The DOWNFALL of Cody Ko, REJECTED by Trixie Mattel & Leo Skepi SHADES Trisha
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I feel like where I grew up there was like no laws I feel like people were just you know what I mean like cousins would date each other and not like in a weird I'm not being shady That's just like what it was and I was like maybe the laws is there a law you can't date your cousin? Hello you guys don't skip our episode

It's just Trish and Oscar and Moses. Don't embarrass me, motherfuckers. What Moses? Sorry, I kicked Moses away. This is Barry here. Oh, yeah. You have your face shaved today, which is like... Barry here.

Kind of shook that you did it for the Barry cosplay. I just got out of jail with my duffel bag. That's the only cosplay we got accurate. I ordered everything exactly what he wore. They came. It was just sitting at the UPS store and they didn't tell us. So I found it last night and I couldn't get it today's Sunday. And I was just like, oh my God, I couldn't get it. But the cross came in.

Is that the first time wearing a cross, babe? No. You've worn a cross before? I like it. It looks good on you. But everything else is yours. It's such a funny cosplay. First of all, wait. I always ask you to shave your face for cosplays, like really important ones that are like shade face. I'm like, no, no, no. But you did it for the Barry Keoghan cosplay?

Because I feel like he looks like one of those cats with no hair. You know, like he has so much skin. I don't know how to explain it. You can't be him without a lot of skin. A cat with no hair. Like his face is just skin. Well, most of his face is just skin. That'd be awkward if it wasn't. Do you know what I mean, Oscar?

know what he's trying to say? Is it because he's one of the hot rat boys or whatever? Oh, the rodent man. Yeah. Okay. Is it rat boys or rodent? I think it's rodent man. I'm like, rat is wild. Rat boys are a different band. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Right. The rodent look. Oh, that's what you wanted to go for. See, in the best way, I can see a little rodent in you. I see that. I don't

I love the rodent. You know I love rodent men. The Mike Feist, the Josh O'Connors. I don't really like Timothee Chalamet, but I like Jeremy Allen White. I like all the rodent men. Yeah, I don't know. They're kind of him. Some of them didn't really give me rodent vibes like a Jeremy Allen White, but I think it's good that he's lumped in there, too. I think he's a rodent vibe. I think it's just the pointed face, kind of like littler eyes, maybe beady eyes. Yeah, and the jaw cheeks. Yeah, yeah, definitely. I think it's...

it's definitely a compliment. I mean, it sounds bad. They're all hot. I know, it sounds bad, but they're all literally so hot. Yeah, it is a weird thing. Yeah, if they were like lumped in with like ugly randoms, then I feel like then that's bad. Who's an ugly random that you wouldn't want lumped in there? I want to know who you think is the ugly, because I feel like you don't really have

don't really have like uglies um I guess I'm mean maybe we don't need to say it I know cancel in like five minutes right in the intro that's true because you know what like what's what's it called we don't shame men like men look you know because I do feel like men get like shamed sometimes and it's like it's only okay if we only say like nobody shaming to women but I feel like men sometimes oh yeah for sure and stuff

But I think rodent is an endearing term. I think it's meant to be like hot. I think so too. And it's like literally like, like I said, if the whole group of them is all like hot guys, hot, successful, like in demand actors were like probably like the hottest actors right now. It's really good. Yeah. Also like in, in Chinese astrology, the rat is the smartest one from all of them.

So like, you know, some people are just attached to like, I don't like rats, but it's not a bad thing. And they're the smartest one. Really? The rats? Maybe we should have a baby here of the rats. Basically, the story of the Chinese astrology is like there was a race and the bull, the Taurus, was at the front. And right before the finish line, the rat was on his back. He didn't notice. He jumped over him. So he tricked everyone and got first in the race.

Really? Sounds like another one. Sounds like the tortoise and the hare. Oh, I guess he didn't do it. He didn't trick him. That's Coco Madero. Yeah. Okay, yeah. I like that. Okay. I really, really like that. Interesting. Well, there you go, Rodent Man. I think they're all gorgeous. Like, I have a weird infatuation with them at the moment. Yeah. And also, like, it really is not that bad. They're all, like, you know, skinny or ripped. It's not like, you know, we have, like, the trauma of being compared to a lot of, like, unflattering people.

Yeah, like a whale. Creatures, like whales, elephants, pigs, all that. So, like, you're doing okay to be, like, you know, a little bit. I think a Tonka truck was one. Someone, I think that was, like. Tonka truck. Yeah, I think that was a hater name on Twitter. Something, someone was calling me Tonka. I was like, okay, well. See, like, we've gone through the gambit. So, like, if you're being called a rodent man, like, you can take it. Yeah. We've been called much worse. We love, right. The rodent man.

are here to stay. And you look, I can't believe you shaved for this cosplay. I was shook when you came downstairs because he's very adamant about not shaving. He hates the way he looks with the shaved face. I love it. Your mother loves it. We got to call her and tell her. It looks so good. Honestly, I only did it because I knew you'll be happy. You look so handsome. I saw you. I was like, oh my God, you look so, like my, I literally like gagged a little because we've been watching Bridgerton all weekend and I was kind of gagged a little bit and you gagged him. And yeah, we are Barry Hogan, Stuart Carpenter. I really just want to do the photos. Um,

and that's what we did. Oh, we did TikToks for Fashion Nova too. I'm not sponsored by Fashion Nova on the podcast, just my TikToks, which they would. I feel like they know I'm going to talk about them anyways on the podcast. Because I gave them my rates for the podcast, and like, oh, we'll just do TikToks, but they know I'm going to talk about them every freaking episode.

It's important because, you know, the podcast, we tell you when there's sponsors on the episode. Right, right. There's actually no sponsorship. We were supposed to have a sponsor. It hasn't come in yet. We had a sponsor today, but they haven't come in yet, so we're pushing it. What is the green card? Like I see. Oh, gosh, that's definitely not our sponsor. Thank you for that. We'll get to that later. Oh, now I'm reading this. Okay.

Anyways, I don't even need to read it because it's not even important. This is important though. Patreon.com. It's chaotic. It's chaotic. You guys, we're filming a day early and every time I don't get like a weekend, like a Sunday or Saturday. If we film early, everything's off. I'm a worker on a Monday and a Monday only. You know what I mean? I work one day a week and that's Monday. And if it's not a Monday, forget it. And today has been chaos all morning.

And we should have our own reality show, honestly. Today would have been that one in my Sabrina Carpenter cosplay. Just doing the most. Just doing a lot. And sweating and stuff. With two kids, everything's just harder. But anyways, we got it done. Patreon.com.

Patreon.com slash justtrish is our sponsor today. It's not a sponsor. We're not getting paid. Well, we get paid on Patreon. You're the Patreon. You're the patrons. You're the sponsor. You are the sponsor. We belong to you. But we're not doing paid promotion because we're not getting paid to talk about Patreon, you know? One time Poshmark paid me to talk about Poshmark, but I never did again because I was like, well, they just go to my Poshmark anyways. What is your Poshmark? Poshmark should be 88, but not sponsored. But go to there too. Shout out my mom for doing the Poshmark. Anyways, Patreon.com slash justtrish, you guys. Okay, first of all,

Okay, there's don't. Okay, perks. We'll start with perks because Moses has it ready to go. I'm proud of you. Rainbow Birkin Bag is our headshot of the month.

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A couple years ago, but still holds up. Still iconic. It is iconic, yes. You know, we love it. The hand heart emoji. It's just crushing. It's huge. Look how big that sticker is compared to the other ones. It's a huge one. Collect them all. And a lot of people have said they've regretted not signing up for these tiers. Like, I wish I would have collected them all. Because once they're gone, they're gone. We're not bringing them back. We might stop after a year. We might keep going. We don't know. But it might end at a year. So if you want to collect them all, maybe we'll keep going. I like it. But who knows? Anyways. And then if you are... This is my personal favorite. Yeah. So for our producers...

We have a year and our 100th episode coming up. You're going to get a notebook. A just Trish notebook. No way. I love Oscars. I can't imagine everyone reacting at home. Oh my God. That's everything. This would be my sketchbook. I would be all day sketching and getting inspired.

- That's how I knew it was good when Moses said it is, 'cause usually he just comes in, he's like, "What is this?" And so much of this came in. We have like 200 of these. He's like, "What?" And then he's like, "That looks good." So yeah, there is the inside. It says Just Trish. Show the back of it. Not the back back, but the back cover. Do you know what I mean? Inside the back. Yeah. Okay, got a little Just Trish.

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i will figure it out i'm sure i don't know it sounds complicated but if you're a patreon or producer you're going to just get that as your 100 here plus the handwritten note from me plus your name in the credits and um yeah it's a good time everybody if i was a student this would be the biggest flex yeah to be like i want someone like at law school to like bring that in like a hard version okay that'd be a really big one but um do they use notebooks at harvard law

I guess Elle Woods did. She had her little heart one. With like the fuzzy pants. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. Okay, so me too. This is where I would put my stickers. This is where I would put all my poetry and notes and things. Why don't you do that? Why don't you make a little book like Courtney did for Travis? You know, just make a little book of everything and piece it all together. I'm not going to scrap books. We should have had our Polaroid today because they took a Polaroid, Barry and Sabrina, on the set and we should have had our Polaroid. I meant to do that yesterday and I didn't. We'll print it as a Polaroid. Nah, but we have a Polaroid.

I'm so mad. We did so much. I mean, we did. We actually had the car from. The video. Yes. The actual car. Because that was the only thing that made it a cosplay, really. Otherwise, I just look like the mob wife and Moses with the shaved face, you know? We had to have the Dodge. It was a Dodge. I put it on my story. Shout out to the guy, one of our friends, Jesse, he has like a whole car detailing service. He's really amazing. And he's just like, 1978 Dodge Magnum. I was like, boom. Found it from the same people who got us the car from the Idol. Shout out.

Paramount Picture Cars, I think, is who they are. Shout out to them. They're on it. If you need a car, they're going to find it for you. And they made it work. They bought a flatbed. And everything was very complicated this morning. I made it way too complicated than it had to be. But the wig is secure today. Anyways, okay.

It's a lot of dedication. I pull up to the driveway. The car is like blocking the whole thing. It's like Moses was like, sorry, I almost got run over by the car. I was like, it's okay. I'm like, yeah. You almost got run over? No, poor Moses. Oh, because it was rolling back? Yes. Well, that's a whole other thing. It was, oh, is that what it is? Yeah. But yeah, no, before you came down, we were positioning the car and it's up on the driveway and these cars are heavy and...

and he puts the brake on and lets go and I'm at the door, the door is open, I'm by the door and the car just starts rolling back. - What? - So I quickly jumped and moved the door but then the door, I saw it was about to swing, his leg was out and just crushed his leg so I caught the door. - Oh my God. - And Isaiah was like, "I would have just run away." So I jumped to the side and then held the door so it won't crush his leg.

And then I brought the kind of blocks and stuff. Is this on our security camera, you think? I wonder if you caught it. Oh, the gate camera, yeah. There's a couple because there's one facing there and then we should look. Oh, my God. This is why I want more cameras. I want to see all angles of everything happening because- That's why we need this show. They'll film everything. And that's true. Babe, you need to be careful. If something happens to you, what are we going to do? That should be a reality show. The show, the family, what? Ring. It's all Ring cameras. Okay, not sponsored by Ring. No, but they should. Okay.

Bring in Mrs. Vicks. I'm impressed. But don't do that. I hate when you put yourself in danger because we need you. I didn't. That was the situation. But yeah, but then you jumped in to save a leg. You gotta save a leg. Babe, I mean, wow, impressive. You save one leg, it's like you save the whole world.

Sabrina, you see the dedication going on over here. It was dedication. Let's get a comment on this one, Sabrina. For the love of God. I know. I feel like, but Sabrina and Ariana probably, and I get it. They probably don't want to. Yeah, we've been a little, I've been a little like side-eye. But I also think they know, because I did see an analysis of Please Be Please, where they're like, I feel like this is Sabrina telling us, I know, guys. I know what everyone's saying. And then that's why she wrote the song. Because if something ends badly and he's like, screw up with her, she'll be like, I wrote the song because of this. But if it doesn't, it's like a warning. It's like,

Watch it. Watch it. Because if you embarrass me, like everyone's going to know. Like I, you know, I knew before he knew. Anyways, I get it. I love it. Shout out Isaiah to our photographer. Very biblical today. Isaiah and Moses. Is Oscar in the Bible? I don't think so. Oh, okay. It sounds kind of like it could be. It sounds like it could be, right? Oscar? Yeah. Yeah, shout out Isaiah too for helping because Moses was getting, it was chaos this morning. I said I was getting, everything was crazy. And then Isaiah went and helped and just guys just,

Guys just – this is when I just love guys because I'm like guys just know how to handle things because I definitely can't. Moses was – there was another crisis happening and Isaiah was here and then Isaiah was able to handle the car and I was like, oh, thank you. I just – I can't handle situations that go awry. Are you good at it? I think it depends. Usually, yeah. I feel like –

I feel like I'm usually calm under pressure like that. Surprisingly. Yeah? I can see it. I see it. Yeah. Yeah. I don't think I've ever had a freak out kind of moment where I didn't know what to do. Oh, wow. There's stuff where it's like maybe I don't want to deal with this. And then I ask taxes. I'm like, I don't want to deal with taxes. Oh, well, yeah. No. That's too smart for me. Also, yeah, you could go to jail if you don't do them right. You know what I mean? Yeah. That's what always scared me. I'm like, I don't want turbo tax. I'll end up in prison like this.

are the Chrisleys? Like, you know what I mean? Like, I always wonder that not to whatever, but I'm always like, what happened? Like, why didn't you have an accountant or did they? I don't know. Usually with like tax stuff, I feel like it's purposeful to like to avoid certain charges like they didn't. Oh,

Oh, my God. I'm scared to say. I feel like Abby Lee, when she went to jail, was in it for something with tax. And Mike, the situation. An offshore account or something. I don't know. Something like that, I think. Wait, what? I don't know. Maybe. So they're actually like. That's what I'm saying. Are they actively trying to evade taxes? Or are they like, I just didn't. Because, you know, it is complicated. But I'm like, well, I mean, I try to look at them. The best I can have an account in full time, like business and everything. But it's like, what if you miss something? What if you, you know. I know. Or what if you can't write off? What if I write off this jacket? And they're like, well, actually, I saw you wear it. Not just. Look, I.

only wear it for the podcast and then I'm done so that's why I was like I can write it off but what if they're like no I actually saw you wear that to dinner which I don't and you know this anyone can attest to this as soon as I wear it I'm like posh mark you know what I mean

Can you write it off if you sell it on Poshmark? I don't know. I pay taxes on Poshmark. So it's freaking confusing. So when Mike's situation goes to prison, I'm just like, well, what the hell happened? And that is scary. Usually there was intent. It was like, they basically, it's like stealing. Yeah, there was intent. You think they knew? But what if it's a Schitt's Creek situation where they're like, I didn't know. I wasn't paying taxes. No, but people go further. They'll make fake companies, fake universities. Like they'll...

There was intent because I mean it's fine if you you know you make a mistake IRS come they fix it they tell you oh you ask more and then you pay them more and it's fine you don't go to jail. Oh.

They're like, no, I don't. But if they find out that you've been scamming them, that's a different story altogether. I overpaid last year, right? Wow. I got a check back. Okay, flex. I know. Well, my dad has someone, they do it together. I don't even go in. My dad just does it with a guy and then I sign it. I don't know. That's what I'm saying, so you don't know. No, I really don't know. Yeah, yeah. But so far, so good. I mean, if I overpaid, I think they're like...

they sent the money back right right oh yeah yeah oh damn i always feel like we overpaid one time but then they're probably just like yeah just keep it i don't know because sometimes i think we do i don't know it feels like we do i'd be paying taxes every month they roll it for the next year they just because we let's say you file an extension then they just they just kind of roll it around that it's like it's already here we're gonna take it yeah literally i never heard of someone giving it back once it's out of my account i'm like well i guess that's everything what a flex

Taxes are crazy. And on Bridgerton this week, they had an IRS man. Did you watch it to that point? I don't. I'm only on like episode three. I did not get that far. Spoiler. Well, it's not even a spoiler. An IRS man comes for the mom. Oh, OK. No, in general, we're going to talk about Bridgerton in general. Let me finish my Patreon shout out. Oh, yeah. Because we have a really good one to Patreon.com slash just Trish. Not only do you have those high tiers, which are like the perks, the VIPs. That's if you're like a Trish stan. You're like, I need the stickers. I need the headshots and everything. But if you're just like, uh,

I'll give a cute $5. That's like the price of coffee or something. I mean, look, you don't have to get $5. But if you want, if you want, we do extended podcasts over there. And then we have another tier. They're like, we call our bottoms. But the tops, I guess, are in the bottoms too. But the bottoms, they also get like a bonus one. And our bonus video goes up every set. Wait, did it go up? Yes, yesterday. You should get a little notification that's like, share this clip. Okay. Okay. Anyway.

Okay, anyway, it doesn't matter. It's either Saturday or Sunday. But we did... Was it Dramageddon or what'd you post? Yes, Dramageddon 2, part 3. Dramageddon 2, part 3, which is wild. You guys, the Dramageddon series, it's so good. It really is, like, it's iconic content, I have to say. It's top tier. We need Tati Westbrook on this podcast. That's our new goal, yes. Tati is in LA. I think she might still be in LA. I don't know. So, Tati, this is a message. Oscar doesn't want to reach out to her. I'm scared. I was like, he's like, you reach out. I was like...

No. You reach out. You're the journalist. You're the one with the degree. You're the one with the background. You're the producer. We are mutual. She is my oomphie. Yes, she follows you. She doesn't follow me. And I'm like, what?

Do you think she jokes about Dramageddon? Do you think she laughs about it now? That's a good question. I really don't know. Like, you know, James Charles, we always see having a laugh. Oh, he does? Yeah, he's always like, you did it at my birthday dinner. He loves that little quote. Oh, I wonder if she does. Exactly. I wonder if she's on the same page. I feel like she was the most traumatized by it.

I think, you know, so. Yes, that's what we discovered. Because at the end of it, okay, look, like I was saying in our, I'll give you a little snippet of what I said on our Patreon. It was like an hour and a half long video. It's a very long video. But I was just very much like,

Like, you know she's definitely having a breakdown. And it's so sad to see someone, like, spiral and have an actual mental breakdown, like, online, like, in front of you. Like, she is just all over the place and spiraling quickly. And I was like, this is actually kind of sad to watch. But we lack the sympathy because she kind of – no, she definitely did start it. She definitely made false accusations and really serious ones. She kind of went back and gaslit us all. I was like, I didn't really say you were a predator, but I said it without saying it. Like, it's like I kind of don't have that sympathy for her in that sense other than, like, the mental breakdown part is really sad. But –

She did start it. And not only did she start it, she kind of like did the second video. And then it's like, and then James tried to reach out to her and she was saying, so it's like, you kind of started it. But a mental breakdown is still very sad. And I would like to talk to her. Because you know me, I'm not hard.

I'm not hard hitting. I'm not going to be here and be like, girl, you stupid as hell. You know what I mean? But that was a better word than stupid. I think. Yeah, you're right. That was a good video. I was, I was very in line with my 2020 self. Yes. That's our part four is reacting to Tricia's Tachi dumb as hell video. Separate video. Yeah. Okay. That's coming. That's coming soon. Um,

So when I was watching that, I was kind of like, oh, I got a slade. I mean, it definitely looked like I was on meth because I had scabs all over my legs and my face. And I definitely – that's when we met and knew each other. And I was like, God, I really did glow up for you. Because people are like, oh, you know, like you don't want to let yourself go after you get married and have a baby. I'm like, I look much better now. I'm like – I present myself so much better than when we met. So I actually grew up from them. But I was looking at that because it was June 2020 and I was like, hmm, I looked busted. That's when Moses fell in love with me. He's like, I love those scabs on your legs. What did you think they were? Were you just like –

Maybe you're very active, like scraping your knee playing sports or something. And then picking them all the time. We used to go into the pool a lot that time. And I remember that your pool guy used lots of chlorine or something. So I thought maybe, because we would get itchy after the pool, like if we were not showering. Oh, did you? Yeah, if we wouldn't like immediately shower, we would get so itchy at night.

I don't know. It's just chlorine, but yeah. You think that's what my scabs were on my legs? Maybe. They were on my arms. They were everywhere. But why was no one else getting scabs? But it's more, you know, you just have the tendency. So, like, you used to have those nails, and they were, like, sharp. I loved digging into my scabs. Yeah. So, it's not so much what caused it. It's, like, you're digging into them. Mm-hmm.

