What Happened to Jenna Marbles? + Trisha Befriends MrBeast & Reaches Out to Tati...
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Hello, mesdames, messieurs, and good evening. It's welcome and bienvenue. Welcome. It's just Trish. Wow, what a morning. What a morning. Aside from the fact that we're skinny and you can't even see us disappearing.

And I have been skinny this weekend. Usually we do a pizza and pasta cheat day, but I just went straight through with the grapefruit. And I was like, we're going to order pizza tonight. I'm like, I'm having grapefruit. And then I get agitated because I'm like, I'm. And then I had one piece of corn on cob for dinner on Saturday night. So I feel like I've been. Wow. Just skinny. But I do eat a regular meal throughout the day just so people don't think I'm like starving myself. Because I'm sure that's what everyone was scared of. Anyways, I don't know why we started off like that. But you guys, we have merch today. We're all wearing merch. We look like a. Now we look like a.

Yes. Just Trish crew. Well, speaking of crew. Speaking of crew. Oh, wow. That's the back of my shirt. Can they see it or is it out of focus? They can see it. You can get these shirts on justtrish.com. So it's been a year. I know you guys might be like, okay, Trisha here. It's been a year in the making, but we also have a really dope hoodie. It's just that's coming over on a boat. We got these on a plane to get them faster. It's a whole thing. We look for manufacturers in China. Oh, we have hang tags. We make this like, it looks like we have like a clothing line. Yeah.

Like, it's not just merch. It's like a clothing line. It's, yeah. Hopefully it's more cost effective than my sad boy stuff we're trying. You know what I mean? We've had a manufacturer. We've had a designer. They're shipping them over boats. And I don't think they're in China. Not that it matters if it's from China. I think it's from India. Or maybe these are China. One's China. One's India. None of it matters, right? I don't know. It's ethically sourced. I can say that. I know that. Okay. Okay.

But we tried to make them more affordable. These are the gesture shirts. We have them in black and pink. Hmm? What? The details. Oh, yeah. There's a little crystal, a little sparkle, a little hologram. Yeah, I love oversized shirts. I love them so much. I always get them off free people and I'm always like swimming in my shirts. Actually,

Actually, I think they're inspired by girls who look like they're swimming in shirts, but they're so tiny. But these are also for the big ones out there who we don't look like we're swimming in shirts. I'm wearing a 2XL. Moses had his size down. He's an XL. He's wearing a large. You're wearing medium. So they are very oversized. But if you want to wear them and feel like a tiny person, and you're a bigger person, they're made for that too. So I'm a bigger person. I'm wearing a 2XL. It looks like I'm swimming in this shirt. Like, just so tiny. It's perfect for the summer. You know what I mean? Like, it's hot. You want to just have, like, a loose t-shirt on. Yes.

teeny weeny. Yeah. Throw it on after the pool. Just you know. That's why we literally you

you know, rented an airplane to bring them over because we had to make sure they're here for the summer. Oh, for the summer. Right, okay. Because the hoodies for the winter, they're on the yacht. They're coming. They're not on a, well, they're on a boat. That's why I was so concerned about the, It's the just Trish yacht. Oh, the just Trish yacht. Okay, well, we're not quite there yet. We're trying to sell these t-shirts, which by the way, are like all done in our house. We, maybe we should show B-roll. We should take video of that. We have like just tubs in our house because we're shipping them because we learned, we learned a valuable lesson. I don't think anyone cares, but I need to talk about this. The time of our wedding,

We lost like literally all our money because not only were we doing the wedding and the honeymoon, which obviously like we were extravagant with it, whatever. Um, but.

But also, yeah, we had the merch. We were doing Sad Boy merch, and it was here in L.A., and we ended up, like, spending, like, literally for a sweatshirt, we paid, like, $80 per sweatshirt, so we had to sell them for, like, $90, which, like, who's paying $90 for a sweatshirt? And it was still nice, and it was whatever, but anyway, side of the point. So this time we wanted to make it a little smart. We got lesser quantities. Oh, we also ordered a ton of quantities during Sad Boy, which also was getting canceled at the time. It was just the worst. Anyway, doesn't matter. We still have Sad Boy available on our Poshmark. We have lots of Sad Boy available on our Poshmark.

But the dress church, we were like, okay, let's be smarter. So we just got, again, a few hundred of these. They'll probably sell out, but that's not a flex because, not that a few hundred is little. Yeah.

But it's like we just wanted to be smart. We're also like literally my mom is like packaging them and shipping them herself So it's like we had a warehouse before which gave you warehouse fees and like all this crazy So it's very mom-and-pop so we figured it out We have dope hoodies not to say like don't buy these but like you know once these are gone They're probably gone because we're gonna do the hoodies and then those are really really dope and we put a lot into them They look really cool

These were just to test out, you know, the manufacturer, the thing. And I like them. I think they're cute. They're, you know, they're T-shirts, but... But they feel good. They're soft. You like them, okay. They're big, they're comfy. Yeah. Like, they're very breezy. It really is a perfect summer tee. Oh, yay. You know, that's part of my spectrum is my sensitivity to fabrics, the color, like everything. I usually cut...

I was part of the process. Like it's not gonna hurt your neck. It's gonna be so soft. Yeah. Besides like everything about it. Like I can actually wear this shirt. You were actually like the deciding factor for it. Because I knew I wanted soft, but everything feels the same to me. So Moses was like, this is softer this and then the collar, which I like this too because when I glam and stuff, I was supposed to have a full glam for you guys today to really sell and make these look like glamorous shirts. But you're getting relatable, Trish, today.

I was like, I'm like, oh man, I gotta fire my hairstylist. He didn't show up and then I just realized like he literally just sent me like the receipts of like, I said I wasn't available with a big red X. He does green checks, green checks and then a big red X on this day and I was like, I'm so sorry. You can't argue with the receipt. James Carl's No More Lies. Oh my God. Yes. Yes.

Which, by the way, go to our Patreon.com slash Jess Trish. We reviewed our final Dramageddon videos, the Shane meltdown. On Instagram Live, yes. Yeah. I think it's more of a freakout. He didn't really have a meltdown. Yeah. Tati was a little bit of a meltdown. Yeah. Yeah. And then your iconic Tati dumb as hell. Oh, yeah.

Um, response that you just randomly decided to clock in and like weigh in. That's the best part. No one named off you. No one wanted Trisha Paytas' opinion, but you clocked in. You said, hold on, let me, let me react. Nobody asked for it, including Shane, right? She was saying Shane was there. Shane definitely was not like, you should make a video. Um,

I don't know. I just, I wanted to prove my loyalty. I was like, watch me. Watch me do, I don't know. I don't know. Actually, I looked crazy. I had like crazy like meth scars and stuff. Like it was wild. Like watching that back house and I'm like, that's actually scary. Like no wonder Moses was scared of me during that time because he would, that was the time when he was ignoring me and blocking. Well, he didn't block me. He just watched all my phone calls come in. I called you. I know it's not funny. People are like, it's not funny. But it's kind of funny. I guess hindsight to call you 117 times and he's just watching it. I was like,

wouldn't you turn off your phone or like how are you even on your phone if I'm calling that much and it's before like that was back in the day before you could swipe right and get rid of it like so you literally just had to like wait for it to go away right the thing is also like I'm working like I get phone calls for work thanks for work you know what I mean I can't just turn off my phone were you working though this was quarantine no I was working so what were you doing yeah how were you doing your phone then

I was just in between your call and seeing what comes in and trying to find another mistake. That was crazy. Well, anyways. He was watching me though during that time because he would tell me like, oh, I saw you wore a necklace with my name. I was like, so you were watching. You were watching what I was doing but just ignoring me. That's usually the case though, isn't it? It's like even if they're ignoring you, they're still like watching you. No, it's not like, I mean, I still liked you. I was just... Not answering my calls for a month. Yeah.

Needed a little space. Yeah, which set me into the hard, not saying it's your fault, but then I was like, I might as well just do hardcore OF because he's not talking to me, so what's it matter? And then you came back around when I was making all the money. Not when I was making all the money, but when I was doing those hardcore ones. And then I was like, well, I'm finally making money doing this. And then he's like, well, I don't think we should date. And I'm like, okay, I'll stop doing this. And I don't know. This got off to a weird start. It all sounds... It sounds... This has been a rough morning. I don't even know if you... You don't have to share the...

Extend to your morning unless you want to, but Oscar put it in perspective. I was so upset about my hair, and then you texted, and you're like, I'm literally... I don't know if you want it. You don't have to share all of it. My boyfriend just cut his hand this morning on a piece of glass, so I had to clock in to my Hunger Games Katniss. In my head, it was Katniss Pita. You know, Pita in the cave with the leg...

It wasn't that extreme, but in my head I was like – That's what you were. Yes. I was like, okay, let me make a tourniquet. I'm going to cut off the bleeding. It was a lot. Well, you said you tightened it and made it stop. Yeah, it was very much tourniquet tease. I wrapped it up, and then all we had was Pokemon Band-Aids, though, which kind of made it a little unserious because then it's just like gauze Pokemon Band-Aids. You did it with Band-Aids? Because it was like near the wrist. Yeah, it was on his wrist. Which I'm like, go to the emergency room if you got – because it was plain.

it was plants. I was like, just want to make sure everything's okay. It was plants, right? It was like a plant vase that cut him. Yeah, he was trying to water his plants. It sounds doctor. It sounds like we're like making it out like, oh, it was the plants, but I just want to make sure it was okay. Yeah, he's okay. It was just, um, it took, so I was already running a little behind and then that happened. I was like, whoo,

Let me do a little first aid. I don't know. But I was impressed with myself. I was like, okay, like, I need to cut off the bleeding. Like, I was giving, like, kind of scientist vibes. Yeah, that was good. Like, doctor. That you thought of that. Like, was it because of the hunger? So you thought to cut off the bleeding? Yes, I was like, cut off the bleeding. Like, got to tie it up. And then I just stuck it together with Band-Aids. We disinfected it, all of that stuff. Wow. Yeah. It was very much Katniss. It's also very Bridgerton, Penelope and Colin. Yeah.

I love that when he's like looking at her and that's when he falls in love with her. Maybe he fell in love with you in that moment. He looked at you and was like, wow, this is the moment. It is like our anniversary today. Oh. We kind of have two. We have one where we started talking and this is when we, four years ago today is when we made it official. And it's very Trish coded because our meal when we made it official was Domino's. So every day on the 24th, we have Domino's for dinner. No way.

Are you going to have Domino's tonight? Yeah. Ooh, I'm so jealous. We were supposed to have it. Domino's messed up our weekend, too. We were supposed to have it Saturday. Saturday's our pizza night, and Moses knows this, but he went and got steaks and corn like a couple days prior, and I kind of felt bad because I was eating my grapefruit and eggs. I was like, okay, let's do that Saturday. So then Saturday comes around. I'm like, okay, we'll have steak and corn. He's like, well, I'll just make chicken for me. I'm like, but I don't even like steak. I eat steak to be nice with you because you got steak for me. So I was like, well, let's have steak and corn. I like steak at Mastro's, but

And then I was like, I don't even want this date because I don't want to eat by myself. So then he made the chicken and what did I have? Oh, I had one piece of corn on the cob. And then I was like, well, this was supposed to be our Domino's Day. And he's like, and then I think he felt bad. He's like, well, I didn't know. And I was like, well, Saturday is our Domino's Day, but that's fine. And then Sunday, he's like, we're going to order Domino's Day. I'm like, no, we're not because I have grapefruit in my mind for our photo shoot tomorrow.

And it just messed up. And he really was trying to push it because he knows I want the dominoes. But then I was like, no, I'm tanning, which means I smell myself. And I don't smell good. So I don't want to eat pizza when I'm smelling bad plus tan on my hands. And I'm like, I want to do that when I'm comfy cozy. So it just messed up our weekend too. It was – again, putting it in perspective, when you're like – literally, I was like when you're texting about your boyfriend, I was just like, oh, man, I feel like a crap person because I literally was so – like my hair is not good today. It's not glamorous. You guys know the bob cut story I told you about. So I have like this bob happening. Like it just –

Anyways, there's way more serious things. But I think if you do cut your hand on accident, you should go to an emergency room. I still think your boyfriend should because he might get lightheaded and he's by himself or something. Have your phone on. Well, yeah. My dad is home and on standby in case he has to go to urgent care. Yeah. But I think –

I believe he's going to be okay. It wasn't that. It was like a long cut, but it wasn't like a deep, you know, PETA losing the leg kind of vibe. Why do I remember PETA losing his leg? Because in the movie, he didn't lose his leg, but in the book, he did. Wow. You're one of those people. The book actually, but I'm with you too. Yeah, you and Bridgerton. Yeah, I did read that one Bridgerton book. Kind of. I kind of skimmed through it, but I did read a lot of it.

And they do call her ugly in the books. Just because I was like, I know early on before I knew the actors and anything, I remember I'm saying, oh, this character's like really ugly. And then obviously see the actress in pretty. But I'm like, they actually, I like read in the books again. And like, they actually call her ugly numerous times. So anyways, not that it matters because she's beautiful. I think that's like, anyway, it's a whole debate.

- Maybe I'll do a whole main channel video about Bridgerton because we ordered Bridgerton sheets, what happened to my hair? - No, this side. - You want me to show the just Trish? - No, no. - Oh, is it crazy? - Oh, I see. You have one strand that's sticking out. - Oh my gosh, okay. - It's like the sun, you know the sun sometimes has those flares. - Right. Did I get it or am I just like doing nothing? - I think so, yeah. - You have a little bit, it's like towards the, yeah, right there, right there, right there. Perfect. - Thank you everybody, okay.

We love it. Jimmy, keep that in. I also met Jimmy, our editor, last week. Oh, yeah. You met Jimmy. He was so... Not how I expected, but in the best way. He was just so cute. And he was... You guys don't know each other, right? You're not friends? We're, like, online friends. Online friends. Yeah. But you guys gave me nothing to look like each other, but, like, same vibe. Like, he wore his short shorts. Yes. He is very, like... He's just my kind of gay. I don't know how else to explain it. I don't know either. He's just, like, another, like, chronically online, like...

fun, little nerdy gay. I don't know. But cute. But cute, yes. Cute and like just sweet and just like, yeah, my type too. Right. It's not like, you don't look at him like, oh, that person's too much or whatever. And then you also don't look at him and be like, are you even gay? Like it was just like this nice balance, you know, and I loved it and he was so nice. And even when I left, he just texted me. He's like, oh, I love meeting you. You look great in person. I was like, great in person. It was really, really cute. I wish I could have talked. He lives in a, well, I won't say. He's a little bigger. But we want to, he's kind of whatever. Everyone, go say hi. Yeah.

You can see through the editing how sweet he is. Yeah. He is. I see it in the editing always. You do what? Oh, his. Oh. His character. Yes. It comes so with it. Oh, I think when you see his house in his editing, you see his character in the editing. Yeah. His. It is great. I've never usually watched him back, but when I see clips and then I see the edit, I was like, wow, he really. I know, he snaps. So good. Yeah. Like, I loved it when he put like little, like Timothee Chalamet, he like put like a little like rat actually for him or something like that. Was that it or something? Then Hassani made the giant. It was cute. Yeah.

He's very good anyways. You're very good too, but you're just too busy. But I just, we love him. No, I love Jimmy's editing. He's so funny. And he brings like a different perspective, I think too. Like because it's different when you like look at it fresh, you know? Yeah. And he's just like, he gets all the references. Jimmy's just like art, literally just art kind of yay. He's a just Trish thing. So like perfect, like actually perfect. Like I was actually so stressed when you like weren't able to edit. I was just like, we'll never find anybody. Like, well, like I just know, like I'm just never happy. And then I was like, this is actually like the most perfect thing.

It was so weird. It was very serendipitous. Yeah. He just moved and he was like 15 minutes away from me. Yeah. And it was just like, yeah, it was the perfect. And he's close to us too. Like I was on my way to cancel so I dropped it off. But even like, yeah, it was just nice. Yeah, we're all kind of close to each other. Yeah. Anyways. Super cute. Yeah. Go to Just Trish. Patreon.com slash Just Trish. Yeah. Did we mention that the shirts are available right now? Just Trish.com. Oh, they're available right now. Like right now. They'll probably sell out by the time the show is over. Yeah. And that's not.

again we ordered a little quantity and we're just saying that because like the cups are low quantity and these were like our testers i love them not to say we can't restock them but um these were like our testers and plus there's like other designs i'm thinking of so once they're gone they're pretty much gone so i don't know is that urgent to if you want to get them get them i think it's cute i love merch like i was just thinking about that when i went on cancel they always wear huge t-shirts like uh tana had like an i heart you should pay to shirt and i was like oh man like if cancel had merch like i would wear cancel you know what i mean i would wear do they have

much they have merch I guess on tour yeah I don't know if they sold it online but I did see Tana tweet like a couple weeks ago that she's getting they're getting ready to do like a merch drop and tweet them like inspo oh not through that I love that that's everything no yeah that's cute she's a princess of the people whatever the people want no she's actually so smart Tana's the smartest person I think it's actually her birthday today I should text her so happy birthday but by the time you see this it'll be belated birthday but she is the 24th because Melbourne

Malibu is also a month today. Oh my god, the 24th. Your anniversary. Happy birthday to Elvis. Did I say Malibu? Elvis is a month today. And Tana is a year older. I think she's 26. It's 26, I think. A lot of people are 26. Chapel Rowan's 26. Everyone's 26. I love that you are deep into the chapel. I'm in the Chapel Rowan. I don't know. Well, I have a couple cosplays coming up. But I wanted to go. Yeah, anyways.

I love her. I love the Tiny Desk. That's the one I started with, the Tiny Desk concert. I really like her. Is she coming on? I have to follow up with them. I mean, we're still going to try. Harry's coming soon. Harry knows her team. Harry who? Harry Daniels. Oh, my God. That's my Harry style. You know. What? I really didn't have to specify. Harry. And then I think Harry Jowsey because we've been watching the perfect match and I was just like, okay, is it him? Yeah.

Harry Daniels, who we love. Okay. Yes. I need to actually write that down because you did. I asked you and okay, I forgot. Shoot. Maybe I should write it down now or will you remind me? I can remind you later. Okay. Okay. Remind me because I like actually forgot to write that down. Damn. Okay. Okay.

Again, this is why it's so funny. In the Patreon video, we talked about how like people were commenting like, Trisha, pretend she doesn't know. Drama, get it. And like, and meanwhile, you had this reaction. No, not on the Patreon. Yes. It was like when like Adam reacted to it, like a lot of the comments were like that. But you can't even remember. It's like right down. No, I have to because it's like today with the hair. Like, like seriously, I do think my memory is like going a little bit. It's actually kind of scary because I was just like, I,

always write down my glams and I was just like that is so weird like I've never not especially for a photo shoot day I was like this is so odd and then I literally forgot so I'm gonna write that down because I will actually forget yeah yeah again welcome to our team meeting oh yeah we do it online yeah there's nothing else that happens behind the scenes I know I know oh my gosh okay the team meeting this is the only time we see each other all of us

Um, yeah. We filmed last time on a Sunday, so I feel like filming that on a Sunday, we missed, like, I didn't get to talk about the Tony Awards, which I know you, like, don't watch. Oh, yeah. But I live. Have you seen Eddie Redmayne on your For You page? I have seen his. What was he doing again? His cabaret. Cabaret. Yes. Oh, this is what he supported for my intro. Oh, no. Jimmy, edit my intro. This is what it was. I knew I had an idea. Okay. It was the film. I was wondering where the cups were.

