Witch Goddess of the Woods with Pearl
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Welcome to another riveting episode of The Bald and the Beautiful featuring Trixie Mattel and myself. That's right. Who are you? It's party time. I'm Katya. Did I not mention that? No, you did. Thank you. No, thank you. We are in episode, I don't know, 1520? 1520, 75, who knows? Who's counting? Because we don't got time to count because we're just on the run. We're making money moves. Yeah. Yeah. And today we have a guest that honestly...

Probably the most qualified people to ever speak about beauty. That's true. We have... And listen, that is among a very dense roster of extremely qualified beauty people. Yeah. And this one, it's a deep field. It's a deep field. Somebody we had to hunt down.

I have. You don't even know the paper trail, the breadcrumbs, the mashinations, the schemes and the scams that I've enacted in order to wrangle this guest for the good, I mean, I would say the better part of 16, 17 months, even before we started the podcast. Bitch, it was a text. Yeah.

It was a text. She said, let's get it straight. I had to put in a text. I put in a text. I had written a letter. I read the letter over the text. It was a whole, it was, it was a lot. It was 17 return phone calls. Finally, I got in contact with her family and then they just, they gave me her personal number and then here we are with Pearl. Thank you so much for being here, Pearl. How are you?

I'm good, sis. Thank you. Thanks for having me. I feel like not very qualified to be here, but here I am. Are you kidding?

No, listen, the potency of your artistry and your talent. I'm just so irrelevant, but here I am with you two. Relevance. Relevance in the face of beauty. Girl. Nothing. I don't even know where to start because you are somebody whose work since we met you has truly been actually something I give a fuck to follow. If you don't mind, we're going to lick your ass for just a few moments. Yeah, I agree. Honestly. Yeah, yeah. What have you been up to?

I don't know. I've been kind of doing the housewife thing, but also just the...

I don't know. I feel like I'm in a secret window just working on my art in this cabin in the woods, but I'm also married, so I don't know. Just vary that. I envy your life. Oh, girl. These, I really do. These witch goddess of the woods pictures you have the nerve to post. They're so good. Oh, my God. Oh, you forgot to like and comment. Oh, my God.

This new thing you're doing with your eye too, like the two semicircles, like above and below. And you've been doing this highlight that looks like the Morticia Adams light. Do you know what I'm talking about? In the Adam's family, when Morticia Adams has that cross beam across her eyes of light, it has that effect. It's really, really cool. Thank you. Yeah, the eyes are kind of new. Honestly, they do. I do kind of look like Steve Buscemi before the lashes go. What did you say? What did you say? What did you say?

She says she looks like Steve Buscemi before the wash Who is very beautiful, we stan Yes of course Do you do like a soft or no bottom liner sometimes right?

No, I have to do a bright white waterline with the individual lashes. It's a must. But no dark underline? No, I will do a line under the white. Under the white, okay. Under the white, yeah. But I do like to keep it blank as well. I have never been able to do that. You're on the younger side of life. Are you 30 yet? She's 30. 30, okay, but you're just 30. I was going to say, because for a woman of his age,

It's so simple but effective. The two kind of like lines. Okay, so we're looking at one of your latest photos right now. Yeah, so you have that, the waterline white, and then you have a graphic line with the bottom lashes, the individuals, and then another sort of accent line underneath that is like... She's young enough to be drawing lines around the eyes. It's very simple. No, I'm like, if I tried to draw a graphic line underneath my eyes...

It would look like fucking palliative, like palliative care. I don't have perfect skin under my eyes. It's just technique. Okay, well, there you go. Come up. Come up to the mountains, Ben. She said, I'm just as ugly as you. I'm just a better makeup artist. You fucking bitch. Oh, no, I didn't say that. Were you, I was talking with Andrew about that. Would you, would you do my makeup, Pearl? I would love to. Okay, I'm coming up the mountain. It'd be so cool. I'm coming up the mountain this weekend. I'm like an hour and a half from Hollywood. Yeah, do you,

I said she does ceramics so I think she can tackle this right I want to be a lady of the woods lady of the lake um yeah it's definitely a vibe it's definitely a vibe I wouldn't have it any other way but um yeah we are like sitting on this nomadic journey though in this bus that we're building so we'll always come back here as like a home base we really found like

Like where we want to be at least for a while for now. Yeah. Are you near deep Creek? Until eventually we buy property. Are you near deep Creek? Is that where you were on your Instagram the other day? Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yes. I'm like a 20 minute drive from deep. Oh my God. I had the time of my life there. I had the time of my life there. Did you go in through the North or the South entrance? I went down to enter because coming back up, Mary,

Yeah, it's everything. It was like four runyons. Yeah, you have to take breaks. Yeah, bring lots of snacks. They said it was going to take an hour. We did it in 35 fucking minutes. Oh, nice. Well, did you go in though through like the North hike or the South hike?

