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Happy gay month to all the gays. And queers. And queers. Why is it gay pride? It should be queer pride. I think it's just pride. Oh, really? Yeah. Oh, I'm going to say gay pride. Okay, to all the queers. I like queer month. That's better. That is better. Queer is a fun word to say too. It is.

It is. I love it. It's been reclaimed. Now it's like a safer term now almost. Right, right. It doesn't exclude anyone. It doesn't exclude anyone. Kind of everybody falls into queerness. I don't even care if you're like, not me, I'm straight. No, I think you fall into the queerness too. You know, but it's fine. It's fine. We love everyone. We love the allies too. We love everyone. The straights, but I love the queers a little more. But we love everyone. Happy pride. Happy pride. Not gay pride. Happy pride. Happy pride to you specifically. Okay.

Can we say, oh no, I'm in the queer group. I keep thinking gay. Okay. So happy pride to us. Everyone. Yeah, everyone has been in. So we're not labeling anyone here. We're all in the umbrella. So. Happy birthday. Happy birthday. My daughter's going to have to stand up for her. They sing this every morning. So that's our little happy birthday thing. So our pride outfits today. Mine is, I don't even know. I just, I saw someone post a Taylor Swift rainbow outfit and I thought it was new and everyone today was like clocking me on TikTok and they're like, I love her 2019 Taylor lover cosplay. I was like, okay, okay. It's old.

It's old, I get it. I thought it was new and I thought I was going to get this fresh out outfit. And everyone on TikTok wanted to know if I got the shoes. I did not get the shoes. I looked for them everywhere. They were Sal McCartney shoes. I got these knockoff ones though. Oh, those are fierce though. Yeah, someone emailed shoe cam. Someone emailed this to me. I can finally get my feet. They were long as swollen. They returned a shoe cam. They returned a shoe cam. My feet are not swollen. I can actually wear shoes. I feel so put together. I can actually get my feet up here. Two weeks after a C-section, look at me just flexing my abs, my ab muscles. I think they made me put abs in there. I feel stronger. I'm on walks now.

Maybe they put some in there when they took out the baby. But these are knockoffs. They're from China. They kind of smell bad, but not because they're from China, just because they came overseas and they kind of smell bad. Well, I don't know. They're made cheaply, so that's probably the smell, the plastic. Anyways, Blenciaga smells like that, too, so I'm just saying. And I also have the Birkin bag. The rainbow Birkin. Ooh, was that a song you were going to sing to it? Yeah, I was going to. The gayness is really coming out today. The rainbow.

That's historic. It's like the first brick at Stonewall and then the Rainbow Birkin. Yeah. Or you put it in gay terms. It's like the first brick at the Medellin Society. Do you know what that is?

You don't know? I didn't either. I Googled it yesterday. My friend, Andrew Valentine, shout out Andrew Valentine, he did all 60 of my music videos. He did this, he did a movie that's called The Maraschino Family. I don't know how to pronounce it, but it's such an important word because we talked about it. We're like, why would he name a movie something you can't pronounce? It's like Maraschina. Maraschina. Anyways, it's on Amazon Prime. It stars Juan Pablo de Pachi from Fuller House. And,

It's about a gay couple. Actually, no. It's about a family. There's a lesbian couple. There's a lesbian raising a kid with a gay man. Then there's two gay couples, the main one. They were foster parents. He lost the foster kid. It's a really good movie. It's just about family. It's good for Pride Month, too, because it's very...

queer friendly i don't know i don't know how to describe queer stories queer stories yeah it's loosely based too on his story because him and his husband has uh they they have a child now and so there's this like i think it's like loosely based on theirs his husband wrote it it's really good shout out danny and andy i love them so much um why was i talking about that oh mad at madashina i don't know how you're saying i don't know how to pronounce it but the word is important it's m-a-t-t-a-c-h-i-n-e and it's about the madashina society and in silver lake there's the madashina steps and i guess the madashina society is the first

like group for gay people in the 50s to feel like connected to not feel like homophobic to fight homophobia you know what I mean like it's very that so anyways it's a good movie I watched it yesterday just because well because he's my friend I didn't even know it would fit into pride month

Pride month, but it did. And I loved it. It was good. It was actually really sad. Spoiler alert. But it ends good. Anyways, go watch it. And why am I holding the Birkin talking about this? I don't know. Because the winner gets the Birkin. Oh, and the Mattachino. Right. Okay. No, the winner does not get the Birkin, first of all. There's too much chaos happening. No, this Birkin, you know what? I was selling it for a million, but I'll do $750 for it. $750K. That's fair. And I'll donate half of that to Pride. It's just a Pride. Yeah.

Or to some gay charities. We'll divvy it up. Half of it because I need the other half. I've been working hard and hustling this, okay? You know what I mean? But yeah, there's the pride brick. And how's your outfit? What's your outfit today? It's pretty gay. I have my little rainbow necklace on. I have this little shirt that was from Joey Graceffa, so it's skinny. So flex. Such a flex. Yeah.

You fit into Joey Grisop's shirt. I know. It's being stretched to the max. No, no it wasn't. It looked so good when you walked in. But it's like also, I think on him probably fits normal. On me, it's like a crop top. I love that though. But that's even more pride-ish. You know what I mean? Yeah, tummy's out. I love it. Yeah. And then I just like did a red little jacket. I don't know. I surprisingly didn't have a lot of gay stuff. I was like...

I for sure have something gay in my closet. I just figured. Right. But I was pretty shocked and goop that it was like a lot of – Yeah. I mean, there's a lot of like Twilight, Olivia Rodrigo. Yeah, I think that would fit into the pride. Yeah, it's so gay, I think. Right? I think so. I think Twilight's considered queer coded. Yeah. For sure, that. But I figured I should go lean a little rainbow because I knew that you were doing the lover outfit. The lover outfit, yes. I love that we went rainbow. I was very excited for it. What was my headshot of the day too? So I was like, let me just go –

full out for it. I actually have it tied back because I had the person that did the costume do like my measurements from when I was five months pregnant. So I was like, okay, I'll probably be like five months pregnant. But it's like, it's so big. Oh my God. So I'm just skinny over here. I'm eating eggs and grapefruit and walking. I know I love seeing like your little fitness when you do your walks and you have your Apple Watch. I'm like, that's fierce. Because it didn't happen if it's not online. As we said last week, we didn't even have a baby unless it's been posted online. So I love the rainbow necklace. You just had that in your closet. I got it in Hawaii, I think two years ago.

Yeah. And I knew it would come in handy one day. I still have it. I know. Rainbows are ugly 11 months out of the year. Yeah. But June, rainbows are fierce. You have a rainbow behind you. I know. I can't forget. There's some lore behind it. But before we do that, because I know Moses will get uncomfortable in his, not because it's queer, just because it's...

It's tight on his neck and he hates it. It is warm. We had the air on to cool it down. This is a good outfit you picked out today. You can't have rainbows without the sky, first of all. Oh, okay. Below that, there's the Malibu's favorite gay icon. She is. Wow. Teletubbies. She does love the Teletubbies. Do you know the song? Malibu.

That was good. Wow.

Okay. Yeah. Pose the icon according to Trixie. Say hello. Yeah. Say hello. Uh-oh. Tell the tubbies bye-bye. Supposedly the queer one is the Twinkie Winkie, but I think some of them are now saying everyone is because you said they were on the Drag Race. Yeah, they were just on Drag Race All Stars. And they did a little mini challenge with all the queens. And they danced? They danced. Yeah. They did a little breakdown dance. It was wild. Wow. I need to see that. We live for the tell-a-tubbies. Shout out tell-a-tubbies Instagram. They always comment on our stuff. Yeah.

I love that. They sent us things. Yeah, like literally like there was one post that was kind of like kind of out there in the comments. I can't remember what it was. And I was like, okay, tell us.

Teletubbies like commenting on it. They use their sound, I think, too. Oh, yeah. They use the sound. Teletubbies really likes us. Marigold really does enjoy playing with them. Maybe we can insert the picture of her sitting out the window with all her Teletubbies. Yeah, she loves. She really does love them. I think Dipsy's the icon, the one with the hat. And she's so smart. One day she was trying to tell me. She was like trying to tell me again, again. She wanted to do something again. And I didn't understand what she was saying. And then she was saying she calls them Yaya, the Teletubbies. And she's like, Yaya, again, again.

So I understand that she's saying it because he says again, again. Yeah, they go again, again. If you don't understand what I'm saying, that's what Tia says, again, again. So she's so smart at like trying to get. Because she would say more if she wants it. She does the sign language because she's just smart. I don't even know where she learned the sign language. But she goes more or like, please, thank you. Like she knows all the sign language. She goes more. I don't know how. Maybe it's Coco or something. Do they do it? Someone does it. Someone, Coco Mello. But she, yeah, she loves the Teletubbies and the again, again is them. She would do more. But she goes again, again.

Yeah. And she does the big hugs and tells our icons in every single way. We just love them. And I love – I mean, they could also be allies. They don't all have to be queer, I guess. They could be allies. I'm not going to put it on them. But I love that they're not afraid to do that too. Miss Rachel was getting canceled for wanting to collaborate with Dylan Mulvaney. And I'm like, people need to chill. Okay? People need to chill. Everyone gets so worked up. I'm like – You need to calm down. Oh, is that this outfit that I'm wearing? Yeah. Is it? Did she sing it in this? Yeah. You need to calm – is that –

Oh, because that video was super gay. It's also gay. Yeah. It was her gay era. It was her gay influencer era. Yeah. I'm surprised Tracevon wasn't in it. I feel like that was the era he would have been in it. He did perform at her concert. Really? I think like twice. Like open or? Like they did a collab. They like sang together. Oh my God. I know. She really is the gay icon probably Taylor Swift, right? Yeah.

I think she had like a queer era. Now she's kind of for everyone. I think Donald Trump today was saying how much he likes Taylor Swift, which is, you know. Oh no. I know. Everyone's getting in on her. So now I think she's just for just about everyone. But in 2019, she was very for the gays. I like people who are just for the gays sometimes. Like Slater or something. Yeah, a Charlie XCX, a Troye Sivan. She's kind of becoming mainstream though. Charlie? Yeah. She's one of my hot topics today, actually. Oh, really? Oh, I didn't even hear anything. Okay, we have a lot to talk about. But before we do,

what we do let's get into the lore of this dude you know what it's from i feel like you should know like i feel like you know the lore of me but if you don't maybe don't no wait is this was was that episode here did that episode air oh ttt it did not air i think that episode did not air so no one knows do you know were you gonna say something from the podcast from uh yeah oversharing because it was normally black right the sequins

Right. So we, okay. So yes. So we had like a black curtain with the black, like hanging downs from Amazon. Kind of like our pink one over there that we do our Patreon on. And this was for the rainbow backdrop. It was for the sides. We had the rainbow, right? Yeah. Cause I had to, I had to put wings on the side cause the camera, you know, it was too white for the individual shot. So I had like wings and I would change those according to, so this must've been exactly a year ago.

Yeah, that we did the Pride episode that never aired. Yeah, so I got this fabric. It was dark. Yeah. And it was – It was pretty. It's two pieces. I cut it to two and each wing had one. It looked so pretty and I'm so happy we get to use it again. Yeah, it was really – it was actually iconic because in the – oh, that's what it was. We did Ariel and Ursula. So the behind us were the blue hanging down to be like the ocean and then the side was Pride. And it was going to be a really wonderful episode. Actually, it wasn't. I look back, it's kind of trash actually. Like honestly, what did we even – like literally we talked about C-sections for the fifth time.

fifth time and I mean great love it but also like not not gay pride either I was like or pride sorry I keep saying pride sorry I think of gays but it was it was a mess but anyways we get to reuse it now and hopefully this won't be hopefully this won't be an unaired episode hopefully this comes out it won't be cursed

Yeah, that was during Pride. I was so excited, too. Damn, that really sucks. It's almost the one-year anniversary of all that happening, huh? The toxic gossip team and all that. That's crazy. I know. I was just telling Moses, I don't want to be in the drama, but I'm just saying, like, I wish there was, like, another big drama like that for the summer that we could cover here. But it has nothing to do with it. Exactly, yeah. Because what a time that would have been, right? Like, if I wasn't involved in this, like, really...

analyze everything coming out because it is exciting I get why people like drama right because like we have lives that are just like walking and eating lunch or whatever like you know I say boring but what is it it's not boring peace what is it non-drama yeah peaceful peaceful it's just like peaceful nothing's happening and it's great but it's kind of fun to like go online and just see like oh like I'd love to be like oh look at this or this you know what I mean and it's kind of fun if it's not like too serious and it was that was serious but then like

But then the song was so unserious that it was like everyone had a key over it. Yeah, if like Peeta came out and was like ukulele apology, that'd be wild to dissect. That was wild. It was bad. It was a bad summer. But at the same time, looking back, there was some moments. Yeah, some like laughable moments, you know. That was wild. But yeah, I get it because it's like...

It's just seeing all the updates, you know, like you open Square and there was like a new meme or whatever, like a new take, new information coming out. It's like, oh my God. It's just like it gives you something to like dive into, you know? Yeah, like wake up. This is happening. Yeah, that was – it was a wild time. I guess like when you're involved in it, it's like different. It's like so anxious because you're like what else is going to come out? And you're just like waiting for that like other shoe to drop and then it did. And then you're like waiting for another shoe to drop and you're just like, oh my gosh. Like it was a lot.

because I really was like not trying to be involved. That was literally, that was the origin of my villain story, I feel. Because like literally I was like no drama for like two years. I was like, I am never talking about anyone again. Like I don't like it, whatever. And then like that happened and it kind of opened up the floodgates. You know what I mean? Like Just Trish had to start because one, I had all this podcast equipment. Gotta do something with it. Yeah. So then I called you and I was like, I don't know. I don't want to do drama. And then boom, the first one I was like Ariana Grande, Ethan Slater, just all this. I was like, you know what? I'm good at this.

Wendy's retired. They need someone new. You know what I mean? So anyways, I feel like now we're like in a good balance though. It's just fun. Yeah. It's not serious. It's like gossiping is just fun sometimes. Like when you're not that invested, it's not really your life, you know? And it's like, we're just, you know,

Having a key. That's all it really is. Yeah. It never is that serious. Right. Like there's not a new drop and I'm like on TikTok being like what the hell. You know, I can wait a week, you know, to get the gossip and to, you know, just relax about it, you know. Yeah. I think anyways. But we don't have any sponsors today and we also don't have a new headshot but the new, the headshots are shipped out this week. Go to patreon.com slash justtrish. Patreon.com slash justtrish. This will be your headshot next month along with the Birkin, uh,

Trish Modi sticker. Oh my God. Okay. We have the new... Oh, okay. I don't know where to go from... Anyways, let's finish the Patreon. Shout out. We posted... I saw... This was my anti-climactic news. I'm like, we're going to wait. And you were like, I have good news. And I was like, oh my God. Mine is just like, you got the Guitar Hero up. Yeah, the Fortnite festival. Yes. Okay. Yes, yes, yes. I'm so impressed. I didn't watch it, but I'm so impressed that you were able to do it because I know there was like audio issue. I don't even know what happened, but... I know. Thank you for doing it. We were in our experimental gaming era for like one day with Callie and...

That was literally in March, though. I was, like, looking for the footage and then I could not find it. Look, I knew you would have it on your pink laptop, though, because you only use it that one time. I'm like, it has to be on there. Yeah, thank God. But it was a little chaotic. But luckily...

Like you were singing the song so I could sync up the songs to your singing and get it like perfect. Wow. Save the day. So thank God. Yeah. And then it got me thinking. I was like, I almost want you maybe for season two to have like the Kelly Clarkson, like her Kelly-okey. Oh, just like the NME show singing? Cover a different song. That's my dream. Absolutely. Whatever Kelly Clarkson covers that week, I will too. Yeah.

I would live. Oh, yeah. I kind of feel like Kelly Clarkson, like, before her weight loss. She had the bangs. She had the little, like, extra suit on her. You know what I mean? Like, I feel like that's me right now. But don't worry. I'm going to get to Kelly Clarkson now. I'm on my fitness hair. Actually, when you texted us, we were, like, walking. We were on a fitness journey. So, we didn't get home until, like, noon or something. And then, it was a whole thing. But, um.

Yeah, that's up. And then we have one more. Do we have the Wendy's dreamsicle? Oh, yeah. We have a Wendy's dreamsicle. We have to continue Dramageddon. Everyone's waiting for that one. Yeah, we should plan that day to do the Dramageddon for sure. Because we got a lot to cover there. I think there's still like three videos in the part three of the Dramageddon saga. The next one is the Tati Clapback a Year Later. It's the Tati Clapback a Year Later. No More Lies or Breaking My Silence. One of those. Breaking My Silence. Breaking My Silence. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Okay, I'm so excited. I'm so excited.

Part two was so crazy. It almost has like a thousand likes on our Patreon. People like live for it. The comments are so funny. Everyone's been waiting. I've been waiting too. Everything we post is like hilarious. Drama getting. And I feel like now I'm even more undirected. Last time we did it I was like a week before giving birth and I was like so tired of this. I'm like I'm so ready for it. Yes. Let's plan a day. We'll do the Triple Berry Wendy's. Oh tea. Yes. See if they have the bucket. Someone told us they have the bucket now. I went they said they didn't. Oh.

Oh, and they have those saucy nuggets, which I know you probably wouldn't like, but I'm intrigued. I'm intrigued by the saucy nuggets. So we should do the Wendy's, Triple Berry, the saucy nuggets, and then we'll go and do the Jammagetan. Yeah. This week is pretty open for us. Jammagetan part two was crazy. It's been so long since we did it. It's only been like a few weeks, but it's...

seems like a long time ago. I does feel longer. That was wild. There's so much. Go look at it at Patreon. Patreon.com slash Jess Trish. We do the extended podcast for you guys. We have a bonus episode on Saturdays and then we have the headshot of the month, the stickers of the month. And I accidentally discovered a new feature on Patreon because I was trying to tell everyone it was going to be a day late. So I was like, the bonus is going to be a day late. And I went to like figure out how to tell everyone and I accidentally started like a live chat and it reminded me of like AIM, like the chat rooms. Woo!

Everyone got a notification. And then we were just talking in there. So maybe we could do that one day. Wait, really? Yeah, we could just have a little chat room. Just typing? Just typing. It was so fun. Okay, that's fun. What can I talk about? I love that. I was just trying to let everyone know that it was going to be a day late. And then everyone just started like keying. And I was like, oh, let's gab. Oh, that would be so fun. Okay, now that I know, that's great. Yeah, so we can do that some days. It confused me a little bit. That's why I have you and my sister helping me because I'm kind of confused like how it works. I just.

I'd like have ideas for it and whatever but that would be fun. Yeah, we could schedule little live chats or something. Like a Discord? Is that what it is kind of? Kind of, yeah. It literally reminds me of like AIM like those chat room days. I never did the chat room. You didn't? I was scared. I always thought like some like 50-year-old man was going to come and kidnap me out of my bedroom. I mean, Tia. Which very, very Tia. Yeah, it's not like all the Lifetime movies is like AIS

or something. Yeah. Yeah. And I was like, that's so scary. And then they meet up and he's like, oh, I didn't think you would meet up with me if I told you my real age. And then she has to like escape out of the house. Is that a Degrassi episode? Probably. I feel like I saw it. Yeah, I think so. And she like hides

like hides in the bathroom and he's like hey come out it's okay that is he yeah and then he's like I'm gonna leave and you come out and he like he opens the door and shuts it and then she gets out of the bathroom and he's there and he like grabs her I think it's I don't know I've never seen Degrassi I just see clips on TikTok yeah it sounds very Degrassi coded for sure because they've covered the gambit on that program it shocks me that you weren't like a chat room girl because you were so like

Are you sending letters to like old celebrities and stuff? Well, I have celebrities I would say. Yeah. I'm like, okay, if they're old celebrities, if they kidnap me, at least I'll be a story. If it's just like some random guy down the street, it's like that's just a headline that disappears. You know what I mean? Not that, I mean, it's all sad. That's why I don't like checkered. Yeah. It's horrible, but. I was definitely a little chatroom boy. Oh. Yeah. Did you lie about your age? I don't think.

