10/10/24: Mark Cuban War On Lina Khan, Quarter Of Israelis Want To Flee, Fox Reporter Calls Out IDF Killing Journos, UFO Whistleblower Speaks Out
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Let's go now to Mark Cuban, to Lena Kahn. There's been a great war. We talked about this previously where there had been efforts by Reid Hoffman, the Democratic mega-donor billionaire, to oust Lena Kahn on television. She is the FTC chair under President Biden and has been very aggressive on antitrust, specifically in Silicon Valley. Well, now Mark Cuban, who has really emerged as a major Kamala surrogate,

let's put this up there on the screen, has come out in a recent semaphore event

to say, quote, if it were me, I wouldn't ask if she should keep Lena Kahn as FTC chair, quote, by trying to break up the biggest tech companies who risk our ability to be the best in artificial intelligence. This fits with a general strategy by Cuban to not only serve as a surrogate, but to do so for a very specific purpose in that he wants to be the head of the SEC under Kamala Harris. Let's take a listen. But I

Let me ask you, Mark, whether you would entertain being a Treasury secretary, a Commerce secretary in a Harris administration. Head of the SEC.

Head of the SEC, that's the job I would take. That is a man who knows exactly what he wants because Cavuto is like, hey, are you going to be the Commerce Secretary? He's like, head of the SEC, head of the SEC. He knows exactly which one he's going for. This is, though, and it will be an interesting fight if Kamala does win. So we had Senator Bernie Sanders come out. Let's put this on the screen. He says Mark Cuban is wrong. Lena Khan is the best FTC chair in modern history.

history by taking on corporate greed and illegal monopolies. Lena is doing an exceptional job preventing large corporations from ripping off consumers and exploiting workers. Thank you, Lena, for what you are doing. This is also interesting because I saw David Sirota making this point. It is now that the Republican vice presidential candidate, J.D. Vance, has had better things to say about Lena Kahn publicly, at least publicly, than Kamala Harris herself, who clearly has a disparate billionaire coalition at the top, which is very broken up.

about how exactly she should govern, how she should have policy proposals and all that. And I think this will be a flagship test for her. I'm not sure which way it'll go. If I had to bet, I think Cuban's gonna win. Yeah. Well, in the specific job that he's angling for head of the SEC, that's the Securities Exchange Commission, Gary Gensler is the head of the SEC right now. And the Mark Cuban billionaire types of the world are

They not only hate Lena Kahn, they also hate Gensler. And specifically, they hate Gensler because he has been hard on crypto. He's been, I mean, he's just like applying the laws to crypto. And so a lot of the, you know, a lot of people in the tech billionaire world, you know,

They are really adversarial towards Gary Gensler, too. So Mark Cuban signaling he would be friendly in a lot of regards if he was there as head of the SEC. And it's one thing if you were like, oh, this guy's just out there freelancing like a billionaire, just like saying, I hate these attacks on corporate power. But he is an official Kamala Harris surrogate.

And he has made it clear in the past when he was criticizing the approach of the SEC, which is their approach is just literally actually enforcing the law. He was critical of that and he was asked effectively like, are you saying this or is the campaign saying this? And he was like, the campaign told me, she told me to say these things.

So, you know, it's, yeah, it sucks because the best hope for Kamala from my perspective would be that she would be more like Obama on foreign policy. A little, you know, he had the Iranian nuclear deal. He was a little bit more adversarial towards Israel. I'm not overstating the case, but he was certainly better than Joe Biden. And that she would be more like Biden on domestic policy where the FTC, the antitrust stuff, the labor stuff, the, and I'm not saying

I think she labor seems like she'll be, you know, more or less where Biden was on labor as best as we can tell. But the SEC, you know, skeptical approach to crypto that she would carry over those pieces. And, you know, at this point, you just have to say the indications are very worrying that she'll revert to the Obama era, very Wall Street cozy type of approach.

relationship towards Wall Street and Silicon Valley. It makes sense in a certain regard, since Kamala Harris was Attorney General of California during the time when a bunch of these tech companies were rising to be the monopolistic behemoths

that they are right now. And she did not scrutinize them whatsoever. A lot of her donor base came from that world, etc, etc. And so on the one hand, yes, the Biden-Harris administration has actually been really good on these things. In fact, we could put up D5. The Justice Department under Biden-Harris is now considering asking a federal judge to actually break up Google and sell off parts of its business.

