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Or a trick. Or a trick. Put some tricks in that bag. Tricks in that bag. Oh, like a cereal? You meant like a trick on the street? No, no. Like, ooh, turn a trick. I don't know what I'm thinking about. It's like, put a trick in there. I was thinking like, you know, the little, like, paper, the finger chop things. Like, those kind of tricks. Oh. You know, like stick some fingers in there. Oh, my God. That sounds terrifying. What happens if you actually get stuck in there? Can't you just...

cut it out or no oh really but your fingers are touching where you cut it that's true that was scary fear unlocked yeah actually I feel like my fingers like swell up really easily so I'm sure same and I was already chunky so I'm sure my fingers got stuck in it at some point no whenever I put my ring on sometimes it like does not come off it's weird how your fingers fluctuate because sometimes it's so skinny where it's like sliding off sometimes it's so chunky I wonder

That is so life though, right? I feel like that's like our whole bodies in general. Yeah. We love a bloated body. But that's the famous water weight. Right, right. The water weight is where it's at. You look great. Talk about body is tea. Oscar is giving more than Ryan Reynolds. That's for sure. I was like, okay. Okay, body is tea. Mama, there's a Deadpool behind you. I don't know if I used that right, but I see that one too. Oh my God. Who's this diva?

I love you just slinging out gay phrases. Is that what it is? It's so fierce. I just see it all over TikTok. I didn't know when it was gay, but I love it then even more. No, I love all this. Oh my God. Yeah, what a journey it was. I really feel for you now to like the work it takes to get into costume. Like my boyfriend, I don't know. Shout out to him. He's the gay of the day, I would say. Gay of the day. Yeah, he saved the day because he was like,

really corseting me in, pulling it in, getting that zipper up and somehow by the grace of God it happened. It looks good. If it's not, if you don't squeeze into it, it doesn't look right. Otherwise it looks just too big or something. Yeah. So you really do have to, I think Mariah Carey was like sewn into her dresses. That's fierce. Because you just want it to look as tight as possible and it delivered. By the way, found out,

know Oscar's boyfriend has a name this weekend. Oh yeah, Darian. I realized I was like, did you know that? Never heard it. He's like, I'm gonna give this to Darian. I'm like, who's Darian? Because Jimmy has met Darian. So I like referenced, I just called him by his name. And then you were so shocked. And I was like, you know what? It's been a year and I don't think I've ever said his name on the podcast. So shout out Darian. Shout out Darian. Gay of the day. We love it. Super gay of the day. Yeah. Super gay. Super. We love super gay everything. I love that. Um, Euless.

fierce and this was a custom you got not a custom but oh it looks like a cosplay site oh cosplay yeah whoo but yeah it was definitely was a journey um but i feel good and i feel like super i really do but we're not doing our dance i would practice and you're like i was practicing while you were upstairs i think i can do it i was worried about my mobility but i think i got it um you've been so it's a cat's eye dance for context by the way cat's eye is a girl group um

as much context as possible we got the note um yeah they have a song called touch and they have a dance challenge brettman rock just did it so it's like obviously it's popping yeah you've been so out of touch touch touch touch touch thought about you way too much much much much much and then there's one that's done

Oh, yeah. And I've been so, couldn't have my love, but you've been so out of touch. Yeah, yeah, something like that. Yeah, yeah. I've been practicing, though. Yeah, I have been, too. That's why I was like, I thought we were doing it today. No, we have to do it, I think. I was practicing. I think I do got it. I'm more mobile than I thought, to be honest. Like, I thought I really couldn't move, but there's some movement in here. You feel okay? Yeah. Okay.

you look great but I know I mean cosplay is no easy feat that's why I do casual days sometimes sometimes I just want to wear a t-shirt unless you're skinny I fear and then cosplay is so easy I was thinking about that as I was getting dressed I'm like imagine being so skinny you just slip it on and you could do back flips and stuff oh yeah having no rolls where you just sit and it's just like as straight as it was like that's actually the TVM so the skinny privilege really comes out in Halloween time I fear but what can you do skinny privilege everywhere we can go to skinny privilege later let's go on to

Doctor Who or Doctor Strange. I keep getting it mixed up. First of all, you look like Superman to me. I thought it was Superman, which I love. But you're Doctor Strange. You love all the doctors because you love Doctor Who too. So I get it mixed up. Yeah, that's true. Okay. So you – this – okay, I did get him one like yours. Like I did try to go for like the luxury cosplay one. But it took like literally six weeks. And I emailed them like two weeks ago and they're like, it's not going to be ready by then. I was like, I thought these were just like ready to go, like ready to ship, especially because he has a very standard size.

But I did order it. It's going to come. I guess you could be him later on in another one. But you know what? Not bad for Amazon. I wish we had an Amazon affiliate link for this because it looks pretty good on you. It's pretty good. And I can actually wear it. So that's already. Well, you were complaining. You said it was a little hot. Yeah, it's like it's a full suit. Even the feet are encased in. It's like a baby onesies. It looks comfy. To me, it looks comfy. But you said you were warm. Yeah, now it's better because we're not running around. Between you with the full suit.

You have like a pleather. I have a wig. It's like, it's a hot day in here. It's a hot day in October in this podcast studio. But I think it looks great on you. I think you encompass the character. We always saw him in the Superman movie. Which one did we see? Spider-Man movie we saw him in. We saw him in that. He was kind of, he didn't give much, but maybe I'm missing something. Well, he has his own movie, so that's where he gives it. What's his power? Oh, that's where he's giving? And what's he giving? What's his super, do you know? Ah, I'm going to be standing here for a minute. What's your superpower? Yeah.

It seems to be like going between parallel universes and dimensions. He kind of makes a circle and he cuts a hole and he can jump through. Oh, he can go through parallel universes? That's sick. The multiverse. So it's kind of like with his hands. He does a lot of things with his hands. That's why he was in that Spider-Man with all the Spider-Mans? Yes. Sick. I like it. That's actually pretty sick. That's a cool superhero. My biggest superpower is also my cup of the day. Oh, yeah. Oh, the new cup. Yay!

Finally, I've attempted to get him this cup. Well, you know, I can never say his birthday's at the end of the month and I can never save things for his birthday. So I'm like, here, here's your cup. But I didn't know it was a big hit on TikTok. I would have saved it for the birthday. No, I wouldn't wait a day. It's so pretty. Now there's another month that I get to have it. Did you put water in it or you just have it for prettiness? For prettiness. I'm kind of a person that treasures things. Yeah.

You can put it in your water museum. Because they can't make it before I use it, you know. Yeah. I like it. It looks cool. It's so blinky. It's just so pretty. Well, I just thought it went good with the bling cup. So I was like, you know, the his and her bling cup. You know what I mean? You're not on the bling train, right? You don't love bling. I do, but I'm kind of similar to Moses where I'm scared to use, like, carry anything around that's, like, bling. Really? They're so sturdy. I know, but I just, like, I am a collector of sorts. And it's, like, hard for me to use things that are, like, valuable or priceless to me, you know. I used to be like that. But then I'm like, what if you die tomorrow? Yeah.

You might as well use the blink up. I used to save stickers as a kid. And now I don't know where any of those are. Do you? You know where your sticker collection is? Really? What do you do with them? Admire them from time to time. You do? I'm like, since I was a little kid, everything I collected as a little kid, I still have.

Yeah. Well, I guess because your parents lived in the same house. True. It makes it really easy. Yeah. Like, it never lost in a move because it's just in the same spot I left it like 20 years ago. My parents just threw it out every time. We moved – my mom moved at least like probably 10 times my whole like school career and then my dad probably moved like three times and don't know where any of my shit is. I know. I just think one day our kids will like, you know, find their stuff. They're like, oh my God, these are stickers from the 80s of something and –

That's true. They'll find the value in them that we think it has. Or somebody will steal them in your move. Because that happened to my dad. He had papers from when JFK was assassinated. And he's like, these are going to be worth money. I'm going to save them for my kids. And he said it got stolen in a move. Oh. He saved them for a very long time. But he's like, I don't know where they went. I was like, all right. T on that. But we're all Marvel superheroes. Shout out Marvel. Yeah. Limelight is basically a Marvel, right? I definitely am. If I'm Stanley Dark Horse.

- Right? I'm pretty sure. - Well, yes. - Well, yes. - Well, kinda, sorta. - Yeah, you're one of the more like rare, it's hard to find any material, you know what I mean? Like you're actually has more value 'cause it's so rare. - Right, I'm a rare superhero, that's very true. My hair was giving, I thought a little bit Joker, a little, like the original Joker, like the one, not original, the one with Suicide Squad, that Joker. It was giving that Joker. - Oh, yeah, Joe Leto Joker. - Yeah, well, triggered. I feel like he's like a cult leader now.

So the thing is that, also JT from City Girls, she has this one where she has like a green wig and I'm like always want to cosplay her. Because like I've talked about having her come on. I've talked to her manager, but she's like so busy. And I always thought if she came on, I'd wear this green wig. But she may never come on. So I'm wearing it now as limelight 2.0 and then pink, of course, to go with the thing. But yeah, I really wish I could be a superhero again. I wish I could go back on that show and –

know my superpowers, but Stan Lee is no longer with us, so I don't know if that's possible. R.I.P. Maybe, you know, they love a reboot, though. You never know. Of the show, or just like... Of the show, yeah. I love it. I would love a second chance at it. Me and Fat Mama, we should have Fat Mama on today's episode. You know her, right? Oh, yeah, that's true. I do know her. Is her name Nell? Allison. Oh, Allison Nell? I don't know her life. Okay, we should have Fat Mama on. She would have brought the donuts today. That would have been so much fun, but I

season and we're going off we're starting off with a bang I feel I know and we still have so many weeks left it's actually overwhelming especially because we have so many hot topics we only have one day that we have a guest but like we have so many hot topics and I was just thinking like oh my god I'm kind of overwhelmed by all of it yeah because we kind of have to serve every episode now I know we really really do and then our final one we have now a total of seven people from the Jets Trish crew are going to be in costume my sister was very excited about the Hunger Games and

I love that. I was going to keep it as a surprise, but she, I gave her a list. I even showed pictures. I sent pictures to them of a list of characters you can have to pick. And my sister's like, I think I'm going to go with Haymitch. I was like,

That's what I've been saying. I love Haymitch. I was like, that's kind of everything. I was like, I kind of love that she picked that. Like a plethora of people she could have picked from. Who was the girl from Catching Fire we didn't know? Joanna Mason. Joanna Mason. I loved her outfit in the poster. She's obviously significant enough. She had her own Catching Fire poster. Oh, yeah. She's fierce. Yeah. Her, Rachel Zegler, I thought she might pick, but she went with Haymitch. I'm like, all right, T.

I feel like she would really serve. It would be like a sleigh haymitch. You know what I mean? Oh, I think so too. I think she's going to come with lashes. Yeah. So I've got to figure out the whole arrangement. But I think we got it. And yeah, we have a really good Sina outfit. He picked out one you wouldn't expect. So I'm very excited. I'm very excited for this Halloween season. But it is overwhelming. Plus,

We have family costumes. We have two family costumes. We should do a costume competition when everyone is here. I don't know if the audience decides or... How would that work? We're already done filming when we are in this. The comments or something. We have to figure out a way. The following week we announce the winners? Or here everyone votes and we put it in a thing. Four years. That's how long it took Democrats to ruin our economy and plunge our southern border into anarchy.

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But I feel bad then. Everyone else is like a loser. And it's also kind of nepotism, right? Everyone's just like, Trish, you win. Kind of like Dressed to Impress where everyone was giving me five stars. Yeah, I don't want that. Even though I would have loved that, but I didn't feel... Yeah. Yeah.

That's a tough one. Then someone feels bad. We have like best female best supportive. Oh, yeah. You know, best photographer costume, best co-host costume. Best interpretation. That would actually be sick. I'm actually very impressed that everybody is getting their own pieces because I literally offered to every single person. I was just like, let me help you, let me help. And everyone's just like, I can manage.

I can manage. I was like, okay, damn. It's even cooler. I can't wait to see what everyone comes up with because I was like, no, but I can like slay a cosplay. But I like that everyone's coming up with their own thing. I think it's going to be really cool. You have pickles on there. Is that a snack or is that like a promotion? Oh. I won't give it away. I won't give it away. I was just like so confused. I'm like, I've never seen pickles down there. Oh, is there like a tasting contest we're having?

It's not a contest. I mean, that is a good segue into the hot topic. I was, I'm so, all of a sudden I just saw a whole little thing down there. Yeah, it was a little gag. Honestly, as I was prepping this gag, I was like, it's kind of giving like today's show, it's kind of giving like Hoda. And I was like, oh, perfect, because you want to be Hoda. But then also, I saw this morning, Hoda did it this morning. So I was like, what? How did my mind, did I just like think? Wait, is it a trend? It's a trend. Okay, so. I thought you came up with it. I was like, whoa. No, no, no.

You're feeding her the ideas. So, you know, you're aware of Dua Lipa. I love Dua Lipa. The mermaid and Barbie. Yes, yes, yes. So she went viral over the weekend for her spicy diet Coke recipe. It sounds sinister for sure. And it's always the prettiest girls that drink the most like sinister drinks. I fear like she went viral before for her little recipes because she had like an olive oil ice cream. Oh, she started that? I remember.

remember that one. Yes. So this is not the first time she's had a viral little food concoction, but this one, she posted a TikTok in Austin where she was in town for the Austin City Limits Music Festival and she stopped by a little barbecue restaurant and documented her little Diet Coke recipe. So it starts with a cup of ice and

And then obviously Diet Coke. And then this is where it gets a little dubious. She adds in pickle juice. And a few slices of pickles fell in as she was adding the pickle juice. And she kind of just rolled with it, which is sick because you know how we feel about pickles. You love them? No, you hate them too. No, I hate them too. Why are we doing this? I'd rather do that.

Everyone's going to be sick. The problem is that if she's going to smell like pickle for the whole episode, she's going to be like. Oh, my God. Pickle is the most nauseating. Remember even for ASMR, I was like gagging. I cut so much of it. It's like literally the craziest taste. Well, it gets a little bit worse. Oh, no. I can't. The next part to add the spice, she adds jalapeno juice. And again, some jalapenos fell in. It seemed by accident. She seemed a little shocked when the jalapenos fell in. But again, she like went with it.

And she said that there was people looking at her in the restaurant like, what the hell are you doing, Dua? And then all the comments, too, were like, girl, what is this? She had pickles in the restaurant? How did she get pickles? Oh, I guess she just had pickles? Pickle juice? I guess she was Dua Lipa. She says, can I have a jar of pickles? And they're like, yes. Yes, Dua. And she's just getting the juice out of it. I hope she bought the whole jar. I know, right? Because that's wild to send it back. Add it to the tab, at least. Okay. She probably paid for it. Yeah, I think she can afford a jar of pickles if we can. Yeah.

They're expensive these days. Inflation is crazy. So I was like, it'd be kind of a gag to try it, right? It is giving daytime talk show vibes. Yeah, let's do it. Put it as is.

doing it. I thought that was a good sell. I was like, let me market it like it's something Hoda would do and she did. And she did. I love. I'm aiming for that Hoda position. I would love to. I'm scared. Do you want me to mix it? Put it together? Yeah, maybe. Only because also it looks like you can't move. Yeah, my mobility is. Thanks, Moses. He's bartender and props.

This is a bartending table. It's like Watch What Happens Live. It is gonna be Watch What Happens Live. Moses is the bartender and his doctor. Oh, I kind of live for like the cape. Yeah. Don't put any of mine. Hide the cape. Just kidding. I will try it out. It's kind of fun. Jimmy should make this a clip for TikTok. Ew. But also booze. She thinks you're select. You went with the fancy? Oh, it was the cheapest on Vaughn. Really? She didn't use a spoon. She just poured it in there. He said the juice. Yeah.

