Ted Nivison Teaches Trisha Paytas About Space, Gooning, Science & MORE!
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Welcome back to Just Trish. We have a very special guest and probably our most sought after for months and months and months. And we finally made it happen. The one and only Ted Nipison. Hello. Hello, everyone. Did we say your name? You did, actually. You did. Over the years, I've been surprised. I used to think it was easy to pronounce. And I've learned as I've grown as a content creator that apparently a lot of people have trouble with it or just don't know where to go with it. It sounds fake. Yeah.

Yeah. No, I've gotten that too. People think that it's like a play on the word television. Yes. Which you hate. I saw that on a podcast. Someone said that and you're like, absolutely not. It's not that at all. Yeah. No, I was like, it's my name. It's my God given name. I love it. I looked it up and I'm like, but you could have gone by like Ted Kennedy, which would have been cool because you sound like a Kennedy. So that's crazy because my- That's your name, right? Well, my middle name is Kennedy. Right. So Theodore- Oh, okay. No, that's how I knew. I was like, you could have chosen- I thought you were saying that and you were like, it's like the guy. No,

I looked up your name for the gate and I was like, wait, his last name is Nivison. But then I saw Kennedy in there and I was like, oh, you could have sounded like a Kennedy, like Theodore Kennedy. Yeah, it's a real presidential full name going on there, except for the Nivison part. That's the one that confuses. That throws it off. Yeah, throws the whole thing. What is it? What is it? Like the last name? Yeah. It's Scottish, I think. Okay, you don't know. No 23andMe. Well, it's Scottish. It means saintly bone.

Saintly bone. Saintly bone. Which these days now could be perceived in a different way, but I don't know. You could be like. Like what? Big bones? I'm about to have a saintly bone. Wait, what? What?

Is that a thing? Like boning? Yeah. Yeah. Okay. That's cool. Get in the bone zone. In the saintly bone zone. We have such straight men energy right now. It's crazy. We've never really had like a straight, straight man here. It's so weird. Yeah. It's bizarre. No. You know, it's one of those things where, you know, there have been moments where I've been like, could I? And I'm like,

Have you tried? Have I tried? No, I haven't. No. Well, you never know until you try. I've been flirted with before, but you don't know. It's just, you know. I feel like straight guys like you, but girlies also like you. Gays obviously like you. You really just appeal to the masses. I'm so glad. I'm so glad. I'm, I'm,

I'm for the gays and the girlies. And theys, yeah. And theys. Well, I think it's your height. I think when you're so humongous, like we were just like taking pictures with you. We're just like laughing because we're like, oh my God, this is so crazy. Yeah, no, it's weird too because it's like, you know, you go through your whole life just being like, I'm my size. This is normal. And then like, I'll see a photo of me next to someone and I'm like, I'm a

fucking humongous person. Huge. You might be their tallest. How tall are you? I'm 6'4". Do you hate the question when people ask you that? No. Because people always are like, I hate being like, how tall are you and stuff like that. Oh, no. I mean, it's like, it's one of those things for, you know, it's, I've gotten used to it over the years. Yeah. I've been 6'4 for a while, so. Yeah. Yeah. Really? What age did you tap out at? I don't know. Honestly, sometime in high school. So I was like walking around in high school being straight up 6'4", which is...

Weird, but yeah. Were you like gangly? Were you like, or were you like filled? Oh, I was so lanky. Yeah, no, I was a lanky motherfucker. Like the only thing that's changed since I reached my full height as like I've gotten, like I've grown like wider, like my neck is like maybe twice as... Oh, I love that. No, no, seriously, like if...

I could show you like photos of me when I was like younger and it's just, I've just got a really skinny neck. Oh. Yeah. Well, that just feels, I feel with age. I mean, you're not like old, but I feel like with age, you just fill out orange. Oh yeah. And then, and you know, all the weight even when I got so tall so fast. I'm so lucky. Yeah.

You can eat whatever. I used to. I used to. Now I actually have to think about it as of like maybe 2021, which sucks. Because I love, dude, I fucking love food. Well, this is why I got excited. So we should talk about how you got here first. Because I got excited. I did a deep dive in you in this past week because Oscar talks about you all the time. Frequently. Frequently. Frequently. To everybody. We had a guest yesterday.

- I was like, okay, we love. - Really? - Yeah. - Wait, so how often do I come up? - Every podcast. - You're deep in the lore, yeah. - Really? - Yeah, when you first started doing guests, Trisha asked who my dream guest was and I was like, Ted. - Right, and I've seen that clip. - You saw it, so you know. - Well, so the way that I initially found out about this was it was like,

I had gotten a message in a group chat from my college acapella group. Uh, I found clips of that. Oh yeah. Yeah. I got asked, I have so many questions about that, but yeah, we'll go to that. And basically, uh, they were, they sent me that clip and they were like, uh,

It was my friend Jamila who sent that and it was like, "Ted, you need to do this." - Shout out Jamila. - Jamila, yes, oh my gosh. - Yeah, shout out Jamila. I actually, I texted the group before I drove over here and I was like, "Jamila, do you want me to get a video of Trisha saying hi to you?" - Oh my God, yes! - Well, I mean, honestly, she's probably watching it right now, so. - Jamila! - What up, Jam? - We'll sing a little acapella. Can we sing acapella later on for her? We'll do a little like tribute to your acapella. - We could try. - We're singing. - I don't know how well that's gonna work out.

Ask every guest to sing. And I'm like, Ted, of all people, will do it. Yeah. And then I was like, oh, yeah, you know, maybe. Maybe. It was just one of those things where I was, like, busy at the time. I was like, I wasn't sure. And then later on, another friend of mine who's a Twitch streamer, Peach Jars, they also messaged me. And they were like, Ted, Trisha talks about you on, like, every single podcast. Oh, my God. And I was like, what is –

right now. It just wasn't like a, like, cause I've been, I've been aware of you, you know, for all the, all these years and stuff. But I was, I was like, I, it was just a weird, like kind of like mixing of worlds, you know, doesn't make sense at all. Like even seeing you stay here, I'm just like, this is so bizarre. We're so different on the internet, just like different worlds. Oh yeah. No, from the same side for me where it's like, I've seen you online, but then it's, it's

it's always weird when you make that connection and you see the person in the flesh. Yeah. You know? That's how I felt seeing you walk in today because I was like, I'm really newly familiar because of Oscar. And so I was like, but we're kind of getting into your world now. We have Pokimane coming on Sunday. So I feel like we're like tapping into this new cool like gamer world. Pokimane's awesome. Yeah. So we're,

excited about it but Oscar yeah so your friend though your mutual friend oh yeah I'm surprised now I'm like really sus because David Alvarez I know that he knows you so I DM'd him and I was like David what can you do like I'll literally promote you every episode of Hot Topics I never told you that but I was like I'll bring you up all the time maybe just tell Ted to come on I don't know if I spoke to David or

all about. Well, I've been shouting him out thinking that he was the reason. The reason to make the connection when we still love him. Shout out David Alvarez. No, I love David Alvarez, but yeah, no, I don't know if we ever spoke. Maybe we did and then I was like, I don't know. Oh, he's like, Ted, yeah, I'm so close with Ted. That's my birthday twin. Well, that's true. We do have the same birthday. He's my homie. He was really like making a scene. He was selling it.

He sold me a dream. Well, we got him out here anyways. He's been busy though. I mean, he's been doing all those shows. He does the Jubilee stuff. Jubilee-esque kind of stuff and it's doing well. But, you know, he seems like he's a busy boy. So maybe. He didn't have time to reach out. Wait, so how did it work then? So your friends said you have to do this, but did you see Oscar's DMs? Yeah, I think he M'ed you. He just randomly DMed him. I'm like, how did this happen?

How does this even happen? How does this work? Sometimes I look at the top request things because I always get afraid that somebody's reached out about something and then it's been several weeks and then I've missed it. So sometimes I'll get a pang of anxiety and I'll be like, look at the top request. And I saw that there and I was like, ah! There it is. Oh, you did a top request? Wow. Wow, that's cool. Well, yeah, you're like Verifieder.

I am. Yeah. Oh, I didn't know. Congrats. That's everything. Wow, you didn't know. No, I didn't know. You guys didn't celebrate when you got verified on Instagram? No, it happened kind of randomly, actually. Recently or a while ago? No, last year. Okay. Yeah, but I don't really post that much on Instagram, so I don't really care that much. But I'm glad at least...

got me you. So that helps. Yeah. Wait, how did it happen? Where was he DMing you like a bunch, like in a row or like, I'm so curious. Like you're just like, he said, just come on my podcast. Hundreds of messages. Yes. Yeah. No, he was like, please, please for the love. No, no, it was, it was one. And it was like, it was like something like Ted, we gotta get,

on the pod. It was pretty short and sweet. It was, yeah. Because I also just didn't think you would see it. So I'm like, I'm just going to have fun and like be silly. This was like after Trisha got a DM from The Weeknd. And after that, I was like, I'm going to follow my dreams. And like anything can happen. You got a DM from The Weeknd? Yeah, he was my dream guest. So I was like, well, let's manifest our dream guest. So I said The Weeknd and then he DM'd me in the next like couple days. And I was like, wow, that worked so quickly. Did you have him on? No, he doesn't do podcasts, but.

You never know. We'll start with you. So why did he DM? He just like, thank you for the support. And it was him because then his team was like, do you want to promote Fortnite for the weekend? And I was like, yeah, sure. And they sent me clothes from his music video shoot and stuff. Oh, okay. I don't know. It gave us hope. And so then his dream guest was you. So I didn't know how it worked. I was like, how did this happen? But then you didn't see the DM until like six months later or something. Was it six months? No, it was.

No, it was kind of recent. Well, maybe I unsent it because I did see in our DMs that it was like there was only one, but I had DMed you before. I would randomly reply to your stories, though, and be like, come on, just Trish. I do that with Hassan now, too. I'm like, now Ted has given me the confidence to just like...

He's our straight guy ambassador. And he's straight man. I'm always like, oh, I don't know. I get a little weirded out by him. But you know what's funny? We usually hate straight men. Like, there's not many that we talk nicely about. So you're one of them. But why? Why? Well, I know why I like you now. As soon as I saw you do musical theater in high school, I was like, absolutely, you can come on. I did. He doesn't like musical theater. And I'm like, how do you not like musical theater? You're gay. But it's like...

You know what I mean? And I was like, wait, okay, this straight guy who we usually hate straight men loves musical theater. I don't know. The first video of yours I saw was the Rainforest Cafe one. It's a classic. And then it really is synonymous with your brand now, I think. Yeah. And then it kind of just went from there. And you have a baby girl vibe to you, I think. Baby girl.

Baby girl vibe. Very Jacob Elordi. Yeah. Very Jacob Elordi. You're going to have to explain more what this means. Baby girl? You're baby girl coded for sure. Yeah, for sure. That's why you're here. This sounds like a great compliment, but I still have no fucking idea what that means. You don't have them today, but I know you love bracelets and necklaces. Well, this is a new development. This is a new development going on here as of like January where I decided to just like revamp my whole closet. Like I...

To be honest, I was probably more straight-coated pre-2024 because I still had a closet full of shirts that I had been wearing since I was in high school. Oh, no. And so, I don't know. I recently just started – I call it my fashion era. Yeah. Yeah.

is what it is. My co-hosts on my podcast don't seem to agree with it as much. They usually give me shit for it, but I feel good. You look good. And like, we love the co-hosts of your podcast, but also like, they're not like fashionistas, you know what I mean? They wear a t-shirt all the time. You know, you're having flannel today. You're giving loafer, you're giving accessories. I got the loafers. I got the accessories. Accessories, honestly, the accessory scenario kind of changed everything. I was like,

That's what was needed, you know? It levels up for sure. I know you gave your co-host a bracelet and I was like, that's what he needs. You know, like you just need that extra something, that extra zhuzh. Yeah, a little tucker, yeah. Yeah. No, because I was, we were on a trip together like recently and he was, because he had been part of the podcast they were like giving me shit about all the time and I was like, we were out for drinks and I was like, try this on. And I put it on for a second and he was like, well, because his wedding ring is also gold so it was a gold bracelet so he was like, oh.

Oh. And then I was like, okay, I'm going to take a minute. He was like, wait, wait, wait, hold on. Give me like a, give me a couple, let me wear it for the rest of the night. I'm like, okay. Next day comes and he's like, let me wear it for the rest of the trip. And then I was like, damn it. At the end of the trip, I had to like basically pry it off him, but he was like, he was like, oh man, but I really want that. So I eventually went and got more bracelets. And then the next time I saw him, when I went out there to see the eclipse with him, I gave him, I gave it back to him. That's baby girl coded right there that you thought about that. That

The fact that you even knew to match the medals. Oh, that was just by chance. Oh, you didn't know. Yeah, no. Because it was just a bracelet I was wearing and then his wedding ring just happened to be a gold band. And you just got into it in January because you said your birthday was January 6th, so you're Capricorn. Yes. Yeah, right before Elvis's birthday. Oh, 16. Oh, okay. Yeah, you're still at the end of Capricorn.

corn then, right? Yeah. And it's pretty close to Elvis' birthday, which is cool. So I feel like that is like the whole like revolutionary, that's where like the straight guys get cool. You know what I mean? Like Elvis was straight, but he was like cool and artsy. You know what I mean? I think I'm tracking this. Yeah. You know what I mean? He was cool. Thank you. I know. He kind of got a cancellation. He got canceled. He was like up and cool. He also died too, which was kind of the biggest cancellation of all. That's true. And yeah, when people try to cancel dead people. Cancelation by the universe. You know? Just they're gone. So there's nothing. Yeah.

- That is true, that is the ultimate cancellation. I guess when I die there will be people that will be happy, they're like finally she's canceled. - That'd be a crazy way to react to someone's death. You hear someone's suicide, oh he got canceled. It's like, oh no, he died. - I kind of love that though, that's like a softer blow I feel. You're uncancelable though, you're not problematic at all. - I'd like to think that I'm not, I'm not, you know.

But I wouldn't say I'm like, if there was something that I did that I would deserve a cancellation, I imagine that I would also be susceptible to the cancellation, you know? So how do you avoid it? How do you stop saying things that are like offensive? How do I stop saying things? I guess I just don't, I don't know. I try not to. It's just not offensive. It just doesn't come up. Like, what do you mean? Like being racist or something? No.

a comedian and so how do you not like say jokes that are like whoa it's like too far I just you know I've you know I've got so many great you know racial jokes locked in my brain and I'm just like you know I'm cursing at the at the

leftist mind virus that just won't let me speak my mind. It's something I struggle with on the daily. I'm basically... Holding it back. Yeah, my lip is quivering just waiting. You just want to say it's so bad. Oh, God, I want to be racist so bad, but I can't. That's sort of my thesis on the whole thing. It's your cross to care.

Yeah. Oh, it's my cross the barriers. Exactly. Just don't be racist. That's good advice, I feel. And you're kind of mysterious, though, too, because like. Oh, that's fun. I've never been called mysterious before. Because we are yappers. I love this part of your show. This is great. You're tall. I'm going to get called mysterious tall. Wow, this is great. Uncancellable baby girl. Uncancellable baby girl. Mysterious, uncancellable baby girl that's tall. I think because we're just yappers, we literally talk for, our episodes are three hours and they're every week.

And I feel like because you- Oh, so we're locked in for three hours right now. Yeah, get ready. Sometimes we do, but we'll cut short. No, no, don't worry. I'm kidding.

But like – I don't got anything else going on. OK. Perfect. Because your podcast is like shorter and your topics are just like – ours are about like pop culture stuff. So sometimes we have like hot takes or whatever. But yours, you kind of just talk about like funny things. You're like silly guys. And then your YouTube channel, you're silly. That is a little bit by design. I think that we specifically kind of avoid talking about topics that are like heavier and stuff like that. Like we don't –

I don't know. It's one of those things where I don't think either Shalott and I are interested in talking about people who got canceled or talking about drama and stuff because it's just like, I don't know. I mean, it's okay to do that. Don't get me wrong. But I think just with the way that we go about it, it's like, I don't know. We just want to keep things light, you know? At least how I am personally. I just wouldn't want someone to get mad.

I don't know. Even if that person deserved to be shit on or whatever. I don't know. I just don't like the idea of someone getting mad at me. It's a lot of anxiety, that's for sure. I'd be okay with Hitler was mad at me. He's also canceled. Yeah. He was canceled. He's like triple canceled. Yeah, yeah, yeah. There's no coming back. Super canceled.

I guess that's good advice. But that's the thing. I tried to be drama-free for a couple years because it is a lot. Seems like you go through phases of the moon. I do. That's a really good analogy. Yeah, for sure. Because it's just like you have a talent, right? You don't need to talk about drama. But when I was drama-free, nobody cared. So I was like, let's talk about people again. You know what I mean? We talk about a little bit more pop culture these days of stuff that's going on. But also, I don't know if you've experienced this at all or –

or even you like, like as you've done more of the podcast, but I don't know, as, as it's become more of my job and it's like, I feel like I'm less tapped. Like I don't have my ear to the ground as much of what the fuck's

the fuck's going on in the world, you know, or like what's going on on the internet. I feel like back when I wasn't a YouTuber, I like knew all, everything that was going on. Really? And now I feel like I'm working so much that I'm like, what the fuck's going on in this world? You've got to make time. No, I didn't know anything that was happening in the world. And then when we started the podcast, I was like, I need to like literally schedule out two hours a day to TikTok. Otherwise, I have no idea what's happening. But like I have to do more. So you go on TikTok. That's like you clock an

Yeah, for sure. We film Hot Topics every week and I'm like, I don't know what's happening. Let me just, so every day I have to give at least like two hours to like, okay, let me see what's happening in the world. How do you find your, like, what do you search? How do you go about it? Whatever on the FYP, right? Do you scroll on TikTok? Are you like a scroller? On the FYP? Yeah.

Because if you see it come up enough, like the Try Guys, right? Never heard of them before, but they were like on every single like scroll I was on. And I was like, okay, these guys, let's talk about them. You know what I mean? I do a little bit of scrolling every now and then. So you have to see the same thing, but you're probably on like science TikTok or something like, right? Like eclipse TikTok. Wow. I'm probably on science because I got circular glasses. Well, Andrew,

You're like an intellectual. Thank you, yeah. You went to college. I am an intellectual. That's why we have this today. There was a scientific, it was a scientific experiment going every Margaritaville. That was a study. I mean, that is silly goofy. It is funny the contrast you have between silly goofy. We got a grant from Harvard to doing that too. Wait, actually? No. Oh. It's like, wow. Because it was kind of like everything. When I watched this, I was like, I wish I could have thought of this. Or your Fiverr videos. I was like, this is kind of like.

It's kind of like groundbreaking. Yeah, of course. The Fiverr videos, wow. That was back when I didn't have really a notion of what I... Like I wanted to do commentary, but I wanted to figure out the angle in which I could do it. It was kind of designed after...

It was after Wow Wow No it was Because he used to do A series called Kickstarter Crap Oh I didn't know I only know him From like content crap Like drama So I was like That's a weird connection Yeah yeah Okay

Kickstarter crap. He would choose ones that are like really terrible and then like kind of just, you know, riff on them, make fun of them for whatever reason. So I kind of was like, okay, I'll do that same thing and also make an alliterative title for that. So I went on Fiverr and I just made fun of someone. That was – I wonder if you were doing it before Shane because I remember Shane did Fiverr. I wonder if he stole it from you or you just – like are you just doing the same?

I think at the same time. Shane Dawson. Shane Dawson. Do you remember him? I do. Yeah. He used to do like Fiverr videos all the time. He'd pay people to do like random shit on Fiverr and I was like, oh. You know, he's been around for a while so I imagine he might have done it before me, honestly. But you just didn't know. You're just like different worlds. Yeah. I mean, it's one of those things too when you have like 4,000 subscribers or whatever. It's like – because that's how much I had at the time I think when I was doing the Fiverr videos. Yeah.

It's kind of just like throw shit out of the wall and just – and there's no real pressure when you're not a huge YouTuber to like not – I don't know. Like you still try to be unique but obviously it's like not as huge pressure to not cover other people's topics. Like nowadays, if I was doing a video that like could cross within a category that like maybe one of my peers like – I don't know, like Curtis or Danny or someone would have done, then I'm –

probably going to like reach out to them and talk to them about it and make sure it's yeah yeah because it's I don't know it's like the right thing to do I feel like and also like I don't know I just don't want to step again I don't want to step on people's toes wow you're really concerned I know people just do like if I went to Rainforest Cafe I wouldn't think to reach out to you like well that's what people do they go to Rainforest Cafe well you can go to Rainforest Cafe you don't need a license from me to do that just go to all of them yeah no I'm the gatekeeper of the Rainforest Cafe what's your thing like that's what

Like that's what people know you for. It's going to every single one. And why did you do that? Um, well, it was one of the videos of that fiber era. I did a video with a buddy from college who was also an acapella Ross where I, cause I had gone to the rainforest cafe when I was a kid. Um,

And I just thought it was a ridiculous place that kind of just lived within nostalgia for me. So I was like, oh, it'd be kind of funny if I just took someone who had never been to the Rainforest Cafe to the Rainforest Cafe. He never had been? He had never been. Oh, my gosh. And he also had ornithophobia, which is a fear of birds. Oh, my God. Did he freak out? No, it wasn't that bad because they weren't moving. The way he described to me once is that like them kind of circling above and the fact that they could kind of come down on him, I think is-

Oh, like a moth. Which I get. Honestly, I can... And birds are... Birds are dinosaurs. They are. We all kind of are. We're all evolved. It is tea. It's spilled. No, but they're like in a legitimate way. I'm pretty sure they descend from dinosaurs. That's where birds come from. Yeah, because dinosaurs had feathers. The last raptor? See, you're science. This is so science related. Did you learn that on your science FIP? You know you should try to get Hank Green on if you're looking for some science. Oh, I don't think

he likes me. See, that's why I'm saying the drama because one time he was like, Trisha Paytas is a troll and I was like, well, obviously, but he went off on me a couple years ago so I don't think he likes me, but shout out Hank Green. He's an author and we love celebrities and all that stuff. You give me Hank Green vibes for sure, yeah. You have the short hair and the glasses. And that's all it takes. Yeah, that's all it takes. Guy with glasses. No, but you know about stuff like the dinosaurs and the birds, which I'm like, you know, and you want to see the solar eclipse. That's why I was saying your science. It came from somewhere. Oh, trust me. If you saw a total solar eclipse, you'd be like, I want to go to every single one.

I don't know. I saw like footage of it. My mom went to Austin to look at it and she, I don't know. Let me describe it to you. Let me break it down Barney style for you so you understand. We're talking, you're out there in the eclipse. Have you seen a solar eclipse before? Moses? Not the full one. Not the full one. No one's seen it. So I'm the only one here who's seen the truth. Yeah. Yeah, let's get up for his hands. Yeah, no, okay. So basically as it's, because you assume that you've seen like the partial part where it's like it's kind of crossing over like when it was. Yeah.

