Trisha's Mom EXPOSES Her Childhood & Shares Parenting Advice
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Welcome back to the Just Trish podcast. Today we have a very special Mother's Day episode with my very special guest, my mother. Hey, hi. I'm so honored. I really am. I get a whole podcast to myself. Oh my gosh, that's right. You were on Hot Topics once for the Golden Bachelorette and now you're an official guest. Don't even get me started on that topic. Well, we can. We have two hours to fill. Well, we might have to. Okay. How's life? If you guys don't know, this is my mom.

Where you should have been on the show Smothered if it was like – did you ever watch it? I've watched like the previews of it. I mean, we're not like that. Do I smother you? No. I think it's more about the closeness of the mother and daughter. Oh. Well, I think we're closer than ever now. Well, of course. You're a mom. I'm a mom. Yeah.

We have married and we have similarities. But you would think sometimes when getting married, like, you know, you distance yourself from family or something like that. You don't see your family as much, but I feel like we see you now more than ever. Well, I think some people do, but we live close and we work together and you have a great little family I love. Oh, I know. I never thought I'd see the day where I'd want to like have my mom live with us again. I was like, I want my mom to live with me.

And I feel like for so long we lived together in my 20s, in my early 20s. And I was like, this is so embarrassing. I love my mom. I remember, do you remember when that one boyfriend came over and I think he asked like, oh, are you, like you were going to the bedroom because we shared a bedroom. And he's like, oh, is your mom staying the night? Because I didn't tell him I lived with my mom.

And I was like, oh, she's just napping here. Oh, great. And I was like 22. And I was like, oh, my God. I don't want this guy to know that I not only live with my mom. We shared a bed together. And I was like, I don't think I told you because I was just like, oh. We shared many beds together in locations. Oh, my gosh. That room was crazy. My hoarding, all the clothes. But anyways, it's about you. Happy Mother's Day. Happy pre-Mother's Day. Thank you. Maybe you'll have Elvis on your birthday. Well, the birthday's passed. Yeah, that's true. But maybe. Maybe.

You never know. Yeah. Maybe on Mother's Day. Because you were a Mother's Day baby. I was. If you look it up, it was May 8th, 1988. It was a Sunday and it was Mother's Day because it changes a lot. Right. That's true. And I was in church and I'm like, uh-oh, got to leave the church early. Your water broke? My water never has broken with my children. Oh, you just felt the contractions. Yeah. Right. So. Oh, and it was church? And how long did you labor for? You were eight hours. Oh, wow.

Wow. Yeah. But that's pretty fast. You hear people like do like 36 hours of labor. Yeah. No, I was pretty lucky. Eight. Eight. And no epidural. Ouch, it came and...

No, because everybody goes, oh, don't do any drugs. So I thought, oh, okay, I don't need an epidural. But now that you tell me how great it is, I'm like, oh, man. Oh, yeah, we were talking this morning with my makeup artist, too, about different birth styles. And I was just like, the pushing was easy because I didn't feel anything. I pushed for three hours. I mean, she was stuck. But I was just like, I could have done that all day because it was just, you felt nothing. And they have it now with the epidural button. So you can push it if you want more. So if you start feeling a little something, you push it. And then it's just like, oh, I feel nothing.

Yes, I would do that over again differently. Do you feel all of it? Yes, yes. It hurt. Yeah. It was like a semi that attacked me. During or after? After when you're just laying there, it's like, oh my gosh. That's crazy. My dad was present at both of the births? Yeah, he was. He was watching basketball game though. During the birth or during the labor? During the labor and I get it. That would be crazy actually. Yeah. But you know.

It was great. You were healthy. 10 pounds, 2 ounces. That's a big baby. That's big. But they, you know, they rushed you off. So...

And your dad didn't go with him. It wasn't a thing at the time, you know. But hindsight. Switched at birth. This is why I'm doing the 23andMe. I'm convinced. They will have to do it together. That's true. To see like, actually, you should do it because you don't know either. Like your background, your ancestry, you know, you're like German. That's true. Well, we did it, remember, but it was so odd. You did it? Remember? Yeah. It was like no possibility that it could have been. What? What?

I did. And it came out like I was Mediterranean or part Middle East or – I do not remember this. Yeah. I'll have to – Are you sure it wasn't Mucky? I remember we did Mucky. No, I know. What did I do with you? First of all, Mucky is Pomeranian and – American Eskimo. Yeah. So – Wait. Did I – And you must have had Kelly help you. Yeah. Kelly helped me. Okay. So I wasn't there. No. No. But it's like – I don't know. I would like to do it again to see how different it would be. So you think you're Middle Eastern? Oh, my gosh. Oh, my gosh.

That's crazy. My skin is pure white, so I don't know. You never know that somewhere down our bloodline, I think either on my dad's side or your side, somewhere something that... Because you're always like, I'm German, and my dad's like, I'm Hungarian. I'm like, okay, but there has to be more. And no one ever delved deep into their... Well, they probably didn't have that available to you back then. And just know what your parents say is 100% true.

So. That's what I was convinced. My dad's like, we're Hungarian. I'm like, oh, that's all I am. You know, but I'm like, there has to be something more. And then people would always ask me and they're like, I don't know. I don't think I'm anything. So I'm lost. But we'll take it again together. We'll redo it. And your dad's very strict on his ways of changing. So even if you got it and he's like, no, we're this dad. I know. I know. I always thought about that too. I was like, maybe I just wouldn't even tell him if it was like a different, you know, if we're mixed with something. I don't know. Cause like maybe he just wants to believe that and that's it. You know, whatever you want to believe. All right. So Mother's Day. Yeah.

1988. That was when I was born. Yes.

Eight, eight. That's your numbers too, huh? Three eights. Eight, eight, eight. I was born eighth of 88. Still waiting on that lottery win though. We're ready for it. Maybe it'll be that. My biggest fear is I go into labor and I can't get my lotto tickets for that day. I was just like, I try to get them in advance, but sometimes you can only get them like the day of if it's like the Powerball. Maybe come door dash with the food they deliver to you. Can't get some lotto tickets. The day after we left the hospital with Malibu, I remember when we were coming home with her, I'm like, I need to stop and get my lotto tickets. And Moses dropped me off and I...

Maybe I can get them on the way to your house to take care of my elbow. No, come straight away because the contractions. Okay, so, but it's you. You're my mother. So today we celebrate you. You've been on my podcast before. How does this compare to the other ones that I've done? I felt more pressure because we talk about the golden bachelorette. Oh, the first time you were on this one. What about the one in Studio City? Remember being on that one with the pink couch?

Oh, yeah. I was on that a couple times. What did we talk about? I don't remember. It's a little different setup though now. Now we have camera crew, lighting. It's official. Purple flowers grown in your garden. Oh, yeah. Do you know what these are called?

They look like violets that grew wild on our farm. Oh, okay. Well, they're wisterias. It's like wisteria laid for desperate housewives. Oh, I get you. Yes. So they're that. So let's talk about you, mom, that people want to know. Because a lot of people don't know. It used to be in my videos a lot. It used to be in my videos a lot. I would say my mom is – I've always said this. I say it to my husband. I say it to everyone. My mom is definitely my number one supporter from day one, from the time I tried to move out.

I was 18. You were always supportive. I lived with my dad for like a couple months. He was not supportive. And my mom, yeah, I always tell the story of let me max out your credit cards. We got any cash you had, you sent me. Well, you know, you had a dream.

And, you know, growing up, I would have loved to have been you, but we didn't have any of those opportunities. So, you know, if you have that perseverance, which I saw in you and the qualities, and now even through many years, your determination and because you've been, you know,

cast aside, you know, and thrown aside. And here you are, you're like on top of the world right now. You have a beautiful family. Malibu is beautiful. Your husband's beautiful. You're beautiful. And now Elvis, we cannot wait. Oh my gosh. So, um, you know, it's just life changes, you know, it is crazy to think about.

Well, you were always – like even before I was 18 and moved out, like even when I was a teenager, you let me move out with my dad for a little while because I wanted to act and then that became a whole thing. But that's not your fault. But you really did just kind of like let me do whatever, you know, which is like good. Like you're like, oh, you want to go act? Okay, you can go live – you want to go – we used to meet celebrities all the time in Chicago. If like John Malkovich was in town, my mom would drive me up and it was really Charlie and the Chocolate Factory. We drove to North Carolina when I was 15. Yeah.

To go audition. Like you really were. Oh my gosh, yes. The North Carolina trip. You really? Was it the Jeep? Yeah. And you really did believe in me all the time like you always did. I always think about that. I'm always like, that's pretty. I believe most parents wouldn't be like that. Like here, just take all the money I have, which is not a lot. You didn't have a lot at the time. You know, like take every money I have, all the credit card I have and whatever.

And, yeah, it paid off in some capacity, I guess, after time. But it was a struggle for a minute. I think you have to believe in that person. I think that's why so many parents don't do anything for their kids, you know. Not that my parents didn't, but we didn't have money, you know, to do any of that. So what little we did have, you know, I thought, you know, you try and make it big. I thought, you know, it was cool he wanted to be an actor because I thought that is just awesome, you know, to –

have that dream and be out there in Hollywood. It was fun. It was fun for that like year and a half. And I just, I always, I always remember that. That's why I'm like, to this day, I'm just like, I should have retired like you earlier. Cause I always think like when I did all those music videos, when you were still like working at the airport and you couldn't like walk cause you have your hip problem. And so I was just like, I probably should have said paid $60,000 for a video. I could have paid $3,000 a month for like...

Because my mom really did give me every single thing. Like never ending too. Like up until I'm like a full grown adult, she's like, if you need money, we have the same, we have each other's bank accounts, like that kind of stuff. But you know, that's hindsight comes into play, you know. I know. You were doing your thing, which was cool. I never even thought of that at all.

But I didn't know how bad you were like struggling either like with your physical – it's like so weird though. It's like now like you like thrive physically. Like you know what I mean? Now that you're not on your feet all the time. Like I see you. I'm like you're so active. You're like go to the gym, like stuff with Malibu. And I was like it's kind of crazy what –

like not working, you know, like I think working just puts so much stress on people. And I really feel like our, I don't know, like I think the system is messed up where they don't give you your money until you're like, what, 65 or something like that? Or 62, you can start. But then it's like less. Right. It's like less. It is, but it's so worth it. I mean,

I mean, you know, because we may not live to be 67 when you can take it. Like, you know, like when my dad retired and got it, he only got two years of his, you know. Right. And that's sad. You work your whole life, you know. It's kind of a scam if you think about it, right? It is. Yeah.

Because then they're like, oh, wait until you're seven. Maybe the chance that you're not going to be alive by then. And like, well, just keep that money because that money doesn't go anywhere, right? Which is like so crazy. But you've like really thrived I feel like since like not working. Because my mom, by the way, worked so hard. Like literally always talk about like three jobs like all the time. Like bartending, bus driving, and substitute teaching. Or you were like a teacher at eight, I guess. Yeah. And you did all those at once. So you would like drive a bus in the morning at 7 a.m.,

Then I would go with special needs children. I would do autistic students, and I did a blind high school student for a couple years. Then you go on the bus route again, and then you go take the sports team, the football team to a game and something. And then bartending at the country club until like 1 in the morning. Yeah. And then doing it all again the next day. And then I did the post office.

That's right. Because we were – I wanted to make more money. And then it was so hard back then. They didn't have like after school daycare to take care. So it was hard to find somebody to, you know, meet you guys off the bus or whatever. No one did though, right? We were talking about that too. Like my makeup artist was like, we just watch ourselves. I'm like, I kind of did too. Well, yeah, you know.

The oldest was 12. So at that time that was legal, I guess. But yeah. It's a different world now too. It is. It really is. I mean, granted, back then it was like probably wild too. You just didn't hear about it as much. But yeah. And you know, we were out in the country more. I think no social media too. So no one, you know what I mean? Now people see kids and can track and like all this like stuff like that. I think.

But I remember – but I think it was common for our generation to watch ourselves because everyone I talked to was like, we just watched ourselves. We did too. Yeah. Exactly. But – It wasn't there, but – Yeah. Yeah.

Glad to be where I'm at now. I love my family so much. I mean, they're my life. And I say to Trisha all the time, this is the happiest time of my life. You know, I have, don't have to work all the time. And you get to enjoy your family, which is, you know, kind of backwards because when you guys were little, you don't enjoy you as much as, you know, you can. Yeah.

So now I'm hopefully trying to make up for it. No, but I think that's so common with parents because it is Mother's Day. And I always talk about this too. It's just like even now parents, both parents have to work. You have to send your kid to daycare. Like you just don't get to see your kid that much because you have to work so much and so hard. That's why grandparents really do enjoy their kids more. But I know that's why we're so like lucky that we literally like go upstairs and like Malibu is there or we do it twice a week or whatever. But it's really sad. It's

It's sad that you don't get more time off after you have your baby. It's sad we have to work five days a week. Like, I just feel like there should be more done. I don't know. With all the money we pay towards taxes, it's like you could give everyone like a day off and pay them, you know? Exactly. Something. It just doesn't seem fair with any of that stuff. But you worked, yeah, you would work the, then you would bartend. So it's not even like,

little jobs. You were doing like laboring jobs. Oh, and she delivered mail in one of the dangerous cities now in the US, Rockford, Illinois, which is like the third... It was like the third most dangerous city like 10 years ago or something like that. Right. Well, that's one reason I thought... When you first start out, you get all the bad areas anyway. And you're walking. Yeah. And there was an incident on my route. And I came home and I know I asked you guys, I go, it's

Is it more important for us to have the money or for me to be here and, you know, maybe work at the school and be there for you? Oh, did you ask us? I don't remember. Yeah. What did we say? And you're like, oh, no. Yeah. We'd rather have you home. Really? Yeah. Okay, good. Thank God. I was like, what did we say? No, so...

