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Hey guys and welcome to the 4th of July episode of Just Trish and we're so happy you're here to

celebrate a day off and to celebrate um I don't know maybe 4th of July is a little controversial but whatever we're here today any excuse to dress up okay yeah that's what it was I was like I really wanted to do chaperone statue like when can I do that and not be weird and so I thought 4th of July but it

It's giving Wendy Williams, it's giving one in a million Miss Congeniality, it's giving Miss Piggy and we decided to go pink today because if you guys know the Statue of Liberty actually is copper and it turned green in the sun. So we're gonna just call this copper today, it's not pink. And we're here on 4th of July 'cause we're gonna actually skip it.

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It's a day off. You know, it's... I don't know. Let's not go too deep into it. We're not a too deep podcast. But I also forgot to shout out our Patreon last time. Well, I did shout out the Patreon. But patreon.com slash JessTrish. You have until the 10th to join and get this month's headshot. So we have our Pride shot. We're themed. This is my headshot for next month, by the way. Spoiler alert. It's always a theme. So for June, you'll be like, oh, when was that? June. Pride. You get...

The rainbow Birkin, the Swifty outfit, and the microphone is still featured. You get full-bodied Trish in that. There's the bob that cut my real hair. It's just like a really commemorative piece. You also get a Trish Moji rainbow. This is from Pride a couple years ago. And you just get the iconic rainbow wig. And it's rainbow. And it says, I love you with little heart hands. So celebrate your queerness all year round. But nothing says more than queer than Trish. So.

A T. Yeah, that's true. A T. Our producers here will get a notebook sent to them. You get a Just Trish Trishmoji notebook. Again, paper and binding. It's plain. You can sketch on it. You can write it in a journal. You can do a confessional. Whatever you want to do in there.

I don't know. Um, just write happy things. Don't write bad things though. You know, just the happy things. So you get that in the producer tier and you also get your name in the credits as our producer. You get a handwritten note, one of these cue cards, but it'll say like your name and I'm going to put something for our 100th episode and our one year anniversary, which is coming up. So that's what you get at patreon.com slash just Trish. We did a whole drama get in recap. You can go watch that. We reacted to Brooke Schofield's 10, 13 part series. Who the F did I marry? Um,

Really great stuff coming up this week. Muck banged until we were sick. We have crumble cookies. Sabrina Carpenter's espresso ice cream. We just really went in. We really did. We really committed. I was a little sick after our muck bang last time, but it was all worth it. It was all for the people. It was all for the people. I think it's just we just did a lot in the desserts. I think we would have been good. Yeah. But for me personally, the sweetness overload was my... A little too sweet. A little too sweet. But it was great. And...

we had the espresso. Well, did you see, this is kind of not really a hot topic, but kind of, did you see that Barry Keoghan tweeted please, please, please like five years ago? Yeah. And he also said that he loved espresso. Yes. And he like kind of manifested his relationship with Sabrina in a weird way via those tweets, I think. That's crazy. I guess they're meant to be. Sometimes,

is meant to be you know what I mean I think that's like a fate thing you're kind of like oh yeah that's kind of it is so uncanny like yeah it's like yes those are like common phrases but it's a little too specific it's very specific especially those are her two popular songs now with him and he was in the police like very much so but we loved her espresso ice cream it was really good I wonder if they still have it at Van Luyen what is it Van Luen Van Luen is how you say it I think bougie bougie bougie I hope everyone

I hope everyone's staying inside in their air conditioning today and watching this. Because I literally was just like, I want this to do well, obviously. But also, we have a sponsor, and we need it to do well. And I'm like, are people going to be watching on a Thursday? Our Thursday episodes tend to not do as well as our Monday episode or Tuesday episodes. So I'm like, OK, they're going to do well. Hopefully, you guys are inside. I'm going to be inside for 4th of July. I'm going to be inside, too. I don't do much on the 4th of July, really. Do you want to go to a crowded beach where there's no parking? Like, I used to live on the beach, and it would just be packed.

packed. I couldn't even get to my own house. You know, that's how crowded it was. Yeah. And it's just going to be so hot, you know, like just eat a hot dog at home. That's exactly what we're doing. We're literally getting a hot dog at home, a hamburger and saying 4th of July. That's it. Yeah. We did get a Budweiser with American flag on it. I feel like that's something 4th of July. Do you like beer? No. I don't drink alcohol. I don't either. But I feel like if I'm going to drink something, beer kind of tastes like soda to me. A little. A little.

Of all alcohol, more than like, oh my God, like vodka or tequila or something. Like gasoline. True. I guess for like gays, like a vodka soda is like what everyone drinks. So that's, anytime I would go out, that's what I would get. Because I didn't know what else to get. That's true. I used to get vodka cranberry because you kind of like don't taste the vodka. You just take the cranberry. But I still think vodka is so gross. I do think like overall drinking is gross. But I just thought, well, I'll have, that's a lot of calories. Yeah. Alcohol, beer. I'm also just like,

maybe it's like the neurodivergence, but I'm like so productive that like if I get hung over and I can't be productive in the morning, it like throws me off like a lot. What happens? You just like throw yourself around or something? I throw myself off the roof or something. I know. I had to go there too. When I say you can write notes, I'm like, don't write it on a live note. I was thinking so dark today. I don't know why. It is happiness. It is happiness.

yourself around the room like you just throw yourself around like what do I do not throw yourself on my roof damn it's just the same yeah yeah you throw yourself around I've never really yeah oh but I just like mentally feel like weird like I especially in the mornings I'm like really really productive so I feel like I have to be doing something last time I was hungover it was like

oh my god, I think it was maybe like 2018 and I went to this like gay bar but it was like, I didn't know it was Leather Night but it was Leather Night and it was like a bear bar. Ooh. Is it still there? Is it still on Santa Monica? It's in Burbank actually. God.

Do you know what it's called? The Bullet Bar? Yes. Yes. Like on the corner. Yes. I love that bar. That was the last time I went. I just got so hungover. And I didn't even drink much. I think I had one fireball. Like I shot a fireball and that was enough for me. You had a JoJo Siwa over there with the fireball.

Someone said she's sponsored by it because she used to drink like something else. Oh. And that was the first time she drank it, but then she didn't actually drink it. She just held it to her lips and she didn't like swallow. Someone did like a deep analysis of her performance. That's pretty fierce. Yeah. I want her to do like a documentary one day, like the behind the scenes of like the machine. So good. The more I think about it, like she just has to be smarter than any of us think. Like she just has to be. Yeah, I agree. I do think she's like super smart.

in a lot of ways. It's like me though too because like obviously she's like not smart when it comes to like talking about Colleen and that kind of stuff. Like obviously she didn't know like who didn't tell her that but that's what geniuses are, right? Like they're usually really smart in like some areas and then sometimes you're just like how do you even function? Which is like totally me not to say I'm dumb but there are some times where truly I'm just like...

do you even know like who to call like when we got this house like how do people know who to call for like your the the roof is leaking yeah someone comes and fix your roof there's roofers out there that literally do that for a living they just fix people's roofs yeah that's like bury me too anytime i have any kind of adult like problem like banking stuff like car stuff i just go to my dad i just assume that he knows everything so he knows like he has a guy for everything at least

at least do you do you use your dad is he one of those people that do like oh I can help you he yeah he like is just always around because he's retired and he just like knows everyone he's like a talker he's definitely a yapper for sure and he just like talks to every guy like maintenance people like car people so he just has a guy for like everything oh what what sign is he

He is Sagittarius. Wow. I love dads like that. My dad is like smart but would never, could never, like literally doesn't even, oh, how do you know how to feed your baby? How do you know when she's hungry? Like, I'm like, did you, like, did you, were you around? I guess he wasn't. He was for the first three years, but...

He literally is like so confused by everything. I'm like, but he's so smart. Like he sold companies. I'm just like, what? And I've never been able to ask for advice. You're definitely going to be that dad that she'll be like, I can just. That's why I pray he stays around for like 60 years because I even told him. I was like, I don't know how to help these girls. Like when they're adults, like I wouldn't know what to do, like how to get an apartment. Like I didn't even know you could buy a house until I was like 31 and you didn't need full money to buy it. So I'm just like that kind of stuff is crazy and hopefully you stick around for a long time. Well, I think they'll be the one helping you when they get older. I don't know.

I don't know. Oscar says he still goes to his dad for everything. And I feel like, what if we have an Oscar? You know, she'll be like, how do you do the taxes? I'm like, I don't know. Your dad knew and now we're all screwed. So...

I guess I could hire your dad. Well, yeah, well. He might not be here either. Mo's not here. I don't know. Not to get dark. I love that everything, maybe it's like the fourth is like coming through. Yeah. Everything you're finding at dark angles. I don't know. I'm not even going to say it. I'm like, don't even say it. We're founding a country here now. That's true. You know, there's a lot of labor and sweat and tears going into it. Is that what it is? It's not finding a country. It's the declaration, right?

independence yeah that's when we started the country but we didn't find the country no found like found we founded it they're like this is our country now yeah foundation I guess that's why it's controversial because it was here it was already founded yeah everybody trying to steal the spotlight Christopher Columbus and then who did the 4th of July who did the Declaration of Benjamin Franklin who else signed that thing Hamilton I think I think he signed it who else signed it

That's a good question. I think a lot of people did. I think so too. Yeah. I definitely learned about American lore at some point but none of that was retained. No. Like American history. Did you get to take that? Uh huh. Yeah. Like the Alamo. Don't remember it. Don't remember it. Don't care. Civil War I care more about. That's kind of iconic but like I mean maybe the

Maybe the Alamo is too. Don't come from me, actually. I don't know. I just don't remember. Yeah. I don't know. Honestly. I'm not a historical kind of girl. Unless it's like pop history, then it's like, okay. Like what do you know? Like Dramageddon. I know all the details. I think about like a pop history reference history, then you know. Because that's kind of how I am with like Hamilton. Like I kind of know things from that. I'm like, okay. So I don't even know who this is. John Adams is the second president because George Washington left. So then like John Adams, you fat motherfuckers.

Or that's what he says in the thing. Oh, that's weird. I don't even know him. Yeah, really? No, no John Adams. You don't know the presidents at all? George Washington, John Adams. And? You can name one more. Thomas, no. Benjamin Franklin, no. Jefferson. No, he wasn't. George Jefferson? Okay, George Jefferson? Is that what you said? Thomas? Thomas Jefferson, yeah. Because it's like the streets in L.A.,

Adams, Jefferson. Oh, my God. That's a good way to think about it. How iconic that is. Maybe. I don't know. They could be awful people, too. Because, like, why did they get to just declare? Anyways, we won't get political, but hopefully. You should have a street named after you one day. I would love that. What would it be? Just Paytas Boulevard? Oh, that's pretty good. I saw Nina West, who's on Drag Race All Stars this season. I randomly just. I think they showed it in the show. Like, she has Nina West.

avenue or something wait really in ohio where she's from that's so iconic so i'm like how do you just get a street named after you i want one yeah you could have one in like woodland hills or something yeah oscar i feel like there has to be oscar avenue or gracie avenue yeah but you have to be like west hollywood or disneyland if i was in west hollywood that'd be so iconic like santa monica and trish brady boulevard

I mean, it sounds good. I like it. I mean, I don't know. That's a little JoJo on me to be like, I invented gay pop. Like, you know, let me be in West Hollywood. But I like it. I like it. Yeah, I like where you're going with it. At least a side street, an alleyway, something. Nathalie way? No, an alleyway. Oh, an alleyway.

alley. Anyway, the one where the toilet paper lives on. We'll call it Trisha Paytas. That'd be everything, actually. Yeah, speaking of drag queens, I'm kind of in my Juno Birch era today. Oh, it is giving Juno Birch. Because I was like, can we just paint my arms? Because we weren't going to. And I'm like, I don't know if it's safe to paint your body, but Juno does it. So I was like, well, I guess I'm going to be a little pink version of that today. Yeah. Love her. She's fierce. I do love Juno, too. Yeah. Has a great YouTube channel as well. She's on...

On the motel show too, right? She was on Trixie's Motel. She's in one episode, yeah. I haven't watched that. I haven't watched it. You haven't? It's good. Is that Discovery? It's on Max now. Oh. It's just like all the – It's all one thing now. And there's another season that just started recently. I haven't watched it yet. But I don't know if it's a motel or like another property that Trixie's doing. I love that she's just like in her real estate area. Selling Sunset Canavera.

Trixie's... Actually, it was Christine Quinn on it. I think I saw, like, a clip. On this new season? I think so. Probably, yeah. I think Trixie is a... I saw clips of, like, the Housewives 2. Everyone wants a little piece of the Mattel empire. Yeah, she is kind of the it girl at the moment, too. It kind of switches up, it girls here and there. I mean, once in a girl, always in a girl, in my opinion, but...

Trixie's a play night girl for sure. Oh yeah for sure. But she's taking sabbaticals so she'll be not. Everyone's taking sabbaticals. Jeff's also taking a sabbatical. I know. I can't imagine like us taking a sabbatical. That one week was like also felt like a lot. I'm like you where even like Christmas break I'm like I love having two weeks off but I actually get like I start crying. I get like weirdly depressed and it's very weird and at the same time when I'm like working on it I'm like I want to

break or no can never be me only just because again I don't know like it's just I mean of course take care of your mental health but this is kind of taking care of my mental health to me it feels like a little I guess like a little social hour like I feel like I'm socializing it's healthy you know it's working so I feel like I'm just being really productive in this little like couple hours we have yeah because when I have too much free time and I don't do anything with it I feel like oh my god like what am I doing what's it all for you know what was I made for yeah

I have to. I always say, I tell my mom that, yeah. Then you get too much time with your thoughts. Yes. Yeah. Overthinking. Can't have that. Can't not have that. But it's just like, yeah, we're just here for such a short time. Like what, like 80, 90 years you're here and you're just kind of like, kind of what's the point like of it all?

right? Really, none of it matters at the end of the day. But I'm like, why do we age? Why? Why? Because I was feeling my daughter's skin is so soft and then, you know, and then my skin's a little more rougher and then, of course, my mom too. And it's just like, why are we decaying as we die? You know what I mean? Why can't you just stay beautiful and youthful forever?

Who came up with that scheme? It's so weird. And why? Like, what's the purpose? Why do we have to get sick and shut down? Oh, my gosh. Just shut us down. You're just going through your existential journey. You know, it's a very natural thing to go through. Yeah, it's just very hard. Because the whole thing, you really do think about, like,

It does have a reason. It definitely has a reason. We just don't know. Yeah. I don't know. I said the meaning of life is living life. And, you know, I'm just going to go with that. Yeah. That's a good way to look at it. Yeah. Yeah. That sounds like the right answer. Yeah. And I was thinking about it, too. I was like, dang, like, we do, like, a lot of content in one week. Because someone was saying, like, oh...

I saw like a comment like, oh, like, because your episode of Cancel came out and someone was like, did Tatum not see that they talked about Unjust Trish? And then I was like, we have like eight hours of content a week, which is like literally a whole season of Bridgerton. Every week we have like a whole season of Bridgerton. Bridgerton's not coming out for two more years and we're like, we can do that one day. Watch. So it's like, I really can't clock anyone. We just have a lot out there. We do. I was thinking

about that today because we're doing this our first time doing double hot topics and I'm thinking like so do you go home and like upload the extended podcast today for our patrons yes I have to finish editing it and then upload it after today that's so crazy and then tomorrow so like again thank god we got Jimmy and then tomorrow we can do this because it's like that is a lot it really is a full time and like again I repeat this often Oscar also has a full time job because people are like ah

Asgore should just work with you full time. He totally could. We would love him to, but he doesn't. But it's crazy. You kind of have almost two full time jobs. Yeah. That's why the productive thing, I think, because I'm so used to like balancing both. So if I'm like all of a sudden have like a lot of free time, like, oh, what's happening? Yeah. When I met you, you had like two jobs. So it was like a third job. You had like three jobs basically. I was like,

you need to chill over there. But we're getting close to basically having a daily show, you know. We really are. Because people, the amount of content we give, people have five days of content to watch at least. Yeah. Especially because like the three hour, the two and a half hour ones can be split up and then we have our, so yeah, we have what? Hot Topics Tuesday, Patreon extended Wednesday, Thursday another Hot Topics or a guest and then Saturday is the bonus but you can always divide the other ones up so. And that's literally eight hours of content. Yeah. That is actually crazy. Yeah. We like to work that way.