I don't think – maybe. I don't think so. I can't really remember. I do remember some, like, creepy, like, moments, though, for sure. Where people, like, hit on you? Do they see your – they don't see you? No, they don't see. Were you sending pictures? No. But they would, like, ask to talk sometimes. And I remember one was, like –

Like, I was little. Like, I definitely was little. And it got, like, weirdly sexual. It was like, oh, like, does your dad know you're talking to me? Or stuff like that. So they knew your age. Yeah. And also, I probably sounded like a little boy or a little girl. No, but they – I mean, that's disgusting. That's what they like. It's like the catch-up predators. They know their age. Yeah. They, like, will say, don't tell anyone. We'll get in trouble. Because, like, even in real life, it would be like that. Like, I would actually just talk to, like, 50-year-old men in real life when I was 12. And they're like, oh, my God. Don't tell anybody. Like, we couldn't be friends if you knew. Uh-huh.

When you think about like when you actually think about that stuff it is actually so disgusting. And how many people are like that in those chat rooms make it so easy. I'm glad now we do have like Degrassi and Lifetime movies so you can like warn the little like people like what has happened. Yeah. And like we all grew up with that so then we grew up and become parents then now we're like very much like. Not on chat ever. Like no social media no chat nothing until she's like 16 or

like that. Yeah. Maybe 18. I don't know. I think even I saw like a random like headline that like with Chrissy Teigen, I know she's a hot, you know, she triggers some people, but she did say like with her kids. What were you going to say? Hot what? I was like hot topic, but that was like two weeks ago. I didn't mean like hot piece of ass or something. I was like what? What?

Yeah, me on the Pride episode saying Chrissy Teigen, a hot piece of ass. Yeah. It sounded like you were like, wait, maybe I should like tone it down. She was a hot topic with Callie. I remember that episode. A hot topic. Yes. Okay, but it's not maybe hot take or I don't know. Yeah, yeah, yeah. She triggers some people. Some people don't like her. But she did say like she's waiting until her kids are like 18 or after they graduate high school for them to have social media. And honestly, I get it. Like it's crazy.

brutal out there. It's crazy. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. And people are just weird and the access to people. Like if I would have had like social media as a teen – oh, because you're a little younger than me too. Because I was like we – I think the chats were like later on. Maybe there was AOL when I was but I just didn't know. Maybe we didn't have Wi-Fi because I don't know. I can't remember. But I feel like – It was still like the dial-up days like when the chat rooms were a thing. Yeah. Maybe we just didn't have it or something like that. But if I would have had the access, I would have been like wild and for sure. Yeah, I was like writing hand – like you said,

handwritten notes to people so I don't know what do I know but yeah be careful out there that is like so scary actually yeah I'm glad those aren't really like a thing anymore and granted there's like a million other friggin plot like discord and everything else too but yeah at least I think there's more awareness of like stranger danger and all that stuff yeah cause I'm telling you the person you're talking to online is not the person talking to you online

line like especially if you can't see them if they're anonymous if they're not if they can't put their webcam on or something and like shows like catfish I think there's just so much more like media documenting that stuff so I think there's just like more

Catfish is wild. I'm like, are these people that dumb? No offense, but, like, you'd be so dumb. They're like, their phone doesn't work. Especially after the show, like, is a thing. Like, maybe before the show or, like, remember there was a movie first. Right, right. It was about Ned being Catfish. Yeah. So, like, after, like, Catfish became a thing, I feel like you should know about...

catfishes. Yeah, right, right. Like, yeah, maybe if they can't FaceTime me, if you can't show their face. Like, there's so many people I know, and I'm just like, if you're not seeing their face, why would you believe that that's a real person? Anyways, I guess it can happen to the best of us, but I don't know. No one's catfishing me, that's for sure. But speaking of, wait, was I talking, there was something else I was talking about, the Patreon, we were talking about, did you get the intro? What? No, I don't think so. The new intro? I think you did.

I haven't checked my email today, though. Oh, my God. I don't know if we should, like... I kind of want to put it out now. Why not? Because I know we're waiting for season two, but I mean, it's kind of exciting. I want you to see it. Do you want to check? Should I watch it now? Yeah. Okay. Okay. I thought maybe you might wait to watch it because I know you wanted to be surprised. I don't know.

I don't know if it's that exciting. It's exciting to me, but it's not that exciting. It is. It's very exciting. Okay. I want to show you. I think it's done. I think it's ready to put up. Shout out Jeremy for doing this song, Jeremy and Connor. He didn't show me, so the sound... I think it's synced up. And I think Lou Izzle, who did the animation, I think he kind of synced a little bit more of it too. So I think it's all synced up perfect. So we're not using the intro at the beginning of the show. Now we're going to show you guys the intro that's going to be... Oh, it's the debut. Oh, the premiere? Okay. So next week we can start using it?

Yeah, when we do the two hot topics a week. Okay, okay, okay. So this is the premiere. So in this premiere video. Okay, you get TV and thanks. Five, four, three, two, one. Okay, yeah, love that. Okay, so we're going to be doing, well, you kind of just spilled the beans that we're doing two hot topics a week.

I guess that's an announcement. No, not on camera, have we? Last week you did. Okay. Are people excited? I didn't see anyone say anything about that. We're doing two hot topics a week because we ran out of people to ask to be on the show.

No, we might get Austin Butler on. I think that might be. I told my agents, I'm like, I want Austin Butler. I want Zendaya. I think Zendaya is a possibility. I feel like she's cool. I feel like she would be. Nicola, she's doing press right now. Yeah, she'd be a slay. I would love her. So I had a list. I kind of forgot people. I think Zac Efron I put on the list.

Yeah. Yeah, that's work. Yeah. He's in that Netflix movie coming out, so he'll be on your costume. Yeah, we talked about that family affair. We'll have his brother going on Traders. Maybe we can ask him about it. Yeah.

So anyways, we're open to more guests too, obviously. But I mean, that's just what we have. But this is really what the audience have been asking for. They want to talk hot topics a week. And then if you feel that we can give you a guest that's better than the hot topic a week, then we'll come back. Which all the guests have been superb. But I'm just saying we don't know anybody else. So if you want to DM me or something, I literally run out of people.

So that's what I was like. And it was stressful. I was like, I can't find people and blah, blah. But yeah, we're going to do Hot Topics a week. Be fresher, be funner. We film on a Monday to air on Tuesday, but things start breaking on Tuesday. And so then we can go do the Wednesday. Maybe it's a little shorter. Maybe it's, I don't know, maybe we have a special guest. But yeah, we're going to go to two Hot Topics. We have one final guest this week. Well, not final guest, but one guest before we do it. And that's Moses for Father's Day. So yeah.

Yeah, we filmed that last week. We were very, we're always so chill. Every time we do that, I feel like I'm falling asleep in a good way. Like it's meditative. We're like. It's more, it's almost like, you know, our story time for the birth and.

Yeah. Also, it's chill because, hey, we don't sleep much at night right now. We don't sleep much. Yeah. So we're just like... We were very... That was our little date. Yeah. Anyways. So that's coming up this week. And then we'll go into our two hot topics. So we have a new intro. This is by Lou Izzle, who does my Trish emojis. I love him so much. I thought you guys were friends, but you said no. Someone just showed you his arms. I love that. He slays all day. The intro music is by Jeremy and Connor, my sad boy band members. And...

Also, pride. Jeremy is pride. Yeah. He's part of the pride movement. He was literally priding while he was working on this. He was. That's why we couldn't get the music because he was like, I lost my voice during pride and it's always something with him. He loves to party in WeHo and who doesn't really? Anyways, okay, so that's the intro and I'm excited. Okay. Okay, here we go. Five, four, three, two. Wow.

It's so cute! Yes!

Oh my God. Does it flow well? Does it fit well? Yes. Okay, okay. Oh my God, that little jingle is so good. They snapped. They snapped, right? They did snap. Oh my God. I was like, okay, Hot Topic Queen says that everyone means she's just... Sabrina Carpenter could never. That's the catchy song. She's just Trish. Yeah. He's like, do you want to... No. You just do it. Maybe one day I'll record it, but I was like, I can't right now. Trish's version at some point. Trish's version.

Yeah, that's our new little intro manifesting the pink Cybertruck and then I had your, did you like your little animation? Yeah, it was so cute. I looked skinny. That's what I said. I was like, okay.

like okay skinny queen i live with a little otter that is so sweet manifesting emmy for just trish too we love that well i think a good timing because they're gonna start um including like digital programs how do we get in it i think we can submit ourselves next year maybe because the like the chicken shop day in that hot one show are like trying to get nominated so yeah

easily. Yeah, for sure. We gotta launch a campaign next season. Could you imagine if we won? I think that it really is just, it's really favoritism at that point if we beat them. Because I feel like we could beat them as popularity contests. Like, if there's people at the Emmys working, like the U's of the world, right? And you're at the Emmys working, it's like, that's who we need. And then just like, Trish wins, you know what I mean? Because

Because I think there are. There's so many people that are kind of like high-key, low-key fans or whatever, and they're working at these big positions now, and they're like, we need Trish. And I think that's why I'm rising a little bit, because now finally all my little fans, they're in these power positions now, and they're like, we know Trish. You know what I mean?

And that's what I love. I mean, I'm old, but I'm like, I love that now because, like, you're a queen. Or a lot of the people on Power Up kids, you know, because even, like, the guy who runs, like, production at E.T., he's, like, the straightest, like, man ever. And, like, I've known him since I interned there, and I've always, like, annoyed him. And he never really comes up to me. He's like, hey, Oscar, that show that you do, like, my daughter's a fan. Can I bring her and, like, talk to you? And I was like, okay. No way! Did you meet her? Yeah, she came just to see me.

So yeah, she was asking about you and Tana and Brooke. No way! Isn't that so cool? It did make me feel cool. I was like, wow. Especially because I'm so low-key about everything there. Because I thought I was going to get in trouble when I first started doing the podcast. I was like, I'm just not going to tell anyone.

But then now they all know and now they like want to use me. I love. I was going to say ET had the photos. They had them ready when my birth announcement. I was like, yes. And they looked good. They looked good. I was like, these look good. These look like an Oscar edit. Yes, T. I was like, these are the photos you guys need to use. I loved it. They were good. They were wonderful. They had the best headline. Elvis has left the womb. I was like, that was me. That was.

So good. See, that's what I'm saying. When the good people get in the creative mode, they have the headlines. You know. You're like, okay, yeah, they know what's up. That was good. Because all the other ones, like, access E. I was like, oh, Tisha, welcome to number two. But this is like Elvis' iconic.

It was so good and I loved it. So we love, we love the connection. Are we, would I, hmm, is that nepotism? If I'm like, can I host ET? Would that be nepo? Because I know you. Is that nepotism? I think that's just networking. Okay. Yeah. I'm like, I know this person. So ET, let me host. One.

Both of us. Let's just host like one thing. I don't know. Go to the red carpet or something. Yeah, for something. Yeah. But we both have to dress up. You can't wear black because you said like some people can only wear black. Yeah. Like for the big events like the Oscars or whatever, like if you're working behind the scenes, like not on camera, you have to wear like a black suit. No. We need to dress up. We need to go and dress up and ET can make it happen. I see you with the bling microphone, ET. Yeah.

You probably did it before me. But I don't know. I feel like I've had a bling microphone for a decade now. But anyways, neither here nor there. We love E.T. But yeah, that's our new intro. And then Moe's also in it. He's wearing the iconic Tana I Heart Trisha Paytas shirt. That should be our merch. I love that I just gave these instructions to him. I'm like, how come Moe's wearing an I Heart Trisha Paytas shirt? You had a vision. I had a vision. I was like, what could he see?

Are you holding water? Is there anything else you're doing in that little cartoon or no? Or are you just waving? I'm trying to remember. I think I see it. Maybe it's a Just Trish cup. I don't know. Are you holding something? Yeah, okay. Oh, we have the Just Trish cup. We have the nuggets now. When I'm driving inside the burger, we have the spicy nuggets. There's little, you know. Easter eggs. Yeah, Easter eggs throughout. So it's changed up a little bit. We have a theme song, you know, sung by everybody. We love it.

And we'll always have a little pride in that jingle. You know what I mean? And like pride isn't proud. Not the gay part. Just the proudness of it. I love it. I think it's cute. That's our new jingle because it's Jess Trish and Oscar and Moses. It's a big part. People are always like, why is it called Jess Trish? I don't know because that's what it's called. I remember when we were like talking about the name before I started. Oh, yeah. Because like you –

We're running through a couple, but like that's the first one you thought of. And then I had the dream. I had a – I told you. I was like, I had a dream that you had merch that said Just Trish. So I'm like, I think you got to name it Just Trish. Oh, yeah. That's right. Yeah. Okay. It's happening now. You're right. Because I think it was also called like – they had one that was like only Trish. It was always Trish. Was there anything besides Trish? Do you remember? I don't think so. I think it was always Trish. It's always Trish. Trish.

I just actually wanted just my, like, not just Trish, but just Trish. Trish, the show. Like, just Trish. And now it's just Trish, I guess. But I guess because, yeah, I came from having co-hosts and stuff like that, so I'm like, hey, it's just Trish. But, you know, anyways, it's a full family here, a family of three, so it's...

It's just Trish and Oscar and Moses. It's fun. We have a fun intro. I can't wait to get the Tesla truck. I think I'm only need another 80 pounds. No, I need 80 pounds and I can get the Tesla truck. Cybertruck. We're paying them in pounds. Oh, yeah. What is 80 pounds in USD?

Probably $100. Oh, really? That's it? Oh, okay. Dropping 80 kilos. What's 80 pounds in kilos? Do you know? No. Is it more or less? A little bit less than 40. Doesn't that sound so skinny? Maybe 2.2, 2.4 pounds. I love everything in kilos. Do you know how much you weigh in kilos? I always weighed, like my whole life, I weighed like 70, 75, 80 kilos. That's so skinny. Wow. That sounds so skinny. Yeah.

Well, anyways. I'm 90 kilos right now. Oh. That sounds little. Skinny. Yeah. That's like crazy. To me, it's like 90 pounds. I know. You're 90 pounds. 90 kilos. Okay. Yeah, just move to kilos. You'll always be under. I love it. That's why. No, this will be small. Date someone who knows the metric system because they'll never know how much you weigh in pounds. When I said 200 pounds, it's like, is that a lot? I'm like, oh, no, not really. Skinny. It's tiny. So now when I say stuff, I mean, now I feel like you know more so, but when you know someone in metrics, they're like, oh, I don't know pounds. Perfect. Perfect.

But I need to drop 80 more pounds and then I can get my Cybertruck. You're getting there. Yeah. I am with the egg. And this week especially, I can't say what I'm doing. I can't even give hints. But I'm doing something big next week. And I'm really going to go hard this week at my eggs and my grapefruit. And I can't even hint. I know I want to, but I can't. I can't. I signed an NDA. I can't even tell you. It's a surprise free venue. Oh, my God. I'm so excited. I know. It's going to be – well, maybe it'll be big. Maybe it won't happen. But I think it's going to happen. So anyways, I always want to share it. I'm so that person that wants to share it. But –

All right. Well, let's go. Period. Well, speaking of wait, I can now – I wanted to text you this so bad. Oh, yeah. I got called chunky over the weekend and it was very, very triggering. And I think I would rather be called chubby than chunky. I think I'd rather be called anything else than chunky. Chunky is not bad. Okay. You didn't text me this part and then you didn't respond to mine because I was like maybe it was a compliment because first of all, chunky is there's – oh, I see what you're saying. Is it chunky chaser or chubby chaser? Chubby chaser.

chubby chaser oh chubby okay what was the context can you put it can you put it in full sentence this makes it even worse the context okay so i think i told you a couple weeks ago um that someone i hooked up with like in 2019 like started like going to my gym or whatever and he was weird because he'd be like work out next to me but like not talk to me so like the other day i finally like broke the ice i was like trying to be nice because he's wild like

his workouts are very like erratic and like the movements he makes look like not very safe like because he's like flailing around like kind of crazy so I was like maybe that's a crack or something what is he doing because I was trying to be nice and I was like hey like if you need like any tips or something on like form or whatever like I've trained for like I've had a trainer so like I kind of know stuff about form yeah you're being nice um

He's like, nah, like it's a, first of all, he has like a Southern accent, but I can't really do that Southern accent. That was pretty good, whatever that was. I like that. I just go up to like the really hot guys that I see here and like I ask them for tips on like form or whatever. Oh. But I see you work out with like that lady all the time because my trainer now is like a girl. I was like, that lady.

Like, it was, like, so, like, condescending. I was like, okay, well, like, if you need help with anything, let me know. He's like, yeah, I think I'm doing it right. Then he shows me, like, a before and after. Like, him, like, a couple months ago to now. He's like, yeah, like, I look like a completely different person now. And he lost, like, 20 pounds, which is great, but it's not, like...

anything earth shattering you know mr beast transformation yeah i'm like okay i'm like okay i'm just like let me know whatever oh that's kind of sad right there it's like okay dude you can just be like yeah thanks i'll let you know yeah i was like yeah so everyone else here but you like i was like okay i was like you were after me in 2019 like let's not forget we did like he was like oh but he pursued you yes back in the day so i was like who was more attractive you would say um i don't

I don't know. I mean, he's like taller and skinnier. But like back in 2019, like I was like average. Like it's not like a right of like a badge of honor. Right. Because I my type was like more like ugly, uglier, the better. Just because I was like freshly skinny. And I was like I was insecure around like hot guys. Whenever I hooked up with hot guys, I was like in my head. Yeah. So he's mid or less mid? Like mid, a little below mid, maybe. So.

six perhaps perhaps to me that's mid yeah yeah very mid um but then anyway so then i leave and i guess he like went up to like a straight guy like that i'm like acquaintances with and was like trying to like bro with him or something or like flirt with him i don't know because he was like oh like yeah that's oscar like as i was walking i guess oh that's oscar he's he's a chunky one he's got a fat ass but he's he's like too chunky for me and too femme wait okay wait okay but

This is not the guy at the gym this weekend. He just said this a while ago. No. This is what he said. Yes. So he's like introducing you to somebody else? Yeah. That's your introduction? You're hearing this. No. So I laughed. He told this straight guy that I'm like acquaintances with. But how do you know that? Because then I laughed that I'm friends with that guy he was talking shit about me about. So then he came and told me, I think trying to like laugh it off, not thinking I was going to like. He said chunky party?

part to you yeah she's like he like that guy just said like oh uh you're chunky oh my god first of all this is why straight men are so annoying like what why did he say that why did he tell you that that's so weird I think he thought it would be like funny or whatever that I would laugh it off but I was like oh hell no so then I I already left the gym at this point like I was downstairs like outside like ordering a smoothie whatever oh that I was like hell no so I go back up the gym walk up the stairs I

I'm looking for him. I'm like, hell no. What? Really? Oh my God. My mom said this is like the Cuban thing because like all of a sudden I'm like so passive but then sometimes I can like really go for it. It's a very West Side Story. Yeah. Very West Side Story. I saw clips. Okay. I will watch it. Okay, you should watch it. I think it's about...

They're Cuban, right? I think she's Cuban. Yeah. Or Puerto Rican. Oh. Yeah. Similar. But the same area. Yeah. Same area. Yeah. They're feisty is what they are. Yeah. Okay. So I like go up looking for him and then I'm like, okay, don't see him. Go into like the locker room. I see him. The timing was wild because I guess he's just got out of the shower. So he was in just an undies. Oh no. And he starts making like small talk. He's like, oh, like, are you going to pride or whatever? And I was like, I heard you were talking shit. Yeah.