You were gone a lot. You were gone a lot. It was a great job, but, you know, the area was, it's not, you know, if you're not safe and you got children, if it was just me, I'd be like, okay, whatever. But, you know, I hated to see you without, you know, a mom.

It is weird. It's like in the moment you don't think about it. But yeah, like looking back, you're just like, oh my God, you guys – and you worked all the time. So it's like, yeah, because then on the weekends we could go shopping and we went to the movies. I always remember our thing. That's why I like going to the movies with you now. I always tell Moses this too. It's just like that was always like our thing. Like every weekend you're like, let's go to the movies and –

get all the popcorn and nachos and you took us to see Texas Chainsaw Massacre. You took us to see like everything. First of all, we walked out on that one. That was so scary. And I've never been like that scared. We all were. We all slept in the same bed. I think I was 15 and maybe Callie was 10 and we all just slept in the same bed for like a year after that. That was a string. That was like a string of, it must have come out around 2001 because I just remember it was like that and I want to say it was like... Freddy? Like Freddy? You mean the horror films? Yeah.

The Texas Chainsaw Massacre I think came out around the same time as September 11th because I just remember all of it happening at once. And I remember John Ritter dying. I think it was all at the same time. And I just remember being scared of the world. And I think I was homeschooled at the time. I think this was after I moved back from my dad's house. And I think it was like all around the same time. So I was home alone. So we had watched Texas Chainsaw Massacre. And I was like so scared because we lived in these like apartments. And I was like so terrified of it all. And I was just like –

But I think it was around that time because I don't know why September 11th traumatized me. I have no idea why. We didn't know anyone in New York. It wasn't like that. But I just remember being so scared. I don't know why. And I just remember sleeping in your bed until I was like 15, 16. It's scary for a child no matter what age or even adults. We're scared because –

You don't know if something else was going to happen or whatever, but. And then did grandpa pass away that year? Yeah. That one. Like just a couple weeks later. I think, yeah, a couple weeks later. So it was just like a, I just remember that time being like so traumatized. That's why I don't watch the news. I think I, people are like, oh, you're ignorant for not keeping up with politics or something. It's just like, I was so traumatized by September 11th for, no, I don't, I still don't understand it. And I think it's just like that series of events. And I just remember like sleeping in your bed the whole time and just being like so scared. I don't know.

Well, that too. And they had showed it at school because they had showed it without them blocking anything out. Oh, yeah. Because later they blocked it out, but they showed it actually happening at that moment. Oh, yeah. It was terrifying. Oh, yeah. All of it was. That's why. Yeah. Then I remember when Grandpa passed away, I remember you coming into the school like crying and I just thinking like, oh my God, what happened now? Because like it was just always something. Right. Anyways. Well, at least we had Cherry Velma. Woo-hoo. Shout out, Cherry. Shout out. The food court.

Oh, man. That food court was so good. I loved going there for the fried rice. We got Cinnabons, the pretzel. Those were good memories. Right. Like, it is weird how you, like, block out so many of the bad stuff that happened because obviously my school trauma, you guys know, like, went through a whole thing with school. My mom knows, whatever. But you would always come. Like, when I would tell you, like, girls bullying me, you'd be like, you, you, come with me to the principal. But the principal never did anything. You know what I mean? Like,

Yeah, I was a good old boy school, unfortunately. Oh, still to this day, we get into that whole thing about whatever. We always talk about it anytime stuff comes up about – because I talk about it a little bit here and there, but my mom will be like – I can't even start talking about it because then it opens up this whole camera. Exactly. Whole thing. So I shut them worms up. And we're so far removed from that now, which it is so crazy. We talk about like, isn't that weird? That was like our life, like the Midwest. Yeah.

That is so weird to me. It's like another life for me, totally. Me too. Growing up on a farm and baling hay and feeding the hogs. Do you miss anything? Do I miss anything? Yeah. Not a thing. Really? Because we had one bathroom and one tub to share for three girls and my mom and dad. And then we had a dog. We had all these kitties. No, I don't. It was a tough time, you know? Old farmhouse. We rode the bus. Yeah.

It was safer times. Did you? Well, you were. Safer times, too, but, yeah. Right. Because you guys were, like, in the middle, literally in the, like, middle of cornfields. Yes, yeah. Which is, like, crazy. But I always wanted to walk to school. Maybe that's why I like to walk now. You were so far. How would you have walked there? No, I always wanted to live in town.

Oh. So we could walk. They all walk with their friends. I thought that was so cool. Oh, my. Well, now you walk everywhere. Now Mama walk everywhere, every place, all that stuff. It's so funny. So you're so lucky. You get to stay home with your children. Ah, it's the best. Your husband, too. Moses is wonderful. And you just...

I'm very lucky you don't have to go through a lot of stuff. Oh, I'm like thankful every day. I literally do. Like I was talking about this for my birthday too coming up and I was just like just on Twitter and I was just like, I was like so thankful. And you know, I asked me too, like, what do you want for your birthday? I'm like, I literally don't want anything because like it couldn't be the most, it's like the most perfect scenario. We get to be at home.

Moses is here. You're here. Like I literally have so much support. I'm just like, this is all I want. And it's kind of perfect that we all get to be together and we get to be close to each other. We just like a good meal for our birthdays. Mastro's. Oh yeah, Mastro's. That has been our thing now. We were Saddle Ranch people. Before Saddle Ranch was cool, we used to go. Because Saddle Ranch became cool in 2020. That's right. Like with David and the vlog. So everyone was going there. All the TikTokers. But I was like, we were going there, what, 2007? And every birthday we did was at Saddle Ranch. Is it still like popular now?

Yeah. We haven't gone for years. It's just swarmed by influencers now. But it's like when we went, I feel like it just like wasn't – the food was great. Yeah.

The nachos, the mac and cheese. Right. All of it was so good. Growing up, you said – you just said you had three – it was three girls, three sisters because we have two girls coming. And I was just thinking like we always say like, oh, will we try for a third? Like it would probably be another girl. I would – you know, in our family we have a lot of girls, like our nieces and stuff like that. So did you like having – I always ask – I asked one of our cousins this. I'm like, did you like having a sister? She's like – she's like, wait. And I was like, did you like having sisters growing up?

You know, I did. My older sister always would try and help me with my hair because my mom wasn't into makeup or hair. You know, she just had the short, natural, wavy hair. But, um,

I always wanted to look pretty. I always thought that's why I didn't get cheerleading in eighth grade because I didn't look pretty. Why did you think you looked pretty? I didn't look pretty. I was not. But what made you think that? Did someone tell you that? Like most kids don't know they're not attractive until someone tells them. In seventh grade, you don't – you look at other girls and you think, oh, they're really cute and pretty. And I had, you know, just didn't do anything with my hair. I think I washed it once a week and, you know, glasses and

And then my mom, sometimes she would cut it so short and she'd give me this big wave on top. I looked like a boy, you know. I had some of those haircuts too. I had a lot of short haircuts. Thank Callie. And a lot of – when I was doing YouTube a lot of times, I'd get comments like, well, why don't you dress your age? Why don't you have short hair? But, you know, I didn't get to look pretty back then. I never had really long hair or makeup at all or any clothes. I couldn't remember one thing I wore back then. You know, we would go to, I think, Montgomery Wards. Yeah.

Probably sometimes stop at Goodwill, but I think I maybe only had six outfits. Between all of you girls, you only had six outfits or just you? You might see my older sister got more, like Callie says you did. Yeah.

She always had cute stuff, I thought, you know? Kelly did. I know. She says that. I get it. But it's also like she had really – I feel like she always had the cuter clothes for sure. I mean, she was smaller, so I always thought maybe she just could fit into cuter stuff. No, I remember going in one time in her closet when she said that. I'm like, oh, my gosh. She doesn't have any clothes in here. Really? Oh, that's so funny. I felt like such a bad mom. Well, you know what? I don't know. I feel that way too with the second one coming because it's like for the nursery. It's like Malibu didn't use hers, but it's like – so we didn't do like a big –

spectacle. I mean, we're going to do the playroom, something Elvis themed, but I was just like, oh my God, I hope. Cause I think when I had Zach sang on, he was saying, I always remember my older sister having a first communion, but he didn't. And I was like, oh no. But it's like, you know, you go through it with the first one. You're like, is it worth it for, you know, to have a nursery for, you know, she's not going to remember, but. Exactly. Yeah. I don't think I would have had that been like that. Like, oh, where was mine? You know?

But then sometimes, like you said, Callie will bring up stuff, my little sister, and she'll bring up stuff and I'm like, oh my God, maybe that does trauma affect them. I remember you would always get us Christmas presents and you would show us who wants this, who wants this.

Oh, really? And you guys got to choose? You had the big stitch and then that mannequin. Remember? That purple polka dot mannequin. And I think I wanted one and then Callie took the other and then I wanted to switch and then I made her switch me. I feel like she has a lot of little sister trauma, so I'm going to try our best with our two girls to

Keep it. That's true. But then it's like, also, do you just buy them two of everything? Like, it's just such a, like, do you just buy the same thing for both people? Well, I think for two, I think they share more. When you got the third one, that's when the problems start. Because then two can gang up on one. But Nick had left. And that's when that happened. So it's like. Oh, okay. I don't know. Like, what would be the solution? And we were five years apart. So it's a little different. But. Well, at least you all are together now. Yeah.

Now I really appreciate having a sister. I think more. I think growing up, I liked having a brother. I felt like, okay, he takes care of everything. But now he has his own family. I did. I always wanted a brother. Because I see them taking care of him at school. If a bully comes out, the big brother will go take care of it.

Yeah. But then I feel like when they get older, the brother, they always say goes, they kind of like, you don't see them as much, right? They become like part of like... Right. Yeah. You know? If they get a girlfriend or they get married, they tend to go towards the wife side. Yeah. Which is like fine, obviously, but it's like, I think you appreciate them more, the closeness of the sisters. Right.

I mean, we're happy. Honestly, I was happy with boy or girls, but I think the girls are just like super special. But I was interested because you just only had sisters. I was like, oh, I wonder how that was to only have sisters. Yeah. Well, see, my younger sister was five years younger, so she was more a mama's girl. And she didn't play with us a lot. It's kind of weird, but I guess we were out doing our own thing, you know? Yeah, because you guys are closer in age. So at least your girls would be close. Yeah.

And Moses is a great girl dad. Yes. He keeps it all balanced over there. Are you on camera today? You're not on camera. I thought maybe you were setting it up. Oh, well. Oh, okay. I get it now. I know. Sometimes I talk to him and he can't hear the microphone. When you were growing up, what was your biggest dream? What was my biggest dream?

I don't know. Back then, I don't think we had dreams. What? You didn't dream. Even when I went to high school, and I remember meeting the counselor, and it was like college day, and I remember going in, and he goes, are you going to go to college? I'm like, no. He goes, okay, bye. Wait, who said that? My counselor.

Is it okay by? Yeah. He didn't, you know, try and say, well, you know, cause I didn't know you could get student loans. Cause I thought my mom and dad can't afford that. So I'm like, okay. And then I thought, well, what am I going to do? You know, for a job, you know, cause you know, back then it's like, I got to leave when I'm 18. And what am I going to do? You know? Oh, you felt that back then? Yeah. I felt, yeah. Oh, interesting. But didn't you, you didn't stay, you didn't stay with them past 18? No.

I think I stayed till 19. Yeah. And then I tried, started working. Cause back then you get, I rented a room. I remember there was three of us and it was room for a hundred dollars a month, three of us. And we had a share tub. And I remember this one girl was not, she was not hygienically correct. And they always had to walk through my area to get to the bathroom. I mean, it was only one room with the bed, right. But that's what I could afford. Why didn't you just stay home? That wasn't an option?

You were so close to them. You lived like 10 minutes from them. No, but I don't know. My mom's like, well, you know, you're 18 now. You have to start paying for health insurance and pay for your own doctor's services. They were like, bye. I mean, we weren't that poor, but I thought, wow, that kind of was shocking. At 18, that's a shock. Just kind of kick you out, you know?

That's great. Did you feel that way? That's so interesting. I do. I felt that way, but I never heard what my dad's side ever was. Right. I wish you could ask him now. You'd be like, so what did that – I know it's so weird when you're like an adult and you're just like, okay, wait. I have a different memory of this happening. I wish I could have clarification. You're pretty – well, you don't remember a lot of things, but then my dad would like have no openness and I'm just like, okay, I get no clarity. You know what I mean? Like I don't

remember and then my dad will be like completely shut off like he I don't even think my dad I swear my dad didn't even like raise like have us because he's like doesn't remember us as babies he'll always ask with like Melby like oh how do you like feed how do you know when she's hungry I'm like didn't you have two babies how did you know this that's hard to believe because we had oh so many videos and all you have to do is watch the videos you know it's like oh and he would play with you guys and we'd go out every you know weekend to Disneyland or Knott's Berry Farm I mean we were always busy because he blocked it out so

I guess. It is weird. We were talking about this the other day, too, how like our generation or my generation seems to be trying to stay together more because we had such a string of divorced parents. And now people are trying to make the marriage thing work. Not that it didn't work, but it's just, you know. Yeah, I think children of divorced parents, that next generation, I think they're going to stick together more.