It literally doesn't feel like work. I think if it felt like work, I definitely want to do it. But I just like love it. And it's like because it's in our house and I love to dress up and then we have a cute little social... I watch so much TikTok anyways. So for me, it's like so much fun. It kind of gives me like...

This is like a bad analogy, but it's like, but in the fun days of like me and Shane, like I remember like going over to his house and like talking for like six hours about like the latest gossip on YouTube. And like he would watch all of it too, but like no one else does. So that's how I feel with you. Like you consume as much content as me. And that's why I was like, I kind of live for this. And now Moses is like consuming content. Like he just told us, you guys hear about Eugene and Cooney and we're like, what? Like, where are you seeing this? He'll like randomly like tell me stuff. And I was like, okay.

I love it. And it's just fun. I don't know. It's kind of fun. And now I can have an excuse. Like I go on TikTok. I got to research. Like yesterday afternoon, I was like, I need to make notes for tomorrow. So I go on TikTok for like an hour. I'm like, let me see.

You know what I think today is like feel a little dark, a little heavy is like, well, anyways, we'll get to that. But we'll get to it at the end. There is a topic I want to discuss that I've actually never been so upset in so long. Like I actually get so heated. Like I'm glad it took us like a couple of days to talk about it because I was like so angry. Like I actually wanted to make like a TikTok. And I'm anyways, we'll talk about it later. But I was like, I don't know.

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The looming threat. Maybe that's why because I really do the past few nights I've been watching it before I go to bed which I never do. We usually watch Bridgerton or something cute before bed and I've been watching this like just in bed like you know it's dark and you're just like like this looking at your phone and you're trying not to wake anyone up and so it just feels like already a little off and then you're like watching all this dark stuff and this weird stuff and you're just kind of like ew and then you think about it overnight and it like seeps in your head. Yes. So yeah you gotta watch something cute and fun which by the way we tried to watch The Young Sheldon once again. This is our second attempt. It was our

I was like, no, I really want you to watch Dear Evan Hansen. I want to have a discussion. And then I was like, absolutely not. I just can't do it. So you don't have to watch Dear Evan Hansen because honestly, like, it was,

Like, it's so weird because I really wanted to, like, give it a go and just, like, give a full analysis of why I don't or do like it. But the thing is there's nothing happening that I can't even say I don't or do like it because there's literally nothing going on. Like, the whole episode, I was like, what? I don't know why I like it so much. I really don't because going into it, I was like, oh, this is, like, so corny. I just saw, like, so many TikToks about – I got on Young Sheldon Talk. I don't know how. But I was like, this is so corny, like, Big Bang Theory, whatever, like, nerdy –

But then I kind of wanted to watch it for the meme of it all. Like, oh, let me see how corny this could be. And then I was like crying. I was laughing. I think it just reminds me of like childhood. I don't know because he's just like so quirky. Your childhood? Yeah, because he's like a quirky little boy and his mom is like so supportive. I'm like, oh, this is kind of me, Cody. He's annoying. But maybe I was annoying too as a kid. So maybe it is very me. I wondered that. Not to say you're annoying. It's because I didn't know he was a kid. But I'm like...

in this character. I think I do. I never would have put it together, but I'm like, well, he's like an intellectual. Yeah, he doesn't come off as annoying to me. He was just a smart kid. You know, he's too smart for his age. He's annoying. His face is annoying. Not his face, but like the way they make him. Like the only episode I saw was the church one where he's like up there and the guy's like explaining like, what is it? God and science. Yeah. And he's just like...

"Hmm, actually that's not right." And I'm like, I don't know. None of this perfectly works. - The kid is not annoying. The voiceover, the original actor. - With the old shelter. - Yeah. - He's the more annoying one. - No, the kid's not annoying, I should say that. Just the character, the way that, the plot line, the storyline of just him being like, "Well, actually," and it's not the kid's fault. It's literally the story. I'm like, "No, any kids are like that?" Maybe you were like that, so maybe there was somebody. I don't know. - You're cute. It was just slow. - So slow. - It was slow. The amount of things happening in the episode are so little.

Oh, nothing happens. And like every episode, like the episode before doesn't really matter. I don't know. That's what I was saying. That's why I was like, you can pause it. Well, because we were going to watch the first episode again. Yeah. I was like, well, let's start from the beginning because I wasn't paying attention the first time. And you're like, just start the third episode. I was like, okay. So then we started the third and I was like, it's just nothing. And it is sad. Like the dad was like in the hospital. Because I know, spoiler alert, he dies at the end of the last season. Trisha. Oh my God. Wait, what? I don't think

Everyone knows it. Are you still in the first season? I'm on season three. But isn't that how you saw it? No, I just saw it. No. I just saw cute little TikToks of the show. Wait, what? Oh my God, I'm so sorry. Wait, but that's the whole thing. But he's in the first season. He's in season three. No, the finale of the whole show. Oh. Oh my God, that's so funny. Oh no, did you really? It's so bad. And he hates

Oh my God, really? - Oh, I don't hate spoilers, but I just didn't know. - Spoiler alert. - Spoiler, why is that spoiler alert? - Cover your ears. - I didn't say spoiler alert. I just went really fast through it. I am so sorry, oh my God. I feel so bad. - Let's go cover your ears. - I thought you were on Young Hilton TikTok like,

like I'm not even on Young Sheldon's Big Talk and I just saw everyone be like oh my god why did they do this on the last episode like that's all I know I have no idea and I didn't watch Big Bang Theory that much so I don't know maybe that was explored that Sheldon's dad died at some point I don't know probably yeah oh my god George Cooper oh my god now oh my god it's gonna be so sad looking at him but is he sick the whole time because in the third episode he's already in the hospital for a heart attack so I was like well damn but it was just that one episode thing he was fine the rest seasons two and three well I don't know how he dies so it's

Oh, I don't, I really don't. I can't spoil it for you. Oopsie. See, I'm telling you, it was a weird vibe. Even when you came in, I was like, are you okay? Like, I felt like something was wrong. And you're like, I'm fine. I'm just tired. No,

But I felt like something was wrong. I was just like, I don't know. Everything has felt a little off this morning. Oh my God, that is so funny. Okay, yikes. You know what it is too is because it's not your routine to do a Hot Topics on a Wednesday and every time you're a little off your routine. That's so true. I know. It will take me a minute to get used to. That's true because I like it. I like having Hot Topics in the middle of the week. I think it's going to be good. But it does feel weird. It does feel like a little off. Yeah, you're right. It's a little off the routine. I think it was also

think it was also just like i was like a little stressed too i'm like oh my god we have enough to talk about like it's actually crazy there's like a daily but i think there's a lot there was actually a lot that did pop up kind of a lot and on tuesday the hawk to a girl again how much more can she do it's hard to that's it it's over that is a good point who did i see oh i think it was ej dixon dickinson the one that wrote my article for rolling stone she's like this hack to a girl will be over in like two days or something i was like okay

clock in. Yeah, but then she just got signed to a management company. CAA signs her. Probably. To do what? To go around the town doing... I don't know. And I saw she got interviewed by Brianna Chicken Fry. Yeah, that was wild. And then her line of hats sold out. Okay.

What hats is she selling? I love it. Cowboy hats? Yes. The hat business is very lucrative. I know someone who sells hats and apparently it's very lucrative. Yeah, I was researching because I still don't get the lore of the Hawk Tool Girl. This is how... I don't either. We kind of said on the extended, this is a whole different side of the internet because I just heard about her when it was like someone was... Some conservative was tweeting like,

you know, gay people must be so upset that the Hawk Tool Girl is the star of Pride Month or something. And all the gays on gay Twitter are like, who? Like, we're listening to Chapel Rome. We don't know what is going on. Same thing with the girlies. Like, definitely don't know. I heard someone say, like,

And they're just like, oh, only guys and pick-me-girls know who Hak-Tu-A-Girl is. Oh, because I literally have no clue. Me neither. No idea. She made the noise in a video. I was trying to get the lore, and I still don't get the lore. She just said, like, how do you do something? It's like, you do a Hak-Tu or something, right? Yeah. And then... And guys were like, oh, my God! Like, they go so crazy. But I was like, what the hell? Like...

Straight guys are wild. But that's also, like, when Jeff was here for his episode, and he's talking about, like, Andrew Schultz and all these people who are, like, talking crap about him. I'm like, who are these? I know. I literally have no idea. Andrew Schultz I, like, only have seen on TikTok. Like, I don't know his lore. I don't know, like, he said from Joe Rogan, apparently, I guess I said. But, like, is he a stand-up? Is he the only podcast, like? It is wild what is going on on the other side of the internet. Don't want to be there. I just love being ignorant about it. Me too.

I don't need to know about Angie Schultz or whoever else. No, because also, like, the stuff they talk about is just so, like, pointless. Like, this Hak Tua girl. Like, not her, but just, like, why are you making such a big thing? Like, are you... What is the whole thing? Like, they're just that pervy? They're like, oh, my God, she's in Hak Tua. And she's, like, cute, I think. Like, I saw a picture of her. I mean, I love her, but I'm just, like... Love support. Yeah, love and support if she's into it. I guess she is. She's doing interviews, but it's just, like, these men that make it, like, such a thing. I'm like... It is weird. Are you okay? Do you get laid? Like, are you good? Like, why is...

Yeah, people are weird. But – and then, like, it wasn't her video that went viral, so she didn't make, like, any money from it. Ugh, that's even worse. So I read this article, like, with her. She did, like, a hat line with a small business from her town. And they sold out, like, right away. And then the math – someone calculated the math of how much she made.

or they made so all the hats sold out so it would have been a total of six sixty five thousand five hundred sixty dollars wow obviously that's split between like the company and her but at least that's something and she signed to a

agency or whatever. Yeah. So it sounds like she wants to like make it into something. Yeah, she said that she didn't want to like be known just for a catchphrase but then she's making merch. But like what else are you going to do? You kind of have to. No, yeah. You ride that wave as long as you can. You never know. She might be the next Brittany Broski. That's true. You start as a meme. If she's smart, if she knows what she's doing, you never know. That is crazy. I do remember when I had The Dish with Trish which was like a podcast like no one listened to back in 2019.

It literally, I remember Brittany Broski being pitched. Like, they would, like, pitch her, and they're like, she has a meme, a kombucha meme. And I think that was, obviously, I didn't, like, reject her, like, to her face. I was just like, oh, I don't, like, know anything about this. Like, what am I going to talk to a meme person for for an hour and a half, and then look at Brittany Broski now rejecting us full circle. So it is...

I get it. Like, I get it. You just never know. You never know. And she could be super popular and funny and... Yeah. She could take this and become the next It Girl. Who knows? Maybe she'll be on Canceled. That'd be crazy. Oh, my God. Yeah. The Canceled Girls have her? Totally. I see it for sure. They were also in a guest drought when we were on the episode and we were talking about how, like, we're in a guest drought. So...

I'm not to say she's not worthy of coming on. She could come on. But for me, it's just like, I'm like, okay, I got to really think like who I'm like really interested in. You know what I mean? Yeah. Because these days, I've got two kids. I'm tired. I can't do full research. I'm like, I got to really just be like interested. But we have some good guests coming up. Yeah. We kind of do. And it's like some exciting ones too. Yeah. I feel like because it's like we're like, you know, a small –

family shop over here. We are a family shop. You were a small business. So it's like... I don't know. It doesn't really hit sometimes. But then the people that...

like are even possibilities I'm like dang like it is crazy that's kind of wild no it's so wild and bizarre we always will text each other and be like oh my god this person followed this person followed and it's like so cool to this day I'm just like oh my god like I think um Chopper Run's makeup artist who did the last makeup look like DM me I was like this looks so good I was like oh my god like I love you I'm so excited like it's like it is really weird it's really cool that people watch it

Yeah, it is such a gag. But that's why, too, like, we used to be, like, with the 10 of it all. Like, we were hyping it up so far today. But now I just want it to be, like, a surprise whenever something happens. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Because also, I'm one of those people, too, because we do have, like, some really exciting guests, I think. But it's also, like, until it happens, I just don't want to, like, you know what I mean? Yes. I'm not even, like, thinking about it in my personal life. Like, it is so hard because I get so excited. But I'm like, let me just, like, chill. Same. It's still a couple weeks. Like, let me just chill. I'm just, like, planning but also, like, not getting too. Yeah. Yes. Yes. I think that's the best way to be.

And as it happens, it happens. Yeah. Yeah, it's cool. Really exciting stuff coming up. We will get Young Sheldon on. How old is he? Is he of age yet? He must be older now. He was in Big Little Lies. He was like Nicole Kidman's son, I think. Recently? Whenever that show was on. I don't even remember that show. I didn't know what show. I haven't seen it either, but it was a big deal when it was on. I don't know. And he was an adult in it? No, he was a little kid. Oh.

Why is that? You're like, oh, he's an adult. Okay. I don't know. I think that was before Young Sheldon. Oh, I thought you were saying like, well, he must be an adult because I just saw him in this and I was like, okay. He has to be like 18 probably. I feel like that show's been on forever. Armitage age. He's only 15 now. Wow. That is crazy. He looks older. I saw him in like an interview. He looks older. Did he get discovered by Perez Hilton?

I think that you were telling me that, I think. I mean, that could be something I just totally made up, but I felt like Pres Hilton would send him to Broadway shows. He was like a theater reviewer, I think, when he was like five or something. Oh, you're right. He was a little Tony's correspondent in 2017. Man, good for him. How old was he? He must have been, oh, 2017. Okay, math. Okay. Three, seven. So if he's 15 now, he's eight. Yeah, he was born in 2008.

So it's like his real character in real life is a little closer, kind of close to the character in the movie, in the show. I don't think young Sheldon's a theater reviewer. No, but I can see him, you know, if he's like there doing interviews and, you know. Yeah, he's just more like adult, like, yeah, very mature. And intellectual if he does. Yeah, yeah, he always came across that way. That's why I was like, wait, I think that's the same person. Okay, good for him. So Preston discovered him. Wow, good job. Yeah, he's a good actor though because he like copies the adult Sheldon. Like, I feel like he's like still...

studied that man so hard and it's like okay like let me be the little kid version of him yeah but as he gets older like on season three he had a growth spurt so he's already looking older I feel like it's so his like personality is cute for like a little kid yeah it's like oh that's a cute little kid you know but then as he gets older it's like my boyfriend who was like really into it the first season is like now he gets really annoyed with young Sheldon it's like it's like

Like the old, the Jim Parsons on Big Bang Theory. It's like annoying. It's annoying. Like stop. You know what I mean? As a character. What's his name? Sheldon. Yeah. I don't. I never liked Big Bang Theory for that reason. I tried to be into it. I was like a little bit of a pick me because again, I dated someone that loved Big Bang Theory. So I was like, love it too. But like watching it now, I'm like, they're all pick me's on that show. Really? The girl across the way. I love her. Kelly Cuoco. But the character she plays is a little bit of a pick me. For sure. I like Kelly Cuoco too. My friend. I love her.

Not my friend. A girl I went to high school with is her stunt double. And her Instagram stories are like they're always doing little dances on set together. I love that. And they just seem like BFFs. And I'm like, Kaylee seems like a cool girl.

