Engagement Rings Are a Scam, Drinking Underage & Being Friends with the Opposite Sex
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Taylor Swift is overrated. Ooh! She's got to be one of the most famous singers right now. Engagement rings are a scam. Yes, yes. I knew you were going to say that. Dropping a lot of the money in your bank account on a ring? Stupid. Going into debt. You know what's actually sexy? Financial stability. The drinking age should be 18. Okay, that is actually true. If you can serve in the military, you should be able to drink. Women should get paid time off for their periods. Wow. You take that one. I love it when my husband reminds me my intense emotions might be hormonal. Whoa!

This episode is sponsored by Rocket Money. What's up, dudes? And welcome back to the Unplanned Podcast. Woo-hoo!

Today we're talking about hot takes. Hot takes. Do you have any hot takes right off the top of your head? I don't like bangs. I think anybody that gets bangs... Oh, why was my head automatically going to the energy drink? No, no. I was like, I think you do like them. I'm talking about the haircut. Unless it's like a little girl, I think it's super cute. But I feel like anybody that looks good with bangs looks better without them. Yeah, that is Matt's hot take. I feel like as soon as...

home with bangs, what would your reaction be? I mean, look, if you really wanted to get bangs, it's your hair. You do whatever you want. But I don't know. I just don't think... What about the... It's kind of like, this is the other thing. Guys with long hair. If a guy looks good with long hair, they look better with short hair. Mm.

Most of the time, yeah. It's just a fact. Like even, isn't it Liam Hemsworth who played like Thor in the Marvel movies? He is a very attractive man. He ended up looking even more attractive when he cut his hair. And I feel like it's the same thing with bangs in women. You know? If they just, if they didn't do the bangs. But what do you think about curtain bangs? Like the new trend. Do you know what curtain bangs are? Can you show me a picture? Yeah, I'll show you a picture. Okay. Also, I feel the strong urge right now to give a disclaimer because I do not want to upset anybody. I know. Disclaimer.

- Disclaimer. - This is all just for fun. - This is for, yeah. - And honestly, why do you even, you shouldn't care what our opinion is on these things. We're nobodies. - And guess what? If you disagree with us, we can still be friends. - Yeah, that's the thing. - You could have a completely different hot take than us and we would still wanna be your friend. - Matt's friends with a lot of people that have bangs.

I think it's really fun to be friends with people that have completely different thoughts and opinions and viewpoints than yourself. No, Matt, that's actually a hot take of mine. What? I think that we should all disagree a little bit more. Yes. And learn to be okay with it. Yes. I love that. Yeah.

I think it's toxic when everybody has to fall into the same thing. This groupthink mentality, I think it's really dangerous. And if it's like, oh, you have to be a part of, there's a right way and there's a wrong way, I think that's a really dangerous mentality to have. Well, it's also just dangerous to hate people just because you disagree on something. Ooh, that's good. I think it's really powerful. We have people in our lives, we have pretty...

opposing opinions on hot topics with and it does not make me dislike them anymore. It actually makes me really happy to be friends with them and be close with them because I'm like we can have healthy discord where we're not just like gassing up each other's viewpoints. 100%. And it's really healthy because it makes you question okay why do I think the way I think and then it also makes us find a common ground on people that we would think would be totally opposite as us. Yes. And I think that's what we need so much more in the world. It's getting

getting uglier and uglier, I feel like, where it's like you just think people that think differently than you are evil. Yeah. And that's just really not a good ecosystem. I really appreciate it too when somebody who has an opposing viewpoint to me on like any topic whatsoever, when they have some sort of reasoning to back it up. Because if you're trying to have a strong opinion on whatever the thing is and not have any sort of reason, it's like,

Why? It's clear that you're just following a groupthink mentality unless you can back up what you believe or what you think with valid logic and reasoning. So that's my take. So we asked you guys on the podcast Instagram to send in your hot takes.

And we're going to give our two cents on them. This one is starting off very strong. This person says Taylor Swift is overrated. Oh, okay. What are your thoughts on that? See, I'm afraid to even get close to the Swifty Colt is what I want to say. The Swifty Colt? I don't know. The...

Okay. Because I feel like I missed the train. Like everyone got on the Taylor Swift train like several years back. She's been around for so long. And it's like I've never been the fangirl type for a

For literally anybody. I don't know why. Like, I just never... I kind of wanted to be a fangirl. I think I told you, like, growing up, I was like, man, when everyone was picking a Jonas Brother that was, like, their favorite, I remember being like, I just... I'm not... No offense to the Jonas Brothers. I just was never a fangirl type. Like, I wanted to love Troy Bolton, like, as much as my friends did. I wanted to love Justin Bieber. Just not a fangirl. But...

I will say the Swifty fandom seems to be very inclusive. Like, everyone has been like, no, you can come be a Swifty now. Really? Yeah, maybe that was just Bella. That's awesome. Yeah, maybe that was just our friend Bella. But they all give out friendship bracelets at the concerts. Have you seen that? But that's actually so cute. I love that. I know. It's like...

I want to be a Swifty, but I just miss the train. I kind of want to go... It's been hyped up so much. I kind of want to go experience the concert myself. I know, but now... Should we fly to, like, Germany or wherever it's going to go? Like, I think they've extended the tour now. Everyone was going to the concert, and their first stop was in Phoenix, where we live. And we were like, wait, how did you guys all know there was a concert here? Like...

How do people know when concerts are coming? Like, I feel like they just come to your town and I'm just like, oh man, you were here and gone so fast. I don't know. I feel like the marketing behind her tour and her brand, like all that has been so good. I think she's just a really smart woman. I think she really knows what she's doing and she's really put in the work over the years. So I think there's a reason that she has such a dedicated fan base because she's been, you know, she's been grinding, making this music and touring and perfecting her craft. She works so hard. Oh yeah. So I don't think she's overrated. I think she works extremely hard and...