I don't know. Because the South Hike is brutal, but you probably went into the North Hike because that's where the tourists come in. The way we exited was the most brutal hike I've ever been on in my life. Yeah. Anyway, the creek, though, is amazing. And the hot springs are amazing. Dick's balls and pussies. Yeah, we go there often.

yeah it was beautiful i mean honestly you're the first guest where i haven't had to brief myself on your career because i truly keep up with you watch everything you do oh my god and if you're comfortable can you tell us a little bit about the bus i just watched that today by the way holy crap so thank you and your husband is very handsome yeah he is gorgeous yeah and so nice oh my god

He is honestly, yeah, I have no idea why he's into me. Like, I'm like a fucking serrated edge of a fucking butcher knife. And personality-wise compared to him. And he's like this super gentle, like, I honestly don't know why he is still with me. Because I'm so fucking rotted in comparison to him. But anyway. That's sweet. Yeah. Yeah.

It's just like he makes me look at him a lot. But yeah, we are building our bus. It's pretty glamorous. I don't know. I've just always been interested in tiny houses and I've always wanted to build a van or something.

So just with COVID and everything, the opportunity presented itself and it was a good time. And we're up here. We live like two minutes from a lumber yard. So that was my first thought is living where you live. I'm like, how do they get all these? You got a lot of tools, ho. You got a sander and a jigsaw and a saw and everything. Literally, we just drive through like five minutes to this little forested area. There's a lumber yard right there.

So it's like weird. Everything's, I hate to say it because so many people are struggling, but it's been like a really beautiful year, you know, just being able to,

Take a breath, not like give a shit about traveling and social media and blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. Just be like focusing on myself, you know? Yeah. My relationship and my life, you know? So it's been good. If anybody has a moment, Pearl's YouTube, Pearl Bazaar, besides the makeup videos and the character of Roxanne, which we will get to. Yeah. It's not just the renovation of the bus. It's the fact that you're doing it by hand.

And the fact that you can tell as a viewer that you are winging it. Yeah. Oh, we are. We totally are. You're not like Bob, but it comes out great. Like it, everything just designs itself after a while, really, because you just run into so many limitations, like as you're building, um,

So eventually it's like, okay, well, we can't do that. So this is the only option. And then you just kind of like work around it. And I don't know, it's really cool. It's amazing. And it's fun. The hand painted trees, like hand done wallpaper effect. Oh, we didn't have any trees. You didn't? What are those little trees on the walls?

No, we have like we have like a Hawaiian print behind our storage doors. Like we made these store our wardrobe doors and they have like a like a vintage Hawaiian behind. So maybe that's what you're thinking. It's just crazy what you're doing. So when you're done with it, your hope and dream is to basically be like nomadic.

Well, for a while, but ultimately we want to buy some property and then just start building out like a little bit of an oasis for us and family. And then eventually, you know, Jeremy has like this Reiki practice and he does like all this healing stuff. So, and he has a, like a small, but loyal clientele. It's all he really needs to work.

So, you know, they can come and experience the Oasis and it can be like, you know, like a business kind of thing as well. That's cool. How exciting. When you downsize, when you're going to be hitting the road, are you going to bring drag? Yeah.

Yes. No, I'm going to be like doing drag and, you know, the desert and the woods and by the river and girl, it's a rebrand. We're working this rebrand says. No, it's not only a great rebrand because it's cool. It's also a great rebrand because I don't think other drag queens are striving to

Have things like limitations. Yeah. Yeah. You know what I mean? Yeah. Well, I need this girl. Like I've had a couple of slumpy years, so I need like, now what for you is a slumpy year? What for you is a slumpy year? What do you, what do you mean by that?

Um, well, you know, just like existential crisis, not knowing who I am, what I'm doing, if I even love drag or like, I like definitely knowing I don't I can't do it full time. I don't have the stamina or the financial resources, you know, with what I'm willing to do, like travel wise. And I don't know, I just couldn't I couldn't like get ready in dusty basements across the world anymore. Yeah.

You guys know. Yeah, we know. We've all been miserable on the road. And nothing that you can do or say can change that fact. We're all faking it most of the time when we're on the road.

I think that's part of, for me as somebody who consumes your content though, that's part of the appeal to me is that it's refreshing to see somebody who is getting in drag only when they want. Yes. Oh yeah. Very, very. I, cause I really, really am. I'm not, I'm, I'm inspired, but I'm also reassured by your presence in drag because I know that you're only doing it if you want to.

Well, well, like there's like this part of me that really, really loves fucking drag, you know, like I'll always love it and I'll always love the art of transformation. Yeah. And when I don't do it for a while, I do start to miss it. Yeah, me too. So, um, but yeah, there's also this element of just keeping up with the fucking Joneses. Okay. Like when there's all these plastic tiaras and freaking Gigi. Well, that's a losing battle. Yeah.

