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The Biggest Real Estate Rule Change in Decades & Presidential Candidates' Economic Plans

2024/8/19
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A class action settlement with the National Association of Realtors has introduced significant changes to the home buying process in the US. Buyers now have more control over agent compensation, potentially leading to lower commissions and increased transparency. While this shift aims to empower buyers and improve affordability, its impact on home prices remains uncertain, with mortgage rates playing a more significant role.
  • Buyers must now sign a written contract with an agent before house viewings.
  • Agent compensation is now negotiable, potentially lowering commissions.
  • The change aims to empower buyers and improve transparency.
  • Impact on housing affordability is uncertain, with mortgage rates being a bigger factor.

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Good morning, Brew Daily Show. I'm Neil Freiman. And I'm Toby Howell. Today, the way you buy a house just got a big overhaul, but will it become less of a headache? Then there's a surprising company at the center of the latest MPOX outbreak that you need to know about. It's Monday, August 19th. Let's ride. ♪

This always blows my mind, but here we are on August 19th and well over half of American kids are back in school. According to a Pew survey from last year, 55% of public school districts are back in session as of today, with many beginning as early as the first week of August.

If this seems normal to you, then you probably grew up in the South where school comes back from summer break in the middle of the summer. But if heading back to school in August seems like the weirdest thing in the world, then you probably grew up in the North like me, where we'd rarely go back to school before Labor Day. Toby, why are we depriving Southern kids of their summer?

Well, this got me thinking about my own high school career. And when did I go back to school? And I always remember basing it off of my best friend growing up. His birthday was August 1st. It would always be right before school started. And so he wouldn't get like, you know, the whole school birthday party. So I think we are mid-August, but I don't know. A lot of people say that it just comes down to network effects in certain regions that it just becomes easier to adopt what

your neighbor doing or a nearby school because you can recruit teachers easier. But I don't know why the North waits so long. Yeah, in New England, it's like Labor Day happens and then you go back to school the day after. And it's very strange to me to go back in the middle of August when ostensibly it's still the summer and it's very hot and you need to air condition all of these schools. So you have that added advantage

burden, so I just don't quite get it. Minnesota, you're required to start after Labor Day as well. So you're pro late start. I like that. I am pro late start. August is the summer. You shouldn't go back to school during August.

Major changes have arrived to the complicated and expensive process of buying a home in the United States with the goal of making it slightly less complicated and expensive. On Saturday, a class action settlement with the National Association of Realtors went into effect, and it rips up the playbook on how real estate agents are compensated.

So,

So what is the new model? Well, the most consequential change for anyone buying a home is you must sign a written contract with an agent before they show you a house. And how you pay that broker is up to you and them to negotiate. It could be a commission or a flat fee or an hourly rate. The big difference is it's in your court, not the seller's. Critics of the old system hope this new one will lead to lower commissions, shift power away from agents and add transparency to what's been a murky process.

Obviously, a lot of real estate agents have had this day circled on their calendar because it totally upends the industry. The biggest ripple effect from talking to a lot of industry insiders is that the middle-of-the-pack agents are probably going to go goodbye. Maybe they don't know how to properly articulate the value that they're bringing to you as an agent, but a lot of longtime agents kind of took it in stride. They talked to Axios and said,

Honestly, the field is growing too big. Season pros are still going to make more money because there will be fewer realtors out there who don't know what they're doing. So you're seeing these mixed reactions from realtors, but a lot of the more seasoned ones are saying the cream is going to rise to the top. And there's already been a slowdown in this industry, somewhat of an exodus, because home sales have kind of frozen over with mortgage rates.

so high already. I mean, last year, 72,000 people left the profession. Nearly half of the 2,000 agents surveyed in this survey by the Consumer Federation of America said they sold fewer than two homes.

in 2023. So there's just not a lot of work out there. And now the fact that this new model has emerged where it's very a la carte with a buyer. So you have to go pitch your services. You work with them to develop a contract and then you go out and buy a home. It's much more, the process has sort of shifted to

is empowering the buyer, which is what this is intended to do. But it creates a little more legwork on behalf of the realtors. So what do you need to know if you are selling a home right now? You're probably actually going to see some immediate relief because hypothetically, this should push those commission rates down. It should cut that 5% to 6% number closer to the 2.5% to 3% number. We're already seeing those rates fall. Also, though, we do have to just shout out real estate agents here for a second because

