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Megyn Kelly on Life After Mainstream Media

2024/10/1
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梅根·凯利:我认为我的播客之所以成功,是因为我的真诚和坦率。我更看重观众的尊重而不是喜爱,并且我承认我的观点并非唯一正确的观点。我不会为了赢得观众的喜爱而误导他们。我以前在福克斯新闻和NBC的工作与现在不同,现在我更愿意表达自己的观点。我不会谈论自己对堕胎的个人看法。我认为世界发生了变化,这让我在某些问题上的立场发生了改变。我认为自己是中间偏右的,并非极端保守。我尽量避免让个人情绪影响对新闻人物的报道。我认为特朗普攻击的是“梅根·凯利记者”这个品牌,而不是我这个人。我是一个非常宽容的人,不会因为别人对我的评价而与他们断绝关系。 我曾经与特朗普、纽特·金里奇等人发生过冲突,但我尽量避免让个人情绪影响我的报道。我认为特朗普主义已经成为共和党的一部分,并且会长期存在。我不认同任何一种极端的政治立场。我不认为塔克·卡尔森越界了,我相信他在二战历史方面是专家。尽管我对塔克·卡尔森的一些观点不认同,但我认为他总体上是积极的。塔克·卡尔森会冒一些别人不敢冒的险,即使他的某些观点可能存在争议。我不认同亚历克斯·琼斯的观点,特别是关于桑迪胡克事件的观点。我认为应该保持开放的心态,对每个人的说法进行调查研究,然后再下结论。我不认为塔克·卡尔森在丘吉尔问题上的观点是反犹太的。我认为即使在阴谋论盛行的时代,也应该坚持事实,避免阴谋论。我认为乔·罗根不应该被禁止发表言论。我更倾向于让更多的声音被听到,而不是更少。 我认为自己对变性手术问题的关注度提高了,因为这会对未成年人造成伤害。我认为对未成年人进行变性手术是一种社会现象。我不认为民主党在文化战争问题上的立场有所改变。我认为独立媒体正在战胜主流媒体。我认为美国最高法院的保守派法官将有助于恢复秩序。我认为人们通过播客等方式进行的对话更有成效。我认为埃隆·马斯克收购推特是一件好事。我认为年轻一代正在对身份政治产生反弹。我认为我的播客的收视率很高。我认为未来媒体的发展方向是个人与观众之间建立直接的关系。 Michael Moynihan:我认为很多人不喜欢传统媒体,因为他们觉得传统媒体会歪曲事实、隐瞒信息,甚至为了政治目的而服务。近年来,独立媒体蓬勃发展,为传统媒体提供了一种替代方案。人们渴望获得公正、未经过滤的信息,但独立媒体是否总是值得信赖?独立媒体,特别是右翼媒体,经常出现推测和阴谋论。我认为传统媒体对言论的限制导致了人们对独立媒体的渴望。我认为在这些讨论中保持中立立场的人通常是最成功的。我担心那些极端人士会影响到特朗普。我认为媒体在处理这次总统大选的方式上正在损害其自身的信誉。我认为自己在2016年大选期间避免了对特朗普的过度批判。我认为ABC新闻的辩论是一场灾难。我认为ABC新闻的辩论主持人对特朗普的不公平对待是可耻的。我认为独立媒体的兴起反映了文化时刻的变化。

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This chapter explores the decline in trust for legacy media and the rise of independent media as an alternative. It questions the trustworthiness of independent media and the need for guardrails and editorial processes.
  • Decline in trust in legacy media outlets.
  • Rise of independent media: podcasts, Substack newsletters, Twitter, YouTube.
  • Question of trustworthiness and need for editorial processes in independent media.

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Megyn Kelly cut her teeth in the mainstream media and became one of the most influential voices in the political debate. From her meteoric rise at Fox News to her stint at NBC), Megyn Kelly has been a central figure in American journalism for over a decade. 

You might recall her contentious exchange with then-candidate Donald Trump during a Republican presidential debate in 2015. Kelly asked him about the names he’d called women—such as “fat pigs” and “dogs.” Trump’s response), in part: “I’ve been very nice to you, although I could probably maybe not be, based on the way you have treated me. But I wouldn’t do that.”* *He later went on CNN and accused Kelly) of having “blood coming out of her eyes, blood coming out of her—wherever.”

Kelly has since abjured the mainstream—she now hosts a podcast) on SiriusXM and YouTube that has fast become one of the most popular political shows in the country. Her success captures the broader media shift away from brands like Fox and NBC to more personal, one-on-one relationships between commentator and consumer. (For example, she’s let her audience know she plans to vote for Trump, despite their past quarreling.)

People are hungry for unbiased, unfiltered information. And in the last few years, there has been an explosion of independent media: outlets like ours here at The Free Press, podcasts like this one, Substack newsletters, Twitter feeds, YouTube shows—all promising an alternative to the mainstream. 

But is independent media always trustworthy? Does it need some of the guardrails and editorial processes that were once common at legacy outlets? Because if one peers into this independent—and often right-wing—media landscape, one cannot help but notice the frequent descents into conjecture and conspiracy theory, from commentators like Tucker Carlson, Tim Pool, and Bret Weinstein. 

While Megyn is normally the one doing the grilling, today it’s her turn in the hot seat. Michael Moynihan and Kelly discuss the role of conspiracy theory in our current discourse, where she stands politically these days, how the legacy press is handling the presidential election, how she says she avoided “Trump Derangement Syndrome” even as some of Trump’s most die-hard supporters showered her with threats, and her guiding principles as a journalist.

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