies. - Yes, and to have like the flexibility to like, like tomorrow during the workday, I get to go to Griffin's gymnastics class.

That's awesome. That's great. That's a true gift. Give me nuts. That is a true gift. If I had to show up at a nine to five, I wouldn't be able to do that. I'm going to echo that one. I love that one too. But what was another one you'd say for me? I think yours would be that you get to be creative and have –

And there's a business element too. And just getting to, like when I was a kid, I used to put on little shows. And you get to entertain. And sing. And yeah, I think just like working in entertainment is fun because I always wanted to do that in some aspect. And this didn't even exist when we were kids. So there was no way we could have even known that this was something that we could do. I don't know why I just thought of this, but thinking about like when we used to perform and stuff, I was dancing for Griffin while he was eating breakfast the other day. And-

But I said, hey, Google, play. Wait, this is going to make someone's Google go off. Do it. That'll be hilarious. Hey, Google, play Disney classics. And when I did that. It just made someone's Google go off. The first song that came up was the most random song. And it goes, we're pollinators.

Pollinators from The Bug's Life. I know that movie, but I don't remember that song. Well, why would you? It's the most random song to pull up. And so I was like doing a little cane dance for Griffin. And then the next song that came up was When You Wish Upon a Star. And you guys, I told Matt this this morning, the craziest thing happened. I look over at Griffin and he's not whining.

Or really making a sound. He just has this saddish face. And he reaches up for me. And he has a big crocodile tear going down his eyes. And I was like, wait, did he just get touched by this song? So I like said something. And then I thought it in my head. And I said something to my mom. I don't know if he's capable of having those emotions yet. Flash forward to this morning. She's playing Disney songs for him during breakfast. And the same thing.

It happens. You know what? I think he gets that from me because I'm not a very emotional person, but music makes me emotional. It's why I like music so much. That happened to me as a kid too, though. Really? It would make you cry if you heard a sad, like an emotional song? The song from Toy Story would make me sad. Really? When somebody loves you.

You know that one song that's like, and I could dance with Cinderella. Stop, stop, stop. That song actually wrecks me. Stop, stop. Sorry, I'll stop. I said I'm not crying in this one. The other song that made me sad as a kid. That one at a wedding. Oh. Don't even. That makes me emotional. But imagine if you had a little girl. I can't.

I can't do that. No, but the song that made me sad as a kid was Chim Chiminey, Chim Chiminey, Chim Chim Chirey, which is funny because the words aren't sad, but I could feel that it's a minor. Isn't that song minor? I don't know. It is a minor song, so then I could feel the... See, you were a choir kid. I never did choir. I played guitar and sang. That was like my musical side in addition to musical theater. You're really just going to label me as a choir kid. You were a show choir kid, more specifically. We're pop.

Okay, back to the questions. Where did we, we got like so off topic. Sorry about that. Sorry guys. What do we win? So if you win or I win, what do we get? A kiss. How about a make out? Honestly, I just want a cheeseburger. A cheeseburger. Thanks. You get a cheeseburger whether you win or lose. I can't stop thinking about cheeseburgers. How about we have a trophy that is a participation trophy and that would be a cheeseburger.

Deal. And you can have mine if you want it. No. I'm just being nice. Can we go to In-N-Out after this? I filmed two podcasts today. Of course. Of course. Yeah. Okay.

Um, what's your partner's love language? I feel like your physical touch, but also you're definitely words of affirmation. I don't know which one I am. I like quality time too. I really enjoy like yesterday on the way to crumble. I just wanted to spend time with you. No, I feel that. And I purposely wanted to drive to the really far away crumble that had the waffle cookie because I wanted to just talk to you. No, I agree. I feel like we're craving quality time, not necessarily because it's actually our love language, but maybe just because it's harder to come by nowadays.

Yeah, that's true. But I feel like what makes you feel loved is probably words of affirmation. Yeah, probably. You love that. Yeah, I think I do. What's my love language? Actually, you're right because I give you a lot. You give what you like a lot and I give you a lot of words of affirmation. What's my love language? Yours is acts of service. Yeah, but I think it's becoming quality time because it's harder to come by. Yeah. I just like, I like acts of service because it's like, oh, you were thinking about me. Yep. And

And that's what I've realized too. Cause I'm like, what if this, like this thing that I'm doing isn't exactly what she wants, but it's just the fact that I thought about you, which makes a big difference. Hey, real quick. I don't know if you guys knew this, but I'm releasing music on Spotify. My name is Matt Howard. In case you didn't know, our last name is Howard. And I would appreciate if you guys can follow my Spotify account and save my song falling in love. It's the song that I wrote for our son Augie. It was in our birth vlog.