They still are a very integral process because it's a very difficult process to navigate selling a home. It's very overwhelming. You can technically go and list your house for sale by owner, but between July 22, 2023, only 7% of home sales were sold by owners without the help of an agent. So clearly there's still going to be a world where agents are important because agents

It's just a confusing process in general. Yeah, so what's going to happen now is if you go look for a house, you have to go contact a realtor, get this agreement signed. And if you're a buyer, like I don't know what kind of agreement I have to sign this contract that's binding me to a particular broker. This is very confusing and new to me. A bunch of consumer groups signed

have created draft templates that they put online you can see I went to them in the morning brew newsletter this morning so you can go click on those and if you're buying a house you can just use one of those templates with which you know keep a buyer's interest in mind meanwhile if you sold a home in the last five years you could be entitled to a slice this settlement I also put that link in the news letter or you can google am I entitled to the settlement and you should see whether you are because I don't know you might not get a ton of money because it depends on how many people

are claiming this class action. But $418 million is going to get split up. The final point here is what is this going to do for housing affordability? We know housing is super expensive and the accusations against the NAR say that these high real estate commissions for brokers are inflating housing prices because they're baked into the sale price of the house. So the hope is that

Lower commissions will lead to lower home prices. Experts say, yeah, that's great in a hypothetical world. But really, the most important thing for lower housing prices is that those mortgage rates, which recently have come down, but they're still sitting at 6.5 percent for a 30 year fixed rate mortgage. So anything that happens within this commission world is kind of paled in comparison by what happens in the mortgage world.

The presidential race has been a little light on economic policies so far, but just before the weekend, both candidates gave voters a much clearer look at their economic plans should they win the nomination. Kamala Harris focused much of her pitch around helping you out with your basic needs. She promised the first ever federal ban on grocery price gouging, which sounds good on paper, but left

some economists scratching their heads on how exactly that would work in an industry where margins are razor thin. She also took aim at housing affordability by promoting the construction of 3 million new units, promising a tax break to developers of starter homes. Probably the best word to sum up these proposals is promise.

populace. And many actually echo promises laid out by Trump and Vance, who also want to boost housing supply and expand the maximum child tax credit. Trump also took shots at Harris for copying his plan to end federal taxes on tips, which he unveiled first. But Neil, obviously, these are just proposals right now that will need to make it through Congress should either be elected. But first, take us through some of the reactions to

Kamala nomics. Okay. So let's start with this price gouging. Obviously one, the most important thing for voters in this election by far, and it has been for the last two years is inflation. What, uh, what Harris is saying is she's blaming corporations for what has been called greed inflation. When inflation went up in the early days, she's accusing corporations of jacking up their prices and using that to their advantage to, to improve their margins.

Economists say this is not necessarily what happened. There's not a particular robust body of evidence that there was greedflation happening, but that is central to her ban on price gouging. The details are sparse of what this would mean, but she seems to want to authorize the FTC to impose large fines on grocery stores that impose, quote, excessive price hikes on customers. Economists

Generally, in favor of free markets, do not think that price caps or attacks on price gouging will work at all. And this was completely bashed by conservatives and Republicans saying that price caps would bring us back to a Soviet era type of an economy, because when you impose a cap on prices, if you are a company in that industry, you say, OK, well, I don't I can't make

as much money as I want on this. So I'm going to reduce my supply. I'm just not going to make as much stuff. And especially when it comes to groceries, that leads to shortages and bad news. So economists generally are opposed to price caps of any kind. And then if we go to the home building front, it kind of pairs nicely with our top story. But a lot of economists welcome the idea of trying to spur this home building surge. They cheered this expanded support for families with children. But

Also, you have to think about the downstream effects of this. Some say that if you are supporting these down payments, you could actually undermine affordability by just ratcheting up demand to an all-time high. Again, on paper, yes, everyone wants to expand housing supply. Everyone wants to make it so starter homes are more affordable. But there is just some of these effects that happen whenever you expand

introduce a benefit to someone looking for that starter home, that affects the entire market as a whole as well. Yeah, generally the Yimby community, which is the yes in my backyard, they applauded Harris' move to

build 3 million more homes because estimates show that the U.S. is short 7 million homes, and that has led to housing inflation. Why prices are so high is because there's a supply shortage. So alleviating that supply shortage is definitely top of mind for economists and people who think

we need to build more cut red tape. Meanwhile, neither Trump nor Harris has really, uh, explained how they're going to pay for their very expensive proposals. A lot of these involve a lot of government spending. And in Trump's case, uh,

widespread tax cuts and extension of his tax cuts. Estimates say that Harris's plan would cost $1.7 trillion to the deficit for over a decade. And then Trump's would also cost $1.6 trillion over a decade. Trump's big economic plan besides deregulation is any, he also made a big speech last week and he said that he wants to potentially

add tariffs of up to 20%. He had floated at 10% before on literally all imports. Economists say that also will lead to inflation because it is essentially a tax paid by consumers.

