The Sound of Music with Frisbee Jenkins
53:51 Share

Hey, welcome back to another episode of The Bald and the Beautiful with Trixie Mattel and myself today joined by the incomparable, inimitable, and Iowan. She's a famous drag queen. She's an Iowan. Is that Iowan? What is the word there? Iowan? Residents of Iowa are called what? An Iowan, yes. Ewok.

I think we just say inbred. Yeah, I was going to say fat fuck. Sasha Bell, a.k.a. Frisbee Jenkins. Hi, guys. It's so exciting to see you. I can't believe it. I have to say, before we talk about drag, you look so hot.

I know. You are just so beautiful. I just can't take it. I've got to get it out too. I don't want to be creepy or like, you know, whatever, whatever. But it's so funny. Like you are such my type. Like it's kind of unnerving because I never see drag queens or people who do drag, even dabble in drag that look even like remotely what I'm interested in, you know,

know humping up on now this is one of those podcasts where we let you talk this is where we just talk about how we feel about you yeah wow it's going great so far i have to say yeah you're just gonna like breathlessly shriek a lot of the inappropriate things at your face right now people might know you from um where might they know you from um well they might know me from rupaul's drag race season seven the best season ever made

I think that's a general consensus. Everyone's always said that about our season. You know, haters can really go suck it because guess what we're all doing? Counting money, cashing checks. Yeah. At least I know that the residuals from season seven are so strong. I mean, I don't even work anymore. Yeah. Imagine if we did get residuals. That would be really lovely. The only residuals we get are emotional residuals. Trauma. So where are you talking to us from right now? Puerto Vallarta.

What'd you say? The super spreader, the super spreader tea, tea dance in Puerto Vallarta. Um, I'm at the bottom of the ocean in Puerto Vallarta. I can't say that word. Were you in that sinking ship sis? Have you seen all the memes for that? No.

No. You don't know about the party boat that went down? No, I don't know about the party boat. What? A party boat of gays went down in the ocean. Did they drown? No one was harmed. They absolutely drowned. Did you see that meme of Titanic where Kate Winslet's mom is like, will the boats be sorted according to followers? It's really fierce.

Can I ask, as a hot white gay, did you have an inclination to go to Puerto Vallarta? I guess I missed my invite in the mail. I don't know. I would love to. No, like Speedo sponsorship got you out in like a Hawken whatever on a... Do you get the free underwear nowadays? I actually just, I got Cellblock. They make like harnesses and stuff. I put up a couple pictures because I had bought some stuff from them and they sent me some free shit. So I love their stuff.

I love once in a while when you get free things that you actually like. I never ever get free stuff. You really don't? No. This is your call to action. Well, I don't open the mail though.

Do you have to open the mat? Actually, no. I get free makeup stuff, but I would love to like, it'd be nice to come home to a free pair of pants that fit well. Yeah. Or a new, come home to a home. It'd be nice to come home to a home. Yeah. Or like a, yeah. Now this show's called The Bald and the Beautiful. We are the bald. Guess what you are? The beautiful. Oh, guys. Thank you. Wow. So how old are you? How old am I? Yeah. Can you date us? Yeah. Yeah.

Are you seeing anybody? I am 34. That's a great age. A great age. I could have, you know, almost a kid out of high school if I would have been a straight man who had sex during high school. 17 year old. Yeah. Can you imagine having 17? You could have had a kid out of high school, but you would have had to go all the way to the elementary school, pick one out. I actually did have sex with women in high school.

Interesting. Talk about it. It didn't go well though. But one of the times was an attractor. Let me ask you this. So like I find that a lot of gay people who've dated women, they kind of leave that life with a, they have a misogynistic like aftertaste in their mouth. You know what I mean? Like, and I've never really understood that. Like I get the fact that you don't want to have sex with a woman, but it's not disgusting. Yeah. How do you feel about it?

No, it wasn't disgusting. It just was... It was a lot of pressure, you know? And it was like...

the pressure of my family being like, you know, why, why don't you have a girlfriend? You know? So it was, I was doing it for all the wrong reasons. So, um, I mean, yeah, I'm, I'm definitely into men, but I would never say women are disgusting or anything. Yeah. I know a lot of people like in the Midwest, like from that kind of like a conservative family, the parents watch you have sex with the girl to make sure you're not gay. I,

I thought you were serious for like half of that. You see my eyes? I was like, it's an Iowa thing. They need that visual confirmation. One of my ex-boyfriends, he, um, he was going down on a girl in high school and he started crying. He cried into her pussy, which I'm sure felt fine. No way. You know,

It was serious. Wow. Now, when we talk about you being beautiful, I think we accidentally make it sound like you were this gut bucket. Yeah, no, no, no, no. This is not a Princess Diaries thing or whatever. No, it's not an extreme home makeover. It's not a she's all that. But I mean, what would you describe? I would describe you as like a sexy, beefy daddy type. Is that not accurate? I'll take that. Yeah. Okay. Yeah, absolutely. With a very full mustache. Yeah.