So you gotta just try and aim for the juice. Okay, I love all the colors. It's the colors of our iPhones. Pink, blue, and black. We love that. Shout out the new iPhone 16 Plus. Shout out iJustine who invented the new iPhone. Oh my god, I'm actually so excited to try it. If Dua Lipa likes it and if Hoda's doing it, I really gotta aim for that position. Do you think they need experience to be on that show?

Probably a little bit, but you probably have more experience than most. Right? You hosted 120 episodes? No? Do you think I can put that on my resume? Yeah. Most of them get the experience on the show. You think Al Roker just started fresh? I remember Jimmy Kimmel was horrible when he started. He still is. How did he get a show, honestly? You know what I mean? He was kind of awful, but... Which one was that? That was...

on yellow green. Oh my gosh. I'm so scared. When did we become this show? We're like Fear Factor all of a sudden. I know. When I was ordering it, I was like, is she going to be down for this? But I'm like, if I show up with the pickles, there's no going back. Of course. You put in the effort. This is some real producer. This is the dicey one. Honestly, I'd rather have jalapenos in my Coke. That makes more sense than pickles. Like, I don't mind a jalapeno on some nachos or... This episode is brought to you by our friends at Seeki.

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Cheers. Cheers over there. Oh, you look good with the black. Oh, everyone matches. They're okay. Thank you. I love it. Okay. So we mix it up. Oh, it even smells. I'm scared. Did you do it? I think mine's diluted enough. Oh. It's not bad. Oh, it's pickly. It's pickly. That is pickly. You think? I'm not gagging. I think it's more jalapeno. That is pickly. I see it.

I see how in a world someone can find it like a nice, you know, a mix on a Diet Coke. That's what I'm saying. It kind of gives me like Diet Coke lime. Kind of, yeah. I don't mind it. It tastes like I'm at a ballpark eating. He's like, leave. He's like, I'm going to go grow it up. Multiverse out of here. Yeah.

I wish Jimmy could multiverse. That'd be so sick. Jimmy's superpowers on this one. It's giving like nachos at a baseball game and then I took a swig of Coke while I had it in my mouth. And you still had, yeah. That's where I get that. I definitely get that. Do I love it? No, but I don't hate it. Actually, I hate it. Ew, and the yellow juice is looking like... I actually really hate it. I don't hate, but I'm definitely not drinking the rest. Sorry, this is all chaotic. Oh my gosh. Well, what did Hoda say?

Oh, let's see. Let me see what she... Was she like... I mean, honestly, she's my new hero. She's your superhero? Yeah. Yeah, she's my superhero. It was Ellen last week. It's Hoda this week. I think we could wrap the show up here, actually. And that's our show. That's it. This is fun. You're a very good producer. You should have done more of this with Joey. You know what I mean? That would have been so fun. Like you guys in superheroes testing pickle juice. Bye. Woo!

Joey just constantly brought up... We also want Joey to be Finnick. Finnick. His dream of being Finnick. Joey, do you want to come on? But it's kind of a chaotic episode because there's seven people going to be here. So it might be crazy. But he does have a Finnick costume. I'm sure ready to go. The pumpkin bag. I think his Finnick costume was just like him shirtless with like a little net. Oh, really? I think so. Is that...

Yeah, I love it. That's cute. It's a serve for sure. I'm serving. Is it weird that I don't taste anything at all? I taste it. Oh, I taste the jalapeno. Dang, the jalapeno's spicy. I like it. Okay, so I'm the Hoda and you're the Jenna Bush Hager. No, yeah, what? Because she, in this circumstance, Hoda hated it and then Jenna didn't really taste the pickles. She tasted more jalapeno. Oh, it's kind of like...

Kind of like the dress. Like who sees the white and the gold versus the blue and black. Wait, is Jenna Bush a co-host? Oh my God. Is she a co-host? She's with, it's Hoda and Jenna. Oh. Oh. Right? Yeah. Is she like more like liberal these days? I don't know. I don't know either. Jenna Bush. Isn't that like George W. Bush's like daughter? Daughter, yeah. Oh, that's wild. Maybe I can't host it. It's like a Fox News all of a sudden over there. Wild. Okay.

Interesting choice from Kathie Lee to Jenna. Maybe she's more like liberal than we think with her views. Probably. It's pretty wild. It's like having Elizabeth Haslback co-host with Hoda or something. Yeah, back in the day. I feel like in the George W. Bush era, like it was not as like intense political lines as it is these days. Now we're like, that wasn't that bad. Yeah, exactly. Bring it back.

I know nothing. I don't know. I'm just going with it. That's wild. Okay, well, I don't think I'm going to get that job then. Just in general. You never know. No, yeah. I don't think so.

Well, that's interesting. Yeah. It's kind of like, yeah, it's kind of like seeing like how you see things. It's like, what are those things called? Like optical illusions. Yeah. Where you would like see a woman's face or you would see like a couple kissing or something like that. And I guess everyone's like palates are different, right? Like. Yeah. As far as like what we taste. You know, like how some people cilantro tastes like soap and then. No, I never had cilantro. You've never heard this? There's people that cannot have. Yeah. This tiny piece of cilantro and they'll throw the whole food away. Have I had cilantro?

Where would it be on? Mexican food probably. With nachos, huh? With many things we've used it. Like the little one? I think I like it. Do you like it? No. It tastes like soap to me. Maybe you just have a really picky taste. More than me even because the fact that you're like, nope, I hate it. I'm like, I didn't hate it. But maybe I had more Diet Coke than you. Maybe I was more diluted. That's wild. Maybe you're more picky than me. You think? I probably am more pickier than you. I think so too. I've never met a more picky eater than me. Do you have a wide range of food you eat? No. I have a very basic. It's like chicken, bacon.

Chicken, rice. Really? Some vegetables. Not a lot. Wow. You eat pizza? Yeah. So you have chicken. But plain pizza. Yeah, but that's a variety. I'm trying to think of your... You don't do sushi. No sushi. At all? I don't eat any fish. Sea life. No fish. Oh, wow. For moral reasons or just you don't like the taste? I think it's a texture thing, but also it feels too close to home. You know what I mean? Oh, because you own fish? Yes. It's like...

I don't know. I feel the moral responsibility. Okay. See? Yeah. I love it. Okay. Save the fish is your standpoint. I like that. That's cute. What about steak? You don't eat steak, red meat, burgers? I eat burgers, but I prefer turkey burgers. Why? What? Ew. I love turkey, but I don't like a turkey burger. I just really like red meat. I don't know. Oh, my God. Yeah. I'm really plain. There's some good turkey burgers. Yeah. There's some good ones. Yeah. Mmm.

Challenge accepted. I can't find one. Let us know where Good Turkey Burger is. That's wild. Oh, my gosh. I just can't get over Jenna Bush hosting. Like, she can't have any experience hosting, can she? Does she? Probably not before she got the job, I don't think. Maybe she did, like, correspondent work or something. I don't know. High nepotism, huh? Well. You think? I feel like having a dad who's a former president goes a long way. That's wild. And his dad. They're like the most, I mean, like,

- One of the biggest family in America. - I think this is where I might just have a little problem with nepotism, just in this sense, because it's like, okay, I get like following in your like father's footsteps, right? Like Johnny Depp, Lily Rose Depp, okay, you're following in the family business. But like, I get it, she went into politics, but like going into like the Today Show, that's so random. You're like, my dad's the president, I can have anything I want. I'm gonna do the Today Show, like with Hoda, the fourth hour, you know, it's kind of random. - Usually the grandkids ends up like in the arts.

Who else? What are the grandkids of a celebrity? In general, people that are rich businessmen or rich politicians or royalty, like the younger ones, end up in the creative field. Malia and Sasha Obama are kind of in the arts, I think. What are they two? I think one of them is acting. I think they go to film school and stuff, yeah. More power. Isn't Bush, he paints, right? He gives paintings to people. Does he? George W. Bush does? Jimmy. Jimmy.

Jimmy, insert. Insert some of his paintings. Well, Call Her Daddy had Kamala Harris on this week. We're going to have George W. Bush next week. I mean, the war he had was not... Oh, right. TTT. All right. Well, never mind. Let's just stay out of it. I saw Call Her Daddy at Kamala. We haven't seen it yet. It probably comes out tonight or something, right? I saw clips already. Oh, you did? Yeah, there's clips. Did she look fierce? What's she wearing? Kamala? Yeah. She looked really good. And then Alex Cooper loved that girl in a hoodie. Sweatpants?

I can't stand it. Can't stand it. It's actually wild. It's actually wild. Like, even if that's your whole shtick, right? Like, you're meeting, like, the vice president of the United States. Like, how are you not?

A blazer. Yeah, a blazer. Blazer with some sweatpants. Put a hoodie under the blazer. Whatever it takes. Honestly. Right? A blazer over the hoodie could have been kind of fierce. Like a mix of the brands. Right. Yeah, that could have slayed. Because I bet Kamala was in a pantsuit. Yeah, she looked really good. Her top was kind of structured. It was fierce. I'm not going to lie. And then, yeah, Alex Hooper.

I mean, she's sticking to her guns, you know? She's like, I'm wearing sweat. I did a comic cosplay in 2020. Did you guys show it? I still have the jacket upstairs. It cost me $10,000. What? And I could never wear it.

okay, you know I love everything bling. Well, Kamala wore for Pride in 2020. Do you know which one? No. The rainbow. Okay, I have it upstairs, but honestly, you should get it because it's actually crazy to try to put on. It's up in my green closet. Maybe by the end of the episode, we'll go run up and get it, but it's literally like this denim jacket, and it's like blinged, like the rainbow flag. It goes with my rainbow working, actually. Wait,

And it's a bling rainbow flag denim jacket. And I was so obsessed with it when she came out with it. I got it made. I had to pay $10,000 to get it made because it was like so many crystals. The problem is it was so many crystals. Like it's stiff. Like you can't even put your arms in it. It's like solid. It's solid blue or something. I don't know what happened. And I was like, I don't know. It's still iconic. I remember when you got it. And I was so excited to wear it. And then I couldn't wear it. I remember it was like, I was like, wait a minute. Something is wrong here. It's just like so stiff. Yeah.

If we don't do it now, I'll just go to B-roll. But it looks... I was the original cosplayer of Kamala's sound. I was right where when she came on, honestly. But I guess... Call her daddy gets Katy Perry over me. I did the music video. How was I?

Plus she has so much money. Oh my God. 180 million, 60 million. But she also interviewed you. So you, Katy Perry, Kamala Harris. You're on the other side of the microphone. And Chris Olsen. And I mean, shout out all of it. I'm just saying. Love Island. Yeah. Which again, love. Honored. Happy to be involved. Well, you know how it is to get guests. You need to fill in the dates. But I'm saying that. Not us. We do quality here. That's why we haven't had one in a while. I like Chris Olsen though. That's tea. I don't think I'd prefer Chris Olsen over Kamala Harris. Well, no. Equal.

Chris Olsen over Love Island will say that. That is fair. Yeah, yeah. I wouldn't know what to ask Kamala. Like, I was looking at the questions and I was like, oh my God, like, she was asking already, like, the one question I saw was so in-depth.

you know what it was yeah it went well i think right like she was asking really like specific questions and usually sometimes they like really dog on alex's like interview skills i found but like i've the reception i've seen so far was like all really positive so yeah she's like people are scared to have kids because it's so expensive like what are you gonna do about it and then they cut it off and i was like oh i wouldn't know what they're gonna do about it because that's the tea of it yeah i mean they'll probably send you the questions you know what i mean oh right right right

I did have a guest once that were like, we have to have the questions approved. I was like, they come off the spot. Like, I can't approve these questions. Yeah, I can cut whatever they want. It's such a weird request. But I guess if you're the vice president, I guess it's different.

How was your weekend? But I think we already went over that. Oh, did you see Joker? Did you end up seeing it? Oh, I did end up seeing Joker. Yes. Why didn't you tell me? I was going to see it if you saw it. Because it was a last minute decision last night. I was going to see a different movie, but then I ended up seeing Joker. And it was like 8.30. So it was already too late in the game. I was going to see an Aubrey Plaza movie, my oldest. Oh, yeah. But... That's my next podcast. Honestly, the title is Slave. It is. I love it. The title is so good. Um...

And I think I was swayed to see Joker because the hate campaign against it is so fierce. And you know what? Whenever there's a hate campaign, I'm intrigued by it. You know what I mean? I want to get to the bottom of it. Couldn't care less to see it two weeks ago. Now I was like, I need to see it. Now I was like, what is going on with it? Yeah. But I knew it wasn't going to be for me. And it was not for me. It was confirmed. Yeah. So who was it for? Because my hairstyle says Gaga Stan. He has Gaga tattooed on him. And he's like hated it. Really? Yeah. Fell asleep. That's what I'm saying. They...

Usually you can kind of tell where the hate campaign is coming from, you know? But this one's kind of coming from all ends. It's firing on all cylinders. Critics hate it. Gaga fans hate it. And that group of girlies, gays. But also the Joker fans, the straight men who wanted to see the Joker do his thing also hated it. So it's

It just didn't please anyone. It is a huge flop. It allegedly had a budget of $190 million to $200 million, but the director, Todd Phillips, has shot that down, but everyone else in the studio has kind of made it seem like it was that much. What, he said it's less than that? He's saying it's less, but...

I think a lot of people are saying that it is $200 million budget. And it only made $40 million at the domestic box office. And it was originally projected at $70 million. So it's a huge fall from grace. Wow.

that's crazy. Cause I feel like everyone on TikTok saw it. They're all like, I hate this movie. So it's like, it's like it ends with us. Everyone was so pissed about it, but they went to go see it anyways. But I'm surprised they didn't make more. So it ends with us and made more? Uh, well, it ends with us. His budget was also like a lot smaller. I think the opening weekend was around like 30 something for it ends with us. But because this is like a big comic book movie, um,

The budget was just humongous. And obviously, like, a big chunk of that budget went to the talent, like Joaquin Phoenix, Todd Phillips, the director, and Lady Gaga. But it also made history as the worst rated cinema score. Cinema score is, like, a score that, like, they poll people as they exit the movie. And usually, cinema scores, like, are...

It's hard to get like a bad score really. Like usually like C is kind of the lowest. But Joker got a D cinema score. It's the lowest for any comic book movie ever. Still passing. But there's never been an F. Oh, really? Yeah. Now that's the ultimate if you get an F on your movie. That's crazy. Okay. Well, who else was a D list? Do we know anybody else who had a grade D? Another one. No, this is like the lowest. Like even Madame Web. Remember the whole. Oh, yeah. Black Odyssey Plus. Oh.

At least it had Sidney Sweeney's boobs in it. So they're like, we'll watch it. And I feel like when you went into Madame Web, you know what you were getting. Like, it looked a mess from the jump. And you knew Sidney Sweeney was going to be hot in it. You knew Dakota Johnson was going to be Dakota Johnson in it. But I think a lot of people with Joker also, like, they didn't market it as a musical. And even though fans knew it was a musical, they would still market it as, like,

It's a movie that has musical sequences in it, but it's not a musical. Girl, that's a musical. Was it, though? Did they bust out a song at random moments, or did it make sense? Because I saw the one where she's playing at a piano, and he's tap dancing or whatever. I was like, well, that makes sense if they're in a bar and they're performing. I feel like some musical sequences made sense, but there's too many of them, and a lot of them were written poorly into it. I think...

a big problem was just the writing, the editing, the concept. Everything. Everything except the performances because there's like the toxic male fan base that's like, they made it a musical because of Lady Gaga, Lady Gaga, Ruin Joker, which is not the case. Like Lady Gaga, I mean, the performances are great in it. Lady Gaga and what she is in it is serving down when like she's an actress. You like the songs because Gay Godson's were like, this is not it. Um, I think her acting, her acting was really, really good. But you don't like the songs. Um,

Um, no. But I like her acting. Interesting. Well, that's good. That's something. I think her performance is great. I think that there is probably a better movie that is on the cutting room floor somewhere because they cut so much of her scenes out for some reason. How are people seeing them? Because I saw the cut scene of her on the stairs singing. So they filmed in downtown L.A.,

at the courthouse so there was so many paparazzi there because it's LA you know oh I see so they got it yeah so and that was like last year so everyone kind of was already anticipating the films there's like a moment where she's like leaving the courthouse and she's being like all wacky and then she talks to this random like woman on the street like who's like in the crowd being like boo joker boo and then like she goes and she makes out with her and they cut that out oh yeah wow interesting yeah it's so weird I wonder if it's

like they did test audiences and they're like oh we don't like this another this isn't confirmed but what reports are saying there wasn't even like a test like an audience test screening for it they're like we're just putting this out cold raw dogging it and then they put it out the venice film festival and now there's well they give everything over there standing ovation there at least well now there's all these tiktok to me out with like people trying to read joaquin phoenix and lady gaga's lips because they're talking as they're doing the standing ovation

And people are being crazy though because they're saying like Joaquin Phoenix like, oh yeah, it was terrible and stuff. Like they're adding all these crazy words. But it doesn't make sense. And also like people in the audience said that Todd – the director Todd Phillips and Joaquin Phoenix left during the movie because they can't watch themselves act or something and then came back for the end.