And it would just mean a lot. So if you could do that, I'd really appreciate it. Now back to the episode. What's your partner's dream job as a kid? Yours is definitely being an actress. What was mine? I mean, I really think yours was being an actor, like being a Broadway performer, but now, but then you also had a part of you that wanted to be a singer. What's weird, something that I realized too. Like an artist. Something I'd be open to one day that I never even thought about was like,

would probably be like directing or like doing some sort of behind the scenes work in a film or movie. Cause that's what I, I loved to do that when I was a kid. And that's kind of what I do when I put together our YouTube videos. Like that's what I'm doing. I'm like trying to tell a story through all these life experiences that we've been through. And I'm like, okay, what's the story here? How do I make this, keep this like entertaining? Um,

And that's what directors and producers and like all the like it falls into that category. So that could be really fun. Okay. Who is more likely to deal with a spider? Me. Abby. We both got that right. Yeah.

Why do you you just love bugs? I'm the exterminator in the house You are the exterminator in the house and we even pay for pest control. I don't like killing them. But if they're in my house Outside I won't you'll never see me kill a bug outside But it's in your house. Not my house. You know, what's sad is I feel bad I try not to kill them now I try to get like a cup or something because I just like I feel so bad for them Like I don't want to kill a living thing. It's so sad, you know, it's a life

Even if it's a bug, it's still alive. They broke into your house? They made a whole movie about that. It's called A Bug's Life. But if they broke into your house? They just snuck in. They didn't break in. They didn't break anything. Sometimes they do. Termites? You've seen that? But we haven't had any termites. If it's a termite, I'd kill that termite. But I'm talking about like, I don't know, a moth. Okay, well then they're intruders. That's true. That's illegal also. Here's where I get frustrated with bugs is if they multiply. So it's like...

That's the only reason that I would kill them. Cause I'm like, oh crap. I don't want this thing to make more. Let me tell you, Matt, if they know how to get in, they'll know how to come back in. Yeah. And now they're making babies in your house. That's just, that's weird. That's a breach of privacy, you know? Breach of privacy? Yeah. What? Okay. I don't know if that's what you meant to say. What did I mean to say then? I don't know. Okay.

Um, what is your favorite memory of us together? Okay. So you're answering what my favorite memory is. Yeah. I don't want to say the wedding day. I don't want to say the wedding day. Cause that's like such an easy one. That's like, I feel like that's a cop out. Like, Oh, the wedding. I feel like some of your best memories are when we traveled together. Yeah. And so I'm going to say maybe our first trip to Hawaii. That was magical. When we went to the big Island. That's your favorite memory. Yeah. Yeah.

Well, that convinced us to move to Hawaii. Okay. So what's my favorite memory? It just was so exciting because we were young and newly married and hadn't really like gotten to travel together. And like, here we are going to freaking Hawaii. Are you tearing up?

I don't know. It was just so exciting. And it just changed my perspective of life and the world. We hadn't traveled together that much at all. Yeah, it was really, really special. It was really, really fun. Yeah, for sure. Yeah, it inspired me. I'm like, man, we can live. We can leave the Midwest. We've...

I'd spent my whole life in Missouri surrounded by, you know, cornfields and not that I lived near a cornfield because actually you lived by a cornfield and I grew up by the city. But like, you know what I mean? It just, it was just like such a small, the world was small to me. And I'm like, man, this, we're in this massive world and there's so much to do. And,

I was getting into hiking too, so we did a lot of hikes there. Another one for me would be our LA trip. When we went to LA, we found these really cheap flights for like 50 bucks and flew backpack only, stayed in LA for a couple of days. You pooped your pants. I pooped my pants.

That's my favorite. We made this YouTube video called Trying the Weirdest Foods in LA. You guys should watch it. It's actually so funny. That's why I pooped my pants. Because we ate the weirdest foods in LA. Watch it knowing that Matt pooped his pants after that.