Now, as a professional porn person, can I ask, if I watch POV porn about being molested by your father, am I reliving trauma or am I taking back the night? I'll take my answer off the air. I'll take my answer off the air. You just hang up and never come back. Carla, where are the angels? Carla. Um...

So let's take it back. Let's start on your journey. Before we knew you on the drag race, you are from the legendary family of Belle. Tell us about the girls. Oh, my God. Yes. So my drag mother, Pretty Belle, she lives in Cedar Rapids here in Iowa. Pretty Belle. Pretty Belle. Pretty Belle. Pretty Belle. And she is hilarious. She owns the bar in Cedar Rapids, and she's just a big comedy queen. So I was her daughter, or I'm her daughter, and then I had one million daughters. Wow.

And we just kind of... Is that like one million moms? Yeah. I'm the original team mom. So, you know. Wait, how did you become a mother of so many? What's that process? Is there paperwork involved? There's a lot of paperwork. What does that mean for real though? Because we don't have drag families. Tell us about that. You guys don't? Do you approach a young gay in the club and go like, you want to come put on a wig?

Yeah, I don't anymore because, you know, everyone does drag. But the town I live in, Iowa City, it's the University of Iowa. And so it's always kids cycling in and cycling out. So and that's really been hard, like getting really close to people and they graduate and move on. So it's like you have all these children and then they all die. Yeah, absolutely. I'm like, no, I'm like, I'm like, what's her name in Pose where her kids left her house?

That's me every year. So I lose kids, but then we have a new crop of, you know, freshmen that come and they start showing up at the club. And yeah, it's cool to see brand new kids watch drag, some for the first time ever, you know, or they've been watching like Drag Race and now they can finally, they're old enough to go to a bar and see it. And it's just, you could see them in the audience and they're like,

And you're like, oh, that's going to be one right there. Or they're like, the mark of like a drag queen to be is the gay guy who's sitting watching the drag show mouthing every word in like a pose. Yeah. The ones are a little bit too keen to get on stage and like jump into a split or whatever. Yeah. And like while they tip you, they hold on a little long. One of your rings is gone. You're like, damn it. Yeah. Do you ever turn them gay on purpose or that just always happens?

On purpose. Absolutely. Is it a college town where you are? Yeah. Yeah. Oh, do you dabble? Do you stick your pen in the company ink? The company ink. Unless you work at the college. I don't think that makes sense. But do you get, because of your daddy status, do you get the little 20-year-olds like, oh, I know, they must go nuts for that. Actually, I haven't.

Um, I feel like, I don't know, I think people see me as the drag queen who was on Drag Race. And so a lot of the young gays who come to the club, they're more like, tell us about Drag Race. They're not like, oh, hey, you know, and I'm usually, if I'm at the bar, I'm in drag. So they're not like...

Looking good. Do they even recognize you? Because like from following you for so long, you don't, you switch up your looks a lot. Yeah. Like you do different skin color, like yellow, pink, like different hair colors all the time. And your drag has changed a lot. Do they still clock you all the time? What do you mean by clock? Like obviously five years ago, fresh off television, it was exactly you. Oh, gotcha. Hasn't it been longer than five years?

It's been 84 years. It's been 84 years. No, yeah, it was definitely a lot more right when we were off of it. I don't know. It must be an Iowa thing. Kids just must spread the word that there was that one queen from Iowa who made it. Because when they come to Iowa City, they know who I am.

And they're like, can you tell me about Drag Race? Was RuPaul nice? Oh my God. No, she was not. What about how many other bells are there? Because my favorite one, of course, is Jaina. Jaina, the Facebook troll of the century. Of Hits From Hell.

From hell. I just love the idea, especially with drag names because often they're so unremarkable, but I love the like, you just know that she has to correct everybody who sees it in print. It's like, oh, it's Jaina. It's Jaina. Oh my God. She is going to, she moved to Chicago.

That's right, she did. Good for her. She's going to be walking up and down the streets of Chicago flipping that hair knowing that she was mentioned on this podcast. And then Mai Ling is your daughter, right? Yep, yep. I keep track of all the girls. Wait, Mai Ling with the legs?

Short legs. Does she have legs? That's a different Ling. Never mind. Wait. No, I'm thinking of somebody else. She's the show director. You're thinking of Gabby Douglas. Yeah, I'm thinking. You're thinking of Olympian Gabby Douglas. Did she go to the London Olympics in 2012? Did your daughter do a floor routine at the Olympics?

You're still your show director. I mean, you're like mother of the legendary mother of the house of your region. Big time. My link took over as show director when I went on drag race and I got back and she's like, you ready to start doing the schedule again? And I said, absolutely not. You go girl. Oh my God.

You know, you think it's sort of like you want the power until you get it. You're like, remember just doing numbers. That was a little more fun. I don't even know. And people get so mad when you make the schedule. Like it is personal with if they don't get six bookings a month, you know? Wow. Do you ever like get back at people, wield your power in like a, you know, a revengeful way or whatever? You're pretty like nice, though.