Last week, the stock of a little-known Danish vaccine maker called Bavarian Nordic jumped as high as 17%. But it's not another COVID wave that has investors looking into the company. It's an outbreak of MPOX. The World Health Organization declared a public health emergency over a large MPOX outbreak originating in the DRC last week, the second time in about

two years that MPOX's spread has spurred the WHO to raise its highest level of alarm. So far this year, more than 17,000 cases have been reported, with about 70% affecting people younger than 18. So it's put an unexpected spotlight on

Bavaria Nordic, which is now scrambling to get the EU's approval to extend the use of its vaccine to teenagers. You may have heard of MPOX, previously known as monkeypox, after a global outbreak back in 2022. But data from this recent outbreak suggests the virus has mutated and is now much better at spreading between humans, which has the global health community on edge. Neil, there are not a ton of specific

treatments approved for MPOCs due to just a lack of cases over time. So Bavarian Nordic is kind of the name to watch here. It really is. And they just applied for approval from the EU regulator to get their vaccine approved for 12 days.

for kids aged 12 to 17, because that's what this new strain, it seems to be affecting the most. So there are 20,000 suspected cases in the DRC. Two thirds of those are children. And of the 975 suspected deaths, three quarters are children. So

Getting the vaccine approved and sent over to the DRC for this age group is critical. And that approval also spurred another major stock gain. I mean, this company is doing what Moderna and Pfizer did back in 2020. It was up 19% on Friday. It has gained for nine straight days.

sessions. So the key is right now is, you know, getting people vaccinated before it escapes to the rest of the world. I mean, it already has last week also, in addition to that public health emergency by the WHO or the WHO, as you like to say.

The first case was found in Sweden, and officials say it is likely that we'll start seeing cases pop up in Europe and North America, though the risk to public health is generally low because of those robust public health systems in Western Europe and in the United States. It's also no accident that Bavarian Nordic is poised to meet demand for this vaccine because it actually they developed their shot for Mpox before.

uh, back after the nine 11 attacks, because the U S decided to stock up on all these vaccines. Um, uh,

specifically against smallpox as part of this anti-terrorism push. Then it's also just the Denmark pharma industry is just absolutely booming right now. Clearly, you have Novo Nordisk, who is this $600 billion behemoth who makes the GLP-1 drug, Ozempic. It's bigger than the entire Danish economy, but that just has these trickle-down effects. It's got a deeper bench than just Novo Nordisk. It has these other pharma companies that are doing very well, are poised to do very well, and are poised to meet

the latest threat that the WHO has their eye on. Up next, one company is trying to take on the App Store in an epic battle.

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The messy, years-long battle between Epic Games and Apple has reached Blake Lively-Justin Baldoni levels of dramatic after Epic decided to take on Apple's hegemonic App Store rule by launching an App Store of their own. It comes nearly four years after Apple kicked Fortnite out of its walled garden over a dispute relating to its 30% in-app

purchase fees. An ugly legal battle ensued spanning multiple countries, but in the U.S., a judge's decision mostly maintained the status quo in favor of Apple. Now though, Fortnite lovers can once again use their iPhone to download the game, but only if they don't like ice in their drinks. Under the EU's Digital Markets Act, Apple has to allow iPhone users to download other app stores like Epic's, but that right is restricted to users in the European Union. Neil, is this just Epic

being annoying and taking another shot at its rival or are their aspirations bigger than just being a petty? Oh, I don't think they're being annoying by this. I mean, CEO, the CEO of Epic Games, Tim Sweeney,

is on this quasi-religious quest to break up Apple's App Store monopoly. And he did this massive gambit four years ago when he intentionally provoked Apple to kick him off his App Store. And then he sued Apple and Google to bring this to the fore in the courts.

Four years later, I think this is a small win because there's finally a third-party app store on an iPhone, which is absolutely crazy to think about. We never would have expected that four to five years ago.