But why was I digging? Like, I was like scratching myself, like digging like nonstop. I don't know. Maybe. Anyways. What a whirlwind that was. It was a whirlwind. It's crazy. Very anticlimactic because she's very in the video. She's very, what's the word? Like, oh, legal. I legally can't say this yet. It sounds like something is coming. Yeah. But nothing ever came. All the lawyers. Right. Spoiler alert. Nothing came. She's like, all the lawyers have this. You know, when I can speak on it, I will. And then literally at

Nothing happened. I asked her, I was like, so what happened? Nothing. I was like, so is this the end? She's like, that's the end. That's the end, yeah. No one ever talked about it again. We thought there was going to be a big lawsuit or something because that was kind of what was implied that the next time you would hear about it, it would be through legal counsel or something, but nothing ever... Like the Jeff and David, you see the paperwork. Yeah, it's on the court schedule, but nothing was ever on the court schedule for a Tati, Shane, Jeffrey situation. No. Maybe they...

or something outside of court, but we never, like, got any of that information. So I don't know. Yeah, I feel like mediation usually comes, like, after someone files a lawsuit, right? True, yeah. And then they try to work it out. And I don't think there were... I never saw paperwork that, like, anything was actually, like, filed per se. So maybe that was just, like, her way of, like, scaring them. I don't know. Yeah, and everyone's just like, no one does anything anyways. Yeah. I think everyone just retreated. I think they all...

Scared. That's true. They're always scared themselves from themselves. Well, Shane kind of laughed. He said he kind of took a break. Shane was already, like, done at that. Like, he was pretty much, like... Like, he posted his apology from, like, all the, like...

baby jokes and, like, racist stuff. Like, he had already posted his apology, like, I think five days before Tati's video. Oh. So he was already kind of, like, going through it and, like, bowing out. Yeah. Because it was, like, the summer of cancellations. It was, like, Jenna Marbles canceled herself. Like, shame is getting canceled. Jeffrey was going through it, too. And then Tati swept in and was, like... This is the time. Yeah. They're weak. Yeah.

And I wrote a beautiful historical summary on the Patreon too. Did you? I didn't see it. I love your summaries. I get so swept up into it. It's like a true crime article. Wow. You got Mrs. Whistlebone here. Yeah. It is Lady Whistlebone. 100%. It's like six paragraphs long. It's like MLA format.

It's really giving like collegiate. Yeah. And it's like, and then one paragraph I was like, Tati, it was a kamikaze act. Tati loaded two, loaded her gun with two bullets in the chamber. One for Shane, one for Jeffrey. I was like really going through it. Metaphorically. Wow, that's kind of everything. Do you write? Yeah.

Um, I was gonna minor in English, but then I only majored in journalism. But I had to do a lot of writing for journalism. But you don't have, like, aspirations to do, like, a book or movie or screenplays? No, I don't think so. Like, I used to write a lot of articles, like, before I switched, like, only video. Like, I would write, like, reviews and stuff, so. That's why you're so good at your notes, too. Like, they're so detailed and so...

I had no idea. I love writers. I consider myself somewhat of a writer. I feel like that's one thing I always excelled in in school too. Like my teacher from like an early age from like 10 was like – they literally thought I like plagiarized when I was like 9 and 10 because they're just like, how do you know these words? Like I would like – I don't know. And I don't even know. I guess I like watch TV or something. I never plagiarized. Maybe because you're a fast reader. Maybe like you just pick up so many words. Zoom it all.

that's true because when I do read fast I do like know what I'm reading people always say that so maybe that's it I don't know I've always been a very good writer I mean my books are grammatically sometimes not the greatest but it's also because like I'm not great at grammar but I feel like I'm a pretty good writer but you're a very good writer because that was beautiful and I love it I just love writers I think writers are so talented yeah it's fun too like I really got into it like I really do channel it's like murder she bro it's like lady whistle down that's kind of the vibe I'm kind of giving over there you are so smart you are actually you really

I was going to tell you that. You're actually very smart. The way you come up with titles and thumbnails. I do feel like that's why our podcast is very successful and different from other people. Sometimes I look at other people's titles and thumbnails and I'm like, oh, really? Not to go. Don't look at my channel. Don't go look at Blonde Thumbel Form J because those titles and thumbnails have zero attraction. They get 10,000 views. But you are very good at it. You're very smart. You know what's up. Our pre-briefing is...

briefing is it pre-briefing or just briefing I think just briefing just a brief yeah a brief before the show it's just like okay this is what I'm thinking for titles like Oscars and I'm like oh that's good that's good yeah yeah so we gotta have the things to hit and speaking of Shane Dawson boom title next there we go no Shane is a big part in this drama which is like so crazy because we I talk a lot about it in there too it's because like

I guess we just weren't like super close at this point. But like I didn't know that side about him at all. And I do believe Tati in a lot of it where it's just like he talks about James Charles. But like I never once heard him talk about James Charles. Again, granted we weren't like super close during that time. So maybe it was like a new enemy he had. But in general, when we would like gossip about people, it wasn't like hatred. Like it wasn't like jealousy. It was just like a key, like Strawberry 17. It was just like fun. It wasn't like, oh my God, this annoying girl. You know, it was just like, oh, it's key. We're not going to like –

take her down or anything. Yeah. The only thing I can think of is like maybe because like if Chan and Jeffrey had like really like they went into that friendship with like the intentions of like using her as like the That's so weird though. The bullet at James Charles like maybe that's why with her maybe it was more like

Oh, intentional? This information they gave her was very intentional. That's the only thing I can really think of. But was she that close with James? I guess I don't know. She was really close with James. I mean, he did her makeup at her freaking wedding. Which is crazy. 17? Yeah. Or 18? I don't know. One of those. He was a teenager, but...

So, again, weird. Like, I don't know. Like, even having a teenager that you're not, like, there was a teenager that did my makeup one time. His name was Sam Vester. I think he's a really big makeup artist now. He did Kris Jenner when he was 16. That's, like, his notorious thing. And he did her frequently. He was really good. And I think I met him maybe when he was, like, 17. But I thought it was, like, I always just felt weird, like, employing a minor. Do you know what I mean? Like, I mean, I'm sure, I don't know how it works with freelance. But I only used him a few times. I was like, I don't know. It's kind of weird. Like, I was only

I was only like 24, but it's still kind of like weird because I'm like, oh, it's like a minor. Yeah. I don't know how that works with like labor laws. I guess in California you can work at 16, right? Oh, you can? I have no idea. I believe because like in high school, I remember like some people had jobs and stuff already, like, you know, the grocery store or something. Oh, really? Yeah. So I think you could start working at like 16. I think Illinois, it's like 12. Really? You can like shuck corn at 12, maybe like 10. I remember people would go like shuck corn for real, like at 10, like with the farms and they'd pay like $50 for the day or something, which is kind of a lot.

And it was their summer job and they would just go shuck some corn. What was it like an official job? It was like under the table. No, it was like advertised in the newspaper. Because of the farming, they have different laws. Maybe. I don't know. But yeah, I don't know. I feel like where I grew up, there was like no laws. I feel like people were just, you know what I mean? Like cousins would date each other and not like in a weird, I'm not being shady. That's just like what it was. And I was just like, maybe the laws, is there a law you can't date your cousin? Yeah.

I think there's incest laws. It's a law of nature. But can you go to jail? I think so. I think there's incest laws. I think. Yeah. Well, I guess it depends state to state, but. That's what I'm saying. I wonder. I don't know about over there. Yeah. I feel like. Okay. I feel like. Yeah. I don't know. I don't want to get in trouble. But not me. I didn't do anything. I'm just saying I don't want to get in trouble with any of the states. I don't want to. I was going to say Georgia or something. And I was like, I don't know. Like.

Maybe at one point Georgia said it was okay. Actually, I know it was okay to get married to your cousin because Jerry Lee Lewis married his cousin in the state of Tennessee when he was 21 and she was 13. Whoa. Yeah, and it was his cousin. It's actually his cousin's daughter, so. Still, yeah. It's like second cousin. Yeah. I mean, I guess that makes sense because even like, you know, the law,

the age of consent is different from state to state too. Like, I think Pennsylvania is 16. I remember because this is so specific and like random, but if you were like a pretty little lives girl, you know, like the girl was 16 and the teacher was obviously like an adult, but it was set in Pennsylvania. So it was legal. And that was like the whole, that was how they justified it.

Because if it was in California, it would be illegal. Yeah. There was allegedly a certain YouTuber, allegedly, that would go up to Washington to see girls because it was 17 there or something. And I think he ended up moving there. But that's all alleged. It was on a documentary I watched. There was a three-part docuseries on him. I was like, that's crazy. There are a lot of documentaries. I think we talked about this last week on The Extended, I think. Oh, yeah. But there's so many. And I want to like – Did you watch? I watched Ashley Madison. Did you watch it? I didn't watch it yet. No. I'm like so behind on –

It's all because of Young Sheldon. I'm behind on everything, by the way. Stop Young Sheldon. I'm my favorite show, Young Sheldon. There's no way that show's good. There's no way. I think you're getting paid. I think Oscar's getting under the table sponsorship for Young Sheldon because there's no way. I've never heard anyone say they like that show.

I mean, it's fine. Get your bag, but. Oh, my God. I wish. I really do wish. And I mean, I guess in transparency, I do work for the same corporation, I guess. Ah, there it is. ET's like, make sure you mention it in the show. CBS. It's like a wink. Viacom, whatever. So much flex today. You work at CBS. You overpay your taxes. I was like, damn, you really got it together, Oscar. Good job. Oh, my God.

Just chronically employed, I guess. I mean, that's great because I think most people are chronically unemployed. That's true. Or have like that, the chronically unemployed attitude. You know what I mean? Like, or jobless like attitude. The influencers. Yeah. I feel like they like, not to whatever, not to be shady, but the young influencers definitely never had to work like, I kept saying that in mine too. I was just like, I was giving $5, whatever. I kept saying that in the video and I was like, just to prove that I was like a hard worker where I suppose like, I feel like,

not that young influencers aren't hard workers. They just don't know the equivalent of like making $68 a day versus making $4,000 in one hour. Yeah, like that one, I forget who it was. It was like that one TikToker. It was like someone's boyfriend that complained about like making $4,000. That's exactly it. Yeah, it's like that kind of mentality. I'm just like, I get it. But at the same time, like you don't get it. Like, you know, because it's awful. And luckily minimum wage is raised now. But like it's still hard out there. Yeah, for sure. You know, being on your feet and all that stuff. It's whatever. But yeah.

Shout out to the chronically employed. Honestly, whatever. I don't care. Teach their own. Shout out Young Sheldon. Not Young Sheldon. No. No Young Sheldon. Shout out. It really has set me behind on everything. I'm behind on all the shows, on all the movies.

Because I want to watch that, the TikTok one on Netflix, Ashley Madison one. Yeah, we didn't watch it. There's another one on like Max. I think it's like the mean, it's about the mean girl murders. I don't even know what it's about, but it looks. Okay. It was like true crime in pink. I was like, that looks interesting. Wow. Okay. Yeah. It'll be like the summer of documentaries maybe. I like, I like them. I watch them like, because Moses does not like documentaries. And so I watched Ashley. Do you like them?

Yeah. No, we never watched them together. I feel like, oh, I want to watch this or something. And you're like, no. I feel like there's so many. Well, maybe it depends on the subject. Depends on the subject. He'll come down. Because he'll put Malibu Dress. So I'm with Elvis or whatever. And he'll come down. It's like, Ashton, it's like, so then I wanted to cheat on my wife. And this is how I did it. And all that stuff. So Ashton Madison one's wild. Because it also involves YouTubers. Do you remember Sam and Nia? Yeah. They're on there. Really? So I guess he, like, I can't remember.

remember it happening he got exposed so like when they all got exposed not to whatever spoil it but that was a wild one because he was on Ashley Madison before their YouTube fame and then once they got popular on YouTube with that frozen they were doing like frozen lip sync or something he was like that started to be his excitement because he was going on the Ashley Madison to cheat and talk to girls because he wanted excitement in his life and then once that happened he's like oh I don't need Ashley Madison anymore but he was already on there and he used his real name his picture I was like you dumbass oh no like why did

do that and he had kids at the time I was like why would you use your real name and picture on there that's crazy are they like in the documentary too like oh they're actually speaking yeah they're separate though they're like separate giving yeah it's it's so interesting they look the same they both look good they got married like at 20 I don't know something but it's it's yeah that's a good one and even like they have like the CEOs of action because I don't really like documentaries maybe I was projecting I don't really like documentaries that much but this is good I don't know this one's good I like I watched a couple of them but yeah I had like the people the marketing behind it and how they marketed it

I want to see the Brandy Melville one, too. That was another one that was supposed to be, like, really popular. That kind of seemed to die down quickly, though. I think so, too. But I'm just intrigued. Anything about, like, skinny culture, I guess I'm just intrigued by. Skinny everything. You said I was skinny today, and now I feel so skinny. Yeah, I saw you walking up the driveway from the car, and I was like, wait, who is that? Because, yeah, you look so teeny. Like, your waist was, like, so, like, small. Wow, I don't even have a corset on.

I don't even know. Me too. So you came out, we were all down and we're looking up and I see somebody in like short shorts and I was like, what's going on over there? Oh, wow. Do you thought it was someone else or what? This looks really good. Thank you. I actually have been wearing, I don't know what they're called. My glam team calls them fajas. Do you know what a faja is? I think it's like, I don't know what they're called. Like the thing when I walk. It's my little faja. It's my...

I mean, it's kind of, you know, you'll see people that lift a lot of heavy weights at work wear them. Oh, like the waist trainer? Yeah. That's what I was thinking. Where it's like stretches. I wear them on our walks because like when I was pregnant, this last time, this part didn't go down. So Moses does it so tight where I was like, like it literally, it literally made a second cut into my thing because I was like, is that my waist?

my c-section or is that like a stab because the thing was so tight anyways we loosened it up a little bit but i was wearing it so tight on our walks and i really do feel like it's cinched to my waist up i just wear it for the walks i don't wear it every day that seems like a lot but yeah who was it um oh my god who was it someone you interviewed here um one of the tiktokers who was it that was like when i was little i would wear like a waistband all the time i forget who it was oh my gosh

I don't know. It was, oh my God, why am I forgetting his name? The boy, boy beauty guru. Oh, Douse. Douse, yes. Oh, his is crazy and his waist is like, woo. He was like growing up, I'd wear a waist trainer every day or whatever. I'm like, damn. Interesting. Have you ever worn it? Because I feel like it's a Hispanic thing too. My people told me it's like that. My mom did, for sure. They say a lot of women, after they give birth, a lot of Hispanic women wear, or just in general, to get that waist and stuff. Honestly, they're not.

really good and I love it and I think that's why they have great waist I'm like maybe I should start doing that I think Kim Kardashian like infamously like she does yeah they're really great everyone should wear them honestly I mean they're like uncomfortable on the day to day I don't want to like eat with one actually I should eat with one on because then you're just like I can't breathe I mean this could be like a myth I thought like if you wear them too much it's bad because like they shift your organs or something

They definitely do. Yeah. So I guess I think you're wearing an inappropriate amount. I see. Yeah. Because I feel like that with pregnancy your organs go up so I feel like they're shifting them back down is what I think because this is not as like big so but then you were saying that and I was eating a bag of chips I was like maybe I should stop eating chips because now I'm like I'm skinny so I need to stay skinny and I only had a grapefruit last night. I forgot. I was going to wait

going to weigh myself this morning because I only had a grapefruit last night and I was like, ooh, I'm going to be so skinny in the morning and I forgot. It's fine. Whatever. You're still skinny. You'll weigh up. I'm still skinny. No, that's not true. If I weigh myself now after chips and like the day's gone on, it's going to be heavier. Like it's going to be a heavier weight. That's like the tiniest bag of chips ever. No, you get bigger throughout the day. A couple of grams. Maybe after the big project we have we can order a pizza. I'm trying to be skinny for a big project. I didn't even tell you. I gave you a little hint but I didn't tell you. But I hope it's still happening. I also don't say it because I'm like maybe it's not but we're filming early Hot Topics because like we'll be filming something exciting.

exciting and it's like a mainstream thing and I'm so excited. I hope it's happening. I don't know. I think it is. We were talking before you came in and Oscar's like they sent out the call sheets like the night before like last minute so I just texted again. I'm like do you have a rough time when I'm supposed to be there because I need to know. You know what I mean? But anyways I'm trying to be skinny for that even though like it doesn't really matter but

You reminded me, since we're still talking about Patreon, an hour later. Is this your hot topic? Is it an hour? There's always a question that people ask. When you join, you do get access to all the videos that were posted from the beginning. So I don't know how many videos are there. Probably over 50. Oh, yeah. So yeah, so you do get access to all the videos that are there. That's actually why I put my Patreon in the first place. Because this is my Patreon, the same one I had back

then because I was posting all my videos on Vimeo but this is back the 18 plus now Patreon my Patreon's all ages and we cleaned all everything up so it's not anything but I used to have like an 18 plus one and so I'd post on Vimeo stuff I couldn't post on YouTube but then Vimeo started blocking that content so basically all my videos were just like removed anyways I kind of like was like oh man I gotta start all over again because it was cool like I had two years of back catalog that if you joined Patreon you could see all those two years of videos um and then when it was all done I was like okay well let's just forget about it but yeah you can see all the backlog they're there

Do you upload it straight to Patreon? Is that how you upload it? Yeah, straight to Patreon. Oh, I feel like that's a new feature. I feel like they didn't have that five years ago. It's new. It is. Okay. I think within like maybe the last year or so they rolled it out. Yeah. Before you had to upload it somewhere else and like embed it or whatever. But it kind of makes it easier because then it's just like all in the app and you put a little thumbnail. It's really cute. Yeah. You always do a good job. I'm like, oh, yay. So it's all there. That's a good one. Was that your hot topic? Yeah.

I was like, I have a hot topic. I have one card of hot topics. So if you're wondering why I'm chatting so much, it's because I have one card and Asher's like, I have one card too. My hot topic, it was so Harvard professors put out an article and then they quickly took it down that they think that there's definitely aliens on Earth. And they were trying to explain what they think they are. So they're either...

They think they've been here for a long time and they're either they live in the oceans or on the ground or maybe on the moon. Well, I think they're definitely living in the moon. Isn't that the whole point of an alien? They were trying to narrow it down to what actually is happening. That's not narrowing it down to be like the ocean, the earth or the moon. Well, yeah, probably they live somewhere. Well, yes. Well, yes.

They were even acknowledging the existence of like elves and fairies and things. Okay, well. It's been really interesting. That's probably why they took it down. Someone was definitely on drugs writing that article. That's wild. That's actually going crazy. No, but they think that if you have a really advanced technology, then to us it looks like magic, you know? So that's the idea. There are things that seem fantastical, but basically they're just very...

That'd be cool. I mean, if that was true, if there was fairies amongst us. They think they walk among us. Yeah, maybe they're too little to see, you know? Like, isn't it just like a glimmer of light? Isn't Tinkerbell like just a little like light that goes around? Yeah, like a little firefly or something. Yeah, that's probably what it is.

I personally always thought that aliens will be in a microscopical level. Oh, no. Because inside of us, there's like trillions of cells. And that's really the cells that are alive, you know. Right. We're kind of like a bigger entity. But those are like in trees and plants and all that. So I always thought if aliens reach here, they'll be a size of a single cell. And they'll be inside of your body and, you know, something much more smaller. Yeah.

I think aliens are our size. I think I did see an alien. Did I talk about this? Yeah, I talked about it. I definitely saw an alien and I think it was just like the size of a child. Was it like a child alien or just like an adult? Well, that's the tea. I don't know. If it was a child alien, get out of my house. Are you under 18? I should have checked the age. Age check. Oh my God, I had a child alien in my house. That would be wild actually. Damn.

- I don't know, that's a good question to ask. - Good question. - Probably things we need to know, just not harboring a child in my house. - Was it like the grays, the ones that-- - Yeah, the gray one. Did I tell you this? I feel like I told you. - Kind of. - Yeah, I saw a little alien one time. I kinda don't remember. Honestly, I don't remember and I really do think it's like the Men in Black effect where it's like they erase your memory. - Oh, geez. - 'Cause I have a faint memory. That's why, again, I feel like when people are like, okay, sometimes I do lie, but sometimes I actually genuinely am like, but I feel like that happened but I can't remember the details.

Maybe disassociating. Maybe men in black. I don't know what it is, but something where I'm just like, I feel like that definitely did happen. Because there are some times I have stories, like the dog story. That one I feel like definitely happened. Like I can remember it vividly. But the alien one is like a little more like washed, you know, a little more...