You're like a nice, caring matriarch, I bet. Yeah, I think the only time I've really kind of reprimanded people is if they were late to shows. Oh, I hate that. Neither of us like lateness. We're never late. Yeah, I'm not late. Not really. How late has someone been the latest that you've let them still work in a show? On a scale from Shangela to Valentina, how late? I'm talking in minutes. The show started at 8.

Do you ever have someone walk in so late that you're like, well, you're not going on? Have you ever pulled that? I have told someone that they are not, we're skipping your first number because they were still like putting a wig on and I'm like, I'm done because I was obscene and I'm like, I can't, you know, go on anymore. I think that's fair. It's crazy. We used to have this like, okay, so the show was at, let's say the Overture went on at eight o'clock and then the first number was like at 820, say 830.

The one queen would show up at 7.59. She'd really pull a stunt. She would pull a stunt and she would say, I'll be ready for the show. Like, I'll be ready. And she would go on, like, you know, miss the first three bars of her song, but go out there. And not looking good. There isn't. Not looking good. Not ready. You look like shit. You have like a shitty wig on. And that person, Rossi Andrews. No, I'm just kidding. There is that personality type at a drag show that's like...

Fully no bra on being like start the track. Yeah, go ahead It's almost like a personal like I'm gonna prove to everyone here that I will be ready They never prove it. They always miss like the first few lines of the song. I'm like you didn't do it I would have an anxiety attack like I grew up with a million kids in my house and because of that we were late for Everything so that's what yeah. Oh, it kills me to be late. Oh

I don't understand this whole thing. Like you're a lip syncer. So you fail if you're not out there when there's music on. Well, the job is so barely a job to begin with. You have to be out there moving your mouth. Yeah. And it doesn't have to be like, it has to be when it's happening. Yeah. Not exactly. I mean, you want that. Yeah. But if you're not in the vicinity, you

You completely failed. Honestly, don't you think on a local level for the girls just starting out, things like professionalism and punctuality is so much more important to me as a show director than actually what you're doing out there? Yeah, because as a show director, you're making sure the people who call in sick or get covered or whatever. What do you think?

Well, I think I agree. And I also think like what you do with the audience, like after the show, because we make it a point if we're booking you, like you need to stick around for an hour or two and kind of socialize and make people want to come back again. You know, that is a big part of it. I hated that part. Taking pictures with them. Yeah. There was one hot girl in the show and she would always get all the attention. And then we were the dogs.

Where I was the dog. Who was the hot girl? Destiny. Oh, right. Yeah. Everyone's like, we want pictures with her. Yeah. And I'd be right there. You're doing a split on a vending machine. Like, what about me? But I forget, like literally people pushing me out of the way to get to her. It's so humiliating. Fina cackling as you hit the ground. Yeah. She's the one pushing me. So you did Drag Race. We all had a lovely season seven experience. None of us won, which was a great weight off the chest. Lovely guy.

Great weight. A huge weight off the chest. Wow. I couldn't bear it. You know who I just talked to? Tempest Azure called me out of the blue the other day and was updating me on all her ducks, geese, and dolphins and all the shit she has. And like she had an emu that got eaten by a lobster or something? She is animal hoarders. Tempest Azure is animal hoarders. What was it? She was like, my emu died. I was like, what?

And it was eaten by a rescue dog. Yeah, it was eaten by her rescue dog. You're lying. I'm dead serious. This is Dr. Doolittle going on. I know. You and Tempest have had different trajectories with your careers. She's homing displaced ducks.

And you're, well, you're showing your hole on Twitter.com. Yeah. Can we get into it? I got to get into it. You just got to get into it. After season seven, how long would you say before you started your sort of, I will say a little bit under the radar at first. Tom Selleck transformation. Yeah. When did you start your transformation? Um, well, I, you know, I, I didn't have the best trajectory on drag race and, um,

I kind of... Depends who you ask. What's that? Depends who you ask. Well... I think you did wonderful. I... It did not go well for me. And we... We toured and I kind of didn't like how touring was going for me and kind of how people acted at shows. And it was... That hasn't improved, by the way. Yeah, that's just gotten worse. Well, I mean, like...

Even like right at the premieres. I had fun at the premieres, but I had to definitely take the audience's response and kind of put it to the side. Because I remember we were in Chicago and I'm a Midwest queen, so I was hurt by this. And we were watching the premiere. And when I was safe and Tempest and Jasmine or Tempest and Candy were in the bottom and I was safe, like they booed.

Oh my God. And you were in the room. Oh my God. And they knew I was there. They knew I was there because they had already introduced us. So they booed knowing I was in the building. And then we had to go out and perform afterwards. And they just glared at me.