I love her. And she must be like set for life after Big Bang Theory, but she's still working. I'm like, kudos, mama. Kudos, mama. Because she was in a commercial where she's like pregnant too. I was like, wow, she's really hustling. She's just doing everything. I loved her. She was on like, she played Marsha Brady when she was like 14. I loved her on 8 Simple Rules with John Ritter. Yes. I thought she was so pretty on that show. I was like, I want to be her. Yeah, she's kind of been all over the place. I like her so much. Me too. She had a baby. She's cute. She dated Johnny Glucky in real life, right? Yes. Which is like so crazy. But Johnny Glucky,

like he's sneaky hot. They try to make him look like a nerd on that show. Like, oh my God, you're such a nerd. But like, he's actually hot. Like everyone thinks he's hot. I feel like that happens a lot too. What? Where they try to like make them look nerdy and you're like, they're actually good looking. Yeah. Then you see them out of like their roles and they like look hot. There's a guy on

Hacks. Who is like hot. But like in this show they just dress him to be nerdy. And like his character is nerdy. So like you're nerdy now. And then like on Twitter like it'll be like. You know that trend which where it's like. Would anyone be mad at me if. And it's like they just post someone who's like controversially hot. Oh.

like oh right right like he's just hot yeah he's just hot yeah and that was him yeah and he's like ripped and like shirtless whatever i'm like he's just a hot guy you know it's like it's not he's wearing spider-man glasses that's the traditional like making a pretty girl like ugly too it's just like put her in glasses even like his own now too i feel like maybe because i talked about him so much that he just kept coming up on my twitter now i'm like

It's almost too much now because he was just hot and everything. And he was listening to Charli XCX. And I'm like, I think he knows that he wants to get the gays excited. Oh, he's a little bit of a pick me. He's a gay pick me. Or straight for gay. Yeah. Straight for gay. That's good. Like straight for pay or gay for pay. Okay.

interesting yeah i think that happens just in general like right people get like a little oversaturated again that's why i'm kind of glad i never like popped off because i feel like no matter what like as big as you get like people either get sick of you want to bring you down you're oversaturated like something you know what i mean and then it becomes like i'm kind of over this person yeah that's why like self-deprecating is kind of the way to go like just never buy into your own height because then you never have to worry about you know a fall or something absolutely you're like i

I'm already there. Be like, oh, she fell off. She got cast. That's been my brand, you know, falling off. There's like nothing else to it. So, yeah, it's kind of interesting. You look like Johnny Gluckly a little bit in that show.

Is it the glasses? And the hair. And your eyes. And your face. Yeah. And the face. The smile, too. I mean, if you're on TV, especially back then, like, you had to be attractive. That's true. Yeah. Now there's more space for quirkies on TV. Yeah. Big Bang Theory, I feel like, had the quirky. But what's his name? Is his name Raj on Big Bang Theory? Yes. Like, he's hot. And then the other one, too. I forget his name, too. The little one. He's kind of hot, too. They're all kind of sneaky hot. Except... And Sheldon's hot, too. Let me just not... It's a weird vibe today. Sorry. Sorry.

maybe there's like a fun what was that wait did you have well that was a topic we were going on or no yeah big bang theory is a hot topic it just came out people are still wondering I wanted to be on that show so bad what yeah oh I like I said I was dating this guy I was like really into it he would like go sit in the audience because it was like filmed where they film Ellen is it Warner Brothers oh yeah

So he would, like, always go watch it film. And he's like, oh, you should come with me and watch it. And I was like, I've never seen the show. He goes, okay, you have to watch the show before you come with me. And then I'd watch, like, all the seasons. And then, like, I never got to go to the show. And I was like, okay, that sucks. But he didn't even know anyone. He would just, like, literally get free tickets or something. My hot topic, my hottest topic was Olivia Rodrigo announced her Stanley Cup. And it, like, really sent me spiraling because I want this Stanley Cup so bad. But...

I saw a clip of Tana on Octopus, on Therapist. And she was making fun of Stanley Cups. And then, so I was like, okay, I'm over the Stanley. But then Olivia announced her Stanley Cup. And I'm like, shoot. I became like really confounded. Yeah. What is her Stanley Cup? Just purple? It's purple. And then it has a little star. Like, it like looks like stickers, but I think it's printed on. And then it says like OR on it. What's it mean? Olivia Rodrigo. Oh. Or. Or.

Okay. Cute. Oh, you have to get it. You love it. I have to get it. Yeah. How much is it? 50 bucks. Oh, it's a regular cut. But it's like a whole thing to get it like...

because you know the stanley girls were a little wild with like camping outside and stuff i was pro the stanley move like i was supportive like you guys do your thing you're like we love that they stand out on target i was like they're losers and you're like no got it i supported them on their journey of you know capitalism whatever i'm like work but tana would say like uh making fun of them she's like these girls are carrying around like a giant blender with

them oh yeah yeah i was like shoot like clock might be but that's coming from a skinny girl because from us big girls we like to look small with them we like to have a big what to say cooler i love having a big cooler because i look so tiny like oh excuse me my big purse and my big cup i'm just so skinny you can't even see me that's what i like but they're silly i love when people have like all the random accessories for their families i mean it's wild but supposed to

have that. Did we send them for free? We have the little accessories on them. Yeah. We send like little things. Yeah. If you got a cup you might have gotten like a fuzzy heart and a disco ball. That's fine. Yeah. We weren't advertising them because like even when I got them like they broke sometimes so we just like gave it for free in the thing but they were supposed to go on like the little cup too. Yeah. I love it too when there's like little danglies on it. Does she have a dangly or you have to buy them separate?

I don't know if she has a dangly, actually. You have to, like, sign up for an email list to find out more or something. I don't know. So they come out July 9th. So I'm going to be really on it. But it's like, I don't know. I'm a little nervous because the Stanley community is just like, you know. Wait, what do you mean? You're nervous about not getting one? Yes, because it'll be like. You probably have to pay $500 for a. Yeah. Oh, at Poshmark. It's my mom reselling them on Poshmark. It's like, I got a Posh hookup. Don't worry. Yeah.

I wonder if there's a limit. Like Skims gives you only like two per. I hope so. They said they have like a special website for like to avoid bots or something. So I don't know. But it really like triggered me. I was like Stanley and Olivia. Like that's like, you know. Is she your number one?

My roster. I was thinking about this driving over here, actually. Okay, let's hear the roster. But my roster is. Taylor's still, like, number one. It's like a legacy thing. Like, it's just we've been through too much. Yeah, of course. So she'll always be number one. Two, I think Olivia's probably number two. Wow. Chapel's probably three. Wow.

And then Sabrina is probably four. What would Olivia say if Sabrina was in your top five? Oh, you think they made up in your head? You think they're perfect? Yeah. In my head, I think everyone is like cool with each other, especially like Olivia and Sabrina's beef was mostly about Joshua Bassett being just kind of like F boy vibes, like going back and forth. Cause then Sabrina had a song on her last album that was about, um,

Joshua Bassett too. Like you just go to whoever's winning is like one of the lines in it. Who's Joshua? What's he from? High School Musical, the musical, the series. Is that everyone want to be? Yeah.

Was he the Zac Efron character? He was the Zac Efron character. I already don't like him. No idea. Olivia was the Vanessa Hudgens. Oh, really? Wait. So is it like it? Okay. Okay. They're in the same high school that they went to in High School Musical. And then their high school is putting on a musical of High School Musical. So it's like meta. That's kind of.

Kind of cute. I like it. So Olivia plays Gabriella. She got the role of Gabriella. And then Joshua got the role of Troy. And then are they like the same kind of thing where like he's a jock and she's a nerd? Kind of. Olivia was kind of in a love triangle with like another jock. And then, yeah. Wow.

I love love triangles. I wish I was in a love triangle. Like in a TV show, like when I was watching Bridget Chan, I was like, God, she's so lucky. Because I think I was telling you this. Like I always just wanted to be like on TV for that reason to like feel desired by like two hot men at one time. You know, she got like Lord Devlin and Colin and they're both like – and he's jealous and he's seething. I've never had anyone jealous or seething over anything. Like how fun would that be? And I always get jealous of girls in love triangles in movies because I was like – it's like Twilight too. It's like, wow, you have two hot people that want you? Like what? Love triangles were –

Maybe they still are the thing, actually. Gypsy Rose is in a love triangle, too, which is another topic. I don't think she likes us, by the way. Did you see the clip of Ryan being like, I love Trish? He said, we love Trish. Gypsy's like not saying anything. She's smiling. He goes, I mean, I love Trish. And I was like, woo, woo. Woo.

Was that a new clip? Yeah. I think she just didn't know. No, she definitely does because this is like the second or third time someone brought Trish up and this is the second or third time Ryan was like, I love Trish and she's like, or he said, we love Trish and then she's like, and then he's like, I love Trish. But I just think she didn't have a chance to even form an opinion, you know, because I don't know. No, I can already tell, especially after the

My man want to touch you with a 10-foot pole. Like, that's how – I was like, I can tell – not in a bad way, but I feel like she might, you know, be a little self-conscious of other – even though I'm, like, married with a baby and, like, I don't crush after Ryan. But you know what I mean? Like, if you're insecure already – like, maybe she had this bad relationship or something. I don't know. Whatever. If you're already insecure, maybe you just don't want another, like, woman around. You know what I mean? Maybe. That's not –

- That's not, that's the vibe I got. - I don't know. - It's not a row. We're not gonna hang out with her. - No, I know, but like I could just tell, they were like on a live, like divided and I could just tell 'cause he's like, "Yeah, we love Trisha." - He was definitely not sensitive of saying like he loves another woman. Like you just don't say that. - 'Cause she was like, "Hmm." - So saying that was not, it just lacked. - That's what I'm saying, it could have nothing to do, she didn't even know who I am. - Exactly, yeah.

And he's like, okay, well, I love Trisha. Yeah, the way he said it. And then to continue on about it. Yeah, he's like, I loved her in this. And I was like, oh, my God. I really like her content or something else. And I had to DM him. But I did DM him being like, I need to get a hold of Gypsy. And then that's what I told you. She DM'd me like a minute later. So I was like, ooh, she's on it somewhere. Like, she's on his DMs, notifications. But Gypsy, I love you. I am happily married. No love triangles on the sand. No love triangle. I know.

No love triangle. But she is a desired woman. I mean she is crazy. I'm not trying to be insensitive here. But it is wild – not crazy. It's wild that like that guy that's like in prison for unaliving her mom like did that because he was in love, right? Like isn't that why he did it or he wanted to protect Gypsy? I think so. But wasn't he also like a little unwell too or something? I don't know. I haven't gone that deep into that.

case in general but when you said unwell I think of the unwell network and it's like interesting I'm like why don't they have people who are unwell I guess they have Harry Jowsey but I was like in general why don't they have he's unwell because I did see a bunch of people on TikTok being like I don't like that Harry Jowsey's on this Alex Cooper oh I think it was Francesca did you see that comment oh no she said Alex Cooper is not a girl's girl because she has Harry on the unwell network which is like a girl's girl network you know like a podcast people are really pissed that Harry does on there and I agree but

There's no one I despise more than Harry Jowsey except for Zach Justice, but we'll get there in a second. But I was just like, that's actually kind of wild. I didn't think about that. When you think of Call Her Daddy or Alex Earl, their brand is so woman-friendly. So it's kind of weird to have Harry Jowsey on. Yeah, because – I mean, what is his demo? I don't know. Is it girls? I have no idea. Probably nobody anymore. There's probably no demographic. There is someone who keeps reaching out to me, like a company I know, and they keep wanting me to do a pod swap with this person who has a lot of followers. But it's just like not –

This is not the vibe. I'm like, I don't want to bring this person on. He's a little controversial and just like is not for the girls and the gays. He always has like controversial people on his podcast. And I'm like, that's not my vibe. But they're like really pushing it. They're like, he's really popular. He's popping off. And I was just like – and I just said no. I was just like, I don't know. Like I don't want someone that's like offensive to like gay people on my show. You know what I mean? Like that's so weird. That's like – I guess that's the same comparison. It's like, wow, you have a whole women – like the Call Her Daddy is all about women empowerment, all this stuff like that. But then you have Harry Jassy who all he does is like use, abuse, gaslight, manipulate women on TV. Cute.

It's kind of weird. So I kind of – that's the only equivalent I could see because it literally happened this morning, the pod swap thing with that person. That's, to me, in my opinion, a little bit not gay friendly. And I was like, that would be very odd. And I didn't go on Piers Morgan because, I mean, he's super, like, transphobic and homophobic in my opinion. So I was just like –

It's kind of odd that you would do that. But anyways, go off. But we were talking about Gypsy Rose. Were you going – were we doing a Hot Topics segment? Oh, just her love triangle. Yeah. Is it just – any update? Just – Oh, well, have you seen like – Just Ken texting? No, like Ken – Oh, no. Ken and Gypsy were on like the same – like that split TikTok live. Yeah. And then she got a text from Ryan. Yes. Yes. And –

saying that like he misses her or whatever. But then Ryan went on his own TikTok live and was saying like, yeah, Ken, like I have the receipts. Like Gypsy is telling me that she misses me. Okay. I think I'm mixing them up. So Ken is the big one. Ken is the current one. Ryan is the bigger one, the ex-husband. I think I mixed it up when I just talked about it. So everything I said just say Ryan. With the names. Ken's bigger. No, Ken is the current. Ken is the current one.

Yes. This is why we can't have basic names. This is why people need to name their kids like Pilot Inspector because it's like there's too many Kens and Ryans and they all look the same. Okay. So Ryan is a little shady though. Like everyone was team Ryan because they kind of felt bad because she did – did you see the kissing the frog? She gave to kiss a frog to see a prince and she did the side by side. I'm like, girl, okay, we don't have to do all of that, you know. But at the same time, like seeing his behavior with her – I haven't watched the show. I just see clips. But he does seem a little bit –

She gives a little bit of her mom vibes. You know what I mean? Just very, like, overbearing. Very just, like, who are you texting? Why can't I come? And she goes, I just want to see my sister for a girl's trip. And he's like, but don't you want me there? Like, it's kind of a little too much. Yeah, clingy or something. Yeah, but in, like, a weird way. And then the stuff where he's just like, oh, my girlfriend... She's like, why do you need alcohol? He's like, in case my ex-girlfriend comes by. I'm like, he just does stuff to, like, push her buttons when she, like, just got out of prison. She's obviously also, like, had a traumatic thing with her mom. She's like, you know, it's just...

I don't know. I don't really feel bad for him either. And then when I saw the one you were talking about where he was like texting her and then he's just like, I have them receive. She would be hitting me up all the time and then blocking me. I'm like, how old are you? Like obviously like you're an adult. Like why are we doing this? Yeah, I think they all – we all just need to move on, you know. Like you got to just know when to throw in the towel and just keep moving, you know. I think it's going to be hard for all of them because – well, like Gypsy is her own person. She's her own entity. She can keep going forever. But I feel with –

The bigger one? Yes. Okay. Sorry. I'm just trying to differentiate. Like I feel like for him this is kind of his maybe 15 minutes of fame that he maybe doesn't want to like give up quite yet. Yeah. Yeah.

to parlay it even like john and kate like kate godson did a good job parlaying her fame for like an extended 15 minutes but no one really knows where she is now i guess she's doing that show with um the joe the one that jojo did too what was it yeah special ops or something yeah apparently she went to nicu or something like that nicu icu i don't know oh like working in it no like she ended up in there from the show i don't know yeah anyways yeah

Maybe he's trying to be like a Kate Gosselin of it all. But is he like a substitute teacher or a teacher or something? Is he? I have no idea. Because I remember watching him sing a clip again and she's like, oh, you have to work tomorrow. And he's like, you know, I just got a call from the principal and she's like concerned about the D is fire comment or something. Oh. So I think he works with like kids. He's like, that's, you know, this job is important to me. I need this job. Like... That... Yeah. How do you still like keep your normal job and then be doing all that? I would guess it's not probably. Yeah. He did on the show, but yeah, maybe not. At this point. And then in that case...