So they have been certainly the most skeptical and the most tough on these giant tech monopolies and a lot of other monopolies as well have really tried to reestablish

antitrust regulation and enforcement and look at these anti-competitive practices that giant companies like Google have pursued. But she seems so enamored with this, like, I'm going to appeal to Republicans and I'm going to appeal to Wall Street strategy that I think there's a real risk that

that she does not follow through on the positive Biden direction that we've seen on these things. I would be remiss if I didn't point out, obviously, Trump's biggest backer is Elon Musk, who's one of the richest people on the planet and is himself now a tech oligarch, etc., etc. So I don't want to make it seem like, oh, the Republicans will be better on big tech.

evidence is the Biden-Harris administration has been better and more skeptical of corporate power, more skeptical of tech in general than the Trump administration was. But just from a policy perspective, I think it's a real shame that she appears to be reluctant to let down the Mark Cubans of the world, thinks that this is like the best political direction for her to go in trying to cater to these Wall Street executives and billionaires. And I don't know if it will matter

in terms of the election, but I saw some opining from Matt Iglesias and the like that there weren't really any political rewards for being more aggressive on antitrust enforcement. So the reason to do it is because it's good policy, not because it works out to be good politics. I sort of disagree with that, because if you look at the polling of Kamala Harris and even of Joe Biden to a certain extent, even though he's very unpopular, she consistently performs better on is gonna represent the interests of the middle class.

And, you know, consistently performs better on questions of who's going to represent the wealthy and who's going to represent the average American. And, you know, do I think that people are really immersed in the details of what Lena Khan's doing at the FTC, et cetera, et cetera? No. But some of this breaks through. Some of this gives a sense of, okay, they've been, you know, they've been fighting in these key regards, whether it's going after junk fees or trying to make it easier to file your taxes or going after some of these big concentrations of power. Some of

Even that does break through. And so to just dismiss those numbers of where she is performing better than Trump on who's gonna represent your interest over the interest of the wealthy, I think is also to be very selective in your analysis of the politics of this. I just don't know. I really don't know.

This whole deliverism theory and all of that, I mean, yeah, it's like, but how many voters out there who are even thinking about middle class think about the FTC? Now, I don't mean to say you're statistically wrong. They're going to feel it regardless of the policy or not. But are they paying attention? Evidence says probably not.

So I think she might be able to get away with it if she does win. Under the Trump administration, it's an open question, like I said, because of JD's previous comments on Lena Kahn and which direction that they will decide to go under their DOJ and their FTC.

It really honestly depends on which donor or whatever. So we'll see. It's one of those where the actual question of it is more important at a policy level than necessarily political. This is actually, I mean, again, it's like all, I was talking about this yesterday on the Johnny Mitchell show, by the way, The Connection.

We were talking about economic policy and all that. Unless you're very wealthy, you don't really have any specific economic things to point to. I've been thinking about this. What do you mean? Rich people know exactly what they want from the tax code. Salt. That's it. Salt.

If you're a small business owner- TCGA. Yeah, TCGA, QBI, you're like, you know exactly what you need to lower your tax by X, Y, and Z. Most people, if you're a W-2 income person and you make less than $400,000 a year, which is 90 something percent of the country-

Both of these candidates say they will not increase your marginal tax rate. So you have nothing specific that you can point to. Maybe if you work in the solar industry, you can be like, yeah, tax credit. Or if you work in oil and gas, you can be like, okay, I want some subsidy or whatever. Eventually that will filter down to me. But something I've realized in like this FTC and all of that is that it is a hyper elite conversation because most people don't make money

or make enough money or make money in the ways to be affected by this macro condition. A lot of it is just a totally elite conversation because, I mean, and correctly, people should not know about salt or any of these other things because, you know, it doesn't affect your everyday life unless you're, what, 300K, 400K, or whatever household. By the way, I understand that.

There is one Coral I want to make this all thing. Yeah. That some Californians pointed out to me. If you did buy your house in the 1980s, like a lot of boomers, and then it massively increased, the property tax bill has now become so high that the reduction of salt actually did negatively impact them. So that might be the one case where I am sympathetic on salt.

I'm like, I get it, I get it. Because now you're paying a shit ton of property tax in the state of California and that's no longer deductible from your overall federal tax burden. Again, the data does tell us that it's massively beneficial to people who make over $1 million. No, it's almost exclusively a tax benefit. Over 90% of the benefit. I mean, that's why you're like, I don't know how Trump will go. I do.

I mean, we've already seen this. No, but we don't. That's not fair because he's not back in office. He says, I'm going to have different people who are in power. We'll see how that works out. I don't know. But think about this. Think about this. Okay, what are the issues that he's flipped on? Okay, salt. By the way, don't erase what happened to the Wall Street Journal yesterday, which is that expats will no longer be double taxed. Oh.