Oh, my God. Like you just killed a kid. Like you killed somebody's kid right on TV. Yeah, I'm like, if I could turn back time and get eliminated first, I would have done it because at least my picture would have been featured, you know, in this latest premiere. I'm the poor chop-loading doc, sis. I'm just a poor chop-loading doc, sir. I'm like, what did they want me to do? I should have been like, do not send Tempest home. I volunteer. I messed up. My bra strap showed.

Yeah, you're right. Everyone should win and I'm going to kill myself. Goodbye. I love that. So I mean like I wasn't really happy with the response I was getting and I was just eating everything in sight. And I got big, which is not really – I don't think there's anything wrong with being big. But I didn't like how I felt and I decided that I was just going to –

Start working my ass off and I was the cardio queen running like three to seven miles a day doing kickboxing and then still going to the gym after that. And are you serious? Yeah. Holy shit. Yeah. It showed. Yeah. I mean, I remember watching the progress, but I didn't know you did all that. Well, it seemed like you made it happen relatively quickly.

Well, I mean, like, I was healthy about it, you know? Like, I ate right, and I worked out, and I had a trainer, and, you know, I... But the thing is, I got really skinny, and I was healthy skinny, but I thought I looked sick. I thought I looked not well. And some people look really hot that skinny, but not me. It wasn't right for me. Do you...

Do you know like numbers? Like how much weight, like were you at your heaviest? If you're comfortable, of course. Because people don't know you're about six, what? Six one? Yeah, you're a big girl. Just six. Oh, really? She's a great big fat person.

So, Frederica, did Stacey ever mention a weight that... Yeah, what was your I'm too skinny weight for you? And what was your I'm too large weight? And we don't have to include it. I'm just personally... Well, it's kind of funny because before, you know, like until I was 25, I was like 160, 165.

For six feet, that's skinny. That's very skinny. That's really skinny. But I ate like crazy. In high school, if my mom made spaghetti, I'd be eating four plates. It's just that was my metabolism. And then it finally slowed down a couple years before I got on Drag Race. The rest of the family ate the spaghetti. You ate the plates. I ate the plates. So what was the heaviest? Right now is the heaviest. I'm like 255 pounds.

That's great. Are you in like bulk mode right now, sis? Yeah. Because you have to, at your level, once you're like past a certain point of fitness, you have to do the phases, right, of back and forth. Oh, yeah. You'll get shot in the street by people.

You don't do the faces. That's very LA. She's not chubby. She's bulking. I've been bulking for about 16 years. Yeah. Waiting for the big. When I lose it all, y'all can't take me. I'll be dead. We're going to take a break. We're going to take a break.

The Bald and the Beautiful is supported by FX's English Teacher. From Paul Sims, the executive producer that brought you What We Do in the Shadows, FX's English Teacher follows Evan, a teacher in Austin, Texas, who learns if it's really possible to be your full self at your job while often finding himself at the intersection of the personal, professional, and political aspects of working at a high school.

I cannot wait to see this amazing new show with the preternaturally hysterical Brian Jordan Alvarez. It's from the producer of one of the greatest TV shows of all time. And can I let you in on a little secret? A certain Miss Trixie Mattel makes a guest appearance on the show and whoa, it is a sight to behold. Take it from me, a connoisseur of quality television programming. You do not want to miss this show. FX's English Teacher premieres September 2nd on FX. Stream on Hulu.

Today's episode is brought to you by Angie. Angie has made it easier than ever to connect with skilled professionals to get all your jobs and projects done well. Let me tell you, there's the version of it where you try to do something at home and then there's a version of it where you have someone help you, you watch them do it the right way and you go, thank God I didn't try to do that myself.

I have fully done things around the home that I think look good and then a bang in the night and I wake up to a shelf collapsing, a painting falling off the wall. Like it, I've seen it all go south. I own a home and I can tell you, I know how much work it can take. Whether it's everyday maintenance and repairs or making dream projects a reality, it can be hard just to know where to start. But now all you need to do is Angie that and find a skilled local pro who will deliver the quality and expertise you need.

Whatever your home project, big or small, indoor or outdoor, you can Angie that and connect with skilled professionals to get the project done well. Right now, one of my wish lists is I want a bike for my condo in Milwaukee and I would love to rig it up on a pulley in the ceiling because I have one of those like lofted ceilings.

but I'm so scared to try that on my own. Angie has 20 years of home experience and they've combined it with new tools to simplify the whole process. Bring them your project online or with the Angie app. Answer a few questions and Angie can handle the rest from start to finish or help you compare quotes from multiple pros and connect instantly, which means you can take care of any home project in just a few taps.

Because when it comes to getting the most out of your home, you can do this when you Angie that. Download the free Angie mobile app today or visit Angie.com. That's A-N-G-I dot com. And we're back. Hey. Because I have to say, it was just your body. When your first kind of reveals pictures came out, it was your fucking body is amazing. And I got to say, I've been looking at your Twitter.com profile. We did our research. And Mary...

Like I was like, oh, oh shit. Wow. Okay. Like you really, I was like, uh-huh. Uh-huh. The things you can't work out also are great. The things you can't grow through exercise. You got a great ass.