You did? I just went for it. And it was, all of a sudden he's like, oh, like, what are you talking about? And I was like, did you not just tell someone that I'm too chunky and too femme for you? And obviously he's like drops all, he's like in his locker, so he drops all his stuff. His AirPods go flying. He's like all flustered. He's like, oh, wow, I apologize. And I was like,

That accent was good. I was like, you know that like I may be a bigger guy, but like, you know, I can like lift three, four times more than you. And I was like, you're saying I'm too femme. You have a higher voice than me and a southern accent. You sound like a golden girl and you're a wannabe pop star. Like we are in the same bracket. Like we are not that different. You know, like you are not mask. You know what I mean? Yeah.

that I like went in that's very like end of the Barbie movie where everyone's just like applauding America Ferreira for that speech that was good yeah I was reading and then I was like you really need to humble yourself because you may have lost 20 pounds and you may be like skinny now but you are not like a fitness icon so you need to be careful who you talk about and do not speak on me again and then I walked out that's

So intense. It was fierce. Love you. I'm proud of you for that, but also very intense. It is. It is. And not very like me at all because I'm so like passive. I snapped in that moment. I think it was like...

And like it was for – it was for the chunky people out there who like people speak on out of pocket. Like first, I wasn't even putting myself out there for you to like reject in the first place. That's true. Like what's the point? There was never an invitation. You know what I mean? Yeah. Like I wasn't trying to get with you. There was no offer for you to even like – Say that. Yeah. And what did he – he said exactly – he said he's just a little chunky or what was the words? Yeah.

He said, you know, Oscar, he's a chunky one. He's got a fat ass, but he's too chunky for me. And he's too femme. I like the mask ones.

Right. Okay. So what part is more... Telling that to a straight guy that could care less. I know. What are you even talking about? What? Mask? Femme? What? Who cares? Like, yeah. And this guy also is 38 years old. Like, you're too old to be, like, acting like this. You know? Is he chunky? He had, like, a dad bod before, and now he, like, lost 20 pounds, and he's, like, just, like, skinny now. What celebrity would you relate him to?

God, I don't even know. Before, like, before his weight loss, he was almost like a little chunkier of a Jesse Tyler Ferguson, like the... Oh. Yeah. Okay. Yeah, so nothing's even like... Yeah, he needs to not be talking. Yeah. At all. If it was someone really hot that was saying this... Like Hassan or something. Yeah, if Hassan was like, he's chunky and too fat, I'd be like, you wait, like, period. You wait. Yeah, you know, but like, damn, someone ugly telling me this? No, no, no, no. Yeah, that's always the uglies. Always the uglies. It's the uglies. And the people who are

little fat themselves everyone who's called me fat has always been like a little fat themselves and you're just kind of like yeah okay like look at you so i had to stand up i think for the the chunky people and then i was like you know when you like you have your huge 80 pound weight loss you gotta remember where you come from like you can't oh no yeah you can i'm gonna be i'm gonna be you see me on tiktok but okay block me fatties you don't like the time i'm skinny i am block me

No, because I know people get like triggered by before and afters and I understand that and I get that, but I'll be posting before and afters all day long. I'll be the transformation like watch me. Like I don't know what the... My For You page is all transformations right now, just people getting super skinny, but I'm like, okay, it's going to be me. You're going to have your moment. But even when I lose my 80 pounds, I'm still going to be like one... What am I going to be? 163. Actually, that'll be the skinniest I've ever been in my adult life. That is teeny. Yeah, because like we always talk about during my touring days, I was 180 and I'm like, oh, that's pretty tiny then. So if I was 163, that's another 17 pounds down. That'd be like...

Yeah. I will be skinned. You'll be so skinny. Yeah. So it's going to happen. I mean, you know, slowly but surely. We had pizza last night. That was my sports day because I did do really good last week. So I was like, let's have a little pizza. You know what I mean? And it's only 207 calories. I keep saying this. It's only 207 calories for one slice. I had two slices. It's 600 calories. That portion control. Yeah. It's not bad. That's not what it's about. Yeah. Anyways. Because if you deny yourself, then you'll want to like, you know, go out more. This is the longest I've actually consistently like...

try to eat clean the majority of the time because usually I'm just like off of it I'm just like whatever I'll just have pasta or whatever but you know if I get off of it a little bit I get right back on it so I've been trying to do good anyways that's

Yeah. I was going to say, maybe he might have – and it sounds a little bit like a compliment. He says he's chunky. He says he's got a fat ass, which is kind of nice. You know what I mean? Okay. I'll take that one. But I think it was more so like I'm better than him because now I'm skinny or whatever. I don't know. It was very much condescending like, oh, I'm so out of his league, which is like –

We're not playing the same game. No. You know what I mean? If he's like an older, overweight Jesse Tyler Ferguson, definitely not. Like definitely not. No, no, no, no. Like that's crazy. Anyways, screw that guy. I know. But I would say like protect your peace sometimes. You know, if I was your therapist, I'd be like maybe don't go off – because it's like your peace that you're ruining for your day. I know, T. But I had to do it. I get it. And usually like I let so much stuff go. Like I'm not confrontational at all. Yeah.

Oh, but I was just like so ready to scrap. Especially like what I – I'm like a child of Bad Girls Club. I love those moments. But it also taught me you can't just like run your mouth willy-nilly. Like you have to be very like specific. Otherwise, you get hit or whatever. That's what I'm saying. Yeah. Oh, right. You don't think he would have punched you out or anything? I could take him out 100%. If he like hit you, you would be able to – He would be knocked out. But I don't want you to fight. I don't need you to get physical. Oh.

I think me just, like, coming up to him, like, he was, like, so just shook by that because he wasn't, like, expecting, like, a confrontation. Like, if it was, like, a Hassan, I wouldn't, like, you know... Right. He would whack me hard. Yeah, yeah, yeah. So I thought, like, I would go up to him and, like, what are you talking... You know, but... Yeah, you were assessing the situation. Yeah, like, I can pick and choose. I run away. For sure, though, I run away. I'm the Tana in this one. I'm the flight because it's just, like... I don't know. It's not even, like... That's not even a part of my piece. I'm just, like, I don't want to get hit. I don't want to get... I don't know. People be wild in these days. You know what I mean? Yeah, that's true. Like...

I think I just like pick and choose. I knew that I could, if anything happened, I could take him on. But he's also kind of like whack. So like nothing, it would never come to that. He's just corny. So it's like, yeah. I mean, that was, that's random and so weird and out of pocket, especially at 38, like you said, like, what are you doing? Yeah, too old to be. It must be that age because Tati was 38 when she made her first drama getting video. I love that you related it to Tati.

wait at 38 so maybe at 38 you like regress a little bit something snaps yeah you're kind of like you know what let me pick some fights because I'm almost 40 but I'm only 30 so I'm going to still like pick some fights with people I don't know because she picked fights with James and for no reason and was calling him names yeah I think and also maybe like a lot of

like, rooted in insecurity. You know, like, Tati definitely was. I'm sure he must be too, I guess. I mean, anyone who calls anyone fat is just, like, there's a – it's always an insecurity of either, like, they're just jealous because, like, not of, like, the way you look or anything, but even, like, that you can be so confident or you can be this or you're friends with this guy or whatever. And it's always, like, an insecurity thing when people make fun of your weight because there's no other reason. Like, there's just no other – there's no other time where you're just, like, this person's chunky. Like, what's the point of that? Yeah. Like –

That's what I – in general – I mean, it happens so much with women. But I think that's why I, like, love and relate to women so much because that happens to them. But also it's, like, very much in, like, in the gay community too. Like, it's all, like – Really? Yeah. Like, there's the whole, like – That's so weird. The motto, like, no fats, no fems or whatever. Like, on the dating apps, it's, like, the guys will put, like, in their little bio, no fats, no fems. I'm, like, okay. Well, that was always me. So I was, like, damn. Are you fem? What do you consider you fem? I think – I mean, compared to, like, a really –

I don't know who – I'm trying to think of an example. Colton Underwood, do you know him? He's like – he was on The Bachelor. Like he's more like – he's like tall, like more masculine. Like everyone thought he was straight forever, so. Oh, I see. So if you're like straight passing, you're the mask one? Yeah, yeah. Because I don't see if I'm at all – because you don't even like to like – when we dress up, I always want you to like cross dress or something like that. You don't like to do anything. Yeah, I think there's like – it's like a spectrum. I'm definitely in like the femme category. That's why he was also – the guy was also femme. That's why I think I was extra like –

During Pride Month, they're going to come for another gay who's in the same category as you. We don't need gay on gay hate. We don't. Why do they have that? But that's like girls on girls. You're right. It's very that. It's like they just come for their own. It's like, can you chill? I've had a lot of good like gay experiences this month so far, though, which is good. What kind? Like supportive. I got some great gay experiences. Like after last week, Austin's show, who is like Hassan's gay, DM'd me and was like, hey, like I heard you talking about me. Like I'm a big fan. And it was so nice. Aww.

And like. We love that. And he's like. Yeah. Like he's good representation for like the twunk community. Okay. Because he's like hot. He's ripped. And then he's also like nice. I was like wow. Like you are a good example for it. We need more of that. We need more of that. Yeah. I don't like that. Yeah. I don't like the gay and gay hate. No. I'm glad I'm seeing more like. Support. Yeah. Especially from him. Because also like I was thirsting after her song for like two hours. So. Right. And that's his straight man. Yeah. So he wasn't like being like don't come for. He loved it. Don't come for my position. Yeah. I.

think the worst gay on gay hate and I don't think it's unwarranted I don't even know if it was because he was gay but you remember that show the real gay friends of WeHo oh yeah and everyone all the gays came for that so hard they were like so pissed and then Todd was like can we all like be supportive and put more gays out there in the media and everyone's like no and then it got cancelled

kind of iconic though I kind of love that they had that much power because I remember it was like such a big thing it was after RuPaul's I think it was after the Dracos it was the Dracos that I watched the season 15 or something it was yeah the sugar and spice season yeah shout out because that was my favorite because they did me for a snatch game but I was like I remember because that show would come on after and I'd watch it and it was kind of a trash show it was like not really that good but at the same time I kind of get what they were saying it's like you know

one gay show is, like, gonna help other gay shows come through, you know what I mean? Yeah, I think the problem was Todrick in that one. Always comes back to Todrick. He was, like, it's almost like if a, first of all, like, they took away the drag race time slot, like, they made the show, like, shorter to make room for that show to promote it, so people were already annoyed from the jump, so that's, like, working against them, but then also Todrick is just kind of, like,

He's very controversial. You either, like, hate him or you tolerate him. I love Todrick's, like, content. I love Todrick. I love that he's a theater boy. And he was, like, really nice to me. We did a collab. Like, really nice. I always thought he was so cool. I was, like, a fan of his. But, yeah, like, the Colleen post he did, like, in defense of her was wild. Because it's, like, again, you can be friends with people that are problematic. But, like, if they're actually hurt people, like, maybe just be quiet about it online. You know, don't be, like, ruffling feathers. Has he been out doing stuff since then? Or is he... He had...

like gigs booked like I remember like the last time we talked about him was he was like started a GoFundMe for his family and like the Colleen's like it was around Colleen's birthday or so that was a while ago yeah or his birthday Colleen was there I think that's what it was so maybe like a month or two ago right he had like a big party but then I was asking for money yeah he also was like

I think it's like in Shrek the musical or something. I think it's like the donkey or something. Okay, work. Yeah, work. Anyways, I like Todrick, but yeah, I just feel like it's like the JoJo thing. It's like, hi, I mean, you can't like just be problematic after problematic when people have been hurt. You know what I mean? You can't just like say stuff willy nilly, but. Yeah, and that's other things like JoJo performed at Pride and like.

LA Pride. Yeah. She's been doing the game. Like she's done maybe like three prizes now. She's the gay icon I guess. I'm sad. She's like very iconic. Maybe she could buy my purse. I'll sell it for $3.50 to her. And then we'll forgive you, JoJo. Literally. I can go on the podcast. We'll hash things out. Live though. No edits. Get anything.

Oh, man. When you give someone edit control, which we always give our guests, it's just kind of the, you know. Although JoJo lets a lot fly. She really does. I don't know if she would have anything edited out. She's like, it's all good. That's like me, though. JoJo's like, everything's fine. And then you're like, oh, I guess I should edit that out. Because she spills a lot of tea. Yeah, I want to just spill some tea on her. Yeah, but she's another one. Like, she talks so much and she's so, like...

I can't. I'm trying to think of like a more PC word than annoying, but I can't. Right, right. It's just annoying. You know what I mean? Yeah, yeah. She knows. She knows. And like she does it on purpose. Yeah, of course. That's the one thing that bothers me about her though because she had like the whole thing at Pride where she was like drinking her tequila and then she was talking about like online people like giving her hate or whatever. But I'm also like –

It's not like you are just trying to live your life as demure as possible. Yeah, right. You're doing it on purpose. Yeah, that is annoying. If you know what you're doing, don't be like, why does everyone come for me? I have so much hate. I deal with so much hate all the time. But she did kind of eat because someone was homophobic against her. She was like, this one guy was calling me a he, but I have a bigger dick than him, and I get more girls than him. I'm like, okay, you kind of ate with that. When you get homophobes, yeah, tea, but...

What did he do? He left her a comment, like, calling, basically misgendering her, calling her a guy or something like that. Yeah. Maybe it was autocorrect. You know what I mean? Like, the changes, I don't know. I don't know.

Because I don't think she's male presenting. Is she? I don't think so either. I guess maybe because like she's almost like draggy almost. Like she's so. Oh, okay. So maybe it was something like that. Like a conservative. I don't know. Yeah, we have no room for homophobia. Yeah. Even for JoJo, like yeah. Yeah. Like I may have my qualms with JoJo, but if you're homophobic towards her, then. Absolutely not. Yeah, I got her back. Yeah. No, same. For sure. We always have that. Yeah. Can you just dislike a gay person without being homophobic though? Yeah, of course. Same with like.

like, having problems with, like, women, you know? Like, I obviously, like, I would consider myself a feminist and, like, I, like, support girls way more than men. Yeah. But there's some girls that I'm just, like, like a J-Lo or, like, a Colleen. I'm like, I can't have your back. I don't think J-Lo and Colleen are in the same category. Oh, no.

What did J-Lo do? I mean, J-Lo's not hanging out with, like, 13-year-olds in Dublin, Ireland. I guess so. But, I mean, she's... Asking them to send her underwear. Yeah, you're right. You're right. You're right. But reputation-wise, I don't know. Okay. Well, reputation era. They're coming back. Yeah, poor J-Lo. She's been struggling, though. I kind of feel bad for her. You know... Everything's just going to shit.

Now it's like, because I'm not like a very like dog, like I hate a dog pile in general. But JLo was hard because like, I've like witnessed like the. The horribleness. Yeah. Yeah. But it's also like, okay, like you always talk about like paying the karmic debts or whatever. I'm like, oh, I think we've reached. She's doing it. We've reached the max of like. They're selling their house. They're selling their house.

It's like it's a whole thing. Yeah. The tour. The tour canceled album flop movie flop. Now like divorce. Allegedly. It's like, OK, I think she's there. The karmic. Welcome to flop a truck. A truck. Tropical. Someone said that in my TikTok today. I love that. They're like, welcome to flop. Tropical. I think it was. OK, well, welcome to flop. I don't know what I was going to say.

Flop Tropica. Speaking of Flop Tropica, you still have your Teletubbies on. I'm surprised. I thought that was going to come off. It's comfortable? Surprisingly very comfortable. Do you know what Flop Tropica is? Flop Tropica. No, it sounds like, I mean, it's an era, right? It's an era? It's somebody's flopping era. It's a flopping era. I like that one. But what were you going to say? Sorry, I cut you off a bunch of Teletubbies.

No, just surprisingly very, you know, that tight on the neck, very thin fabric. Slay all day. It is pretty good. I can't wait for Malibu to see me wearing this. Yeah. She's going to love it. I know we've been wearing all the Teletubbies stuff because they sent it to us. So yeah, that's good. She's going to love it. Aw, little Malibu baby.

Flop Tropica. Welcome to Flop Tropica. That should be the name of our podcast. I do love it. Yeah. I did see another TikTok. It was like, you're America's Got Talent audition. And it was like the judges of Flop Tropica critiquing her or something. They kind of are. Howie is mayor of Flop Tropica for sure. That's such a slay. We watch America's Got Talent now. And every time we watch it, I always remind Moses, I was on that.

on that it was pretty good actually i can't even watch it because it is actually so cringy like i actually just can't watch i don't think i ever watched it i watched it once but yeah it's one of those things where it's so hard don't they like buzz like they actually like immediately i don't do that anymore they don't do four buzzers for anyone everyone's like so nice now and simon's so nice everyone's so nice oh my god they really were they were all bitches but uh except for howard stern of course he was nice but everyone else was annoying i just don't like any

any of them. What did you say you were again? You were like a data analyst or something? What was your title? It was something computer related. Yeah, it probably was. Computer programmer. Computer programmer, yes. I always changed my occupations on Ellen. I was a waitress on America's Got Talent. I was computer programmer. That was a wild one. I wonder why I said that.

I don't know. It was so cringy. Everything about that was cringy, but you know, shout out. That was good. Well, I mean, you did invent the selfie stick, so. Oh yeah, that was to tell the truth with Betty White. Yeah. Oh yeah. I don't know what occupation on that was either. They asked you, I don't know. I just made up stuff. It's like, whatever. What would you say it is now? Would you still make it up if you went on a show? Would you say like, podcast? Yeah, because I don't want

you just say like influencer but maybe now they would let you yeah because on all the shows they would never let me say it they're like you can't you have to like have an occupation and I was like okay so you just like make up stuff so if I went on now I would be like I am host personality I could say that if I was on a show just make up something I don't know I'm like

I don't know. I guess people are like activists. I could be like a gay rights activist or something. You know? What is it called? Those nonprofits. Like I'm a nonprofit. You know? You're a proud Birkin owner. No, not if I'm on a game show. If I'm on something where I'm supposed to be humble and I'm supposed to be like a citizen, I need to be like... You know what I mean? Yeah. Right? Or what are those called? Civilians. Civilians. Normies, as you call them. Wait, normies. I do call them normies. But there's... I feel like... Okay, well, anyways...

I want to talk about the Traders casting, but I don't know if that's exciting. I will say this, though. Sam Asari is not allowed to talk about Britney Spears on the Traders. By the way, I'm not on the Traders. This is like... Hopefully, like, call me right now and be like, could you come in and fly in? Like, you know how they do mid-season. Yes, and I did see a rumor with the Traders cast that, like...

Someone who's been covering the show has been said that they're pretty sure there's going to be like mid-season like additions because they said the cast seems a little too like small right now or something. It does seem small and very boring. So just help me – like I'm ready to go in. My C-section scar is completely healed. I can do everything. I can put my feet up. I can jump off cliffs. I can do everything. I would love to go in. I can definitely jump off a cliff. No problem. I would love to go in mid-season. And I think it could happen because right now I'm like, wow, they didn't cast me. But –

They didn't cast me, but like I could. You know what I mean? Okay, here's the thing. It's boring. The cast is boring. No one knows who anybody is. Sam Asghari is like the one I knew, right? But you know him as Britney's ex. He's even labeled as like Britney's ex. But now he's not allowed to talk about her. I don't know if you saw that, but like he can't mention Britney Spears on the show. So I'm like they're literally just having civilians on this episode if he can't talk about Britney Spears because what else is he going to talk about? Doesn't make any sense. Everyone else is like reality show star except for Zac Efron's brother, which why is he on? Also, I'm not complaining. I kind of live for that. I'm only rooting for Zac Efron's brother. What's his name? Dylan? Dylan. Yeah, Dylan Efron. Was he on?

anything? He was just on that...

Zach reality show down to earth was Zach. Oh, I thought so the one where he's like exploring the world the traveling one Okay, so he was on a reality show. Yeah, I mean technically though. Okay, right, but I was on somebody big brother Yeah, you know I think I could be a big brother. They have a lot of contestants. I was on big brother Uh-huh. You know what I mean? Like I don't understand Tom Sandoval I'm like just you're on pump like yeah, he's probably the biggest name which is the saddest thing about this cast is like the only one that's like the big name right now I think that's so lame

Everyone else I don't know. Oh, shout out Gabby Windy though. I thought she was a podcaster. I was like, oh, okay, podcaster. And someone was like, oh, you said she was in The Bachelor. I didn't even know. Bachelorette. Was she The Bachelorette? Yeah, Bachelorette season 19. Oh.