Yeah, then I guess, yeah, I guess you could try and sue. I don't know if you could sue someone because then you lose your livelihood, but you agree to appear on the show. Yeah. He had to have known. But, you know, I have a firm belief everybody wants to be famous. Do you think that?

Not everyone, I don't think. Like a little bit. There's always like a little bit. Maybe they don't go hard for it, but I feel like there's always a period in somebody's life that they want to be famous. I think once... I don't know if everyone like wants it innately, but I think when like a lot of people have like... Have it or get like this tiny like slice of it, they get addicted to it. And then I think they want it more. More of it? Yeah. Because I've had like my brother, there was a moment where he was like auditioning for like music videos. Like he...

I don't even think he wanted to be famous. Like it just was something he wanted to try. And then he was like, I don't like it. But I feel like there's a lot of people who are just like super private. Like think about the conjoined twins, like how they like turned down all the reality TV deals or whatever and just like want to live their lives as teachers and like be private. But do you think maybe because they got a taste and they didn't like it? Maybe. Because they were on a reality show, right? Yeah. Because I know people that are true introverts. Like they just have no desire of any attention of any kind. Okay.

I mean maybe that's why too. I don't know. I just always think like anyone I know even if they are like an accountant or something now or like I knew someone that worked at the literally the Bank of America right like down the street. I knew him when I was like 18 and I remember he was like kind of like that just private just like to enjoy his life but then he like wanted to go on a reality show just randomly and then he went on it and then he like tried to sue the reality show. I don't think it even aired because he was like embarrassed or something like that. I don't know. It's like weird. Why did you do that? And then he like completely disappeared. I think he's back in

the Vancouver Copa. You probably come across more of those people. Maybe, that's true, yeah. Because they'll, you know, they see you, they'll confess to you like, I always wanted to or I want to or maybe you can help me or whatever. That's true. You probably meet more of those. That's crazy. If you've never desired to be famous, let us know in the comments below like, why? Because I can't comprehend it. But I don't know. You know,

What's his name? Ken. The one from Mazinger. He was the one that was a doc. Was he a doctor? Yeah, that's what I'm saying. Like, okay, so someone like that who's a doctor and then just all of a sudden is like, I'm going to do a movie. Like, you don't just do that out of nowhere at like 50 years old or 40 or however old he was. Right, but sometimes, you know, maybe their parents, his parents pushed him to go to medical school, but he always wanted to be an actor. What's his name? Ken Jeong. Yeah, like he seems to really enjoy the fame aspect of Mazinger. So I'm just like, but he was a doctor for his whole life and he had a family and stuff. But he was on Community. Yeah.

After. So he did Hangover. I think that was his big break. And then he got Community. By the way, I love that you watched Community. I feel like me and Moe's are the only people that watched Community. Oh, I loved it back in the day. Me too. I kind of did too. But then you kind of watch it now and you're kind of like, it's kind of, Joel McHale gives me an ick a little bit. Really? Yeah. I don't know why in general. I liked him back in the day. I did too. But then he hosts House of Villains and on House of Villains I'm like, okay. Gives you an ick. Not the ick. He's just like,

He's so deadpan that sometimes I'm like, okay, let's wrap it up, Joel. Like he doesn't want to be there or something? Yeah, that's his shtick. He's like, why am I doing this lowbrow job or whatever? You know, like hosting this trashy show. That's kind of his shtick. But I'm like...

it gets a little tiresome after a while. Yeah. Let's, you know, pack it like in little doses, I think. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I, cause I feel like it was cute on the soup or whatever, but it's like, now it's like, he's like, why am I hosting this show? It's like, well, I don't know. No one else is hiring you. That's why you're hosting it. Like, why else would you be? I hate, I do hate that. I guess like you said, that's like his character, but that would be annoying. Especially if the show's like cute and camp. Like, like if, if,

Alan Cummings on Trader. Like, why am I here? It's like, that would like ruin the show. You know what I mean? I like that Alan Cummings, especially when it started. Like, I don't know if they expected it to be a big thing, you know, but he really, Alan Cummings really committed to like the campness. In the first season. We should watch the first season of that actually because we're running out of shows to watch. That's why we watched Young Sheldon. But Hacks is the other one. We should make a note of that because you had mentioned that before. It actually is a really good show. Okay, I always see that when we, is it on Max? Yes. Yeah, I always see that when we cut on Max and then we should watch Trader season one because I would love to see.

Yeah, he commits full on to that. I think his stylist for that show was on Watch What Happens Live with him. He was like the bartender. Do we want to go on that show or no? Watch What Happens Live? Yeah. Why not? What happens on it?

It's like a late night show. Interview? Yeah. With Andy Cohen. Although we probably talked bad about Andy Cohen. I would have to like check the tapes. Like, have we ever said anything bad about Andy Cohen? Honestly, at this point, I'm kind of just like, you know. Just expect it. Just expect it. Exactly. Until they prove themselves innocent, they're guilty. No. Really, for me, it's like, if you like me, then I take back everything I've ever said. Like, we love you, Andy Cohen. Like, you know what I mean? That's how we go. But, no, because Alan Cumming was on it. And then.

his stylist was like the bartender and I think Gigi was the bartender one time I don't know how this all happened someone told me it's really little in there it's tiny you been? no I've seen just seen it? yeah cause we've done like interviews there or whatever so you see like the full it's kind of like it literally is this actually really? yeah but they have like an audience yeah but it's like a small audience teeny I'd like to go on it I don't think I don't know why I'd be on it but I'd like to go on it

We can go to New York together. I am the Statue of Liberty today, so. It makes sense, yeah. Did you know we got the Statue of Liberty from Paris? Yes. Why? It was a gift. Oh, for what? I don't remember why. Damn, you were going there. I know. I knew the gift. Yeah. Because I think we, you know, helped them win the war against the Nazis, so. So they gave us a statue? Of liberty, yeah. That's sweet. Oh, like freedom? Mm-hmm.

But weren't we our own country when we helped them win? So we were already free? Yeah, we were definitely. So why did they give us the thing? Commemorative. It wasn't about. Commemorative plate. It was just a thank you. Oh, okay. It was a nice present. Because you liberated us. Here's the Statue of Liberty. We liberated Paris. France. And Europe in general. Oh, I didn't know that.

Damn, we did that. I guess that's one thing to celebrate in America, right? I mean, we're not all bad all the time. Bastille Day is on my birthday and that's the French Independence Day. I know that. Ooh. Oh, Bastille means what? I don't know. That's so weird. How come we're all getting our independence in July all of a sudden? It's like, you're independent, you're independent. People just marking it as that.

I mean, work on that for sure. Bastille Day. Well, I'm sorry you have to share your birthday with Bastille Day. Matt Howard would be upset. It is kind of a bummer. Yeah, at least I'm not French. That's true. So, yeah, it doesn't really affect me that much. That's why I think with the 4th of July birthdays, like, because that'd be, like, kind of awful because everyone's like, we're celebrating. I think just any holiday in general, if you're, like, on the actual holiday, it would be kind of bad, I guess. Yeah, because it's, like, you don't really have, like, your moment. Because, like, if you have your – I think of everything, like, as a post, right? So if you have your birthday post on the 4th of July, it's like, okay, then you're freaking –

in everyone's feed with like the fireworks and all that right you know so i was like damn yeah we did see i think we were looking at a house yesterday just like looking and there was like a happy birthday jessica and it was all like patriotic fireworks and so i guess you have to make it your theme at that point you're red white and blue i was like all right just like you change your name legally you should be able to change your birthday legally it's kind of true you should yeah right you know for for celebration purposes yeah yeah yeah something else oh right that means right yeah

Oh, yeah. That's a good point, actually. Yeah. Very Clinton Cain vibes. Just changing your year. Oh, gosh. Clinton Cain. He's also was one that made it a weird week. I feel like that's what I'm saying. Like you read all these like weird icky people and you're like, oh, don't put that in my life. You know what I mean? Yeah. I saw someone like try to research and like found like childhood photos of him. But it was kind of depressing, too, because it's like.

He was just a little boy. Like, why did you have to go and go off your family? Yeah, right. It's true. When you see someone as a little kid, you're kind of like, what happened? Because like every child is born like innocent and pure and just like sweet. And then it's like something happened to make you into a pathological liar. Yeah, like what? Snapped. Because we were talking about it, you know, Jim Morrison from The Doors. There's a famous interview that he said that his parents died in like a car accident or something. Was he lying? Yeah.

Yeah, they were alive his whole life. They were alive. His dad was like in the military and stuff like that. Isn't that crazy? So maybe he took a page from his book. You know, he was like, let me do that. Just for like the artistry of it all. Yeah. That is wild. It's like I'm a tortured singer because I lost my parents. That is so crazy. It's just like I can't wrap my head around it because it's just like a mystery. But like we'll never get to the bottom of it because he doesn't like –

Maybe one day he will. I feel like one day you have to be like, this is why I did it. Especially now. He must have offers. If Rolling Stone and People Magazine are reaching out to him, he must have offers for an interview. It's like a tell-all. Maybe he's saving it. He has a book or something, a book deal. His big one. What is the Clinton-Kane big one? What is the big one?

What does that mean, big one? Because people say that. Obviously, I kind of get it. But like what is it? What's it from? What's it originate from? For me, it originates from the canceled podcast. Oh, really? Yeah. But I know Tana gets her vocabulary from, I don't know, really random places. Oh, we should have Tana. That's a good question. The big one. Because I always see people like this. Oh, they did the big one with this. Yes.

That's like aura too. What's that? Like, oh, I got my aura points. Jeff has a watch called aura. You never seen that? No. Like how many aura points is this? I see this all over TikTok. It's A-U-R-A. I know what an aura is. Like your aura is like, you know, the colors that's like around you or whatever. So it's like a, usually it's like a positive. Yeah. It's almost like karma, like karma points. So I guess aura points. Oh, okay. I see people say it. Okay, aura points.

I never knew. And then he named it Aura Watch. So I was like, well, what's Aura? Like, I've seen this everywhere. Jack Wright's pictures resurfaced. Yes. Pop Crave got them. Oh, wait. They did? Yes. Where'd you get them? Did you get them on email? I got an email. They're like, I'm trying to get a hold of Oscar to send these to him, too. Oh, my God. That's so funny. But then they just sent me Pop Crave screenshots. So I was like, okay, Pop Crave has them. Oh, my God. I need to find it. They got the photos. I don't know who.

at PopCrate, but we need them on Hot Topics. I know. We actually do. We should make a list of all the people we want on Hot Topics now that we're doing two a week. I know. We have a lot of options. I mean...

Harry Daniels knows Pop Crave. Of course he does. Of course he does. He says Pop Crave is down to collaborate with Trish. Okay, well, Harry Daniels is coming on soon, so we'll ask him. Yeah, we'll get to the bottom of it. We want Be Better, Pop Crave. I like Shout Out Sloan. I'm trying to get Sloan hooks on here. Shout Out Trish Crave. I was going to say that. Did you follow them too? Yeah, I got my own little... Did they tweet about you following them? I saw you. You're like, ask her crazy follows Trish Crave. You're like, fast. So true. Yeah, so true. Yeah.

I love that. They actually have a lot of interaction in Trish Crave. I'm like kind of gagged by it because I mean, Stan accounts are just like so smart. Most of them. Yeah. Like, because they have graphics and everything. I'm like, they're so committed. They really are. They're on it. Who is that? Nowadays, you know, in the AI age, it's,

That's true. It's one website. We'll have Trish Crave on here too. I just want to know the people behind these accounts sometimes. I'm always like, which like, again, kudos, love it. Thank you for being on my side. But also like, that's dedication. It is, yeah. It's interesting. It's like a documentary on its own. Right. Stan accounts and anonymous. Meeting all those people. Even those drama channels and tea accounts and stuff, you're just like the ones that don't show their face. You're just like, who?

Uh-huh. How are you doing this so fast? Yeah. Spill Sash, like, before she did her face reveal, was like, wow, like, who is it? Like, the Morgan Adams conspiracy, like, that one was crazy. Yeah. That made sense because it wouldn't make sense that – because she's with Shane. And, like, so in the know. Yeah. Shane's, like, a gossip channel for sure. Like, he definitely could be behind –

so many accounts because he just like looks at everything. I mean, again, I haven't seen him in like five years, but like when I did know him. Yeah, like back in the day. Oh my God. He would see all the gossip, all the drama like instantly. Yeah. I used to be, when I was like younger, I used to be like obsessed with like all the tea, like the guru gossiper.

Oh, yeah. Oh, God. I used to check myself all the time on there, which was like the worst thing ever because they were so mean. They would like have the meanest names. My username was BlondSandDoll4MJ, so it would be like ObeseDoll4Sandwiches. And they would always change the name. There was like 100 threads about me. It was like Reddit, and I was just so obsessed. That's why I do not go on Reddit, good or bad. I'm like, where do you see this? It's fine if someone shows me something, but I can't get on it because I remember I would be such a spy.

And I kind of helped myself. I would refresh every hour – like every half hour to see what they said about it because they were updating it a lot. I was just like so obsessed with it. Yeah.

But I just, like, I can't do that anymore. Yeah. It's a lot. I think I was always just so interested to know, like, what everyone was up to. Like, the – Yeah. Because it was, like, who are the Fowlers, like, dating or blah, blah, blah. Yeah. I miss them. The, like, the Ellen Blair era was, like, top notch. That was good. Or, like, Ingrid, like, following, like, Ingrid and, like, Luke or whatever. Like, who's dating who? Blah, blah, blah, blah. And they would see everything. Yeah. They would see so much. Kind of, like, use it on the Reddit as, like,

when they're like, oh, Addison's Ray Fountain. I'm like, how do people see that stuff? You know what I mean? It's cool. Yeah.

cool. Like, again, I really wish I could see my own Reddit, especially the nice ones. Like, I wish I could, like, see it. But, again, I just know I go down a slippery slope. Because even if I'm looking at, like, people I don't like, like, I used to look up David Dobrik's Reddit, which was always dead. Like, it was always dead. Like, when I used to go there, it had, like, 50,000. I don't know if it's dollars or 40,000 or whatever. But, like, no one ever posts about him. I'm like, and this was maybe, like, I think I stopped Reddit, like, a year ago. So, I was like, God, no one really posts about David on there. Because I was like, you know, I don't keep up with him. So, I was like, I was just curious. I was like, what's happening? But, nothing was happening. Unless he's just boring. Yeah.

I always thought at least I'm entertaining because people post about me so much on Google Gossipers. I was like, well, at least I'm not. Yeah, at least you're being talked about, I guess. Yeah, every little thing analyzed. You want Mrs. Whistledown to be interested in you? That is very true. They are the original Lady Whistledown. She's lady, not miss. Miss is a young girl, right? So now she's a lady. Yeah, Lady Whistledown. Sorry, Colin.

Lady Whistledown. It really is like... I mean, I guess it always is the canceled roundup over here. Yes, we love it. Thank God they posted an episode. Well, it's my episode. But I mean, I was like, we missed the episode. We need to know what's going on. We need the tea. We need to commentate. Lila called out Tana and Brooke randomly in Lilability. Oh, okay, so...

Someone was telling us that like Lila Ability is kind of filmed in advance. So was this like a new – This was a newer one. It felt fresh. Yeah, because the title was about the wedding, about the vlogging at the wedding or whatever. And did she talk about it? I think so. Okay, so it's fresh. Yeah. Because they were reacting to – Lila and Stassi were reacting to Tana and Brooke reacting to Tana and Brooke on Lila Ability. Oh my god. Now we're reacting to all of that. And now we're reacting to Lila's reaction. Yes.

