Trisha CALLS OUT Tati Westbrook & Harry Jowsey SHADES Tana Mongeau
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Welcome back to the annual weekly podcast of Just Trish. Wait, wait, wait. The annual weekly? What do we have? I think you gotta pick just one. The bi-annual weekly? What would it be? You know when they're like, welcome back to the 75th annual Academy Awards. Like, what are we? Are we at the 75th annual Just Trish week? Yeah.

You know what I'm saying? We're like at episode 75 or something. But annual is year. So you can't be yearly and weekly. Welcome back to the weekly 75 Just Trish podcast. I think we're at 78. Are we? I think we're at 78. I think today. Yeah. Oh, when I was doing my little calculator. Okay, maybe I'm a little off on it. I have to look again.

are we at 78 i'm pretty sure that's crazy the weekly 78th just church podcast you know what i'm saying like when they say the hunger games like welcome to the 75th hunger games yeah but the hunger games are every year okay so what are we every week yes we can we can go to one a year one podcast one episode a year i feel like people definitely do that or something does he still have a podcast

he posts only like once every in a blue moon. He just drops one at three million. He's like, that's all I need. Bye. Those people that do like, not say he does it, but like the people who do like the bare minimum, I like, I love them so much. The people who just post once and like, that's all the money they need. And they're like out, they bounce out again. I was like, kind of like not to bring up Drew again, but like Drew, I was like, he hasn't posted in a while. I'm like, did he just come in and be like, I'm going to get, or like,

Remember when Gabby did all those TikToks? She made all those TikToks, kind of the manic ones, and then left for a year. And I was like, I kind of live for people who do that. They just bounce. They get all the money and then bounce. And then it kind of builds up mystery because then when Gabby made her return, it was big news. I know. I mean, we covered it pretty hard. I wish I could be that person to disappear for a year and have a big comeback. I don't know if we're that mysterious, though.

I'm definitely not. I need to post like every day. I'm already stressed about having this baby, which the baby should be here any day. And I'm just like, but I want to post right away. And I probably will post right away. But it's just like, I love posting. I can't imagine disappearing for a year.

That would be so wild, though. Like the hype around where you're at would be like off the charts. But then it's like, I don't know. What do you do for that whole year? I don't know. What do people do that? I don't know. Can't imagine. I guess that could be good, just like a year off. But yeah, it would be weird. But yeah.

We're here. We're still pregnant. We're still here. It's the just pregnant podcast. It's the just pregnant. I know. The closer you get to pregnancy is like so crazy. I was thinking about that even when I was going to the bathroom. I was just like, what if my water breaks now? You just like never know. And then what happens? You just stop or you have time after your water breaks to get to the hotel. It's like, I guess we could, or to the hotel, to the hospital. My brain is literally for a ride. I don't know why. And so I was thinking like if my water did break now, I guess we could make it through the hot topics and then go after. Because I think you have 12 to 24 hours, I think, to make it there.

I would do it. I would push through. Because I didn't know. I was like, gosh, I don't know. And then I didn't even know if I was glamming today. And then it was just a whole thing. So don't come for me for my look. I didn't have a look planned. But I feel like this kind of encouraged because I had no look planned. I already had the wig.

I had the sweater and the dress because it's Fashion Nova. And I was just like, I guess it's giving Kim K, but then Kim K is canceled this week. She's like losing followers. So please don't cancel me just because I'm dressed like her. I know I look like her, but you don't need to unsubscribe from this because I'm not. I'm just Trish. But-

I was like, what an awful day, awful week to pick Kim Kardashian to cosplay. I'm so sorry. It does not reflect my opinions or opinions of this show. T, yeah. T. Oh, we didn't even get to the sponsors. We have no sponsors, but we do have our Patreon. And Patreon is, can I say, popping. Me and Oscar went hardcore last week on Patreon. Yes, it was so fun. We did like four videos, two separate days. We were really dedicated. Yeah. We like drove to North Hollywood. We got free banging. We got to talk about that. But we did.

But before we do, patreon.com slash justtrish. Babe, you already know, show that headshot of the month. The headshot of the month is actually a body shot of the month. I wanted to give you pregnancy realness, okay? This might be my last pregnancy, so I really wanted to give body, belly, all of it. So we're giving pregnancy realness. And then the sticker of the month is actually a new Trishmoji. I'm going to have to give it to Jimmy to edit in because we don't have it yet. But it's a pregnancy Trishmoji sticker.

So if you want to get the last of the pregnant Trish lore, I guess, this is it. Patreon.com slash JustTrish for the headshot and the producer tier. You also get handwritten cards and name in the credits if you're a producer. But what's really cool, I'm going to give it to the bottoms this week because we really have some great video footage. One being the

The Dramageddon reaction. My favorite video that we've done ever, I think. I had so much fun. I honestly, we spent an hour just on the first video because the first video is like 45 minutes. But we're kind of doing it in sagas because I'm like, I just want to like really savor all of it. Yes, I know. The original plan was to watch all of the Dramageddon videos in one sitting. I'm like, they're kind of long, but we'll just skip through it. But that first by sister one really had us seated. Wild.

Spoiler alert. Tati's the villain of all this. I'm shocked. I wish Moses was watching it with us because I was like... I was sad I wasn't there. You have to see the rest. I mean, I think this is your new Netflix show. Yes. We

We wanted to rent out a movie theater. We literally, like, we should do an AMC rent, like, watch the whole thing. Because people who haven't seen it, or, like, if you saw clips of it, like, I remember clips of it and stuff like that. But when you, like, actually watch the whole video, like, this is so not a hot topic. But I told Oscar, like, if this was 2019, we'd be crushing the hot topics on this because...

The manipulation, the gaslighting, and also just the overall weirdness of Tati being like friends with a 17-year-old. 19 at the time, I think, but meeting him at 17 and just having this like weird, like, I'm disappointed. I thought we were close. I'm like, he's 19. Like, this is crazy. You met him at 17. I thought he would grow up. I'm like, he's 19. You met him at 17. Like, what? Like, it was action.

actually wild and then James we watched the first James apology like the eight minute one yeah when he's like I'm so sorry to Tati and James and she he needs to apologize to my husband because he put in money for this vitamins I'm like this is wild and the fact that James did it but then we saw the first two seconds of the James clap back it auto played from sad James to like oh we could go to stars yeah he's like and full glam full beat he's like ah

- Actually, here are the receipts. And this is what I-- - No more lies. - Oh, no more lies. - That was the title. - I'm so excited for part two. And look, if James wasn't problematic in the ways that we just can't forgive over here at Just Trish, I would seriously be tweeting a storm right now, being like, James is the victim.

is the victim. I mean, we haven't seen all the parts. Yes. But definitely victimized by Tati in this for sure. It is crazy. Like I told you, I was like full on the Tati train back then. And then I had to get a little bit of a refresher because I was like, what was I going through in 2019 where I was like so team Tati? And then I forgot how annoying James Charles was in 2019. Right. So,

everyone was kind of just like waiting for him to get like knocked down a peg because he was such a little menace. Yeah. Like he was just so cocky and like arrogant and running his mouth where it didn't need to be ran. Like he was like chiming in on things acting as if he was like the HBIC of the beauty community at just like 19. No, totally get that.

So I think that's why all of a sudden Tati came out with this and it was like, hell yes, Tati, let's go. You know? And then all the things that were being said about him. Granted, it did not age well. Like everything you said like rang true because I'm like, first of all, it's over hair gummies. Second of all, he was a teenager. Like none of this really makes sense. But at the time I was like, let's take James down a little bit. Like let's humble him. It totally is that. And you said – because I didn't even know how like Shane and Jeffrey got played. You were kind of giving me spoilers because I'm like, how does that even tie into this?

Because it was so weird. But it did seem like a deliberate takedown of James. Yes. But the fact that Tati was 38 at the time of filming that video. 38. That's two years or 37. What did we find out? I think 38. Okay, 38. Two years older than I am now. Just married. Mortgage. All that stuff like that. And she's like upset that James wouldn't put her in a video. All that stuff kind of come out. She's like, but he never asked me to be on his channel. But meanwhile, being like, I gave him so much clout and audience for my channel. I was like...

It was so crazy and wild that she didn't benefit from James. We helped him. We negotiated managers, me and my husband. I'm like, you guys sound like a little bit grooming, a little bit of grooming. You know what I mean? If you're doing all this but expecting something in return, which she was. You have to watch the whole video because we don't need to break down. But I was shook because you guys know 2019 for me. We were looking at the dates and stuff like that because I was in three mental hospitals at the time. It was February, June, and end of the year. So –

I think the last one came out in June when I was one. So I was like on heavy drugs, heavy medication, heavy like psycho. Like I just was not well. So I don't remember any of this. But I was like, gosh, at the time, I wish I could have inserted myself. But then we found the clips of me talking about it on Eat Your Hollywood Story. And I'm like, I would love to know what I have to say about this because I remember none of it and know none of it. But – and look, maybe Tati's better. I think we've heard she's like –

I think she like reaped her maybe karmatic energy she put out from it, right? Because she got, her company got sued. She had to sell her house. Not to say like she's deserving of it. I'm saying like maybe she's learned a lot. You know what I mean? Sometimes when you're humbled back, you're kind of like, okay, I learned a lot. You know what I mean? I've been humbled back too in my career. You talk, talk, talk, talk, talk. And then you get humbled and it's never fun and it's never anything you should wish upon someone. But it sounds like maybe she got humbled a little bit and maybe she's better now. I think for all the players involved in Dramageddon too, I think all of them are humbled in different ways when you think about it.

about it like no one really won James Charles kind of won for a bit because he was like riding high into like 2020 before like all the underage stuff came out you know and that was the I think the karmatic yeah well but at the end of the day like all the players yeah it was Shane Jeffrey Tati James everyone kind of got there and you need to and I'm one too I'm one too before anyone's like oh trash like I always like chime in on things like Matt Rife I was chiming in on his problematic behavior and like you're canceled too

Not saying I'm above it. I've been humbled so many times, probably more recently than them, like 2021, like so many times. So sometimes you just need it, right? And again, it's not something you should wish on me or I should wish on them. I just think that's just how the law of the universe works. But

So maybe she's changed right now. We looked her up. She's still making videos, which, you know, Slay. Yeah. She looks good. She looks amazing. Yeah. I literally had to go back and look at my emails because I was like, when did I order Halo Beauty? And literally...

I remember I ordered it after Buy Sister. And then there was a big holdup because she had so many orders. So it took like a week to ship. I think I received it May 19, 2019. So it was nine days after Buy Sister. Oh my God, what a whirlwind. I can't believe it's been five years. Well, it was good timing that it was like a five.

Yeah.

It was wild. I felt, I've never, I felt so bad for James. I was like, oh my God. And the fact that he like apologized and that this woman was being like, you owe me and my husband an apology and kind of just airing out all his dirty laundry. Like I was just like,

Like it's just like a lot. But especially when he was like 19 at the time too, it's like you kind of feel bad. And like my guess, and this is all just me projecting here, is maybe like James has had a lot of these traumatic instances in his life and maybe is the way he was or is because of it. Again, coming from someone who has a lot of trauma and broken, you know, whatever, whatever

Because when those people – we were talking about this. And we'll go past it because it's on Patreon and it's not that big of a thing. But it is one of those things where I always say like it doesn't even have to be a sexual relationship. When you're like that much older than someone who's like literally a teenager, like there is that power dynamic. He was a fan. He looked up. Also just being older, he thinks, oh, I should respect them. And they took me in and she kept saying that he called her mom and stuff like that. I'm like this is weird. This is like crossing. And it's just really bizarre, the whole thing. And I didn't know anything about Tati. I didn't know anybody. I was just like –

Damn, James might be the victim in this one. I feel bad for him. I wanted to reach out, but you know.

There's some hard no's for me, but it probably made him feel some type of way. So I'm so excited for part two. Part one is up now. And I went through, again, the timeline and there's so many other videos that I think there might have to be part two, three, four, five because there's a lot. I love it. It's like No More Lies and then Tati has Why I Did It. And then there's a whole year gap. Isn't that OJ Simpson? Didn't he write that book by it? I think that's the name of his book. I think his is If I Did It, right? Oh, If I Did It. Yeah.

similar he's a little too close yeah and then Jeffrey had a video after after No More Lies so that's like wave two and then a whole year passes and then that's when Tati comes back with like more Shane Jeffrey details oh my god and then there's that's when Shane responds and then Jeffrey has another response it gets crazy do you have all of these videos I saw

Dustin Daly was like oh I finally found the video there was one that she like was never found online and he finally found it or something I don't know which one maybe it was the why I did it yeah because that one was shorter and she was like crying and stuff so if any of them it was that one I saw like a recap of it I could maybe have to DM Dustin and be like Dustin send us that I think he's part of he's part of hopping up

Hopping on board at the Jeff Trish. Yeah. So we need to get the details. I would love to interview everybody on this. It's like so fascinating. I can't even imagine the tie in with like James and Jeff or Jeffrey and Shane. Like I can't even imagine. I know we're – again, we'll get past it. But what you're wondering like the timeline because I remember like you said Shane – like you reached out to Shane. It was like right after you got out of the mental hospital. Yeah. So I think it's because –

In May 2019, when it happened, I remembered in the...

The original trailer for the Jeffrey Shane series, he posted this clip of him, Rylan, and Jeffrey in one room watching by sister. And it was supposed to be like, he teased that the series, the Jeffrey series was going to like go really in depth of the by sister drama. But then in the actual series that didn't happen. And then it was edited. It was like them doing different scenes of them watching by sister where they weren't all in one room together. I think to kind of make it look like they weren't,

Right. In the loop with Tati or whatever. Interesting.

Didn't he say too, like, I was going to do a whole thing and then he like, was like, actually, I don't want to bring up the drama. I don't want to talk about this drama anymore. It was all supposed to be in that Jeffrey, whatever, that one before the conspiracy palette, whatever. There was like 20 Jeffrey documentaries. The Beautiful Life, The Secret Life, The Sad Life. I was like, oh my gosh, okay. I mean, milk it for sure, but. Yeah. So that must have been it because they filmed that whole thing, their whole reaction of my sister for the documentary. So that must have been why he was like, I can't talk to you even though you just got out of the mental hospital. I have to film. Yeah, literally. Because it was,

Because it was May 10th for sure. May 10th, 100% of the day I went over. So maybe that's when the original Tati video was released. So that must have been when he was watching. And they filmed it for the documentary. That's probably what it was. Because I do remember his guy was over there. I forgot his name. The one that dated Gabby. I forgot his name. Andrew? Andrew, yeah. He was like over there. And so they were watching and I had like no idea what was going on. I was like so out of my mind. I was like that was actually – that was not the mental hospital. That was two days after I got out of the actual hospital for like a meth overdose. Oh, God.

a lot of it but I had gone to therapy that morning who was like you need to reach out to your friends and I was like okay so that's what I did and then I was like and then that all happened and I was like hey maybe the wrong friends to reach out to but it's wild go check it out on Patreon I want to do the whole deep dive here because we really spent I was just shook every minute you got so into it I was so into it and you were just like you got a rush oh I did I was

That day was good. I like our Patreon days. We usually get lunch for the mukbang and then we film a reaction video. And that one was just so much fun. It was so good. It's where it's at over there. All the comments, everyone's living for it. Like, I feel amazing. Yeah, that was good. The time was good. We also went to Bang and Buns finally. Oh, yeah.

I was craving banging buns all weekend after we had it. Oh my God, me too. I literally was thinking like this week, I'm like, when can we go? Even, you know, I told you Moses isn't like a food brought back, but he's like, I would have eaten it. I was like, oh man, I should have just brought a plate back because I probably would have eaten it too. I don't like leftovers, but I probably would have had leftovers of that. I ate my leftovers. Did you eat it? Yeah. And I saved my little pudding. Jimmy, we have to insert the clip of Trish praying over the banana pudding because it was like... Lord, thank you for this life.

the joys that your world brings that clip killed me and then but then when i tasted it i was like i see i see why you had to pray about it it was so good i savored it ah that is the best place the best chicken the best rice the best mac and cheese the best fries it's so worth it took me an hour to get there that day and took us an hour to get back here and it's just so worth it and shout out banging months they gave us free food honestly i was so excited i was like wow like a kid in a candy store i was like really

Like they gave us free drinks. Like I felt like a VIP. If I want to be like a VIP anywhere, it's banging butts. And I feel good about helping it because I thought it was like a chain, but I guess it's like a small business. I think they only have three or two locations opening a third maybe. Two locations opening a third. They're young. We found out they were like teenagers when they started their food truck. They're like 25 now. Yeah. We did a deep dive. We were on LinkedIn. They're all so cute. So I was like, hold on. I'm sorry.

I was like, maybe. Okay. Because also you literally gave me no heads up. I like walked in there expecting, I don't know, old folk, like some senior citizens. And I was like, these guys are actually so hot. And they're like so straight. And they're like the type of straight guy, like hot straight guy I would probably hate. But then they're nice and also make great food. So I was like, hey. They make great food. They're nice.

and they sent me flowers on my birthday, which, I mean, it's all guys that own it, so I have to assume they sent it. I said thank you for the flowers to the guy. I don't know. I'm like, maybe he didn't send it, but I'm assuming. And they said, like, happy birthday and stuff. That's true. They both said happy birthday, so it was very nice. It was very unexpected. We came home from dinner, and I got my last set of bouquets for the day. I'm like, who's that from? And I saw the card. I was like, banging buttons. I'm like, the ones I went

I went there one time, but I loved it. I was like, thank you. I think it's that one back there. Is it behind Oscar? Oh, the one to the, off his shoulder. Yes. There's a Fashion Nova and then there's a Bangin' Buns.

I love all the companies sending me stuff. Thank you. There was a time when like companies didn't even want to know me and now it's like, here's flowers. They were rejecting being associated with you. You couldn't even say that you like the product without them being no association. Now people, thank you. And thank you guys, honestly. It is the, we're in a good, good year. It's year of the dragon. Everyone's excited and I love you guys so much. And again, I feel like again, when you can reap your karmatic bad behavior, like you can move forward, that's a little point of karma, right? You reap what you sow and you learn from it, hopefully. So yeah,

I feel like I've served my bad karma years. Is there a Taylor Swift song called Bad Karma? Just Karma. Oh. Oh. There's the JoJo song, Karma's a bitch. Oh. No relation to the two. No relation. Interesting because like Taylor Swift's song is like karma is the guy on the Chiefs. Yeah. So that's like her good karma? Yeah. Karma is my boyfriend. So it's like – Wait, what? I don't get it. Karma is my boyfriend. It's a song about like –

Like Scooter Braun and Kanye West and Kim. Like the people who reap bad karma, but she had the good karma because she tried to keep it clean. Love that. Yeah. Oh my God. I want to make a song like that. Karma is just Trish, my podcast, Oscar and Moses.

I actually love Trish's version. I like that. That's so good. We're doing new karma. I like that it's good karma. Karma just Trish. Yeah. Oh, that's the JoJo version. Okay, well. Which could also be a sleigh, I suppose. Oh, they could be a sleigh.

Shout out Joey for getting Jojo on his little, what's his show that he does? What's that called? I don't know if it has a name. Spill or Spew or something. Oh, wait. I didn't know Jojo was on that one. You didn't see it? No. It was this weekend and he asked her, did you steal karma? And then he asked her, what's the baddest thing you've done? And she goes, oh my God. Did you see this clip? No.

Where she's like, I shouldn't even be admitting. Wait, you didn't see? I did not see this at all. It was all over my, the sound was all over my For You page and I thought it was from like SNL or something, but it was really JoJo and Joey was asking the questions. He did the same kind of setup he did with Daniel. Oh, the one that got Daniel in the Connor Frantz. Yeah, the Connor Frantz. So he did like another one. He's setting all the girls up. That is what? I know. For someone who's like to be messy, he's gonna just like sort of expose the messy. He did JoJo and

She's like, yeah. He's like, what's the bad thing? She's like, oh, my God. I shouldn't even be admitting this. She says, well, one time, she's like, I was eating JoJo ice cream. And I was like, I shouldn't even say this. She's like, I was eating JoJo ice cream on TikTok. And I was like, oh, my God. This is crazy. I'm eating JoJo ice cream. And I'm JoJo Siwa. She's like, that was the first time I was high on camera. She's like, I had an edible before. I was like, oh, OK. She was so scared to say it, too. And then Joey's so dramatic. He's like, no. No.

he being funny or is he being i mean live i mean good for him 7-eleven but so bad

so funny she's a bad girl she did some bad things she did some bad things she was high on camera one time in a state that's what weed is legal here so it's not really even that bad but um we live for it we love you know it's good i love a bad girl who's not that bad that's what i like to be i don't want to be too bad you know what i mean but i wish you could have been on the scene of that video like behind the scenes like you know yes shout out joey forgetting that all the messy tea from these people um and i love that she went on there that's kind of everything so how did

Oh, the karma. Yeah. Well, I like that there's good karma too. And that is true. And I feel like I'm reaping the good karma because I feel like I've done some good things too. So I feel like now I'm in my good karma era. Yeah. Getting babies and babies and... You went through the lows and yeah. Then you started... Taught me a lot. Yeah. I changed for two. I mean, it definitely does. Like when you like go through some shit, it's like maybe I need to like maybe change a little bit what I'm putting out into the universe. And that's why...

James Charles didn't change not to bring him back to the Armageddon but God it's like that's the perfect example because like that was the warning shot to you know not use your your fame and your clout to like DM guys and you know. And Tati did warn him she said in the video. That's the tea she did clock that tea you know. She clocked the tea she was like this might get you in trouble one day and James said that in his video he's like she's right she sat me down and said this might get me in trouble I was like

So from all of this, my question is like, where are his parents? He seems to be looking around for parents in the world. Well, that's what's wild. So Tanya kind of calls out his parents in the video too. And I was like, oh my God, she calls him, what's his name? Christy. Was that her name? She calls her out by name. She goes, they came to my house. She had dinner. Your boys need you. Yeah. She's like, she goes, when Chris, is that her name? I don't know. When James Charles' mom was here, we'll say Christy, whatever. She's like, she went to me, she goes, look after my boys. And I had to tell her, I'm giving them back to you. I can't do it anymore. No.

I was like, what? That's like a four-star game. Yeah. She's like, you have to watch over them. And she goes, that's what I was. And then she goes, you know what? You need to come back to LA because I can't do this anymore. I'm giving the boys back to you. I was like, well, this is some weird. There's more than one? There's two. Yeah, there must have been two. His brother? Yeah.

Ian Jeffrey, I want to say. Ian Jeffrey. Okay. Was he like an influencer or he worked with James? He was becoming an influencer. He dated Lauren Gray. That's how – yeah. Oh, I didn't know. And I think he became a model, I want to say. Oh, what? And he like –

But then during John Leggett, and you have to get to this part, but then Jeffrey started going after Ian. And then Ian like kind of left social media, I think. Yeah. And moved and like separated himself from James even. Like in that Cosmo, the comeback like Cosmopolitan piece, James said that his brother stopped talking to him or something. Yeah. But like.

that has to be deeper than just what Jeffrey says. That's what everyone was saying. Everyone was saying if your own brother's not talking to you then some things must be true. Because my sister left the internet basically, you know, whatever. But we still talk, like we're still close. It's not, you know, just because the internet was like mean to her doesn't mean like she's like I'm not talking to you. So that's what I'm saying. It must be a little bit deeper between them. Yeah. Because you can still talk to your sibling if you leave the internet. Um,

That's a little weird. Yeah, that's what the other thing where, you know, he hasn't really like learned, right? Because he was kind of, you know, again, you like think of someone's age and you think, okay, whatever, and they could grow, whatever. But then when that article came out and he's like, I want to be uncanceled. It's like, okay, that's not really how it works. You didn't learn anything. Like, you know what I mean? Like it's kind of – it walks it back. So that's why every interview I really make sure to say like I get it. People don't like me. I get it. For the rest of my life I'll have this. Like, you know, you just got to like accept it because to say –

actually I didn't deserve it. It's like, okay. And then you didn't like really learn anything, you know, even if it is subtle, if it is little or big or whatever, like, you know,

you're canceled you're canceled for a reason if you learn from it and if you don't think you deserve to be canceled then you don't you don't really learn your lesson yeah i think it's just that's a sign that you didn't take in the criticism and like i get it the criticism can be really loud and like i mean you know better than anyone like yeah it can be like so just like disheartening and it's hard to figure out which criticism is valid when you get that much and that much angry criticism but there is valid criticism in there at the end of the day i think sort it out i think

almost all criticism is pretty valid because even if it's something that you didn't mean right like back to my like transgender video where it's like obviously that's not what I meant but then you gotta like look at yourself okay what did I say why was I what did I put out how did I put it out that like made people so angry like you kind of have to like just evaluate then like why people got so angry about it even if that's not what you meant and like try to figure that out because that's just part of being a public figure because this is kind of the week of cancellations um

Crazy. I don't know. We don't like get totally into it, but there was one. We talk about her a lot. Hayley Bailey. There's just a lot of people upset. I get it about the Met. I know again, poor timing. I don't know why I'm dressed like the Met Gala today. Literally everyone hates it. But yeah, she was saying, you know, how basically she's just a normal person.

she didn't get invited. She's not elite cause she didn't get invited. And basically saying like, she didn't pay for her dress. She's like, I didn't even pay for my dress. Like he just made it for free. But then the designer said he spent six days, 20 hours working on this dress. And then they're like, she didn't even say his name in the little clip. So they're like, okay, so you're not like paying people for, uh,

it's just kind of wild the whole influencer cancel culture. I feel bad on some hand, but it's like on the other hand, you know, they do the apology video and don't take down the original content. And it's like, are they sorry? It's just like such a weird world. And look, I know I'm not above cancellation, so I don't even like talking about it. It's almost like, oh, I don't want to talk about it because it could be you next or whatever. But

It is kind of interesting how the internet, especially TikTok now, they really like grab onto something. They're canceling Bumble. Like, you know, you just like grab onto something and everyone gets canceled. How did I miss all Bumble? You didn't see the Bumble? No. Last week I was so out of it because I was just working so much. Oh, yeah. What happened? What did Bumble do? Bumble is promoting...