I thought she was just a podcast host. And I was like, that's everything that she's podcast host. But even, you know. Yeah, the cast, I was kind of, especially at season two was like the cast was so stacked because you have so many like reality, like legends, like, you know, infamous, like so good at the game. This one, I would say like there's a handful of people I'm like excited about. Like obviously Bob the Drag Queen. Your tweets, by the way. It was like, Santa's going, I'm not watching. And then like five minutes later, okay, I'm watching again. Bob the Drag Queen. Because I didn't want to say they were all flop topics.

because I was like, okay, Bob the Drake who kind of slays. Love Bob the Drake. Yeah. And I would love, I can't wait, I'd like want to go on there so bad just to like be with him. Like I would love that. Yeah. But everyone else flops for sure. Yeah. Bob. Boston Rob, I'm sorry. He, I remember him when I was like 10 years old. Okay, that guy has to be like 16.

Like how is he on this show? Like how is he still relevant? Like he was on Survivor literally when I was a kid. Like I remember that. Yeah, he was on the older season. I do love like a reality vet. Like Brittany Haynes, she was on Big Brother. I forget what season. I think I might have been in high school or something though when she was on it. But she's so like – she's kind of like a Janelle. She's friends with Janelle from last season. Okay, work then. She's blonde. She's blonde. She's a girly. Like she's funny. She's sarcastic. And she's like a pop culture like girly. Like she's in it. Okay. So I'm excited for her. I'm excited for Bob. Yeah.

I think. No one else. I think that's pretty much it. Caroline from She Was On Survivor recently. She was like funny on there. She's not a girly. I think all the Survivor people need to go. I'm sorry. No one watches Survivor. It's old. It's outdated. Well, Parvati last season. I love Parvati. She was Survivor. I know you love her. I can't stand her. I could not stand her on the show. I was like, how do you like her? Because you're like, you would love her. She's iconic. She's a queer icon. No. Okay. Well. Now you have to like her. Still don't like her. She's a competition. So.

Sometimes I'm in competition with other queer icons like JoJo and stuff because I want to be the one. And I feel like I'm not the one. I never got invited to Pride. We didn't have a float. We could have had a float. Do you know what I mean? I was surprised we did not have a float. It was very just choice coded to have a float. Yeah. I don't understand. Maybe next year now that you put it out there. And like, again, the pregnancy. I feel like a lot of people kind of just like left you alone. I know. I could have performed.

performed I was already gave birth you know what I mean like but now you proved it because you're doing like the splits and everything so yeah um I don't like any of the survivor people they should all go is there any housewives on this season yeah um Dorinda from New York no um she's fun I do like Dorinda we love but um I haven't seen like the real housewives of Dubai there's someone from there what um no he

Yeah, it's a mix. Bob Harper from The Biggest Loser. I was like, oh my God. The one that just yells at all the fatties. I would be triggered there. Oh my God. He'd call me chunky for sure. Yeah, I want to see what you look like now. Let's go with that. You're sure. He was so triggering on that show. Oh my God. He wasn't as bad as the woman trainer, not to be like that lady. Jillian Michaels. Couldn't stand her. She was so mean. She was so mean for no reason. But Bob was also very mean and I don't like him either, so.

Yeah, it's an interesting. Are they all fit? What happened to the fatties? Because there were some Chunkos last season and I love that because I remember when MJ, not to say she's Chunko, but like in a cute way because, you know, I'm a Chunko too. It's like I was inspired by her when she like, what is it? Ziplined? Oh, yeah. At the end. Yeah. I was like, oh, yeah.

Oh, they're able to do that. Like, I want to do it. The mom, too. Who was the mom that was a traitor? She was, like, came in mid-season. I don't know her name from the boat show, the yacht show. Oh, shit, I forgot her name, too. But she, like, went off that cliff. Yeah. Even, like, Sandra. She was on Survivor, but she's, like, a mom now. She's older. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Okay, so

Okay. So all those, I was like, oh, this is so inspiring. But there's no one like them, right? Like middle-aged, like not super fit. I don't know. I guess Dorinda from Real Housewives, she's older. She's definitely like middle-aged. But she's skinny. But yeah, she's not like, she's like very petite. She's definitely petite. Yeah. I don't like that they don't have like normal people. Nikki Garcia, she's a freaking wrestler. She's ripped. Yeah.

Yeah. So they're all just like fit hot people. Yeah. You're right. Yeah. Okay. I'm over it. Yeah. And I just don't like Tom Sandoval or Sam Asghari. So. No. Both of them ultimate traitors. They should be out right away. I would eliminate them right

right away yeah me too the second I got there I'd be like you're out I don't care you're an actual traitor I don't care if you can't mention Brittany I would tell everyone I was like I heard he's a freaking traitor you guys like we need to get him out I would tell everyone this is a piece of trash man like get him out like everybody production Alan Cumming like everybody I'd be like do you know what he did to Brittany like are you kidding me like played her okay you suck okay you left her in the time of need what happened to her oh I couldn't

They didn't cast me. I really am. They sent me a freaking passport and a bag and a Polaroid. But the actual process was happening while you were giving birth. Okay, but they're probably filming it now. I can go over there right now if they call me. We can get a private jet. Boom, we're over there all together. But there's a process that happens before bringing you over. Well, I'm telling them now.

They don't need to screen me. I've been on reality shows. You know, they do like psych tests. I've done those already. They don't need to do that. We'll get a private jet. We'll spend all the money they would pay me for the show to go over there, bring the whole family over. I won't be away from anybody. Then we can go explore the castles of Scotland. Scotland.

Although Ireland, I'm telling you, Ireland is beating my Scotland. Really? Yeah. I think Irish people are taking over the world. Okay. Niall. Niall. Nicola. Nicola. Ayo. Tabiri. Barry Keoghan. Barry Keoghan. T. He's T. Wig. Wig.

Did you watch Please, Please, Please? Of course I saw the Please, Please, Please. Oh my God. I've watched it 50,000 times. I actually super incorporated my movie number one at the moment as far as get. I am so obsessed with her, her body, her look, her attitude. I did see a TikTok of someone saying she wasn't very nice. Like there was a person that waited on her. Really? Really?

I don't know. She waited on celebrities. No, this girl does a series and she always talks about celebrities that were nice and celebrities that weren't. And she said Sabrina was just like, where's my booze? She didn't even say hi to them. She's like, where's my booze? She got tables for them, I think. She takes care of celebrities or something. And she was like, whatever. Which I know all the comments were just like, I don't want that to be true. And I don't know. But I don't know.

I don't know. Whatever. But it sounds more like Corky. Like, where's my booze? Yeah. Like what? Like Corky. Corky. Like somebody going, I'm cool. I'm going to get drunk. Where's my booze? Where's the booze? Maybe that's what she was like. Yeah, I was going to say, because that is very Sabrina. Like, she is like very like sarcastic. That's true. I don't know. I've only had good experiences with her and I... Oh, right. You know her. You've been to the next door. Yeah, I've seen her twice. Like the two times I've like...

Like, met her. She was, like, really, really nice. I mean, she was less famous back then, I guess. But the two times I met her, she was really nice. I...

Like the people who I've worked with in radio who have like known her forever, I've only said like really, really nice things about her. So maybe that girl was lying. You liar. Or maybe like people have like, you know. Different experiences. Yeah. Maybe she's already drunk. Yeah, exactly. Yeah. Or something they expect too much. I'm like, this is not a personal, like she's there to eat and drink. Yeah, that's true. That's true. It's not about the waiter at that moment. Like sometimes she's just there to eat. Yeah, I've seen people call people rude for just like nothing.

not having a conversation with them. Yeah. Well, you know, they want to keep it going. Okay, we're back on Team Sabrina. I love Sabrina Carpenter. That video, okay, because the girlies, the pop girlies are out this weekend because like Ariana Grande too. The music videos were so iconic. So good, yeah. They're just good music videos again. I think Octopus said this. I think he was just like, the music videos are back. Watch, he has both of them on next week. Literally. Sabrina Carpenter and Ariana. And Ariana got more views but I think

Sabrina slays more I think Sabrina ended up getting more views like as of now really I think there was like a three million difference no I think because Sabrina's was like the berry element and like she is kind of like the it girl right now but I loved both like Ariana's was so good she looked so good she had the pen badge the cat woman she ate well I didn't really get the cat woman theme though why that

I think she... It's just, like, kind of camp, I think. She just liked it. And, like, the... And the Catwoman is, like, the villain, right? And she was... The whole song is about, like, the villain arc. Like, the boy is mine. She wrote it, like, to be... To play, like, the character of, like, the... Of, like, the reputation, right? Like, I see a man. I'm gonna get him. Like, she wrote from that...

she's like if you think that this is what i am then i'll write a song from this that's what she said about it yeah that's kind of like maybe this is who she is if you want to think this i'm gonna write it but also why would you spend that much energy if that's not you could you imagine i'm like if you want to think like i don't know i'm racist i'm gonna write a whole song about it it's like i wouldn't do that to make it seem like okay you guys are right let me write this like that's weird i love like a kind of like bad girl like because i think ariana too is like very very sweet kind of like taylor like she played like the bad girl for like a song like reputation era or whatever but it wasn't that bad i was like i went

take your man. True, I guess. She should have had Ethan Slater in the video just like Sabrina did. Yeah, why isn't Ethan Slater playing your love interest? He should have been on the nose. I don't know. Barry Keoghan with Sabrina is like, that's what you should have. If that's your man, this is your man, claim him. Like, claim him in the video. Instead, you have sexy ass pen badge and he'd be like, like, oh, why don't you do that with Ethan Slater? And she copied you. I think she got the idea. I just think she copied

I think she got the idea to use him and the whole you. He said that. He's like, you were the one that started the pen badging phrase. No, like the idea of you and all that, like being, you know, the obsession. So now suddenly Ariana is now suddenly like all obsessed with him and you and that story. I don't think so. I know. Yeah, I think you're right. I was like, that was my obsession. Just when we started this podcast, it was my obsession. So I think she has been listening since day one. Yeah.

the same thing. Barry Heoghan and Sabrina too, I'm just gonna put it out there, they shot at the same bank where they're robbing the bank as my music video, Red Flags. Yeah. Check out Red Flags, same concept. There's a criminal. It's based loosely on Britney Spears' criminal but I think Sabrina's is loosely based on ours because we did the same thing with the bank. We go in and we rob and all this stuff like that with the gun. I really think so and I had the blonde. I was, you know, anyways, just saying. I think it might have been a little bit inspired by me. No,

No, it was so good. But I've also been saying Barry Keoghan's been hot since the beginning, since Salt Burn. I mean, everyone's been saying that, but everyone's like, now I get it. And I was like, but we've all been seeing it. He's hot. He's hot.

I'm with Oscar. Yeah. He's like, he said, this is the most unattractive. I was like, oh, okay. So we've been looking at the rodent men. Right. We'll talk about the rodent men. He's like, of all the rodent men, he's the most unattractive. I was like, no. So I did not coin this term. I think it's a little derogatory, but I think it's also kind of nice. The rodent men is the Timothy Chalmé, Mike Feist, Josh O'Connor, Barry Keoghan. There's one more that I don't really care for that's in the rodent men. I actually wrote it down too. Let me see if I can find it. Why didn't I write down rodent men?

Barry, Josh, Timothy, oh, Jeremy Allen White is the other rodent. Oh, yes, yes, yes. Yeah, so I don't know who coined this term. I saw it all over my Twitter. Most of all the rodent men, he's the worst. But I think Barry Keoghan is the hottest of all of them. I think he's so hot. We're going to cosplay. Next week, clock it. If you want to dress up too, we're going to cosplay the Sabrina pink fur coat, Barry Keoghan. I got the car coming, the Dodge. You know, I'm glad mom liked doing it. Because her little Polaroid's

them. Oh my god, they were so sexy. Yeah, and she had the yellow fur coat. I'm looking for that. So, anyways, stay tuned. Fashion Nova actually has a yellow fur coat on their site and says, coming soon. I'm like, can you get this now? Because this is the exact, yeah, this is the exact replica of Fashion Nova. But, um...

I think Barry Cuban's the hottest of all the rodents. And I love Mike Feist. He was an old theater boy. I love him, but Barry is... I mean, his wink, his smile, his dimples. He's a good actor. Like, he was really giving in the video, for sure. Giving! I could see it. I could see why people would be into it. It just isn't... Not your type. It still doesn't click for me. No. He was such a good actor. He's, like, an Academy Award winner. And I'm like, how... I love that he's doing this, like, beating up the guys in the back and stuff like that. And then you watch...

no offense but you see then you see Ben Badgley and you're just like wow that guy's a way better actor like very human like slate and that's I don't know I don't think it's a competition but right he's so good the whole like acting as the mayor I'm like you don't fit the character why is this happening right now like Moses reading Ben Badgley's acting no

you don't get the character because that music video was odd it was odd the choices that were made I didn't love I love Ariana I didn't love I love the pen badge I love the U I disagree I just think he's perfect for it and he is oh god he is like gorge shoe what are your thoughts on it on the Ariana one the fashion I loved it I love the hair I love the dark hair Ari like the shorter kind of like your length almost right yeah like shorter this is supposed to be Taylor but it's giving Anna Wintour it's giving Betsy Johnson you know but it's fine

I like Ari with the short hair. I also love that aesthetic because it reminds me of her older Dangerous Woman where she had the bunny ear mask or whatever. I don't know what that is, but... It was one of my favorite Ariana albums. Okay. So it kind of gave me that. I don't know. I love that... But I also love comic book movies. So it was kind of comic book-y, noir kind of... I don't know. I thought it was such a slay. And I...

I'm a sucker for Ariana. Like, I really do love her. More than Sabrina. Sabrina is better. No, I love Sabrina too. Yeah. I think my like – what was it? Like my Apple Music like wrapped or whatever. It was like Taylor, Olivia, then Sabrina. Sabrina was my third last year. Yeah. That's crazy. So she's up there. Yeah. The Ariana was good. I think because I saw the Please Please Please the night before and I was so obsessed with that and I just thought they were so hot. They gave so much chemistry. I was just like –

Ariana, I love that she had... I mean, I love Penn Badgley, but he's super married. And not only that, he's super against... He didn't even want to do any lovemaking scenes in You because he's like, I want to respect my wife. So then Ariana casting him, I'm like, that's kind of wild. I don't know. I think it made sense for the concept. In You, he's the one that's stalking and it reverses it and makes the woman being the one stalking him. I think that's fun. And like...

Her first music video or second one had like Evan Peters. So I like the – Is he married? I don't think so. No, he's just – he has a girlfriend but he's not married. But I like the cinematic like universe that Ariana is building. OK. Like the little like killers. Yeah. Yeah.

be like girl boys yeah I was just like oh this guy is so like I don't want to do anything sexual and then at the end she's like straddling him and they're like about to kiss and I was just like um this is like a little like what what happened to like I don't want to like kiss anybody but it was like super tension I think he was more like full like nude sex scene is what he didn't want to do though like I don't think like romance like that was like pretty PG-13 you know I don't know if my bed was pen bed

I was like, I want to do a music video. I'm like, I don't know about that. Like, let's just, you know, wait. Especially knowing what we know. That's what I'm saying. It's like that little bit. I don't know. I'd be scared. If I was Ethan Slater, I would be shaking in my boots. That too. You lose them, how do you get them? Chloe, all of them. You know what I mean? Like that, I mean, it's sad, but it's true. You know what I mean? Because you can only go based on someone, how they've acted in the past. Right. And so it's just like, I don't know.

don't know she probably didn't expect her man to go on to Wicked and then leave with Ariana Grande you know what I mean I don't know I just I don't know

Yeah. Maybe we don't know the full story. Yeah. I guess just because they came out the same day, it probably just makes it harder. Because I think music videos in general, I mean, look at yours. It's not like all yours are like. Oh, I wanted them all to be. I always cast people I thought were hot. I was always like on Tinder. I literally, I think my freaky one, I think I found him on Tinder. I think I was like, do you want to be in a music video? Like, I think that's what it was. And he was like in a Britney video. Yeah. I always was like, you know, that's my mind. I'm like. But ours, like the shape of water, all those, you know.

Yeah, since I met you, I never had a love interest. That's what I'm saying. You were always my love interest. I had you in like three videos. Bella, where the hell have you been, loca? They should do that too. Because I do, that is true. Because it is like acting, yeah, but I don't know. If I'm like with you and then I'm like, oh, I really want, like who do I love right now? I don't know. Mike Feist to be my love interest. I don't know. It's kind of weird. I don't think I would, you know. And this is like an actual acting where I'm doing like a movie with like a director. But like if it's my music video where I get to cast, I think it's kind of weird. Right?

I don't know. I disagree. I think it's hard because comparing it to Sabrina, that has her actual boyfriend in it. But I think music videos in general, it's pretty common for artists to not cast their own person in there. Taylor Swift has never had a music video with one of her boyfriends or whatever. Britney always did. Britney had K-Fed. Britney had Larry in Criminal Video. She had Sam in Slumber Party. Yeah.

she always had her boyfriend i can say maybe it's just different for everyone i don't know i don't i didn't think about it like that like that i don't know either personal but um i love it yeah please please more catchy i love both i'm like yeah i think it's unfortunate everyone all the girlies are releasing at the same time why yeah so why do you feel like it puts them in competition with all like everyone but i don't i'm i don't know you can do like both yeah did billy i should come out with one someone

when someone else had Billie Eilish had a new one yeah she had a music video like the day before oh yeah I didn't see it and that's not a shade I haven't even seen it I honestly didn't see it either and I love Billie's album yeah but I haven't seen the music video but also she's more like low key with her visuals like she had a music video for lunch it was like I'm gonna eat that girl for lunch oh and you would think maybe it'd be like kind of like as cinematic as the other ones but it was more like

early 2000s, like, white background, like, almost like iMovie, like, the filters and stuff. It was, like, low-key. Low budget. I think she was just being, like, more chill about it, you know? We love an economical queen. Yeah.

queen yeah it's here she's like we're gonna just give people something that's not over the top that doesn't cost a million dollars to produce I like the million dollar ones I like the story ones and that's why I do like both of them they had good stories and they had good like acting you did see in the Ariana one you loved when they break the music and it's just like quiet and it's like when she's like doing the cat scratch she breaks it and then you see him in the soap it's like the old Michael Jackson music videos yeah he did say that and it's kind of cool it's kind of like a movie I just

think it's still wild if you don't want to be known as something you're like actually I'm going to write a song about it I think it's fierce I love it I love when it's like when everyone is like saying your one thing it's like fine you think I'm a bad girl I'll show you bad girl yeah I prefer the Jojo one over it

one the karma that one no one was saying like oh JoJo's like you know no one was calling her like a kiss like killer clown yeah no one was calling her that she just kind of went for it you know she wanted to do that I like that too like just brand yourself like no one's talking about it but I'm gonna just I you know what I never had and I like I've always thought about this era I think Moses knows I really want a mime era I want a time where I'm just like a mime and

A-I-M-J-I. My A-I-M silver username. Are you a mime? My first one was, this is so random, Super Silver Mime. I don't know where it came from. Were you trying to be a mime? I don't know. I was a mime for Halloween once. Maybe that's why. We could be in our mime era together. I would, oh my, wait. How do we not speak though? That would be the hardest part for us. Right, how do we do a podcast as mimes? That would be hard. I wanted to fully commit to that too. I mean, it's so easy. You guys just sit there and make faces at each other. And Jimmy inserts...

The captions? Yeah, captions in between. So he's really... Okay, easy. He's the one doing the podcast. I guess you're not a mime. You could talk. It just becomes Moses' podcast. Iconic. I'll be the one. Like, I'll have a piano here and I'll be like... A musical? Oh, okay.

