Let the Goode Times Roll with Gigi Goode
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I have a really bad Australian accent. I just, I love it though. I think it's because I'm so worldly that everywhere just seems like everywhere. To me, it's the most charming for sure. What's charming? It's the most charming. Do you watch Kath and Kim? Kath and Kim. It's like, look at me. That's my trigger for Australian is the look at me. Look at me. Look at me.

Bogan. Bogan, right? She's the right bargain. Bargain. Like kind of country. Yeah. Yeah, right. When Iggy was here, I tried to do the accent for her and she was like... She was just offended. Is she Australian?

Oh, that's right. Her name is Iggy Australia. Oh, Igloo Australia. Yes, it's Igloo Australia. Did you know that she got her stage name from, she did the drag queen thing of her pet in the street she grew up on. Her first animal was Iggy and her street is the street her family still lives on. That's great. That's really touching and charming. What's your drag name have been? Um,

It was pet and pet and pet. And then your, your pig cock slave name, fucking pig slave name, honey, shove that big fucking pig cock right in that hole, honey. Oh,

It's like chestnut lassie. Neko Bergeron. Oh. Sliding down the grease pole. Yeah, weird, right? I feel like that's a- Neko? Neko? Neko? Yeah, Bergeron. Neko was the street name and what was- No, Neko is the pet. Oh, it's pet first? And then street name. Neko Bergeron. What would yours be, Gigi? Of course, we have Gigi Goode here today, by the way. Hi, good morning. Get into it. She's from the legendary House of Goode. Good morning.

Good morning, good morning. What was that? Good morning, look at me. Look at me. Look at me. I'm Celine. I'm Celine.

There's a Peter fall in the school. Peter. Yeah. Oh yeah. I think my name would have been Tonka Winslow. Tonka Winslow. Tonka Winslow. We had a dog named Tonka growing up after the truck. It was my brother's choice. And we had to, my dad gave him away when we moved without telling us. Oh.

So if this is Drag Race, I would try to bring that back to how it hurt you and it affected your drag today. What would little Tonka have to say? That's just where all my references come from. What would you say to little Tonka? Little Tonka. We love you. We're going to get rid of you. Sorry, my dad sold you to Bob the Plumber. Sorry. Oh, man. You're right, babes.

Do you think, you guys like the UK drag race, huh? Love. Love it. Love. Love. Love, love, love. Ginny Lemon. Ginny Lemon. Ginny Lemon had me on the Croc website the other day seeing if they have pink Crocs. Uh-huh. They don't. Okay. They do have yellow for men and they do have white, but they don't have pink. Do you think they have like a Santy Alley of, uh,

Of Crocs? Because I mean, you know, the platform Crocs are like Balenciaga originally. But I don't know. Something's telling me she's not wearing Balenciaga Crocs. Something's telling me the same thing. And that's the only place you can get those knockoff of Santielli. She had platform Crocs? For the promo she did. Oh, the promo. That's right. In yellow. Maybe they gave her a pair.

Maybe, yeah, maybe she might have stole them. She's going to get a lot of free shit that's yellow from now on. Oh, yes, yes, yes. I love her. I think she's so crucial for that whole show to have. Yeah. I've done the pink thing less, but I did all pink all the time for like years. If you had to pick one color today...

That you have to wear forever. Green with red hair. Oh, green. Oh, so good. Yeah. Good choice. Like an emerald? Yes. Very like forest emerald, darker green. With like the turtleneck you have on right now? Yes. Is this a demi permanent hair color? Demi. Can you see my roots coming in? I'm...

I'm asking because when you have a deeper hair color, you can do red like this without having to lift or really change it. Oh yeah, it was demi-permanent for sure. It was much more vibrant when I started. It looks great. It looks very natural. Thank you. It's gorgeous. Appreciate that. How old are you? You look 12. I just turned 23. 23. Yes. This one's 48. I'm 48 years young and...

She's 38. Oh my God. That's why I was gagged actually. I stopped because she believed you. Oh, 10 years ago I stopped joking because I would say I'm like 15 years older than I am. People are like, oh, you look good. Not even by, it was so, I'm like,

Sometimes social cues are hard for me when it comes to people joking about things. So my brain automatically goes to believe what they're saying because they're probably telling the truth. That's a good instinct, actually. Well, when I found out Pandora Box was 75, I was totally gagged. Yeah. You almost had me there. That's the biggest gagger we need. You almost had me there. But I mean, I look exactly my age, I feel like.

Maybe a little older. I'm 31, but I think I've looked 35 and older for a while. So I'm hoping that since I looked old young, I'll get older and people will be like, you look just great. You're going to Benjamin Button. Totally. I'm going to Benjamin Button. Wouldn't that be nice? You're fucked. Yeah, you are fucked. Because you look young now. You have a little bit of, you know what she has? What? Obviously, I hope you take this as a compliment. Oh God. Sigourney Weaver. Oh.

I'm trying to, I've seen Sigourney Weaver. I'm trying, because you have a, you have a structure, a bone structure that is so, it is like precise. Yeah. Thank you. It's not like, you don't have one of those wishy-washy faces. Do you know who Sigourney Weaver is? Yes, of course. This isn't Drag Race. If you don't know the reference, we're not going to shame you. No, I do know who Sigourney Weaver is and I'm very honored that you've,

got to do a working girl Catherine Parker fantasy so when she was the rich bitch boss in that you I mean that would be so cunt that would be so great I've been I've been searching for some references to uh to pull lately so and when people think of your drag they think lack of references lack of knowledge of fashion flat hair flat hair

No makeup on. Casual Friday. Clavicle. So fat. Someone recently sent Violet a DM with a whole slew of insults. One of them was, you're heavy. Yeah.