She has created a whole cult. I will say this though, bear with me for a second in the finance terminology, but like if you invest money early over time with compound interest, it like grows and grows and like eventually it doubles and then that money doubles and that money. And so like you have this like snowball effect with investing. I feel like,

careers have that same effect. So I think since Taylor Swift has been at it for so long and she's gotten so freaking good at what she does and she's just gained more of a following as she's gone further and further into her career, I think she's had this snowball effect to where maybe she is a little overhyped because she has...

so much attention on her, but I think it's all deserved. She's got to be one of the most famous singers right now. Yeah. Oh my gosh. She's more than a singer though. I feel like she's like an icon. And look, everyone's talking about it. We're talking about her right now, right? This one says engagement rings are a scam. Yes. I knew you were going to say that. Okay. Do you want to talk on this one or me? I mean, we can both chat about it, but my ring is not a real diamond. It's fake. And I feel like

Nowadays, though, people are moving away to different types of gemstones. But especially for our parents' age, I feel like that was when the Diamond is Forever campaign was the biggest. Your engagement ring is just a symbolism. It's nothing like, I don't know, I think people put too much into it where it's like, this is a man proving that he can provide for you. So he needs to get an expensive fat ring. It's like, no. If you're going into debt. You know what's actually sexy? It's financial stability. Booyah!

Give me a high five. Like going into debt for a ring, stupid. Dropping a lot of the money in your bank account on a ring, stupid. Taking the money that you would have spent on a ring and putting it into a house or putting it into an investment or making some other financial... Or even pay. Maybe using it towards your education, you know? There's a lot of good stuff. But what if...

- Even just like a really fun honeymoon, you can make memories. - There you go. - And you're not just wearing it on your finger because you could lose it, like I did. - I've read somewhere that engagement rings actually drop down in value faster than anything. Like you buy that thing and then the value immediately, it just goes away. 'Cause nobody wants to buy an engagement ring from someone that their marriage didn't work out or their engagement didn't work out. - No, 'cause it kind of feels cursed. - Exactly. And that's why I actually thought about buying a ring initially at a pawn shop.

And then I was like, you know what? Maybe we should just get a fake ring, like a fake diamond and it'll be ours and it'll be new. It won't have that weird feeling of like, oh, this is somebody else's ring. Yeah, that does. See, even I do kind of feel like I wouldn't want a pawn shop ring just because I'd be like a little bit stitious. Yeah, yeah. But it's just not a good investment. And so you want to put your money in something that's a better investment for you and your family. But I also do think there's something to say for just like doing something not logical just for the sake of romance, if that's what you want to do. But...

I do think engagement rings are. I want to show your ring to everybody. Wow. It's like stuck on your finger right now. Don't make me panic. Okay. It's kind of twisted a little. Is this going to come off or like what's going on? My finger. My whole finger. My. Oh my gosh. Okay. Sorry. Sorry. It looks beautiful. So fun fact. Wait. Wait. Remember when I got size at the jeweler and they said, oh, you're pretty knuckly. Yeah.

I didn't know they said that. I guess I have big knuckles. Okay, moissanite is actually sparklier than a diamond, fun fact. And so that's also part of the reason why we got this one here. You talk while I show them the ring. Just so you guys know, this ring was the very first ring that I tried on when Matt and I went to go look for rings. Matt, you have to put your hand behind it. There you go. Yay.

Yeah, it was the first one I tried on, and I always make the joke that the first ring I tried on was the perfect one, and the first boyfriend I tried on was the perfect one. Yeah. I'm a girl who knows what she wants. Let's just say that. Next hot take. This one is Starbucks isn't that good.

Ooh, again, very impressive Starbucks. They have capitalized on coffee more than any other business in the history of time. The Stars program. I don't know how they're so good at it. People go there now to buy lemonade. It's like...

No, do you know what I got for Griffin at Starbucks? What? This is a special drink that's only 65 cents. And it makes kids think it's so special. What is it? It's a cup. It's ice water. But add strawberries. Those little freeze-dried strawberries. And the whole drink is pink then. And it has like...

floating strawberries in it and it's literally just there's not like sugar in it it's just water and it's a special little drink for him see look at us we're talking about starbucks loving their drinks they're they're smart mom and dad hack okay i would have said starbucks was overrated which first of all i would always rather go to like a locally owned mom and pop coffee shop i would always prefer that and usually the coffee is always better yeah but

If Starbucks is what's available, say you're at an airport, say you're just driving through somewhere really quick, whatever the case may be. Also, Starbucks hours are a lot more flexible than other coffee shops. Their coffee actually is better because we did that pumpkin spice video where we tried every single latte or every single pumpkin spice latte. Starbucks was by far the best. I don't think good coffee is that hard to make though. I think if we wanted to open up a coffee shop, we could easily make a good cup of coffee and coffee historically was really cheap. Like people would spend...

Just a couple years ago, it was like two bucks on a coffee, you know? And now because of Starbucks, everyone's spending five, $10 drinking black coffee anymore. Exactly. And I think they've made, they've, they've really changed the marketing behind coffee and made it really exciting. And they have all these fun flavors and drinks, almost like crumble has like different flavors all the time with their cookies. Starbucks had the same thing, but with, with the seasons and all that, they're smart. They're good at that. I love a good special drink. So I,

would actually disagree with this hot take. I do think Starbucks is good. They're doing something right. I think they're very good at what they do. This one says low rise jeans and bell bottoms should not come back in style. What does that even mean? Low rise jeans. Oh, it doesn't go high up on your belly? Yeah. Interesting.

see pre baby body i would have been like i do like low-rise jeans as a petite person because sometimes i feel like high-waisted jeans cut me off and make me look like spongebob square pants yeah no i don't think you look like i think i love checking you out in jeans and when we went shopping at hollister the other day i was just like blown away with how good you look and all your outfits thank you that's actually really fun for me i know that's something

that you like to do that i don't think most husbands or boyfriends i just like to watch you try on clothes i think you look so good that was a fun little date we just went to the mall and tried on clothes got to talk hang out we didn't bring any kids with us so it was like mom and dad time it was really nice yeah but i think it's funny how quickly the styles changed because i got i feel like i got made fun of for wearing cargo shorts yeah man was shocked by all the cargo going on and now we got cargo shorts galore coming back cargo pants especially are like cool and i feel like

that definitely wasn't cool a couple of years ago. Do you, do you like the trend or do you have a hot take about cargo? I mean, look, I can't choose the trends. I can't, you know, force them, but I can see how it's, how it's cool. All the cool and functional. You go to LA, we were just in LA for our podcast. And like, I saw people wearing cargo pants everywhere. I'm telling you, uh, personally,

Definitely low-rise jeans are a no from me. I agree with this one. And also bell-bottoms, no. I think being a short girl, bell-bottoms also cut me off. I think they're kind of cute though, bell-bottoms. I feel like that's kind of like... When have I ever worn them? Isn't that like a mom pant? Like I feel like you kind of look like a cute mom in bell-bottoms. You think I should get a pair of bell-bottoms? Yeah, maybe. I don't know. I...