Thank you. Great ass. Are you okay with us talking explicitly about your beautiful body? Yeah, you don't. And also... I prefer it. Okay, great. Thank you so much. I mean, you're a wonderful drag queen and I'm just happy that... Yeah, blah, blah, blah, drag, whatever. It's fun. When we talk about beauty, we talk about like...

You should be happy with the body you have. If it's like super thin, super chubby, somewhere in the middle, you should still love it. So like, when did you start to reach your like, I'm sickening body status? And did you reach that? Cause I don't, you know, don't let her put her words into your mouth. I think, I think it was, um, I think it was like when I started only fans, like I was proud of myself when I had lost all that weight and was super fit. And then I was proud of myself when I put on all that muscle and,

But I still was like, well, I could do this. I could do that. You know, I could do this much more. And that's still in the back of my head. But when I started my OnlyFans, you know, at first I was panicked. And I'm like, oh, God, this is going to be terrible. But then everybody was so nice and great about it and horny. But then it was like...

Oh my god, yeah, I'm okay. Like, okay, like, what, you know, like, yes, I'm gonna continue to work out and see how much buffer I can get, but I'm proud of myself, and the cool thing, I mean, the cool thing about when I started The OnlyFans is that I no longer gave a shit, and I've never had that feeling in my life, and I, like, my give a damn is broken. Like, I don't give a damn anymore, and...

I wish I had that mentality like when I was on Drag Race because I walk in and said my lines and people were like, oh, oh, okay. And then I immediately was like, what? What's wrong? What's wrong? Or like if I do a show and one person in the audience is looking at me weird,

I'd be like, what's going on? Is my hair falling off? Do they not like this number? And I didn't realize I was doing it. I always just thought, I don't get nervous. I don't get nervous. And it wasn't like insane nerves, but I didn't realize I did that until this. And now I go out and do a show now and I'm like, who cares? Like they've all seen me naked, I'm sure. Yeah.

Like if your tuck pops, you're like, they've seen it. Maybe they'll tip more. How long did it take you to sort of develop that attitude from the start of your OnlyFans? Like was it immediate? And was it from the support of like your fans or whatever? It was probably, yeah, it was probably like two days. Oh my gosh. Like it was just so insane when I kicked it off that I was like, I was expecting like 10 followers.

You know, so when, when I quit because of her, you quit what? I quit only fans because of her. Because you had to shut it down. I had to, I was like, I can't compete with Sasha. I'm just shutting mine down. I have to say drag queens are never seen as attractive to anyone. And that's why I like it. It's sort of like, yeah, you're the only person who is extremely hot and doing drag that I'm rooting for. You're the only fuckable hero in drag. Yeah, honestly, because it's almost like,

You're a veteran drag queen. And it's interesting that this new venture has made you like a better drag queen. Do you know what I mean? It's crazy. It's, thank you. I mean, thank you for that. But, but yeah, I, I,

Maybe I sound vain when I say this, but I agree. I feel like I'm more free and creative now in my drag that I don't give a fuck anymore. When you say don't give a fuck, it's really just like you don't have hang-ups or you don't have... I think she means that. Oh, that's it. I'm obsessed with this picture. You guys all need to go to Sasha Bell's. It's Sasha Bell with a Y, her Instagram, because the way you incorporate your mustache into your drag...

It's so brazen because your mustache is so big. It's big. And so dark. It's Tom Selleck from Magnum P.I. It is literally Tom Selleck. You got to do that as a little cosplay come Halloween time on the OnlyFans. Those shorty shorts. Just your ass eating them up. I'll lip sync to Tom Selleck. There you go.

Can I ask, I don't think people normally at a bar, let's say, see drag queens as sexual in any way. When you became like the body type you are now, did you notice the boys were different to you? When I'm in drag? No, like out of drag. Like, were you suddenly like, am I sexual to everyone? Do you...

Is everyone just restraining themselves and trying to fuck me at all times? Do you have a Trixie level of delusion about your sex appeal? In that you're like, wow, people are really doing a great job of not coming when I'm into the room. I just mean like, okay, people are fans of you from drag. Great. How did your DMs change, let's say, in the past couple years? So online it's changed, but in person I don't...

That's what I was saying earlier. If people are different in person, I'm oblivious to it. I don't catch up on... I don't...

You don't see all them people jerking off. She's a Midwesterner. I bet all your mid as a Midwesterner, I'm sure all your girlfriends, the drag Queens are like, you're always going to be a disgusting cunt to me. Yeah, yeah, yeah, exactly. I'm not one of your school friends. I walk fast too. So maybe I walked through the room too fast to, you know, to catch them jerking off. But, um, my, the, the DMS, I mean, it, that's been, that's been crazy. And they're so funny too. Like,

Because a lot of them will comment on how hot I am, but then how much they hate Frisbee. So they'd be like... You're kidding. You're kidding. They'd be like, wow, you are so hot, but why the mustache and drag?