Women, they're like, what is that? The billboard says... Like, celibacy is not the way to go. Yeah. They're like, celibacy is not the answer. Let's be honest. You're not going to be celibate. Is that why Julia Fox said, like, she's celibate? Oh, I don't know. Did she recently say it? Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. I think...

I read it today, this morning when I was looking. She, oh yeah, I think she must have commented on that Bumble thing then and said that she's been celibate for like two years. Yeah, basically they're just telling women like you're not going to be celibate, get on the app. And like all the billboards in LA are like them like happy, smiling. There's another one where like there's a guy and a girl in bed and the girl's like mouth is like literally being covered by like the guy or something. So it's like such so weird, especially because Bumble was always like

well, Bumble's trash, first of all. Like, no one good is on Bumble. But second of all, they always promoted it like a pro-female. Like, females are in control. Because it used to be like females had to talk to you first. I don't know if that's still like that. But everyone was mad at that. I mean, people get canceled for literally everything. And sometimes warranted, sometimes not warranted. But I do – back to what I was going to say, the valid criticism –

Because I think there's always like something to like learn a little bit. And with James then being like, I don't want to be canceled. It's like, okay, but you were and you were, it was valid and you said a lot of it was true. So just own up to it. Just take it. Take the C as they call it or take the L.

What one is it? Take the L. I guess that is a good segue into not being anti-cancellation, though, because he's like, you can't cancel me, basically. Right. And I tweeted about this. I was like, don't forget, you're still canceled. I'm like, OK, I'm not still canceled. But he is right. What did he say? Yeah. I don't know if I agree with that sentiment, though, what everyone was saying to you, like, oh, you're still canceled. I think there's a difference because...

Matt Rife is basically saying that, like, cancellation isn't, like, a real punishment and that he... Like, you can go ahead and try to cancel him, but he'll never have to own up to the aftermath, basically. Like, he's basically saying he's, like, above it and how, like,

like the criticism and like the cancel culture won't actually work because here it is at the Hollywood Bowl with this like Netflix special you know but it's like you're at yeah you're at the Hollywood Bowl with the tickets that people had to basically give away for free so you're not above like criticism or cancel culture but you did get two new Netflix specials even after all that like even the ticket sales and yeah well you know what's funny this um I have

Girl from Hacks, like the star of it, her name's... I forgot her last name. Hannah. She's also like a comedian. And she was kind of saying... Someone asked her like, what do you think about like the state of comedy right now? Because the show is all about like a stand-up comic. And she's like, you know what? Like you can say like you're transphobic, like you're homophobic, like you're anti...

misogynist anti-women like jokes and guess what you're still gonna play out to like a whole theater so to sit there and try to say that you have to be careful about what you say when you're like also playing to a sold-out show it's like it's bs so i don't want to hear it basically you know yeah and that's very like matt rive coded because he's like you can't have it both ways you're complaining that like you're too attractive and no one wants to hear your jokes but then you go out on a stage of people who paid like a dollar to come see you because

they couldn't resell the tickets for anything. Like literally like Wendy's nuggets are more expensive than your tickets. Shout out Wendy's nuggets. I want that bucket. If it's real, I don't know. But, um,

Um, okay. So, but, but right. I get what you're saying there, but then, but it's like, okay, his specials and stuff. Are you still getting money? He's still getting money from Netflix. Yeah. He's still getting money, but it's also like you imagine the success he could have had if he didn't like choose to be controversial and problematic, you know? Like, yeah, I think there would be so much more opportunity because like looking at his, like the price of his tickets on his different tours, they're all pretty cheap. Like this one, um,

That he did for Netflix at the Hollywood Bowl. Like the tickets would be selling for like $5. The only place that was actually expensive was like Canada where it was like over 100. But everywhere else it was like 20 and down. Canadians, your taste. What is happening up there? Yeah. But and then again in the special he like Variety I guess like had a reporter in.

for her sit in on a special and he was like said transphobic jokes there again oh yeah jokes about dv again no it was that's what i was discussing about it because that was my retweet is like i'm like he's kind of right in the sense like he's still getting deals from netflix which is like crazy because it's like if you yeah like his cancellation was pretty bad but yeah the fact that he went up and like doubled down on those jokes about domestic violence like that's pretty and the transphobic ones i'm like you're just kind of a piece of shit then because it's like

I just feel like those jokes just like bring hatred, right? You're just like a straight white guy and you're just like inciting hate. And like his audience maybe is, I don't know. I don't know what his audience is anymore. But if it's like those kind of people he's attracting now, it's like you're just spreading more hate. So you're getting more of those ignorant people. I don't know. I just think that that's a person. I don't know. Cause it's like no longer jokes. It's kind of like, you're just being hateful and it's like not funny. And I just was like, and it just, the reason I agreed with him is like, cause cancellation, right? Like

is real. You do see people that get like 20,000 views, right? And like that is a form of cancellation when people stop watching you and you stop getting brand deals. And I've definitely been there. So it's real to a certain degree. I think he just hasn't experienced it fully. Yeah. I think he will. Again, not wishing it on him. I think something will catch up. You see this kind of flash in the pan. Not that he's like a flash in the pan, but you kind of see people get really big. It's kind of like

Kind of like Dane Cook. I mean, he makes a lot of money. So again, it's like, what do you consider cancellation? Like going broke? Like, is he going to go broke? Probably not. But like Dane Cook definitely was canceled in my opinion, right? Because he doesn't get hired by movies. He's not touring. His shows at the Laugh Factory are like unannounced and like free and stuff. So it's like-

I don't know. I don't know. I don't know how it works. I guess it depends on your thing. But I think that guy from Seinfeld was definitely canceled, that Kramer, because he was kind of like popular and then he had his racist tirade. So I think there's forms of it and people can forgive you. You know, it's also like, yeah, you can come back from it. Like Kelly Osbourne, right? She had her cancellations. But she kind of comes back from it because people kind of see her as...

What is the word? Like ignorant, maybe, but semi well intentioned. The thing with Matt Reif is that his intentions are just like, yeah, yeah. He's just, that's what I'm saying. He's just like a shitty person. Like you're kind of just hateful. It's not like, oh, I didn't mean that. Or it was a, this was a one joke. I want to say it again. It's like, kind of like, especially like towards women, um,

towards trans people who are like going through like so much right now it's just like the lowest hanging fruit like if you want to be about it like be about it then like make jokes about being a guy who bullies like six-year-old kids on tiktok or refutes plastic surgery even though we see the before and after if you want to be about it then be about it yeah but this like the lowest hanging fruit that you're trying to like make jokes about to like the alpha male audience when you are nothing of the sort like it's just so dumb to me and like

People will see through it eventually. Like you said, you can still – he'll never be poor. He'll always be successful to some degree, but I think –

you have to know that you're not going to be as successful as you could have been um if you continue doing the thing that made gays girls and straight guys like you you know totally right and we kind of talked about that over the weekend like briefly too it's like people get canceled and they're like oh my gosh like i can't afford i couldn't afford my house or i had to get back to work or kind of afford like repairs in the kitchen but i can afford to go fly to paris to go see the

Okay, so are you really, you're not broke, but yeah, you lost a big source of income and maybe your income decreased from 100,000 to $20,000 or whatever, but it's still like, yeah, truly, I think people who love to be in entertainment get canceled when no one cares anymore. And it doesn't matter if they kept their money or whatever. It's more just like the attention's not there. And I think with Matt, most comedians are self-deprecating, right? They make fun of their own race, their own religion. Their own sex lives or whatever, yeah. Yeah.

being gay, whatever, but they're gay themselves. Like he's just like goes after like the opposite of him. Like he doesn't go after like the people that are like him or why he was canceled. For me, I always like to self-deprecate of like being like, I was, I'm canceled on this, whatever. But he like goes after like, like you said, the people that are already getting marginalized and like,

hate and like actually being like killed for just existing and stuff. So it's kind of wild. And then meanwhile, blocks fans of like Tana and Brooke who like comment on his Instagram. Like that's how you know, it's like you can literally, anytime someone says anything about you, you just like either attack them or block them and delete the comment. So like, that's how you know you're not actually about it. That's why it makes no sense to me. Like, like,

why even... He's cowardly. Yeah, because the audience that you're trying to attract, like, it's all fake. Like, you're not actually like that. You know what I mean? I know. Like, if you were, like, a baddie who, like, de-gaffs and doesn't care and was above it, then you would leave the comments up and you would, like, you know, actually not care. But instead, you have... You're probably paying someone to, like, block and delete these people. Oh, for sure. So...

and not going on podcasts anymore and stuff like that he's just like so scared of getting i mean i think brick and tan talked about that like he was so scared of being canceled even going on their podcast and stuff so now he just like keeps everything whatever on the stage but it's like but yeah being like a hateful person is you're just attracting more of that and if that's your audience just like people like laughing at people that aren't you is like weird and you're not like dave chappelle and if he was truly a bad boy he would go on joey's podcast yeah he would go on that

I mean – Next week on Joey's – Oh, my God. Oh, God. That'd actually be everything. Joey getting all the tea. I love that. Shout out, Joey. Straight Man News is crazy this week. I mean, literally so many – we have so much to talk about because it's like the George Janko, Logan Paul. We have Dave Portnoy and Call Her Daddy. Like straight guys are really just –

- Doing the most. - A lot. They're just doing the most of them. And I kind of live for straight guy drama, actually. Like the Georgian impulsive drama. Have you seen that back and forth? - I read about it after you gave me a little tip. I was like, okay, let me look into it. - I mean, they were going, I love when people respond over the weekend, 'cause we filmed this on Monday. And we usually get it like,

after we're done or Tuesday morning but they were going even yesterday I don't know if you even saw Jujutsu Jordan's responses to Logan no yeah that was yesterday he's like it's Mother's Day I'm gonna have a great day I'm having a great day but and then he like claps back but I don't know if we had to get all that any more Matt Rife commentary though I hate him probably always will hate him and

And he is an enemy of mine. But also, I don't really think about him that much, only when it comes to filming this. And then other than that, he doesn't take up any space in my brain because I really just don't care about him. He's nothing to me. You were giving a little bit of baby reindeer there when she was on Piers Morgan. Never seen the show. Don't know. He tried to have sex with me, but he's also homosexual. That was a lot. Never seen the show, but she's Scottish and 40 years old. And I was like,

I literally leave this though and like I don't think about them but when I actually have to sit here and think about how much I hate them I'm like damn I really like dislike you it gets you like riled up no I feel the same way that's why I kind of like this is like for the moment I get so into it and then literally forget the next day I was like what did we talk about we always talk about it when we see clips I was like oh my god did I say that oh yeah we said that it's such a funny because we are in a small room people don't know how small this is when people come they're like that's so much smaller but it's like a small room with like really bright lights so sometimes I feel like I'm hallucinating a little bit when I do this show sometimes I'm like

What are we even talking about? What is it? That's why I lose my train of thoughts. I don't know if it's the wig or pregnancy or lights. I don't know what it is. Maybe a mix of all of it. I'm just like, wait, what is happening? So again, this is for entertainment purposes only. This show don't cancel us. I guess there's two good segues. There's the straight man. There's so many. Or Miranda Cosgrove also had her own baby reindeer episode.

I guess. She was the baby reindeer or she had a baby reindeer? She had a baby reindeer. She had a baby reindeer. She kind of had a baby reindeer moment. Oh, in real life? Yeah. Okay. She has been – she's talked about this before. I think on Whitney's podcast, the one where she's like, I actually do curse a little. Oh, yeah. Did you see someone at the Met Gala was like, what's your new favorite curse word? And she goes, I don't have one. Did you see that? No. She's like – they're like, what's your new favorite curse word? She goes, probably the same thing.

She kind of gives nothing in interviews, but I kind of live for that. She's like, she has her iCarly bag and she doesn't really need to perform. No, she doesn't care. She's like, I don't care. I love this. So where was this? Oh, this was on the podcast. But this was a while ago, the Whitney behind it. Well, she did a new interview with Bustle Magazine, I guess, or like Easing. I don't know if it was in print, but she talked about how like she watched Baby Reindeer and how it like reminded her of her own like soccer story. And

And she hasn't really talked about it too much. I think maybe Whitney and maybe that's about it. But she had like a scary stalker incident where like her stalker actually showed up to her house when she wasn't there. Shot someone who thought who he thought was Miranda. And

lit himself on fire and unalived himself in her backyard. Oh my god, why? Yeah, just because he was obsessed with her. Who did he pee-peel? A girl who was driving by who he thought was her. And then...

The way she talks about it is very odd. I think she just... It's, like, traumatic, obviously. So maybe she doesn't want to, like, you know, go full trauma mode. She's, like, smiling. Because sometimes people smile through it. Yeah. Because even on the Whitney one, like, she talked about, it's like, yeah, there was, like, stuff that he was found with. It was, like, ropes and ammunition and stuff. But, like, she's kind of, like, laughing about it. Yeah, I mean...

What else can you do, I guess? And in this one, she also like, yeah, like I saw the girl that he actually shot and she came out to me and she's like, I don't know if I should actually tell you this, but I'm the girl that your stalker shot instead of you. And it was like a whole. Well, at least you survived. Yeah. And then she said that the girl like went to do the police report. And then instead of talking about the guy, the stalker was talking about how she just got like dumped or something.

It was all... It was kind of a weird retelling of the story. Who was retelling... Miranda was retelling this. Yeah, Miranda was doing... Saying all this in an interview. How, like, the victim was, like... Went to, like, report getting shot. And was, like... And the cops were, like, so tell us about the guy who did this. And she was, like, well, like, I just got dumped, actually. And then I was driving home because I just got dumped. And I was, like, wait. Like, where's the actual, like, information, like, on the case? And I even went to, like, research to see, like, where's the, like...

the actual info like police report info i couldn't find much like she really hasn't talked about that much um but yeah she said that's how she relates to baby reindeer and how it makes her afraid to live at that house obviously does she still live there she still does and she's looking for her own a new place now and she says that because of that incident she goes to stay with her parents a lot obviously yeah i had a baby reindeer incident at that house and i was like i gotta

move at my last house it's like so scary because it's just like does like it's just creepy to know like that person could well i guess that person can't come back but yeah in a way that's more soothing i feel like knowing that person can't come back you know what i mean i would just be like knowing like in your yard that happened is so yeah oh right that's the worst case scenario because he's actually still there 24 7 haunting her like i would never stay there

Yikes. Oh my God. Yeah. You remember when we went back to the house that happened to me and we like heard like screaming at like two, we went back to do our final walkthrough with like a landlord and it was like middle of the day, like two o'clock PM in like the Valley studio city and never heard it in our house before. But literally there was like screams, like our last walkthrough of like, and we both heard it. We thought it was outside, but then no, it was coming from inside the house. And we went up to the master bedroom and we heard the screams again. It was like every like 10 minutes we heard like, it literally sounded like a woman being unalived.

- Insane type of scream, like something you would imagine in a sci-fi movie. And we were getting goosebumps, which you get when there's like ghosts in the area. - And I never experienced that. - That was the most, one of the most, I had a lot of supernatural things. That was like insane. We just walked out of the house. I think something happened at the house after you left. - Must have been. - 'Cause we left and we were renovating the house before we get back, give it back. - Yeah. - Something happened there.

That was crazy. And I was just like, and that's where I had all my stalker incidences and stuff like that. Like really scary. What a lie. Like overdose. I had a lot of stuff happen at the house. I ran all over the house to see if there was a radio on or a TV. The house was empty. We moved out. Like there were paintings. It was our final day. Painting the house. So nothing on the walls, nothing. And I was running around. I was like, I got to find something. There must be a radio or TV on. Something somewhere making this noise. It was insane. We walked outside, walk around the house to see if the neighbors...

It was wild. That was scary. So probably the same kind of thing. Like you said, like the energies are still there. It's like got to move immediately. Yeah. There's something like that. I always did. Even when I got like my Lamborghini stolen from my apartment, I was like moving. Like anytime that something happens, it's like,

crazy like that. I mean, and she can, I mean, I know what everyone can economically, but she probably could just move. Totally. And yeah, I'm surprised that she still stayed there after that. She's really interesting to me because she is like so private. Like she doesn't really do press unless she like has to for like something she's promoting. Obviously like right now she's promoting like her new Netflix movie. Oh,

Is it like a comedy or what is it? Yeah, it's like a Mother's Day. It was like a Mother's Day comedy. Something bride. I forgot. How come we didn't get her on the podcast? She wouldn't. I don't think she would say much. But she does. Like the Whitney one, she kind of said a lot. I was like, okay. But she's like really good friends with Whitney. Oh, really? How random. Yeah.

So I think that's why she said more there than she ever really does. But like, yeah, all her interviews are just so like... Give us nothing. Perfectly like PR, you know? That's why I think this was really surprising that she even talked about this again. Yeah, I wouldn't bring it up. I mean, I feel like that's one of those things that you can't bring up. Like, it's just so...

Also, like, why? It's just, like, dark. It's just, like, dark energy. I, like, never, like, talking about stuff like that. Like, the guy with the – do you remember that dress that was, like, is it white and gold or blue and black? Yes. And he, like, unalived his wife today. It just came out, and I was just, like – and it was, like, graphic. And I was, like – I'm, like, I know it's a hot topic, but I'm, like, I don't even like talking about it because it's, like, so dark. It's so, like, scary. Yeah. Or, like, that pastor. Just, like, all the dark stuff. We never talk about, like, sad stuff because I'm just, like – I don't know. And stalker stuff is really scary, especially when that stuff happens. It's just, like –

Yeah, especially, I mean, she's like, was it 20? She was 23 at the time. So like a 23 year old girl, like having to experience that and then keep it so private for so long. It's crazy. I'd be moving back with my parents for sure. I know. I would never, literally never go back to the house. I stopped when I had weirdos come to my house. Um,

It was just that one house. I don't know why. There was like two or three that came. That's when like literally – it was like every time like Moses and I weren't talking, then I would be like asking him to come over and I'd be like, can you come over and stay with me because I'd be like so scared. It always happened when Moses and I weren't talking. I always thought that was sus. I'm like, hmm, is Moses planting these people here to just come to my house? Because he was like – we wouldn't talk for like a couple weeks or a month and then a weirdo would come to my house and break in and I'm like – and then I'd call Moses. I'm like, can you come over? Like –

No, I would always park outside so they would see that somebody was there. So every time I wasn't there, because obviously if you have a stalker, he's watching the house. So whenever I wasn't there, somebody would show up. Like right away. It'd always be like when you weren't there for like a couple weeks or whatever. And I'd be like, okay, can you please come back?

Every time. Maybe that's why we're together. I feel like I just had so many stalkers at that house that I was just like, come back, come back, come back. I'm the bodyguard. It's like the movie. You did save the day a lot of times. Even when I had security too. It's so weird. I don't know. Anyways, it's dark. It's scary. You know who gives us nothing in interviews? And I want him so bad on this podcast, but every time I see him in an interview, I'm just like, oh my God, absolutely not. He'd probably hate me. Oh, Lord. Who? Do you know? Who? Mike Feist. Did you see him with Emma Chamberlain?

No. Oh, the Mike Gallo one? Yeah. Him and Josh O'Connor? Yeah. Did you see that one? Yes. A lot of people in the comments are saying maybe that's like his personality is just dry or whatever like that. But he gave nothing. She was asking like their favorite candy. And Josh was like Jolly Ranchers or something. And she's like, oh, my God. Yeah, Jolly Ranchers. Like love. And then she asked Mike, what's your favorite candy? He's like, not that. And she's like, okay, but what would it be? He's like, just not that.

And then he said something else. Like there was another one where he gave absolutely nothing. Oh, he ended the interview. He's like, okay, well thank, oh, she's like, oh, are you guys like matching? And they're like, I mean, it's the way they like, you know, like whatever. It's like the same designer. She was, oh, but like the beads and whatever. And then he's just like, okay, thank you. Like for the interview, like left it. I was like, and Emma gets like the good out of everybody. Right. She's like, yeah, I was like,

Never mind. I love Mike Vitis more than anything in the whole world. Well, there was another interview that went viral. I forget which outlet it was, but it was like the Challengers, like Junk It. And Mike, you could see he was like looking away, like kind of falling asleep. And Zendaya kind of go like, Mike, you okay there, buddy? Because he was so like...

Oh. Maybe he's just tired. She was like, yeah, like, you know, it's been a long day. We're almost at the end of press. But it was like her and Josh were still like kind of high energy. But then Mike was just like. He hates interviews, I think, maybe. Even like Josh Nocona, like someone asked him, I think at one of the Challengers premieres, he was like, so how do you feel knowing like this role could like elevate your career and make you even more famous? And he goes, oh, God, that's horrible. Majestic.

That's so random. I think they're just like not really, you know, Hollywood boys maybe. I don't know. I kind of love that. I love that about him. But I saw him be interviewed. Mike Feist was getting interviewed by like two six-year-old girls in his hometown. Yes, and he was so cute. Yeah. Then he was like happy and giggly. And I was like, okay, maybe he just is like over. Or maybe that just is his personality. Like he's just dry. Because even Zendaya was singing a little Dear Evan Hansen in an interview. And he was giving nothing back. Like, you know when she's like, I want to hear you do a little Dear Evan Hansen. And he was like, there you go. You guys just did it. I was like.

Oh my God, if he's not even doing that for Zendaya, like, he would actually be the worst. No, I think it's from like Ohio. Ohio. Oh, I thought maybe it was a European thing. Yeah, maybe. I thought so. Maybe. He does look, we talked about that he looks European. He does look English, yeah. But he's literally just Midwest, like from Ohio. Like, I think he's adopted. I did a whole deep dive. I think it's just, a lot of theater guys are like that though too, just in general. They take themselves very seriously. Like Christian Borle, I know we always talk about him too, but he's also very serious. They make the theater...

people, they have a lot of judgments toward Hollywood actors. And when they become one, they're like, oh, no.

I feel like that's their dream is to be like Jeremy Jordan. He was the guy from Smash season two. Do you remember him? The one that dated Catherine McPhee? He was like the young kid, kind of like the one that's like, whatever. Anyways, he was supposed to be in Greatest Showman as Zac Efron's part. And I guess they went with Zac Efron because he's a bigger name, but he was like still bitter, not bitter, but still like upset about it. He always tells the story and whatever, how they went with a big Hollywood name. But I feel like their dream is to be Hollywood. You don't think so?

Or do you think they just think they're better? I think it's the group that didn't become Hollywood, so naturally they... But Mike Weiss is Hollywood now. He's so mainstream. Right. So now he's like, oh, no. I turned my back on my roots. That's interesting. All my friends think I'm... Now I'm this a-hole Hollywood star. Oh, he's trying not to be that meme. Okay. Maybe I see that. Yeah, Broadway people don't translate to mainstream. It is interesting. I don't think... I don't know why. Yeah.