In this particular movie, they couldn't watch themselves or in general? In general, I guess Joaquin Phoenix doesn't really watch himself. I hate when people say that. Like, suck it up. Like, just suck it up. You're the star of the film. You're going to leave? That's so weird. I don't like it either, but watch it. Like, you're with people there. That's so annoying. So how do you improve your craft if you don't watch it? And he's probably perfect. He won an Academy, or he's nominated for Academy Award winners. Did he win it? He won it for Joker, the first one. Yeah. Oh, that's tragic. Isn't that so sad? Like, that's like, you win an Oscar and everyone's like, this sucks.

This sucks. You run an Oscar, you make a billion dollars on the movie. That's why Point Lady Gaga, she probably signed on thinking like, yes, this is going to be big. And then it ended up being a chop. But also like, what is she supposed to say? No, we always talk about this. It's like, if there's a sequel, Joaquin 2, he's probably like, give me that money. You know what I mean? And if it was hit the first time, why not try it again? You know, if someone asked me to be part of a flop franchise, I'd be like, yeah, I'll do it. You know what I mean? What's a flop franchise that I would like love to be a part of?

part of that? That everyone like, oh, Shazam. I'll be in Shazam 3. I would love to. Only if we had Ziegler signs on because we would be in it together. She unfollowed Zachary Levi, I believe. Oh, why? The guy from Tangled? So weird. I can't believe

he's kind of a loser wait what yeah here's a lot of bad hot takes yeah wait really how do people even know what he thinks i never even hear anything because he uses his platform and not a lot of people follow him so i maybe i think that's why literally what do people know him for no no shade no tea but like shazam entangled oh he was in shazam who was he the lead character's name shazam

Okay. I swear there was a Shaquille O'Neal movie called Shazam. Like, Jimmy, look it up. I swear it is. I think you're right about that. Right? Yeah. When I was a kid. Was he a genie or am I making that up? Okay, period. I think it was Shazam. Is that an app too? The Shazam app? Oh my God, you're so right. Yeah. What does Zachary Levi's hat take? He's just like... Awful. Yeah, he's kind of just awful. He...

thinks that he's more talented than he is. He like recently came out, he's like, he came out of some like Trump conference or something, like some campaign thing. And it was like, I'm the only one in Hollywood brave enough to support Donald Trump. It's like, okay, you and Bryce Hall are so brave, like relax. Yeah.

And then he went on this whole like tirade and then a lot of people unfollowed him that like worked with him before. He's kind of just sucks all around. All right. We'll replace him. Who could replace him? You. I'm Shazam. Yeah. I could probably take the lead. Love it. Yes, absolutely. It'd be like the Madame Web of Shazam universe.

That would be – ew, I hate that guy. Okay, I hate it. Yeah, it kind of sucks. But, I mean, the concept – yeah, right? Like, if you were offered a role, even if it's, like, a floppy, you know, franchise, you got to kind of go for it. For sure. Because you never know. No, we were talking about – I think it was on our Patreon extended, Lauren Gray being in that Netflix. Oh, yeah. And her role was getting, like, poop dumped all over her. I was like, honestly, I would take it, too. Like, you know what I mean? Whatever you can get to be in that Netflix movie, I'm going to take. So – Yeah. Yeah, especially Joker, too. Joker, too. He's like, oh, I want you to – yeah, of course.

Joker 3 put me in. Harley Quinn. Yeah, of course. Like, why would you say no? Yeah, exactly. Especially, like, it's, like, hearing the cast, like, before all this kind of happened, like, the idea of Lady Gaga as Harley Quinn in this kind of, like, dark, serious kind of Joker universe, I was like, kind of a slay. And I was sad that it did not end up slaying. I read the spoilers, and I'm not going to spoil it, but I read the spoilers, and it did sound horrible. Yeah. I was kind of like, awful, awful way to end a movie. Yeah, it is really sad. I mean, they didn't,

Todd Phillips, the director, said during the first Joker press tour that it was a one and done. It was not supposed to be a sequel. But I think Warner Brothers came and was like, listen, I made a billion dollars. We've got to make another one. Oh, Warner Brothers put it out? Yeah. It's a WB movie. And it's weird because they've been kind of slaying lately. Oh, Beetlejuice? Beetlejuice? Slaying. Beetlejuice is the 10th, as of right now, the 10th biggest movie of the year. Shout out

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Although I did see some influencers actually on the Joker red carpet, hashtag WB partner. So that's like wild. So they're like getting paid to go to those carpets? Yeah. Look at like a Tara Yummy at Beetlejuice. I don't think she went there just for... Really? I would go there for free. That's crazy. I think that's why. I think you say that you go to all these things for free. Actually, I won't. I've never been to a premiere and I'm not going to until I get my bag. That's crazy.

That's actually crazy that they pay people for that because you really don't need promotion for like Joker too. I saw so many influencers going for that and I was like, do you really need promotion for this movie? I know. That's what I was kind of thinking too. Like a Selena Gomez movie, for example. I know like the Amelia Perez. Do they need influencers for that? Did they? I don't think so. But like even like press opportunities and stuff. I'm like, does Selena Gomez really need to do all these like interviews to Selena Gomez? But I think maybe because I never heard that movie before you brought it up last time. Okay, T, then yeah, maybe so. Because I would agree with you, but I feel like Joker is like –

It's like Beetlejuice. It was just like everywhere. Like Denny's, you know. It's kind of... Or like a Wicked. Like Wicked is literally everywhere, right? Yeah, that's true. Like you can't go into a store and not see Wicked. So many launches for Wicked coming up. Like literally everywhere, everything. It's pink and green. Yeah. I kind of love that though. I love pink and green. I'm already Wicked. I'm already... That's actually crazy because pink does go good with green. Yeah, that's... I'm excited. Yeah, Target has it. Starbucks. Everything is doing Wicked. I like it. I think it's going to be bigger than Barbie, honestly, because it just seems more...

It's something for everyone. It's not just the Barbie girls, right? You also have the green. You have the Elphaba's of the world. So I feel like... And then you have hot guys like Ethan Slater, Jonathan Bailey, Jeff Goldblum. You have like, you know, I think it's going to be sick. I know. Especially if the Joker flopped. Like it all kind of is up to Wicked to kind of save movies for the end of the year. There hasn't been a... But not Warner Brothers because it's universal. It's universal. So...

Sorry, Warner Brothers, you flopped. Hashtag no longer WB invited. But you did serve on Beale Drew, so I guess they don't care. Yeah, I don't know. Honestly, like, I mean, it sounds horrible, but I still want to see it. So maybe I'll go see it this week. I just don't have time. I wasn't going to go see it this weekend. It's long, too. Yeah. Is it? How long? Like two and a half hours? I think it's two and a half, yeah. So it's a commitment. I feel like that's why Joaquin Phoenix didn't promote it. He's probably just like, this is trash. Yeah.

Maybe. Because why didn't he? That's so weird. It was just Lady Gaga everywhere. So she's like really going to try and sell it. He's like, I can't sell this. Sorry. Yeah. And there was like one interview clip. They did a couple interviews together in the UK randomly. And then there was one where they got asked like, oh, so you saw the film? Like, what did you think of it? And then they just started laughing. Cool. Lady Gaga and Joaquin Phoenix. Oh, no. They're like. Well, you've seen it. Is it everything you expected? Yeah.

Tell them how you feel, Joaquin. Which is always the worst. Yeah, like it is. I just feel like they really should have stopped again. I'm not like a Batman Joker fan, but it seems like everybody wanted it to stop after Heath Ledger. They're just like, that should have ended the Jokers right there. Yeah, the show kind of has to go on for the Joker, because it is such an iconic character, and you can't have Batman without Joker, I guess. But there was no Joker in the Robin Pattinson one, right? There was. Barry Keoghan. Oh, for like a second. Yeah.

And I was like, that movie was awful, actually. So maybe that should have been. Got Barry Keoghan as Joker. I don't like it. You know what? You know when you see someone too much now, again, it's kind of like the Pedro Pascal effect. When you just see someone so much, you're kind of like, okay, I'm going to like over it. You see Jonathan Bailey a lot. Okay, but that's different. I love how we're never bringing him up, but I do think about him all the time. That's different because he's actually a leading man. You know what I mean? I just...

I think the ones that are scary looking, they just kind of like, you know, like the Joaquin Phoenix. You know, not in a bad way. The character's scary, right? They're scary. Yeah, I see what you mean. You know, very cute. It's just like, it's a lot to see them so much. Whereas Jonathan Bailey, you can see him as many times as you want. Because he's sweet. Because he's just that perfect, yeah. He's just a perfect little face. But, yeah. Yeah.

Barry Keoghan's the greatest actor Sabrina Carpenter knows, she said. Did you see that? Oh, yeah. In the interview. This is why I want to do Hoda because that show that Sabrina Carpenter was on where she's like on the couch next to the girl, you know, the lady. Yeah. What show is this? Is this like an English show or is it an American show? I think it was American. It was like Sunday morning show. I've never heard of it. I think it was CBS Sunday, I believe. Okay. Well, they were both in all black and the woman was older too. I was like, I want to be that older blonde woman interviewing. How do I get that position? You probably started young, huh? They probably don't hire old people. Yeah.

She probably worked her way up. Yeah. It was the CBS Sunday Morning Show. So random. Sabrina Carpenter was giving a serious interview. I kind of loved it. And she said, why did you cast him? And he was the greatest actor. I was like, that's kind of a stretch. She's like, I thought of the greatest actor. Who would I want in my music video? And she said, Barry Keoghan. Didn't she say the greatest actor I know? Yeah.

Who's the greatest actor I know? Yeah. I feel like that's a good, like, qualifier. Oh, like, personally? I thought it was just, like, who's the greatest actor that I... I think she meant, like, greatest actor I know. Like, who could I ask? Like, what actor do I know personally that... And then she said that Barry Kogan was in the chair next to her. So she was like... Oh. So, like, one on one. She's like, okay. I don't think she's, like, the most prolific actor in the history of cinema. Oh. I was like, that's...

A crazy statement. I mean, maybe. Maybe he is. I don't know. I can't judge acting. But I mean, who do you think would be the best actor of all time? Greatest actor? Like if I had to cast someone for my music video? Yeah. That's a good question. Who would I want? I think I would want Pedro Pascal. I feel like you say that just to annoy me. What? I feel like he's not booked enough. I feel like Pedro needs to be more. You're full of shit.

There's no way. He is just everywhere. Shove down our throats constantly, all day, every day. For real? I kind of do think. I'm trying to think who else. Like if you did a music video like Ariana did with the guy from You, you would have Petra Pascal. Oh, like a Penn Badgley moment. Yeah. Who's another actor I really love? Um...

Timothy Chalamet, for me, is the one that I see too much. Like, I really wouldn't want Timothy. Yeah, Timothee. I'm kind of over Timothee. I mean, he has great talent, but I feel like I just see him too much. He's booked a lot. He seems more... I wouldn't want him next to me, just, like, size. Size-wise, yeah. I don't want to say it, but, you know. We all know. Because I just...

Yeah, I don't know. Yeah. Not that Jonathan Bailey is, you know, like, humongous. Who, actually, I'm going to... Don't you say him. I'm going to say Cooper. Cooper Coach. Oh. Or Koch. Koch. Koch. I don't know. Coach, maybe. I don't know. Or Koch. I don't know. Or Koch. He is fine. Yeah. He's like the new... I feel like the new It Boy. Really? The two boys from the Menendez Netflix show. I think they're... I mean, the other one's name is Charlie, I think, right? Yeah.

I don't know. I have no idea. Because both of them are kind of private, right? They're both like not on social media. Yeah. Oh, Nicholas Chavez. Yeah, I see that name everywhere. They're both like all over the place right now. Like I think there's a lot of fan edits of them. Really? Yeah, they're really popular. But Nicholas is already in the Grotesquery show, the other Ryan Murphy one. So he's doing double duty. He's like, these boys are hot. Let me keep them. Yeah.

That makes sense. You make him stars. You might as well. Yeah. He seems to do that a lot, right? Ryan Murphy is like the same people. Yeah. I feel like he has his muses like Sarah Paulson. I love her. Evan Peters. She's good at everything. Yeah. Oh, Evan Peters has been more. Oh, he's doing that new one with them. Yeah. He did Dahmer. He did a lot of American Horror Stories. Emma Roberts, obviously. She's a queen. Honestly.

Honestly, actually, all those are kind of slays. When I think about like Scream Queens and American Horror Story, M. Robert's kind of slays. Yeah, he has some really good hits, you know, that Ryan Murphy, but. Yeah, he is kind of good, actually. Yeah, he kind of slays. Like, he gets people watching. Yeah, we should not talk bad about him anymore because what if he wants to cast us? You know what I mean? I really do think there's a world where you're cast in a Ryan Murphy project. Like, it just kind of makes sense. Maybe not no fat people are in his projects, though, huh?

I'm trying to think. Who's the other one that's fierce? She was in The Politician season two, season one, Jessica Lange. Oh, yeah. She was in American Horror Story as well. Yeah. I don't think he likes the fannies, but it's okay. I'll get on that. I think sometimes he thinks of a role for, and he has like a plus size person in mind. Yeah. Glee, I suppose. Right. I want to play that girl. What was her name? The one that Puck liked. Which one? She had glasses and she was, she was a big girl.

You don't remember? She was a little bit of a bully, maybe. Was she one of the later seasons? No, she was early on. Which one? And she had glasses? Yeah, gosh. Yeah, her and Puck dated. Who? And he sang Fat Bottom Girls to her. He's like, ooh, you make the rockin' girls go round. Fat Bottom Girls, you make... I remember that scene. I remember being like, that could be me. What was her character? She was in it a lot. A few episodes, at least. Oh, this girl. Yes. What was her name? She was a fierce... Who's this diva?

Literally, who is this diva? What is that from? Who is this diva? Oh, I've seen all over for Twitter.