And make sure they find the partner that they want. Because my brother has a great track record. He's been with his person for like over 10 years, like 12, 13 years. So that gives me hope. I'm like, okay. I know. That makes me happy because certainly I would have done it different, you know. And I know they say, well, you don't stay together if you're not. But, you know, it's okay. You can get along, you know. Yeah. We just had, you know, different –

areas like I wanted to be back in the Midwest because I thought it was safer to raise you guys. And he always, you know, wanted to live in California. Well, I think it is so hard without family around. Like you had no family. That was a big thing. I could not imagine being in a different state than you. Like that'd be like so crazy. Right. Yeah. Especially, I don't know, you just really need help and it's just nice when it's family. Yeah.

And I think girls in general need to be by their mom more. Yeah, for sure. Like boys, not as much maybe. Yeah, I don't know. But they're out. Free spirits. I don't need my mom. Yeah, right. They just do their own thing. But I definitely feel that way too. I have like, I just need to be close to you. And that's like, would be hard to not have anyone. And you didn't. And so anywhere in California, and it's a whole different world. Right, right. So true. And then that.

This looks like pretty. No, I'm looking at your white teeth. I whiten mine, but mine don't get white anymore. Mine are not white. I need to go. I haven't gone to a dentist in 10 years. I told you I need to get my, you don't have any plaque. Yours are so big. And mine has like plaque on buildup and all that stuff like that on it.

Well, I, you know, since the... Tell me. I don't know if people need to know this, but since COVID hit, I have been... There was this one guy, he was like 28 years old, never went to the dentist, never had a cavity. He goes, I floss every day. I'm like, so since COVID, I was flossing since all the dentists were closed down. So I've been flossing every day. Oh, did they shut down during COVID? I guess so. I floss every day. Most of the time. I used to never floss. I didn't either, but since then, I'm like, maybe if I floss every day, I want to go to the dentist till I pass. Yeah.

What? Until you pass away? Why would you go to the dentist then? No, I said maybe I won't have to go. Just ever again in your life? Ever again, yes. I guess it's your choice. I got all the toothpaste. But then you're going to be 100 years old and your teeth are going to be missing. Well, then I would, you know. But if I go to the dentist, my teeth are so sensitive. Mine too. And I would have to be put out.

The next time I go because they hurt me. That's why I don't want to go. I know. Mine too. He hurts me. And even the dental hygienist, she'll get that one spot where you go, oh my, oh. It just tingles and you're about ready to just fall over. I feel you. And then she hit it again. I'm like, okay, I'm done. I can't do it. It's when your root grows back from your... Is that like a root canal you would need? I don't know. I had a root canal. You did? When? When?

Oh, that's, I think, I don't know. They take the nerve out, you know? Oh. I think I had two, but yeah, I just, I can't, yeah. I'm going to find a doctor that puts you under, or else that nitrogen oxide. I think just finding like the right dentist. I'm sure there's someone that's like gentler or something. Maybe. Like different hairstylists and stuff like that.

If you guys don't know, my mom and we do also work together. We're also – actually, you probably work now more than ever, I feel. Like you're not like physically like, you know, waiting on people because my mom always was in the service industry. Well, you bartended for what, 30 years or something like that?

Probably more than that, right? That's a good backup job, I got to tell you, though. Tips are everything. Except now I don't know. If they're making $20 an hour now, it's like, do you still tip? That's the controversy. Well, yeah, I think you're supposed to still tip. Why would you not? Because back then you were making $3 an hour, so people would tip you. But I think people don't know that now. It's still service. You still tip, I feel. Yeah, maybe. But I think you've been bartending longer. When did you retire from the airport? 2018. 2018.

So six years ago, I started doing your posh. I cleared out all your warehouses. Literally my storage units. There's one comment all the time in every video.

Show us a video of the storage unit. Like every time I'm like, okay, well, they're gone now. They're done. She didn't do that. I don't think I was doing social media that much though yet. YouTube? I don't know. And why did you even do it? Because I was like, I'm fine leaving in the storage unit. And all of a sudden one day my mom was just like clearing out all my storage units. Well, you were paying so much and you lost a key to one. And it's like that – you said, you know, on Poshmark we had dilly-dallied with that for a couple of years. That started in 2018 too, right? Yeah. So I thought, you know, I went and got a U-Haul.

Just did it all myself, loaded it. Which is like crazy. I don't know how I did that really, but I was stronger then. But you were still 60 and that's when you had your neuropathy. And so I'm just like, how –

I guess I don't know where I was. Wait, wait, wait. 59. Six years ago, I was 59. Oh, wow. Really? Really? So, 50s, I feel like you're still energetic and moving. Wow. Was you? Oh, my God. That's crazy. That was 2018. I don't know where I was because I don't remember you doing this. Like, I don't know where I was. I know. You weren't. Like, where was I? In fact, remember that big Hello Kitty desk you had back at the beach in Playa? Did you sell it? I love that desk. And it was clear up on top of the box. I was like, how am I going to get that on? And how did you? I kind of put it on my head and put it on the...

Oh my God. You can like hurt yourself. That's so crazy to think about. But I did it, you know, and then the other two. I was just interested to see what was in it. And then I put it in a bigger storage, you know, where I lived.

And, yeah, I know you said, oh, show all the people that. But I just wanted to get it up, you know. People wanted to see it so bad and you never did. And I was like, oh, man. See, I don't think I was on social media then. You definitely were because you were doing lives in your Hermosa Beach. You were cooking. Right. But I think I did that all before. And you had gotten mucky that year. So you were showing mucky. You were definitely on YouTube for sure. Yeah.

But I think I was living in the gallery at the time. Oh, okay. So... But 2018, you also got Mucky. You lived in the other one with the two windows. Yeah, that's probably when I started more so. And you were cooking. You were doing the most. But I started with the loft first.

Oh, okay. I didn't know that. But yeah. I know. I wish I would. It was pretty interesting, but it looked a mess. You know, I had boxes. Things were falling out of the boxes. And you're still doing it. And now when she comes over, she's always like going through stuff. What can I posh? I know. We have a garage full of boxes still. Not too many. You have. Not too many. Isn't there 50 boxes in that garage? 50? Thank you. Laughed. Yes. 50 boxes. No way. Maybe 10. You think there's actually 50 boxes in there?

You need to take her on a field trip too. No, I'm scared. I saw a mouse in there once. Last garage stall. No, I saw a mouse in our garage. Well, I was on a trap and it scarred me. You want to go get water, I always have someone from Glam come get me. I'm like, can you go? There hasn't been anyone out there or no mice, but we live in a mountain, so it's always a little scary. That is crazy. That was 2018 and you were poshing. Yeah. You were still technically working. I always say I retired you, but I'm like, technically you're still working, which- Was I? If you're doing posh, we're making money off of it. I guess I was. I guess I was.

But then I think I quit shortly after. You love posh. What is it about posh that you love so much? You know, you have such unique clothing and you get a lot of comments like that. Like, you have the number one closet, right, on Poshmark. Is it still number one? Yes. What does that mean? It's, you sell the most, you have the most listed. People say they have the most unique things, which they are. And that's why I like looking through the posh.

boxes back in your past, you bought so many cool things that I never got to see because we never really hung around. You were busy doing your thing and you were dating and I was working and we really didn't do a lot that way. Yeah. What's the closet? Give a shout out. Trish P88. On pushmark.

That's crazy. It's still number one. My mom ships out. Every day she's shipping out stuff. I'm like – and I don't even give her new stuff. I haven't given you new stuff in like, I don't know, like a couple months. Not to say I don't have new stuff to give you. But she's like every day shipping out new stuff. And I'm just like, how are people finding this? I have so much to list. And I apologize to any Poshmark people. I am going to start listing. Okay.

I've just been so busy with Trisha and her Patreon and watching Malibu, which I love dearly. Oh, yeah. I just love that little girl. We've been stocking up. Oh, she loves you so much, which is so great because we were never super close with our grandparents. I love them, but didn't see them all the time. So it's like she gets so excited to see you. When we do the podcast-

Mimi comes over, watches her, and she just gets like so excited. And then we've been doing the trips together too. Well, we haven't gone on a plane yet, but we've been doing the trips because we get the adjoining rooms and Malibu just loves to go like back and forth between us. She gets – like I truly think she's like happiest. I mean she's always happy here. She loves to come home and play. But when we're at the hotels –

She loves – like even Harris, which is just like going back and forth between the rooms. She gets so excited. It's so funny. She is. She just loves to play. She does. She loves her Mimi for sure. She's just like very loving. She's been very like loving lately and stuff. And it is such a crazy thing when you have a kid. Like now that I have a daughter, it's like so weird. Like now I just appreciate your mom more. You appreciate your parents more if you had a good parent. I was just like, God, they really did so much. Especially you, like all by yourself. It's like I can never –

if i didn't have you if i didn't have like just like it's so hard to like now we have my sister upstairs watching it's like if you don't have family it's just so hard and you didn't have family and you like raised us it's like pretty crazy yeah to think about it was hard because i didn't trust anybody even to watch you guys back in the day even you know it's like how do you know because you know now they're setting up cameras and everything even on their nanny so that's kind of scary or daycares i mean i mean

The majority probably are good, but you do see those – some daycare instances where they like yell or they like – and it's scary. You just don't know. And how do you know? And if you send your child early, they can't talk and they can't communicate with you. It's like – it is scary. It's like – I don't know what the answer is. I don't know what the solution is, but it's like –

And not everybody can stay home. So that's sad. That's sad because you just see them grow and change. And every day is different, you know. Even when I come, I don't come every day. But, you know, when I do, Malibu's just seem like she's...

two months older you know every morning when she comes to the bathroom i just see her like standing how tall she is like that is wild how like her face is so mature now and and it happens so fast that's why i think people get baby fever because it's like now i'm so excited to have like that baby stage and like enjoy it more because i know it's like not as hard as i thought the first time you know you have a baby you're like oh my god how do i take care of it in hindsight it's like pretty easy to take care of a newborn toddler stages are crazy though yeah she's doing really good though so far

I know she's not two yet, but. She's mischievous, though. Sometimes she will, if she brushes, she loves to, like, brush her teeth, but then she'll, like, put the toothpaste on the floor and look at me and I say, don't do that. And she does. And then runs away. And now she knows when she's being mischievous. She'll go to Moses. And I go, she just knows she did something. And I was just like, like a fake cry. I was just like. Oh, playing the curious. I don't get mad. I really don't get mad. I do get scared. I'm just like, no, like, we're taking this away now. And, like, then she goes to run.

to Moses so she kind of knows when she's being mischievous but it's a weird phase she's in right now where she's like her faces are the best though if you guys see her on TikTok even today we were in the makeup room and she didn't recognize me with the makeup and everything and Trisha's in one and here's her face she's like just looking back oh this I love that one how do they

She's so cute. And now she does cheese. Now she sets up the phone. She'll take the phone and just set it up and perform in it. I'm like, that's so funny. And I don't do it that much that she would see that, but I guess I do it enough. But she loves it. Well, Moses just built a bed, right, for her. And he's waiting for the mattress, so he has it down in front of the mirror. And she's performing in the mirror like it's a stage. I'm like, oh my gosh, that's so Trisha. Yeah. She's like...

Oh, she does love, she's a performer for sure. I definitely think she will be. I mean, it'd be interesting if she's a scientist. I mean, I would love that too, if she's like a mathematician scientist. Well, you made Moses into a performer on the TikToks. That last one was like, Moses is just right on with that character. I kind of is. But he was a secret performer before I met him. He danced, he did the Jesus stuff, you know? So I think he was. Did you do a movie? Yeah.

National Geographic documentary. National Geographic, he said. You don't have it right now. Yeah, he did National Geographic. He did a couple different acting. We need to see that. He did some YouTube sketches. Yeah, he did. I was like, so I think he was always a performer. He just didn't. I haven't come out more in a fish shell. But now he does upstage me. Every comment's always just like, how Moses is good.

But yeah, we haven't done TikTok. We used to do TikToks. We used to be. You're my original social media partner in crime. Those cheerleader outfits. I found them all finally. We could do that again. Oh my God. That was 2020. Do you remember the song? Remember? I don't think yet. They were so small when they came. We all had safety pins in the back and don't turn around on the show. Oh yeah. I had to switch Callie because my original one didn't fit. So I had to switch her. Do you remember the song? No. Mom. Yeah. How do you not remember it? Well, play it, Moses. We had two. We had two.

Oh, I thought he could play it. Copyright. Oh, yeah. You don't remember? Martha Dump Truck in the Flesh. Oh, yeah. Okay. What's the line? No, we can't. It's copyrighted. No, we can sing it. Why? Because it's not copyrighted. Ready? Do the next line. Martha Dump Truck in the Flesh. Here comes the cootie squad. We should...

You don't remember? No, I don't. Oh, my God. This was a long time ago. Or we did the, say a little prayer for you. In the morning I wake up. You don't remember any of that? I do, but I don't remember the words. That's why I don't remember words to any song. I never have, since I was a kid, remembered words from songs. I'm not sure you were in plays. You were in musicals. You know, when I was older.

So you had a brief thing in memory? And I did the one play, so I thought I was kind of starting dementia. So I'm going to do a play and make myself memorize things. So I did The Little Shop of Horrors and...