But yeah, they probably think they're more talented. I always get that vibe. I want to be on Broadway, so I don't want to give anything. But I feel like theater people. And you know what?

To their credit, they are probably more talented than everybody because- It's a totally different set of skills. I mean, to go up every night and act your thing and sing and dance and all that. I mean, it's a completely different set of skills. Yeah, you have to be a home run in all those categories where like actors on TV can be coached, edited, whatever. They could be horrible actors and still do well on movies. That's the tea right there. So you know what? I give them, yeah, you're right. You should be snotty because you are better than everyone. Now I do think Broadway actors are better than everybody. Okay.

I'll go with that. I think they're the most elite. Not the elite. What is the word? Elite. Not like a rich elite, but like the most talented. It's like the X game of, you know, like they're the super athletes. Who's that? What's the X game? They're like the super athletes of. What is the X game? Like the Olympians. Yeah. Okay, Olympians. But what's an X game? You know the X games? No. What is it? No, I don't hear from Moses.

Moses. He looked to you too. What's an X game? You know the X game. At the time when I was young, it was like, you know, skateboarding, like all kind of stunts and really crazy kind of like sports that are not the traditional sports. Oh, okay. I actually never heard of that. Is that what you were going to say? I went to an X games once. But Olympians is probably what I'm more mad at. They're the Olympians of acting. I just never heard of that. Like I really

I really thought it was like Twitter, like the X of Twitter. So I was like, they're X Games? I wasn't being mean. I was just like trying to figure it out. Because I was like, what is an X Game? And then he smiled and laughed. I thought maybe we're making it up. I was like, wait, what is an X Game? Because he was laughing and looking. And I was like, wait, what? The X Factor. Yeah, right. Watching America's Got Talent now. I was like, oh, did you get the TikTok I sent you? No. When did you send it? The one of the, what's the band in the movie, The Idea of You? You know what I'm talking about?

Which one? The band and idea of you. And the song, well, they were singing, you know, like at Coachella or wherever they were singing. And the song they were singing is like Roman Catholic choirs. And it was the One Direction. Did you get that one? No. Where'd you send it? To your TikTok. The entertainment tonight? Yeah. You always send me stuff from there. Do you? Yes. If you go through our messages, it's like a ton of TikToks. It might not be me. You know what? I think.

You know the whole staff has... And I don't use the TikTok. I didn't know that. But what I do think it is... Maybe I'm just sending TikToks to random people over there. They're like, does she work here? No.

I think what it is, is your phone number must be attached to it because Moses too, when he texts me a TikTok, it goes through the messages on TikTok. So I think when you text it to me, because I'll see that once you've sent me in there. So, okay, well, maybe I should text it to you then. I was like, I'll just reply, I guess, back to this. That is so funny. Not just your coworkers are getting random ones. Somebody at DT is like, I'm a stalker. I don't know what to tell you. I'm the baby reindeer at DT. No, it wasn't me. That is so funny.

Gosh. Anyways. So what was the TikTok?

What was it? Wait, what? We were just talking about, was it One Direction? The Idea of You. Oh, The Idea of You with the One Direction singing at the X Factor. Oh. What's the song? The Coldplay. Yeah, The Coldplay. Yeah. I love that performance. I showed it to Moses. That's my favorite one. They're so bad, especially at the end where they're like, whoa. The vocals are just all over the place. Oh my God. How is it so awful? Anyways, I know we talked about that before, but it boggles my mind still to this day.

Here on the show, we have the brief and deep brief of the show. I know, I know. It's like, did you get that memo? Did you get the email? That's true. This is our time to do our communications. Our word communications. Nobody cares at all. Oh my God, so sorry. What do people care about this week? Do we have good things? I feel like it's a mess. Chris Olsen got ringworm. I feel, what? What? First of all, what is that? I'd rather talk about Georgie. Yeah, we gotta talk about Georgie. Chris Olsen got ringworm.

I mean, I don't know. TikTokers are having a rough week. He was crying too, I saw. He was crying about something this week. I mean, you know, valid. Was it the rainworm? What happened? Where did he get it? He got it at the gym. Aloe gym? Maybe. He didn't specify the gym, but it sounds like, obviously it has to be a bougie one. He was like, yeah, like I went to the gym and I guess I was on equipment that didn't get wiped down. And usually I shower right after I work out, but instead I went to a sauna. So it gave the rainworm ample time to...

It's infect him, I guess. He's trying to be a ringworm advocate, I think. We don't have any of that. So, yeah. No awareness. Because he posted like photos on Instagram of him like with his ringworm on his face. And he also got it down there. He didn't post the down there. What? On his genitals? I guess. He just said down there. Was he working out naked? Yeah.

How do you get it down there? Ew, what? I'm not saying ew to that. I'm just like, first of all, we see it on the face. It's fine. It's like if you have herpes in the face, just say, I have herpes. You see it on my face. You don't have to say, also, there's some down there. You could probably assume it migrates down that way. That's wild. Oh, my God. TikTokers are wild. Oh, my God. I feel for the TikTok social media stars because I'm just like, they kind of are wild. They're just a lot. That's a lot.

Right? I mean, I kind of appreciate that he's like, you know, trying to break down the stereotype against Ringworm. I didn't know there was one. I don't think there's something. What do you think Ringworm is like, oh, there's like a...

You think there's an actual worm in you, I guess. Did you... I want a tapeworm in me. That's what I want. That's the one that makes you skinny? Yeah. They eat your food for you. But ringworm is not a worm. No. Okay. I didn't know that, though. And so, see, I learned from Chris's advocacy about ringworm. It makes me just not want to go to the gym. And that's where you're getting ringworm. Again, I was thinking that, too. I'm like, he has to go to bougie gyms. I...

My 24 hour, as you know, is a very dubious kind of gym. I didn't know. Remember the guy, the senior citizen was blow drying his hole in the hand dryer? Oh. Yeah. Okay. Kind of. Yeah. Is that dubious? I mean, I don't think that's sanitary. Right. You know, so maybe you should report it.

He's just so old. I don't know. There was another guy who like had his like opened his shorts in front of the hand dryer. I think people are confused about what to do with the hand dryer. That's why I literally just dry my hands on my shorts because that's bad. Oh, same. Yeah. The ones where you like dip it into. I'm just like, absolutely not. Yeah. I think there was maybe I just learned it in a tech talk or there was a study. I don't know. Somewhere. Yeah.

Something I saw was that, like, that's actually where you get the most germs is from a hand dryer. I could see it. I totally believe it, especially from what I've witnessed. The hand dryer behind the door handle. I always am, like, with the door handle with the napkin. But you would think, Chris, is that, like, an aloe or equinox? I don't know. Yeah.

So maybe those gyms are secretly the dirtiest because they are so bougie. We want you to build us an Aloe gym, Moses. Yeah. We forgot to tell you that. That's for our Patreon video. Since Aloe won't invite us, can you recreate the gym in our garage? Yeah, send me some inspiration photos. Can you actually? Because that would be so cool. I feel like it wouldn't be that hard. It doesn't look that hard to recreate.

We have a lot of the equipment. We just need the aloe backdrop. We need something bougie, like bougie water or something in there. The lighting system, maybe. It's possible. I mean, garage is the easiest thing to convert. It's just blank walls. Because I really do want to go to the gym once I have this baby. But maybe if we have like a really cute gym outside. We should come up with a name for it, like our own name. We're going to be aloe. We want people to think we're aloe.

Not the aloe drink. Yeah. We're going to get sued. Looks like we're sponsored. No one's paying us. That's the one that's like, stop using our logo. We're seasoned to serve. Yeah. What if we do a Just Trish gym? We have the backdrop Just Trish. It's all pink. People want to come work out here. And it's like more fierce than aloe. Oh, yeah. We could do like pink lighting and have our water bottles. Yeah. And we have to get like...

people who are like still cool and popular but like Aloe is not inviting them yes like Tana hasn't gotten invited to Aloe but she has to have she said that she hasn't I also like is she really making an effort like I think if she actually made an effort she could I feel like if she wanted to she could for sure but

But I don't think she's like a gym girly, right? She doesn't really care about the gym. I don't think so. I think she just eats small portions because I've gone out to eat with her and I think she just eats small portions. I remember when I did it there, I was like, oh man, I feel like this is what normal people eat. They just eat like a little bit of their meal, not the full like meal that I get. I get like three meals when we go out. When we get Cheesecake Factory, I get fettuccine and chicken littles. Oh, that sounds so good. Right? It goes together like chicken and pasta. Yeah.

It's good. I love it. And then he'll get a flatbread sometimes and then of course I eat a little bit of Malibu's and it's just like a whole thing. Then when I go out to eat with regular people, I just eat regular normal food. I'm like, oh man. Just one dish. Just one dish. A little bit of baked potato, a little bit of steak. That's it. Leave a little on the plate. I'm going to try that. That's going to be my new goal is maybe a little bit more portion control, but yeah.

Anyways, the Aloe Gym. Hopefully you got that. If you have been rejected by Aloe, reach out to us. Reach out to us. You can come to Just Trish. We will foster you. We'll take you in. Yeah. We're going to be in the workout era for sure. Just Gym. Well, that doesn't really go... Well, okay. Maybe. Maybe Gym Trish or something. We need the branding in there. We need the Trish branding. Tralo. Oh, that's...

Oh, right. That's cute. Can you say it with an accent? Like you're doing the tavern, the aloe. Aloe. Aloe, traveler. That's our... A little accent over the top. I like that. Yeah. We pronounce it differently. I'm here for it. Just so don't sue us. Aloe. It's free promotion. Like, I can imagine them saying no. Why not? Can you open a McDonald's? Oh, okay.

I think you can't. Didn't Nathan for you do that? And he's like, you just say it's parody or something like that. I think he did a Starbucks, remember? And everyone was like, it's parody. Parody food? Yeah. Remember he gave it up for free? Do you remember that? No. No. Oh my God. Someone tell us. If they give it for free, yeah. Like I can see it. Oh, they don't make money off it. Yeah. You're not a commercial. Oh, I see. We're making money off our Patreon. Okay. Just kidding. Okay.

Well, shout out to Chris Olsen for standing up for the ringworm. Ringworm. Victims or whatever. Ringworm. Survivors. Survivors. No, he got prescribed a antifungal cream and yeast infection pills to battle the ringworm. Oh, okay. So you can get rid of it.

Yeah. But still bold to, you know, proclaim, especially when you're pretty, you know, I imagine it's like. Yeah, we don't want to think about that. Yeah. Well, I mean, like, it's so brave of him to, as a pretty person, to show that, you know, pretty people have problems too. That's true. That is very true. I know. You know, more people actually be more open with their...

stuff fungal infections i'd be more open that's what like offended me with like the whole herpes thing is when like all those people are accusing me of it i'm like i'd be like the number one like advocate for because i love to overshare everything you know what i mean i could be the face of it i could be in all the herpes commercials all that stuff like that so it's like i was more offended about that i was just like wait what like is this like if i was on ozempic i'd be saying ozempic i'd be like the face of it like i don't care like that's so weird i would be the advocate

But I'm not going to be an advocate for something I don't have, you know, like chlamydia. I'm like, yeah, okay, or gonorrhea. Take the red pill. It's gone. But it is a red pill, actually. You know how they always say red pill, blue pill? But it's an actual red pill. I don't know what the red pill gets you in politics, but. I think it's a matrix thing, no? Like the matrix. You take the red pill or the blue pill. I've never seen it. Me neither. Oh, it's not once. Yeah, because one will wake you up and one will keep you asleep. Oh. Which one do you take? I don't want to be asleep, I think. Same. Sleep forever. Who wants to be awake? I already took it, so. What'd you take? Which one did you take?

- The red pill. - Which one's that do? Or is that for gonorrhea? Just kidding. I don't know if you ever had gonorrhea. So far when we've been together, we have been not transmitting any diseases. - There's no echo chamber here. - Yeah, thank God. - We haven't introduced anything. - Yeah, because when I was doing OF too, I was always getting checked all the time.

But usually it's the non-people that do the non-performance stuff that don't get checked regularly. So I should be more concerned about you. It's usually the professionals that have it checked. You know what I mean? They always think it's the other way around. I'm a professional. Huh? I'm a professional. It's not commercial. It's not commercial. What? Commercial? It's a parody. Oh, okay. I have a parody account. Did you actually take a pill one time or are you just saying this?

I'm just saying, like you said, like if you choose to stay asleep in life or be awakened. Okay, got it. But did you actually take a red pill? I think it's a metaphor. But I'm saying I took an actual red pill for gonorrhea. Have you ever taken one? Oh, no, I'm talking about the politics one. Okay, well, that's what I was asking. I was like, maybe that was just for something else. I mean, red pills probably come in all forms for antibiotics, you know, but I don't know. I think my, one of my Adderalls is blue. My other one is red and pink.

Yeah. Red and pink? Yeah, it's like half pink, half red. Like, you know, the split in the middle. It's very like Pepto-Bismol, I think, does that too. I think, aren't they just pink? I've actually never taken a Pepto-Bismol pill. Oh, you haven't? I've always taken it in the jug. I don't like the texture of Pepto-Bismol, so I take the pill. I love like cough syrups and stuff. I actually love them. Oh, I hate cough syrups. Really? I'm like a baby about it. I love them. They taste good. No, I hate it. I love like...

The honey texture of it all. Oh, no. Really? The Pepto-Bismol is also like thicker and like weirdly creamier. Oh, I don't live for that. We should do a Patreon video trying all the different liquids out there when we're sick one day. Just try all of them. I don't know if that's safe. I guess probably not, but...

be fun i love coming up with patreon videos it's so fun i'm just really into drama get it it's really consuming me i want to watch the other i know i literally cannot wait it's all i've been thinking about especially because i think james charles tweeted over the weekend um someone had like the cross streets did you see that yes it was what was it dick and coffee yeah he's like time and place that was wild the prelude to the time and place what she was saying she's like and then it's like she's like time and place i mean but is there a time and place for that yeah that's my favorite part

I don't think there's a time and place for a 38-year-old and a 19-year-old to have those conversations ever. Yeah. Anyways. Yeah. Thinking about that, like him talking about the waiter and like – and it's like all – if it's Tati's birthday dinner, it's also like 38-year-olds because she said it was like her childhood friends and Jeffree Star, I guess. Okay. It's lame. Yeah. What a dinner. Yeah.

What a dinner. What a weird – anyways. Saga, you know. The saga is – I love that you're involved in the drama again five years later. I love it. It's also so on brand for you. I was thinking about it. I was like – Decades later. It doesn't make sense. I love finding out old tea. I was so out of it. I remember people talking about it. I'm like, I don't care. But now I care. You thought you were the drama getting at the time. Oh, yeah. We talked about that. How I –

How I really thought like I was getting, I was getting canceled by everyone. PewDiePie was making a video about me. Like it was getting canceled by every single person that week. But. Bigger fish to fry. There were. I know. There were. And I was just so consumed with myself. That's a good lesson too. Is no one's really thinking about you as much as you're thinking about yourself. You know what I mean? Because it's like, I really thought my life was over at that time. And I was like, oh, no one probably really cared because like drama getting was going on. Unless you're like Tati and James, then I think you were the most thought about. Oh, for sure. Right, right. If you're. Right, that's true. I'm.

never been on that scale so I don't know except for when my daughter was born and people thought she was a queen in England maybe they did that to distract people from your drama you know shout out Tatsu and James you pay you know the conspiracies you pay them to like cover it up create a drama I know maybe I feel like that does happen a lot

Because I think this week it was like Kim was getting canceled, Kim Kardashian. And then Khloe just came out of nowhere. It was like I gave a purity test to Tristan because I thought Rob was the dad. I was like, what? Crazy. Yeah. I was like, wait, where is this coming from and why? Chris was like, we need one of you to say something dumb. Dumb. For real. For real.

sure. She's like, I think it's Rob. Then she said something about the doctor wanting to keep her baby after it was delivered. I didn't see that at all. Yeah. Oh my God. After her surrogate. Yeah. So basically she was away for the weekend with True and the doctor's like, no, this baby has to be born two weeks early. It has to be born now. And she's like, but I can't come back. I'm away for the weekend. And he's like, oh, I'll just keep the baby till you come back. The doctor said that. Where was Chloe saying all this? First of all, like, where was she? She must've been doing an interview. Cause there was like all this tea. She was, I saw her like sitting somewhere. So she's like doing a pop. Oh,

Oh, it was definitely a podcast. Joey? Spill or spew. I don't know what it was. It was a girl. It was like a woman, like a blonde woman interviewing her. She was doing like full on tea everything. Like just so – like I appreciated the honesty. There was some where she's like I didn't feel connected to, you know – I forget her baby's name. Yeah.

Her boy baby. She didn't feel connected to him for six months. Like, I appreciate the honesty of that, but some of the stuff she does is, like, wild. Because for her, it's like that's her reality, so it doesn't seem so. But for most of us that don't use surrogates, it's… What part of it?

to be i mean yeah you're detached you didn't carry the baby it's it's creates so many yeah but i carried ours and i still was detached that's what i'm saying i appreciate like her honesty of that because it's like i feel like when i say it everyone's like oh my gosh you're not attached to the baby for six months or whatever but it's like it can be a disconnect for anyone i mean yeah surrogacy probably is a whole other disconnect she said kim didn't feel that way but i definitely didn't feel that way that's why i just appreciate when people talk about that stuff because i'm like you feel like a bad mom if you don't connect right away to like a baby you're just kind of like who's this baby

Although she might have been something else. She was on the SheMD podcast. Oh, my God. I love that they do all these random ones. I know. Like the skinny, but not skinny, not fat one. They always do. And her son's name is Tatum. Tatum. Tatum and True. That makes sense. Yeah, she kind of was just wild in this podcast. Yeah, then she said she lost 80 pounds after she gave birth.

To True in 2018. Oh. And everyone's like, are you sure it wasn't Ozempic? That's so funny. But T, I kind of agree with her. I feel like really I'll get back down to the weight I started from because I really do feel like the weight I gain is just baby weight because I eat so much less when I'm pregnant.

So I think I will be skinny. Yeah, you're going to get like instantly slender. I love that slender is – All right. You can't call people skinny. So I mean I have to at this point. This is just ridiculous. But I don't eat a lot. So I think – I remember last time when I had the baby, I was like skinnier than when I started and it was –

Quite amazing. You're right, Chloe. I guess I was really out of it last week because I'm like just reading this stuff. I'm like, she is wild. She's trying to persuade Tristan into giving her another baby. No. Yes. I didn't hear that part. She wants another baby with actress and Thompson and plans to persuade the NBA star despite their tense history. Wait, what? Girl, first of all, if you have to persuade anyone to have a baby with you, maybe not. That's crazy.

Chloe was really saying a lot last week, I guess. I mean, they're very much into the, like, we want the same baby daddy for all the kids. Like, they've always said that. Like, Chloe, too. She goes, I just want the same, them to be siblings, to have the same father. I'm like, is it that important if, like, the father's, like, not real? Yeah. I don't know. That seems... And isn't the show coming back soon? Yeah. So, I mean, like, all of that, this is all in the show. Oh, yeah. That's what we were saying. I was like, you know, I feel like Kim will talk about Taylor. Yeah.

Because she never talked about it. And Kendall was also on Vogue this past week, too. Oh, what did she say? Anything? She talked about feeling pressure to have a baby because her family all wants her to have one. She's thought that she would have a baby by now or whatever. She's still young, isn't she? She's still young, yeah. But I guess when you're the only one, you kind of feel that pressure, I guess. Oh, my gosh. I feel like when you have – her sister's had them older, too. So it's like I wouldn't feel that much pressure. Except for Kylie. Kylie.

Right, I guess Kylie is the exception. But most of them. Like, Courtney, what was she? 45 or something when she had her last baby. But then she also kind of denied being a nepo baby when it comes to modeling. Again? Oh, girl. This is like the cancellation where you just got to own up to it. Be like, I'm a nepo baby, but also I'm killing it. So who cares? She said that she definitely worked her way to being a model and that she was going to castings in the middle of nowhere. What does that mean? God.

She went to Glendale. She's like, I'm like Pasadena.

Oh my gosh. You're so right. Like, what does that mean? Middle of nowhere. She's not going to Kansas. They didn't come to her house. Right. She's like, I actually went out, which no one does anymore. Anyways, since the pandemic, everyone just, Oh my God is so wild. But yeah, then they, this article kind of clocked her. Cause then they put clips of, um, keeping up with the Kardashians where Chris talked about setting up meetings for Kylie and Kendall to do like modeling stuff when they were like 13, 14. Yeah. No, for sure.

For sure. I mean, you have to have an in. It's so hard to get into the industry. Like, it's one thing, yeah, you have to work hard and do all that stuff like that. But it's like, you have to have ins. You can't just like, even now, it's so hard for me. It's like, you have to have an in. And then, oh, yeah. So her first campaign was Marc Jacobs. And then I guess Vogue also went to Marc and was like, yeah, I had no idea who they were. And I didn't really want to be associated with them. But I thought I could Kendall a shot. And then Kendall was driven to prove people wrong. So she wanted to slay Vogue.

And the rest is history. Was anyone, like, against them? Was anyone, like, no, they have not what it takes? They're skinny and pretty. I mean, that makes... I know. Kendall especially. She's, like, skinny, tall, and... Who was, like, saying this isn't going to work? Maybe me. I could, like, if I walked for Marc Jacobs, I'd be like, wow, I beat the odds. You know what I mean? But, like, Kendall, you're skinny, rich, and pretty. So... I don't think you were, like, going against that many odds. But...

I love. Oh, my God. You know, everyone has their struggles. I'm not going to, you know, whatever. Oh, my God. That is so funny. Struggles with that. Well, she cut in the cucumber. She had this weekend pouring the tequila or whatever. Oh, my girl. She was struggling with that, too. In Vegas? Yeah. They look good. Like you said, they slayed. They look so good. They're gorge. It's like hard to be against them because it's also like, damn, you're so pretty. I kind of forget. I know. Kim had such a cancellation this week and I think rightfully so. But also, she slayed at the Met. So I was like, that's what I'm wearing this week. Oh, my God.

Remember we hated her metal look because it was too skinny. Oh, right. Well, I'm the opposite of her. I'm the opposite. You're like the unproblematic. I just belly out. Did she actually take crepes out or do we know? Was it the actual corset? I think it was just the corset. She did like a get ready with Vogue and showed how. Did it go in that much though? I think so, yeah. And she's also like.

Like, I don't know. She goes really unhealthy to get skinny. Yeah, she'll say, like, not eating. Or they asked her how she was breathing and she's like, it's like an art form. You know, it's like, breathing shouldn't be an art form. It should be something you just do. You know what I mean? You just have to, like, practice breathing. But her Mugler one was like that, too. The one where it was, like, dripping wet. Yeah. So I guess that's just her thing. Also, I think just the proportionality.

proportion to her waist or her hips were probably just like so – that's what made it more cartoonish or just more shocking. Yeah. I mean, either way, it's definitely not healthy because even corsets, like – because you have to train your waist to get that way. Like, this is not good. It squeezes your organs and stuff like that, like that. So I feel like it's unhealthy in general to promote that, but –

you know, that wasn't the worst of her cancellations last week. So I was like, I guess for that, it's like, give her a pass. Yeah. So I was like, okay, I like her though. She's pretty. It's pretty privileged. Anytime I see anyone pretty, I'm just like, well, they're pretty. I don't know. Hailey Bailey too. This looks like Hailey Bailey's dress here. It's just like all flowers. Pretty. That was her headpiece. Yeah. Yeah.

It's wild. It's so wild. Like, when people... It's so wild, too, is, like, when people say, like, they don't pay someone because they're trying to, like, seem relatable. But also, it's like, why aren't you paying people? You know what I mean? Yeah, why... Especially when you have the means to do so, you know? It's like... It's not like a Law Roach Zendaya thing where they, like, went in together. Like, they were gonna come up. They're like, okay, like, we're...

we might be struggling for a little bit at first, but like no matter what, like we're going to get there and we're going to help each other up. And I'm sure he's still getting paid. Yeah. It's like Chris Appleton still gets paid to do Kim Kardashian's hair. You know what I mean? Like I'm sure they're still getting paid. So I hope that's like, she was just saying that to be relatable and it's not true because that did kind of make me sad. It's like always pay designers. You know how we talked last week about the new trend is more like family home cooked meals. People don't care anymore about the glamorous and the expensive stuff. So it's funny to see people go to the Met Gala and the minute after they're like,

when they get criticized for $75,000, like, oh no, I didn't buy the ticket. Oh no, I didn't pay for the dress. I just showed up. It's not, I'm like, no, just own it. Or say you're a normal person. I guess she spends like $17,000 on rent allegedly or something like that. And it's just like, yeah, it's kind of wild. Like I would never say like I'm a normal person, but also I'm like, I wouldn't say I'm like,

I guess she was just trying to combat it. I think my best advice to Hailey Bailey is maybe delete the original TikTok and then people find it a little bit more sincere. Was it... It wasn't like sponsored or anything? Is she contractually obligated to? That's really the only thing I can think of. I'm assuming she went in a partnership with TikTok because they were the sponsor of the Met Gala. She did say that. She's like, I did go with TikTok, but I didn't even go to the Met Gala is basically what she was saying.