What? I see it all over Twitter. Who is this diva? I just keep seeing it on TikTok. Who is this diva? Mama, a Malibu behind you. Like, they always say these things. And I'm like, what does that mean? There's a picture of Malibu where she's, like, behind me. And she's, like, straight legs. She has, like, this little, like, emoji behind me. It's so funny. And everyone's like, Mama, a Malibu behind you. But I never know where any of these originate from. I'm just like, her body is tea. They all sound like RuPaul references. They do. RuPaul's just too dressed to impress. Because, honestly, doing the runway was...

just giving RuPaul for sure. The way we were critiquing everybody, I was really mean on Just to Impress too. I brought out the mean side of me. The competitive side, if you will. The competitive side. Or just mean. I was like, nice try, nice try. I was like so mean to people. I don't know why. And it was people that liked us too. And I was like, let me just not mean for no reason. It's just being competitive. That's what it's all about. It's the competitive spirit. Yeah. I kind of flopped, but people will podium me. But we did, we find her her name right.

her name or no we didn't know I couldn't find it there was some address to impress hot topic that I think you would be happy about yeah so if you guys don't know just to impress it's a game on Roblox where it is very RuPaul you get a theme a category and you have five minutes to dress according to the theme and to slay so fun actually it actually is so addicting in like it's a game where it really like you lose a sense of time weirdly like so much time an hour can pass and it feels like five minutes it's yeah it's actually so much fun

much fun. But as of right now, there was only one body type. You can be a man or a woman and you're skinny either way. You're like a tiny little girl or you're like a ripped guy. But they're adding new body types and it started like a whole... I love this. They added all these plus-sized bodies and they posted to get feedback and then it started like a whole wave of fat phobia. People saying, I'm going to quit the game. I don't play Dress Room Press to be fat, blah, blah, blah. Well, you don't have to be fat. Exactly. It's so...

It started so much controversy. They're like, we want a world with no fatties. We only want skinnies. That is so sad. You know, I have to say, if I'm playing dress to impress, I probably wouldn't put myself in a fat body. I think I would always choose skinny too, but it's nice to have the option, I think. Yeah, because you know what? Some people do like being heavier. Some people like that and stuff like that.

I do. I've come to the terms where I feel like I'm maybe like my body like this. See, there you go. You know what I mean? Because I look at some skinny and I'm like, yeah, God, everyone's so skinny and it looks great. But then it's like, I don't know. I kind of like the way I look. T, yeah, you should. You know, what if I look like a Crypt Keeper or something? You know when you're older like me? Yeah. I,

I feel like when you're older and you lose a bunch of weight, you kind of look a little scary sometimes. Yeah, you look sunken in. Yeah. Yeah, but I feel like, like, Nicola, who's, like, older than me, who was on British News, she looks like she's 20. I always forget her age. She's, like, 37. Yeah, in my head, she literally is 25 or something. Yeah, and I think it's, and again, she's definitely not fat. She just has a little, like, fullerness in her face, and I just, like, I think it gives her this just nice, and that's, like, what I feel. I don't know. I just want to look young forever, so I'm on the no-Zempic, but honestly,

I honestly love this. Kudos to them. I saw Heidi Klum also copy them for her game. She does another game like Just to Impress. Really? And she has plus-sized bodies in her game now, too. Yeah. So I guess everyone's doing it. I mean, I don't think it hurts anybody to have a plus-sized character in there. I know. And there's always that thing where, like, it promotes obesity. I'm like – it's just, like, normal body types. It's not – people need to get over it. It's really weird. And, like, in every game, like, in Nintendo, like, when you make your profile and you make, like, a version of yourself, like, there's little –

like a slider so you can be like skinny or like bigger I feel like that's in every game it's so weird that for some reason dressing room pass people are like no fat people well you have a block head you don't have a block head in real life like that's so weird I don't want to be like God people are just so annoying people really

People really are fatphobic. I think if anything, like people are like super fatphobic. No, for sure. And I think the ozempic age makes it even more noticeable because like the shift in how people are treated once they get skinny. And then all those people who are newly found skinny are like, wow, people like me so much better. And then you're like, well, maybe I should be skinny. But I'm like, you know what? People like me just the same. I did someone and it's someone I like. God, who was it? Someone I like was saying that

Oh, we had her on the podcast. Carmelita. I like her. But her thing was like, she goes, if you want to be rich and famous, you can't be fat. You have to be f***ing sane. I almost commented and be like, well, I am rich and famous and I'm fat. You know what I mean? So I think it's possible. But I think that's her character. But I kind of live for it. I was kind of like fierce, but also like, I was going to be like, but I'm fat and rich. Fat and famous. I'd rather be fat and famous than fat and rich.

What do you think? Are those my only two options? Fat and famous or fat and rich? Yeah. Oh. Are you skinny? Skinny and... You want to be skinny and skinny? Okay. All those combinations, we can be skinny too. So it could be like fat and famous. No, you have to be fat and famous or fat and rich. You have to pick one. The skinny is obviously an option. Skinny is not an option. Yeah, skinny is not an option. I would...

Probably fat and rich, I think. Really? Yeah. I don't know. I'd probably be like very chapel coated if I was like super famous, I think. Really? Yeah. Like don't talk to me. Yeah. I like, cause I don't do well with like a lot of attention. Really? Yeah. Okay.

But you would choose not famous? I always want to be famous when we're rich. Always. I'd rather just everyone know who I am. It's just so cool when you think about it. Like, after you, like, die and people are just like, she's great. That's true. You know? Or, but you can be famous for not good things as well, I guess. That's true. That's true. Or she's terrible. Well, no, because you're dead, I guess. Yeah.

Justin Press shout out for body inclusivity we like that Chapel Roan did sell out or she did break records again at ATC did you see that ALC ACL ACL Austin City Limits really isn't that like what you tear in your ankle in ACL that's what I thought ATL ACL all the same

She doesn't care. And no one cares. See, that's why I'm saying social media is so stupid because everyone's like, chapel's over. I can't stand this girl. And then literally, there's like hundreds of thousands of people come out to see her. Oh my God, I know. You know? And it's like, I never listen. That's why anybody yapping and saying all this stuff online, it's like no one really cares because those people are still going out to support her. People just love to have a loud mouth online. Yeah, I think it's...

It really depends, especially a lot of the, like, controversy around Chapel is, like, very, like, centric on Twitter and a bit on TikTok. Like, there is a point where it does, like, cross over into the mainstream and can affect things. Like, Joker, like, you know, something like that. It, like, spreads or whatever. But for Chapel, it, like, really hasn't because literally ACL...

Is it ACL? Yeah, Austin City Limits. That's crazy. She had another record-breaking crowd. She was number one on the Billboard Artist Charts last week. Oh, yeah. Her album is number two this week, and it's been out for like a year. Yeah. She's still kind of slaying. People love her even more.

even more actually which same it's like just you're making her more famous and people finding out about her music and be like actually she slays on music you know honestly you're so right it makes people want to listen to her so many people and then people are like oh wait she actually slays the music hits yeah so couldn't care less what you're talking about you know what I mean it's just actually people being so awful should we be on SNL this week or next week I think next I'm excited I love SNL I can't believe I'm not SNL person I love SNL I don't know who hosted this week but it was still funny

And Ariana's coming on soon on SNL too. I hope she also does like, you know when the musical acts also like do one skit or something? Oh, for sure. Oh my God, that'd be so funny. She should do one with Bowen Yang. Yeah. Because they're friends, right? Yeah. Bowen interviewed her for a magazine before. Oh yeah, she should definitely. I feel like she would. I feel like she's an actress. Yeah, it's actually fun. Yeah.

Who's her host at with her? I don't know. Oh, yeah. So she is the musical guest on November 2nd. And John Mulaney is the host. Oh, no. So people will be very normal about that, I'm sure. No! Oh, my God. She might not do it in his kids. Yeah. Yikes. It's like when I found out Jenna Bush co-hosted with Hoda. Yeah.

Why is that so sad? Or that Zachary Levi and Shazam is awful. Damn. People just love, you know what? The world's going to disappoint you. That's the lesson of today is that

Your idols will always disappoint you. It's not her fault. Obviously, Chap is. But it's just John Lennie. I don't know. I don't know anything about him. He just gives me the ick always. I don't know. I didn't know people disliked him so much. Well, I remember hearing, like, controversy. And then I guess I forgot about it. Because I think he had, like, a Netflix special or something. And then people liked him again. But I feel like it kind of ebbs and flows. Yeah. I really can't keep up with that one. But also, it's, like, not my...

Like, M.O. You know what I mean? I'm not the John Mulaney demo, so, like, it doesn't affect me either way. He's just, like, not funny on SNL. Ever. Ever. Damn. That's crazy. I mean, you know, I'll still go and watch it. I honestly thought about flying to New York because I feel like New York's been calling me. Maybe I should go fly to New York, see Rachel Zegler and Romeo and Juliet, and I was like, maybe I'll go see Chapel at SNL. I thought that'd be so cute. But I was like, I still would, honestly. I don't really know John Mulaney like that. And who does, to be honest? Yeah. If we learned anything, it's to not judge people based on the media. Yeah.

I feel like that's the way to go, right? It is true. As Ariana in the Brat Remix says, it's a knife when they dissect your body on the front page. It's a knife when they won't believe you, so why explain? Honestly, that's like Shakespeare right there. That was so good. It hit me. I was like, ooh, yeah. Yeah. Why should you explain? So John Mulvaney...

You don't need to explain anything to anybody. And your hair is kind of brat right now, too. It's getting brat. Why is everything green this year? It is the year of green, yeah. Brat summer into broadom. And then we're in Miss Limelight, Beetlejuice, Beetlejuice, Wicked. Like, it's just actually, like, kind of, Joker's kind of green. Yeah. I don't know. But you're here for it. Green is, like, a money color. I feel like abundance. And we're in, like, an abundant year, so...

Uh, yeah. I don't know. Maybe I shouldn't judge people. I don't know. Did you see that the journalist got fired who started the homeworking rumors about Ariana? Oh, yeah. Page six said, bye. Well, was she actually fired? Like, okay, so the journalist who covered a lot of like the Ariana Grande cheating allegations, scandals. I think she broke it, didn't she? Yeah. She's the one that had the interview or the quotes from Ethan Slater's ex-wife, Lily. Right. The ones that kind of.

kicked up everything last year. Controversial, because some people are like, those are not real. Yeah, which still... But you defended by saying, page six wouldn't allow it if it wasn't real. I mean, they would... If they were just made up, completely made up quotes. I'm not saying the journalist got the quotes ethically. Like, maybe she, like, kind of cornered her on the street or something, for all we know, you know? Like, and kind of made Lily say some stuff. But if the quotes weren't real, like, you think...

Ariana Grande's legal team, I think, would have something to say about it. Because you can't just make up quotes, publish them, and say that they're real and leave them up there.

But maybe she got her at that vulnerable time, like you said. So the ethic part. I was going to say, yeah. Like, there could definitely be an ethic thing. But as far as the quotes being, like, completely fabricated, like, the article still wouldn't be up. It would be, like, a lawsuit. Because, like, Meghan Markle sued, you know, all the tabloids in the UK for just publishing. You know what I mean? Like, you can't just lie and print it, you know? Yeah, that's true. But, yeah. So this report.

though. Francesca Vestala. Yes. You did your research. I was so invested in it because I was like, oh my God, did she get fired? Because all the Arianators, or they were called Arianators on my timeline were like,

See? It's happening. Ariana, like, the rise up is here. You know what I mean? Like, everyone that, like, wronged her. Because there was someone else, too, that, like, got something wrong and they got fired. But anyways, this was the big one I was interested in. Yeah. So I saw that she – so obviously she worked with Page Six and then she changed her Twitter bio to, like, formerly Page Six. Yeah. So is there – Former gossiper at Page Six or something you said. Yeah. And she published, like, a lot of negative pieces about Ariana and the fans have clocked that she's anti-Ariana. But –

Yeah, okay. I don't know, page six. Is it, like, kind of tabloidy, like, Us Weekly? It's very, but more, it's, like, more salacious, I think. Like, it's, and, like, more cutthroat. Like, it's not very celeb-friendly, you know? So, why does it exist?

I think because it is kind of like one of those meaner tabloids. You know what I mean? I just feel like that's all 2007. When you think about like Perez Hilton and all the, and the dirty Nick Ritchie, I feel like all those people are just so out. Cause like means not in anymore. You know what I mean? Like, do we really need to speculate about why someone's not with their wife? And like, you know what I mean? Like I get it. And we talked about it, but then I kind of felt bad for talking about it. Cause I'm like, we actually like don't know anything. I know we talked about this before, but it's also like girl wouldn't have brought it up. Like nobody would even be talking about it, speculating. Right. Yeah.

If Lily didn't bring it up? Oh, you mean the reporter? No, Francesca. Francesca, yeah. See, I mean, it's something that definitely would have come up regardless. But I know, but like would it have been a big thing if we're like, okay, she never got the quotes from a woman who's obviously going through some shit, whether it's like mutual or not, she was going through shit and she put the quotes out there. Like it obviously was to just like cause some shit, right? Yeah, for sure. So it's like, what's the point?

I guess it's not adding any entertainment. Like, you're not, if she's a journalist, which I'm assuming she is if she worked for Page Six, it's like, you went to school. You, like, paid money for a college education. Like, don't you want to put out something, like, you know, valuable in the world rather than, like, trash? Yeah, I get that. Right? Yeah. Okay, like, again, I'm not, I didn't go to college, but I would just assume if I'm, like, a college-educated person, I want to have, like, some morals and some respect on my name. I didn't go to college, so I don't care. But, hey.

Saying if I was her, I think I would care, right? Or no, you went to college. You're a journalist. Yeah, I think I, especially when I was writing articles, like, I did like the more, like, positive ones. Like, I, but that's kind of me in general, I think. Like, I only really, I get excited and talk about stuff and, like, want to write about stuff that, like, I love. You know, so, like, I love Taylor Swift. So I wrote a lot, I covered, like, all the Taylor Swift stuff. I've never, like, been an anti and, like, made it my whole, like, career. You know what I mean? Like...

Like, for here, there's people I hate that I talk about for, like, a key. But then, like, we always say we talk about it here and then it doesn't, like, occupy my mind outside of this, you know? Whereas, like, the people I love, I'm always thinking about, like, a Taylor Olivia chapel. Right, right, right. Yeah, I think if I was, like, an actual, like, print journalist.

I would be more into like the positive stuff. Or just like actually there's like some evil people to bring down in the world. You know what I mean? Like Jack Doherty, right? Like we get to him like later, but it's just like, okay, he literally filmed himself like crashing a McLaren and like not make sure. Like there's actual like evil, awful people in this world to like bring down, but you want to bring down Ariana Grande or,

for like divorcing her husband the same time he divorces his wife and like yes it will come out and people will like speculate but I just think going that extra mile to get the quote from the ex-wife who's not in the public who's obviously at a vulnerable time and that's when you swoop in I just feel like that's a little bit ick and like you said ethically morally and I think it just like provides nothing for anybody if anything everyone kind of gives a side eye it's kind of like side eye to you like why are you harassing someone's wife you know what I mean because it sounds like she didn't

She didn't give any interviews after. It's not like she went and Lily, the ex-wife, was like, oh, let me go on a press tour and talk about it. She kind of seemed to hide after that. So it was kind of probably that moment where it was a little sneaky. Yeah, and I think TMZ published around that time, a couple days after that, Lily wasn't fully aware that she was on the record or something too. So she was kind of panicked after it, which makes sense why she became super quiet. But yeah, there is like...

That side of tabloid culture, like you said, like Perez Hilton and stuff, obviously that was so early 2000s. But I feel like, yeah, I don't know. Media isn't as nasty as it once was, I think. Or just nasty to women like Chappell and Ariana. But then meanwhile, all these guys. Literally, everyone just is like this Cody Coe. It's fine. He's back. Zach Justice. Who cares? Jack Doherty. Okay, a few people...

people got him kicked off. Like, it's just like so not a big thing. But oh my God, Ariana is with her co-star and oh my God, Chaperone hates her fans. Like, pitchfork. It's actually like kind of insane. And there's actually like some, like Shazam, but I've never heard that he had all that. You know? Like, why isn't that more publicized? But Rachel Reckler had a problem with Snow White and that never went. That was ever. Exactly. Oh my God, how dare she say she didn't know the musical from 1937. It's like, but Shazam out here just being dubious and no idea. I literally was like, oh, the guy from Tangled. And you're like, yeah, he's the worst. I was like, what?