Violet has the tiniest waist. She's just really dense. Yeah. You are heavy. You're full of bricks. The content you put out is very heavy. It's so funny to me. Emotionally. Was it great being able to walk for, you did Fenty this year, huh? I did. Fenty, yeah. Fenty. It's lovely. It was very, very fun. Seemed very choreographed. Um,

And the amount of takes that all those dancers did. Keep in mind, there was like 80 dancers. And they were going hard. They were going hard. Like full out every time. Enough for me and Shay to just be standing on the sidelines for a good hour and a half waiting to go on. Damn. It was really fun. Was it scary? Terrifying. It was like the first big.

thing. Because that's a fucking big thing. Yeah. That's a huge thing. I haven't done anything since the premiere at Mickey's. What are you doing this week? I'm in a major women's lingerie campaign. For what are you doing? What are you doing? Run by the biggest star in the world. Yeah. What are you doing fat old cunt? I'll be modeling the lingering. I'm walking with Rihanna fatty. Hey flops. Rihanna and I are walking in underwear. Bye flops. Bye.

It's wonderful. You know, in a year where, um, we talked to Jade about this in a year where, you know, you guys really didn't get to enjoy the same built in experience that we got. I'm glad that there's nuggets like that, that will stand the test of time. Well, and, and they also stand out. Cause if it did like way more than I think it would have, if I had been like city, city, city, Oh, here's this opportunity to Savage Fenty, do it and then leave more city, city, city. Right. I really got to like anticipate it and then afterwards absorb it and feel like it was like a really special moment. Yeah. So, um,

granted, I mean, I do kind of feel like our window of that whole experience is gone and I'm at peace with that. You should be because honestly, I don't always remember bars I played until I'm in that town at like an after party and I'm like,

I performed here. You've been here. Yes. I smelled something. But I never remember the names of, you know, the clubs or anything. Well, it gets overwhelming, I'm sure, because there's not enough time to process, I'm assuming. Yeah, and all you know is the dressing room and the stage. And when you're visiting a bar recreationally, you don't have either of those POVs. Yeah, that's true. So you're like, have I been here? Right, exactly. You said on Hey Queen, is this still true that you've had not met any fans? I've not met a single fan. I haven't. I haven't. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I'm sorry.

I'm sorry. That is so cruel. That is wild. It's insane. And it's like, you know, like, it is crazy. I'm laughing because how can you not? It's absurd. The universe is so cruel. It's absurd. It makes you think at night when you pray for something good to happen, have stipulations. Totally. I hope I get on Drag Race. But if I do, can I not have a pandemic? Let me tell you a secret. But right before...

Right before Drag Race aired, I was so nervous and I was like, I don't like traveling. Well, it stresses me out a lot, like the airports, airplanes, everything like that. So right before Drag Race aired, I remember we I had just gotten home from the House of Avalon's house and I was really like excited and anxious for the announcement. And I remember it was 1111. And I said, I really hope this year I get to have as much work as possible and spend as much time with my family as I can.

You got it. And I think I brought upon the pandemic. I respect the hustle. That is fierce. But I'm also sorry. But you know what? It's not about being, I think at this point, there is no tone deaf. There is no read the room. It's okay to look at the situation and be grateful for what it provided. Exactly. And it's, I mean, everyone says their experience is different. And your House of Avalon, you guys are like family. You got to spend this whole year together. Totally. Creating. Absolutely. Which has been incredible.

Incredible. And going back to the not meeting any fans, I very much have the mentality that everything online is not real. That's a great mentality. That is so healthy. And can I just say this? Can I just say this? Go ahead. And you know, on this show, I like to get vulnerable. I want you to say it. And on this show, no one ever lets me speak my mind. Oh, no. I get cut off. On your own couch. I get cut off on my own couch. I'm here blabbing all day. I can't get up. I think that you're smart because people go on televised drag shows and they get wrapped up.

in the internet comments. Way wrapped. If you're being bullied, you need to turn off your phone. Exactly. If you're being cyber bullied, you need to get off the computer. Some of the girls just don't. This season, the fact that Drag Race has to make like, please don't bully the girls. I said, the girls need to get off the computer, sis. And listen, you cannot. Okay. It's like trying to control the weather.

Hello. You cannot control the weather. And most of the time, the people, there are the things that these people are saying they don't actually mean or believe. They just want to be the first one to get a retweet. And for me, the realization, and this has been happening a lot with Candy as well, my realization was when my mom started sending me DMs that people were sending her.

That is, I mean, yeah. The thing about candy is, and I only know her very little, but this week specifically, I'm like, I hope candy has somebody in her life reminding her that the internet is not real. They put the phone down. You don't have to engage in it at all. Yeah. Cause these whores, they don't know shit about drag and you do. Yeah. So fuck these people. Yeah. I know it sounds awful. No,

Fuck the 12 year old in Omaha or in Idaho or Brazil or whatever. If you've made it onto the Olympics of drag, then you have the right to be up on your pedestal. You think Gabby Douglas is at home like, you think I'm short? Yeah. She sure isn't. You're Gabby Douglas. Fuck those people. Everybody on Drag Race, you have the right mentality and I think a lot of girls get there.