Wow. Well, I noticed that on like, you know, you're, you say very clearly and with, you know, capital letters, this is not a drag account or whatever. You know what I mean? You separate them and make that clear distinction because people seem to be looking for one or the other and not both. I really like your drag.

I don't mean to say it like, I liked it. Because one time someone's mom came up to me after a show and I had really bombed that night. And she went, I liked it. But I mean, you look different in drag a lot. You do all different hair colors, looks all the time. Yeah, I get an eclectic look. Thank you. I mean, yeah, before it was like... The big thing about Iowa City before Drag Race...

like BR before RuPaul was like, it was just pageant. It was pageant, pageant, pageant. Everybody did pageant. And I started, Trixie, you know this, I started as Frisbee Jenkins. That was my first name. And I was like, I'm a comedy queen. And then all the drag queens there were like, Myrna, listen. I'm sorry.

That was so funny. And they were like, Myrna, listen, if you want to be taken seriously in the art of female impersonation, then you need to do pageants and you need to have a more sensible name.

And so I changed my name to Sasha. Oh, my God. It's so funny. Sasha Bell is a... It's a very sexy kind of fun drag. Sounds like a porn star. Yeah. Sounds like a porn... Yeah, but, I mean, like, I had fun as Sasha, and, you know, I like that kind of drag, too, where it's just, like, very, like, Jaina Bell drag. You know, big hair and, you know, flipping your hair. Beautiful. Well, she don't dance, but, you know, like, that kind of drag. I love watching it, but it was very...

It was I was anxiety ridden doing that drag, you know, and I was on the show as well. And I think if I would have walked in with the goddamn mustache on my face and, you know, was frisbee, I think I would have had more fun and not, you know, second guess myself and everything, you know. Would you do it again?

As Frisbee? Absolutely. I would love. That would be great. Do you remember when you came out as Hot, which was really brave, by the way, and everybody was like, you should do Pit Stop. Would you do Pit Stop? Nope. Pit Crew. Sorry. Would you do Pit Crew? I'm not offering you my job. That would be so fierce. Pit Crew. Yeah, would you do Pit Crew? The first queen to do Pit Crew? Sure. Why not? Yeah. It seems like a fun gig. Yeah. Yeah.

They do enjoy it. I think it's a fun little part-time gig. And I've done some prides with like Jason and Bryce. And they're so funny because they'll do like meet and greets. I would have them switch the costume though. Shoes but no Speedos. Are they barefoot? They're fucking barefoot. It stresses me out. No holes in there. It stresses me out. For just the pins on the ground? For just the price of...

a cup of coffee a day, you could put shoes on the feet of the pit crew. They don't have them, you know, the coming to America sweepers, like going, you know what I mean? Like they need to sweep the path so that those little poor men don't get in the arms of the angels. How did you think of... I think I would struggle with it because those studios are so cold. I remember when we were doing our promo look, I was in that latex, which makes you sweat normally. And I was holding that tray of cupcakes and I was like...

And there are all these productions all in their winter coats and stuff. And I'm like, can we turn the goddamn heat on, please? Hollywood Center Studios. Love it. Yeah, a crisp 32 degrees always. Always. Yeah. I live just a few blocks from that studio. And whenever I jog by it, it's always so surreal to be like, that is where we shot season three. And you mentioned the promo day that we did the promo for season seven. Yeah.

You know, that did not age well, I would say. Can we be vulnerable on this day if you want to talk beauty, the bald and the beautiful? To follow season six, which was glitter cannons and RuPaul turns into a panther. Yeah. What did we get? Vignette. They had like personalized vignettes, sometimes multiple vignettes. Somebody lied to her several times. Several times. Somebody lied. I remember walking out and seeing just that white thing.

that white screen or backdrop or whatever. And I was like, so you guys like gonna do something? When are we building the set?

Basically, I would let season seven know that she's a fat cunt. Yeah. It was very, you walk out to a white wall and you're like, oh, they're going to pop off in post. I get it. Yeah, yeah. This is Hollywood. Yeah, yeah. No, Mary. Nothing of the sort. And then they said, we want you to walk in several times. That's all that happened. They fed you a corny line and then they said, yeah, we're going to shoot you flat white. You guys were in the morning group too, I remember. Oh.

Oh my God, that was terrible. Like the 8 a.m. call to me, remember? Oh yeah, but I loved that. There was a fun day. We all looked like shit. Yeah, that's why Pearl, one of the most beautiful drag queens ever, did not have a good showing that day. But it didn't shave her beard. Didn't shave her beard. Talk about bravery. Talk about bravery. That bitch looked toe up. And we only say that because she literally transcends. In and out of drag. Her nowadays, we got to get her on the pod. She's too busy in the woods, Mary. Girl, conjuring. In the woods.

She's the conjuring. She's the conjuring. She's the conjuring three. I love to keep up with the girls. How did you think of Frisbee Jenkins? Reno 911, there was a character named Frisbee. And I liked it. I don't remember where I got Jenkins. You know, that's an inspiring tale. I'm glad you put so much thought behind it and really, really created that.