Anyways, put it wherever. It's not that good. Are we doing that too? Yeah, you got it. Okay, but I sent you the lyrics. So I'll do mine first. Do you know this TikTok or no? I've seen it. Yeah. So you know how to reenact it? No, I don't know how to reenact it. I've seen it. Should I show you guys the TikTok? Because I want you guys to read. Okay, so maybe we should watch it. He's a puppet. He's like, Wilco.

and bienvenue. Welcome. He's like... Oh, that's why you were singing it in the beginning. I didn't really know what was going on at the beginning. But I just don't question it. It's the welcome song to Cat Brae, the opening of the MC, the Fremde Entrage Estrella. Good.

Happy to see you. Life's the rest of stay. You're good at it. Thank you. So I want all of us to do it. I love it. Do you know who played the original MC? No.

Is this someone iconic? Yeah. Do you know? Of course. Oh, yeah. Because he watches it with me. Ellen. Coming. Do you not want to say his last name? Why didn't you say his last name? You just said Ellen. I let you finish the sentence. We finish each other's sentences. Was he good at it, though? Like, I saw, like, mixed. Like, some people were saying it was cringe, but some people were saying, no, like, this is, like, spot on. Well, I mean, look.

That looks good. Theater people are just kind of bougie, right? They're like, you guys don't know the meaning. He's a puppet. Because Cabaret is about, it's a certain time period in Germany when there was bad people. And they're like trying to get them to join. You know what I mean? Like it's kind of like, so he's kind of like the puppeteer that gets them to join. Whereas Alan Cumming as the original emcee at the end, spoiler alert, his reveal was he was in the striped pajamas, which is like the concentration camp. So he was like one of the Jewish gay ball.

all of it, you know? But this one, supposedly, he's like, he's trying to get you to join the bad guys. So he's like a little puppeteer or something, which I don't know. You know, when I first thought I was like cringe, but now I kind of, I'm trying to get artsy. Can I ask you, you want to go first? You don't have to do the whole thing if you don't want, but you can. I love the whole thing. Oh, we're doing a solo. I thought we were all doing it all together. Yeah, I thought it was like a...

Does anyone even care this much? Maybe it's just my For You page and no one else cares. It's like a music video. You're singing and Jimmy's cutting between all of us. Oh, we can. Okay, but you'll have to sing if you want to do it that way. It's hard to both sing and dance. But sing the lines too, okay? Yes. All right, ready? Welcome. Bienvenue. Welcome. Fremda. Estranger. Estranger.

Happy to see you. Okay. Okay. I don't know. I thought it was a fun little game we can all play. I had fun anyways. Okay.

We look like we're at a party, like a birthday party or something. It's just more if I knew the lyrics, then I could really focus on the dance. Babe, you're such a language expert. I thought you'd easily be able to pick up the language. German. Anyways, it's all over my For You page. Here's at the Tony Awards. I don't even know if you want it. Period. Period. Tony Awards, they just give them to celebrities like Daniel Radcliffe. Like, I mean, not to say Daniel Radcliffe's not a winner, but Jonathan Groff. Like, I just think it's like mainstream celebrities that win. Again, I think they're iconic. I love Jonathan Groff. I love, love, love, love him. But...

Right? Don't they seem like they're just gifted? Did you follow Tony Awards for work? I saw Jonathan Groff won and people were excited because now he's like another Glee actor who has a Tony Award. Who's the other one? Matthew Morrison? Oh my God, who was the other one? Oh my God, I forgot her name.

From Glee? Yes. Oh, like a student on like Christian Shannon Worthy like guest starred on it. Yeah, Alex Newell won for Shocked I think last year. Yeah, June 2023. Oh, she was on the Glee Project, right? For Oklahoma. Did she win for? Yeah. Yeah. But she was on the Glee Project and then she got onto Glee. Oh, I don't know. For like two seasons. I don't know. But like it was the end season. It's like four. Okay. Yeah. I kind of like lost on that. Yeah, but I love her. I actually saw her in Oklahoma. It was like this roundabout. It was really good. She was really good. I forgot.

I forgot. I forgot she was on Glee, I guess. Yeah, because she has like a such a career like post Glee. Yeah. Just kind of like everything. Someone else won, though. I forget who. But not none for Rachel Zegler. I mean, not Rachel Zegler. Rachel. Rachel Berry. I was like, wait, was she on Glee, too? And she was like, what? What an intro. I know. What an intro. Anyways, get your merch at justtrish.com and patreon.com slash justtrish. I will show. Do you want to show the notebook?

We're going to hit our 100th episode in July, plus our one-year anniversary. So our producers are going to get this notebook. We're also going to try to figure out a giveaway. Yeah, look how gorge. That's just, I designed it. Looks a little chaotic, actually, now that I'm looking at it. But it's a little iconic. The rainbow, this sticker took forever to get.

To get it formatted like that. Shout out Lou Izzle for helping. It's our pride. Our pride is coming to an end just for the month. Not in our hearts. It lives on forever. And then our pride Birkin. I have to sell enough of these headshots to pay for that Birkin. I'm still on payment plans for it. I'm not. But no. If you guys want the headshot,

You know, there it is. Patreon.com slash estrish. You can also see all the Dramageddon series. You can watch the back episodes. We're going to film more Patreon this week. So go check that out. Everyone's eating those saucy nuggets including Steph Pappas. So we gotta

We gotta try it. Yeah, we gotta jump on the saucy nugget bandwagon. I've been wanting them so bad, but I've been holding out for the art of it all. Like, I've been sacrificing. Oh, like the first impression? Yes. Okay, yeah, same. But Pride, I guess we have one more Pride special with Jeff on this week. Okay, right, right. The theme is... Gay. What are you thinking? Okay.

if it's like, I mean, I am a queer, but like Jeff, like, do you know what I mean? No ally, ally tease. He also like earned the ally shit. But is it like appropriation to be like dressed gay? Cause he gave me the mood board and I was kind of like, that seems a little stereotypical gay. No, Jeff Wittek. Um, I think it's fierce. I mean like look at Harry Styles. Harry Styles is always a little queer, you know, so he is a little queer. He's never identified as such. So, right. Okay. So, um,

And Jeff has said he's like, I think, 20% gay or something. He better actually be if he's saying he's 20% because I would be so mad if he's like, no, it's just fun. You know what I mean? Like, I'm a little, I love, I can't say I love, I just, you know, I don't know. He brought Tana and Tana's in Cancun so I'm like,

And she was down to come. She's like, I'll come. And I'm like, oh, man. It's like literally next week. But we rescheduled Jeff. This sounds like a little maybe a recipe for disaster. Because he's just, he has a little too straight code for me. He's coming on. I love it. Great. But it's like. I'm going to come to make sure it's balanced out. Gay to straight ratio. You know? And. I just want to make sure. Because he also brings straight people with him. And we're doing a gay episode. And I'm like. It's. He's ready to be fully like, you know, an ally for pride. So. Okay.

And he was very eager. He's the one that propositioned. He was like, Kim and I come like dressed up as something. And I was like, gay, sure. So he's going to wear. Yeah, make sure we know it's your idea. Because I'm like, I don't know. People are going to think, why did she make this guy dress up as gay? No, I told him if he's not gay at the front gate, they'll be turned around. Oh my God, Oscar. Okay. So I said, he's going to wear like a little crop top. I said, low rise jeans, jock strap. Isn't it a little stereotyping, the gays? I'm allowed to do it. Okay. That's what I'm saying. Oscar's dressing at me.

Anything pride queer gay we love all of it. Oh, no, this could be just chaotic but We're the new gay barbershop like people go to him usually They usually go to him to get haircuts. He styles people usually right? Okay, so what's his time? We're styling him. Oh, they have to be gay to come here Yeah, that does have some sort of gayness in them. Uh-huh And he said he's 20% as long as he is we should actually have that as a requirement I mean we can't get sued or fired

And we're like, we only prefer... Anyways, I think so. It's just a preference. Yeah. We just like everyone a little queer. On our, you know, questionnaire, we'll have a rainbow and people put a percent of how far... How queer they are. Yeah, in the rainbow. I don't know if I can ask people that, but... We'll figure it out. We'll give them Just Your Shirts. We actually can't give anyone Just Your Shirts because we have limited quantities of these. I was just thinking about that. I was like, we should pull some from... And I was like, we have literally none, but... Anyways. JustYourShirt.com to get the shirts. Yeah, just coming up. Oh!

I'm telling you. This sounds so superficial because I know there's so many more serious things. But it's like literally if I don't feel pretty, I literally feel like my whole day is just ruined. It's so weird. And I mean that in the sense of I can be so ugly, but I'm planning to be ugly that day. As opposed to if I'm planning to be gorge and glam and I'm not, it throws off my whole day. But I don't want to sound like a Kardashian over here where I just think beauty is everything. You know what I mean?

Because I'm telling you this week's Kardashians really irritated me and I love the Kardashians and you guys know and I want to battle for skims and it'll never happen because I'm sure they'll have all these clips of me talking and like whatever. But it

sad obviously the kylie thing everyone's mad about that kylie was like oh my god like people call me ugly and it's everyone's like okay but you set these beauty standards which is very true i love that point but also camping like i have 10 years left in me of looking good and then i'm done i'm retiring i just like you don't like stop looking good after like my mom's like 65 and she looks so good and i feel like there's like a whole list of people that look amazing and so it just made me sad that like everyone thinks you have an expiration date which i always thought too i always thought like oh man once i hit 30 like

I literally did not think I would live past 30 and I almost like was trying to manifest that for myself for so long. Like I'm not gonna live past 30. I would tell everybody like I didn't want to. I wanted to be like glamorous when I was, you know, dead or whatever. And, and I literally was cause of that. Cause I thought no guy would want me. Nobody would want to marry me. Nobody wants a 30 year old. Like it was so crazy. So like to hear this now about Kim talking about being in the fifties, like,

It actually made me so sad. And then I started spiraling and I started crying. And I was just like, God, our world is kind of effed up, actually, if you think about it. The reason everyone wants to be so skinny now is because the Kardashians are skinny. Because the reason everyone wanted to be curvy was the Kardashians were curvy at the beginning. Everyone's like, oh, we need a butt. We need this. And it was inspiring. And now it's like, we all need to be skinny. And this whole world is just effed. You know what I mean? It's just really, really sad. And as much as I'd love to be skinny, it's just like, I don't think that's the end-all, be-all goal. You know what I mean? And it's like...

sad yeah that's why in the one episode i have kylie crying over people like commenting on how she looks and then like the next scene is kim saying that i only have 10 years of being pretty is like actually insane and it really was like the next scene you know crazy like the whiplash is wild so you don't want people judging you for your looks but then also like your whole family is like when you're you can retire when you're ugly like when you're 50 and nobody like that's

So wild. And then like Gaffer kind of will be like, people just dehumanize us. And I was just like, no one's dehumanizing. You guys are the one who said this and continue to say this. Like I saw, I can't remember who said it on TikTok, when everyone was doing the Kylie Jenner lip challenge. Lip challenge, yeah. And they were like literally putting their lips in glass and like cutting their lips and stuff with it. And it's like to look like her. And for so long, I think she said she had lip injection. But for so long, they like denied. I think they still deny a lot of it. I think they deny. Chloe said she does like one nose job, which it's like.

I mean, you know, like there's just more. There's just more. And not to say it's a whole thing, but yeah, people aren't defending you because like it's just – there's just changes and you can see it. And it's like – I don't know. It just sucks when people are not honest. Same thing with like the OZM. But I just think people should be honest. I love Kelly Clarkson for saying she was on like a weight loss drug. And, you know, I love when people say it because I just think it's, again, unrealistic to be like that skinny, that fast and less. And, again, I'm for it. But I was just like it makes me so, so sad. I don't know. It's really, really sad. Yeah.

Yeah, I think the honesty really is like the biggest thing because like Kylie denied it for so long. Granted, she was like young or whatever. And I'm sure someone told her to like lie about it. But yeah, like you obviously like change how you look, but then made it seem like, oh, it was just because I like overline my lips. Yeah, you know, you sold the dream. Yeah. Oh, if you get the lip kit, like that's what your lips look like, too. And it's like, yeah. And then everyone got the filler. Yeah.

and yeah i just the way she worded it in this show she was like um i've been on a journey for the last year to dissolve half of my lips yeah i'm like it's not a journey like she's like she talks about even just dissolving half of our lips as a year-long journey yeah so i'm like you obviously did a lot well it was just such a weird scene and i just think they i i'm like are they like that out of touch and again i watch them i like their lifestyle but it's just like

damn, that's some out of touchness. Like I, you know, like I don't. Yeah, it's, the show is really confusing to me. Like in this like new era of Kardashians, because I feel like before they were more like relatable and now like the whole thing is almost being like unrelatable.

relatable like their whole lifestyle like i have to watch the show because like for work i have to make videos on it and i'm just like interesting it's a i'm like whoo like i sit through it and i'm just like what am i gonna i not anymore i used to like really like this show on the e days but now in the new era i think they maybe almost have too much control because like everything is like so specific like what they show into their lives and their conversations is like so produced

And like we said the other day, like Kourtney's whole storyline was the scrapbook. I'm like, this is just like, there's got to be more going on. Now it's scripted, basically. Yeah. That's why it's so... It goes from one person crying about comments to the next person saying the opposite. Because I think they just blocked it. You know, we need one Kardashian to cry about something. We need one Kardashian to talk about this. Then suddenly...

Chloe goes on a journey with her friend to look for... I'm like... Which also killed me. They just had to fill in time. Yeah, for the hour. But Chloe's like, I'm leaving Hidden Hills today. I'm making a trek and I'm going to the Simi Valley, which is, for anyone who doesn't know, literally maybe 10 minutes away. We're like two minutes from there. I'm like, oh, we're not that far.

It's like literally so close. She's like, I'm making a big track, but like, don't worry. I have my phone in case Courtney goes into labor. I'm like, you're literally 10 minutes away. Like what is going on? That was weird. The storylines are just so like bizarre and like so out of touch. And I like the great ashes except for Kendall, but I like everyone and Courtney, but I like her. I like Courtney. But I like Kylie. I like Kim. So you just like Kylie and Kim. Yeah.

I like Chris and Corey. I was like, why is Corey there? But I really do think he's like an FBI agent or something like that. Like, I'm always like, that's so... He's like security. I get it. I would date my security too. I would date my security. He is my security. But... I don't know. It's weird. Yeah. I think...

They almost just get so like in their bubble. I feel like it's one of those things where maybe like surrounded by a lot of like yes men, you know, and like, I don't know if, especially with the show, like I feel like if you're doing a show about yourself, you got to have someone like to be like, no, this is the part that people are actually interested in about you.

you yeah you need an oscar you should actually like because you do you're good at like pushing it to not in like a good way i'd just be like i don't know what you're talking about but it's like i always think that you know the stuff that people want to talk about in the push and it sometimes you just need a little push like this is what people are interested in which is like why it does so well to like the title stuff because like sometimes i'm like oh i would never be interested in that but you're like you know you have your hand on the pulse of what people want to hear and see yeah it's like you i need someone who's like a part of your audience almost and like also like a part of like the

internet to like see what the conversation is about you and you want to like give people what they want and you want to like also push the boundaries of that and I feel like right now all the Kardashians are like not doing any of that and then Kylie I feel like this was a scene where it was like oh like Kylie's gonna be real you know what I mean like people are gonna love she's like barely in the show people are gonna love that Kylie's being like unfiltered about her insecurity which I do feel bad for the girl like any woman who's being like criticized for their looks obviously like I feel a little bad for it but then it's just like like you said Kylie

She just like profited so much became a billionaire off of like people wanting to like look like her and it wasn't like attainable So it's like yeah, no, you can't yeah, you can't have people just don't have the sympathy for that Which is like rightfully so and kind of what Kendall said at the end - she was like it kind of made it worse by saying like, you know any other woman they'd stick up for and it's like yeah, no one else is doing these like crazy beauty standards that you guys have and like saying this is what we do and it's natural and it's this and it's working out and all the stuff like that it's like

so much in the face tuning like so extreme and it's not face tune I love a tune but like we got to be able if you get clocked be like yeah tune that like a tan like people like she makes her ranch like of course I face tune this goody image yeah our images are the most I was like so good the house like of course

And like, but we own up to that. You know what I mean? Yeah. But for Chloe to be like, the way, the walls in the background of Chloe's Instagram wavy as hell. She's like, I didn't retouch that at all. It's the angle. Mama, like this diva, we see right through it. I know. And it's like, they do look good. Like they look good. We see them on videos. So it's like, why are you like, it's so weird to me. Even like the lighting I noticed too in their confessionals, like it's all like so blurred. And then Kim, like she leans forward. So her head is bigger than her body. Ooh. That's what I should be doing. Okay.

I feel it. I already feel skinnier. And she has her arm shoulders so tiny. She always leans forward so at the angle you get that like the head's bigger, the body's tiny. It's like, but how much tinier can she get? And then I see them eat. They do their little dinners and stuff and then there's nothing on the food. The plates are full still, like the pasta. But they always, they used to one season show them specifically eating. I think there was one season where they had fried chicken. Remember they had a buffet and Kim was like, oh, all the fried chicken. And that whole season

season like Chloe pizza every time they met it was in a restaurant oh I love this pizza and it would show Chloe eating it and they were like really making an effort to show them eating so and this season you're right they're like not eating and like their tummies are tiny like they're not gonna eat all that but it was so interesting that they're trying to show what you think is good you know show that you're still eating because like that's probably a good thing but it is it is weird and it makes me say I like

I liked the Kardashians better than Keeping Up. I never watched Keeping Up because I thought, oh, they're always like fighting and I don't want to watch this. This I liked because it was so extravagant and not relatable. So then when they tried to be relatable, I was like, this doesn't, no, that's not it. Like just act, just know you're not going to be related to at all. Like you can't relate. You don't know what these girls are going through trying to look like you without the money. Like, it's just like, you know, I don't know. It was like weird. So. Also in society, like most reality shows are about people, real people, but they're not even the 1%. They're the 0.0001%.

They're so not relatable to anyone in this world. So it's like... Yeah, real estate agents are interesting. They either show the really upper elite, like Kardashians and Real Housewives and stuff like that, or they show like CLC, you know? Like the ones that just like really find people that are down on their, you know, it's like the Mama Junes and not that, you know, whatever, they became successful. But it's, you know, the 600-pound life. Yeah, you have to be extreme. Like you have to be either so like rich and unrelatable that people want to be...

you or you have to be so like down on your luck or like have things working against you where people feel better about themselves watching you yeah that's definitely it you're right extreme either way yeah because I was even watching clips with like teen mom like it's still on like it's so crazy that was like that those girls are like younger than yeah the babies are so grown 16 they're like driving which is like so crazy but I kept seeing the clips of like Leah which is like Amber's daughter and it's just like them fighting at the birthday did you see that with her and Gary and I'm just like this is

like kind of sad and like no one's really stepping in and this daughter her whole life has been on TV with her parents just like fighting like over her and on her and it's like really really sad to watch and I'm like oh I don't know why people watch this stuff it's just like like you said they kind of and also like the MTV people should be kind of ashamed right like they're kind of the ones that are like filming all this and not really there was another show where

Oh, God, did I write it down? There was another show where I was just like, why... Was it on TV? I don't know. I can't remember who it was. But I was like, why would they not step in? Because at a certain point, you have to... I don't think I wrote it on this one. But it's like, I think you should say something. You know what I mean? If you're seeing these kids. Was it...

