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205. Babur: The Taking of Delhi (Ep 2)

2024/11/21
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一位在UCSF从事生物化学和分子生物学研究的科学家。
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William: 本集回顾了巴布尔早年经历,以及他在征服印度北部建立莫卧儿王朝之前的关键事件。他强调了巴布尔作为一位杰出的日记作者,以及其在军事和政治上的才能。同时,William 也分析了巴布尔与沙伊巴尼汗之间的冲突,以及巴布尔与萨非王朝结盟的复杂政治背景。他深入探讨了巴布尔在赫拉特的经历,以及这段经历对巴布尔个人和其政治决策的影响。最后,William 详细描述了潘帕特战役的经过,以及巴布尔如何利用先进的军事技术和策略战胜了伊布拉欣·洛迪的军队,最终征服德里。 Anita: Anita 从巴布尔在赫拉特的经历入手,展现了巴布尔对当地文化和生活的惊叹与适应。她重点描述了巴布尔在赫拉特所受到的文化冲击,以及他如何快速地融入当地社会,并学习了诗歌、书法等艺术技能。Anita 还分析了沙伊巴尼汗对巴布尔家族造成的巨大打击,以及这如何促使巴布尔与萨非王朝结盟。她强调了巴布尔在赫拉特与加兹加的经历,以及这些经历对巴布尔个人和其政治决策的影响。此外,Anita 还探讨了巴布尔在征服德里的过程中所展现的军事策略和政治智慧,以及他对德里的文化遗产的尊重。 William: This episode picks up from the last episode of Babur that we did. And if you become a club member, you will not have to wait for these episodes to come out in such gems as maxi spread that you can't see, but you'll be able to hit all of the barber episode to empire pod UK. Up com. That's empire pou k. You don't just cat cmp ge with our little many series, but you also get early access to any tickets if we do live shows and a weekly news letter is a magazine, it's very ground. pretty good. And they should put that photo. It's including a book discounts. which actually add up. Even people seem to buy the books that we're talking about. Yes, I know people complain that we've made them buy books, but you know, if, look, we're making you buy books are also trying to mitigate that pain by giving you discount. So join the club today. Empire port U. K. Dot com is where you'll find us now. Reminds us, Young man, where did you leave this? And where did you leave barber? So we were talking about the life of barber, who is the extraordinary character who's roughly the sort of contemporary of Henry the eight. So maybe one generation before him, hundred and th, if you're looking from English history, point of view, and bubble is remembred for two things. He remembered in India for the fact that he conquered northern India and established the mobile dnestr. But he's also remembered for being one of the greatest diis in all history. And my greatest pleasure during lockdown, was editing and writing an introduction to the bible. Numa, so this is stuff very close to my heart. And it is bubble. The writer that I admire and am obsessed with. I think the the section that we're going to be talking about in this episode is one of my all time favorite episodes. Because when we ended our last episode, which described his childhood, how he had inherited this kingdom in the vegan, a value what is now as Pakistan, and then had to watch both he and all his cousins lose their patron and be kicked out. And by the time he was only twenty-one, he was a refugee, wondering, with all his family, with all their goods on their backs, and then his fortunes turn and throw a series of remarkable accidents as much than the else he captures couple and manage to reestablish his dynasty and become just refugees, migrants, any less hopeless migrants, without any lands to their name. He managed to reestablished them and settled them in, under, around couple. And there then follows in the book, which I do think probably my favorite section of all, when he goes to visit the one remaining timid kingdom, his cousins who have taken over the western Afghan city of a rat. And what's lovely about it is the barber who's quite a self-confident figure in his book. And and for example, when he goes to India, he's very clear that he comes from this superior, central and culture where everything is symmetrical and need and logical. And the regards India is so dusty and ot and not to his taste, but it's the reverse. When he goes to her at, he feels himself the mud booted provincial and to hit stars. Memories of me when I was a kid coming to visit my cousins in London and being both sort of frightened and gosh, and feeling unsophisticated, but both then and my first teenage parties in London, I was the Scott's boy coming from the countryside and didn't have the clothes or the manners or the small tool.

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Babur, despite his self-confidence, felt like a country bumpkin amidst the sophistication of Herat. He describes his awkwardness at parties and his speedy education in poetry, calligraphy, and other arts. This experience marks a turning point in his life, awakening the poet within him.
  • Babur's self-perception as unsophisticated in Herat
  • His quick education in various arts
  • The awakening of the poet in Babur

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“In Herat a man can’t stretch out his leg without touching a poet’s backside” - Babur

It’s 1506, and Babur leaves his beloved base in Kabul to visit his cousins in Herat, Afghanistan. But whilst he is shyly standing in the corner at parties and receiving a speedy education in poetry and calligraphy, his nemesis Shaybani Khan sacks the city he had left behind. Babur is now one of the last Timurid princes left, and to ensure the power of his family lineage does not die out, he enters a controversial alliance to help him defeat Shaybani Khan. In 1511, Babur launches military campaigns in his homeland of Uzbekistan, but why does he turn his attentions to India instead? And how will he succeed in conquering this new land? 

Listen as William and Anita discuss Babur’s life in Afghanistan, and the build up to his invasion of India.

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