Oh, my... Okay. It's like... Just... Kim traveled with... But, you know, I... Kim traveled with Kosti for a while. She said it just made her want to quit. Yeah, half of them I wouldn't even take a picture with. Not because I don't like them, but because I don't want to look like fucking a toad. Are you on TikTok, Pearl? No. Like I said, I can barely log into my email, so I can, like... I'm just figuring out Instagram stories. Okay. I'm not on TikTok yet. If anybody hasn't seen... But I did...

I did kind of like ban TikTok a little bit though, like with all of the like protests and everything that were happening last year.

TikTok, there was like a scandal with TikTok. And I honestly can't even think of what it is right now. But I was like, fuck TikTok. I mean, there's big public posts about it. And I just kind of can't go to TikTok. Great. Stay away. That's my advice. But I feel like I was doing TikTok before TikTok came around. You know, I was doing nothing but making these 30 second long videos on Instagram. And they were, you know, kind of interesting, but also kind of weird to be on Instagram, which wasn't really working.

And then TikTok came along and I was like, okay, this is probably where I should be featuring this content. And then, you know, I fucked myself. Yeah. I love your content is so varied too. Like the video of you building that waterfall in your house. Oh yeah. It's like very random, isn't it? We just like, like to do fun projects together. We wanted to hear some running water. So we decided to build a waterfall. It's really fierce. And which I think you built it from like,

Styrofoam? Styrofoam and cement, yeah. Well, we met in Hawaii. Really? Styrofoam and cement?

Yeah, it's really cool. Wow. So we met in Hawaii and we go to Hawaii. Well, we did go to Hawaii a lot before, you know, pandemic and waterfalls are a thing. We always try to hike waterfalls, waterfalls, waterfalls. So we were here and we just wanted to like get into that fantasy because we're obviously not near any waterfalls. Right. Do you, are you, is it lonely up there in the, in the mountains? Cause you moved. Hell no. No.

She's like, it's not lonely enough. Who do I miss? Amy still finds her about every three weeks up in the mountains, hunts her down. Oh my God. She does. Yeah. Amy is pretty much like the only one that...

visits me regularly but um seriously come no i don't i don't ever miss anybody that's sometimes i tell jeremy like you gotta go for a night or two i'm just kidding you're gonna get a hobby bitch yeah do you um so you moved to l you're in new york you moved to la here for a time then you moved up in the mountains how long were you in la for about a year a year and then you were like fuck this i need to go to the mountains

Yeah, well, my rent was just so high. And my rent in New York was just as high. And I thought I would move here and be saving money. And I thought it would be more peaceful. But I found like a really great apartment in Las Feliz, which, you know, is obviously a very expensive part of town. And yeah, I just couldn't afford it.

And I didn't want to afford it. You know what I mean? So I took Jeremy up here on one of our first dates, like when he moved back here from Hawaii. And yeah, it just popped in my head. Like, why don't we just move there? It's only an hour and a half away from the city, you know, on a bad day in traffic. And my rent is like the cheapest rent I've ever paid in my entire adult life. Really? And it's just like everything. They got grocery stores up there? Yeah.

Girl, yes. Okay. Like really fancy, like chic little markets. It's all like thrift stores, antique stores, and... Is it Trumpy? Like two...

Yeah. But there's also liberals and there's a lot of queer people. Yeah. When I was there... Nina lives up here. When I was there at Christine McConnell's house over by Pearl, I was shocked at the number of like, looks like a hippie colony and then Trump sign. And then like, it's very high-low. It was wild. Yeah. I noticed that too. At a certain point, like driving to and back from the deep creek, I was like, where the fuck are we? Yeah. Are we in Montana? There's this one...

There's this one road that we call Aryan Alley because there's like five Trump flags that you cross as you're driving down. Yeah. And our neighbors are kind of bullshit, but it's like really quiet and peaceful. So you just I don't know, like it doesn't bother me. It's like whatever. What am I going to do? Like not live up here because there's Trump supporters around? Like whatever. You can't go anywhere then. You know what? One of those Republicans is going to be in L.A.

Honestly. Yeah. One of those Republicans is going to be walking through the woods one day and they're going to spot a beautiful white witch. Yeah. Crawling through the snow. Their whole mind is going to change. It's already happened. Well, I don't know about the mind changing part, but you're out there in furs and they're about to shoot. They think you're an animal.

They see Roxanne. Oh my God, we have to pivot. Before we pivot to Roxanne, can I ask about some of your celebrity transformations? You've done an incredible, incredible Sarah Jessica Parker. Oh yeah. And an amazing Drew Barrymore. Have either like noticed...

Yeah, Drew Barrymore shared it on her page. And this is crazy. She actually reached out and asked me to come and do her makeup at her house. So I it was crazy because I just landed in LA. I was living in New York at the time. And I'm like, hey, yeah, she lives in Malibu. Of course, I can make the time to go do it. Of course. So I rearranged my whole schedule.