Yeah, it's coming through for the Americans living abroad. Will someone think of rich Americans in Singapore? That's right. Can somebody please think of these people? That's really gonna seal the deal for him in terms of his electoral process. Hey, there's four million of them and they can vote, so why not? So you've got his salt flip-flop, you've got him shifting on crypto, you've got him going to the oil and gas industry like, I will do whatever you want. That's not real flip-flop, you've got him promising rich people, billionaires that, hey, back

me because I'm going to do the TCJA that we know for sure he's going to do. And we see who has been honestly most empowered in his campaign, and that's Elon Musk, who is one of the biggest union busters in the country. Elon Musk is right now going to the Supreme Court to try to argue that the National Labor Relations Board is literally unconstitutional. And that is Donald Trump's problem

probably biggest backer, certainly most influential backer. So no, I mean, I'm clear eyed about where Kamala Harris stands vis-a-vis these issues and the hints that her campaign is giving out. And also the notable silence that she won't say what she'll do on Lena Kahn. But I think we also have to be clear eyed about Donald Trump who's made it manifestly evident who he is catering to in his campaign and would cater to in office, which is the same group that he catered to in office. Whether he, yeah, I

I don't disagree with anything you said on the campaign. I'm saying with governance, what I do know is that with chaos comes potential opportunity. Will you get 100% of like all the things you just said? Probably not. But the one thing that I can point to is that with Trump and his whole like, I made a huge mistake last time not hiring enough loyalists, is that some of these loyalists have very different views on the economics than Gary Cohn or Jared Kushner than last time around.

Will those people have any empowerment in the administration? It's a totally open question. So yeah, I think it's one of those where in general, I think you're probably right in terms of the way that it will go. But we shouldn't also forget with the Republican Congress, Trump may be pro-salt, but that doesn't mean that Republicans are gonna bring some salt back.

Republicans love punishing blue states and none of their constituents are the ones who have to pay for it. So it's little things like that where there are major fights to happen under TCJA. The fact that you've had a surge in Republican support in New York. Yeah, that's true. But that'd be in the House, that wouldn't be in the Senate, right? But you brought up the House.

Oh, no, I was talking about the Senate. I'm saying in the Senate. I mean, that's where TCJA will be. But that's where, like, you know, that's why there's been the SALT caucus on the Democratic side is because New York and New Jersey, you've had genuine Republican surge. Again, Democrats are going to win New York overall, but you have a genuine Republican surge, especially in, like, Long Island and some of these areas. And so those are, like, the frontline Republicans, swing district Republicans now, which gives them disproportionate power. So, no, it would not surprise me to see them

be able to pull off this whole thing, especially because you would have some Democrats to go along with it. But what if we had D House, our Senate, our Congress? That would be interesting because it's like, well, then, you know, if it does have to pass, look, something is going to go through. That's another thing. Not enough people talk about this again, because most people don't

know enough about tax policy. The greatest, most titanic fight will take place in 2025, the Tax Cuts and Jobs Act, whenever it expires. There is no world where business will just let it fall flat. Impossible. There's way too much money

is on the line because otherwise everything just reverts back to it so how that all goes i'm you know we should just prepare our audience that will be the most important like economic time in frankly a decade since that passed because they'll probably re-extend it for another eight years and that will govern the tax regime of ai of crypto of you know steel unions of solar

solar, like everything for what the future looks like. Income tax, et cetera. It's going to be a crazy fight. I'm actually kind of excited for it. We can talk about policy. Attention, parents and grandparents. Are you searching for the perfect gift for your kids this holiday season? Give the gift of adventure that will last all year long. A Guardian bike, the easiest, safest, and quickest bikes for kids to learn on. Kids are learning to ride in just one day. No training wheels needed. What makes Guardian bikes special? They're the easiest to ride thanks to thought

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All right, so we continue to await Israel's retaliation against Iran. We know that Bibi Netanyahu spoke to Joe Biden. We don't know much about the details of that conversation at this point, or even if it matters, given that Joe Biden barely exists at this point. But we did get some indications from Defense Secretary of

Israel, Yoav Galant, we can put this up on the screen of what the attack will look like. This is what he's threatening. He says Israel's coming attack on Iran will be, quote, deadly precise and especially surprising. They will not know what happened and how it happened. They will see the results. So that's what we know thus far.

Ryan and Emily covered, but I just want to reiterate because it's so important that we've learned some of the most deeply disturbing things you possibly could about the US posture vis-a-vis both the attacks on Lebanon and the forthcoming attacks on Iran. First of all, we had reports that some of the people who are actually running Middle East policy like Brett McGurk,

effectively greenlit the Israeli invasion into Lebanon. You now have Bibi threatening, hey, we're going to turn, which they have been all along, but these are now that they have actually invaded, even more credible, hey, we're going to turn Lebanon into Gaza, calling on Lebanese people to rise up and throw off Hezbollah so as to avoid the genocidal fate that has met the Palestinians in Gaza. So you have the US apparently greenlighting that.

And you have a report that the Biden administration is not only cool with Israel now attacking Iran, but they are themselves considering in striking Iran directly, like the U.S. doing that, which is unconstitutional, not to mention not a thing that we should be doing.