Here's the trend that I'm not fully understanding is like the skinny jeans going out. Cause I kind of like skinny jeans. They've been out for a while. Really? They've been out for like several years actually. That's really sad. That's disappointing. Yeah. I used to love to wear, I actually still have my skinny jeans in my closet. I think I have two pairs.

The ones that have a hole in the butt? Yeah, the hole in the butt ones. You should get rid of those. I don't know, though, because we used them for that photo shoot the other month. The other month? That was like literally March. It was March, yeah. Time is flying. Do you have your skinny jeans or did you donate those? I do not have a single pair of skinny jeans. Maybe one pair of skinny. I don't think I have any skinny jeans. When we dated, which was seven years ago, you wore skinny jeans all the time. Yeah, because they were in then.

They were already probably on the way out at that point, honestly. Really? No, I have no idea. I'm not really good with trends.

Okay. I'm a big fan of timeless pieces. Nice. This one says schools are more about passing than learning. I would 100% agree with that. That's what I felt in high school. As a student, I would cram the night before, stay up really late in cram study and I'd get an A on the test and I like really didn't retain that information, but I'd pass and I would do well. So is this saying like the school system has like set it up for that or is it just like how students treat it? Or is the way school systems are set up

leading students to treat it that way. It's really hard because I think you need some way of measuring intelligence and measuring all that. And so to measure intelligence, you need to have standardized tests and you have the ACT, SAT, all that. But then it just comes down to really how good of a test taker are you and not really how intelligent are you? I don't know what a great solution is that because we talked about that a lot. I was an elementary education major in college and I

There's qualitative ways to analyze student knowledge of a certain topic, like projects, speeches, things like that. More creative outlets, talks. And then there's quantitative, which is things that you can reduce down to a number or like a letter grade, like an A, B, C. And you really kind of have to have quantitative data to measure. It's hard.

I think some of the most. Yeah, I do kind of agree with that, but it's unfortunate. I think there's a lot of teachers out there that are passionate about getting their students to learn, but it's hard when you're like within the confines of a larger system. I think the best learning comes with doing. I've never learned more than when I'm actually like trying to accomplish something. Experiential learning? Yes, experiential learning. You're correct.

I used to do group projects in middle school. I went to like a private middle school and then a public high school. And I feel like those group projects really taught me a lot about how to see something from start to finish and work as a team and be creative and make a presentation or create some sort of product that you're doing for whatever class you're in. There's so much more that takes place there than,

happens in a standardized testing environment. Get this. A cool project I did in high school in my human anatomy and physiology class was we literally had to build a prosthetic with the correct type of joint, whether it's a ball and socket or hinge or whatever. And then we had to present it to a board of local doctors. Wow. It was very stressful for me because I was like, I don't, I just want to be an actress. So I'm not sure that...

I know a little enough. I still, you got to pursue acting, dude. You're such a good actress. I would recently, now that I'm kind of getting out of the fog of like new baby, I'm trying to be like, that actually really fun. We interviewed an actress on an upcoming podcast. She inspired me. Does she inspire you? Cause she's like still going to be a mom and be an actress at the same time. When she was like, I can have it all. Like I was like really inspired by that. Yeah.

It's cool. I think I get inspired by people that go against the grain and it's like, yeah, maybe. They make a way for themselves. It's like, oh, you're a parent. Now, the only thing you can do is be your parent. And it's like, actually, no, you can be a parent and you can be a business owner or you can be a parent. And you can be a good parent. Yeah, exactly. You know. 100%. I love that. I feel like you always think you have to give and take or, you know.

trade one thing for the other. Totally. Oh, this one is, it's not that hard to be on time to places. Not true. That is not true. It is incredibly hard. We very much disagree with that take. Yes. We're working on it. Probably the hardest thing that you could do is be on time. I really hate that we are late people because I want to be so respectful of other people's time. But I just want to say it goes both ways. Like if people are late for us, we literally...

Do not care at all. That's right. You're on your own time right now. I think ever since we lived in Hawaii, we got on Hawaii time and now we're always just, that's how we are. I feel like we actually, since we were like so late and so lenient with time schedules, now we've gotten a little bit more punctual actually since having kids.

Having kids has helped. Because we're like, crap, we got to get back for nap. Yeah. It has helped us a little bit. Because if we need to get our kid down, like we've learned like, okay, you know what? We're actually not going to be on time. So let's like give us 15 minutes of margin. Yeah. And then having kids has kind of whipped us into shape. I also have another hot take about kids. What? I think having kids has made us more productive.

Uh, no, really? Can't be lazy. You think so? You cannot be lazy with kids. I would say it gives life more purpose. Like I feel- Oh, for sure. I feel so happy to be a dad. And I'm just excited to watch these kids grow up and get to experience their first baseball game and their first day of school and like all these fun memories with them. But I don't-

You think it makes us more productive? I do a million more things in the day now because I literally can't. There's two little people completely fully relying on me. And my day starts whenever they wake up, usually like 6.30. And then it's a whirlwind till 10.45. It's literally a whirlwind. I cannot even at this point in my life imagine laying down and watching a TV show. We did do that. We did do that last night though.

for five minutes while I nursed the baby it was funny I like you were nursing and then I like laid in our bed and I was looking at the the time on the tv for the show literally four minutes probably no it was either three or four minutes that I got to watch it's like ah finally we like watch our show we're watching Hercules on Disney plus our show is like actually Hercules Hercules

And then three minutes later, you're like, "Matt, can you go watch this like pump part or something?" And I was like, I just got like a solid like three and a half minutes of relaxation watching a show. I think that's the thing with kids when you say productive, maybe you feel more productive, but for me, I think I definitely have like less time to myself for sure. And so if you wanna have time to yourself or like time alone with your partner, like you need to plan it. So that will, I will say, it's made me more intentional with my time.

Because I'm like, I have limited time in the day. I need to wake up early because our kids wake up early. I have to, you know, put things on the calendar so they actually happen. Yes, I was just complimenting you earlier.