And like the next morning, and it's ironic because you know who was my manager at the time, but he calls me and he's like, I'm so sorry, but Drew Barrymore had to cancel. She's not feeling well today. And I'm like, oh, well, that's too bad. And then like four or five hours later, she posts a picture on her Instagram riding around in a car with Cameron Diaz. Like no makeup, hashtag no makeup day. Hashtag day off. And I was just like,

I got duped like because of Cameron Diaz and I live. Yeah. That's like, that's honestly, could you blame her? I mean, what if she was running around with James Charles? Right. Yeah. So before we talk about Roxanne, we have to take a break. Oh yes. Taking a break.

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And we're back. We're back. Can we talk about probably one of the most exciting things I've ever seen somebody do with their drag? Yeah. Roxanne. Roxanne. I've seen every video multiple times. Yeah. I've watched, I've watched, I've watched the videos over and over. I get something new every time, a new joke every time. Yeah. And you, so you do everything. You, you obviously do all the makeup. You put a full face on top of another face. Yeah.

and then on top of prosthetics and you just edit you do all the editing yourself and upload it yourself it's treacherous work how did you come up with her it must be done it's treacherous work but it must be done somebody has to do it

Well, I was just coming into like my YouTube career, my budding YouTube career. And I just knew that I couldn't be traveling anymore. So I was like, maybe I can get into YouTube. Like James Charles is obviously super rich and famous. Like if I could have 1% of that, you know what I mean? And I would just sit down and do these YouTube videos and I'd have like an out of body experience. Like this is so fucking gay. You know what I mean? Like I cannot do this. Yeah.

So she just, I felt like Roxanne, like sitting there trying to do it. I'm like, I have way too many stories. I am way too bent and broken to be like playfully putting on blush and lipstick. Like, so I just like, I just took the storyline and like,

Turned it into this character who has, like, been through it all. She, like, dragged her body through broken glass to get to this laptop to edit this YouTube video and just, like, be fake and, like, you know, just what is on YouTube, basically. Really? That's what I like about it. It's this very, like, studied and astute critique of

on influencer beauty people. Yeah. Yeah, definitely. It takes the like the song fired, like no makeup look. And I mean, pushes it to a grotesque extreme. But then the result though, once you like, you take your makeup artistry and like actually put a face on that. She's stunning. Stunning. I mean, it does turn out like stunning. She's beautiful. Even though like, not joking though. Do you really use the Sally Hansen leg spray as foundation?

Yeah. It's everything. We have to include a clip. Can we include a clip of an audio clip of the, yeah, okay. There is this amazing clip I love about the time she's talking about falling off the boat and it's the guns and roses. And she's like, if you know me, you know, that's my song. I watched that one. Also when she takes the glasses off and she goes, I know it's pretty bad.

I know it's scary. You guys. She's like, what's that? Is it's gotten a lot. She's like, it's gotten a lot better. It's so, and you know what? The funny thing is, how long does that makeup, her no makeup, makeup look? How long does it take? Yeah.

Oh God. It takes like an hour and a half after I get the lips on to get into the zombie. And then like another hour and a half to get into the makeup. Yeah. To adhere those lips. I'm curious about that. And does, and do they stay on? I mean, what do you use to put those on? It's crazy. It is different every single time. Like it'll be great one time. And then the next time it's like, I've never even done it before. You know what I mean?

but I got it down to like a little bit of a science and eventually started making my own lips. So I kind of had my own little method, but I don't know. I would do shows as her and they would stay on and it was fine, but I just like definitely have, I'm aware of it. I can't just like,

you know, just like be doing whatever. Yeah. Kind of like with the lips. Yeah. But I, I would love to see, cause like my, I mean, I have to be honest, like in, in terms of American drag race, my, my attention span is kind of dipping a little bit here and there, but I would love to see, um,

queens go on the show as characters yeah and just like have roxanne i feel like would yeah the competition i agree wouldn't that be incredible i mean i think yeah i think that's a huge part of doing drag is like you know obviously having you know like a thing obviously like works yeah for some of us but um i think it's also cool to be like

This SNL skit of drag, you know where you can just totally change what you're doing every single day like why not? But yeah, I've obviously all-stars is never gonna happen for me But if I take one all-stars Roxanne would be there. She would be like tearing it up. I

Do the children chase you? Do the children comment? You have to do all stars? Do the children DM you? Of course they do. Yeah. I don't think they realize like you don't re-audition, you know, to get on all stars. Oh, right, right. Yeah. But so, so for someone like you, who is, I mean, I mean, you can, you are very beautiful in and out of drag and then in drag, you have like a very kind of transcendent,

Beauty. Do you love looking ugly? I can't even listen to this. It's the truth. Whether you can accept the compliment or not, you are so wonderful. You don't have to accept the compliment. It's just the truth. Whatever. But do you love, because I love looking ugly on purpose.