So that's where things stand right now. We also have very troubling images coming out of Lebanon. I don't know if you all have followed this story, but there's a UN peacekeepers that originate from Ireland that were told to

told by the Israelis, like, you need to get out. And they were like, no, we're peacekeepers. We're not going anywhere. We're staying here. And we can put this up on the screen. The Israeli bombs, this is from the perspective of those Irish peacekeepers. And you can see just how close

they are bombing to this UN peacekeeping force and facility. We know there's already been massive civilian deaths in Lebanon. We know that a lot of civilian infrastructure has already been targeted in Lebanon. So those threats of turning at least southern Lebanon into Gaza seem like something that is very, very possible. Let's go ahead and put E3 up on the screen. This is

just the latest in the, oh, Biden's very frustrated, blah, blah, blah. U.S. frustrated by Israel's reluctance to share Iran retaliation plans. Biden administration hopes to avoid a repeat of surprise attacks like the killing of Hezbollah's leader. They say they've been repeatedly caught off guard by Israel's military actions in Gaza and Lebanon, seeking to head off further escalation. Some had hoped the U.S. would learn more about what Israel is contemplating during a planned meeting Wednesday between Yoav Galan and

Defense Secretary Lloyd Austin at the Pentagon, but Gallant postponed his trip. Netanyahu actually blocked him, blocked Gallant from leaving for the US on Tuesday night as Israel continued planning its Iran operation. An Israeli official said, US officials said they don't yet have either the timing of the strike or what Israel might target.

We are the client state here, guys. That's basically the bottom line is we feed Israel's ambitions for whatever death and destruction they want to wreak throughout the region. The most we can apparently do with the level of impotence of Joe Biden is meekly protest and leak to the Wall Street Journal that we are frustrated.

which honestly at this point, who really cares? Yeah, who cares at all? Inside Israel, there are also, you know, look, there's some signs, some troubling signs. Let's put this up there on the screen. Two people were killed in a town in northern Israel after it was hit by rocket fire from Hezbollah. Patients were admitted to the hospital after that missile struck outside of Haifa. So you can see that there was a failure of their aerial defense systems.

You also have this interesting sign of domestic consternation. Let's put this up there, please, on the screen. 130 Israeli soldiers declaring they will refuse to serve unless the government seeks a hostage deal. Quote, for some of us, the red line has been crossed already. Reservists and draftees across multiple military branches that they warn they will cease service if the hostage negotiations are not

So obviously, you know, that was something where they feel, I think correctly, has been totally abandoned. But I mean, this is not an act without punishment. This is literally like an act of mutiny. So, you know, they'll be significantly punished if they do go through with it. And then that could potentially raise major domestic turmoil.

inside the country as well. So not all is good, you know, inside the country. They're losing, like I said, hundreds of billions of shekels. They have a huge problem right now with the lack of the Palestinian workers that are there with the factory. They have to pay all these reservists and then those reservists are not at work. Imagine if you had a huge percentage of the young male population in the U.S. just plucked out of the U.S. economy overnight for an entire year. It would be crazy. That's what happened during World War II. They're at that,

At scale, they're looking at a similar level of deployment. So it's, you know, things are not good over there right now. The justification for the invasion of Lebanon and all the attacks on Hezbollah, etc., including the, you know, assassinating of Nasrallah, which they used over 82,000 pound bombs and, you know, murdered a lot of civilians in the process of, the justification for that was, oh, we got to get our people back into northern Israel because they've been displaced substantially.

since October 7th. That's part of why this rocket attack on northern Israel is really significant from Hezbollah because

they're not going to be safe to go back anytime soon. There are still not many people who remain in northern Israel. And the only real answer in order for your people to be safe and secure in general, and certainly safe and secure in northern Israel, is some sort of a diplomatic resolution ceasefire deal. Hezbollah is firing rockets because of the Israeli onslaught in Gaza. They have made that clear the entire time when there was a ceasefire. Hezbollah also, particularly

Participated in that ceasefire. There were no rockets fired. And so the idea that you're gonna secure safety and security for your own people through more bombs and more conflict and going to war with more countries. I mean, how many countries have even bombed at this point is foolish. It's foolish.

It is not gonna satisfy the desire for revenge among a large portion of the population. Don't get me wrong, these actions are very popular. The 130 brave IDF soldiers signing on to this refusal to serve if the ceasefire deal is not negotiated notwithstanding. These actions in general are very, very popular. But there is a deeply troubling future for those people who actually care about the

State of Israel because in addition to this domestic Mutiny in some small corners. You also have a lot of people who are just like I don't know if I'm gonna stay here Put this up on the screen. This is fascinating poll of Israeli citizens almost a quarter of Israelis have weighed leaving the country you have 36% of

opposition party supporters who have weighed leaving the country similar number of secular respondents and this matters a lot from like a just basic sustenance of the state perspective in terms of Israel because the war you know the very religious