Oh, man. You need Jimmy to make a diagram. Yeah, all of it. A flow chart or something. Yeah. But... Jimmy with the mug cam. Lila was like going in on them. And Stassi, actually. They were really...

They're really going in. I think it was to like, you know, get talked about, which at work we're talking about. Right. But it's also a slow news day. Yes. It is a slow news day. Well, it's a double news day for us. We just had one. But they were coming for Tana and Brooke for like saying that –

They joked about their interview with Lila being filmed 10 months earlier because they had already, like, you know, announced their friendship separation or whatever. Right. And then that interview came out. And then so Tana and Brooke – all they really said was it was just funny that it was filmed 10 months ago. That was in my episode, right? They talked about that on canceled, like, separate. No, this was – they reacted to it a while ago because it came out, like, a couple weeks ago. Oh, okay. Yeah, because I think they told me that, too. I think they said that it was, like, filmed, like –

It wasn't a joke. I think it was actually filmed like 10 months ago. Literally. It was filmed 10 months ago. Yeah. But they were just like joking about how old it was or whatever. Yeah. And that's probably all they said. But then Lila was going in on like, you know, they wanted to invest in Lila-bility and that's why it took 10 months. And how dare you? Like we invited you here and we had a lovely conversation and blah, blah, blah, blah. Before their friendship ended. It was filmed before their friendship. The interview was filmed before their friendship. Right. So that's why the conversation was lovely. Yeah.

I actually feel bad. We did an episode with Lila, and I think it's good. People call it out and be like, this is crappy, whatever. But I kind of feel bad when people dogpile on her so much. You know what I mean? I mean, I know she doesn't do herself any favors by kind of being combative, for sure. But I think she's also – I don't know. And I don't want to use young because she's not a baby. She's 26. But it's like, you know –

It can feel like a lot. And then sometimes you're like – you just get defensive. And I will just say that. Like when people – like I double down. It's like the disassociated identity disorder. Like my initial video was like so sincere that I really thought I had this. And like watching Anthony Padilla's thing on this, I was like, oh, maybe this is something I have. And then when everyone came to like attack me, I kind of just doubled down and went like – I started like being, you know, trolling and stuff. Yeah, she does give me baby Trish vibes. Yeah. Well, that's okay. Not baby Trish vibes.

I know. I really feel like I always say this. There's a generation of people that were raised by the Jaclyn Hills, and then there's a generation that was raised by the Trisha Paytas. It's like the JoJo and Lila. You know what I mean? So I take a little bit of accountability. Lila-bility. Lila-bility for this. And she's always been cool with me and stuff like that. I've always been cool with her. So I do feel a little bit – I kind of feel sometimes bad about it because I think she gets the point. She's kind of screwed up a bunch of times, but she gets a little defensive, especially –

You know, and maybe too, like, you know, you think the beefs is like something people do. Okay, we're going back and forth. This is our thing. Do you know what I mean? Like, maybe that's where it's coming from. I didn't see the clip, but was she like, did she actually seem offended or more was just like, we're going to talk about this? I think Stassi also kind of went in on it. So she seemed kind of like upset by it. Upset about it?

Then I went back to see what Tana and Brooke even said, but all they really just joked about was it just being filmed a long time ago, which is kind of funny. It was filmed almost a year ago. Yeah. So I think that was just more – because I think they told me to, and it wasn't ever to be mean. It was just like, oh, we just filmed it so long ago. Yeah. Yeah.

And yeah, I guess – interesting that they wanted to like – what does that mean, invest in it? Maybe they wanted it as like an unwell sort of thing. That's what I was thinking. Yeah. Which would be smart. I always think people should do that when – because obviously a lot of people know Lila from Tana. So I feel like that is kind of smart if she were to do that. Like if they did do that. But obviously the friendship ended or whatever.

or whatever. But I was doing that too. I'm like, I want a network. I don't know anybody, but I'm like, I would love a network of podcasts, you know? But I love like her explanation. Lila was like, you know, movies take years to make and the Taj Mahal wasn't built in a day. Like, it took years to make that. See, I mean, that's kind of troll. That's kind of camp. You know what I mean? Like,

I think, right? I think so too. I don't think she's comparing herself to the Taj Mahal. Yeah, I think the – or like, you know, the Hunger Games or something. Like, I don't know. I think the line between trolling and serious is like so blurry with her sometimes. I guess like very you. Like sometimes people couldn't tell, you know? And I think it gets amplified or triggered when you're like in hot water. You're like, well, let me just troll so people don't know who I really am. Like was that me trolling at the wedding or is that really me? You know what I mean? Like I think maybe that's where it's coming from. Yeah. But I think like –

i don't know like getting people mad i think used to like be a better strategy i guess for like

basically like pre-2020, pre-sum up cancellations. Like, you know, being a little trolly, like got you views and you could kind of like consistently get views. But now people just get mad then they like turn off, you know? That's true. They turn off and it's also just something that follows whoever, even me doing it pre-2020. It's like really does just follow me forever. So I always just think it's a bad look. Like I talk about that pearl girl doing it. Lila's a little more like cute and fun doing it or whatever. But yeah, trolling definitely. Also there's a big difference because you always did it about yourself to yourself.

Yeah, that's true. I always say that. And there's people that do it to others and then it's a bit problematic. People get more, you know. That's true. More upset and there's actually somebody that got hurt by it, like the wedding. Like there's somebody that actually was at the end of that call. Wasn't like going around to people's. Prank or, you know. Yeah. So yeah, there's a big difference. Yeah. I mean, I guess, all right. Yeah.

I don't think the wedding was a troll, but I think maybe that like triggered her to start like trolling a little more or the Tana fallout maybe because people were constantly harassing her. So she's like, let me just give them the troll they want or something. You know what I mean? I don't know. That's what I'm – and are people – I mean, and she has a podcast too. You know, you kind of think like, oh –

I don't know. It's kind of like how we are. I don't know who – like maybe with the BFFs, not that we were ever beefing with them. But like for a minute, you know, you kind of have like a back and forth. Oh, yeah. Right? I don't know. Did we ever use them in a title? Maybe not. I don't know if we did use them in a title. I was in their title, which I think is Slay. I was like, wow. I think Drew Ronson said it. It's like it's always kind of cool when you like think, oh, my name gets views. You know what I mean? Team, yes. So I'll take it. But –

Yeah. Layla, I mean, you know, keep talking about it, I guess. I don't know. Maybe she'll talk about us next. Like, oh my God. Layla, I always loved you. We're cool, girl.

Yeah. But when something's, like, such a big topic that you have to comment on, I think she knows, like, by now, like, that obviously was not the move. Which – or the wedding part? Yeah. Oh, yeah. I think especially once, like, Alex and Culver are, like, saying it too. Like, you kind of just have to, like, concede. Yeah. Which could also, like, trigger her – because that's why I think when her video, she can know it was my gift of love and, like, they should have talked to me. Like, I feel like that's a little triggering because it's, like, embarrassing a little bit, right? Yeah. I see. Which some –

to this morning and my makeup artist was like you should do the I'm embarrassed sound because I'm embarrassed from inside out or something is that a new emotion oh there's a sound it's like I'm embarrassed and I guess it's a pink person in a gray hoodie but then I looked up the embarrassed emotion and it's a very large yes I used to say I look like embarrassed because I'm pink and I'm large today

yeah, I'll do it. And I was like, oh, okay. That would be my emotion. I don't watch inside out because I don't really watch cartoons, but I was like, we were talking about all the emotions they were giving them to me and I'm like, I think embarrassed would be my biggest emotion for sure. Like, I get embarrassed. I can remember things I was embarrassed for when I was eight years old. Like, I will always remember when I've been embarrassed and like, I hate being embarrassed and I get embarrassed easily. So I think that's my biggest one. What's your biggest emotion? Definitely anxiety. Anxiety was the main character of

of inside out main character energy over there she was anxiety was going through it like she was like yeah um who was her voice maya hawk from stranger things oh that's fitting her voice yes and like the little depiction of like anxiety like she just looked like a quirky orange girl and i was like this is kind of maya hawk vibes like i don't know if she has like like 70s like quirky aesthetic yeah this is so specific but there was like a video of her when she went to the met gala not this year last year and um

She... It was, like, almost like a... Not even saying, like, as a shade. Like, it almost looked like a toilet paper dress. Like, it was, like, a long, like, strip of fabric, like, white train. And she would, like... The way she walked out of the hotel, like... And everyone was, like, Maya, Maya. And then she just, like, flipped her hair and, like, strutted into the bus. And then it was, like, the long train of, like, toilet paper. And it was, like, a whole thing of, like... She really thought she was eating. Which I think she was kind of eating. But... I love even whether you're not or not eating when you just think you're eating. You know what? You know what?

That's everything. You know what? That is actually so true. Yeah. Like, watch. Yeah. Like, you know. Yes. I think you have to. She probably felt it, too. She probably felt it. You know what? Because people were saying it was, like, kind of cringy. You actually flipped me on it. Now I'm like, yes. Even if it's cringy, as long as you, like, believe it yourself and you are, like, just embodying it, it's a serve. Dedicate. Yeah. All the way. That's what I think, too. That's what I would do. Like, I'm not.

to feel good like if you're at the McAllen you probably feel good about yourself no one feels bad about themselves and honestly toilet paper is such a start wouldn't that be so cool if like the dress was designed by Charmin or something like that yeah and I have my bling toilet paper okay next year at the Met I have my bling toilet paper

so cute in all toilet paper dress I love it I would be into that yeah I would love it there's very few uh plus size representation at the Met me and Lizzo Lizzo commented on my TikTok I saw that yes I love that you saw that oh my god I was gagged she doesn't follow me either I was like did that just come up cross on her thing because that was yeah she loved the hair clips Amazon girl as Amazon um but Dr. Miami like that TikTok of Top of My Own like got like weirdly people that don't even follow me commenting like I was like yeah Dr. Miami was like commenting I was like

know it was very cool I don't maybe they thought it was really chapel maybe they thought it was her maybe you know you did sell it thanks I really try um but oh I love well you know

Always wishing her the best. Genuinely. Always. Genuinely because, again, I do feel like – I mean, obviously Tana and Brooke have – there were more personal issues. Like I don't know it, but obviously they know her personally, so there was more like just personal issues. And I think they handled it – what I can see, Tana and Brooke just said like the friendship fell out, whatever, and it seemed like Lila the same way. They're not really like talking about it, which is like good and classy. But in general, I think she just maybe gets like – I don't know. Maybe I just have a soft spot for her. I feel like there are certain people I'm just a little more like softer on because I'm just like –

That's just Lila. That's Lila. That's just JoJo. I don't know. Lila's all soft for JoJo's shoes sometimes. Me too. You know? As much as, like, I give JoJo crap, I still, like, I know that she's smart and I know that she has the ability to serve people.

And I know that her like moment of like artistic slay is coming. I agree. At some point. I think like she's going to ride this like, you know, cringy bad girl wave. But I think the next one, she's going to really shock everyone and be like, she's going to like let her hair down and she's going to change the way she dresses and she's going to like really slay. And be more like authentic. I feel like you do predict this kind of stuff. Like you predict things. I just feel it. You predicted Octopus to be huge. Uh-huh. Like first episode, you're like, he's going to be big. Yeah.

And I was like, yeah, I don't know if you said it out loud, but I remember you said to me, like, no, that guy's going to blow up. I'm like, really? He does, like, impressions of, like, Abraham Lincoln or something. I was like, okay, that's random. And he did. Look at you. You predicted that. You predicted Taylor and Travis, her athlete era. Oh, yeah, you're right. You are very good at the predictions. And I'm good at predicting who's not. Like, I could have clocked Clinton Cain, like, years ago. Zach Sang. Yeah. Right, Zach Sang. Well, you know, well.

Maybe one day. I know someone's like, Trisha sometimes defends the wrong people or she plays devil advocate for the wrong people. I'm like, sometimes I just try to see both sides. Look, I've always seen Brooke. And like, Clinton is like, obviously, in my opinion, a psychopath. But I think like, I try. I'm like, okay, well, in my opinion, I thought he had a good song. But yeah, you're right. Maybe sometimes I shouldn't. Another person I have a soft spot for that maybe, not a soft spot, but maybe people thought I had

A hot take on is the – do we talk about James Charles? Wait, do I have deja vu? We didn't talk about him yet. On Patreon, did we? No. Oh, not on Patreon. It was – I think your episode canceled. You talked about – oh, and Jeff's episode. Oh, that's where it was. Okay. So yeah, I did see some people. There was like a little clip of me defending James and sometimes she defends the wrong people and it's like –

Sometimes maybe, but sometimes I get a little soft spot because we just came out of Dramageddon where I just think... Yes, you're in the 2019. Yes, that's where I'm like, God, I wish I could go back to 2019 and have sympathy for James when no one else did because maybe I could always say that started his villain story. But I have

sad about it. And then even the little clip with Jeff, you know, I kind of felt a little bit, only because I've also been in that situation, obviously the reverse way, like, you know, where like maybe a gay guy pretended to flirt with me or whatever, or like me for whatever reason, but you like truly feel it, right? You're like, oh, I hooked up with this person. I kissed this person, whatever. Like maybe they liked me. So I get where it was coming from. So like,

I have a... Sometimes I just defend people when I feel like maybe they've been hurt. Because I think two things can be true, right? You can like be an awful, like an icky person, which, you know, might... Even a broken clock is correct twice a day. It doesn't mean... Because we're not just canceling somebody. Like they're awful all the time. Every decision they made was bad. No, there might have been a few times that they were right or they were hurt. Yeah, but I do feel with...

I think him deleting that like apology video where he said, yeah, this – you know, I did text him when he was like under eight and then like deleting it. So it's like he took accountability but then deleted it and then acted like that never happened and stuff like that. I was like, okay, that's kind of – Yeah. I don't know. Yeah, because like I think he did that one. Then he deleted that one and then the one that came up – I think he had another one where he –

I don't know if it was the same one or a different one where he said, like, these people, like, lied about their age. Like, I asked him and they said they were 18 and then they ended up not. And I know for sure there was certain circumstances where he was getting, like, baited by guys just to be able to, like, have the screenshot and, like, be like, oh, look at James Shaw. You know? Yeah, it sucks. But out of – like, I do believe he was baited, but I –

There's so many other like circumstances that I'm like some of these kids like have to be telling the truth. Like they can't all be fake, right? Like there's just so many. I mean definitely like there was definitely one he was like, yeah, I should have checked the age. Yeah. So I think he knows and I think he said in interviews that he like likes young looking guys and it's just like if that's the case like you just really got to like check it. Also when you're famous too or like I guess not famous but like have a following, you just got to be careful in general like talking to fans. It's kind of like

I saw James' other thing now is like – because he got in trouble for like screaming about Joe Biden in a TikTok and then like he had to delete it because he was just like – Oh, he deleted it? Yeah. Kevin McHale called him out, the guy from – the guy who played the wheelchair kid in Glee. Yeah. Everyone was really coming for him. Yeah. He's like, you say you know nothing about politics. Stop saying nothing. I was like, ooh, I want to know what is happening here. Yeah. It's like –

if you're gonna screw like scream about it and like come from like a place of like authority like you know what you're talking about like you kind of have to be like unclocked was he in the wrong yeah because he just blamed like joe biden for stuff that like technically like just he couldn't do like it was technically like donald trump stuff i don't know whatever yeah he's like he goes oh my gosh biden just said he would reinstate robert's way if he was president you are and i'm

good point actually and then I was like I saw the other people and I was like okay there's judicial branches and checks and balances but it sounded convincing I was like that's true that's literally a child's thought it doesn't work like that at all honestly it did make sense to me it's like that's actually kind of accurate like he is like president well not everyone knows about supreme court okay do you know about this too I don't know okay so I know the I know like I know very like the surface level of

Okay. So Trump is the one who banned – Yes. Took it away. Yeah. And it bleeds over into Biden's term because the Supreme Court is mostly really conservative Republicans or whatever. And there's people that Trump reinstated. I think he reinstated a couple in there. So that's why it's like the majority is Republican. So it's not like – Yeah, because they're there for life. The judges in the Supreme Court are there for life. Brilliant.