Yeah, because there's always a music in the background as you guys do stuff. Really? With the mimes? Because it got to set, I guess it'll set the tone, you know what I mean? Like if it's funny, Moses can play like a quirky little music. Oh, okay. Yeah, that's what I was thinking more. It's like vaudeville. Okay, mixed with mimes. I like it. I think that's a slay for sure. Back from a snack break. Not that anyone would know because we have an editor, but...

Just in case you want to know, I needed chips. I was feeling lightheaded, so I'm sorry about the segment before. I was thinking about it while I was going to the bathroom. I was like, you know what? We don't know shit about Ethan Slater and his mom, and his baby mama, and his kid. You know, same thing with, we don't know anything.

anything. You know what I mean? The baby could be traveling with him to Coachella for all we know. Maybe he was in the trailer waiting for him. You know what I mean? We have no idea. And maybe the wife is a huge fan of Sabrina Carpenter like I am with Britney Spears and I'm like oh I'm so excited actually for you. We don't know. We don't know the situation. We have no idea. Same thing with Ethan. All of them. They're probably all great and everyone just tries their best as a parent really. You know what? The kid is they're going to be fine. They're going to be great because

They know their parents and that's great. And even if you don't know your parents, you turn out fine too. So it's okay. Yeah. Wow. Chip really will turn you around. Shout out. I was like, why was I being so – I was hungry. I was hungry. There you go. And I didn't have a chip.

I'm on my diet. I should have had a banana. I didn't know we had bananas. I was like, oh, there was bananas up there last. I almost got the Butterfinger. That probably would have been really good having a little sugar kick, but. I was, so I was listening to the Sabrina Carpenter song. Like I played it on, on whatever, YouTube app or something. In the break just now? No, earlier this morning when I was getting ready. Okay. And then it went on to, you know, it played all of them. It was like Billie Eilish and, and,

and Ariana Grande. And then a song came up, I didn't know who it was, and it was the most impressive song from all of them. - Wow, who is it? - It was Chappelle Rhone. I had no idea. - Oh, I thought he was gonna say Trisha Paytas. I don't know why I was like, "I think it was Trisha's song." - That we know.

What was the song? It was really surprising. Something with babe in the title. But the song, she's really like, good luck, babe. Good luck, babe. It was really impressive. Anyway, I had no idea about her music, but I heard that one song. And that was the one that stuck out to you. Chapel Row, we want you on the podcast.

so bad. We had our window and I think we missed it. I know. God, it always happens to us. We get the it girls. We were there. The girls like it, but then they just get too big. They get too popular. Yeah. Roll the clip of her saying that she wants me and Malibu to perform with her. Person I'm bringing mid-show.

to bring up the energy is Trisha Paytas featuring Malibu Barbie. I swear if she's on Therapist and not here, that would be my villain origin story. 100%. Therapist can take the Glenn Powells, the Tate McCrae's, whatever, but we were just so close to Chapel, so if she goes as Therapist,

It's over for us. Oh, it's over. That is it. We're going for Octopus. He's our enemy number one. He's the industry plant. He's the new Bobby Altaf where we're like, what? Even we don't get this. That's who we're going for. And the Ed Sheeran one. I think I was really like, oh my gosh. How do you get Ed Sheeran on a podcast? Who gets Ed Sheeran? Not even Zach Zane gets Ed Sheeran. Like, what the hell? He doesn't do anything. That's wild. That's actually wild. And I think he's a plant. I think he's a plant. There's no other way. Yeah.

other way you're getting those guests. Maybe they're cousins? They do look like each other. They have the same vibe. Well, his cousins was Sophia Range Gritchies. Sophia Richie Grange? Yeah. Yeah, she was just... She just had her baby shower girl?

I don't know. Like she had. No, she just had her baby. Yeah. But what was. It was like a baby welcoming. I don't know. Oh. It was a post baby. Really? A post baby? It's a birthday. Yeah. They should have birthdays. We celebrated Elvis' birthday. Yeah. You just had a birthday. Oh, yeah. Love that. And then the therapist was there at the. With. With.

Nicole Richie and Sophia. Yeah, he's connected. Yeah. And did you see how he had a clip go viral with Glenn Powell? Did you see it? Oh, about the flesh eating lotion? Yes. I was just like, my mom was on the thing about how the guy would... I just said this on our walk yesterday. I was like, yeah, this guy wanted to like eat her... Yes. He told this story on Therapist. Glenn said, not his sister, but his sister's friend...

went on a date with a guy and that was like super charming. They had a great night. They go back to his apartment and the guy tries to give the girl a massage and the girl started getting like weird vibes saying that something feels off. He started massaging her shoulders and everything just felt odd. So she like got out of there. Um,

And then her skin was like really irritated so she went to the doctor. Oh, that's what it was? Yes. I was like, who looked at her skin? Oh, she was irritated. It was like really like – Got it. Yeah. She had like a crazy rash and it was like itching. And he said that she went to a doctor that did a test on her skin and it –

Turns out it's a black market lotion that breaks down skin for human consumption. So it was like he was rubbing lotion on her to eat her. And he said that the doctor got the guy's address and they called the police and they went to the guy's house and he had several bodies in the house. Oh, I didn't hear that part. Yes. Well, this... What? This is...

There has been like some debunking. Okay. And it's kind of just like a myth that is like a really popular myth. And it's like, it's been going on for years. So as far as like, like people really dug to try to see if the story was real. Turns out it's not real. A news or something that happened. If someone finds like someone in LA have like girls bodies in there, like it would be a story. Jeffrey Dahmer, Netflix. Yeah. That's crazy. You're so right. I love how the celebrity's just lying. I know. Just making stories. I know. And it's like.

Like who, who is the origin, who like originated the lie? Like, was it the sister? Right. Like where did it, I don't know. But it's this big myth, like wise tale that's been going on for a long time. I didn't hear that part because the first part was kind of believable. I was like, oh,

That's like crazy that this guy would be doing that to people. But then the cops, right? Yeah, the cops are called and this and that. Okay, anyway. I was so excited about that story too because I was like telling my mom, I was like, what was this like? Oh my God, this is like a crazy thing. And now it gets spread and someone else will tell that story and it becomes their story. And that's how lies start. You just start...

believing them they just become truth along the way and uh according to snopes uh which is like a debunking like website um the story can be traced back to 2001 and it's been shared in various forms mainly via email um sometimes the story talks about a woman having sex with a necrophiliac and giving her an infection um and eventually over the years it evolved into a sexual or new sexual encounter with a cannibal so it's like this thing that's been that sounds horrible army hammer probably started maybe that's where he got his

his personality. He's just like, actually, I heard this story one time. It sounds quirky. I'm like, especially Glenn is just a nice, normal guy. You gotta bring something to therapists, I guess. You gotta give them some kind of story. Of all places.

Because Ed Sheeran gave some tea on Therapist 2, right? He was just talking. He was just, like, spitting. He was like, Olivia Rodrigo, like, great album. He was saying, like, everything he likes, dislikes. He said, like, all artists, like, want to compete and be number one. Like, no one's going to put out an album for it to, like, flop. Like, you know. Right, right. He was just, like, spitting for no reason. I kind of live for that. Yeah.

I mean, that's crazy. Why wasn't Octopus on the Aloe trip with Brooke? Because he's like Mr. Aloe. He's always there. Yeah, I don't know. He did repost something about him being on Ozempic, though.

What did he say? You just reposted it on TikTok. Oh, but what was the TikTok? The TikTok was like, oh, it was literally just a picture of him and it was like, octopus on Ozempic looks so good and he reposted it. Okay, it worked. So I was like, confirmed Ozempic. We were just talking about that in the break and I was like, good for everyone. Honestly, good for everyone on Ozempic. It was my dream to just get a miracle drug that just made me skinny and now that it's here, I'm resisting it and I don't know why. I'm just

on my own. I'm just trying to be healthy on my own. I'm just trying to be energetic because honestly, I don't mind me being thick. I really have come to terms with being thick. I would like to just be 163 pounds to get into the Givenchy boots. That's all I want to wear and then I don't, because 163 is not skinny. That's still considered fat to a lot of people but I would love to wear those boots. That's it. I am

I envision myself with that. I told you my dream of the Cybertruck, the boots, all of that. We'll get paparazzi. I do see the vision. I do see the vision. We'll go to Topanga to get our little Wolverine popcorn buckets and someone paparazzi. They will paparazzi. If I had a pink Cybertruck, like they would for sure. My Rolls Royce always got paparazzi. My G-Wagon got paparazzi. You know what's so funny? I always see so many like hate tweets about like Cybertrucks and stuff. Like everyone like hates them and like wants to like vandalize Cybertrucks or whatever. But I don't know.

They're cute. People are haters. I don't know. Maybe I'm just easily influenced because I did hate them until you said that they're cute. And then I was like, oh my God, you're right. I did too until I saw Kim Kardashian next to it. I was like, wow, she's tiny. Yeah. I think that was it. Like, seeing like a cute girl come out of it, I was like, oh, I see the whole vision. It's working. Whatever they paid her to promote it, I was like, it's working. I need a Cypher truck. Didn't he give like, Elon gave Katy Perry one too, I think. He did? I think so. Oh my God. Elon, give me one. Then I don't have to even lose 80 pounds if he just gives me one. That's true. Yeah.

I have to stay fat forever then. It's fine. You're not using fat anymore, remember? Oh, that's right.

Oh, yeah. You're chunky. You started it. You triggered the badness conversation. I was repeating what someone labeled me. Okay, I'll tell you the truth. When you texted me that, I did tell Moses. I feel like if you're married to someone, you should just assume they're going to tell their spouse. But that's what I'm telling you. Our lives are so mundane in a best way, in a good way. Our lives are very just simple and whatever. And I was like, oh, my God. Someone called Oscar chunky at the gym. We were ready to jump into the car and show up at the gym. We were like, what? That's what...

Moses gave me the insight that I told you. He's like, but maybe he meant it as a compliment. I was like, oh, maybe. So that's why I texted you that. You know what I mean? I just mean I don't know the lingo. Like, I don't know if that's one of the terms, you know? Yeah, maybe chunky was cute. Because there's so many, like, there's husky and this and that. Like, I don't know which one is husky. Husky's the worst. Husky's the worst. I do not want to be husky. But I did tell him that. But what was the point of me saying that I told you? Because there was something else to it. Oh, and then he did say, he's like, wait, but I thought we weren't talking about our butt. And I was like, well,

wow, somebody else in the gym that called him Chucky. So it's fine. But we were, that was our entertainment for the day. That was our news for the day. I was like, oh, okay. That's why I was kind of living for it. Cause like, you know, like you said, it was pretty like mundane, pretty like normal. We talked about other people. And this one I was like, finally have a tail. You know what I mean? It's not that serious. It's not that like, you know, it's not like the Tana Brooke story. It was serious. And I was very, I was like, this is our news. This is okay. Let me tell Moses like,

Let me tell you now. Yeah. But we had like did something for the plot. Yeah. Which I was like excited about. 2019 me. If we had this podcast 2019. I guess we'd both be like a little wild. Oh my God. Because that was my like wild era. We'd be canceled. You'd be canceled with me over and over again. I know. Yeah. It would be.

But you were, but you know what? That would have been such a good era for us because honestly, it could show growth. You know what I mean? You could have been there with me, but yeah. Anyways, that's good. I don't know if I was, I wasn't really problematic. I was just like. I think so. Me? Yeah, I think that's because you're confrontational. Like I wasn't, I was confrontational. I think that's problematic. I think if you're confrontational, it's problematic. I wasn't really the confrontational 2019. I was just more like.

I just like was more doing stuff for the plot. Oh my God. I did do – there's something I regret. I was just like sluttier in 2019 I guess. There's nothing wrong with that. No, there isn't. And especially for me, like I was just getting like zero, like 70% of my life and all of a sudden I was like skinnier and had options all of a sudden. Love that. But the one thing I always regret is I did – like I was saying yes to so many dates in 2019 and there was one I was just tired and didn't want to go out. So you would think like a normal person would be like, hey, sorry, I'm tired. Like I don't feel like going out.

Instead, I gone-girled myself. Like, I came up with this whole story. Ooh, I love. Oh, my God. I don't know why I did. I literally regret this to this day because it's just so, like, mean. Like, I don't know. I was like, okay, like, I need to come up with a story. So I came up with a story that I had blood drawn that day. And that, like, I got faint and I fainted. But I was like, okay, he's not going to believe this. I have to show it. So I was in the office. I went to, like, the little pen section. I got a red pen. I, like, snapped it in half so the ink was dripping. Okay.

I like poured it all over my arm and then I went to the first aid kit, whatever. And I got like gauze and bandage and wrapped my arm and like sent a photo of it. Oh my God. Which was like, why did I have to do all that? What the hell? I literally got it to stay. And the guy didn't even believe it. He was like, okay, bye. He was like, yeah.

I'm like, why did I do that? Like, I regret it to this day. It is. It's so out of pocket. I don't remember, like, faked an injury. Yeah, it's like, why? Like, I could have just said, like, hey, I'm not feeling up to it right now, you know? Yeah, literally. Or just not that you could ghost people. That's what I'm saying. Just not.

ghost somebody you don't even like the ghosting would have been more polite than like I think so that's what I'm saying ghosting is better that's crazy on both ends like he's probably like this guy is not well I was like still thinking about it I was like why did I do that every time I see like a gone girl meme I'm like what

Why did I Gone Girl myself? First time I've never seen Gone Girl. I thought it was someone who faked their own kidnapping. Yeah, she did. Oh. But you're – oh, you're faking your injury. Yeah. I've definitely faked it. I definitely have been told people I kidnapped before for sure. I mean I have been kidnapped but that's like when I was an adult. But when I was a kid, I used to say I was kidnapped. Oh, yeah. But I actually have been abducted as an adult. But that was more just out of like a strip club. Yeah.

I guess that's still abduction if it's out of a strip club, too. But that's interesting. That's... I was a little just... You should do that trend on TikTok where it's like, I remember when, I remember when I lost my mind. That'd be a good one. Oh, my God. Do you have the picture still? I was going to say maybe in my iCloud somewhere I have like the text screenshot. That was wild. That's actually kind of crazy. Yeah. Love that for you. I mean, that's 2019. That's the vibe I was bringing 2019. We would match each other as a freak back then, as they say.

We matched each other's freaking Joey Graceffa's vlog from 2015. Oh my God, I can't believe you found that. That was such a good picture. Oh, I saw the thumbnail was me and Colleen and Joey and I was like, what the hell is this? And then I clicked on it and then I was like, I think you spotted Oscar first. You're like, I think that's him on the couch. I was like, really? That is so funny. Yeah, it's the gift opening where I opened the gifts and Joey just recording everything. He has history there. Can I tell you? We should talk about Joey. It's Pride Month. We can talk about him too.

He can be a hot topic. I had a hot topic note about him. And this is not even me being funny at all. At all. But it's funny now, like, thinking about it that I thought. Because...

So back to music videos and Andrew Valentine. It all ties in together. The reason I found Andrew Valentine, my music video director, is because Joey used him first. He used him for Colorful and he used him for another music video. And the one I really loved was him and Luke Conard. And there was a girl dancing in the middle of them. And it was called Story of My Life. And I thought, this is such a good song. Like, I can't believe he wrote this song. I think I know where this is going. Oh, no. And so I loved the video. I thought it was so good.

So now I'm in my 1D era. And I was like going through the old songs that I didn't remember. Because again, One Direction started in 2010. Again, we know 2010. I was also like just not around. 2009 to like 2015, I'm clocked out. And I'm listening to this song. And I was like, did they cover a Joey Graceffa song? Like this is so wild. This ever made me think that it was his song.

this whole time. Not to say he did directly to me, but he never gave credit. He didn't say One Direction cover or anything like that. I was like, I thought it was Joey Guest's song the whole time. I was just thinking, I respected Joey so much because of that. I was like, wow, he's such a good songwriter. That's so good.

direction song I was like put that in your title Joey put One Direction cover otherwise everyone's just gonna think it's Joy Graceffa and Lou Connors who did this song story of my life I'll take her home and that was Joey and I was like wow this is so deep meanwhile Harry Styles is the one getting deep with it you know what I mean actually they wrote it but anyways I always thought that was a Joy Graceffa song and it's not and I feel so betrayed in so many ways

I think I would have not looked at him so much. I had stars in my eyes every time I looked at him. And now I'm like, oh, that wasn't even... Like the artist behind the story of my life. Yeah. I was like, wait, what? I mean, are you even gay? Or was that just for the plot too? The coming out video? I don't know. But...

I felt bamboozled. Bamboozled. Oh my God. For sure. It's such a good song story in my life. That's such a good song. It is. It's a beautiful song and it holds up. I think Ed Sheeran wrote it actually. Did he? I'm pretty sure. Oh shit. Okay. One Direction bamboozled me. I thought it was Niall because Niall, we've been watching The Voice. All he talks about is being a storyteller and that he writes all these songs. So I thought Niall wrote the song. I was like, because Niall performed it recently and I was like, oh, maybe he wrote it.

I'm trying to, I think, because I know. Ed Sheeran would make sense. I'm pretty sure Ed wrote that one. But like Harry and Niall, and I think Zayn also wrote some of it. Niall does write some of it. Yeah. Because he always talks about writing songs on The Voice. Well, he's the Irish one. They're the story tellers. Oh, he's also, oh, we mentioned him in The Takeover. Love Niall. I want him on the podcast. Get him on. Tell CAA. They're apparently, if they're getting Austin Butler. CAA, get us Niall.

I think he's on tour. He's not on The Voice. He's not coming back to The Voice. I know. Yeah, he's touring. Oh. Ooh, he is? Zeke, get us a spot. Get us a spot. I think he's in the UK. I'm going. I guess if he's in Scotland. Is he in Scotland? Maybe. I don't know. Oh, my God. We got to get to Scotland to get to the Traders. And Ireland. And Ireland. Everyone, yeah. But they're Irish. But maybe they'll be in Scotland. Yeah, I think because they're Irish, they don't go to Scotland. Yeah.

We'll go either place. Ireland, Scotland. Simon Cowell said he is starting the hunt for his next One Direction, though. That'll never happen. I know. Simon's too soft nowadays. Oh, my God. We've been watching All the Americans Got Talent. He literally picked a dog as the winner, and the dog won. The dog won. What? And all the dog did was...

skip around. I mean, it was impressive, but I'm like, you're going to be the most talented thing in the whole world is this dog. I mean, you're going to Vegas. There's Cirque du Soleil and there's a dog. A dog. And Simon was like praising this dog. I'm like, what happened to you? He doesn't critique anyone that's bad anymore. He's just like, he does golden buzzers for everybody. Like, what do we

- I watched last night. It was like them with like drones in the sky and you give them a golden buzzer. - What? - Yeah, it was literally like a hundred drones. And Moses, I guess thought it was cool, but it wasn't that cool. It was like lights in the sky. - I mean, it's cool, but it's not a talent. It's just a lot of drone in the sky. You can do any image you want with it. - Yeah, how are you gonna do that in Vegas? - You can't get a golden buzzer for that. - And sometimes like golden buzzer. I'm not allowed to do this 'cause it's my second one, but I'm gonna do it. I was like, okay. - What? - Yeah, Simon's wild. He's like not good anymore. I don't think he could find talent like that again. - And you know what's funny is like on X Factor, Nicole Scherzinger was the one that like really put them together.

So why Simon gets the credit? Because it's his show? Because it's his show. Then he was in charge of the boy of the groups that season. So like they were like his act, I guess. But Nicole said they should all be together. Yeah. Like Nicole was the one that helped like put them all like together. And like Katy Perry is the one that like sent Niall through, I think. So yeah. Oh.

On what show? X Factor. Oh, she was on that show too? She was like a guest judge, like during the auditions. And she wanted Niles to go through. Yeah, so really like Katy Perry and Nicole Scherzinger. Yeah, okay. Stealing other's side and taking the girls' credits. That's some bullshit.

he like obviously like managed them or whatever like after the show and like pushed him or whatever but um he didn't really like put them together it wasn't just him like it lowers a lot of you know pieces to the puzzle you know i think nile's the true star of the show now that i watch the voice i'm like he's oh god i love him i would pick team nile all the way he's not on the voice i'm not watching the boys adam levine's back when i was out no thank you no thank you is very very sweet and charming i like his solo music too never never heard of songs but i like him i

I like his voice. I like the way he talks. He's cool. Everything else is, I don't know. They have weird judges on this season. Anyways, we love the old one. I like it. It's great.