Fuzzy. Was the vampire one, was that like a fuzzy one too? That was real. Okay. Fuzzy. Fuzzy though. And on drugs on that one. But I do think, I tell you what, I feel like my tampons really did disappear. So this was during the, okay, he always tells me to throw my tampons in the trash and I like to flush them down for this reason. I used to throw my tampons in the trash and the tampons would actually go missing for real.

- Did you have a dog or a roommate that had a dog or something? - Babe, how long have you known me for? You think I've ever had a dog? I tell you every minute of my life. Do you think I've ever? - Well, I don't know what period of time that was. - Babe, I never had a dog. I told you, I got a dog once and I gave it to my mom the next day 'cause I didn't know what to do with it. I always tell this story. - There must have been some. - No. - 'Cause I remember once I lived with a roommate and the dog would always go through the trash and tear them apart all over the house. It was like a crime scene. - The tampons? Did you live with a girl? I did not know this. You had a girl roommate?

I have roommates. Okay, wow. When I was in college, we had a lot of roommates. Oh, look at you. I see. Now I can see. This is a whole new topic unfolding this. I feel like a Rewind Our Father's Day episode. I thought you didn't live with a girl before. In college, roommates? We had lots of roommates. All right, well, we'll just leave it at that. We will leave it at that. Not like one-on-one. Like four or five people living in a room. Yeah, in college. I think this is a whole different show. Wow.

I could almost cross my legs. So wait, they would actually disappear? They would actually disappear. So something took them. This was the time that the vlog squad would just like randomly break into my house and film me. So maybe they took them. Oh, wow. Because you imagine they just try to make me crazy. Be like, we're going to take the tampons. I could actually imagine that fully. Because I feel like there's so many times when like I would come back and like Zane would be like in my bedroom hiding or something. I'm like, how did they do that? Wait, did you have a housekeeper you know that was cleaning the house? No.

No, I had a housekeeper that I would like just stay with because it wasn't like we have now where we have like a regular housekeeper. I had like different people always come cleaning and I would just sit in the house, which is like super awkward to just sit in the house and watch people clean. Yeah. That's awkward. But like what else are you supposed to do, I guess? I know. Leave. But then it's like you don't know. We have like someone we know now we trust, but it's like, I don't know, like –

Yeah, I usually, whenever I've had, like, someone clean, I would, like, sit in, like, another room and, like, just, like, be around if they needed anything. I don't know. It is awkward. Yeah, that is weird. I think, who was it? There was a streamer. I think it was, like, XQC or something. One of, like, the guy streamers, like...

their like housekeeper was like cleaning like in the background or something like he was like making more trash like as he was like streaming for her and everyone's like Jesus. I love it when it's like a little tacky even like streaming tell them don't come in that room because it's like what if they don't want to be on your stream you know what I mean that's like I think that's like so weird like I'll cut even if it's like she's in the background for a minute or something because it's like more of a privacy like I don't really know. Yeah somebody starts vacuuming and pulls out the plug for the wifi. Okay that I don't care about but I

saying more like their privacy God Sabrina Carpenter must be so skinny that she could just cross her legs so easily I'm trying to be her she's the tiniest little thing in the world really is she yeah God can we have her on the podcast I would live she's so popular now I can't even like fathom like how it girl she is now it is crazy they're the it couple

Yeah. I really love that. She reposts everybody, like everybody on TikTok. And I was like, oh man, we don't get the repost. So I really feel, I really feel there is some, I don't like her, which I get. I get Sabrina. I get it. I get it when no one likes us. Like I get it. A lot of people do like us now, but I also get it. Like Trixie, just, she used to DM me and now she doesn't. I was like, oh yikes.

I try and be just cool with everyone. She liked me at one point anyway, so that's... Yeah. Yeah. Maybe we'll still have to get Gigi gorgeous to kind of chime in. I love how Gigi's your answer to everything. Because she knows everyone and everyone likes Gigi. You can't help but love her. Oh, I know. So she's a good bridge to unite everyone. Yeah, she's really my verification to be like... I'm a good person because Gigi's known me for a long time and we've been in each other's life forever, so I feel like she's my...

Not verification. What's that word? Like my vouch. Oh, yeah, yeah. She's like the witness. Yeah. She'll be like, no, Trish is actually good. I know she's a little cry-cry, but she's like a good person. I guess that's a good bridge to a hot topic I had is that Trish is taking a sabbatical from drag, which is like... It's wild because she's been working so much nonstop since like she was on Drag Race. She was on season seven. So it's been like, I guess like over 10 years, I think. What's the reason? Like a mental health and physical health. Yeah. Oh my God.

She's taking like a whole sabbatical. Like she's not going to be on social media at all. She's not doing any shows. She's not going to be doing any gigs. Like she's going to be like herself, like out of drag. And you're not going to be, she said you're not going to be seeing her at all for until like October.

Oh, that's not that long. It's a couple months. That's like four or five months of like... I thought sabbatical was like the priest to like dedicate their whole life to just being a priest. No, no. I think that's sabbatical. Sabbatical is like a few months. Are you sure? Yeah, like a mental health sabbatical or like a health... Like if you have a surgery, then you're like out of work for a few months. It's like a sabbatical. Oh, really? Yeah. I swear someone tells in the comments, I say that's a priest...

Because a priest takes a sabbatical. I remember it's more like teachers that would get like one year off every seven years or something. Like you get a year off. What? I literally thought it's like when you dedicate your life to God in the priesthood. Arrest or break from work. An extended period of time intentionally spent on nothing that's not your routine job. Oh my God. Okay. I literally thought she was joining the priesthood. I was like, damn, that's.

Okay, so she's taking a break. Okay, that's cute though. I like that too. Good for her. Honestly, it is good. When we took that one week off, I mean, first of all, I miss the social media so much, but like it does kind of feel good. It kind of was like, I'm like, I could win the lottery right now and just take a year off. I would miss it though. Even if I won the lottery, I would miss it. I would just miss it. I don't know if I could take like a full –

even a month i don't know i know i can't imagine either because i it's fun yeah it's fun i get it i get mental health like especially if you're like deteriorating i don't know just taking a break is no like i mean she said like her body has like physically deteriorated because you think about like you're in drag like her wigs are heavy and like the heels like the like all the dresses you have to wear like undergarments for like it's so hard and then she's like the dj like she's on her feet you know or like performing she's like

she's done a lot i remember like after season seven when like her and katya did like her like their youtube show like we interviewed her at access and like i think we just like dm'd her or something because she was like fresh like she was new and trixie came like just herself like up to like our office like she everything was through her like we're texting her the directions and stuff oh i love that but like and she would come in literally like all the time to promote anything like anytime she had like a little tour or something like

She would come in like even just like performing at like WeHo. She would come. I love that. So she's like a hustler. Yeah. So like literally hustling since like you finished Drag Race like working nonstop. Do you know what year that was for Drag Race? Let me see. It was season seven. That's a long time ago. Yeah. Because we're on 16, 15 right now. No, I think we're 17. We're going to be 17 next year. Oh my God.

It was 2015. Yeah. So, yeah, like 10 years. And, like you said, just going full force. Non-stop. Yeah, even just, like, glamming, which is a lot. But, yeah, your drag is a whole different thing. You're, like, transforming, like, into a woman. Like, it's just a lot. And it's, like, way harder because then you're, like, putting breasts on and everything. It's, like, way harder. Yeah. And I have a lot of respect for Trixie just because, like, literally working non-stop. And because, obviously, she works with Katya a lot. And, like, Katya had to take breaks for, like, either, like, mental health or her sobriety and stuff. And, like.

whenever that happened, Trixie would, like, keep going for the both of them almost. Yeah, like, yeah, don't want to stop this. Yeah, exactly. Yeah. So, like, literally, like, 10 years of nonstop and it's been, like, it's almost like that Lady Gaga. I mean, like, club, bar, another club. Oh, yeah. It's like a stand-up show, comedy, YouTube, TV show, like, hosting the pit stop, a book. Motel, yeah, like everything. Yeah, motel, opening a bar. Like, it's just...

Cosmetic wise. Like it's just non-stop. Non-stop. It is crazy. And they all do so well too. And then going on everyone's podcast and having everyone wanting to come on your podcast. Yeah. I see a lot of collabs that she does like with fashion and just like she's just everywhere. And I feel drag queens in general too. I always just think they have my respect because it's like getting outfits together. Like I told you like even for Lux, like just getting that full outfit together. It's like not only money but stress and the fitting. There's one that like stole my money to this day. I'm just like, hey, are you going to – I literally DM him like once a week. I'm like, can you give me my money back? He's like, it's on the way.

Okay. Like, never happens. But, like, you know, you get your money stolen. You got to perform. You got to do this. And, yeah, drag, like, queens, they, like, go out to all the clubs and, like, they're, you know, like you said, they're on their feet. They're dancing. They're performing. It's, like, a whole thing. So it's not only you're performing. You're doing social media. You have to go on the show. You have to go to the drag con. You have to, like, could never. Like, that would be so hard to have to go to, like, all those things. And I feel like there must be, like, almost, like, a pressure to keep doing it all, too, just because of, like, the way Drag Race works is, like, there's a new batch of, like, girls every year. So it's, like...

As it goes on, I feel like people just – it's always like the new ones. People kind of forget if we're not out there a lot. So the fact that these queens have to deal with all that pressure, I don't envy them at all because it's like a fight to stay relevant almost. And like you said, it is so popular right now. So I feel like there's just so much. It's almost a little oversaturated. Just like influence the world too and just trying to keep up with them. But I think Trixie is a lot like me where we're cemented in our spots. So we don't really need to compete.

Because I always think that too. I was like, oh my God, all these influencers, like Alex or all these people come up and you're just like, I can't compete with the Tara Yummies. But then I was just like, but I mean, I'm me. So it's, you know, I think Trixie's in there too. Only because we're like older and like when you're around for so long, you're just cemented. Yeah. You know what I mean? And like there's a whole brand, I think, like people just like know the identities of like you or like a Trixie. Like I don't know. I've loved myself with a Trixie.

It's like me and Trixie. Yeah. No, Trixie's brand is strong. I mean, hers is. But I think it might have something to do with the pink. I feel like when you have such a strong branding in general, it like works. Otherwise, like, you know, unless you're literally the canceled girls who can sit on a black leather couch and people love you and get like a million and a half views, which is like, it's amazing. I mean, that's a really true talent is like when you can just like literally just sit and just be yourself. Me, I did like a costume cosplay. Okay, Sabrina Carpenter's it. Let's go. You know, it's just like, it is a hustle, but.

That's still cemented. Anyways, Tana's coming up on the podcast this week. So shout out to the canceled girls. But yeah, I think Trixie is fine. I think she could leave for like a year and people would still love her. I think she could leave forever and people would still love her. Yeah, she's worked so much and like is so iconic that like she can easily like take the break. It obviously has so many like companies outside of just like content. Like she has a bar, the motel, Trixie Cosmetics, and like I'm sure hella investments everywhere else that we don't know about. Well, yeah. Or not.

Or not. Like me, I never had investments. I was like, I feel like I think I'm rich. And I'm like. Your own content was your investment. I don't think so. I had to keep working. I feel like an investment is like you don't have to work anymore. You get a point off. Yeah. But the content cemented your place at least. That's true. I may not have the money in the bank account, but I have the notoriety. Yeah. Which honestly.

Which honestly, I've always wanted to be more famous than rich. Like if someone were to say like you famous for the rest of your life or your financial set for life, I would always pick famous. Before. Now that I have a kid, I'd be like, give me the money. You know what I mean? Like lottery. But I feel like I always would have picked fame over money for sure. And that's why I invested in myself because I think it's more important to be iconic than – what's like a wealthy term? What's the name for wealthy? Wealthy? Sorry. I'm trying to figure out if I look skinny or not with my legs crossed. Or does it look like I'm struggling? It doesn't look like you're struggling. You did it with ease. Yeah.

I don't know. It feels like it's like this part's a little like lifted. It's a little elevated.

it's fine it's fine the image because they're like black stockings we didn't even talk about that because my stocking she wears um um i had thigh high plus size thigh highs but they have to rolling down and i don't know why they even have like double tape so i couldn't find anything so we had to go to black tight so i know it's not a perfect cosplay i was very annoyed by it too but it is what it is if anyone cares anyways trixie we love you have a good sabbatical i know get your rest girl get your rest girl i'll stop yamming your damn she probably is overworked like i don't

Like, I don't see your DMs anymore. I DMed you in 2019. Stop it. Someone who is struggling with fame, however, is Chapel Roan. Did you see her breakdown when she was performing? Oh, yeah. She had a breakdown? No. I mean, breakdown is a dramatic word. She did have a moment where she was, like, crying and, like, vulnerable when she was performing in North Carolina. Yeah.

She was introducing her new song called The Subway and then she began to cry saying that, I just want to be honest with the crowd. I just feel a little off today because I think that my career is going really fast and it's hard to keep up. So I'm just being honest that I'm having a hard time today. So sorry that I'm not trying to give you a lesser show. It's just there's a lot. Thank you for understanding. This is all I ever wanted. It's just heavy sometimes, I think.

think, which makes me feel for her. Yeah, I feel like when you're on such a fast track with your career, it must be scary to go up so quickly. Yeah, because like last summer she was working, I think as a camp counselor, like she was just like very normal. I mean, she's been like working in the music industry for a really long time, but to like take off and be like a headliner at festivals literally within the past like

four months I feel like at all. Like I feel like two months because I feel like I saw that little nylon thing where she talked about me and I was like oh my god who's Chapel Rowan and then oh she's really cool whatever and then we're like we talked to her people like yeah she'd love to come on to like now it's just like Rolling Stone festivals like you know just like headlining like you said like if you told me on Friday like you know she wasn't even on the list for festivals and now she's like on their

posters. Yeah, like she was always a part of the lineup, but she wasn't like featured in the advertising. But now they had, I think, which one is coming up? There's one that's coming up where they had to bump her. Oh, Bonnaroo. They bumped her up to like the main stage of Bonnaroo just because the crowd that's coming out is like so big that now they put her at like the top of the posters, the biggest stage. It's crazy. I think her album came out like last...

year i think maybe over a year ago and it just hit like number one on itunes a couple days ago it's like actually insane like was it the governor's ball where she had that big crowd yeah that was i love that i wanted to cosplay that but i would have done a pink version of the statue of liberty the statue is not pink so it would have been hard to do but she looked fierce she looks so pretty because i feel like i mean i think she always looks good i think she has her own like obviously her aesthetic is like different obviously than mine but then i saw that i was like damn she looked like a bombshell statue of liberty she had like

the hair and the highlighter and stuff. I just... Yeah, she's very, like, drag-inspired. Like, she performs, like, with drag queens a lot. Um...

And that's like kind of her like aesthetic. And it's so like camp and like cool. She's just like really cool. No, she is cool. Like I always look at someone like that that can pull off those looks. I'm just like that's cool. And it looks effortless. Like I never was like a huge – little monsters don't come for me. I never was like a huge Gaga fan because not to say it's not effortless but it just looked like a lot. Like it almost looked like, you know, I'm trying really hard like with this meat dress to be different and to stand out and get talked about as opposed to Chapel seems very just like this is just what I'm into right now. Yeah, I get that. You know? Yeah. I mean I know Gaga. She's fierce. We love her but – And then –

Last year as well, like, Chappell's talked about – she posted a TikTok where she – and this was, like, before obviously she blew up or whatever, but she was still, like, working with, like, Olivia Rodrigo and, like, opening for her. But she talked about how she's actually, like, bipolar. So, like, dealing with all the fame and, like, people coming up to her –

like, takes a lot out of her. Like, just being perceived, like, she struggles with. So, like, I can't imagine how much, like, it's amplified, like, the past couple months. I can't imagine either because I feel like also, too, no matter what, you, like, can't be prepared for something. Because, like, that's, like, again, another level of thing I can't even imagine where it's just, like, yeah, like, everyone knows who you are. I don't know. I don't know what could prepare you. I don't think anything can. No. You know? I think that's why you see a lot of people, like, spiral or, like, don't know how to act because it's, like...

like Justin Bieber, like Britney Spears, the ones that are so huge. It's just like, yeah, I can't even imagine that level of fame where it's like you couldn't leave your house. Like you never see Brad Pitt like out at like, you know, Chili's or something because it's like, how are you going to leave your house? You know? Yeah. And it's like, it makes sense too because remember that video we saw a couple months ago was like the one where it was like, or it was the Twitter thread that was like, you know, rules. Like if you are a new Chapel fan, it's like how to interact with her or whatever. Yeah. Like don't call her by like her government name. Like just call her by the Chapel. Yeah.

Kind of weird anyways. Why would they? Because she's not known as anything but Chapel Rome publicly. So why would you? Yeah. It's like if you went up to Katy Perry and called her like Catherine Hudson or something. Why would you do that? How do you know that? Wow. How do you know everything? Do you know everyone's legal name? What's Lady Gaga's? God, I forgot her name. She has a restaurant named after her real name. Stephanie Germanotta or something? Stephanie Germanotta. Yeah, you're right. Is that a not Lady Gaga fan knew? Emma Stone's real name is, I think, Emily? Oh, yeah. Because someone's like, I call her Emily because that's her name. Who was that?

A reporter. A reporter. Yeah. Because she. That's my name. Emma Stone said in an interview how she wants to be called by her real name again. Yeah. So that makes sense that people would call her Emily if she's like I want to be called Emily. Yeah. Exactly. But like if you knew my legal name I'd be weird if someone came up to me and was like oh hey so and so. You know what I mean? I'm like I keep it under wraps though. No one knows my legal name except Moses. Do you know it? No. Oh. Okay. Then we'll keep it that way. Yeah. Really under wraps. Wow. Yeah. Yeah.

Oh, I love her. I wish she'd come on. I know me too. We'll follow up at some point. I saw that and I was like, I'm going to leave them alone for a little bit. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Same thing with me and Trixie. I was like, damn, okay. I'm like adding to all those stress. I'm like, come on my podcast. And it is the most annoying thing actually. Like when people want me to come on theirs and I ignore them. Because it's like politely. I think ghosting is so polite. Like I love that Trixie doesn't respond. Because it would be awful if she gave me a response. Kind of like the Britney Broski. Whatever. Not to bring it up again. But if she was just like.

no you're not my brand right you know like honest and like a lot of people prefer honesty i prefer ghosting i was like just and trixie has done that very politely because that's what i do if i don't want someone's podcast i just ghost them you know i just don't respond i don't know if that's ghosting i just don't respond you know what i mean like i think it's nicer than to be like i don't like you yeah i think i would definitely rather be ghosted than be told like um i don't want to be associated yeah the implication right what does

I mean, I get it because she's so mainstream. I totally, totally get it. But, um, yeah, I like the ghosting of it all, but, uh,

well someone who does want to be associated with you you're so good i feel like we're on it saying the transition yes um gypsy rose does want to be associated with you which is go on the just trish con uh podcast i've heard that so much you should trisha paytas is great i'd probably have to get in contact with her like she hasn't reached out to me i don't think so

Yes. Jessie Rose and I have DM'd. We can confirm. We can confirm. She DM'd so quickly actually. So maybe I did it. I don't know why. Unless it must have been a different Instagram. So I went to the ones you told me, the TikToks and Instagram. And I was just like, I'm just going to DM her everywhere. I DM'd her on Instagram. And then TikTok, you, I think,

I think you sent me her. Yeah. Yeah. So then I went to her boyfriend's, Ken. Yeah. Ken Urker, I think. Yeah. Because there was a clip. Someone saw the, did you see the live clip? Yes. I did see the clip. Shout out to someone on X that sent it to us that said, she's like, Trisha Paytas, she hasn't asked me. And then Ken said something like, I like her or something like that. Yeah. So then I just DM'd him. But I just made sure. I was just like, I'm trying to get, I'm using you to get through Gypsy. Like, I just want you to know. Yeah.

hard to think like I'm trying to take her man which iconic her monologue so iconic she's like you're just mad because I have a Chad and last time I checked you don't even have a man and like so stay panini pressed so good so good everyone doing those I forgot to do that lipstick I need to do it can you make in content oh yeah oh yeah

It's so good. It's so, so good. Yeah, he wanted to make sure you weren't the one. You were the next. Yeah. Because she said, oh, and then before all that, she's like, my man wouldn't touch you with a 10-foot pole. I was like, period. And so I was like, okay. And trust me, I get it too. I would be like, especially when you're freshly dating again. Like, I was definitely always checking his DMs. I was like, who the hell is DMing? Even if it was to get to, oh, should we get to church? And I'm just like, mm, sus. So anyways, I was like, just wanted to see on the podcast, whatever. And.