But is it a win? I mean, he lost a lot of revenue from Fortnite not being on iPhones for the last four years. This is only in the EU. He had to pay hundreds of millions of dollars in legal fees. So you're looking at this four years later and you're thinking, did Tim Sweeney and Epic Games' big gamble, big gambit pay off? And I think the question is,

Maybe a little bit? Maybe not monetarily, but you're right. I mean, because you said quasi-religious. It really has become this quest for Tim Sweeney to rail against what he sees as an unfair monopoly over the market. Their app store is a little bare bones right now, the one that Epic launched. It only has three games in it right now, Fortnite, Rocket League, Sideswipe, and Fall Guys. But apparently it's trying to hire developers. They are taking this seriously. It does have a...

relatively robust PC games marketplace as well. So it shows you maybe where they could get to. They are trying to undercut Apple on fees as well. Epic says its app store will take a maximum 12% commission on sales. Meanwhile, Apple's app store fees, those can reach up to that 30% number that Tim Sweeney has railed against. There's also just far too many opportunities

at stake for Apple to just roll over to. This is why they've been fighting it tooth and nail. I mean, Apple's App Store generated $1.1 trillion in sales in 2022. So it's now one of the company's main drivers of revenue. So clearly, it's not going to take it lightly when other app stores try to horn in on their territory. They've cited safety and privacy concerns, and they've also made it very, very difficult. Even though they now allow it in the European Union, it says it's

It takes a 15-step process to install Epic's new app store on their devices. They have all these things that they call scare screens that say, don't proceed forward with what you're doing. So it's not going gently into the good night. It doesn't like when someone horns in on its moneymaker, which is the app store. But Epic has clearly picked this battle and wants to see it through to the end.

Welcome to the winners of the weekend, the segment where Toby and I pick two things that are just simply crushing the game of life right now. I won the pre-show Hot Wheels race, so I get to go first. And my winner is a school in Boston with a pretty good hockey team and an admissions rate of 5.6%.

It's probably not the one you're thinking of. It is Northeastern University. Go Huskies. Northeastern, which hasn't been known to be an exclusive school, has lowered its admissions rate from 32% a decade ago to sub 6% last year, on par with some Ivies. And that it's now one of the hottest schools in America is no accident, according to the Wall Street Journal. It's because of Northeastern's co-op

programs. These programs allow students to alternate their coursework with up to 18 months of full-time paid work so that when you graduate, you don't have to fake having one to two years experience on your resume. This model of college, which is laser focused on prepping schools for their career after school, has become increasingly popular as Americans wonder whether they're getting their bang for their tuition buck.

A recent study found that five years after graduation, nearly half of workers with bachelor's degrees are in jobs that don't make use of their college credentials. That doesn't seem to be a problem at Northeastern, where applications have doubled in the last 10 years, bringing that admissions rate dramatically down.

This is a sweet gig for the students. I mean, come on. The Wall Street Journal talked to one student who got paid over $30 an hour to work at a tech company. Plus, he was receiving academic credit. Plus, he didn't have to pay tuition during those periods that he was working. So, in all, he worked 12 months full-time, got paid for it, took classes over six semesters,

and graduated after four years. It just makes a lot of sense on paper because the market employers are demanding that these employees come in with work-ready skills. They want them to be able to meet the demands of the workplace, but a lot of students are coming out unprepared. They're taking classes in majors that don't actually...

uh, help them in their eventual job roles. You, that 50% stat is, is pretty eyeopening there. So I think this is a win-win and Northeastern all the power to you. Yeah. Well, Northeastern is not the only one doing this, obviously. And another one, uh, another one that's big into co-op programs and getting their students, uh, you know, actual work experience besides a 10 week internship during the summer Drexel in Philadelphia is huge into this. Uh, and also Georgia tech, uh,

So many of their graduates go on to have work experience with or go on to work in the particular company that they had their co-op with. So you can imagine that so many college administrators are looking at the model that these three colleges are employing and they're like, well, we should bring it. The one knock on what's happening at Northwestern is tuition rates have just skyrocketed.

Northeastern. Oh, Northeastern. Sorry, I was like, what are you stopping for? That's going to make some— I know, I know. I don't want to confuse the two. Northeastern now costs $90,000 before financial aid up from $20,000 just a few decades ago. So, you know, as it's become more exclusive, it's lowered admissions rate, it's become less accessible to maybe people in the middle class who this would benefit the most.

My winner of the weekend is NSYNC. Now it might sound crazy, but it ain't no lie. Bye Bye Bye is back in the top 10 of the Billboard charts thanks to the latest Deadpool movie. Turns out that it helps to be a song prominently featured in a blockbuster that has made over $1 billion at the global box office.

