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Cord Jefferson on Making American Fiction

2024/2/15
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Cord Jefferson: 影片改编自Percival Everett的小说《Erasure》,小说与他当时的个人经历产生强烈共鸣,这促使他将小说改编成电影。他与作者Percival Everett进行沟通,并最终获得了改编权。在创作过程中,他将电影的卖点定位于讽刺,而家庭元素作为补充。他与电影主角Monk的生活经历有很多重合之处,这使得他能够深入理解角色。他曾是一名记者,厌倦了持续报道种族主义相关事件,这促使他转向影视创作,并希望能够更全面地展现少数族裔的故事。他认为好莱坞在种族和身份认同问题上有所进步,但仍有很长的路要走,许多公司因为风险过高而拒绝投资他的电影。在电影中,他将小说中的人物具象化,以更具视觉冲击力的方式呈现写作过程。他希望电影避免陷入“体面政治”的窠臼,不谴责任何黑人或黑人艺术家,而是更关注那些掌握权力的人为何热衷于重复讲述特定类型的少数族裔故事。他不责备个体艺术家,而是关注那些在体制内做出决策的人。他创作电影时没有考虑观众反应,而是专注于创作最好的电影。他认为电影中的人物并非不可救药,人们可以从他们的不足之处学习。他喜欢创作真实和具有代入感的作品,不局限于喜剧或戏剧的特定类型。电影宣传推广阶段是他最难熬的时期。他认为演员和编剧的罢工取得了尽可能强的协议,但斗争将会继续。他不担心AI会影响他的创作,他将继续坚持自己的创作方式。他担心AI技术中的偏见,特别是对执法和司法系统的影响。他目前正在创作三个电影剧本和两个电视剧本,并希望继续创作艺术作品。 Kara Swisher: 她与Cord Jefferson就电影《美国小说》的创作理念、社会意义以及好莱坞的现状进行了深入探讨,并提出了关于AI技术对电影工业影响等问题。 Jesse Armstrong: 他向Cord Jefferson提出了关于电影制作中最困难部分的问题,Cord Jefferson认为电影宣传推广阶段是他最难熬的时期。

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Cord Jefferson discusses his initial discovery of the book 'Erasure' by Percival Everett and how it resonated deeply with him, leading him to adapt it into the film 'American Fiction'.

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Writer and director Cord Jefferson’s first feature film, American Fiction, has been nominated for five Oscars, including Best Picture and Best Adapted Screenplay. Jefferson was once a journalist, but shifted into TV and film a decade ago, working on shows including *Succession, The Good Place, *and Watchmen, for which he won an Emmy for his writing. Kara and Cord discuss why Percival Everett’s book Erasure) spoke to him so personally, how satire helped him break out of the “race beat,” and what projects he’s got in the pipeline.

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