Because no one talks about it. Shazam has one of the biggest Mandela effect. Do you know about that one? Shazam? Yeah. No. Tell us. There's people that think that Sinbad was in the movie Shazam. Oh, no. Shaquille O'Neal. I'm just saying there's a huge community of people that remember Sinbad being on the movie. Wow. What? Shazam. He was in one. He played a genie in another movie. Oh, so maybe that's why. He may be Shazam. Something like that. Like,

There was a movie called Kazam. Maybe. He was a genie in a movie, for sure. But definitely not Shazam. I remembered it. I remembered him being in Shazam. Like, I remember the poster. What was the one he was in Genie? Did you see one? It's like one of the most known Mandela effects. I guess I could see that. I think he was a genie in something else, though. Oh, Sinbad the Kazam Confusion Explained. Was he in a movie called Kazam? Yeah.

Wait, many people confuse Kazam starring Shaq with Sinbad somehow, but people are adamant that they recall a movie where Sinbad played a magical companion to a young boy. It is a Mandela effect. Wait, no, there's no way. Yeah.

I remember the poster of Sinbad. There has to be something where he played a genie. He definitely played a genie. I think maybe on one of his shows, he had a show. I think in the show he might have played a genie. Where is Sinbad? You never hear anything about him, huh? He was so big in the 90s.

God, I loved Sinbad. I remember as a kid, he was like the rock of the time, but comedy. He was in Good Burger. He's like, oh, I'm going to get a big booty burger. I'm going to get a big booty burger. And then he got, I think Kenan, like he hit Kenan or something. Or Kenan hit him on a bike or something. I can't remember. He was good. He was also, God, he was in so many movies, Sinbad. Was he one of those like a secret agent, like a secret service agent or something? Which one? What? I just love that the rabbit hole he went down for Sinbad. Did you love him?

No? Really? No, I don't really think about him that much. God, I really wish he was around. Yeah, maybe you are. I think I'm right at the edge of the cusp of kids knowing Sim bad. So maybe, yeah, you're too young. That's what I'm saying. Like a five-year age gap is actually everything because it's like crazy how stuff you don't know. Even though it's only five years, it's like that doesn't make a big difference. Are you? Maybe he can play the new Shazam. Get Zachary Levi out of here. That'd be crazy. I'd be on board.

Oh, he was in that movie with Phil Hartman, Jingle All The Way. Did you ever see that one with Arnold Schwarzenegger and Phil Hartman? Yes. Oh, God, I loved it. And with the parade at the end, he becomes the villain. Oh, my God, it's so good. They don't make Christmas movies like that anymore. There's all this Candace Cameron Brouwer bullshit on Hallmark. Talk about dubious. Why is she so anti-gay? Like, she really hates gay people. It's like, why? The devil amongst us is her and Francesca. Because, again, it's kind of parallel. Like, why does it harm you? You know? She's like...

between a man and a woman. I'm like, why do you care? Like, you're married to a man. Chill out. Like, it's so weird. That's, I guess that's what the journalist was giving me because when you really think about it. Why do you care? Yeah.

It's so weird. I don't know. It sounds like trash I would say back in 2018. Be like, oh my God, did you see this? It just sounds so gossipy for no reason. But I guess that's page six. I guess that's page six. I have a prediction, and I feel like my predictions come true a lot, that page six will close up in a few years. Oh my God. I have a feeling. People are out with the mean. You know what I mean? People just want nice things.

And yeah, gossip is cute if it's a key like us. You come into an inn, like we're just having a key. We're just like gossiping. But if it's something so like salacious, salacious is bad or good? You used it earlier. That's like bad, like really, yeah, yeah. Yeah, we don't want anything salacious. Is that like malicious? No. It's not the same, malicious, salacious. Salacious. Like really juicy, like controversial. Oh, salacious. Yeah, scandalous. Yeah.

We like a little salacious every now and then, but, you know, we don't live and breathe. Exactly. And it's also, like, use that energy for people like Colleen or something. You know what I mean? Not Ariana Grande. The real devil amongst us. Yeah, the real devil amongst us. It is crazy. Well, Page Six obviously had enough of her. They're like, you're out. Well, for the journalistic standard, is it true that she got fired? It said formerly Page Six. Oh. Do we know if she left of her own...

Oh, we don't know that? People just circulating? Like, you got fired. We have no idea. I couldn't see anything that was, like, proof that she got fired or if she just, like, left to work somewhere else. Okay, cheap. People are running with because she changed her Twitter bio to formerly that she got fired. Oh, no one knows anything. Yeah, I have not seen any confirmed statements from page six that she was fired. She goes to, like, the New York Times and does an article on me or something. It's like, oh, sorry.

Sorry, girl. Just kidding. It's like Deadline or something. Yeah. Guys. I'd love to be in Deadline, though. I've never been on there. I always see, I saw on Ethan Slater's Instagram. I was on his day, Bruce Birdley. I was just like looking at his Instagram. And he had the Deadline announcement. Like, Ethan Slater joins opposite Cynthia Erivo and Ariana Grande. And I was like, oh, Slay. I wish that was from a Deadline. And JB Leaf was underneath it. And he's like, welcome to the gang. It was 2022. I was like, that's so cute. I love that.

I want to be a deadline headline. You still have to get casted in something. Is that what it is? It's very like industry. Yeah, like casting news, projects in development, stuff like that. Yeah. Projects in development, what if it never gets made? You're just like, ooh, Trisha has a project in development and it never gets made. That's actually... When you got signed to your agency, weren't you in an article somewhere? Was it deadline? No. Oh. Maybe like variety, maybe, which is kind of a slight... Yeah. Which is better, variety or deadline? I read variety more because they're a little bit more...

like personality I suppose the articles yeah and they do more like interviews are they still print I don't know actually remember Jenna and Shane on the cover of Variety Jenna Marbles and Shane Dawson I forgot about that I was so like wow that's big like you made it yeah that was a big deal actually she looked so fierce and I just remember Shane was like not a bad

make him do that? Like, is he like blasting off like a rocket or something maybe? I need to look it up again. Yeah, it was such a funny cover. I was like friends with him at the time. I was happy for him, but I was like, what an interesting... Maybe he was like blasting off into stardom or something. Is he doing it or might just a Mandela effect that? Oh, no, you're right. He's like... He's like... Yeah. What is she doing? She's fierce though, huh? She's kind of mid-jump, but she's a little bit like shocked about it. Like, ooh. Oh, that's so funny. They probably were like, jump, and he like... And me too. Whenever someone says jump in a photo, I'm always the one on the ground because I get no air. So he probably was just like...

Like trying and then didn't. What an awful pose to pick though for the cover. Like jump and then one didn't jump. I know. That's your cover shot. I guess they were supposed to be like blasting off. I guess they added some smoke at their feet. Is it giving blast off or is it giving like... It's giving... We jumped. Aww.

Yeah, that was wild. That was crazy. What a crazy time. What year is that? Like 2017? 2014. Oh, wow. Yeah. 10 years ago. That is crazy. What a time capsule. Who would be blasting off now on Variety? Who is our similar – I mean, if it was like me choosing, I'd probably put like Taria, me and Jake Webber. Oh, what? I was going to say like Charli XCX and Troye Sivan. Oh, I was thinking YouTube. Oh, right. Yeah. Okay.

YouTubers. Or now we have TikTokers. Yeah. Okay, so who – oh, okay, that's a good one. Jake and Tara. Because I feel like they're big on both TikTok and YouTube. I feel like they – and Twitch, actually. So I feel like they cover a lot of bases. Or, I mean, you could even – there are so many now is the thing, too, because you can go, like, you know, real, like –

kind of with like a Pokimane cover because she's so like business, you know? Like she can really do it. I would say before all the scandals, it would probably be Mr. Beast, but I think those days are over. Yeah, no, not him. God, who is like a guy? Did we talk about this before? Like a guy, a YouTuber? Yeah, I don't know. That everyone likes, that universally likes. I guess this might be a hot take, but I would say Addison Rae and Chris Olsen.

That's fair. I honestly think that makes sense. Although I feel like Addison wouldn't identify as TikToker anymore. Yeah, she couldn't be. If they pitch you like, oh, it's like the, you know, TikToker cover, she'd be like, no thank you. Yeah, she's too big for it as she should. Yeah, she's on the Brat album. She doesn't need. That's wild. Honestly, she's crushing it so much. Yeah. I'm so happy for her.

I don't know who would go with Chris Olsen then on this. Meghan Trainor. She'd probably say yes. She might love being a TikToker, you know, because she like, even though she is like huge and selling out Madison Garden, I feel like she really resonates with being like social media too. Yeah, I think so too. I could see that. Those are two. Okay, well, you have a good cover. I have a good cover. We'll see who gets picked.

Pretty wild. The red was a choice, though. I feel like red for a cover is, like, scary. I know. It's, like, danger. Like blood. Yeah. Yeah, like, stop. Yeah. Guess it makes sense. They both kind of disappeared, huh? Not Shane. Shane is still... Oh. Just Jenna went off. Disappeared from the side. Skinny. Skinny. Yeah. Kudos. I'm jealous, to be honest. He looks skinny. I mean, who isn't, honestly? I'm, like, and then especially getting into this, I'm like, damn. Yeah.

I wish I was skinny. I'm not going to lie. First of all, you are skinny. I'm like, well, everyone, especially... The rumors are saying semi-glutide. I am on semi-glutide too. I'm saying probably...

What if I go to get my refill and Shane's in the lobby and I'm like, damn, I'm really doing this all wrong. What the hell? Why is it working for, allegedly, for everyone and not for me? But you know, there is a few people that won't lose weight on it. I'm the same. That works here. It's like makeup artists.

That's so true. What is anyone in this presence? It's so T. Actually, that would totally be me for sure because the way I hear it, I'm just like, I would never. I guess they say to like up your dosage. I really think I got to. But I think you look really, truly great. I think if you lost weight, you'd be back to your bobblehead era, which you slayed.

But I think your look is so current. It's very Hasan. It's very just like what you like, you know. It is. Hasan is skinnier than me. You're literally my dream goal. You're 30 pounds less than me. I'm like, that's my dream weight. And I'm shorter than you. Oh, my God. Burst out. You look good. No, you don't need bobblehead. You're broad. You're this. Oh, my God. That's too much. Bobbleheads look good, though, too. Honestly, yeah. Yeah, they look good. Like, Shane did look good in his little Snapchat. I was like, damn. Kind of serving.

Why do I call him Max? Kind of eating, but not eating. Not eating. Not eating.

Someone posted something and he was like, I don't know. Was it Adam? No, maybe. No, someone posted like his pictures because I'm blocked or I blocked him or I don't know what happened. But someone was, he was like eating like donuts or something. And I was just like, but do you still get to eat when you're on semi-glutide? Yeah, because you'd have one little donut hole and you get super full. That's crazy. Or like even half sometimes. Like when I am freshly dosed, I'm like, ooh, I can only have a bite. So why don't people just do that? What? Like have a half a bite of donut.

Like normal people or just people on... Like rather than taking it on the stomach, why don't you just be like, you know what, I'm just going to have a bite of a donut and then put it back. I think because with like semi-glutide, like your stomach literally feels like you can't possibly... That's crazy. Yeah, like you feel... Church's original recipe is back. You can never go wrong with original.

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At least for me, from my own personal experience. When I'm really feeling it, my stomach just feels so full and heavy that I'm like, if I have one more bite, I'm going to be sick. You might be the only person that's honest about it. I don't think anyone's admitted to it, right? Honestly, I was thinking about that on the way here. Because I was like, literally the whole time I'm driving in this, I'm like, damn, if I was skinny, I'd be slaying. And then I was like...

Like, everyone is getting skinny. Okay, especially when you're older. No one's saying it. It makes sense because when you get older, especially after 30, I think, your metabolism slows down a lot. So, like, if there's a lot of, like, people in their 30s or older who all of a sudden, out of nowhere, as semi-glutenside becomes accessible and popular in LA, are all of a sudden skinny. I know. At, like, the same time. It's like...

I'm not putting that on everyone, but there's a good chance that that is part of it, you know? And no one's really, there's no shame in it for me. Like, I'm still working out, you know? Yeah. I would, oh my God, I wouldn't want it just for the gag, just for the, to talk about it, you know what I mean? Because that's like, no one's talking about it. I'm like, God, I would like, love to just be like, damn, look at me on Ozempic. That's crazy. The closest we get is Oprah saying weight loss medication, but she won't say what the hell it is. And Kylie Clarkson said something like Ozempic adjacent. Because so many of them don't have the medical condition for it. But,

But semi-glutide... They get criticized for taking away the medicine for people that actually need it. No, but he's saying semi-glutide is available for everyone. It's not just Ozempic. Ozempic is for people with diabetics, but if you get the Manjaro and stuff, it's for people who just want to lose weight. So it might not just... I don't know. I feel like maybe there's like a...

You think like it's more prideful? Well, it's a sensitive issue. I think in general, it's a sensitive issue. There's a lot of judgment. Some people like they judge themselves sometimes or the way they view it about themselves. It's like cheating or something. Yeah. I mean, again, you shouldn't judge yourself or judge others. That's so Wendy. Remember when the person's like a gastric bypass? Okay, so you cheated. Maybe that. So I'm like, I feel like that is kind of the big mentality, right? I mean, it is kind of cheating, but whatever.

But what if you manage to overcome your mind, like get in control, right? Mama kudos. Are you cheating? That's not cheating. They're just using... No, but they're not overcoming their mind. There's a medical thing telling them they're too full. Right. So if somebody has depression and takes antidepressants, are they cheating? No. Good point, Moses. That is a good point. That's right. Because especially when you get older, I mean, there's so many genetic elements to it too. Like everyone...

Pretty much everyone in my family has been overweight at some point or is overweight. Like, our metabolisms are so much slower. My half-brothers are all skinny, but it's because, guess what? They're freaking dad or...

their dad or mom is skinny tall and skinny damn they got the fat half exactly it's like damn yeah I got the fat gene from both sides weirdly my parents are so skinny like they're literally like my dad's like 160 my mom's like 100 pounds like they're so tiny but like everyone else in our families are like big so it's very weird I'm like I wonder why they got so skinny I guess they just like

They're really obsessed with just being skinny, I guess. I don't know. I don't know how. My dad, like, loves walking. He does, like, seven miles every day for, like, the past 15 years. He, like, clocks it on his watch. And I'm just like, how are you, like, so obsessed with that every day? It's, like, crazy. Once you start and you get in the routine, that's the thing. Like, you kind of feel like – I feel like maybe you get addicted to endorphins or something, too. It's like, ooh, like, I got to – Because if I don't – if I go, like, three days or something without working out, I'm like, I feel not like myself. Yeah. Okay.

Same. I mean, walking. I always do it all the time. I was like, I need to start. I need to start. Once you start, you'll get there. I know. I know. We love walking. Walking is amazing. Walking is really. It's so hard with the kids because we have those big strollers and the car seats. And we all go as a family, but it's hard. And it's hot too right now. Yeah. The weather has been difficult. But walking is just amazing because it's another form of meditation. Going outside especially. We do love our walks. I miss those. That's true. Okay. Well, we'll get back to it. I'm on the grapefruit egg diet.

I think I've lost two pounds in six months. Better than gaining two pounds. Probably me too, actually. Yeah. I think it's better. I used to always gain like five pounds every six months. We'll take what we can get. I'll take what I can get. Although, Olive Garden has a chicken tortellini out right now that looks so good. Oh, damn. That sounds good. This is a problem. I know. I saw it on TikTok. I sent it to Moses. I'm like, that looks so bomb. And everything is pumpkin right now, like pumpkin cheesecake and pumpkin waffles. Damn. All right. Well.