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Unplanned. Back to the episode. This one right here is very much a hot take. It says, I love it when my husband reminds me gently that my intense emotions might be hormonal. I don't know. You take that one. I don't know what to say on that one. My knee-jerk reaction is no, I don't want to be told I'm hormonal. I do think that the approach, say it was like, hey, honey, like I can tell that you might be feeling some big emotions right now.

And realistically, I'm thinking that tomorrow this situation is not going to make you feel so strongly. Do you think your hormones could be, I don't know, I think there's a gentle way that you could kind of maybe nudge that that might be what's causing it. I feel like if I ever would have done that, you would have like slapped me in the face. No, it's because like if the word crazy is ever used, that's going to be a no. That's going to be a really big, it's like, oh,

You're calling me crazy. Do you want to see crazy? I'll show you crazy. But hormonal maybe could be... That could be all right. You think so? Because sometimes I'll even tell you, I'm like, I'm dealing with a lot of hormones right now. Like, I'll tell you that. That's true. I guess if you bring it up, then it's okay to talk about that since you're the one that brought it up. But if that wasn't the case, then... I think I would like it, actually. Now, I think this woman's on to something. If it was gently like, you know, I know that...

right now is a tough time hormonally for you. Huh, okay. I think that could work. Okay. That is a hot take though. I bet there's a lot of women who wouldn't like that. I think it should just be know your partner. Yeah. And also you can tell your partner's heart behind it when they say it. If they're just using hormonal to be like put you down, you can tell. Or if they're just like trying to help you work through your experiences. Yeah.

You can tell. Yeah. This one says Crocs are so overrated unless they're on a baby. That's a different story. That's what this person said. Okay. Yeah. On kids. So cute. I would agree with this hot take. I do think Crocs are overrated unless they're on babies. Then they're underrated because if you have a baby with chubby feet, let me tell you Crocs are

The only way to go I could see myself wearing some crocs. You don't think that'd be cool, dude If you had crocs, they would be like boats on your feet. That is true. They're very wide They're very chunky shoes. Yeah, and you have size 12 feet, but we have a chunky kid So it works out for our kid works great for him, but not maybe for you I do think crocs for adults are overrated I think they look kind of funny on adults and I think that makes it cool But my question is who is hyping up crocs because I don't really hear a lot of croc hype for adults

Our friend Kelly likes Crocs. That's true. Happy Kelly, the dancer. But then do they wear them to be ironic? I don't really know. Or for comfort? She probably just thinks they're cute. If they're for comfort, then nothing's overrated. Do what you gotta do. Did you see Chris on TikTok with the Croc heels? He was like wearing Croc heels the other day. Oh, those are cool. You think those are cool? They look uncomfortable. Yeah. This one is very much a hot take. Women should get paid time off for their periods. Wow.

I think if they did that for women, I feel like guys would need time off too to make equal, right?

Like some sort of like. Why? They don't have a period. But then like. I understand that. But then if you're working the same job and one person's working more hours than the other person. Same work. Same pay. Like that's what it should be right? Hot takes. This might get tricky though into like equality issues. See for me my periods were never anything intense where I would need time off. Okay. So.

So I don't know. I do feel, I feel terribly for the women that have awful periods though because. Yeah. Like think about having to deal with that every single month. That would really suck. Just to be a woman. That would really suck. Oh.

Yeah, I do think that that one could be a logistical nightmare. This hot take I know is going to get you fired up. I just read it. No shoes in the house. Yes, I completely agree with that. Matt has been telling people in our house to take their shoes off. Because, okay, I'm sick of our floors being so dirty that when I walk around barefoot, my feet turn black. It is so gross. I'm over it. And then I get in bed at night with black

I don't want to have to wash loose dirt in Phoenix because it's just so dry. No, it's because everyone's wearing shoes in our house. Nobody doesn't wear shoes. So I've like in four. Now I see people in our house with shoes. I might take your shoes off. I like wearing my shoes. But I think it's funny as our sister-in-law was told growing up to wear shoes in the house, like her parents would like yell at her to wear them because they thought it was like safer for her toes or something.

So they would like stub their toe. Her dad would say, why were you not wearing shoes? Like, what's wrong with you? So for her, she's always wearing shoes in her house. And now she's bringing over slippers to wear in her house. Yeah, that was very thoughtful of her. Yeah, that's very sweet. She listened to the podcast. So she did that. Oh, she did? That's where she found it. Did we talk about this on the podcast? Apparently.

Oh my gosh. I forget about half the stuff we say on this podcast. Exactly. I say this. It's dangerous. I know. I'm like, wait, how did you know that about me? And they're like, oh, well, you posted it on the internet. I'm like, oh. Like when we posted TikTok, I usually watch them a couple of times to like make sure it's like perfect and stuff. I don't rewatch this ever. I do. It makes me cringe. I watch this back at least once. I can see why people are like, oh.

Abby's voice is so annoying. No, you're... Because I don't even... Okay. Hey, I don't even want to listen to it back. That is ridiculous. Your voice is so sweet. I love your voice. You want to know something? Today we went through the Panera drive-thru. The lady, as soon as I got to the door... Like, okay, wait. So she took my order. She was super nice. And she was like, pull around front, darling. She called me darling. It was really cute. Oh my gosh. Then I go to get my order and she's like...

it was you and she recognized me by my voice she recognized your voice she's like i watch your tiktoks that's like i wondered if i would see you because she just moved from tennessee and so she's like i'm moving to arizona i was wondering if i'd run into you so sweet she recognized me for my voice i love that yeah my voice does kind of sound like a preschool teachers is what i'm told i hear it all the time so i don't think about it precious i love your voice that was something that i actually really liked about you when i we first started dating i was like you have the cutest voice thanks

And the cutest, nice. Do you think it's something that people think of right when they hear me talk? Or it's something that like over time they're like, oh yeah,

is kind of definitely unique wow does that make you sad if you ever see a comment about your voice that's kind of a low blow of that person i can't change it so i feel like if it's something i can't change then it's pretty it's a reflection of them if they're gonna make that comment so no it doesn't make me i'm so sorry that's so but i will say social media has a way of bringing out things about yourself that you never even gave a second thought to and now i think about all the time like

My voice is something I think about all the time now ever since we've done social media, whereas I never thought twice about my voice beforehand. I've gotten my first slew of hate comments on my singing videos on my personal TikTok where people are like, that's so cringe or like, is this a joke? Or just like... Yeah, do you know what they... You gotta have thick skin. Exactly. You gotta have really thick skin. And I think like when I post the videos, like...