Maybe in 2017, maybe this year recently. Not in person. I saw videos. TikToks I've seen, it gets dark for a minute and you're like, okay. No, I mean like the partial where you look up with the glasses and you see the sun's a little bit covered by the moon. I haven't seen it. Well, basically it'll start doing that

And it looks already really sick like that. But as it's getting closer, we're talking like 80% and up. It doesn't necessarily get darker at first. It starts to get dimmer as if somebody like took one of those little circle light switch things and they were actually turning it down, which is like a weird way for light to behave in the world that you don't normally see. And then when it actually gets to the point where it fully crosses it, we're talking like it just goes fully dark, but

In a 360 degree, like you look around anywhere, it looks like there's a sunset in every direction. Like that sort of orange kind of sky on the horizon. But you look up and it's literally just a black, the black sun. It's crazy. But it's like light. It's like a black sun, so it's like a black light. Well, no, it's like the moon is right in front of it. But like around it, you can see the kind of like the solar, whatever, the corona of the sun or whatnot. Oh.

It's probably one of the craziest things that I feel like I've visually seen in our world. Did anything crazy happen, like, afterwards or during? Nothing necessarily – well –

Because it's a shadow like a literal shadow that's on the earth that of the moon going across It does this thing where it gets colder in that area obviously because the sun's warmth isn't there so it does a thing where there's kind of like a draft that gets built up because of like I am getting really scientific We're learning so much Like a draft gets built up because of the difference in heat in the air. So it's like so I

I don't need so science. So when the eclipse starts, there's literally like wind comes through. And at least when I had actually seen the last solar eclipse that happened in America too in 2017, and that was during this in August of 2017. And during that, since it was the summer and when I had seen it most recently, it was like winter. So there weren't any like animals and stuff out. But in that summer, the crickets started chirping because it was like they thought it was night.

And then like the streetlights would go on in that town center that we were in and stuff. So it was like weird. It was like it's – because you were like it's 2 p.m. It's never dark at 2 p.m. in North Carolina or whatever. Yeah, you would think crickets would be smarter. Like I would know it's 2 p.m. You know what I mean? Like how do they not know just because it like went dark for a minute? Yeah, no. I bet all those crickets were really embarrassed when it turned back to light and they were like –

Because the camels know instinctually, right? They would know. How do they – Well, I mean a lot of animals sort of operate on a circadian rhythm of it literally being night and day. That's why you have the blue – the night mode on your phone where it turns from that blue light into the orange light because people say that if you're looking at – you're getting a lot of blue light from your phone and it messes up your circadian rhythm. Where do you learn all this stuff? Yeah.

I don't know. I feel like I'm spitting right now. That's crazy. Like all this knowledge is just showing up in my head and I'm like, holy shit. How did you know that? Because you dropped out of college, right? No. Oh, you graduated. Yeah, I finished it. Oh, okay. Damn. I think you're like the only YouTuber to like finish college. That's like amazing, right? I don't know. I guess there is a lot of like influencers these days that are like becoming a thing at like 16 and shit. And they just never go to school. At the same time though, it's like, I don't know, college kind of is...

is becoming less of a thing, I feel like. Really? Well, have you heard, like, so many people, I feel like on TikTok I'm seeing, like, so many people are just...

getting out of school and they have these huge degrees and they still can't find a fucking job. Yeah. Yeah, it seems expensive too. Oh, it is. Would you go to, you went to a university? Yeah, yeah. I went to a private college, Ithaca College. Well. Bougie. No. Well, I mean, as opposed to a public university, you know. Oh, okay. But I went to Ithaca College in Ithaca, New York. Are you from New York? No, I'm from Massachusetts. Oh, okay. Same thing, kind of. They're all there.

on the East Coast. Yeah. They're basically one state. That makes sense in why you're into theater. When you saw The Eclipse, do you remember Little Shop of Horrors? Have you ever seen it? I have. No, I know it. It's just been a while. I mean, that's literally you. Thank you, Seymour. Yeah. You're a Seymour vibe. Didn't you sing that? Yeah, I did. I did all the parts. Do you want to sing it right now? Do you know the words? No, I don't, but I could- I'm very excited. I could-

I could try. I feel like you would know. Who's the guy from Family Guy? Seth MacFarlane and Ariana Grande did it in the car. Remember Carpool Coyote? You don't know any of it? I don't know it. That's one of them. I was so excited. We're going to sing because every guest that comes on, I'm like, will you sing? Even singers and they don't want to sing with me. I was like, how do you not want to sing? I can't sing, but I love Broadway and theater. That's why I was like, but you actually sing. I heard you singing the Grinch song. I was like, oh, he actually sings. I did. I did. I'm a bandwagon.

I'm a bass. Is that what you did in an acapella group? Yeah, I was a bass, yeah. Shout out, what was the group called? Icy Voice Stream. So we had like a college voice stream. Oh, Icy Voice Stream. I used to date a bass singer in an acapella group. Do you remember the one, Pentatonix? Yeah. I used to date that guy and he'd just go, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom.

That was like his part in those things. Was his name Ari? Avi. Avi. Do you know him? No, I don't know him personally. I know of him though. Yeah, yeah. I think he just disappeared though. I don't think he's in the group anymore. I don't know what happened to him. He just disappeared. Met him on Tinder and then he like quit the group and that's it. That's all I know. Oh. Yeah. He was just – but is that what you would do too? You just go –

Yeah, yeah. Something along those lines. I love when people do it. Little dum-buzz, dum-buzz. Yeah, exactly. I think it's cool. I wouldn't want to go back to that, but I want to finish the solar eclipse because I thought it was so interesting. The phone thing is very interesting. How did you know about the blue and like yellow light thing? I think I had just seen it like progressively like online over the years. It was just like, you know, I don't know about you, but I finished most of my days where I'm like this on my side looking at my phone and stuff. And I think I had just seen it at some point where they were like,

blue light just keeps you awake for longer when you look at your phone and stuff. So I got to put it down. I put my down around 6 p.m. I don't look at it anymore. I have to put my

like not next to my bed next to my side table I have to put it like across the room if I want to be able to get up because of my alarm radiation too it's bad like if you put the if I put my phone next to my baby the doctor's like literally it can like radiate into the baby or something like crazy yeah the phones are still radioactive right isn't that a thing like I'm not supposed to sleep with it by my belly because I used to like have it by my belly and they're like don't put a phone there I don't know I don't know I have no idea that could be way wrong um but in in little playing youtube videos well

Sleep with it. Put in Cocomelon and then put it on your belly. Oh, my God. Cocomelon is like – I love that you know that. How do you know about Cocomelon? It's like they've got like 150 million subscribers. Wait. That's so funny. That's so funny. That's so weird, though. Their Wheels on the Bus video has more views than Gangnam Style. Oh, my God. We watch it probably 100 times a day. My daughter is just like Wheels on the Bus, Coco, Coco. That's all she wants to see. Really? Because I know that there's a lot of – there's conversation online of like Cocomelon and the Baby Sensory videos, like kind of just like rotten kids.

Oh, for sure. It speeds up so quick at the end. Like there's one that goes like 100 miles an hour. And I was just like, this seems not good for kids. Do you know what's a good show that I have heard is really great and it's like a very highly rated show for kids. It's like this Australian show called Bluey. Have you heard of this? Bluey. Yeah. I'm not a Bluey. I'm not a Bluey. You don't like Bluey? No, I don't. Not my vibe. We're like more Miss Rachel people over here. It seems like this is a –

The vibe I'm getting is that it's a suspicion based around Australians right now. Oh, yeah, for sure. Wait, how did you know that? That was just the energy that you were giving off. Oh, that's so funny. You were like, I don't trust that accent. That's crazy. But for real, British accents and Australian accents, mostly Australian. Lately, it's been crazy. Yeah. Because there's a bunch of scandal going on with Australians and stuff. With Australians and gents? On TikTok, yeah. Wait, really? You didn't know about this? Yeah.

The country of Australia is in – I'm going to Australia tomorrow. Wait, you are? I am. Oh, my God. Thank you for coming right before your big trip. Wait, what are you going for? I have been meaning to go out there for years. I originally had an opportunity to go out to Australia in like – when I was still in school, like maybe in like 2019, like in the fall of 2019, but I couldn't because I was going to miss too many classes.

That's everything. School before influencing. That was the one time where I was like – because I had already done like three years of school and it was one of those things where I was like I might as well just – I was going to school for a film. Like it wasn't like I was doing –

I don't know, math or something, you know? It wasn't as bad. At least I was still like creating something and making something. Yeah. I don't know. I just wanted to finish it just so I could, you know, have it and just say I did it because that's how I started, you know? No, that's the ultimate flex for sure. Yeah, because I was going to owe the money for the other three years anyways, you know? Might as well finish it out. Might as well. Yeah, and then there's also a, you know, I was, I think I might be going on, I've been, I'm not sure yet, but I might be going on Cold Ones.

With Max and Chad. Oh, my gosh. How do you get all these opportunities? Well, I've known them for years. Oh. And then also there's a convention that's called DreamHack. What's DreamHack? What is it? It's honestly – it's kind of like a VidCon and like a gaming convention and like a whole bunch of stuff kind of all mashed together into one.

That's the best way. But I also don't fully know. Okay, you're just going. I'm kind of showing up because the friends that I know out there are going. I love that. Well, no, I think what's happening in Australia right now is like – Yeah, I want to hear about where this suspicion around Australians is coming from. Because everyone's getting – people are just randomly stabbing people. You haven't seen this?

Yeah, there was like a big mob. The whole country of Australia. Literally, there was a mob. Did you see this? Thank you. There was a guy just like going at, like stabbing like women everywhere. And it happened not only in a mob, but it happened things. So maybe not the whole country. I can understand where your perspective is coming from then as a mother and a...

Well, there's that, but also the Bluey connection is I was hearing about the accents are – it's kind of like – you remember like back in the day when like the Beatles, right? They would have the album and if you play it backwards, it's giving like satanic messages. They say there's something like that with the Australian accent in cartoons through kids. I just heard this recently. I don't know if it's true. This is allegedly. Don't sue me. But like I really do think that's like a thing because when I listen to those accents like Bluey or Peppa Pig is British, I think there's some messaging going on there for sure. I'll tell you one thing. Yeah. I've seen – because it's good that you brought up Peppa Pig because I've watched –

clips from bluey that have shown up on tiktok and i'm like getting emotional watching like i don't know i just from what i've seen from blue i haven't watched a full episode before i've just seen a lot of clips and i've fallen into like a tiktok hole where you watch clips of like a show you know what i mean yeah um and like the writing is really good and it's like kind of it's like a weirdly nuanced kid show peppa pig i don't trust for shit thank you because that's what people are saying is a

Peppa Pig is a racist, is transphobic. Allegedly, yes. No, true. This is true. And you heard it here. Peppa Pig is, I think it's like some communist propaganda thing.

Yeah. That's a bold claim. Bluey's going to be there one day. Bluey's new and cool, but one day it'll be Peppa Pig for sure where they look back and it's – I don't know because Peppa Pig looks like it's like some – the scrapbook made by a madman whereas like Bluey is like well-animated, you know? I just think it's a little misogynistic too. I don't know. It's Bluey. Like it's a blue dog that's a boy. It's like – It's a girl.

I don't know. No. Louie's definitely a boy. Louie's a girl? No. Well, you could be right, actually. I don't know. But I just always would think like, hmm, that's a little – okay. Well, I guess it's gender fluid. Maybe internally misogynistic. Internally. Everyone's internally misogynistic, including me. Everyone's a little internal misogynistic. That's – well, you know, I don't know. I can't give it a try. How about this? How about this? I'm going to – I'll do my best Australian accent and tell me if you think I'm –

I'm like suddenly a murderer. So give me a sentence to say. Oh, answer this question in an Australian accent. What do you like most about being straight? What do I like most about being straight? Well, I love women.

So good. Wow. You sounded like Steve Irwin. Like, actually, that was great. Crocodiles. Oh, my God. Crocodiles. That was amazing. I'm Steve Irwin. I got canceled by a stingray. Oh, dark. He did. He got canceled by a stingray. I know. That's sad. It is honestly so tragic, though. That was like one of, you know, that's one of the celebrities that dies and you're like,

Yeah, because everyone likes him. It's like a Robin Williams or like one of those people that's just like a universally loved person that's just like – Steve Irwin's was like really tragic because it was like he didn't have to die. You know about that? Yeah. No, wait. I don't know. I mean I knew he got stung by a stingray. Because he got stung by a stingray and they pulled it out. And you're not – when you get stabbed by something, you're not supposed to pull it out because then it's like going to make it kind of fucking gush. You know what I mean? Oh my god. Yeah. You know so much. It's like safer to keep it in. Like a knife. Do you have a knife stabs you keep it in?

Yeah, that's generally what they say that you should do is you should keep it in. I mean, obviously, you know, don't go through the rest of your day. But like maybe go to the hospital. Just lay there. Don't run maybe. Like just keep it. Interesting. Yeah. Oh, man. I wonder who did that.

that they probably weren't trained in stingrays who pulled it out of him or he pulled it out yeah i mean it's dark it's one of those things where it does kind of feel backwards if you get stabbed you shouldn't pull it out because obviously when you get when you've got a foreign a foreign object and you're being lodged in your body you're like okay well that shouldn't be there and you want to get rid of it but you know yeah well you know what but that's like in a way i feel like a way he'd want to go right like i love food you know you like food like

If I'm going to die having a heart attack eating Domino's, like that's where I want to go. You know what I mean? That's how I want to leave the world. It's better than like – You want to have a heart attack at 10 o'clock?

What? At Domino's is the way you die. Well, maybe when I'm older. But I'm just saying people are like, oh, if you eat all that food, you're going to have a heart attack. I'm like, yeah, but I get to enjoy the food while I'm alive. Do you know what I mean? I feel like you'd need to go out like in a Margaritaville or something, you know? Yeah, just like hammered out of my mind, just full straight up alcohol poisoning from a perfect margarita. Oh, but you wouldn't know. Yeah, if you're blacked out, like that's actually a good way to go. I don't drink, but that would be a great way to go because you don't know. All of a sudden you're just dead. I can't remember the last time that I got blacked out. Oh, really? You're not like a drinker. Well, you know, I drink alcohol.

I drink alcohol. Don't get me wrong. I drink. I'm actually pretty cool because I actually drink alcohol.

No, but I feel like I just get the spins too early on in the whole process. I feel like if we're going on a timeline here and over here is getting blacked out, I'm getting the spins like maybe 75% of the way there. So I'm checking out before I even get to that point. The spins are the spins in your head? Like you feel like you're spinning? Yeah, like the kind when you're trying to go to sleep that night after going out drinking and you close your eyes and it's like a –

you know, where you kind of feel like you're falling a little bit and you got to open your eyes and be like, okay, I'm going to lock in and you have to breathe and stuff.

I hate that shit. But when you go to like Margaritaville, you're obviously drinking there. Well, yeah. But like sometimes – we're also on a road trip. So we can't get wasted at every – because sometimes we would do a Margaritaville in the morning. So we can't get wasted because one of us has to drive. Did you do that for fun or for profit? Like did you think this is going to be viral? Like we're going to make so much money. What a well-worded question. I would say mainly for fun. We knew that after the first one, after Rainforest, we knew that it was going to do well because

But at the end of the day, like the video itself is one thing. And then there's also the fact that like it's me and my friend Eddie going on like a huge cross country road trip, which is a blast. Yeah. And there's so many stops that we do and things that we do. And it's just like hanging out with your buddy for like a whole month.

you know, on the road. And you loved it. Yeah. I really like road trips. I've done, you know, I've done those two that have been videos, but then I also, when I graduated high school, I did a whole cross country road trip with my, with, with Tucker, who I gave the bracelet to when we got out of high school, because he's my best friend from high school. And then I did, I, when I moved out to LA, I road tripped out here with my dad and,

And I think I did a couple more, honestly. That eclipse, that first eclipse I saw, I road tripped down in the south to do that. I've done like seven road trips. But your road trip back wasn't good from the eclipse because you said you got stuck in traffic. So I was just like, you're like a bumper to bumper. Oh, yeah, on the recent one, that one sucked. So are you still into road trips or you're like, yeah, let's keep going to these? Yeah, because if I knew that I was going to be stuck in 12 hours of traffic –

I would still do it again. What? Well, because the actual – we got to see an eclipse, a total solar eclipse. There's only like 70-ish eclipses that happen every century, total solar eclipses. Well, you've seen two or three already, right? And I've seen two. Yeah, so – And I've seen two. But I think I've decided for myself that my goal is to like at least –

you know, end my life watching at least a full hour of eclipses, of solar eclipses. So how many more do you have left then? Well, I've got five minutes down. Oh my God.

You won't make it. So I got 55 minutes. Well, I think that the last I'm going to see, it'll also give me an excuse to travel to different places because they happen all over the world at different points. Because they predicted when all of these are going to happen. And there's a Wikipedia page that says when and where each of them are going to happen. So I think the last one I'm going to see if I do this plan over the rest of my life is when I'm

is on my birthday when I turned 77 in Argentina. Wait, that's the next one? No, that's the last one. Oh, last one. That's like for me, that would probably be the last one where it's like kind of unreasonable to keep traveling for solar eclipses when you're beyond 77, right? Yeah, and like where are you going to post it? There's probably going to be no social media like this, you know, around.

So it's not to post, though. Oh, it's to experience? It's to see. It's to see with my eyes. Yeah. You didn't do content while you were down there? For the recent one, I actually did. See, okay. So that's what I'm saying. I feel like you won't be as motivated at 77. But I just did, I did like a stupid dance video on TikTok for that. And that was like, I kind of decided that like halfway to the eclipse. The main reason I went out for that eclipse was because I wanted to see that with my friend Tucker, who had never seen a solar eclipse before. I wanted to show him that. What?

You love taking people for their first experiences, like rainforests. That's a really – that's an astute observation in a very genuine way. I think that's one of the ways that – if that was a love language, that would be –

one of my love languages. Someone observing that? Or like taking someone's for a time? If I have like a restaurant or like some sort of thing that I really like, I will want to show it to people and I will be willing to do that thing multiple times to show it to people. I'll have them also get that experience. That's so cool. I like that. Do you do that with romantic partners or just friends? Yeah. I would say that that is also a way I show love and

romantic relationship. Really? You're like, let me take you. That would be fun. I guess it would be exciting. Because then it's like great because usually I'll have like a whole list where I'm like, oh, this place is awesome. I like these things. And it's honestly probably in the context of a romantic relationship, it's probably pretty good too because it's like, I got a plan. Yeah. Oh, they'll be so excited. They'll be like, oh my gosh. Which usually it is very straight coded to not when it comes to dating. Like what do you want to do? I don't know where you want to go. Yeah. You're like, I have a whole list actually. Yeah. I actually saw this really

good tick tock recently. You guys may have seen this. It came up on my for you page where it was this guy on a podcast talking about a story about how he was in, uh, this relationship with this woman. And he was like, pack your bags. We're going on a trip or, uh,

And she was like, where are we going? He was like, I'll tell you. And he goes and they travel all the way to the south. And the whole time she's like, where are we going? Where are we going? And he's like, I'm going to tell you. Or I'll tell you later. I'll tell you later. And eventually they get to this small little tiny town and Dolly Parton's playing and she doesn't play shows anymore. And then she was like, oh, well...

I really wish I had known because so I could, you know, have, I would have an outfit that I would want to wear to something like that. Right. And he was like, that's so crazy that you say that. And that would be even crazier if I didn't have your friend come over a couple of days before and so I could also pack a bag. Oh my God.

Oh, my gosh. ... fur of all the things that you would wear. That's like the bachelor style. That's like, I have a dress for you, too. But I watched it, and I was like, this dude's got it all fucking figured out. You got to step it up. He's got the secret sauce. So when you take a girl to see the solar eclipse, you also have to get her a blinged-out glasses or something cool, you know? And it was me going. What would be your ideal outfit if you were to go to the solar eclipse? Because I feel...

I'm getting the vibe that you like to dress for theme. Oh, always. Yeah, I know. I'm very sad I couldn't dress like your theme today. I just didn't know how it was going to work. I'm glad Oscar dressed your theme, but I just didn't know. I was like trying to figure it out. For a solar eclipse, for sure, you would need like the glasses, but I wouldn't like them cool because they're so ugly, right? The glasses are ugly that people wear. Yeah, they try to make them cool too. Do they? I feel like they look like. Well, they got like a design on them that's like, ooh, solar eclipse, but it's like. No. They look like the old 3D red and blue.

Yes. The 3D glasses. Blue glasses, yeah. So I would do that. But what I was getting to earlier, in Little Shop of Horrors, the solar eclipse happens. It's in the song where the plant comes to life. It was during a solar eclipse. That's how the plant gets in on Earth, the plant that eats people. And he's like, and all of a sudden, there was a total eclipse of the sun. He's like, suddenly, it got very dark and a strange humming sound came. And then from outer space comes the plant. And so I would want to dress as Seymour and Audrey because that's where the solar eclipse happened.

Whoa. And the plant comes to life so you can have a little baby plant with you. And I just thought that was such a missed opportunity. And no one on TikTok was talking about how the solar eclipse brought the Audrey 2 to, like, land in suddenly Seymour. Yeah. You know, I didn't see anyone talking about that. And that's actually kind of fucked up.

It's so fucked up. It's so fucked up because everyone talks about, oh, I love Little Shop of Horrors. And it's like, because it's on Broadway, it's all this stuff like that. And I was like, okay, but fake. And because you're a musical theater, which is like the number one is Little Shop of Horrors and Solar Eclipse fan. I'm like, that's like a perfect integration for you. Is Little Shop of Horrors the number one musical theater? For sure. The Suddenly Seymour song, everybody knows and sings. What about like Wicked? I feel like Wicked would be a little bit more in the...

in the zeitgeist of the... It's too new. Little Temple Wars has been around for like... Rick Moranis was in the original movie. What about Oklahoma? Oh, but who watches Oklahoma? Have you seen it? Do you know Oklahoma stans? No. Never met one. Me neither. But to be honest with you, to play Devil's Agate, you are the first Little Shop of Horrors stan I have ever met. Wait, but you were doing theater in high school. I just wasn't meeting people who were like, I fucking love Little Shop of Horrors. What?

It's huge on Broadway right now. I just think that people like it. I don't know. For what reason? Everything. The music, the movies. It's a cool show. I like the concept. It's really cool. So you've seen it? Yeah, I think I have. On stage or film? I saw the movie.

Okay, so the movie's great and the movie is like so iconic. I know the Suddenly Seymour song and I definitely just saw the movie. Yeah, it's so good. I don't know. And right now on Broadway they have all these actors like Darren Criss is playing Seymour. Oh, my friend Katie loves Darren Criss. He's in it right now. Tell her to go. If she's in New York, tell her to go. Yeah, no, she lives in New York so she's probably seen it actually. So good. She's a Darren Criss stan.