Team Niall. Team Niall all the way. I know. And I guess Simon was also saying on another podcast today, like, his big regret about One Direction is he doesn't own the name. He's like, technically, like, each of the members, each owns an equal percentage of the name. So he's like, I can never do, like, a cartoon or something with –

because of... But you shouldn't because you're not One Direction. I know. It'd be like sick if he just took it. It's giving Lou Pearlman vibes because Lou Pearlman was like the sixth member of the Backstreet Boys so he was able to own a percentage. Same thing with NSYNC. He was like the sixth member of NSYNC so that's how he got all the money. So Simon's trying to pull a Lou Pearlman or something and being like, I also should get some piece of this. I'm sure he feels like he owns it, you know, but who knows? I mean, he may...

ungodly amounts of money from that and the show and the talent shows you're doing fine when people have so much money and they're just trying to get more money it's just like how much money do you need you're gonna die in like 30 years so it's like do you need that much money what are you gonna do with it like and it's probably those same people who just say I'm not gonna give my kids any money they gotta work for it it's like okay so then what are you doing yeah

Yeah. It felt like a little gross. It's like, you know. Yeah. Because he's like, yeah. And if one – because they all own equal percentage. Like if one of them doesn't want a tour, then the tour can't happen. But that's good too. It's like a checks and balance. They're all a group. You know what I mean? They're all equal parts of the band, you know. They are. Because I – even though Harry Styles is the star and he's the breakout star, it's like is he any – like I don't know. Who's the less significant one? Liam Leigh.

Liam. What's Liam doing? You know what I mean? But it's like, but they're equal in one direction. You know what I mean? Like, Liam probably could use the money, but, like, they're equal in one direction. If Harry doesn't want to do it, then... Yeah. Unless one day he becomes, like, a Justin Timberlake and he's Flop Tropica and he has to go back to one direction, then it's bad. Yeah. Because Liam and Louis...

More so I think Liam actually like is really you know he pushes the narrative like reunion or whatever but Simon said he doesn't think it's actually like it would ever happen. I guess probably because of Harry. Yeah. He's like I'm too big but it's got yeah. I like

can't see Harry being disrespectful like Justin was to Brittany. I feel like he's a respectful king so he won't get canceled for anything hopefully. Yeah I agree. I think he's like when he was younger he was a little bit more playboy but I think as an adult he's like chilled out and like is very polite to everyone. We should do a hairstyles episode where we dress as hairstyles. Oh I would love that actually. When is that?

When is that? I don't know. We still have to do our Hunger Games. Now that we'll have two Hot Topics a week, you get so many opportunities. I love it. Someone said, because I love dressing drag. First of all, I would do like a boy Harry Styles for sure. Oh, he has some pink outfits. Anyways, besides the point, someone said, everyone's asking who should play young Haymitch in the new Hunger Games. And someone said me and drag. Trisha Paytas in drag. And it has like a million views on it. It's crazy. It went by.

My boyfriend even sent it to me. I was like, wow. That's actually kind of perfect. Yeah. I do look, I look more closer to his age now, but I still do it for sure. I love that they're doing a Haymitch movie or book. I guess it's not a movie yet, but. Book to movie. Oh, it is? Yeah. They got both at the same time, basically. Okay. I want to like it even more, I think, than the Coriolanus. Is that how you say his name? Yeah. I almost wanted to name, if we had a son, I almost put that as like a name for a son, Coriolanus. What a good name. It's so good. You don't like it? I like it.

The anus part throws me off. Is it Coriolanus? I think you're right, but it sounds... I like when his sister, Hunter Schaefer, was like, Corio. When she would call him Corio. That's cute. That's like choreography, but... Yeah, but I like that. That's cute. Oh, I can't wait. I can't wait for it. Oh, man. I know. Me too. And it's like...

It pays off being a Hunger Games stan because it's living. It's not like Twilight. There's nothing left to really get excited about. Yeah, this just keeps going. And that was a perfect one because everyone loves Haymitch. He's the best. Yeah, I feel like it's the most requested one that people have wanted to see. Because we want to see him in his prime on Hunger Games. Yeah, and his story sounded good. There was a very popular YouTube video where they –

almost like made that story. It was like very Joey Graceffa vibes. Like they did like a whole production. Like it was like them in the arena, the black shirts, like someone played like a young Haymitch. How do you know they wore black shirts in Haymitch's era? I think they were just going based off of like, that's the vibe that we got at the time. They just made it up out of nothing.

Well, they like in Catching Fire, the book, they talk a little bit about like what Hamish's Hunger Games were. So someone took that and like made it into a YouTube. That's dedication. Yes. That is very Joey campaigning for fitness. So people have been wanting it for a long time. So I'm excited for it. I think you could be in it.

Who can I play? You would be like an intellectual Hunger Games person. There was one guy with glasses in one of the – was it the second one or something? And he was smart, right? Oh, yeah. You could be like that kind of person. But in the Haymitch era, you know what I mean? Like young. Yeah.

With your computer. I think because I see you with your computer and glasses, I'm like, you're – and you are intellectual. You'd be like an editor. You edit the game or something. Oh, yeah. They did like in the – even in the – In the Capitol? Yeah. Yeah. Even when they cut to like the little control room or whatever and like flipping through the – That could be in Five Nights at Freddy's too. That could be a cameo for you. Oh, yeah. You could be an editor. Yeah. And then I'll be in the Burger King employee. I think that'd be fun. We got to get cameos in that movie. I'm so in for that.

that. And you could be the young Effie Trinket. Oh my god. I would die. Is she in that? Would she be in that? She's around Hamish's age so I think she could be in it technically. Do they know each other? I don't think so but I think she could make it up. Suzanne Collins could make it up if she wanted to. I would love. But again I'm not going to be young by that point. I'm going to be like

actual of her age in the Hunger Games but that would be so good I do love her character I wish I could have been her character in those movies yeah it is very just Trish coded yeah there's so many shows where I'm like oh you haven't watched oh Bridget Chang comes out this week oh yeah there's so much this week we've been re-watching the first season now which is like I don't know I don't understand why I got so hyped the first season because like it's good everyone's good but kind of the two leads kind of don't have chemistry

I think out of the three of them I mean I haven't seen the third one yet but from what I know I feel like the third they probably it's like the least like hot I feel like this season two especially the first season is less hot okay okay yeah season two especially they have really really good chemistry and like okay Nicola is like so close with her co-star like in real life so I feel like they would probably have good chemistry yeah yeah they're so good oh my god the third season is the best I don't know if it's because she's like just I see myself in her and I'm like I want to be that character so bad but the third season is just so so good I can't wait for it the first season is

Starseason's good. It's definitely good, but it's like, you know, I don't know. It's good. It's good. I just, I remember it being so hyped, so I thought it was going to be like, oh, yeah, I don't know. I guess it's like less sexual, so I don't like it as much. It's, it's, um...

Oh, what's his name? The guy from Wicked. Is he in the first season? He is. He's like one of the brothers. So he is in it a little. Yeah. I don't recognize him at all. Because I kept looking. I'm like, where is he? He's in there somewhere. He has a small part. He's in the family. He must look so different. Because I'm like, oh my. Yeah, I can't remember. I know he was in it, but I can't really remember. I was looking too. And it says his name, but I was like, okay.

It was, what, 2020? I mean, how – I can't imagine him looking that different, I guess, because it was only a couple years. I know. The second one is his, right? Okay. I have to watch the second season. Oh, we'll finish the first. The first isn't bad. It's good. It's good. The guy is good. The guy is good. I just feel like their chemistry is, like, not great. But maybe because there's not a lot of – I did read an article about Roger. Roger Jean Page. I love the name. About how – I think he's trying to, like –

from like leaving Bridgerton and then like being in Flop Tropica with all his movies. Welcome to Flop Tropica though. Honestly, I love being in it. I love being the queen of Flop Tropica. I love being a member, a citizen. I love all of it. There's nothing wrong with it. I think when people flop, it's iconic. I think with him, like he had just bets on being a movie star and then like the, he was in two. He was in one like, he was in one movie

He was in Dungeons and Dragons, I want to say, which was with Chris Pine. It was supposed to be a big budget kind of thing. Awful, yeah. But I guess in the article it said that he didn't like the movie. He kind of had like a bad attitude about it. Oh. And then he was in another like Netflix one with like Chris Evans, like an action kind of movie. But he didn't have like a big like role in it. So he like hedged his bets on being a movie star and it didn't work out. But also kind of like a bad attitude. Yeah, the bad attitude is always awful too. I think like.

Yeah, we read something in an article that he left because he didn't want to be typecasted. Oh. But I was kind of like –

I feel like it's going against the typecast by being in Bridgerton. You know what I mean? So it's kind of weird. I don't think you'd be typecast as like a – is he British in real life? Maybe. Regé sounds French. French. Maybe French. Yeah. I was like I feel like that's not really like – I don't know. He said he didn't want to be typecast. But I feel like that's not really a typecast. You know what I mean? Yeah. Like all the characters, they're all not typecasted and – which is what's great about the show, right? Yeah. It's against the typecast. But it's also just like being a part of like a franchise in general is like –

Good. Yeah. Don't leave. Don't leave that show. That is crazy to me because even the – who's the guy in Wicked? What's his name? Jonathan Bailey. Jonathan Bailey. He's in the third season. Yes. So he obviously is in Wicked but it's like let me not also – And Wicked and Jurassic Park. So he's franchised up. Franchise is the way. I want to be in a franchise. That is where it's at. Yeah. How do we get in there? You know what I mean?

we just got to get in there that one time and then you play a small role and then they like need you for like another movie. Yeah. Even the small roles, you being in it, like damn. They see you and then they want you to be the big thing. I know I got to do, I want to be British in a movie and I want to be naked in one movie. Okay, work. Yeah. Nicola's naked in the next second half of this. I'm very excited. She keeps talking about how she's naked. That's what I always want to be. I just want to be naked. I said that with Chelsea, uh,

Chelsea Lynn. Chelsea Lynn, yeah. I was like, I want to be naked. That's always been my goal too. I would love to be, I think in the first season of Bridgerton, there's like art models, like naked art models. I was like, I could have been in that. Especially that era. They always had bellies on their models and stuff like that. I could have been in that. So that's my goal. I want to be British. I want to be that. Nicola's also playing a fairy in a new upcoming movie. Did you see that? It's like,

a tavern movie. What? Nicholas playing a fairy. She posted about it and Baby Reindeer star is in it. No. The girl. I don't know her name. She also, Pride, she also came out as lesbian. Love that. But they're both like in this like tavern style movie playing fairies. Oh no. I know. They're like,

listening to me. Everyone's listening to me. But they're excluding you from the narrative. They're excluding me from the narrative. I don't understand why everyone's bypassing me. I'm just like, it's so annoying. You should at least get credit, you know, get

get royalties you should just get royalties I should get credit I don't need royalties I just need credit and shout out to Andy Valentine he did a special thanks to me and the Mattachina family which we talked about earlier there's a special thanks to Trisha Paytas he like he I didn't obviously watch the credits he screenshotted and showed me he's like I gave a special thanks to you and I was like oh my god why and he's like because all your music videos helped me become a better director oh my god that's so sweet I was so

proud of him because he had two movies that he like directed and one's called The Letterman with Garrett Clayton and I don't think that's streaming anywhere and then the I keep saying it wrong I don't know I literally looked it up but I don't know how to pronounce it but the Maraschina family and he directed that too and I was like so happy it's so cool to see also why wasn't I in it though I was kind of like also he had Patrick Starr have a cameo really I paid 10 million dollars at least not to him but to the budget of whatever oh my god anyways it was nice what did Patrick Starr play I

He was kind of like himself. He was like this rainbow queen in like one of the party scenes. It was like a little gay party everyone was having. You could have been at the gay party for sure. I could have been at the gay party. Because I wasn't invited back then. I guess that was – yeah. Maybe I was just gay and not queer. Maybe I wasn't invited, you know. I guess so. Gays only. No queers. Were there any like ladies in it or was it all just – Yeah. The girl from Schitt's Creek. The one that's like the –

Damn it. Which, but I know, like, people. She's, like, David's friend. She's the one that, like, she's, like, his best man at his wedding. Oh, so she's in it? Yeah, she's in it. He has, actually, some pretty popular people that want Pablo from Fuller House. Gary Clayton has, like, a little cameo in it. And, yeah. So, yeah, so, like, lesbian couple trying to have a baby. Then there's, like, oh, Heather Matarazzo. Do you know her? She was the girl from Princess Diaries that was, like, a best friend. I've never seen her.

I never saw Princess Diaries. I saw a clip of her being the best friend. I mean, like, who did that to your hair? It's so ugly. You look ridiculous. You should sue. Okay. So, wow. That was actually kind of everything. But, like, that's her best friend in the movie because all the comments were like, she's an awful friend. And I was like, was she a villain? Was she the end of being me? She was just, like, very self-absorbed and, like, but she comes around and she is, like, the best friend in the sequel. So she sticks around. Dump her right away. Even though Driver was like, don't put up with that. Yeah.

can make you feel inferior without your consent. Wow, you are Princess Diaries' Stan. I love that movie. Okay, I love, never saw, I didn't see clips of it. Heather Matarazzo was also in Hostile Part 2. Did you ever see that one? Mm-mm. You would hate that one because that's just like men killing women. It's kind of like everything. Oh my God. Yeah, the first one, oh, wait, no, no, no. The first one is like,

Yeah, I don't know. I never saw the first one. The second one I saw, and yeah, it's like women and then the guys paid it. Anyways, it's kind of gross and disgusting. However, Eli Roth, who again should put me in a movie. I've literally known him since I was 18. Not personally, but personally, kind of. I know him somewhat. He has Hostel, the TV series, coming out with Paul Giamatti starring in it. And anything Paul Giamatti does turns to gold. So Eli, I would like to be casted. I've known you since I was 18. We're cool. I've always talked highly of you. Put me in something.

At least like a cameo or something. Yeah, something. The people want to see it. Uh-huh. I don't know why he's, I don't know. Don't be a, don't be Flop Topica. Put me in it. He's like so crazy when you know people and you're just like, why am I not in this movie? Why did I not get there? You know what I mean? One day. It very much escaped the night complex. Oh, Mike, don't even get me started on that. Yeah.

Joey's Joey forever on my canceled list for not putting Mia's kid. Like people you put in twice. Like there was people that were in there twice. Like Rosanna. Love Rosanna. Happy birthday, by the way. She's everything. And she sent me flowers. She's great. But like Gabby in it twice. Colleen in it twice. I was like, you couldn't put me in it once? Like that's wild. And I was very popular back then. So I don't understand. But it's totally fine. But I see these movies and I'm just like, oh, my God, one day you'll be directing a movie and won't put me in it.

It's crazy. My best friend, Jeff, is doing Thanksgiving, too. And I was like, does my dad have a part? He's like, probably not. I was like, okay. Fair enough. Oh, wait. We also talked about this because I have a lot of gay news and we didn't talk about it. Chris Colfer said that coming out would ruin his career. Oh, yeah. I saw him say that. Was it a podcast or something? Yeah. And I was kind of like, wait, but you're so gay. I know. That would be like me saying coming out would ruin my career. Don't tell people. Yeah. I never had to come out to my parents because it was just like –

Yeah. You know what I mean? It was just like – and I feel like Chris Colfer is probably the same boat as me. Right. It's like you just are what you are. Yeah. I think people just know and it's fine and whatever. No one cares. But I just was like that was kind of wild. I was like I don't think I'm a new career. I think that makes your career. Yeah. And there's some like – because there's some like older actors I guess that are like kind of – like they're not like –

They're like low key about it. Like they're not like keeping it super secret, but they're just like low key about it. And like, I get like maybe the big coming out would be for them because they play it like they're in, you know, huge franchises and they play straight men or whatever. But look like a Jonathan Bailey. Like he's out and he's in Jurassic Park. Yeah, he's out of the closet. Is he like?

Like, yeah, like he goes to like gay events and stuff. He's like, yeah. Okay. He's very like cheeky. I was like, my coworker who interviewed him for the Bridgerton premiere, like he was so like flirty and cheeky. I was like, oh my God. I kind of love that. Did you see Austin Butler flirting with Australia? Like I was confused though. Cause he's still with Kaya Gerber. I guess we don't know for sure, but he was just like Lucia. Have we met before? I got, that's why I was like, that's what I emailed. Get me Austin Butler. He seems fun. Like,

Like, he seems like, you know, goofy, silly. And she's like, oh, no, this interview's about you. He's like, oh, I don't like questions about myself. I don't want to talk about you. Okay, Austin Butler. I was gagged. She also looked like a model, but... She was gorg, yeah. It would have been different, like, again, if it was, like, a me or, like, a baby reindeer or something, you know what I mean? But also, like, with dark hair. Like, very Kaia Gerber coded. Like, you know what I mean? Yeah, Vanessa Hutchins. Yeah. Well, you know, usually guys with light eyes and light hair, they usually like that. Like, opposites. You know, me too. I usually like guys that are, like, dark eyes, dark hair. I don't know, because...

It'd be weird to like someone that looks like you, right? Yeah. I don't know. I guess I have dated people like that, but whenever I saw someone with like blue eyes, I would never like it because it's like what I have. Oh, interesting. And so there's like this weird almost like repellent. I don't know. Yeah. That I didn't like or like blonde hair in general. I don't like light. Except Niall. He is great. I love him so much. Yeah.

is he maybe he can be in my tavern show i think he i think he's my age but 31 32 crazy they're in their 30s like i literally think of them as like boys because again i wasn't around i really really don't remember one direction like hand god don't remember one direction at all ever coming out and i remember them on james court and i saw them like the first time on there but i was like they always seem like little boys to me and now i'm like oh my god they're like men it's like crazy are they doing anything um individually like zane um

released a song recently and he's on like some press so maybe you can get zane he's been doing some interviews no i don't know where he's at he must be releasing something soon because he's been like very quiet yeah maybe he can come on our hairy episode when we're dressed up oh yeah i think i have a little pink jumpsuit he wore i think i want to wear yeah he has had some serious looks he had a good rainbow one to the rainbow jumps yeah was that the coachella one yeah yeah i think all my looks are coachella looks the pink ones i think are coachella his last tour he had really good ones

too. I think Love on Tour is what it was called. Love on Tour? Yeah. Oh, sick geek. I want to go to that too. Is it on tour now? It's over, but he literally had like a residency in LA. He played for like two months straight at the Forum. Did you go? No. Wait, really? Because it was really expensive and like it was the same time as Eros Tour like went on sale. So I like held out, you know, I can't recommend. Wow. You picked Taylor over Harry? Well, yeah. Taylor's like my... But Harry's like a hot boy.

I saw him once. I had like a hardcore Harry era, like his first tour. Got over it. I got, I think I, that happens to me a lot. I go through, maybe very you coded. The phases, yeah. Even like a Ted, I feel like I get not like as thrilled. Even like a Hassan lately. I think after like I talked to Austin, I'm like, you know what? Like you, you can keep him. You know what I mean? Oh my God. You're like,

Maybe did they – because like Harry – Taylor's giving you attention maybe because Harry hasn't like given the attention. But when I went to interview – I didn't do the interview. I just went to like be there. But Harry gave me attention. He's like, oh, I like your shirt. Oh. Yeah. And that wasn't enough. So he did give it to me. You didn't get the picture. Yeah.

Yeah. No, I did get a photo. I have a photo with Harry. You have a photo with Harry Styles? Yeah. Show it. I need to see it right now. That's everything. What's your arm? Is your arm around him or is he around you? His arm's around me. It was at the American Music Awards. Oh, he's skinny, first of all. If a guy can fit his arm around my shoulder, I'm like, wow, impressive. I was like a bigger boy. It was my big boy era. And he still has his arm around you, though. That's even more impressive. A lot of times they don't let you do it. Wow. He was like this. You could have been that big. But the girl, shout out Kelty Knight from E! Oh, Kelty. Ari does her makeup, too. Oh, really? Yeah, it's a full circle.