It's definitely uncomfortable for me because I'm a perfectionist. And as I continue to make music and continue to get back into this singing thing that I used to do and I want to get back into it now, I know that I'm not perfect and I'm going to get better as I work towards it. But seeing comments that are like, man, he's not good or this is cringe. I'm so sorry. It does get under your skin a little bit. Well, you know who I bet would never, ever make that comment? Who? Taylor Swift. Why? Why?

any person that's had any success in an area is never going to look down on someone that's on the first step of that journey. Yeah. Like Taylor Swift's top pop star of all time is never going to say something negative about someone that's just uploading their first singing video because they've been there. They see that this is a journey and this is like so brave of that person for taking that first step and starting that. Actually, I completely agree. We had when we started the podcast, we got like a bunch of

messages or a bunch of comments like on our post promoting the podcast saying this is so dumb. Like, why are you guys making a podcast? You shouldn't be making a podcast. Oh my gosh, another podcast. And it actually worked out that the podcast actually has like been a really great thing and we've had a lot of fun doing it. And so I, I just think about that. Like people, I don't know what it is, but people like to crap on people when they're starting something new.

People that aren't doing anything for themselves. Yeah. Like if they're not putting themselves out there in any way, it's really easy to be a loud mouth. Yeah. So if you're not going to put yourself out there. Yeah. So if you're somebody that's trying to start something, whether it's a business or a new career, or maybe it's some sort of artistic pursuit in acting or who knows what it is.

Just do it. And maybe you'll fail. Maybe you'll get made fun of. But like, who the heck cares? Because there's a chance that maybe you hit it big and maybe you succeed. And then people are going to look at you and be like, wow, I wish I would have had the guts to do what they just did. Also, no offense, but take a look at the people that have something negative to say about you and then ask yourself, should I be giving that person's opinion of me so much weight? Because chances are they're not worth it. That's really good. This one says Game of Thrones is better than Breaking Bad.

Yep, it is. Yeah, actually yes. Both are very good. Such a good show. Such a good show. I would agree with that hot take. We like violence. We like violent TV shows. Just kidding.

i like action though um this oh this is a hot take you don't have to shower every day that's actually true actually scientifically you probably shouldn't shower every day it like dries you out especially your hair no you need to shower every day i do shower every day and i wash my hair every day your private part so it's gotta get freshened up no you don't need to clean those they clean themselves especially like women some women think they need to like clean down there you don't know your body cleans for you if you're like if you're putting stuff up there like it's not up there oh my

Oh my gosh. Not up there. I'm just saying like your body self-cleans. Okay. I get that. But like don't you need to just suds it up every once in a while? I don't think you do. I feel like that's not good for you. No. I feel. I gotta have a shower every day. I feel like I've read articles about like cleaning your body. Like your just general hygiene and people. What about your armpits? Yeah.

Even your arm? Like think about people in the 1800s. Like they didn't shower every day. They were probably so smelly, Matt. That's true. They probably could have showered more. They put dried herbs and flowers around them to like mask the smell of their body odor. I never want to smell what that smelled like. That'd be awful. Yeah, I do think you should shower every day. But maybe.

Maybe scientifically or medically, you don't need to. But for me personally, I need to shower every day. People's noses must have been really accustomed to horrible smelling stuff. Because there used to be poop in the streets all the time. Like in New York City, people would just like leave poop in the streets. Horses would just crap in the street and they would shovel it all to the side. Yeah. And also they didn't have refrigerators. So food probably was spoiling like crazy. I'm sure there were all sorts of crazy smells back in the day. This one says Disney is for all ages. That includes Disney World, Disney movies, etc. Oh.

I would agree. I would agree. And I think that's why... Matt, just say it on the podcast. You're a Disney adult too. We're both Disney adults. Give me a high five. Give me a high five. We're going to Disney in like a month.

I'm so excited. We are. I'm excited. But what's sad is I think Disney with some recent movies, at least that I've seen, like I watched part of Turning Red. I watched all of Elemental and I just wasn't super impressed by those movies. That is another hot take. They weren't to the same level as like Monsters, Inc. and Inside Out and Up. Like Monsters, Inc., Inside Out and Up

are amazing movies, such complex storylines. It's entertaining for adults and kids. Whoever made those movies did an incredible job to make a product that can not only be consumed by a little kid and someone who's 80

And people our age. Like, it's just, it's amazing that it's that good of a story and reaches so many different audiences. I love it. And I just think some of the newer stuff that I've seen, I haven't been as impressed by. No, that is so true. I totally agree. As much as I hate to say it, Disney movies are not up to the same level as they once were. Recently.

Hot take. I thought the movie Lightyear was really good. I really did like the movie Lightyear. Yeah, I also liked it. That one didn't get good reviews, but I thought it was great. It was good. I would love a sequel. Whoa, hot take. Married people are people in a relationship can have friends of the opposite sex that are single. Yes, but like not best friends.

Like i'm friends. I mean so like we have friends that are couples But like you're not catching me hanging out with like me and bella don't like just hang out one-on-one No, this says that are single. Oh single again Like yes But it would just be weird if I was hanging out with some single woman all the time That would be weird if you were hanging out with like you and some single guy all the time That would be weird. So what boundaries would you have? Like like can you I don't know if it's in a group setting. I don't think it says weird So you can't hang out one-on-one probably

I'm thinking that would be. We haven't run into this. We're like, one of us has wanted to do that. Actually, this is really interesting. We're pretty like, I mean, we trust each other a lot. Neither one of us has done anything to even slightly question that trust. But recently you had a call with someone that was also married, but it was more, you were more going to be talking to the wife. Oh,

Oh, you're right. And so you had me be on the call. Yeah. Because you, I thought that was like very, very respectful of you. Well, thank you. I just felt weird about like having a one-on-one call with her. So I was just like, let's have a call with all of us. So it was like me and you and her and her husband. That was very respectful of you. And it was very, it was good. I didn't see, I personally didn't think it was necessary, but I think that was really nice of you to think of that. Or were you trying to make her husband more comfortable or me? Both. Yeah. I think it was both.