Wait, really? I don't remember that. Darren Criss. I know that's what I was going to say. I love him, but. No, no. Wasn't he in like, was he on Glee? Glee, yeah. Yeah, no, because she really likes Glee. I learn all this information just from her stories of her just being like, Darren Criss. Wait, really? Is she in the acapella group too? No, no. I met her in college. Okay. And you went to college. So you went to musical theater. What shows were you in then? In high school? I was in freshman year, I was in Legally Blonde. Oh.

Who were you? I was one of the Harvard admissions officers. And then also for the rest of it, I was like, what's that fucking word? That's when you're just a general person. Oh, ensemble. Ensemble, yeah. Oh, wait, you weren't a lead? Freshman year? No, no. No, the high school I went to, it was like...

I feel like we had a pretty good drama program, so it was, like, pretty competitive. Like, there was a good amount of, like, straight dudes that would do... That would do... It wasn't just, like... Because I feel like a lot of drama programs, like, across the country is, like, maybe, like, a hundred women and then, like, the four, like...

gay guys that are like in the program as well. And like one straight tenor. The Ethan Slaters, the Christian Borle. We're talking about this. Matthew Morrison. Then you got that one really egotistical tenor that is just like, look at these high notes I can sing. And you're like, fuck you, dude. And the girls love, that's why the Ethan Slater is so hot. I tell him this. I'm like, because he's like this theater boy that's like this straight, but he's like hot and he sings and like. That's why I think it's also so funny when people like idolize

celebrities that are like, for instance, like Timothy Chamolet. It's like, brother's a theater kid. You know, it's like people are less known. And it's like, that's someone that you would have been like, oh, you do theater. And now you're like, he's so hot. Oh, yeah. No, him singing in the walkout, I was like, oh, my God. Like, I just want to melt. Yeah, for sure. Yeah, but I had lines in that first one in Legally Blonde. Were you in the What You Want song? What song were you in? I said, I said,

She got a 175 on her LSAT. Oh, yeah. And they go, 175, 175, 175. Yeah.

I love that. Yeah. That's good. And then sophomore year, I had a big upgrade and I played Willard in Footloose. Oh, that's good. That's a really good role. Yeah, so I got to sing Mama Says and all that. Oh my gosh. And then in junior year, the longtime drama teacher there, Mrs. Potter, left and then in came in a new guy and he was only there for a year. There was like a whole, it was a lot of, it was tumultuous a couple years after Mrs. Potter left, but yeah.

What happened with him? Inappropriate with the students or something? No. Because that is my experience all the time. No. He was a nice guy. He just had a different way of doing things. I'm trying to remember. I'm like pulling up like old lore right now. It wasn't that long ago, your high school life. I think it was like one of those things where he had just a different way of doing things. He had one of those things where I think it was like everyone who auditioned would get in or something like that, which was like dubious in its choices. Right. At least in my opinion back then. Yeah.

And I think he kind of had a thing where it was like anyone who normally would get leads and stuff, he would kind of specifically make a point to not give them leads and stuff like that, which was interesting. But I played like... It was...

Sweet Charity was the musical in junior year. That's such an old one. That's so random. Yeah, I was like – honestly, I didn't really care for it too much. But I was – my part was I had this like mostly ensemble but then my one part where I had lines was I was dirty old man. That was your – oh, my God. What did you say in it?

I don't even remember. That one, I don't really remember too much from that one. And then senior year was Into the Woods. Ooh. And I played Rapunzel's prince. Oh, my God. That makes total sense. So I got to sing Agony, which was – Wow. Into the Woods is no joke. That's a hard one. That's a hard musical. Yeah. No, that one was a blast. I remember having a lot of fun with that one. Oh, my God. What was that audition song? Do you remember what you auditioned with? My audition song? Oh, I've got no fucking clue.

clue actually. You didn't have like a run you always. Honestly to be honest I definitely had like a monologue that I always auditioned with because I had it memorized and I was like why do I need to learn another one I can just show like if there was no like and you know how to like slate and stuff when you come out there and do the auditions but I don't know. Wow.

Yeah. And then I – that was like the last time that I ever did a musical theater was back senior year. But then you get into acapella in college. Yeah, because I also was an acapella in high school. So then I went and started doing it. I was – yeah. I was an acapella in high school. I was also in this thing called Madrigals. Have you heard of this? It sounds familiar. What is it? It's a Madrigals choir. Basically, it's – because there was like four different levels of singing that you could be in in the chorus thing. Like there was –

the normal chorus and then there was like concert choir or something and then there was like chamber choir and they were like just of like different levels but then there was magicals which was an audition like a audition group where you dressed up as like medieval and medieval clothing and you sang like real it was like acapella but it was like medieval like chanting

Not really like chanting. Okay. Well, what do you mean by chanting, Ashley? You kind of spam a lot, you know, like, you know, like those kind of things. Not so much that. Okay. I love that. More like something that you'd hear, like, would sound really good if it was sang in a cathedral, you know? Oh, okay. Kind of like that kind of stuff. Like what was you saying? Can you give us a little bit of that? Some of it, a lot of it was in Latin. Oh, my God. Dude.

Did you know what you were saying? There was this one song called Northern Lights, I think, that I can very vaguely remember. But if I sang it, I would just be singing like. Yes! Go! No, no. I would literally just be. I wanted to hear it. We need the clip for TikTok. People want more of you singing. Do you know what's funny?

When I got to college and I auditioned for the acapella groups there, I used the bass part of one of the songs that I sang, like just me singing the bass part of one of the songs to audition for like the all-male acapella group, which I didn't get into. And it was literally just me. It's like a medieval song. Get out of here. I don't know what it is. And it was like, I would get up there. And everyone else, I found out this later because I didn't know how to audition.

audition for an acapella group and it was everyone else was singing like my heart's in misery like they were singing like pop songs I come in there and I'm singing like a medieval chant I guess yeah where I was like to woodland glades I must fare to woodland glades I must fare oh

Oh my God, that was so good. Thank you. They didn't think so. You didn't get in with that? No, dude. They were probably, because it was, they're all sitting there. It was for Ithacapella, by the way. Ithacapella folks love you guys to death. No, they're all very nice people. I imagine that they were sitting there and they were looking at me sing this fucking medieval chant and they were like, does he not know how to?

we audition for this? Like I find out and because they brought it up a couple years later and I was like son of a bitch because I realized later how cringy that must have been. I definitely knew that they were probably like what the fuck is going on because then later on you know obviously like all the members of the acapella groups when they do auditions next year so I kind of knew what that process was like in years later. So I was like

You should have watched Pitch Perfect before. I know. Some Kelly Clarkson or something. Yeah. I think for the group that I ended up being in, I sang, I think I might have sang Feeling Good, Michael Buble. Which is a little high for me. It's more of a baritone sort of thing. I was going to say, can you sing? Can we hear that? I don't know. I can't sing confidently on a podcast. Wait, why? That was so good. I don't know how I feel.

It's a new dawn. It's a new day. This is a safe space for you to sing. I'm the worst singer in the whole world and I love to sing every chance I get. You need to. This is like birds flying high. There. That's all you're getting. That's so good. For TikTok. You know how I feel. Sun in the sky. You know how I feel.

It's a new vision. It's a new vision. It's driven on by. You know how I feel. It's a new. I'm not going to sing that high note, though. I don't have the confidence to do that high note. You're edging us. We need the whole. There's no edging. There's no gooning. There's no edging. There's no gooning on this podcast. What's gooning? I don't know this either. You don't know what gooning is. I know. What is it? Really? Justin, ladies and gentlemen, Trisha Paytas does not know what gooning is. I'm also 35 and I have no idea. Oh.

- Oh, I'm sure that there's 35 year olds that know what gooning is. - Really? Well, I'm sure they're not. - Honestly, I don't know. I'll let you know when I'm 35. - What's gooning? Tell me. Is it gross? Is it something gross? - You know what gooning is?

Thank you. You know what goonin' is. Yeah, I do. I actually don't fully know. It's like, it's kind of, I think it's just like jerking off for a long period of time. Why gooning? Why is it called gooning? Well, because there's this whole thing where there's people that have these things called goon caves, which is... Oh, I didn't know that. You didn't know about the goon caves? I didn't know about the goon caves. You didn't know about the goon caves? Where it's like, they...

Imagine, you know, like the stereotypical image of a hacker where it's like they're in a dark room with a thousand monitors and they're typing away. Imagine that, but like with porn on every screen. And it's like, and that's what they do. It's a goon cave. They got it all...

Set up. Are they hacking the porn or they're just watching the porn? Are they hacking? Didn't you just say a hacker, but it's all porn? Well, I was just doing that to give you a visual, but they could be hacking into the porn. I don't know what that quite would look like, but I imagine it would be advanced hacking to hack into the porn. So it's somebody who has multiple screens of porn on and they're going at it. Yeah, they're going at it. Ooh, that sounds sticky.

And it sounds gross. Yeah. No, that is – it's a sticky business. But some people take up the torch and they – You know a lot about – And they go to war. You know a lot about gooning. What was the other one that said edging? I wouldn't say I know that much about gooning. Well, you said it. Let's not – I know. Well, I didn't say that I'm – I said I know what it is. I don't – I'm not a –

- I'm gonna be the resident expert on gooning. I'm not gonna come on here. I can be a resident expert on my knowledge on solar eclipse. I will not say that I am an expert on gooning. - Your lower third is gonna say be expert. - Do you guys have broadcast visuals that come out? Okay, that's gonna come on screen, great. - We have little B-rolls that look like that. We'll throw that in there. - Expert on gooning, great. - That's actually so funny with the pink wall behind you.

You're also not an expert on tampons. I saw a clip of you talking about this yesterday, too. What? Yeah, you were on a podcast. I am an expert on tampons. Are you kidding me? I want to know if you actually know the answer because you asked the guy. You're like, do you know how many tampons a day a girl uses? But then you never answered yourself. A day? Yeah. Well, let's talk about flow. What are we rocking with? That's what I'm talking about.

seven. I was like, but it's not based on flow. I mean, I imagine that it could be four to six. Why do you think that? Maybe even seven. How did you calculate that? How did you calculate that? Yeah. Because it's fucking like blood that's coming out of the vagunus and it's like you got to... I do know that if you keep one in for too long, you're going to septic shock. I don't think that's true. I think it happened one time when they put that on the box. I don't know. I was a woman and I

blood coming out of my crotch and it was and I and I knew that I would die if I didn't replace it I'd probably go through at least six or seven a day okay so you think yeah how many do you go through like do you know I have no idea yeah no wait sorry just so you don't get septic shock yeah you take it out this is why Ted is so baby girl coded because I'm like other straight guys wouldn't even like think

think or fathom like, okay, let me do the algebra. This might be a crazy question, but are you gay? Very, yeah. Okay. I had to ask before I went and assumed. So now I was about to, that was what my pause was about. I was like, maybe I should ask him first. I think that out of anyone, gay men are the least equipped to answer any questions about women. That's true. If you never dated a girl. Because at least we, like the straight guys, at least like women

We're there in the trenches. Yeah, in the trenches. Totally. Surely, you're in the trenches right now. Yeah, I couldn't even imagine what it would be like.

At all, honestly. Just like a tampon in general or a period flow? Both. Because I've never seen a vagina, period. Right. No pun intended. Is it like pissing? Does it feel like pissing? Peeing or tampons? See, now I'm asking like a crazy question.

Because you put the tampon in. I don't know why. The tampons are definitely not like peeing because you put it up. You don't pee upwards. Right. You know what I mean? You're trying to stop the – it's a – yeah. How many tampons do you think I use a day right now on my period? I don't think that you use any because aren't you – are you not currently pregnant? Wow. Good job. That was a good – that was a true story.

That was a trick question. Okay. He's a scientist. I know how periods work. It's like every month you've got all of this, this stuff inside of the, inside of the uterus. And at,

when your body decides hey we're actually not having a baby this month sorry guys then your your your body's like all right well we got all this shit in here we gotta get rid of it we gotta flush it out so it's like all the inner walls of they're getting getting flushed out right your eggs are breaking yeah like the eggs didn't fertilize so they break and you gotta release them so yeah so that's all eggs i think so i feel like it was the lining of the oh you

I don't even know what a labia is, so I'm the wrong person to ask this. You don't know what a labia is? No. You don't know what a vulva is? No. We were talking about this the other day. I actually don't know the parts of a vagina. The hymen we didn't know. The hymen. Why do they have a hymen? Can you explain that one? I don't know what a hymen is. That sounds like a name to call a baby. We're naming our firstborn boy Hymen. Ooh, that's a good baby name, actually. Hymen Jasper Smith.

We're so excited to welcome Hyman Jasper Smith to our family. It's kind of a cute name, actually. I'm not going to lie. That's kind of a slay. Yeah. A Hyman. Maybe for a boy or something. Don't name any of your kids Hyman, please. But why do you need it? Why do we have it? I don't know. I just think it's a funny word. But I will tell you that I believe that the vulva is, you know, the outer part of the

of the scenario of the women's genitalia. I thought it was labia. I thought the lips were labia. I think it's interchangeable. I think labia is. Same thing? Yeah. I always thought the vulva was the thing hanging in your throat. That's the esophagus. Or uvula. Uvula. Yeah. Okay, so close. It was close. Yeah, and then the inner part, you know, the tunnel, that's the vagina. What's that called? Oh, vagina. Just a vagina? Really? Yeah, because everyone, I feel like generally what people do is they just call all of it vagina. Yeah.

Yeah, that's what I think. That's not like totally accurate. Vagina, vagina. Yeah, because there's no parts of the penis like that. You know what I mean? There's no, I guess, taint and- You know what's always crazy though? I feel like a lot of this information I learned in sex ed in high school and I don't understand how people don't know that because they teach you this. No, they told us abstinence. They literally told us like don't have sex. Oh. Yeah. Where did you grow up? Illinois. I grew up in like a farm town. That explains a lot. Yeah.

Just in general or about this? So like if you see a field of corn, are you like, no. Yeah, absolutely. Illinois triggers me. Corn triggers me. Farm triggers me. Like all that stuff triggers me. How about corn mazes? Does that trigger you? Absolutely. Because I did get lost in corn mazes multiple times. I do not like them. They're not even mazes. It's just corn stalks. And you just like go in there and you get lost because kids are mean. And they're like, go find me. And then you just get lost forever in there. Yeah. Like children of the corn status. Yeah.

But you do know a lot. I applaud you for knowing so much about a woman's body because I actually don't even know all that. So I heard the tampon conversation. You're sort of like the ambassador to women. That's impressive. And see, that's what I'm saying, baby girl coded, because a lot of straight guys just wouldn't even like know. They say like one tampon a day or something. You're very like in tune. How accurate was I with my number? Actually, very accurate. I mean, really, it's just how often they pee. I think that my old thought was like maybe like four or something. Then I was like, you know, I've been thinking, I've been upping my

Just by observation? Like you see a woman changing? No, just by what I – like every time I see a TikTok interview where they ask that same fucking question because I feel like there's so many TikTok interviews where there's a woman out in the streets of some college town and they're like, how many tampons do you think a woman uses? Yeah, but that's why I was surprised you brought it up. And then there's some dude who's like, maybe like once a week. Yeah, I like that. And then the comments are like, once a week, I would die.

Yeah, I guess if you had a firm. And I'm like, noted. Noted to my folder, my manila folder I keep in my apartment of women info. That's amazing because I saw you asking that and I was like, hmm, I wonder if they know because I see this topic so much and I'm like, God, do people really not know? Yeah. But I guess how would you know? I mean, honestly, it's like one of those things. Yeah. Periods suck. That's the worst. Yeah, I'm so glad that I don't have to deal with a period. That's like –

It's just not equal. Let's be honest here. Thank you. Sometimes guys will say, oh, well, we could get hit in the balls. And it's like, yeah, okay. Well, how often are you getting hit in the balls, buddy? You're getting hit in the balls every month, my guy? Somebody said it as an argument. That's weird. That's not even close. Yeah, so I mean – And it's not by choice. What's a male equivalent to a period? Male equivalent to a period –

I mean, in terms of medical stuff, I suppose we have to get the colonoscopy at some point. What's that? They shove the little – is it a camera? We have to get a camera up our ass to take a look at – yeah, because they say to do that probably like maybe age 35 and onwards or something like that. Have you had one? No. I've never heard of anyone having colonoscopies. You should get a colonoscopy. It's a –

Oh, my God. I would suggest doing it earlier. It's like – because basically it's – you're looking for – it's checking for colon cancer, which is a – it's a pretty preventable type of cancer, but it's only if you like get yourself checked for it. And so they put a camera up your ass.

What? Because you don't have a colon. Or a prostate, right? Prostate. Yeah, I have neither of those. Not colon cancer. Prostate cancer is what I'm talking about. I don't know why I was saying colon for about five minutes. I believed you. I'm like, yeah, that makes sense. Well, colonoscopy makes sense. Replace everything I just said in editing with prostate and then – Can't they just check with like a finger? I think that they do sometimes. Yeah, and then to get more thorough.

Like go up further. You would love to give those. Yeah. Not me. Sacha Baron Cohen would love it. I don't know if I could. I do like a little bit, but not crazy. I'm wondering what it is then. So maybe it's the tube goes in through your mouth then? Is that how it works? No, it's up the butt? It definitely is up the butt. Yeah. Wow.

Huh. Wow. What's the colon? I don't know. You're our source for science info, so if you don't know what's the colon. You don't know what's the colon? You must know. I don't know, but you know everything about everything. Yeah, now I'm feeling bad. I feel like I should have this information, but now I'm confused. I think you get

think you get colon cancer too I think there's both no it's definitely it rolled off the tongue right so I was like that's definitely a cancer oh man well I guess it's not too bad like you said you only have to get that like once you're like 35 or something like that so yeah yeah because it's like what you're checking for is like nodes or whatever like little indicators of um because it's pretty easy to remove if you spot it really so it's I don't know I'll be doing it I'll be doing it wow what an

advocate I love that that's your platform it is if Trisha Batist is any of like 35 and older male watchers get yourself checked for prostate cancer

And also colon cancer, I guess. And they might find hemorrhoids up there because I had that happen once and they find hemorrhoids that are just stuck up there and you can't do anything about them really. It just bleeds when you poop. I could also have this backwards. We could be thinking about colon cancer right now and then like we're just fucking it up. I don't know. Because at the doctor's sometimes the doctor there will stick his finger, he'll finger your booty hole. Have you had that happen? I don't think I have. No. I feel like I would remember something like that. Or maybe not. But for guys it feels good. Maybe I blacked out.

I was like, what's happening? But because of the prostate, that's why it feels good for guys to have it. I just wake up on the dog's thing. What did you do to me? But I feel like it feels good because you have a prostate. That's why it's called the P-spot. So when they like, you know, it hits something back there, it feels better for guys.

It's like a G-spot, but in the back. Yeah, I guess you wouldn't know, but from personal experience. This is what I'm saying. I'm not saying everyone has to try, but I do know so many people who try. That's why pegging exists, right? That's true. You never had that? Has that happened? No, I've never been pegged before. Really? No, I have not. I'm surprised. I feel like guys do like that. They want to try it at least once, you know, with a girl, with anything. I suppose the fact that there is something that could be experienced down there is interesting, but then also it's one of those things where it's like, that's where I poo from.

Well, you clean it out. There's so many ways to clean it. I know, but it's just, I don't know. It's just, it seems. Keep it dirty. It just seems a little, it's the same thing with the notion of eating ass. Like I'm like, I don't want someone's. You don't want it to happen to you or you don't want to do it to someone? Well, I definitely don't want to do it to someone. And I am not.

would be, I would feel, I feel like I would feel bad, you know? I would feel bad. I'm like, I don't want anyone near my butthole. Like that's. It's better. As a woman, it's better to eat the front than the, or eat the back than the front. Like it's better. Because then your jaw doesn't hurt. It's just like.

It's like tongue. What do you mean? The front like the penis? Yeah. I think I'd rather in the back. You'd rather eat ass and give a blowjob? I think a lot of girls would. You'd be surprised. Really? The other one is too hard. I get so tired and my mouth – I get sore throats every time. I get a sore throat. I'm like, I can't do this. It's too much. So anyways, just a little tip. Girls probably would like it. Again, don't knock it until you try it. It actually kind of probably feels good. I feel like people should be allowed to knock it before they try it. I feel like there should be at least a –

at least one allowed knocking just one then you can pick one pegging or eating whatever one you want to knock but not both no not both yeah that's something when every man turns 18 they have to sign a form it's like the same thing when you sign up for for the selective service you also gotta sign your pegging or eating ass form well you're young it'll change like you know you get older and you get bored i don't think i'm gonna be eating ass when i'm 50 not you someone else will

Your wife of 20 years will be like – I'm going to eat ass on my birthday when I go to the final solar eclipse when I'm 77.

What a way to celebrate. I'm going to get pegged under the solar eclipse when I turn 77. That's cute. Well, I mean, you might as well do it then, you know, on your way out. Yeah. That's the time to do it. I'm not going to die when I'm 77. Oh, okay. I thought that's when you thought you were ending. When do you guys want to live until? Actually, that's a good question. Mine's 77, actually, because he'll be 88. That's my lucky number. He was born in 77. I was born in 88. So when he's 88, I'll be 77, and I think that's when we should both go out together. So you're into the angel numbers? I am. I was born in May 1988, so I have three eights in my birthday. When did you find out about angel numbers?

I don't know, like TikTok or Instagram, you know? How about you? Do you believe in them? I don't know. I think they're so real. I found out through a similar way, too. Yeah? But, like, do you ever think about, like, what if you missed a bunch of angel numbers? Your whole, like, before you found out about angel numbers. Oh, right. But I don't think they were meant. What if there were really important angel numbers that happened earlier in your life? They weren't meant for you. Like, I think you only see them when they're meant for you. You know what I mean? Interesting. And I was born on an angel number. I was 888. So I was like, there's no way I missed it. Like, I was here, you know, for it.

I think that my mom has been into angel numbers for a while. What's hers? I don't know what they are. I think that she just talks about how she sees sevens everywhere. Before I ever heard about angel numbers, she would talk about how she would see sevens in places and then she would apply significance to that. But I would say that my mom has a little bit of a spirituality aspect to her. She wick him? No, no. No.

It's more like I think that she has a... Well, it's more like she has a... I think she sort of has a spiritual relationship with her...