I mean, it's because we ate some funky stuff. We ate some tentacles. We ate tentacles. We ate this funky grilled cheese that was colored like a rainbow. But that was just exciting. It was just like, man, the world is our oyster. There's so much life to live, so much to do. I think I was discovering my love for travel at that point with you because I didn't really travel a whole bunch as a kid. Our family trips were mainly to the lake, and then we'd go to 30A. Yeah.

um, like Destin when I was a kid. So I don't know. It was just like, it was, it was fun discovering all these new things and getting to do that with you. My best friend was just magical. Yeah. Okay. Yours. Initially I was like the wedding, but I feel like that's a cop out. Then I thought about the, the memory. Um, two days after we got home from the hospital, we were, um,

in the in the loft upstairs and we had it was me you griffin and augie all just like playing together i was playing with griffin and i think you were holding augie and you started crying because you were like this is all i've ever wanted and i thought like oh that's probably that was probably really special for you to like realize why we have our family because i know family was really really important to you you know and you seeing you be a dad to our two boys for the first time really like in a normal family setting was like really really a sweet memory

Yeah. There's probably something... Think of all the cool things that we've done. Like a travel experience? A travel memory. That's what you're thinking of? I feel like me and you hiking and being at the top of Morro Rock and just watching the sunset. Oh, so Morro Rock in LA would be... Well, that's not in LA, but it's four hours outside of LA. I would say that. And there's just some funny memories too, like I have of just like... So many good memories of our first year of marriage, living in that tiny apartment when we were in low-income housing in college. That was...

Like, so many sweet memories. I wonder how many of our memories...

are like fully accurate as in like when we look at the past we always glamorize it i think we always romanticize the past i think we this sounds kind of morbid but i think we kind of do that for dead people too like you know how like if someone passes everyone this is such a matt howard thing okay but i was thinking about this i heard this on a podcast and i was like oh my gosh you're so right someone passes and you never hear about like man they sucked you know like it's a word for that yeah like you mark

Nobody ever talks about someone that passed as if they were a bad person. Because that's not really a good thing to do. True. And I don't blame people, but I'm just saying like we truly do glamorize and romanticize the past. And so I wonder like how many of our past memories were actually truly incredible and how many we just –

made up to be better than they actually were in our brains because our brains do that. We had a lot of really fun car rides too. Yeah. Like road trips together. There was a really fun memory that I... Man, we got to hang out with these friends again. But our friends Grant and Shaylee, this like random couple that DM'd us...

off of TikTok. Well, they're not a random couple, but at the time they were random. Yeah, we didn't know who they were. Because we didn't know who they were. But we just started TikTok. This was September of 2020. So this was three years ago. They sent us a DM like, hey, you guys should come like stay with us and we should go hiking. And we were like, okay.

Okay. And we booked our flights for like, I think four days after we responded to the DM. It was so quick. Such a fun, spontaneous trip. Yeah. The reason that it worked out was because they, and we vlogged this trip. A lot of these, that's the other cool thing. This makes me like almost want to vlog more because it's kind of cool to go back on these memories. Like we, I vlogged that trip with Grant and Shaylee. No, Matt, I was listening. Jess and Gabe, they make vlogs, which right now we're in a hard time.

It's hard to make vlogs that we're going to really want to look back on because we're not showing our kids' faces. But they make vlogs of their first Christmas with Micaiah, but they're just private. They don't post them, so they have a private unlisted so they can go back and still have those

you know, curated edited videos, but other family. That's a really good idea. So we should do that. That is a really good idea. I need to do that more because like a photo album is great, but what's even better is like, you edited curated vlog. You know what I want to get is, um, I think that that the new like VR thing that Apple made, it's like the, uh,

Apple's version of VR. You know that headset? Yeah, you were talking to me about that. Okay. I don't know. I think this is correct, but I'm, yeah, I don't know if this is right, but apparently it has like multiple cameras so that when you're looking through the headset, you can put the headset on, you can record a memory, right? I could record myself right now in this podcast studio and show what I'm seeing and show my, like show me and Abby interacting. And I can record that so that like five years from now, I can put the headset back on

And play that same video and relive. What if your headset breaks? I like that the internet is just going to be there probably unless the world is collapsing. You could probably save it into the cloud. I'm sure you could save it. See, the cloud, if it's in the cloud, I'm never getting it again. I don't even know where the cloud is. All of our stuff is saved in the cloud. All of our stuff is in the cloud. Matt, that's so ominous to me. We don't have anything that's not saved in the cloud. The effing cloud. I feel like it's more scary to not have it in the cloud. I feel like you don't even know what the cloud is yourself. You don't know what the cloud is and that's why you're scared. No, I definitely don't know what the cloud is. Okay.