She was doing the interviews and I went with her. Like I was a – was I intern? I think I was just interning actually at ET and she did the interviews and I was like, I just love Harry. Like if I can get a photo. And she came through. Like she was like, can you get a photo with you? Like he loves you. And yeah, so she really came through. And she took the angle – the photo from high up so I looked like – Oh, perfect. But then also it could look almost like you're too short, you know? Sometimes when we get to the high angle, it looks like I'm like –

three feet which is fine but i don't want to look like i'm three feet yeah and harry's also taller than me so it was but he had a big hat that was that also kind of made me look like smaller do you have it easy to bring up or is it like i think it's on my instagram somewhere oh my god i want to see this you have nothing to add to the harry styles conversation do you know who he is yes oh how do you know him

we talk about him all the time he's kind of famous do you know him from anything his songs his music his movies i think he had a song that was viral on tiktok watermelon sugar watermelon sugar definitely that one and something else we saw the movie oh okay there you go yeah that was that's what made me really like him i was like that movie's pretty good

Yeah. I mean, to me, it was like a list actor. He was like. Yeah, he was so good in that. That girl was cray cray. She was trying to get out of that life. I was like, girl, stay in Pleasantville. Like that is the place I want to be. That was crazy. She wanted to leave there. I was like, this guy is like hot. He comes home. He makes the money. He just wants to have sex with you all the time. And she's like, let me out of here. I hate this place. I was like, what a weird movie. And that would be misogynistic, but you could tell it's like kind of female directed. It's like, it's like this feminist like message, but also like, I want to stay that way.

I want to be the neighbor. You know what I mean? Just like I'm staying here in my happy world. Yeah, I think the message was about women's free will, I think. But yeah, okay. I mean, it helps if the husband just wants to have sex with you all the time. Like my free will is stay here. You can have the free will to enjoy that. It's true. Yeah. If that's what you want, go for it. That's the Barbie message. That's like, you know, you don't have to be. Right. Whatever. I mean, it's good. I don't know. I don't really get those kind of movies, but I liked it. Here is the photo. It looks crazy, but...

I was gagged. What's your face? Were you like... I was gagged. Oh, that's what it was? Yeah. Because in my head, I was like... I always did the shocked face and like meet and greets or whatever because I'm like, it makes me look skinnier because then I don't look as round. That was my strategy. You look great. That's a good one. That's a great one. What year was that? 20... That's everything. 13? I would think you were the famous person on this.

I like that. He's also doing the shocked face. Right, right. Okay, I see that. Yeah, he kind of has that face too. You're like the Harry Daniels back then. I got it. You're like the Harry celebrity. I kind of was. You're like Sabrina Carpenter. That is impressive, actually. I wish I had that Rolodex of pictures. I like don't. I would be flashing them all the time, like throwback Thursday. That's really cool. That is actually really cool. Damn.

Damn. I want to do that. I need to go to interviews. What were you just interviewing with the Cal team? Yeah. I was just there. It's like – I was like a PA or no, intern at the time. So like I would ask to like go on shoots or whatever and then you were just there. You could like take photos for like the hosts or whatever. That's so cool. Yeah. It was fun to just be there. That was back in the day. I was so excited. I was like I want to just go. Yeah. Now I'm like I don't want to. Really? Oh, I would love to for like celebrities and stuff. It depends on the event. Like I don't know. It would have to be someone I love because it's just like so much work.

Like a Sabrina for sure. You would go, yeah. Yeah, like another Sabrina thing. Yeah. Maybe. Yeah, she'll come. You're one of her hair people. No, does her hair, right? Yeah, yeah. Well, actually, yeah. He's full time with her now and I would like, that'd be so great but I don't think it would. I could DM him. Well, we know. That's the thing. I'm so close to people who are close to people. You know what I mean? Like he knows someone who's like tight with Lenny who like brings up Lenny Kravitz all the time because they're really close. Oh, wow.

You did say something. You're like, can you come on the podcast? Did you ask him to come on the podcast or was it just like... Oh, yeah. I told him. You did. We would love to have him on the podcast. Because he's close with this person and this person is really close with Lenny. And so I was like, wow. Is it weird to be like, can you come on? I don't know. Maybe on our Hunger Games episode you can come on. OT. Yeah. That'd be everything. I would love to get like Josh Hutcherson for our games episode too. Yeah. How do we get that? That's a great question. CAA. CAA. Get on it. Is he with them? No.

Or Harry Daniels. Whoever gets to him first. Harry Daniels is the connection. I think Harry Daniels did sing to him actually. To Josh Hutcherson. Really? Yeah. Where? What did he sing? On the street. He sang the whistle song by Flo Rida. That's right. I remember because I didn't know that meme and then I had to like look it up and I was like okay that's kind of everything. I love it. Harry is like boots on the ground for real. We love Harry Daniels. He's here this week but we missed him because we only filmed one day this week. I know. So any other time we're going to film two days a week but.

Yeah. He'll be back though for sure. We love him. Who's your queer of the week by the way? Queer of the week. Oh gosh. Oh man. I should have thought about this more. I know. Harry Styles maybe? Is he part of the community? I don't know. I mean I don't think he's come out one way or another. So yeah. He could be considered. Yeah. Oh.

- Oh, I pick on someone close to me, Andy Valentine, my director. - Oh, jeez, okay. - Yeah, he is my Queer of the Week 'cause he did a great queer film. And he's just good all around. He's always been. Like for my videos too, like Cinderella, we always had same-sex couples in there dancing. We've always been a little cutting edge, you know what I mean? I just always liked it. And not even making it a big storyline, not even making a big deal, just like, oh, there's two guys dancing together in Cinderella, or two girls or whatever. I always liked that. - I love that. - He's an ingenue, he's a visionary, and he's queer.

and we love it and he's very adamant about it and talks about it in all his films and I love Andy Valentine and I would love him on and he's great and he's wonderful and our daughters play together and it's really cute. Oh, that's so cute. Yeah, it's really cute. I love him. He's always been really nice. You always know. I told you, if he was, I know you don't say that about gay people if they were straight but honestly, he's that one that has always been so kind to me, so patient. I've had a falling out with literally everyone I've ever worked with. I always have. Especially back in the day, I was a hothead. I was a hothead with Andy Valentine but he's,

He restores my faith in Gemini's. He's a Gemini. And he's just always been so sweet. Like, he always understands. Even if I've had, like, breakdowns or, like, I shout or I scream. He always, like, understood. And, like, yeah. He's very patient, very sweet. And I love him. And he really is, like, the ideal guy. Before Moses. I was like, damn. Andrew Valentine's really the ideal guy. And, yeah. I love him. He's my queer of the week. How about you? I...

It's going to be Austin's show. Austin's show really restored my faith in the twunk community. Yeah. A pillar of the community, if you will. Should we have him on? Maybe we have him on, you know? What is this? Did I do it right? Yeah.

Yeah. I know. I do. He's like best friends with like Cutie and Hassan. But honestly, I might have to boot Hassan, just Cutie and Austin. Okay. Really, no straighties. We do not need Hassan anymore. I'm almost pulling like a week, like you at the weekend when you stop. That's how I'm feeling, honestly. I was like, you know what? Like, because

hard to get. Yeah. I'm going to be like, I hate One Direction. Oh, they're so untalented. Because Cutie and Austin both follow me via me and they're so sweet. Hassan hasn't followed back. So, you know what? I'm sticking to my girlies, Austin and Cutie. The literal girlies. Yeah. We love them. I like them.

I like that. In my head, they're like very like us coded because like they're like a little duo and like they're cute. You know what I mean? So it's like, yeah, I'm like you guys get the vibe like a girl who has like a really hot husband. No, they're just boyfriend and girlfriend. Really hot boyfriend. Really successful boyfriend. She's so successful. Moses is the hot boyfriend in this situation. Yes, exactly. And like just like a really fun gay. He's like the cooler, hotter me, I think. I think you sell yourself short. I feel like you are the cooler, hotter gay in every scenario. I think so. I don't know. I can't think of

can't think of one right now that could be even you with Troye Sivan I would say you and you know I love Troye Sivan I love him but I still would pick you for sure and I think you have the personality that goes with it so I go with your South

deprecation but I always am like he knows because I self deprecate too but I'm like I am really attractive like I do know I'm more attractive than the most and I feel like you know you're more attractive than the most people I think it depends on the circumstance like the guy I was talking about earlier I was like I'm cuter than you but like if I'm next to like an Austin I'm like no like really Austin is like so I don't know what Austin looks like but he's just like a very like classically like attractive does he look like Austin Butler

Like a cousin, maybe. Okay, okay. Yeah, because he's like... Same family? Yeah, same family for sure. Okay. Yeah. And he's like ripped. Yeah. But see, I don't love ripped. See, ripped loses points for me. Not to say on him, but I'm saying I can still... In general, yeah. Yeah, like you're fit. You're fit. I don't know. I actually have never seen you in a crop top or anything. But you should, you know? If you want. I'm not saying you should, but if you wanted to. So I don't know. It's hard to tell, but you look very fit. You look very toned. Just based on what you say, I'm like, well, I don't know. I mean, I don't know what...

Doesn't matter. Don't need to comment on coworkers' bodies, but, you know, I don't know. I love your description. That's so funny. So I think you're in the top four of gays in the world. That is so sweet. Yeah. Wow, me over Troye Sivan. That's a big. Yeah, for sure, for sure. That's a big accomplishment. I didn't even think of a gay person that I would pick over you. No, I can't. Troye's my number one, so I don't know. That's it. You're number one. Always and forever.

Speaking of Troye Sivan, his good friend, Charlie XCX. So fellow gay icon, Charlie XCX. That's his friend? Yeah, they're going on tour together. Like their tour is a joint tour. It's like Charlie and Troy together. We should cosplay them. Oh!

That is such a good idea. Okay, we gotta find their cosplays. Shared in the shared album. Oh my god. That would be everything. We'll go to the tour. Are you Troy or are you Charlie? That's a good question. I don't know what she wears. I'll be Charlie. I'll be Troy. I don't know. Troy's very skinny. I was gonna say. That's why I was trying to get to Charlie. You're skinnier. I was trying to get to Charlie because it'd be hard to do. He's just shirtless. Right? Or he wears little crop tops, I guess, with jeans. Oh yeah. I always think of

Did he play Timothee Chalamet or did Timothee Chalamet play him? Timothee Chalamet played him. I was thinking Timothee Chalamet as Troye Sivan. That's how I envision it. Okay. I can almost cross my legs, everybody. We're getting there. That is fierce. Yeah. That's when I will have my own talk show when I can cross my legs like Wendy. I haven't been able to do that in a while. I mean, it's a little bit thick, but you know. No, it's fully there, I think. No, I think it needs to just flop down a little more. It needs to go straight like that. Oh, I see. But we'll get there once the thighs go down. I feel like Wendy now that I can cross my legs again. Okay. So tell me.

Oh, man. It's very cute. Thank you. Is that me? Okay. Charlie X...

CX. Not XQC. You do get the confused a little bit. It's kind of the same. It is very similar. Yeah. So she released her new album, Brat. And it's like the gay album right now. Yeah, it's pretty wild. What's it stand for? I didn't hear it. It's just Brat. Like, you know, being bratty. Like that. Yeah. But I feel like it's like, you know, the party gay. Like, she's a party girl. So like the party gay is really love her. They're like the new Kesha. Yeah. Actually, you're right. Very that vibe. Okay. Because like all the tweets about her is like people that are like,

having sex and Bratz playing in the background. It's like, yeah, it's like they're, and the color is like lime green, the color of the album. So it's like they're painting their schlongs lime green. And yeah, it's very, well, the fans are a little rowdy because she was at an event and like, there's this viral video of fans like shoving poppers in her face as she's like walking. Oh my God. Wait, okay. Okay. So it's like, that,

That's what I, like, there's a big controversy about it. This is not drugs, really. You can get them over the counter. I guess. I don't think you can just pop Advil in someone's face, though. Yeah, right? Yeah.

So, like, there's a big controversy about it because she is, like, the party girl. And, like, in 2019, her last album, it was a similar controversy because people were bringing, like, a douche, poppers. Someone brought their, like, mom's ashes, like, the mean greeds. And she was, like, signing them and doing photos. And everyone's like, is this too much? Is it crossing a line? Like, is this disrespectful? And then Charli released a statement saying, like, she's fine. She doesn't care about any of this stuff. Like, she'll sign whatever. But that's signing. That's not, like –

Getting it. Sniffing something as you go by. Yeah. Was her nostrils crazy? Or are they just like flared? It's hard. The video is so short. Oh, okay. And she's like walking in a crowd. So you just see someone like shove the bottle up her face. That's wild. That's like assault, I think.

think it's a little too far right i think definitely yeah like i know she's a cool girl and like she's like uh you know she's like degassed whatever i feel like that's like okay let's have some boundaries signing something yeah weird like i don't know if i'd sign someone's ashes but like that's whatever that's one thing because she has consent over it as opposed to like shoving something you're so right she does have consent when she's signing yeah i think just shoving anything in someone's face someone shoved like a pizza in my face i'd be like what the fuck are you doing you know what i mean that's a popper

So, no. That's a no-go. Even if she says she's okay with it, that's actually not okay. Yeah. Even though you think it's okay, you know? Yeah. Boundaries for sure. Yeah. I had someone pour poppers down my mouth once. I think on accident. I think. I hope. But it was, like, very traumatic. Down your mouth? I thought you had a sniff it. What are you... Yeah. What's in it? I think he was trying to, like...

20 this was like 2015 so pre i was like bigger and yeah anyway um you know my weight that's not what my timeline is but i remember he was like and this was like he was like a skinny like skater guy or whatever so i was like just like you know i was like i was just like whatever like i'm down for anything but anyway he was like trying to like tilt it to my face i think and i was like laying down and like spilled like into like my mouth what's even in it liquid

It's called like, it might be different now because it's been a while, but I remember like you have, when you went to go buy it, you had to say it was VHS cleaner. Yeah.

I don't I don't so it was like almost like a gasoline I remember tasting like gasoline how gasoline smells. Yeah. So it wasn't like on the shelves. It was like behind the shelves that you had to go to the register and be like can I have like VHS cleaner. Wait why though if it was legal. Now you can say like oh like can I have like the brand. Yeah. I was like oh can I have Rush or whatever you know but. Weird. Yeah like I just say like VHS cleaner. So did it like affect you. I

I was, I just remember it like burning in my mouth and it tasted like literally like gasoline. I was like, I had to run and like, it was like spitting it out and like rinsing my mouth. But I survived. I don't know if maybe I'm dumber because of that. I don't know if it affected like my brain. Oh my God. No, yeah. I feel like it's like safe, I guess. But like, is it?

I don't know. Yeah, it's a little dicey. I think anything non-consensual is probably illegal. Yeah. Like anything. Yeah. Yeah. So I stand with Charlie in like the... I mean, she hasn't said anything, but I think... Just don't shove poppers into anyone's mouth. Maybe she was loving it. Maybe she's like, I want more free poppers in my face. There was a... She did post a video in 2019. She held up like a little thing of poppers and was like, gay rights. And everyone loved it. Okay, that's cute. I was like, you said that when you came in, gay rights. Gay rights. I almost brought you a little thing of poppers to recreate the video, but I was like, oh, that's kind of weird. Like babies...

I don't know how many seconds I got. Well, not until like, just for the break rate. Oh, gay rights. So I have a broken wing and I'm like, gay rights.

That'd be funny. Do you have poppers with you? No, I almost brought it. I have like... I think... I don't know if it's still effective though because it's been like the same one for like four years, four or five years. Wait, why do you have it for so long? Because it's not like you... Just in case? I don't know. I've just had it and like I've never gone to get a fresh bottle or whatever. But why don't you use it? You're just like, I'm just going to keep it and just... I mean... Well, like use it sometimes, I guess. But like... But I thought they're like one and done. No, it's not one and done. It's like... It's still kind of... I think...

It probably is not effective now, really. I mean, I haven't used it recently. Wouldn't it be strong? I mean, I was using it for a while. Because it's just like a chemical. So it still smells like... So you're just like huffing a chemical, basically. But it only lasts like a minute, right? It's really short. Yeah, it just relaxes your muscles for like a minute. Just get muscle relaxers, I guess. Yeah. I don't know. I don't know if we should advocate muscle relaxers instead of Popper's, but... Your doctor prescribes them. I don't know. I don't know either. I haven't done any...

Backdoor action in a while. So I don't know. I haven't done poppers in a while too. Now it's just like, I don't know. I guess it's like,

I don't know if I love the feeling of it really. Like it just – it kind of makes me feel like I'm going to like die or something. Yeah. I didn't like it when I – I've only done it a couple of times but it always gave me headaches. Yes. I think I want to say – I don't know for sure but I think I definitely did it with someone in the vlog squad and I want to say it might have been like Zane or something one time. I don't know. Maybe. We were like in the gay sex store in West Hollywood. Maybe it was. I can't remember who it was but it was definitely someone in the vlog squad for sure. That sounds like a vlog squad kind of answer. Yeah. Shout out unfiltered pretty. Pretty unfiltered. Unfiltered or basically – Basically unfiltered. Whatever it is now. We love – We love all of them.

all of them. The hottest topic that everyone's been wanting us to chime in on since last week really is when it popped off. Yeah, so I kind of said

But I guess I – yeah. I didn't really – I don't really fully get it. Is it an old story but she talks about it recently on the canceled tour? Yeah. Tana was on – And has Tana said anything about it? No. Not since it like blew up. So like is it weird we talk about it if it's like – because the canceled tour was not supposed to be recorded, right? I guess technically but it was and they were kind of – I don't know. It's not like they blacklist anyone who posts anything. Right, right. And Tana has like reposted some videos from the tour before too. Okay, okay. Yeah. But –

Tana at one of the last canceled tours talked about how she hooked up with Cody Ko when she was 17. And like the timeline was. Wait, I don't think I know this story. Oh, do I? Have we? I don't know. Like Cody was 25 and she was 17. Wait, I don't think I knew the ages. We did talk about this? I didn't realize. I knew she. I feel like it was talked about before. Because I remember in the Britney, like when the Britney Broski drama was happening, it was like, well, she's best friends with Cody Ko.

Which is... But is this his problematic... This was like lumped in with like... Because I feel like it's been talked about before, but not like... I don't know if Tana's ever said anything like specifically. She's joked about hooking up with him before. So I knew that they were a thing at some point. But I think the age gap, I didn't fully know. I didn't know there was such a big... Yeah, the age gap was one thing, but also the...

legality of a 17-year-old in California is a whole other thing, too. Which is, again, like, again, there's, like, morally... Because I even think, like, 18, whatever, it's still, like, disgusting. But it's, like, I guess legally you're in the clear. But it's, like, 17? It's, like, there's still laws and it's criminal for a reason. You know what I mean? Like, this is... This is wild. Okay, so did Cody ever say anything? Okay, so...

kept up on this because like I also you know I like love Tana more than anything so it's like I sometimes see stuff about Tana and I like don't want to like click on it because I'm just like oh I don't know like it hurts my it actually hurts my heart for real because I feel like she talks about a lot of her stuff that's like she realizes is not okay later on like trauma that's happened with especially men like a lot of guys just like sexualizing her really young and I just it makes me like actually so sad but um

Okay, so are they – they were friends? They were dating? I think they, like, hooked up. Because so in one of, like, the segments on the canceled tour, it was, like, the hot seat segment. Someone asked who had the smallest D out of everyone she'd previously been with. And she said, oh, my God, don't look at me. But Cody Ko, I can say that. I was literally 17. Oh!