I absolutely love looking ugly. I love looking beautiful and I love looking ugly even more. Like I do these really twisted thin lips, like nasty housewife characters as well. And I literally just want to go grocery shopping like that. You know what I mean? Like I want to just live, like I feel more like at home when I'm dressed as like Kim, the,

the super nanny, you know what I mean? Yeah. Then, then being like Pearl, I don't know. I just like, you also did like a Vicky, what is their name? Vicky, um, Gunbull send. Yeah. Such a serve. Nasty. Yeah. Yeah. I love it. I just love looking like a rotted middle-aged woman. I don't know. I can't. And then you get out of the makeup and you're like, I'm so young and perfect. Yeah.

It reminds you of how beautiful you... I feel like dressing up ugly. Just get tired of being beautiful. Right. Just get tired of being beautiful. Right. If you want to feel great, like, remember when Tyra... Remember when Tyra on television... Oh, yeah. ...did certain things that you probably wouldn't do now? Certain fat suits. And then she was like, I was in a fat suit for a day, so now I understand. Yes. I was in a fat suit for three hours, so now I get it. Right. Yeah. Now I get it. And then she...

And then she got caught wearing that swimsuit and she looked fat in it. And then she like wore the swimsuit on her show to prove that she wasn't fat. To be brave. You remember that? To be vulnerable and brave. Yeah. And then she's like, kiss my... You remember that? Yes. You remember that?

God. So, I mean, she's probably one of the worst talk show hosts and terrible models. But who is... God bless her. Well, sure, whatever. Who is your... I get an enjoyment in entertainment out of Tyra Banks. You love her? I could fall asleep with that shit just like drilling a finger. I just saw this meme that was like Housewives full volume bickering and then me sleeping to it. It was like somebody calmly sleeping next to it. Oh my God. I can't sleep unless Bethany Frankel is like

crying and screaming hysterically in my ear what is your favorite housewives franchise potomac potomac sorry oh potomac potomac is lit that fight was crazy which one the fight was crazy oh yeah absolutely they teased it all season like it was gonna be punty and then when it happened it was so violent and so evil what happened i know it went dark i kind of i felt so bad for wendy you bitch

Yeah. Yeah. I felt really bad for Wendy. She was like, I did not sign up for this. She was like, shook. No, I loved Ashley coming back from the bathroom. Because she was like peeing. And then getting completely involved in the court. Yes. In the lawsuit. It's crazy. But she was like the only one who wasn't there. I love that bird T'Challa. My heart. Oh my God, I know. I...

I was like ready to take a bullet for Monique. Like everything she did, she could do no wrong until like the whole, the way she handled the fight ensued. But like the parrot, everything about her is just like queen shit in my eyes. Yeah. But yeah, I do love Potomac and I love New York. I mean, yeah. If you want to, if you want to check out some unchecked alcoholism at full volume, watch, watch New York. It's, it's crazy. Oh my God.

What about, so out of the, out of the, in the realm of like, you know, models, actresses, blah, blah, blah. Who, who would you say are like your top three beauty icons? God, I am so sick of these questions, you guys. What did she say? I'm so sick of this question, you guys.

We asked everybody. When you're doing the Drag Race Circuit, isn't that question just like railed into your head over and over again? I've never been asked that question. You haven't? No. Well, I guess that's because people actually ask you substantial questions and want to know other things. I guess not.

As a drag queen? Yeah, we can talk about it. I guess as like a drag queen or beauty creator, who's somebody who just like makes you like, oh shit, I want to get in a wig now. Like who inspires you? Anybody? No, not really. I don't like, I don't know. I don't do drag because like, I don't know. Let me think. Like, I don't know. Like it really just comes like what I want to wear is what makes me get into drag. I'm like, ooh, okay.

I like my like all these wigs I've been making recently I was just like oh I really want to start like making my own wigs again I want them to be really long and woodsy like fairy girl running through the woods hair so I don't know I just made them and now I get into drag that and I get into drag designed around the wig you know it's not really like I'm not really like I've never I don't know like of course I love like old Hollywood blonde bombshells and all that shit but like yes

It's not like making me get into drag. She's a witch. She's inspired by acorns. Acorns and pine trees. Clouds, rivers, streams, rocks. I'm really inspired by the squirrels from The Sword in the Stone. I find nature... Madame Mim. Madame Mim inspires me. The witch from Sword in the Stone. There you go. She's like the little hobbit and then she turns into a beautiful woman with long hair. You ever seen Sword in the Stone? No. Yeah.

Is this like a new movie? Is this like, is that Picard? Is that a sword in the stone? Is this like an old movie? I was at James Charles' house once and I asked him, what do you think an old horror movie is? And he said, Scream. Scream. Yeah, that doesn't surprise me. It's 2010, isn't it? Yeah. No, no, no, no, no, no, no. It's like 1988. Oh, okay. Yeah. He was probably 2002. Well, what's like your favorite old horror movie? Mine's Sleepaway Camp. Good one.