You know what? I bet Shane feels so freaking good, though, because I know him. Obviously, we were friends for so long, and we always bonded over, like, weight issues. So he probably feels so freaking hot. He's probably like, I'm so f***ing skinny. And good for him. Honestly, I'd feel the same way. Oh, yeah. I'd be like, wow. If I was skinny, I wouldn't shut up about it. Literally same. I would be like, you're so skinny. You wish you could be this skinny. Maybe that's why we're cursed. God knows. It's like, maybe too much. They're skinny. Unstoppable if I was skinny. So, yeah.

It's okay. A little wait. I'm a little slower to get to the finish line, but we're getting there. You know what I mean? But we still cross the finish line. We still cross it. We're like the tortoise and the hare. Yes. You know, we're just a little bit of a chunky tortoise. Alex Cooper is the hare. You know, she gets everything. See, and skinny. And skinny. It makes sense. That's actually so true. Maybe Carmelita's right. You should be skinny to be ultra famous and rich.

Maybe she spilled. She spilled. Carmelita spills every time. I have another food-related hot topic. I love anything food-related. The viral cake drama that happened on TikTok. Oh, really? Viral cake? So there was an influencer who, he's like a,

He has 300,000 followers on TikTok. And he posted about how he made this like funfetti birthday cake for his friend's birthday.

And he took the cake to a restaurant to celebrate the birthday. And he already called the head at the restaurant to make sure he could bring it and that they would be able to hold it in the back and then bring out the cake for dessert. And when it was time to bring out the cake, he said that the restaurant cut like really tiny like sliver slices of the cake. And it was a pretty big cake. First of all, the cake itself didn't...

Jimmy, I'm sure we'll insert it right here. It looked good as hell. I'm like, damn, it was beautiful. It was big. It had like cookies on it and like Funfetti sprinkles. It looked so damn good. And then he showed photos of the slices and they were really skinny slices. They were teeny tiny slices, but the inside looks so good. It was like layers of like vanilla and like this kind of cream inside. I'm like, damn, that looks so good.

He said the whole cake took him like five or six hours to make. But so they come out, they give him the cake, they give him the slices. And then at the end of the meal, he asked for like the leftovers of the cake. There was no cake left. Like he asked for the leftovers and they said there's no more cake. That was it. So like he called like he called them out on TikTok to be like, OK, obviously they must have eaten the cake in the back. They wanted a treat. Oh, they said that was it. That they gave all those slices was it. Yeah. Yeah.

What restaurant is it? So he wouldn't say what it was, but then it became so big on TikTok that like people kind of figured it out somehow. Cheesecake Factory. Definitely. It was called Quality Meats in New York.

No. Yeah. For sure. This is where it happened. The alleged event. Yes. And then quality meat meets has also confirmed this. No. And he's like, no, there has to be more because he only gave us tiny slices. But yeah, people deduce that it was called quality meat. It was quality means was a restaurant. And then obviously became so big on TikTok that they flooded like the comments. And then people magazine had to reach out to quality meats for a statement. And quality meets had to look at the security footage.

to see like what happened to this cake because it was getting so out of hand and they issued a statement saying to be clear our team has referenced security footage of the kitchen that evening to get an exact sense of how much cake was left at the end of the dinner while we acknowledge that we failed to pack up the remaining two slices the accusations that the staff ate the cake are completely false oh wait but they failed to pack up the last two slices of where those two sizes go so apparently they just like accidentally threw it away or something because it was like in the kitchen in the back obviously there's

You don't accidentally throw away two pieces of cake. That's so... When I saw it, that was my theory. That they just threw it away. Right? That was my theory. Who does that? No. I hate it. That's bullshit for sure. I'm not going to lie. When he said that he thinks that they ate it and he wasn't even that mad about it. He's like, you know what? Like they work hard. They kind of deserve a sweet treat at the end of their shift. He was really sweet about it in the TikTok and I believed it because I was like, I put myself in the shoes of that waiter. If there was like a slice of cake left over...

And that cake looks so good. Oh, you're siding on their side. Well, if the waiter ate it, it's something I would do. I'm not saying it's the right thing. Really? But I'm saying I would not. It looks so good. I would not have been able to resist. And I'm not made for the food industry. Like, I'm not made for service industry at all. Like, retail I can do. But that cake looked so good. I would have to have a slice. No, as lacking willpower, I still want to eat it because I need to.

I know how expensive cakes are and like right you're at an event and it's dinner and you have to like splurge on this cake they're so they're actually the most expensive part of like any like that little little Taylor Swift one was 300 bucks like it's so expensive you know what I mean so like in my mind even to this day I would never eat like someone else's cake it was that whole controversy like a while ago about like a kid's birthday party right and there was 10 kids there and there was another good kid that started playing with them and the kid wanted cake and the people were like no you're not you weren't part of this party like you don't get the cake and everyone's like you should just give the kid cake but it's like

if you only account for 10 people and like it's an expensive cake they should only feed even a little kid like obviously if it's my birthday party you know I can afford to have like I'll have a big cake and I ordered a lot of food as we know I order food for 40 people if there's 10 people you know it doesn't matter but if you only order it and it's you're on a budget you don't want like another like little kid to have the cake because it's like you only invited 10 people and that's all you could budget for so in this sense it's like okay they gave out little slivers of cake for a reason because everyone's

knows that like you like give out big pieces of cake at a birthday party so if you're giving slivers of cake and you accidentally threw away a big one you wouldn't do that when you consciously cut small slivers do you know what I mean like I see what you mean you think there was some premeditated cake yes definitely and then they're like oh

oh, well, oops, we threw it out. Like, there's no oops. You cut it in slices for a reason. I don't know. I feel like it's more malicious or salacious. Salacious? I don't know. But I just think, interesting that we take two different sides, though. So you're on the side of the server if he wants a sweet treat. They deserve one.

Serve one, but the restaurant should give it to them, not the person having to pay for an expensive cake. I don't know if I'm necessarily on their side, like, morally, but I'm just saying I don't have the willpower to— I think specifically this cake that he made looked so, like, good. Even seeing him, like, he showed the process of him baking the cake, and I was like, damn.

Like, my mouth was watering. I was like, I want a slice of that. So I know if I was, like, I was serving them, I'm cutting the slice of their cake. They're all skinny. They don't need more cake. Maybe they do. Maybe they need more cake. They're hungry. I don't know.

Damn, it looks so good. Oh, so he baked the cake. Is he a cake baker? Yeah. He makes for every friend that has a birthday, he'll make them a cake. Oh, okay. So I guess he cut costs there. The thing is, the cake was big. It was big. He put himself next to it. The cake was big. Oh, so he knows. He's like, there's more cake back there. So he could calculate how much was left. He thought there was half of the cake left. And that's why I was like, well, that's a lot of cake to eat, too. I don't trust that restaurant at all. Quality meats. Yeah. Oh, well...

Well, yes, they didn't box it up. They didn't eat it. Well, show us. Show us the tapes then. Yeah, leak the footage. I want to see every minute accounted for. I want to see no skips, nothing. Because why would you show it? Can you imagine the footage of them? Yeah. They're like dancing in the kitchen eating cake. Like, damn, that is some good cake. That'd be me. I mean, no. I think you have the willpower. I think in your head you may want to, but you have more willpower than I do. I don't know.

It looks so good. It looks really good. But you're not afraid? Like, what's in the cake? You know what I mean? You're not afraid? Maybe these people are on some kind of a, you know, they're going on a journey. They put some magic mushrooms in it. I don't know what. It's even better. You know what I mean? Like, I wouldn't eat something. I don't know what's in there. Oh, I guess. I don't know. It just looks so good. It looked so good. So shout out. What was his name again? Let me see. Buddy the Cake Man. Ryan. Shout out Ryan Neuweheimer because that cake was so good.

That cake looked good. And he went viral. So at the end of the day, and they invited him to come back for a dinner for two. Absolutely not. Why do restaurants do this? When you have the worst experience, like come back. And we're like, no, but you had cockroaches in my food. Why would I come back? That happened to us at a hotel.

Which they never did give us our free nights, honestly. I was like, okay, we should go because there's a sushi place. But in San Diego, there was that. It was like the worst. Like truly, truly the worst. I've never read Yelp reviews and I had to write one because it was like so bad. Because we had our newborn. She was like maybe, I don't know, three months old or something like that. And there was like literally cigarette smoke just coming through the vents. What?

Yeah. And it was so bad. It was so potent. And we went to complain, obviously, where I was like, we have a newborn. Like, this is so bad for her lungs, whatever. They move us to like this, like literal, like another room that has like see-through like doors, like the doors that you could just like, it's not like a hotel room door. It's like literally like, I don't know what you call it. It's kind of like, it's a kind of a door you will have inside the house, like a glass door. Like a French door almost. Somebody can easily like just tap the glass and open the door.

Yeah, they... It was weird. They put us in that room next and I was like, oh, baby. And no views because we had an amazing room. It sounded like this room had no views. Oh, yeah. Okay, so, yeah. It was late at night, too, so it's fun to barge. It was, like, midnight because the smoking and stuff, like, being, like, whatever. So the smokers were happening and stuff like that. So, yeah, we had the oceanfront and, yeah, it was, like, a $2,000 room. Then they put us in this, like, literally, like, it's, like, a little, like, janitor closet, basically. It was, like, on the side of the hotel, like, zero windows. It was, like, little thing. Whatever. It was awful. And they didn't give us, like,

a discount or anything. It wasn't like, oh, here's a free night or here's like a, here's like, you know, the cost difference back or something like nothing. Anyways, it was the worst hotel experience. So I was, I kept complaining even after I was like, this is like some.

and then they were just like um like oh well we can give you like a free night if you come back or something and i was like okay well your hotel sucked but whatever but they never gave us the free night so on top of that they're just like actually you get nothing it's like very at the end of woolly wonka especially when after all that you know like i i pushed i was like look there has to be a room that's equal to what we are paying for so suddenly magically an amazing one and on the top it wasn't amazing that was not an

an amazing room. It wasn't amazing. They suddenly appeared, you know? So it was just a choice they made to send us into an awful room. But it wasn't an amazing room they sent us to. It was a little bit better. It had a window, but it wasn't like, oh my God, beach. It was like... No, but I'm saying that room was available to begin with and they didn't give it to us. Do we complain too much? Maybe we're like Karens over here. I feel like every episode we have like something we're complaining. The bread and chicken. I mean,

great the smoke was crazy coming to your room is insane especially with a newborn very heavy smoke it wasn't like light it was crazy that was the window it was from the vents there was no way to escape it i was like crying because i thought that our baby was gonna get like something wrong but she's fine but that's uh thankfully not because of the hotel honestly it was it was it was a horrible hotel all the way through but it was pink i think i don't know it was kind of cute but it wasn't the madonna inn i don't want to say that because then it's like oh pink hotel um

But I think rightfully so. We have not gone back to the grilled chicken place. Or no, not the crispy chicken. We're going to go back. Yeah. We love a food-related complaint. We love it. Oh, wait. Speaking of all-garden chain restaurants, did you see the chain event they had? Eat at Chain? No. Yesterday, all the influencers were there. They had a VIP red carpet. Joe Volpes was on the VIP red carpet. Do you know who that is? It's Joe from Vogue Squad. Vogue Squad.

Oh, it's Joe. Oh, it's Joe is his name. He gets like really good guests on his podcast. Shout out. Oh, it's Joe. It's crazy. But they had this like event. I'm surprised you didn't go. It was called Eat It Chain and every influencer went. Oh, I saw like an ad for it I think on Instagram. Seth Rogen was there. It was like a food festival kind of thing, right? Yeah, it's kind of like it's all your favorite chain food restaurants but gourmet chefs make it.

So it's all your favorite like you know like chicken nuggets or whatever you like from a fast food restaurant and they make it gourmet and so many influencers were there. Who was it? Oh Sophie the girl I did the giant crumble cookies with was there. Eat it. Eat with Katie on TikTok. Like all these foodies were there. How come I never get invited to these things? It looks so good. Seth Rogen. Lennon the plug was there and

And I don't know how people get invited, but we were not on the list. Especially fast food. That's like so our thing. I know. I saw an ad for it, but it was far. It was like downtown, I think. Oh. So. You don't venture down that way. We're in downtown. I was like, that's a lot of effort. I don't know, actually. I just saw like downtown LA and I was like, let me check out. I wanted to go so bad. But the ad I saw looked good. They had like a red carpet for people. I was like, wow, that's like an event. I wonder if Getty Images was there. Probably. More recent Getty Images than you. Yeah.

Oh, gosh. Well, he probably does. It's probably on there, actually. I'm curious. Wouldn't that be crazy if they were there? They were. Chain Fest held at Skylight Row, October. No! Who's there? Who's on the Getty Images? Who is there? Let me go to this. No way. I'm telling you, they had a red carpet, so I guess it made sense. Man, I wish we were invited. Would you have actually gone if you were invited? Maybe. Maybe.

Maybe. It sounds fun. That sounded really fun, that one. Oh, Zach Justice and his girlfriend. Mamrie Hart. What? Wow. We're really shunned. I don't know who that guy is. Who's this? Don't know her. Oh, my gosh. Lauren Gray. Damn. Everybody's there. God, that's crazy. Zach Justice is wild getting invited. That's wild. Adrena Patrick from the Hills. No.

Mindy Kaling. Yeah, I saw that. Seth Rogen. I would have probably gone. It does look pretty good. I'm not going to lie. Right? Panda Express. Sonic. Jack in the Box. Duncan. And Gourmet version of it. Yeah. This does look pretty lit. I'm not going to lie. I guess maybe we should have gone. Well, we weren't invited. It'd be one thing to be like, oh, we were invited to go. We turned down the invite. Yeah. Never turning down another invite. Very James Charles turning down just Trish. Before being asked. Yes. I'm sad. I'm sad.

everyone had pictures of Seth Rogen I was like I didn't know he was for me I would take pictures of Giles just to have Ferguson that's who I'd pick like if you could pick between Mindy Seth Rogen or just oh I love Mindy I'd probably choose Mindy but again I need to not think about size all the time I guess it's just so prevalent I'm like damn she's so skinny now yeah she's another one I know you're right 2023 2024 is the year everyone got skinny it'll go down in history books like what happened that year well not all that big don't you know

That is crazy. That is crazy. Did you see all the controversy around Niall Horan? No, I love him. I know. He's going to be a man.

I love him. Well, it's not really about him. It's about Liam Payne, who went to Niall's concert. Oh, no. He seems dubious, huh? I think Liam Payne is a devil amongst us for sure. He's the one with the girlfriend doing OOTDs on TikTok, right? Yes. And he was kind of like... Yes. He always comes across that way in those. I'm like, girl, leave him. Like... He went to Niall Horan's concert in Argentina last Thursday. And...

There's all these reports, by the way, for context. There's all these reports that Liam is not on great terms with the guys of One Direction. His relationship with them seems a little wonky. I think he went on Impulse a couple years ago and he kind of was shady towards Harry and Niall and stuff. He was like, my song, Strip That Down, it's actually, if you look at the numbers, it's the best song out of everyone from One Direction. Is that true? No. It's nothing of the sort. It's nothing of the sort.

Something about Impulso makes, I think, guys a little, the Lulu, I think. Thank God that's over. It's over, right? I don't think it's around anymore. Mr. Beast was just on it. He just picks and chooses when he doesn't. I think so. Whatever he feels like it, I guess. Um.

But so Liam attended the concert. He was in like a box seat at the concert. And he before now even came on, he was doing all these antics like he stepped out so everyone could see him. Obviously, like a lot of the girls there are no Nile from One Direction. They like One Direction. So seeing Liam, I think seeing anyone from there would be exciting. Right. Yeah. But.

He, like, went out. He was doing dances to, like, the pre-playlist for everyone. Everyone was going crazy. He was basically taking all the attention away from Niall. And it got so bad that, like, security had to come out and say, like, hey, can you not, like, do that? What was he doing? He was standing out in the box and, like, dancing for everyone. He was, like, taking photos. While Niall was performing or before the show? It was right before he came on. Oh, okay. But then it even persisted as Niall was on. Like, then you could hear – in some videos you could hear Niall performing. Okay.