Because that really is the only excuse. And I guess also if that was the excuse, she should have said that in the apology. So I'm assuming – then actually I'm going to walk that back. I don't think that can be the excuse. Yeah. She would have said – But then they cut clips with her like, I'm just a normal person. I'm not even elite. Oh, she said she just came home right after the TikTok interviews. But then in the other one, she said she just came back from after parties. Oh, no. I know. I think you get caught up. And then they showed a clip of her giving her $17,000 apartment tour and just how much she spends on it. And it's just like – it's just like – you know what?

I just think people with one bathroom is just like, how do you even do it? Because she had like three bathrooms in New York. So I think it's just, again, I've been there like out of foot and mouth or you like forget you say something or whatever, but it's also like trying to backpedal and pedal it back. It's kind of like people who also keep it moving, like Michaela, you know, who like never address anything. I don't know. It's just all like flash in the pan. You look cool, by the way. I like your converse. Oh, thanks. You look like West Side Story. Did you watch it over the weekend? No.

I certainly didn't know your jacket looks like that you like Mike Feist you know what's so random I got this jacket because I was like I'm gonna wear this jacket for um to meet Pokimane because this was gonna be my outfit I know you should have kept it for it I guess she'll come back I know I'll get a new outfit for

I love it. Where do you shop? Where do you get something like that? I actually don't remember. I just was at the mall like pre that big chunk of interviews we did pre Ted, pre all of them. Oh, I see. Yeah. It was just like on a rampage trying to find something. To find anything. But I invested over the weekend because I guess Memorial Day sales happened early. So I was like, let me actually start buying some clothes. Does that apply to the Tesla truck? Do they have Memorial Day sales? Oh, my God. I did go to the Tesla store. And what did they say?

They said the guy was also like, he was not feeling me, I guess. I don't know. He was almost like scoffing when I was like, so what's the tea with Cybertrucks? And he's like, well, like probably like a year. You're looking like at a year. Um,

He's like, they're starting at $100K, but they were supposed to have the $60K model coming out soon, but there's no timeline for that. I was like, oh, okay. Oh. So I was like – because my lease is going to be up. So I was like, okay, so if my lease is up, you think I'd be able to get one? He's like, oh, you don't even have a reservation? So you're looking at like two years. What? Yeah.

Oh, I hate that. Me too. And I was like, didn't you have the dream that Elon was going to just give us Cybertrucks? Yeah, he's going to. Yeah. So I wish I almost did say two. I was like, well, my boss said she had a dream. We're getting free ones, actually. We'll be like Kim Kardashian is posing outside of the Tesla truck. I see it. My boss tweeted Elon. Yeah. Oh, yeah. That's a good one. Say that next time. That would have been everything. What else were we manifesting? You were manifesting something. What was I manifesting for you?

You said something the other day and I was like, oh my God, that's so, it wasn't the cappuccino maker, was it? Pasta sauce? The pasta sauce. Shout out, shout out, Caboni. Is that the name? Yes, babe. What? Oh my God. That's literally the name on it. That's how you say it? I didn't think that. What did you think it was? I was reading it in my head. I didn't think that. No, but we were saying, I was saying if I had like a line of food, like, or an Italian restaurant or anything Italian food.

I would call it 14%. Oh, no, but that wasn't it. There was something that you were like manifesting. You're like, oh, maybe. God, who wasn't? I wanted to give a shout out on the podcast. I know. Baby brain. You can literally blame everything on that. You have to take advantage of the last few days. Literally, I know. And I'm eating whatever the last few days. I'm like, what can I eat after this? Pasta. That's why I went to Bangin Buns. What else did we eat last week? Oh, Domino's. Domino's, yeah. Oh, that sounds just heavenly right now. I really milk those leftovers too. Bangin Buns was so good. Mmm.

The Wendy's bucket of nuggets also looks so good. Is that real? I saw, I guess it's in some locations, but maybe if we just go to Wendy's and ask if they can put the nuggets in a bucket. I feel like we're on their PR list. Oh, yeah, but that's what I'm saying. Do they have a bucket just of stuff ready to go or what? I don't know. Maybe we show up with the bucket. They ship us the bucket. Wendy's, make it happen. We're not sponsored by any of these brands we just mentioned, by the way. We're just fans. Someone sent you something too. Loving Tan. I felt like Emma Chamberlain when they DM'd me. I was like, oh my God.

Why Emma? Is she tan? I don't get it. Because she was like the original influencer that I saw at least. Really? That like was promoted Loving Tan. Then they sent her stuff. And then Antonio Garza also. She was on the Loving Tan cake. So I felt like Antonio, Emma. And I love them. So...

I never really knew Loving Tan before, but I think I have some of their stuff. They might have sent it to me. Can't remember. I need it. I'm so pale today because I ran out of Loving Tan. But when that package comes in, you bet your bottom dollar. Scrub Daddy sent us for free. Promo everything. Justin and Hailey? They're pregnant. Congrats, Justin and Hailey.

Oh, actually, everyone wanted to know if this was the pregnancy in your canceled episode. Tana and Brooke were talking about like something breastfeeding or something. And then Brooke gave Tana a look like she wasn't supposed to say. And everyone thought that they secretly knew about Justin and Haley's pregnancy this whole time. Oh, my God. I think that's a reach. Do they know this? It was your episode. I thought you would have the tea. Did I say something?

And it was your episode with them. Someone mentioned maybe breastfeeding or something. And then Tana was talking about someone being pregnant. And then Brooke kind of gave her a look like she wasn't supposed to say something. I mean, if that is true, I didn't. But if they were friends with Justin and Haley, I feel like they would talk about that easily. Not that I know of, but also I didn't know what they were talking about. So I could be way out of the loop for sure. Yeah.

Where was that theory? I really thought you'd have the tea. I guess it also could have been like Logan Paul maybe because he also announced their pregnancy after that episode too. Are they friends with that? There's so many people pregnant now. I love it. Baby boom happening. Are they friends with Logan and them? I feel like it wouldn't be hard for them to hear about it, right? Like there has to be similar circles. And even Hayley, like Hayley has a lot of influencer friends. Brooke saw Hayley at Coachella. Oh, so maybe she didn't know something. Maybe she knew.

don't think so. I don't know. I don't know the tea of it all. But also I don't know the tea of a lot of things. Sometimes I literally could be right there in person and I'm talking about it. I'd be like, I have no idea what this means. But I haven't talked to them in a while. I gotta talk to them. No, I did. I guess my birthday. They wished me happy birthday. I didn't

send me flowers yeah and Brooke sent me happy birthday everyone yeah it was a birthday birthday extravaganza I cried on my birthday I didn't even talk about that but I don't think it's really that important but I got have you ever gotten spilled on at a restaurant no I saw your Instagram story I was gagged because also like it's like the fact that it's your birthday you also feel bad for like yourself but also the person who like you know I feel bad for

every single person and I cried so hard I was like and I couldn't control myself and I was like what is wrong with me because obviously it was an accident and people spill all the freaking time but I cried so hard I've never cried that much but luckily the tiktok comments sent it back and so I don't even want to talk about it because I don't want to sound like oh my god like I got spilled on whatever but all the tiktok comments were like if it's not if it's your birthday and you didn't cry I was like okay so many people cry on their birthday so that's good but I felt bad mostly because Malibu was having such a good time because this was her first time sitting in not a booster sheet

She's like literally a year and a half and she's like sits up in these chairs. So she's like looking at the water. She's eating her butter noodle. She's having like such a good time. And we're so excited for the desserts to come. And the desserts come and like Malibu loves singing happy birthday. That's her favorite thing. She sings it every day. She sings it to everyone. And then when my birthday actually happened, she was like super excited. So then I kind of come out singing happy birthday. And I guess he was putting down the cheesecake and the butter cake. All the, I don't know what it was, cream or something for the cake just started like spilling all over me. Oh my God. I was so mortified. It felt like Carrie. So I like, I couldn't see, obviously I couldn't see it like,

who was doing it. So I thought it was like a hater. I thought it was something, I thought it was like a Kim Kardashian moment. Someone trying to spill something on me because it's like birthday, right? And Moses was filming something. Someone's trying to ruin it and you can't really see in the thing, whatever. Of course, not knowing again, it's the server. It doesn't matter, you know, whatever. So then I was like, I ran to the bathroom because I was so embarrassed because in the video, I'm like, it's okay. Like I just was like so embarrassed. And then I came back

And then my mom's gift to me was on the floor and all the cream went into the bag. He must have just not known. Like it was just spilling out of the tray. He didn't know this, that he was spilling. Yeah. He was putting things on the table. Meantime, his tray was spilling on her. Her entire right side was covered. My hair, my arm. Everything was covered. So then I came back. I was like, whatever, I'm sticky. It's not a big deal. And then on the way there, one of the managers, I think he's a manager. I don't know. He was like in a suit. He's like, oh, someone had an accident. Like my daughter did that or something. I was like, first of all, not in class.

No. So then anyway, I came back and then it was all over my mom's present. And then I just started like sobbing hysterically because like my mom never knows what to buy me. And I was like, oh no. And so I just started sobbing. And then my mom, I think that it was like funny at first, but then I think she thought, saw that I was being sad. So then I like ran out of the restaurant. So dramatic. I was like crying hysterically. And then, you know, when people come out after you, it makes it worse. So like the manager was coming over and then my sister came out with me and then Moses came out. I was just like,

I just wanted to leave so bad. I was so, so sad. I was so devastated. They did comp the desserts, but also we left the desserts because everyone leave. We're leaving right now. Well, Malibu is the only one that she had the dessert. She had a little frosting. Because while all of this is happening, I made sure to put a big scoop on her plate. Yeah, she really wanted that. And she was like, we're coming back. And she was like, eating her dessert. They did call me. Masters did call me the next day. And I returned their call. They never called me back. I was like, okay, well. Because that's like our spot. Yeah.

and our server was like our server all the time. Like he's our server. He wasn't the one that spilled. And again, it was like not a big deal by people. That's the other thing too. When I was in the bathroom, I told my mom, like I was thinking, I hope he doesn't get fired because I don't know. I don't know what happened to me. I just didn't know what happened. I'm like, did someone do it on purpose? Whatever. So mine was all discombobulated and then I just like ran. I ran out of there and it was even more embarrassing as we left the gifts there. So they called us and I ignored it at first. I was so embarrassed. We're never going back there anyway. So it doesn't matter. I'm going to just whatever because I'm just like more so because I'm embarrassed, not because of anything. But I was like,

So we just, we left and it was, it was, and the whole birthday I was like in bed because I was like thinking I was giving birth. I was tired. And so I got, I had nothing fit either. So I like put on a dress. I didn't feel good. And then we went out and it was good. And then that happened. And then I was just like, and then we, well, we left the presents and then my sister had given me cash and like lotto tickets. So I was like, well, we better go back and get them just in case they're the winners or whatever.

And then we went back and then it was just, yeah. My birthdays are never great. You know, they're always in a little bit of a disaster. So, and I thought I was good the whole day. Cause I'm like, I'm laying in bed the whole day. Like nothing can go wrong. Yeah. Going to Masters in Malibu. Like we go there every month. Like not a big deal. Yeah. It was kind of wild. But anyways, that was our birthday. It was crazy. Yeah.

I didn't look at the... It was bad. Like, it's not like the amount that was spilled on her. No, yeah. I saw it on your story. And you don't even see in the video, like, her. And she's just so, like, you know, she doesn't want to make anyone feel bad. So she takes it all on herself. I'm like, it's not your fault. Somebody spilled. Luckily, it wasn't something hot. Yeah. Or something that is really problematic. Or the dress wasn't, you know, like... I mean, it was Fashion Nova, so... Everything was replaceable. But it just...

I'm sorry it happened. Yeah, it was sad. The manager was kind of not nice about it. She was just not very understanding. I was just like crying. I was so upset. But anyways, it was fine. But I feel like we got charged more actually. Because I didn't get to look at the breakdown of the bill. But I was like, this seems way more expensive than normal. It's weird. Because, you know, they came to me and they said, don't worry. Everything is taken care of. Don't worry. Because they felt bad. And I was like, okay. Everything is taken care of. But then I come and like. I think they charged us more. I should have looked at the receipt. But I didn't look. Because I was so like discombobulated. I was like. Just get out of there. Just sign and go.

whatever and so I don't know what if they charge us more because I was crying and making a scene they're actually like this is a disruption fee we should have looked that's why I wanted to call back I was just like I just I probably should have looked because like it should not have been that expensive anyways doesn't matter birthday was a disaster I don't know why I'm bringing this up it was a hot topic let's talk about people who actually should be cancelled we made up for it on Mother's Day we did we went to Malibu we went to bougie bougie Malibu yeah that's fine laughing

It was a good time. I also didn't fit into anything or any booth anywhere. Let's talk about Dave Portnoy so we can get into beef with BFFs. Or do you want to talk about George? This is my straight point. You want to go into something else? What were we talking about? Just to finish the Justin and Hailey thing. I didn't know there was more to it. My favorite part is that as soon as the news broke, Selena Gomez posted an Instagram story of her holding Benny Blanco's hand. Oh my God. People are such haters. People are so hateful. It's like...

Was it right away? It was like a minute later? It was like an hour later. Kyle, that's a good girl. I hate that. I hate that when someone posts something and then you post something and it's like, oh my God, this is probably this. It's like, maybe you should just post that. Like, what?

But also the picture was kind of crazy. I thought he died or something like that. The black and white. Yeah. Holding hands like on like the deathbed or something. But I think it's also because she's liked a few like TikToks of like it's like fan edits like her and Justin or like Selena wrote this song about Justin. She's like likes the TikTok and stuff. So she does kind of get, you know, back in. Yeah.

would be hard. I think it would be hard to just hear people always talk about it. I don't know. I think in general too when like someone has like a baby, you just are like, oh, I don't know. Maybe not. I don't think she cares. Honestly, I don't know. I don't think I've ever dated someone that's had a baby after me or anything. But I'm like, I don't think you care.

I don't care. I just like, I don't know. People will tag me and stuff. Oh, this, this person. Like, I don't care. You know what I really don't. Maybe she had like no life. Like she's not Selena Gomez and she's not my boyfriend. Yeah. Like me in 2019 or something like that. But it's like,

I literally don't care. So I feel like she probably doesn't either. Yeah. Yeah. You're swaying me. Cause also like, I guess she'd be damned either way. Like if she didn't post anything, people like, wow, she must be really upset. Right. Or liking comments. Okay. I've liked comments and I just, I just, I'm always just boom, boom, boom. Just like, you know, who knows? I don't care. Just like, I like whatever.

And then someone's like, oh my God, she liked something about David Doe. I was like, I don't, I just liked. And then people make a big deal out of it. So she's probably the same way. She probably thinks it's because Selena fan account. It's like, okay, boom, boom, boom, boom. I don't think she cares as much as y'all care. You know what I mean? I really don't. Or, you know, sometimes you're just scrolling and you just like accidentally tap.

those damn tiktok lives like we're going so past those those tiktok lives are scary i'm like don't ever push inside of one i'm always like i'll go on one that has like 60 60 people in there and then oh trisha's in here i was like no get me out of here click on no and it takes you in there like like oh absolutely not trick us go so fast so people look like way into it i'm sure selena gomez does not care how long ago did they break up when was that like oh my god 20 years ago she

She was like 14. No, they got back together 2018, 2019? And then he went from Selena, the rebound, to Hailey later 2019. Ooh, right away? I think. It was kind of close. I don't think she cared because at first I was

well, you know, I guess it's always sad, but then I was thinking like, actually it's not. Like, if you're like moved on and you're like, she's on a TV show, like, you know, it's just like, I don't think. and she's like worth a billion dollars, I'm sure. Billion dollars in a relationship. He feeds her all the time. He says he always cooks for her. So I'm like, damn, like,

I don't know. I truly like I said, 2019 trash. I'm like on meth and like depressed, have no life. Like, yeah, I'm like thinking about exes. But now I like actually never do it. Some people bring them up. And I'm also like, I don't even care that I'm like, I still don't care. Like, I don't know, because you're so far removed from stuff. You know, it's like when we talk about David or anything like that. It's like we're so far. I'm so far removed from it. Or even Jeffrey. It's just like, I don't even feel like I know those people or that I ever did, you know?

And like you were saying earlier about Matt Rife. I think about him when we talk about him, I guess. Yeah. But I never think about David Dobrik outside of this. I'm never like, what's David doing? Like, couldn't care less at all. I mean, in a good way, in a healthy way because like, who cares? Have some tea. Yeah.

I don't think about anybody. This is the proof, like, you know, the Trish 2.0 or I guess it's probably like, what, like 8, 9, 11, 12. We'll say 8. It's a lucky number. People know who I care about. I care about Mike Weiss. Maybe if he was having a baby with someone, I'd be like, wow. I also, you forgot your little radish pin. I thought you were going to have one. I ordered it. I know. I was trying to find your hat and sunglasses. And I was trying to figure out one for Moses. I'm like, what are we going to wear in June? We'll come back in June with a Met Gala look.

I actually had like all this stuff. So I was like, okay, I'm going to wear this. But yeah, I did order it. It was off Amazon. They had a radish and then I sent it to blinged up. So bling it up for me. That's everything. Yeah. Oh my God. No, you know, if I'm thinking about someone and I always think about the challenges, we were at a hotel over the weekend. Malibu loves hotels. I really think they got that from us. Their little daughter loves hotels. Our baby loves hotels and she's fancy and she really does love hotels more than anything. She gets so excited. She gets on that bed. She giggles and laughs. They stole it from us.

I'm guaranteed. I love that movie. I can't wait for my Challengers era this summer once I get my belly out. We've got to learn how to play tennis to really seal the deal. We were doing that yesterday too because we saw tennis courts and I was like, oh, that'd be a good Patreon video. But I feel like my knee would hurt. Like she blew out her knee and she was like in good shape. We would have to just like tap it. We couldn't be running back and forth all crazy. I think we're more pick a ball speed. I think that's for older people and senior citizens. It's basically the same thing, right? It's the table one.

Ping Pong. We can do that too. I think that's more. Okay, I'm down for that. We got to dress like the characters too. I looked up Uniqlo. I was like, let's find those Uniqlo shirts. Oh, I love Uniqlo. They don't have the,

have the tennis ones online no it was just for the movie I guess that's so dumb it's like if you're gonna wear it wear it I saw there's an auction of all the stuff from the movie wait why didn't you tell me he doesn't want you to spend the money I think it was like either when I fell asleep last night I just remembered it there's an auction going on right now of all the stuff the actual objects wait why didn't you tell me this there's a sign from the movie where is it

Wait, a what? A sign? What sign? I think like the place where they played. Oh, the tire shop? Yeah. What was it? The actual challenge. I saw a shirt that was like the whatever, whatever challenge sponsored by Tubi's Tires. No way. Really? Oh, that's actually kind of everything. I know. I ordered like every Luave thing from the movie. I ordered the purse. I ordered like her little elephant charms she had on the purse, the shirt. I was like in love. I do love that. I told you so. That's so good. I saw a podcast of someone wearing it and their whole wall –

and ceiling fell in on them. Oh my God, I'm forgetting. I know it's Drew and Enya. Who's that? Who are they? Shoot, I forget the name of their podcast. It's going to kill me. What happened? Like the ceiling just came in on them or what? I just saw that TikTok too. I was like, wow, okay, Luave. And then all of a sudden the ceiling falling in. But also there's such like little...

They're like very you coded were like emergency intercom. Shout out emergency intercom. But they're very like you could it were like they're always like up to little antics and shenanigans. So I'm like, but also that's a hard thing to like. What happened? No idea. I just saw the clip on the ceiling falling.

That was wild. I was like, okay. I loved his shirt though. But they're so into antics that I'm like, did you set that up? But also that's a hard thing to set up. Like a piece of like drywall fall. But it was perfectly timed too. I know. She like just started her sentence and then it fell. I don't know. Yeah. That would be wild. I need to reach out for a statement. Okay. What is the podcast? Emergency Intercom. Emergency Intercom.

Are we down on Justin or should we move on? We still like him. You spilled the tea about it. I'm like, okay. You set me right because I was like, wow, Selena, you should have posted that. Oh, really? You pulled me back. Wow, that's never happened. I don't think I've ever been on the positive side of the woke one.

just feel bad in those situations people are so annoying oh my god you know it's just like i guess you you have that perspective though because you've been there where it's like you especially you because you're also like aren't aware of like a lot of things you know like literally never never think about it people like to tell me i think about stuff for me i was just like okay whatever you

Usually I'm like, whatever you want to think. And they're on such a grand scale of it. But it's like, damn, it's been so long. Like this guy's married with a baby. She's like has a TV show, Billionaire. I was like, no one cares. Yeah. People just are bored with their lives, I think. He clocked the T. I'm bored with my life. That's why I have this podcast. We just be doing it. I'm just kidding. I'm not. I love my life, actually.

Boring is not the word. What is the word I keep trying to get? Again, it's drama free. Thank you. Drama free. Drama free. Well, I keep calling it boring. God, people are going to be like, wow, she's so ungrateful. I love my drama free life. That's what it is. Stress free. I guess what I'm saying to all the people who have boring lives, I don't mean as an insult. It's like, yeah, like sometimes your life is just drama free and that's great. And it's like nice to hear other people's drama. That's why I do love...

Like other people's drama. You know what I mean? Like the day porn always. Like to me, the Justin wasn't even drama. I was just like, I didn't know about that, but I was just like, God, people just come up with anything. What do I conspiracize about? I don't know. I don't, I guess. I used to. Everyone copying you, which maybe not a conspiracy. Everyone copies me. The Challengers copying me. I don't know if they call it the Challengers, but it's just Challengers. It's just Challengers?

I always love when I see you tweet about it or put it in your Instagram story. I love the challengers. Is this called challengers? It's just challengers. Oh, that's horrible. What? Is it plural or singular? It's plural. Challengers. That's weird because isn't it just a challenger game? Isn't it just like challenger? I guess they're the challengers at the challenger game. We gotta learn tennis though. Okay, I'm down. I don't know.

I have Jax Taylor, too. Who the fuck cares about Jax Taylor? Why should I write him down? I don't know. Do you know him? He's from Vanderpump Rules. I know him. I kind of care less about Vanderpump Rules. Same. I know... If I saw him, I would know him, but I don't know anything, like, really about him except he's...

He's definitely like over – he had a girlfriend on the show or wife maybe. Maybe a wife with a kid. She said they haven't had sex in 15 months and he just recently said that like marriage should be a contract that after 10 years you either re-up or you can walk away. Oh my god. Yeah. He's giving me ick. All of them do. Tom Sandoval too. But also Ariana. Okay. I don't know about any of these people but I see it on TikTok and like Tom Sandoval cheated – like he told his girlfriend – what's her name?

Stass? Is there a Stassie on the show? There was a Stassie on the show. A long time ago, right? That's what the clip I saw. So it was like a long time ago. He's like, I made out with Ariana in the pool at the Golden Nugget. So he was like telling her basically he cheated on her. And then all the comments were like, oh, Ariana like lost him. How he got him or something because basically he like cheated on her. And she's like, the Golden Nugget, that's like the lowest you can go. He's like, I like that spot or whatever. And I'm like, first of all, the show looks so stupid. But second of all, like all the guys on there are just so dumb. Ariana and Tom accused Jax and Brittany of copying them because they bought a house together.

After they bought a house. Anyways, so I don't know who this Jax is, but apparently Brittany and them haven't had sex because he says she's like not attracted to her anymore because she's like gained some weight or something. Do you know them? They're on the new show called The Valley, I think. Yeah, I've seen clips of it. I saw another clip where Jax like...