And I showed you the timestamps. What was it? Like 3.54, I DM'd Ken. And then I was about to go DM her. And she had sent me a DM at 3.55. And from her account, I was like, oh my God, that was crazy. So I was like, I wonder if she had his like notifications or they're like laying in bed and he's like, oh, just DM me or something. I don't know. I feel like it's probably that. I feel like they're very you and Moses coded where they're just together all the time. But that's instant. That usually I'm, you know, I'm very someone that's like, okay, give it like 30 minutes before I respond. It was a minute later. And I was like, and

time stamped it all and I was like wow that's crazy because I was about to type to her and I see hi Trisha and I was like oh and I was already typing my paragraph out so I just sent it so she knew like I was like oh if you want to be on my podcast or something if you're on LA and I said you know we share a mutual Alexis Oakley who did your glam like that's just was my glam and then she's like I'll let you know I don't know when I'm coming out to LA next but I'll let you know so I'm like do we fly her out I don't know it sounds complicated to fly

to fly. I would. Gypsy, I guess, if you want to come out. Maybe, like, we'll do, like, the... Because she also wants to go on Cancel, so, like, it'll be the... Okay, maybe we go 50-50. Cancel Girls. You have to pitch it to Tana. Who? I'm sure Tana would... Tana would give her a private jet. She's like, I'll get that for you. Don't worry. I'll do Southwest, I think. I think that's our budget here. Spirit. Spirit, but you get a Four Seasons Westlake. Because I think that's... Ours, Four Seasons is very cute out here, so I'll give you a Four Seasons and a Spirit. No, I think...

Southwest is better in spirit. Yes. Yeah. We'll upgrade it. I don't mind Southwest. I'm not a hater. My family flies Southwest all day. And my family, not me. I never fly Southwest. Even when I had no money, I couldn't do Southwest. Those seats, like they're not, you don't get to pick them ahead of time. It is stressful. Yeah. You know, like I can't be in a middle seat. And Southwest, they wear shorts as flight attendants, which always. Oh, do they? Yeah. Oh, that's kind of fun. Yeah.

Yeah. Yeah. I would like to wear a little short. You're not wearing shorts today. You look great in shorts. You always do. I know. I usually do wear shorts because like no one sees the bottom half anyway. So like. But you're going out after this. Yeah. Yeah. Committed to it. I like it in the vest too. You look like either a Bob Ross painting or like Brokeback Mountain or something like that. Oh my God. I did see your Instagram. It's an old Instagram of you and Moses. It was like, who wants a hot girl summer? I want a broke back summer. Yeah. That went viral again. Yeah. I saw that on X. I was like.

I was like, okay, yeah, that was a good – we did love – we watched Brokeback Mountain together for the first time. I never had seen the movie. It didn't really like appeal to me. Just more of the cowboy sense, not even like the gay storyline. It just like didn't appeal to me. I was just like, I don't know about this. Such a good movie. You never saw it, right? I've never seen it, no. It's so good. Like I feel like it's good. I know you don't like dramas and stuff and it is kind of sad. But I feel like it's just a good story. I don't know. I feel like it's just good. I don't know. I really wasn't like about it. But when we watched it, I was like, I don't know.

I get it. They're both hot guys too. I love – oh, oh, that's the breaking news. My Netflix – okay, so I did a little rewrite on my Netflix show. My tavern made one. I really know the key – did you get to British Channel where they had the three-way? I don't think so. Benedict's three-way? No, I don't think so. Well, they kept cutting it like every single scene and that was like the complaint on Twitter. It's like they basically like cut it throughout like this – like everyone else's story is progressing and then it just keeps cutting to the threesome with Benedict, which is like great. But it's very Challengers. It's very like, oh, this guy is attracted to you. Are you attracted to him? Yeah.

And he's like, I don't know, maybe. And then they try. And then they start with the girl. And then the guys just start making out. So I'm like, this is the formula that I like because I love challengers. I love Bridgerton. So I think my Tavern one is going to have a little scene like that. Moses was actually very supportive of it. He was trying to figure out what makes sense to the plot. And what did you say? You were like...

Oh, they like each other. That's why I can't have them or something. No, I said that basically because you're obsessed with two separate men, the only way to fulfill yourself, you have to get them together so you can have the two men that you're obsessed with. Okay, I like that. Yeah, he was, I was like laughing. I was like, oh my God, this is uncomfortable to talk about. I think it could be a Tavern Maid series. And I think the people could play it because you were talking about how much like, it should be like authentic to Britain or Europe or whatever, whatever location those people live in. I think it should be Harry and Niall.

Okay. Because don't you say they already kind of shipped them together? That was Harry and Louis. Oh, no. Sorry, that's out. It's Harry and I. Because where's Louis? Louis is doing nothing now, I guarantee. Niall's on tour. He was on two seasons of The Boys. He won. And Harry definitely is an actor. So I think it's Harry and Niall. Oh, really? Because I ordered a Harry and Niall t-shirt. Oh.

Maybe just someone made one Harry and Niall one. It's upstairs. That's cool. This is cool. I thought that was the one they ship. No, Harry and Louie were like the infamous like ones that the fans ship together. I'll ask Niall first if he says no. But wouldn't that be good if Harry and Niall were? Yeah, it would be good. It probably would get sold if they were attached. Oh, for sure. Yeah. How do we get to them?

Well, Niall just gave that one fan like tickets to his concert, like the front row tickets. So maybe I think if you just keep tweeting him, it'll happen. Oh, he tweeted it? You should compete on The Voice. You should register to compete on The Voice. On the next season. I wasn't thought about that. Oh, that would have been really smart though. They're all like very good on The Voice. There's never bad ones. And I'm like, I wish it was like a bad one. Could be me. That would be everything. You just need him to turn the chair. And I could pitch it to him. Wow.

Or we can just tweet him. Yeah, I think that's how it happened. Like the fan tweeted him like, if you ever – you should sell out Madison Square Garden. I'll be front row. And then Niall made a joke like that he would never sell it out or something. And then he did like all these years later. And then he remembered and like reached out to her. That's like fan fiction right there. That's crazy. Isn't that sweet? Yeah. Yeah, that's nice. I love Niall. And you can tell it was like through him because it was like a reply. It's not like a main tweet or something. That's basically like he must have remembered.

Wow. That's crazy because he's probably – you vary Niall Cota with your vest too. He wears a lot of vests. Oh, does he really? He wears them on tour and he wears them on The Voice. Oh, that's neat. Yeah, I love it. It looks very cute today. I like it. I do miss your shorts, but the Southwest shorts, I can't get – oh, speaking of shorts too, did you see Jonathan Bailey in his shorts for Jurassic Park? Jurassic Park, yeah. He's working out. How did you see that one? I just saw it this morning. Or is it old? Because gay Twitter, the second Jonathan Bailey does anything hot, like it's everywhere. So is he going to be jacked for the next season of Bridgerton? Is he just going to be like,

Probably, right? Because his biceps are like gigantic now to fight the dinosaurs or whatever they do. He looks good. Like when you look at the first season of Bridgerton, like I think it was like three or four episodes ago. I was like, was he on season one? Yeah.

I was asking Moses, I'm like, I really don't see him. Like, I don't get it. And he was like, literally like one of the main people. And I was just like, that looks nothing like him today. Like nothing. Like if you go watch that first season, he looks really like so much older. He's my age, but he looks like he's like 40. He's so much fuller. Like he just looks different. He looks, his bags, like, I don't know. He looks like a completely different person. And he's like so hot out. He is hot in the new season of Bridgerton, but yeah.

I was like, I don't know. It was wild. He's also a very good actor. I told Moses that he was gay and he like didn't even believe it. I was like, well, I guess that's a good actor. Yeah, he's really good. Which it is. It is. Because I was like, I was like, oh, how crazy. Because, you know, you watch British and I guess it's acting. So this is just me being weird. But I'm like, oh, man, like it sucks. Like you can't really like enjoy it. But I guess you're not supposed to enjoy those scenes. Yeah.

Penelope and Colin. Like, I mean, how do you not, like, it's kind of hot. Like, you're kind of, I mean, I get it. It's acting, but it's kind of like, oh, I get to kiss a good looking guy. It's like Rebel Wilson, who she didn't want to work with Sacha Baron Cohen, but she was like, oh, I'm going to have Shantana handheld in my breast. You know what I mean? I feel like, you know, you kind of know if there's like a fun situation or not. And so, anyway, I don't know. I don't know if that's insensitive, but I was just thinking.

Like, he couldn't really... But I guess you're not supposed to be into it. I don't know. Yeah. I mean, like, I read an article about the... Like, for the sex scenes between, like, Nicola and Luke. And it's like, they literally were just, like, laughing about the whole thing because the intimacy garments are so awkward. Like, that he has to wear... Have you ever seen them? Yes. They're so wild. And I can't imagine because, like, what it, like...

it's almost like a cup or something that it tapes like up your butt crack. Yeah. It's so like unserious. Oh, it's up his butt crack? Did you see his butt in this season? Because I feel like it was nothing up his butt crack. Once I saw, because I went to Google like what they look like and like it tapes maybe not like fully up the butt but like towards the taint area. Oh, okay. Yeah. Like because it has to like be secured somehow. A little tucking. Yeah. It is very like tuck. Yeah. Okay. Because his butt definitely didn't look like separated. Like there was nothing in between it. You know what I mean? Yeah. I think it's like right in the. I feel like

I feel like actors have to say that, though, because it would be – you couldn't say, like, oh, my God, it was so hot. Like, you have to say, you guys, it's so awkward. Like, I do get it because I've only kissed in, like, two of my music videos. And it is. I get it. Like, I get it because it's, like, also – it's, like, maybe this person doesn't want to be kissing me. That's what I think. I'm, like, oh, this person probably is, like, I don't want to be here, but I'm getting paid, so let me just kiss this person or whatever. So I'd probably be thinking that in my head. But I still feel like there has to be something, you know, you see –

what's his name, Luke Newton, like, naked in front of you. You're just like, I mean, you still see his abs and you still see his, like, hips, like, and you're not into it? I don't know, the thrusting? I mean, I don't know. Again, this is why I shouldn't be an actress because I feel like you'd have to feel something. I don't know. Isn't that the whole point of acting is to feel like you're emoting the characters or you're feeling, like, their passion? Well, the character, like, Nikolai's not. Which is them.

It's different. The actors feel the emotion of the character. Yes, but they're not the character. Like there's the separation. Oh my gosh. I think you're very method with your acting. So I think maybe that's the difference. Especially on those scenes. I've just been practicing for a long time. But it's you feeling the emotions, right? You're supposed to be horny in the scene. Like you're like, okay, so you have to convey it. I think when you're on set, a lot of those emotions kind of dissolve away. Especially like the...

Like the senses, you know, like the arousal and all that. Like, because you're on set too. There's other people. And if you're naked in front of other, like you're not thinking about this one person. You're thinking about the whole set right now more than you think about this one person in front of you. Hmm. Hmm. Hmm. Hmm.

I don't know. I've never been in this situation, I guess. You've played a lot of yourself, though, really, right? Like, you've played versions of yourself. So I feel like that kind of makes sense. But I mean, obviously, yes, sometimes there are those, like, think of all the co-stars who end up getting together. So obviously, when there are cases of that, you know, where, like, it kind of blurs. But I think it's common for it to not be that way. I'm not saying.

I would be like in love with the person. I would just be like, oh, I would enjoy like a Bridgerton sex scene more than I would enjoy like Orange is the New Black sex scene. You know what I mean? Like I just feel like, oh, that's more romantic. There's thrusting. There's all this stuff. You know what I mean? I've never watched Orange is the New Black, so I'm not trying to, I don't know if there's a sex scene in there, but I'm just guessing, you know, like a prison sex scene is not as hot as like a Bridgerton romance. You know what I mean? I see. Yeah. Um,

have to believe it. Everyone thought Luke and Nicola were dating and then they were devastated. Did you see who broke this news that Luke has a girlfriend? Right when the press tour ended, all of a sudden Luke has a girlfriend. I saw the paparazzi photos. The one in people. Yeah. Do you think they paid people to publish them or do you think people paid them to get the exclusive? Because everyone was guessing maybe – this is all speculation and I'm totally that fan and it's like so annoying because also like –

People are so annoyed. Oh my God, I can't believe you had a girlfriend. Like what? Whatever. But do you think she called the paparazzi? Do you think they sold it to people? Or do you think people are just like, let's do the exclusive together and we're not going to pay you? Like what? I don't know. I think in general. I don't trust people.

I think, well, okay, with the paparazzi agencies in general, like, a lot of the times they, like, when they have, like, a good scoop, they go to specific outlets, like, the big ones, and they, like, sell it to them as an exclusive. Like, they buy their Iceland first, and then there's, like,

24 hours or longer like restriction for anyone else to use those photos so that happens a lot where like the paparazzi will get the photos and then the agencies go to like hey like we have this photo of like luke and his new girlfriend and like we can sell it to you as an exclusive they pay a ton of money up front people pays the money yeah like or whoever gets the exclusive like they pay a

come up front and then they get that exclusive and then if like say et wrote it up you would have to like link to people like you we couldn't post that photo anywhere you know what i mean because they have it yeah but do you think because no one saw them all during the press tour has gone on for six months and everyone's like oh luke and nicola are together because you never saw him with anyone they were like holding hands and all of a sudden like the day the day the second half is out they're together at dinner i think it makes sense because like

I feel like they probably... The shipping of the main couple always is, like, the selling point. Because even... There was the Bridgerton spin-off. I think it's Queen Charlotte. Oh, yeah. We were watching the beginning. That guy's hot, too. Is he gay? No, he has a girlfriend. But...

No, the main guy in Queen Charlotte. The one who was at the Dolce & Gabbana show with Luke Newton and everyone's like, oh, too bad he's gay. No, I never saw that one. But I remember specifically because that was another one where everyone shipped the girl who played Charlotte and the guy. Oh, they do it with chemistry. Yeah, we watched a little bit of it. And it was like, I remember one time, last summer they were promoting the Netflix festival, anyway.

But it's very specific. But and like one of my questions that I like asked that I gave for them to ask was like, oh, what do you think about people shipping you? And then we couldn't use it because like Luke or not Luke, whoever the guy, I forget his name, but he had a girlfriend and it was like it made the girlfriend like too uncomfortable. Him and the girlfriend are too uncomfortable that be like shipped with. How do you know that? Who told you that? The.

Netflix people. And there was like all these articles that came out after it wasn't like a big secret. It was like they try to like downplay the ship afterwards because it was like weird for their his like relationship. But like you never heard about the girlfriend the whole time they were promoting the show because they're like selling the fantasy, you know. So I do think it's part of like the marketing. Yeah.

It's very Sidney Sweeney, Glenn Powell. Yes, yes, yes, yes. Very Katniss and Peeta. Yes. You want to like sell the fantasy of like, you know, it's like so like old school like Hollywood, you know, like selling the fantasy that these two co-stars are dating in real life. Because people were really into the Nick and Luke...

I guess that's their name together. Luke and Nicola. Nicola, my favorite? Yeah. Nicola. I think Nicola. Nicola. Yeah. I feel like they were so into it. And as soon as they found out, everyone was... I mean, TikTok is pissed. TikTok is pissed. They're like, this is like bullshit. What the hell? And then other people are like, wow, that girl has a lot of patience, which is like...

Again, I mean, I guess it depends on how serious you are. But it's like, I don't know. I guess I would be like, yeah, sell it. If you don't care, right? Would you care? I feel like I wouldn't care. I'm different if you're married. They know I'm with Moses, so it doesn't make sense for us. But I'm just saying like...

If you already have a secret relationship. Because look at, like, the Glenn Powell-Sidney Sweeney one. Like, Sidney Sweeney's, like, fiancé or husband – I don't know if they're married yet – or fiancé slash husband was, like, totally fine with it. And they were, like, in on it. But then Glenn Powell got dumped. Oh, right. So very dependent. Yeah, I guess it depends on the person. I just feel like if you have a secret relationship, it doesn't – it's better because then your relationship can stay secret. You know what I mean? Yeah. And then, I mean, it pays off. I mean, Glenn Powell got, like – became, like, it boy after that. Yeah, he's on the James Shane podcast. I know.

He's everywhere. He's like in the new Twisters movie. He has so many like movies lined up after the Sydney Sweeney movie. It actually is crazy. It worked for him? Yeah, it worked and for Sydney. Oh yeah, she just bought like an $18 million house in Florida. Did you see that? I was like. Everyone was mad that she has money now. I'm like, well, that's how it works. Like you become a producer. But.

didn't she say like literally a year ago that like she couldn't pay bills with euphoria money or something yeah but that's like that just shows the disparity of like being like a star on like a streaming show versus like being a producer on a hundred million dollar film you know that's so true because I was like girl what because the royalties are like so low on like all the streaming shows yeah but once she became like the person in charge of the film yeah she's like now I'm gonna make

I'm going to make that money. Yes. I'm sure she got back end of the, I'm sure it got paid up front, but then obviously back end. That movie made over a hundred million dollars in the box office alone. And then it got put a thing about like everyone who bought it on like iTunes or Amazon, then it got sold to Netflix. So there's money in all of that.

Maybe I should make my tavern a movie first and then sell it to Netflix or something like a series. Yeah. I do love a series. I do love watching like eight parts to something. So I think it's more serious. Gosh. Should I be a producer on my show too? Yeah. That's where the money is. That's where the money is. I want to be a producer. And you wrote it. So you also get the writing stuff too. Is that money in there? Yeah.

CAA get on it I'm too scared to tell them so I just tell them through my podcast hopefully they made it to this point because I just think it's like so silly to feel like I want to do this but I feel like it's actually it's done it's written I had to do a couple rewrites I would love Jonathan Bailey in it too but he's too big right now he's Bridgerton and Jurassic Park so I think I lost him yeah Jurassic Park is really the and Wicked so oh yeah I'll stick

I'll stick with Niall and Harry, I guess. Easier to get them. Yeah. Well, I told you, I thought they like wrote off them in season three going to India because I was like, they probably went off and did Wicked. He's probably like, I can't be in the next season of Bridgerton because they're like gone off the show now. So he's probably like, bye, peace, gotta go.

Which makes sense. But I had to tell him he was gay. The only reason, by the way, the only reason I told my husband he was gay is because, like, I just didn't want him to think I was calling this guy hot all the time if he was, like, a straight person because that's, like, kind of weird to be like that all the time. Yeah, that's, like, me calling, like, straight guys hot all the time, you know? It's like, yeah. It's, like, opposite almost. Right, right. So you're, like, you don't want your, like, boyfriend to know. Yeah, like, there's nothing to be worried. When I say, like, a straight guy's hot, it's like, well...

that's that, you know? Yeah, yeah, that's how I feel too. That's how I'm like, and I said that, I'm like, oh, Oscar says he's out, he's open, like, you know, I just want to make sure. He's at the gay clubs, he's partying, yeah. I love that. Yeah, there's a video of him at a gay club and he has like, I think he has like a little white tank top on and he has angel wings and he's like dancing and it's like so. Is he with someone?

I don't... I literally have no idea. He could have... Maybe, like, another secret relationship kind of thing. I don't know. What if he hit on you and was trying to hook up with you? No. That's, like... He's too, like, hot that it would just make... I would have, like...

million complexes about it. Like too hot, too famous and like every gay in the world like loves him. You would do a little make out. And a straight woman apparently. Yeah. Well gosh I know. Everyone does. Yeah. It's like. Cause he's so Bridgerton he does have. I think he sells the sex scenes the best. The only thing I would say about season three is like everyone else is that not that they weren't. I think the lack of sex scenes were sad between Colin and Penelope. There was only like two and then the other half he's just mad at her the whole time. He's just pissed at her. Where the book had sexy ones. I read

more that they filmed the sex scenes because they kept saying in all the press interviews like we broke furniture like wait till you see what happened in this wild sex scene but there was never a wild sex scene so I'm like what's it because everyone said what did you break and like you'll have to wait and see but there was none of that so I don't know if they like filmed I saw somewhere that they filmed a bunch of sex scenes and they just didn't air them or something or they just cut them

Maybe. That's weird though because that's the whole like part of the style of the show. Which by the way I have to correct what I said about season one. I was like oh I don't really get the chemistry because I really watched half of it up to that point. The second half of season one was really good and it did get really sexy and I really love Renee Jean Page and the girl who played Daphne. I don't know her name but I thought they were really good. Their chemistry amped it up. It was so crazy because the whole

plot i can say a season one because it's been out for a while the whole plot is literally him like he doesn't want to have kids because he like wants his dad's name to like die or whatever you know like all this crazy stuff so literally it's him just like pulling out but being so aggressive about it just like pulling out and then like flipping himself over so it like doesn't get her pregnant and then she like just sits on top of him so like it was wild i was like this is so oh yeah that was like a controversial yeah she literally is just like i get yeah that's very it's very not consensual and i was like

Damn, okay. And she really just did that. And then he's like, what did you do? And she's like, what did you do? And everyone's like pissed. It was a wild season. I mean, she really – yeah. Anyway, I guess it has a happy ending. I can spoil it because she didn't get pregnant from that entrapment. But they did consensually agree to try and have a baby and then they did. So –

Anyways. Did you see, Nicola, like a press conference or something? Someone's like, wow, it's so brave of you to do this sex scene. She's like, yeah, like for my community, the perfect breast community, I love the representation. I was like, she's so slay. Yeah, she's so slay. I really do love it. And I saw on Twitter, but I saw on Twitter too so many people just being like so excited. Like, like totally. I get it. It is annoying when you're like, it's not big at all, at all. Like even seeing her naked scenes, I was like, oh my God, she's literally not big. But yeah.

it is crazy when you're like a bigger girl like me or whatever and they're like, oh my God, you're so... Just because you're like existing in a bigger body, that is annoying. However, I will say there were so many people on Twitter that was like, oh, I love seeing like my body represented on there even if it's not like the same as hers because she is like a really perfect version of it. But I felt the same way. I felt like...