Very nice of you. Yeah, I don't... I actually disagree with this hot take. I do think that married people or people in a relationship should pretty much avoid having... Okay, friends is such a broad term. Like, I don't think I should be texting a single guy...

that's like my age all the time like i could shoot him a text to work out some details but i'm not gonna just shoot a single guy a text it's like hey what's up hope you're doing well like yeah i don't think that's appropriate yeah especially hanging out one-on-one no yeah there's no you don't catch me like texting women one-on-one like i mostly just don't want to i'll text my boys one-on-one you know i'm a homies you know we do that from time to time mostly i just don't have the

desire. I don't really like guys that much. Who are your homies that you like to text, Abby? I got some homies. You got some homies? Yeah. My mom is my homie. Your mama? You talk to your mama every day. And she lives with us. Well, she does live with us now. Every day she lives at the house. But you used to. Probably a lot. Yeah. This one we can get down with. Having your dogs out is not a crime. Let's take our socks off right now. Everybody, please stop

Stop commenting about our feet on the podcast. We're proud of them. Maybe we need to trim our toenails. Wait, did they say that? No, I didn't see any comments like that. Oh, gosh. I actually put socks on today because I noticed that I probably should trim my toenails. So then I wanted to cover them up. Oh, gosh. Now give me my sock back. Now I'm thinking I should inspect them before they're on the internet. I think your toes are cute. I can see. They're like half painted. You got some pink going on there. Yeah, the last time I painted them, I was still like...

not even close to having on. After a wedding, you didn't, you didn't like take off the toenail polish, the nail polish on your toenails for like six months. And it just like slowly faded away. Hot take, you don't need to change your toenail polish until less than 50% of your nails are covered. Ketchup is acceptable to eat on steak. Absolutely not. If it's a good steak, it shouldn't need it. Ketchup on a steak?

I can see A1. I've put A1 on a steak before. I don't like A1. Don't put ketchup on a steak. Come on. What if it's like a really dry steak? I'm not even a steak. You should just don't even eat the steak. Eat chicken. That's true. Yeah, I think you shouldn't be putting ketchup on steak. Okay, I'm trying to do this again. You're so not flexible. I know. I have some hot takes that I just like thought of on my own. All of these are really going to ruffle some feathers. And I'm just gonna say I have friends that have...

these and I think they're beautiful people but I still have my opinions on these. I think that anyone that has eyelash extensions would look better without eyelash extensions. Dang. You just offended half of our viewers. I sure hope not. We can have different opinions.

I just don't think that you're saying that as a woman who has incredible eyelashes that are natural and very long So I feel like you're coming at that from a different perspective. Well, thank you You do have really nice the fact that your eyelashes are completely real and that long and luscious and beautiful is Incredible. Thank you, but I'm even talking about people that might have like short or thinner lashes or straight lashes I just

think that they get too bulky on people's eyes and then you can't fully see their eyes like the beauty of their natural eyes. I could see that. I could see how like the really like the really big eyelashes you know the ones I'm talking about where it's just like yeah but they're all clearly fake. I haven't seen one where I'm like oh that looks extremely natural. Really? Maybe we're just more into the natural look.

Maybe. But makeup isn't natural and women wear that. Exactly. I like mascara. I guess makeup's gotten so widely used and accepted, we just accept it as natural these days. This hot take says breakfast foods should not be a thing. Only lunch and dinner foods.

Heck no! Heck no. We love our brunch. I wake up hungry. We've had some really great times and memories made over brunch. And when Abby and I get brunch, we like to split a sweet and a savory option. And at a local place in Arizona called Snooze, they have this pancake order called the Flight. Honey, it's not local. They have a chain. It's a chain. And they have it locally here in Arizona.

And we'll get the flight and you get three different styles of pancakes and they're delicious. We'll get like a cinnamon roll one. We'll get a French toast one. It's actually not even a pancake. It's just French toast. The OMG French toast. The OMG French toast. And then what do we get for the third one? It's a wild card. We might get the seasonal one. We might get.

Yeah. And then we get a breakfast burrito to go with it. So then like the fact that you would want to get rid of that just breaks my heart, honestly. Well, here's Matt. What's the fun? What's the interesting thing about me related to breakfast foods? I don't know. I don't know what you what are you trying to say? Come on, you know me. The interesting thing about you, you like you like to drink coffee in the mornings. I don't know. That's not interesting. You we always eat the same amount.

We do. That's also interesting. We do. Okay, nice. I'm really impressed with that, by the way. Thank you. You can eat as much food as me. Thank you. I've always been known for eating a ton of food and you eat as much food as I do. So that's really impressive. Thank you. And you look amazing. I'm flattered. Can you give me a hint? I have really no idea. It's related to breakfast foods, even if it's late in the day. Even if it's late in the day. Oh, the first meal of the day for Abby Howard has to be breakfast. I cannot, like, even if it's like one o'clock.

And we're like going to eat for the first time that day for whatever reason. It has to be a breakfast item. Could you, okay, could you eat like an egg and then be like, okay, that's my breakfast and then immediately eat lunch? Yeah, yeah, yeah. If it breaks the seal. Abby, that's weird. That's really weird. I'm sorry.

Mentally, I just need to have Rick's shoot first. Okay, hot take. Which Pop-Tart is the best Pop-Tart? I don't... Hot take Pop-Tarts are disgusting. Wrong. The brown sugar cinnamon are by far the best Pop-Tarts in existence. The only one I can get behind is the hot fudge sundae. No. No. S'mores, hot fudge sundae. And it has to be heated up. No. Especially the sprinkles ones. Like, if you get the strawberry Pop-Tart...

Just throw that in the trash. Nobody wants that. I could go for a hot fudge sundae pop tart actually right now. Nobody wants that. Brown sugar cinnamon. Wait, is brown sugar cinnamon different than the, they might have like a maple one or something. Dude, do you know what I ate for lunch like every day in junior high? That was the first time we could get all the cart options. Why did you get? I'd get a hot fudge sundae pop tart.

a soft pretzel with cheese and like a cookie and look how amazing your body looks i ate seriously you look so good body built by hot fudge sundae pop tarts i haven't eaten one of those in a long time we should do that we should eat like nostalgic foods i just wanted to say thank you to you guys for streaming my song on spotify i just hit 230 000 streams on falling in love babe that's

That's amazing. So thank you. Thank you to Abby for like being my biggest cheerleader. I don't know. I just, I just feel very grateful and very thankful. So guys, please do it for me. Listen to Matt's music for me because my ultimate dream is to be his groupie. I want to be your groupie too. Whatever you decide to do, whatever passion project you decide to pursue, I want to root for you. Whether that's a book or whether that's getting back into acting again, I want to do, I want to be that for you too. Okay.