I don't know. I can't remember. Maybe it was like Abby Lee or something like that, but that wasn't it. It was something where I'm like, someone should step in and say something. Yeah, with kids especially, like that's where it gets so dicey. I mean like I guess there's some like reality shows that have kid talent that's like cutesy. Like I have a cousin, like one of my younger cousins loves like the – what's the one? Not Top Chef Junior. The one with Gordon Ramsay but with the kids. Yeah.

like MasterChef Junior or something Gordon Ramsay is a kids one? yes is he yelling at them? no he's like so sweet and like encouraging and like sometimes they get hard on themselves and he's like no like what are you doing like you're doing great and he'll like help them like cook so it's like very like wholesome and it's like so weird for him people do like cuts of like him talking to kids versus adults and he's like what are you doing you're an idiot sandwich you know and the kids he's like no like you're doing great he talks them through it you know so I guess like that stuff when kids are talented and you kind of like

foster their talent and you like uplift them I guess like a case like that is good but like I mean especially family dynamics I feel like with kids that's like hard to make ethically no for sure that wife swap show I remember that was always so weird like the kids were like the kids were always going through it yeah it seems a little bit abusive and no one saying anything but I don't know

I don't know. Reality TV is weird. Anytime people ask us to do reality TV, I'm just like, mm. Trust me, like, my whole life it's, like, been a hundred people being like, we want to develop a show and it, like, goes nowhere because I just know, like, how it works or whatever. But also it's like, I don't think I'd want to do that. I don't know. Because then you have to create drama or, like. Yeah. I don't want that. You know what I mean? Or they create drama for you. Which is worse. I think that's worse than having reality. It's like, no, I can't do that. So, I don't know. Not reality TV. And I feel like.

I don't know. Reality shows in the early 2000s were it. Everyone had one. But nowadays, right? No, yeah. I think especially with social media because everyone kind of does stuff themselves. Yeah, and you make all the money yourself. Because a reality show, they pay you literally nothing. I don't think we've ever done a reality TV offer. They're like $100 or something. Still to this day, it's like $100 for reality TV. They're so cheap. Yeah, people from reality TV, I feel like they mostly make their money from...

like, influencing from getting famous from reality. That's what Love is Blind said. They said they'd get, like, brand deals or something, which is, like, crazy. Same with, like, The Bachelor and Bachelorette contestants and stuff. Like, all the money is, like, after the show. The Bachelor's a weird one to me. Like, how are they...

Like why are they so popular after the show? Because once the show's done, I forget about them. I can't even tell you who The Last Bachelor was and we watch every season. I think it's like what – it's almost like any reality show with a drag race or anything too. It's like kind of what you do after the show. Like if you like have a personality and then you just like go in on it, like –

I haven't watched Bachelor in so long, but like the one I always remember, Ashley I, she was like on, I know The Bachelor was, his name was Ben. He was like a tall, a tall white guy. Really narrows it down. Oh mom. Oh.

All of them. It really nails it down. But her thing, like, was she was just crying all the time. Very, like, Trish back in the day. I love that. And that was her thing. Like, she made merch of her crying and, like, the mascara. Oh, okay. She was just, like, emotional. And that was, like, her thing. So, like, I feel like if you have a thing on a show and you, like, go in on it 100% and, like, you make yourself a personality, then people get, like, invested in you. Is she still out there? No. She still, like, does...

like her own stuff now she's like a mom she has her two she's pregnant she's having her second baby and she got the guy she was on bachelor in paradise and she was like desperate for this guy like crying over him like wanted him so bad and he didn't want her and then he got over him and then he came crawling back and then they got married and had two babies okay i'm like very yeah love coded i love it i love that that's cute i guess it's cute but i to me i'm just like every time i hear someone saying from bachelor and i was like who cares i'm like who cares

I have like a one-sided beef with Nick Viall, but like honestly, like he was on Masked Singer. We watched an old season because like my daughter loves Masked Singer. So we're watching like a season, like two seasons ago. And like, they're like, oh, he came out to give a clue. Like from The Bachelor, it's Nick Viall. And I was like, what? Like,

This is the person. There's some that, especially, there's some that just have, like, not a lot of personality that I'm like, I think we're good on you. You know what I mean? That's what I'm saying, yeah. I think we've topped out. Even with, like, on Traders last season with Pilot P, I'm like, I think we're okay. Like, I think we could have just kept it moving with, like, you know. Perfect example. That guy, I was literally like, this guy looks like a guy off the street. Like, not whatever, but I'm just like.

I'm just like, who is this person? Like, no personality, not funny, like nothing special about him. And I was like, how do they? Traders, you're on thin ice with me because I don't know about this casting for this new season either. I just think it's great. I think it's going. I don't know. I know. It's going down. I think I gotta wait.

I don't think so. I have a feeling that something is going to go down with this cast. It's going to be interesting. Well, I mean, they split it up that way, but I guess so. It could go either way for sure. There's some gay icons in there. I mean, Bob the Drag Queen is the only one I care about. Who else? Who's the gay one? Brittany Haynes. Gays love her. Who's that? She was from Big Brother, but an amazing race. But she's like reality TV. Gays love her just because she's like a sassy, quippy, sarcastic, smart-ass blonde girl. And she's cute. And she's all about for the gays. So...

And she's best friends with Janelle, who you like. Okay, we live for Janelle. Yeah, she's best friends with Janelle. I always just get a little bit, when someone says gays love them, I get a little bit competitive. She's never said that. We've claimed her. Right, but that's what I'm saying. I get a little bit, because I'm like, but what about me? Like, I thought I was, you know what I mean? I don't need to compete against another blonde. Yeah, it was crazy. I know you sent me a list of like, women who are okay to say stuff about gays. And I was just like,

I thought I was on there with Julia Fox and Rosalie was Leah was it Jessica Lange why her I love I live for Jessica Lange is she a gay icon Michelle Visage oh okay Charlie XCX I like Michelle did I come from Michelle I like Michelle Visage I want to be her friend did I ever say anything bad about her you have you flip back and forth I mean with everyone you've said positive that's the fun thing about you for every for any shade you can find lights

Oscar would be like, have I ever talked bad about this person? Because honestly, I just say a lot of stuff that I feel in the moment. Like, Sugar and Spice had something against Michelle. So I was like, not against, but just like, you know, they weren't feeling her. I was like, no, she was awful. But now I'm kind of like, oh, man, I kind of see myself in Michelle. Like, I feel like we're kind of – I feel like she was nice to me at one point too. So I feel like, you know, like, I don't know. I just need to – Normalize changing your mind, you know? Normalize, yeah. Normalize talking about people you don't know. You know what I mean? Like –

once you get to know them, you take it back. You know what I mean? If I got to know Kendall Jenner and she was a lovely girl. You might think she your besties. Yes, exactly. And I'd be like, you know what? I said that you were uninteresting and I liked you the least, but I like you now. People surprise you. No, she needs to make an effort to change your mind. If she came on here. If she cares, she'll make an effort to change your mind. If she came on the podcast, things would be different. I think so too. I think

I've met people and I know in my – God, there was someone who had talked crap about me and then I met them and they were like – maybe it was like when I was thinking about Colleen when I was trying to give her the out when I thought we were still friends to be like, did you ever do this about me? And then I remember I would tell her like – or when I – oh, when I first asked her about – Or like a Jake and Johnny too. Yeah. That's a good one. That's a good – yeah, Jake. Yeah, Jake definitely did not like me in the reality house. He definitely made videos. I think he said I was annoying too and I was like, respect. Like, you know what I mean? Like, I get it.

I get it. I literally say that about everybody. And I probably said it about him in the reality house. I think I was like, I don't know this person's name or something. You know, like something. So I get it. And I also think maybe he genuinely thought I was annoying and like did not like me. But I do think, like you said, once you get to know people, sometimes like they can change your mind. You know what I mean? Yeah. So that's what I like to think with him. So yeah. And Colleen too. When I asked her the first time about the nude thing, I was like, it's fine if you've like talked about me. Just let me know so I like know how to address this. And she like still denied it. But I was still like, it's fine if you did. I've talked

People like, you know, I talk about when I talk about this before, like Joey, before I met Joey, I used to like talk like so much crap about him. And then I met him and he was like actually like the nicest person in the whole world. And I was like, okay. And he like knows that like he was friends with Shane and I speak like he's so fake. He's so this, he's whatever. And then I met him. He's like so nice. And I was like, oh, he's literally still the nicest so far. Like, look, I said, I said about Colleen. I was like, oh my God, these are unproblematic.

I said it too. In the December mukbang of December 2022, I remember seeing that mukbang. I'm like, my God, you and Joey are like the nicest, most unproblematic people. Like who would try to get – like I was genuinely shocked because I didn't know about any of that stuff that she had like a hate Reddit. I was like, that's so weird. Like it's something that I could never have ever predicted with her ever because I literally said that like six months before she got – you know, her true colors came out or whatever. So I always say that about Joey. I'm like, he's literally the nicest. He never talks about people. I said that about Colleen because I never heard her talk about

about people and I was like what the you know what I mean but I have to watch that because not that I'm no premonitions but I'm just saying like if that happened with Joey I'd be like my streak is out you know what I mean changing your mind either way you know

do you mind either way? It depends on the information that comes out. As far as I know, there's no skeletons in the closet. Right. Rosanna Pansino and probably Justine. I don't know her, but they all seem... Justine seems like, yeah, she's just living her life for the Apple Watch. Yeah. Having the time of her life. But watch something comes out that she has this scheme with Apple or something else.

You just never know. And like I said, I've heard some Tiana, some influencers where I'm just like, that's actually wild. That's true. And like, you always are like, would that come out? Is that going to come? Is that even true? Like, it's actually crazy who would shock you. So I think. That actually is very like, um, Tana coded because there,

There was like this tea about like Jack Wright, the TikToker. I have no idea who this is. I vaguely know who he is. He's just like – he's like another like cute white boy TikToker. Current TikToker? Yeah, he has like over 11 million followers on TikTok. He's not like a MegCon boy or something? I just learned about MegCon this morning. No, he's like a –

It stands for meet and greet convention. I just watched the whole TikTok. Oh, I had no idea that's what it stood for. Yeah, I had no idea what this was. It only lasted six months. Anyways. That was when Shawn Mendes was on, right? With Cameron Dallas Nash-Greer. Cameron Dallas Nash-Greer. Jake-

Yeah. The little one. The sweatshirt. Jacob Sartorius? Yeah, he came on when they re-signed for another team because they broke the contract that came. I had to hold this dive in them. I want all of them. Jacob Sartorius came on at the end. I think DJ Mahogany Locks, too. Yes, Mahogany Locks. Which I knew her from TikTok. I didn't know she was part of this group. I like her. She's cool. No, does she dance, too? Yes. Yes, okay. She danced in her uncle's Red Fu or something. Oh, wow. Yeah. Wow.

We'll react to that. Yeah. Okay. So, Jake Wright. I know they talked about him when I was on Cancel 2 and I, like, didn't really know who this was. He's just kind of like a Noah Beck type. Just like a brand-friendly, attractive, white boy who is just, like, cute on TikTok. Okay. Yeah. But that was another thing. Like, Tana. She...

talked about on the canceled tour she like exposed him or like name dropped him as like someone who was like secretly like creepy behind the scenes because like in an episode of canceled a couple months ago she talked about how this one tiktoker that no one would expect like every time she sees him out for halloween he's always dresses like jeffrey dahmer and he like he's done it like four years in a row and he takes it like very very seriously um so he's never been like photographed in his like

Jeremy Dahmer like costume or anything so it's just for like the parties he's dressed as like Jeffrey Dahmer no like he'll post his like wholesome like Spider-Man costumes or whatever but like because he's brand friendly yes but then like secretly he's like this Jeffrey Dahmer costume did she

So she – in the canceled episode, she didn't say who it was. So people have been speculating for months. But then like on the tour – She confirmed. Yeah. She said it was him, Jack Wright. They confirmed a lot on the tour. I guess Brooke said her A-list – her A-list. Did she say it on the podcast or on the tour? Because I guess she said the name of the A-list person. I think I told you. I think it was the tour, I want to say. Unless it was a recent episode. There was a recent episode. I don't think she said it on there. But I was like, wow, you guys really spill all the tea. And I was like –

That's kind of worth the price of admission for sure. But then they're like, we have to watch what we say. But I'm like, but that's what makes the tour so good is they're getting all this like tea from it. Yes. Oh, man. So Jack Wright. So did he respond? No. Well, she also said that like she would see him out in the parties and he would be like doing all these crazy drugs. And again, like staying up to like 5 a.m. or later, like doing all these crazy drugs. And it was just like not like how you perceive him at all. I love how she just is saying, I love it. I love it.

I wish people listened to, I wish I had a million views when I was her age and I could just say that, I guess people did, I guess people listened to me when I was like that age when I talked about people, but they didn't take me seriously. Like, I love that Tana is like, taken seriously, like, girls like have her back, you know what I mean? I feel like when I talk about people, like, oh, Trish, you're annoying, but I feel like people have her back with this. So would they say, are they trying to cancel him? Honestly, he should. If you're trusting him as a

is a serial killer like there's something kind of wrong with you for like four years in a row secretly yeah secretly too you're like it's not part of the netflix promotional you know evan peters but yeah um he hasn't responded but he's posted he's still like posting on tiktok and all the comments are like i fear you ate and slayed um it's a lot of that on his comment section because it's like tiktoks are just like him being hot you know so it is a little like

It is just odd. I can't look. I truly can't look at, like, I saw a picture of him, I think. It was blonde. Yes, with curly hair. And I can't look at, like, someone that age and, like, think hot. I guess it's, like, little girls that are, like, he had, like, teenagers. I think, yeah, probably. How old is he even? I don't even know how old he is. He just looks like such a little boy. Like, I just, I'm like, that's so crazy to me that those people are, like, being hot. Okay, that makes sense, I guess. Yeah. I guess...

Probably for the teenage girls. Probably not for me. He's doing those TikToks for her. But I was like, oh, I just can't look at it. I haven't seen any of his TikToks. I just saw a picture of him. Because I was like, who is this person? It's so interesting, though. Like...

dichotomy of it all. The dichotomy of the lore, which I feel like is a very Tana sentence. Dichotomy of the lore. She does say big words. I think she did say dichotomy. She says some big words sometimes. I'm like, oh, you are smart. She just whips them out sometimes. Yeah. Like, work. No, she's actually, like, actually really smart. Vocabulary diva. Yeah. She knocks it out of the park. But, yeah, it's, I feel like here's another one, though. It's like, what can he really, like, say if he, like, addresses it? Yeah, I like Jeffrey Dahmer. That's weird, but, like, what is he going to say? There's no, I want someone to leak a picture of him in it.

Like I want to see that. There's got to be pictures, right? Then he should say something, especially if he's brand friendly. But you know,

I judge all these brands that just like look past it because they're guys. Because I see so many guys. It's kind of like we were talking about Zach Justice and stuff like that. Like they're actually, the stuff he says is so problematic whether it's like trolling or rage bait or whatever it is. It's like actually awful and they still get like sponsors. I remember I was like losing sponsors for literally like saying I didn't know my gender. Like I thought I was transgender like five years ago and I've explained it why and I'm non-binary now. I saw someone make a TikTok about me. It was Press Hilton made a TikTok about me. He's like, anyone remember Trisha Paytas? The one who said she was transgender. The one who's transgender. And I was like, I wasn't in

I'm non-binary, not transgender, because I think it's super offensive, because now I've come out and said what I was thinking. But the fact that I wasn't getting sponsors for literally seven years, because those kind of videos, or there's reasons, there's other reasons, disassociated identity disorder, all that stuff like that that I thought I had or whatever. But it's these people who are saying racist, homophobic stuff currently, actively, to people's faces about influencers, it's actually crazy that they still get sponsors. The Matt and Abby one is another one, that podcast, because that guy is actually a piece of shit.

actually like if there's one person that I would actually want like real beef with is like Matt because Matt Howard because he's actually awful and she's actually in like a verbally abusive relationship or emotionally abusive relationship and like doesn't see it and is like telling people like if you hate my husband like you're not a friend of mine it's like you're actually in this weird position he's also like being platformed whether it's for rage bait or not like he's embarrassing her like it's so embarrassing and he's such an awful human and I was like the c-section thing that went viral this week about him being like you know uh

not talking to his wife after she gave birth because he disagreed about the formula. She wanted to breastfeed. He wanted to do formula. So he like shut down and talked to her. And she was like, yeah, that really hurt the most because you weren't talking to me. I was like, what a fricking little bitch.

your husband your your wife just gave birth via c-section like traumatic all this stuff like that she's trying to pump like you're an actual so anyways those kind of people I'm just like how are they getting sponsors and this is Jack White too I guess I don't know him so I shouldn't say this but if he is actually dressing as Jeffrey Dahmer like that's actually problematic do you know what I mean like it's also like if it's like secretive and it's like I don't know I think it's not brand friendly let's put it that way if you want to dress as Jeffrey Dahmer okay you're a freak but you're also gonna be like Tide Pods or whatever the

you're promoting. Like, that's weird. Like, you have someone who's actually, like, what is the word? Like, admiring a serial killer. I think if you publicly admire it, and it's not just true crime where you're, like, listening, I'm interested in the story. It's like, I'm dressing as a serial killer. Like, there's something, like, wrong with you, I actually think. Like, you know what I mean? Uh-huh. And you're still getting brand deals, and that's, it just makes me so upset because it's such a double standard, and I'm just like, like, in the Patreon, we talked about Zach and all this stuff. I didn't know half of the stuff that he said, and I was just like, that's,

It's so frustrating. Yeah, it is a weird double standard because it's like... Obviously, you still get flack for the stuff...

Some of the videos too. And like, obviously that's people's decisions, like, you know, forgive or not, but it's, I feel like there is such a difference in someone who it was like working through like mental illness and like figuring out their identity and being like confused about that as a result of their mental illness. And then being able to apologize and like move on from that versus someone who like continuously doubles down on like, you know, homophobia, transphobia, racism. Like there's people who are actively, uh,

who actively hold those beliefs and like, or have platforms and then promote those beliefs. Yeah. Like promote transphobia and stuff. And it's like, no one really like cares because they're men question mark. Like it's cute. Yeah.

Yeah. You guys. It's like... Yeah. It really is... Wow. I mean, we talked about it before with, like, the AuVon. Like, the AuVon's, like, very, like, brand-friendly and stuff. But then he has... He brings guests on who are, like, transphobic and stuff. So it's like, well, obviously that's not... Yeah, it's just... The culture right now. No. Yeah. And you shouldn't be able to eat, like...

it one it's weird if those are your thoughts in private but okay you're private but you're like an entertainer and like that just like does not fly like like why would you want to promote someone like that like even if you're internalized like transphobic homophobic whatever and stuff like that like you're bring on a guest and like promoting it's so freaking weird to me it's like that's i don't know it's just such a but then then you ask such a question why are you doing that like you're obviously bringing this person on who's all this stuff i don't know it's

It's super frustrating. And I try not to vent because then people just point 5,000 fingers. Oh, remember this. You know what I mean? It's like, I get it. Yes, you can keep bringing stuff up for 10 years and I'll always talk about it. I don't care. But it's just more frustrating than anything. Yeah. There's just a difference between like actively like –

choosing to be a good person versus like you're in the current day with the knowledge that your beliefs are hurting people. Yeah. And then continuing to like perpetuate them. There's such a big difference with that. Like, you know that like if you say that like, oh, gay people shouldn't be around kids. Like, you know, that's like hurtful and problematic and false. But then you are saying that and encouraging other people to believe that like,

you know what you're doing you know what i mean for sure and all the kids that follow you like they're just not fully there so whatever you say they'll take as truth you know what i mean whether it's a joke or not and that i think that's the scary part too like with zach like he he jokes he makes those like racist jokes but then other kids will see it and just think like that's like okay too i don't know it's just like it's very bizarre it's very weird too because now i see it more like we were really woke for a minute and now i just see now with the younger generation just like trying to push it and like going back to like edgy jokes and stuff and i'm just like yeah it's just like they're

There's a reason like wokeness is good. Like, you know what I mean? I mean, some of it can be like a little extreme, but I feel in general, like there's a reason why wokeness is good. But shout out Mr. Beast because he actually defended one of his trans like members of his crew because another influencer, Nick Merckx was tweeting transphobic comments about her. Who was it? His name is Nick Merckx. It's his employer, employee. Nick, he's like a streamer on kick. I want to say.