Well her mother my grandmother and that's that's where a lot of it comes from because she you know She was the youngest of six and so I don't know she used to always be the baby and stuff like that when she was growing up and There's actually I forget if I ever told talked about this on another podcast But there was a very like interesting story where she was like I forget if it was from when she was giving birth to me or when she was giving birth to my sister and

but, oh, you know what? It must have been when she was giving birth to me based on the story. I was just remembering the story and she was in the operating room, the birthing room, or I don't know what the fuck you, what's it called? You actually should know this. I don't know either. A birthing room. I don't know. Yeah. Hospital. Um,

And she was like, I think she was talking to my dad and she was like, I don't know if I can do this again. She was like, can really, you know, stressed out. She's about to give birth. And maybe like less than a year before I, the grandmother had passed away. And so she was still kind of like dealing with the grief behind that. But a nurse came into the room.

and said to my mom and my dad, I guess who were in there, whoever was in there, and they were like, can we have her for just a second or whatever? Or her mom is on the phone right now. And mom's dead. Yeah. Oh, my God. And then my mom responded and she was like, well, that must be a long-distance phone call. Oh, my God. And, you know, it was one of those things where I think it turned out to be like they had the wrong room or something like that. But for my mom, it was like that was –

Her mom's way of saying that she was still there for her. Because her whole stress about it was like the last time that she had given birth to someone, her mom was there to support her through it. So she wasn't sure if she could do it. She didn't have her mom with her. Yeah, but then that felt like her way of her mom reaching down from heaven or whatever and saying that she's there. Which I think is – honestly, I think it's a cool story.

Oh, for sure. I believe in those signs. Yeah. So I think that for a lot of people, it can be really helpful. Comforting. Yeah, comforting and stuff like that, which is like kind of what either spirituality or religion is kind of meant to do in the first place.

As opposed to like, I don't know, starting wars and shit, you know? Right, like. You ever heard of the Children's Crusade? No. Dune. I know that's Dune. Dune? Dune? Dune is not the Children's Crusade. I swear. I haven't heard of any of these. No, no. In like medieval times. Have you heard of the Children's Crusade? Oh, wow. In medieval times, the Christian church, I forget if it was the Catholic church or like the.

Orthodox or whatever, but the church, they were doing a bunch of crusades for a while. They were sending people to go retake Jerusalem or whatnot. And they did one where they sent a bunch of kids. And then what happened? Oh, they all fucking died and shit. Wait, a crusade is what? Like a war? Yeah, like it's a holy war. And they all got killed by who? Oh, I mean, they were fucking...

And like, I don't know, like... Wait, why did you... Why were you talking about Children's Crusade from the birth, your mom's birth? Well, because I was talking about spirituality and then I was like... Oh, better than that. It's better. It's helpful to people as opposed to... In religion. You know, as opposed to maybe not so good when it's starting wars and stuff like that, but... Yeah. Let people have their religion. When atheists get so mad about it, I get it, but it's also like, just let them have it. If they're delusional, whatever. It's better, like you said, than like unaliving people, like stabbing people in Australia or something like that, you know? Yeah. Turn to God. I would consider myself to be agnostic, which is like... What's that? Yeah.

- That's like, whatever happens, happens. It's kind of like, leave me out of this. I'm just not involved. - Do you meditate or manifest or anything? - Can't say I'm doing too many manifesting things. - You don't? You don't visualize where you wanna be? You kinda are with the solar eclipse, like I'm 77, I'll be here watching it. - I feel like that's just a goal though. - That's visualizing though, you're seeing yourself. - But isn't that just like a plan?

- Some people don't have plans. You don't manifest like-- - Are you sure that your thoughts on what manifestation is isn't just a different-- - I don't know, honestly. - Are you sure it's just not a synonym for the word plan? - That could very well be. I've never planned before, but now that I manifest-- - This morning I manifested I would have breakfast and I did. - That is manifesting. - We manifested you here. - Yeah, we did manifest you. - We talked and talked and talked. - But you directly DM'd me and you've been talking about me on your podcast.

How manifesting. We talk about a lot of people. I know, but you made an active – so what is manifesting then? Maybe I don't have a proper understanding of what manifesting is. So I think I need to do it. It's funny. Saying even the most unbelievable things and then they like happen. You know what I mean? I don't think that you having a fellow content creator on your podcast was like an unbelievable – I think it is. Especially your time. Yeah. Oh, my God. I haven't really been on that many podcasts I suppose other than my own.

on. You're on so many podcasts. I was seeing so many clips of you unless it was like other podcasts with other people. I guess over the years I've been on plenty but like in terms of like reaching out into other because I suppose you guys would be in a separate section because you know how everything's like kind of split up into sections like you guys are in a different like you guys are in like the

What are we in? Early gay gossip. Yeah, gossip. Bubblegum. Like, I don't know. I feel like you guys are in the section of that world that is, like, surrounded around, like, a lot of...

To be perfectly frank, a lot of drama and vlogging is what I... Wait, what's vlogging? Well, I mean... We're not vloggers over here. Definitely drama. Like drama vlogging LA sphere stuff, you know? Okay. That's at least where I associate it with in my mind. Okay, interesting. Yeah, I agree with you.

tuned in we get the we get the it girls on this podcast and stuff so i would say with like fun girly uh like bubblegum like the nail polish like yeah bubblegum pop pop culturey gay fun kim petras color yes oh love that love that reference yeah choice of on twinks like that's kind of a vibe twinks uh bears twonks otters wolves is that what

Sure, yeah. I've been told that that was what I was reading. I thought I was busting out some deep cut LGBT information. You're more in the gay culture than I am. I was told at one point by an established homosexual. By an established homosexual. You know what's one of those things? It feels like gay is more the norm now. And it feels weird to say homosexual now. It almost feels like an insult. Right. Anyone who's called a homosexual is.

Like it's almost the same as like, it feels almost the same as calling like a black person African-American almost. Right, okay. Or the same vibe at least. Yeah, where it's like, where it's like, when it's so specific that it's like,

Are you racist slash homophobic? Like, why are you saying that? Right. Gay is cute. Homosexual sounds aggressive. Yeah. Yeah. What was I originally saying? Establish homosexual with saying that you're a wolf. Yeah, that a wolf is a thing. Is he? Give me all the, what are all the names? I love when you write it down. We got bear twink. Cub. Cub.

Okay. Baby bear. Did you say otter? Otter, yeah. He's an otter. Yeah. So this is all new info to me. Otter? Really? So do you build like dams in the bedroom? That's a beaver. Wow, you got him. You got him on a science class. That's fair. Okay, fine, fine. Follow up then. When you are, do you sleep in water? And follow up question to that, do you hold hands while you sleep in the water? Ooh. Ooh.

Because that's what otters do. You know about that, right? No idea, but. Otters hold their hands. Really? Hold hands with each other when they sleep so they don't float away from each other. Wait, what? That's so cute. I love that. I wonder if otters are gay like in the wild. For sure. Right? Yeah. And codependent apparently. You know, would you say that they have gay energy? I can't speak as a spokesperson to say that. And they give little clams, I think, when they're in love. I think. They give each other clams? I swear, yeah. So it's kind of sweet. I wish that there was a bee.

type because then that joke would have landed well isn't beaver like vagina wait what yeah that's a beaver and my beaver I don't think that that's a thing I swear beaver I don't think that

Wait, really? I've never heard it called a beaver. You've heard beaver? Wow. Okay, well, both of them are saying it. Okay, but we haven't finished our list yet. So we've got bear, twink, cub, otter. And then there's like silver fox. I guess maybe wolf is like a step above. Maybe wolf is a step above. Like what was the context when they told you? I think it was the same type of conversation when I was asking for that. I was asking for the list of...

like fighting styles and they're like you're a wolf they just made it up yeah and i heard wolf and i was like what does that mean and i i think there was maybe some aspect of like a predatory yeah but not in like the weird way yeah there's like an energy but not like in a bad like a dominating kind of energy yeah i guess yeah yeah like where it's like

I'm going to get you. You know? I would think you're like an owl. You think that if I was gay, I would be an owl gay? Yeah. Yeah. Right? I guess. Is it because of the glasses and the fact that I've given a lot of new information on the podcast? Very wise. And my baby girl, she's into owls. She'll go, whoo.

All the time. Owls are cool. We have a lot of them here. Really? You'd be an owl. Have you seen any of them? Yeah. We have video of it up on our roof. They're like right there from our bathroom. Dude, seeing an owl is awesome. They're huge. I feel like if I ever like – because they don't make noise because they're like stealthy motherfuckers.

Unless other than the times that they're literally giving away their position like an idiot. That's you. Did you guys ever do a thing when you were growing up where you had to dissect owl pellets? Wait, what's a pellet? Well, now I feel crazy for bringing it up. Sounds like poop or something. It is. Owls, they hunt various little tiny scurrying creatures along the floor of the forest, such as shrews, mice, smaller birds occasionally.

And they eat those motherfuckers whole. They swallow those motherfuckers and it's terrifying. But

They're a lot of bones when it comes to like a mouse. These are all vertebraes. They've got bones. They can't – they don't have this kind of the digestive tract where they can poop that shit out. So they got a – like kind of similar to a cat. They have to hack it up. So they'll have like these things called owl pellets. So when I was in maybe elementary school, it might have been just like – I went to a weird elementary school. Yeah.

We would do this thing where they would bring us owl pelts and we'd wear gloves or whatever and we would take them apart and kind of pull the bones out of these animals and kind of try to figure out what they would like. You know, sometimes someone would find like a head of a mouse or something like that, like a skull of a mouse or like little stuff and kind of like, I don't know. They gave you real ones? Because usually like-

You know? Do you ever have to do that? I had to do a frog. Yeah. That smelled so bad. But they like pre – they made them nice for you. It wasn't like a real dead frog. They put like yellow stuff in there and stuff. Like they would clean them up for you. Yeah. But I think my biggest issue was the smell because it's like – So awful. They were –

like prevented from decomposing with some sort of fluid or some sort of chemical. And it was like, that was like the worst smell ever. I like still kind of, I feel like I can imagine it and it's been like fucking probably eight years. I wonder why they do that. I wonder if they still do it. Because they probably, it's probably one company that does it and like ships it out to a bunch of schools where it's like, here's your fucking frog. But what's the point? Like who ever needs that in life? I mean, what's the point of any education really?

I guess so you don't get scammed. I wish I knew math. I never did math. Yeah, if someone was trying to sell me a dead frog, I'm going to want to be able to be prepared to dissect that thing and make sure that all its parts are there if I'm going to be able to use it for my purposes. I guess, yeah, if you're trying to eat a frog. Were you in Newton, Massachusetts? Is that where you grew up? No, no. I was in Middlesex County, which is –

I mean, I guess I'm doing a video. I'm from Acton, Massachusetts. Okay. Which is the same town that Steve Carell grew up in. Oh, that's the vibe you give me. You give him my vibe. You have a lot of vibes. You're like Steve Carell. You're like Garrett Watts. I tell a lot of people tell me that I give dad vibes. You definitely dad vibes for sure. Yeah, which is like kind of a – that's always a weird one because it's almost – like I get it that people are into dad bods and stuff these days and they like the dad energy and they like someone who can hold down a home. Yeah.

And it's a conversation. There's an aspect of it that almost feels a little backhanded because it's like, oh, so you think that I'm like – I'm actively 26 and you think that I'm like 45. Definitely. Nothing against people who are of middle age. Literally 45 right here. That's sort of why I was adding that explanation there. Nothing against that. You're beautiful and you're natural and –

you know, when you're 26, you won't be being told that you have energy. You do give off 45 energy when I find how young you are. But you look young. That's so crazy that you're saying that because I almost just explicitly said that I didn't want that to be said. That was good because it means you're

means you're so smart like you actually because the dad energy is because you're so smart you know what I mean like I've never met anyone that knows all this information there's plenty of dumb dads out there isn't that like part of the charm yeah but that's not dad energy that's like baby daddy energy you know what I mean we want like dad you're around you're with the kids yeah like a guy that doesn't isn't oh yeah I've heard that word so much and I had a notion of what I mean I need I never got confirmation you know sometimes happens where it's like you kind of know what a word is like gooning yeah yeah odd

Otter, all of the stuff like that. I just feel like, yeah, the baby – because like some people aren't married and they have a baby daddy. You know what I mean? They call him like a sperm donor because he's not like active in the kid's life, you know, even if they're like married or whatever. That's a brutal way to call him a sperm donor. I see that all the time now on TikTok. Did you know that there was a guy that got arrested in like Sweden or something because he was sperm donating too much? We talked about this, didn't we? Was it – Moses was telling us. Wait, what? He had like – because the reason why that they don't let you –

they give a limit to how much you can sperm donate is because you don't want, like they don't really tell you who the father is and stuff. So if you, if you're donating too much sperm, you quite literally are bringing up the potential of becoming the next Genghis Khan in the sense that like there are people who are going to be really,

potentially related to each other. Yes. We did talk about this. Maybe they don't know it that are going to be having sex and you know a lot of people call that incest. Yeah. Incest is not it. It is not it. People do not like it. Incest is cancelled. Yeah. It has been cancelled. As they say. We just talked about it.

this too it was a hot topic i don't know why i saw that clip on game of thrones and i was like oh my god they were like brother and sister having sex like i didn't know when i watched game of thrones i didn't know they were brother and sister i was like damn why did they need to make that show i mean they were doing that a lot in the medieval times not saying the game of thrones is like historically accurate but it must be a little bit right why would they just make that up oh especially those frost guys those who she didn't get that far oh yeah didn't they show up in the first episode

The Frost guys? I've only watched one episode of Game of Thrones and I've never seen it. I thought the Frozen people were at the end. The blue people. The blue people that were like. Yeah, the blue people. They're kind of at the end, I think. I watched the first season for Jason Momoa and that's all I watched. And there was definitely no Frozen people. That's fair. That's fair. Yeah. I get that. He gives. He's dad energy for sure. He seems smart. He can kill some animals and feed you. But he is also a dad. So I guess that. Oh, right. Oh, I see what you're saying. You don't like it because you just feel like too young to be dad energy. Yeah. That. Yeah. Yeah.

I think I go through phases, you know, because I think I've accepted to a certain point that I will always give this energy that I do. Like, I'm not going to be, like, cool. Like, I'm not going to be like, like...

Let me think of an example. I think you're cool. I think you're cool. No, no, no. You got to understand. You're not David Dobrik. But that's so – you're so in your own lane. When I did the deep dive on you, I was like, oh my god, this person is so different than anybody, which is like good. You know what I mean? Like we don't need like more David Dobriks. You know what I mean? They're all like whatever. They're out there. No offense. I mean I'm not like whatever shading. But you know what I mean? It's just such a different energy. Yeah. You know? He would never know about like the foam brightnesses or anything like that. Or

Or care about otters. But we never labeled him. Actually, I didn't get clarification on what is that, if you're comfortable sharing, what does it mean to be an otter? I would say like otter is kind of like

Because Twink is like skinny smooth. And then Otter is like a little bit beefier and like a little hairier. And then Cub is even beefier. And then Bear is like old and beefy, if that makes sense. Oh, so Bear has to be like older. Yeah. Yeah. I think once like late 30s, 40s and you get to Bear territory. Like Bert Kreischer would be a Bear. I don't know that.

them. So if I twas to be a homosexual, what would you identify me as? I think you would almost be otter by default because... Is that kind of the default gay? I think a lot of them are twinks. Twink, twunk, and then... Twunk? Yeah. Okay, well, this is new. You didn't bring that up. I guess that's a subcategory.

A twunk is like a next step of evolution almost. Like a twink. It's like a little bit older of a twink. A little in between hunk and twink is a twunk. So the twink is there. It's like Charmander. Then it goes through the infamous twink death. Yes. Oh my – you're so with it. Yeah, he's smart. He can't do it quick. And then it becomes a twunk. So is a twunk just a –

So it's just a chunkier twink? A more like built. Older. Yeah. Yeah. Okay. And then. So what would a.

If you got someone who used to be a twink, they went through twink death, but they became a body builder. Like they're straight up doing shows and stuff. Is that still a twunk or is that like now you're a muscle? Or have they jumped over categories? You jump. Yeah. Then you kind of like in-hunk muscle. Is there any sort of like larger sort of organization or board that keeps track of this? Like do you get a license? Maybe there's like a grinder board or something. Did you have to like apply for this or like? To be gay or what?

No, no, no. Like, I don't know. It's just kind of like... To classify? To classify. It's just kind of like one of those things where it's like Hunger Games or something. Like, it's like you kind of are assigned your... Your, like, district or something? Your district, like... Definitely Hunger Games vibes. It is, yeah. Like, I feel like, you know... He's Hunger Games quoted. Totally, yeah, I am. Yeah, he loves Hunger Games. But I think once you're, like, in the apps, like, once you're in Grindr and stuff or, like, Scruff, then you kind of get, like... Scruff? Yeah, so... Scruff is fun. That's a great name for a...

This is a gay dating app? Yeah. That's a great name for one. It was like the alternative to Grindr for like the otters, cubs. But then a lot of twinks went over because then it became cool to like the dad bod type. So Grindr is Tinder, Scruff is Hinge. I guess maybe. But now there's like a lot of crossover. There's like a lot of skinny people on Scruff now. It became a problem for me when I was younger.

When I was like on the apps. They're infiltrated. Yeah, because then it became – like the skinny guys were getting all the bigger – like the bigger, more built guys. And it's like, okay, well, the skinny people – you get the skinny people. Stick together. Like don't come over here because then you're making it harder for me. They should have that for straight people, the people who like prefer bigger versus skinny because straight people, there's preferences. People like skinny. Some people like big. You know what I mean? Here's a question I have about –

I love how inquisitive you are about gay culture. I know. This is how smart. I do have questions that I need an answer. Because I think I've heard this before, but I wanted to hear your opinion on it about the experience of being gay. Because obviously it's like dudes. And I feel like dudes in general have a different perspective than women as opposed to a woman-on-woman relationship or a...

had a heterosexual relationship on Grindr and dating apps and stuff. Is it really, really hookup-y? Oh, yeah. Because it's two men. Yeah. It's like all hookup-y. Yeah, because that's what I've heard. So like, is there like an app that's, because I,

I guess that's why I was asking about like is like Grindr, Tinder, and then like Scruff is Hinge. Like is there like some sort of like gay dating app that's like meant for like the design to be deleted kind of thing? Kind of just Hinge, honestly. Or like even Tinder gets kind of hooked up to you. That works too. You guys are allowed to be on Hinge at the end of the day. Like we're on there too. Yeah.

Because those gay ones you talked about, even like Sniffy, are like strictly hookup. Sniffy? Sniffy's the whole of it. Dude, these are crazy names. The profile picture. Sniffy? Is that just for what? It just shows like your member is the profile picture. Like it just shows straight up. It's your schlong or your hole is your photo. Yeah. That one's wild. It's like we're just getting down to it.

Like they could literally be down the street. So like it shows how close you are. It's just all dick pics? Yeah. Yeah. And holes. And it shows how close you guys are. So if you want to go get it in now, there could be someone down the street and their alert is on and you just go down the street and get it in. Uh-huh. And then it shows like if there's like public areas that you could get.

Public areas? Yeah, that are like, you know, on the low that you can get it on. Like an alley? An alley. A steam room. A steam room, a bathroom. A steam room seems a little bit low. A park. Not an alley. I guess some people do the alleys. I was trying to understand it. No, alleys are definitely on there. Like parking garages. Yeah. I know the best alley for this. It's kind of hot. I would never do it, but that's kind of hot, I guess. You're just so... That's the thing. I think that there's an aspect that some people like about like public...

like having doing stuff in public. - Yeah. - It's a little bit, I mean, there's, you know, I hope that people aren't going around doing that in like full on public spaces, like people having sex in general. - I think they do. - Like people do that? - Oh, I think like Disneyland people have been kicked out and stuff. - What? - Really? - Wait, what? - Yes, people like they stop at rides, like Haunted Mansion when they stop to ride. - No way. - It's usually like a handy or something, but someone's usually doing something. - Oh, well that's not that bad. - That's so gross. Or Small World, right? - Then the only thing around you is ghosts.

The ghosts don't mind. They're dead. They're canceled. They're canceled. They don't care. But Small World, there was a guy that was naked, butt naked in Small World. I mean, who hasn't thought about giving a handy on the haunted mansion? That's true. It's dark, I guess. I thought we were talking about like, you know, like.

Full on. Full frontal or bruntal, you know? I wouldn't talk about it if it happened because Disney keeps things hush-hush, but I'm sure it's happened. They do. People go there all the time and they're like, Molly, and they're rolling. I'm sure that's happened for sure. Oh, one of my favorite things of all time is to go to...

amusement park and get like just the proper amount of tipsy. Oh, yeah. You guys thought I was going somewhere worse. Yeah. Poppers or something. Poppers are

- Poppers, have you done poppers? - I have tried them. - Wait, what? - What? - That's so gay coded because that's only in West Hollywood. - I was in the acapella community in college. Of course I've tried poppers. - And everyone was doing poppers in the acapella group? - No, I was just shown them at a party by a friend of mine. - It's supposed to relax your butthole. - That's what I've heard as well, yes. - And that's why you did them or what? - No, I was at a party. I wasn't-- - But why did you do it? - Wasn't that kind of party.

It was only for a minute or two. Well, yeah, because it was just like, you want to try this? It just makes you feel tingly or whatnot. Oh, I've never heard anybody say that. I remember it being very interesting. It was like...

It's one of those things, though, where I feel like if you did that all the time, I would worry about, like, does it damage your internals of your nostrils? What does it do to your brain and stuff, too? I think it's the blood. Like, it stops. Does it slow down the flow of blood or something? Because the way it works is it makes the...

the blood vessels in your like constrict, right? Yeah. So it just slows everything down, I think. Have you ever tried poppers before? No, I definitely have, but I think it's just like a minute. You're like... They're also like... I feel like nowadays too, it's...

a general party drug. I feel like, like I've heard, you know, I've heard, I've heard of people who, who like, I heard of someone who, uh, had tried to like at a bar, someone was just walking around with poppers at a bar. Yeah. No, it's left the gay sphere. Yeah. Maybe because choice of on, cause his song is about poppers. Yeah. Yeah. I feel the rush addicted to your touch. Cause rush is a brand of poppers, that yellow bottle.

So I think everyone, like Troye Sivan made poppers like cool maybe. Maybe. Went to mainstream with them. Maybe. The acapella kids know what's up. They're like, here's some poppers. Well, the person who showed it was also gay. Oh, okay. Well, there you go. That's what it is. Well, the implication was that there's probably, that there are a lot of

Like in the same way that musical theaters are a lot of gay people that are involved in. In acapella? Yeah. It makes it seem like they're all straight. There was no gays in acapella really. And I was just like, why did they make them all straight in that movie? Oh, there are gays in acapella. Well, I mean, that makes sense. But it's just like. In Glee, there were, there was like only two gays. Which is crazy because I'm like, Glee comes out mostly gay. I think that Glee was like one of those things where it was in the midst. Like Glee was happening before like even the Supreme Court.

like thing too. Like we were in like early 2000s. I think it was still in the moment of like before. The legalization of things. Yeah, the legalization of poppers. Of what? Like gay mayhorses. Oh, poppers. Oh, okay. I was like, whatever. No, it was a landmark thing. It was like poppers are allowed now. Were you into Glee? Like did you ever think of yourself as being on it? No, I wasn't into Glee and I've seen clips recently and I'm like, man,

I don't think I could be into it. Oh, no. If they rebooted Glee, you would fit as the fan. I feel like they need to reboot. I could get into it maybe if they rebooted it because I've seen clips of it and I'm like, this shit looks so fucking lame.