It sometimes it takes a while and there have definitely been some girls on my season that have definitely gotten the short end of the stick when it comes to self-worth, when it comes to the perception of the comments and everything, they've let it get to them. And I think they've all kind of come to their senses since, but, and also there's the, there's a difference, a huge disparity in the volume and amount of, of, of sort of online hate that people get. Some people get done. Some people get a ton. Yeah. Again, it,

nobody's coming, nobody's knocking at your door and like with the pitchfork. There's no angry mob outside of your house. Yes. And it's hard sometimes too because, well, you know. And get your hole ready. Some of the girls on my season have definitely had some angry mobs at their doors as well. But it also comes with the, since there's been no meet and greets, a lot of the times the girls who are getting bad comments online can rely on the fact that people have bought tickets to their meet and greets so they know there's going to be some positive feedback.

Yeah. So now the influx, you don't get the only attention that they have is the non-physical, the non-real and the hate, which most likely is always an extreme. It's so wild. Every drag queen out there, all of us who love you, you, you owe it to yourself to just fuck those people. Yeah. You know what? I've, I mean, I don't care if next week, Kenny Muse punches someone in the face and looks right at the camera and goes, I meant it. And I loved it.

You're Candy Muse and you're fierce and fuck all those people. I want a t-shirt of Candy Muse that says arrogant. That's what I want. Seriously. Yeah. And those of us who stan you, we're like, don't pay attention to them. Fuck them. Yeah. But one thing I did see was that at least there's a recognition that it was a great episode, that there was a great TV. And that's the point. Exactly. That is the point. Separate yourself. Yeah. Yeah. That's where it ends. And she is, I mean, her bio literally says Candy Producer Muse. Yeah.

She knows. She knows. And I just, I have to say, you're very fortunate to be so young and have that level of confidence. You know what I love? And I know you're probably over it because it was on television a long time ago when RuPaul had concerns and you said, I understand your concerns. I do not have the same concerns. RuPaul has never been stood up to until that moment. And he was like,

I literally saw, I think I like, that's why I saw one of his eyeballs pop out. Because, you know, you could go in there and say, I love my choice. It's going to be incredible. He's like, do you think it's too incredible? Yeah. You were like, no, thank you. I don't want to participate in that. Yeah. Well, for me, that came from the off camera. My other two choices for Snatch Game, me being like, I definitely can't do my other two choices. So I'm sorry, but I don't have the same concern as you. I'm going to do this one. What were they? They were James Charles. Oh my God. That's fierce.

Can I ask, are you bothered when people say you look like him? No, because I definitely see the resemblance. I don't at all. He's a fabulous makeup artist. It's a great person to get compared to. He's also 19. Exactly. Physically. And he's gorgeous. Yeah, he's beautiful. My other one was Kristen Stewart.

Oh, that's a fun one. Interesting. That fucking robot, it was so fucking good. Thank you. And it was so, I mean, it was like the perfect Snatch Game. The perfect Snatch Game. It was really out of, so like doomed to fail.

I thought that might have been the episode I was going home. It works so well. And let me tell you, I was bricking it up on the stage. Bricking it? I was bricking it. It was so well done. You did lots and lots. I mean, it didn't rely on this kind of like, okay, you know, the same kind of joke or the same kind of response. You had a whole lot of variation. It was really, really fun to watch. And I don't like watching the Snatch Game.

Really? It can be. I love watching the Snatch Game. We've talked about it before. Snatch Game is so quick to watch, but in real life, it feels like a turtle crawling. Oh my God. And no joke lands because there's no one to laugh. Yeah. Nothing feels funny. Okay. So moving on. So does your mom still sew for you? Yeah. She does. There has been a bit of a lull. I've, you know, like.

As with everyone has throughout this pandemic, it's kind of felt a little bit like lack of inspiration here and there. And I've been kind of trying to dip into different other types of like female illusion and stuff like that, which often doesn't require a campy handmade costume. That being said, I'm very much over that little phase and I'm trying to get back more into the camp and everything like that. So my mom is currently...

sewing her fingers down to little nubs for me right now. You better put that whore to work. You better put that whore to work. She has a flickering light bulb in a warehouse somewhere. The only source of light is on her machine. A black smoke coming through the chimney. Her ankle. She has an ankle monitor. If she gets five feet from the sewing machine, she gets shocked.

Mom, we love you. We're obviously joking. Do you do your own hair? I do. I have never ever in my life worn hair that anyone else has styled. Okay, Mary, because I've got to tell you something right now. I saw you on that fucking Hey Queen show and that red hair was so fucking good. Thank you. Do you do hair for other people ever in your life? Yeah, I have. I mean, it's just not something I've ever like really advertised. That's what I did when I first came to LA is I would do a lot of wigs for girls. It's fantastic. Could you pause your career and do hair for her? Yeah.

Please. Honestly. Slow it all down. Yeah, let's do it. If you'd like to see Katya in a Gigi Goodway, comment below. I'll just give you that red one. Yeah. It is. And I, I honestly, I feel like, I mean, now it makes sense. Like, cause your, your, your, cause your skin and everything, you look sensational, but that, that,

Bright red is hard to pull off, I think, for drag queens. You do it really well. Thank you. It doesn't look like a joke. It looks legitimately seductive. Yeah, it's really great. Thank you. It looks so milky. Yeah. Thank you. Lovely. I think you wear the right amount of shading on your face for that color. Thank you. Because I think reds, especially when you're fair, can just make you look like a skeleton sometimes. Well, I think one of the most important questions I've ever been asked about my drag persona is what is her natural hair color?