You mentioned dementia a lot. Do we have that in our family? Because you mentioned that now, too. You're like, I have dementia. Do you actually think you have it or what? No, but I could see me getting it. Because why, though? As you get older, you forget certain words and stuff. And I don't think that's dementia. But it's like if you forgot where you parked your car.

But no one had it in our family that you're thinking, oh, who had it? Grandma. My grandma on my mother's side had it. And then my grandma on my dad's side, his mom had Alzheimer's. So it's kind of in the family. When she was older. Yeah. Yeah. They were 90 probably.

Grandma Phillips had it. She had Alzheimer's and then my other grandma had dementia. They both ended up in a home. And that's why I think I want to exercise more and be more active, I think. And they say if you walk with somebody and talk, that cuts down on the dementia risk. Really? It's like, okay. Well, you have Callie. You guys do it together and the dogs. You have a lot of responsibilities. You do the Poshmark and the dogs and help with Malibu, Patreon. I have my fun too. What do you do for fun?

I eat what I want. I know. Oh, my gosh. That makes me so happy. I've got to say, the best thing, you guys, I'm not sponsored by Costco, but the frozen grilled cheese they have is so good. And you can make it in a minute or two. You microwave it, and then you put it in your toaster. It is so good. The cheese is so, I don't know, it's just so good. But grilled cheese is the easiest thing to make. Oh, wow. This is really good.

I know we can make a good, but I'm going to bring you one. Okay. All right. I'll try it out. All right. What kind of cheese is it? White or cheddar? It's cheddar. It's just something about, I know you think, oh, you know, it's not, but it's amazing. We should, okay. You bring yours over and I'll make mine and we'll do like a taste test to see. Okay. Right. All right. Because I feel like mine with Havarti, Gouda, cheddar, that's like the best one. Thick toast. I mean, this is what I eat sometimes just for dinner. Yeah. You were like, I can eat whatever I want, but I'm like, you kind of just, what do you eat? I like don't even know. Oh.

make salads. Those are good. But I put like bacon and cheddar and cranberry, cran raisins and sunflower seeds. And then I put Thousand Island with a little French in it and some little crunchy stuff. It's a meal. We have different tastes, but at the same time, I feel like we have similar tastes too. Cause it's like, that's something I want to eat. But when we go out to eat, you always want the same thing. You're like, I'll just have whatever you're having. I'm like, but do we like the same thing? I don't

I don't have chicken nuggets or tenders. Why did I have chicken tenders? When's the last time I've had chicken tenders? Raising canes. And you did have chicken tenders with me. Well, that's all we had. We go to Benihana. We get the Benihana trio. That's true. We went to Vegas at the sushi place. We get the same thing. You're like, oh, I'll just have whatever. You really do eat the same. I guess. Maybe. You don't eat hamburgers. You don't eat sandwiches. I eat hamburgers all the time. Oh, well, now you get to. Okay, now you do. Yes.

Shout out for In-N-Out burgers. Oh, man. That sounds so good. We didn't have a snack before this. We should have had a little snack before this. Oh, yeah. Well. I guess you're better at hanging on. Sometimes I need a little snacky snack. Well, I had the cappuccino, so. It seems if I start eating early, I'm hungry all day. Really? Isn't that weird? It opens up your stomach or something like that. So I kind of got to, you know, can't buy a whole new wardrobe right now. I love my clothes I have now. Yeah.

Get them through the Poshmark. I am a – yes. I don't have anything from Poshmark, but I usually do. Being that it is Mother's Day coming up, what is one thing – what is one thing that you wish you would have done differently as a mom and what's one thing that you're like so proud of that you did as a mom?

Definitely, I wished I would have taken more time to, you know, play with you guys at home, do things. Because, you know, once you get home from work, it's like, oh, make dinner, wash the dishes, do some laundry, da-da-da. You know, it seemed like I was so busy, and I missed out on a lot of your stuff, you know. My kids just play. Like now, I play with Malibu, you know, and she laughs. Just to hear your kids laugh, I don't remember that with, you know.

Once I wasn't with your dad, and that's what I probably regret when I get the divorce, because you don't realize how alone you are with your kids, you know, and you still have to work. So I miss that time. And maybe that's why I enjoy, well, they always say you enjoy your grandchildren more because, you know, you don't have to go to work. You can just be present with them. And she's a great little kid. I know. She really is. No, when I see her too, I love, but I love seeing you with her. I love seeing my dad with her because I feel like in that way too, it's almost like,

kind of heals a certain part of you because you know growing up you don't think about it right I don't think of like oh you didn't play with us or whatever like in fact I actually have memories I'm like oh we went to the mall we had fun but it's like then when you see like you with her or my dad with her I'm like listen I always tell myself that's a different person like especially my dad or something I was like who's this person like just playing with her laughing and like I mean it's good it's great it's great to see but it is a whole different thing so what is one thing that you're like I'm so proud this is like the best mothering tip I could give I love that I did this

I don't know if it's the best, but I think by working so much just to give you guys a memory, like going to the mall and eating out, that was everything because we didn't do that growing up. Yeah. I mean, maybe...

Once every two months, we'd go to this Jolly Troll. What's that? And we could order hamburgers and fries for a dollar. Oh, wow. And it was so special. And I thought, you know, I want to give you that thrill to go out to eat. My mom cooked all the time, right? She was a good cook. But she was a farmer, and I get it. So for me, it was fun to go out, too, to eat. Right. So I think to give you that experience of...

Not always having to eat at home, you know. I liked your cooking though. I always thought most of my – my mom used to cook a lot actually. I liked her – well, I guess because we eat the same thing now. We like plain noodles. It wasn't even butter back then. Lemon pepper chicken, biscuits, mashed potatoes and corn. Those were our two dinners. We had either pasta or – I loved it. Or pizza. Pizza when we went out. Yeah. Yeah.

I was trying to think what else we would have. That's it. Sometimes, though, if we ran low on money, we would have to have peanut butter sandwiches. I love peanut butter sandwiches. Sometimes I still have to have that. Maybe that's why, you know. Or grilled cheese. I eat all the stuff we had as kids, like grilled cheese. I love that stuff. And it's kind of interesting. But we didn't have butter on the noodles. Butter noodles was new to me. Like in 2018, I discovered butter noodles. I was like, wait, you put butter on noodles? Because we always just had them dry with the parmesan, which I liked too. But it was just so funny. I was like, that's so weird that we had that. It was good. I mean –

That's so interesting because we did have a good experience. We never went on family vacations, but we did go on one. We went to Suzanne Somers in Vegas. Oh, yeah. 2006. That's six years ago. No. It was probably 2003 because I was – Nick was gone. He was just gone. Yeah. And I graduated in 2006, so it wasn't when I graduated. Right. Exactly. So we came out 2003, I think, when Nick was out here. Yeah.

And that trip was so fun because we had never gone on a trip before. We were obsessed with Suzanne Somers for some reason. Was it because she was on QVC or something or HSN? Yeah, right. My mom loves Suzanne Somers. Rest in peace. Yeah, she was on HSN.

She was kind of the icon. She was such an icon back in the day. It was the first time we ever learned about a flat iron. Yeah. Changed our lives. Callie got her hair flat ironed by like a demo. And it was crazy. That was like our first vacation. And I think that's why I have like fond memories of Vegas too. Because I just remember you must have gotten a lot of money somewhere because all of a sudden we were like shopping at BB. You remember? It was tax refund. Wow.

That's why we went to Suzanne Summer. So, you know, my tax refund would go to do some fun. Do you remember how much it was? I want to say maybe it was $2,000 refund. And you think we went on that trip on $2,000? Yeah. Yeah. That's crazy because we were staying at the MGM. We were getting Starbucks. We were buying BB clothes. I mean, that's 21 years ago. Just...

Things were a lot cheaper then, too. You know, like rooms, I think, were still maybe $40. But we had a deal. You know, you paid one sum for all of us. And then all that was included, I believe. Oh, with the Suzanne Somers package. Because we got to meet her, go to her shows. And we ate with her. You know, we had tables. And she would come around and stuff. Wow, that's crazy. All that for $2,000. That's pretty good to know. It's so weird because now she's already gone. It's like the...

Life is so weird, isn't it? It's just like, how can somebody just disappear like that, you know? No, it's really – it is really sad. But I also think there has to be something else, right? We talked about this the other day too, just like life after death, you know what I mean? There has to be something else. We believe that. I know a lot of people don't, but we do. We have to – I mean, I want to know there is something that I'm going to see my loved ones, you know? But there just has to be.

has to be like I just think that no matter what it is if it's heaven if it's like just another if there's just like your souls I don't know there has to be because like why is life so quick what's the point of life like you know what I mean I feel like there has to be something after just like something before right you think about babies being born and stuff like the souls that come through and it's just like they come from somewhere they just came from somewhere all of a sudden you know what I mean like it's just I don't know it's

I would love to hear someone's debate on like why they wouldn't believe something just because there's no proof. But it's like, but what's the point of life then? Like we're just here for 80 years and then – Well, there can't be proof because you don't know until you've passed, you know? Right. And people have like seen the light and stuff that people have been close to death and they've seen the light. They say there is like a light. That's interesting to me. Right. What they see.

They're like, no, there's a light there that you do see. And I have to believe that too. Like I just have to – it's just like it seems – because life is so short, right? You see all these – like Susie and Summer has this like great life and then it's like so short. And then what happens after? That's why you just have to have fun in life. That's why I just try to have fun in life. And make every day count. Yeah. Because it's like life is – it can be such a struggle. You like work so hard and it's like –

You work to live, basically. It's like such a – That's why you have to stay positive as much as you can. Stay positive. Play the lottery. Actually, I can't say that. It's not gambling advice. I feel like you can't say play the lottery because then people are like, you enabled my gambling addiction. I play the lottery for that reason. One day I'm always like, I don't know even what we would do differently if I won the lottery. Like, I don't know. My dad did. He won. He played –

sometimes and he they had a little lot of what was called back in Illinois back in the day and I remember he didn't even tell his kids it was probably my mom said don't tell anybody though I want money do you think you were how old were you I was an adult because I can remember at Christmas time he gave us each $500 and I remember my my sister saying gee dad did you win the lotto

Wow. And we didn't even know. Did they tell you? They told us when he bought a new Mercury car. Wow. Yeah, you're like, wow, okay. I know, but I thought that was funny. Good for him. How much did he win? I think, I want to say he only won like $28,000. That's pretty good. Because it was a little lotto, but for him, yeah, that was huge. And they bought the car and they gave you guys money. That's pretty good though. So it's in our genes. It's in our blood. It is, you know. It's your generation now. It skipped one and then it goes to me.

That's what I says for a lot, like twins. Every other generation you have twins or every other generation. Oh, that's so interesting. Yeah, I don't know. We don't have twins in ours. No. What is one thing that you wish you could tell your mom now if she was here?

Or do with your mom? Or have her see? Is there something like, man, I wish my mom could see this. I wish we could do this together. I wish she would know this. I wish my mom could see how great my children have turned out. And she would love you guys to death. And my dad especially, he would just think you were like the biggest celebrity on the planet. He would be so proud of you. And Malibu, my mom would just love her curly little hair and her little –

And she's just entertaining, you know, like you guys. I mean, they would never in a million years think my children would have turned out, you know, you especially. It's just like, you know, you make me cry sometimes. I'm just like...

My mom does. She like texts me and she'll be like, I'm so proud of you. I was just like, oh. I mean, it's your dream and it's like that's all you want for your kids, you know? Yeah. Well, it worked out, mama. I always think that. I'm always like, oh, God, I'm like so glad it worked out because you just never know. It could have always gone like a different way. For a minute there, it's like shaky. I remember, you know, when like we first moved out to L.A. and I was like in my early 20s while we were going on dates with my sugar daddy. Yeah, right. I know. What would it be? I think I got $500. Maybe you got $100. Yeah.

Okay. I forgot about that time, but thanks for bringing that one up. And when I say sugar daddy, I really didn't have to do anything for it. We just went out with him. It was never – I never kissed him, nothing like that. Probably wanted that, but then he got a little scary. Remember one time he had like scissors with him or something? But I remember one time too we went out and then he gave me $500, he gave you $100. He's like, here's $100 for your sister. And I'm like – I told my mom, I'm like, don't tell her. I'm keeping this. I just went out on this date until 2 o'clock in the morning. But luckily my mom can come with us. Oh, hi, Callie. Now you know. Oh.

I wonder if she ever did now. I was like, no way. Because we had to stay out until 2 in the morning. Did we go to the club with him? We danced and he was a crazy dancer. He looked up on the stage. I don't think you're supposed to, but I don't like in his bibs. With no shirt on.

And then we had to go to Denny's at 2 a.m. And I was just like – But see, that's what 20s are all about. You're experimenting. You don't know what you're doing, why you're doing what you're doing, you know. It's just the 20s are just – I think if you're not kind of wild at some point in your 20s, then I don't know. You don't get out in life. Even me back then, you know. We had the disco thing. I was like disco-ing, going to contests. Were you wild in your 20s? Um –

Well, you know, I was mud wrestling, you know, just, yeah, I guess. Not as wild as you, but. Well, mud wrestling is pretty wild back then. You go out and you drink, you dance. We did more dancing, I think, at the, they weren't clubs, they were bars more so, you know. And you were out. Because you were pretty single in your early 20s, right? Like, yeah.