Nothing good comes from kick. Nothing good comes from kick. Tea. Everyone was like anti-kick. Yes. I saw Amaranth got like a pink or a green G-Wagon. I'm not returning it, but it said kick on the thing. I'm like, this is like the

This is like the third influencer I see got G-Wagon sent to them. I was like, what the hell? What is going on? Where's our Tesla truck? Literally. It's so odd. And Kik, they have money because they signed like upfront deals, I think, to like give them money. Okay, maybe we should go there. I think so. No, because everyone there is like problematic. Down. I thought Rumble was the problematic one. Probably too. Every person I've seen on the Kik, it sounds like just a mess. Because then one of his friends...

Dr. Disrespect. We're getting deep. Dr. Disrespect? It sounds like a supervillain. He was like a Twitch streamer, but then he got banned off Twitch and no one really knew why. But then allegedly it came out he was using a Twitch feature to sex minors, allegedly. A former Twitch employee has said that or claimed that. And he's really good friends with this guy, Nick Merckx. And Nick's whole platform is like trans people and gay people. We need to protect our kids from gay people and trans people.

And it's like everyone was like clowning him. Is he like tweeting this? He's tweeted it before and said it before. Well, what? Okay. And everyone's clocking him. It's like, well, now your best friend is allegedly talking to Minor. So you should be protecting the kids from like people like your BFF. Oh, and is he replying to it? So, yeah. Well, then – because one of the people who said that was Ava Chris Tyson. She works with Mr. Beast and she's trans. And he's went like on a tirade against her being like, well –

you need to worry about being with like your kid blah blah blah like going after people say that that's so annoying yeah and i was like trying to like be transphobic against her and mr beast even like replied and she's like actually like ava will not go on like shoots and stuff because she's always like with her kid like she puts her kid first like before work yeah um and i mean good for me and even like throughout it was like full like transition i was like mr beast has been very supportive of her um did she had she transitioned publicly yeah and like pretty recently i think

within the past couple years for sure. Okay, so he's not transphobic. So one point for Mr. B's. Yes, the wells and... But should we give people points for not being transphobic? I think it's not... Or sticking up for it. Yes, I think that's... At least like he went above... I think it makes a difference for someone like Mr. B's who is literally the number one. You're right. And like it is the, you know, especially the boys like him. I feel like he's a very boy audience. Yeah. He's like the opposite of the Zach Justice. He's like...

Yeah, that's, you're right. You're so right. Especially when it is like a bro. Not that he's like a bro, but he's like straight. Yeah, he does get bro vibes. Yeah, he's definitely like you're a straight guy for sure. That's why we like Ted too. I just like those people that go like a little bit above and beyond to be an ally. And stand up for. Yeah, that's true. That's good. Okay, he gets like 10 points then for that. Yeah. And he has good chocolate, so maybe 20 points. And he built those wells, I guess. So that, a couple points for that. Yeah, that seems performing. No, no, no. He's fine.

Okay. Well, when is he coming on the show? I want Mr. Peace. I feel like we're building back the bridge with the big last year. Season one. Yeah. We burned the bridge and now the bridge. Yes. You can build bridges back. It's totally possible. You burned a bridge. It's like, well, people rebuild. It's not that hard. Like, yeah. That's so funny. Um,

Um, yeah. Don't be transphobic. Period. Period. It's really not that hard. It's really easy, actually. Like, it's actually so easy. It just doesn't make any sense to me. Like, why do you... Why are you in everyone else's business? Also, like, streaming is kind of, like, the gayest job ever, I think. Like, you're not, like, a manly man streaming. Like, you're... It's, like, very vain. Yeah. It's, like, you're sitting there, like, entertaining, talking, like, staring at, like, yourself, you know? Yeah, yeah, yeah. It's, like, so self-indulgent. No, there's nothing...

Well, separate from the gay thing. I don't want to say anything like attractive about gaming. There's nothing where I'm like, ooh, that's so hot. Like there's nothing, you know what I mean? Separate from our gay conversation about it. It's just like weird. Another like streamer. I've learned a lot about streamers this week. But not the cuties. Like we love the cuties, like the pokies, the cutie Cinderella's, whatever. Oh, always that, yeah. There's another one who broke up with his girlfriend of a couple years, I want to say. Or maybe, I don't know.

Of a while. And his name is like Dante or something. And he's like, he had a breakup with her because he needed to focus on League of Legends. Oh my God. And his girlfriend was like, no, like I was trying to like support him through it. Like I would, you know, bring him food when he was streaming, blah, blah, blah, blah. And she was like heartbroken over it. He issued like the statement was like, yay long. It was like a freaking novel. Was he even canceled about it or what?

People were just kind of clowning on him. It was like, oh, you chose a video game over like your relationship? It's just so weird. Because he literally was like, I can't have a relationship and play League of Legends. It was like a lot. Like it wasn't.

like respect it because like don't string that girl along you know that poor girl because i see it well they also just celebrated their anniversary too how long how many years i forget how long it was let me see because i just think of is her name ayla ayla and kian oh yes yeah like i just think of her just being like he's just playing video games great it's his job i get it but like just playing video games all night and she's just like making dinner by herself and eating dinner right i'm like i don't know i mean they need to really bring it to what it

What it really is. I mean, he's going to war. So you need to let your man go out to war for a couple of months and then he comes back. So maybe we need to have like some boot camp, like a place for them that they can go and fight, you know, and win the war. And then they come back to their wives. Maybe they think that. That's our new generation. They think they're really doing something playing with their games.

Yeah, the kick people are funny because, I mean, they're so not... All you see on Twitter is them making fake fights. Have you seen that? Like, that's usually what they go viral for. They just make fake fights between themselves. Oh. Like actual fistfights, but you see that they're all filming and... Oh, but they're like real people meeting up and faking their fistfights? They're faking, yeah. But they're meeting up in person. It's not just like on the game. Yeah, in person and fake everything. I mean...

The gaming world I hate. I think it's boring. All of it makes me hate it more. I'm just like, whatever. Unless you're cutesy. Yeah, I'm cutesy. That's fine. Everyone else I'm like... If you're gay and cutesy, we love. Gamers... Not us. We're fine too if we're gay. But we spend an hour doing it. If you're spending more than eight hours a day gaming, you're a loser. I don't know. I don't think you can say that. I think it's fine, right? I don't know. Losers aren't a bad thing.

I don't think. I mean, I don't mean it in a derogatory way. I mean, you lose it. Like, you lost your relationship. You lose things that are meaningful in life. Well, he's probably young, too. How old is he? I just hope he's not in his 30s. No, he's in his 20s. Yeah, and they were together for over a year. Like, look, I'm definitely on team girl here, but, like, I kind of respect him being like, I don't have time for a relationship, I guess. Like, you know, you're not wasting that person's time.

Especially if she's, like, bringing him meals and really devoting... Giving wifey energy for someone who doesn't even want to, like... Yeah, I mean, it's better late than never, I guess. Right. Well, I mean, they could be married with kids. Yeah, exactly. Yeah, it's like... I mean, a year is a long time, especially, like, she really believed that they...

They were going to go the distance. But at least she found out, you know, now she can, you know, move on. Laura. Shout out, Laura. Shout out, Laura. We're on your side. But just know this is for the better. Like, definitely you will find someone more suited to you who's going to give you sandwiches, who's going to feed you. You know what I mean? I think that's where you need to get. Yeah. Gaming is a lot. I mean, also...

See, like, Jimmy and his boyfriend both stream. Like, they're gamers. Oh, we love that. We love, yeah, they're cuties. Gay streamers we love. Gays and girly streamers. But there's just, like, the ones that are just, like, toxic and too intense. Like, this. Yeah. You're just too much, too intense. Yeah, like, chill. Let's lighten up a little. Yeah, you could probably have time for both. It's called time management. Like, you're able to do everything. Have a hobby and work and have a girlfriend. Yeah, they're just a little much for me. This is why I stick in the theater. Yeah.

also if you compare it to real sports i mean because that's what it is right it's a sport right but real sports you know they train they play games but they have families and kids and life and businesses it's like

There's something problematic about being able to game 24-7 when, you know, in a sport team, you have a game. Yeah. You have a competition. You go back and forth. You train. It's also, like, not healthy, I think, to, like, be on a screen that whole time. Like, just be in a video game for more than... Oh, for sure. You're rotting your body and your brain. Yeah. Touch grass, as they say. Touch grass. I like that saying. I wish I would come back. I feel like it's kind of a millennial thing to say now, right? It is. Now it's old. Yeah. It used to be an N, but now it's so old. And people say, like, ooh, what an N.

insults okay god i do feel old every time i like watch anything what was i watching i don't know there was something and i'm like god i really do feel old sometimes was it the bike riders movie or maybe milf manner no that wasn't it i do love milf manner the second season is oh maybe maybe it was i was like man i could be on this show maybe because i'm like literally their age if i was single which i'm i have a ring um tati westbrook

It's not coming on the Just Trish podcast, I don't think. Did you see my live? Did I send you? Yeah, you sent this to me. She was in live. Talk about being live 24-7. It's like I see Jeffree Star and Tati. Ooh, isn't that interesting? It's Jeffree Star and Tati is my whole live podcast.

and I went to Tati's but then I was like oh no like you went to Jeffery and he has like a lot and I'm like I went to Tati's and I saw she only had like four not only not in a bad way I think she was gearing up for her main live show I think she just started yes it does sound like she was doing a pre because I was staying in it until she was like okay guys I'm going to switch cameras and I'm going to come right back I was like first of all what are you how is that even possible switch cameras for a TikTok live

I think, yeah, because people even will like multi-stream from like their computer to TikTok. Yeah, it's on your PC. So she sees on the screen the comments and everything. Oh my God, high tech. She's, her and her husband in there just selling hair straighteners or whatever they were doing. I was like, okay, that's kind of everything. But I genuinely like wanted her. I'm like, I kind of felt bad that I kind of felt bad because then everyone's like, go on, just stretch. And she was just trying her hardest to ignore it. It was like every comment was that.

back because I wasn't really trying to troll her like I actually wanted her to come on and I was just like girl like you need to come on and talk about this but I don't think I ever will I wanted to DM her but I was just like uh let me not like harass this person no you should DM her it's worth a shot it's very like um Charlie XCX and Lorde like squash their beef on a song and I feel like that could be the same like you and Tati yeah like I don't know if we have that big of a beef lore no it's literally like kind of short-lived yeah and one-sided for the most part but yeah I

like don't know if it's gonna like boost up my you know what I mean like Charlie and Lorde coming together like that's kind of like boosting both of them me and Tati I don't know I think so I think it's like historic in a lot of ways like you've grown a lot she's grown a lot you know I see it I see the vision I feel like we're just both bottom of the barrel at the moment I don't think we need I mean we're mid barrel but I think you know no we're okay what do you

what do you mean you're telling both of you short like i think about how historic like dramageddon was you know definitely true she definitely had the more clout than me for sure yeah and like just that's a big part of internet history do we look sad now just coming together like we're both kind of no i think it's a sign of like it shows maturity shows growth it shows like women putting aside their differences okay it's feminism we're doing it yeah perfect get her off like what i'm kind of

I see it. You have to see the vision. Like, I think there's something like very powerful about people putting the differences aside, a la Charlie and Lorde. Right. And, you know, unifying in their art, talking about their differences and also paving a way for the future. I think that's very powerful. Okay, actually I love that. Okay. Come on, Tati. I apologize for my Tati dumb as hell video. I was on meth at the time, for real. You can see by the scabs on my legs. But, look, I love you. And honestly, everything I say is just in jest.

Tati of all people no she was kind of having a breakdown I think she was having a mental breakdown a little bit and I kind of feel sad about it and I can relate to it yeah she was probably I mean clearly going through a lot but especially like you know we found out

like, the stuff with, like, her business partner, like, being shady and stuff. So, obviously, there was a lot of stuff behind the scenes, you know. But do I extend an invitation, then, to James? Because it's like, okay, he was also a victim. But James also has, like, pretty damning allegations of... But so does Tati. She literally accused him of trying to seduce a straight man and, like, coerce him and stuff. But that...

That was like getting fed information and then being naive enough to like perpetuate and believe it, which is something of itself. Dangerous though. It is. Saying that a gay man's trying to like trick straight men out there. Like that's kind of dangerous. But we have seen some cases where some things were true about James, like trying to go for straight men. So it gets a little morally murky for sure. But at least there was nothing about Tati, you know, talking to underage men.

So, yeah. A little different. Well, except James Charles. I mean, that's the tea, though, because she was friends with a 16-year-old and thought it was completely normal. It was the era of her thinking she could be a mentor. Not you defending Tati and everything. I'm not defending, but I think there's a difference between James being like, I want to see your armpits and allegedly sending a butt photo to a 17-year-old and then Tati wanting to collaborate with James Charles. She's a business groomer.

I love it. Tati, come on the podcast. You're in this room. I think I was being a Tati hater at the beginning, but now I'm kind of thinking about it. I'm like, I kind of decided with Moses because if we were to start on Colleen, because Colleen was 30 with friends with Adam McIntyre at 15, was he 12 or 13, 14, 15, 14.

and then Tati being 38 and being friends with a 16 year old like I mean and inviting him to her house for dinner I think the power dynamic between Colleen and Adam is so different than James who's already like a celebrity you know what I mean but he wasn't he said it was before her as cover girl she's like I knew him when he had nothing and then when he got cover girl he started blowing up but he was already like an influencer when he got cover girl that's how he got cover girls because he was

influenced. But according to Tati, she had more influence than him. She goes, I helped him. Yeah, I think he was like an up-and-comer, but he wasn't like a nobody. It's not like she plucked him off the street. But neither was Adam. Adam was definitely online at the time. There was a strong emotional current because she was like a motherly figure that he wanted and needed and didn't have. And she said, she called him mom. So there is something there that is just not...

I don't know. Like, I think that, I think it's very similar to the Colleen thing where maybe they don't even know, right? Like maybe they're not even seeing it, but there is like a power dynamic. They're older. They're a couple. They're taking James in as the mom, as helping him with his channel. Not to say whatever, but Adam also had a channel when he was friends with Colleen. Like he talked about it in the little tiny chat that people knew him and stuff like that. Um, obviously enough to give him the Twitter. Her intentions was clearly business, like to use him for money and cloud. Cause if... Which one? Colleen or... Tati. Cause, cause...

Otherwise, if she really saw him as a child, as a son, she would stand by him, educate him, help him, and not bring him down. You don't do that to a kid. If you really see him as a kid and not judge him for those actions as a kid. So I just don't buy any of it. It's all for the money. Yeah, I'm going to have actions.

I might have to agree with that. Again, she can come and clear her case. She can come and change her mind. I don't know. But all I'm saying is like it's very clear. I think I have like a pretty strong stance where I tell everybody this. I'm like, you know, even people who are friends with James, I'm like, if I have a pretty, like I can't just be like lenient with some people. You know what I mean? Like, I don't know. Like I, but I've always felt this way. Even as like a teenager, I always felt like adults being friends, you know what I mean? With like a teen, even when I was a teenager, I was just like,

It's just so weird. I don't know. I had someone literally email me the other day and it was someone I knew when I was really, really young and he was really, really old. And it was so weird. It puts like weird chokehold on me. It was literally yesterday. I think it was like 7 in the morning and I showed Moses and I was just like this is like such a weird feeling. Like it really just made me like I don't know kind of hyperventilate. It was someone like I was very, very young. He was much, much older like in his 50s and he literally emailed me after like again like 13 years saying

Nothing. Nothing crazy. It's just like, is this still your email or something? And I was just like, I don't know. It made me feel some type of way and like so weird. And again, it brought me back to that. I don't know. It's just like such a weird thing. And I was actually of age when I knew him. I was just very young. I was like 20 or something. But I don't know. Maybe it's a trigger for me. I'm not really sure. No, I get it. And it definitely is weird. I just don't think it's as...

To me, I view it different, like, James and Tati different than an Adam and Colleen. Because even if Adam had a channel, like, he was on the level of, like, a James Charles. Like, James was just, like, already famous, really. Like... Hmm.

Adam, I don't think – like he just wasn't like a big influencer in comparison to James. It definitely is weird and I definitely agree. The whole dynamic was weird. Even like JoJo being friends with everyone older is weird. I was going to ask you that. So Colleen and JoJo's friendship is okay? Not okay. I still think it's weird. Like I still think Tachi and James' friendship is weird. But I view JoJo and Colleen's relationship different than like Colleen and Adam because it was weird. Like she was like employing him in a weird way. Like he was just like fully fan-like.

And whereas like obviously Jojo, yeah, she was a fan of the Colleens too, but she at least still was like a name. Like she's still like at least famous on herself. So it kind of like dilutes a little bit. Same with like everyone being friends with Emma Chamberlain when she was 16. So I was awful. I've always said that from day one. No, yeah, exactly. Like I just think like that's even weird too. Yeah, it's still weird. I just think it's very – I think it's a different dynamic than like a Colleen and Adam. I think no matter what, the older people are looking to gain something from these younger people like for sure. Yeah.

JoJo's fame, James Charles' fame, or what she saw was going to be his fame. Like, I definitely think... Which was evident when she threw him under the bus because of literally him not promoting her. I think that theme also just applies, like, to... Especially back in the earlier days of YouTube, like, collabs in general. Anyone who was, like, new and getting views, like...

everyone else wanted to go like run to collab with them you know what I mean like that's David's whole shtick like anyone who was like new and upcoming like he would go and have them in the vlogs and then they're in the thumbnail like the whole like collab era it's like everyone as soon as like someone was popping off they would go and like collab with them

For sure. But they're not inviting their house to dinner and having them to their birthday party and doing their makeup for their wedding. You know what I mean? Like, having these private conversations that weren't filmed. Like, he was, like, hanging out at her house, calling her mom, like, coming to her dinners, flying around to her dinners and stuff like that. So I'm just like, that, I think the one thing to collab with someone, it's, like, another thing to, like,

Befriend them and then again think they owe you something which she clearly thought he owed her something Yeah, I'm just saying like if you present yourself to him as his mom be his mom, you know what I mean? But don't she really disappointed him. I'm sure and hurt him

when it turned out to be like that she's not there to i just think the way she brought him down was really evil yeah it was definitely bad that was bad because the way she like twisted things whether or not jeffrey and shane were in her ear i mean you're a 38 woman like we talked about this on the thing too is like if someone's in my ear telling me to bring down i don't know if

I can't whoever I just like I am well enough to know make my own decisions you know like even if I believe that even I thought they were true you know it's like you still don't bring down like one Tana's like my friend but it's like someone that you look at like your son that you're taking care of that you're like all this other kind of weird I don't know yeah the whole thing definitely was weird like I'm not even like excusing that at all

Because, like, I mean, you said that before, too, when we're reacting to your reaction in 2020. And everything you said, like, it was intense, but, like, you spoke facts. Like, if you were worried for someone, like, why would you, instead of, like, communicating with them that you think that their behavior is going to... That's what I was... See, now you're reminding me why I don't like Tati because she literally was like...