So like, I'm assuming, I'm assuming both of yours. We've never been asked that. You haven't? Okay, so what's Trixie's natural hair color? Brunette. You think? I think bleaching your hair blonde is a totally different energy than growing platinum hair. And I think Trixie bleaches it every six days. You are right. Okay, I love that. Because it's trashier. Yeah. I like, I've always liked the idea of, uh,

a paparazzi barging in and Trixie doing her roots. And that's like her version of a nude. Yeah. People find that for sex tapes. People find out. It teeters the line of the trashy, but it also teeters the line of like the stunning Gwen, like never a root in sight. Yeah. She's a brunette naturally. I also found out that Trixie short for Patricia and I'll never be the same. So my name is Patricia and I'm a brunette. Patricia. Trixie. Trixie. Hi Trixie. What's your natural hair color? I,

When the question was asked immediately, the word came into my mind, brown. Gray. Salt and pepper. Salt and pepper. The pubic texture. Salt and pepper, pubic texture. Salt and pepper, pubic texture. If you ever write a song, remember to use that as a verse. Like if it was like a COVID special, it'd be bleach blonde, but the...

- The first four roots of new growth is silver. - Is silver. - Silver. - Brillo. - Yes. - One inch of Brillo silver with then just, yeah, yeah, yeah. I get it like flat iron. - Like you got hair transplant from the pubic hair. - Yeah, yeah. - That is so fierce. - That's so funny, oh my God. - What an interesting question. I think everybody should be asked that. - Yeah, great question. - Yeah. - You learn a lot about yourself. - I guess I have an answer. - Yeah. I have never thought about it before in my life, never. We're gonna take a break.

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And we're back. So what have you been up to, girl? What's keeping you inspired? You know what? I am, I mean, you hear this all the time, but I'm happy to say that like there are everything I'm working on right now involves an NDA.

which is that's love the railing. And I will also say it, I'm working on several different projects, all on very broad aspects of creativity, all, all walks of, you know, what have you, I have like designing going on makeup, collabs, professional sports, professional sports. I've, I've gotten into soccer and water polo mostly. Um,

but it's, it's exciting. Cause it's things that I've like, the reason I auditioned for drag race was to do these things that I'm currently working on. Yeah. That's awesome. Which I'm loving in the middle of a pandemic. Mind you. Well, you know what the irony is? If you toured all this year, you wouldn't have time to do any of that. Exactly. And you might've showed up like, uh, exhausted and half drunk or something. One of these opportunities, you know? Right. So I'm a drinking problem. Um, not yet. I'm working on it. Yeah. Um, I, I, I lately I've actually been trying to prove, this is,

save space do you have a drinking problem would you like one

I'll take two. Oh God. I've been trying to prove the house of Avalon wrong because I, I'm very much always the first one to go home and the, the one to drink the least. And they are like, Simone is a party animal. She loves to drink. Hunter loves to drink. I love you girls over there. I, I met them when I, did you do sway in little Arkansas? Sure. Fuck you did. I remember that video of you as a cheerleader. I loved it so much. Those whores turned. That's when I met Benton girl, Tyler.

Oh, with the Uggs? Yes! This drag queen, Benton Girl Tyler. Benton Girl Tyler, for short. I wouldn't say it's quite, it's not the drag you'd imagine. It's a female illusion. It's a gay man in a blonde wig and a low pony with like a Von Dutch hat and jeans and Uggs. With a hole in it. There's always a toe poking through the Uggs. Yeah. Oh, that's great. And that it's every single look is a variation of that. Like no foundation, but really glossy lips all the way around.

love. Arkansas. Arkansas. Crazy. But I will say without the House of Avalon, someone like Benton Girl Tyler would not have had the opportunity to perform. Totally. And they have definitely created the space for that. They left it there for them and then came across to LA to create a new one. It was one of the most glamorous, fun, interesting gigs I've ever had.

It was fun in that place. But up at the top, I felt very, very that girl. And then walking down and going into the stage, I felt very that girl. I love that the stage is all mirrors behind you. It's really cunty. It's fucking cool. Yeah, it was fantastic. As far as like wiggle numbers go, I felt like, yeah, I felt like Paula Abdul. And I went to the after party at their house at the time. And that's when I met the House of Babylon. And they left such a strong impression. And then they showed up here and started doing Snap Out of It. Yeah.

And then one day I didn't realize they moved here. And one day I walked by the bar and I was like, oh my God, this is, there's people from Arkansas in the VIP booth. Is this your party? Yeah. And they're just so great. You're so lucky to be around people like that. I count my blessings every day. Yeah. And I live right across the street from them too. Do they keep you in check? Yes. And that's why I need them. They say, wake up, you fat, ugly bitch. Pretty. Yeah, pretty much. Hi flop. I know. Wake up flop. We need friends like that. Yeah.

Well, it's Hunter is the one. Hunter is the one that keeps you in check. So like if I ever go on tour, he's going to be the one that's throwing pillows at me and dragging me out of bed. He's got dead mother vibes big time. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah. He's fantastic. I love his personal style. He makes me wish I was a vampire. I know. He looks like a, he does, he gives big time. Lost Boys. Lost Boys. Oh, the 80s. Oh my God. That is one of my favorite movies.

movies. So sexy. So sexy. Yeah. He and Mark are like one of the sexiest people. Very unrealistic. It's just it's just it's disarming because they're so down to earth. It's like bizarre. It's like if a Backstreet Boys was with a lost boy and they were both really nice. They were both really nice. The Lost Back Boys. Yeah. The Lost Back Boys. They're like really it's so like sweet and there's no pretension. It's bizarre. Yeah. Yeah.

Pretty amazing. Unlike you, pretentious whore. Pretentious, absolutely. Can I ask a question we ask all our guests? When did you know you were beautiful?