They have like a housewarming party or something and he like pants one of his friends but he wasn't wearing underwear and there were kids at the party. So his like schlong just comes out. Everyone was like, Jax, why the hell did you do that? And then the girlfriend of that guy started crying and then he was making fun of the girl for crying but it's like you just exposed him to kids. It was like, of course it's going to be – Yeah, literally a crime. Literally, what are you doing? Even if you had underwear on, that's like ick. So everything I've seen has not been great about.

Yeah. So I guess he's over this marriage and says he wants it. I don't even know why I wrote that down. I literally couldn't care less. Vanderpump rules. It's like the pregnancy. It's great. I love it. But also like, you know. Yeah. I'm not a big pump rules. The Valley, I guess. The Valley sounds even worse. Like who wants to watch a show about the Valley? No offense. I love it. We live in the Valley. It's cheap. It's great. But also like.

No one wants to watch that show. No. Especially like I don't care about their version of the valley. You know what I mean? No. They're literally the valley. They're literally like the track homes. Which is fine. But it's also like basic. I guess. Boring. Drama free. I think their restaurant is in North Hollywood I think.

Wait, which one? Jack's opened a bar or something. Man, they all open restaurants because of Tom Tom. Yeah. Tom Tom. We should take, oh my God, Malibu. One of Coco Mellon's friends is Tom Tom and she always loves Tom Tom. She's like, Tom Tom. And that's the name of Tom Sandoval's restaurant. Oh my God, we should go to Tom Tom. I love that you just shat on all of the Pumperol's people and now it's like, oh, let's go to Tom Tom. I know.

Also me like being like I don't know anything about them Also they have a Tom Tom restaurant I'm a baby reindeer But there was There was in Koreatown Tom Tom for a long time There was like a chain of Korean Oh Like donut places Oh Well this is in West Hollywood Is this still there you think? Oh for sure yeah But the pump one isn't

No. They kept trying to raise the rent there and then it became like too expensive. Like not worth it. They got rid of their lobster pasta and it was so good. I remember taking Moses there like after quarantine. I was like, oh, I have the lobster pasta. Like actually, we don't have that anymore. I was like, mm.

And that's how you knew it was over. They got canceled. They got canceled. They were so cute. I love that little area of West Hollywood. It was so cute at the time. We should do a Patreon going to West Hollywood, but during the day. Yes. Like at noon or something like that. That'd be so fun. Our Patreon soon is going to become like a Mr. Beast challenge. I'm down, yeah. We should put Oscar in a room for 100 hours and see what happens. Yeah. We should put you in West Hollywood for 100 hours. That's the challenge. Ooh, yeah. That'd be fun. Have you been? We never went out, did we? No, but I used to live in Beverly Hills right next...

Did you ever go out? Yeah, I used to go eat there. You'd be popular in West Hollywood for sure. He's the honor daddy. Yeah. I think that would be the guy. Let's see how many guys hit on Moses. Do you think guys do? Right. But then what if they don't? You know what I mean? Do guys feel bad then? They would for sure though. Really? That'd be fun. We got to –

What kind of outfit do we put him in? No, that's what I'm saying. We're not doing that for Patreon. That's not the challenges we're looking for for Patreon. I like that one. But I always feel like guys... Let's ping pop Moses in Hollywood. But that's a compliment because there's so many guys that go out and they don't get hit on and then they get like all sad like that no gay guys like hit on them or anything like that. You know what I mean? No, they don't because that's not what I'm looking for so it doesn't make me sad. Babe, it's just the funness of it. Like I would love to go to West Highlands and see if people hit on me. That's so much fun. You know what I mean? No.

West Hollywood's wild because everyone's just like looking for someone you know what I mean so I feel like that's kind of the vibe and everyone's stealing phones though you gotta be careful really everyone who goes out in West Hollywood they always are like sorry I lost my phone I was out in West Hollywood last night damn they steal it your phone gets stolen and you get roofied like that's what's happening nowadays oh jeez okay oh my gosh New York they're getting punched in the face here you're getting roofied I think I'd rather get roofied than punched in the face but like

Safely roofied. Like not get taken advantage of. Yeah. Yeah. Because Steve Buscemi just got punched in the face. Did you see that in New York? Yeah. Yeah. I guess Rick Moranis did too back in 2020. He was like, he got randomly punched by a guy. What is going on in New York? I don't know. It kind of scares me. I want to go to New York, but also I'm like, I'm not going to be walking anywhere. I'm in New York right now. I hope he's okay. I hope he doesn't get punched. I don't think anyone's punching him, but you never know. Some of those people are on something. They might just. It's scary. I know. It's kind of wild. How do you know he's in New York? Because I follow him.

I love that. Yeah. Big reindeer. What else was he up to? He squatted a new weight. Oh, wow. I want to squat. What do you squat? 4'9", 1'8". 220? Damn. He did like 280 or something. Oh, he can't squat you. Yeah, but he's a bigger guy. Like he's taller. He's more muscular. But I'm right there. I'm like. Yeah, you're close. Yeah, I'm close. I'm close. You're close to it. I can see it. He's everywhere. Damn. Hasan alert. Hasan watch out.

I guess that's a good segue. More straight man news. What are your straight men? I like talking about straight guys because they're never in drama and I like when there's drama. I like when the boys are fighting. I love talking about straight guys. Yeah, because I always feel like when girls are fighting, I'm like, oh no, but when boys are fighting, it's like, okay. I was like, whatever, yeah. Yeah. Dayporner and call daddy. That was wild. You watched it? I saw, again, clips, but I loved Alex going for it. I'm like, work. Yeah. I know. Okay, so are they friends or no?

I don't know. I get, she was really aggressive in their interview questions. And she's usually such a chill interviewer. So it was fun to see her like feisty and actually going there. She's definitely feisty. And he was her former boss, right? He created Call Her Daddy with her, I guess. Yeah, he was definitely feisty. I love the pressuring of it all. But like, okay, here's the thing. Because I was like, oh, I love this. Like, go for it. Because I think like,

First and foremost, I do think it's absolutely weird that a 47-year-old and a 25-year-old are dating. That's weird. We've all talked about that. You get it. We always say 25 is the age where their brain starts to mature. Okay, whatever. So I do think it's weird. Just for the record, I think that's weird. And I think his defense of it is weird. He's like, I only hang out with young people or I'm only around young people, so that's who I get. Okay, okay. It's good he's not working in a kindergarten. Well, okay, there's that. I wish I had the shade button for that. I know, the shade button.

Right. It's like, okay, that's kind of a weird excuse. Yeah, the whole thing is good. But then I kind of felt bad a little bit because then I was like, well, not public, right? Like she's not posting about him and he's not posting about her. Look, and also too, if you're embarrassed by someone's age, which he clearly was multiple times on Call Her Daddy, he was embarrassed because he didn't want to talk about the age. And then even on BFF's podcast,

Josh was like, isn't she 24? He's like, you're way off, even though she's 25. So it's also like, what? And he's like, why are you embarrassed if you, whatever. And then he had to like compare it to Bradley Cooper. Oh, how old is Gigi Hadid? And they're like, she's like 29. He's like, oh, and she's not that old, whatever. So he's like trying to justify it. So I could tell he might be like a little bit embarrassed by it maybe. But also it's like, well, they're not really public. So I kind of then felt a little bad for him, right? No. Really? Yeah.

But 25 is not a baby. It's definitely not. I think it's weird. I still think you have nothing in common. But it's like she's not a 19 year old. She's not a 20 year old. Yeah. But I mean, if that's what you're going to date and he is a public figure. So and he also clocks everyone else's tea. So your tea is going to get clocked too. You kind of set yourself up for that. Yeah, I guess. I don't know. But does he ever call on people like private life?

I don't know. He was for sure saying like, look at the thing with Brooke when he like blindsided Brooke and all of a sudden he calls her and is going after her about this, that, and the third. Wait, tell me. I forgot. I kind of forgot, honestly. I forget the actual details. I remember being upset about it. Okay. No, me too. I'm not on his side, by the way. I do think it's absolutely disgusting. I don't want people to think that. But then I was like, kind of like, wow, people are really like kind of going in and like, I don't know. But she told him because he brought her with him to the interview.

She's like, but she's here. So it's not like she's in private and she never met her. But they don't take pictures together. They don't post. She met her. She saw her. I get that part. But it's also like they're not on camera. She's not sitting next to him. Like him and Silvana was always like on TikTok together. You know, they're public. They're not in derby photos together. You know what I mean? Like it's just like they're not public. I think what she was trying to tell him that don't bring her here if you don't want to talk about her. That's what she was alluding to. Like you brought her here. I'm going to talk about her. I'm like a journalist.

I don't know. Just because so much of the interview was about it. I loved it. I was with everyone else too. I was kind of like, oh my gosh, yes. Because also, ew. Because she was kind of like, what the heck? Like, this is so weird. But then I was kind of like, oh, I don't know. I don't know why. Also, I think Dave is like – he has like really creepy stuff in the past or whatever. And he does ambush people. He ambushed like O'Malley and stuff. I don't know. I kind of feel bad.

just feel like you're keeping someone private like there's people in our lives that are private that it's like okay if I brought someone that's private with us somewhere like you know your mom my brother whatever it's like I wouldn't want them talking about them you know what I mean I don't know oh that's what it was he when he ambushed book it was like something about like Matt Rive how like she he was basically trying to make her feel bad about like the Matt Rive thing because it was like right after yeah yeah he's an asshole but also they're two public figures you know what I mean like

I'm totally on Dave's side, but I kind of felt bad. I think she, they call her that. She basically did the opposite of Matt Rife. She was like, I'm going all in. I'm the girl's girl. I'm on the girl's side. And even though he's my ex-boss friend. But you're not on the girl's side. I'm going to advocate for the girls. If the girl's private, that's not really. She's not criticizing the girl. She's criticizing him. And she's on the girl's side of like young women. This guy, this is not.

Okay. Right. Right, right, right. T. T. T period T. Yeah, I don't know. I thought it was like a little harsh, but what else was about the important? There was something else I had to say. There was another one. You guys are clocking me. I got it. You guys are going to...

Oh, when he said he was, he's like, I would be open to older. You know, like if they're 35, that'd be great. I'm like, you're 47. 35 shouldn't be the threshold of the old age. Like that's wild. Maybe 45. That's where you start going. That's crazy. That's wild to me. I'm like, okay, weird. And he's still married. Is he really? Yes. So probably the reason. That's the weird one.

Yeah, he's still legally married. I guess he said he was too rich and the lawyer denied the divorce because he has too much money. The judge. The judge. Which never happened. The judge never tells you don't get divorced. Really? I don't think that's a real thing because Jeff Bezos got divorced. I'm sure he has more money than Dave Portnoy. Wow.

It makes sense. It makes sense financially if he has like a net worth and he doesn't want to suddenly be half of that. That makes sense. I think he's just paying her so well that she, I don't know, maybe she's such a good person. She doesn't care about money, but they're still married. That's weird. Oh, right. She doesn't care, but the courts would make them split 50% or something like that. I was like, okay. Um,

So they're just going to be married forever? Yeah, they'll be married forever. So maybe that's why he does. I guess he doesn't care about getting married. But then he said with Savannah. Yeah, go ahead. I think it's an excuse for him not to get married again because he says, I'm married. Sorry, I can't marry you. Like, I think it's just a perfect fixed excuse that he can never get married again. Yeah, he definitely just doesn't want to be. Because I think it's interesting to get married again.

Yeah, that's probably true. But also like these young girls, like now we're going to go on the Dave hate train, okay, for all those who think I was not trying to defend him. I did feel bad from there. But then I was just kind of like, okay, he said he broke up or I think alluded to his breakup with Savannah because like he don't want to like waste her youth. But it's also like you're literally doing that to this person. And a lot of times people at 24 will be like, I don't want kids or 25. But like later on, like 30, they might want kids. So you're kind of like –

kind of still wasting it. I don't know. I think his co-host, was it Brianna or was it Alex Cooper, who's like, these girls, oh, your money. Do you think these girls are with you just for their money? I must have been, call her daddy, asked him that. And he's like, no, I don't think they're with me just for money. But I don't know. I kind of think so. You know, when you're that young, it's like. Money makes you hotter, I think, for sure. Yeah. I'm sure that's a part of it. Or maybe he just has a great personality and we don't see it.

I see it. I'm a little bit of a dating apologist. No, I know what you mean. I know what you mean. No, no. I don't hate him. I don't hate him at all. I think he has a charm to him. He has definitely a charm. He built an amazing business. He's a good guy other than his dating life. Is it my misogyny? No, I think it's disgusting. I think it's so creepy. And I'm sorry if you're 47 dating 25-year-old. That's weird and creepy. And I think you're stealing their youth for sure.

But like be realistic. Like it probably is like your money and the lifestyles you bought him. He said he bought like his ex-girlfriend a G-Wagon and it's like, yeah, that's like makes you more attractive. Like they might like you. At 25, I would date for a G-Wagon for sure. For sure, yeah. A Cybertruck? Yeah, I would date. Absolutely. Call Elon.

Absolutely. Yeah. Well, you know what? It is – we had this discussion yesterday because even grosser is Anthony Kiedis. Is that his name? No. Who's the guy from Our Hatchet of Peppers? Anthony Kiedis. He's 60 years old. He has a 19-year-old girlfriend. And I'm just like – I was asking Moses because I was like – I literally was like –

like those guys, especially at 60. 47, okay, Dave's like, I think he's attractive, right? 47, okay, yeah, you can still be attracted to that. 50, okay, maybe. 60, I'm sorry, I've been with a lot of 60-year-olds and it's like their skin is just...

It's sandpaper. It's not cute to touch. It's, you know, that's why you grow old with someone or date someone your age who also has awful skin. Like I'm going to have awful skin. I probably have awful skin now, but it's like, it's, it's not, it's not cute. Like 19 year olds are not wanting that on their body. Like they just don't. And I know that. I just know that there's no 19 year old that is like, that is so hot. If you were broke and we were living in one apartment, bedroom apartment, like that's what I want. Absolutely not. But these guys are like, aren't they embarrassed? Like, aren't, isn't he embarrassed? And I was like,

I don't think they are. I think they think they're, like, rock stars and they're, like, they can't be touched. But it's, like, just like the Harvey Weinstein's. There's all the other one with the Kimora Lee Simmons doctor. Like, they're, like, actually, like, disgusting. I think it's the generational thing, like, actually. Because I think now we see those relationships and, like, look at them, like, oh, that guy is, like, such a creep. But generationally, like...

For them, like the – I forgot what that generation – Boomers? I don't know. Yeah, boomer. I think you're right. I think you're right. Like I think it's cooler. Like back in the day when like the older guy was the young girl, I was like, wow, look at that guy. He swung that girl. You know what I mean? Yeah. I think it's still that mentality. But I feel like the rest of society is like, ew. I mean that's so ew. It's one thing to think their daughter is like –

Dave Horner's girlfriend looks so young. Basically, where everyone saw them was at the Celtics game or some game where they were behind the reporters. Did you see that? Yes. I remember that. That wasn't usually his tickets and they moved in there and then they moved again, whatever. And she did look like... She looked younger than 25. She did look literally like 18 years old. She looked so young. So I think that alone should be a little bit if you think that your daughter is weird. But Anthony Kiedis with...

the 19 year old I was like that's could be his granddaughter like that's what's crazy and I think he does have a story about maybe Cher when she was like 20 was his babysitter when he was like 14 and did they did they hooked up or something so he might have like a little bit of that too but I don't know these people I just don't know how they're not embarrassed I don't know it's again it's not like JLo 50 with the 24 year old dancer it's like you know she still looked good at the time Dave too he's like fit

Was it 60? I don't know. That's like too wild for me. Or the one who had the baby with Al Pacino. She was like 30 and he was like 80. And I'm like, there's just no way. She's like, he's so hot. As someone who loves like old actors and older things, there's just no way. I know it's one thing to look at them and be like, they're hot. Like Robert De Niro still looks good. But it's another thing to have a 70-year-old on your body at like 20. It's like disgusting for a 20-year-old. And I'm just saying that as a 20-year-old. But like that's why you grow old together. That's why you date. When you get older, you date older persons. My body will be disgusting and whatever. But it's just like –

I don't know. They just should be so embarrassed. I don't get it. Some senior citizens just have no shame. They have no shame. It's for real though. They're just like, I'm going to just keep dating these young girls. But like what do they think? Like when they're going to dinner with these people, like what do they think? It's actually crazy. I really just don't think they –

Think about it, to be honest. This is why we stand Keanu Reeves. They don't think about it. The only thing they think is like, I'm a rock star. Everyone here loves me. Everyone wants to see me, be with me, have sex with me. They don't. They don't. That's all they think. Just because you're a rock star doesn't mean you have a rock star penis. That stuff does not go all night long. Ever. It's wild.

I don't know. I don't get it. I just love when there's like age appropriate relationships. You know what I mean? Yeah. And it's like not to say whatever. I mean, we're like 11 years apart. You know what I mean? There is like that's why we said 35 and 47. I was just like, that's your cap. I'm like, that should be like this is pretty young still. You know what I mean? Like that's just crazy. And yeah, the older you get, whatever. But I don't know. I'm sorry. Like that's just that's just weird. Yeah.

more power to you and yeah i guess on that note too like the girl it's on it's definitely not the girl's like issue or problem but i just have a you know i don't know the whole thing seems weird and i i guess maybe i feel bad for the girl right because she's getting exposed for this right now exposed but you're just like thinking there's something wrong with your relationship and i mean there is something wrong with it i don't know so in that in that sense they might be helping her to see it in a different point but maybe there's nothing wrong with it you guys tell me i don't know i'm literally like

My wig is squeezing my head. So I'm not really sure. Am I wrong? Am I like that? You know what I mean? Is it wrong? You guys tell us. No, I get your perspective where it's like you don't – like you're hoping that the 25-year-old girl, right? That one? Yeah. Yeah, that she doesn't feel like uncomfortable or she wasn't the one to be made embarrassed because of that interview. I get that perspective. Yeah.

But I guess it's a little bit different because she wasn't like – it's not like she was sitting there next to him, you know? So she wasn't like directly in the line of fire and it was mostly like questioning Dave and his like dating history and his track record in general, you know? Totally. Like I love when she's like –

why are you attracted to young girls? Like, I don't know if I'm attracted. That's just what I'm around to. I'm like, no, that's what you're attracted to. Like, you like young girls. And that's a legit question. Like, why? Why? There is something maybe like a little wrong with you. Why aren't you attracted to people your own age? And don't get me that. That's just what I'm around. And I've heard that before from people. It's like, I'm just around young people. That's what it is. It's like, no. But what about the actual relationship? Do you think 47 and 25 is too much? Um, yeah. Like, I couldn't, like, if I was 25, I couldn't imagine myself with like a 47 year old. Just because even like,

I don't know. Like, I don't really relate to, like, anyone middle-aged. You know what I mean? Like, I just – I don't relate to middle-aged people. I don't relate to middle-aged people. Your skin is sagging. Like, when I – I remember being on, like, the dating apps, like –

in my 20s and stuff and then like especially Grindr you see like the faceless profiles and then sometimes some of the senior citizens have like a good body you know but then like you click and then you can see like the hands and they have liver spots and stuff and you're like oh no for sure okay yeah when I was like 21 to like 24 I dated someone that I was like obsessed with because he was like an actor I was

obsessed with. He was like in his 50s or something like that. And it's like, yeah, you are kind of like blinded because you're like, you love that person and like what they put on camera or something. You know what I mean? This guy had no money, so it wasn't all the money. You know what I mean? He was definitely broke. But it was just like, oh, I see this, like, you know, the movie star and all stuff like that. But when it came down to the physicality of it, like in the time I was thinking like, well, I think of him as like a movie star or whatever, so it's fine. But I do remember being like

a little grossed out. You know what I mean? Like a little bit, right? Like everything is just a little bit more saggy and you're just like not used to it as a 21 year old. You know what I mean? So it's just like,

I guess looking back at that perspective and this person I really thought I was like in love with that. I was like, I want to have a baby. I want to be married. But I do remember being a little bit like, oh man, like I'm going to have to be touched by this person. Even though I was like obsessed with him. I don't know. It's like such a weird, it's such a weird thing. So it's like, yes, you can be in love. You can be attracted. Cause I also thought the guy was really cute, but there was that weird 50 year old on my 21 year old body that you're just like,

even when I was 18. The guy that was 80 years old that I went out with, I mean, we never got to that level, but even him just touching my hand, I just was like, oh, it's scary. So I don't know. In general, I guess my advice is older men, they're not really attracted to your body. They don't really want to have sex with you probably, but maybe they will because they're manipulated or they're blinded by the money and the lifestyle or the fame in my case. Mine was always if they were famous. I was like, maybe I'll go on a red carpet. I guess I had friends...

that were really into older gentlemen. I always knew like my friend would show like my coworker in 2019 would like show me and we worked in like an office building. And then there was one guy, he was saying like a couple of floors above us or whatever. And he was like an older gentleman, like probably mid fifties, maybe like gray hair or whatever. And my friend was what? Like maybe like 26, 27 at the time. And he was into it.

And I was like, wow, you're into like an older gentleman. I guess there could be some allure there for sure. Like he found an older gentleman hot, I guess. Did he talk about the sex though? No, I don't even think they got to the sex. I think that makes a whole difference because I've had a lot of older guys attractive. But when it comes to like, again, having the skin, everything in, everything, it's like –

a whole different world. At least Dave is at least like attractive. So that helps. Who? Dave, I guess. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. But that's what I'm saying. With him in this case, the reason she's saying that is because he already said what his interest is. No kids, no marriage. Yeah. And then you have this young girl and you feel like I was in love with somebody. I wanted to have kids. I wanted to have married. Like she's not going to get those things. Or you think you could change someone. They'll be the one to fall in love with you. That illusion of the ego. Like I'm the one. I'm going to do it. I'm like, no, you're not. And it's.

Right. 47. You got to learn the hard way, though, girl. I know. Yeah. I mean, 47. 47, you can still be young. You don't have the sandpaper skin yet. But 60. I hope it's that right guy. I'm just saying the wrong person thing. But 60. Yeah. Fact check that. I'm pretty sure it is. 60, the skin is sandpaper. That's just what it is. And it's OK. It's fine. We all have to get there.

But yeah, I don't know. I guess he's doing it while he's still here. You're right, yeah. Okay, thank God. I was like, I'm just like accusing someone else of it because there's another guy I get mixed up. The guy from Foo Fighters looks like Anthony Kiedis to me too. I don't know his name, but he always looks like him. He went after the interview to his own podcast and said it went horribly. Yeah, before it came out. And I was surprised because usually he stands his ground. He's very articulate. He's very, that's why I like him. Like he knows how to, you know, defend.

be confronted and confront back and all that. Yeah, respect him for answering. But this time, yeah, he didn't cut anything out. He answered all the questions, but he himself said it didn't go well. Like for 30% of the interview, I was asked about my current relationship. I was like, yeah, because people... I love that Alex got him shook like that. That's iconic. She was aggressive. But I mean, I live for it too. I'm not even whatever. I kind of live for that. I love when someone can just go on the attack mode like that. But yeah, I wonder like, do you think all podcasts like,

I guess some don't, right? You sign a little agreement before you start filming. So, like, if they can just put in whatever they want. Do you think everyone gives their guests, like, grace to, like, edit out stuff they don't want in there? I don't know. I think for the most part... I mean, from, like, a press perspective, it's very much like after an interview, like, if someone says...

so like if um because you know in the interview the celebrity is kind of just talking and saying whatever but after it wraps the publicist will be the one to come to you and be like actually please make sure you don't include this and you respect it because like say if it's an interview with like sabrina carpenter and she says something that the publicist doesn't want out there it's like oh well if i want to interview sabrina carpenter again then i have to listen to that and not use it you know so so yeah they give you that's true you keep my stuff out the one i'm like i don't want something they're like okay cool

The only one that didn't was Rolling Stone. They just had to put like this person decided not to comment. Actually, there was another magazine that said they couldn't remove something. I think it depends on especially like the publication. Like if it's more of like a super serious like the Entertainment Tonight one was very like you showing all your bedazzled shit.

in the house you know it wasn't like an expose or anything like that yeah that's true because i was like it's so odd that like he wouldn't but i said i respect that he didn't ask for it to be cut yeah well i guess there'd be no interview right yeah he said 30 percent of it 30 of the interview and it will be worse for him i think having her come out and say that he asked to cut some things out i wonder if she would though because that that breaks all of his character you know of like being somebody that doesn't that's blunt and straightforward

Well, someone who should have edited theirs with the Mike Malak Georgie. Do you know these people at all? Do you care about this, the impulsive people or no? Did you watch it? You care? You don't know anything about them? I read about it. The Celsius thing.