I did it for his protection. I was trying to protect him. I was like, what? Like, he literally was calling you, begging to talk to you, and you're ignoring him. I'm like, you know what? For your protection, I'm going to make a video about what I think that you're doing. I'm like, that was... That's very Lady Miss Whistle. Lady... We're watching too much for Tim. We finished both season one and season two and season three. They're all very good. Like, for your own protection, I'm going to smear your name. Oh, yeah. That is very Lady Miss Whistle. Season two, she did do that to Eloise, which I kind of got that because the queen thought she was... Yeah, but there's other ways to do it. No, but I'll be...

kind of an awful character in the first two seasons. Like she's kind of awful and I'm kind of like why were they so quick to forgive her? I would not because like the whole point

The whole point he didn't like, not to go into Bridgerton, but like in the season one, he didn't like that. Which is a perfect segue. To something that no one wants to be. But I was like, you lied that much to someone? Like, that's pretty crazy. And then he's just like, it's okay. I'm just like. Yeah. The only thing that doesn't make sense is how in this third season, Penelope's character is like, I don't buy that change. Because that person is not this person now. Because like, even Colin told Marina, was like, if you would have just told me you were pregnant and needed someone to marry you, like, I would have done it. But you lied to me. So I can't forget that. So,

how are they just going to forgive Penelope who lied about literally so much and talked crap about literally everybody I'm like that's because we only watched season 3 and I was like oh god season 3 they're amazing they're the best couple ever and then watching season 1 season 2 I'm like damn this girl was devious like I don't know about it like I don't know and then she just kind of yeah

And then she got everything she wanted and I was like, okay, everything's fine now. She was the original snark credit. She was. She was the original snark credit. No, that was actually sad. And then the girl who played Marina Thompson in the first and second season, it was actually really sad. She had like a mental breakdown after those and she kind of came for Netflix and Shondaland. She's like, no one offered me any sort of help after, but she like checked herself into like a mental hospital like after those because she said she felt isolated like her character. I was like, oh my God, I saw it on TikTok. But, so sad. We wanted to watch, well, we can keep talking. Are we over this? Oh,

Not Young Sheldon. We tried to watch it. Turn it off. Time Travelers. Have you watched it? No. The gay show. Jonathan Bailey and Andrew Scott. Oh, it's a gay? I don't know. I mean, I love it. But what is it? I believe it's gay. I believe. Okay. What makes it gay? I think there are lovers in it. Am I wrong? Is it what I'm thinking of?

Someone told us we should watch Fellow Travelers. Oh, Matt Bomer and Jonathan Bailey. Yeah, you talked about him last time. That's not that you knew. No, I knew of it, but I never watched it before. Everyone's like, you should watch Fellow Travelers. What's it on? Because I was trying to find it, but I couldn't find it where it was on. Is it British? Oh, it's on Paramount+. We're going to watch it. I just know he has a Luave collaboration that says Drink Your Milk. Yes, and everyone has those freaking shirts. Oh, is that what it's based on? Yes. I didn't know. I posted his little gif, and it's him. I don't know what it is. I haven't seen the show, but it's just him looking hot with glasses, and he's slurping milk and he's like,

milk me the way I thought that was like a photo shoot I thought it was like promo for the shirt I think it's from the show oh wow that's everything I don't really get the reference but I'm gonna buy that shirt it comes out Ariana Grande was just wearing it today oh she probably got it sent to her I'm like is it out yet I want it so bad Luave it goes to a good cause what is it like the be yourself even if you're gay yeah it was like be yourself even if you're gay fund I

They just help people be themselves. It said it. It said Jonathan Bailey's charity and it's the make yourself love yourself. I don't feel like myself today. I called him. It is something like that. Be yourself if you're gay. It literally is the tagline because I saw it. I forgot what it's called, but it benefits that. I think it has a little milk stain on it, right? It has a little milk stain on the neckline. It's crazy how the Wave H heart is $400 for t-shirts that are just t-shirts. Is that how much it is? Yeah.

Well, that's how much the Challengers one was. So I'm going to assume. And it's literally just like a white t-shirt with text. Literally just block text. Look, we're giving you the same quality here. I know. Oh, the shameless fund is what it supports. Shameless. What's their tagline? Let me see. Our prices are shameless.

No. Yeah, we love a shameless foundation. Nothing says just be yourself and be gay. But I mean, I guess that's the vibe. Yeah, that's the vibe. So people don't have to feel ashamed or something. I swear. Forging a world where every LGBTQIA plus person can live authentically, love freely, and thrive without the burdens of discrimination, oppression, and shame. Shame is in there. I knew it was. I knew there was shame.

What's the I? LGBTQIA+. Lesbian, bi. Oh, yes. Intersex. What's intersex? Born with a combination of male and female biological traits. Look at you knowing that. That was really impressive. Had to do my research for the bathrooms. Do you think they see it in the ultrasound? Probably not, huh? Or maybe. Sometimes, unfortunately, the doctors tell the parents to choose...

And they make surgery to the baby to kind of push them towards one or the other, which is horrible. Just let them be as they are. Yeah, that's why when people are saying anything is a choice or a trait, it is crazy because that certain case, biologically you're changing someone from birth. And so they also don't. Yeah, that's wild. Oh, my God. That's so crazy. Oh, I like that they're in there, though. The intersex. Yeah. Shout out the shameless fund. I love it.

We'll buy all the shirts. I love it. I need to watch that show too. Fellow travelers sound like hello travelers. So I always think it's like, God, can he come on the podcast?

He's another one where I think he took off. Once you're in Jurassic World, I think you become another level. It's not out yet. No, but he's in pre-production. Oh, pre-production? Yeah, at some point, I believe that people that do press, we are in LA, they will come here to do press. I think he's pretty popular. I think he's up there with the Zaka friends of the world now. It just takes one to be put on the radar.

if you will. I want to be at the Laueve show. Did you see all those guys sitting front row at Laueve? It was like the guy from White Lotus. I think the guy from Baby Reindeer was front row. And the guy from Heartstopper, Kit

Oh, I don't know who that is. Yeah. Who's Heartstopper? It's a gay Netflix show. It's cute. It's like a gay teen rom-com vibe. Is it a movie or TV show? Jonathan Bailey is in the next season of Heartstopper. It all comes full circle. Oh, it's like, wow, he's busy. How does he have time to do all this stuff? I think he plays like a teacher in it or something. Ooh. Yeah. Love that. Yeah.

I know, that's weird. See, that's the weirdness in me. A lot of people think it's normal for teachers to be friends with their students, too, and this is what happens. Then you become like, oh, yeah, it's so normal. The show is very wholesome, so I don't think it's going in that direction. I'm not like a pretty little liar. I know. You never know, though. God, he's an effing liar.

free thing yeah he really is he's booked right now I think he's my age too I was like this is crazy it makes me feel like I'm really failing at life and all these people that are like my age just succeeding so big oh you're successful I mean you have your dance went viral like that's big like I see yeah I didn't know until Tana told me I went to do canceled and she goes oh this dance and I was like I don't know what that is and then

And then she didn't post her so later, so I was like, oh, I better go home and make a dance to this. I love it. There's even like articles about it. Who posted an article? Digzerto? Yes. Oh, no. Digzerto's the only person that ever writes about me. They're not even like a real site, right? It's just like a blog or something?

I mean, they always come up on my Twitter. Yeah, no, they do too because you talk about them so much. No, they did it before. I just didn't know it was what you were talking about because I never read it. Dixerto. What did they say? What did they say about the viral dance? They did the whole like deep dive explaining the lore, if you will. I mean, there's not much of a deep dive to it. It's like, it's from the Eminem music video 15 years ago. And then they talked about how it went viral by this one TikTok and then... Who made it viral? Because I think I tagged the original person, but I don't know. I haven't either. Or what did they say? What did Dixerto say? Let's see. Uh,

Okay, on June 12th, from the TikToker Chris Control, shared a clip from the We Made You video of your dance, and it got 6.2 million views. Wow. And then a lot of people didn't know that it was you. A lot of people remember it. Like, it's kind of like the weird, like, nostalgia thing, because everyone just thought that was the real Jessica Simpson. Wait, really? Yeah. Really? That's so...

it was an M&M video and Jessica Simpson was in the M&M video? Yeah. Because all the comments were like, raise your hand if you just found out Trisha Paytas was Jessica Simpson or like that this wasn't the real Jessica Simpson. That's so funny because he does say like Jessica Simpson singing the chorus so I guess it was like, and if you're really young, like Gen Z was probably young when it came out, right? So they probably just believed it. Yeah. I thought she was the one singing.

Yeah, he did. I thought it was you. Yeah, I think a lot of people did. No, people did. They asked me, I remember. And I was just like, that's so weird. Yeah. I guess it kind of comes true when people in the comments say, I'm going to tell my kids this is the real Jessica Simpson. They know what they think. I remember I was, yeah, that was the fact. I was the extra largest. There's like a clip of behind the scenes of Joseph Kahn, the director, being like, we need the extra large Jessica Simpson. And I was like, it's crazy.

That's like 180. I was like, I'm like, I'm 230 now. So that was like literally, what is that? 50 pounds lighter. I'm like, that's actually crazy. That was also peak skinny culture. Like sickly skinny culture. They're like, here's the fatty to play Jessica Simpson. And I'm like, Jessica Simpson was called fat. Like I know back in that era. I just did a whole TikTok about that too. I was like, that's what I was saying about the nickel coliclin too. Cause I saw someone say that like a reporter was like saying she was too fat or something like this is like so crazy that that's like fat.

in this world. Like, that's so wild to me. But the Disco Simpson dance was choreographed by me, just FYI. There was no choreographer. Which is wild. Yeah, that is like some groundbreaking tea. It's always you just riffing that ends up being like...

Like, I love you, Jesus. You just riffed. And that was iconic. Yeah. King Tut. King Tut. Yeah. Well, that was inspired by Steve Martin's dance. I had a little bit of his dance. Something to work with. There was nothing to go off this. They didn't give me the song. They didn't give me anything. They're like, just dance. And I'm 20 years old. I'm not a professional dancer, obviously. And I was just like, what the hell am I supposed to do? So I love that it's going viral because it's literally me in my mirror dancing. And I was like, yeah, because I had no idea what to do. And they made me do it for like the full song, like three minutes. And they made me do it like 10 times. And I was like, this

This is really weird. And it opened up the music video. It's so crazy, actually. That's the only thing I've done in 15 years. But I love that people still talk about it. It's nice. The only thing you've done in 15 years? That's quite a crazy statement. Mainstream, right? There's nothing mainstream. I mean, you did America's Got Talent. That was all around the same. You're on Ellen. You're on Tyra. Yeah.

What was the world record show? But those are all at the same time. I really think it's 2015. Well, Big Brother was the most recent and that was 2017. That was like the last thing I did on TV. Oh, yeah. It's crazy. I want to be on more. You were canceled for a year and then you came back and then you were low key for a year. So really now is just the time. Okay, I want to be on TV again. I want to

Why am I never on TV? Soon it's coming. People keep saying that. They're like, ooh, she's about to be mainstream. But that's never happening ever. Maybe it's just YouTube is becoming mainstream and then you're mainstream. I think they have the biggest amount of subscribers from all platforms. YouTube. More than Netflix and everything. I don't know how many, but

but more than all more than all other streaming okay you're right be grateful for where we're at you remember when you were talking about Kim Kardashian and age and all that you sent me that TikTok about people talking about being 50 like their best time in life like professionally and personally started at 50 oh who are those people I did send that to you who was that you sent it to me some actors and

talk show oh coda coda too she said her career kicked off after 50 hoda or coda hoda yeah and she had her kids after 50 i was like okay and then luke wilson's like i kind of want kids and he's like over 50 and everyone's like that's when your life begins and i was like all right let's go why i sent it to him because you'll be 50 soon like not soon but in a few years when i'm 40 you'll be 50 damn you'll be old that's crazy some people are just young forever i can't picture being 40 that's wild like i'm 40 in four years that's a

crazy that's gonna be so funny too because like in your uh Dotsie Demasal video you were like you're 40 saying the word dramageddon and I know that's gonna come this second for sure oh my god no no for sure but you know what and because she was 38 when she made that first video I'm not quite 38 yet but I was like it is wild though to think about making like am I still gonna make a drama video when I'm 38 like I don't think so I feel like I've grown out of the stage of making like drama videos like as far as like sit down and like

Let me tell you this drama. Especially with an 18-year-old. That'd be crazy, but-

You never know. You never know. Online, the minute you turn 30, people call you 40. Oh, this old man said this and he was like 32. It is like annoying, but also like I did it. So it's just, it's like Kendall said to Kylie, you just gotta toughen up those skin because that's just what it is. And it'll always be that way. People are always gonna be like this old and it's just what it is. Well, that's the difference. There's people that can laugh about it and move on and there's people that get stuck. That's very true. Like I totally fully expect people to call me that. I've been lucky.

lucky so far i mean some people call me you know old as like an insult but in general i think jenzy thinks i'm pretty cool i think jennifer would too because we have a gen alpha daughter so i think they'll think i'm cool like why your mom is so cool hopefully speaking of

Influencers call me old. We don't have any beef anymore. I like her. Brianna, did you watch Bike Riders this weekend? No. I swear. I thought it was Brianna Chicken Fry. Wait, you didn't go see it? You go see every movie. I did not see Bike Riders. With Austin Butler and Mike Feist? I knew that would be your type of movie, but it didn't seem like it. It was awful. But I'm scared to say that because it's like- It wasn't awful. It was awful. But it depends, you know, what- I don't want any biker gangs to come like get me. I'm scared of it, actually. Maybe I shouldn't say it.

I didn't know it was a real movie. I had a lot more respect, I guess, when it was about a real, not respect, but just in general, I didn't want people to come get me. But, well,

go watch it i was so why would you think i would go see bike ride i went to go see inside out too but i didn't go out to see it because it is it is in a way like broke back mountain on bikes they're gay no it's definitely not no it's not they're not i mean that's what twitter was saying but they're not in the i just thought that the minute that we come out okay but it's not um no i thought i was gonna really like it because i love mike feist and he was not hardly in it he was in it for like you know he's like a reporter i love austin butler

wasn't giving and it made me so sad. Mike Shannon, who was from like Shape of Water, love him, not giving. I really don't like the main guy. Do you know Tom Hardy? I didn't know who he was. Oh yeah, I know Tom Hardy. He's from Peaky Blinders or something. I have no idea. I never saw him in anything awful. But honestly, I don't even say the actors. I just think it was just like, boring. And it was really violent and I'm just like, yeah,

I don't know. It's hot guys. I just thought you would go watch because it's hot guys. That's why I went. No, it takes more to get my dollars or my AMCA list membership usage. But you have three movies. Well, mine are all used up right now. I have like three pending movies. Oh, I thought you could do Unlimited. You get three reservations at a time and all mine are booked up right now. For what? You got Inside Out too. I already did see that. I saw Inside Out. Was it good? It was cute. It's a cute movie. Oh, I don't really...

Yeah, I don't know if it would be your tea, but it's about, like, anxiety and stuff. Oh, definitely not my tea. Why would I want to watch that movie? Is that animation? It's Pixar. Yeah, Disney Pixar. I think you've probably seen it. They're like little flames. They look like little flames. Yeah, little emotions. But I have to see Maxine, which I feel like that –

It's violent, but it's like... It's like very for the girls and the gays. So maybe you'll like it. Okay. I don't like violent anything anymore. Even Quentin Tarantino movies. I love... I just can't do it. Yeah, I get it. It's like hard for me too because I don't like love the violent, gory stuff, but it's so like...

Un-T with a C. Okay. So it's like I have to see them. Despicable Me, I have to see. Oh, you love the cartoons, huh? I don't love them. I just, I love the vibes in there. Like, it's so unserious. And like, the, everyone dresses up. Like, all the boys dress up as like, in suits to see Despicable Me, which I think is like, unserious. Why?

It was a whole, like, trend. It was, like, the gentle minion trend. It was, like, you dress up in a suit to go see Despicable Me and, like, the minions. Oh, this is where I'm too old. I don't get it. It's, like, very unserious. Okay. Are you going to do it? No, I don't dress up. I like it. I'm just going to, like, be a part of the ambiance, I guess. Okay. Okay. You love to be in the vibe. Yeah. Quiet Place 2 comes out. Yeah, that sounds horrible. Prequel comes out. Doesn't that sound horrible? Deadpool and Wolverine. What is it?

You ever seen the first Quiet Place? It's like it was your friend Emily Blunt and John Krasinski. Oh, no. Absolutely not. Tapping out. Yeah. It's like aliens kind of – if you make noise, they eat you. So you have to be quiet. What if someone farted really loud? I know. People say that all the time and that's tea. And in the first one, they had a baby. So like how are you having sex and then having – giving birth?

Oh, they're having sex quietly. I think you have to be quiet to avoid aliens. I would not be thinking about having sex. Like, let me have some sex right now. Yeah, like, why would she be like, oh, like, the world is ending, like, let me have a baby. Huh?

Irresponsible. Yeah, that was... You clocked their tea. Yeah. But there's a prequel coming out. Oh, okay. Yeah. I will see pretty much anything. But Bike Riders is a movie no one saw except for you, I guess. It was actually bad. It was actually bad. There was no story. And I'm not even a hater because I was so excited. Literally, you guys know, we just had a baby a month ago. So I was leaving my baby with my mom for even a couple hours. I was just like, I don't know. And we were so... We planned around nap time. We literally went...

the movie was already started. It was like 1230. It started at noon. I'm like, let's go 1230. So we're only gone for an hour and a half because it's a short movie. So it was like, but I was like, I need to see this movie. Like, I really need to see it, especially because I thought we were going to have a lot of fun. I love that you thought it was a hot topic. It was a movie that was on no one's radar. Like, at least I go see like the blockbusters. Like, I at least go see what's going to be number one at the box office. promoting it everywhere, like on his motorcycle and stuff. It's because your algorithm is Mike Weiss and Austin Butler. So obviously you're going to see it. Oh man.

I was dying. They were both in it, but they really were in one scene together and they didn't even interact. I was like, this is bull. And Austin Butler didn't do anything in it. I wonder how much money they paid him because honestly, he literally just had like, he just hung around. He hung around, then he left town. That's it. And I was like, well, damn, that's

easy movie i'm sure they paid him like 20 million dollars it was supposed to come out a while ago it was one that got shelved so it was like yeah it was supposed to come out like a year or even longer ago and then it was supposed to come out from like disney was going to release it disney fox because it was like a fox thing disney they dropped it and then they had to like shop it around to see who would distribute it so then it went to universal for focus features which is like so they knew independent they knew right it was like yeah this isn't gonna yeah i mean how

how Disney has that movie is crazy because it was actually like so violent like made me sick well there's like the Fox division that's like yeah it's like a whole I love that you know all of this about a movie you didn't even want to go see you're like no one's talking about it but I know every fact about this movie and I didn't even know I was going to see it yeah that's how you decide just to go did anyone watch it

it came number three I think in the box office so some people saw it I mean it was like we were one of the three yeah it was like inside out 100 million second weekend blockbuster like breaking records and then and something else then Will Smith's Bad Boys and then it was Bike Riders so

There was a couple literally next to us that walked out in 30 minutes. And I had never seen it. I literally told them I was up there walking out. Like, it was crazy. I had never seen it. No one was in the theater. That's true. We did go out at, like, noon. So maybe that's why. But... I don't think that was why. But... Yeah. Oh, that's crazy. I really thought it would have been big. Because it had a lot of big stars in it. But...

The girl, anyways, the girl, I literally swear, hand to God, that it was Brianna Chicken Fry for so long. Oh, I think I know what you're talking about. Yeah, she had the accent like her. Like, you know how Brianna does that? Like, yo, we're from Boston. Like, how that girl talked the whole time. And I was like, wait, like that literally, and I could not tell the difference. I was like, damn, because you know people look different in movies and...

What is her? She's like British. I looked her up. She's like a British somebody. Is it Jodie Comer? Yeah. Do you know what she's from? I think, is she from Killing Eve or did I make that up? I have no idea. I never saw her ever. Never knew who she was. Her accent was so distracting. I was like, this is so weird. This reminds me of like, Killing Eve, yes.