Predominantly, many of the men don't work. They have large families. They have large birth rates. And they rely a lot, and also don't serve in the military, by the way, they rely a lot on government safety net. So if you don't have those more secular citizens to be able to work

pay taxes, be net positive into paying into that social safety net. The whole kind of program and the whole deal that they've got going on there really falters. Not to mention it just continues this drift further and further to the more and more extreme

right within society that you've already seen. And the other thing that was noteworthy about this, Sagar, is it's not just that they've like thought about leaving the country. Like, you know, every election, Donald Trump's maybe going to get reelected. You get a certain number of people are like, this is it. I'm leaving the U.S. And they never actually leave. But these are people who, by and large, majority of them have actually taken actions to like

Let me look into jobs overseas. Let me look into what the situation would be like for my kids and school. Let me evaluate like properties. Let me secure a passport, you know, a passport or citizenship in another country. So they've taken it seriously beyond just like, you know, going on Twitter and being like, I'm going to leave. Right. Yeah, no, I mean, look, a lot of Israelis are dual citizens. It's also a small country. A lot of them travel. A lot

A lot of them travel a lot. A lot of them have relatives all across the world, or they speak multiple languages. So it's actually a lot more feasible for them to be able to leave if they wanted to be. The barrier is lower. Yeah, the barrier is way, way lower, especially given a lot of ties to Europe and the way that

the citizenship laws work in those places, as long as you have relatives or whatever, if you're from there. So my point is that it's actually real. And what you just pointed out is the biggest problem is the secular Israelis are the one, they're the backbone of the Israeli economy and frankly of Israeli society. You know, the rest of them are basically just welfare, you know, recipients. They've decided that's an okay political bargain, but you know, in the long run, I've always thought it was very unstable and unsustainable. But after the war, I just

cannot imagine, you know, after World War II, like if you could consider like if this nation state survives, if you had all the veterans coming back, but then you also had half of the population that not only did not serve, but actively like was taking resources away from the war effort. I just can't imagine what that would look like. Part of the reason we were so united is because everybody had a role in the overall war effort. So I

Look, societally, I just have no idea how this... I always thought this wasn't going to work, especially with the birth rates and all that. It always seemed unsustainable. But now, I'm like, I have no idea how this can survive. And that's the real issue in Israeli society is not like, oh, how do we treat the Palestinians? Because it's a very small minority that cares about that whatsoever. It's this...

like secular religious divide. Yeah, but I mean, you can empathize, like imagine if 50% of the population or 25% of the population in the U.S. were, you know, conscientious objectors, even more different. Not even that, they were actively like taking huge resources from the state and ruling politics through their overall population. It's not analogous exactly, but if you think about like the divisions that were wrought, that still

exists in some ways over the Vietnam War and the fact that you had, you know, wealthier college kids like Donald Trump, by the way, who were able to get out of service. And meanwhile, and on college campuses, you also, that's where you have this anti-war movement.

And then you have people, you know, more working class people who don't have that option for their kids to like flee to Canada or get some family doctor friend to say they have bone spurs or, or, you know, get to ferment through college or whatever, who are being chewed up and spit out and meet the meat grinder that was Vietnam. And, you know, that just that division, uh, created massive cleavages in American society. Like I said, that in some ways still, uh, remain to this day, especially among older Americans. So in any case, um, there's, uh,

No doubt they're on the forefoot in terms of the amount of death and destruction they're able to wreak in many countries across the region. They are operating with absolute impunity. The U.S. is not serving as, it's not just not serving as a check, but as actively enabling and encouraging this direction. But there are also some deep societal fissures and warning signs for the Israelis for the further future. That's right.

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Let's go ahead and get to this was very interesting saga. You and Emily were flagging this. There's huge backlash to Fox News reporter Trey Yanks, who has been on the ground in Israel and also in Gaza to probably as much as any Western reporter has, who issued a pretty compelling statement in favor of protection of Palestinian journalists. Let's take a listen to what he had to say. There are so many neighborhoods that are flattened

Palestinians that are internally displaced will simply have no homes to return to. And while we get a firsthand look at the destruction here, it's important to remember that Palestinian journalists do not have this access. They have been pushed to the south. Dozens have been killed. There's this false narrative about Palestinian journalists. More than 100 of them have been killed by Israel since the war began. And I take very few positions in the conflicts that we covered.

Let this be a position that I take. Journalists, specifically Palestinian journalists, must be protected amid the war. The Israelis have killed journalists in drone strikes. They've killed them with small arms fire. And it's unacceptable. So, Sagar, this is one of those things that should be like the least controversial thing ever. Like don't kill, don't murder journalists, including Palestinian journalists.

But he's right that there's this false narrative that exists of like, oh, well, if they're a Palestinian and they got killed, they must have been a terrorist, ipso facto. So we don't really care about them, and they don't even really count. So kudos to him for saying it so clearly. There was no equivocal language here. There was no, they're being killed in black.