Oh, well, there's so much more than this. I'm so invested. I don't know why. We used to watch Impulsive all the time when we would like drive during quarantine. We'd always like watch like when we would do far distance. We used to always watch Impulsive. So I don't know. I'm like weirdly invested in the weird way. Did you watch George's podcast? Do you know George? No. I saw a clip I think in the article. Oh my God. So you haven't seen any clips of it on TikTok either? No. My whole TikTok is this.

George Janko podcast. I guess he was on Impulsive. I guess he was a Viner. Now he's like really, is he, would you consider him right wing or just Christian? He's just like ultra hardcore Christian or? Not hardcore. Anything I would just say is conservative and talks about his Christianity. He talks about his religion. He has like, what's the girl's name from Daily Wire? Candace Owens. Candace Owens, Jordan Peterson. He has like all those people on.

So I think he's kind of in that realm or whatever. But he was impulsive co-host for only 15 months. I didn't know that. Only 15 months. But basically he was calling out Logan. There's so much. Oh my God, there was so much. He had Mike Malek on, but they were talking about Logan the whole time, which is kind of weird when Logan's like not there or whatever. But he basically was calling it out saying he made like,

At the lowest time of Impulsive, which he was only on 15 months, he said he was only making like $5,000 a month, but he was paying $10,000 to go fly to Puerto Rico to do the show. So he was like losing money. Oh, but the big thing was is basically he accused Bobby Lee of like sexually harassing him when he was on the show. Basically, Bobby Lee was in front of him and George was behind him and he would like reach back and like grab his penis, I guess, or whatever. And I guess Logan made George apologize to Bobby for it. Well –

Because George left, I guess, at some point he stormed out of the interview and nobody really knew why and they didn't frame it a certain way. They made it seem like it was a joke and whatever. So I think that's part of why he had to apologize to him.

for walking out of the interview. That's why it was. Oh, it was so weird. And Mike was like trying to like defend all of this or whatever. He was saying he made like no money off of it. But then Logan fired back and was like, actually, we gave you a credit card. We paid for your expenses, all that stuff like that. And he did apologize for the Bobby Lee stuff, but he didn't really like apologize. He didn't really like say the full thing, which is crazy. And then George, yeah, the Celsius thing. So then George starts his own podcast, gets a Celsius sponsorship. And Logan's like, you can't be unimpulsive if you're going to take a Celsius sponsorship because that's like our competitor. And then he's like,

And then George fired back on Mother's Day back to Logan and said that, come and talk to me like a real man. Come on my podcast. And I was like, that sounds like it's just for views then. So I don't know. The whole thing, the whole podcast, the George, Mike, Logan thing is like a lot. But what did you see on it? That wasn't George. He said that he had to pay like $10,000 or something to stay on. And yeah, the credit card stuff. Okay, straight guy. I don't know. Like...

It's crazy. Sorry that happened or I'm happy for you, whichever one. Right. Logan said he didn't, that they covered the expenses. And then he did tell you George's salary. He said George made $315,000 in 15 months. Is that a lot? Yes, that's a lot. What is that per month? I don't know. It's a lot. So he kind of came out with it. But George, he then said Logan made $11 million a week. So...

No, but that's what, so that was, there's something that's just not a bit hypocritical, not honest on George's part. Like he would air out, oh, Logan said he made 11 million in a week, which was very specific for a specific week. But he would air out how much money he did and private text messages. But then when they ask him, George, how much did you make on the, because Mike was trying to say, you made money, you made good money. And George was like, well, I don't want to talk about that.

Yeah, trying to make it seem... So there was a lot of... Some things, you know, it broke. There were cracks in his story. Yeah. I don't know George Janko before all this, but he seems like a lot. Yeah. I weirdly am Team Logan, I think. I was. That's what he was saying, too. But then the Bobby Lee, like, sexual harassment thing and then telling him to, like, apologize. And he said they knew and they were, like, covering it up or whatever. So... That's very weird. Yeah. But I would separate that one incident from the general...

Workplace like because because George has so many accusations throwing a lot I would either just focus on that one thing this thing happened. It was really wrong It's really bad and that's all I want to talk about but he was just piling on Yeah, like so many things that had nothing to do so then it waters it down and you're like, okay What is your real complaint here? Well, he also said he worked for a year and a half with no pay which is fine Which is crazy though, but he was only a host for 15 months. So was he only getting paid?

Or he's saying like he worked for a year and a half before becoming a host. Because Mike also said he worked a couple of years without getting paid, which is also wild to me. It's like... Podcast is a strange space, right? Because they were friends, right? Like Tana and Brooke will have friends over on the podcast. Do they pay them? No. No, but if you're a host... Have friends over. So I'm saying like there's a certain like, you know, they're testing the waters. But I understand what Logan said. Logan said, look, I gave you...

The platform, networking with the most interesting people. Definitely, yeah. Like he gave him so many opportunities. And then what do you do with that? You take it and you build something out of that. You don't go back and talk to that person. I mean, David Jobrig's whole world was, I'm just giving you a platform, a networking opportunity. And from here, you take it and use it however you can. Yeah, vlogs I feel are different though. Like podcasts, they were making money online.

Podcast is like also you just pay that I guess it's hard when you're influencers. It's definitely hard, right? Like when me and Colleen started it's like obviously no one's getting paid cuz you're starting but like when me and you like I'm hiring you I'm hiring glam It's not really like influencer cuz like influences clap with each other So I guess you I guess I see what you're saying like what was the extent of the work? He said he had to come four times a month or something to do the podcast. Yeah, he was just a host I think I think he was just the talent

It was, I think, three hours a week. Like three hours. Right. But I think, did Impulsive need George or did George need Impulsive? Yeah. It's weird because like you said with the Vlog Squad, it makes sense to not pay them because they are getting so much promotion. But then maybe they should have been paid. I don't know. First of all, I think they should be paid too. Everyone should be paid. Nobody should work for free ever. I don't think that's how it works with influencers. But that's kind of wrong. But I'm saying that's part of how the industry works.

it's like when i go on cancel i don't expect them to pay me because i'm getting like promotion and stuff like that you know what i mean it's like a promotional thing that's what i was talking about the friends right she has you on you have her on but i think with david too i was making like money so it's like he wouldn't pay me for it i mean that seems i think with like when you collab when people do collaborations you don't pay each other to be in videos it's mutually beneficial but if you're hiring someone that's like an unknown person like you would

pay them like i'm pretty sure shane paid that remember jess about a fuko his co-host like i'm pretty sure he like paid i think he paid drew too because you're like paying people who don't do this for like a living who aren't building like you're not doing social media for a living like it's not like you're when you can now but i'm just saying like you're not like building your own podcast or i don't know it's kind of weird but i think with george they should have paid off

I don't know what you're saying now. - Let me give you a different example. So in the architecture world, you work the first year or two as an intern, you don't get paid. - But they're not interns. He's been a Viner, he's been making social media his career. George was making social media his career before this.

He was. Vine he was making. He had a house. It's not to that scale. All I'm saying is like you can see it as some type of, you know, internship to see if you're a good fit. And if you're a good fit, we'll continue working together. And then they did. They paid him a nice sum of money. That was tough. I don't know. Yeah. I think they should have paid him. Especially Logan, if you're making that much money.

All right. So there was a period of time he wasn't paid, but then he was paid well, right? So if he was a good fit for the podcast, it would have continued. I just think he was never a good fit for the podcast. He was never a good fit for that social circle. Right. And that was the main issue and nothing can change that. So what's he's complaining about that he wasn't fit. It wasn't a good fit. It's nobody's fault. Logan did his best. You're not a good fit. That's it. You can't complain about that. Yeah. Well, I guess he is.

He's got a podcast with Celsius behind him. In the make one, he had all the Celsius right behind him. But then Logan's like, no, I supported him. He went to do his own podcast. I always supported him doing his own podcast at the same time as doing Impulsive. He was just saying if you're going to support a competitor, you can't be on our podcast until you get the deal done and then you can come back. Very Sugar Bear hair, Halo Beauty coded. Interesting. It kind of is, right? Because he's like, you're funneling our audience. Yeah. Yeah.

That is interesting. Yeah. And also, I don't really equate like Celsius and Prime because I feel like Prime is like a Gatorade kind of. And Celsius is like a stimulant, right? Oh, I don't know. Look at you knowing all the scientific facts behind it, isn't it? Well, I love energy drinks, so that's why. You love a Celsius – well, okay. Well, it's not time. We don't need it. I know. We love liquid death. Not sponsored.

I actually never had Celsius, so I don't know. Like, it has a... It's supposed to give you, like, energy and focus, blah, blah, blah. Oh, and Prime's like a... It's like a... Hydration? Yeah, like a recovery, hydration, maybe like a vitamin kind of beverage, you know, like a vitamin water Gatorade vibe. Oh, so yeah, it's not competition. It's not very similar in my eyes. I also feel like, yeah, does it matter that much if Jordi's promoting Celsius? Like, I don't think it's going to compete with your Prime promotion. Yeah, because like when...

Let me make it gay. So when it came to like Halo Beauty and like Sugar Bear, I was like...

You know, you shouldn't put pressure on like your friend and turn down a financial opportunity just so it's like to benefit you and help you make more money. Like they also need to like make their own money. For sure that. For sure that. Yeah. Oh, and I think he did say that in the text to him. He's like, I'm sorry. Like impulsive is not enough to pay your bills. He's like, but you can come back after you stop. I don't know. Yeah, that is weird. Because I think in Logan's eyes –

George would not have that audience without Impulsive. The audience is coming from Impulsive. And in Logan's Eye, and that's what Mike said too, Impulsive is the main drive of Prime. That is, the show exists to basically promote Prime. So then you take a different show, like a sub-show, and now it's promoting something else.

That's not part of the plan. Even Prime would be like, no, you can't do that. I guess, yeah. It would be like if Harry Jowsey was promoting Just Trish or something. Like he's under the Caller Daddy umbrella. Okay. I'm trying to relate a sub word to us. I don't know about that one. Maybe if you started your own podcast and you – Under the Just Trish network and promoted – You had Oscar emoji stickers or Trish emoji stickers. Be like, here. Someone at Etsy was trying to do that. I was like, okay. Yeah.

I had my own, like, bling cups or something, I guess. Right. I guess, like, to me, if I was on Logan's scale, I just, like, wouldn't care. Right? Like, I'm not on Logan's scale. Like, I need the bling cup sales. You know what I mean? So maybe I'd be a little more pressed. But I feel like he doesn't. That's true. Yeah. He has so much money. But also, like, $325,000 for 15 months is, like, also a shit ton of money. I don't really feel bad for anyone because, like, that is so much money. Yeah. And George said that. He's like, I'm grateful for it. But then he was also complaining, like, when it was rock bottom. Right. Right.

you know that's true you're not really grateful because now you're like talking logan when he's not even there i don't know why i'm feeling bad for these guys i don't know i kind of feel bad for logan but also like maybe not well the main thing is they did have a friendship before that like somebody was showing videos of them way back you know just living in an apartment yeah them and some other guy and they're like the good old days kind of thing and they were friends is mike still friends with logan

You wouldn't tell by this interview. That's why I was like. I think so. I think he's still friends. They still do impulsive, don't they? I don't know. I have no idea. I see it once in a while pop up. I'm just like, okay. Mike seems pretty loyal. He seems like he, you know, there's certain people who do feel like they owe some, you know, people their career.

That's good. I think in that sense, like, because Logan was trying to downplay it as like Mike, you know, is his own phenomenon. But I'm like, no, Mike is popular because you're popular, Logan. It's just like the vlog squad. Like you said, the David Dobrik effect. Like people were popular because David was popular. And yeah, they can like parlay it into something. It's great. But it's kind of like the Kendall Jenner. It's like, you know, Kris Jenner set up those meetings. So it's like, yes, Mike might be popular, but it's because of Logan. He got the in with Logan. Yeah. A nepo baby. A nepo baby. Yeah.

Because it's one thing to be an influencer and collaborate and build your way to the top and it's another thing to just kind of slide in on someone's popularity and then getting popular by that, you know? Yeah. You're right. Like – I'm trying –

when all the British YouTubers were collabing with like the Tyler Oakley's or whatever. It's like you take a big YouTuber here with one audience, another YouTuber here with a different audience and then maximize the joint slay, I guess. I love a joint slay. Yeah, with like a random shmandum, it's like, you know, it's not really – you're kind of giving someone a career, I guess. Yeah, which is like great and nice. And if they help you and like whatever, that's great. So I would say if you go on to canceled co-hosts, it would be fine. I'm like –

I'm like, well, I did stardom, but you know. You had your own thing going. I see you as being like a full-time influencer one day. I do see it. I don't think I could do it. I would support it. It's stressful being an influencer, I think. Really? I was thinking about it. For some reason, the Conor France and Daniel Pareda drama, when it was like...

you will never, the internet thinks of you as Joey Costello's boyfriend. You know what? I was like, well, no one can ever come for me because I'm just a normal guy working a nine to five. You know what I mean? You're not normal though. You're not anymore. It's like, no one can come for me. I'm working an honest job, you know? I'm relatable. I can't have like a Haley Bailey because like I actually, I'm just working. Until you get your Tesla truck.

And your house out here, the water slide. Yeah, they're like, I actually have a Tesla truck, so. I have an honest degree. That is the real influencer test. Like once you start getting a car, then people are like, you're not normal. You have a Tesla truck. You're not. Like, you know, you're... I know, it is a weird world, influencer world. I wonder if it's going to be around forever, like celebrity world. Is this just always going to be around now? I read...

I didn't even read the whole article. I just read the headline about how like all the traditional Hollywood now they're starting to like invest more and more in like influencers. Really? Logan Paul and Mr. Beast, whatever, how a lot of them, like the executives at all these studios are going to them now to figure out like,

what to do because like they're all losing money and influencers are making money yeah so i guess we have ideas you're a tv professional i'm tv professional give us your money we'll tell you how to produce we could do a whole network

Like the Tammy Faye Baker Network, just how all just Trish. I already have ideas for it. I would love that. We could build our sets, our studios, have people come in and out. That would be definitely efficient. I mean, with the three of us, we – and Jimmy, we get it done, you know. I know. I kind of think that too. I was like the production is like producing. What is the word? Producing. Producing. Production is producing.

That's what we are over here. We talked about getting headshots in here to put like, you know, headshots on the wall of like you and Moses, Jimmy, me. We could put all our photographers on there, glam. We're going to go to a restaurant and there's all the famous people that have ever been there. But we give a little plaque of what each person does. That's so sweet. Yeah. You'll be like executive producer, Moses. Well, I guess we're all executive producers, but you could be like host, producer, Moses is producer, tech.

What would I be? Just the host? Just Trish. Executive producer. Just need to be Trish. I want to be executive producer like Zendaya. I want to be executive producer. I need to produce a movie. How do I do that? That's a good question. You just need to have enough money. Yeah. Really? Is that all it is? No. Really? Really?

Well, also, like, once you get cast in a movie, like, I feel like it's easy to be like, oh, I want a producing credit on this. Right. Because I feel like everyone just gets producing credits these days. That's what I felt with Mark and Robbie being a producer on Barbecue. I wasn't ever even supposed to be Barbie. I was going to be a producer. I'm like, how does that even happen? Like, what does that mean? Like, no, you had to have been Barbie.

Shout out Jinx Monsoon. She's on the new Doctor Who. Did you see that? That's crazy. Amazing. Like, who's her agent? She was the AA. I want to get that. I know. Jinx is everywhere. She did Chicago. She did Little Shop of Horrors on Broadway. Now she's in Doctor Who. I was just like, that's huge. We got to watch. Finally, I'll get her to watch Doctor Who. I'll watch it for Jinx. I'm a huge fan of the show for many, many years. That was a wild clip. She was good in it. That was wild.

Damn, she's getting everything. I love seeing people like that blow up. Oh, and the freaking Jake Paul, Mike Tyson fight is next week, I think. Delayed? Oh, I thought it was over. It's soon, right? It happened because he's like too old now or something. Oh, we're supposed to interview them in Texas next week. Are you going? Maybe this week. Maybe it's this week. I don't think I'm going. I said I would edit it. That's fine. You should go because you've interviewed Jake before. Oh, yeah. I forgot. For the wedding. Oh, my God. Oh, my God.

Dramageddon is just too on my mind. I forgot to interview Tati too, but that's a whole other story. I want to go watch that too. There's so much lore. Was it before or after Dramageddon? After Dramageddon, pre-exposing Shane and Jeffrey. And she was – her and her husband were giving me some Shane and Jeffrey tea. I completely forgot about it. Where were you? At their house? Yes. I was at their house in the studio where My Sister was filmed.

Wait. We can bleep out the location, but where do they live? They don't even live there anymore. They lived in Encino, but they moved to Washington. Because I thought Jeffrey was going to like – she says this in the Exposing Shane and Jeffrey one, but she thought Jeffrey was going to like pew-pew her, so she moved away to a secret location. It was a whole – I can't wait for you to see it. Oh, my God. I can't wait for you to get to that one. That girl's drama. How is that?

I guess it was talked about, but I'm just like, how did I miss all this? It was everything. She might be the number one drama queen. I mean, of all the dramatics of it all. I mean, like. You're going to die when you see. It's her third video. Oh, my God. We have to work our way up. She really is kind of trish-coated. She's doing three videos about this. It's like, damn. Oh, we're just fan of a year.

And like, isn't her husband like chill? Like maybe don't make a video right now. I know Moses will say that to me sometimes, you know, just like, and it helps sometimes it's like, just wait. Like when the Colleen stuff happened, I was like, want to make a video right away. He's like, just wait, just wait. It took me a while before I made it. I was like, okay, now I got to make a video. And like, you can't stop me. And I remember I took a nap after and I was so scared. I was like, oh my gosh. Cause I was in my drama free era. And then he's like, no, it's okay. People are like, understand. Like, okay, good. But you kind of need someone to like, really, you went a little, cause I do want to make a video after everything. I'm like, I want to make a video now.

He's like, just wait, just wait. I was like, okay. And then after a day, you're like, okay, probably better I didn't. Oh my God. Because she deleted all of them, so obviously she should have waited. She might have left that last one, I think.

oh that because that one was a year later it was in 2020 i think june 2020 which one the shane and jeffrey one the one where she teams up with james oh what is it didn't they get canceled a lot that year for other things too wasn't that like the willow smith thing like yeah so that was the precursor to everything else you're gonna die when you watch it i literally cannot wait isn't that crazy when there's one thing that kind of trips it and then everyone's like actually because it

I feel like I have some tea on people, but it's like, I'm waiting for that moment where people will like understand it more. Right. Because like, if I come on and say something, especially me, like, you know, people are always like, Oh my God, dramatrish. But I'm like, I feel like if there's like one thing that opens it up, I'm like, let me share my story too. Because if it's not that serious, if it was serious, I would just say it. But I'm saying like when there's other things that open it up, it's kind of like, okay, well actually this also happened. Then people are more like willing to hear it. Yeah. You know what I mean? So maybe that, did it work in her favor then? Or were people are. I mean, it,

It did. Yeah. Because it also, that was when the, uh, the mask kind of slipped on Shane. Cause that's when he did that Instagram story. And then he had this like weird tweet about like, he's that one that we saw in the video. Um, it was like him leaving the beauty community, whatever, whatever. Right. Yeah. It was when everything kind of slipped. Not him leaving the beauty community after one year. Yeah. And making one palette. So I'm leaving the beauty community. Um,

So that was – and then that's what made people go digging and looking at his old stuff and that led to Willow Smith and then, yeah. The internet. I can't wait for you to get to it. I can't either. I love it. I loved it. That was so much fun. Our little Patreon days. I wish we had AMC popcorn. I see the doom bucket behind you. I wish we had that right now. That looks so good. Oh my gosh. Who do you think is going to have a baby first? Me, Vanessa Hutchins or Sophia Grange?

I really think yours is going to be first. Hilary Duff had her as May 3rd already, so she beat that. Who else did you say? Sophia. Sophia's really far along too, right? She said nine months, like two weeks ago. Oh, shoot. And then Vanessa Hutchins, I think, was farther along than me. Yeah. She looks pretty. I think either way, Sophia, Vanessa will have a really long delay. I got to do it quicker. Regardless, I think people will find out about yours first. Because of you. Because of you. Yeah.

Because you'll be at the Hot Topics like two days later. Oh, right. They'll kind of know if I'm not doing Hot Topics. It's like, okay. Yes. That's true. I guess people wait, huh? Maybe I should wait. Well, they're like more like, oh, like the baby's privacy, blah, blah, blah. Right, right, right. Me too. It is funny. I actually did tell Moses that. I'm like, maybe we should wait until we come back to Hot Topics to announce we had the baby. Yeah.

But I don't know. I get so excited. I think last time I announced it too early. I mean, we're still like in the hospital. I think next time I'll wait till we get out of the hospital because that's like wild. You know what I mean? People come to the hospital and whatever. But yeah. Yeah. That's a good happy medium, I think. At least when you're home. When you're home and like away. Yeah. Not just having it. Yeah. I guess Spencer. Was he live? I think he was live on Snapchat. Oh, was he? Or maybe TikTok live. Oh.

Oh, I remember Heidi talking about that, I think. Right? But she said maybe that was like the pre-contractions. Like it actually wasn't the actual delivery. Yeah. But they were like open about everything. Like she was talking about like her breast implants. Oh, yeah. She snapchatted them. Spencer tweeted our clip with Slater. We were talking about how we love Heidi. Oh, I love that. And he's like, I love these girls. I love Heidi, too. She wished me Happy Mother's Day. I love being friends with all the cool girls. That's my favorite. Tara wished me Happy Mother's Day. Tara, yummy. Yeah.

I love her. She's so sweet. We text back and forth. I love that you're friends with her. You know. Friends. Not like Tati friends where I'm like don't want anyone else's part. We were talking about that. I was talking about that because even with like Tana and stuff like that I'm like I would never the way Tati like just like shamed James like

I would never – if they went on someone's podcast who I absolutely hated, I wouldn't be like, oh my god, how could you do that? Like it's such a weird, possessive thing. I was thinking that too. It was like – especially like as a 30-year-old, I was thinking like, okay, what would – what can I even relate it to? I'm like, I guess when like Brittany Brosney turned me down, I was sad for like a second. A second. But like I just – I liked the girl. Like I watched her stuff. Like I don't have any ill will towards her. I know. That's the best – I was like – Even – that's what's so crazy. Yeah. It's even when like JoJo was on cancel. I remember people gave Tana so much.

And I was like, because she had to step up. It was like right after, yeah. Yeah, but I was just like, it's fine. Like, I'm not in possession of Tana. Like, it's fine. Like, I don't know. Like, it's so weird. It's like she does this for a living, too. Like, it's just odd. Yeah, I think it's like as a grown person, it's like hard to like really care. I'm like, okay, like, you know. 38 is grown, grown, too. Like, that's older than me right now, which is like I can't even imagine. But it is wild. I don't know.

for James Nicholson I love it this is the drama guy episode I know I know sorry it's on my mind our viewers are like what did Tati do yeah what is happening our thumbnail is Tati and James

Dramageddon. Oh my gosh. We start Dramageddon 3. That'd be wild. More receipts come out. If anyone has receipts and they want to come on Just Trish, let me know if there's more receipts that need to come out. I'm invested in it. As long as it's not my Dramageddon. I'm invested. Jake Paul's. Oh.

Oh, Jake Paul. Anyway, I forgot. You're talking about so many straight people. My head is spinning. I know. This is the straightest episode I think we've ever had. It really is. Wow. Anyway, his tickets go for $2 million for the VIP package. How do you even buy those? Where do you buy $2 million tickets? That's a good question. Where do you buy them? Like, how do you make that charge on, like, your account? That's a better question. Yeah. How do you clear that with your bank? Like, yeah. You know one of those unlimited cards or something? That is crazy. Yeah.

Who makes a $2 million purchase? I guess you'd wire the money or something. It allows fans to meet both fighters sleep in overnight luxury at a penthouse suite and watch the action unfold from first row floor seats.

You get two ringside apron seats, exclusive stadium arrivals, security and escort during the night, a photo with Jake and Mike Tyson. Together? Yeah, in the locker room. Okay. I love that. Gloves signed by both fighters, a private green room with open bar, a picture in the ring after the fight. Wow. Two-night luxury accommodation for 10 guests and VIP lounge access and seating. I'm doing it.