The way that she was talking was distracting. That was, and she talked the whole movie because she was like the narrator. And I was like, is this Brianna Chicken Fry? And I wasn't, not in a bad way. I mean, that girl was a good actress. Like, whatever. It was good. But it literally sounded like a fake accent from like the Brie, unplanned Brie. What is that? Brie, planned Brie. Unplanned something. I like Brianna Chicken Fry. I like her. Don't I? I really do. But like, I really thought it was her. And I was like, good for her. Like, damn, she's in this movie with Austin Butler. Like, that's pretty everything. God.

could have played that part easily that's all I was thinking I was like this could easily be me it wasn't there was nothing needed really I could have just been there how do I not get in those movies I don't understand I could have played the gang leader yeah you could have actually you look like him you could have been in it you would have been good

It was just weird. I don't know. Maybe I'm not into biker movies. The only one I liked was the one with Tim Allen. It was like Tim Allen and Ray Liotta. Do you remember that one? That's a very different type of bike movie. But it was still kind of violent. You don't remember? It was Tim Allen, John Travolta, William H. Macy, and Ray Liotta. I think we're in it. I think Mara Lawrence was in it too, actually. Yeah. Yeah, they were like a biker gang. They were so good. I love that movie. I don't know what it's called. I love that movie. I don't know what it's called. I know. Why can't I?

Why can't I think of it? Oh, man, it was so good, though. But yeah, I think in general, I don't get the biker culture. Don't come for me, though. I mean, Mike Feist and I was so random. Was he a biker in it? No, he was like a reporter. Yeah, he was a photographer. He was a real life photographer. I did a deep dive. A real life photographer named Danny Lyon who did a book about bikers. And he wanted to play him because he said Zinda, I got him into photography. I'm the challenger. So he wanted to play a photographer. Oh, that kind of makes sense.

I guess. Because Zendaya always like runs around. Like she shoots like her own like BTS and she has like a camcorder and she like takes photos and videos herself. Really? That kind of makes sense, yeah. I want to be in a movie with her too. Yeah. I love her. I would love that. I wanted to watch Dune because I wanted to see if Austin Butler talks like, because he talked like Elvis in this movie. So I was like, I wonder if he has this low voice now forever. He does have kind of that. In Dune too? Yes, yeah. That's so weird how it changed. Do you think it really just like he just learned Elvis so much like he can't unlearn it? It kind of gives me...

I feel like there's going to be a secret video of him having his normal voice, but I feel like now when he presents on a red carpet or something, that's his thing. His voice. Kind of like you see the stuff with Ariana where people were coming for her for her voice going deep and high. I feel like Austin Butler is like that too, but he just hasn't been caught with his normal voice. That could be. I think in Ariana's defense. I think Ariana said that she speaks up there to save her voice. Yeah. I didn't understand why people were like,

trying to like come for her yeah I was like oh she slipped like that I feel like she's always gone from like low to high and I feel like people in general have different voices like I feel like here my voice is gayer and then like when I'm at the gym or something I use my like straight like guy voice and then like you know I feel like that's normal like it just changes yeah no for sure I definitely don't talk like this either and I feel like when I meet people and I'm like not talking 5,000 miles an hour they're like are you okay is there something wrong

You know what I mean? So I agree. I think it's weird when people are like, okay, they're two different voices. But it was kind of funny. It's just funny to see because she was kind of low and then she goes, but anyways, and then I was like, it's funny, I guess. It's cute, yeah. That's why I'm like, it's like,

funny and like cute like i think it's cute that like she went to like glinda yeah yeah i think that's fun but i feel like austin butler like his voice just seems like that's his voice like i think because he went from like not elvis to like elvis and then now it's just elvis forever yeah which i love i appreciate but but people's voices change like people do change their voices depending on who they're around and stuff like that so i guess i wonder if we like met with a dialect coach and like practice like who do we want to sound like i don't even know what i want to sound like i want to sound like bridgerton

I love the British accent. I know I didn't like British people before. This is what I'm saying. I didn't like British people four months ago, but now I love British people. See, that's just... I love the way they... That's just strange. I love the way they talk. I love Irish accents. I love Nicola's Irish... Because Nicola has an Irish accent when she's, like, in the second season. And I'm like, oh, I kind of like that, too. So I like...

I don't know. You've been redeemed, all the English people. Yeah, you guys are back in my good graces. I was like, ooh. Australia is still dicey. I don't like Australia. Is that Harry Jowsey's from Australia? Yeah, I don't like him. They need to make a show. Yeah. Who? From Australia. Some kind of a show that will make up for it. That you will get into. Oh, nothing. Yeah. Even that Cindy Sweeney movie couldn't do it for me. Nothing appeals to me about Australia. Yeah.

Nothing. I don't want to go there. Troye Sivan. Is he Australian? Is he Australian? Or New Zealand? I always get it mixed up. Never call an Aussie a Kiwi. Troye Sivan. Where's he from? Australia? I didn't even know he had an accent. You didn't know Troye Sivan had an accent? In the Idol, he talks American. Oh, he is Australian. Oh.

Okay. Does that make you understand? Well, no, I'm over him too because I feel like I've been pleading for him and I get... He's given you nothing? No repost even. Sabrina reposts everyone. Troy never... I guess I haven't done... I did a Troy song. Nothing. I get nothing. Sabrina didn't give you anything? No, she reposts everybody. I think even when I was on Cancel Brooks, like, yeah, Sabrina reposted me. I was like, wow. Yeah, I was like...

Sabrina has not never posted me and I'm done. Sabrina's not a sexist. You know, and again, this is what I'm saying. You kind of just come to terms with it. It's kind of like what William said. She can never be friends with like celebrities because no one likes her or whatever and I get it. You know, I'm kind of right there, whatever. But I feel like, yeah, Sabrina probably like secretly is like just so annoyed. Like, you know when you hate someone and they like just like love you?

like and you're just kind of like no like i don't like you like don't like my music you know what i mean i feel like maybe she's just afraid to i feel like she because she is such a like a like a sarcastic like she's a pretty like smart ass you know yeah but you sell the brand but i feel like people are afraid they're like oh i don't know if i should like people don't know the yeah narrative and sabrina's not a very like online girl in general like right she's online for work stuff but not for like you know yeah she might not even reposting i kind

think that's because yeah the people who run social i mean so many people who run people social media so i was like oh not even okay so maybe that's it yeah we'll like to we'll go with that i think that's very common honestly i was surprised even olivia rodrigo recognized you that one time when um she did yeah it was like that my name is trisha she commented on one of those a tiktok what'd you say um i think she just commented omg ha ha ha ha ha

Let's get her on. Easy. We just talked about Rodrigo. Why did you bring her up the other day? You just brought her up to me. We were talking about, we're appreciating, I want to say it right. Chapel. Chapel. Chapel Roan. You called her Chappelle Roan. I did at first too. Yeah. The first time I mentioned her on this podcast, just because I guess Dave Chappelle, I guess I'm like, oh, it must be Chappelle. Yeah. But yeah. Chapel. Chapel.

So, yeah, she was like we were... I watched the whole thing about how... Where she started and how she became who she was. She was like... They call it like a 10-year overnight success. Yeah. So, anyway. So, it's a good story about Never Give Up. But where was the Leverett Rico mention? Wasn't she opening for her? Yeah. But didn't you say she... You had a connection though. Yes, they're opening, but... So, her producer...

She got signed for a label. She had a producer put out an album. The label dropped her. That producer, the next album was the first of Olivia Rodrigo, which was the biggest album ever. So she just watched the same producer produce the biggest album right after her.

Then he found out that she got dropped and then he got in touch with her. They got reconnected somehow. And he believed in her and he brought her to open for Olivia Rodrigo. And that's kind of how she came back on the scene. And then he opened a little small label just to sign her up because he wanted to bring her back.

And yeah. Shout out Dan. Yeah. Is that his name? You know him? Oh, you knew the story? Oh. I didn't know the story. I just know his name. I don't know the whole story. Shout out Dan. I heard she has like Sabrina Carpenter featuring on her album. You don't think it's real? I don't know yet because people are saying like, oh, Katy Perry's album has Lana Del Rey and Sabrina Carpenter and Sabrina Carpenter's album has Taylor Swift and all these people. And then, I don't know. It's all over the place. But, um,

Yeah. I mean, even if Chapel doesn't come on, at least she has recognized you. We love her. It was a possibility. It was. I love if it's like ice spice forever. Just give me a little inkling. I hope that she's like, here's my manager's number. I love it. And it's totally understandable too just because they both like just blew up like exponentially like beyond like comprehension. Chapel's on the freaking Tonight Show, you know. Yeah. I was like, it's done. It's a done deal. When I reply, they'll be like, listen, I know that...

Things have changed, but in case she's still interested. Yeah. Did you say that? That's going to be my response. Okay. I like that. I like that. I think even she, I mean, she also, obviously we talked about it, like how she grew too fast, too big, but I feel like for her, it's a good,

thing to come back you know like to do the things for the people to do the things that will make her feel like life hasn't changed that much she can still come here this is a good thing for her to come on here yeah it's like when hannah like when miley cyrus in the hannah montana movie went back to like her roots you know the country show you know it's very come back but then her parents got divorced and he married someone half his age and now they're getting divorced again so

What happened here? We promise you. Save space. The Cyrus family is drama. They should have a reality show. They honestly should. I'm surprised. I guess maybe Miley doesn't want anything to do with it, but. I don't blame her. Poor thing. I feel bad. It's like the Addison Rae too. It's like you're the star and then your family around you is just being a mess. And it's like, can you just let me? Get it together. Yeah. Like I am a Grammy award winner. Like this is embarrassing.

It is embarrassing. Addison Rae is making a comeback soon too, right? Is she making new music? Really? I thought she teased it. I saw a video of her teasing music where she was walking on the bottom of her pool in heels. Did you see that? How was she staying down? That's what I was wondering too. That's wild. Just like we did. We were holding weights. We had to hold sandbags to keep ourselves down.

Yeah, she tweeted on June 16th. It was like, it had some music to it. Here, I'll show you a little video. I love Addison Rae. Look, she's like walking. Whoa, okay. I guess she's pushing herself down. I don't know. That is so odd. Maybe the shoes have weights in them.

Oh, T, maybe that's it. Because we do that for ours. I don't know. I mean, it's fierce, but wow. So when Addison, when you're ready, Addison to promote the new project. Please. I want Addison above anyone else. Zendaya, Brittany, Mike Feist, don't care. I want,

Addison Rae. I do. I love her. I think she's so fun. I think she's so camp. I love that she keeps going. And she's the icon. She's the queen of our generation. She is going to save pop music and movies and television and all of it. And she's playing like it low key right now, right? Like I don't really see much of her right now. She's waiting for the big comeback. That's what I want to do. When I have a big comeback, I want to like get all quiet and then all of a sudden be like, oh, there's Trish. You know what I mean? Usually when it's quiet, it means she's working on something. Yeah. Like suddenly there'll come a new album or movie. I like it. James Charles' new song. No. No.

I thought it was fake. Like, I thought everything about that was fake. I showed it to her. Yeah. She thought it wasn't real. I was like, I think it's real. Jimmy sent it to me. I'm like, how did I not see this? I didn't see that. Well, I didn't even see that in the text that day when Tana was here. And then he showed me. I was just like...

that's not that's not real and then i was like and then everything about it was real the song the water like everything i was confused because i saw a video of harry daniels running up to james charles saying something about like giving him water or something and i was like what reference is this and then jimmy sent me a tweet that was like james announcing his like music and i was like and it was i he sent it to me the james posted this tweet like a week before and i was like how did i miss this like i am always like

Pretty online. And I didn't see James. I didn't see it either. I hadn't seen it. It was so weird. I think I have it blocked everywhere, James Charles. So I don't see it. Because I was like, this is very odd and very specific. I did not know. I had it as my Hot Topic. But I think it was only because it was my first Hot Topic. You know when you're like, I got to think of Hot Topic for next week. It's like bottom of the barrel. Yeah. So I didn't ask. Sabrina Carpenter got, not canceled, but like some drama, I guess. Because of her cosplaying as a barista.

Which I was like... Yeah, this happens a lot. We see rich D'Amelio's. Yeah. I kind of... I don't know. Obviously, I have a soft spot for Sabrina. But to me, it wasn't her cosplaying. To me, it was her doing a meet and greets to promote her espresso that she had at that coffee place. Yeah, it makes more sense because she has a song espresso. It's cute. It's like a little cute thing. Why are people upset? They're like, oh, it's like the same with the Charlie D'Amelio cosplaying as a minimum wage employee. But I don't think she was. I think...

She was collaborating with that coffee shop and the coffee shop was excited to have her and she like was doing a meet and greet promoting it. I don't think she was sitting there trying to like, you know, make the dreams or take money or something. Right? It's funny that people get mad.

that because it's not, again, it's not like... Is the coffee shop like a Starbucks or a small business? It's a smaller coffee shop. So then if she supports small business, then it's a different story. It's not like she's doing a Starbucks commercial. It's called Blank Street in London. Blank Street Coffee Shop. Do people get mad because it's like appropriation? Like you're...

I think it's people get mad. It's like, oh, like you're a rich person, like pretending that you need to like work this job or whatever. But I don't think that's obviously that that wasn't the intent. Even with Charlie's, I thought it was a little like blown out of proportion. Like I get why people are upset, but.

Like, at the end of the day, it's like, you know, Walmart wanted or they're promoting those snacks that are at the Walmart store. You know what I mean? It's like... Yeah. Yeah. Because it's authentic to Sabrina because she's doing espresso, right? Maybe it's not authentic to the Emilio's because they never talked about, like, loving Walmart before. True, yeah. You know what I mean? Like, I love Domino's and I would give anything to actually deliver pizzas to people's houses. Like, that would be so iconic. And I love Domino's. I've always loved Domino's. So that, like, makes sense.

And for Sabrina, I think it makes sense because like you said, it's espresso. So like she's at a coffee shop. And it's like she has her own Sabrina drink at this coffee shop. Yeah. So yeah, that I don't see an issue. Yeah.

I think the D'Amelio's, too, were being, like, a little, like, I don't know. It was a little over the top for sure. Yeah, yeah. Especially Walmart. I feel like, obviously, the working conditions in a Walmart are very different. Like, it's just harder there. You know what I mean? Yeah. So, and also, I'll never forget the bob hair flick from Charlie when she was bagging the groceries. I think she just went overboard. Like, at least Sabrina was just there. She was meeting the fans. She was handing them the drink. But she wasn't, like, trying to pretend to make it or, like, counting change. You know? It was like...

If she was just there to be cute and, like, say hi. But, like you said, even with Walmart, I think they're probably, like, happy that Amelia's are there because it's, like, getting attention to their brand. Yeah. So, I get it. Kind of. Yeah. Look at this one. I don't know. I think it's, like, there's maybe, like, nothing...

People really like to get upset at pop stars these days, which is like why? It's that build up to bring them down, right? Isn't that everything? It's like when you get so famous, it will get. It's very the Taylor Swift effect. Every time I mentioned Taylor on the podcast, I get scared. I'm like the Swiftie phobia is like crazy. I'm like can't wear my Eros merch ever. Really? They get mad? I think I'm just scared in general because everyone's just like, especially like this past week or two because like.

Charlie XCX's fans were, like, very upset at, like, Taylor Swift. It was, like, a whole debacle. Because Taylor... Okay, in the UK, when Charlie dropped Brat, the album, she was, like, kind of close-ish to being number one. And then Taylor dropped, like, new random-ass, like, deluxe versions of the album with, like, voice memos or something. And everyone's like, oh, she's trying to block Charlie from being number one on the charts. But then...

People ran with that, but Taylor would have been number one just regardless, just because she's in the UK right now performing. So, like, she had an increase in sales. Like, her making these random deluxe albums didn't make a difference. But Charli XC has had to release a statement yesterday, actually, because people would go to, like, her DJ sets, and they were chanting, like, death to Taylor Swift, death to Taylor Swift. Jesus. And she said, if anyone is tweeting this or saying this on my show, it's like, please stop. Like, this is not...

It's so intense. People are so over. Is this Twitter people? I think it's just the stans and then the stans get in real life places and then like are bringing that stan energy. Damn. It's just too much. Like in the real world, like stan culture isn't, it's just too much. Too much. It's too much. And everyone's a Swifty these days, including Tana. She's a Swifty. She had me listen to this. That's wild. Wasn't that crazy? She like listened to this song on the way over. I was like, okay, listen, I actually kind of loved it. What was it? I Can Do It With A Broken Heart. Yeah, that is. Kind of a slight. Yeah. I like Taylor. I really liked...

her boyfriend on stage last night. I would love to just be... The only reason I really want to lose weight is so Moses can carry me. Like, when he carried her, it's like, one day I'd just love to be carried by my boyfriend. You know what? Or my husband. Not my boyfriend. You know, just to be carried effortlessly like that. That's, like, my dream. Have you ever been carried by a boyfriend? Not a boyfriend. Oh, who? Who carried you? Just a random? I had hooked up with someone once who was just large. Like, he was just a big guy. And he picked you up? Actually, when I was...

I was skinny. Now I'm remembering. Like that? It did. You know what? Now you unlock the memory. I'm like, wow, I did feel teeny tiny because it happened a few times actually. What? I'm so jealous. When I hooked up with a personal trainer, not mine, but he worked at the same gym and he also was like, I was...

Especially because I was like kind of still body dysmorphic and I was being thrown around. I was like, wow. Oh, during sex. Yeah, like hooking up. They didn't carry you like over a threshold. Not romantically, no. Not like the Taylor. Wait, but did they pick you up like this? Because one time I've been picked up during that, but I mean. I carried you in our music video.

It was tough though and I felt bad. But actually, it wasn't because I carried you. We would, you know, we would test it out before here at home and it was easy. But in the music video, I wore a coat, like a really heavy coat and you had a dress that was really slippery. But it wasn't effortless. No, it was hard to grab on, not to carry you. That part was easy.

want to be so light we filmed shot after shot after shot it was but we would be here in the gym and i was just like swoop you up carry you okay but i want you to carry me up the stairs like when you carry malibu up when she's sleeping in the car i want to be able to that like me next you know what i mean just carry me up those stairs because that i just need to be i don't know what do you think 150 pounds you could do that no you just no more than that don't say you can do that but i'm saying like i can do it it doesn't have to be that crazy that's

I just want to be skinny and I was like, I'm going to be lifted. Just like carried in the house or something. You know what I mean? Yeah. Like, especially because Taylor's like a tall girl. So seeing like someone humongous just like scooping her up like nothing. I was like, damn. And did he like shake her? Is that part of the show? He's like shaking her? It's for that song that I can do with the broken heart. It's like...

The song before she's like has a broken heart and then she's like whatever yes like bring her back to life basically Oh, she's dead when he picks her up. Yeah, so he like makes her come back to life to perform for everyone whatever It's like very theatrical. Her vibe is very theater kid. It's like which is so weird cuz she's not a theater kid, right? I think she do musical theater. It's very you coded We're like back in the day like never like the starring role really but like she was like a good voice um

I've been back. It's taken a while for her to get a good listening, I think. But anyway. Really? Oh, okay. Tee.

People are going to be so... It's always so... Anytime you mention Taylor, it's like, I'm just so sick of Taylor. I'm like, but I get it. The striptophobia is wild. She's in the news because she was at London. Everyone was... Hugh Grant. Prince William. Everyone's freaking there, you guys. Like, what can we... What am I supposed to do? Yeah, you gotta talk about it. Yeah. Talk about it. But going back to the Charlie Stanworth thing, to be honest, I feel like I also love Charlie. I've loved her for a long time since her first EP. Yeah.

Growing up, becoming an adult, the best thing about it is now I just listen to what I want and I don't think too much about it. I'm not...

one artist and be like, oh, like this, she's going to top the charts. Like she's going to show, I'm streaming Taylor. Like she's going to show Charlie. Like she's going to be number one. Like I don't think about that stuff. Yeah. It just doesn't matter. Yeah. It's not even kids. It's like adults. Really? It's like in their 20s. Yes. Okay. Well, 20s is kids to me. Yeah. They treat it like sports team. Like they think our team needs to win. We need to be number one. And yeah.