And he was still out there like waving to everybody, making it all about himself. Did people care? I feel like I would not care. I'd be like, I don't know who this person is. Well, Liam has a repu... Oh, like you mean the fans? Yeah. I think contextually, like, you know, you're obviously a One Direction fan if you're there for Niall and then seeing anyone from One Direction, being close to them and also like Argentina. It's not like they're like a lot of acts go

to like South America and stuff too. So I think that also adds a layer of like excitement. Like, because they obviously don't see as many celebrities as like we would in LA, you know? I feel like I wouldn't even recognize Liam for real. Honestly, T. You know what I mean? Like, I see him on the TikToks. I'm like, oh, it looks like the guy from like Wonderland. Only because we talked about it on Hot Topics, but I would not recognize him. But Niall, like,

You know what I mean? Like, I would definitely recognize him. Uh-huh. I feel like he is down performing in the audience and I was, like, up on stage. Exactly. You know what I mean? Like, mm. And also, Harry, I mean...

Yeah. So Harry also went to go see Niall like last month, I think. And the difference is like once Harry realized people recognized him in the box, like he went towards the back. So to not take attention away from Niall. Oh, I see. Because he genuinely wanted to like support Niall and not make it about himself. But Liam obviously made it about himself. And then even after the concert, he walked over to the hotel where Niall was staying at. And obviously like the fans are like lined up outside the hotel. And he went and like was doing all these autographs and taking selfies with all the fans. Yeah.

Desperate. Yeah, it's very, very dubious. It's giving. I haven't gotten attention. Let me go somewhere where people recognize me. Very bad. It's like very much like people compared him to like Tom Felton from Harry Potter or Taylor Lautner where like they make their personalities like Twilight, Harry Potter, Taylor Swift. You know what I mean? It's like anything to keep the fan base alive. Yeah. Yeah.

It was just, yeah, not a good look. And then all these other clips have come out. Like he was doing an Instagram live and he was like, can you guys put all the dates for Louie and Niall's tour so my management can see when I can go see them? Oh my God. Cringe. Yeah. It's like, get a job. Yeah. Literally stay on TikTok. And then he was posting to his Snapchat speaking of monetization.

Of him at Niall's concert. On Snapchat. I really do feel like Snapchat is the new Rumble. All the problematic people are just going over there. Like, it's Shane. It's David. It's this guy from One Direction. Which one is it? Liam? I don't know. All of them sound awful. Logan Paul's on there Snapchatting during the birth of his baby. Like, I just feel like they're just so...

also very misogynistic i guess they just love men who hate women see yeah and it's so weird because the content on there like isn't even good like i saw people posted screenshots of like chloe kardashian's snapchat yeah on twitter and it went viral it was like literally random photos like getting images from like not even of her it was like look at kylie's outfit from the other night like what and they're getting paid so much money to post the most random

that no one cares about. Just like thousands of snaps a day. Yes. It's actually crazy. The little dot dot dot at the top is crazy. At least put some effort. Like do your shoes, do your food, do your face, your cheek, your hair. Like just do something. Why not just post content that's like already out there? It's so lazy. It's so lazy. And especially with the case of Khloe. Like can you tell she had like her assistant or something post like random photos or snap and like ask a question, you know? Just put some effort into it. They talk about like, oh, get your ass up and work. It's like if you're getting so much money, just snap your freaking sex.

Salad. Snap your freaking house. Like whatever. Like that's just so. I could do a thousand snaps easily a day just sitting at my house. You know what I mean? Because there's so many things you see throughout the day. Like even just going up and down. USB cable. Yeah. Yes. That's it. They just don't know how to be creative I guess.

I mean, they must be paying a lot. It's crazy. Snapchat is the devil amongst us for sure. It's like the hell and then all the devils amongst us go to Snapchat. You know what I mean? Zach Justice is popping on Snapchat. He's thriving on there for sure. But even before the concert, Liam posted to his Snapchat and was like telling everyone exactly where he was going. He's like, I'm on my way to Argentina to see Niall Horan.

And then he said, I think we might just have to go and say hello to Niall. It's been a while since me and Niall have spoken. We've got a lot to talk about. And I would like to square up a couple of things with that boy. No bad vibes or anything like that. But just we need to talk.

Weird. Weird. He's on weird terms with, like, everyone from One Direction. It's really odd. And I think if there's no reunion, it's because of Liam. Probably because they just, like, don't want to be around him. I think they need to pull an NSYNC and just exile, like, Justin and exile Liam. You know? I think people would be more excited about a reunion if there was no Justin. More excited about a reunion if there's no Liam. You know what I mean? I think so, too. Their value goes up. Yeah. That's honestly tea. Like, let's just kick Liam out of it, to be honest. Yeah.

I don't know him. I can tell you one harmony he sings. Does he have a lead on any song? In the beginning, before Harry was the...

of the group, it was Liam a little bit. And there was kind of like the, they were going back and forth between Liam and Harry. Really? Yeah, like I will confess in the X Factor days when they were on X Factor, Liam was my favorite. Oh. But then I became a Harry once I saw the light of day. Don't ever admit that. It's awful. I had a Liam doll. What? Well, I had a Liam, Harry, and Louis doll. I also liked Louis back then. Oh, I don't even know Louis. I don't know Louis.

I don't know him, but I... He seems sweet. He seems like the one that is, like, so really close with everyone. They all honestly seem sweet besides Liam, to be honest. Sounds dubious. Yeah. Sounds like he needs to do something. He needs a podcast or something. I think he did not have a microphone. So,

Something to occupy him. You know what I mean? And then there was even more Liam news. So when he was on Impulsive, he talked about how another member of One Direction, he wouldn't say who, reportedly threw him up against the wall during an argument. And he fought back and said, if you don't remove those hands, there's a high likelihood you'll never use them again.

Who said that? Liam said it to the person that was on his phone. Yes. Well, I think whoever threw him against the wall won. What did she say? Whoever, like, threw him against the wall was probably the one. Oh, Tia. Yeah. Like, he's just like, oh, if you ever do that again, it's like, well, it sounds like they did it. And you did nothing about it. It sounds like you were losing, right? Right, right, right. And then his ex-girlfriend. Who do you think it was? Well, his ex-girlfriend, Maya Henry, posted on TikTok. She stitched a TikTok with someone trying to, like, figure out who it was. It was like, and confirmed that it was Zayn.

Which makes like the most sense. So Maya Henry is his like ex-fiance and she has some

a lot of tea actually on Liam. She actually posted a new TikTok last night slash this morning. It was an eight minute TikTok because Liam's fans were like popping off on her like, why are you desperate? Like, why are you talking about Liam again? She was like, you're just, you were with him for money, blah, blah, blah. But her dad's like one of the biggest lawyers in the country. So it's like, have more money than Liam. Oh, really? You think? I think so. Yeah. Well, just because her dad has money doesn't mean she does, right? I don't know. Generational wealth is kind of fierce. I guess so. But,

anyway she has claimed that Liam was like very abusive towards her when they were together she I have to say allegedly obviously but I believe her but said that she was like pressured from Liam she got pregnant but she was pressured from Liam and his team to get an abortion saying that I will leave you if you don't get an abortion that's Justin Timberlake vibes allegedly yeah very that allegedly

Um, she also got like really sick from the abortion and was hospitalized. And like allegedly Liam like never came to see her or anything. There's other like crazy things. She wrote a whole book that was like fiction, but inspired by true events. And in this TikTok, she says, yeah, everything is inspired by true events. My life with Liam. Um, there was even a moment in her book where she says, um,

This guy was like chasing after her with an axe at some point. Oh my God. Jesus. And then she says in this new TikTok, like he's still obsessed with me. She says that Liam will like text her, her friends, her mom. He'll make new like iCloud accounts to try to get a hold of her. Oh my God. Tries to like hook up with her friends. Oh. Allegedly. So he just seems like not a good guy. What do you do about people like this? Like what can you do when someone's so obsessed?

I think her saying it and like letting people know that he sucks is a really good step. Because also she was saying how like you guys are like coming after me for exposing this stuff. But like he talks badly about One Direction fans. Like he says how much like he uses you because he knows that you are obsessed with him. Like he knows that he can like use you for like nude photos or whatever. And then some girls are coming out. For nude photos.

Yeah. What does that mean? Like he was soliciting like DMs like hey like send me. He would go through his followers. And now there's girls who have come out claiming like yes like Liam like started DMing me. Then he started asking for explicit photos. Oh my God. And like what to say in videos and stuff. Yeah.

Ick. He's an ick. Yeah. All around ick. And I definitely, listen, I believe Maya. I think she went through it. Not to mention she was freshly 18 when they got together. And he was 26. She just graduated high school. Always a red flag with that freshly 18. Yes. Never good. Oh my God.

Oh, my God. Ew. Poor thing. I know. I feel for her. That's so bad. Yeah. Especially when the fans are, like, trying to make you seem like you're crazy and you're not. You know? I'm telling you. Anyone 26 trying to be an 18-year-old, they're always up to something dubious. Like, it's never because you're mature. Like, it's never that. Like, and it sucks to hear, but it's just the case. It's so true. They manipulate. They do that weird shit.

To you, like, and there's still something wrong with him. Like, clearly she's mature and be like, oh, yeah, that was weird. But he's still, like, warped in the head, obviously. Yeah. I don't like him. Don't know him. Don't like him. Yeah. And I guess for the record, I mean, Liam did have, like, alcohol issues. Like, he did go to rehab. So, like.

Maybe it's something, yeah. Yeah, well, you know, if you have a problem, you gotta fix it. You know, it's not anyone else's fault to fix. And not allegedly abuse girls. Yeah, he sounds sick. It sounds like, is there any pictures of him and Niall together from the show? Maybe Niall's like, They did take a selfie, but, From the stage, he's like, Yeah. And Liam just turns around and is like,

But of course Liam was the one to post it. Like Niall, you know. Yeah, couldn't care less. He's like, no, thank you. I don't want to know you. Because out of all of them, they're all like working, going on tour and performing and stuff except for Liam. So it's like, damn. Yeah. What is he doing?

Oh, OCD TikToks with his girlfriend. But then like shaming her for like showing skin. That's what I hate. I'm just like, well, at least she's doing something. She's trying to like make a name for herself. Yeah, at least you're like making content. You're just like hanging there like a loser next to her, mocking her, making fun of her. I'm like, you're such a loser. He's a devil amongst us for sure, confirmed. Yeah.

Wow, One Direction just causing spicy. I know. That was some big 1D tea. I was like, damn. It brought me back to like 2014, the peak 1D. 10 years ago. Yeah. Would you see a reunion tour if they went on? Without Liam, yeah. I definitely would. Who sings the first line of Shot Me Out of the Dun? You're my kryptonite. Who sings that one? Wait, what is that song? Shoot.

Get out of my head and fall into my arms instead. Oh, is that what they sing? Is that the song? I think so. And fall into my arms. Is that the right song? I have no idea. One Thing, right? Oh, yeah. Shot me out of the sky. It's Liam and Harry. Well, which one sings it? I think the first one is Liam. No! That's my favorite lyric ever. That's my favorite line. Is it? I'm pretty sure. Wait, let me watch the music video. It's Liam. No!

Yeah, it's Liam. That's like the only line I know from a Wonderland song. I love it so much. He was sweet back in the day. He was my favorite for that first album. Damn. Yeah, he was. And he had like the cool like soupy hair. He had it all going on for a minute. He had to ruin it. Yeah, he did have to ruin it by just being a gross man. That's always the case. Always the case. I blame Snapchat platforming these people. I guess that is a good segue. I mean, there's two more dubious men to get into, I suppose. Jeff Wittek.

Yeah. Well, he's not the dubious one, I suppose. But the David Dobrik. David Dobrik. I didn't see this one. What? The new like. Oh. It was like the defense statements got put into public record. Oh, my. It was so complicated. I saw something. I'm like, this sounds so complicated to follow. It does sound really complicated. I try to like see as. At first, I was like, oh, I should reach out to like a lawyer for it to sum it up. You know what I mean? That sounds like a lot of work. It was. I was going to say it was a lot of work. We're on page six over here.

I really was trying for a second. I was like, oh, it'd be so curious if I got like a lawyer to break it down. But I couldn't get a lawyer to phone in. So I just like read as many like recaps as possible and like TikTok analysis and

This is not the kind of program to pull up the documents and go over them. No, absolutely not. But basically, the gist is that it's like the statements from Natalie and David regarding the Jeff Wittek lawsuit over the 2020 excavator incident got put into public record. And what it sounds like is that David and Natalie were basically making it seem like Jeff Wittek

Jeff was paid $1,500 for the video. Is that true? Did Jeff admit to it? All of this is just like what the – from the defense. They're saying he had paid $1,500? That's hard to believe. Yeah. So none of this is from the plaintiff. Like Jeff's statement or anything isn't in here. He hasn't legally published a rebuttal to any of this yet. It's all just documents that's just the defense. So it's all like one-sided right now.

I feel like Jeff has said he's never taken like money. He's never got money from them. Yeah. I never got money from David. I don't think he paid anybody. And $1,500 is like a really random amount. Like where would you come up with that number? They like included that and like if they like paid for like some of his medical, maybe they like gave him $1,500 on time. Like, oh, that was for the video. I don't know. It's weird. It is really, really weird. And the gist is, yeah, they had workers comp pay $119,000.

So that came from like the insurance company to pay for the injuries. The workers' comp. Yeah. That's crazy because also that too is like saying that you have an employee because we have workers' comp and it's like that's like you have an employee working for you. And then do you remember a couple – I think it was last year we talked about how the insurance company was kind of going after David. Oh, right. For like kind of fraud. Yeah. So I think this is – I believe that is the connection. Got it. Because they were trying to justify paying $119 out of workers' comp but then David also –

paid another like 42,000 towards, um, Jeff surgeries. Um, I guarantee there's no contract that says he's an employee, like an employee. Yeah. No way. Yeah. I don't think there's any like paperwork or anything that says there he's an employee, but they're saying that they paid him $1,500 for the video that Jeff accepted. Um, that 119,000 came from workers comp to pay for the healthcare services. And then an additional 41,000, um,

the big thing that came out was, um, and like the interview after, like for, obviously once you get workman's comp, you have to like have talked to the person, the victim of the incident. Um, so in, um,

This paperwork that was filed, it said that like Jeff was the one that said my hand slipped and I got I flung into the excavator. So like specifically saying I like I'm the one who slipped and fell into it versus like David being like reckless and flinging him into it. And Jeff is claiming. Remember when he was here saying like Natalie, it was allegedly like for documents. Jeff is saying that that is like the document that she forged to make it seem like Jeff is the one at fault.

But even so – well, a couple things from Tom. Don't you have to get workman's comp for each employee, right? If all those people were employees, does he have workman's comp for like every single person that was there? And then also too, the whole point of workman's comp, right, is someone like slips and falls like if there's ice outside or something like that like on your property. Like they could still sue you. So it's also like even if he was at fault, but you're saying he forged it. But even if he did slip, it was like for David's video on David's time. Mm-hmm.

Like David was the one doing the excavator. Exactly, yeah. So it's all just very dubious. Also, it's on video. Yeah. You can see that he didn't sleep and fall. You know what I mean? Like it wasn't an accident on Jeff's side. You can see the excavator stopping and Jeff flying from the inertia of it and hitting the crane. Like you can see that. So that's crazy if she forged. I mean, that's like so crazy that –

The White Rinse comp thing is crazy. I'm trying to say it's an employee is insane. Like anyone who's been in David's videos like knows there's never been a contract employee. There's not even compensation. Like you don't even get your meals paid for by David. He never pays. So it's just like what is the – it's just so odd. Yeah, and it all just seems very weird. I feel like the truth really would come out like in a trial if it happens because right now it's all kind of like –

There is like video evidence. Then there's a lot of like he said, she said about it too. Like also another weird thing that's in the paperwork is that they keep reiterating this like statement that Jeff sent a DM, sent David a DM of 50 cent doing a similar stunt with like an excavator, like sent a video of it.