Last, he directly said, Israel is killing them in drone strikes, in these other methods, and they deserve protection, and we need to stop lying about who these people are and actually stand up for journalists in this conflict. I'm actually shocked Fox let him put it on the air. That's more what I was surprised about there. Yeah. Look, I know Trey. I started out with him. We covered the White House together. We were old friends. I remember the day they got that job, and he was so happy.

to become that foreign correspondent. It's something that he always wanted to do. And I think part of the reason that he's taken this position, not only from having watched it and covered Israel for years before that, he probably knew some of these folks just

from reporting he'd been inside of Gaza and in West Bank multiple times before the war, but he also was in Ukraine when his colleague, Ben Wallace, remember, was hit and actually lost both of his legs in that horrible strike. So he has been present.

for the death and the maiming of his own colleagues. And so I think he understands probably more than anybody else. It's also disgusting to me how many people attacked him, not only for the statement, but being like, oh, how many journalists or whatever of them are actually terrorists. I'm like, hey, why don't you strap on a bulletproof vest and a helmet and you go into Gaza like Trey actually has, and then you will see it with your own eyes. And then

And then you can make some comment, not from New York City and because you went on a birthright trip once that you're a freaking Israel expert on Palestine. And that's actually why it annoys me so much. Like the guy said, he's apolitical, he does his job. I think he does a pretty good job. And just such an anodyne statement, which again, he was just like, look, you can't do this.

to be so viciously attacked the way that he was, I just think it's so disgusting. Can you tell me more about the nature of the attacks? Because this didn't really exist in my social media timeline. Go look at his replies. I mean, look at the replies to the segment, right? So let's read it. I'll read you some.

Let's go ahead and see. Number one, what percent of the journalists have been actively participating in the conflict? The Palestinian journalist, highlighting one who was there on October 7th. What does a Palestinian journalist mean? Let's see. - So basically they're like they're all terrorists and they deserve to die is pretty much the gist of it. - Yeah.

Seriously, Trey, the Hamas journalists, I fully agree that the true journalists must be protected, but you know better than most what kind of journalists we are talking about. It feels like you only saw their press vests, not their weapons and involvement in October 7th. Meanwhile, the Palestinian journalists, pictures of them with guns to their head. What does Palestinian journalists, Hamas and a press vest are not, I could go on forever, okay? This is like every single reply to the thing.

Yeah, exactly. But I think that one of the important takeaways here is what you were pointing to, Sagar, which is like he's actually there. Yeah, yeah, exactly. It's like screw you. He's there. You're not. What do you know? And so all of the spin and the propaganda and the bullshit that this all gets wrapped in when you're sitting over here.

And watching from afar, he does not have the luxury of that distance. And there's a reason why Western journalists have had almost no access to the Gaza Strip. And it's because of exactly this. The more images that are on our TV screens, the more reporters you have that are strifed

of that luxury of distance and spin and propaganda and the dehumanization that comes with that, the more that you get honest reporting even in an outlet like Fox News like this, which is what they're deathly afraid of. So at the same time, we've talked a lot about what's happening in Lebanon. We've talked about this very likely attack against Iran. I don't wanna lose sight of the fact that they are actually ramping up attacks in the Gaza Strip that they are

appear to be executing on that quote unquote generals plan to once again displace everybody from northern Gaza. Remember, this was a very early phases of the war that this happened, that people were forced out of, ethnically cleansed out of Gaza City and pushed further and further south.

Now, they're basically going back to the beginning and once again saying like, if you don't leave Gaza City and its environs, we are going to assume that you are a terrorist and you are a legitimate target. But at the same time, even the people who are trying to flee are being shot at and killed by the IDF.

We have a report here that we can bring you from Jeremy Diamond from CNN. Let's take a look at a little bit of that. Civilians fleeing a war zone. Suddenly sprayed with bullets.

The Israeli military ordered these people to leave northern Gaza and move south. But the hail of bullets they faced, now a testament to why so many are choosing not to leave, or simply cannot. Nine-year-old Dana is among those wounded in the attack. Her pink shirt smeared red with her own blood after she was shot in the neck.

At the hospital, her mother says an Israeli drone opened fire as they were fleeing south. The quadcopter started shooting intensively, she says. Everyone was running. There were so many bullets. Even my children's backpacks were full of bullets.

The Israeli military declined to comment. But the attack came as it ordered nearly all of northern Gaza to evacuate, even as it says its renewed ground offensive is focused on just one city, Jabalia. But many are trapped, like 15-year-old Zamzam. For anyone who hears my voice, help us, try to get us out, she pleads.

She says her mother was killed by Israeli forces. I watched her take her last breaths and I couldn't do anything, she cries. So just think about this set of circumstances. So the IDF is saying if you're in almost all of northern Gaza, you must evacuate. But then if you actually go to move, you're being shot at and killed. So you're trapped in northern Gaza, even though you've been told to evacuate.