I'm doing it. There's like 10 guests. Usually like 10 people team up together. Yeah, it's only 200,000. I'm so bad at math. What is it? 100,000 each? 200,000 each. I think 200,000. Yeah, 200,000. See, I was quick with it the first time. Everyone go to patreon.com. Together. Yes, we want to go. There's three of us. We can bring seven of our producers with us. Do you think Tiana gets like free tickets as like his ex-wife? That's a good question. I don't think they talk like that. I don't think so either. But

I don't know. Do they? That is weird. How can you be so close with someone and then not talk to them anymore? They must talk, right? A little, right? Here and there? I don't know, actually. DMs? I have no idea. I feel like she might have been in love with him maybe more so. I think so, too. It sounds kind of like that. We never go into depth. This is what you see on the podcast, but I feel like she might have been. And reexamining...

the past like content that they were making too it sounded like she was into it yeah yeah she's she has a lore for sure yeah a lot of lore she really does like gosh she's been kind of around I forget how young she is because she's just been around like I feel like she's been around as long as I have and like it's so crazy Joey too we looked at his page I was like telling Moses I'm like he's kind of been around a long time I went to his page yeah like 13 years ago his first video yeah and then he had the channel before that

What was that? Remember Winter Spring? Oh, yeah. Wasn't his girl, Brittany? He had a girl named Brittany on there. Yes, he also had a Brittany. Yeah. I can't remember. She was like an actor later on. I remember we used to watch her casting audition tapes. Oh, wow. And she's lesbian now. Is she out? Yes. Okay. I remember people saying that, but I'm like, okay, is she or are they just, okay. 13 years ago. Yeah. We love it. We love, my first video was 17 years ago. 18 almost. What was your first video called?

Right now it's called Trisha Paytas' first video. I changed the title. Because I looked the other day and I was like, oh, yeah, I retitled it because people searched for it. So I think it was originally called like, I don't know, I'm wrapping Ice Ice Baby or something. So maybe it's like just me wrapping. I don't really know why I did it. I guess to hear my voice. I don't know. I'm not sure. But it is crazy to see that. You're like, oh, my God, I was 18. Like that's so weird like how long ago that was.

And how long this has been, like how I've actually like made a living for so long. That's amazing. Oh my God. It is crazy. Yeah. Because influencer life can be short for sure. People either burn out, you know, or just over it. Like the Dolan twins are just like, but it's crazy. Where are the Dolan twins? I don't know. Maybe they just made a lot of money and invested wisely. And like Cameron Dallas. You know Cameron Dallas? Yes. Of course he was in Mean Girls on Broadway. Oh yeah. I forgot about him.

What are those guys? Like, they were, like, the hottest ones for so long. It is crazy. I guess that's, like, when you're just hot, you know? They're like, we made enough. We can just go be hot on our own. Yeah. And it's also, like, do people lose interest if we're just hot? It's like, okay, we can only look at someone hot for so long. Like a Harry Jowsey. I'm like, how long will you be just relevant? It is interesting to think about. But even, like, the D'Amelio stuff, it's like they –

even though they're not as popular as they were, they kind of maintain relevancy, right? They have a TV show. They have shoes. They're like doing stuff. It's kind of like Asin Ray too. It's like you don't hear about them. But there's so many influencers you don't hear about that have like 100,000 followers that like have money and they build houses and stuff. You know what I mean? And I'm always like – TikTok especially. There's so many TikTokers who like buy houses, you know, build new. And I'm like, how are they making money? Like it's so weird. I guess just a lot of brand deals. Or Hailey Bailey. Not to go back to her, but I'm like, how does she have $17,000 rent? Like that's crazy. I guess brand deals, but –

She doesn't have that many. Yeah. I mean – Well, Chris Olsen is getting paid. Yeah. He has a brand. He's everywhere. Well, Hailey Bailey is also like at every event too, right? I think she gets paid for it all. I think. Okay. Maybe. Maybe they're getting banked. All I know is like my biggest brand is like maybe $10,000. So it's always like crazy to me that like these people could be getting like $100,000 for a brand deal. Yeah. So maybe, yeah. It is interesting because at least YouTube like – I mean it differs but you can obviously make more from a YouTube video than a TikTok. So –

Yeah, I don't know. TikTok, I've never made money, like, really, really, really. So even, like, the ones I do do, like, cash-in, it's, like, not that much. Like, it's just not. So there's no way I could be having $70,000 in rent. We just had ET. We just started getting monetized or whatever with their program. Oh. And then it sent the notification, and it was, like, your monthly was –

deposit was $72.50. Oh, yeah. I was like, damn, we have some like hits in there for $72. But even mine too, sometimes I get like 15 million on like a, like a tavern one and it's still only be like set like 6,000 for the, not only, but it's like 6,000 for the month. When that one person's like, I make $4,000 for one TikTok, I was like, well, damn, mine's like, mine's if one goes viral, maybe I'll get 6,000. Definitely not that anymore. It's definitely gone way down, like maybe 2,000 or something like that. Again, not bad, but I'm not paying $17,000 in rent with it. You know what I mean? So,

Yeah, it is kind of – TikTok to me has always been the lowest paying with sponsors and everything. But maybe they have really good agents. Yeah. Or managers. I don't know. Yeah. And like Haley Bailey is very like marketable. I like – because she used to be a model, right? So I imagine like when she gets ready for these like events, whatever, it's like, okay, like I'm sure a makeup company wants to be like, oh, use this foundation when you're getting ready. Something like that. Probably. Right? I actually don't know the exact – we should have her on –

I'm not being too mean to Haley Bailey. I like hate when I call people out for cancellations because it's like never fun but also it's like she's just trending all over my page. Like her whole thing was her in the flower hat and dress and I was just like okay let's talk about it but I never want to be mean because it is like you know not fun. But you've been there. That's what I'm saying. I feel like I can relate. You know what I mean? You at least come from a space where it's like yeah you've experienced that similar thing. I'm like the Kelly Osbourne of the podcast world just talking a little too much but it comes from a good place. Well intentioned. Yeah. People can like forgive it. It's like okay.

Their podcast is wild. Osborne's one. Oh my God. Yeah. All four of them still. I was like, they're just crushing it out. She looks good. Um, I saw another podcast clip. Um,

Harry Jowsey and Jake Shane. And... They were on one together? Yeah. Harry was on Jake Shane's. On Octopus Lover. Oh, really? So I love when you call him Octopus. I love Octopus Lover. I love it. What did he say? Well, he was talking about an influencer girl with veneers who has really bad breath. Okay, not me. I don't have veneers. And we never met. Every time he sees her, he's like... And she talks close. And he's always like, oh, disgusting. Octopus was saying this or Harry? Harry was telling this to Octopus. Okay.

Harry so much. Like, just chill. And then there was a clip of him on Cancelled. It was like early days because it was the newspaper background. But Brooke was there, so not that early. About him talking about Tana's breath. So everyone made the connection that...

Harry was shitting Tana on Octopus's podcast. Wait, because why? What was happening on the canceled episode? On the canceled episode, he was talking specifically about Tana's breath and how sometimes her breath smells or something. He said that on her own podcast? I hate that guy. Me too. What is his deal? Your face to face with someone, what is he saying? Your breath stings? What the hell? Okay, maybe your dick stings. She's being so nice about it.

You are British. You know what I mean? It's just like... That's wild. Maybe that's why... Oh, he's Australian? No, he's not. What? Okay, I take back the... Even worse. Even worse. Right. There you go. Even worse. I don't know. I know nothing about Australians.

They're basically when the British sent away their prisoners. They sent them to Australia. That's what Australia is. Wait, really? What? Oh, okay. He's a prisoner. Okay.

That's wild. Why do people hype him up so much? I just don't get it. Riley Arnold, follow me. I'm going to get the tea from Riley Arnold. Riley, calm on down. Gosh, I want to know. Because he is just really annoying me lately. I don't know. I think that last week's episode we were talking about him. I realized I just don't like him. Before, I never really thought about him because I'm just like – I just didn't know anything about him. Same. I know his name is Harry Jowsey.

He's on Disney with the Stars. I know he's Australian and I know he's tall and that's about all I know. That's all I know. He does OF, I guess. Yeah. And.

And I know he has a hot roommate. Who's his roommate? His name is Christian. I think he's from New Zealand or Australia. I actually don't know. Don't confuse the Kiwis and the Aussies. But you can confuse the British and the Aussies. No problem. They're the same. They really are the same. It's like Scottish and Irish. Yeah, the guy that actually unalived his wife, the gold, white, and blue black dress, he was Scottish.

Like we're just saying how there's no crime that happens there. And then we see that. I was like, oh, okay. The Scottish people are wild. And Baby Reindeer too. Martha's like, that actress doesn't even seem Scottish. She's like, she's not. She's British. Like she's putting on an accent to act like you, dummy. Like what the heck? She didn't even know. She was confused too. What a transition. I know. Sorry. I love Scotland. I want to go over there this year for Traders. And also I want to be in Joseph. CAA, get on that for me, please. Thank you. I'm hoping it works. Oh my God. They offered me a role on a TV show that was supposed to film this week in Hawaii. Yeah.

What? Yeah. I was so sad. That was for an influencer. I wonder if it was real or they were just like saying like- The White Lotus. Could you imagine? I was so sad. It was actually like-

I don't even know the show's name. It's on Fox, I think. I don't know. They said the show. I'm like, I wonder if they really wanted me or they were just like dangling it. Like, look, we got this for you, but we know you're having a baby. So like, you know what I mean? I was so sad. They're probably being honest about it, but I was just like so sad. I was like, oh my God. And there was like for the 20th, I'm like, I think I'm literally having a baby that day, but damn, I would have loved to gone over. That would have been so great. Do you think they really wanted me or think they just were, it was like a casting notice and like, this could have been you? Yeah.

I think they wanted you. Just somebody along the way didn't realize your due date. Like we leave it every day. They don't really... That's true. Yeah, no one cares that much except for us. I mean, if you want to have the baby in Hawaii, we can take it. I don't know if we can. What if I had it on the plane?

then the baby can free for life fly for free oh yeah like if you have a baby at disneyland or something you get free disney i heard that what that was a rumor no there's no way that's actually so funny in general yeah people that if you're born somewhere oh you get where should we go bing and bun yes you beat me too but i'm so mad that would be everything we get free chicken for life we gotta have them on i want them to cater this podcast because right now i could go for some chicken i'm like so hungry i was like oh my gosh yeah

They did? It was the Sheehan party at Coachella. Really? Bangin' Buns? I did a whole deep dive. Oh, my God. They're really crushing it because Sheehan's a big party. I mean, they said...

They said that they'll send, I mean, I'm sure they can end of every podcast, just send us. Bangin' Buns, please. I really want that chicken so bad right now. Our after show is just the Bangin' Buns after show where we eat the chicken. It was so, so good. Oh my gosh. If we didn't finish this late, I would go over there. Like last time we finished early, like noon, I would have been like all the way over at Bangin' Buns. I wish it was closer. It is so far. Bangin' a Valley, like, you know, this side of the

valley yeah it's deep in there it's too far but it's so good you know well time to open one in westlake i would love we can be an executive producer on the oh oh my god and they're so good but it's like i wonder if they're like we were talking about this do they actually cook the food the owners i heard that they um were like they started the recipe they were making it in the parking lot and that's how it got famous and they just taught the other people yeah but they're always in that location so i'm like okay are they always there that's true yeah

maybe that's they're from the valley originally so maybe that's why their mac and cheese was so good they even said actually I didn't even tell you this but they're like oh we're like making the cheese now it might take another 20 minutes we're like we'll wait for that mac and cheese because I know I was like oh man I was already like I was like okay you should be home around 12 30 I'm like it's gonna take a while to get there and then then we had to wait another 20 minutes and we had to film it was like it's gonna be a whole whole thing it was so worth it Moses you really need to have it I know we gotta maybe go out this week sometime like right when they open at like 11 yeah it really is worth it before I have this baby it is so good

Oh, she's moving. I hope I'm okay this episode. I really feel like I'm like out of my mind. I feel hungry and I feel hot. I'm so sorry if I come across negative in this episode. I'm not trying to. I feel like I don't know the full story either of everything I'm saying.

I'm giving half the stories. I think maybe the title is Pregnancy Brain for this episode. I don't think that's a good title. We'll do the titles to Oscar. Moses' title. In the description. We do need a disclaimer. Just let me check GPT something about like Pregnancy Brain and all the subjects. We need Jimmy to put a graphic at the beginning. Yeah, just so you know. This is what's happening in this episode.

Don't take anything. I know. Don't take it. Our new allegedly is pregnancy brain. Yeah. Dave, you can't say anything about us. I literally gave half the story to all those things. And I'm like, I really feel like I didn't give a full. And I knew nothing about any of the straight man news. So that was worse. I'm like, wait, did I even say anything? Because we were talking so much about George and Logan. And then when I just said the story, I'm like, did I even say any of that?

Probably not. But Fashion Nova sent me this dress and we're not sponsored by them on the podcast, although I am sponsored by them in real life. We're back. We took a 10-minute break. That felt so much better. I did have to pee for the past like two hours. The pressure is insane right now. The pressure on my bladder, like I really thought like my water's going to break right now. Like I really – it's crazy. The pressure is crazy. I just like couldn't even think straight. I can't imagine what it feels like. It kind of trips me out thinking about it. It's crazy. Like there's a baby in there. Even with –

Even when I think about it, like the moving, like every time I give like Moses hands to feel, I mean, that is wild. There's like a full grown baby. She's like eight and a half pounds. When we went to the doctor last week, she's like eight and a half. My mom wanted to know how much Malibu. And I told her that. I love that. Okay. Yes. My mom was like, she's like, how much she asked. She was like, how much does a baby weigh? I'm like, oh, she said eight pounds. Well, she's like, well, how much did Malibu weigh? She also thought your baby's name was Levi and not Elvis. I don't know. I love that. Oh my God. Yeah.

how she like mixed the letters around that's kind of everything she stays up to date she follows you now really yeah shout out mom is it mama gracie shout out mama gracie we love that malibu was eight pounds so that she's bigger than malibu right now bigger yeah and supposedly they grow a half pound a week this was like you're ready to come out so it is wild i don't know how to even describe it

It's so crazy. It's crazy when they come out of you too. It's like, oh my God, there was a full baby. She doesn't feel as heavy when you carry her. For me personally, it's like when the baby comes out, they feel so much heavier. I'm like, I don't really feel that much heavy, but it's just like – Actually, that is crazy. My cat is like eight and a half pounds and like carrying him, I'm like, oh, you're kind of heavy. I can't imagine that. And it's in your belly. I guess you're just like – it's like you're holding everything better. Plus all the fluid and stuff though too. So that's like – It is. I know. I was feeling it, but –

We went to the bathroom. I had some Cheez-Its. What did you have? Mina cookies. Shout out PokeMina. Shout out Mina cookies. Those are good as hell. I was literally, once you said break, I'm like, I'm running to go get some Mina cookies. Yeah, yeah, yeah. We usually wait until the Patreon break, but I was like, I'm going to pass out. I felt like any moment, I'm like, oh.

Mo said it's been funny. I hope so. I'm like, I actually have no idea. I just said it to him. I was like, are you sure? I was like, this, I have, we've talked about nothing. You're pregnant. This might be the last one before you give birth. It's a rare opportunity. One of a kind. I hope we make it to next week. I have a sponsor next week too. We'll see. We had no sponsor this week. So it would have been the perfect week to give birth last week. But-

We'll see what we can do. Any sponsor will be happy to be right when we come back after. Yeah, but we might not be back. What if we get birth on like next Monday? We have such good ones banks though that like. That's true. Yeah. What I'm saying is like they'll be happy even if it's a week later because you're coming back. No, but we don't have it. What if we don't have sponsors that week later and then it's just like whatever. We just postpone it if that week we don't have a show. Oh yeah. Okay. I'm sure they won't.

They'll understand. Okay. And if they don't, then it's problematic because you're a mom. Yeah. I'm pregnant. You can't discriminate against me. I think there's a whole movie with Lindsay Lohan about that, how she pretends to be pregnant so they can't fire her. You know what? I just – I hate when I do this because I watch like part of it and I don't finish it. But on – oh my god. Jessie and Lily's podcast. Shout out. Lily DME. Do we know them? Yeah. Yes. Love it. They talked about a girl who –

was faking like she said she like disappeared for a little bit said she was pregnant oh yes the influencer yeah and then faked a miscarriage and everything I was like that is crazy that's wild that's crazy was it for Patreon or something too they said yes to subscribe to the Patreon and then it was like you guys are weird and parasocial for like being so attached to my life that you would get excited for my pregnancy or miscarriage oh my god what people are

Like there are some people who are so dumb online. Like these influencers – the influencer, not the fans. I'm like, God, these people have like no – like how do they function in the world? Like how are you anybody? Why would you blame people for caring about – that's your whole career. It's like you should be thankful people care. People are – I know. I do hate – that is my number one thing with like people wanting like privacy and stuff when they're like an influencer in your whole life is like – it's like one thing to be an influencer like Mr. Beast or whatever where it's like not your life. But if it is your life and then people like – like when people break up, why do you care? I don't know. You made a whole couple's account, you know? Like –

It's that's why we care. Like that's so weird. People are so odd that way. There's just too many influencers. Unpopular opinion. Too many influencers. I wish we were a little more exclusive in our – I do feel exclusive enough that I've like been around for so long so I do feel like I'm in a different category. But there's just so many. And there's stupid stuff like that. Like the people are like, it's a hard job. Why do you guys care if I have a miscarriage? Like are you dense? Like –

There's no common sense. Yeah. It's tough because then like whenever it gets picked up by the news, it's like, oh, an influencer said this. And this is like – then everyone is like, oh, this is the problem with influencers. You know, like everyone goes down with you. The guy has like $4,000 for an hour of TikTok. I'm like, you sound so dumb right now. Like you sound so dumb. I hate it. God, people are just so out of touch. I don't know. Or the one who's like, I'm just like you. I got a couture dress for free so I didn't pay the designer. I'm like, girl, sorry. I'm relatable. Sorry, Hailey Bailey. I love her.

I feel sad. I don't know. I don't feel sad. I feel very happy. I just have a baby in me.

Which is a lot of emotions right there. Luckily, you can blame a lot of it. Dr. Drew's coming up and he did tell me like a lot of it is hormonally justified. See? There you go. That's coming from a doctor. Yeah, you got to own it. And then you also have like a few months after of like all those raging hormones too. Oh, up to a year, he said. I was like, okay. There you go. We have a whole year of that. But past year, no. Because then I was saying like the one who left their 16-month old at home was like, no, that's past year. That's not that. That's like –

It's like, okay, that makes sense. Because I, yeah, after, it is like the year mark where you become magically yourself again, which is kind of cool. I remember at her year birthday, I was like, we're doing Vegas, we're doing the, I'm like, yeah, I'm getting the groove back. But to say, even physically, it takes two years to recover because it's such a huge undertaking. Yeah.

It's a lot in there. Anyways, we're back. I had some apple juice. I feel like that maybe helped a little bit. You know Riley Arnold is a type 1 diabetic? Oh my god, really? Yeah. I started following her on Instagram back and she said like I got the diagnosis. I was like oh my god. I guess you could take Ozempic. Oh yeah. Oh my god. Does that regulate your sugar? Yeah. Does she lose weight? She's so tiny. She doesn't need to is what I'm saying. Good question. I think if you – I actually have no idea. I don't even want to like say I think. I don't either. I have no idea. Yeah.

I have no idea. Well, actually, no. I have no idea. We're not medical professionals over here. I know. Dr. Drew talks about his epic, too. I can't wait for that episode. It's coming up soon. I love Dr. Drew. Well, I guess that's a good segue back to Mary Jowsey, the Riley Arnold. Oh, right. See, that's the problem because, like, with the Harry Jowsey, Riley Arnold stuff, I feel like everyone –

Like, we learned so much about Harry or Harry was the one shoved down our throats when, like, really we should be talking about the star who is Riley Arnold who is, like, a dancer. She was the one that's, like, actually on the show. You know what I mean? Yeah, 18 years old, so talented. Like – Yeah. She should have been, like, the star. And Harry definitely, you know, profited off of that showmance or whatever. What is it? Exploited it. Yeah. I don't like it. Don't exploit an 18-year-old. And, yeah, him on the octopus –

The Octopus Podcast. I don't forget. What is it? Shoot. You don't have to look it up. It's fine. I mean, it's shout out. Whatever. Who was he interviewing the other day? I was like, God, he really gets like everyone and everything. He's not another actor or musician. Someone famous recently. Yeah. He's always with someone famous. Yeah. Who did he have recently? Great PR people. I don't know. I saw. He had someone traditional. I forget who. Yeah. He gets a lot of traditional people. Yeah. He was like a musician. I can't think now. Well, anyway, he had Derry Jowsey on.

Oh, he had Harry Johnson on his. Yes. Yes. He was on Octopus. Harry was on Octopus's podcast. That's where he talked about Tana's breath. Or he didn't say the influencer girl with veneers name who talks close. Ew. I also like a guy who just like talks about that stuff. It's like, you're so weird. Especially their friends. That too.

That too. Yeah. You guys like hug each other and stuff like that. You're odd. You're so weird. Yeah. I think anyone who talks about people is like anything. Like the way they smell. Also, I've been so close to Tana and never once had smelled bad breath or whatever. It's like just such a weird thing to say. Yeah. Maybe it was your stinky breath you were smelling. Sometimes people do have the stinky breath. Try to be like, oh, something smells. It's like, it's you. I've had people with body odor do that. They'll be like, something really smells. And I'm like, it's literally you. And they don't understand that. So maybe that was him, honestly. And I kind of think that because you do smell your own breath, right? Like you can smell your own breath. Yeah.

And like he talked about like wanting to hand her gum and stuff. I'm just like, oh, it's also a story. Like why? That's the most interesting story. Because that was the highlight. That was a clip that was on the podcast TikTok account. You know what I mean? That was the big takeaway. So I'm like your most interesting story is that. Someone else has bad breath. Yeah. Then. Okay. Yeah. You're a loser. Like there's nothing going on.

That is what's crazy to me. Yeah. When people just talk about other people's like stories on their podcast. It has nothing related to them. Like he's not the cause of the bad breath. It wasn't like she was, you know, on him and like got bad. You're just talking about that. Like it's so weird. You're so odd. And it's not like a hot topic. Right. Yeah. It's like you're just making up an own one. Oh, God. Ew. I hate it. Has she been canceled? I feel like they haven't done canceled since they've been back. Oh, that's – I guess they filmed some –

When was the last canceled? I haven't seen one. The last one was like – Oh, no, no. They had one last week, I think. It was a childhood trauma episode. Oh, okay. I don't think I saw that one yet. Okay, maybe. Yeah. And I think – Obviously, that must have been filmed. Pre-filmed. Yeah, because Tana's in Mexico. Brooke's here, I think. Oh, my God. Baby reindeer over here.

knowing everyone's location. Hassan's in New York, Tana's in New Mexico. It's also so easy because- I know, I'm just kidding. I love that you know that. I know everything too. I'm always like, look at- Usually I do. Actually, I'm just kind of out of it with locations, but- I'm trying to think where- Do I know where anyone else is at? Joey's in London. Jaclyn Hill is at my Popeye's down the street. Wait. She had- Yesterday on Mother's Day, she went by Popeye's with these like pretty roses and the flea market next to it. I was like, that's my Popeye's. Wait, did she move here? Jaclyn Hill's your neighbor? I don't know.

don't know if she was just passing through because I saw they ended up in Santa Barbara so I don't know if they just like passed through but I think they might because they said they lived out of LA and I was like this yeah yeah and then I went to message her and then I said something like I'm restricted or something like yeah like I had a red X because I was like oh let me see if she messaged me back and I was like oh we still follow each other but I guess there's a restriction remember I showed you I was like oh let me see if she replied and there's like a red X and I was like what does this mean

Yikes. Sorry, Jacqueline. Probably deserved it somewhere along the line, but I don't know what I did. Because I was like, I think this is the one by me. And Candy Johnson. We live close to each other. I would die if Jacqueline was on your podcast.

I would love. I just feel like she doesn't like to get into the tea. I want to get into like maybe though. Sometimes she talks about her like past scandals. Yeah. Because I think hers. I feel like she's gotten better. I feel like her scandals are so unserious. Especially looking back because it was the furry lipsticks and John McGeddon were like similar time. Was she in John McGeddon? No. She just had her furry lipsticks at the same time as John McGeddon was going on. Oh, I see. Yeah. Or was it lipsticks? Yeah. Lipsticks, right? Yeah. Yeah.