It was so good. This shit looked so fucking lame. Oh, man. See, that's what's – you're like – it's so weird because you are like a theater creative type, but you don't like like the glee and stuff of it all. Like that's what's cool. That's like, yeah. You know what I mean? Like you just are too cool for it. And it's like, oh, that gives you like athlete vibes. That gives you jock vibes. That gives you like masculine energy vibes. Well, I did do some sports and stuff.

Oh, you did? In high school. Yeah, I did. Well, I wasn't on the straight up school teams, but I did intramural basketball and stuff. And I used to do travel basketball in middle school and stuff. Oh, that's very fin coded. I did a little bit of football when I was much younger. I did Pop Warner football, which is kids football or whatnot, but I didn't like it. I didn't

Which was a bummer because my dad is like, he likes football. He's one of his side things that he does besides his normal job is he works as a football ref. Oh, wow. Did you get into watching it with him? More so into baseball with my dad because we both would go to Red Sox games when I was growing up. Oh, okay. So you're still into sports. Yeah, I'd say so. I don't get sports either. Well, okay. Sports and science. Actually,

- I'm into going to the games. I'll go to, 'cause my dad's just like, he's a season ticket holder for the Red Sox, so I would go to, well it's actually not as intense as you sound. - That's like, no every game. - Well no, because what he'll do is, it's however much money, maybe 3K or something per year, but what he would do is he'd get all the tickets in bulk, all the physical tickets, and then he is like the guy

the town and he goes around and it's like, okay, you want this game on this date? Okay, here's the, like he'll sell the tickets. So like he gets to have these established seats, but then like he only really pays for the ones that he wants to go to because he's selling the rest of them. Oh, that's so smart. He's like you. He's like a smart business man. And then there's cool things that you get as a season ticket holder when you're like, like what?

Like popcorn or something? Ooh, and a hat? No, it's more like they do little events for season ticket holders before or after the season. There was this one time that we got to... My dad took me to somewhere. We got to go walk on the field or something like that at the end of the season or something like that. And then also, they'll do auctions off of parts of the stadium of...

So like when they were replacing the bleacher seats for Fenway Park, they were selling the bleacher seats. So in my hometown, at my parents' house, there's three bleacher seats from Fenway Park. Oh, that's cool. That's actually really cool. Yeah. Yeah, that's pretty dope. He hasn't put them anywhere really. They're kind of just like sitting on the patio. But at some point if I like get a house or something like that, I would really want to like get them up so I could like have a piece of like that out here. That's cool.

That'd be so cool. Yeah, isn't that neat? It's also very Legally Blonde coded. They got the home base from Fenway Park and got married, her and Emmett. Do you remember that? At the end of Legally Blonde 2? Oh, I haven't seen the sequels, I don't think. Oh, yeah. They got it from Fenway Park. I don't know why that was so weird. She's like, he loves it. And so they got the home base, got married. Well, yeah. She was going to Harvard. Yeah. Oh, that's cool.

That's true. That's very Boston code. It's very U code. Is your dad like, what's he do? He sounds very bougie. What's he do? He has season tickets. Well, he's honestly, my parents didn't do like anything like super crazy. He's like a project manager for like a software company. So you're not like a nepo baby, right?

It sounds like it would be, right? You know, yeah. No, I mean, I wasn't. Yeah. I don't think I was. I mean, they're not YouTubers. They're not in film or anything like that. Which is crazy because you do film. You do YouTube. But you're not really – That would have been awesome if they were. It would have been a little bit easier to kind of figure my shit out. But you don't – that's why I'm just confused and not trying to get too personal. But it's like you make money but you only post like – what? Was it nine videos a year or something like that? But last year I only posted five.

five videos, which was really bad. How are you making money? The podcast, I guess. Well, the podcast is on a recurring basis. Is that weekly? I mean, to be honest, Trish, let's be honest. Just whenever you feel like it? You're probably making loads more than I am at this point. No, you're bougie. You're bougie for sure. I've looked it up.

I'm making enough, I think. I'm making a good amount of money, I feel like. Oh, you stream too, right? Not really. I've been streaming a lot recently, but usually I don't stream. So. It's mostly just the YouTube videos and the podcast.

Wow. I'm trying to figure out. Well, where else am I? Damn. But you do sponsors sometimes, right? Oh, yeah. Well, I do sponsors. So it's like sponsors pay well and then there's also like the ad revenue on like a video like a Margaritaville or the Barbie video that I did is like because they're so long.

and the way that like the YouTube like ad revenue stuff works it's like it's gonna have a pay a higher like rate so it's like it ends up being kind of worth it if you want to go that route of like doing these really in-depth videos that are long because they do end up

kind of paying better and they also do very good in terms of views but they're kind of risky because then it's like you have to be really sure of the idea that you're going to do. What do you mean? Like that people are going to like it? That it's going to do well in general in the algorithm and stuff. The Barbie one is like crazy. Well, I guess because Barbie was such a trend. I had a feeling Barbie was going to be good.

But you watched all the old Barbie movies too. It wasn't even like the new. It was like you're going into the Swan Princess and stuff, like all the crazy ones. Oh yeah, I started from the beginning and all the way into the... Did you actually do it? Yes. You watched that through and watched the full length of all of them. Yeah, no. That's why I had like a...

I had footage for each in between each one of me visibly like clicking and watching and like purchasing each one. Like I, yeah. And you did it by yourself? I took a time lapse on GoPro behind me too of like watching everyone, but they were, it's like the footage was like glitchy and like laggy for some reason. So I didn't use it that much in the video. Oh my God. But I did in case people would. Question it. Yeah, question it. I did take a, I've got them. I still got that footage. How long did it take you? Oh,

It took me six days to watch them all. But it would have taken five normally, but I fell asleep on the second to last day. It doesn't count if I fall asleep. Well, yeah. So I had to – like whatever movie I was watching, I had to finish watching that next day. So it was like I fell asleep on the couch and I woke up and I was like – so I like watched like the last three on like the final day. You're dedicated. What was the conclusion? What did you come to? The conclusion? Yeah. Like that has to be the ending. So –

Barbie is genetically modified clone that operates in a larger decentralized hive mind to achieve a goal across thousands, potentially millions of years. Oh. To be honest.

Wow, that was so smart. Did you follow it? Or was that just made up words? I feel like you literally just made up words. Barbie's a clone. She's a clone. And all of her sisters are younger clones. And each Barbie operates in a little, like each of them are like a fire squad. And they're spread across the globe or wherever. And you've got the head Barbie, which is named Barbie. And then you've got her younger sister Skipper. Then you've got Stacy. Then you've got Chelsea or Skipper.

Kelly, rest in peace. She dying? You know, I think that, I think she's dead. Okay. I didn't know about her. Well, if you knew about her, you'd be concerned when you found out how she disappeared without any warning. Oh my God.

And my theory is that, you know, you've got that lead clone and they're training all the other clones on how to be a Barbie, but they just take on different roles as they get to each age and they pretend to be just a group of sisters. But I think it's something much more nefarious. I think if you, did you watch the new Barbie movie? I think it has a whole different perspective. I think these old ones are just outdated. Well. You didn't watch the new one? I did. Okay. And it kind of threw everything I learned into a wrench. Right. A little wrench and things. The opposite.

Then I had a lot of people in my comments saying, well, actually, it is what you thought, Ted, because it's a group of people all named Bart. Well, no, they have different names. There's like Midge and there's like, you know, there's different names.

the movie. Yeah, there's Midge, Barbie's best friend from the 50s. But, you know, but no, the purpose of the video, the initial goal was like, I'm the, because I did the challenge in May of last year. Oh, before the movie. Before the movie came out. So I was like, this movie's coming out. I'm going to, I would look like an idiot if I walked there without knowing all the Barbie lore. You wanted, yeah. Like, I would be laughed at at the theater. Wow.

- Wow, you did your research. - So I'm gonna watch every Barbie movie ever made in order to get up to date on the lore. - Wow. - And so that's what I did. It took me almost a year to finish the video because it was such a fucking monster. - Wait, to edit? - Yeah, I mean, it was one of those things where I was working on the video

And, you know, the bar movie came out and I was like, okay, it's fine because it just came out. It'll be no problem. But then the writers in SAG strike happened. And I don't know if you were aware of this, but they put at least SAG put out a little blast to influencers that were like, that was like, hey,

You can talk about movies and stuff if you want, but if you do take any sponsorships or talk about movies that would be struck works, paid or not, then you will never be admitted to SAG. I'm not necessarily trying to get into SAG, but I don't want to close that door. So I was like, okay.

I got to put a, you know, hold on the Barbie thing until the strikes are over, which they ended whenever they did. And then I was kind of like just in a period where I was like trying to get the gears moving on it and it just took a while. But then once I did, I like slammed through it and then. Released it. How long did it take you to edit it? Oh man, like maybe 200 hours of editing at least. Like it was, it was an hour and 48 minute long video, you know? How many ads are you putting in like every like five minutes? We do on ours. We're like every, that's why we go

That's why we go three hours. To be honest, do you guys do it manually? Yeah, Moses puts it in. You do? I usually just kind of let YouTube put in whatever they think they should put in. I haven't actually – I do the same thing with a podcast. Should I be doing – Yes. It changed our whole monetization. Like you guys started making more cash? Oh, yeah. I know about this. I've done YouTube 17 years. I never once put ads in a video. I had no idea how it worked. I like monetized it, but I didn't know how to put ads. Please tell Ted what your idea of editing is though. Oh, well, I don't edit. Like your notion of what it means? No.

I know what it, I don't edit. I don't know how to edit. My editing is this, okay, right? Because he's, Oscar's our editor because I don't know how to edit. And 17 years of doing YouTube, I've never edited a video. But I do splice pieces together, right? I put the clips together. Yes. So when we're like filming a video, right? Like let's say I burp or something like that, I just start and stop. So I know to like cut at that point and then pick up at that point. Do you know what I mean? That way you don't have to edit. It just like, it stops, okay? It goes to the editing is

Yeah, you just start and stop it. So that's why when I'm like – when I say edit this out, I'm like, well, you know if I don't start and stop it? Like I would never watch myself back. Like that's crazy. For the podcast? Like you stop speaking and then you start speaking again? Or like her own like channel. Or like you're stopping and starting the camera. Like for if I'm doing an eating video, I start and stop the camera. Oh, so there's like –

Is there just like hundreds of clips for each? Yeah. I did one today. It was like a minute each. But you still need to cut the tail end of the clip that you stopped. That's my editing. I split the clip and I can delete the end of it. Could you imagine watching yourself back after you just filmed the video? Like I would never do that. That's what everyone does. Never. Never did it in my life. I never would. So you don't watch your own videos? Never. That sounds horrible. Even to have to redo something, like the audio is off for 10 minutes. It's like, I'm like, absolutely not. I can't redo. I don't want to watch it. I don't want to hear it. I don't want to redo it.

Like you spend 200 hours watching yourself like crazy. Yeah. I used to – I mean it used to be weird at first. Like when you first start doing it, it's like you don't really want to hear it because I think that when people –

A lot of the time people don't – honestly, nowadays I don't think it's actually much of a thing. Back when it was just the VHS camera and stuff like that, people thought the sound of their voices was weird. But now everyone is filming themselves and everyone is – I still don't want to hear myself talk at all. But I don't know. I've gotten used to it. Yeah, no. I very much spend a lot of time editing myself. Well, that's good you get all those views then because it would suck if you got like 40,000 and you spent that time. You know what I mean? Oh, yeah. That would suck.

Your views are wild. Even your old ones, your Fiverr ones were getting like a million views. And if you only had like – Really? Yeah. I was looking at them. Like they were getting views. What made you even want to become a YouTuber? You went to college. You're bougie. And then you're like, oh, I want to go become a YouTuber. Wait. What aspect of me is bougie? You went to private college. You're an acapella singer. Your dad has been waiting hard seats in his house. Yeah. So I got to talk about the private college thing. There's two – it's not like the same thing as like – I think the angle that you're coming at this from mentally is that it's like the same thing as like being going to a private school like a high school. Yeah.

Yeah, that is kind of. But it's not like the same thing. There's just two types of colleges that you can go to. You can either go to a public college, like a public university, or you can go to a private university. But in both of those scenarios, you got to pay. More. You probably pay more for private. Yeah.

Yeah, for sure. University of San Diego is private and it's like so expensive. Yeah, but USC is like fucking – That's true. Like $70,000 a year, you know? That's crazy. Who has that money? I think if you go to college, you're just bougie. Well, no one has that money. That's why everyone gets loans. Did you get a loan? I did, yeah. Okay, well –

Then maybe – okay, well, it's still bougie. I still think to get a loan is bougie. Everything is bougie about it. But I couldn't get a loan to save my life or anything. I've never had a loan. Yeah. But anyways, so why did you become a YouTuber? What's your credit score? Oh, it's better now. It's like 700. It used to always be like 400. Like when I met him, it was like 480. I feel like that's more why you didn't get a loan. Oh, for sure. That, yeah. When I was 18, I used to take out credit cards and never pay them and then that was it. You know what I mean? See –

Yeah. That's wild. Is that fun? Well, that's just terrifying for me because that was like when I was growing up, my parents were like, never get a credit card. You will die. It's true. Because I've got like ADHD and stuff and like my parents raising me,

Like the way I was, they definitely thought I was going to like try to buy a boat if I got a credit card. They were like, this kid is going to be $100,000 in debt at 18 and a half. So I didn't have a – No credit cards. I didn't have a credit card until I moved – I didn't have a credit card until 2020. Wow. Until I moved out here to LA. Like I was rocking the debit card the whole –

That's the way to go. I've only had a debit card since I was 18 now. Yeah, and I forget to use my credit card because it's scary. So scary. Because I'm like, I forget to pay it. That's terrifying to me. But I've been trying to use it more because apparently it builds credit. But basically what I do is I'll buy something and then the moment that – and then I'll – whenever the price shows up, I'll just pay it off immediately. So it's basically like a debit card. I wish there was a credit card that just pays it off.

Automatically. Well, it's debit, right? Yeah, but then you want to build your credit because I guess if you use it, it's like about usage if you use it a lot. Right, that's true. I don't fully understand it either. It's one of those things where there's a lot of credit card whizzes out there that are like, okay, you've got to get this Discover Platinum Deluxe Come card where you'll get triple the points on credit.

flights and you know my boyfriend is like that he loves his credit score he like is obsessed with it yeah Moses too he had like a perfect credit score when I met him you got perfect credit score I had he got married to me so you know what happens don't marry someone who has bad credit we found this out we did a joint account and his credit score went boop but that must have fucking sucked dude oh my god it really sucked

No, it's like a sore spot for him, for sure. Are you working it back up? Are you like almost – It doesn't matter. I didn't even get a loan for this house. What do we have to do? We had to do one based on my income because I couldn't get a regular loan. I'm like, well, show us you make money. And I was like, all right. You've been around for a while. Yeah, 17 years. Not from an age perspective, from like a perspective of like –

Like I recently saw something where it was like you were in an Eminem music video. Oh, yeah, 2009. You probably were still in high school in 2009. In 2009, I was 11. Oh, my God. That's crazy because that seems like – that's crazy. That's actually – I know. I feel young and hip and then I like hear that stuff and I'm like, oh, my God, yeah. How old were you when you shot that music video? 21. 21.

That's not, okay. Well, that's not that bad. But I, that seems like yesterday. Must have been. How was it being 21 in 2009? What was it like? Oh, it was everything. It's so different now. I feel like you could have done like- Because that was like, that was like, that must have meant that like Kesha was playing in all the bars and stuff too. Yeah.

I never went to bars. That must have been crazy. It was crazy. I blacked out those years, like 2006 to like 2010. Like I always say this, I missed everything, like Twilight, Justin Bieber. Like, I don't know. You missed Twilight? I missed Twilight. That seems like something that would be right up your alley. Well, now I love it. Yeah. I'm like, I'm kind of like,

I'm catching up. You know what I mean? I was just blacked out for like five years of my life. You probably don't know my past, but I was like a stripper. I was on Hollywood Boulevard just doing drugs till like 3 a.m. Just like passed out all the time. So I just missed that part of my life. You know what I mean? So how did you end up on the pathway to where you are today from –

the stripper Hollywood Boulevard. Yeah, I actually was a stripper in a Shane Dawson video. He hired me to be- Interesting. Yeah, in 2011, I think, or 2010, I think. So he put out like what, a blast on like backstage or something like that? Yeah, yeah, that's exactly what it was. Was it actually backstage? It was LA Casting. Oh, okay. Yeah, so it was LA Casting and like a lot of my stripper friends were like, oh, there's this, I didn't know who he was. I had YouTube, but I didn't monetize it. And I saw his house and it was like so bougie and big and he was my age and I was like, oh my God, how do you like a four-

He was paying us like so much money, like $500 for like an hour. And I was like, wow, this is amazing. Get a credit score of 650. You're like a loser. Yeah.

You're like, bougie. Oh, my God. The credit score is so hot. When he said he had that, I was like, oh, he's going to get us our house. It's great. But then marrying me, it just got – anyways, that's the whole thing. But then I met Shane. Yeah, we got the house. Thank God. But poor credit scores. So, yeah, then I met Shane and he was just telling me he was like a YouTuber. And I was making YouTube, but I didn't know he could like monetize it. And so I just started – yeah, I collabed with him a lot and then kind of just did it full time. And I was making more money doing that than like escorting. You know what I mean? So I was like, oh, yeah. Right.

Yeah. It must have been – and I imagine it must have been like – I feel like escorting that –

You must run into like people like or who are like annoying and shit and like yeah when you're doing YouTube It's like you're kind of working for yourself. Like I feel like YouTube is like a lot a lot of time It's like preferential to a lot of things because it's like you're working for yourself, you know But in 2012 YouTube so many annoying youtubers. I think I'd rather be escorting. You know what I mean? It was the year of the collab so you're collabing with people like you can't even know anymore. When I released my first YouTube video in 2011 and back then it was like

It wasn't like cool to be a YouTuber in 2011. No? You weren't into like Smosh and stuff? Because they were really cool. Well, no. I knew of like – but like in terms of – I'm speaking from the perspective in terms of like back then like if you were trying to make YouTube videos as a kid, you don't want people to know that you're trying to make YouTube videos or be a YouTuber because it – I feel like nowadays it's like, oh, so-and-so is a TikToker now because they had something –

they had like one video of them ranting blow up on TikTok. Right, yeah. Like there's so much more accessibility to that to enter as a content creator or somehow build something. Whereas back then I had to like learn how to fucking edit on Sony Vegas. I was like making like gaming videos and stuff. Oh my gosh. But yeah, no, I didn't tell anyone that I was like making YouTube videos and like nobody like really knew about that. Right.

Really wait, so why were you doing it? We're trying to like make cuz I liked it. I wanted to do it I think I think I had just seen youtubers doing I was like this is a cool thing and I like video games and I want to do that and then I you know later on got into like watching commentary and stuff and for a while I wasn't sure if I could do it because I wasn't sure if I was confident enough in my own like comedic writing skills or whatnot but then I just started trying it out and

And then eventually it started working out. It wasn't really until I started meeting people online who were also YouTubers that were also doing pretty decently that I started to...

kind of get encouraged to do it because I was making like one video every like five months when I had like 4,000 subscribers like for several years and then it wasn't until like 2018, halfway through 2018, I actually started to try. Wow. That's so recent. Who was it that you met that you're like, oh, this is like a possibility. This is something I could do for my career. It was the group of people that I was in the YouTube group Lunch Club with. Lunch Club? What is that? So it was like –

it is now shut down but it was me, Schlatt, Carson, Cooper, Noah, Travis. Wow, so many bros. It's like a fraternity. Yeah, no, it was a whole group thing but in me, I met all those guys through that and through the streaming stuff and it was through that that I was like, oh, this is like something I could probably do and yeah.

- That's amazing, so you had the click then and you're in a cool click now. You really are in that click again. We talked about cutie Cinderella, Hassan, Poke mains coming on. - It was because I came from all the people that I knew when I was coming up, even though I was making commentary videos, were gaming streaming people. It's funny, I feel like I'm always in this weird scenario where it's like, and they kind of cross over anyways in terms of YouTube clicks. I feel like the gaming and commentary spaces cross over a little bit.

But I was just in this position where it was like, I just knew a bunch of people in the commentary space. And then I know a bunch of people in the gaming space, like in the streamer space and stuff, which is cool because I like all those people and stuff. And no, you're so cool. That's what I'm saying. You are the cool kid. Like you definitely are in the cool group. You're the cool kid. Like there's no one cooler. Am I in the cool group? Would you say I'm in a cool group? Yeah, absolutely. We've been trying to all of them. Wait a second. Otter is alliterative. You're Oscar the Otter. He is Oscar the Otter. That's fun. I had to say it was going to leave my

if I didn't turn it down. I'm glad you did. You're Ted the Turtle. That's your alliteration. That seems like it wouldn't be a good type of gay to be, though. A turtle? Yeah, because then it feels like you're talking about a scared meat gay that looks like Mitch McConnell. I don't know.

I don't know who that is. You don't know Mitch McConnell? No. Are you surprised by that? No. Is it a political person? Yeah. No. He's old, too. He's real. No idea. He's old and he looks exactly like a turtle. Yeah. Have you seen Mitch McConnell? He looks like a turtle, doesn't he? And I don't even feel bad. I'm going to say that live. You're alive. Yeah. Turtle's cute. Because it's Mitch McConnell. Yeah. I don't care about hurting Mitch McConnell's feelings. Oh, my God. Okay. No.

You said you don't want anyone to have bad blood with you, and now you're like calling him out. I can have bad blood with Mitch McConnell. I don't think that I'm going to have a problem with that. It's fucking Mitch McConnell. He might see this the way you saw clips of it. Mitch McConnell isn't even – I don't even think he's seeing at all right now. Is he at all? I don't know. He did a thing at one point where he was like doing a speech, and he like – he shut down like an android. Like he froze. Oh, I saw that on TikTok. Yeah, so you had – Or he's like –

Yeah, he looks like a turtle. But that's not a bad thing. Turtles are fine. They're cute. They're whatever. Yeah, when you're a human and you look like a turtle, it's a bad thing because you're supposed to look like a human. I don't know. He does look like a turtle, though. But that's cool. I don't know. When humans look like animals, that's pretty cool. Yeah, so that's why I think that if there was a type of gay called a turtle, then that feels almost like a – are there any sort of insult categories? What kind of categories? The more femme ones, I guess, are kind of insulting, like –

I guess. I don't know. Oh, my gosh. I'm going to bleep it. Isn't that just a slur? I feel like that's just a slur. I don't think it's a category. It's kind of like a more mannerism thing. Like, if you're faggoty, if you want to use, like, an adjective or, like, adverb, I guess. Okay. That's kind of more, like, insult-y. But, like, is there a group there? Is there, like, a subgroup? What does it mean to be that word that I won't say? Actually, you know, twink is a little – twink can be used, like, in a defamatory way.

depending on context. Interesting. Yeah. I feel like if you're a gay turtle, though, it's like you're just uncircumcised. You know what I mean? Because it just covers itself back into its shell. That could be a thing. You know, it pokes out. We were the number two podcast on Grindr, so maybe our impact will... They have podcasts on Grindr? It was like the Grindr Awards. We were number two. The people who used Grindr voted that we're number two podcast. It's a big deal to be here in town. They're going to love you on Grindr. Yeah.