Like, you know, maybe there is a chance for me to be, like, on TV or on movies and stuff like that. Maybe this is a new way where they're going to have, like, bigger girls, like, you know, be naked and be beautiful and not made fun of and stuff like that. Like, you know what I mean? And again, I say bigger loosely because all the girls are so tiny and she's just, like, a little, like, normal size. But, yeah, I do love that they have those representations. It feels good. That's why I love, like, representation in general. I love that it feels good and when it doesn't feel – like, I feel like Bridgerton's doing a good job with that with –

like the queer storylines. Like everyone's kind of like the next season, everyone's like kind of a little queer, I guess, you know? I don't know. I didn't read all the books, but they all seem to be a little bit like lesbian, bi, everything like that. And I like that they do it very like subtly. Like it's not even like a thing.

a thing you know like oh my god you're gay it's just like oh I like this girl yeah I feel like they do a good job same with like the racial stuff too because it's like obviously historically not a great time to be not white but in this world of Bridgerton like I love that it doesn't matter at all you know nothing about their skin color that's what

I even said to Moses when they even mentioned like the second season Kate and Anthony going back to India and I was like oh that's kind of interesting that they acknowledge her like I didn't watch the second season yet I haven't seen it but like acknowledge her being Indian because it's like they don't really acknowledge race at all in the thing which I like it is cool like you don't even think about it you know what I mean which I mean it's cool too that they do acknowledge it but I was like oh

that's so interesting because you never hear about anyone else's like background in the show, which I think is also a good thing. Do you, because I'm not like in Bridgerton stand up. So I'm like, has the reception of the season been good? Because I remember when they pushed

Like, in the book series, it's not supposed to be, like, Penelope as the third. But, like, I think Shonda really wanted to do Penelope's story, so they moved it around. So people were, like, upset about it. Did they like it now? No, they were very excited. Like, the carrot scene. You know, everyone's so excited. Like, oh, my God, the carrot scene, the end of part one, they were so good. Yeah.

I think it happens with everything that gets like so hyped up. I think people get like, they kind of turn against it. Cause I loved it. And then I started going on TikTok and I was like, oh yeah. Like what, why didn't they have as many sex scenes as Kate and Anthony? Why didn't they have as many sex scenes as like Daphne and the Duke? Like they had it in the book and they did. Okay. So I will say I did read the book. I skimmed, I did skip to the mirror, or the, yeah, the mirror scene first. And it is like super, like there's a whole dialogue of him being like in love with her, wanting to cup her breasts, wanting to like ram her from behind in the mirror.

in the mirror and she's gonna watch and all that's like not there there's a lot of sex scenes that they did skip so I kind of like agree with them there and I think they were just I don't know I think people are just like mad about that about that and also the fact that like he was just so pissy the whole time at her because also in the book the reveal is different he's the one that reveals her like he's a lot more like

receptive to it as opposed to like the show. He's very like pissed the whole time. So they didn't really have romance in the second one. It's really them just being like he's mad. He thinks he – he's like you tried to entrap me and all. So he's kind of like very accusatory and rightfully so. She definitely did lie like so bad. But yeah, I think people were not excited. And then I think when the girlfriend came out, Luke Newton having a girlfriend, I think people were really pissed, which is so crazy. That is so silly. But –

Yeah. I think people love Nicola. I think she's like – Yeah. You know, people stan her. But I think they were mad they didn't get a lot. But I think that's to be expected with like super fans of books and stuff to be like, oh, they didn't have this part and this. And I kind of agree. They did have way – they had two sex scenes. So they had like way less sex scenes than –

than anyone else and it's mostly just him fingering her everyone else got thrusted she only got thrusted once i was like damn he really likes to i did see that someone give them nicknames and he was like hers was like penelope fingertin or something because all he did they all had different ones with what they did and stuff like that i don't know i haven't watched them but um but the first season was so much sex like they were having sex everywhere on the stairs and uh and again i like it you know it's great and i was hoping to see more of it but

Yeah, I didn't – I would expect more. I don't know. That's the whole like appeal of Bridgerton. So that is interesting. And not only that was the lack of sex. It was like lack of romance. Like it just was really like – wow, they really hate each other for most of that second half. Maybe they're trying to like really milk the enemies to lovers thing. I feel like that's a popular like thing right now. Enemy to lovers? I keep like on book talk and stuff. It's all like enemies to lovers. It's like everyone gets really into it. Okay. So maybe my tavern, my enemy is like a big giant and then we like –

He becomes your leper? Yeah. Okay. He's like 10 foot tall or something like that. And then my other enemy is like a little leprechaun who's like three feet tall. And then we all get together and do the threesome challenger style. I like it. That'd be everything. Yeah. That's cute. I like it. You got another rewrite? Yeah. I have been rewriting it. I'm passionate about it. Okay. I like it. Yeah. It's good. So where are you at? You're like third. You're having a go. Yeah. I'm like really early into it. Like I said, it's been hard to pull myself away from young Sheldon, but I'll have to. Oh my God.

It's so good. I love Bridgerton. I never would have thought. I hate that era. I usually hate that era of stuff, but now I'm obsessed. I went to Michael's, bought everything Bridgerton. I didn't know Michael's had a Bridgerton collection. Yes. Oh my God. And it's all blue and white. Our bed sheets are now Bridgerton. We got them from Love Shack Fancy. Everything is Bridgerton. Oh my God. They always have like a Bridgerton experience. Next time they have one in LA, you have to go. Yeah, I remember.

everyone that it's happening I remember it was all over TikTok and everyone's going to like diamond of the season I had no idea what they were like this looks so boring this looks stupid you always just miss the well that's why we're current now because I told Moses I don't think Oscar watched it we can't talk about it he's like this is finally something we're current on like season three and he's like yeah you're right and

And we did. We really – because it's hard to find time with two kids too. So like if Malibu went down for a nap for an hour, we watched it and then we got it done. But it was really hard to get it done. Are these juices melting? Should we have to put them – Oh, yeah. We need to switch. Oh, my gosh. We'll switch gears to our bratty summer. Have a bratty summer. I love it. So brat summer you were saying is – Yeah. So this is a beverage –

Moon Juice X Daniel Prada. Is it? X Charlie XCX, kind of, I guess. Yeah, he's like, it's a Charlie XCX smoothie, but. I think it's Charlie XCX inspired. It's very Michael's where it's not Bridgerton, but it's like blue and white Baroque fashion. Got it. Okay, got it.

It's inspired. Yeah, so Daniel DM'd us about his Moon Juice collab that's inspired by the Charli XCX album Brat, which is like, it's the new thing now. It's like not Hot Girl Summer, it's a Brat Summer. Like you want to be in your Brat era, which is just like wild, free, partying, making out with strangers, drugs, like

Poppers, I'm assuming. Did she ever make a statement about the poppers or no? No, she never made a statement. She's a cool girl. Brat Summers for the cool girls. The cool girls and gays. Yeah, it's just loose. Wow, the fun. Are you a brat? No. I really want to be. It sounds cool. Everyone cool is having a brat summer. We kind of are just like a...

chill somewhere yeah we're in the valley in the air conditioning reading books but we have the bright mindset yeah we have the mindset yeah all right what's what's the black stuff i don't know about the green and black how are you liking you're like into it i'm trying okay what's the black stuff i think i think you wrote it in your little card okay um let me try yeah try it before i do okay

It's interesting. It's like at the beginning you get a flavor and you're not sure about it but then it settles and it tastes good. That tastes like the master cleanse or something. Not in a bad way. No, it tastes healthy for sure. Yeah, I know. It should have made sense because it's like, you know. That's why when he wanted to send it to us I was like, I don't know if we're the target market for this but

We love him. And I love the aesthetic of it. Like this feels like bratty to me for sure. Oh, really? Yeah. It's giving me wicked vibes, but okay. Well, like the green and black are like the brat colors. Oh, like army brat. Yeah. Okay. Or maybe not army brat. I think it's brat. What is army brat? Why do they call him that? I don't know. I don't know either. I know nothing.

Yeah. That's actually pretty good. In all fairness, it was sitting outside for like an hour. We were doing a photo shoot. So the juice guy came. Yeah. Is it? Okay. Let's see what the... Yeah. Okay. Does he get money for this? I hope so. I hope so too. I don't know. I don't know. He said that like originally...

He did like a TikTok doing like a fake Erewhon collab that he was like maybe would be manifested into like a real Erewhon collab. But Erewhon wouldn't collab with him. And I guess like – Did they say no or they just didn't respond? Did they ghost him? I think they said no is what he said. And then he looked and they don't really do a lot of like queer collabs. Oh, wow. So he partnered with Moon Juice and like a portion of the proceeds support –

I forgot which one. I think the LA LGBT Center, I think. Oh, okay. QQ. We love that. That's wild. So Erwan doesn't collab with gay people? He like looked at the list of collabs and there hasn't been like a queer collab. Which, I mean, right? Like I can't think of. It was like the Hailey Bieber, the Rodrigo. Kendall Jenner. There's not like, I haven't seen. Okay, Erwan. Your move next. Oscar's available for a collab. Okay.

What would the Judge Trish Erewhon drink be? Oh my god. Pink and white. But like that'd be

That'd be cute, right? A pink and white. But we put your name on it since you're gay. But you're queer, so. Oh, so you're saying queer. Yeah. Yeah. Okay. Yeah. Me too. Patricia and Oscar. We'll put a little otter on there. And while reparations, like, we'll donate the proceeds to, like, a queer charity as well. We donate all of them, too. Maybe. Yeah. I would. I'd love it. Okay. So Daniel. Daniel Prada says, my latest collab with At Moondress. Shout out Moondress. I have a drink there before when I used to live in Hollywood. It's pretty good. It's good.

It's definitely healthy. Yeah. Is there like a celery or something in there? Okay, let's see. Maybe it is a celery. It is the bratty summer smoothie. It's the perfect taste of summer. A key lime colada with a pop of matcha. Matcha is what I'm tasting. Yeah. For natural energy and hydration to keep you going. She's vegan and packed with vitamin C goodness. Um.

Proceeds benefit the LA LGBT Center. Good job. Yeah. Oh, helping all queer people with support programs. We love that because pride is all year long. Oh, beautiful. Hope you love it as much as I do. Sending you all the love, Daniel. In that case, if it's for the queers, I'm going to drink all of it. Let's chug it. I actually really like it. I'm not going to lie.

Like, it's an acquired taste a little bit, but no. But I also like matcha, so maybe that's why. I think I definitely don't like matcha. But, but, look, here's the thing. It is tolerable. It's not like I'm like, oh. I almost taste like something like it's, it's, it's not like turmeric, but it's like.

You remember the Master Cleanse was like lemon and then there was like a chili something in it? It was like cayenne. Cayenne. Yeah. Is it cayenne or no? No, because cayenne is spicy. Oh, it sounds spicy? No, that's me. And I have like a low spice tolerance. Okay. It does taste a little bit celery. Look, it's definitely not bad. Like it's definitely like I would be drinking this. I'd be Instagramming this. I love that it goes to a good cause. I love that it's healthy. Here's the thing. I don't like healthy stuff. This is why I drink – I do a grapefruit because I think that's the healthiest I can do. But I don't like celery or – but definitely not. What's matcha?

I don't know what it is. Is it the type of tea? Like matcha tea, I think. I've had matcha pancakes before, so I don't think it's a tea. I'm pretty sure it's like a tea. Okay, maybe you would know more. Maybe. I could totally be wrong. They have like Japanese fluffy pancakes that are matcha. Yeah. Like matcha pancakes. Okay. They're not good either. It could be mixed with like, they have like matcha everything. They have like matcha cupcakes and everything. Okay, so anything. Matcha cheesecake even. Yeah. Oh, okay. Well, next time there's a matcha cheesecake. No, it's actually

It's not bad. Honestly, like, seriously, like, I'm just giving my honest, like, I'm just, like, not a healthy person. Like, I had chips earlier. So, but it is good. Like, I think if I'm more in my healthy era mindset right now, like, I like it. And I love that Daniel did that. Like, honestly, like, I was saying, Moon Juice has a slight, too. Like, even if Erewhon doesn't want it, like, that's also a slight. Like, that's cool to have your own drink somewhere. I know. And I didn't know it was, like, a whole, like, he does a whole, like, series on his TikTok. So, I told him, I'm like, I think you might be running in the running for Queer of the Week with, like, your- Yeah. Oh, is he your Queer of the Week? I think so. I mean-

honorable mention Harry Daniels because he got signed to UTA oh man Moses should be in here he texted me that like literally right when it happened I was like wow you're on it he is he's a plant he's a plant he

He was with Obama and we studied that video and I'm like, okay, there's no barricade between them. He was up close and personal with Obama. Yeah, I think he has connections. I was like, no, there's no way. You can't get that close to a president without him. Well, I don't know. Logan Paul was with freaking Donald Trump. Yeah, but he probably had to do security clearances. You know what I mean? It's not like you can just go up and start singing to Donald Trump or Barack Obama or any of those people. I guess, yeah. There's no way. There's no way. When he comes back, we'll have to really press him a little bit. He's definitely a plant, but hopefully he can help us. How do we get them on? We love a plant that helps us. We'll ride the plant's coattails. Yeah.

We'll water that plant. We'll trim that plant. Yes. I love Harry. Harry is honorable mansion mention for sure. Queer of the month for sure for Harry. Wow. Queer of the month. I think so. Cause like he's been home, but like, he's just a real one, you know, like he's just so, yeah. He's like the sweetest and like,

Just like he talks to talk, walks to walk. You know what I mean? It's not like he also just doesn't like when he was here. It's not like, oh, yeah, I'll put you in touch with like chapel. But a lot. He's just like he just did it. Yeah. Yeah. No one's like that. Nobody's ever been like that. So even like just that little like connection a lot. Like literally, I know so many people that could be connected to people. Never once have I had a connection like that. So that's really nice. Yeah. Thank you, Harry. Yeah. Who else would be in the running? Um, um, um.

Honestly, yeah. I guess Daniel takes the cake for this one. Yeah. Jonathan Bailey is mine. That's fair. That's definitely fair. God. That guy is like crazy hot. Like crazy hot. And that's why I have to reiterate. Mo's not in here now, but I can't have him tell him he's gay because it's just like – it is actually insane. Like I watched him on like Bridget Chaney, like everything. I guess he's just a good actor or whatever, but I'm just like, wow, he's really good. And even like Wicked and stuff, like when I watched the – he's not really in the trailer, but when I see them at like the tennis games, I'm like, he's kind of hot. He's kind of hot.

And the fact that he's going to sing in Wicked. Oh, yeah. I remember when like last summer when he went to the tennis game with Ariana and everyone's like Ariana's new man. Everyone's like he's gay. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Oh, that's kind of sad. Like I do hate that you have to say that to follow up. You know what I mean? Like when I have to preface it to Moses or like people in general. Like it's like, well, he's gay. So it's not going to happen. Like let them.

of the fantasy of being the leading men. You know what I mean? Like, let that happen. Yeah, because it's like, I mean, I'm glad that we live in a world now, like, you know, Jonathan Bailey can, like, lead Jurassic Park. But, like, I think Matt Bomer just said, like, he got, he was supposed to be Superman, but then he got outed. This was before he was out. Really? He got outed, and then the executives, like, wouldn't let him be cast as Superman because Superman couldn't be gay or something. Isn't that crazy? Yeah, because he looks like Superman. Like, Matt Bomer is, like... I don't know if I know what he looks like. Oh, yeah.

I've heard the name. He is probably like one of the most like beautiful men in the world. And that is weird. He literally looks like Superman. Yeah, that's kind of. He was in Magic Mike. Why don't I know what he looks like? This guy. Oh, wow. I don't know if I've seen him. What else has he been in? He's very gorge.

I mean, like, just, like, unreal. Oh, yeah. Oh, wow. He looks like – well, he kind of looks like the guy that played Superman, Henry Cavill. Yeah, he does look like Henry Cavill. Damn. Do you think it was because he was gay? He said in an interview it was because they found out he was gay. What? Because he wasn't out of the closet. But when the producers of the movie found out that he was gay, they took him – Can't he, like, sue them or something? Is that discrimination if he actually thinks that? I knew a thing, right? I don't know. That's wild. I mean, I believe it. Yeah.

But he – what else has he been in? His like big thing was a show called White Collar. It was on for like six years. Oh, yeah, yeah. I've heard of that show. Yeah, but – It's definitely cute. Yeah. Yeah, no, it's great. It's great. And also like that people don't even question it. Like they still love him in Bridgerton. You know what I mean? Like Kane. Like Kane, I think it's the best couple of the best seasons. I like that. Like it is really great. That is just – Yeah. But that's also like a really good actor at that point.

I think at that point like it's just like wow that's like you know you convince all these people like how amazing you are and yeah I can't wait to see Man Wicked because I do love Fiyero I think it's one of the best I was like I didn't know who he was when they cast him I was kind of like that's kind of random I don't really like that person I love Adam Lambert as Fiyero I thought he could have been it but now I'm excited for Jonathan Bailey was Adam Lambert in it on Broadway he was on the touring production of Broadway but I saw him in it like before American Idol like I want to say 2007 or something like that and I have the

playbill from it because I think he was in maybe LA with it or something. I don't know. I remember seeing him. I thought he was so good. You missed it, Moses. He did your – he sent me one of your – or he talked about one of your hot topics, which was Harry Daniels getting signed by UTA. Oh, yeah. Oh, good. And Moses had sent it to me and I forgot to reply. And I was like, oh, no. Moses had such a good hot topic. I was like, wow, look at you knowing it. That was pretty good anyway.

He was our like queer of the week or month because he's wonderful and great. And I was telling him our theory that he's a plant because he was so close to Obama and there was no like barrier. Anyways, we just went over the whole thing. You missed it. I was like, oh man, Moses would be here for that. But yeah, so that's mine. Did you, oh, did you pick?

Oh, Daniel. Daniel. Yeah. I mean, slaying the moon, you know, slaying the moon just made it happen. You know, one door closed. Another one. Oh, that is crazy. I would love to have my own drink somewhere. So maybe just air one. No, I'm just kidding. Moon juice hit me up. No, I think it's actually we can do it. We love the Jamba. Jamba. Yeah. Just trash. It'd be like the pink and white. It looks like air one. The Haley Booboo. But it would be such a sleigh. Yes. All day.

Oh, Jamba Juice hit us up. I worked with them once. Yeah, just be like the rice mataz with a swirl of vanilla. Yeah, that would be so cute. I love it. Hit us up. Another one of your favorite men went viral. Zac Efron. You look like him today. I was going to say that too. What? He looks good. Did you see him at the premiere? Zac Efron looks so good. He looks really, really good. Yes. He's in a fun, goofy mood and all these... He's like talking about... Yeah, he's like... ...Hutchins. Like he's just cute and silly. Yeah. Talking about his brother. He usually...

I feel like it hasn't been like super fun. Like he's always nice, but I don't, he usually doesn't have like a silly goofy time. Yeah. But I feel like he's feeling himself because at the, what is it called again? The Nicole Kidman, Joey King movie, the Netflix one. Uh,

Family Affair? Family Affair. Yes, you're right. Is it out this weekend? I think – I can't wait. Next weekend? I'm so excited. Yeah, it looks good. Nicole Kidman – I mean, they did a movie a while ago. I think it's called The Paperboy. And I remember there's a scene – Yeah. And there's a scene of him dancing with her and he's in like – maybe in just his underwear, I want to say. What? Oh, my God. We're watching it. I'm pretty sure. Yeah.