So I really appreciate that. And I feel like that, isn't that the mark of a true friend when someone just like roots for you and cheers for you and wants you to succeed at everything you do? Babe, I'll ride with you till the end. I will physically fight people for you if you want. But you were like my best friend like through and through. And so I feel, it just feels good to have that. So do it for my homie, guys.

Listen to his music. It's also really good and it's going to make you feel all cozy inside. Like it's like you just had your first sip of a latte in the morning. I'm really excited. We have more music coming too.

A week from today, I'm actually recording a new song. So from, yeah, the time, by the time they're hearing this, I will already have recorded the song. And I don't even know anything about this song. It's a surprise to me. I know. I'm excited. We'll be surprised together, guys. Yeah. Thank you to everybody that's following me on Spotify and streamed the song. And I guess, actually, you can listen to the song literally anywhere. Yeah.

Like even Apple music and stuff. Yeah, but it'll be Pandora. I think it's on Pandora. If your grandma still listens on Pandora, you can tell her to go listen to Falling in Love by Matt Howard on Pandora. That's awesome. Okay. Thank you guys. You're awesome. Now back to the episode. Isn't it interesting how kids can eat like crap and like look so good? Because I think it really catches up with you more as an adult. But then again, I think the adults that work out more, hot take, they're not as good.

tend to just look better because like you work out a ton. Like you could like, Abby, you can eat whatever you want because you work out so much. Thank you. You burn like 500 calories every time you work out. It's crazy. I like to work out and I like to eat. But the thing about me is when I work out, I just feel good about myself and then I'm like, man, I want to take good care of my body so I end up eating healthier when I work out.

That's a normal. It's a double positive because I'm not going to start eating brown sugar cinnamon pop tarts when I just went to the gym for an hour. I want to eat broccoli and eat like salmon. This is my hot take. Every food can fit into a healthy diet in moderation. Amen. And that's why when you see what I eat today, you're going to see me eat cookies and you're going to see me have full fat milk and cheese and things like that because I just think that you don't need to cut out.

to cut out whole categories of food. And bread. Why are people trying to get rid of bread? It's like, oh, it's a carb. Get rid of it. Oh, avocado has fat in it. Get rid of avocado. Avocado is freaking great for you. That's such a healthy thing to eat. You're so right. And like, oh, fruit. Like if you have a smoothie with real fruit in it, it's sugar. It's like it's fruit. Yeah. Okay. I totally agree. Could not agree more. I just think that cutting out whole categories of food is just unless there's a medical need like that, then that's a totally different scenario. Yeah.

then it's just not necessary. Like, have a well-rounded

rounded diet that includes broccoli and that includes yeah i don't know and and look i totally respect people that have decided to do go vegan or go vegetarian i guess that's different yeah for personal beliefs and i totally respect that i do think that we need to treat animals better on our planet i do think that we probably consume too much i think we should eat less and we could probably eat less meat probably better for us better for our planet but at the same time i find it so fascinating how we're seeing trends in like the carnivore diet and

And then we're seeing on the opposite end, like the vegan diet. It's like, why can't we just have a balanced plate? Right. Or like, why can't you just eat everything in moderation and just maybe only eat meat for one meal a day and have a vegetarian breakfast and lunch? Like baby steps. Yeah. Because typically I have a vegetarian breakfast.

I'm not eating any meat for breakfast. - No, yeah, we don't eat meat for breakfast. - I could be better about having a vegetarian lunch, but like maybe I could do tofu. - You know what we should be having for lunch? - You used to make really fire tofu bowls and I miss those. With like peanut sauce. - Oh, it's been a while. Yeah, I should make those. - So good. - We should be having the Jennifer Aniston salad for lunch. - Yes.

I have the ingredients to make it. What if we go vegetarian for breakfast and lunch and then we can eat meat for dinner? Here's the other thing. I'm very hesitant. I like that. I think that should be the goal. But I'm always very hesitant to be like, okay, I'm not doing this. This is my rules for my diet. Just because I feel like you miss out on so much life when you make hard rules around food for yourself. True. Like when we're traveling and we had for breakfast Taco Bell. Like, totally fine. Okay. Actually, hot take.

the taco bell california burrito add steak is the best breakfast it's not california burrito it's the crunch wrap the crunch wrap it's called like the california crunch wrap it was incredible and that did have meat in it so maybe i shouldn't encourage that if we're gonna eat vegetarian that's what i'm saying hard and fast rules like that but then a good goal of is like to consume less meat then that is a good goal i don't know i think that

You can get in an unhealthy space in your head, in your relationship with food, if you start making hard and fast rules like that. Yeah. So that's my take on diets. Hot take. I think you're a very intelligent woman. You do? I think you're really smart. Thank you. I didn't realize that when I was first attracted to you. And then as I got to know you, I was like, wow, this woman is so smart. And I want to have a wife who raises my children. And she's very intelligent. And then we're going to have smart kids. You know what I'm saying? Hot take. Brains are...

better than looks when it comes to finding a partner to spend the rest of your life with. You would have somebody that like looks good though. I feel like you want somebody that you can like look at every day. Okay, I'm saying that as someone that has an extremely attractive husband so it's like

like not but we've been talking about this like you would get you get bored of looks so fast i don't know i mean like what there's like some statistic about like intimacy and marriage and how it like makes up like one percent of your time the other 99 of your time is we're not talking about intimacy we're talking about looks i know but like intimacy plays into looks like people the reason people are into looks is because they want to sleep with that person well that's just because you're really visual like i feel like women tend to or at least for myself i'm more into like emotional connection yeah

Guys are very visual. I don't know why. That's just, yeah. Guys are definitely more. In general. I feel like a dude could pick up. Like there's some ugly dudes out there that have like a very attractive wife because of like crazy confidence. Because women are so attracted to confidence in guys. So true. Yeah. Should I tell my hot take? But I don't want to hurt guys' feelings. What is it? That 99% of guys look better with a shirt on.

I don't think you actually mean that. No, I do. I feel like you mean like 75% of guys. No, I mean 99%. Because I can see how like, look, like I'm with the whole dad thing. Like maybe I should wear a shirt a little bit more. No, you agree with our shirt. I don't look as good as I used to with my shirt off. And I'm trying to go back to the gym, you know, get back in the grind. You look great. And I think that any guy should wear what they feel most comfortable in. I'm just saying looks wise. You.