And the policy of the IDF after those forced evacuations is then you're, you know, legitimate fair game. You must be a terrorist if you stay. So you've effectively with your drones and your gunfire trapped people in northern Gaza and then turn them into legitimate targets. It's just a license for extermination is exactly what it is. Yeah, it's also noteworthy. Both Trey and Jeremy actually are in Israel. He's the Jerusalem correspondent. So, you know, again.

I'm just gonna take seriously what those guys actually think and say. I cover the White House with both of them. I think they're both pretty credible and have done a pretty good job on all of this. And I think it's quite noteworthy to look at theirs versus what Jake Tapper and Dana Bash might be saying here in Washington. Very good points.

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Let's get to the UFO update. Major new report from journalist Michael Schellenberger. Let's put this up there on the screen. Everybody stick with me. The details are important. So new government whistleblower reveals for the first time the quote, the name of an unacknowledged special access program for the unidentified anomalous phenomenon, otherwise known as UAP. So the name of that program is Immaculate Constellation. Why does this matter? The name of

of the report, named in the report by this alleged government whistleblower, is specifically the name of the program for quote unquote UFO retrieval that was launched after 2017. Now to be clear, the Pentagon is denying the existence of said program. The Pentagon said that they have no record of any program known as Immaculate Constellation. I will get to in a second why that matters and specifically why it is total bullshit.

The reason why, if you look at the overall existence of this, is it centers on Congress. So people will remember that I was at that UFO hearing, which was led by multiple members of Congress. You had the testimony of Dave Grush, who was the UFO whistleblower, about the existence of these programs that he had seen and had got and pushed through the inspector general. Well, since then, what has since happened is more ramping up, Crystal, within Congress of questions about

specifically around the Grush allegations, the DOD, and the Inspector General's report. Now, what they have found is basically blocking at every turn. And this is from the congressmen themselves. I believe that they are trying to get another hearing in the works. But the point is, is that this report and others like it from Grush, giving congressional investigators and members of Congress the ability to try and to search for very

specific types of things through FOIA, through records requests, and by having names and others, it's very important to be able to dig. The historical analogy I would use is the only reason

that we ever learned about many of the shenanigans that the CIA and the FBI were up to under the church committee was specifically because some, and I'm not advocating this, but it wouldn't be the worst thing if it happened, is some people broke into a FBI facility and they stole these documents. From them, we had the names from the CIA programs, like what happened with the Black Panthers, like the LSD experiments.

and all this stuff. And thus, the church committee and members of the press and others were able to use FOIA to actually go and to look for what all that was. If that had not happened, there is no church committee and there's no revelation about what happened. That's why the name of this program matters a lot. Yeah, so Ken Klippenstein has talked to me about this before because he does a lot of FOIA requests. And by the way, it's also obnoxious like

You have to have a lawyer. It's not something that an ordinary citizen or even an ordinary journalist without a legal backing behind them can engage in because they'll just completely stonewall you. But part of the key of a successful FOIA request is you have to be able to ask very specifically for what you want.

And so if you don't know the name of the program, you'll be fishing around and they can just say, no, don't have anything that meets that. And so that's why knowing the name of the program so that you can actually make an effective FOIA request that they are legally obligated to fulfill in some manner after some period of like fighting you in court and whatever. That's why this is important. Could take a decade. Yeah. So I want everybody to understand this is not all going to come out like immediately.

Now, Michael actually was on the Joe Rogan podcast just yesterday. He broke some of this down. Let's take a listen. In that report, they claim that there is a that the Pentagon is illegally withholding information from Congress about a secret UAP program. And that secret UAP program is considered a parent program of other of other programs. But it's called Immaculate Constellation.

I was told by a – I had it confirmed by a second source that this is the name. I also was told that if we revealed the name that we would probably fall – get under surveillance. If I wanted to spread misinformation or disinformation, if I was an intelligence agent, I think I would get someone to be a whistleblower.

I would sanction whistleblowers. I would tell them, go on podcasts, go on radio shows, go on television and discuss all these different disclosures. And you can't tell them everything. Top secret stuff. Some stuff you got to keep secret. Boy, I wish I could tell you, but there's more I can't tell you. There's a lot going on. And that's a really good way, I would think, if I was in control of a narrative that I wanted to be

continuously slippery. Like this is a very slippery conversation. Like you never get to the end of it. And what would be the motivation? Because there's some sort of a program that exists that they want to hide. And the best way to hide it is to continually bring up and then debunk these fake programs. I'm comfortable saying I'm like 90, 95% that the government is hiding information. Okay.

And the reason I'm so confident on that is because Donald Trump said so multiple times that they're hiding information. And I cite him in the article. They probably told him that. And also they lied to him about a bunch of stuff. Oh, sure. Didn't even tell him about Chinese drones because they were worried he was going to shoot them down. So they told him something that he says has not been made public.

public to the American people. So, so if that's, um, so my view is, look, if you think it's, it's either a secret weapons program, that it's a government disinformation program, that it's just mis-sightings, then I want the government, I want to, they have an obligation to tell us.