I love him. I want him to go on the podcast. But everyone loved that he was talking about Zach and Vanessa and Ashley. Yeah. Like the family reunion. Like, oh, it's going to be a fun family. I love it. Me too. Because there was like a high school musical reunion, I think 10, a while ago, like maybe 10 years ago. And, um,

Zach was the only one to like not return. So I didn't know if he was trying to like, you know, move on past High School Musical. But it's always good when like. The nostalgia comes back around. And people can appreciate their older work. I think he'd be like that too. That's why I mentioned him. I always tell you, when he comes on the podcast, we could do like a Troy and Gabriella sound. Because I think he'd be into it. And I told you, it's the Troy. Right now I can hardly breathe. Like I feel like he'd be into it. Right?

That's how I envision it happening. Do you want to do a quick TikTok? His little manager will be like, yeah, do a TikTok with her. It's good. She has 9 million followers. Okay, what? I don't know how he gives up. But you know what I mean. And then I'll be like, hey, here's the one. Do you know this sound? And then he's like, but it's rolling. So he kind of has to be like on. And he's like, okay, sure. And I'd be cosplaying the Lorax. Oh, wait. Is that the Taylor Swift one, right? Yeah. Okay. I was like, wait, do you want this jacket for it? Is the Lorax fuzzy? It's the fuzzy orange guy. Okay, I'll get you a fuzzy one. Call Fashion Nova. Okay.

That'd be so cute, actually. Could you imagine if we got Zac Efron? I would die. That's what we need to open up the floodgates. You know what I mean? I think that's... That would be the one. And then we'd be fully in, like, the therapist. Like, it'd be A-lister, A-lister, A-lister. I would say Wednesdays or Fridays, but honestly, any day. For Zac, yeah. We'll make it work. We'll make it figure out. That'd be everything. Yeah, but he also... And he's talking about his brothers and the traitor. Yeah. Which is, like, so funny that he would, like, say, he's like, I think he's gonna win. Like...

And there was a girl too. I think she was doing a TikTok like a video. Did you see that one? And he's like behind her and he gives her like a little arm squeeze and it was just cute. It was like a fan and I was like, oh, look at him like touch her arm. Like he was being very like, I don't know.

I don't know. Just warm. And I feel like that's not really Zac Efron in general. Like he seems very serious about stuff. He doesn't seem to be warm. Yeah. Maybe because he went through so much trauma. Now he's finally just like recovered fully. Yeah. He's back. And can be himself. Yeah. He looks like himself. He looks like the old Zac Efron but like mature. Yes. Like manly. Yeah. I love the short hair. Yeah. It does look really cute. He's been doing the press rounds so maybe he'll come on to us, Trish. There's hope.

I really, really, really, really love him. I think that's another one where I don't know if I could actually. Like, I would, but I don't know. I think it would be bad. I think it would be bad where I would disassociate, where I wouldn't know what I'm saying. Because there's a lot of times, too, where I disassociate and, like, I don't hear what someone's saying. Oh, yeah. And then I have to just figure out what they just said. And it doesn't happen often, but sometimes it just happens. And I don't know. And I'm like, oh, shit. I didn't listen to what they just said. I've done better since being on this podcast. But, like, before this podcast, I used to, like, never remember what someone said. But now I, like, really have to practice listening. So I think it was Zac Efron. I think I'd be, like, really –

I don't know. You kind of look like Zac Efron from Bet On It today, too. Oh, yeah, the black. I'm not going to stop that. Yes. We're just going to have an earpiece for you. Who's feeding me the questions, Oscar or you? Because Oscar might be like, what's it like to be hot? Like the dead deficit one. And I'm like, oh, no. No, I'd be like, he just said that he asked me about that. Oh, you can repeat. Well, you know I do don't. Like, I listen, but I can't. I'm just like, wait, what were you talking about? Like, I'm really bad at that. So anyways, with Zac Efron, I don't know if I could concentrate. But, you know, we'd still love to have you on.

He is – I do love him in all the press stuff he's been doing lately. You look like him. You gotta give me Zac Efron today. I'll take it. Your face, like everything, like the chin, a little bit of stubble. Like it looks really good. He's handsome. I like him. I know. I mean I love this like era of Zac. Like he's just like fully back on it. Yeah. I do too. He's great. And I love that he is – I love that his brother is going to be on the trainers. I hope that he whoops everyone. But I wonder if people will know him.

Do you have to introduce yourself as Zac Efron's brother? I think if you say I'm Dylan Efron, people would connect. Really? I don't know if I would because I'd be like – because you wouldn't assume you have the same last name as a sibling. We're on a show where like you have to be famous. So I think that like – No, it's like – do you want to know the show Claim to Fame with Kevin Jonas? Yeah. And it's like everyone's just trying to figure out who – what famous person you're related to. And it's like really the people that go to the end. It's like if someone doesn't know – if the relative is just not famous enough. You know what I mean? Yeah.

Not in a bad way. Like a lot of them are, they're not super famous relatives or anything like that. But it's like sometimes, like you knew the guy from Cribber Enthusiasm, but I didn't. And I don't think anyone on the show knew the guy from Cribber Enthusiasm because they're all young. They're all like kids. So of course that person's going to go far because they don't know. You know what I mean? You could have all the clues right in front of you. And Donny Osmond's son was on last season too. And a lot of people were like, Jim Carrey is. And it's not, again, Donny Osmond to me is like so famous. And he is. He like sells out things. But younger kids won't know him. So like even if you have all the

clues like if you just don't know the name you just don't know the name you know what I mean but like Zendaya's cousin was on and everyone knew Zendaya and that's why he got out right away because everyone's like Spider-Man Zendaya okay boom and so like her cousin got kicked off like the second week because she was so famous Eddie Murphy's daughter like all the really famous ones get kicked off early because like the clues are easy my theory anyways Dylan Efron if he was on that show I'm sure people would not know or does he look like Zack

I have no idea actually what he looks like. I mean, he looks – I don't know if they look like very, very similar. Maybe similar noses, I want to say. Like kind of like – you know they have like a nice point to their noses? Oh, yeah, yeah. Okay. Yeah, he has a similar nose. You would know. And he's also hot. I just also know Dylan Efron, so I would know him right away. Just from the show? Or just – you know him personally? I never saw the show. Can you imagine? I knew Dylan Efron. I thought you did. Didn't you go to school with them, like high school musical people? No, I went to school with the guy, Zeke, who bakes from High School Musical. Oh, right. And Zac Efron came to our high school once. Yes.

but never met the man but um

Dylan Efron, I just know via him being Zac Efron's hot brother. You just know? That's how you knew him always before the show too? Yes, because – Yes. This is so – okay, no one cares. But when I had to manage Instagram accounts like Entertainment News, it's always like the things that always did well is like hot siblings or like – so I would always – Interesting. Or like hot body doubles. Like that's a little trick if you work in the biz. Wait, really? Oh my god. That's so funny.

That's so funny. I would use like Chris Hemsworth has a hot body double. So anytime I like needed a post and didn't know what to post, I'm like, here's Chris Hemsworth and his hot body double. Two hot people. Because people like. Yeah. For sure. Maybe we can't get Chris Hemsworth. Maybe we can marry the body double. Yes. You're so right. Yes. Oh, I would totally be that person when I was single. Like who's like close? Who's close to this person? That makes sense. I like that. Yeah. That's a little hack. Okay. Good to know. Find the body doubles. Yeah. The stunt doubles. Yeah.

Oh my God. Would you do your own stunts in your Netflix show? Well, I don't see myself doing stunts in this Netflix show. Well, I mean, I'm trying sex scenes and yes, but like, I don't know. If that's considered stunt work. It might be borderline stunts. Oh my God. That's true. How would I do that? You have to be like strung up or something. Like, I don't know. It's very Princess Leia, Jabba the Hutt. And like Jabba the Hutt would be the giant, not me. I'm not Jabba the Hutt. I'd be Princess Leia in this situation because I would look tiny next to it. Like it's very that. Yeah. I like it. Right.

I would do my own stunts for that. Is that considered stunt work? Is it because it's sex scenes or is that what? Do you get paid more for it? I don't know. I don't think so. I just really wanted to be naked. I love seeing Nicola naked. But I always said that even from the beginning. I always want to be naked on TV because I think it's – I think my boobs would be actually very impressive. I thought hers were, but I think mine would be too. I know I have scars on that, but I think it is a character. It's part of the Frankenstein theme. The tavern maid is actually – her name – her last name is Frankenstein. She's one of the Frankensteins. Wait. What is her first name? Trish. Trish.

That's why it's the Trish Lake Fish Tavern. I'm not playing myself. It's Trish Frankenstein? Yeah. Yeah. Ooh, what a good storyline. Because I love young Frankenstein, so it's kind of like a continuation of that. That would be everything. Like Gene Wilder. Jeremy Allen White could be in it because he looks like Gene Wilder. Oh my God, this is like all panning out really good.

Trish Frankenstein is her name. She has freaking titties. And then after that, there'll be the movie, the prequel, you know, the young Trish Frankenstein. Oh, right. Then we've got the young Trish. Young Trish Frankenstein. Who's going to play young Trish? That would be interesting. I don't even know. Well, she's not around yet. Sabrina Carpenter. Oh, God. Yes, please. I want Sabrina Carpenter. Please, please, please. Please, please. God, she's so pretty. I want to be her mom in like a music video or something if you need me to be in it. I would love to be.

Okay, yeah. We're adding that. I think that adds because I have the scar on my boobs. I have the scar from my C-section. I'm just a whole scarred up woman.

But Church Like Fish is not really a woman. She's like half fish too. So yeah, there's a lot of lore to it. So anyways. Maybe that's why you have this card, the transformation. They had to put some legs on me. They had to put a vagina. They had to put the vagina in me that was magical. So I'm not a woman that has a magical vagina. Oh, the magical vagina wasn't God-given? The leprechaun hid it in there. Like the leprechaun made me and hid his pot of gold in my vagina. How big is the pot of gold? It's a big. It's meaty.

You'll have to wait for the Netflix show to see. And then it never comes out. I'm like, wait till you see this pot of gold. I know, Jimmy, do put spoilers in the section. Spoilers. Yeah. I actually do have it written out, but I'm thinking of this now. I'm like, actually, this is kind of good. I just added to it. Okay.

Please don't send me ideas, by the way. People were sending me ideas. I do not take solicitations to my email. I do not read them. If it says Trish like Fish Tavern, I delete them because people be doing that. They're like soliciting like ideas and I'm like love the idea but don't because it's my show and you could coincidentally have the same idea as me and I'm like no, don't. I don't open them. Don't send them to my email. Thank you. I have to put that out there. No solicitations. Thank you. Oh my God.

Oh my God. We'll create a new tier on Patreon for people that want to. Don't input. I don't need input. People that want to be producers. No, no, no. No producers on Church Like Fish Tavern. This is when you have no hot topics. It's like. Just spitball. Just, you know, spitball. I literally have one hot topic. This is a hot topic. This is very hot. Yeah, that's true. It's a very hot topic. A non-existent TV show. It's like the Tati lawsuit. It's like this never comes to fruition. I can't tell you, but wait till the show comes out. It's like 10 years later.

One day. All of our writers are working on it. All the writers are working. You should be a writer on it, actually. I didn't know you were such a good writer. You would come on as a writer. I didn't know.

You could do all the press stuff for it, all the press release, and you're really good at it. You could come on as a writer. I actually don't know good writers like that. That's funny. You know who's good is Drew Monson. I wish I could get a hold of him again. He kind of disappeared. Oh, really? Yeah. I feel like he kind of comes and goes. Yeah, but he wrote one of my short films, Viral Video. Yeah, I wrote the first one, Viral Video, and then Viral Video 2 was Richard Grieco. It was like a horror film I did. Shane was in that too. It was directed by Andrew Valentine, and Drew wrote it.

It was like about like an obsessed fan. And who was it? Repzion? Do you remember him? Mr. Repzion? He was like a hater, troll YouTuber. And his part was written. We flew him to LA. He was in it. He was like an obsessed fan or something. I don't know. It was like – it was good. Drew wrote it. Shout out, Drew. But I don't know. I don't talk to him anymore. So not that I don't talk to him. I just don't hear back from him. He's another one. I just stopped him. I'm like, let me not be aggressive. Yeah. He knows the offers out there. He gets it. I actually only texted him twice. But I talked about him a lot on podcast. But I'm like, let me just –

You know? I also splurged on these. And there's no hot topics. I also splurged. I mean, we have more. We can talk about the next one. But the YSL tributes. I finally can get my foot in this. I was so nervous when you, huh? Oh, Shoe Cam? Jimmy did a great edit of the Shoe Cam last time. Yeah, he slays little droplets. Yeah, he's like, Shoe Cam.

I was nervous when you were putting these shoes on me next to the Dodge. I was like, are my feet going to fit into them? They fit perfectly. And they're YSL, which is a designer brand, which is like very – but I love these. I used to have a pair in my size 7 and I used to wear these and they're actually very comfortable. We were just on a slant so it was hard. But yeah, these are called the Tributes.

Like, Joy Graceffa's band. Or Hunger Games. These are the tributes by YSL, and they fit so nice. And the Stanley fan is so nice. And it's, they're cute, and I love them, and I'm so happy to wear shoes again. So, yeah, Sabrina Carpenter, if you need a body double, that should be the title. Sabrina Carpenter's body double. He just gave the hack, and that's the thumbnail, the clickbait.

Take me in, girl. But then you would have to take like some hits or something. I don't know. You just like go through doors. Oh, I totally could do that for sure. And most of the Barry Keoghan double. I would say you could say the title Barry and Zac Efron join Trish. Yeah. Challenger scene. Just like that's kind of everything. I don't know if that's good clickbait. I think yours is better, but I like it.

Did we talk about Shane enough to make him a title? I don't know. I will say another thing about Shane. I was telling Moses this. When we were watching him do the live, like, she's lying. She's lying. You know, like that one. He has pretty eyelashes. They're very long and thick and full. Did you ever notice that? They're gorge. I've never noticed that before. I was like, wow, he has actually really pretty eyes. Never once looked at his eyes. I was like, that's so weird. I never saw that in real life. They were so pretty. And then I was looking up stuff about him. I was like, oh, he actually has really pretty eyes.

Did you ever notice his lashes? No, I never did. They're so thick and full. And in that specific one where I was like, she's lying. She's lying. I was like, wow, his lashes are orange. You know what's funny though? My algorithm now that like I had to like look up the Tati dumb as hell. Now I get a lot of like your deleted videos. Yeah, like the Gabbie Hanna ones. Well, we can just react to those. Yeah.

I don't want to react to that. I was even like embarrassed to react to the Tati, but I was on point with the Tati one. I was aggressive. I was very angry. Like my face was like so pissed. I was like, damn, I was really angry. But I think I'd be cringing on the other ones. Like Gabby or something. I don't know. Probably making stupid points. My points in the Tati was like, I'm not being canceled. I'm not problematic. I was like, okay, girl, chill.

getting canceled like literally three months later but it's a good one those were good yeah the old videos of me are funny I can't watch it I hate watching myself like I told you I don't even edit myself like I just don't like watching myself period so I'm cringed I'm sure I'll cringe at this in like 10 years I'll be like oh girl why are you dressing up as a 25 year old pop star like you're so embarrassing

The timeline is wild, though, because then I saw it was like the Gabby one. Then the other one was like Trisha's deleted rant against Shane. But it was like you did that on TikTok, I guess, when you were done with him. Did I have like a face mask on? I think. I didn't watch that one yet. Yikes. Yeah, I mean, I was a little unhinged. I was a little unhinged, you know? I feel like now it's like whatever. Whatever.

It doesn't even feel like a part of my life. That's why I feel like I can talk about, oh, Shane in the thumbnail because I'm like, it doesn't even feel like I know him. Yeah. Like, especially now, I definitely don't. I don't know if he's a different person. He might be the exact same person and I still want to know him. I'd be like, ah, but did you say that I had herpes to Gabby Hanna? Now I'm questioning. You know what I mean? That's the only thing I think I could never be friends with again because he would just constantly be questioning, you know? Just like, ah, I don't know about that. Suss. Maybe I'm believing Gabby now. I kind of like it though. I love where I'm at just being drama free. That's why I'm like scared to invite any friendships into my life because I'm like, oh, I can just be cute and like,

Not get too close. Yeah. Not like risk anything going awry. Yeah, exactly. I don't share too much information with anybody. You know what I mean? Just like, oh, I'll just keep everyone at a little. We just do a podcast. Oh, you want to hang out? Come do a podcast. You know what I mean?

That is how you have to hang out with people these days, though. Because it's like, I mean, what else would you do, I guess? Well, we did go to Buffalo Wild Wings in Canada. That was kind of iconic. But I don't think we could do that now that we have two kids. Well, maybe. That was like 11 o'clock at night. But another thing, I'm like, ah, I don't know if we should go out together. Because I don't know what happens. You know what I mean? Like, one of us should be home with the kids in case something happens to both of us. You know, it's just one of them. It's hard. It's hard.

We bring the kids, I guess. That reminds me. This is so like whatever. But you have a bob now. Is that what you said? Like your real hair? Oh, yeah. Wait, why? Was it a segue or you just want to know about it? It just reminds me of Bob Gate over at Canceled. It wasn't one of my hot topics, but it just reminded me. Actually,

I can show you the pictures. I can say that. It's fine. It's all good. Like, it happens. Accidents happen. Whatever. But I usually wear wigs. I'm wearing one today. I usually wear wigs. And then one day we were doing – we did the bob last week. And so, like, half my hair was, like, braided back. And to make it look nice and, like, real, we blended the top of my hair with the extensions. And, like, I love all my hairdressers. But, like, every hairdresser does it. Like, sometimes they cut on it, right? Or they just think – like, sometimes they don't think it is, right? And so I just got my hair cut, whatever, at the salon.

And yeah, we were trying to blend it and I

I got the bob cut. I have the picture of it and it's like, usually I don't notice but I have like this like full on like bob and then I just have like my other, like my other hair straight forward. It's fine. It's cute. I'm over it. Whatever. It was worth it for the Taylor Swift cosplay. You know what I mean? It was worth it for the gram. But yeah, I have a little bit of a bob in there and it's like, do I just cut it? Maybe I should just cut into a bob because like you said, everyone loves the bob. Haley, what's her name? Haley Drew? Haley Drew. Everyone's a bob influencer now and maybe that's my calling. Actually, maybe it was a blessing in disguise. I have a faux bob. I have a faux bob.

So I can just braid that stuff underneath again, have my bob out. There it is. And then I can tell Brooke, no, you wouldn't look good with a bob. Only me. I'll just say that to every influencer that gets one. Maybe I'll do that to Hailey Drew. I'll just be like, hey, girl. Just so you know. Maybe don't get the bob. No, there's no hate. I actually felt bad. That influencer. Was her name Hailey Drew? Is that her name? I think so. Yeah. She's like, I'm getting a lot of hate. And I'm sure that wasn't Brooke's intention. I know. She was a statement or something. I'm like, damn. She's like, this was my tone. And I get it. It is crazy. I don't think like.

I don't think they realize like the power like not even because I know they really probably did not mean to extend hate but it's like even if you just say like a story people will find it right and you don't really realize not only when the power of that but how good people are at investigating and also how much people like love you right like if you say something like oh man this person kind of whatever like I'm scared to even say the bob cut because I don't want people to go to my hairdresser and be like why would you do that Trish because like love that person more than anything I didn't even say anything to him because I don't care I'm just like don't attack like who cares whatever it's hair who

But, yeah, I think sometimes you don't realize, like, the power of it, you know? And then the influencer was like, I just said this or whatever. So, but I get it. I get it. Like, I get when you, like, get something back and you're just like, damn. Like. It's not what you wanted to hear. Yeah. Because that's crazy. Yeah. Brooke found, she wanted, and she does kind of look like Brooke. They kind of look like each other. Yeah. The influencer. She's just like, oh, I wanted a bob. And the, basically, what'd she say? Like, no, not you. Yeah.

Oh, she's like, I love – Oh, girl, don't do it. Yeah, don't do it, girl. And she – the influencer, Hailey, did say, like, you know, I was trying to be like, I don't want her to regret it, which I think some people probably do regret cutting their hair, especially into a bob because very few people can pull that off. Brooke obviously can because her face is like a freaking model. Like, it's so perfect. I know. I mean, when she – her hair was pulled back forever and – Oh, yeah. She's like a slick back. Yeah, which is even harder, I think. No one pulls it off.