Um, I just found out the other day actually, and it was quite the, I got my letter finally in the fireplace, which I didn't have a fireplace, which got me good. Um, I don't know. I've my, my mom has always told me every, every day that I am like great and amazing. And so I've just been like keeping that with me since I was a child. And, but in a way that's not like, you know, there's like those only, only kids out there that, um,

Definitely. Insufferable cretins. Yes. Because of the fact that they've gotten nothing but praise and you're the best, you're the best, you're the best. My mom definitely kept me grounded, but definitely let me know like, you're not the best, but you're the best at what you do. And you are, you know, no one else compares to you. You're entirely different. Your mom is Sinead O'Connor. Oh. Nothing compares to ooh. To ooh. To ooh. It sounds like you got raised right. Yes. Thankfully. Yeah. Thankfully. That's great. And I mean, I owe all my drag to that.

I love that she's like, you're incredible. Don't get me wrong. There's people cuter than you. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. I got other kids who are better singers, better actors, but you're cool at what you do. But she also didn't give me a window into looking at anybody else when I was a kid, so I didn't know who any of the pop divas were. I didn't know any of that. Like, to me, it was Donny Osmond. It was Karen Carpenter. It was... Like, that was my...

Have you seen the documentary Superstar with Kieran Carpenter? With the Barbies? So fucking cool. I was just actually in New York with Gina and I let her know that I was a Kieran Carpenter fan and she said, hold on, I have something for you. And she pulled out a rock. Gina Garan? Yeah. She pulled out a rock and gave it to me and she said, here's a rock from Kieran Carpenter's grave. This is the last kidney stone she passed. Yeah.

It was huge. Yeah, huge. Gina collects, she's like the OG collector of, oh my God, what's her fucking name? Blythe. She created Blythe. Yeah, she basically created Blythe. Do you know about Blythe? No. Blythe was this doll from the 70s, completely unpopular, total flop, wasn't on sale very long. People didn't respond to it very much. And then what, in the 90s or 2000s, Gina Garan wrote a book as like a tribute to the history of the fashion of this doll no one liked.

And all of a sudden people are like, what is this doll? It's so chic. Where do I get one? Really? So this vintage, no one cares about toy is now like one of the most hard to get expensive collectible. And she's a stunning little doll. Beautiful doll. How does it compare to Kelsey over here or whatever? That's Dusty. Dusty. I love Dusty. The first time you pulled out a Dusty in a video, I have had pictures of that doll saved on my phone for so long just to use as reaction photos. Yeah.

She's so good. I love how many you have. I'm not kidding. I probably have the world's best Dusty collection. You really do. No one wants it. You really do. Right next to RuPaul right up there. I wish I'd gotten one of those.

The new one is different, right? The new maquette, it's like a... Yeah. They told us they ran out when it got to our season. Oh, for fuck's sake. Mine broke several times. You have... I have two of them. One from All Stars and one from this. And then you have the gold one, don't you? You have the gold one, yeah. So you got the Miss Congeniality one. It's that, but chrome. So I have three. I got three. Yeah, I got three of them. And they're all broken. They're all, yeah. They're not... You should just piece them back together with

I should yeah I don't want to expose anyone but I believe when I won all stars I was supposed to get one of those plated in gold the new ones and it never happened World of Wonder if you're listening World of Wonder come on I think I was actually in my dusty phase when I went to Arkansas well we always do you remember Katya's tanning phase I got very tanned at a moment the hair too I'm pretty sure you were wearing that hair as well yeah

You remember you came in to the hotel and I was baking? When I mean baking, I had slathered bodybuilder tan. She used bodybuilder tanning solution. Oh my gosh. Like the color of a football. So when you wash it off. And metallic. But before you wash it off, when it dries, it is, I mean, it's like tar. Blood. Yes. And so I opened the door almost naked with that on and I gave her a

right. But I was also tanning in the sun bed. Yeah. It was double duty. That was crazy. I remember you and I were at a college gig and I was backstage just like incredibly tan. Yeah. It was like, it was like, I never really, I didn't tan long enough to know how to do the face with it. Like how to,

appropriately like match the foundation no like what kind of eyeshadow to use and how do you know what i mean like i think if you're really tan the only shadow is blue don't you think oh absolutely with like a white cream base on it first yeah the white or i mean you know white frost yeah and then the lipstick like a tanorama like yeah frost i can't that i can't do though no i love that you're

Can I ask another question? We asked all of our guests. Who's your ultimate take my breath away inspires me every time beauty icon? Give us three because I know you can. Give us three. Give us three. Linda is my number one. Linda Hamilton. Yeah. Linda Perry. Linda Perry. Well, okay. Well, now you just named my three. So...

That's quite the trifecta. Hamilton, Evangelista, and Perry. That's pretty fierce, actually. I would say Linda Evangelista. That's who you fucking look like. Well, she's my... I want to mirror her career. I want to like...

wear any hair color and make it look completely natural that's the goal um number two would be Daphne Blake from Scooby-Doo oh good one the character yeah which one is Daphne the one that Sarah Michelle Gellar played with the red hair the red hair purple you like Sarah Michelle Gellar as Daphne Blake um yeah I like for me it's more the cartoons for her like the very unrealistic body proportions and the hair that never moves Daphne and Velma is the one with the glasses Velma's the one with the glasses she's not

um oh wow you really said fuck velma you velma's lesbian now right yeah maybe well she always has been yeah people always hypothesize she's like like what's her name in peanuts there's peppermint patty and then marcy who's like her lesbian lover i think yeah don't you think velma's like i'm too smart for all this but i'm in love with daphne so i'm here oh i can see that this one's for the girls yeah yeah bowl cut poor poor velma daphne just doesn't have

Velma is chic though. She is. I will say I do like her outfit. Absolutely. But Daphne's hot. That purple with the red like hot.

