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So ... Should We Ban TikTok?

2022/10/3
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Kara Swisher:对TikTok的担忧主要集中在数据安全和内容审查方面,认为中国政府可能利用TikTok进行间谍活动和宣传,并对平台的算法和用户数据访问表示担忧。她还批评了杰克·多西在推特问题上的不作为,以及扎克伯格对Meta公司困境的应对方式。 Nayeema Raza:她关注的是埃隆·马斯克收购推特之前的短信交流,以及杰克·多西和其他科技大佬对这次收购的态度。她还分析了Meta公司裁员的原因和扎克伯格的应对策略。 Vanessa Pappas:她否认TikTok对美国构成威胁,并强调TikTok正在采取措施保护用户数据,提高透明度,并应对内容审查方面的挑战。她还解释了TikTok的组织结构和与中国政府的关系,并反驳了有关TikTok操纵算法和散布虚假信息的指控。她还指责Meta公司对TikTok进行抹黑。 Kara Swisher: 她详细阐述了对TikTok的担忧,包括数据安全、内容审查、算法透明度以及中国政府潜在的干预。她认为这些问题构成了国家安全风险,并强调了对间谍活动和宣传的担忧。她还分析了科技公司内部的权力动态和决策过程,批评了杰克·多西和马克·扎克伯格在应对公司挑战方面的不足。她认为TikTok的流行与其算法密切相关,并对算法的透明度提出了质疑。 Nayeema Raza: 她主要关注的是硅谷权力精英的运作方式,以及他们对科技公司发展和收购的影响。她分析了埃隆·马斯克收购推特前后科技大佬之间的短信交流,并对杰克·多西和埃隆·马斯克的个人特点和行为模式进行了评价。她还关注了Meta公司裁员事件,并对扎克伯格的应对策略进行了分析。 Vanessa Pappas: 她详细解释了TikTok为解决数据安全和内容审查问题所采取的措施,包括与Oracle合作存储数据、设立内容咨询委员会、向研究人员开放API访问以及与Oracle合作审核内容审核和推荐系统。她强调TikTok是一个独立运营的实体,并否认中国政府对其运营的干预。她还反驳了有关TikTok散布虚假信息和操纵算法的指控,并指责Meta公司进行抹黑宣传。

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Vanessa Pappas addresses concerns about TikTok's data security and content influence, emphasizing the company's efforts to protect user data and increase transparency.

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Kara loves air fryer TikToks. But she only dares to scroll through them on a burner phone, as she tells TikTok’s Chief Operating Officer, Vanessa Pappas. 

As the social media platform has gone gangbusters – accumulating over a billion monthly users globally – concerns have emerged about TikTok’s ownership structure and roots in China. The U.S. government has questions about what data the app is amassing, whether that data can be accessed by the Chinese Communist Party and if the platform is a tool for espionage or foreign interference and propaganda. Kara has those questions too. And she asks Pappas all of them.

Before the interview, Kara and Nayeema talk about the newsmakers of the day. They scan through the Elon Musk text messages released in the Twitter-Musk proceedings and explore what the texts reveal about Silicon Valley’s powerful elite – including Twitter founder Jack Dorsey. They also discuss recent layoffs at Meta – and how Mark Zuckerberg will navigate the company’s recent struggles without his former right-hand exec, Sheryl Sandberg. 

You can find Kara and Nayeema on Twitter @karaswisher and @nayeema. 

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