That's so interesting. Oh, yeah. So wait, what's your guys' demographic in general? That's a good question. A lot of gays? A lot of gays and girls, I think. The gays and the girlies. It's a lot of girls and the 10% boys are gay. Like on YouTube, like what's the, like is it like in terms of like. I just love it.

I just looked at the- You know, the male, female, and then you just- It's 90% female. It doesn't say straight or gay. I would love to know the sexuality. They should ask that. I know. It's definitely all gay. There's not one. If a straight guy comes up to me, I'm like, absolutely not. Like, I'm not talking to you ever because they don't know. Even if I saw you in the street and I was like, Trisha, hey. Absolutely not. I'd be like, no. You'd be like, get the fuck out of here. I was like, I thought we had a good time on the podcast. Oh, you? Yes, you have. That's what I was saying. Okay. Okay.

Okay, I just thought you meant in general if I saw you. Yeah, no, after you walk out that door, Ted, I'm never speaking to you again. You're dead to me. We were just talking about how it's hot in the city. I mean, I had to drive like a fucking hour to get here. Oh, thank you. I know it is so far. I'm like, did you tell them how far it is? Because it is like so far. It wasn't a bad drive. I mean, it was a little moment of traffic as it's fucking LA. So I'm in, you know. Are you a Tesla driver? I'm not. Wow. I drive a 2002 Toyota Tacoma. There's a whole...

my co-host does schlatt where he will he claims he claims that i have a he calls it a basketball football sized hole in the passenger side of my truck which i just don't like he just lied at one point and now everyone is like will always say like oh you get that where's that basketball sized hole why did he just lie i love a liar but why did he just do that out of nowhere because it's fun you know it's fun to lie i love schlatt we should get him on here if he's a liar i love people who

A lot of people just lie for no reason. He doesn't – you know, he doesn't travel. Okay, no Schlatt for that. I just love the name. What is that? Is that Jewish? You know? I don't know. Well, it's his username. You know, that's what he goes by. His name's Schlatt? For real? That's his username. That's what it is. Oh, but you know people – Like he goes by Jay Schlatt online. But that's not his name. That sounds like a name. Like Jay Shetty. Well, his name is not publicized.

public information. Oh, got it. Yours is though, which is crazy. I looked you up to put you on the gate and I was like. I'm first and last, baby. I love it. You were not scared to like put it out there. Yeah, because it's one of those things where it's like, I don't know. And you're on LinkedIn and everything. I am on LinkedIn, yeah. I had to make that for college and I just never got rid of it. And then I started, I kept updating it.

I kept updating it because I had like my YouTube is like one of my jobs and then I it would always the subscriber count I would say that as like the piece I would be like has a running a YouTube channel that is amassed over this many subscribers I love saying that I love amassed and then another amassed is a great word wow you guys are so your intellectual side is coming out because he is smart he also graduated and has a journalist degree Cal State Northridge so around here in the valley so why is that a problem

Because it's not like one that most people would know. It's not like a UCLA or like, you know, you say Cal State Northridge, no one really knows. Yeah. The school I went to, Ithaca was like, in terms of film schools, was like maybe the, like,

It wasn't like in the top 10 film schools. It sounds fancy though. It sounds so fancy. That's just the name of the town. What was it? Ithaca? Ithaca. Ithaca. Is it with an E? It's with an – it's I-T-H-A-C-A. It might sound fancy because it's in this – it's a college town. So it's the same town that Cornell is in.

Andy Bernard. He went there. Andy Bernard. From The Office. He was in Acapella Group. He was in Acapella as well, yeah. And Sweeney Todd. Maybe it's Emerson, I'm thinking. A lot of people go to Emerson from Boston, right? Yeah, that's in Boston, yeah. Okay, that's what I'm thinking. I think I got waitlisted there. Wow.

Wow, really? Were you trying to direct? What were you trying to do in film school? I was trying to direct. I think – well, I was figuring it out. I wasn't sure if I wanted to be in the camera department or like – I knew I wanted to make films, but I was like kind of figuring out if it was camera department or directing. Because directing is a weird one because it's kind of vague on like how do you become a director, you know? Yeah.

Yeah, yeah, like start somewhere. Yeah, exactly. So for a while when I was in school, I worked at the like camera checkout like thing. Like they had cameras – the school had cameras that students could check out. So I worked at the camera checkout stuff. So I would like check equipment and stuff. And then I did – in like 2018, I did an internship out here in LA where I worked at like a camera –

like a cinema camera house or what was it called? You guys aren't going to know this. It sounds cool. Yeah, it's where I would like, you know, help build camera setups and stuff and yeah, just work with equipment and all that.

But you never worked on a set or anything like a yeah music videos like recently or in school? I Yeah, no like I worked on because that's how you get experience like you work on your friends sets and you know a lot of like the actual learning process at least in film school other than like the theory stuff you would learn in classes and like the information you'd learn from like professors and stuff I felt like a lot you learned like just going out and actually like working on sets and stuff. So have we met before?

I see familiar. Now that you're saying all this, like, have we met? We met right now, but I'm saying before this. Like when? What are you talking about? Like on a music video or something. Have we ever met? I've...

You look so familiar. Now that you're saying all this, I'm like, wait, were you unloading and offloading the cameras on my music video? No, no, I wasn't straight up. I never got to the point where I was straight up. Like when I graduated, I was already a YouTuber. Oh, okay. You look like all those people. Not all those people. I kind of look like every white guy, though, is the thing. I look like the most normal white dude that, like,

That was weird. I had like deja vu for a minute. That's what Hassan will always tell me. He'll always be like, you look like you're just like some white guy that goes to Harvard. Definitely that. Like it looks like I should be wearing – like if you saw me in like Sperry's and all nautical vineyard vines and all that, you'd be like, I'm not surprised. Yeah.

Because in high school I did used to wear that kind of – Did you wear vineyard vines? It's everything with the whale on it. Yeah, that's where my family would occasionally vacation every couple of years. We'd like rent a house for like a week in Martha's Vineyard. Oh my gosh. That's what I'm saying. Your nepo baby vibes because I'm like what? Well, okay. Who vacations there? You know, I grew up – I would say I grew up – Middle class. Yeah. Upper middle. Well, I would say mid-middle class. I wouldn't say upper middle because upper middle is like McMansions I feel like. You weren't in a McMansion. Yeah. No. It was like a –

Well, it was like a three-bedroom house. We had a basement, which was cool. It was half finished though. One side was finished where all the – that was where the hangout zone is and the other side was like the laundry area. It's scary. Where it was like the – like where my dad had his workshop and like it's still like that. I still – my parents are still in the house I grew up in. Wow. Which is cool because I get to go back there. But in Massachusetts, it's like –

when it comes to like, if you're trying to vacation, a lot of families will go to like the Cape, the Cape Cod. And then some families go to Martha's Vineyard. Like we, I'll tell you what would be really bougie if my family had a house on the vineyard. Oh yeah. Because they are prohibitively expensive. They're like, we're talking fucking 10 million. Oh my God.

Oh my God, really? There's like 10, $15 million houses there. Like I would say the floor for a house on the vineyard is like, for like a one bedroom shack is like a million dollars. That's wild. That's like not worth it at all. That's crazy. That's one of my goals though. To have a shack there? That's one of my manifests. Yeah. Why'd you get it? That's, well, I really want to do a thing where like if I were to accrue a lot of wealth

I would want to get a large house on the vineyard that could be because when I was growing up one of the things that my grandmother would do is she was like She's kind of badass for this. She You know gold generation. They obviously made a shit ton of money, you know peak American time to make money, right? So they had they so she had money to spend but she wasn't like about having like a whole inheritance inheritance now

inheritance thing. So she would do a thing where she had these whole family reunion things every couple years or something like that where she'd get a whole big house that has a bunch of rooms and then the whole family stays in those for like a week. Like, I'm like, I don't know, in the Outer Banks or something in North Carolina or like on the Jersey Shore. So her whole thing was like, I'm gonna spend all this money before I die because like, might as well, right? Yeah. I don't get the whole like,

in a state like trust to move on to the next family. Like I don't got that much foresight. Well I guess she has a house. I want to have fun. I want to have fun while I'm here. Well someone will get the house. You can't take it with you. I agree. I agree with that. Yeah. Spend it all. Like I don't know what's coming next. Like I might as well spend my cash. Run that credit score down. Awesome.

All the way down to zero. You build it up and then you bring it back down. Yeah. No, there's nothing wrong with it. Yeah. And get a bunch of loans too that don't disappear when you die too. Give your kids a bunch of calls from collections. You have to be like, this person is dead. They can't pay. They're canceled. And they still call people even after you're dead. Yeah, they do. I was reading about that. It's wild. I was like, that's insane. But the manifesting is that I would really want to be able to buy –

a house on the vineyard that has like a bunch of spots that like for my larger extended family like they could they could like I don't know maybe in these in some off months I could try to rent it or something so it's not like crazy but like I don't know just a place that like

the fam can all meet up and vacation, especially because I live across the country now, like from where most of my family lives. That's so Emmett coded of you from Legally Blonde. Do you remember the song, Chip on Your Shoulder? He's like, and I'm going to buy my mom that big, great house out on the beach. Got a chip on my shoulder. And it's big as a boulder. With the chance I've been given, I'm going to be driven as hell. I'm so close I can taste it. So I'm not going to waste it. Yeah, there's a chip on my shoulder.

On my shoulder. You might want to get one as well. Wow, thank you. I was stumbling through that. That was so exciting. I love that you know that and you weren't even in Emmett. You just know the song. Oh, because when you hear it a thousand times when you're doing the musical. I love it. Yeah, and he talks about buying a house on the creek. So it's kind of Emmett vibes. Yeah. So you're a good encyclopedia of theater knowledge. Oh, yeah. Musical theater, absolutely. Did you see the...

Have you seen Beetlejuice? Because it's in town right now. We were just there opening night on Tuesday. We were just there. How was it? Was it good? Well, I've seen it a thousand times. My friend Charlie went to go see it. Charlie? Who's Charlie? Charlie Simsicle. Is it an influencer? Yeah. Was he at the influencer event? I don't think he was. Okay. There was an influencer event that Cypress Storm invited everyone. He went on the 17th.

So, yesterday? The 16th was opening night. Oh, really? Yeah, Tuesday. We went backstage. It was a whole... They DM'd you actually trying to get a hold of me. They DM'd me? Yeah, one of the cast members was trying to get an Oscar. I wish I had these fucking Beetlejuice people talking to me about this. Have you seen it? No, I haven't. That's why I would want to see it, but I didn't even know it was coming to town. For two weeks. Go see it. I'm going to fucking Australia until the 6th of May, but...

Damn. Yeah, no, and I'd seen clips on TikTok from the original cast with the guy with the- Alex Bretman. Yeah, who was on the Has Been Hotel show, if you guys have seen that. Oh, yeah. That's really popular right now. Who else is in it? His voice is so unique that when I heard him in the trailers, I was like, that's the guy from Beetlejuice. Someone else do another theater person's in Has Been. Who was it? Oh, he plays-

Emmett. Oh, Christian Borle. Yeah. Oh my – that Christian Borle is the original Ethan Slater. He's like the straight man tenor. He had an affair with Laura Belbondy during The Great Blonde. He's like the TV guy. He's like a TV guy. He does good men too. He did Smash. He was on the eBay commercials. I think there's a bunch of folks on that. There's the guy who voices the – like he's like a very, very unique voice as well, voices someone on the Has Been Hotel show. He's like –

Have you guys seen Rick and Morty? I don't know if that's something. That's definitely not in our vibe. Probably not. I don't know. That's why I was like, I had already given up by the time I was asking the question. I was like, that sounds...

I don't know. Keith David, I think is his name, is a very low voice and it's a very recognizable voice, but it's the voice of the president of the United States in American Morty, but he also does a bunch of stuff and it's like, if you heard it, you'd be like, oh, I think I recognize it from somewhere. Why aren't you voice acting? Yeah, you would slay. That's a great question, honestly. You would slay. I probably should try.

try. You need to do that because when I started like diving into you and hearing you on podcasts, I'm like, your voice sounds almost fake. It's almost like, it's very Seth Mufarlan vibes. It's very just like, is this real? Like. Yeah, I've been, I've been, yeah. It sounds just like him. That's why I was like, you need to. Are you sure you're not thinking of Patrick Warburton? I don't know who that is. So no, definitely not. Hey Peter, I'm a paraplegic. Oh yeah. Yeah. Family guy vibes. Or a.

The poison for Cusco. Cusco's poison. Wait, is that the same person? Patrick Warburton. Wow. You sound like all those cartoons. Yeah, you would slay at that. I would slay. Yeah, you would slay. Would I perhaps serve? You would eat. Yeah, you would serve and you would eat. Spill all of it. Yeah. Eat for sure. Eat's the new one. I would eat. I would consume. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Consume all day. I mean, you're already eating. That's your job. But you could eat some more with the...

Hell yeah. That's everything. Oh my God, I love that. Yeah, no, voice acting is definitely where you should be for sure because like your voice is just so like unique to it. Thank you. And damn, I wish you could go see Beetlejuice now. That makes me like so sad. It's such a good, our dining room is Beetlejuice. We did, we recreated the whole dining room of Beetlejuice upstairs. Really? Yeah. Can I see it after the bar? Yeah, absolutely. He built the stone tables and the rabbit fur chairs. Really? Yeah. Oh, the big sculptures we have up there. Yeah. That's cool.

We're Beetlejuice. When he met me, my bedroom was Beetlejuice Broadway themed. I had the Beetlejuice sign. I spent over $100,000 remaking Beetlejuice music videos from the Broadway play. $100,000? For like one video. I did Say My Name where I played all the parts. And it was so complicated because you know you have to have – So did you get a whole crew for this too? Yes. That's why I was like, did we meet? Because I have like 60 crew people on my music videos. Oh.

I've directed music videos. That's what I thought because I saw that in the notes. I was like, wait, I thought you directed music videos. I've directed three music videos. I did one for James Marriott and I did two for a band called Lovejoy. Oh my gosh. And I've been talking to other folks potentially of doing music videos for them too. Oh my God, you undirected music videos? Where are we going to do a song? You and Tana are doing a song. Oh yeah, me and Tana are doing a song. You can direct it. What is the song? It's called Good Girls. It's a work in progress right now.

We're rebranding to Good Girls. Can you sing it? Well, we're making it up as we go. It's an improv song? We are good girls. We wear our hair back. No, we wear our hair up. And then what else did you have? And we just made it up as we go. I forgot the words. But it's like, we're no longer problematic because

we have boyfriends and we have implants but we're super smart I mean that's an improv line right there yeah and we did only fans but we made a lot so F you we're the good girls so we don't say F yeah that's part of it but it's a work in progress yeah

Anyways, if you want to direct it. If you want to come up with some treatments or something. Yeah. Yeah. I've done, I think, 75 music videos. You've done 75 music videos? That I've produced. We used to do them like universal. I used to spend so much money. I spent over $10 million doing music videos in my YouTube career, which is stupid. That's a crazy amount of just like cash? Yeah. Mm-hmm. Okay. But I was broke when I met him. So-

She's been calling me bougie the whole time. Calling me bougie this whole time. Just rolled up to this fucking compound from fucking Hollywood. I drove up here in my 2002 Toyota Tacoma and she's calling me bougie for having a credit score of a 500. But you probably had money in the bank. I was going to zero dollars. I'd make like $300,000 a month and be zero. Actually, it was for the first time like really within the last six months that I started actually investing. In what? In general. Just like stocks? Yeah.

I got a financial advisor. Wow. That's smart. Yeah, because I just kind of didn't – I feel like I'm ahead of the game because I'm 26. Oh, for sure. You have a good credit score. You're saving money. It's actually – it's crazy when I think back at like what – because I didn't really know what my plan was when I – if I didn't end up doing this, like the YouTube stuff. Because I was getting out of school. It was like – I did my last semester of school in COVID. Oh, wow.

Wow. So I actually didn't make a thesis film. Like when you go to this school, one of the things you do at the end is you do – it's kind of like your capstone. And you like really kind of lock in and try to make something good that's impressive that maybe you can submit to film festivals or something. And then, you know, it was one of those things where YouTube was already working out. So I was like, this is probably what I'm going to do when I get out there. So it wasn't like – I wasn't that worried about it. It was a little disappointing because we even went to New York to –

do auditions and one of the people that auditioned for one of the main leads of this script that I had wrote was someone who was playing Elder Cunningham in the Book of Mormon at the time. What was his name?

JJ? I don't know. JJ Neiman is like popping off now. But he was great. This was back – I mean this was back in 2020. Yeah. So – He might have been then. He was great. He did a great job and I was like that's who I would have had the guy who was playing all day coming in. It was like the – yeah. No, but I didn't – I don't know what I would have been doing if I didn't come out here. You didn't have a plan. My – well, I'll tell you what my plan was. My plan was to –

go home and then try to save up $10,000 and then move to LA. I was going to come out to LA no matter what. Did you do that? Did you save up the 10K? No, I just moved right out here because I was making YouTube money, baby. Oh, I see. So you're like, I passed that. So I was like, let me just go out. Yeah, no, I had more than 10K at the bank at the time. Wow. That's so impressive actually. Because I was at like, I think maybe I was at like 500K when I moved out to LA, like on YouTube. Oh, I was trying to money in your account. I was like, damn. No, no. I never had 500K in my account. That's crazy. I don't even have 500K in my account. Investments you might though. No. No.

Not yet. I feel like you do. Guys always have money saved. No, I do not. I'm telling you the truth. I'm telling you the truth. Are you just saying that so girls don't come after you like gold diggers? No. Like I have no money. They always say that. Oh, I'm not going to tell you the specific amount of money, but I can tell you that it's not more than $500,000. It's not more than $500,000. Yeah, it's $499,999. Well, it's always

- I think it's those people who say they don't have money that do, you know? Like when I met my husband and stuff, he acted like he had no money and then he had more money than me in his savings and I was like, okay, they're sneaky, you know what I mean? They don't want you to know 'cause they don't want you to whatever. - But I have a theory about money. - What is it? - And you can tell me if I'm right or wrong at this. I think that when it comes to stuff like money and fame in general, like stuff like that,

I think that those things make people more of the person than they already are. So if you're a greedy person and you make a shit ton more money and you get more of that thing, you're going to become a, it's like a multiplier of a personality type. You become more of a greedy person when you get more money, which sounds like it should make sense, but then like it ends up being the

case. They're even greedier. But on the flip side, when you're a really generous person like myself, I give money to every single person. It's like when you're really – you just keep giving out more money. But that's where we're going the manifestation route is like the more you give out, the more you give back because I would just be giving money all day long to everybody and then like I keep getting it back like times 20. Have you ever found that result? I mean I imagine this might – do people take advantage of you because of that? Definitely that. Yeah, like every single person I've always just paid for like their kid's school, like everything. I'm just like for sure. Oh my god.

But I'm telling you, it works because it always comes back times 20. I just give, give, give. It's like...

I love giving money. I love spending money. I love all of it. It always comes back. But I have seen it where it's like greedy. You work with people who make a lot of money and they just try to keep it all to themselves and they're greedy. It usually bites them in the butt, their downfall. You know what I mean? Yeah. And also it doesn't make them happy. Those kind of people, if you're a miserable person, the money kind of just amplifies you being miserable. You know what I mean? As opposed to if you're really happy, the money just makes you happier. So it can go both ways and I've seen both. But I feel that's real. It's also not real if you think about money. When you sell someone, it's not real. It's just all like –

What is it? Electronic numbers? Is this like – are we talking about girl math right now? Is that what's going on? Oh, you know about girl math? Yeah, there's girl math. Girl math? Yeah, I know about girl math. If you sell, it doesn't – it's not money. Getting a refund from DoorDash or something like that? Tee. Tee is sponsored by DoorDash. What's like the most shameless refund situation you guys have done? Because I'll tell you what mine was. What's that mean, shameless refund? Okay. I wasn't making a lot of money in college.

I did a thing one time where I was like crashing out of a buddy's house and we were both really drunk and I fell asleep on the couch, but I'd ordered pizza. I fell asleep. The pizza came and then it was like a thing where I don't think the pizza was there, but I had like a million calls on my phone. They tried to deliver. I think so. They tried to deliver, but then it was just like I wasn't answering the door. No one was awake. It was like three in the morning.

But that's your fault. It is. Okay. But I did the refund thing where I was like, they didn't show up. And then I – No. And thinking – and I remember that because I think back on it and I'm like, I really hope that that wasn't something that hurt the person who delivered the pizza because if that was the case, I would feel really, really bad about that. But it was more like a thing where I was –

I don't know. That's bad. Was it the Domino's or was it a local pizza chain? It's Domino's. Domino's is doing fine. We love Domino's. The only way it would have been bad is if that reflected badly on the person making minimum wage delivering the pizza. That's what I got worried about. What did you do to make it right? What did I do to make it right? You said you were worried about it. I prayed.

But you're agnostic, so you need a brain too. No, no. And then when nothing got better, that's been when I became. You're like,

No, it probably doesn't get better because that's that karma coming back to you. It's just like, okay, you got to reap this for a minute. I never get refunds. I never return anything. I never exchange. I just keep it. So I'm kind of bad like that too sometimes. But I try to be better about it. Yeah. Sometimes if I order something, yeah, I'll have a hard time returning it. But that's more the ADHD of going to the post office. You both have ADHD. This was one of our notes was to ask you why ADHD. Well, not why. Why?

Why when you were setting up your little character here did you decide to go with that ADHD route? Was it your PR agent that told you that? Because it's a prominent, reoccurring thing about you. Your car. It is your brand. The milk. The ADHD. I guess I'm just open about it. You know? I wouldn't say it's my problem.

I think so. That's your platform. I don't want to be a spokesperson for people with ADHD. I think you are. But I don't understand it enough to be that. You understand it more than me. Yeah, he has ADHD, so he looks up to you. You're like an ADHD role model. That's just because I'm taller than you.

It's just I'm taller than you. You guys are the same. I don't know. Have you related to the stuff that I talk about? Yeah. Especially because I'm also editing and stuff too. When you talk about it, I'm like, clock the T for sure. I got stuck in a – sometimes I get stuck in a black hole of dopamine. That's good. No.

Dopamine's happy, right? No, it's more like – I should rephrase that. I got stuck in a black hole of seeking dopamine the other day where I've been trying to work on a video that I can have like kind of finished before I fly, like filmed at least so I can edit it while I'm on the go. And I got stuck for a full day this week just playing Fallout 76 all day.