That's like, I love Trinity Taylor. I asked her why she's named Trinity. And she said, because I started drag around the time the Matrix came out. I was like, okay, don't tell anybody that. Please don't tell anybody that. Can you believe? There's this iconic, beautiful, beautiful pageant queen in Milwaukee. And her name is Betty Boop. And I always was like, you really just picked that name. What's your drag name? Sharon Stone. Dusty Springfield. Yeah.

Michelle Obama. Can't ever Google her. Can't Google her. Can't find her. She's a treat if you see her. So you get to make all your own content. You've never had to do porn with the studios. Yeah, I want to ask you about this. Like, do you ever feel... Like a plastic bag? Yeah.

Like a plastic bag. Do you remember that was her number? Sailing through the wind. Over and over. Oh my God. Plastic bag. And I'm just in denim overalls next to Miss Fame, who's, you know, in couture at the premiere on the top of the... Oh yeah. Didn't she do like, didn't you do like a Minions look? Yeah. We're like denim overalls, like a yellow shirt. Yeah. Glamour. Glamour. Yeah. Glamour. I win glamour.

That's the pageant Iowa. That's the Iowa pageant system. Denim overall six. That's a category. That's the pretty bell mystique. The pretty bell mystique. Oh my God. Wait, wait, I want to ask you. So what have you, what are you like, I'm trying to think of like a sensitive, not dipshitty way to ask this. Like what are your limits on, on posting an only fans or they're like things that you would not, I don't know. How do I say this? Like,

What are you most like? What's your boundaries? Like, what are your boundaries with only? Yeah. Like, how do you approach that? Is it kind of like whatever you feel like doing and you just do it?

Yeah, I mean there's a lot of things I see on Twitter where I'm like, you know, you know, you're like Who's this Twitter account then you go there and then you see someone like getting fisted that hurts my Heart to see someone get fisted. So that's that's a no for me. I'm sorry, but it's a no Anybody who likes getting fisted that is great, but it makes you know, my heart hurt. I that's a lot and

You know who I was asking Angina about fisting once on the cruise And she was like I've done it And I was like do they like it She said yeah because my arm's so little I can just That's what she said I believe that's what she does That's the sensitivity that she brings to the But if you want to start fisting Angina is a great place to start She's a great training wheel Yes

This grown man, you could kill someone. It's so funny that you mention that because half of my friends are like, they take the whole thing up their ass. Good for them. That's awesome. I can't watch it though. It looks so painful. It's asking a lot. It's extreme.

And if it wasn't extreme, people wouldn't be as into it. So I think it's okay to admit that it's purposefully a little shocking. And a lot of that, that like pleasure is about limits, pushing limits and whatever. Yeah. I don't get it personally. Um, sounding. No. Oh, no. I see. I can't even talk about that. It's like it. I, I will unfollow someone because I can't see that. I'm like, you're giving yourself a catheter. Why? Why?

But I mean, kudos to the people that love it. You know, that's. Then I mean, I have to say in the defense of those people, I didn't like grow up jerking off to anal sex. That didn't sound like something that would feel good either. True. Or yes. Or eating. I just have the visceral response to it. Eating ass was disgusting to me when I would like first came out, you know, and now it's like, if that's not in a porno I'm watching, I'm like, why bother?

I want to see it. But yeah, I mean, so I mean, maybe someday I'll be sounding and fisting. I don't, I don't. Maybe someday I'll be sounding and fisting. The sound of music with Frisbee Jenkins. Holy shit. And the music's just your fucking huge blown out cow pussy ass. Just like, we're going to take a break. And we're back with the incredible Frisbee Jenkins. What's your boy name? Oh yeah.

Jared. Oh, I did know that. It can only be Jared. I was afraid you were going to be another Brian. Oh, God. I wish. Because we're both Brian. You could be Brian with a Y. How do you spell Jared? J-A-R-E-D, the right way. Okay. And then what was just the last four of your socials? What are your hopes and dreams in the year? What do you want to do with your drag and adult film career? Oh, wow. Okay, so... You fucking drag? That's it.

That's a great question. Well, I just bought a house. I got a lot more space now. Oh, cool. For fucking and drank. You put on that wig and you fuck the man. I got more room now, so I want to set up like a studio and get my YouTube...

going again. We haven't made anything in a while. We want to make another Real Drag Wives of Iowa City. You guys should check it out on YouTube. I had so much fun doing the drunk makeover with you guys so many years ago. Oh, those were so fun. The Ginger one, she was so busted. She threw up in the trash can. In the middle of it. Probably the least disgusting thing she did that day.

Do you remember her face? Do you remember when you go, we're going to do white on the bottom? It's going to be like Trixie Mattel. And she looked right at the camera and her eyes were really wide. And then she threw up. Love it. Those drunk ones were so fun. You still get into the drinking? You still do the binge drinking on a regular basis? Sure, yeah. I love that about you. I had so much fun. Remember, I came to do Iowa, is it called the Garden? The club?