Because you always talk about how there wasn't really a time you were single, but you kind of were. Because I always remember, and I get why now. I always think of like, oh yeah, it's hard to raise kids on your own. You want someone to be there with you and to help you. But I always remember you just having, and I don't think this is a bad thing. I always think like, oh, my mom was so popular. She had boyfriends all the time. I could never have a boy. My sister and I talk about it all the time. We're like, my mom was getting proposed to left, right, and center. I'm like, we could never get a proposal. So I was like, it was actually impressive. But I always think of you as having a lot of boyfriends. But before us-

You were, like, kind of single from what, like, 20 to 25, was it? Mm-hmm. Yeah. As far as, like, not in a serious relationship. But you also... It was a different time, different era. You know, little towns, you know everybody. So, you know, you just kind of go out. And we're on a bowling team, so, you know, everybody at the bowling alley. And it was just a different time, you know? You just...

So at least you had a single era. I always think, oh, because you said you like being single now. You're like, I genuinely love. Which I think is a good opposite perspective because I always talk about, oh my God, I love being married. Thank God. Like I found a husband. But my mom's very opposite, which I think is like common for a lot of people where they just want to be alone. And so talk about that. Like why you love being single and why you don't look to date. Because I'm always like, you should. You should date. My mom's like young still. Yeah.

Well, it's different dating when you're younger than older. And I don't know if I said this before, but, you know, when you're younger, you do want somebody to be with, to do things with. And now that I'm older, you know, I enjoy way doing things better with my family, with you. And, you know, I've gone out on dates, but they are so set in their ways and bossy. And that didn't happen when you were younger. You're just, you know...

kind of more of a love level playing field. But now it's, it's hard because, you know, you don't know anything about them where if you stay in your hometown and you date, let's say at my age, I know most of them, you know, so I would be like, okay, yeah, but you have no connection with anybody. I have no connection with anybody out here that I would date. So, um,

I think the biggest turn up, too, is when they talk about exes or, you know, being on a dating site and this happened. It's like, I don't want to – I don't need to hear that, you know. You only have so much time in life left. Hello. Do you think it's maybe more about the people you're meeting then? What if you found a guy that was so interested in you and, like, oh, what do you want to do? What is your interest? And didn't talk about that stuff. So maybe it's, like, the guys you've dated that are just always talking about their pasts.

I don't know. I want a Moses too, like everybody else. That's what I'm saying. They're not out there until now. Yeah. I think it is interesting though, because we learned from the Golden Bachelor that

The older you are, you're kind of more set in your way. You want to be around your family. You don't want to split the time, which is kind of hard, I think. And that show led people on, which most reality shows do. Like, oh, yeah, he wants to find love and blah, blah, blah. But he didn't. It's coming out now. He wasn't ever going to move away from his family because he goes, oh, we were looking for houses in North Carolina. And there was one comment that said, you couldn't find a house anywhere.

out of all the weeks you guys were looking. So, you know. They just didn't want to make it work. It's just like that total show was such a lie as far as he was concerned. Yeah. And that's like, I don't know. I know they're going to have a golden bachelorette, so I hope they do it differently. At least, you know, don't lie so much. I think the thing that really bugged me, and I know I've told you this, when they go, oh, he was a restaurateur. I'm like. Wait, why did that bug you? The dude owned a hamburger joint in 1985 and he sold it.

That's not a restaurateur. I think this is why you didn't get picked. Just like people say, I'm a model. Well, they could have been. That one girl was a dancer on Soul Train or something like that. I know, but I mean when they really aren't a model, you know.

Or I'm an actress and they've never done anything. Just, I mean, you know, just be honest with people. I think that's why they're so disillusioned now. They don't even want another Golden Bachelor. So I think for TV, you probably have to like, I think I lied on Ellen. What did I say? I was like a computer programmer or that was America's Got Talent. I'm like a computer programmer, but I work at my house. So no one ever sees me. A USB drive requires power from a computer to work. True or false? True.

No idea. You don't know? What is it? A USB? No idea what that is. I think you just got to like. I think you know how to do a computer. That's what I'm saying. I feel like, okay, you model. You were on Instagram. You know what I mean? Technically, you're a model. We had a photo shoot today. You could also say you're a model. So I feel like. True. You know, do something once and just say it. I guess. Just have it, whatever. But I think they come out now saying he just wanted the fame and the money. Yeah.

That's crazy. Because they were saying she didn't want to get married, but they had this all going and they were already getting paid. And I'm sure he needed the money. You guys have to know too, my mom keeps talking about every current event. I always say she'd have a podcast. Every morning I get texts. What is it on your Facebook newsreel? Oh, right. Every morning. And then even Dan Glam, she's like, oh, Brittany's got a new boyfriend. I was like, what? Who are you talking about? What are you talking about? And I was like, yeah, they haven't shown his picture yet. I was just like, you literally know everything about every pop culture.

pop culture, which I think is so interesting. I'd be scared for you to have a podcast because I just feel like you do say whatever comes to your mind, which is like a beautiful thing, but also like in the world of YouTube. Well, that's how my YouTube's were. I never edited because I like forget it. It was just so hard to learn. So I didn't edit. So there's a lot of probably bloopers on there. So you just say whatever, whatever comes to your mind. Editing just takes so long. I'm just going to make a video. There's up. People do miss your TikToks and your lives. Yeah.

I have a busy life right now. You just go through phases. You're just like, sometimes I like to do it, sometimes I don't. Yeah. You know, by time I spend time with my family and the gym and I go to bed early. You're just like, I like my sleep now. That's so interesting. Are you on it? Are you on social media? Like, do you look at it? Oh, yeah, I do. I don't, you know, follow a lot of people, but I...

I do. TikTok has changed to me and I don't enjoy it as much. You know, you got so many people on live and so many people selling stuff now. Everything is like every other thing I do. So it's like I don't have time for that. I just, you know.

Want ads free, no lives, because there's just so much silly and stupid. You love animal stuff. You love all the animal ones. I do. I like the positive animal ones. Are you staying away now from true crime?

You know, I have. Thank God. You told me, you know, you're watching that too much. And you know, now that I've been away from it, I do see how it can affect your life. It was affecting me. You'd come over and be like, did you hear about this person? They got murdered and this and that. I'm like, mom, don't tell me about this stuff. Like, why do I want to know it? You know why? Because I never knew that stuff existed. You know, I lived in a sheltered life until I was probably...

25 when I met your dad, you know? Oh my gosh. Because I didn't even know there were really other states what you would do to go visit and stuff. That's how, bleh. I mean, that thought's like, I know it exists. I don't want to hear the graphic detail and then it's in my head and it's like, okay, I have to hear all this stuff. Did you know it existed as a child?

Yeah, of course. How did you know? You always hear like even OJ Simpson who was like I was like 10 or something when it happened. I mean, you just hear that stuff. Oh, well, yeah. Or reading books in school. But I was older. In Cold Blood was a big book that was. But I mean back in Illinois. Did you hear anything that happened? Yeah, that In Cold Blood was in Kansas or something like that. Like the one that was the farm town that like all the family was unalived. I didn't know that till I read the book either. Well, didn't you read the book in school? No. When did you read the book? When you were an adult? Yeah. Mm-hmm.

Or Texas Chainsaw Massacre or any of those things. You just see it and you're just like, okay, this is a real story. So you just know it happens. But I don't want to know the details. I don't want to see it. I don't want to visualize it happening. The only thing that happened back in the day, my mom would talk about it, and it came up on my newsreel even. It happened in Pecatonica, Illinois. These two men had just vanished. And my mom was just like, where did they go? That was big back then. I want to say 1976 maybe that happened. 1976.

And one was a realtor and they went to a farm auction. I guess they always carried cash with them, but they disappeared. And it came up, what, 40 years later now, that they found the car in the Pecatonica River,

And they're going to see if there's any bodies in there. And I haven't heard any updates yet. No updates? 40 years later, that came up. Isn't that weird? How did they not give an update? They should know. It should be easy to find if there's people in there or not. Well, they just had to get the car out of the river yet. But it's like. And that was the town I grew up in. Well, for a couple of years, I guess we went there. Right. Yes. Shout out, Pecatonica. Bless you. What was that? Oh, that's crazy. That was the only really big story that ever happened.

Yeah, people are scared of like coming to LA and like big cities and stuff because they, you know, you always hear, oh, people disappear there. There's, you know, whatever. But it's like the small towns, I feel like they get away with more because it's like so like mysterious. It doesn't get brought up in the world news. You know what I mean? So I feel like the small towns, you always have to be a little warm. Well, the small towns are on the ID channels and that. So now we're going back

I love that you're not. Maybe that's the difference in you. Maybe you're not watching that as much because you're so bright and happy. I'm just like, okay, you have more energy. I'm like, maybe that was making you

But do you want to know what I am watching? They're very interesting. Let's. Yes. This is your interview. My new thing, it's on, it's called Lone Star Law. Love that show. There's the Northwoods. It's all on the same channel. It's like Game Wardens, but there actually can kind of be like cops too. Is it scripted or reality? No, it's reality. But what's it about?

Like they catch people that don't have hunting licenses or they're wanted on a felony then because they always run their name through. And these people always lie like, no, I didn't kill that deer. No, I didn't drag it there. Stuff like that. It sounds stupid, but it's really good how people are. Is there a hot person on there? Oh, no, no. I feel like you always like, you love Dirty Jobs because it was a hot host. Oh, yeah. What was the other one? There was another true crime guy you loved. Oh, yeah.

I know. What was his name? Joe or something? Oh, yeah. He was a detective. Yeah. Joe Kendra. They retired his show, but now he comes on and talks about another one, but...

Not a fan as much anymore. So now you're into Lone... What's it called? Lone Star? Lone Star Law. And there's no host or anything of it. You just love the show. The wardens have their cameras and their things and on the people, sometimes they'll blur them out. But then ATVs that go in personal property or people that have done things on other people's property they shouldn't have. But I just find it amazing. I guess human nature, I'm thinking... Because the...

the guys are so nice, these wardens, game wardens, and the people are just like mean and it's like... What town are they in? Are they in Texas? Yeah, Texas. All over Texas. Okay. But I just human nature, I'm thinking, why are you guys lying? They're going to find out. And they always do. You know, it's like just amazes me how people are that they can't ever tell the truth, you know? Well, they're probably like scared to get in trouble or something like that. Well, of course. Nobody wants to go to jail, but...

I'm thinking – and they know. They know they did wrong. I'm like, wow. That's so funny. And so is it like – are they showing live footage of all this stuff? Is it like body cam footage? Yeah. It's all live, which I like. Our TV – what we watch on TV is so different. Every time we watch a show, I'm like there's – I always try to get her into shows I like, but I feel like – I know. What was the last one you wanted me to watch? Lost, Desperate Housewives. What was that? Was that Burgerton?

Well, we haven't even watched that yet. It comes out May 16th. Oh. Was that the one I wanted? No, there must have been another one I wanted to get you to watch. There was another one, too. Oh, my God. I love Only Murders in the Building, White Lotus. Where is that White Lotus? Anyway, that next season. Well, I think they just finished filming it. Oh, okay. I'm not in it, though, unfortunately. Well, when you guys start your own production company-

No, you can have it be purple, whatever these are. It was serial A. This is from Desperate Housewives. Well, I didn't want to do it. I tried to get you to watch Traitors. You didn't watch that. I was like, I tried to get her to watch my – but every time you give us a recommendation, I'm just like, absolutely not. That show sounds horrible too. So I feel like we're just – You never did see that Key West one. That was really good. What is that? I don't even remember, but that was a really good show. You don't remember what it was? No. Okay. It was down the – you know. It was down at Key West. Yeah, right. Yeah.

Now I want to live there. I think it's so cool down there. Was it like, okay, but is it like you're shopping for houses down there? It's a reality show. Like what was it? Oh, no, it's just a TV show they put together, but it's really good. Sissy Spacek's in it. Oh, it was scripted. Yeah, yeah.

I would always come over and it's like we watch the ones where they show them like three different houses and then they have to pick houses. I don't know what that one was. Oh, that's on HGTV, isn't it? Well, you watched it. Where they want to live by the beach. Oh, yeah. That one we always watch. Beachfront properties. Yeah. I think Living Alone or what was that one? Naked and Afraid or I don't know. What was the one? Okay. I've never watched Naked and Afraid. No. But you know. What's that one they watched? The like stranded. They were like stranded alone. Oh, there was something.

There was like in the middle of like the snow. These people would just be surviving. Okay, alone. Alone. That was good. Farmer wants a wife. That one you watch. That never works out. We're just getting to the last episode of this one, but they never stick together. Oh, yeah. Somebody feed Phil. You loved him. Yes. And we didn't get to meet him, but we did get to see him so often.

When we went to Vegas, Donny Osmond – we obviously went for Donny Osmond. And like literally he's like the next day was going to be on Somebody Feed Phil live from Harrah's. And I was like this is so weird. That was like my mom's favorite person. And they sat by you in the next booth.