And you only have a once in a lifetime opportunity to submit somebody to it. How old are they? And on Trump's watch, basically, two have expired and he had two to reinstate. They died? Does expired mean they died? They have to. Why did you say expired? I don't know. That's what came to my mind. So anyway, so he turned the whole court into a more conservative court and they made that choice.

So what do we do about that? How do we, nothing can be done. It's like lottery. It's just a matter of luck if you get to reinstate the judge, you know, if when democratic or in power that it happens or not.

Yeah, it's wild. It's a draw of the like. It's crazy. And there's like arguments about like expanding it, whatever. I don't know. But that's the thing. Like I would never go on TikTok and scream about politics. I'm like, I don't know. Like I would. Right. Yeah. Like I wouldn't go on like the Hassan show and be like, yeah, Hassan, like Supreme Court. Like what's the tea? Like, you know, I wouldn't have a conversation with him about like the judicial branches because I just don't know that much. So it's like.

Yeah. I don't know why James decided to get in his activist era, but I think we got to back up. Like, let's just work on like, you know, the course correcting all the other like scandals before we get into like, you know, the activism of it all. I think this is like one instance where like you shouldn't just think you ate. You know what I mean? Like he had the confidence in me and he thought he ate. But it was like, because honestly,

I really, it was convincing, but. That's why, like, he came across so, like, authoritative. So, because he was so angry. He's so frustrated at Biden. And I'm like, I feel the frustration. And like, I was just like, what? And then I went to look at his other TikToks, but I thought that's his thing now. Like, he is yelling and like upset about things. And his TikTok, he was screaming at his, like, his car. He was screaming about his Tesla. Tesla's telling me I can go from Poster. And I'm like, what? That's like his new. No, that's right. We saw that one. He's like, you guys, how does this make sense?

it's 9% battery, but also like, I'm like, and he's like showing that I have no idea how Tesla's working. I was just like, what is happening? He's like, I'm coming back from Palm Springs and this doesn't make sense. Like, why would it be an hour and a half if it's 9%? It's like with those old math problems. If a train drives in this speed and that distance, when will you get there? Like, it's just like an estimate. Like, you know, if you have the air on, if you're like, it depends how fast you, like, yeah. And you're also like sitting in your car wasting battery right now. Like, because you're just like sitting in park making this weird TikTok. You should note

that the AC actually does with gas cars too I never knew that I remember my mom would always turn the AC off if we were running low on gas and I was like what and like why was that Malibu? no did I say my mom oh your mom I thought you said Malibu I was like wow conservative queen she's driving now she's in the front just turning it on eco-friendly queen live for her

about being eco-friendly these days. Now that I do have a daughter, I was like, you know what? Let's try and save the environment a little bit. I don't know what can be done. Oh, because, oh, well, they're not sponsoring this one, but Liquid Death, they murder your thirst and kill plastic bottles. Yeah, because you can recycle the cans. Yeah. Love that. So I was like, you know what? That kind of makes sense, actually. Liquid Death's not sponsoring today, but I like that they are a sponsor because they're doing something that's good for anybody. Yeah, you know, trying to get this

earth around a little longer, I guess. And save the dolphins and whales and all of that. The turtles. Yes, the turtles. I think no one cares about the turtles because the straws are back everywhere. Everyone has plastic straws again. But there's probably like plastic bottles in the ocean that might work. Bretman Rock was really going for the turtles for a long time. But I mean, there's only so much Bretman Rock can do. He follows me now on TikTok. Live for that. Yeah. Should we have him on? He doesn't come much though. Over time.

the mainland yeah he doesn't he's a he should i love him he's so i saw a photo of his boyfriend oh my god really what's he look like like just tall ripped like huge like back shoulders like six pack like muscular ripped guy and brendan's also like ripped yeah no his body's crazy he's so strong he's got that long luscious hair he's actually beautiful yeah yeah like so gorge and like

Living just that we're talking earlier, the meaning of life like Bretman Rock has it nailed down. Oh, yeah. Truly minding his business. Great. Like looks good. Great family. Fun family. Yeah. Has those little animals. Beautiful house. Beautiful boyfriend. Yeah. The gardening and the farm life. I mean, that's the best you can do in life. Oh, for sure. I know. I would love to just live in Hawaii, but we're not supposed to go there, right? If we're not.

Islanders were just not supposed to go live over there. I don't know. That's another whole thing. You need to be a billionaire. You need to be like Zuckerberg, Oprah. They're the wrong billionaires. You need to burn down a whole

you know neighborhood allegedly or something i don't know bb rex not going off on the music industry she's another one that was when we first started she like reached out was like i want to come on the podcast i was like absolutely yes and then we kind of lost touch but then when i had elvis she like was like she was like literally the first person to be like congratulations like on a text so i love bb rex says she's in the news again because um she says she's going to expose the music industry i wish she would i read a thread i love twitter for this reason the thread the one he sent me like chapel like i love threads where you can like really go into detail and

Maybe you sent it to me. You sent it to me. I sent it to you, yeah. The Bebe Rexha one of just like all the times that the music industry just totally like failed her because she's like this like song, like a singer-songwriter. She's been for like so many years, I guess since like 2013. But the one that stood out to me was, do you remember when Britney Spears performed with G-Eazy? Uh-huh. And they, and I didn't even know it was a Bebe Rexha song. She did that song. It's like, me, myself, and me.

self and I. No idea that was Bebe's breakfast party. She didn't even know they were performing it. They didn't tell her. She didn't know. And she's like, probably because they were scared I was going to say no, so they didn't tell me until like after. She's obviously, it's Britney, so whatever, but like basically didn't get like any money or anything for it because they didn't like run it by her or something like that. I'm like, that's so, because that was like her

was like her song yeah and I was like wow and she was yeah they didn't and then the stuff with Jeezy that she went out last time I don't know there was just so many things where they didn't push her album they didn't push like they didn't give her a budget for a music video so she paid for her own music videos like it's actually kind of weird how much they like suppressed her and stuff like that and still to this day and she did say and I even tweeted her I was like girl do you want to come on the podcast now or whatever because she said a lot of people have been asking for interviews she goes so if you talk about me I just mentioned her music so her new music is in the drama which I love that

She's in the drama. She started the drama. Or she's in the drama. She's in the drama. You know how the music industry started it? She's in it. So if you want to expose the music industry, you can come on Just Trish because we love an exposing segment. Yeah, I remember like she wrote the Eminem Rihanna song, Monster. What? Yeah, and there was like her own version. I guess she did the demo of it. And I remember on like the Tumblr days like hearing that and I really liked her version of it. That's the first time I heard of her.

Wow. But it's crazy. Like people are – she's another one like stands – can be like shady towards like, oh, Bebe, whatever. But like she actually has written so many like hit songs. Same as like a Meghan Trainor. Like people want to like clown on their discography or something. But then if you see their writing credits, like they've written a lot of like number one songs. Yeah. That may not be theirs, but they're the ones that are behind it, you know? Songwriting is crazy too. Like that's like – you wrote Monster with Rihanna and Eminem like that.

That was a huge song. Yeah. And that was like her first like one, two. You know what I mean? Like her first like big writing credit is like a number one. Like Rihanna, Eminem, two biggest artists of the time, you know? Wow. That is wild. I didn't know that either. I was first aware of her. I think the first episode of this podcast.

You said something about her boyfriend fat shaming her. And I didn't really – I didn't know really – I guess I heard – I knew her songs. I guess maybe I didn't know her name or something like that. And I was like immediately on her side because I was like, oh, this – who fat shames her? And I'm like, she does get fat shamed and she's like literally not fat again. And I'm like, this is so bizarre to me. People say I was Meghan Trainor too. They were like, isn't this crazy that in 2014 like this was considered like the fat anthem? Yeah, she was the curvy girl. Yeah, curvy. She was the face of like fat, which is crazy. Like body positivity. Yeah. She's like, I'm in a corset. And like so like –

like tiny waist. Yeah. It is wild, I know. And that's – we're still there. Ten years later in 2024, Nicola Coughlin is like the face of the – Plus size. Yeah. Actresses. Interracial. Oh, my God. The fat girl with the – I was like, what? Like she's literally – anyways, I guess that's good. I mean, you know, whatever. I guess there's different body types in a size zero, which is, you know, we appreciate. But to call someone like fat or plus size and stuff like that is like, okay, we're like going a little nuts. Yeah. I feel for Bebe though. I hope –

She's kind of like a Tana. It's like whenever they do expose everything, it'll be like a huge – Yeah. You know? Because they – like Bebe has gone through a lot. Like just as a songwriter, she's been in so many like writing rooms. She's written for so many artists. She probably does. I remember too there was like – I forget which song was it. It was like Hey Mama or something I think with like Nicki Minaj. But then that was another one where like she was on it and her voice is on it. But at first they wouldn't put her name on it. Why? They just put like the bigger – like Nicki and someone else. I forgot who else was on it. So weird.

weird yeah and then like she had to like bring it up and then they finally like added her featuring Bebe Rexha whatever oh my god but it was like her voice was on it like that's wild and she wrote it yeah that is so wild to me like why wouldn't she get the credit especially like now that she has kind of like made a name for herself she's out there people know who she is like why are they still like suppressing her like it's so weird yeah it's sad

And she still – does she still write – obviously she's still writing, right? Yeah. She's still like releasing music and stuff too. So – Wow. I love Bebe. Like I said, even before I knew what song she was saying, I was like, I love this girl. Like I love her. And she congratulated me when I gave birth to her. Which I was like – it was so random. I had her from literally like last September and it was literally the first text I got someone saying congratulations. That's just me. Yeah. I was like –

That was what I was most excited about for so long. I was like, oh my God, Bebe Braxton on the podcast. Because I really did start deep diving when I thought it was a possibility. And then it ended up just getting really busy and stuff like that. But I deep dived into her so much last year. And I was like, I really like this girl. Just everything about her. And just, I don't know. Also just like her TikToks. And she does seem like very just like real. Like just a normal person. I know everyone's a normal person. But she seems super real, you know? Yeah. I was just like just chilling and hanging out. Do you know Lily Allen?

No. That song's, at first I feel bad for a while. Okay, yeah. She's British. Yes. Her brother's on Game of Thrones. Yeah. Oh, I think I remember that. Oh, wow. That is some deep lore that you know. I knew because I was like, oh, his sister's Lily Allen. Again, I told you, I like this guy on Game of Thrones. I like...

dug deep into it was he the one that got his or he yeah yeah chop the spoiler i guess spoiler why do they why did they do that i don't know game of thrones is wild though they just be slicing a dice that was crazy everyone likes that show wouldn't you that should be a red flag if someone says like game of thrones like why i mean it is a really popular show but like kind of sick right right i guess i don't know like a dommer or something i don't know

um lily allen so yeah so she just joined oaf specifically for her feet pics and

Oh, actually? Because everyone always says they want to join. Chloe's like, I want to join for feet pics, but no one actually does. She actually did. Yeah, because she is married to David Harbour, who is like, he was the sheriff on Stranger Things. Yeah. And I guess in their vacation photos, she had her feet on his Instagram story. And then she ended up just posting her feet herself and said, La Dolce Fita. And then she put a little link to her OF, and she's selling feet pics on there, actually. Do you know how much?

What kind of feet pics are we seeing? Is it just her feet or is she doing stuff with her feet? Oh, $10 a month. That's not terrible. I wonder how much she's making. Does it say? Oh, gosh. She only has seven posts up so far. But it has like 100 likes on her post. So $10.

And like, you know, on OF, not everyone is like engaged, like, you know, likes or comments or whatever. Wait, how many likes was it? She gets like a hundred likes and she has a subscription is $10 a month. I feel like it's what? Probably like double the likes is what it normally is. You think?

Like what normal people get. Yeah. Because I feel like not everyone likes like they just view. Right, right. I guess 100. I think that's pretty good. Especially for feet stuff. Yeah. For only seven photos. Was she – how popular is she? I guess I don't know like her popularity. Like is she – I don't know like the scale of popularity either. I think – I mean being married to David Harbour, he's kind of – he's like in Marvel and Stranger Things which is like the two. What's he in Marvel? He is in the – he's with Florence Pugh in a movie.

She's everywhere too, mom. Yeah. Yeah, I'm like her. So I think he's – especially the nerd demographic I imagine between those two. That's true. You're married to that person. They're like, ooh, I get to see your wife's feet. But then also – I mean when people say, oh, I would show my feet. I'm like, okay, but that's not what people want to see. Like maybe there is a small like niche, but I would feel like the majority of people want to see sex on OF. I guess. I don't know. Or not. Maybe not. Maybe not. Maybe there's a big market for it. I don't know. Whose feet? Someone –

Someone commented, because like on your Instagram stories, you always post your feet or something. Do I? Yes. Dogs are out. Really? You should be like selling that. Like someone said that. Really? Yeah. I guess I never view feet as sexual. I don't either. Yeah. I guess I did post my feet the other day. But now that I'm like, oh, that's like kind of weird. Like I literally was just like showing my feet. But I was like.

It's just not like sexual. Like if I show my toes getting a pedicure or something. I think it was a girly. It was from the perspective of a girly saying that you should like sell them. Oh, like they're trying to help me monetize it. Yes, yes. They're looking out for that. Well, I'm not in the market to monetize off.

sexuality anymore but you know more power to everybody I've been there done that and I don't think my feet are the desired kind because they're called someone told me they're called flintstone feet where they're like short and flat and that's not the desired look oh yeah they're like long toes I don't think I have like the desired look what's yours also like wide and like

yeah i don't think the width is what people are looking for maybe maybe the narrow and the arch i feel like yeah those long toes yeah like the margot robbie everyone always talks about her it's because of like everything she's in she's always shows really yeah uma thurman was like that too in uh all quentin tarantino's movies like always feet who was what did i just see oh halsey was doing like a

a parody of like early 2000s and she like said like go rate my whatever the feet website or whatever she was like oh what is it I forget what it's called something like yeah yeah yeah where you like rate them or something was she showing her feet no she was just saying like go rate my feet five stars or something I don't know I saw something with Halsey recently too she had like pink hair what was that for so she's teasing she's in the new movie Maxine ah

The Mia Goth movie. And then she's also like in the midst of like a new era. But she's like covering Britney Spears like Lucky. And like Britney followed her. So people are like, oh, maybe they're collabing or something. I don't know. Yes. Right. That's what I heard. I saw it on TikTok and I was like, wait, is this Britney Spears Lucky? But she's singing it though. Halsey's singing it.

Yeah. Love it. She's using it. Oh my God. That'd be crazy if they came out with music. I know. And they've like interacted before, like a couple of years ago, like just being sweet. So you like Halsey? I do like her. She's really sweet. She's another one. Almost like a Bebe Rexha that like got a lot of hate. Like it's like, you know, cyclical. Like she came out, she was really big. She was like the alternative girl. And then people were like hitting on her because like her voice is too alternative. Oh, like trying to. Is she the girl at the mall that's singing? Yes. That's really her? Yes, that's her. Because I always.

we saw that go around and then i'm like oh my god i can't believe this halsey i'm like but like halsey's huge so yeah i gotta start from somewhere what was the song she was singing i forget what it was called i just saw it the other day there it is very trist tonic she's like mimicking him which i like she's just like standing like that's

I like her because it doesn't even look like a performer. It just looks like this alternative kid that's like, watch me. She's just like, you know, it just looks like someone who wouldn't be good, but she's cute. I like it. She gave a verse, a chorus.