Oh, she's hot. She's hot. And you know Fred dicks her down in the back of that band. I don't know. Shaggy's got a dirty dick. Shaggy's got a dirty dick. Shaggy's got a dirty dick. I don't think Fred's not straight for sure. Fred is not straight because the whole theme throughout the show is that he always dismisses Daphne. Yeah, faggot. She's always fawning over him and he's always clueless. Yeah, he wanna fucking He's working on his traps. He wanna fuck the dog.

I want to fuck the dog. Scrappy. Who's the third? Um, don't throw me off the cliff, but Barbie. I'm not going to throw you off the cliff. Yeah. She's, she's always, always, always been it. Mostly for me, it's the, um,

the variety in careers. Hello. Cause when I started doing drag, my thing was like occupations. Like I would just dress up as different jobs and occupational therapy. I would get in drag. I would go to people's houses who'd had a fall on the, you know, on the clock. Mine's occupational hazards. Great point of view. Yeah. When you first start drag, because it,

Everything you want to do, there's a reference for it. What the proportions and colors could look like. And everything ties together, always. Yes. There's always that running theme. And I kind of think the message that's always been there, whether sometimes it's definitely been questionable in the beginning, it's always been you can be whatever you want. And as a little girl myself, I was like, fierce, I'm going to be. What hasn't Barbie done? Um...

Janitor maybe? Yeah, medical billing or like, she's been a, obviously she's been a waitress, right? Yeah. I don't think she was ever a repo guy. Yeah, she's never been a repo guy. Assassin. We haven't seen Barbie as an assassin. Well, we may have, but it just might have been disguised. Disguised. Yeah, yeah, yeah. President. Embalming. Embalming Barbie. Yeah.

Physician's assistant Yeah But even at the time Like you can't judge Today's standards by Of course not But Barbie in 1959 A single woman with breasts Who had no husband In her own apartment That was basically The most offensive thing Anybody had ever heard Very And incredibly unrealistic But something that little girls saw As completely possible Yeah

So you don't get to meet the fans in real life. Do you get a lot of DMs then from the kids? I was going to kill myself, you know? Yes. I'm not making a joke. No, you're right. And, um, what the first time I had gotten one of these, uh, I was talking to Naomi about it and she was, cause it came from her. Yes. Yeah. I can't believe Naomi Campbell wants to kill herself.

Well, I saved your life. No, but I, Naomi was like, well, be prepared for it to happen in person too. Yeah. At the meet and greet. It's, yeah, it's interesting. It's, it's a very hard, like I often battle with even the concept of having a family

or being someone that someone looks up to or an icon. For me, I'm only doing this for myself. And it's just an amazing plus that other people are enjoying it and loving it with me. But it's really hard to grasp the concept, especially since I haven't met anyone that anyone is a big fan. And again, when it comes to social media not being real for me,

I often do read everything and I can disassociate from all the bad stuff, but I find myself...

not reaching for the messages just because I don't want to see the negative as much. Yeah. I think that's a good thing. It's good. I mean, I think that's... Your job is to provide the content. Exactly. Yeah. And if they want to write letters to Santa, they can write letters to Santa. They get a release from it knowing that maybe you won't see it. I mean... Exactly. Anything is a bonus. I mean, anything you decide... That's why I feel anything you decide to do is extra. And like, you know, if you're always going to be...

It's always going to be responding to something good rather than... Don't worry about being perfect. Worry about being Gigi good enough. Good enough. Gigi meh. Gigi meh. She's not great. She's good. She's good. Exactly. We're here with Gigi Flop. Oh, God. I mean, that's really... I'm really impressed, but also maybe not surprised because I feel like you're 23. Yeah.

you maybe have more of a natural facility with navigating social media. And also the fact that you don't think of it as real is very encouraging to me. Very encouraging. I would think not to stereotype that

Yeah.

You know, so like the age group that is like three to four years younger than I am, I do think takes a lot, you know, as a generalization takes it a lot more seriously. And, you know, when I like the first time I had a phone was when Instagram was coming about, you know, so I was like.

Interesting. I started Instagram very humbly, posting just pictures of whatever the fuck I could find. Oh, yeah, it's neat. Me too. And now there's kids that are starting Instagram with the intention of, I need to get over 1,000 likes on my first post. That is so crazy. And it's sad. We've talked about it. The aspiration of, you used to be an influencer because you had influence, because you do something that people respect. And now people aspire to be an influencer because,

Period. Right. But think about it though. And it seems crazy, but if you, I mean, it's, I was thinking about it the other day and I was like, it's, I mean, it's a, that in itself is another thing of like, I have to, it's just an extension of their personhood that needs to be developed or else dun, dun, dun.

You know what I mean? If they don't have a growing follower count, like they're failing at life. Do you guys think there's going to be people like, I think there'll be a little bit of a Renaissance where there's going to be people who unplug from it entirely. There's going to be more young people who flat, not having social media is going to become the new cool. Yeah, exactly. No, I agree. I think so. I agree. Number one thing in a potential like mate that are like a, like a boyfriend, like that would be the number one most attractive thing. The last,

two guys I was involved with had no social media. No social media. The most attractive thing in the world. Yeah. Mine is having never seen Drag Race.