I'm so envious. I did take a secret picture. I never do this and I think it's so annoying when people do it to me or any celebrity. But Moses and him were sitting right next to each other and I was just like, my mom was watching Malibu in the room and I was just like, I did one of those like selfies. I was trying to take a Moses but I wanted to get Phil in the background. But you knew I loved him. So I love you, Phil. I know you're watching. He was pretty

good he was pretty good you had to see him live it is crazy because you just like love him so much so it's just like i know his podcast with donnie well we love everybody loves him in fact we're watching it now me and callie and it's like i've never seen it that's so funny you guys need to watch that it is so funny especially as you know you're married and it's a lot of marriage stuff and is it like drama though like no no it's funny stuff they argue

Not like that. Because like King of Queens, everyone's like, you need to watch it. It's so funny. But they just argue the whole time and she calls him fat. It's not like that. No. It's more humor. Funny humor. Anytime there's like couples fighting in a show, I'm just like, I don't want to see this. It's fun because they don't fight mean and they don't usually fight. It's about like his family lives across the street. So it's a lot of comic stuff like that. You would love it. And it's based on Phil's life or what? Yeah, I guess. Yeah.

And I think maybe Raymond's, maybe. I don't know. I don't think I could get into it. You could. I don't know. You should try it. Because I tried King of Queens, too, and I was just like, I just can't. No, I don't think that would be your thing. You loved it, though. I did. You loved Friends. It was funny. My mom and sister loved Friends. I've never seen Friends. I don't know if I loved it. Kelly loves it, and that's why we watched it. But even now I watch it and I was like, oh. I can't get into that show at all. I never really got the hype of it. Probably at the time it was cool. Yeah.

Now I don't think it's even politically correct. You guys used to watch Golden Girls when I was growing up? It's like just weird shows that I never was into. We didn't have a lot of choices though back then. We didn't have all this Paramount Plus or Disney and all that. We just had good old fashioned TV channels. Well, we rented a lot of movies. I remember we... I did. We used to go to those video rental stores and I would get like a ton of movies to watch. But I guess you... I don't know. Yeah, that's true. We did Blockbuster a lot. Yeah. Or we saw the movies a lot too. But yeah, TV shows...

I guess I don't remember like watching shows as a family. I don't know. So you really didn't? I, yeah. Like you just worked at night a lot. Like you just worked a lot. So whether it was like bartending or. I feel you guys played a lot too.

With beads and – The beads. The drama. There's a bead situation. Oh, my God. The bead story never ending. We did. And especially in Concord Drive, we played a lot downstairs in the basement. Nick would play with us. Like we played Nancy Drew or we had the backyard where it was like – we had trees and like they would have like little like arrowheads like from – I don't know where those arrowheads would come from. Oh, yeah. I do remember that. Was there like – they must have been like Native Americans because the towns were Native American themed. Yeah.

Not theme, sorry, but the names. Like Winnebago, named after a tribe. Pecatonica was named after a tribe. Oregon. Blackhawk. The statue of Blackhawk's in Oregon, isn't it? They had that. So I think it was like a Native American, indigenous...

Because our backyard would have like arrowheads. And then I had a teacher who was part Native American. And I'd like bring it to him. And I'd be like, oh my God, look what we found. It was kind of like exciting to see all the stuff back there. And he'd be like, where would you find this? And it was just like – and actually I think he wanted to keep it. It was like really crazy. Stuff that I just don't even think about. I'm like, I guess we did play a lot. Our imagination. The trees out front. We had that little stage and we performed on. So I guess we did play.

I watch a lot of TV, but I feel like we balance it out with playing outside. Yeah, I don't remember watching much TV. Definitely not together. The only thing I can remember watching was when Princess Diana passed away. Really? I don't remember that. I remember that coming on. I'm like, oh. And then it's like, you know, because I haven't known many people that have passed. So she was one of the first. I'm like, oh, that's really weird. Oh, did it shake you?

It did, you know. Not that I followed her at all, but, you know, I thought, wow, that's pretty big. That's interesting that you would, yeah, because you weren't too...

No, the celebrities or royals or anything. I couldn't tell you who I knew back then. We did buy a lot of magazines, though. We used to buy a lot of tabloids. You used to always buy Star, Us Weekly. I don't know why. You were always buying them. It wasn't for the fashion, obviously. I guess because we didn't have social media. It's kind of like your way to keep up to date, maybe. That could be, yeah. Interesting about the Princess Diana. I don't remember that at all. I don't remember her passing away or anything. But you just saw it on the news and you were just like,

Yeah, I think I just happened to walk by and I'm like, wait, what? Well, now we're a part of the royal family. My uterus apparently is just like Ghostbusters, just having all the royal family come through, which is like so weird. Hopefully King Charles is staying okay. I guess he's back to work now. He's back on duty or whatever that means. I don't know. Okay.

My mom keeps up with the royal family. You keep up with – Now I do. Like literally – Because I cannot believe Prince Harry left. That just is mind-boggling to me. It's like, wow. My mom's always giving me updates on – there's two people he gave me updates on that I know nothing about. And that's Prince Harry and Meghan Markle. And I'm like, I have no idea who – I don't know what this is about. And Kanye West and his girlfriend. Oh, yes. And I'm like, Mom, I don't know who this person is. She's like, oh, did you see them at this thing? It's like –

So random that you keep up with them. Well, they're always in the news. I never see them. Her outfits are, you know. I'm surprised she has not gotten arrested, though. I mean, she's out there almost naked. Anybody else would get arrested. That would be an interesting thing to try, right? Like, I go to Disneyland in the same outfit. Exactly. Exactly.

Yeah. My mom keeps up. You keep up with all the pop culture, which is kind of crazy because it is like something you didn't do when we were growing up, but now you're just on it. Well, even today you got educated having your makeup with your makeup artist. Which one? A lot of things. What was it? You didn't know anything about Jeff Bezos. Oh.

New fiance. My mom's like, oh my God. It's like, they're always out there in the news. Do you know anything? My mom literally was just like, oh, Jeff Bezos, new fiance. I'm like, what? Does he have, I didn't know he had a new fiance. I thought he was married. Like, I didn't know anything about him. And you know her name. You're like, Lauren Sanchez. Well, I remember watching Channel 11 News and they were all like,

The girls that always were on there were looking dressed like they were going to a nightclub. And this was like eight o'clock in the morning. Maybe that's how L.A. always did it. But that's how you remembered them, you know. When did you watch her? When was that on? I watched her, I think, well, early, I think 2011. When you're living out here. Yeah. Okay. Okay. Yes. Yes. And you remember her from all that time? Yeah. And now you're like, oh, that woman. I remember her. Yeah. I do. I do.

And what do you know about Jeff Bezos? But I don't remember what I did yesterday, so no. Your memory is funny because you do have a good memory sometimes and then sometimes you're like, oh, I don't know. That's a short-term memory, a long-term memory. I guess it does. Yeah, I guess that's a – so what do you know about Jeff Bezos?

That he's very rich. But you keep up with him. So what's new? What's in the news? I remember, you know, his wife got a lot of the money too. And she donated billions to charities. And people, I mean, I guess they were upset. They thought, oh, he's going to be so upset. She's giving away all his money. But it's like, well, you know, she can do what she wants with it. How long were they married for? I don't know. Quite a while, I think.

So that's – what do you think about that? So that's interesting. I always think this is like an interesting topic, right? It's like, oh, she's giving away all his money. But it's like, don't you think she earned some of that money being married? That's why you have to watch Everybody Loves Rima. And that was one segment. Oh, what was it? She's like –

She's not spending my money. And she's like, because she's a stay-at-home mom. So she started making bills for washing the dishes, travel to the kids. Oh, they were very ahead of their time then. Yeah, yeah. Because that is so true, right? You always hear that. And it is crazy. Like in divorces where you could be married. I see it on TikTok all the time. They're married 20 years.

The husband wants a divorce. They don't have any work experience, no education. They took care of the kids this whole time. So now they're left with like no money. And I'm like, that is crazy that you can just end a marriage and not have to pay this person while you made all the money and they took care of the kids in the house and then like just leave behind dry and they have nowhere to go or no experience. Well, California law is different. If you've been married, what, 10 years? Yeah.

you get alimony. I think it should be no matter what, well, I guess 10 years, yeah, you put in a lot of work, but it's like, if you're taking care of the house and taking care of the kids, I mean, that is such a huge expense. Like, housekeepers and all, it's just like so, I learned that when we had a baby. I was like, wow, it's really crazy and we have help, we have you, we have a housekeeper, we have all this stuff like that, but it's just like,

They still do. It's just so much work. And if your spouse left and, you know, he didn't have a really good job and can't pay her anything, then she has to start from scratch, you know? Yeah. That's the bad part. It's just...

Or supporting. Life is tough for a lot of people. I know. And just like. I think for everybody at one time in their lives, it has to, you know. Yeah. Be tough. When you have a, but it's like, yeah, if someone's like quitting their job to support the family or supporting you or supporting your career, it's like, yeah, you should be able to like. It is crazy. So that is wild when people get divorced and they're like, and we see it with the girls too. We see it with women, right? Like Kelly Clarkson has it, but it's like,

I don't know the situation. I'm not like judging it, but I'm just saying like if he helped her with her career, like is he entitled to that? I don't know. I don't know that situation, but you think he should be entitled to some money if you've helped someone get to where they're at. Well, I think he helped himself to some of the money anyway because he was a manager or something of her. Yeah, but it's like – I think he got compensated too. I don't know. That one's really messed up. There was another one too recently with a woman that made more.

And she had a, hey, I forgot who it was, but. Britney Spears. Well, that's a whole different thing when it comes like the dad and the mom. I mean, she's just really, you know, when your parents are involved, it's a whole thing. You know, that's one, that's one person I can't figure out. Britney Spears? Yeah. What do you mean? Like. We love her. We stand her. I know. We do. But, you know, you watch her TikToks or you hear things about her. It's like, is she actually really all together there? Yeah.

Or is it a facade? You know? Yeah. I want to say it's a facade and that she's great and, you know, but. I'm sure she definitely has like issues. I think she's just trying to express herself. She's able to now. But I think. Yeah, I think she's got to make up for them. What? 13 years. I think she's just being her goofy self. That's what I like to think. But also like everyone has. Oh my God, there's the fly. Ah.

That's a big horsefly. The horseflies are everywhere. We've had so many lately. We've had like three big horseflies. You need a cat. Don't they eat flies? We do not need a cat. Where is Moses' cat? I'm like, that would be a big, big fly. She loves it. Um,

I think she's living her best life. I think everyone has. I mean, you probably all have trauma at that point. It's too bad she has to put it out there, though, because everybody's so judgmental. She's kind of low-key now, I feel. I don't think she puts out too much right now. No. Well, I looked yesterday on her Instagram, and it was nothing there. Nothing? Was it completely gone? Yeah. She blocked you. Because I think she's on it. I don't follow her, but...

Every once in a while, she'll have a clean page. Maybe it's up now. I think it's up now. Can you check that, Moses? Poor Moses over there with the check back all the time. I think people think Moses is back there like checking facts all the time. We had another guest do that too. They're like, bring it up, Moses. He's just like – he's just trying to play his whatever. What is it? Pokemon Go or something. He's like, when are these women going to stop talking? Oh, the premiere. Okay. You're watching that. I don't know.

Sorry, sorry. Oh my God. There's like ants. Oh, it's probably from here. You just brought them in. Oh my God. That's so scary. Oh, sorry. No, no, no. It's fine. I think it's from the plant. Cause he just brought the plants in and stuff like that. Um,

Sorry, I got distracted. Also, I don't know who was telling us that, but her son's turning 18, so she won't have to give child support. But somebody said when they move to Hawaii, they can do it for two. I don't believe that. So they're like 26 or something? I don't believe that. Have you ever heard that, Moses? Not that that's on your repertoire. No, definitely he's not going to get support once he's 18.

They're saying Hawaii is 24. Somebody said that. Just one person. But I think it's 18 all over the United States. I don't think she's subjected to Hawaii at all. Right, just because they moved there. Yeah, I don't think so either. Maybe that was the one I was thinking. Because then there are people who just take advantage. Because then everybody would move into Hawaii.

You know, who are breaking up with children. It's true. Well, that's why I never got remarried, right? Because if you get remarried, you don't get alimony. Oh, he got married. He got married. So the alimony stops. I don't think they got married. Are you sure? I thought they did. I think it stops. I mean, I don't know. I'm pretty sure because I know someone else who gets alimony and like she's not getting married because she's like, I don't want those checks to stop. Yeah.

Which is like if you have a new partner in a new relationship, okay, maybe stop taking the support at that point. You kind of like found – Well, they weren't married 10 years. Who? Her and – Right. But there probably was like some agreement or something. Right. It probably stopped at a certain point. Yeah. I don't know how that works. Which is why maybe he wanted more child support. Right. And how much was he getting? Sometimes the child support is ridiculous. Like it's like $50,000. Like do you need that much for a kid? I think he was getting 60 now I think. Wow.

when they went back to court. That's wild. Because I think he was only getting $20,000 or something. Then I think there's like a little point of being greedy. Like I guess she makes a lot of money, but it's like, I mean, really, do you need that much for a child per month? I don't think so. Look at Kim Kardashian. Does she pay? I think he pays her. What? Really? I want to say it was over $220,000 a month. That's crazy. Does he make that kind of money? Wow. Do you think he makes more than Kim Kardashian? He's worth more? He was a billionaire before she was. Yeah. Wow. Wow.

Oh, okay. Well, and there's two rich people. It's like really at that point, do you even need to have – That's what I thought. Wow. What does she do with all her money? It is crazy. I know. It's like Jeff Bezos, Michael Jordan, like those people whose wives supported them. I get that. But it's like people who are just like equally rich. Right. I know. Why? You're really going to go to court. Obviously, he was a lot more richer than her. And like how much – yeah, how much money do you possibly need? That's what I would like to know because it's like at that level of the Kardashians, it's like do you really need more – Nice.