Um, we have a hard drive that's not saved to the cloud and I'm worried that if that hard drive like say caught on fire or broke or just stopped working one day, all those memories, like all of our wedding videos gone, it's all on there. I need to move it over to the cloud. Anyway, back to what I was saying though, is with, with the headset, I want to get that to show me, like to record myself interacting with Augie and you and Griffin. And that'd be, I'm gonna get emotional saying this, but I can't just imagine like 20 years from now, putting that back on and then getting to relive that all

all over again and feel like I'm there. That'd be really precious. And hear their voices. Yeah. That's really precious because I wish I could hear my little voice because, and like now we get to hear our little voice. I try to remind myself sometimes like,

Sometimes I'm trying to just, when I'm putting Griffin down at nighttime, I'm like trying to just get it done so I can go out and just enjoy time with you or, which obviously time with you is important. And, or maybe I'm, I have like a task I'm trying to complete right after I put him down to bed, but I try to like, really just like let myself like just relax and just like live in the moment for just, just a second and just realize like,

there's going to be a day where I'm going to wish I could just go back and put Griffin down again for bed. Stop. I said I wasn't going to cry. You're trying to make me cry. I'm sorry. But I remind myself that because I'm like, I need to really appreciate this because this, this isn't,

this won't last forever. And there's just so much beauty in the everyday things that we have that you just got to cherish those moments. For sure. And there's nothing wrong with looking back to fond memories in the past. There's nothing wrong with looking forward to, you know, experiences that you'll have in the future. But,

If that all comes at the cost of overlooking the present, then I think that's a really bad, that's a really bad habit to build because you're going to live, you're going to live your whole entire life looking to the past and the future and never fully living in the moment. And that's really sad. That's not a, that's not a way to live. Got to enjoy the journey. How do we even get there? I think we're talking, I think we're talking about your mental,

But I guess you would say Mora Rock would be a memory for you, which is really interesting because more... Wait, this is an example of glamorizing the past because Mora Rock, I remember you were crying because you were so uncomfortable because we had hiked for 13... But I was very happy when I got to the top. But you had... You were crying, Abby. We had hiked 13 miles and you were exhausted and you were like, I think you might have been mad at me too because of all the hiking that we did. I think...

Well, you're probably just frustrated at the situation. Yeah. I was just scared because we were so, even at that moment, we were so far from our car. We had to hitchhike. We made this nice ladies though. Pitch black. That was a little bit. That was beautiful. That was dicey. What is your partner's most prized possession that they would save during a fire? Uh,

We're both not very sentimental about items. We don't keep money in our house, so there'd be no money to save. No, you might. Your mind is going so logical. Prize possession, like something that's valuable just to you, not necessarily to other people. Like, don't be thinking about your computer or something. Gosh, I don't know.

Gosh, I don't even know. I mean, there's not really like a physical thing that I'm like, oh, you know what? Maybe it'd be all. Our love notes? That's what I was thinking of. Our love notes to each other. Okay. Those would be precious. Whenever we are going through a bad rut in our marriage, I'll look at our love letters to each other and look at those like those notes and it makes me really happy. I'll do that. If you were doing social media, what would your dream job be? Probably just working in a coffee shop for me. Oh, wait, you're supposed to guess each other's. Okay. Yours is coffee shop. No.

Now you have to think of a different one. No, there's another one you can say. Wait, what would mine be? What would mine be though? That was so cute. You just want to work at a coffee shop? I feel like you'd be like a CEO of something. I don't know. I have a lot of- You'd be a music artist. A music star? A DJ. You would be a DJ. I keep joking-

When I'm like... DJ's my answer, locking it in. I keep joking to Abby's parents. I'm like, I'm going to be a music star. Like, I just like... It's like an inside joke. You're manifesting. Because your mom is sarcastic. And so with your mom, I'm like... But your mom will be sarcastic. She'll be sarcastic, but then also serious at the same time. So I'm doing the same thing. Because like, I...

I would like for my music to do well. Why do you guys always play mental games? I don't know. But I just think it's funny to be like, I'm going to be a music star because it just sounds so... But it sounds so funny though. Like it sounds so... I don't know. Like a music star just sounds very arrogant. I don't know. I just think it's funny. Okay. Okay. Anyway. No, you have to say another job for me because I said this the other day. You would have been an actress. If you didn't have kids right now, you would have gotten to... I'm talking about a realistic job.