Oh, Studio 13. Yes. Me and Kim came once. Remember at Pride a few years ago? And there was that incredible Cher. Her name is Cass. No. Anyway. Oh, Candy. Candy. Yes, it's Candy. That was such a fun gig. You guys have a good energy down there.

Great. Yeah. Thank you. I mean, like, yeah, that's why when I kind of got sick of touring or, you know, after Drag Race, I was like, I just kind of want to be home with my girls, you know, because they're awesome, you know, and it's like you guys were talking about with Violet on your last podcast about touring by yourself. It is it was hard for me like to be in an airport all day long and then they take you to your hotel and you get ready there by yourself.

like every place I went, I was like, can I get ready at the bar? Do the girls get ready at the bar? Like, yeah. And then they think you're weird or something, or I don't know. It's like, it's strange. Yeah. It's, it's a little, it's a different thing. Having your camaraderie of like seeing the same girls, it makes you like,

I don't know. I used to get more excited to get ready than to actually do the show. Well, yeah. Also because like, you're not, what drag was never like a high paying, like, um, thing. So it was always about the experience, the fun of it. If it like, you know, when it's not fun, it's really like kind of bizarre. Yeah. It's bizarre. Yeah. It's also weird to get, jump out there and get on a mic when you've been by yourself for 10 hours, you know? It's like when you're shooting the shit with, you know, all the entertainers backstage and,

It keeps your wit up, you know? It keeps you on your toes. I like it. Andy, I always remember the bar more and remember the city more. I like to leave the bar feeling like I know a couple of the people there. Yeah, with some cherished memories to take home. Well, Jared, Sasha, Frisbee. Thank you so much for joining us. That's the name on her birth certificate. Jared, Sasha, Frisbee.

Please let everybody know where they can find your drag or a healthy helping of. Yeah. Dick balls and ass. Dick balls and ass. Where can they see them? Dick balls and ass. Yeah. Oh, you saw that post, huh? Sure did. Which one? You can find, you can find me on Instagram at Sasha belly. It's just Sasha bell with a Y at the end. I would change it to Frisbee, but they won't let me on Insta. Um,

And Twitter, oh God, what's the Twitter name? XXLSasha. Jesus Christ. I got it bookmarked. Have you ever had sex and drag? No, man. Would you be open to it? Well...

She sounds like she loves it. The long pause and then the smacking of the lips and then going, well, like I'm asking you to put a gun up your ass. Rarely is that going to be followed by, yes, absolutely I would. Well, you know, Myrna, I haven't tried that yet. You know, I don't know. It would be, I mean, that just sounds like a lot of work. It's already so much work getting up and drag and

And then to have sex on top of it, that sounds like I need a vacation after. Yeah. And like, what if he's fucking you and he's like, oh, Frisbee, you know? Does it take you out of it? Oh, Frisbee, you know?

Call me Frisbee. Sometimes the drag girls would change their hooking up name to something very similar to their stage name. What if you did Frisbee? Frisbee Jansen. Frisbee Jansen. Fist me, Jenkins. It's just a suggestion. What's the name that's close to coffee? Katie. Katie. Katie. Katie girl. Katie's on Katie. Katie Bonaduce. And I would be

Tracy. Tracy. Yeah, Tracy Martell. Easy. Tobey Maguire. My porn name will be Tobey Maguire when I switch to OnlyFans. When I do scenes. I don't think OnlyFans is. No, because people will be like, I'm going to Google Tobey Maguire nude and then they'll get me. Oh, it's just you. And after they got their card information, guess what? Bald, faggy fuck. Can't cancel. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Totally. Oh my God. How about, so please do the Magnum PI cosplay.

That would be great. I will. I will. Okay. Hey, I tagged you in a post today. Someone made sleeves for your feet and there were toes on it. It looked like, yeah, the sheer illusion toenails. Yeah, absolutely. Yeah. I'm on it. I'm on all the latest feet in arm technology. I'm abreast. Have you guys ever seen the nude, the drag queen nude body suits that have the airbrush toes?

Yeah. And also panty toes. Yeah. Yeah. One time I was at a gig in Madison, Wisconsin, and this queen, Amalayuleta was her name. And she was wearing one of those suits to do like a nude illusion and no shoes on. And before she goes on stage, they go, you want to put some shoes on? And she goes, oh girl, I don't need shoes for this. And you hear Kim from the back 40 go, no shoes. Like Kim was so scandalized that a drag queen would go on the stage with no shoes. Also, it's disgusting. Well, we'll leave it at that. Yeah.

I just love you. I'm so happy you could come on. Congratulations to all of your journey. Yeah. Thank you very much. No, I, I appreciate you guys having me. It's good to see you. Yeah. And I, along with many fans will continue to look forward to seeing pictures of your cock balls and ass and Dick Dick balls, ass, titty hole. Thank you, Sasha. Bye. Bye guys.

you