You can't need more money. There's just no way. You have infinite wealth, generational wealth. It's just going to like all that stuff. I know. Which is like wild to me. I don't know. Money is so interesting in this world. It's just like – Some people are just so greedy all the time. Well, there was a new one. Who is it? They're suing – You're going to catch that fly? Sorry. Oh, okay. Okay. We're back until it shows again.

Sorry, we were having flat issues. We were just talking about our shoes. I love these. Beautiful. But I don't know how you keep them on your feet. I'm surprised I haven't lost one. I guess that's why I like this one because this is like keeping it nice and secure. I get so many compliments on these. I don't know if you can see them, but you get so many compliments on these. Who are those? It's called Katie. K-H-A-I-T-E. Katie? I don't know how you say it, but I think we have the same designers on there.

Let me just check. Oh, no. Oh, yeah. Yeah, it's the same. K-H-A-I-T-E. A-I-T-E. They're bougie. I like them. They are very bougie. What is one thing we should do as mother and daughter while we're still young? And what's a dream you have? Oh, thank you. I'm 65 years young. You are. Just you and me? Anything. Just in life. What would you like to do together? What would you like to do, period? What dreams can we make happen for you, Mama? We can be together or not together. Do you have one?

This is your interview. I'm asking you. I'm back interviewing. Maybe if you go first, I get a little jog something. I have so many dreams. I always talk about all our dreams. I want to go... But that's what I'm saying. Our dreams are so different. I want to take you to Italy. My mom doesn't care about going to Europe at all. I'm like, I want to go to Italy. I want to go see all the Disneys. I want to get... I want to be able to give my mom a lazy river. I want in her house, lake house. I want to...

Wow. I think my mom will get married. This is my prediction. I feel like she actually will get married again. She's so like, I like being alone. I like to eat my own things. But I feel like you are going to one day. Why would I get married? What would be the purpose of it? I don't know. Why did you get married before?

Well, I was younger. But, I mean, older. You love getting married. Why can't we just live? Even I wouldn't live together with somebody. I want my own place, too, on my own things. Well, you've been married a couple times, and so you must like to be married. When I was younger, it was fine. But now I don't want to say, if I want to take a nap, I don't want somebody to say, don't. Why are you sleeping? Were you with someone that traumatized you that didn't want you to sleep or something? Did someone tell you, like, stop taking? Yeah. And that was when I was working at the post office. Well, I can't say. Okay, okay.

Well, I don't know. Okay. Yeah. Got it. Okay. And he would be like, why are you taking a nap? Yes. I always have to be working if I was home. So the trauma is real. Okay. I get it. You had a little bit of a traumatic. As a retired couple, it might be different. Yeah. As a retired couple, it might be different. They probably love taking naps. Everyone I know, my dad was taking a nap. You mean now that they've been together forever or something? My dad takes naps for like four hours a day. He's always taking naps. Oh. Yeah. But sometimes, in fact, it was on Everybody Loves Raymond. She's like...

Have your father come over. I need some time to myself. He's just always on me after he retired. It's like... Oh, my gosh. Yeah. I feel like that person now would love to take a nap. The one that you said. I feel like now he's like a napper. Oh, probably. Age is... Yeah. Age does it to you. But, you know, I just... I would like somebody to be a friend with, but I don't want to move in with them, you know? Yeah. Because...

I have my own – on my own life, the guy who I'm talking to now, it's like he's happy in his life too. Gee, that's like breaking news right there. You are talking to someone right now. Well, not dating, but, you know, but if you have that same goal, you know, like I love my family and I have this to do and he has got that to do. And even if we would see each other once a week, that's enough, you know. Yeah. I don't need somebody full time because –

I like me. You like to be... I like to be with me. So what's a dream for just you? Like, don't even think about us in the picture, just you. Like, what's a dream? We're like, we talk about, we play the lottery a lot. So it's like, where do you see, you win the lottery, then what? You know, I guess I, not that I ever want to go on a cruise because I've heard so many bad things about a cruise, but that cruise that was going for what, 110 or how many?

Oh. Three years. I would have done something like that. If I was by myself, I would have done that. Really? Do you want to go on a cruise? Yeah. And they canceled it without telling people, I guess. And people were... I sold their homes and everything. And I'm like, they don't know where to go. So...

Yeah. Well, we can send you on a cruise. I didn't know that's your dream. Where do you want to go? That was one I thought because a lot of people are selling their homes and living on cruise ships. Oh. Forever because they said it's cheaper. You can relax more and play and you don't have any payments. So that's kind of cool. Would you just go by yourself then? I think it's scary to go by yourself though because it's like then –

That's when the weird stuff happens. Like people go missing. I feel that kind of cruise would be all older people. Right. Retired. Because who's got three years out of their life unless you can work off a boat, I guess. But I don't want to go on a regular cruise.

Well, this is probably how the other one is, but they were saying how everybody's got to eat at the same time and you're all always around people. What kind of cruise is that where you eat at the same time? Well, you know how everything's a buffet and there's people all in the pool. You see pools. They go, this is how they put it on the pamphlet. But then she has, this is how it is. Everybody's shoulder to shoulder. Really? So.

So I suppose that three-year cruise would be like that too. The cruise I went on, I just remember you could eat anytime you wanted. They always had food all the time. Did you notice it was really crowded though? I guess we didn't go to the pool. Not really. Like when you walked around where there are always people? Well, yeah. But you could do dancing classes. I changed my mind. I don't want to go on that three-year cruise. I just would like to just go somewhere. Is there a dream destination? Dream house? Dream thing? Yeah.

I don't know if there's a destination because I don't know what a lot of places look like. Tropical, you know, just laying in a hammock. I like the water house, but I want to go to where you went, the Maldives. Maldives is too far. I think Fort Borey, like it's a little closer. Yeah, I would like to try something like that. You like Hawaii? I do like Hawaii. You don't like the Bahamas? No. No.

No. So you're very – I like the water, though. You want an RV and a tiny home. I know that. RV, yes. Motorhome. I could live in one. I would get you a motorhome. Okay. It's so funny because my mom was like, if I won the lottery, she's like, I just want a motorhome. I was like, don't you want like a house or – Right. Well, I lived in a motorhome with a man before for a couple months. And so now I know, like you go, well, what do you do? How do you change your bathroom? I was like, I could do that now. But I thought you didn't like that experience. No.

Well, by myself, I would like it, you know, with our dogs. I love that.

I liked the idea, but with him, once again, you're with somebody and you got to do what they want to do. So it's like. He seemed to be pretty easygoing. I don't remember much, but I kind of remember him being easygoing. This was when I was an adult. He seemed to be kind of on your schedule. But I wasn't ready for that lifestyle because, you know, you were in Sherman Oaks and Cali and I wanted to be part of your lives because that was the first I was really involved in it. So I wasn't ready for that kind of.

That's true. Because I had a family I loved and I wanted to get to know more. Yeah. We had that apartment together. So my mom was like, oh. So it has to be the right time. RV life. Maybe he's calling for you. And it wasn't his thing because his family was somewhere in another state. I would love to have a private chef too. So after this right now, could you imagine? Be like, can we have some nachos grande ready? I'm really into nachos grande lately and I can't find a good one. I even put out a thing looking for a chef in the area. I could do it. Let me try it next time. Mom.

Have you ever had mine? You melt them in like the air fryer or something. No, the way I did it before when I was 26, I put it in a big cookie sheet. Okay. And you layer it, those chips and the cheese and chips and the cheese. And then if you like the shredded chicken, what I would get, I could do my own chicken, but I get the rotisserie chicken and put on the seasonings that you like. Okay. And bake that and then put it on the nachos and then stick it in the oven and...

bacon i guess yeah that sounds pretty simple but i like the ooey gooey cheese and like how do they do that there's certain cheeses are gooey or yes they told me this morning there's like huaca or something it's called huaca and it's like at the spanish markets it's like the vallarta's i think it's called huaca and they're like that's the cheese they use for like so i'm like okay we need to go there there's one in simi valley there's a vallarta there so maybe i'll go get the cheese because i was like oh this would be so great too it's all about the cheese

I love it. Is that your favorite? What, nachos? Cheese. Cheese out of it. Yeah, I know. Is that on your notes? Where's your notes? Oh, the notes are all up here. You're just winging it? Wow. Yeah, mama. I'm winging it too. What's your Mother's Day dream this year? We have Mother's Day coming up in a few days. My Mother's Day dream is that Elvis and you will make it through your pregnancy, keep you strong and healthy.

So she can join us for the next one. I know. Maybe she'll still be here before Mother's Day. We don't know. I know. Your peoples are probably thinking, oh, I hope she has it right now. Oh, we got to go. It is crazy. I think when we were taking photos before, too, I was getting dizzy. And my photographer was like, are you okay? Should we? I was like, yeah, I'm fine. Well, her suitcase is right over there, ready to go. Yes, we do have the bags ready. So do you have your bag ready? Halfway. Okay.

You gotta bring it over. I'm gonna put sweats and jammies on and that's it. But your contacts and all that stuff like that. Yeah, I'm gonna get it around on Wednesday since I have the day off. Okay. I need to get myself around on Wednesday too. I was like, okay, so. All right, that's the plan then. Yep. We're just gonna be low-key here. Yeah. I wonder what I'm gonna feed her.

Well, we have food. Okay. We have the quesadillas. You know, you know we have quesadillas, eggs. I want to have a rotisserie chicken for her. She loves that. We can get that. We can definitely get that. We can get all of it. We'll have it stocked up. I get on my way over when you call me. Huh? I get that on the way over when you call me. Oh, my gosh. Be like, actually, I need a – what was it the other day? Oh, I need to stop at the post office before. I was like, okay, let's just come over. Did you get that out, the Poshmark? I did. Yes. Yes. Thank you all so much. I love Mother's Day. I just think it's a great time to appreciate your mom.

mom. It is. All the stuff that they do. And sadly, that's how only some people do it once a year, you know?

And maybe they don't get to see him all the time, you know, either. Yeah. So we are very fortunate. I'm very fortunate. That's true. When you're in, like, a different state than your mom, it's, like, hard and it's just, like – Right. It is weird when you grow older, too, you just, like, realize how much more you need your mom. I think even with, like, my brothers, like, they just, like, realize, like, oh, I kind of need a mom. You go through that phase, like, in your 20s where, like, I'm just independent, whatever. And then it comes back around and you're just, like, you know, it's just, like, so nice to have, like, your mom again. You know, one day they go, you know, one day she's going to –

really need me and yeah because I know how I was in my 20s I didn't really talk to my parents much you know try to get together once in a while but you're busy on your own you know oh it's so exciting I feel like 20s is just like okay this whole new world and it's like you're free you're an adult oh yeah it's just like it was the best thing ever but then but then we were just together a lot in my 20s too because we ended up having an apartment together and then you lived close to me by the beach when I lived at the beach you moved we lived close together so you were really busy I didn't see you a whole lot

In my early 20s? When you were at the beach playa. Oh, yeah. I was in love. I feel like whenever I'm in love, it was like always that. You were in love a couple times, I think, there. Yes, I was. That was, oh, God, I was in love with. And I would just wait around all day. I wouldn't want to see anyone or hang out with anyone because I'm like, what if he wants to come over? Even though I always tell him like once a week or once every two weeks, he might want to come over today. And so I didn't want to like make plans with anybody just in case. Well, that's everybody, I think, when you got a guy. I don't think it is. I think it's just us. Oh, okay.

I don't know. I think people like have healthy relationships. Yeah, I suppose. Keep their family and friendships. Back then, it was like you put your guy first, you know, or whatever.

Where we grew up. We were definitely those people for sure. Yeah. And it's like, I think it's not a bad thing, but yeah, if you're like- No, but a lot of them were stay-at-home women, you know? What? Farmer women. They were all about the stay-at-home, yeah. Yeah. Well, we prioritized- Yeah, it was a weird thing. I prioritized dating and I was like, that was so stupid. I did the same thing. But it's like, that's my regret. I'm like, God, I wish I would have like-

Not done that. You know what I mean? Like I would cancel auditions. I wouldn't show up to stuff. And I was like, God, I wish I didn't put like a guy first. Like, you know what I mean? Like I think that stuff works itself out. Anytime I do cameos and they always ask for advice for 20 years, I'm like, just like live your life. Love. Everything like works out later. Like don't stress about it. You know what I mean? I was so stressed about it. And I was like, I need to find love now in my 20s. And just. But that's life. You work through it.

Yeah, that's true. And you couldn't tell Malibu at that age, you couldn't tell her, don't do this. They got to learn it themselves. I hope she would listen to some of my advice. I was trying to think of advice you've given me and I was like, what did my mom, I don't feel like you ever gave me advice. There was no advice. You never talked about boys or sex or anything. I was like, what did my mom give me? I was just trying to think of motherly advice you gave me. I was like, I don't know if she ever did.

Not in a bad way. Maybe you were just trying to let me live my life. No. You kind of jetted out of there before I probably could anyway. Like even in high school, I was just like, God, I don't remember like you ever giving me like advice. Well, you know, live and learn. I can give you advice now. I have a lot of wisdom. That's so funny because I was thinking about that. I was like,

Because I feel like I'd want to give Malibu advice. I feel like I want to give her advice, you know, because I've been through like a lot. So I feel like I want to give her advice. But I guess maybe just – I'll give her my advice. Okay. I can't wait until she starts talking because I feel like she has so much of your mannerism. Sometimes when you spend like the hours with you for her for the podcast, when we come up, I'm like, that's a Mimi thing. She's like, whoa, whoa. And I was like, oh, no. So when she starts talking, I'm so curious to know just her thoughts on you, how the day went.