Is that a game? It's a video game, yeah. Have we played it? No, but Kyle MacLachlan is in the show. There's a show about it? I watched the show and then I was like, I got to play the game. And that's also another dopamine hole I fell into. I watched the whole show. What's it on? I watched the whole show from like 10 p.m. until like 6 in the morning. And now I'm like, now my whole sleep schedule is knocked off. Well, I'm like, okay, well, now I got to stay up.

So then I did an all-nighter accidentally. Oh, my God. I got to watch it. Is it good? It must be good, huh? It is really good, yeah. It is good. It is good. But, I mean, it wasn't good enough for me to do that to myself. Like, but it is really good. It's really good. I got to watch it. It's based on a video game or are the video games based on the show? It's based on a video game. Honestly, if you watch the Fallout show as someone who has not played Fallout, it's going to be crazy for you. Really? You're going to be so – well –

Like not confused in a bad way, but like confused in like the lore is wild. Yeah. Like you're going to be like, what? But do you want me to give you a short explanation of what it is? I'd love a spoiler if you want to give it to me. I will give you the – I love a spoiler. I will give you like a spoiler for like the actual show. Her context, she loves Kyle MacLachlan. Do you know him? He's the – The dad. So he's – oh, okay. He's not the ghoul? No, no, no. He's the original guy in Dune and he's been in Showgirls.

He was the original actor in the original movie of Dune? Yeah. He was the original Timothee Chalamet. Yeah. We're deep in the Kyle MacLachlan lore here. Desperate Housewives of the Flintstones. Oh, so they de-aged him in a weird way. His neck was too thick. He was a twink in that movie. He was a twink. He was, yeah. Original twink. That's crazy. No, I'm making the connection now because way back in the day when I was a kid, my dad showed me the Dune movie and I remember it being incredibly boring and weird. It is. Especially the part with the floating guy. Yeah.

That's really weird. The floating guy is so weird in the original movie. That movie is crazy. We tried to watch it. I like fell asleep. But I love him. Yeah. No, but I didn't know what – he just kind of seemed like a guy that looked like maybe he was the son of one of the Beatles like in the original Dune. Like I didn't really know who he was. He's a famous actor. He was in the Doors movie. He's been in like so many things. He's huge. Yeah. That's crazy. You look like him kind of. No, don't say that.

Yeah, you have the same vibe because he has such a strong jaw. I gotta add, he kind of looked like Coconut Head from Ned Seuss Classified in the original Dune movie. I never watched it. Yeah, he looked like Coconut Head.

I've never heard of that character. Put it up on screen. Put it up on screen since you're editing the podcast right now. The coconut head and the clockwork. Yeah, put them right next to each other. The ghoul I heard is like everyone's saying he's hot. I think, did you edit that clip on TikTok? Yeah. The Entertainment Tonight one? They're like, oh, the ghoul's like sexy or something. I don't know. I don't know anything about this. I mean, he's got provider energy. Let's be honest here. Provider? Like money? No, it'd be like this. Imagine I'm wearing a cowboy hat. I'm going to take care of you, darling.

Ooh. Right? Yeah. That was giving, that was kind of giving like Leonardo DiCaprio in Once Upon a Time in Hollywood. You were giving like Western, like I like in the 1960s. Oh yeah, no, he is Western because he was a, the ghoul is a guy who, let me give you the breakdown. I want to hear it. So the first,

Fallout, as a whole series, is basically an alternative history sort of story. And the lore behind it is about how in the 1940s, there's a split in the timeline from our universe where the microtransistor was not invented. The microtransistor lets you make electronics smaller and better. So you know in the 1950s where you've got those big vacuum tube TVs? Yeah.

1950s aesthetic. Okay. Back in two. Like the big fucking TVs with like the spherical looking screens and stuff. Oh, yeah, sure. And like the big cars and all that. So in this universe, all the way into the future, like into the 2000s, shit still looks like it's from the 1950s because of that.

Because of a small technological change, everything looks like it's from the 1950s. Back to the future vibes. Well, that's the 80s. Oh, wait. No, it is the 50s too. You're right. 80s into the 50s. Yeah. Okay. The whole crux of everything is like there's a – it's like Cold War vibes as well. You know the Cold War? Definitely not. We didn't learn about the crusade. We didn't learn about the crusade even. You don't know about the Cold War? When did the Cold War – do you know about the Cold War? Really? Really?

I did not know history either. I'm telling you, I'm from Illinois. They didn't teach us history or math or anything. I know, but like that's like – The Cold War. That's not like the Children's Crusade. Children's Crusade is niche. Like we're talking like – What year are we talking? We're talking – I mean the Cold War lasted a while. I mean it was pretty much like –

Kind of like from the end of World War II until like the 90s when the Soviet Union collapsed. Who won the Cold War? You tell me. We did, dude. We fucking won that shit big time, dude. We won that shit big time, dude. All right. Good for us, I guess. No, the Cold War was, you know, the Cuban Missile Crisis. Cuban Missile Crisis? No. You heard of that? I don't ever watch TV. Bay of Pigs? No. Bay of Pigs.

I know 9-11. The space race. No. What? Do you know space race? No. He doesn't know space race. No one knows space race. You do? You don't know about the space race? Well, let me just say this. It resulted in us landing on the moon? Oh, but we think that's a hoax. Here at Just Trish, we talk about this. We think that. That's not real. You know that it's not real. We talked about that. It was a hot topic. We haven't confirmed that it's real, that it is a hoax. Look it up. Anyway.

I don't believe it. Okay. No. Hold on. Let me just calm down. Wait. Can I just readjust my seat here? I just got to – I just don't – it's a whole thing. It's a whole controversy. No, no. I want to hear about it. I do. I do. Just space is so – it's just a lot. Space is a lot. You're right. It's actually everything. Yeah. It's literally infinite. Right? Well, there – Yeah. Right? Yeah.

- Like when the world ends. - It's expanding, but you know, there's a-- - When we all die, the world ends, what happens? Is space still around? Was space here before the first man was here? - Yes. - Yeah. - Right? - Yeah. - Yeah. - Yes. Space was here before the first man was here. - Really? - Yeah. - So we all came from a big boom. - The big bang, yeah. - The big bang, yeah. - The big bang.

- I don't believe it. - You don't believe, well, if you look up into the sky, you can see the stars. - I just, right, but okay, we're all gone. And then what, does space exist by itself? - So do you think that existence is tethered to the human experience? - Absolutely, isn't that what existence is, humans? - Well, the existence as we know it is, yeah, I suppose, hmm. - Oh, she got you. - No, wait, repeat the thing so I can. - Isn't that what existence is, like humans? We're existing as humans, that's existence. What else would be existence?

Well, wouldn't you say that that's a bit egocentric? I would say that's just realistic. Well, you see a dog. Is that dog's existence tied to our existence?

That dog experiences feelings. Yeah. Well, that's what I'm saying. When it's all over, everyone's gone, even the cockroaches. Everything's gone. There's nothing that exists anymore, so exists. Well, how do you know? Cease to exist. That's what I'm asking. So is there space still around? Yeah, space would still be around, but there's a – we're going to get into entropy now. I know. I got all the science about that. We're going to get into the notion of entropy right now. Eventually, technically –

Billions and billions, trillions, even more than trillions, like whatever, quintillions or something like that of years into the future, eventually every single star will run out of energy and it will just be a void of darkness, which is really unfortunate. Then nothing exists. Yeah. We don't really know what's going to happen after that. There's a lot of theories. It's like, but.

But in terms of objective stuff that I can say that isn't in the realm of like what is existence, I can tell you with a pretty solid level of confidence that we did in fact land on the moon. How do you know? How do you – It says it's staged. Remember we talked about this. It said it was staged. How do you know for sure? Were you there? No, I wasn't there. But –

If you deny the very basis of objective evidence that is provided in a society, aren't you – then doesn't that just take rid of – gets rid of the foundation of everything else you know? I don't think so. OK. Because then the government just brainwashes everyone to think whatever. Then you're like, oh, we just – there's enough evidence because the government told us. But how do you know the moon landing did not happen? Well, there's just –

Well, there's just like – there's been stagings of it, how people say like, oh, this was staged and this is Photoshopped and this is whatever. It's like it's not real. Like there was never someone on the moon. It was all like staged theatrics. I don't know. I don't know for sure. This is a legend. But at the end of the space race, like the Soviets were already like out of money. I don't know.

I don't even know what the Soviets are. No, literally nothing. This is where it gets complicated. The Russians. Why do you want the Soviets? The Soviets were like, it's not the same country really as it was back then. Like it's the Russian Federation now, I think is what it's called. So you can't hear Moses, but he's saying, no, no, that's exactly what it is. NASA's deleted. So what's your opinion? Do you think we landed on the moon or no? Not the first time. Moses is agreeing with me, not the first time. Yeah. So the...

Because, you know, that's my thing. So what about, like, the footage of, like, the rovers and stuff? And, like, you can see physical dust on film. NASA deleted the footage of the original moon. Interesting. And how do we know that to be true? Well, that's, like, how do you know that? You know what I'm saying? Like, that's what people say. Well, no, that's why I'm asking. Like, if we also don't know that, that's why I'm kind of like. Statement from NASA, he said. I know, but it's a statement from NASA that we got rid of it. But it's also a statement from NASA that we f***ed.

landed on the moon. Well, there you go. So my question is, why are we accepting this as being like, that makes it so, like, you can't accept a portion of the information from NASA, but then also deny another piece of information from NASA. Right, but that's like you then, too. So this is coming from NASA. We deleted the footage. And then you're also like, no, but it happened. No, I know. The reason why I'm bringing that up, because I'm flipping it, because I'm

I'm trying to illustrate a point. How is it all deleted though? Right? Like sus. Like it's just sus. Like it's okay. It's all deleted. Like what? Like the first landing on the moon, you're like, oops, deleted. Like what? There has to be more to it.

Like you don't just accidentally delete something. Like your Barbie footage, you want it to be like, I lost all the footage. Oops, I did that. That worked. I did delete the footage because it was taking up too much space. But you uploaded it somewhere. There's an archive of it. You know what I mean? Anyways. Okay, that's so interesting though. Okay, so agree to disagree on the moon landing for now.

Okay. We'll have to ask Elon Musk when he comes on. He's scheduled to come on soon. Is he really? Yeah. DM'd him. Oh, so you're manifesting. It's currently in the manifestation oven. You're taking us one step closer there because I love talking to intellectual people and like, you know. Do you think that we put the rover on Mars? I don't know what the rover is.

You don't know what it is? No. What? It's a robot. Kind of. It's like a little thing that – It's like a little car. It's like a remote control car. Yeah. A little car with some like stuff you can control. So what – okay. But that's not a person. Like what, a rover – a robot up in the moon? Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. We put a rover on there. Okay. Yeah.

But a person hasn't been on Mars. Right. Right? No. No, no one's been on Mars. That'd be cool if that happens. You could go. Yeah. Oh, my God. It's getting so complicated. We were talking about how McLaughlin came to this. So the Fallout series is about a Cold War that's happening, not between Russia and...

And the United States, but with the United States and China in like the 2050s onward kind of thing. And it's like a whole resource war. Whatever the case, you know, the story of Fallout is talking about, you know, before the war and like then after the war and like the wasteland that occurs from that nuclear war. And like the stories of like people on their wasteland and like the vault dwellers and stuff like that. Yeah.

There's a lot to it. It's very complicated. I don't want to watch that movie anymore. I changed my mind on it. But it's honestly, it's funny. It's like... This is how you have to sell it to her. The costumes are like really cute. Oh, wait, wait. Actually, yeah. Wait, wait. I'm calling them a tautness. You're right. I've been going around this the wrong way. That was wild. What you just said right now. I was like, what? Ready for this? Okay. We got cute girls.

In Cool Suits, we got guns, shooting guns. Okay. We've got robots, big robots. There's, what else? There's a hot zombie guy. Okay. And he doesn't have a nose, but that doesn't take away from how hot he is. Yeah. A hot dad. We know that. And there is, what else is there? I'm trying to remember the show right. There's some bad music, like, ooh.

Oh, yeah. There's a lot of good music. A lot of doo-wopping. A lot of doo-wopping. I love a 50s vibe. In spots. Like the in spot tests? No, the band.

I thought it was like the one where he's like, what do you see in the ink? I don't know. I don't know. Okay, I'm sold. Did you see it? Yeah. Oh, you didn't tell them about this. How was my second explanation? Better, yeah. I'm really into fucking lore shit. Like, I know all the Halo lore, too. Like, I know too much lore stuff. I always end up in, because I was ADC, I always end up in the Wikipedia, and I'm just like, I was, you know what I was doing last night? I was reading the lore on the Matrix last night on Wikipedia. Yeah.

Like I was like, how did this war between the robots and the humans start? And I got onto the Matrix Wikipedia and I was reading that for like 45 minutes. But you know that's not real. Oh no, that's real. Why are you reading into a fake lore then? Oh, because it's all history. Because it's all history. Everything is real.

Everything is real. You're from the perspective everything's not real. Everything's not real. I believe everything is real. You think the Matrix is a possibility? Santa Claus, Easter Bunny, real guys. Well, they were for sure, St. Nicholas. Oh, yeah, and Easter Bunny. Yeah.

I wish it was real. That was a crazy name, too. Easter Bunny. Well, it's easy. It's Easter and a bunny. Very simple. When did you learn that Santa Claus was allegedly not real? Yeah, oh my gosh. If your children are watching, turn them away. Oh, yeah. Do we have people? Children watching. Yeah, their children. Guys, stop.

If this – yeah, this is hypothetical. Yeah. You know, I don't even know if I remember like knowing he's not real. Like I just always – I always felt like I knew it that he wasn't real. Like I knew it as a kid. Like you just know. Yeah. I think there's definitely a difference across the board of how certain – I think some people it's like a pretty calm revelation and then for some people it's like traumatic. That's great.

That's crazy to me. What about you? It wasn't traumatic for me, but I remember I put out cookies and they were like wrapped in like a plastic and I like marked them small in the back of the wrapper as like a test to try and catch them to see if it was real or not. And then I found the wrapped cookies back in like the bin where I got them from. So my parents just put them back in the bin. Wait, so they didn't even take – wait, so you're telling me your parents put out cookies and they didn't even take off?

bite no they just put it back in the tin yeah and then I went to the tin and they were marked isn't the whole point of like putting the cookies out so that like so you come downstairs and you're like and you're like and there's like a comically like there's like one bite taken out of it

They just put him back there. As if he's in a hurry. I mean, I guess he is, but yeah. My parents are immigrants, and I think they just didn't care. I think it was just like, you know. They didn't know the Santa Claus lore. Yeah, the lore. They knew the surface of it. It's like, I guess you're supposed to put some cookies on it, like a display. And the plastic cookies at that. You didn't even bake them, like home-baked cookies at Christmas time. Yeah, they were just pre-made from a tin, and then they just put them back in the tin. If you think about it, I've been thinking about this recently. I feel like the...

For the holidays, at least if you were raised Christian or Catholic or whatever, there's a lot of like...

mythology that isn't even really related to the religion. Like, there is, you've got Santa Claus, then you've got the Easter Bunny, and I think, I remember growing up, one of the more confusing things for me was, I don't know, did you guys ever notice that some kids, like, growing up, some kids would get, like, gifts for Easter? Oh, I got gifts for Easter still. Yeah, yeah. What did you get for Easter? Easter baskets. Yeah, no, the baskets. Yeah, no, that's what the bunny brings, but, like...

Kids were getting like items, like straight up. Did you get items? My mom gave me a toaster for Easter. You got a toaster? Yeah, she gave me a toaster. It's gifts. It's a gift season. So when I was a kid, that was probably what broke the camel's back, the whole mythology that I had going on here. Because they were essentially like gods to kids. Were they not? Wait, what? The bunnies? The bunnies, the Santys, you know? Santa Claus and the Easter bunny in the same way that, you know, gods.

God is now to some people. They were gods to us and they got results. Yeah, because they're like symbols of God, right? Like Jesus was risen from the dead on Easter. So the bunny simplifies that. I think, I mean, I guess Santa Claus was like supposed to be Saint Nick or Nicholas or whatever. But like in the child's perspective, they were gods.

And they actually, you prayed to them. You sent them letters. Right. And then on the same day every year, you would get results from prayer. Because you're celebrating. Which was crazy. Yeah. Because like Christmas is Jesus's birthday, so you get gifts from him.

Yeah. Like the three wives that bring you gifts. But Jesus wasn't around. That's like the family member everybody talks about, but he never shows up to the family gatherings. So is that the mythology of it? If you're agnostic, I guess, right? Well, yeah. Yeah, okay. But then what was most confusing for me was when it came to, like, I got what Santa was doing.

You know, I understood what was going on there. Like, I knew the lore. Like, he lives in the North Pole. He's got a collection of elves, and it's vague on whether or not they're paid, and they build all the toys. And he goes around the world, and you can track him because he's a Santa tracker, and he will bring the toys. And everyone talks about what presents they get and stuff like that.

Easter comes along I'm hearing that Oscar's getting a toaster from the Easter Bunny and I'm like did that mother f***er build that shit? Like you could go to a Walmart and there's displays of like they're selling like Easter themed bikes. Is the Easter Bunny building a bike? It's a bunny.

think you're thinking too deeply honestly I thought the elves built it I thought the elves like you know they got the Nintendo 64 and then gave it to me for Christmas no one's thinking they're building the Nintendo 64 in the Santa's workshop that's the whole thing no they're not that's the whole crux of the situation is he has a workshop and he builds the toys that's

That's the whole thing. No. Yes. No. Yes. You're thinking so much into it. Trisha, I can let things go on the moon landing ship, but I'm not going to let it go on Santa Claus. Okay? We'll have to dig deeper into this. I don't know. He is training. The elves are learning how to build circuitry. They're learning how to do woodworking. They're learning how to make trampolines. I don't know. They know it all, and they're building it, and that was how I understood things. But they're all – yeah. Yeah.

I just remember when a kid would get a bike for Easter and I'd be like, it's a rabbit. In general, dig too deep into things, right? Like the Barbie, watching all the Barbie movies before the movie, like just too deep. You know what I mean? Like you don't need all that. And I think that's what's happening here in general. And I think... See, that's crazy coming from someone who has a podcast whose episodes are three times as long as my podcast.

Talking about getting too deep into stuff. This podcast episode is going to be twice as long as my Barbie video. Exactly.

Well, the monetization, we have to hit it. Yeah, I don't know because we got to spend it. Over the next 10 years, I got another 10 million and you make a music video. Why are you not making five-hour podcasts? Because you talk more than anyone in the best way. Like, you are a gift of God. And you're entertaining. Thank you. You're like stand-up, like for three hours straight. Like, you could be doing so much. Well, what I just did there with the Easter Bunny thing was what I've been working on as a potential stand-up. It sounds like we're in a comedy show right now. Oh, it's so good.

It's amazing. You guys were the first people I tested on. That was a work in progress bit. It kind of crushes. Does it crush? Yeah, it crushes. I haven't worked it out yet. I was thinking about it on the drive over when I was just pacing out and I was like, maybe I should just test this out right here. Well, I'm glad it's a bit because I was just thinking like, I need to tell this person he's thinking too deep because if you're going on dates talking about this stuff, I'm like, this is all too much. I'm just kind of figuring it out.

it out, you know, because I really wanted, I've always wanted to do stand-up, but I'm terrified of it, and my plan is that I'm going to go to, like, in secret to, I mean, I guess I'm talking about it on a fucking podcast, but I'm going to go, like, I'm not actually going to, like, come out and be, like, one of those motherfucking YouTubers that are, like...

I'm not talking about anyone specifically. This is just as a general. Yeah, let's spill some tea. This is like, this is, I just need to say that. I'm not talking about anyone specifically. I don't even know anyone. Because I don't want anyone to get mad at me. But like, you know how like a lot of the time influencers are known for like coming out and being like, I'm going to release music. And they kind of. Tea talks.

And this is why I preface this. It's sometimes apparent that they actually haven't spent, you know, the several years that people usually take before they actually have the audience that that music that is initially released could get to. And I think the same thing kind of happens with like comedy and stuff because like the comic world is like it's terrifying to me. And like I would never want to just enter that as a fucking YouTuber that doesn't really know how to do a stand up shtick.

So I want to like for a little bit just do like open mics and I won't tell anyone. I'm just going to go to open mics by myself and actually try to get good before I like try to, you know. Sell tickets and stuff. Yeah, exactly. I'm not going to go on a fucking tour before I like actually got my sea legs. Why? People would love – because people just love you. So even if you weren't funny, which you are. There is the question.

crux of the issue. That's the difference in the philosophy. Wait, but that's what people need. So you have one audience, you know? I could go and sell a tour. Yeah. You want to be good. I don't think it would be right.

I think you like practice enough with your podcast. I think you like practice. I think it's out there. But I don't know. Like when I sit down and try to like think about doing stand-up, I'm like this is like – it's a whole – it feels like a whole different thing, you know? Definitely. I did do stand-up in a reality show. It was YouTubers trying to stand up and it was the worst thing ever. It was so hard. There's a whole video that you were a part of about how YouTubers – wait. Wait, I was a part of it?

What did I say? Did you just say you were part of a video called YouTubers Try Stand-Up? It was a reality show, yeah. Like Heather MacDonald. It was real comedians coaching you. On broadcast television? Yeah, it was. We did it at... On the television? On the television. I think we filmed at Laugh Factory. I think it was. It's a clip online. And it's just like they coach you into being a stand-up. And it was a bunch of YouTubers trying stand-up comedy. And it was like... How...

Did you do well? Awful. Awful. It was horrible. It was so bad. Like, it's actually so hard. But you have that gift where you can tell a story. Because it's all about telling stories and making people laugh. Like, I don't have that, like, natural funny ability, you know? You're pretty good at telling stories. I feel like you – No. Definitely not by myself. Like, if I'm, like, talking to someone, maybe. But, like, you can just go, go, go. And that's what stand-up is, right? I got a minor –

That's actually one of the things I got at Ithaca. I got a minor in yapology. Oh, I love that you know yapping. That's so trendy. Well, you're young, I guess. I just learned yapping. I'm a yapper. It's a new thing. Yapology. Gooning's pretty new, too. What is? Gooning. But yapology is definitely something that people say. He's got a degree in yapology. Oh, I didn't know that. I always heard like yapper. Yeah, like bro is yapping.