That's wild. If someone asked me to sing in the mall, I'd be like, absolutely not. You are insane. Yes. And someone came up and was like, please, can you sing I Love You, Jesus? Absolutely not. That's so weird. You wouldn't sing I Love You, Jesus. Absolutely not. First of all, one, it's just uncomfortable. Like, you're right in front of me and they're recording me with the phone. I'm like, I can't even do it now. That's so weird. It's so weird. Never. It's like...

even like facetime i'm like it's just weird but then to be like can you sing your own like that's it's very much giving hayley bailey asking joseph quinn to say like hayley wake up it's that it's like what like happened to another tiktoker with austin butler he wanted him to sing with him on the red carpet yes and he's like how about you sing like because it's just what like that's his craft that's what he's not me for an oscar for he's not gonna just do it for you on the red carpet like a like a monkey you know like a performing monkey like it's just i don't know that's

I love that she did it. That's what I'm saying. And not only did she do it, she gave chorus verse outro. And I was like, yeah, that's great. No, that's so cringe. Because I think that's what Harry Daniels made his whole career off is just being cringe. Just people singing at you. Like, that's the most awkward thing. I don't care if you're like my favorite singer. I don't care if you're The Weeknd. If The Weeknd was like, I'm going to sing a little song to you and just started singing. I'd be like, no. What? But you always want to sing with people.

That's so different. That's like we're having a key. It's fun. Like, you know, we talk about a song. Like, oh, man, we love the song. Like, sing together. But if I'm like, if I see The Weeknd and I'm like, oh, can you sing like Blinding Lights? Like, that's weird. Oh, like you mean asking him. Asking him. And also in public. In public. It's very different than making content. It's like... On the red carpet, I see Austin Butler. Oh, can you sing a little Can't Help Falling in Love? Like...

No, there's just everything about it's cringy for them, for you. What if Austin Butler asked you to sing on the red carpet? Yeah, but that's so different, right? He's like, sing a little Elvis for me, baby. Then you're honored. You know, it's an honor. Of course. That's what I'm saying. But like, right.

what you're saying I guess like I'll say like but even with like Olivia right who sang with me Olivia O'Brien and I don't think I would ever ask her to sing with me like she wanted to sing and I was like wait really like no one was saying especially a singer I wouldn't ask to sing with me because again that's like their craft and like they don't want to like if they're not like pitch perfect they haven't practiced they haven't warmed up maybe they don't want their voice to sound like a certain way I don't know that's just like in my head for me it's just cringy like I don't want I don't want that tape to get out there and be like wow Trisha's really just singing to anybody no one cares you know I don't know something like that it's just I don't

I don't know. Right? I would, yeah. No. Because even one of my favorite clips on TikTok is, do you know Rainy Rodriguez? Yes, of course. I love, yeah, wait. Oh, you know,

Oh, you know it? That's all I know. I'm like Spanish speaking over there. You're like, I don't know Spanish. I'm no Sambo kid. But you're like, I was learning it today because it's like literally so catchy. But even that song is like a little awkward when she says it on the red carpet. But I do love when she ends it and she's like, then call me. Something like that. It was very like. Slayed. Slayed. Confident. Yeah. Yeah.

confident for sure love it I want to do a remix of it it's so good but that one the Halsey one I always saw it and I was like oh my god that's like so cringy I feel so bad for that 2010 like emo kid that has this out there forever and then someone's like it's Halsey I was like what the hell I feel bad for this 2010 show yeah because I was like oh no it's probably like this embarrassing thing that someone did like years ago they hated it it's out there I wonder if she ever commented on it it's not embarrassing she did oh she did oh she did

What did she say? She said, okay, so a mall video. Let's get into it. I was a teenager and I had never sang in front of people like that before and I had terrible stage fright so my voice was shaking even though it was a mall, not a stage. I actually don't mind because it's sort of sweet, I guess. It is sweet. It is sweet. But that's what I'm saying. It's kind of like she's never sang in front of people so it's like this shaky voice that it's endearing especially now that you're a superstar and you like made your name off being like a singer. That's cool but I always thought that clip, I'm like, oh my god. Like clips of me singing when I was younger, I'd be so embarrassed by it. I mean, I wouldn't care but

I also don't make my career off singing. I was going to say, clips that you say, but meanwhile, you have crazy clips of you out there. I guess it's just different when you're like a singer. You know what I mean? Like, I don't know. Not just me, just like, you know.

No, but definitely would never sing to you. Don't ask. Never ask me in public to sing to you. That's so embarrassing for everybody involved in like including my age. That's a good PSA because I would think that you would be down to sing because you always are trying to get people to sing with you here. So I feel like people would think that you'd be wanting to sing. I guess if it's like not my own song, maybe possibly, but it'd be like singing with them and they couldn't be like just filming me. I don't know. It'd be like, I don't know. I can't. No one's ever asked. We'll say that way. That's never been a circumstance and like thank God for that. You know what I mean?

If you want to sing to me, that's fine. If you're a fan that wants to sing to me. Like a Harry Daniels. Yeah. Harry Daniels. He's like the industry plant. Oh my gosh. I don't know. I guess we won't talk about it. Did you see that? The person who wants to be on their podcast, we won't talk about it. I don't know if I should. In the group chat, the person who wanted to be on their podcast. Oh, yeah. Isn't that crazy? I live. I think it's camp, but that's just me. But then I actually have...

said I don't like this person. Not her. I just think I don't get it. Yeah. I think it's whatever. I'm like, I don't get you, but like, I'm going to come on. I think this is a situation where the rule applies where if I ever talk bad about you, but you like, like me, then I like you again. Yeah. Same. Okay. Yeah. So maybe I'll just say that. You don't know what the angle is because different interview has different angles. So you don't know what... The way they presented it too was just like, just pick a place. It was like...

I'm setting it up. Maybe that's how it happened. Maybe that's how the original happened. They're like, oh, come to my bed. I should. Maybe in the bed. You probably don't know it. Anyways, people might know.

but whatever. I would live. I would live. I think it's fun. This is the summer of like, let's work it out on the remix to quote Lorde and Charlie XCX. Yeah. You know, it's like brat summer. Yeah. Girl squashing beef. Especially when it's like unserious. We talk about people, people talk about us. Does it really matter at the end of the day? That's all I think. And that's like, yeah, we talked about that, right? Like people like Jake or Weber, like saying he didn't like me, like interesting guy was annoying. Like I do think it is like, yeah, it's a circle of life here on social media. It's like, you know, you talk about someone and you know, then you collab, you're like, okay, you're kind of cool. But you

is everybody probably is kind of cool like I'm sure like again we haven't dug deep into James I need to like rewatch everything I'm still ick by James as of now but but it's like yeah you probably meet him he's probably like nice like David Dobrik too we'll put that as an example like you meet him and he's like yeah he's charming like people like him and he's charming and great and you know it's like I don't know you meet someone they're probably nice to you like they're probably especially if they're social media people there's a reason people like them so

Anyways, maybe I'll do it. I think it's camp. I feel like even with call her daddy, I was just like, hey, just so you know, there's definitely a clip of me being like, you're annoying. I'll be here gardening. Join me. Yeah. Gardening. Yeah. Like something very. Maybe I'll eat. Oh,

She's becoming more like female based so maybe I like that. She's turning yeah. With girls she seems to be a little more like real. Yeah. Not so character. The problem is as a character it's just hard for me to interact with as we know. I know you've said that. Terry Jo was an exception but I think even with like

I said Colleen's face is just like the Miranda Sings. I just don't, I can't, don't want to interact with that. But said it then and said it now. But, you know, characters are just interesting in general. There was one on Impulsive. Who was that guy? Did you see that? There was like a weird guy that people say is a character, but it's not. Donald Trump? No, it just came out recently. It was like, no, he's like kind of big on TikTok. And the whole thing was like this bit. He's like, what are you guys doing after this? And they're like.

They were silent. He's like, okay, I'm going to go. You didn't see that? No, I saw it. Yeah, I saw it. Isn't he like an OG YouTuber? Oh, I have no idea. Tyler O'Brien. Matt. Tyler was on there. Wasn't Matt something? No, but I know what you mean. Yeah, and then they're like, are you a character? And he's like, no. And then he was obviously being a character, I think. And they have weird people. I was like, like you said, they're having Trump on, but then you have this guy. Like, it's kind of weird. Yeah.

Did the Trump one come out? It didn't come up yet. It did. It just came up on my for you page on YouTube. I haven't seen any clips about it. You get like 5 million views as of now. That's crazy. It hasn't been clipped unless TikTok doesn't like allow those clips or something. But like you think it'd be clipped. Or it's like a different side of TikTok that we're not on. Yeah. I saw like a little bit of the debates, but like nothing. Yeah. That's.

It's wild that, again, the straight man privilege, I guess. Right. Like your tweet when you're just like, oh, Joe Biden looked like Britney Spears. Oh, my God. Wow. Worst takeout. Yeah. Look at Donald Trump. I'm like, yeah, it is wild. You're right. In politics, you're always going to be 50 percent wrong. You know, he's always going to be half of humanity. They'll be against you.

I saw the story. So there is a TikToker. Her name is Zina. It just came across my FYB page. I wasn't looking. I never look for Zach Justice clips. If anything, I like always held off. We talked about him on Patreon, but I kind of always held off on talking about him because obviously he does dropouts. You guys know I love Tara. So like it's not a reflection of her. I don't really watch dropouts like that. So I don't know any of this. I didn't know the back history of any of this. Also, obviously, like, you know, there's people that are friends with him, but I don't think that those people should be held. But I was like held off because I just

You know, I didn't know too much about it. But when he came for that, the TikToker, Xena, who was talking about this, I was kind of like, this is a red flag. This is something where it should be, like, looked at further. Yeah, so her handle is Xena Wina. And it's, like, a lot of... We should put it on the screen because it's a lot of vowels. She's, like, not... She's, like, a smaller TikToker. She's not, like, a huge creator. I think the original TikTok that she did had, like, a thousand views, she said, when Zach had seen it. So it was a smaller TikTok and...

She basically was just doing like a timeline of Zach Justice's like friend friendship to relationship pipeline with Indiana, who was like the original co-host of Dropouts. And her whole angle was just like, this is strange. That's pretty much just what she was saying. She wasn't like accusing of anything illegal. She was just saying the whole point was basically it's just weird that you knew someone when they were 14 and you lived with them and then you

You ended up dating them. That was basically the gist. Because they weren't just co-hosts. They dated. Yes. Yes. And then, like I said... When she was 18. Yes. But also, yeah. But also what his age. Because it's not like a high school sweetheart. Yeah. How old was he when she was 14? He was seven years different. So 21 when he first met her. And they go back and forth. He says we didn't start dating until we were 20. But there's obviously like TikToks of them where he's like smacking her butt when she's about to turn 19 and all that stuff. So Zach...

um saw this tiktok again when it was just had like a thousand views and then he found zina like on um instagram and started like contacting her there and um he basically like reached out he was like this is a very situation like call me about it which is like it's a lot to like reach out to a stranger and then yeah and i get from his perspective like obviously like if you think someone is like spreading like misinformation about you and you think that you can like explain it

At least to his benefit, they're like, you know, reaching out to someone to kind of like, you know, communicate and get like his point across, like obviously has a right to defend himself, but the calling and like, he was very adamant that like they need to talk on the phone about it. Um,

Which is just like kind of odd, especially for like, you know, a random. This is not like a huge creator with like a humongous platform. Yeah, she's replying like, you know, I'm at a hair appointment. I can't like I'll just DM like I would never call just like a random influencer and talk to them or whatever. But also like he was he that's when he starts seeing the manipulation. He's like, I would never manipulate someone. And then like literally three down. He's like, if you cared, you'd call me or something like that. I was like, she doesn't know you. She's having a conversation with you in the DMs. Like it was just so weird. That whole thing is like I knew it. You did it for the views, which like you said, had like a thousand views at the time.

He also said that she's like, oh, and you call me a PDF file. And she's like, I never did. Like, that was one projection on his point. Like, why? She never said that. And then two, it's like you make PDF file jokes all the time. Like, it was just... Yeah, it's hard because also he's like really well-liked. And when you go against someone that's like really not even against, just like, here's the thing, right? Like, I, in this, like, I was trying to think like the point of all this, like to bring it up because he will argue like, you know, whatever.

I just think it's more of like it's a moment to talk about because all this is public. They're acting like it's not like none of this is wrong when it is wrong. And then my biggest red flag was him coming after the TikToker, which I feel like Indiana actually wasn't her DM to the TikToker wasn't as bad as Zax. I thought Zax was like he made my blood boil. I thought Indiana was pretty much just like I want to talk and then gluffed it at that.

But yeah. And his like explanation about it is like, you know, separating like the dark jokes from like reality. He said, you can hate my dark jokes. Totally fine. But insinuating or whatever or have done anything so vile is damaging to real victims. Indiana will also talk to you as well if you'd like, but it needs to be a call. The whole damaging to real victims thing also just irks me because that's also like super like manipulative and like gaslighting and stuff like that because it's like,

she's not, once again, that's why I'm saying I'm not saying Indiana's a victim. If this is one in a thousand cases where she's like, I don't feel victimized, it was totally fine, perfect, whatever, whatever. Like, that's fine if she wants, if that's what she thinks and she stands by it. But it's also like, it's not demeaning to real victims because real victims of the situation happens because they think it's totally normal. Like myself, I'll put myself in the situation, might not actually happen with like a teacher multiple times. But it's like, when I was 13, I also thought like, oh, it was cool. Like, I thought the teacher was cute. I thought, oh my God, an older man paying attention to me. Like, I thought,

I thought everything was fine. There's like, and then I had, I have had three different teachers and there was some that I was like, you know, at the time, oh, that's kind of weird. They're touching me. But then there was some that I was like, I really enjoyed whatever time it was. And you think it's like completely normal, but obviously later on felt victim to it because like, I didn't understand that I wasn't normal. And then I was like, whatever.

again if indiana still like you know it's like that whatever the bottom line two things one is like obviously like him being i when i talked to zina i dm'd her and i talked to her because i commented like this is wild and she's like oh like thanks for commenting or whatever like no one's talking about this so then i just asked her like you know i'm going to probably talk about the podcast is there anything you want to convey and she's like really just like his aggressiveness towards her she goes i just wanted to come across like how aggressive he was towards me because it's like i literally didn't call him any of these things like i'm just pointing out facts that are like public information which that was got my eye a little

more is because I was like, okay, why are they going so hard and projecting like her saying, oh, you're presenting wrong information when she didn't? And she sent all of this stuff to me, like the comments he made before she turned 18 were obviously very flirty on her Instagram. There was like so many –

So many things that they clearly had a friendship. And he said it himself. He was like on her – she was about to have an 18th birthday. They were going to celebrate it with her. So you're clearly friends with this person before they're 18. But he acted like with her like they weren't. And I think for me, which we always talk about, is like being friends with people that are underage when you're of age. Like –

There's like no excuse for that. There's like no reason to be friends with this girl that's like underage. You know what I mean? Like it's like if she's in this abusive relationship, which they said she was, it's like, you know, you contact, you know, her mother, her parents, someone to do something about it. It's like you as the boy –

So then let's say, right, he saved her from this abusive relationship, right? But then they, he said, then I started to develop feelings for her. And I feel like that also is like a red flag because like you just don't allow yourself to develop feelings for someone you knew as a child who also you knew to be in an abusive situation. She just survived this abusive relationship at night. But you just like don't allow yourself to have those feelings. You know, I don't think that's like an excuse. Like these feelings just started developing because you just don't allow it, right? Like, you know, you have a...