J-Lo a little bit, but like, that's it. Like, no one else can pull it off. And I was just like, yeah. Yeah, so I think she would look good with a bob. I think Brooke would do a bob. She's getting her boobs done. I think she should get a little bob with the boobs because then it's just like, I don't know. It gives you a whole new era. I love the bob. I love the fake bob I had. I was like, maybe...

into a bob but it's taking me so long to grow my hair so I'm like maybe not have a faux bob there or something like that but I've seen like hella photos of like Tana and Brooke like photoshopped with a bob no is it cute or no um I don't know I think it depends on the photoshop shop because some of them look cute and then some of them don't yeah

I don't know. Also, Brooke just has such beautiful, like, long, perfect hair. I mean, yes. And she, like – I feel like she knows that because I talked about her hair down. And she, like, knows that it's, like, really healthy and beautiful. And I feel like bobs are for people. Like Haley said, she's like, mine's really, like, thin and, like, fine. So, like, it just makes sense for her hair so it doesn't look – she said it was stringy when it was long. So I do agree with that. Hers is, like, really full and beautiful. So I wouldn't.

I love that that was like one of the big dramas of the week was Bob Gate. I forgot about that. I did see that too. Yeah, I didn't even write that down. It was like everywhere. I was like, damn. Yeah, well, you know, when there's two influences, anything Brooke and Tana talk about is going to be the drama of it. You can say anything. So if you say, you know, and isn't that crazy? That is the drama. Love it though. I think Brooke would look good. I hope she does a Bob. When she comes, we'll just all do Bobs. A little Bob. I have a Bob now, so. Yeah.

It's full on. Oh my God, I'll bring my Wonka bob. Yeah. My green one. Ooh, we just all have bobs. Yes. That'd be cute. Even if it's a wig, girl. If you want a wig, I know a good wig person. Like, we'll do a little bob. Oh my God, that'd actually be everything. That'd be cute. And get like a real ass wig. Yeah. That'd be actually really cute. Yeah, just do wigs, honestly. That's like my opinion. Because you can put all that beautiful hair underneath the wig. Yeah. And if you love it, cut it. But yeah, bobs I think are just hard to style too. That is such a good idea. Next time Brooke comes, we have to do. Wig it out. Yeah. I think she can get her boobs in soon. So, girl, if you want to do an exclusive here on Just Trish on those boobs. The debut. Africa.

After Canceled, of course. But, like, you know, come here. I love it. I was so excited. I'm like, please tell me how you love it because I want to get mine done in, like, a year or two. So I'm like, let me know how you like it. I'm excited for her. I'm also trying to set her up with Chase Crawford from Gossip Girl. And by set her up, I mean I told her that he was on Raya and I was like – Is she on Raya? Yeah. I saw that too. I saw that – should I say that too? I was thinking of someone, maybe my sister or something. I was like, oh, my God, she's on Raya? That's so – like, it's so wild to me. Like, he surely can find someone to date. I mean –

I'm trying to think how to say it. When Olivia O'Brien was here and she talked about the actor that she met with who was on Raya. Is it Chase Crawford? No. You know, you actually can't say it. Do I know? Did I? Oh, you know. Did she say here? She told you his name. But I didn't know who it was, right? Yeah, you didn't know who he was, but he's like very like hot. Like he's like one of the hottest like in demand actors right now. Really? Wait, can you tell me in bleep it? F***.

But you don't know him. I still don't know him. He's in like serious like Oscar movies. No way. Yeah. He's like one of like – he's like the next like Timmy Chalamet vibe. Wow. He's going to be in like a lot of big movies coming up. Oh, damn. But when she said him, I was like, damn. So I think everyone like – Is on Raya. Yeah. That's where it's at. I just like – and again, no shade. But I feel like a lot of people I know on Raya are like not even like – like the

Like even just like a hairstylist is on Raya. You know what I mean? Which is like fine. But I always thought it was only like big celebrities. But I just know some people who have like normal jobs that are on there. I guess they had to start widening up the dating pool after a while. It's always the women too that are like the ones that don't have like the famous jobs. So maybe it's like the Playboy Mansion where it's like all famous men but only – Hot girls. Yeah, hot girls. Yeah, that could be that. Because I'm like I know a lot of people who are just like – again, normal jobs. Nothing wrong with it. But I was like, oh, that's interesting. Did you know Dakota Johnson's brother was one of the founders of Raya? Yeah.

Which one's Dakota Johnson? The Madam Web, Late Girl. Oh, Fifty Shades of Grey. Yes. I was thinking Dakota Fanning. Dakota Johnson. Yes. Dakota Johnson. So I was like, wait. And then I was thinking Don Johnson, which is a guy. Yeah. Really? When did he start it? A while ago. I think maybe 2012. Oh. I think. Like around there. Do you know why? No. It was like a group of his friends thought of the idea in college and they did it. Period. They need a documentary on it. It's like Facebook.

Then you get Armie Hammer to play him. Armie Hammer is canceled. Was he?

I think he was, but that was pre him wanting to eat ladies or whatever. He could be in the one that Glenn Powell was talking about, the one where they were putting the lotion on the girls. He could be in that one. That'd be his dream. That's his method acting. That's his sex scenes right there. He's like, yes. Did you see Glenn Powell's statement after it began? No. What'd he say? He was like, he just tweeted something about like, so good to know the story that my sister told me was fake, but everyone's like, Glenn, it's not your fault. You just believe women. Like,

Okay, pretty privileged. It's not your fault, babe. You just believe women. You just believe women who are liars. But you were right. Good for believing them. I love it. I love that they turned it positive. I'm not a huge Glenn Powell fan. I don't know if I love his acting. I haven't seen it. Oh, I saw him in Scream Queens. Scream Queens. Yes, love Scream Queens. You do love? Yeah. I can't get into it. I think Scream Queens is very of the time. But Anyone But You I liked. But his acting was good in it. I liked the movie. I didn't like his acting in it.

I think that's all I've seen of it. I'm excited to see him in Twisters. That just seems fun. Okay, is it Twisters, like, Tornadoes, or the game? Wait. Don't they make movies based on games now? Like, I feel like every... What is a Twister movie going to be like? You put it in your foot over here? Yeah. They make them on board games. Yeah, you have, like, the world championship of Twister. Don't they make movies based on board games? I swear there was a big board game movie that just happened, and it was, like, based on something so stupid like Twister. Yeah, I mean, I think all the way back to Jumanji. Not even Jumanji. No, there was one that was so... God,

movie is it? There's gonna be a Monopoly movie I think. Yeah something like stupid but I feel like they always do stupid stuff like based on like Hot Wheels or something you know what I mean? Yeah. Okay so Twister is the tornadoes. Yes. Plural. Plural because it's a sequel or another one. Oh there's two Twisters coming. I think it was on Twister. Was it in the 90s it came out? I remember liking that movie when I was a kid. Okay good for him I mean I guess.

The Twister movies board game sounds better. I don't know. Glenn Paul seems very sweet. I met him one time and he was very nice. But it was pre his like glow up. Oh. I don't think I'd want him on the Just Trish podcast. What? Why would I ask him? Any more stories? Cannibal stories? You can give us.

think in perspective like what do i get excited to see this person and i was answered to be no and not i mean it's good he goes on other people's podcasts but you know what i mean like zach afron i'm gonna pull out all the stops you know i feel like in a year you'll have a glenn powell phase or something and then you'll come back love him people will post this clip and be like that's so i need to stop saying i don't like people because i know whenever i get opportunities the first thing i think of is like did i ever talk bad about this person is this gonna come out in a clip like the caller daddy is like ah okay well

Okay, well, I definitely said she's not funny or something. So I had to tell her right away. I was like, I just thought, you know, girl. Yeah, you're right. Or if I act with him, he's in the Tavern Show or something. I'm like, sorry. Yikes. Okay, yeah, we need to only talk about people. Oh my God, that was funny. And he almost took Jonathan Bailey's role in Jurassic Park. He got it first, but then he turned it down. And then Jonathan Bailey got it.

He said he read the script and it wasn't just, it just didn't want to do it. Hmm. That's, Jurassic Park is one of the biggest movies ever. I know. I was like, okay. And it sounds pretty easy. I'm going to stick to Twister. Yeah. The movie from the 90s that no one remembers. I mean, respect. Jonathan Bailey just taking all the roles now. I know. Love it. Our new leading man. Hmm.

An enemy update. No, we're... I know we have enemies. No more enemies at that. I have an enemy. Okay. Harry Jowsey. Oh. Oh. Enemy for sure. I can't... I just watched the clips of the perfect match or whatever it is online. I'm like, God, he's so... Kissing Melinda, all this stuff. I was like, why are you so... Why are you so... Do you think this...

I'm going to say it's a character, his skankiness on it, right? Like, why is he playing all these women? He told Jessica he loved her. Is this why he's an enemy or is there a new event? He was trolling Riley Arnold on TikTok. Leave her alone. She's 19. Like, freshly 19. You're just so weird. What's he trolling her with? He did a TikTok with a girl who looks like Riley. Weird. That's Justin Timberlake weirdness. Like, Cry Me A River. Like, you're being weird. And he posted, like, a weird audio. Let me find it.

let me find the quote. Oh yeah. So he was like laughing in this little video with like a girl that looks like Riley. And, uh, it was like to the audio, if you love somebody, set them free. And then in the clip, um, the girl that's with them is like looking out into the distance for the person that they set free. And then some of his fans were leaving comments about like Riley, about how Riley was like way too obsessed with him right away. Um,

How do I know that? What? For what basis? And another fan said that Riley needs to see this video for her to get over him. And a lot of them just said it was downright hilarious. And I don't understand where the pro Harry, I guess it's his TikTok, so whatever. I think he bought the spam bot comments because they all kind of sound

kind of sounds similar too and I feel like that's no one's first thought. It's like he was she was too obsessed with you. I was like I've never heard that rhetoric anywhere. Like where did that She thought that you guys were a couple maybe and that she liked you but I don't know. Yeah. She was too obsessed with you. Oh my like weird. It is weird. And who's still thinking about that Harry? Like you know what I mean? Like he just wants to bring that back up.

Actually, the more I think about it, the more like this is why he's my enemy. Because he is the one that like profited off of like leading everyone on. You're not in Bridgerton. Like you don't need to sell that you're like actually a couple. Yeah, you're real people. Yeah, you're real people. You don't have to like sell this fantasy, you know, because she's also like a real person in like a TV show.

And it's a young person at that. So it's, like, weird. He bought her that, like, Van Cleef bracelet. $15,000. Yes. So, like, why is she crazy for thinking that, like, you guys were a thing? You liked her. Yeah. She's 18. She's fresh. It's, like, you're weird and creepy. And then all of a sudden you have a little podcast and you want to be, like, shady about her and say, like, oh, it made your relationship – your real relationship complicated. Yeah. No. It's so annoying. You're the weirdo. That's such a boring podcast, too. I don't know what they were thinking on the Unwell Network. They have Alex Harrell and Alexander Cooper. And I was just, like –

What? Harry Jowsey is your boy you put on there? I saw like clips. I'm giving myself permission to be full hater because he's Harry Jowsey. But I like saw clips. I was like, what could they possibly have going on at the Harry show or whatever? And it's just like him talking like just just him. It's just him like one camera with like a grasp behind him like every other podcast and him just like rambling. And I'm just like, I can't even understand where the story is going. Like, I really did try to watch it. I was like, OK, like.

I don't understand it. Couldn't get through it. I couldn't get through it even to find tea. And I was like, there's nothing he's saying. It's like a circle. And I was just like, this is wild. Yeah. It's bad. It's bad. And like, I don't get it. Like, Glenn Powell, give it to him. He believes women. At least he's a yapper. Yeah. Glenn Powell, a yapper. You know what I mean? And pro-women. Yeah. He believes women. Believes women. Yes.

For better or worse. Yeah. You need a yeah for Harry. I mean, he really pushes that 40 minutes. Like, oh, did we hit the 40 minute? It gives me like David Dobrik vibes where they just piece together stories to hit 40 minutes. Just to hit that. Yeah. I don't know if podcasting is forever.

You know what I mean? And it's like, yeah, the fact that like you're making this narrative be like she's obsessed with you, but you're the one like still milking it, dude. Yeah, you're having like a lookalike in your TikTok. And you're doing interviews and you're still talking about her in all your interviews promoting your Netflix show. So it's like, huh? And she's not talking about you ever. Like if you constantly are talking about someone and their name's on your mouth and you're like doing weird, like you're obsessed, especially if they're not talking about you, then it becomes creepy. And then we're like, is Riley okay? Should we be protecting her? Like this seems a little bit scary.

It's borderline dangerous at that point. So I don't know. If someone was making like – had like a lookalike of me in a TikTok, I'd be like, you're weird. Yeah. I'm just trying to live my life in Utah. Yeah. I know she followed you, right? Like this is an open invitation for her. Yeah, I'll DM her. Yeah, because you know what? Like I need to like –

get to the bottom of this with like she and she seems very very sweet but like you know we can keep it sweet we're not hard hitting but we can be like it's a key we'll be shady yeah this is the place to do well we can have some shady off camera if you want because sometimes I like when people come and I'm like okay give me the tea and I never want to make them uncomfortable but I would like in person I would definitely be that person to be like okay girl tell me the real and like they do and it's like I just want her to know like

Save space. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Because also like you were 18 at the time. Like no matter what, if you thought, if you didn't, whatever. Like you're not in the wrong of this because one, you were like – you're a professional. You were the professional hired to like dance with him and he was making this weird thing. And then like your feelings get involved. Your emotions get involved. And like even if you are playing along, you're 18. You don't know. Like you know there's whatever. Hopefully she knows that. That's my speech to her. Because any 18, 19-year-old and you're being weird and manipulative with them, you're weird.

And she must have been freshly 18 when they did that show because she just turned 19 like a month or two ago. Yeah. And like, I don't know, the fact that like he –

Like, Harry used it to his advantage to, like, get further in the show and, like, even post-show to still be, like, popular. Like, I think the main – like, if you look at his views and stuff, like, on TikTok, the ones with her are the ones that do the best. So it's like – Yes, I know. Ooh. And he was such a horrible – like, horrible. Horrible dancer. And I was like, how is he getting this far? Shame on Dancing with the Stars for even putting him on in the first place because he's trash. And –

even if it is a character, like, I mean, I was like trolling as a character or whatever, like, and I don't get on those things. It's like, he was still trolling as like a bad person. So like, why would you put him on the show on an ABC show where it's for kids? It's Disney owned. Like, it's just so weird. Put him with like a young girl. Yeah. Yeah. Stop doing that.

Dude, that's weird. Because like when JoJo was on it, she was also a teenager, but they put her with like an older girl. Like her partner was like one of the regular like professionals. Wait, was she older or was she like JoJo's age? She was old. Like she was one of the normal like, yeah. But she was a teenager. But JoJo was a teenager. It was like two years ago, I think. So she was probably 19. Oh, right. Okay. So she was like a legal teenager. Yeah. Yeah. Because how old is Harry? Harry's like 26. Actually, I don't know. I would say 26 because they're all like that age, but I don't know.

Too old for an 18-year-old. Yeah. So, like, why did – if they have JoJo with, like, a normal, like, regular, you know, professional, like, why did they have to go out of their way to get a young one for Harry? Oh, she was a new – she was a new one? No, she was already, like, one of the regular, like, professionals on the show. But, like, they put her with JoJo. Like, I was, like – because it was same sex, like, two girls. Right. No, but Harry's. Was that a new one? Harry's was new, yeah. So you're saying they, like, went out and got this, like, young one? I feel like they got her, like, specifically to be with Harry. You know what I mean? Mm-hmm.

Because like Harry was like the youngest one, I guess. Oh, okay. So they're trying – I feel like they wouldn't put her with like a 40-year-old or whatever. Yeah, they probably should have gotten someone older in general because 18 is just like young to handle. Yeah, I mean she's so good. No, definitely. Yeah. Yeah, but I feel like they know on that show that relationships form. Yes, because I mean look at all the – there's a lot of couples that came out of the dance competition. A lot of couples, a ton. Like that one guy from Shark Tank literally left his wife for like Kim. Yeah.

It happens. Don't go on Dancing with the Stars because I think that's what they don't know. God, people. I don't know. Anyways, I don't know. I don't speculate. Maybe they had a bad relationship because I'm like, I couldn't imagine going on Dancing with the Stars and like being with like, I don't know their names, Vladimir or something and being like, bye Moses. I just met Vladimir. And like you leave after like a marriage of 10 years for like a three month like a dancing. I don't know. It's so weird to me. It is weird. I guess you spend a lot of time together. Yeah. And it's like very close, but I don't know.

Yeah, but you don't know the person. Like, you know your husband of 10 years or 30 years. In that guy's case, that's so odd. I guess you're just over it. You're just looking for something new. Uh-huh. Hmm.

Well, I could do Dancing on the Stairs. Moses would be right there filming everything. He'll be – everyone knows us so much as like Trisha Moses. Even when I posted a Jason Momoa TikTok this weekend, like it was from me. Like it was like a trend of like, you know, the like, does that make me crazy? Like you do something like crazy or whatever. And I talked about like going to meet and greets to like pretend like I was dating Jason Momoa because he always had his arms around me. So every meet and greet I would do – like you can ask him. And Jason's like one of those people – I mean just on a first name basis. Jason Momoa.

Jason's one of those guys that'll, like – no, but, like, literally I paid. I waited in line. I didn't even get, like, VIP. My mom and I were, like, waiting in line for hours at all these Comic-Cons. And, like, yeah, you could just ask him, like, oh, can you do one, like, holding me from behind? And he's, like, down to do it. But I would, like, do it in, like, hopes to make some – like, people, like, jealous. Like, oh, my God, look at me dating Jason Momoa. Even though the background is, like, New York Comic-Con or something like that. But I would, like, do it. Anyways, I posted it. Nothing in the of it because I was more, like, a flex. Like, look at all my pictures of Jason Momoa. You know what I mean? Because I just found him on my phone.

And everyone's just like, no, Trish, you're with Moses. Moses is better. I'm like, I'm not like debating on if I should be with Jason Momoa or Moses. I'm just saying, like, it was wild. But then people, so many in the comments were just like, you found the real life Aquaman. You have your real life. It is very true. Now you don't have your beard, but usually when you have your beard, you're like hotter than Jason Momoa. And I always say that too. That's sweet. But you could be my giant in my tavern, Jason Momoa. Well, you could be too. We could do CGI. Yeah.

I just put my face on a giant. Yeah, yeah. I mean, they probably have to CGI anyways, even if it's Jason Momoa. He's got to be. He's not a giant, you know. But anyways, I kind of don't really like him anymore anyways. Ever since like he kind of, him and Lisa Bonet were together for so long and now he has like this new girlfriend that's like young. Oh, I didn't know he was a new girlfriend. Yeah, I was like on Instagram. I think they hard launched it. Oh. And yeah, I was kind of like, oh, I just love that he was with her for so long and they had kids together. And I was like, oh, he seems just like.

I don't know. I like people in relationships better than people that are single. People single that are single seem like players to me. You know what I mean? But as a mom, I was like, oh, he's got a wife. He loves her. It's great. It's this older woman, you know, age appropriate, whatever. Okay, he's out.

You kind of got into a little drama recently, I would say. What? This was a tip. This was a tip from a viewer, actually. Oh, I love that we're getting hot tips. Me too. My DMs. I don't normally go on my DMs. As you know, they make me a little anxious. But I went looking just to peruse. And then someone said, oh, Oscar, I have a hot topic for you. That was like the preview. And I was like, oh, let me see. And then they were in Leo Skeppy's Instagram or TikTok live. Let me get a text from Leo after this. No. I don't know.

I don't even know what it is. Good or bad. I just know. I'm going to text Leo. Love you, Leo. You're wonderful. I'm scared. Not of him, just in general. Of drama. I'm scared of drama.

Leo's TikTok live. And then I guess in the comments, it became people were talking about like you and Tana's friendship. And then Leo allegedly, because I haven't seen a clip. I've just seen this is just like an alleged witness. This could be a troll just trying to draw. No, imagine. Okay. This is what we heard allegedly. Allegedly heard. He could be my gentle giant. Leo Skeppy. He's tall. Yeah. Or sexy giant, not gentle giant. Yeah, he's tall. He could be in it.

But anyway, the topic of your friendship with Tana came up and he allegedly was like, you know, like not all friendships are like made to last. Love Tana though. Okay, well me and Tana have been going 10 years strong. So I don't know about you. Maybe we're closer now than before because we're both podcasters. Top podcasters, I should add. But it's a little shady. It's a little shady. You know. Then I was like, well. That's weird because Leo be texting me. I don't know.