Okay. Have you heard the R-Rite Brother? Have you heard that one? What? No. What is that? Why do you say it so quiet? R-Rite Brothers or whatever. It's like a...

sketch, you know? I'm like second guessing my delivery of it right now. Alright, brother. Special teams, special plays. Wow. Oscar, you know? No, he doesn't know. This is across. I don't think the girls and the gays know about this. No, this one. Yeah, but you're kind of the bridge between straights and girls and gays. Am I really? Yeah. I am the bridge. I am the conduit. Yeah. He always says how funny you are and all that stuff like that. So it's like, okay, let me

Let me dig. And I was kind of like, I don't know about this person. And then I like dig. I was like, oh. Yeah, wait. Is there stuff that like – I realize we're reaching that three-hour mark here. Yeah. Literally. Is there anything that we were meant to talk about that we didn't? Because we were just chatting. I mean, we have literally so much. We didn't even talk about Chuckle Sandwich. We didn't talk about the Milkman. We can rattle them off real quick. We didn't talk about – I'll give you fat. Fan cams, thirst traps, genre you like to try. Well, I have to answer them first. I will go through them real quick. I'll give you real quick answers. Okay, okay, okay. Oh, well, you're –

Okay, that's the whole thing. You're not involved with TED Talks, right? No, no. That's not your thing at all. Nah, dude, no. I thought that was your thing. I was like, oh, that's interesting. TED Talks. Nah, that's my grandfather's thing. He started that. Okay, no TED Talks. Okay, and there's literally so much because there's like food. There's so – God, I don't know where to go. We have notes and notes and notes and notes. We have printed too. This one's printed. I handwrite mine. He prints his, so I handwrite him. We sell these on our Patreon if you want to get the handwritten notes back.

Join if you want. Yeah, yeah. Join the Patreon. So I guess we could do like rapid fire or whatever because I know there's a lot you wanted to ask too. Oh, yeah. I was asking you too much about being an otter. I'm sorry. I feel like that was the more important conversation to have though. It was. I learned a lot. Your conversation skills are 10 out of 10. You know, you go on a podcast and sometimes like people just answer – which you should just answer questions about yourself but you're so good at like conversation. You know what's the one thing though? I hope I wasn't interrupting too much. I have a little bit of a tendency to – Oh, you do it all the time. Yeah.

I'm constantly like, I just jump on people. This is a safe space for that.

you were talking. I was like, no, we definitely do it. Yeah, they made it especially ironic, but also helpful. I love it. No, but I don't know. I think that sometimes that's the one thing I have a problem with. I think that it was on several, our thing where we have people in person. We don't normally do in-person podcasts for Chuckle Sandwich. We'll do a week and we'll call it Chuckle Week. Wait, what do you mean a Chuckle Week? We just took the first name of the podcast and then added week to the end. But what is that? Okay, got it, got it, got it. Yeah, it was just like

It's just podcast recording week. We'll go and we'll rent out a space and then we'll get a bunch of guests on for a week. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. And we'll do it in bulk. We're doing that now because I'm having a baby next week. Next week? Literally. This is my last string of interviews. It's you, Pokimane, Dr. Drew.

Oh, wow. Oh, my God. But we have like 10 ready to go because I'm like, I don't know when I'm coming back. I'm going to come back. Are you excited? Yeah, I'm excited. But back to Chuckle Week. I'm very excited. The baby's coming out. It could happen today. I literally could feel it at any time, but it's wild. That'd be crazy. Trisha Paytas' water breaks in the 10 minutes episode of the Just Trish podcast. It would make sense because I'm laughing. But Chuckle Week, you would. Yeah. There were several episodes where I would get comments in the comment section where people would be like, Ted's interrupting way too much. And I'll see stuff like that.

And like, you know, normal hate or whatever. It's like whatever. But I'll see stuff like that and I'm like, ooh, that sounds like an actual like social issue that I have that I would need to work on. I think it's common. So I'm glad that I wasn't interrupting. No. No. Also, I like interrupting because it's like it keeps it going. Do you know what I mean? Like when there's like too much of a pause, it's just too much of a pause, you know? I love when people just jump in, next topic, boom, go.

I don't mind interrupting. I love it and I love when people do it to me because like, okay, next topic, let's go. - I feel like this podcast has just been sort of like a string of tangents. - Yeah, oh, it's chaotic. - But you were holding the cards. I saw you were holding the cards too, so it seemed like you were doing a good job of like having us flow. - Well, I was trying to and then I was like, we literally got so many places all the time and I'm like, wait, there's a flow I'm supposed to be following here, but it's fine.

It's fine. I like it when it's like that. I like a little chaos. You know what I mean? Because I do have it planned out how we're going to go, but I'm like, well. The cards are like a backup. It definitely is. Especially the ones you printed out. I was like, wow, these are a lot of talking points. Okay. Yeah, wait. I want to rapid fire some of these. You're going crazy. Okay, can I say. Don't make fun of him. No. First off, Oscar's the best. He's a journalist. You were getting ready to pounce just then. I could hear that. I was like, you're like, all right, listen to this motherfucker. Look at this nerd. He's got. No.

- Oscar is the brains. - I didn't hear the question. - Yeah, thank you. He's so smart. - Oh wait, actually, hold on, I take it back. What do we got here? - This is the brains. - Is it bad? - No, I'm gonna tell you the question he wanted me, 'cause if you wanna ask these questions too, 'cause I had my own, but he's definitely the brains. How I met Oscar was he was an interviewer for Entertainment Tonight. He interviewed me a bunch of times back in 2018. He's amazing at what he does. - Oh, and what is Entertainment Tonight? - The TV show. - The magazine. - Oh. - He liked it. - I am the Emmy winner, if that makes sense. - You have an Emmy? - For journalism. - Congratulations. - Thank you, thank you. - Yay! No, he's the smartest, so.

- Yeah, yeah, it's an Emmy, whatever, okay. - Yeah, the questions. - Back with me. - He gives me great questions, right? Like if I need help, he gives me great questions. And so there's this one, he's like, here's some questions you can ask. One of the, literally the top question was this like, what are the best things about being a cute straight guy? - Yeah. - I'm like, could you imagine-- - That's a good question. - What are the best things about being a cute straight guy? - If I asked that question, people would be like, wow, Trisha, you're married and pregnant, about to have a baby. Like, what are you asking this question? - Yeah, no, I understand that. That definitely makes more sense to come from Oscar.

Yeah, that's why I asked that question. What are the best things about being a cute, straight guy? I mean, you know... Or worse. Oh, the worst was on there? You know, it's just, you know, I'm at the helm of the patriarchy, really. I'm driving the ship. It does slay, I'm sure. It does slay and serve, really. It serves quite heavily. And...

Yeah, I don't know. I can't say slurs, so that's kind of a bummer. That's true. I can't say slurs and I can't reclaim anything. That's the worst part about it. ADHD isn't even enough to reclaim the R slur, so it's not even enough. Not disabled enough. I'd at least have to have autism in order to be able to do that. You could be on the spectrum. Everyone kind of is. I can see it. Yeah, that's what they say, but not enough for me to do any reclamation. Yeah.

- No, no, so that's a huge bummer. - The best part? - I guess I could get alone easily. - Take care of your cute. - I don't know what-- - I think you doing the Barbie movie, that's like hot because you're straight. - Oh, I guess I don't really think, like it's one of those, that's kind of the thing with privileges, you don't really kind of perceive them as deeply as those who don't. I mean, I guess I'm just perfect.

And you're tall, so no one's going to mess with you. You know what I mean? I'll tell you, if you added tall in there, I would have been like, can reach objects on shelves. I can see above everyone. I can identify someone in a crowd much easier. I don't know. Being tall is great, dude.

You're a great straight guy, too, because when we took the pictures, your hands were always to your side or out or something like that. I was like, oh, you know the straight guy pose. We were talking about this. Thumbs up is my go-to. Never put the arm around anybody. I did end up putting my arms around you guys. I think because we were. My hand was on your back and you're just like... I was gauging the comfort level. Isn't that great? That's good. That's what I'm saying. You're really the most well-rounded straight guy that we've known. I never touch the small of a woman's back when I pass her in a bar.

Do you not? No. That's good. Isn't that like specifically something that people say you shouldn't do? People do that all the time or the reach around like to the side or something like that. Yeah, so that's weird. Well, where are you going to put your hand? I don't know. I just put it on the back. No, but when you're passing – no, it's like the whole thing about like when guys pass a woman in the bar, they like straight up are like touching her to like get by. It's like just like an excuse. You remember this? No. It's like – I don't know. Like it's kind of just like a male excuse to do like just have a – get like just –

I don't know. It's a – there's an assumptuous physicality of doing that as like – that is perceived as like, I don't know, like shitty straight guy things. Yeah. Or just like don't touch me at all. But you're respectful. This is what I'm saying. I don't know. I know you don't share about your dating life and your not personal life but you're like respectful. You're smart. You know all the parts of a woman's body. I mean I think you're really like the ultimate catch. What a quote. You're respectful. You're smart and you know all the parts.

That's a good like dating app bio if you ever need one. Oh, I don't think it is actually. I think that's the one where like where if a woman saw that they'd be like, he's going to cut me up into a bunch of little tiny pieces and sell me on the dark web. But if you say Trisha Payne has said it, that will sell. The girls will be like, oh, safe space. I think they would add another layer of confusion. They would be like, all right, how is Trisha involved in this scenario? How did Trisha get mixed up in this?

I'm allowed. I endorse you for sure. Of all the straights, I would endorse you the most. You're one of the only ones we've had, and I know you. Yeah, what other straights have you had? None. Jeff. Oh, Jeff Wittek. But he was with Tana. Yeah, Jeff Wittek came with Tana. So it was kind of like it balanced out. Yeah, I couldn't be with him by myself. He can do a mean haircut. Have you got one by him? No, I haven't. Yeah. He's a great barber. And he's ripped. Yeah? Yeah. Well, that's why he was like very – almost like too –

like bro-y so he's too bro-y yeah dr drew is great but he's like a doctor you know so he's like is that that's who fought ian idubbz didn't or is that someone else doctor oh that was dr mike or something did you mind dr drew i was like wait what is dr drew he did like oh god you're too young it was like a tv like celebrity rehab yeah he did love line with adam carl which is like literally in the 90s you wouldn't remember but you guys are gonna hate me for this because i feel like the this is like one of the

one of the main food groups of the girls and the gays is I do not watch reality TV that often. I see that for you. Yeah. But it's definitely in the food period for the girls and the gays. I think you might need to take a break from like researching the Matrix and just watch like Love is Blind or something, you know? Honestly, I've seen a little bit of Love is Blind. Oh, there you go. And I had to leave the room

I either leave the room when that guy with the chompers like big teeth, you know this new season No, the one from last year with the guy at the crazy laugh and the big chompers he had blonde hair and he showed up on He had like a I don't know. I'll give you the context. He came into a room He was date. I think he was talking to Shayna a woman named. Yeah came into the room and it was another woman and he was like is it Shayna and it wasn't it was another girl and

that he was also talking to. And I was like, oh, no. The secondhand embarrassment was like burning the skin. I was like a vampire in the sun. It was awful. I had to leave the room. I love watching other people get embarrassed. I get embarrassed all the time and I love watching other people. That's why I can't really... I'm trying to get better at it. I need a little bit more. I think I need to do exposure therapy to it and I just need it. Because there's another aspect that people... Maybe I need to watch it with groups more because I feel like there's... It's almost like a... It's...

It's like a gay sporting event. I was going to say it, but I wasn't sure if I was allowed to make the joke. It's like sports for gays. Especially tonight. Tonight is the RuPaul's Drag Race finale. I'll tell you one thing, though, that bothers me about the gays. Oh, my God. This is actually not something that bothers me. This is something that bothers me tangentially about theater kids and sports. The whole time I was growing up, there was always this joke.

Almost serious thing that theater kids would do would be like pretend that they don't know sports like where they'd be like they'll be talking about like football be like

oh, they're playing football. Are they gonna get a home run? And it's like, shut the fuck up. They might not know. No, they do. Because it's built, it's like the foundation of our American society is knowing that football has fucking touchdowns. Baseball has home runs. We see this in movies. We see this everywhere. And just because you sit, just because you're in Mamma Mia Junior, you fucking don't know what a touchdown is? Are you kidding me? Oh, God. Well, yeah.

In all fairness, they may not know, okay? And the theater kid after parties were so, the theater kids are inherently so fucking horny that the after parties were a mess. It is crazy, yeah.

There was a whole sketch. But none of them were really, at least it might have been, no one was really having sex, though. It seems like they were. I wasn't part of it. I couldn't sing, so I don't know. No, just a lot of cuddling. That's what they said. Oh, that makes sense. Just a lot of cuddling. That's all theater kids are. Lin-Manuel Miranda was on SNL. He did a sketch about the Crucible cast party. You remember that? Wait, before I lose it. Yeah. There's another type of theater kid that was a straight dude that was in theater, but he's the where's my hug kind of guy. Oh.

Wait, where's that one from? Where's my hug? Or is that just like a meme right now that everyone's saying the where's my hug guy? He's a type of person. Yeah. Are you that person? No. I can tell, by the way. You just gave thumbs up only. But yeah, the where's my hug guy is crazy. And they still have those all the time. And you're just like, don't. I mean, it's kind of unfortunate because it is in reality just someone who struggles socially. But yeah.

But at the same time, it's also like you should know how to respect people's boundaries. We don't hug. A lot of people hug us or whatever. I just – but maybe it's awkward, but I just don't love hugs. Like I don't want an inferior ear space. I don't want it in my space. I have a belly. I have boobs. I have all this stuff. I'm like I don't know what you want – who wants to touch what. Some people don't like just being touched in general and that's fine. I like being touched. But yeah, hugs are a lot. But when people come – did we hug? My friend Emma is not a hug person. Are you? Did we hug? I'm trying to think. No. I believe we did hug.

Yeah, I feel like it's obligatory. Like, you're like, I choose to hug this person. We sure can. We sure can. Because I didn't think you... I don't know if you would be a hugger. And I was also trying to, like, cosplay as straight. So I'm like...

Shake your hands. Why did you feel the need to do this? Oh, I love that. That's everything. How was my handshake? Hey, bud, let me shake your hands. Wait, did you shake your hands? Yeah. Oh, that's wild. How was my handshake? I think pretty solid. No? I think pretty solid. It was a lot of feelings when you first walked in. It was like a rush, to quote Troye Sivan. Well, yeah. I imagine that like, because everyone's smaller on the TV, you know, I imagine when I walked in, it was like a beast walked in.

because I'm so big. - It's just a lot. Yeah, it was a lot. - It's a lot. - It was like, 'cause it's been months of manifestation. - 'Cause I feel that when I meet someone who also is of even my height and I haven't seen them in person before, I'm like, "Holy shit, you're fucking tall." And even if they were the same size, I'm like, "Holy shit, you're my equal." - I knew you would be tall too, but I think seeing you in this room really put into perspective. - Yeah, you almost hit your head on that thing. I was like, "Careful." - Yeah. - Oh my God, no, it was wild. Yeah, it's like a...

Also, like for me, because I just didn't – I'm like this is so weird. Like maybe he doesn't want to be here. That's why I was asking Oscar. I'm like how did you like talk this out? Because I'm like he's – I'm like how did you get him on here? He definitely is not a fan. Honestly, the only thing I had coming in here was I was worried. It was one of those podcasts where you guys start before like at a certain time and I was going to show up and you guys are all going to be going. Oh, like a mid-guess. And I felt bad because I was like eight minutes late. You are so punctual. We've had people four hours late. Literally. Yeah. Well, that's just –

We love that. I don't care. Were they a YouTuber? Yes. That explains it. And she's cool. So I was like, I don't mind. I'll wait five hours for her. Or did they tell you? Yeah. She's like, oh, we're heading out soon. We're heading out soon. And she knows. Shout out to Hannah. She knows. We'll be here at like four o'clock. I think it was like seven. I go to bed early. So that was the only thing. Really? When do you go to bed? Yeah. Seven. That's awesome. Yeah. So she was like, it was like seven. I love waking up at like five in the morning. Yeah. That's what time I get up. Do you get up early? Yeah. We're early birds. I woke up at 545 today.

Wow. And what do you do? Go to the gym? I go on my phone. I walk out on my balcony and then I'll start to shower and then I will be on the toilet on my phone for like maybe 40 minutes. That's not good. That's how you get hemorrhoids. Really? Yeah. Shit, I need to stop doing that. I was getting them so much and Mo's like, you're on the toilet. It's fun though to be on the toilet. I just end up there and it's like, I don't know.

I don't know. I should stop. You live alone, right? So you don't need to like hide in there or anything. You're right. I don't. Sometimes I do. I just be like, I'm in the bathroom and I need to go on TikTok or something. Yeah. I think it's because I loathe the – I know I need a shower, but I loathe the process of like – of getting out and having to –

get on like stop being wet yeah and like the drying thing get a robe I don't know I think there's like if I'm on the spectrum maybe it's like that category specifically I think I maybe got like 1% of a sensory thing with with just drying myself off with a towel like it's just a pain in the ass but if it's a sensory thing because he's a sensory thing he puts like three towels on him because it's like get this water off me you know what I mean oh interesting

Especially if you have any hair on your body, it's just like extra wet. I think I just do it fast to try to get it over with. He does like three towels. Because he's like a sensory person. You do? Three towels. Yeah, like as soon as possible, get it off. But anyways, he's a whole water spiritual cleanser. It's a whole other thing. But this is – we've joked in three – because we have three hours for Hot Topics, but I would never keep a guest here for this long. I was like worried about that and I was like – because I didn't know what you guys were going to ask me.

I don't know. It's a key. It's always fun. We don't know either. Yesterday, I'm like, are we just going to key or are we going to – These have all been ballpark topics. I've been chilling this whole time. Well, you came up with a lot of topics. Like all our topics, I was just like, well, you came up with so many. So you steered the conversation. Yeah, you're a great guest. You're such an alpha. Is that right? I'm the alpha. I'm the leader. Sorry. TikTok? With the wolves. Yeah. But from the Disney movies, zombies or whatever with –

Milo. That Milo guy. Milo. Milo. I don't know. I don't know him. But we know Slotch. The only reason why I know him is because I was at Saddle Ranch at one point. Oh my God, you're such a vlogger. Influencer. 2021. Oh, that makes more sense. But that's like bright palm. But when it was hip and I was like, I gotta see what this fucking Saddle Ranch thing is about. And I was, they do this thing where you get a dessert and they let you make s'mores.

And so I was doing that and then some guy walks up next to me and we're just chatting and stuff. And then later on I see that he was this guy who acted in this Disney movie, which is the zombie one, I think, where that song, the I'm the Alpha, I'm the Leader thing comes from. But I just ran into him and I was like, oh, I was making s'mores with that guy. You recognized him? Yeah, because I don't know. He was a nice guy. Did you get a picture of him?

I didn't know who he was. It was after the fact. I was like, hey, I recognize that guy from the Saddle Ranch. I had him made a s'more next to him. And he's a TikTok sound guy. I'm sorry. I think I just totally pulled you away from what you were trying to say there. No, no. That was good. Oh, yeah. I know. I know what I was trying to say. It's probably easier because I've done like a million of these.

Yeah, like podcasts. I've seen you everywhere. You have your own, your chuckle sandwich. I was just like, this is just like natural for you, which is crazy because it's like you've only been an influencer like from 2018. It's not even that long and you're just like so natural at it. It's like actually insane. Probably the theater kid in me, you know? That's what I like. I got excited when I heard you singing Grinch. Yeah, you really turned around. Oh, I was like, oh, theater? Yes. Oh my God. So you initially had reservations. Yes. She gets nervous around any straight guests. Straight guests.

Also, Oscar kept talking about you and I was just like, because we were talking about the weekend. Zach Efron. He's like, Ted Nipiss. I'm like, stop. Stop. I don't know who this is. Just stop. Even yesterday. Did you guys go to the weekend Halloween Horror Nights thing? I'm scared of it. He did. I'm too scared. I don't like horror stuff. Well, it's closed now. So you can't go anymore. I know. I just get too scared. It sounded like you were like, I've been putting it off. It's like, no, it's been like eight months. No, it's been like a...

Dude, it's been like almost two years since they did the weekend one. Oh, the weekend one. Yeah. It was the scariest one there. But also kind of funny that like –

Someone out there was like, there's something inherently terrifying about The Weeknd. Let's get him to make a horror house. It is kind of weird, yeah. I don't know. He's just in everything. It's like Stranger Things, fucking Jaws. They got Friday the 13th, The Weeknd. No, The Maze was wild. I saw it. I was like, that was kind of wild, actually. I guess he's a scary guy. I mean, I just don't think they should be basing a whole –

or a maze around him. It seems a little rude. He's just connected. He got us to play in Fortnite. We play Fortnite for our Patreon and we play in the weekend skin. That's the only reason I joined. I was like, all right, I'll join because of the weekend. But no. But we love that we got a dream guest on here. The manifestation worked. Thank you for coming on and being our dream guest. Thank you for having me. Is there one song we should sing as an outro that you know that you love? I want to sing another one. That's so fun. No one ever sings with me, so I got excited when we did Chip on Her Shoulder. Let's choose something from Legally Blonde. Yay!

Which one? We're all in pink right now. Okay, which one? We both know why we're here. I see it in your eyes. Do you know that one? Oh, keep going. Time to get serious with you. It's like serious. Less of a Marilyn, more of a Jackie. Serious. Someone who's classy and not so tacky. What? I don't know that one. Wait, really? When he's proposing? He's like, I think we should break up. And she's like, what? You're breaking up with me? Let's do a...

What do you know from Leigh Blonde? What you want, now we're set. What you want, let's go get. What you want is right in front of you. Stop when you're off to Harvard Law, so I'll get in there too.

Actually, I don't know what it was. I think I did. And about Elton New. Man, what else? Oh, my God. Okay, not Legally Blonde then. I love all the Legally Blondes. Man, we could sing a fucking. Back to the sun, back to the shore, back to what I. Emma's in that one. That's. Oh, yeah, I know that. You know, it's been eight years. I'm so sorry. I wish I could. I needed some music. Okay, do you know any song? Any song? Do I know any song? Any song at this point? Staring at the blank.

Bye. Bye.

Bye. Bye.

A little scat there. Yeah, that's a little key and peel acapella. Okay. That was good. Thank you. Thank you. That was a good one. We all knew it. That was good. Yeah. Love it. Oh, you guys, check out Ted Nifferson, his real name. It's not television. Check out Chuckle Sandwich. Check out all his eating shows. The Chuckle Sandwich is named after my high school acapella, or not acapella, improv group. That's also pretty alarm. Okay, shout them out too. Yeah.

Oh, what was her name? Jalemi. Jalemi. No, no. Jamila. Jamila. What was the name? I want to get it right. Jamila. Jamila. Shout out Jamila for making this happen. Shout out Ithaca College. Honestly, we'll give credit to Jamila.

In a very legitimate way. No, we love you so much. You made dreams come true today, Jamila. I hope you feel good about yourself. No, you get karma points all day long. You get karma forever. Yes. And yeah, thanks, Teneficent, for being here. You were amazing and wonderful. And I can't wait to see you on tour in your stand-up comedy special. In Australia. Stay safe over there. Oh, stay safe. It's all good. Well, I might even get stabbed. It's going to be fine. All right. See you guys in the next one. Bye.