Because I just – they're so honest. I remember Grandma, when she would watch me, would tell you like I cheated on the cards. I was like, oh, someone was – I was like, oh, my God, Grandma telling on me and stuff like that. Oh, she cheated. She lied. She's tired. I was like, oh, my God, Grandma really calling me out. I know. I don't want to be that kind of grandma either. I know. Like I kept a secret from one of my other grandchildren though. Did you? Oh. Oh, I can't. I'm going to say why. Let's not say the secrets out there.

Yeah, it's interesting. I think having a relationship with your –

aunts grandparents i think it's just like so important it's something we just didn't have right like i tell like you know when i was talking about i'm like you didn't we didn't we didn't really have like a lot of friends we didn't have a lot of like family that was close so we're just not close we're close as like our family but like extended family it's like i've never right see that much or talk to which is like weird because we all live close together but it seemed and it seemed like um a lot of they were a lot older it seemed like older acting you know how

How now you see them, you know what I'm saying? Like they were maybe 50 and they look like they were 80. Yeah. They definitely were. My aunts, they looked, they seemed so old. Like they couldn't relate to me, you know? Yeah. My dad said the same thing. He said like you would never, or was it you talking like you, like the grandparents never talked to you.

Was it you that said that? Yeah. And it was like, yeah, they just didn't talk to the kids. They were in a different world then, you know? That's so interesting. And it's like now both you and my dad, it's like, and his mom too, it's like so active and so like play, like just nonstop playing with Malibu and communicating with her like she's a person. And it's like, yeah, I don't remember that as like a. So that's a good change. Yeah. So. And give advice. Well, you can give advice to Malibu. I will. What's advice you would give her?

First of all, be very respectful and obey your mother and father. Oh. Wow, that's a good one. Very, you know. You just have to instill that right away. Yeah. You know? We were talking about this, though, too. It's like you actually, like, never –

Like, we weren't bad kids, but it's like, you never really punished us. Like, we never got grounded. We were talking about, like, how you never... You know, because it wasn't a thing. Like, I never got grounded. I feel like kids get grounded, though. I remember people, like, I'm grounded. And I'm like... I always thought it was weird. I grounded you once. Not grounded you, but... And I feel bad to this day in Dakota. Remember? We were going to see The Wizard of Oz at the high school. And you were just acting up. You weren't listening to me at all. So I had to call that babysitter. Oh. And I went without you with the others. Yeah.

And I felt so bad because you love musicals. You love plays. And I thought, what did I do? But it's like, I'm going to teach you a lesson. But that hurt me more, I think, than it hurt you. Yeah, I don't remember that at all. It hurt me to this day. Because it was a stupid, stupid high school play. What is it? A town of 200 people? Yeah. Shout out, Dakota. Yeah.

But I'm like, oh, I did that. Well, I mean, I guess you have to discipline. But we didn't get disciplined that much. But I guess we just didn't act out that much, really. Yeah. One time you put dish soap in my mouth. It wasn't even a bar of soap. You think, like, oh, put a bar of soap. But one time you put dish soap in my mouth. Yeah. Well, you were a little feisty child sometimes. You like to...

not talk back but you know was that it I think your side was always better so you always try to talk over me and then I'm like I'm the mom and you and then one time you're like I'm gonna put soap in your mouth I was like okay random I remember that after years of saying no no I had to

I'm sorry. Okay, well, maybe we won't play. Maybe I regret that now, but, you know, I thought, you know. I mean, there's way worse that parents do. I mean, it's better than hitting you or anything, you know. That's true. That is crazy how parents still fight to this day about, like, some people really believe in, like, spanking and hitting and stuff like that, which is like. Well, that girl I followed on TikTok, she was talking about her.

sisters spanking that she goes to spank him all the time like oh the spanking is a lot that is I don't know that's like too much I think but I think you can reason with the child and if not you just sit him in a chair we sit in the corner a couple times I remember I think you put me down take a break you just say you take a break for 10 minutes you don't have to say you're being punished

Because that might trigger them. I don't know. Right. I feel like also, too, like, mental health wasn't a thing. Like, my, you know. You never heard that at all. Like, maybe we didn't know how to regulate emotions. So, like, instead of, like, helping us, like, my dad specifically, too, just, like, yelled, like, oh, my God. He just gets so mad. You know what I mean? And it's, like, rather than, I feel like with Malibu, I can, like, be, like, okay.

What's wrong? What's the problem? Because if you like lash out, there's usually like a reason, right? Like there's usually – Yeah. With a kid, there's usually like a trauma that's there. But it's like I feel like the communication was harder as –

But again, I think it starts as a baby. If your parents are going to yell at you as a baby, like, ah, why did you, you know, in your diaper or whatever, you know, you just kind of got to start out being calm. I hated being yelled at. Yeah. You never yelled. My dad did, but you like never yelled. I'd like refuse to yell like for Malibu. I just like can't like yell at her. I feel like he yelled after we were divorced though. Yeah. Because he had never, you know,

really had you alone yeah and i felt bad for him honestly looking back yeah and you know he was busy trying to make a company and i feel yeah i feel bad then we should stay together because yeah for you know you should stay together for the kids unless you're really constantly fighting and we weren't like yeah we just wanted different things so or if you're being like abused or something it's like bad but right yeah yeah i think he just didn't know i know i always like i didn't ever i didn't really like visiting my dad when i was a kid because it was like

Yeah. He would always like yell at me if I like pooped my pants or something like that or like anything. But I feel now looking back or he always fed us like fast food or something. I'm like, I guess he just probably just didn't know. Like he couldn't cook. He just ate that. You know what I mean? And probably why I still like fast food to this day because we had a summer of just all fast food for every meal. Kind of fun as a kid, but it's like now it's like, okay.

I think I had one dog in Suds, Coney Dog. I went to A&W. We had Coney Dogs there. What's a Coney Dog? A hot dog with chili sauce on it. That sounds good. But we didn't go much. And then Jerry's Tencent Hamburgers back in the day. Because you had a mom that cooked. You were getting those meals. We were so excited to go there. And people all day were like, you should be excited about the home-cooked meals. Yeah.

Because nobody cooks, right? It is true. People do get excited. Like, Moses is such a good cook. So when people come over, like he cooked for his mom, he cooked for my dad. Like people get so excited because it's like no one does home cooked meals anymore. And it's like so good. It's like my favorite thing. It's delicious. It's amazing. We were talking about your lasagna this morning. I was like, what's the last time you had lasagna? I'm like, well, he offered the other day. But I was like, nowadays keeping up with Malibu is hard for me. So it's like. And it takes hours. And Moses treats it like an art piece. So. I know. It's beautiful. Treats it with love. I know.

Which is kind of everything. We talked about Mother's Day coming up. What are you looking forward to as a new mom of a second child? Just having a growing family. Like I love having like a little family. You know what I mean? Because it's like

We kind of talked about it, right? Like it's – I'm so happy you and Callie are close. But like other family, you know, and even Callie, you know, one day she can move away or whatever. You know, my brother, all the stuff like that. It's like my dad is always like busy and stuff. Now it's like it's kind of nice to create like your own little family unit so you kind of have – Each other. Each other, you know. It's like – and you too. I always think like, oh, you know, and I always tell you it's like if you meet someone, if you like, you know, move to France to be with like the president of France or like whatever, like –

You should do it because, you know, it's your life and stuff like that. But it just feels good because I feel like also too, you know, growing up, it's like, you know, that abandonment or not having people or even as an adult, you know, you feel like you're alone. You're alone on holidays. It's just nice to have like a little family unit and feel –

love and I don't know, it just feels nice to have people support you. Like yesterday after we finished the podcast and I went up there and I was filming a video. We were supposed to go to eat so Moses came and checked on me with Malibu and I was like, I was just talking about how grateful I am. I was like, no, you guys should come in and then Malibu's just singing and she's just like, oh, just like,

I don't know. The simple things of life. Unique. You see yourself in each of them. You each see something a part of in her and that's kind of cool. Oh, and she's... And then also just also so much her own person where she's just like so full of like love and light and she's so funny and I'm just like...

Yeah, I see myself. I see him in her. But I also – and I told you, I even saw like Grandma Cant. Sometimes I'm like, I suppose I see Grandma Cant in her. Just the stuff she does, like her little faces and stuff. But she also is just so uniquely her, which is cool. And that's why I'm excited for the next baby because it's just like you don't know what it's going to bring. That's fun. And she brings joy to so many people. Like I love seeing her with you. I love seeing her with my dad. I love seeing her with everybody because she – even out in public, people are just happy to see her.

I just want to like protect her. I just know. That's it. Yeah. You know. It's a tough one. It's hard. People get so jaded in life and you get so, I don't know, traumatized. I just don't want her to ever feel that way. I don't want her to ever feel bad. And I know that's like part of life is you're just going to feel bad. You're going to get your heart broken. Your feelings hurt. And it's just like, I don't know. That makes me sad. I think that was the hardest part when I found out I was having a girl. I was like, oh no. I feel like she's going to go through so much. So I hope because I have experience going through my own mental issues.

and mental health, I can hopefully help her guide through those feelings. Because sometimes when you feel so overwhelmed, like my problem was emotions, and when you're so overwhelmed with emotions, you don't know how to handle it, so you like lash out, you do all these crazy things. Hopefully I can like help her if she... I see you and your girls having deep talks like that, you know? I hope so. Of your life and Moses, you know, can share his ups and downs in his life. Yeah. I think they'll be good listeners. Yeah. Take it to heart. Already she's so smart and she does listen and she's...

So wonderful. So I know you described me at like two. I was like having tantrums. And I'm like, honestly, she's not like that. You said like I would be crazy in the mall. In fact, when we go out, she's very much like aware of people around her. And she's just very, I don't know. She's just Malibu. She's just Malibu. And I can't picture life before her, which is like so weird. Right. You know, just like life before being a mom. It's so weird. And it's a mom forever. I mean, you are a mom forever, which is – do you ever get tired of it?

No. Never? No. It is crazy. It's just who you become. I know people go, I don't want to become a mom. You either love being a mom or you don't. And it's just, yeah, you have your own life. You can have your own life too. But to bring children in, you need to be there for them. They need to learn from you and what your family values are and stuff. So if you're not there, they're just kind of, you know.

free for all listening to tons of other people what to do that's true well I think you excelled as a mom in so many ways and like now like I told you as a as a mom myself I look back I'm like oh my god how did my mom do it like it is crazy uh when you're younger it helps I think of that now that I could never do what I did back then now you have three kids you're a single mom you're a

working. Like, it's just like so much. How do you keep track of them? How do you know? It's like, it's great. It's actually insane. Like how you raise us. But like I said earlier in the interview, I think one of the best things about you is your support. Like the fact that I've always felt support about you. I tell this to most, I tell this to everyone. It's like, I always have my mom's back because you're like the only one that's had my back. You know what I mean? Like through every, like literally everything. And no matter how outlandish I got or how wild I got and stuff like my mom really did always have my back.

through everything. So what is like, I guess, I think you're most qualified to give advice on how to be a supportive parent. What is the best advice you give to parents who just want to support their kids more and how do they do it? I think one thing you need to know is don't judge them. Don't judge them for anything they do because, um, they'll learn from it and, um, they'll come to you if they need help, always be there for them. You know, don't ever be too busy not to talk to them, um,

or especially when they're hurting you know um I just think you have to be there every moment even if you live far apart a telephone call write a letter you know people don't write letters anymore and my mom used to write a lot to me and I have kept them and it means a lot you know

Just knowing you have somebody. Yeah. And that's why you have a family. Knowing that you have people to support you, you know, and have during the good times, bad, and share your experiences. Now you have...

and Elvis and you're going to have so much fun in life. Yeah. Even more so than, you know, you and Moses have had. Oh, yeah. You just add so much, you know? It is crazy when you have a child and you're just like, oh my God, I didn't think this would be like, life could be this exciting again. You know what I mean? Like, I don't think I've ever been as excited in life as I am now, which is like why I'm so happy and so grateful and like with my birthday coming up, I'm like, I actually don't need, I'm not even buying anything for myself. Usually I buy something for myself and I'm like, I don't know. I just feel like I don't need anything because I have literally everything.

And we have so many experiences to enjoy together and that's why I'm excited to enjoy them through Malibu's eyes. I'm excited to enjoy them with you because we missed out on so much stuff. So that's why I love doing everything as like a family unit because it just like feels good to not only get to experience it through Malibu's eyes but also experience it with you. Me being in a happier place. You being in a happier place.

Definitely. It's just amazing and I'm so happy. That's why I was excited to have you on. People ask about you all the time. People miss you on social media. My mom really is just the best. You really are. I don't say that enough, but I feel like... Well, you are the best too. I wish you the happiest of Mother's Day. Thanks. Happy Mother's Day to you, Mom. Thank you for all the support. I definitely would not be here without you. That is for sure. Happy Mother's Day to all the mothers out there. Cherish your mom while you're here. Happy Mother's Day.

And we love you guys. Thanks for watching. And I love you. I love you, Mom. Happy Mother's Day. Happy Mother's Day. Bye.