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Kids and Phones: Moral Panic or Time to Panic? with Jonathan Haidt

2024/4/18
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卡拉·斯威舍是一位知名的媒体评论家和播客主持人,专注于科技和政治话题的深入分析。
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Jonathan Haidt: 海特认为智能手机和社交媒体是导致青少年,特别是女孩,心理健康危机的主要原因。他认为,智能手机的推送通知、应用商店和高速互联网等功能,使得青少年能够随时随地连接到网络,这导致了社交剥夺、睡眠剥夺、注意力分散和成瘾等问题。他还认为,青春期大脑发育的敏感性使得孩子们更容易受到负面信息的影响,而社交媒体放大了这种影响。此外,海特还认为,社交媒体对女孩的影响大于男孩,因为它放大了女孩之间的关系性攻击。他提出了四个解决方案:中学禁止使用手机、提高使用社交媒体的最低年龄、16岁前禁止使用社交媒体以及增加现实世界中的自由玩耍、独立性和责任感。 Kara Swisher: Swisher 对 Haidt 的观点表示部分赞同,但也表达了担忧,担心对社交媒体的过度简化理解可能会导致糟糕的监管。她还质疑了 Haidt 的一些研究方法,并提出了其他可能导致青少年心理健康问题的因素,例如新冠疫情、大规模枪击事件和气候变化。 Aaron Brown: Brown 对 Haidt 书中引用的研究的质量提出了质疑,认为许多研究存在缺陷,并且缺乏能够令人信服地证明社交媒体与青少年心理健康之间存在因果关系的证据。他认为 Haidt 混淆了相关性和因果关系,并且过分强调了社交媒体的作用。

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Jonathan Haidt discusses his book 'The Anxious Generation' and the debate over whether social media is causing a mental health crisis among teens, especially girls.

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Is Gen Z’s mental health in decline because their “phone-based childhood” has flooded them with anxiety and ruined their sleep? Or is there a more complex mix of factors at play? Jonathan Haidt makes his case for the former explanation in his latest book, The Anxious Generation

While many people intuitively agree with his argument that phones and social media are ruining kids, some researchers are accusing Haidt of coming up with a grand overarching theory that isn’t supported by the data. Kara brings the moral psychologist and NYU professor onto the podcast to discuss his ideas, the criticism he’s gotten, and his proposed solutions to the problem. 

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