You feel like 99% of men should just put a shirt on. I don't want to get myself too deep in that. You're going to walk yourself into a void there. I'm going to be careful and just end it there. But I think you look great shirtless.

hot take hot take oh here's my hot take i don't think it should be illegal for women to be topless in public i think that is i think that's silly okay i'm gonna go outside right now and take my shirt off and that and we talked about this that would i selfishly wouldn't want you to do that but at the same time i don't think that should be illegal i don't think you should be criminalized for just showing like just your body but do you think nowadays people are really getting like tickets for that probably i'm sure it's happened

Other hot take, the drinking age should be 18. Okay, that is actually true. If you can serve in the military, you should be able to drink. Totally agree. And vote. You can serve and vote. I just think that's silly. I feel like over- And everyone's drinking anyway, right? Everyone's already drinking anyway. And maybe there's a better way to go about it. People get this crazy excitement about, oh my gosh, I'm breaking the law. I'm 20 years old going to this college party and drinking. And it's like-

If it wasn't illegal, I don't think it would be as cool. I really don't. I feel like the fact that it's so widely done and it is illegal makes kids want to do it more. Because like, this is crazy. This is exciting. Like, we're breaking the law. So I feel like if we actually change the law, I really do believe that drinking would go down. Or binge drinking. Maybe drinking wouldn't go down, but binge drinking, which I think can lead to a lot of problems. Or maybe like an alcohol addiction. Yeah, drunk driving incidents.

I just think there's a reason why in other countries where the drinking age is 18, like in Europe, they seem to have a better approach when it comes to alcohol. I want to see the statistics on that. The party scene isn't as big there, I would say. What is interesting, though, about Europe, though, is when we went to Italy, all the young people smoke, and that was so sad. I'm like, why are young people smoking here? Cigarettes, yeah. Cigarettes are big in Italy. When we were in Italy, we saw so many young people smoking. My hot take is that alcohol in general is so overrated. I don't know.

I don't give a rip about alcohol. That's true. I will say though, it's a slippery slope to fall down because I think like sometimes if I'm feeling anxious or just I'm stressed out or I have a bad headache from a long day, especially now with two kids, like it's like, man, I could really use a beer right now. Or man, I could really go for a glass of wine right now. See, that doesn't make me feel better. But I think it's... A bath makes me feel better. Yeah. Yeah.

I think there's other ways. I think there's other ways to cope with the challenges of life that aren't alcohol related. But I think alcohol gives you like an immediate release for a lot of people. And that's why it's such an easy. That's sad. An easy substance to go to. Yeah. I just think alcohol in general, overrated. I don't.

always rather have a latte. Yeah, I feel like it is helpful for young people. Like for us, we didn't buy alcohol in college because it was expensive and we wanted to save our money. So we never developed that habit. So we didn't really develop that habit. I think it's still possible for us to develop a habit. Well, also, you cannot undermine how your community lives

like influences your your own habits like you we're not friends with people that drink much totally but if we were we'd probably be more inclined to drink a lot it's just yeah that's just a good lesson for everyone just when we moved to hawaii we became friends with a lot of people that were lds and they don't drink in that religion and so that really influenced that influenced us like even if i wanted to have a beer i'm not gonna like drink a beer and be the only dude drinking a beer at a hangout interesting yeah

My mom always said, choose your friends wisely for soon you will see that who you are with is who you will be. That is good. That's so true. Right? I love that. And that's why I mean, I don't know. I just try to gravitate towards people that I find to be really awesome people, whether that's intelligence or just giving back or creative. Yeah, creative. Like if you just surround yourself with the right people, I feel like that

Definitely influences you. Yeah. And while we're on the topic, if you want to be our friend. Yes. We're looking for friends. I've meant to do a story post on my Instagram story to be like, hey, are there any dads in Arizona or any dads in Phoenix that like to skateboard? Because I would love to have a community of dads that like to skate. It's so hard to find community online.

when you have little babies and when you're when you move somewhere and when you move somewhere when you leave when you leave your community and go somewhere that you don't know anybody it's it's it's tough so if you also have little babies or you are in a new place tell us how you find community because we're looking for that too i've heard that like facebook groups are even good but i've never i don't really use facebook yeah we could maybe there's a isn't there an app for like finding friends i think doesn't bumble have that i feel like we don't know anything about bumble

Yeah, I've heard they have that. Maybe we should get on Bumble. I feel like even in our neighborhood, though, I feel like we could be better about it. I feel like they do need to happen organically. Yeah. I'm not going to just be using an app. But I think you have to be intentional as an adult. For sure. In college, it's so easy when you're...

in the dorms or like in a house with people that you decided to live with. Like it's easy just to have people to hang out with all the time, but you have to be really intentional about your relationships when you're older and schedule it. Like we scheduled last night, we hung out with our new friends, Steve and Megan, and we had to put it on the calendar two weeks in advance. So I think like when you're, when you're married, you have kids, you're working, you need to have things on the calendar to make sure that they actually happen. And I think you shouldn't, to add to your point, I think that you shouldn't be

like feeling like you can't be the person to take that initiative to like plan something to say hey we should hang out or hey can I give you my number maybe we can get together sometime because sometimes I would just be like sad and be like man no one wants to hang out with me like I'm so bummed out and I'm like wait I didn't ask anybody to hang out with me like why am I just sitting here feeling sad and expecting everyone to come here and just like come to me well I've

Honestly, honey, I think that's because you're so likable and I think you're so funny and just a fun personality that I think your whole life people have reached out to you and wanted to hang out with you because you are just a very likable person. And I think now as an adult, even though you still are that way, it's just...

more challenging to make those hangouts happen. So now you're learning that you do have to reach out and plan those and schedule those. No, I love it. We got to work on that. Hey, we can have friends. We're going to do this. Yeah, we can have friends. We can be best friends and we can have other friends. That's right. I like that. That's healthy. Yeah. I love that. That was some good hot takes, babe. Yeah. I'm nervous about this one. I'm actually sweating. It's so hot in here. Hopefully you guys weren't offended by any of those. And hey, if you have any new hot takes in the comments, let us know. Anyways.

Three, two, one. Peace out, dudes.