We talked about you being a realtor at one point because you like to show houses. You do really good at that. You... A librarian. I don't think you've ever voiced these to me, by the way. You're just like, I think you had this thought and you thought that you said it to me, but you definitely never said that. I said it in the car. You never said that. In the car, I said it. Okay, next question. We talked yesterday about, yesterday we said that maybe you could have, you were telling me that you want to have a cooking show, write a book and do acting.

And you told me, and this was on our walk around our neighborhood. You were like, maybe I'll do all three. No, you said that and I was like, yeah, I could do that. Yeah, I could do that. Maybe I'm just really good at figuring out things that you'd want to do. Because I'm like, oh, Abby, you could do a cooking show. Oh, Abby, you could write a book. Abby, you could be an actress. You're really good at acting. And then you just decided, I want to do...

I want to start a coffee shop. And then I'm like, no, realistically, I just want to make coffee and talk to people. So then probably I just want to work at a coffee shop. Exactly. Because owning the coffee shop. And then I'm like, maybe I want to write a children's book. I'm like, nope, I actually just want to read children's book to kids. I've thought about that too with music because I love EDM. And I'm like, I want to make EDM music. And I'm like, maybe I just want to listen to EDM. Like, it gets me so hyped. I love the vibe of it. Maybe I don't want to make it. Maybe I just like to consume the product itself. Yeah.

But my creative brain does like to make things. So maybe I'll give it a shot and see what happens. Right now, I'm not making EDM though, because I feel like

I don't know. I don't know. I'll probably make EDM music at some point in the future, but I think I'd want to like make it myself. I don't even know how you do that. Would your partner rather be loved, respected, admired, or feared? Wow. I would. Yours is respected. Yeah. Well, I think I want to, I say, I think sometimes if I don't feel respected, maybe I just want to feel respect. I think you want to be respected. Yes. Or do you want to be feared? Maybe you want to be feared. Oh, okay.

I don't think either one of us would. I think we I think I think we both want to have respect. Yes. I think that's I think every human deserves that. Who is most likely to apologize first? Me. No, not at all. Earlier today, you were like, can you please apologize? I said, I'm sorry. And I was like, immediate. Here's the thing. I always have to ask for the apology.

I have to ask you for an apology. Whereas I go out of my way to apologize. That is not true. I'm not even going to get into this. Just trust me, guys. I am quick with the I'm sorry's. Heck no. Matt. They just don't come. They just never actually come. That is not even true. They don't come. I don't even want to fight about this right now. Jeez. We're on the internet. Where was your partner's first family vacation? That's a weird one. I don't know where your first family vacation was.

Oh, I'm stupid Disney World. Yeah, I would say yours is probably Florida. Probably Florida. Yeah. And if your partner had a superpower, what would it be? Like if we could choose a superpower or if we already have a superpower? Yeah. What would it be if you could choose one? Oh, if I could choose one? Okay, I got mine. What would it be?

Tell me what mine is. Okay. I was trying to see if you'd fall for that again. Super strength. Oh, that's a good one. That's a good one. You are very strong. Maybe super strength. But my, I was thinking about flying. What would mine be? I want to fly. Yours would be like, you could, you could just like look at me and see me naked. Oh, I can already do that. No, like you could see through my clothes. That's a really thing, weird thing to put on the internet.

I mean, I would love that superpower. I would take it. I would take it. I would take it. I was thinking of flying. Oh, actually. We're both thinking of flying. Yeah, I was thinking of flying. What does that say about our personalities that we both wish we could fly? Yeah. But I did suggest that though. I was like, Abby, we should make a rule in our room that we have to- That's why I said that. A no clothing rule in our bedroom. Yeah, that's why I said that. That'd be awesome. That'd be great. Yeah.

Well, I think it's pretty clear that I know Matt better than he knows me. You beat me by one thing. I'm just kidding. You know each other really well. It was also in a technicality because I named all of your favorite Christmas movies. So yeah. That's everybody's favorite Christmas movie. No, it's not. Elf, The Grinch. Those are movies that like nobody ever watches. Those are like. Oh yeah. I'm like really pretty. They're not like up there. Yeah. You're very. Well, you guys.

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