It was the same time. But like – so in comparison to like all that versus the little – the furry lipsticks, I'm like – you know. Did her drama with Colleen ever come out? Like – No. Is it not? I don't know. Again, I don't want to be here jazzy telling other people's drama for entertainment. Yeah.

wasn't even that I want to say Jacqueline talked about it but people may not have known it was about Colleen so maybe I shouldn't but she definitely did talk about it how like an influencer like embarrassed her at like a party they were doing like truths or dares and someone asked her about her fuzzy lipsticks oh I had no idea but I also haven't kept up with Jacqueline like that but it was a while ago and people like speculated it was like about Colleen and I'm pretty sure it was about Colleen because I think I heard that wow

We'll say it's speculation and alleged because I'm not sure. But I feel like I remember all that. And she's kind of like – and she's like, why would she bring that up? I think Jacqueline talked about it. And I think that's why she was talking about how she's not friends with influencers or people in California because she was like, I was so embarrassed. Like, why is she bringing up my fuzzy lipsticks in front of everyone at the party or something like that? I think someone, the influencer, accused – like, okay, you knew that there was fuzzy hair in your lipstick or something.

That sounds like a Joey Graceffa party. Because I'm like, where else would these people cross paths, right? I think it was... Because Jacqueline was at... Jacqueline and Colleen were at one of the Christmas... Okay, so maybe that's where all the drama goes down at the Joey Graceffa parties. That's where you're... Yeah. Thank God those stopped. Joey Graceffa just... Really the center of all the drama. Were you there? At that one with Jacqueline? Because I've never seen Jacqueline in real life. Yeah, I saw Jacqueline at...

Yeah, Jacqueline and Colleen. What party was that? One of the Christmas ones. I think they had fake snow outside. I don't know. I don't know if there was slides. I think it was just out front. They had fake snow one year. I remember the snow slide year. But I do remember Jacqueline at one of the parties. I saw her that one time.

I think maybe Nikita Dragun was there. They all kind of blend in my head though. You know what I mean? Yeah, totally. That era. Yeah. Because I remember one with you where we did the white elephant and then you got my, the thing I brought. What did I get? It was like the Harry Potter book pre-J.K. Rowling. Oh, yeah. But like the illustrated one and you were so excited. I was like, wow, Trisha got my gift. Were we friends at the time?

We talked. I think it was one where we talked. Was I by myself at that party? Was it the loner one? It might have been that one. One time I went with somebody. One time I was by myself. All the time I went by myself. And then also I think Nikita's gift that she brought was like a dildo with a furry tail. Do you remember that? No. Or a butt plug. It wasn't a dildo. It was a butt plug with a furry tail. Oh, no, no.

Or no. Maybe she got that one and then her gift was a wig, like the Nikita Dragun wig. Do you have any recollection? Do you remember the Bellamy hair wig she came out with that was so thin? Yes. Because her wigs are such sleighs. And then she's like, I'm coming out with my own wigs. And it's like literally so thin. And you're just like, what? Yes. It was that. I live for that. What memories, dude. Those parties were crazy. Were they? I don't know.

It was just such a weird mix of influencers that should never really cross paths. No. Influencer parties are never fun. I had one influencer party. I was talking about that. My 30th birthday. And it was like Shane and the Vlog Squad and also just like random people. And it was like, you know, just random people that I was just friends with. And it was like a mix of everybody there. I was like, okay. It's hard to mix different groups. It is kind of. Yeah. Because also it's like, I don't know. Some people are snotty with other ones too. Like, I don't like this one. I don't want it. Whatever.

Yeah. I think one year I was just like, oh, I'm the it girl in all the groups. I'm inviting everybody. Because I know Gigi always came to my parties, La Demi, like, you know. So I feel like it was always just an interesting mix of people. But that one was fun. I had a casino night or something. Liza Koshy was there. It really was like the it girl. Oh, yours? Oh, wow. That is everything. It was before they announced their breakup. Because I remember we went and like took photo booths together. Oh. Yeah. Pretty good times. Yeah.

Your party is not like the Just Trish party now. It would be like the girl group for sure. It would just be all girls at this point. Yeah. Like you. And Ted. Yeah. And Ted. He can come too. And Moses could be the guy. I think Ted might be back in Australia. Oh, yeah. He's been in Australia for a minute. Yeah. I can see he left after ours. Oh, that's right. Yeah. Yeah. I think maybe he's back now. He has new merch out. I need to order it. Oh, my –

This episode is just a recap of everyone we follow. So sorry, everybody. They said you have 20 minutes left. We're like, okay. Did we have a hot topic? We had something we were going to. Oh, Harry Jowsey. Oh, that's it. Yeah. I mean, what else can we possibly say about Harry Jowsey? Oh, now, I think the – did the trailer come out for his Perfect Match season? What is that? Oh, on Netflix? No. I hate shows like that. Like, I'm like, these are people we don't know.

Yeah. And it kind of is spoiled because those photos with him and Jessica from Love is Blind. Right. From 2023, like resurfaced. So obviously we know they connect in the Netflix show. They sit on these shows for so long. Because it's also like Jess from Love is Blind was like so popular. Like I was so interested in her. But it's like, you know, after some time after those shows, you kind of don't care about those people anymore because it's like that was so long ago. And I don't really care about this. I like Love is Blind. I love Love is Blind. But I don't really care about this show.

Isn't it crazy how when love is blind over, you just forget about people though? I know. You're so invested in the moment. Who's the girl that says she's like Megan Fox? I was like, oh my God, we got to get her on. I love Chelsea. Everyone was talking about Chelsea. Travis Kelsey was talking about Chelsea. Yes, Megan Fox. Everybody. Everyone was weighing in. Even when they were like –

saying they give updates, you know, about the people from Love is Blind. I was like, who's that? Like the names? I always think that too. Yeah. Never remember. Yeah. So. They're not good at parlaying their fame. No. I guess at least Harry Jowsey did that. He had, he started on Too Hot to Handle.

Oh, I have no idea. Something like that. I don't know what that show is. Something about being hot. Really? And dating. Oh, I thought he was just like an influencer. I think he started on one of those shows of something, a hot dating show. Do you know what parlay means? Yeah, like you take your success from one thing and then you go into the next. Oh, really? But what do they mean in like Pirates of the Caribbean when they say like parlay? Is that the same thing or is that a different word? Can you do a pirate sentence? Yeah, he's like, oh, you remember he'd be like,

You have to say parlay if you want to let something stop. Like, if you want to make something stop in Pirates of the Caribbean. She's like, I order you to stop at the power of parlay. He's like, parlay? Did you just say parlay? It's like a pirate code. And she's like, yes, if I say parlay, you have to let him go. Don't you remember that? Is that the same thing? I've never seen Pirates of the Caribbean. I've seen you cosplay as Captain Jack Sparrow at the drive-thrus. I'll have some rum. This is it? Yo ho!

whole pirate's life for me that was iconic you've never seen pirates of the caribbean what that's like the biggest movie of all time oh i don't think it's the biggest movie of all time it has to be not the biggest movie it's big it's big but it's not the biggest movie of all time that has to be i saw it 10 times when i was in theaters i mean it has a ride in disneyland yeah thank you i don't even remember that i

if you don't know. A negotiation conference, especially one between enemies over terms of a truce or other matters. So it's different. It's not the same. This is from Pirates of the Caribbean Wiki. Oh, okay, okay. Like if I say parley, you have to let him go. Like that's always what I remember. The root of the word is the French verb to speak. I'm not going to go into the rest. I don't know. But what do you say it means? Because I actually don't know. I just always use that word. I think I use it wrong. No, I think you used it right.

Parlay your success into something else. Yeah, into something else. Turn an initial stake or winnings from a previous bet into a greater amount. So separate. It's a different meaning. Yeah. I just always remember them saying like, parlay. Parlay.

Literally, I know the ride at Disneyland and then I know your drive-thru video. And I feel like that's enough Pirates knowledge I need. That's all you need to know. Yeah. I think Dined Up might have gotten canceled. Speaking of canceled, I feel like kind of people are over him because his movie was supposed to open, the French one, and then it just didn't. And it made like $1,000, I think. How is that even possible? I've never heard of a movie making only $1,000. That's crazy. So what does that mean? Like 10 people bought tickets? Yeah.

Actually. That's weird. Like, even if you don't know a movie, like, you buy tickets to it. Like, you know, just random ones starting. Uh-huh. Like, you just have nothing to see and you just go. They didn't even buy popcorn and drinks. How do you know? They don't calculate that as ticket prices. They might have.

I saw someone buy their pregnant wife an AMC popcorn and nachos. I almost sent it to you. And this is not something I just made up. I almost sent it to you. She was like, that is amazing. She was in bed and it was 10 o'clock at night and she had a craving for popcorn and nachos. And he came back with an AMC bucket and nachos. And I almost sent it to Moses. I was like, that looks so good. So we went to a movie with somebody else. No, he just came back with the snacks right away. He went for 10 minutes, came back. We have an AMC right down the street. And my AMC app, I saw that.

You can order food just for takeout. They have an option. Oh, God. We got to do another one of those. Because I – what was the last movie I saw? Fall Guy or Planet of the Apes? Whatever. When did you go? I saw one of them. Planet of the Apes I saw Saturday. You go see a lot of movies. We have that membership. So we just go. Anything out, we just go. Did you like Planet of the Apes? No. I think I don't like apes though in general. Definitely not. They kind of scare me. Are they even around still in real life?

Like, where do you see an ape? No, they all evolved. They're all humans. That's what I feel. Because isn't that movie supposed to be, like, dystopian, like, old? Yeah, like, well, dystopian doesn't mean old. What's it mean? Future. Futurist. Future? So it's the future the apes take over? Yeah. It's the opposite of utopia, right? Yeah. T. So the apes are coming back.

that yeah the apes were like the dominant race or something i don't know there was a i just something i like apes like that like they kind of scare me like that one that ripped the face off the lady in real life i know in the simple yeah do you remember that she was on oprah

No. Where'd she see an ape? She had a chimpanzee. Like, she had, literally, like, in her house. I don't think you're supposed to house them. Exactly. Yeah. And it, like, and she, like, maybe she raises or something. I think it was the friend of the person. Oh, she came to, yeah, you might be right. I mean, there's, like, a reason you're not supposed to house, like, exotic animals, you know? Like, they do that because they're wild. I remember Justin Bieber had a monkey, then he had to give it away. Real? Obviously, yeah. Michael Jackson did, too. Bubbles. Oh, yeah. I remember Justin, too.

Right? He would get in trouble all the time. Yeah. Because of that monkey. Why was Justin Bieber so problematic? Well, Perry Sulton also had that little monkey. Because you're a successful child. People really didn't like him. But I also feel like he was victimized in so many interviews. I'm like, God, he was really... People were just like... Yeah, I kind of feel bad for him now in retrospect. I never liked him, but now I'm like, oh, he seems kind of...

I mean, I feel like he's on a healing journey with fatherhood and stuff. Yeah, I hope so. I think that'll be – they were pretty pictures. They're young. They're 30 and 27. I guess it's like not young. I guess people have kids that age. It's like normal, yeah. Yeah, but everyone now is having kids older, which is kind of cool. But I love that for them. I know. Seeing all these people with babies. I guess I kind of feel like Kendall Jenner. I'm like, everyone around me has babies. Do you feel that? I feel like you're still so young. I feel like 35, everyone has babies. I feel that too. Yeah. But I feel like a lot of people I went to high school with all have babies. Really? My coworkers have a lot of babies. I'm like, oh my God.

So you feel, I didn't feel it. Yeah. Like 35, I was like, wow, everyone seems to be having babies. But I guess, cause like Rihanna and Lala, like they're all older. So I was like, oh, everyone's having babies around this age. But I guess when you're, I guess now with Hailey Bieber, who else was pregnant? Someone else was young and pregnant. Uh,

Oh, Sophia Richie's young. What were you saying about the apes? Oh, just nothing? Apes? I don't know how I feel about apes. Well, they're not real. I saw that there was actors playing them. Did you see that? Yeah. That's cool, though. There's one actor who's so scary. He was in Lost, and he plays one of the apes, and he's so cool. I think I'm...

I think I know what you're talking about. He's kind of scary. He's like older. Yes. He was like the main ape in like the James Franco one. Yeah. Yeah. He was in the movie Abigail. Yes. I love that guy. And then I saw Fall Guy, which is also like whatever, but- Ryan Reynolds. Gosling. Gosling.

Close enough. Yeah, they're interchangeable. Was it good? It was fine. It was fun. It was a fun time. I love the movies. I want to go. But I remember when – this can lead us into Simple Life, I guess. I remember when Paris Hilton had a little monkey and then it was flying around on the bus when she – Flying around on the bus? It was the Simple Life where –

Two? Oh, no. The one where they had to take the bus, the Greyhound, and they had a monkey in the bus. And it was jumping around all crazy. I feel like that might have been like three. I feel like the second one was the pink truck. Oh, you're right. Yes. Interns. Interns was three. That was the Greyhound. Oh, were they like working jobs? Yes. I never saw it, but I like the theory. Oh, that one's so good. I mean, they're all really, really good. I think I'd watch them. I used to have them on DVD and I would like stay at home and watch them all the time.

All the time. What did you like about it? Because honestly, if I'm being real, I was never – I like the idea of Simple Life. I think it was like a conic show. But I never like got into it. Oh my gosh. Like I never – I saw them here and there, but I never really saw it. Maybe if you actually sat down and watched it because I even – What did you like about it though? I loved –

And I still do. I'm like the cute girl bimbo act. I think when it's done well, it is so funny to me. You think they were better than Jessica Simpson? Because I feel like she did it so good. I think they were better than the newlyweds because I think Paris and Nicole together are funnier than Nick and Jessica. I think Jessica by herself is really, really funny. But Nick Lachey, I get that it was like the stereotypical macho guy who was like...

I was like, Jessica, Jessica. Like, how do you not know that? You know, but like a Lucy, Ricky kind of dynamic. But Paris and Nicole are both so funny that I feel like it maximized that joint slay. Maybe that was the misogyny of me back in the day where I just wanted to see like a hot guy with a girl and I didn't like the two girls because I'm like, that's too much girls. Oh, yeah, maybe. You know what I mean? Because even when I watched Girls in the Store back in the day before I realized it was about the girls, I remember being like, I want to be Hugh Hefner's girlfriend. And rather than like, I want to be Holly Madison, I want to be his girlfriend.

And Jessica too. I was like, ooh, I want like a hot boyfriend like Nick and I want to live in this house. That's so funny. Yeah. That's where we differ. But I feel like maybe now I could appreciate The Simple Life more. Because I even rewatched it with my boyfriend in 2020, I think. And it holds up. Really? He was laughing at it. Yeah. I love that. We watched Girls Next Door together. We watched Anna Nicole together. And I'm like, yeah, they still hold up really good. So it's like it's always fun to rewatch it. The Simple Life is still really – I love season two and three. I should watch it.

Season one was good, but I like when they drive around. They see different people. Yeah, yeah, yeah. That's better. Okay, I'm going to rewatch it. And now they have a reunion coming up. But is it The Simple Life? Because I saw the teaser, but it was just like a blank TV. I know. They haven't revealed what the project is yet.

It's going to be on Peacock, which I'm like, oh my God, now I have to get Peacock back. Although you have the Peacock plug. That's right. I haven't heard from them since. They sent me a passport cover and a laptop case and I haven't heard from them since. Peacock, I'm ready. When is it happening? I have one troll account on Twitter that always harasses me. Wow, how embarrassing. You're not picked for the Traders. They're filming right now and they didn't pick you and you lobbied for them. I was like, it's not really that embarrassing. It's not like that realistic, but okay.

It's so funny. Anyways. Yeah. Shout out Peacock. Well, I guess that's what her show's on all the time, right? Paris is in love. Oh, yeah. I guess you're right. So it makes sense. Yeah. And then Nicole, I don't know where Nicole's show is. She was on the, oh my God, was the Babysitter's Club reboot or something like that? No, I didn't know that. Yeah. Yeah.

And I think Nicole is still like so funny. Like I think she did like a spoof of like a song. It's like she made a song about gems like on TikTok, like a spoof song. I haven't seen her. I have not seen her at all. Oh, I mean she still looks great. Yeah, of course. And like she's still funny. Like in interviews, she's still like – Yeah, she was always funny. I always liked her in interviews and like the clips I remember seeing like when I was a kid. Like I did see some episodes. I always thought she was like the funniest.

anyone. Yeah. For sure. But maybe watching it now I could appreciate Paris a little more. I think I could never relate to Paris because she was like a tall, thin. It's like Zendaya too. I never got on the Zendaya train until recently. It's like, oh, they're just tall and thin and I'll never be that. You know what I mean? Yeah. As with some like Anna Nicole, even though I have like, like I said, Bridget on Girls. She's like curvier. Oh, I could be that. Yeah. Which is like still unattainable, but yeah.

Yeah, maybe that's why. I don't know. And I like Nicole Richie because she was curvy. For that one season. Then she got teeny-tiny. Yeah, and even that one season, she's actually not even. Her legs are sticks. I guess just, like, when you're sitting next to Paris Hilton. Yes. That's definitely it. But it is crazy. Like, she got so skinny. But those shows hold up. I am really excited to see what they do because I still think that, like, even though their lives are very different and they're older, that, like, they're still very, like,

tied into pop culture. I mean, especially Paris. Like, she knows, like, all the influencers. All over, yeah. Yeah. She just did Taria Me. Taria Me. So she's in the know. Yeah. For sure. So I think it'll still be, like, really solid. And I'm excited to see what it is. But I remember when they filmed...

I remember they had the feud. Oh, you remember their feud at least, even though you didn't watch it. No. They had a big falling out and then they still had the contract. Yeah. But they were still under contract. So they had to shoot The Simple Life separately. That's so silly. It was a whole thing. But they filmed it in the Valley. And I remember one episode they filmed at the hospital where I was born. I was like, wow. Wow. Yeah. Not when you were born though. No. When was this? Maybe like 2005. Oh, so you're just like.

Like, oh, I was at the hospital 20 years ago? And I lived down the street, so I'm like, damn, I could have seen them, you know? Oh, that's so funny. That's... Okay, I love that. They were, like, so, like, pivotal in, like, my gay childhood. Really? That's so...

And it just... Like, why, I guess, is what I'm saying. I mean, the same way that I feel like a lot of, like, gay people love you. It's just, like, there's something about, like, the cute, like, ditzy, like, act, you know? Yeah. Where they're actually, like, so fierce. Because then you also saw them, like, when they actually got pissed, you could actually see when they got pissed. And, like, they would, like, be serious and, like, shut guys down who, like, would try to, like, objectify them or whatever or treat them dumb. Right. Okay. So I think it was, like, that, like...

of being like funny, cute girls, like lighthearted up to mischief, but then also like shutting guys down. Yeah. Okay, I love that. Yeah. And they had the little dogs and they had the pink like pickup truck and everything. It was just the vibe. It was so fierce, yeah. There was a lot of those girls at the time, so that's why I'm like,

Because I like that vibe too. I like the Jessica Simpsons, Anna Nicole, like Holly. But I guess I just never gave it a chance. But maybe I need to give it a chance. I think it would resonate with you now. I also think the rich element too. I was always maybe a little jealous of rich people because I was like I never could be rich. I didn't like rich lifestyles. So I don't like Beverly Hills Housewives. Like I love – even though like Holly and all of them were like rich and Jessica, they like seemed more relatable. So maybe that's it. As opposed to girls where it's like what's the walls and what – now it's like funny. I appreciate it. Obviously I love the campness of it. Like of course. I get it. It's joking. But maybe at the time I was just like –

You know what I mean? I don't know. But I don't know. But people love rich lifestyles too. You know, they love, not now, but you know, they did. At one point, yeah. Now it's eat the rich. But Paris Hilton, I think, surpasses that where they just like, they love her because she is so over the top and whatever. Yeah. I love that too. Paris Hilton, shut up. I remember when I had a TV meeting for real.

And someone asked about me and Tana doing like a simple life. But they're like, okay, but they're like, you know, these rich social girls that grew up in like, you know, this elite thing going into like a farm. Like what would your thing be? And I was trying to think and I was just like, yeah, I don't know because we're not those girls. We weren't brought up like, you know, bougie or something like that. Like I guess like we never went to like college. So it would be like us like, you know –

like figuring out like how to go to the moon or something or like being at Harvard or, you know, something like that. Not to say we're dumb, but we're not like educators. I'm like, I guess it would be like, that would be the, cause I was trying to feel like it. I'm like, yeah, you're right. I'm like, it's like, we grew up, we're like normal people, obviously. Like we grew up eating fast food and stuff, but like,

I couldn't think of the equivalent. I don't know. I hate going to pitch meetings in general with TV shows because they're like, what do you see for yourself as a show? I'm like, I don't see anything. And then when they ask Simple Life and like, oh, like what would your – I'm like, I don't really know anyways. I don't know. It's so funny when you go to those things. I'm like, aren't you supposed to have the show and pitch it? You know what I mean? I don't know. But I still see that like –

that like simple lifestyle show for you too because this is very fish out of water it's like two very glam girls who all of a sudden like have to like fend for themselves a little bit and figure out how to do all this like kind of like scientific stuff like milking a cow is kind of scientific like you know all those elements are still like you have to be like knowledgeable and it's still like that fish out of water element it had to be like intellectual i feel like like

Figuring out like the cure to cancer or something like that. Or even – Cancer care. I mean like the simple like interns, it was like them working – like trying to work like normal jobs. So it could also be very like that coded. Like you guys in like an office trying to do like office jobs. It's like you guys have never done an office job. I can't imagine – I mean I definitely have. But that's what I'm saying. I feel like I worked so much. Like I was a fast – like not fast but I worked like waitressing and bartending and like retail. But like imagine you in like a normal like office environment where it's like you are like taking calls and stuff. You know what I mean? Like you as a receptionist is like very –

You've been a receptionist? Yeah, yeah, yeah. I've done a lot of receptions. I used to work so many Craigslist jobs from like 18 to like 24. Like I was part time and then I'd quit and whatever. But I think I've had like every job for real. Okay, I guess like. Okay, here's a new pitch. Every job that you have quit or got fired from or whatever, we revisit. That's a good. There we go. There we go. I think I was fired from every job in like two weeks. There we go. See, there's your show. That's actually true, yeah. I've worked a lot.

I've worked a lot of jobs. I kind of hold a lot of jobs. See, that's at least like five seasons. So we'd make a list of everything you got fired from. Love that. And then we go back and then you get justice. You become good at the job. Okay. Producer hired. See? I love that. You actually would be good at producing. You should come up with a TV show. Because people are always like, oh, what's a TV show? I'm like, I don't know. You know what I mean? Like, I just, I have nothing going on. Oh, we're done. Moses, stop. It, cut it. It's no longer good. It's no longer funny. God, the way he did that was so aggressive. Just, good. Stop.

Okay, well. I was literally here quietly just like, okay, we're done. I wish your bolognese was ready right now. I wish it took you two minutes to make it, but it takes a long time. Even if we went to go get the ingredients, it just takes so long. I guess if you guys record the Patreon episode. No, we need you for that too. That's a problem. I thought about that last night too. I was like, God, I wish I could have some bolognese right now. We got good quick food. That's what we got to get because I'm going to be. Anyways, okay. Thank you guys for watching. Ugh.

Just stay tuned. We have an extended podcast coming. You thought this was nutty. It's going to be even nuttier. The wig is getting tighter. My baby is growing bigger. A half a pound every – Half a pound every minute really. We have all the tea on patreon.com slash justtrusteeextendedpodcast. People we don't want to bring up here because we just act like we don't know them. We're baby reindeer. We don't know them but also we know exactly where they're at. We know their exact location. Yeah.

Love you guys. Thanks for watching. And we'll see you in the next one. I hope you – I was being good. Just – no. I'm going through a lot right now. So physically. This is the just pregnant episode. This is the just pregnant. I know. It's not personal. It's just pregnancy. Yeah. It's just pregnancy for real. Don't take anything I said. I literally have no idea what I said this episode. We love you, Dave. We love you, Dave. We love you, Haley Bailey. We love you. Yeah. Maybe not Harry. Don't talk about people's bad breath. Oh, yeah. We still enemy – Harry and Matt Rife still my enemies. But everyone else – Everyone else we live. Okay. Bye.