I've never seen that. I've never seen Sleepaway Camp. Watch it tonight. Is that the one with the crazy... I wouldn't say it's the most sensitive depiction of a trans character. Got it. I like to stay away from cabin movies. What? Like Cabin in the Woods. Oh my God, I love it. Camp, summer camp. Even though I live in a cabin in the woods, I love it. Do you get scared at night there? Seriously. Seriously.

I did at first, but I don't anymore. Why not? Is it the wig? I just love it. I don't know. I watch Forensic Files all night. I don't care. I just like love it. Really? I love to be creeped out. I love scary movies. I love thriller movies, horror movies. It's like my favorite shit. What's the scariest movie you've ever seen? Scary, scary to the bone chilling. Oh my God. High tension. Have you seen it? It's a French film. Yes, I have. Mary, that movie is fucking insane. What's it about? That and... Oh, go ahead. No, no, no. You...

What's it about? That and Ichi the Killer. What's that? Have you seen Ichi the Killer? No. No, say it again. What's the title? That's the most... Ichi the Killer. It's a Japanese movie. I think it's Japanese. I haven't seen that one. That's like terrible as well. It's just like another crazy foreign film that's psychotic and...

You got to watch. You got to watch High Tension. There's a crazy twist at the end, but that movie is fucking great. It starts out with this guy, this monster guy getting a blowjob from a decapitated head. Oh, work. Tuesday. Quarantine. Quarantine. We're going to take a break.

And we're back. Oh, we're back. Wow. So if anybody hasn't followed, I'm serious. Your YouTube content is so varied. Yeah, it's lit, crunk, and turd. You also don't post every other day. So when you do post, it's like, okay, this is a pro video. I'm sitting down and watching it.

it oh my god is that really how you feel i've watched your videos i've yes i've watched them and also some of the makeup techniques you have the generousness of sharing you did this thing where you said instead of doing glitter on your inner eye you do white dots now on my tv going okay and then halfway through the dots i was like holy shit it does look like glitter white dots oh my god thank you

Your technique, hun. It's unmatched. Your makeup artistry has always been ridiculous, but now more than ever, you look like a fucking, I don't even know why. Can I come up and get my makeup done? Come to the mountains? I would love it. Can I sleep over? Do you allow guests? Yeah, you can sleep on the bus, girl. Yeah, I would love it. Even besides makeup, we can just kiki. Are you still smoking the weed?

Oh my God, girl. Like that is my biggest, my biggest expense. It's more than my rent. Honestly. If anyone listening, like has a private grower, please DM me, like email me, get in touch. Now, but it's, so you go to the store or you send away with like a delivery service to get the wacky weed? God,

We had this guy who was a private grower and he was giving us the best deals ever. And, um, he passed on and then he like, yeah, he died. No, but he no longer does that. So now we're buying it from the stores and it's like fucking killing me. It's like between the taxes and yeah, just, is it expensive? I'm a very avid cannabis consumer. How much is weed?

um it's like 200 an ounce for like this much and how much does an ounce get you through if you're like a casual smoker well i live with my boyfriend so it's kind of hard to gauge but you're like i'm in a wig in the woods i'm not a casual smoker we can smoke an ounce of weed in like a week like a week okay that's like 200 a week

Yeah. Oh my God. $100 a month, hun. No, that really is like rent again. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. But listen, you know, water's wet, weed's expensive. What are you going to do? Exactly. Yeah. And do you ever do like, do you smoke like, you roll up a fat blunt and smoke it like that? No, I just like, I'm old school. I like to burn flour in like a big fat bong rip. Okay. Oh, bongs. Bongs.

Bongs. Big straight guy college energy. I'm like Bill and Ted's bogus adventure with my weed consumption. It's just what I am. It's just what I do. I don't like do drugs anymore. I barely drink, but I do love smoking. I love the idea of seeing the lady of the woods with like this flaxen hair all like, you know, 36 inches and then just taking a big bong. Choking on weed. Choking on smoke. She's sprinting through the snow with a bong choking. Yeah.

It's awesome. So she flies on the bong across the moon. Yeah. Oh my God. Are you still finding time to do any sculptures, mixed media? I just did my first commission in like a year. Yeah.

We have one of your sculptures at David's house and we love it. Oh, is that? We have Darcelle. Oh yeah. Yeah. I delivered that one. I remember I came in and took a little, little tricksy visit. Yeah. She's gorgeous. I love your sculptures. I think, you know, Birch is going through the same thing cause she does YouTube a lot now. And so she doesn't have as much time to sculpt. So it's a lot of commitment. Um,

Well, I mean, ideally, I would just love to have like a room set up where you can just walk in and do it. It just becomes a thing when you're pulling it all out, doing it, putting it away. And I just have my hands in so many like artistic pots, I guess. You gotta get a studio. You need a studio. Yeah. Well, that's why I came up here. I have like room. I have an extra like room. Oh, that's great.