Yeah. That's why I never understood sports either. That's really weird. Those are like actual grown men being like so pissed about a game. That's even worse. Yeah. This is like cute stands, whatever. Yeah. It's just like it's never that serious. Like I love listening to like Charlie and then Taylor and then Olivia and then Sabrina and then like Chloe and Halle or Normani. Who's Chloe and Halle? You know Chloe and Halle. Halle Bailey. Oh, Chloe and Halle. Yeah. Okay. Yes. I didn't know they were a duo but okay. I love that. Yeah.

It's like, I love just listening to whatever and not thinking too much. Like, it's just not that serious. I don't think I know. I don't think I've ever heard a Charlie song. You were just in the music video for Girls So Confusing. Oh, my God. You sent me that.

know what this means. I know. I was like, you just have to post it. Did it go viral? Did I get traction? It got a lot of likes. It got like over 100,000 views. People liked it. The Bratz and the Angels and the girls having Bratz summers enjoyed it. Wait, what? Angels and Bratz? Angels are Charlie's fans and then... Oh, cute. That's cute. Charlie's Angels. Okay. Maybe I need to... Okay. I like that song then. That song was a catch. It was cute. Yeah. It's all about just being the trials and tribulations of girlhood. I do love that. Yeah. Okay. So that was her song on the thing. Uh-huh.

I was very confused. Yeah, and then Lorde did the remix. Yeah. It was a whole thing. Yeah. It's a hot summer. I might be having a brat summer in, like, my own way. You know what I mean? I don't know. What is it? Like, to me, being, like, having a brat summer is just, like...

I'm having fun. I'm here having a brat summer. Meanwhile, everyone's really at pride being wild poppers kissing strangers. You know what I mean? Yeah, yeah, yeah. This is our brat summer. I'm having a brat summer on the brat diet. I'm doing rice and toast. What else is there? What else is on the brat diet? Bananas. Wait, is this a real thing? Are you making it up? Yeah. Tana had to be on it because she has IBS. Did you not listen to the Canceled podcast? Oh, okay.

I don't think it's out yet. I don't think it's out. No. Spoiler alert. Spoiler alert. She's on the breath because she has IBS on the tour. Oh, did I say that earlier? I was like, oh, I just talked about this on cancel. It's fine. Probably fine, I guess. I don't know. It doesn't matter. There's nothing groundbreaking. Maybe there's something groundbreaking. I don't know. That's so funny. Yeah. She's on the breath diet because she has irritable bowel syndrome. So she was like, yeah, she can only eat like rice, banana, toast, whatever.

Because she had to go to the bathroom all the time during the canceled tour. So she's really having a brat summer. Literally. I don't know the other parts of the diet, but...

should actually go on that diet maybe i don't know how much longer i can eat grapefruit for the rest of my life i'm going to have grapefruit just do the rice water whatever that is that's not a real thing but what is it rice water rice and pig this is another trend on tiktok you put rice into water and it makes you skinny you drink those water that the rice is soaked in oh yeah it sounds nasty it sounds like something i don't want to do i'd rather have popcorn out of wolverine's mouth

When does that come out? Is it his mouth or his other side? His mouth. But then you can put whatever you want in there. Moses ordered me popcorn at the movie theater with butter. Did you do that on purpose? I feel like... She asked with butter. I said yes. I wasn't planning to eat much of it. I don't know. Oh, you don't like butter? He doesn't like butter. Oh. But he had it and I was like, I was so excited. But then I was like, he never orders butter. But yeah, he didn't have any.

That's why I don't like going to movies with you. You're just such a, he's like, I'll just have a Coke. We went to the movies after lunch. We ate lunch. Doesn't mean you, I still have popcorn. I still ate popcorn. I was like so hungry for that popcorn. We sat in the seat, and this sounds so stupid, but we sat in the seats where the button doesn't work. So we couldn't get our service. So Moses had to walk out. But then he found someone and like, oh, just scoot over to these seats and this button works. And I was like, okay. And I was like, no, I'm going to get up. It's so great too. Cause he pushed the button and they just come. And that's a, that's a great theater. That's a good vibe. I wish we saw a good movie.

Hate like going to movie and not liking the movie and I thought there's nothing really coming out that you would be that in nothing No, no, you know just in Wiccan in the fall. That's it. Yeah, there's nothing really like super Trish coated over the summer Definitely no superhero movies, but I will take that bucket. They need to do Bridgerton the movie. Oh

yeah. Right. Or Bridgerton the musical. They had one on TikTok that everyone was doing. I could be. I heard that was like a whole fiasco. Didn't they get sued? Yeah. Yeah. I remember it was so popular. It's like so this is what you call a honeymoon. Pacing around in our separate rooms. And now watching Bridgerton I was like oh now it makes sense. But yeah I guess they got sued because they like people were making it into like an actual musical and then. Yeah. They tried to put it on or something. Yeah. Yeah. I don't

I don't know why Netflix shut it down. I feel like they were going to make so much money off of it. They acted like it was going to be on Broadway or something like that, but it was really weird. I think they were just really marketing it as like an official Bridgerton thing. Oh, really? Well, that was dumb on their part. Bridgerton inspired. You're always going to add just inspired or something. Or, yeah, like Michael's, like I told you, has all the Bridgerton stuff, but it's not called Bridgerton. It's like a blue, like Victorian era. I think same with Bath and Body Works too, I think. Yeah, they just like don't actually say what it is. Like it's a B and a diamond on there. I was like, okay. Yeah.

That was a wild season. Season two is the best season. You guys should watch that one. That one's a really good season. I love that you were fully on the Bridgerton kick. I mean, at least, unlike Bike Riders, Bridgerton is culturally significant. It's number one by far of the streaming shows. Bike Riders could never. No. I think if I was in the movie, they probably would have been number one this weekend. It would have been Inside Out. Yeah. I don't know why Inside Out doesn't appeal to me. I don't know.

I just feel like I deal enough with emotions and therapy. It's like I don't really need to watch a movie about it. Yeah. I was like apprehensive to see it because I'm like, oh my God, I don't want to be depressed. Yeah. Because all those Pixar movies, they're cute, but they make me think too much. I'm like, oh my God, I don't want to think about, you know. There's that too, right? Spoiler in the first one, they said someone says the emotions die or something. Oh, this one wasn't really, this one was more about like growing up, like having anxiety and knowing how to cope with your anxiety and stuff like that. Okay. I don't know. Cute. I like it. It was fine enough, but.

I can't watch cartoons. No, I got it. Disney princesses. We do enough Coco Mellon every day where I'm just like, I do not need cartoons. This morning we're on Lion King. Lion King gig. Oh. Northwest. So there's a song where they lift up the. Oh, yeah. And she kept wanting to be lift up. She was the little. Oh, no. Oh, this all morning. I was just like, we're watching it. And when he left the car. What song is that when they do that?

It's the big one. It's like the... Circle of Life? Yeah, Circle of Life. Circle of Life. That's cute. You should have filmed it. We'll do it for you again. Okay, that's cute. I didn't get to see that. She'll be headlining the Hollywood Bulls Lion King production in like a couple years. Next year. She'll be two and a half doing it. That's actually...

I know we try to find movies to like, she loves Sound of Music, so I'm trying to find other ones. We watched Wizard of Oz the other day and she's, that one's kind of wild actually, Wizard of Oz. Like those, they call them munchkins in the movie. I know that's not politically correct now, but they call them munchkins and like they're kind of, like their hair is, they have like plastic hair and kind of like they put scary like faces on them, like scary like makeup and stuff. And it's like, kind of like scary movie to watch a little bit. It's a little frightening, but just in general. And then the witch coming with like the fire and it was just, it was a lot. Yeah.

I was like, is this what Wicked is based off of? I'm like, kind of, actually. It technically is. Because you said you never saw Wizard of Oz. Not that one. Like, I must have seen a different, you know. I don't know if there's another one. Maybe you saw The Wiz with Michael Jackson. Because maybe there's many versions of it, but not that one. Like cartoons and yeah. Oh, okay. Maybe. Yeah, you're right. Maybe you want that. Yeah.

You could vary. Yeah, I mean, that's true. There's probably like, you know, yeah, maybe that. I don't know. Isn't there one that Mel Brooks is the Wizard of Oz or something? No, I'm a Mel Brooks fan. There's no Wizard of Oz with Mel Brooks. I mean, maybe I'm wrong, but what? In what movie? No. I love Mel Brooks. Can we get him on? I know we always talk about him, but... I know. I have a memory that when they actually see the wizard, it's him. Oh, not in the Wizard of Oz? Not that. That's 1939. No, a version of the movie. Oh, I don't know. So...

Obviously, like, Nara's been pretty infamous now. By the way, I think at the beginning when we first started talking about her, I was, like, I was not, like, pro Nara. I think I was more, like, cautious about her because I was, like, what is she really about? Like, is this for real? Especially because, like, Lucky is, like, I don't know. Lucky already had a baby and stuff and he's so young. And I was, like, what is going on here? But now I'm, like, fully on board. And she's young, too, right? Yeah, she also is super young. Yeah, you have three kids at the same time.

Are they Mormon? She's 23? Yeah, I believe so. She's not Mormon. He is. He is, yeah. Lucky is 22. Wait, what? No, Nara is 22. How old is Lucky? I think around the same. And he had his first kid when he was like just turned 18. Oh my God. They're young. That's crazy. They're both very good looking.

Oh, Lucky's a little bit. He's 26 now. And so when I, so I, when I interned for a modeling agency, like I worked for his like original manager. I was in the men's department, which was fun. But anyway, I now remember Lucky was like the big, he was like just coming up. I think he was 16 at the time and he was like the big, like one to watch or whatever. Um,

But now his manager also reps Nara. So now I'm like, maybe I should... And we still follow each other. So maybe I should be like, ooh, does Nara want to come on this show? I love Nara. Me too. I came around on her because now she's just so trolly that it's like... Yeah. It's like you got to have a laugh. What was she making in the white feather? Remember she had like a big feather outfit and she was making like... Was it the bubblegum one?

Might have been, yeah. Because I think Tana was talking to me about this. And then I did a deep dive and I was just like, oh my God, she's actually trolling. Yeah, because she's been making ridiculous stuff. I love it. She's been making the cheese. She made lasagna, but she did the cheese herself. Yeah. She made it on mozzarella or whatever. So extra. Yeah. Just had a baby. And I feel like she's just upping the ante more and more. I love it. So now I think she gets the vibe. It's like...

She's self-aware and it's all like, it's a key. Yeah. I think it's so ridiculous in camp that it's like, how can you not like be into it? No, I know. I feel that way too. I just like love her vibe. I buy stuff. She's like an actual influencer to me because I like literally buy stuff if I see it. Her plates. The plates. And I'm good friends with that guy. No,

not good friends but we DM each other he sent me the artist that made the plate he's like I'll send you more plates I'm like yes Gustav Westman is his name I love him he's so sweet he's always like ASMR vibe too I feel like you got wet yeah you guys should do like ASMR I would be she's I think I get really intimidated by really pretty girls like that like models I just I like don't know how to even function because like when they're like so pretty thin and I just I don't think I get like I don't know it's weird I do think I I have that maybe where was I I've

myself to be like more nervous around girls so I was like maybe we're like leaning into like lesbian side because I feel like you know what I mean like I feel like guys I like don't care like whatever like if it's a you know I find guys attractive and hot obviously but it's just like girls I actually get nervous and like I stutter I can't talk about anything I did but I did do a project with like this actual beautiful

girl. Like she was just so pretty and so skinny and so beautiful and so famous at that too. But I was just like looking at her and I like, like I couldn't speak. Um, she's asking me like personal questions and stuff like that, like about my life. And I, I literally like forgot. And I like, and I kept thinking like, I don't know what it was. Like I forgot. Like she'd be like, Oh, how did you meet your husband? And I like, I forgot. So then I

kind of caught myself like making up a story but I was like but if I don't want to make up a story because what if we become friends and she like you know what I mean like and I was like I don't know and then asking my kids' names I forgot like I was like actually forgetting and I was like it was only because she was like so beautiful and so perfect like literally flawless and

I couldn't stop staring. And I've never felt like that with a guy. I've never like stuttered over my words. Never once. And I think we were talking about this in Bridgerton. There's a scene when Jonathan Bailey comes out of the water and both the girls are just staring. And I was like, that's so unrealistic. I've never stared at a guy. I've never stared at a guy's body. I've never been like, body. You know what I mean? But girls, like I actually have like, I literally catch myself staring and I'm just like, I don't know. It's like really weird. So then I was trying to think. I'm like, I don't know. Maybe I like suppressed...

exploring more girl stuff because like I was like, oh, I'm just not good at having sex with girls or whatever. So maybe that's it. But I'm like, maybe, I don't know. Anyways, that's a whole other thing. But then I was having this like crisis because I was thinking like, maybe I'm like more attracted to girls because I've never once found a guy who,

attractive off the bat like it has to be like their personality or something that draws me in but girls I've always found how interesting and I've always been like kind of like a hater on girls like my life I was never like a girl's girl until like a few years ago I was definitely like I don't like girls girls are jealous girls are whatever and then I was like maybe I was like pushing it away or something or suppressing it because when I saw this girl I was just like I was like dying I was like kind of gagging and we had to do like a stunt and whatever and I was doing like the stunt and like I just didn't want to like

embarrass myself in front of her. Like, I was like, I'm going to just do it. How interesting. Yeah. It was a really, yeah, it was very conflicting. I was like, this is so odd. And yeah. So that's a whole other thing. But I think I would just be, I don't know. Sometimes I just see a body and I'm just like, wow, you are so beautiful. Not that she's, she's more than her body, but yeah, she is very beautiful. I think I get like trepidations around, like whenever someone is just like, so like,

actually with girls pretty girls I love I'm like because I feel like I'm one of them in a weird way I'm like oh like we're girls you know what I mean yeah but like around pretty guys I feel like I get

not because I'm like attracted to them it's more of like an insecurity thing I'm like oh my god I'm like the ugly one in this group you know what I mean like whenever I had like whenever I was in like West Hollywood and I'd be in the group of friends of like the cute gays I'd be like oh god you know there's always that one in the group that's like I always felt like I was that one you know I think you have a complex because your friend said you were ugly no I 100% have a complex but he was like hot

And, like, obviously, like, you're not. But I would. I would. If someone, like, literally was, like, you're so ugly, I'd be, like, you know? Because you know you're not ugly. You never forget it. Yeah. Right. But I think that's what me was, like, fat. Because, like, people in my real life have called me fat before. I'm, like, wow, I'm, like, fat. I'm, like, gross. You know what I mean? So I think you hear it once and it's, like, clicks forever. It's, like, always...

yeah because you definitely are not but i know well especially back then i had a lot working against me so i you know course corrected a bit but anyway yeah that trauma response yeah i guess i might have been insecure as like maybe when i was younger but maybe it was more like i was attracted to i don't know so i was like pushing it away yeah yours sounds more like yeah like almost like the playground like crushy like yeah and i was like maybe i suppress it yeah but

But I definitely was not good at having intercourse with girls. So I thought that's why I shouldn't be a lesbian. And I was like, well, maybe I'm not good at it. As opposed to guys, I'm not good either. But guys do all the work. So I'm just like, that's easier. Girls, you have to both put the effort in. In my experience, I was like, I'm so sorry. I can't give back. Same thing with guys. I'm just like, I don't know. I can just lay here. Yeah, then do what you must. Figure it out. It's interchangeable to me. Well, Nara got into some controversy, which is kind of...

out of left field. I don't know. I didn't really expect her to get into much controversy, but yeah, another TikToker, um, she's from South Africa. Um, and her name is a Neswa. She recently like claimed that Nara was copying her, which is the whole story is a little bizarre because back in February, um, people were commenting on her Tik Tok saying like, there are a lot like Nara's. And then she like issued a statement saying like,

we are not the first ones to, like, do this type of cooking or whatever because she's another one where she lives on a farm so she sources everything herself. She does, like, the soft speaking. It's, like, all the crazy steps to make, like, a simple meal, you know? But she's, like, actually, like, on a farm. She, like, lives in a village, like,

she's like growing it herself. Yeah. She's like showing the animals and stuff that she. Which I feel very different already from Nara's content. Yeah. It's a whole different vibe. Yeah. I don't see Nara like going to milk the cow for the cheese or something. Yeah. Um, so she was getting these comparisons and she issued a statement. Like she was like, look, like I'm not the first one to do these cooking videos. Like I have nothing but love for Nara, blah, blah, blah, blah. But it was back then it was more like, um, um, people were saying like, Oh, like Nara's copying your style, whatever. And then, um,

That was back in February. But then this past week, she claimed that she isn't happy with Nara anymore. She's going to be taking a break from posting because she sees someone doing the exact same things she did. And this all happened because she posted a YouTube video making boba. And then Nara, a couple days later, posted a TikTok where she also made boba from scratch, basically. Oh, I see. So she's like copying. Yes. So she kind of flipped. She did a whole 180. I guess it's true.

if you see it like days after like I definitely believe like most big creators like don't see littler creators like in general like she probably didn't and it's probably common I don't know probably common to me but I guess I would think that too it's kind of like Kim Kardashian right when I like go to Benihana the next day she's there and so you're like I

I think she might be looking. You know, like, and there's, like, a possibility in the world that Kim Kardashian did see that or, like, someone else. Like, we should go to Benihana because that's how you do. You, like, see something on Instagram. You're like, I want to go and get that, too. So, like, maybe. But, like, I could see how she would think that, that Nara would copy her because she's like, wait, this is a little too close to the day I posted mine. Granted, to put that kind of production into TikTok, like, it probably takes a while. Like, I would assume she edits hers for a couple days. Yeah. You know? Yeah.

I don't know. I think so, too. I don't think this turnaround for NARS TikToks is that, like, quick. Because they're a little bit, like, involved, right? Like, hers seemed a little bit more production. I mean, it's made to look like it's not a big production, but just knowing how TikTokers work, it's like that has to have been something, you know? But then, Deswa also tweeted that, an email saying that

basically a cease and desist email to not say that nara's been copying you because it's like damaging and it's defamation and it's harming nara's reputation right if she continues these statements she'll sue or whatever but um nara's team issued a statement to the cut who was doing like an article about the drama and nara's team said like they never sent a cease and desist email that is completely fabricated oh no she's made it up so it that's

That's going to extremes. That's like, really trying to, yeah, like, okay, I write an email. That's like Dear Evan Hansen just like writing emails to each other to make it look real. Have you seen that movie? Not to go off track for a second, but have you seen it? I haven't seen it. I've seen a video of someone reacting to the movie of Dear Evan Hansen. So we're getting right up. You should watch it. It's good. But anyways, it's my favorite soundtrack of the year.

Yeah, that sounds – well, in that movie, he literally is just like – Yeah, the gist. He writes the email. What is this? Someone unalive themselves? They unalive themselves. But he signed his cast for him, so they thought they were really close friends. So he wants to get with the dead guy's sister, so then he fakes emails between them to be like their girlfriend. And Mike Feist actually plays the guy that unalives himself, so he's singing to – it's cute. He wasn't in the movie, which makes me so sad. But if you listen to the cast recording, it's so good. Anyways.

But it's very Dear Evan Hansen, which I kind of like, but also kind of scary. You always think with Evan, you're just kind of like he, you're kind of a weirdo because why did you just fake all of that? That's so weird. About a dead person too. And like, why is she doing this with Nara? Like that's so, that's so extreme. It's very extreme. And scary. Like that's what scares me is that people can just like forge stuff like that, right? People believe it. Yeah. Well, that's true too. Like you could literally be like Trisha. It's tweets, anything like Photoshop. Like there's so many things that you can do now that looks so real. Yeah.

uh-huh and then yeah and then people i didn't know about the nara follow-up you just think well damn that's kind of shady of her to do that like why would you do that you know what i mean too like all her like a nara keeps getting like a lot of comments that are like calling her out for it or the fact that like people are posting like her nara's like early tiktoks because she didn't have like the asmr voice and then they're posting like so after she saw desuel like now her voice is like more asmr but it's also just like a common thing you know it's not like a

I feel like that's common for like those calming like cooking videos or whatever. Yeah. People just talk softer and slower. Like that's a vibe. Yeah, that's kind of everybody doing that. It's like the vibe of it all, which is, yeah. Yeah. I don't like, I hate when people call people out for copying because like I've seen another girl do it saying like, oh, she copied my trend. And then the girl's like, actually, I saw this girl do it first. It's like, also TikTok is just one of those things where people just get influenced by each other. Uh-huh. And things like you said, become trendy. Yeah.