I feel like we're good. I just don't text back a lot, but maybe that's why. I think that is the problem when I don't text back people. This is when I get in trouble. But honestly, I don't have the capacity sometimes. And it's not him. I don't text you back. You don't text us back. When you don't text us back, I'm always like, Oscar's not texting back. There was last week, we didn't hear from you. I was like, I don't know. Just Oscar. Sometimes he just doesn't text back. But I do get a little concerned. I'm like, it's kind of weird he hasn't texted back to.

Both of us. So I was like, huh. But no, in general, I don't like to text back either. I'm very much like, uh. I have to force myself to even open your text because I'm just like, okay, well, it's like we're going to see each other work related. You know, Friday's coming. Let's plan it. But I do get anxiety opening up a text. And definitely, yeah. I definitely haven't responded to a few Leos. So maybe that's why he was a little sad. Because he told me he was sensitive here. He said he's a Pisces. He says he's sensitive when people don't write back. And I try to tell him I'm not a good texter and I'm not a good friend. That's why I have no friends. So.

I don't know what to tell you, but. That kind of makes sense. Yeah. Because I guess when I read that, I was like, is it because of, like, when he had, like, the. Oh. The plus size clothing thing. And we were just like, you know, fatties need to dress cute, too. Right. Right. So I was like, is it that? And he didn't even apologize. He even told me, like, that it was taken out of context and blah, blah, blah. He was telling me, like, what he meant. Oh, okay. So it wasn't that. Yeah. That was the only thing I could think of. I was like. Don't worry. Yeah.

Leo, I love him. I mean, he has been a little problematic this year, but honestly, like, I love him not even in spite of it, but almost because of it. Because I'm like, you know what? I know. Getting yourself into hot water. I've been there. I've done that. It just happens. So, yeah. Okay. Well, no hard feelings here. I mean, we're not going to – we can't be friends. We can't be friends, but you can be in my Netflix show. We can't be friends because I don't have friends. I'm not a good friend. I don't trust people. We talked about this. Okay? Look at me and Shane Dawson. Okay? Like, friendships just don't work. But –

You can be in my TV show and I love you. And you can keep texting and I'll try. I know you're a little more sensitive to people and you told me this. You're a Pisces, so I'll try and text back. But I also have two kids under two and it's actually very, very hard. People need to adjust expectations because expectation is the source of disappointment. You know what I mean? There's no reason to be...

I think I never got it when people had kids. I never was like, who cares? Like, your work, you know? Like, I never thought about it too. So if you don't have kids, it's hard to understand, especially two under two. And I was like, oh, this is actually very difficult. Even with us, with two of us, I'm like, I don't know how people do it with just like one kid.

It's hard. It's just hard to watch two kids at once, under two, because they just be wild and both of them. One's not spitting up, one's jumping off her chair or something. It's just like a lot happening. We always say it's not personal. It's just Trish. It's just Trish. That's right. It's nothing personal. I still love you, Leo. It's fine.

He probably loves Tana a little more, which I get. We got to go where the cloud is. And I think Tana would be the first to respect that. Yeah, you go. And that's like if she was like the king, I'm like the duke. I've learned the hierarchy of the royal family now. Because of Bridgerton. Yes. There's a duke on the first season. Then there's a Viscount, which is Jonathan Bailey. And we don't know what level that is. I think that's below a duke though. Because everyone was very impressed like, oh, she's marrying a duke. So I think that's above the Viscount. And what other ones are there? I don't even know.

Prince. Oh, there was a prince in the first season. Baron. Oh, yeah. I don't know what any of these people are, but I only want a duke or a king, and I feel like she'd be the king and I'd be the duke. I'm just in my head. I mean, Trixie's retiring. She has sabbatical, so I feel like I can take the duke position because she'd probably be up there like king and queen or something like that, too. Probably Brittany's up there for real. Brittany Brodsky's probably above us, too. All right, whatever. I'll be a baron. I'll be the Featherton woman. Not Penelope, but the mom.

She's very beautiful, by the way. She's very beautiful. Go down a peg. I think at least you have the excuse of babies. I'm neurodivergent. So that's always my excuse. That's a good one. It is. I also like always have a – my problem is I always have a video like playing because like I always just need to have like something playing. So I never see notifications because like my phone is never like off. Like my phone is just always on playing a video. Oh, so –

Oh, so what do you mean it doesn't show when you play videos? I don't know. Like, I'll have it just, like, playing. Like, I'll leave it somewhere and then I just hear it. You don't want the notification to interrupt what you're watching or listening to. Got it. Because otherwise every second there's a pain. Because I'm not even watching the video.

YouTube like I just have like a something playing in the background oh I see yeah for hours I can never have like silence even if I'm like editing I always have like something playing it's crazy we would we could never live together I need silence in the glam room I need silence even photo shoots I'm like can we have no music like I just love silence I don't like it in the car I don't like it in the I need like silence I can't listen to like music when I'm trying to focus it has to be some like random like four hour like video on something just like playing in the background yeah interesting it helps you focus more

Kind of, yeah. You're like very cute, but tall. I'm fine with a short guy too. It doesn't matter. Sorry. I don't want to discriminate. Huh? What? You're in the market. Well, I'm telling the short kings out there that it's okay because I feel like every woman wants a six foot man and I just want to let the short guys know it's okay. I'm not in the market, but damn. I'm doing it for my leprechaun. Keep the faith alive. Yeah, yeah.

I'm just letting people know because you're very tall and handsome. And I was saying, ooh, you're like very cute when you're tall. So I don't want them to think like that's your superior because you're tall. We love short kings too. Shorties can be chads too. Yes. This is the moral of the story. What is a chad? It's like a hot like superior man. Oh, is that? It's like the man you kind of want to go after. When they have the memes with like the chiseled face. Yeah. I don't think I've seen that. I just heard Gypsy say chad and I was like, I'm kind of confused.

Wasn't Glenn Powell Chad in Scream Queens? Yeah. That's what I think of. I'm always like, Chad. Like strong, like really like masculine features, like strong jawline, like, you know, strapping guy. But usually you want to use it for yourself. Like, you know, it's like... Someone else calls you, yeah. Why? Who used it for themselves? She, a gypsy. Like, you don't use it. Yeah. Like, you usually don't. She's like, I'm kidding. It's Chad and you're not. Yeah. It's like, it's almost like becomes...

Like another compliment. Are you a Chad? What's the opposite? What's the opposite of a Chad? That's a good question. I don't know. Can there just be like a normal? You're like a Da Vinci. You're like an artist. I'm not dating a Chad. I'm dating a Da Vinci.

Is that new? Did I just come up with that? They can be like stay pressed quesadilla. That's not. Okay. Well, I mean, maybe press is more of a start, but maybe like a press like a hair butter. A juice. Stay pressed. Oh, that's a good one too. Say juice pressed. Okay. I still have the fuzz on me, but it's fine. All right. Oh, wow.

All right. Wrapping up with our... We'll do a follow-up to last week's episode. Yes. We've been following the Cody Cole case very closely. Very closely. I don't even remember what we talked about. I remember. You don't remember? I remember. Oh, okay. It was pretty serious. It was pretty dark, pretty heavy.

Yeah, it's very interesting. So obviously we talked about how Tana mentioned on the canceled live show that she had sexual relations with Cody Cohen. She was just 17. He was 25. And it's kind of been in this weird bubble, right? Because I feel like some people have talked about it. It's gotten some like mainstream pickup. Like I think I want to say like a Rolling Stone, an article like an outlet like that, like a Rolling Stone, a BuzzFeed, like a Business Insider. Like it's getting some pickup.

But it hasn't really hit like the mainstream yet. So Cody's been pretty much like skating by. I did see though that like his – he had to start like if you comment something with Tana's name on it like on YouTube and Instagram, it doesn't go through. And like on Reddit, he has like his moderators like removing anything talking about it. I thought you're not allowed to like moderate your own Reddit. I thought that was the whole thing. So it's not like one of –

it's not him moderating but one of the moderators is like an employee it's like their email is like tiny me gang or whatever and like they went to duke with cody so it's like yeah someone that's so funny that's like if you're the moderator for like i don't know i don't know the

I don't know the rules of Reddit. I'm not on Reddit. I don't really know either. It's toxic. But, like, if we had a JustTrish Reddit and I was like, Oscar, you're the moderator. Delete anything about this, this, and this. Actually, I think whoever made our Reddit made me a moderator, but I don't know how to moderate. So, I guess that helps. Oh, really? Oh, yeah. Weird. Okay. Like, I get putting it in the comments. Obviously, that's something you control. But I feel like with our Reddit or something, like, you shouldn't be able to control that, right? Like... Yes. I mean, it depends. I hate Reddit, by the way, but... There's some, like...

subreddits that, like, you want to keep, like, positive. So for us, like, anything that's, like, just, like, people being terrible, like, gets removed, you know? So, like, I guess there's that. But this isn't, like, just... This is something that he, like, allegedly did. You know? It's not, like... That's true. It doesn't, like...

And you're like trying to hide it. It's like, like just address it. If you're going to hide it, I get it. If you're going to hide it, but like address it first and then just like block it because you're like, I addressed it once. That's it. But if you're not addressing it at all, like then what the hell? Yeah. I'm interested to see like where it goes if anywhere. I feel like this is my problem. So many of like the commentary bros, they're just seen as like the funny, nice, funny,

commentary bros and like there's stuff that like they do that gets so like you know pushed aside and like they don't really get like held accountable just because they're likable like little white guys yeah and like their fan bases are just like let them just talk about whatever it's like if we say one thing wrong like i'm just like oh my god we talk about no i'm gay is this i'll say it right like yeah it's like it's so odd to me and then the sad thing too like obviously there's a lot of like channels fans who are like still

putting up the good fight but then a lot of like Cody's or even like casual fans are like well it's kind of like what we talked about last week like well it's Tana like and it yeah it's like that whole narrative of like you know you have to be like the perfect victim for people to care I guess like yeah like with the Wilbur like the Minecraft boy that the one that happened like a couple months ago when like his girlfriend kind of

kind of like talked about how he was abusive towards her like she's just like such a sweet person like very sweet demure because i was trying to see like well why did everyone like because wilbur's fans were like crazy you know like he had that like it was like the one direction of minecraft right like a lot of young girls who would like defend him always but it's like with when shelby shovel came forward like everyone like believed her right away and then i was thinking like what the difference is and i guess because she's just like

her whole brand is just being like a wholesome gamer of course yeah I think that it is it because Tana's always been loud outspoken she used to do like sexual story time so people are just like well it's Tana you know like and that's but that's the that's just our world and I don't know if that's like ever gonna get better I feel like it's always been like that like if you're a super sexual being it's like well like me like anybody it's just like it's like well that's just her you know what I mean you know and I feel like you get that a lot well we'll

well trisha makes fun of herself or trisha's this you know whatever like nantana the same way so it's like they won't she won't care she's that she's that girl she talks about all the guys she's hooked up with she talks about this you know so i think it just gets discredited when it's someone who has like who's a sexual being or something like that which sucks yeah because it's also like you know not just again not her i'll put it back on me being like you know why am i the way and why was i so hypersexual it's like okay because people were like doing weird sexual shit with me at 13 at 12 you know what i mean it's like that's why i am and then he's just kind of like

Puts you on that path of something. And not to say that's her. I mean, maybe she's just like enjoys whatever. I'm not. That's why I'm not speaking for Tana. But I'm just saying in general, like people should have more sympathy for those people because it's like, OK, why are they like that? You know what I mean? Yeah. And it's like it's frustrating. It's like seeing those comments and this day and age, like people like automatically discrediting Tana just because they like her.

But it's like – That's how it is. Yeah. But it will flip at some point. Like it will and it's like maybe not publicly, maybe not whatever. But I do feel like it – I don't know. It balances itself out somehow. You know what I mean? Like I feel like at some point someone has to like take accountability. They have to talk. It's kind of like the iDubbbz thing, right? Like so many years later, iDubbbz is like, oh, what I did was kind of like actually – and like apologized to Tana and this whole like redemption thing. And not to say that's going to happen necessarily with this, but maybe, maybe something –

maybe it won't go away. You know what I mean? Maybe it'll always be there looming and I feel like, again, all he can do is address it at this point. Yeah. I didn't see the Jeff FM with Hannah yet. Did she talk? I saw that it was the thumbnail, but... It was the thumbnail? Yeah, like, it was like Cody's silhouette was in the thumbnail. Oh, okay.

Wait, what do you mean? Just like dark? It was like an outline, like a shadow of Cody. How do you know it was him? Like the little hair. Oh, I see, I see. No, they were. He brought it up and like they were about to talk about it. I don't think she like went into like any depth about it because I just saw clips online. I know. I'm interested to see like

It's funny because everyone assumes like she's so like drama or whatever, but this is something that she has like alluded to, but has never like gone in. I saw a clip of like old canceled, like, you know, season one or something where she was like, yeah, like she was talking about like her experiences with guys and stuff. She's like, yeah, like I was 17. And like, we was like hooking up with like Cody Co, JC Kaelin, 17 or 18. Like she like went and like added. Yeah. I feel like, yeah. And that made me feel bad because I...

Like you could like see the – she looks like off camera and then adds the 18. Oh, yeah. No, for sure. And I feel like I've known people that come here too. Like they just kind of like say like, oh, it's 18. But then I'm like – I do the math and I'm kind of like, are you sure? But you know, you just – you want to cover – you also think – I also know this too. Like you also want to like cover yourself, right? Like you think like, well, I get in trouble because I was 17, which is not the case. Like a 17-year-old will not get in trouble. It's the adult. But then you're like maybe I don't want them to like – because that is true. What if Cody is like, yeah, it happened. I'm sorry. But it's also like –

But I don't think you can go to jail unless you like press – I don't really know how it happens. It's all sticky and icky and gross. But yeah, it's kind of interesting. And yeah, I think they switched it to trying to protect them too or just not make it a big thing. But he has 18. Yeah, and that's also like such as – like her scandals are always like –

like a little silly at the end of the day you know what i mean like this one's more serious it's like i mean actual criminal so like everything else is kind of just like uh i mean like obviously like you know deaths to the you know wine lady was like interesting it was like some people thought it was very serious it was like you know it was still kind of in comparison a little lighter obviously not a real threat not very real yeah but this one is real so i don't know like

And she hasn't talked about it on Canceled, so it's like it is one of those things where maybe she wants to let it go. That's what we're going with. I don't know either. I'm interested to see, like, it, wow.

how what like her feelings are about it because yeah I like to see her because even if it's not like touched on camera I just always like to know like her feelings yeah make sure she's like okay yeah yeah that was always my concern I was like oh like you know it's and then when it does get blown up again sometimes it can be a little like anxiety yeah because it's no obviously if it's something that she wanted to like you know talk about like a big like talk about and have like action like you know people like turning on him it's something that she could have brought up literally like at any time yeah or talk about and canceled again now that it's blown up but she hasn't yeah yeah um

But I don't know. It's one of those things where it's like every time like I hear about something like this, like I saw an older video of you where it was like – maybe it was in the Tati dumb as hell one or whatever. It's like you can't – like you know information or like people tell you things but like you can't speak on it until – Yeah. You can't like expose someone else's story. Yeah. Oh, that's for sure me in like a lot of situations because again, I feel like a lot of people in the best way because it is a safe space like tell me so much stuff when they come here and then you're kind of almost like, OK.

Okay, but I don't know like what's true, what's not. You know what I mean? And it's like, yeah, something like really serious, right? You report it to the cops or, you know, whatever. But it's – someone was just talking about this like how – oh, Tati, I think, was talking about like it wasn't her place to report it to the cops or something. I was like, who is she?

let's just tell you about this. You know, it wasn't my place to report to authorities and I was just like, okay, but like, and it was something she didn't even talk about in the video. So I was like, okay, well, what was it? Like, if it is something you should tell the cops, like maybe you should tell the cops, you know what I mean? And in the off chance you're wrong, you could just say like, someone just told me this. I just want to make sure someone's okay. Yeah. I guess depending on the scope of the situation. But in this case, again, I don't know. I don't know how it works. Like,

I'm sure lots of 17-year-olds have slept with older guys. It's like, I think maybe parents have suppressed charges or something. I don't – I think that's how it works. I'm not sure. I don't know how it works either. But it's so creepy. And it's like – I don't know. Like, I don't know. I hear stuff about, like, other guys that you wouldn't think. And it's like – but it's not, like, my place to sit here and be like, yeah, you wouldn't believe what this guy – Yeah. What someone told me this guy did. But it's – I don't know. So, like, it's frustrating because, like, I just – I obviously want, like, the guys who do shit and stuff to, like, have their –

their moment of like, you know, karmic retribution. But it's like, it's so hard because obviously it's such a process for them

the victims to like you know sit there and talk about it and have i mean look at tana she mentioned it like off-handed and like you know the show everyone's like i don't believe her right and she probably just she has so much going on in her life and sometimes it's like me too there's so many things i would love to talk about like in the past but i'm like god there's so much like good going on that's like maybe i just want to keep focused and she said it's so off-handed like in a show where she thought wasn't recorded and it was like part of a joke and she i can say that because of this like you could tell it was like a trauma and she just said it briefly so it's like yeah she's on a good trajectory so she's like maybe i don't need to have

this right now. Yeah, but I so badly want him to have his, like, his karmic justice, though, because it is, like, so cheap. It happens. It always happens. Like I said, it always comes back around, even if it's something, like, that serious, you know what I mean? Like, it does happen. Like I said, with the I-dubs, with everything, like, something usually tends to happen, and me too, I've had a lot of karmic retribution. It's just, like, you know, there's always stuff that balances it out, even if you don't see it, even if it's something equal, like, it happens. Yeah.

And again, nothing like terrible to happen to him, but I'm just saying like, you know, in general. Yeah, it's just frustrating seeing like everyone still be like, I love Cody Wholesome boy, like DJ. But we've seen it switch, you know what I mean? Yeah.

even if it has nothing to do with Tana we've seen it switch like even the David Dobrik stuff like you know just you see the switch sometimes and even at the David thing David and Jeff obviously had nothing to do with me and it's like I always will feel bad for Jeff that's why I have such like a bond to him and stuff like that because I feel like that's traumatic and I knew something like that would happen and it just sucks that it happened but at the same time it's almost like well now people are seeing what I was saying you know it kind of gives like a voice and truth to like what I had been saying and we talk about that Jeff whatever and it's again I don't wish it happened to Jeff you know but sometimes that stuff kind of

comes about and for other people to see and it sucks and I think Jeff will get his you know good you know good from it whether he wins the lawsuit or not I think he'll be able to be a winner I guess at the end somehow I don't know how it works morally at least yeah morally vindication his own talk show I don't know what it is but I'm sure something good can come from that and David obviously will get his if not already as far as again just like

What is it? Accountability. Not like I'm doing something bad. Oh, yeah. I'm not like, oh, something bad's coming. And maybe it already has. You know, maybe he lost, you know, that – you know, maybe this stuff has been lost financially. And I think that's what hurts him the most is like money stuff with David. So –

Obviously the lawsuit. Obviously all this stuff. So I don't know. We'll see. We'll see. It does suck but it always bounces out. That's why I really want to be a good person just for me and the universe because I'm like, ah, you know, being a – even sometimes a crappy person, you're just like, ooh, like I felt that. You know what I mean? Even if it was unintentional. Even if like me exposing someone was because I was hurt. It's like, oh, I still reaped that, you know? And I think it's just –

to be a good person in general but also just universally so the universe aligns with you and is not trying to like hold you back which is really just you holding yourself back. And I think obviously like

like part of humanity is like messing up but then you know being able to take accountability and like acknowledge especially when you have victims to acknowledge your victims you know even if it's just even if it's just tana like maybe that because like i said it's like sometimes it just helps to get that because if someone apologized right it's kind of like coley and stuff it's like what more can i say she apologized to me not to everyone else but like i'm like okay she's apologized i'm like that's it i still think she's but it's

but it's like you know I don't know yeah we'll see we'll still be following the story closely we'll still be following hopefully everything's okay I'll see Tina this week and yeah it was never something I was gonna text her over I was gonna be like let's just text about it like hopefully I'll just see her yeah we always have a little talk before even if it's not on but we love you guys if you're not on you're off that's a Hilary Duff

If the light isn't on, it's off. Yes. Thanks for being my beer, Kyokun. You're so much hotter than him. And I think he's very hot, but I think you're... Oh, that's good. The wink. He's good. He's a good actor. Oscar, thank you for being here, even on a Sunday. I hope my thing happens. It's awkward. We'll just be sitting here with nothing. But, you know, it was a slow Hot Topics week, so thank you guys for being here. Go to patreon.com slash justtrush if you want to see the extended. We'll see you next time. Bye.

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