I leave my YouTube shit set up full time now because I used to take like break it down, whatever. That's a whole nother thing. Leave it up in the East wing. You should see it. It's like CBS studios. It's like CBS studios in there. It's CBS studios. They do the news here. But,

But you know, when you're trying to be creative, when there's a whole hour of setup, but like before it, you're like, well, girl, it's like a very legitimate, like second career for you. So why wouldn't you have a fucking studio in the next room? Like does that wouldn't make sense not to.

Yeah, it's... Believe me, it's modest. It's a small room. The lights are flat up against the wall and the seamless is flat up against the other wall. Whatever works. But that's literally... That's the thing about YouTube. You can be in a closet and no one would know. You can put a green screen behind you just like fucking Roxanne. And you can be in a mansion and nobody...

would know it's crazy like what you can build especially with makeup the illusion is to make it look like you're a big fancy revlon company it's like half the time i'm like who do you think took that product picture me and my underwear in that room yeah you fucking bitch do you have any aspirations to ever do television again um i guess it would just depend on the project i mean uh i like the idea of being like super private but i also like the idea of

like broadcasting my creative stuff like in any way that's good and positive, you know? Yeah, yeah. But I wouldn't be in like reality competition shit anymore. I wouldn't do that. No.

Well, that's harder than anything. And I don't think people realize that. That's the hardest type of TV there is. It's garbage. And you're only making networks rich and you're not really getting anything out of it yourself. I mean, if you're on Drag Race, obviously that's a different story. But usually you're just going on there to entertain their masses and they get paid and you get your little $250 stipend or

And a pack of fruit snacks thrown at you by a PA if you're lucky. A sweaty PA. Right. Well, maybe someday when you buy your property and you want to renovate or build, I hope you put on your YouTube. I love... Oh, I would. The whole thing. Eventually, me and my boyfriend would love to build a garage and just build tiny houses and put them on trailers and just ship them out one at a time.

And record it and document it. I went through a tiny house shopping phase where I was thinking of buying a tiny house and putting it on a plot in Wisconsin in my hometown. And I ultimately passed, but it must be very lucrative because even a cheap tiny home is tens of thousands of dollars if you're buying it, not self-building it. Yeah. I mean, we bought our bus for $5,000 and we're putting like, you know, obviously the bare minimum into it, but we could probably sell it at the end of the day for like,

$70,000, $80,000, $90,000. Flipping buses. Easily. Easily. Especially when you get down to people customizing it. There's a huge profit. Right, right. So if people want to work with us and customize something like that, that's cool. But I kind of would love to just build something totally crazy glam and just sell it. You know what I mean? Yeah, yeah. Would you ever tour clubs again? Rather than work with people. Would you ever tour clubs again? No.

I'm sorry. Would you ever tour nightclubs again? Oh, yeah, definitely. I just don't want to do it multiple times a week. Yeah. You know, but I actually love doing it. I love the experience of it, but it just like ruins the experience when you're doing it like all the time. Do you agree?

Yeah, I mean, finding the balance. Well, you're sorry. You guys are still actively doing it. So you probably can't answer that. Are you kidding me? I got to tear this. I got to dig her out of a coffin. Yeah. Every time we have to do something. And there's paperwork before that even gets to that step. Like, but, you know, I, but finding the balance between like what you're like, what you want to do and what you need to do or what you think you need to do. And like, you know, all that stuff is, is tricky. And it depends on, depends on a lot of stuff. It changes, but like. It's stupid though, because it shouldn't be tricky. It should be like,

What your needs should be met. Like if you have that privilege, which we all did, which we all do slash did when we got off of drag race, but we chose to fucking kill ourselves and be miserable most of the time and like get into shit we shouldn't have got get into it. Like it sucks. So I just kind of refuse. Yeah. You know, well as a fan, I don't think anybody who follows you feels neglected. We still get a lot and it's on your own terms, which anybody who really likes you,

respects that you don't want to be in drag every day you know what i mean well people are gonna see me more people are gonna see me getting into drag in my house and taking a picture for instagram then they're gonna see me in a club right and at their own schedule in their panties perhaps yeah yeah exactly yeah yeah i just refuse to like be uncomfortable with this shit anymore you know yeah yeah that's all welcome to your 30s yeah what you drinking there

urine whose no this is uh it's a blend fetus or uh sorry i just got really stoned and took um a gummy before i caught on this and it's like hitting no it's apple juice apple juice can i ask about the gummies what's what's a moderate dosage for you milligrams

Um, oh, well, I don't ever feel it. So my boyfriend just like will put like three in my mouth and he'll eat like one. This feels like an abusive relationship. I can't like...