What really crazed, I think it was number 141 of Dropouts, the deleted episode you sent me where he was like, he said to her, it's like they're like talking about their breakup. He's like, I felt like I was, like I wasn't dating you, I was raising you. And I was like,

That's the problem. That is like the problem all of this, right? It's like if you feel that type of way, if you feel like you're raising this girl, you have to like teach her things, help her, what is that? That's like the problem. And you knew her as a girl, as a child, and you're helping a child when like that's not really your place when like, you know, you have parents and you knew her mom, you know, all that stuff like that. So I think there's so many issues. The fact that they're

I'll say Zach's trying to defend it because, you know, again, I don't really want to, like, get into whatever, however she thinks. Zach's the adult. Zach's, what, 29 now? And so...

he's like he's very much adult like and the fact that he was so all the texts he exchanged with this girl was like so so manipulative it was so crazy even at the end when he's like i actually have some quotes on this too because it was actually like wild um says um the point is basically they go back and forth for a while then when xena basically like won't like just let up

about the fact that she was just pointing out, you know, the facts. He says, the point is, why do you try to find the negative in life? But I hope whatever is going on in your personal life, you heal from and become happy with yourself. Yeah, like...

that's so gaslighting manipulative, all of that. Like, it's very much like, I'll pray for you. Like, you're obviously hurting. It's like, you're looking for the negative. Like, there's no negative. She's like, this is weird, which it is. You're 29 years old. Like, I'm 36 years old. Like, it's weird. Anyone will tell you. We said it with, talked to you with James. She's 38, being friends with a 16-year-old. It's just weird. Like, I don't know. Like, if it goes beyond, like,

collaboration, like whatever. There's a video still up on Indiana's channel when she was 16 and it's like romantic questions and it's Zach and the other guy from Dropout. So it's like, it was weird. You guys, there was a flirty context to it, even if it wasn't like it's, I don't know. It's like this weird thing where like influencers can just do it. We talked about Dr. Disrespect on Patreon where it's just like,

I don't know why they think, one, I don't know why it is that they're drawn to like underage girls, like right underage girls, like teenage girls. And two, it's like you don't form a friendship with them. Like, I don't know. And again, it's not even like a straight boy with a straight girl. It's like Tati, a straight woman talking to a,

Colleen with Adam, you know, a straight woman with a gay boy. Like it just, it's just like inappropriate to have any sort of like level of that because I mean it could be debated or whatever, but it is a power imbalance in the sense, even if they're not famous or anything that someone's older and that's it. Like there's that power dynamic of that. Yeah. And to kind of like clean up the timeline. So in case anyone like doesn't know. So basically, um, Zach was hired by Indiana's mom cause Indiana, um,

was like a content creator when she was younger like starting at 14 she was on an awesomeness tv show uh so she had like a really young fan base obviously zach was hired by his mom by her mom um and then they lit zach also like as a part of the job he lived in the same like apartment um and then where it gets like weird is that like

He, in, like, his explanation to Xena and, like, the DM said that he just, like, worked for the mom briefly and that he didn't have much of a relationship. He didn't even have, like, a friendship with her until she was 18, which...

like is just like proven false just because like she was 17 when they started dropouts you don't start a podcast with someone you don't know and then also his like post um he posted a tiktok for her 18th birthday and there was like photos of their like friendship together and they're obviously very close i think there was one where he had like a photo of um

them as his wallpaper on his phone so like obviously they have like a deep connection already before she turned 18 and there's a video on her channel when they're 16 yeah so like regardless of like obviously they say it's just friendship like really anything romantic can happen till after they still have like a deep friendship before she turned 18 it should also be noted it doesn't also like absolve you just be like we waited till they were 18 like that doesn't mean it's just like okay like I mean Wilmer felt around while he was using XT a lot of people would be like we waited till they were 18 it's like

Okay, so you knew them before. Just because you're waiting. Okay, now it's fine. It's like obviously you had some sort of like... I don't know. You don't want to just meet someone when they turn 18. Especially because they were talking about spending her 18th birthday together. And then she ended up spending it with her ex-boyfriend. So I was like, you know, I don't know. To me, that's what I don't like is when people just try to, one, lie about it. Two, try to excuse the behavior. It's like... Yeah. And I think, too, it's also odd because at first they...

They had to know it was weird because for, uh, at the beginning when they were dating, um, and like didn't go public with it, obviously when she was 18, whatever, like they were perpetuating this idea that they were, um, siblings. So that also has a really weird element. Like I was like looking back at all the comments on like Zach's like birthday, tick tock. They're like, Oh, there's brother and sister, blah, blah, blah. And, um,

there's like fan edits of them like people were making like shipping them before they were like public and everyone's like this is so weird they're brother and sister but and then like it's so that is a weird element to it then there was other like screenshots where once they did become public that like nothing happened so she was 20 which is just like it's

proven false through like the different you know photos yeah everything they have it's just like you they have such a long thing of content so it's hard to like you know disprove the timeline of like a friendship to relationship and she said in that deleted episode now and

the Dropouts podcast is like she said she was scared to tell her family about it which I thought was like a red flag right there and then she would tell her family that he was like obsessive and she like wasn't into him but then in that same episode she was like but that wasn't true like it was just such a weird dynamic and also again as being the older person in this relationship like him like having her sit down and basically like take the blame for their entire relationship and

And even if she is like the worst person ever, as they described in that podcast, like, oh, she was so abusive to me. She was this, that, like, you know, emotionally abusive or verbally abusive or whatever. It's like, why would you still want her to like sit there and like relive all this and have to talk about it? Because they kept saying, we don't have to talk about what happened, the big one that you did with us or whatever. But basically like...

that she like cheated, like insinuated that. And so I'm just like making her like relive, she's like crying, she's breaking down. She's clearly, I think she called herself, she's like, she thought she was this broken girl because she had this abusive relationship. And just like posting that, like it just, it felt very like wrong on a lot of levels. Like obviously she's like triggered sitting next to me, she's crying, she's upset about it and stuff like that. And then posting it

And making her take all the blame. And basically just saying, like, you did this, you did this. And not saying anything. I was like, this seems a little sus. I don't know. The whole thing was weird. He definitely was, like, savior. Like, I saved her. I tried to do this. And I was scared. And what was the purpose of it? Like, who is it for? It sounds so personal. I think it was... Relationship between them. Why is everyone... She was very much like, Zach's a great person. They told me I could still continue the podcast. It was very much just, like, protecting him. I mean...

It's weird because like I said even if the case is that she just verbally abused him and she was just awful and stuff like that to make her sit down and do this like she's still young. Was she born in 2002? So she's I think she's going to turn 22 this year. She's 21. So when was that? Like a year ago or something. She's like a 20 year old girl. You're like a 28 year old man and you're like making her do all this stuff and like

I don't know. Imagine the person who didn't even know on TikTok how he was talking to her. You can only imagine how he's talking to this girl behind the scenes. That's what I'm saying. The way he was talking to her and being like, if you cared, you'd call. I knew it. You were just doing it for views. Like all that stuff. I'm like, you don't, first of all, don't even know this person. She owes absolutely nothing to you. And the way you're manipulating that, like right above it, he's like, I would never manipulate anyone. And then like the whole thing was just that. And just like praying for, like literally like, oh, hope like, yeah. He said, you find validation in hurting others. You'll heal in time, but it takes work. That's what he said to Zina. I was just like, who the,

Are you like it just yeah, hope whatever is going on in your personal life you heal and become happy like It's it's it's that to me was so oh I like made my blood boil and she had said that was like her main thing is like why? Why oh

It's also noted she said that her TikToks have been taken down. Like people have been reporting it and they're trying to suppress all this stuff like that. So she was like kind of scared because her TikTok was going to, I think had like a strike on it. So hopefully TikTok can like look into that. Because she goes, I literally said nothing that wasn't public. Like I showed the Instagram, like all the comments of him, like leaving flirty comments before she was 18. So she thought, you know, she's like, I just don't like that. It's being reported that I can't talk about this. So I think silencing people one is like my biggest pet peeve. Like I, that like,

It's so annoying, like, someone calling someone and being like, hey, we're cool, right? Or something like that. Like, I hate that. And then two, just...

I don't know, like also involving Indiana, I don't know, the whole thing, and then trying to be like, you know, this is damaging to real victims and stuff like that. It's just like, no, like you also are part of the problem, and this is how it happens. It's how people get victimized because they don't – like 13-year-olds, 14-year-olds don't think it's wrong to be friends with a 24-year-old. They think it's cool, and I thought it was cool. Everyone thinks it's cool. And maybe it didn't work out for them. Like I said, maybe if Indiana's like, you know, he's the best guy ever, okay, but it doesn't mean like –

usually in these cases there's a power imbalance and there's abusive power and a grooming thing and all that stuff like that. So, and like I said, I said it with the Tati and James thing. I do think there was this like, like him being 16 and looking up to her being like a 38 year old married and stuff like that. There was a power imbalance based on age. So,

a little bit in there like you know you can analyze it how you want but they you know they're like I guess their point is they get upset that people are analyzing this but like you guys put that out there like you did a whole sit down video being like you're the worst one in this relationship here's why Indiana sucks and she's verbally abusive like that was the whole thing and in my head it was totally the opposite when I watch it I'm like this girl is like so broken she's like crying she's so upset like you know and again I'm using her word broken like obviously I don't think she is and stuff like that and she was young and if she's an abusive relationship as a teenager that sucks like all that

like really traumatizing um so it just was like very odd i really hate this whole thing with like this tiktoker who like said has like 11 000 followers and zach who has this huge following just trying to like it's weird he did it all like privately with her too like why are you i don't know just the whole thing that barbara is trying to send effect you know he was like please don't talk about this and now everyone talks about it it's like yeah he's like i don't want this on the internet and stuff like that and i was just like

granted, like, again, it's like, what is the point of us, right? Like, it's like, it's, she, again, it's her, like, silencing this girl who's like, this is weird. I agreed. I was like, this is wild. This is weird. Like, is Zach Justice going to be canceled? Like, maybe not for this, but there's a lot of things maybe he, like, we talked about this all the time, that he definitely should. Like, you know, he talks about his dark jokes, but it's like, making PDF jokes about Tara and,

and the racist jokes he's made that people themselves will say, I'm not comfortable with it. He'll use it as excuse. He's like, oh, she would laugh at it or whatever. And when that person's like, no, it's not, then it just becomes racist. It's no longer a joke. It's really just racist. And when there's no apology for it, then it just feels like you're a

And you know what I mean? So obviously not everyone loves your dark jokes. I'm bringing up the, I won't say the joke, but the one with the finita who's like, I don't like this joke. So where's the apology? You can't just say people appreciate it. She didn't. And there was no apology. And then it just becomes racist. It becomes the PDF jokes about Tara, like becomes like a little too like real. There was one where like a 13 year old is on there or a young person in the podcast. He's like, she's 13 and she's like a normal weekend for who's the co-host named, you know, Steven maybe. Yeah.

He's like, it's a normal weekend for Steven. I thought it was Jared. Jared, maybe. Okay, yeah. And so it's just like, it's really not jokes. And I feel like it's 2024 where you're not Howard Stern. You're not being edgy. You're not helping people through their trauma by saying Tara is like a PDF's dream. You know what I mean? Like, that's, I don't know. And it's also why, then why, the whole thing is very off-putting. And he's off-putting. And like, again, gets away with so much for what? Like, it's not because you're a comedian. Like, it's just, they're just...

Because the stuff you're saying isn't, like, in joke format either. It's just – it's gross and weird. And, again, not to be, like, what – okay, well, obviously, Indiana's fine with it. But I guess it's just a perfect example of, like, this is weird behavior. Like, it's just weird. We see it with the gamers, with people at VidCon, all these young girls who, like, who idolize these people. So it's just another thing where I'll just keep talking about it because it's, like, these young girls idolize it. And then later on you see them upset because they felt used or they felt like they were maybe –

manipulated into something they didn't want to do or something like that because they're young and they like look up to these people. Even Jojo with Colleen she feels nothing was wrong about it because she was the one that was

That's what groomed is. It's not necessarily sexual, but it's shaping the way they think about something. Yeah. It seems like he has a lot to say and analyze people. It must have fed her throughout the years so much about herself and him. Well, it's a perfect example of JoJo because nothing's wrong with that. And then when I think it was Howie or someone's like, well, would you be friends with a 13-year-old fan? She's like, no. Yeah, because it's weird. Everything about it is just a weird dynamic. You just shouldn't be, no matter how mature someone is,

And just because you're like magically wait till they're 18. Like, oh, we didn't get together until we were 18. It's like, yeah, but you knew them. And that's all Zina was saying too. It's like, it's just weird. Like you just knew this person when they were a child. You could have babysat them legally, I guess. If you're talking about you don't want to go to prison. Okay, yeah. But also when just because they turned 18 that day doesn't like absolve you of being a perv, like a creeper. Like when you're that old and you're with this like...

Like as Zach said in one interview, a freshly turned 18, like he's like, she was a fresh 18. And I remember, what was that podcast? Someone was interviewing him. He's like, why did you say it like that? Sit and chat. Sit and chat? Yeah. What is that one? It's hosted by the guy. He used to be on Good Luck Charlie on the Disney channel. That's all I know. Because he even said, he's like, why did you say freshly 18? Like that was.

And again, those verbiage, those kind of things are a little like alarming and a little like red flag-ish right there. And I think the bottom line is if you feel like you're raising the person you're dating, like you just should not be dating them. That's it.

And I don't know, like I said, no one's talking about this, so probably no one will care. And he's liked and he's like a good looking kid. So he's not even a kid. He's 29, which is also crazy because he does seem, he acts young in these TikToks with her. So I do kind of think of him as like maybe like a tan age, like a 26, but I'm like, oh no, he's like 29, which is again, a big difference. 26, 29 is a big difference. Like you're almost a 30 year old man. Like it's a pretty big difference. And then that from 21, 29, 21 is like actually crazy, especially when he knew her when she was 14. Lived with her on that. Anyways, best of luck. Bye.

I found Indiana through this. I think she's like, you know, she seems like she has to do a big thing. She seems like she's an actress and she's like an influencer and she seems healthy. You know, she seems good. Yeah. I think she's dating someone like her age now as well. So that's perfect. And that's great. We love that. It's just, you know, that's it. Right? Happy four. I'm sure this episode was so fun. Everyone's like, thank you for this. I was already not doing anything for the Fourth of July and feeling miserable and now I'm watching this and feeling worse. So...

What fun topic? Did we have any fun topics? We had none. Young Sheldon was spoiled. Politics. James Charles problematic. Everything was just sad. Talk to a girl. She was the shining light today. She's getting... That's the most American. Yeah, so we'll try and have some fun. It was crazy. Wow, yeah.

Well, we'll have some fun news for you on. Next week. Next week. Thanks guys for tuning in. Thank you SeatGeek for sponsoring and we'll see you in the next one. We never did our star-swinged banner. Did we want to sing it or does it matter if they say this long after the producer credits? We'll see. We'll see. Are we all singing? I want you to really take it. But we'll get into it. I think we should do a little roundabout where we each do a line. Oh, say...

He's looking up the words. By the dawns. I mean, you could finish a line if you want. That was good though. What's up around Lee Wee? Edit Twilight. No. Yeah, that was right. It's like a question. Edit Twilight's last gleaming. Who brought stripes?

I'm getting all the hard ones. Or the rampants we watched. We're so gallantly. Oh, wait. Sorry. We're so gallantly. Yeah. Steaming. What? These are the words? What did you say? It says we're so gallantly. Yeah. Steaming.

Do I have the right words? I thought it was streaming. I thought it was gleaming. Oh, wait. Maybe you're right. And the rockets red glare. Let's do harmony. The bombs bursting in air. Gave proof through the night. The flag was still there.

Play ball. That was good! I think we nailed it. Okay. So many words I've never... What's O-E-R? Or. What is that? Maybe it's a conjunction.

I don't know. That's it. It's going at the beginning and the end. - I think the head bend.