Oh yeah. That's, that helps too. That's my number one. Yeah. That helps too. That's tough because then you're going to have to break, but at least when they've seen it, you don't have to tell them what you do for a living. Exactly. You know what though? A lot of times drag race isn't cool anymore. So it's like, it's, it's not like, I mean, I'm talking just in gay, like in the queer community. It's not cool. You're right. And the gay guys love it, but they're not enthusiastic. They don't claim it the way they used to. Right. I mean, I'll watch it, but they're not like going,

Going out to watch it with people. They're not making it like an event. They're not proud that they found this nugget.

They're like, yeah, we all watch it. Of course, it's NFL. Exactly. It's sports. Exactly. And like, you know, yeah. I mean, I screamed at it. I was with a couple of gay guys that I don't usually watch anything with. And we watched it and screaming at the television. Screaming. And it wasn't even on. It is fun. The TV wasn't even on. One person would come on the screen and we'd just go, ah. Yeah. Well, it's fun. And of course, but the key component in that is,

keeping it in that room off of the screens off of the phones like it's okay to fucking hate someone's outfit hate someone's attitude as long as you're doing it with your friends it's fun and you're not taking it that seriously as soon as it goes from finger to phone oh never yeah i think that's smart gg because you're you are amazing you're so talented and beautiful and um so far so nice but we'll see how this goes i know wait till the microphones turn off but there's oh there's always going to be people you're going to find this

that you go to the club and there's gonna be someone who just goes like, I didn't really like you. And you go like, okay. You know what I really want for you though? Like, do you remember when we first started traveling? Do you remember the first time there was like a huge bar with a thousand people there screaming? And you're like, how is this possible? I would love that. And it's going to have the same impact. Or like flying to Brazil and it's thousands of people in a nightclub and you're like, how do they even know who I am?

And you'll need a security guard to prevent the people from grabbing and pulling. It's insane. You're like, how is it? I don't deserve it. I mean, it is. It's a magical experience. I want it. You'll have it. You'll get it. Absolutely. Eventually. Yes. No one wants her. For us, for our season, it was the letdown.

expecting to get it and then the 100 to 0 instantly for this current season they already knew so they're approaching it in a different way so it is a little bit different so you know what though everybody being stuck home means you had the most captive audience ever

And the buildup, the edging. I mean, you've been edging the crowd for like, you know, for a year or whatever. But that's what makes it harder to keep doing more and more and more until you get the chance to, you know. Usually it's, you're at the top, you see everyone, and then your drag just starts to decline because you're just constantly traveling. You're talking about us like we're not here. You're talking about us like we're not here. Here comes that attitude.

You're such a gift. Yeah. Congratulations on a wonderful show. Very excited for you. Thank you. You had one of the, I think just like couldn't change anything about the way people find you on Drag Race. Thank you. That means a lot. Yeah. Really. Your promo look fucks me up. I think red, white and blue is so hard to make look chic. Yes. And the Evel Knievel thing. I'm like, you better work. Well, I'm a slut for a challenge and a prompt. I love it.

love a prom oh yeah i love it especially when it's hard to to work around and i was not about to be one of the girls that was just gonna use the colors and like a silhouette that i normally do i was like it's red white and blue we're gonna go with something yeah everyone knows we need a narrative let me ask you about this because this came up i think um with simone um and

The, the, you know, cause now like Violet was on the pit stop, right? And she was talking, I mean, it was, she sure was. If you guys haven't seen Violet on the pit stop, that was the friendly edit. She said so much more shit, you guys. Oh my God. Some of those looks, she would just go, no. And I go, what about the next look? And she goes, it's not a look. I mean, and then,

I'm just going to say it. La La Ree, they cut, Violet just said, I didn't really like it, like cut. And Violet was like, gave a monologue to all the people that that look was a slap in the face to. Like production, everyone you're competing against, RuPaul, every drag queen and the entire audience who watches the show, you just told them you don't care. I mean, she let them have it. I mean, when I watched it, that was the episode we watched with, with, I,

I watched with other people And it was like Kiki Like it was Screaming Yeah I thought that She should have been eliminated As soon as she got off the runway

Lala? Yeah. Angela was at home going, finally. This is a person I got eliminated at a ball challenge for wearing a boo-boo outfit. But it was sewed. That's the thing. It fit. It was horribly styled. It didn't make any sense. But it was still a garment. The ball was gutted. I've realized that this season is not about, there have been some really great runways. It's not about that.

this season. From the judges' perspective, this season is about star quality and personality, who stands out. You know, that's what it's about. You and Jada ended fashion. Fashion's over. Over. Completed. Sorry, Boll. Sorry, Flop. I love sorry, Flop. Sorry, Flop.

high flop is the best thing ever what's on your like when everything goes back to normal obviously traveling what's on your dream like yeah as a go be gg the star well i'm i'm dying to i've built some really amazing relationships with some brands and houses and designers and i'm

dying to walk in shows. I just like, and I know there have been queens in the past who have. I don't want to walk in a show as a RuPaul's Drag Race girl. I want to be cast in a show as a model. And just, I want to do, I want to work as a model. I want to work as this kind of like non-binary, can do either

I mean, that doesn't seem impossible, especially because a lot of times, the Fendi one, they're mixing menswear, women's. I feel like I see a future that is not very far away where there's no men's and women's. Exactly. I'm excited too. Especially couture. Why should there even be? There's more and more kind of genderfied.

going on with that and I'm happy to model out of drag in drag what have you so that's whatever dick balls and pussy yeah low hangers and titties yeah so that's one thing I also just want to do I would love to do like kind of

corresponding red carpet. Oh, yeah. That would be really fun. I would love to just stand on a red carpet and read someone for their outfit. Do a house, do a revamp of MTV's House of Style. That kind of thing. I mean, that would be amazing. Oh my gosh. It's really funny that you say that. Are you friends with Violet? Not close, but we have... No one is. But... No one's close. We've tried. Yeah. Some of us have tried to use... You can't break it.