Like 60 to 80 grams, I guess. So let me tell you about Shirley Temple right here. Did you say 60 to 80? Let me tell you about Shirley Temple right here. Yeah, possibly 100. This girl, she'll take a half a milligram and she'll be butt naked in downtown LA. What's wrong with you? Well, is there anything this year you want to tackle? What can we as people who follow you expect? Yeah, what's next for... Do you think you're going to get the bus done this year? Um...

Oh yeah, absolutely. We should be done with it in the next month or two. So cool. Yeah. So basically we don't want to get rid of this house. So if you guys want like little month long rental moments up in the mountains, let me know. But besides that, yeah, we're just going to be like documenting our like travel experiences, be like nomadic, cute gay couple on YouTube. I'll be doing drag out in the woods and yeah,

I'm going to be designing... I have an athleisure collection coming out. Brooks Marks. It's going to be like... Huh? Brooks Marks. Yes, exactly. That's me. That's my aspiration. But yeah, just like, I don't know, being cute and...

loving life at all. Especially now that I'm not in the lawsuit anymore. Hey! Yes, freedom! Being cute and loving life. Here's to being as beautiful and talented as Pearl on your own terms. Congratulations, Pearl. Girl, you've done it. I made it. I'm a survivor. Where can people find you online? On Instagram, Pearl Liaison, on YouTube, Pearl Bazaar, and I think that's it.

Not no OnlyFans. Not yet. TikTok. Would you spread that hole on video for OnlyFans? I thought about it. My boyfriend is basically like shoving the camera in my face to get it done once I told him how much money people are making. No kidding. But yeah, he's like trying to pit me out now. You know what? I Googled last night.

I googled last night how much does the average OnlyFans creator make, and it's $180 a month. You can't even make an average. The average is not even anything related. Well, that's the average. But she's a star. Look at the material. Well, when my nudes leaked, that was fucking a hellacious wildfire. So I could only imagine actually getting paid for it. Might as well. I mean, the thought crosses my mind, but I don't necessarily need it.

And I don't have like a desire. I'm not like voyeuristic or anything like that. So I don't have like a desire. It's not titillating at this point. Right. I would literally only be doing it for money right now. But Roxanne fucking. Now Roxanne, I would pay $29.99 a month to see Roxanne's tight gash. Roxanne likes up. Like I wish. Yeah. I thought about that too. There's a whole thing around it. It's not just like, oh, get an OnlyFans, post your dick pics. It's like,

get an only fans, figure out your marketing scheme. How are you going to market your private photos? How much are you going to charge for those? You know what I mean? Like there's all these different things inside the only fans, like sharing extra photos for my, like everyone that I talked to about it was like, don't ever show anything. Only put it in like the pictures that you charge for. Yeah, exactly. So I'm like,

wow thank god that we talked because if i just got an only fans it would have just been like giving it all away you know i mean there's like a there's like a method to it you know and it's a deep commitment creating content like that is not easy and it's very especially for porn stars right because they're like having to get railed to keep anyone's interest and also they're having to i know there's a there's a guy i want to have on the pod and the the amount of um pressure

There is because now you're not only up against like you establish a precedent in your own content creation and rollout that you have to compete with the, I mean, every single one of your colleagues. Right. Every one of them. You're competing for money. And it's like, Jesus Christ. Yeah.

Anyways. Anyways. Well, when you go down that road, Pearl, we will retweet and share. Yes. And I will subscribe. You will? Oh, my God. Thank you. And I will rub my pussy raw to your hot, sexy pics. Thank you. Just don't reshare my art, sis. Oh, yeah. I'll also be stealing the photos and using them on Grindr. Thank you so much. I'm coming up the mountain, and I'm going to get my paint done by you. You know, I know we're running out of time here, but I have to say one more thing. We talked about it recently, and you just brought it up, Pearl. Yeah.

don't share it is not ethical to share people's nudes just because they were on television and it doesn't feel like a real person to you that's so 2004 it is fucking unethical and no one talks about it what's his name Aaron Samuels from Mean Girls his nude actually leaked yesterday everyone's sharing it I'm like this is horrible but did you look

Yeah. But I mean, I saw it, but I wouldn't, I wouldn't, I just think it's so gross. How did you feel when people raped your nude? No, I agree.

No, I was kind of pissed. You should be. But at the same time, I didn't expect any more from the community that I was in. Because I think it was through a private album on Grindr or Scruff or something. And then I shared it and then they shared it, basically. So I was pissed, but I also didn't expect anything more. People are erotic. I didn't expect anything less. Yeah.

I mean, I don't personally, I don't worry about that because the pictures of my gash are so tight and tiny. Okay. People think it's a belly button. They would just think it was, yeah, they think it's like just a part of a child. Because how could it, how could something be so small? So small what? Small, bald, and tiny. Small, bald, and tiny. You know no one wants to see that blue-bit onion. Ah!

Blooming onion, okay. French onion soup. Pearl, thank you, Pearl, for joining us today. Thank you. Goodbye. Thank you so much. Thank you, Pearl. Thank you.