I think it's another one of those things when Nora is so popular so then people just try to like bring it up. And Nora doesn't reply to drama so maybe that girl probably was like well I can just say whatever and like this girl's not gonna reply. Yeah. But I guess they did. Because yeah she hasn't acknowledged anything. But like it's back in the like in February when Adezwa posted like the sweet like

I'll love Tanara. Like, she did respond. But, like, thank you so much. Like, I also, like, love your content, whatever. So, it seemed... It was weird. It was such a 180 because they were, like, allies at one point, you know? And then it just kind of flipped. It's so weird. Either for attention or she, like, genuinely thought that girl, like, stole... But the season assist is weird. Yeah. Yeah. So, that just was, like, you just made it up or what? Because also, like, I think to issue a statement to the cut, like, it's a pretty big publication. So, I don't think they... Her team would lie about it. Like, maybe a no comment if, like...

like yeah i don't think i don't think they would flat out lie interesting so nothing else has been said since no that's the last like update but it is so interesting because yeah like you said like you think normally people are on the side of the smaller influencer and that's like my initial thing too i was like oh this girl lives in a village like she's sort she's on a farm she's doing literally everything herself like obviously like she's in the right but then like that cease and desist got me like wait and then who did it maybe someone just randomly sent it to her like if

maybe she's not involved with it. That actually is a good point. Maybe someone like just like pranked her or something. Yeah. Like trolled her, sent this cease and desist because it sounded like proper, right? Like it has all the legal words. Well, you can also just download like cease and desist like, you know, like send someone. I've had it happen from like people that say they're from David Dobrik or something. They send it to like my email that's public, you know, like, okay, well, it's not obviously, but I mean, that actually is a really good point. Maybe that is a case. Yeah. They're both victims in this. That's true.

Because it's like at the end of the day, I don't know. Like I want to believe that actually because that makes the most sense. Yeah. It would be random for her to like previously be like, oh, like nothing, no hate towards her. Yeah. And then to switch up, you know. And then also just like forge an email. Yeah. Yeah. I don't think so. That seems like too much. Yeah. Yeah. I like that theory. I hope that is the right one. I think it is.

We're a team. Nara and how do you say her name? Adeswa. And Adeswa. I like the name. So we're both team that for now until we see something crazy. Yeah, exactly. Until one of them's a liar. But maybe neither one of them. Maybe it's a third party being sus. Yeah, that makes sense. Like the Ashley Madison. Did you watch that documentary?

No, I've still been on Young Sheldon. I can't stop watching Young Sheldon. Random tangent, role play. I went to go order a Young Sheldon shirt in the same store. I had a Trisha Paytas shirt. Where? In the mall or online? Online. And it was like, buy one, get one 20% off. And I was like, okay. Did you get Trisha Paytas shirt? I did, yeah. What is it? Is it like pink, black? It's like, you know, the typical, it's like all the different faces. Oh, I love that one. Yeah. I know. I was going to buy a Trisha shirt, but he's like, well, we have our merch coming out. So I was like, yeah. I'm like, that's not it.

There was like a Trisha shirt. That was cool. Let me not promote that one. Yeah. No, but we love. Go buy the counterfeit merch too. It was so funny though. Like I guess there was also MatPat on there, I guess. But MatPat's iconic. He was in Five Nights at Freddy's. So it's like young Sheldon, MatPat, Trisha. I was like, that's kind of everything. What size is this? Like Redbubble or something? It was a random like Etsy. Yeah. So I'll have my young Sheldon cosplay. Oh, when are you doing that? Maybe next week. I don't know if it comes in on time. Okay. That would be cute. We'll have a whole cosplay week.

I like it. That's cute. I know I was going to do Chapel for this week. The, you know, her iconic red hair. The tiny desk one. The tiny desk one, yeah. But then I was like, I don't know. I know. We might, I guess we'll see if we have to save it or not. But also she's had a lot of good looks. Oh, there's a ton of pink looks. Yeah, there's a ton of pink looks that I want to do. But that one I thought maybe. Because it's to end Pride. But again, Jeff to end Pride doesn't seem fitting. Like, I feel like we need like Bob the Drag Queen or something. You know what I mean? That sounds like...

I don't know. Do I waste a chaperone cosplay on a Jeff episode? He's not going to get it. I don't want him to be offensive. Well, there is one more. Isn't there one more? Oh, no. Oh, my God. Next week is July? No. And I already have my cosplay for next Monday planned out. Oh, my God. I didn't realize there wasn't another week of June. So I was like, okay, what do I do? I don't know. I have no idea. I love you doing a big gay cosplay for Jeff. That is so funny. I know. So I was like, no.

But it's our last June, and I don't know. And he's going to be gay-coded, so. But then I was like, but I don't know. Maybe I should just be normal me, and he can be that. I think that's what it is. I think that's like, I don't know. I'll just wear a Just Trish shirt with like a pink bob or something. That seems, I don't know. Maybe just have the rainbow Birkin in the corner. Okay, perfect. That's enough. Done. Okay, because I kind of got a little stressed. I was like, wait. I had a whole outfit planned. Okay, I'll save chapel for another day because I don't want to waste it on Jeff. Okay.

It's in my head. It's too funny. Well, today is the day the music died. Yes. Four years ago. So today is the anniversary, June 25th, of Jenna Marbles canceling herself. Really? Crazy. Crazy. I mean, respect though. I can't wait for the day to just cancel myself and be like, you know, not die, but just like take a break. Bye, Paul.

But I probably will never take a break. The most bizarre thing about all that, one, like, yeah, she canceled herself because, like, nobody was trying to cancel her. But two, it's like, what is she doing? I know. Like, what's her day today? And she must not leave the house because in the instance that she does, we saw it one time. Like, she was at a mall and someone took a picture with her and she was, like, fine to take a picture. So it's like, she must not leave that much because I feel like we would see so many more pictures of her out. Yeah, but...

It's just crazy because four years, like, you'd think there would be more, especially as it keeps, like, getting longer. Like, isn't the mystery, like...

getting bigger. But also maybe like people love Jenna so much so maybe people also just like respect. Like maybe they see her and like talk to her and take a photo but they're not like blasting it everywhere maybe just because... I have a hard time thinking that. I don't know. Well, her fans just have like such a like respect for her. Totally. Especially if she's like, oh, if she maybe says like, oh, I'm just trying to be like low-key or something. I don't know. She has to be going out. I don't think so. Because I think...

Julian, they're married now. I think he's just like a streamer all day. He does stream. And I do remember recently, a couple months ago, he had to like censor his Instagram comments or something just because he was getting like spammed with like people asking about Jenna or whatever. And it just became like too much. So I think at some point he had to like filter his comments for a minute just because it was like just getting like flooded with like bullshit.

Jenna, how's Jenna? Whatever. And obviously she's trying to be like more low key. I think people have said before, I remember we talked about it a long time ago, like in a Patreon episode, people said that they've like heard her in the background of Julian streams or something before. So she's around, you know, she's alive. I mean, that's a lot. Cause that is so scary too. It's like the Kate Middleton of it all. It's like, are you alive though? Like that's so weird. Cause like to be gone completely, like,

And when you were that much of an influencer and she seemed to like to do it, I mean, she must not. She must not like to do it. She must have been just over it. She must have been like, I'm done with it. I know, it is. Because no one canceled her. She made one, what was it, like an Asian joke or something a long time ago and no one was canceling for it. She was like, I apologize, that was so dumb. I don't even know if it was a joke, was it? Yeah, there was one video where she had an Asian accent and then there was one where she spoofed Nicki Minaj and she put a bunch of fake tanner on herself. So it was stuff that like,

battling was insensitive in retrospect but no one was like ooh like that Jenna you know what I mean I was like I think people like oh Jenna like this was a little like maybe like not the best or whatever you know what I mean but summer 2020 everyone was really coming it was the summer of cancellations yeah that was like the Shane and I think Jeffrey James yes you me me cancelling myself just be like I'm inserting myself in this drama like

I think I jumped that summer to OF so people just didn't care. Like, oh, she's, like, done. She's, like, oh, I was, I guess, making content about Tati, apparently. So. It was, I think, also, too, because even you in your Tati's Dumbest Health video, you're, like, I'm home and I'm bored. So I think that was also people just going back and, like, looking at old stuff and then being, like, this was actually, like, messed up in retrospect. Well, they really were because I think because of Shane, too. Like, people just going through old, like, everybody's everything. Like, that's just, like.

I think yeah that's when you start privating you're just like I don't even know what I said in this video let me just private everything and you know you just got to sometimes yeah but Jenna's also like I remember there was one quote unquote scandal like she got a new fish and she was like really excited about it but she had it in a

a round tank and I guess it's like bad for fish to be around my gosh so she like I remember she posted a video like being so like emotional she's like you guys like I'm so sorry like I did not know that this was harmful to the fish like even that like it's crazy yeah like sweet and like yeah she's just trying to like not just hurt anyone you know so she she is like literally like the nicest too like she's an actual nice one I remember like going to her house like puking in my hair and she like gave me her clothes and

Really? Yeah, she was like so nice. Wasn't her husband in a band? Because I think we were going to see her husband and Colleen's first husband in a band together. I think he was in a band. Or like a vocal singing group or something. And it was like, yeah, it was, I forgot. They would do like parody songs together.

I think, because I think that's how I met her. I think we were on a party bus. Yes, he was in a band. It was a reference to Parks and Rec. Because it was like, Julian was like, I wake up in the morning and I'm vlogging myself. And it's like, that's about them vlogging. Oh, oh, it was vlog with me. Vlog, vlog with me. Vlog with me. Vlog, vlog. You don't remember that song? No. It was so good. It was called Vlog With Me.

And they would do a dance in the street and like, vlog with me, vlog, vlog with me. And they'd have their girlfriends that were more famous than them. And I think that was the point of the song is like, we have these really famous girlfriends. Because I think this other guy was like, that's Hart's boyfriend. He's like, I hold her purse. And like, it was something so weird. I can't think of the name of the band. No, you're right. That's what the song was called. And they don't have the name of the band with the song? The Shadows? The Shadows. There we go. Oh my God. That was a whole saga. Oh man.

The shadows were iconic. That's why I met Jenna. That is crazy. Yeah, because they were like all – it was weird. I don't know. Thank God my husband's like not an influencer. Like, oh my – I don't think I could handle the cringe because being an influencer is cringey. It's just cringey. I'm cringey. Everything about it is cringey. But if I saw like Moses make like a band, he's like, babe, be in this video behind me. I don't know. I'd get the ick maybe on that. And it's fine if you're that person, but I don't think I could do it. If he was like, let's vlog this morning. I don't know. Something about it makes me like – I feel a little ick.

That is wild. The lore to Julianne's Jolimita is pretty crazy when you think about it. Yeah, I don't.

I don't ever remember talking to him or, like, interacting with him, so I don't have any... anything. But I never talked to him once, but she was really nice. He seems also very nice, too. Like, he seems very, like... There's nothing that ever comes out about him that you're like, oh, that's dubious. You know what I mean? He's, like, another, like, kind of just sweet, unproblematic, rescues dogs kind of vibe. You know? I love that. It's perfect for, like, Jenna. I feel like that makes so much sense. But, yeah, you're right. It's so weird that there's just, like, no, like, Jenna sightings. I mean, you were gone for a week and you had sightings. No! No!

And we were pretty low key. We haven't left the house to eat. I was like, damn, okay. It's so weird. That is weird. I know. And Jenna was so massive and so popular. So it's very, very odd. I don't know. Maybe she likes to be at home. You know, like Chloe said, she was like scared to leave the house. I'm like, that's what I have to. I don't want to leave my house ever. So maybe it's like that. And if I didn't have kids, I would never leave my house. I would be in bed all day. Yeah. It's, I don't know. It's.

It's so interesting how she just kind of like removed herself though. I guess she was – I mean she had to just be over it but – But for this long? Four years. Like she really stuck with it. Yeah. She committed. I just feel like you would – I would just be – I would want to pose. I don't know. I don't know either and –

Like, she did private, like, her apology. Like, the one where she did, like, remove herself, like, her last video. Oh, she did. She did go on private that. I would imagine her videos are pretty timeless. So, I'm sure the AdSense from those is still kicking, I think. But don't they kick you off your monetization? I mean, she has a special plan. Oh, you're right. Remember, with the Just Rich Highlights channel. You have to post, like, a certain, for, you can't go a certain time without posting. Four months, I think. Because my ASMR was like that, too. So, I was like, let me post my ASMR family channel.

I never posted. I was like, I should post something there because, yeah. And I think that's probably why Colleen came back after four months. Yeah. So... I figured if... That's so interesting. Unless she has a special deal with, like, YouTube, maybe. Which I can kind of see just because she is so, like, iconic for the platform. Yeah. But, yeah, that's so interesting. Or maybe she just made enough. And, like, Julian is still working. So...

Between the two? I don't know. That's wild. Uh-huh. I mean, I just wish she would make a comeback. I know it's never going to happen, but I do wish she would. Well, she might on this show. That's true. Moses, tell her. It would benefit her to come on the podcast. You know what? It's no benefits. He's like, Chapo, it's something to come on the show. I'm here. Tell us your story. We'll forgive you if you can't come back.

I don't think she even did anything wrong. We forgive you, Jenna. I remember, like, when I was looking for Joey, James tried to collab. This was peak James, obviously. And... She said no? She... I don't think she ever responded. And even Joey was like... I told him, like, straight up, like, Jenna doesn't do anything. Yeah. But you can try. And, like, gave her... Gave James her number. But I don't think James ever heard back. Yeah. She never did collab with people, I don't think. Not really. No. Unless she, like, just genuinely liked them, I think. Like, I think she did... Did she do a collab with someone...

I think she did something with someone where she did. Because I don't even think she collabed with like Shane. They were on a cover together for Variety, I remember. But I don't think they ever like collabed. Oh, yeah. Back in the day, she did like Grace Helbig and stuff. Really? Yeah. Wow. That's pretty impressive. Yeah. And then she just became her and Julian and her dogs. Yeah. I do miss her though. Oh, my God. Wait. She did do a James collab five years ago. I'm totally wrong. Oh, five years. Was that John McGatty now? I guess five years ago. 2019. Yeah. Yeah.

Oh my god. It must have been right before. But when I was working for Joey it was in June. Maybe he was trying to get a hold of her again. I don't know. Oh yeah. 2020. It's like no one was clapping. February 2019. So a couple months pre-by sister. Yeah. That explains it. So maybe all that was happening and she was like I gotta go. Well I guess she was that was 2020. She canceled herself. Yeah.

I wish. I just want like a statement or something. I would love this. No, I want her maybe to drop like a book one day or something. I don't know. That would be everything. Yeah. Just come on out. Yeah. And she definitely has a lot. She lived a lot of life. Like didn't she start. Was she like a bikini model or something? Is she like a bikini dancer or model maybe? Yeah, maybe she was. I don't think she was like a dancer too. I feel like she was like a bikini dancer. That makes sense because her intro was just her like in the. Remember the bikini? Yeah. Oh God.

Oh, no. I remember she did, like, a bikini try-on haul and said this was, like, my job. I didn't know that. What's the honk, honk, honk? Her intro, it was, like, her in, like, a bikini top with, like, football, like, shoulder pads. Right. I do remember that. And it was, like, sexy. And then it would be, like, honk, honk, honk. Because she did barstool. I guess, yeah. I guess because she did barstool, too. She was, like, on barstool to start. Was she really? Yeah, I think...

I want to say, yeah, they started Jenna Marbles. Wow. I think she was a barstool sports girl. I think she had, like, videos she was making for them, and then she just decided to make them for herself on YouTube. Wow. Smart. I've only met her, like, once or twice, I think. I've interviewed her, but they were, like, weird interviews. Oh, for ET? Yeah, it was, like, the streamies, I want to say. And I think, guys, streamies are a little off-putting, because it was, like...

I just remember her answers to everything were so short and I was like I started to panic because I was just like aww yeah I would too I mean being an interviewer would be so hard in those situations especially if you get those weird ones that like don't want to talk to you it's like or like the Austin Butlers who just start asking you about yourself and you're just like um I need this job stop asking me about myself he's like I want to know more about you that girl was lucky I was like I would probably I married her so I would probably be like I don't know what to say this is so awkward he is good looking that guy is a good looking man Austin yeah he's very handsome not to go back to that but

He's so cute. He's like a Brad Pitt, I feel. Not to go back to that either, too, but I forgot. I did see he talks about how he loves being a quote-unquote uncle to Ashley Tisdale's kids, and that gave me hope for becoming Elvis' godfather. Austin, we have the baptism coming in September. We would love for you to join us. It's bougie, too, so it's in Palm Springs. Come join us. I would love Austin Butler. Come on. Maybe I could get Riley...

Elvis's granddaughter to come be the godmother. Riley, what's her name? Keough? Oh, yeah. Riley Keough. She's from Daisy and the Six. Yeah, Daisy Jones and the Six. Yeah. Maybe she'll be the god. That'd be great. Yeah. Would love it. You know who's friends with her is your friend, oh my God, what is her name?

My friend is Suki Waterhouse. Your good friend Suki Waterhouse. Yeah. Suki and Iron Tide. So maybe have Suki reach out. Yeah. I think that's proof. I don't know. It could have been her that commented but when she commented on that TikTok I feel like it was her team. I don't feel like it was her you know. I don't think she because she's pretty like low key. Oh. I think if I. Yeah. You think it was her? Yeah. Yeah.

Because she's pretty like chill. She's pretty low key. I guess like your sound like you would go and look at to see who's doing because that's what I did with Eminem when I was just going to like my sound like looking at everyone that did it and comment on it. Yeah. So I guess that would make sense. Yeah. Yeah. So I think her for real. But yeah, I think like a lot of the times especially the anyone who has like their stands around them like it's just not doing it themselves. You know what I mean? Yeah. Like Sabrina, Olivia, like anyone who's there's like big stand-ups. It's like

And you're just a big artist. It's just like, it's bad for your mental health. Yeah. Just like constantly look at your own self. Yeah, that would be true. Jenna, you are the queen. She is the queen of the internet. I know. I miss her. I was always jealous of her for sure. I never, I don't think I've ever talked bad about Jenna, but I always was like jealous of her. I was like, damn, like I wish I was getting 5 million views of it. I always, always have been that way. I'm just like, damn, she was, she was, I remember when she did the cover of Variety with Shane, I was like so jealous. Really? I was like, oh man, I just,

Yeah, she's a queen. She's also just like humble and sweet and nice and also like a pretty girl. And it was just like, oh man, she's kind of everything. Yeah, she was the one where it's like, you know, boys like her, girls like her. She's like a girl's girl, a boy's girl. She's kind of for everyone. Everyone loved her. Everyone loved Jenna. And if you didn't, then you were weird. Yeah, like that's issues there.

But not like the Jack Wright issues. That's disturbing, honestly. The Jeffrey Dahmer dress up is very disturbing to me. For four years or whatever. And I'm like, why is he on TikTok? And I don't know if it's true. We would love receipts. Someone email him to Oscar. Oh, T, yes. Get us the exclusive. You have a tip. Yeah. You have a tip. We'll have a reward of a judge Trish. Maybe. We can't even give you a shirt. Yeah. What can we give? You know. You look your heart. I'll give you a card.

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