She does this fabulous program where she pulls from the archives, like she'll just pull a show from 12 years ago and she'll look by look, say what she loves about it. You could do it on your YouTube. Absolutely. And I want to do that with Marco Monroe. That would be great. Because I mean, his perspective on fashion is something I've never seen before. He's fantastic. He's, I still...

I will not get I've been cleaning out my closet for years and years and he made me three dresses that are so fucking they're so unique I could never get rid of them

I can't wear them anymore. I can't wear them. I went to the Streamys and I have this other white one. The black one at the Streamys with the glasses? That was cool. It's so beautiful. And I gave him these fabrics. I went to London and got these incredibly overpriced fabrics. I brought them home. I was like, here. I said nothing. I was like, I don't know. Just take the fabrics and please make whatever you can. And he's incredible. He just knows. I mean, it's like there's a fine line between talent and gifted. And he is definitely...

And he's hot too. I know. Like how dare you? He knows how to wear a hairpiece. Oh my God. Do you think he would come on the bald and the beautiful? Absolutely. Cause he is a champion of baldness. Absolutely. And he's got some really fun. He has some unit. It's a unit. And I didn't, the first time I met him, he was wearing one of those. And then when I went to the after party at their house and he just went, stash that thing right off. I was like, Oh,

hot both ways that motherfucker I know it's really rude if men are gonna wear pieces develop that relationship with it we're like we all know it's a piece mama it's fun it is fun but dying your hair is fun that's not quote unquote real who cares oh my god you should totally have it he has some great perspectives on the industry Marco if you're listening we'd love to have you yeah

you know, I should jerk off before we do that episode. Oh my God. I'm sorry. Cut that out. No, don't cut it out. People know who you are. Yeah, yeah, yeah, exactly. You are allowed to be a guest, but you do have some sex ahead of you here. Yes. You're going to have to rail this pig on the couch while I talk about the weather.

She only laughs 12 seconds and then she goes down for a nap. So I noticed you said earlier that you kind of have one of your dream attributes for a man would be to, to not watch drag race. Any other things on the menu? Dream wishlist for the man? Um,

Maybe not quite as severe as Violet, but a sense of style. Yeah. And you're not quite as uncompromising as she is. Like you can be butt ugly, but if you have a cute belt, I love that. Yeah. I love that too. Exactly. And I'm the same way for me. It's not as much as like you need to be wearing this brand or this label or something, but you need to like, I really respect and appreciate someone and I'm attracted to someone who knows how to dress themselves. Like,

Like us. Exactly. Right. You know, thoughtful, effortless. Yeah. Yes. Well, it's, it's,

It's different when it comes to like drag too, because for me, it's not like if you're a drag queen, more often than not, I'm thinking about it in drag for you. Yes. Rather than out of drag because you know, could you date another drag queen? No. Okay. And I have, okay. I just, for me, I'm a person. I couldn't do Paul. Yeah. Can you imagine? Oh my God. Transgenerational love stories. May, December drag romance. Mama, that's January and December. Yeah.

You're wondering why I didn't win. Oh my God. I would say that, yeah, so it's just, I just love someone who smells good too. Oh yeah. Picks a good fragrance. Okay. I love a fragrance. I'm with you on that. Yeah. I am a snob for fragrances. Because I'm a smoker, it's very important to me. For someone else to smell good. No. Yeah.

Because I smell like shit. I always smell like shit. So I have to, I'm, there's always a fragrance at arm's reach and like, but in, if I, if I, yeah, if I see a Drakkar Noir on the shelf, I don't like it. Well, oddly enough, another thing I'm attracted to is like the smell of smoke on someone too. Interesting. Yeah. Well, you'd put, you'd take the smell of smoke with a little Tom Ford and then you're good to go. Were you white trash? Ugh,

Oh, I was white picket fence. I've been with guys where they have like liquor on their breath and I'm like, why does this turn me on? Well, I love guys who smell good. Something I was first liked about David was he just always has like cologne on and all that. Yeah. Yeah. That's me too. The first guy I fell in love with. Yeah. Incredible. Well, thank you for coming all the way over. Yeah, of course. Fantastic. It's so much fun. I had a good time. Where can the children find you? Um, well, I'm, um, on a,

On a hiatus right now, so nowhere. I'm just kidding. Did you delete your account? Oh my God. That would be so chic. That would be so chic. Honestly, Instagram is the main portfolio for me right now, so you can find me at the gggood there. Twitter is my house. You do those damn TikToks with the shoes? No. You kick the shoes? Thank God. There is someone who took my name and has like 70,000 followers on TikTok, so props to them. No, no, no. You write TikTok and you get the name unmarked.

I did. I used to be Trixie Mattel 8 and I got Trixie Mattel. But I don't want TikTok. Okay, good. Then don't have it. But can I get it? I mean, I love being Frederica. Do you want mine? No. Fuck.

- You can have mine. - Now we're talking. - You can have mine. - That is so confusing and weird. - Can you guys have each other's? - That would be incredible. - And it's never explained. - That would be incredible. It would never show our faces. - The Gigi Kid and it's just you being like, "Woke up today feeling Gigi." Hashtag me. Like, "Feeling Gigi." - It's just recording you feeling me. - It's you in the baby filter. It me, Gigi. - That is so funny.

Okay, bye. Bye.