Yeah. Damn, that's a lot of T. Yeah. Oh my God. And then so by her saying she was 17, like people did the math of like the ages. So he would have been 25 when they allegedly, I guess, hooked up. But I feel like she would never like, Tana's somebody who doesn't say something unless there's like backup. Like you can, you know what I mean? Especially something that's so,

Verifiable. Yeah. And like, yeah, it's out there. And they've like, they collab, like there's videos of them like collabing on his channel, like when she was that age. So it kind of like makes. When she was 17? Yeah. So it all kind of makes sense. And I think they collabed again, I don't know.

not a few years ago whatever and i met like i remember the discourse around it like i have the vague like recollection of like the discourse of like them having previously like hooked up or whatever and i think she's mentioned like like previously like having a thing with them before but then yeah i think the age thing is like the thing that yeah has started 25 and 17 is like gross 25 and 18 is gross like 25 you're like you're an adult you're a full-fledged adult and this is a person that's like an actual child who's had obviously like she talked she's always been open about her um

you know relationship with her parents who obviously have like a bad upbringing and so people yeah yikes yeah and like and you can tell by her response that it's kind of like traumatic or she holds some sort of resentment because obviously she said she's like I can say that because I was like 17 and like you really don't say stuff like that unless you have sort of like a triggered response or something like that that something triggered you because that's how I usually am too when someone brings up someone that like traumatized me I usually have like

a little bit of a feisty response. Like, you know what I mean? Yeah. Yikes. So he's never said anything about it? No. And I guess, like, he has, like, a history of, like, just, like, never, like, addressing. He's, like, one of those. The ones that, like, never address it. I hate that. It's, like, address it. Like, address it. Otherwise, but that's also, like, I feel guilty, right? Like, if you don't, like, address something, you know, it just screams to me, allegedly, all that stuff like that. But it's, like, it looks more sus that you're not addressing it. And also cowardly. Like, this person...

I guess what do you say, though? Because then you're just admitting guilt and then I guess you shouldn't. And I guess it was a crime, I guess. Yeah. Yeah, literally. Right. That's like the David Dobrik where he's like, I can't say anything because then I'm just confessing to actually. Yeah. And he is like married with a kid now, too. So that also adds like a whole other weird element. I really don't know anything about him. Yeah. He's really, really popular. I mean, like. What's he do? He. How do you know?

It's just like he started like from the Vine days and he did YouTube and then he had like a little – he had a show called Tiny Meat Gang I want to say. Oh.

Kind of makes sense. Tiny Meat Gang? Yeah. I think that's what it was called. Oh, yeah. With Noel Miller was his co-host. And it got really, really popular. Okay. It aged greatly then. It was accurate. And he's like a – he's like, I don't know, like one of the funny guys or whatever. But now I think he does music now because when my boyfriend went to Vegas a couple months ago, he was performing at the pool. Yeah. Down at DJ. He's like singing? I think he's like singing.

But he's like really, really popular, especially with like the college like crowd. Are we going to get canceled for talking about it? No, the whole internet is kind of like, oh, this is like messed up. I kind of have seen stuff about it. I just didn't know like, yeah. Ooh, it's just like tough. Like I just – because it is one of those things where I'm like maybe I should reach out to Tana in the sense of like is she okay? Because like also like I feel like she has so much stuff she probably hasn't talked about or said stuff like, you know, like on cancel tour or like just in general. I guess she's just writing a book. I think I saw like she was on live talking about writing a book or something. And I was like, are you okay though? Because it's like –

I think she's really good at, like, masking stuff and just being, like, that girl. But... Yeah. That's kind of, like, sad. Especially if he hasn't addressed it. I don't know, like, how... So, but people are, like, more on her side then. Oh, yeah, yeah. Fully. Like, because it does, like, make sense. Because I think people have known that they hooked up. Like, I knew that they hooked up, like, when she said that. Like, that is another thing that shocked me. You know? It was, like... The age. The age. Yeah. Seeing, like, the ages together. I think, like, 17, 25. That's, like, wild. Because... Yeah. Yeah. I think what's really interesting, too, is the, like...

like I'm sure he's gonna just like move on like he's not gonna say anything he's still gonna be performing everywhere like it's just so interesting like the difference and like backlash you know what I mean like you still have so many people who are like mad at stuff for so long ago and it's like you've apologized and like literally there's nothing else you can do at that point it's like yeah I'm not sleeping with minors yeah and it's like you've apologized so it's like and I get some people like don't want to forgive you that's fine that's like people's decisions but it's like to still like harass over this but then like someone like a that does like an actual crime can like

Move on and not have the same kind of like vitriol or like the same intense like people wanting just for you to be completely obliterated. You know what I mean? Right, right. Like life ruining. The energy is like that. And also too on Tana's end too, like she probably – obviously she's not going to like press charges or anything. So it is one of those things where it's like –

is there any, your closure, I guess, for her to be able to like joke about it or something like that. Because I'm like, uh, it does suck that like nothing's going to happen, you know? And it's like, these people can just do it. And I'm sorry, I don't know how old Cody Ko is, but I'm 36. And it's like, even when I was 25, you knew not to like sleep with minors. Yeah.

Like, you know what I mean? It's not like people would say, it was a long time ago or move on or whatever. It's like, okay, well, like, obviously it's still, like, affecting her. And that's what I always say with anyone, like, any victim, like, Adam, Actair, all that stuff like that. It's like, you know, they can talk about it for as long as they want, especially if the person doesn't want to address it or apologize for it. You know what I mean? Because I bet if Cody kind of, like, apologized or texted her and was like, hey, like, kind of like the Brittany Broski, you know, like, text her. I don't know. She didn't apologize. I'm just saying text.

her privately. You know? Like, I feel like maybe she, like, you know, it feels a little better to her. It feels like a little bit of closure, but she doesn't have that, so she's going to just keep, you know. And I think she should, especially at these shows. Like, that's her, you know, story to tell and jokes to make and stuff because it's, like, how she can deal with it and how she can feel somewhat okay with what happened. Yeah. Because it sounds like it's probably not okay now to her. Maybe in the time it was against Seventeen, you, like, you're young. You don't know. You don't really – you can't really give consent at Seventeen. But –

Hmm. That's sad. It makes me sad, honestly. Like, that whole thing. It just makes me... I saw, like I said, I saw, like, headlines and stuff people talking about. I didn't know if it was, like, new or recent. And I just... I don't know. I was... It just made me sad. Yeah. You know? Yeah. Because, I mean, she's been through a lot. And she's, like, very well adjusted for how much she's been through. You know what I mean? Especially now. Like, you just see her, like... Happy. So happy. And, like, just at peace. And, like, really, like, on top of her game. You know? Yeah. Like, very much, like, in her prime. Yeah.

And she's gone through a lot to get there, you know. Oh, for sure. I think – and she always talks about that, like just men being so inappropriate with her. And I feel like that's just such a big thing to talk about because like it's such a unique experience to have too, especially when you're like the one with like money and power and men still being like taking advantage. Because she always was – like at 17, she was famous. You know what I mean? So it's like she kind of had that stature and I kind of like that she talks about it now because I think she was always like that fun girl in like the vlogs and stuff like that. But, you know, that she can talk about it now and how like inappropriate and gross it was, you know, stuff like that.

that happened to her so even stuff that was like non-consensual or stuff that you know people played off as jokes or something like that I just feel like yeah and it's someone like her talking about is so powerful because she is at the top of her game and she could just like forget about it just live you know the now whatever and the fact that she's like talking about it it's like obviously still like effect I don't want to say effect you don't want to like put her in that category but it's like still on her mind you know like that's the first thing she thought of because I you know if someone's like okay who's the smallest d and like that's your first and obviously he kind of confirmed it with his little tiny meat gang thing you know what I mean I don't know

ah ick I don't know anything about Cody Ko I never had anything against him I literally don't know anything about him I knew Brittany was friends I knew people said he was problematic but I didn't I didn't really understand it I knew it was something with Tiana I just didn't know like the age or the age thing was kind of like I guess literally just like seeing it in writing like 25-17 and the fact that she said that she was just like I can say that because I was 17 yeah yeah and like and too for Tiana like

Her brand, especially back then, was, like, she was, like, the cool girl. Like, you know, she was, like – Mm-hmm. It's, like, the guy's dream, you know? Yeah. Like, she never, like, gave anyone a hard time. Like, you could say anything to her. Oh, yeah. She would laugh it off or whatever. So the fact that she's, like, growing up and, like – I mean, still, it's, like, she doesn't, like, victimize herself or anything. No. But she literally just, like – she can call things out now without the pressure of, like – Yeah. Like, that's what she does.

Like that was disgusting. That was inappropriate. And I think that's like so important. Yeah. And it's good because we don't see a lot of girls like that. Not that it's like, again, not a bad thing, but it's like I think a lot of girls do play into that, including me, where it's just kind of like, you know, you just want to be cool. Yeah. You want to be with them. You want to be accepted. Like I'm a cool girl. I can...

Especially when you're young. Especially when you come from a broken home. All that kind of stuff. All attributes to it. You know what I mean? Or if you think – I don't know. Especially influencer. I mean her groups when she was younger were all male-centric. She was like the cool girl of the cool guy groups. Every group. Jake Paul, the Vlog Squad. Bryce Hall. Yeah. She really has. Mod Suns. Yeah. Yeah.

Yeah, and she really was that girl. And a lot of people would use that as an excuse. Like, I remember somebody who was like, it's just Tana. Like, that's who she is, you know? Yeah, you're so right. And it's like, yeah, but it's still not cool. She's a person. Yeah, she's a young woman. Yeah. That's obviously vulnerable and is obviously doing this for a reason. And, like, I relate to that in that sense, too. It's like, yeah, you just are –

I don't know. Try to get somewhere and make a name. People, like, don't give her enough credit a lot of the times, I think. You know, like, literally, like you said, like, people just think, oh, that's just Hannah. Like, she's, like, the wild child or whatever. But she's still, like, a person who has been taken advantage of several times. But then she still, like, handled herself and, like, navigated that whole world so, like...

masterfully to like be able to still you know have a such a successful podcast where it's like literally like a million over a million views every episode you have people like Dave Portnoy trying to like ride her coattails you know what I mean like another guy who's trying to use her and stuff yeah so it speaks a lot to like her talent and people a lot of the time say like

It's because of, like, the Brittany Broski thing, whatever. And, again, I don't want to blow smoke towards Brittany Broski because, like, holding her more accountable than Cody Ko is ridiculous. Like... Yeah, for sure. For sure. She just didn't want to clap and was cheeky about it. So...

But even with that situation, it was like, well, yeah, Theo Vaughn's a comedian. Tana is just Tana. She's an entertainer. The fact that she can hold an audience as well as she does, she may not be a comedian, but she's really entertaining and really smart. No, I hate that too. I hate that thing. Yeah. But people who do defend...

People are also, you know what I mean? And it's like, that's also part of the problem. And like, including, including anybody, you know, it's like, if you are like defending these guys or whatever, it's like, that's a whole other thing or supporting them. Cause I've seen like a lot of his fans be like, well, like he's married with a kid now. Like he shouldn't have to like, uh, deal with all of this. I was like, yeah, you have to, you have to, like, that's why you should account for things as they happen. Like it's already been over account for it before all this. So it's not embarrassing later on. Yeah. Um,

Yeah, well, good for Tana for speaking. Like I said, I know she's not ever someone to be like going to press charges and like he's not going to say anything. So it's good that she can get it out the way she needs to. And yeah, silence usually speaks...

you know what I mean? Like, I cannot stay silent if it's something like that, you know what I mean? It's like, I don't want to say something. And also the fact that Tiana hasn't done like a big, like, expose or, you know, this is like a comment in passing at her live show, you know what I mean? Like, and she has a platform where she could like, do a lot of shit. The fact that she, it's just. That canceled tour. They have, they have all the stories. I know. I wonder, that is crazy. I mean, that is wild and I'm glad people are talking about it. I'm glad people are talking about it because honestly, it could have been just like, well,

Yeah, the fact that people are like, you know, being very supportive about it and like calling it out. I think it's very nice to see. Well, that's a big ick. And if you're an adult sleeping on a 17 year old, you have some issues. Yikes. That's a big yikes. And then also I've seen like Tara get a lot of smoke too from like Tana's fans because a lot of people are saying that she's like copying Tana because she... Oh. Tara is...

went out with Mod Sun and it's unclear if they're like a thing. Oh, I did see that story. Yeah. So a lot of people are saying like she's copying the Tana blueprint because she was like a fan of Tana or whatever. Oh, well, but that's kind of iconic too. I don't know who she is. I'm just saying like it wouldn't make sense. Like you like someone and that person dated that person. I'd be like, yeah. You know, I think I DMed you, DMed Kevin Frowderline, I think, like when I was really young. Yeah. And I'd be like, ooh, this is kind of cool. Like if Brittany dated you, I mean, again, I was young. Don't come for me, Brittany fandom, but like, you know, 23 and you like...

Also, Motsun has dated a lot of people and like not in a bad way, but like he's dated like Bella Thorne and like Avril Lavigne. So, you know, he's kind of like Pete Davidson where I feel like you're like, oh, you dated all these hot girls. Yeah. And now you're interested in me. Although, how old is Motsun? That's a good question. I think he's way too old for her because Tara's like 20, what? 37. Ew. Ew. Ew. Oh, no. And how old is Tara? Like what? 24? 24?

23. Oh my God. Ew. No. Big ew. Why is he hanging out at Barney's Beanery? Like why are you hanging out where all the young influencers are? It's so weird. And you're 37? Grow up. Yeah. Oh my God. That's literally older than me and that's great. I couldn't even imagine going to Barney's Beanery now even if I'm friends with like these girls that are only 10 years younger than me. I still would be like, I don't know. That's weird. I shouldn't be there. Like I don't know.

Am I too old to be here? Yes, you are. Even me, I'm like, I would not. I feel weird there. 30s and trying to be cool with, like, influencers that are, like, 20s. Like, it's one thing to, like, work with them, clap with them, whatever. But then, like, hanging out with them at their bar that they go to. Yeah. Just to, like, be – just, like, to live, like, as if you're that age. You know what I mean? Yeah. Yeah. It's weird. Ew. Absolutely not. Stay away from Hermanson. I don't even know him, but I'm like, that's too old. Just knowing that is, like, enough for me. But also I think that, like –

with tara too you can kind of see it just because she's getting so popular it's like always like the counter like once you get so popular it's like they want to just take you down there was there was a tiktok of someone being like how how long until we all turn on sabrina carpenter and some characters like delete this yes well she got it so bad after like olivia rodrigo like yeah i feel bad like and looking back in retrospect she was really going through it um and

So hopefully, I feel like, you know, she paid her dues. Like, she went through her friggin' bad era. So I feel like she should escape. But, yeah. She should escape. Escape the night. Yeah. But, yeah, Tara, I don't know. But also, like, Tana's obviously, like, so cool with her and doesn't care, obviously, because they literally were dressed out together. Oh, for sure. Tana, you know Tana doesn't care. Anything. Yeah. She likes her new boyfriend. You know, it doesn't matter. She's just, like, so chill. And I think that, like, the

like the blueprint of like it's still like Y2K you know like early 2000s like tabloid culture is all about like the cute girl who's like sweet to other girls but she's like you know she has like the party girl side like the bad girl like she'll go out drink party like that's just like a

it's just like a niche almost. You know what I mean? Totally, yeah. It's not anything. It's very tabloid. It's very like everyone dating the same person. Like I think like Paris Hilton dated like an heir that Lindsay Lohan started dating. He was like a Greek guy or something and everyone was like, oh my God, they're dating the same person now. Yeah. That's just how, I don't know, it is, you know. Yeah. So I feel like

It sucks like to see people coming for Tara. But that's I guess how it goes when you get so popular. Yeah, and I like – obviously like we've texted and she's like actually like so sweet and she actually does get like anxiety over people trying to like cancel her and stuff like that because I think she is like an actual like unproblematic person, like really sweet. And she's like so new to all this and she's so popular and so famous right now. And I think it's just like how do you navigate? And it's hard especially when you're young and you really like someone too. Like if you're really good friends with someone like –

how do you just be like, oh, no, I'm not going to be friends with that person because they're problematic. And she is that person who, like, doesn't care because even when I first met her, I was like, I didn't think she would like me because, you know, I can be considered problematic. And she's like, oh, I don't care what people say about other people. Like, I just go based on how they are. And I get that, too. You know, it's like you just go by how they treat you. Yeah. Without realizing maybe a bigger picture. And it's, like, fine. But the problem is, like you said, the association can, like, just get you canceled and, like, the association with him. But I don't know. Maybe he will never be. They're popular now. So, honestly, like, stick with Jake and Johnny, in my opinion. Yeah.

I didn't know she had that Dropbox podcast where she was the host permanently. I told her, I'm like, you three should have a podcast because that would be so good. And they're good together. Like, I love when the three of them are together. I think they're, like, fun together. So fun. And they – like, Johnny twitches. Like, he livestreams and he goes for, like, eight hours. Like, he's a talker. So, like, they would be able to talk a lot. Yeah. And Tara's a yapper too. Oh, for sure. Yeah. Yeah. No, for sure. They would be – and they all are. So, anyways, I hope they stick together as a trio. Same. I do like that – at least, like, Tara, like –

I mean, she's hanging out with like Pokimane. Like she goes in all the different groups, you know, which is also cool. They're a good friendship because Pokimane is very sweet and Tara's like so sweet. Like she's just like text me your voice memo me and be like, you're, you know, you're so wonderful. Thanks for being nice to me and blah, blah. She'll also be like, you know, people are being really mean to me right now. She like is very like, yeah. So I think she's like a sweet person. Yeah. And Poki's good because she's been through the gambit, but she's also like so business savvy. Yeah. Yeah. And it always comes out on top, like knows how to come out on top on everything. Yeah. She's a really smart. I really like her.

And she keeps spilling the tea. I saw, like, on her Twitch the other day, she talked about, like, how a really, really popular streamer – she wouldn't say a name, but she said someone really, really big. Like, she posted a photo, like, wearing, like, a tank top or something. And this guy, like, DMed her being like, wow, your dad must be so proud of you having your tits out on Instagram. Like, berated her. Oh, my gosh. And as someone who's, like, very, very popular – and this was, like, a couple years ago. But the fact that she, like –

Kind of like a Tana. Like she has it all but she's like I love it. It's like there's power in that. Yeah like let it out and it is and that is the powerfulness of what I was saying about the Tana thing too is like there's like so much power and when you have the power and you're not even like doing it for attention or views or whatever like you have all the views all the attention you're more popular than the other person and you still can call out that behavior. I love that so much. Yeah. Especially Pokimane too. It's like she doesn't have to get this attention but she does and like that's important because she has like a power and she has this like

you know voice we love tana always yeah love and support to her oh my god i feel like i should text her i feel so sad oh it makes me sad like i just feel like she has like gone through so much and it's like she laughs things off and i'm just like oh it makes me sad i know yeah and i think like especially like since you have daughters that like you know i feel like that changes so much too because like same with you like you i feel like you didn't process a lot of the stuff until like then you have daughters and then you think like oh my god if

that I went through happens to them, it's like I would like literally like, you know, kill whoever. Yeah, literally. Why I play the lottery is I can just keep them in a little bubble. It'll be like Bridgerton. I'll just have like suitors come to the house and I'll decide for them. This is your, the prince or the duke. That's it. Yeah, that's the era to be in. I long for that era so much. But, oh, yeah. Wow. Ick. Yeah. What a way to end gay pride. Yeah.

Or Brian. Gay rights. Oh, yeah. Gay rights. Just rights. Queer rights. I don't know. Just rights. Yeah. Queer rights. Queer. We're here and we're queer and there's nothing you can do about it. All right. Period. Do you identify as a gay man or a queer man? Gay, for sure. Yeah. Fully gay. Conviction. Yeah. Gay.

Well, this is what I can identify as queer woman. No, actually not even a woman. Queer person. Period. There you go. Yeah. There we go. Yeah. I don't know. And Moses is water. Yeah. I just identify as water. Okay. Can water be queer? LGBTQIAW+. It's before the body. Like there's no sex or gender to it. Yeah. I love that too.

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