Bye Bye Bye is actually the second oldest song to reach the U.S. top 10 after Kate Bush's Running Up That Hill got a similar pop culture bump from its role in Netflix's Stranger Things. It's pretty much A. Toby's trends at this point to see old songs get new life thanks to the small and big screens. Sophie Ellis Baxter's Murder on the Dance Floor from 2001 charted again thanks to Salt Pern. That's another example. But to everyone listening to this right now,

I do just want to apologize if I reminded you that Bye Bye Bye is considered an old song that came out 24 years ago now. I don't think it's an old song, but I've been listening to the radio a lot this weekend, actually, because I was in a car. And they play so much NSYNC and Backstreet Boys just on like 100.3 KISS FM. So it seems to be still very relevant. And this song is actually becoming extremely popular over the past few weeks.

because of this movie. And it wasn't just like a bit role in this movie. This movie, it was featured in the opening credits and actually kind of played a big role. But NSYNC is just getting so much more streams and they're making probably millions of dollars because of this. So they were like, this is amazing. Like Brian Reynolds approached us and asked if we could use this in his movie. And we were like, yeah, of course, because this industry is so big now. It's called Sync. And basically you use old media in new...

new TV and movies and there's whole companies dedicated to going up to artists and saying here like let me work with you I want to get your song into the latest Netflix show because it can be just an absolute huge boon to your streams your YouTube anything you want to do and NSYNC maybe wants to go on tour so this is another data point that says oh maybe we could sell out you know MSG or something it's happened all throughout history remember something in the way by Nirvana that when that was featured in the Batman that jumped up in streams again I

didn't know this about I Will Always Love You either. We're throwing it back here now. It was first written and recorded by Dolly Parton in 1973. I apologize if that was a well-known fact, but then Whitney Houston's version popped off because it was featured in The Bodyguard. Are you shaking your head? Did you know that? I did know that. Alrighty.

But I think many people may not exactly know. That speaks to the, you know, what we're talking about, how important it is to put these songs. The most, the best one recently was Murder on the Dance Floor. I know. Just because we had no, I don't think anyone had heard that song and no one would make fun of us for not hearing that song. But it's like a really good song. And now everyone knows of it because of Saltburn. Okay, here are the big events coming up this week.

The Democratic National Convention begins today in Chicago, and the Dems will try to do what the Chicago Bulls have failed to accomplish since 1998, use the United Center as a springboard for a trip to the White House. There will be speakers galore. President Biden and Hillary Clinton will address the crowd tonight. Barack Obama takes the stage on Tuesday, and on Thursday, Kamala Harris will close out the event by officially accepting the Democratic presidential

After an epic week on Wall Street last week, the S&P 500 had its best week of the year. The center of the economic universe turns to Jackson Hole, Wyoming. Yes, there in the shadow of the jagged Tetons, central bankers will meet for the Jackson Hole Symposium, an annual retreat for global economic officials to talk monetary policy and knock back whiskeys at the million dollar cowboy bar.

are. This event is actually a big deal, and Fed Chair Jerome Powell's keynote address on Friday will be one of the most closely watched speeches of the year for clues on the timing and pace of interest rate cuts. I know it's a big deal. I know it's very important. It affects the global economy, but I

I always am in it for the million-dollar cowboy bar. Those pictures are just beautiful. I've painted that facade before. It's just so iconic. So make good choices there, Jerome Powell, but also it's just a beautiful place to be. Also the fits from the global, from these monetary policy guys all over the world. They come in, they put on their cowboy hat looking like they're in Yellowstone. College football is back this Saturday with Week Zero, the soft opening of the season before the full slate of games the following week.

Not for me, Neil. I'm locked in on the Premier League. I'm not a CFP guy. All right. What about the Little League World Series? Can I interest you in that? That wraps up in Williamsport, Pennsylvania on Sunday. I say we road trip. Let's go. I would love to go. Let's go check it out. And then finally, Burning Man, which has had trouble selling tickets that we talked about last week, starts on Sunday. You going? We're not road tripping to that one. That one's out for me. I did see a...

a Burning Man pop-up in Williamsburg, though, selling outfits to go. So I was taking notes. I was like, okay, maybe demand is down, but there's still a lot of demand in hipsters' areas of Brooklyn for Burning Man. That was the most Brooklyn sense I've ever heard. I saw a Burning Man outfit pop up. It was very interesting. I was like, what's going on here?

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