Yeah, so that it's a good pushback. But anyway, I'll get to a little bit. Now, remember when I said that they had no record of the Immaculate Constellation? That's what the DoD is claiming. Get this. So when Dave Grush came forward in 2023, and this Google trend should not exist, it just so happened that there was a massive spike of people searching Immaculate Constellation.

Immaculate Constellation, right next to Wright-Patterson Air Force Base in Dayton, Ohio. So again, this is a term which nobody knows. Nobody's out there searching Immaculate Constellation. What they were worried about was that the name of that program had been leaked under Grush, and they were searching those people around that area for the name Immaculate Constellation. Whoa, it so suddenly and shockingly appears there in Dayton.

in Ohio. So I think that's evidence there of something going on for why we're, why were so many people right around this airport base just searching for this miraculously, especially a base that's well known within that. I think what this does is it gives us a quiver into something to actually for Congress to begin looking into. And that's part of the problem. And I understand, I guess where Joe is coming from, but he needs to understand like what pressure

that Grush himself is already under. I mean, the guy's life is being investigated to high hell by the US government, basically lost his job. There is no incentive for a lot of these people to come out. Additionally- Sure, yeah, there's a lot of incentive to not come out and ruin your life. Yeah, they're destroying him.

I mean, remember they leaked that whole thing about his PTSD incident and all that? Like he has talked about having threats to his life. I don't know if it's true or not, but that's what he says. But in general, like his career has not gone well as a result of it. It's not like it has been good for his personal life.

life. Additionally, I think what it says is, somebody was explaining this to me, was that previously one of the reasons that that UFO legislation had gone down, the UAP Disclosure Act, was so pressured by the intelligence community was specifically to stop them from the ability to uncover the very special access program that exists like right here. And now for everybody out there, I get it. Everyone just keeps saying, oh, it's coming, it's coming, it's coming, et cetera. I totally understand.

But you have to remember what the, I mean, we just had Jefferson Morley on about JFK. It's been 60 years and we still don't know. You know, if you think about it, there were all these conspiracy theories in the 1950s of people who were saying the CIA has brothels where they're drugging people. People were like, you're

crazy. Like, what's wrong with you? 25 years later, you're like, oh, actually, not only was he totally right, it's way crazier than you could have ever imagined. If I had told somebody in the street in America, the CIA wanted to blow up Castro with the cigar, they would have said, you are out of your mind. Or make his beard fall out. Or make his beard fall out. Wasn't that what it was? Yeah, that's

That's true. These are real. This actually happened. If I go back to the Spanish American War or whatever, and I was like, wait, maybe it's America that blew up the USS Maine. Again, hanged for treason. Never would have happened. 100 years later, what do we know? It's true, or it's probably true. So it's like, I'm just saying, for the incredulity and just the way that people think about, like, oh, it's just taking a long time. You know, it's not that easy. When the government wants to keep a secret,

especially a very, very tightly held one here, they can do it and it can take a quite titanic efforts on behalf of the public to even inch forward to getting it. That's all I would say. - We'll see. - Yeah. - We'll see. - Yeah, I wanna see. It's gonna take a while.

By the way, Congress, after this whole election nonsense is up, let's get back and let's get to work. Hey, Trump, if he knows all this stuff, brother, you're already in trouble with the law. You may as well, you're already in trouble for classified documents. May as well just let the American people know. If he becomes president, he should just immediately sign off. Why didn't he last time? Well, last time around, he had Mike Pompeo in his ear famously, especially about the JFK thing. We're talking about this with

Jefferson, Morley, and they're like, oh, you just can't let the public know any of this stuff. And I think it's just, look, it is crazy. Obama, Trump, I mean, remember what Obama said? He was like, yeah, you know, he's like, there's some things that are out there, but we couldn't release it to the public. He said something along those lines. John Podesta, I always talk about this, who was the chief of staff to Bill Clinton in the White House, huge UFO guy.

He tried for years to get the CIA and others to tell him about these programs. And he was the White House chief of staff with Yankee white security clearance, and they blocked him out completely. So just evidence. Someone should ask Joe Biden about this. And maybe his half-cooked brain will not realize that he shouldn't be saying what he's saying. They wouldn't even tell Biden. Just accidentally.

let it down. Biden is the ideal president for them. They're like, oh, what a joke. It's like in the UK, they have a joke called Yes Minister, where the deep state basically over there just jokes that whoever's in this yokel who's in charge, the political guy, they're like, forget about it. We've seen 50 of them come and go. So for them, Biden is the ideal president in terms of who you can just hoodwink the entire time. All right. Thank you guys for indulging that. If there's any breaking news over the weekend, we'll see you. Otherwise, we'll see you all next week.

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