And that's like reiterated like three times in the paper, but then in the paperwork, but also David saying like, I didn't open the DM, but I feel like it's kind of insinuating that like, maybe it was Jeff's idea. Like he kept showing the same exact stunt to everyone. So, but there is a, like on the David's podcast, like around that time, he said that he saw that he didn't open the DM until like after. So he wouldn't have seen it, but I think they're trying to insinuate that he was showing other people,

That it was Jeff's idea to do it. Yeah. So why did Corinna go up first? Yeah. You know what I mean? That doesn't make any sense either. Yeah. It's all very weird. And then there was also like – And even so, someone's like, I have this great idea. Like if you're like, I'm Deadpool today. Like shoot me with an arrow. I don't know. Katniss. Whatever. And it's just like – I mean, I'm not going to be like, well, Oscar told me to. So I shot him with an arrow. It's like – that's like – it doesn't make any sense. Like you still got the excavator. You rented it. You drove it. You had Corinna go up first. Then you had Jeff. Like it's just – you filmed it. Like –

It's so weird. It's such a weird thing that they're trying to cop out of this. I can't even believe they're trying to defend it. Like that's what's crazy. Like how they haven't even settled or try to settle. And they're also in the paperwork keep reiterating that even though like being a part of the vlog squad wasn't like a paid thing that he was compensated with like views and followers. Yeah.

And that should kind of like suffice as payment. Like that's also something that was like reiterated a lot. And then there's also part of the defense is like they put all the like YouTube videos that Jeff was in. So like there's literally like a couple of pages of the documents that's just like linked to vlogs that Jeff was in. That's the craziest thing I've ever heard of. Like do they not know the law? Could you imagine? Like I just have someone working for me and I'm like, well.

I tagged you. So that's your payment. You don't need cash. Like that's the craziest thing I've ever heard actually to like even try to sell that. They actually have some kind of a measurement of clout. Yeah. That's, but also they said they did pay him. So why are they trying to prove there's also cons as payment? It's like, did you pay him? Did you not pay him? Like,

They definitely did not pay. And if they did, they snuck it in. If they snuck it in, it's just so they can use the comp, the payment. Right. Because workers comp doesn't have a name on it. You just say, you know, I have 20 employees. That's it. It could have been for his gardener at his house. You know, there's not necessarily a specific person behind each one.

So they had to pay him to give him the workers' comp. I bet you if they did pay him $1,300, but it was after the accident. Yeah, that's what I'm saying. In order to use the workers' comp, they're probably just like, here's a paycheck. Very, very strange. The fact that he would even be like, look at all these videos he was in. Like, you dumbass. Like, what? Yeah. You literally blinded him almost.

Took years off his life. He's still paying for it. Like, it's just actually – that makes me so upset. Him and Natalie are both on it? Because are they both getting sued? Or why is Natalie's statements on here? I think because she – yeah, she's a part of the defense too because she is the president of David Dobrik LLC. Yeah.

to snake. She's a god. It made me so mad. Like these people like the I just hope they don't get away with it because it's actually just so obvious that everything's so guilty. The fact that you're even like it's crazy when you're so guilty and you're still trying to defend yourself when there's like an actual victim out there is like actually insane. Like

Oh, it pisses me off. It pisses me off so much. And I guess that's why when all these influencers are a friend with David and hang out with David as if like he did like, you know, that he's just like this nice guy. It's like, it'd be one thing accidents happen and you own up to it and you pay for it, whatever. But it's another thing to try and prove like Jeff is like behind all this and it's his fault entirely. Yeah.

I can't even, like, really wrap my head around it, too, because, like, reading Natalie's statements in particular, I think that how it starts, obviously, you have to, like, say, like, your title and everything, but saying, like, President of David Joburg LLC, I'm like, and all the, like, responsibilities that she's trying to, like, talk about as far as, like, you know, scheduling the production stuff and workman's comp and all these, like, really technical stuff. I was like, how do you have the experience? And then I double-checked her LinkedIn just to see, like,

Maybe she has like really high like background, some like, you know, education and like this career that I just didn't know about to have the experience to like run a company and be able to even figure out HR and workman's because that's like really complicated stuff. But her experience began with executive assistant to David Dobrik. Literally. Then to chief of staff and then became president. Oh my God. Like what? Like what?

Okay, chief of staff. The staff of two. Literally. Literally. Their employee is Natalie. That is the one employee. Managing herself might be harder than we think. Sounds like it. Oh my God. And then she became president of David Dobrik LLC October 2022. So that's her whole career experience. I remember when she started. It was literally like she moved out like...

it was maybe January 2018. Yes. I don't remember. Was it? Yeah. Because her education, Lake Forest College, 2014 to 2018. Yes. I so remember it because I remember her first job as his assistant is literally getting me to go to the candy store on CVS Ventura so a guy could pretend to hit on me so they could catch me cheating on somebody at the time. And I was like, this is so weird. I remember Natalie being like, you have to go there. Use my car. And trying to get me to go to this candy store. And I was like, and it was like her first week on the job. And I was like,

Is this what he hired her for? Like, it's so weird. Literally took quirks and like tricked people into doing stuff. Like, go to the candy store. He needs candy. And I'm just like, okay. And then I just knew the whole thing was set up as soon as I went there. I was like, I saw this guy like trying to hit on me. I was like, okay, this is obviously a stupid prank. That doesn't make any sense. Oh my God. That psychology major really coming in handy. Oh my God. That is funny. Yeah.

I hate it. Ew. I mean, she really is the snakiest snake. David is too, but I know he has Natalie do all that dirty work and stuff like that, and she'll do it because she got promoted chief of staff in two years. Just wait and see when he throws her under the bus. I feel like when you have that much dirt on somebody together, you can't. You go down together at that point. You go down together. Yeah. Yeah.

that is i didn't know about all that i was thinking about jeff's arrest but i was like that's a lot of thing but jeff jeff hasn't responded i mean he shouldn't i don't think because not like as a statement i think like the next part of the legal process obviously is that like he as the plaintiff would have to file a response and um that supposedly should happen pretty soon i guess that's like pretty quick

turnaround so i guess that would be the next step is his response but i hope his lawyers stay with him i know they're pro bono and i hope they stay with him i know because i mean obviously trial like if to get to trial it's still i think it's a ways away to be honest um but also like the allegation that like natalie could have forged documents is still like so crazy seeing like this

like hearing him say it here but then also like seeing the actual like legal documents of like her putting that like that is so big like that's huge no I know that's actually like terrifying yeah I

I hope he, like, stays quiet, honestly, because, like, I really do feel like if that's all true, like, his case is so strong and they committed so many crimes and it's just, like, okay, like, especially the forging is, like, such a big thing or fraud on workman's comp or all that stuff, like, saying we paid him and he wasn't an employee. Like, there's just so many things that come into that. Like, did he ever file 1099s to David Dobrik LLC? Like, you know, there's so many things to say. Like, were you an employee? Did they claim? You know, it's, like, I just really hope he continues and I hope the lawyers continue. I hope they get a good judge. And I hope it, like, you know,

There should be some repercussions. I'm just so sick of these people not getting any repercussions. Again, this is actual dubious stuff. This is what Page Six Francesca Fasali should do a report on because it's actually insane. And kudos to the people who did it, like Business Insider and all that stuff like that. But I just think it should be covered more. You just kind of don't hear about it. I really didn't hear about this. I saw something on TikTok and I was like, oh, that sounds like a lot of paperwork. I'm not going to read all that. Yeah. And that is kind of the problem with –

Like you really do need someone to like really go through it. Like shout out Spill Shots. I want her to like learn as much as possible. Yeah, she's on it. She was one. I was going through like the lawyer TikToks to like see their breakdowns and stuff. The girl with the purple hair. I've seen her. It was her? I love her. She's everywhere. She is on it. But yeah, it is like really complicated to kind of sort through all this stuff, especially getting like the raw documents because they obviously go into the record and then you're able to like pay a fee to –

Get the papers. But it is, like, a lot. And the legal jargon and stuff is, like, really confusing. But that seems to be, like, the gist. There was more stuff, too. Like, they talked about who they rented, like, the excavator from and how, I think it was this guy David.

I forgot his name, but there was this one guy. He did a similar stunt and he wanted to do it again. And then the guy, when he was interviewed, was like, he wanted to do some really crazy stuff. I don't know. Like, he wanted to water slide out of the plane and then skydive. Oh, my gosh. It was just, like, crazy. They got it.

you know, hopefully with like that. Hopefully, yeah. Because that's, you know, it seems like now, but it is, so it does suck like all that happened to you and then you just see him like being in Target with like a pickleball, you know what I mean? Like re-branding himself as like, oh, is it Walmart? Always Walmart. Shout out Walmart though, I do love Walmart. But it is crazy, like he just gets to start this whole new life and be like, no, I'm wholesome. I named my pickleball after my mom.

for my little brother and it's just like and everyone's just cutesy and all the influencers going to his house for a Vegas party and everything's just great and it's just like meanwhile being so dubious in these court documents and like literally knowing that's not your employee and saying that it was and filing workman's comp and it's not like giving Jeff any credit just being like he is the one he's actually it's like he's so obviously the victim and just like saying that he's also like the perpetrator and he's like well he's the reason it's like that like that's crazy

Yeah. Oh, that also reminds me. There was another like moment, like another piece of evidence in the paperwork. That was like a conversation between Natalie and Jeff's assistant. And she had she said, does Jeff really need another surgery? He looks so good as he is. Oh, my God.

I actually hate them. I don't like to use that word strongly, but I actually hate them. That was really crazy. They're actually the worst. And I think it's like literally like taking myself out of it because like literally my stuff is so minimal compared to this. And it's just like they're actually the worst and have like no repercussions ever. And it's just so frustrating. Like you literally damage someone and you're like, he looks fine. Like...

Like, you know what goes on behind his head? Does he really need more surgery? His depression, his triggering thoughts. I mean, Jeff, I think he'll tell you. Like, he's the first one to say he's not really, like, well. You know what I mean? Like, he's clearly still very shaken. Like, he's not all together there. I mean that in, like, the nice way as possible. Like, he's going through a lot of shit because of all these surgeries. Like, he's having, like, a lot of issues. And you can kind of just tell. And I just don't understand how they can't tell that.

And it's all from his accident because I knew Jeff before and I know Jeff now. And there's something very, very different about him and very shaken and very loose, I guess I could say, you know. And it's just – I don't know. It's like really scary. And I feel for him. It's almost like someone with PTSD or something. You know what I mean? It's almost like talking to someone who's just a little unhinged and like he wasn't like that before. You know what I mean? Yeah. I mean I can't even imagine all those surgeries like –

There's also so like invasive too. Like the way he describes them like literally when he was here talking about like the process of them like, you know, taking like the scalpel directly into the eye. Like just hearing him describe it like makes my stomach like churn. Like it's very invasive, really intense. And it feels like never ending. Like he's still having to get so many surgeries. Oh my God.

four years later. And he says he's like fine until those happen and then they kind of spark something in it. So like again that like trauma response something sparks in him where he gets a little bit like he gets very depressed. He doesn't know what to do. Yeah. He said he's like I'm hoping one day I can have a happy life. One day I can be in a relationship. He's just like that's not happening right now. Yeah. And he's just like isolated and spiraling because of that. And it's like really really scary. Like I honestly was like sad and I felt really scared for him because I'm just like

got to go through it and then to go through and see someone completely like winning and also going against someone with like so much money is also like super scary that's why I hope these like lawyers keep going pro bono because when someone has so much money they'll like end up winning because they can just stretch it out and draw it out I mean this could go on for years and it just sucks and I hope that his lawyers don't like give up on his case

They're awful. Ugh, they're awful. I hate it. It gives me... Honestly, they're actually the worst. Again, of all the people we talk about, I do think they're the actual worst people.

Just to, like, blame someone, again, that's, like, such the victim. I just, like, how would you not be, like, groveling and say sorry? And I feel like Jeff would take, you know, covering the bills. He was willing to, like, at first, right? Like, he was willing to, like, still be pro-David after all that, you know? But to, like, skew everything and, like, manipulate him, I feel like that's kind of where he started to...

Like realize, you know? Yeah. I think he doesn't even want a settlement money anymore. He said it's because he was like it's not really even about the money to him. He just like wants – and I like kudos for that honestly because so many people do settle out. But I don't know. Hopefully whatever is best for Jeff will happen. But I hate it. So sneaky snake just the whole – even that like quote of being like, oh, he looks fine. Does he really need that surgery? That's wild. Ugh.

Eat it. Gross. Did you have a lot of experience with Natalie, like, besides that in the vlog squad or no? No. What was she like? She was really just like, I'm telling you, like, assistant, like, go get us candy. Go, you know, I'm talking about David, not me saying this, but like David being like, go get candy, go get this, go get food, like that kind of stuff. She was really just like a runner. So it's like crazy to see. I'm trying to think, like, yeah, towards the, I'm trying to think.

I guess not too much. Yeah, she wasn't really like anything up until that point. We just didn't have – we had very little exchanges. Never liked her though. That was my flex. Never liked her. You know, you always know something about her. Like I really liked Corinna. Like I really liked – you know, even going there, I liked them. Boring, but I liked them, you know. But Natalie, there was always something that was ick about her.

And I just was like, hmm, I guess it's just cute friends. She was the one out of that whole group I think I never interacted, like, never met. I interviewed literally every single blog squad member. Even, like, Verdun, but I never got... Never Natalie. Never Natalie, yeah. So boring. I remember when she started becoming, like, an influencer, I'm like, girl, stop. Because I know, like, she was a little fat-shaming to others. Not to me directly, but she would, like, be a little fat-shaming towards others. Yeah, so I was always just like, hmm. Because I remember...

a while ago back in my mean era I was a little like not nice about her body shape but only because I heard her not being nice to other people's body shape so but I take it back I should have been it was wrong of me but also she was also calling people whales so I was just calling it back I know not right we love whales as you know we do love whales we're pro whale on this podcast we're pro whale here I hate that that is a term given to people that are fat like you whale majestic creatures that save people that save people from sharks like yes I would love to be I'm a whale I'm a whale

Oh, yeah. She's the worst. She really is. I remember she made merch like I Love Pasta was her merch. What? Yeah. And I was like, okay, is that your brand? So weird. She's like, oh, yeah, pasta's my brand. I was like, okay. What? Yeah, that was her merch. How did I not know this at all? I was so involved with the blog squad. I'm like, she literally is my one blind spot, weirdly. Like, I feel like I know everything about all of them except for her. Because she's just...

matter. And I think she knows that. I think that's why she has to be the sneaky snake because she can't make it as like an influencer on her own. She clearly doesn't have qualifications to go anywhere else besides David Dobrik LLC. So she's like, I gotta be the sneaky snake for David. And that's why she continues to do that. No person with self-respect is going to cover up a man like this, you know? She knows she's not having HR or stunt people or you know what I mean? Like stunt supervisor. And that made me so mad. I hate it so much. I hate it.

And really my vendetta for David is like not even personal anymore. Like I just hate all this that's currently happening. I'm like he's just the worst. We're not going to Delbert's Pizza. It's probably trash. Damn.

I do love that piece. It's probably not as good as you remember. You probably just remember it because you love David and you were in the fog of loving David. I was out of the fog. It was like two years ago. I think you're still in it a little bit. Actually, maybe a year and a half ago. I think you still have a soft spot for David. Seeing all the photos of like Photoshopped images of me canoodling with David and playing pickleball with him. And Jay brings something out. I was like, damn. I know you do. You have a little soft spot for him. That's his charm. That's so funny. That's his charm.

i don't i have no soft spot for him i can't believe he has a pickleball thing in one more like what that's crazy yeah it's him oh my god if i'm at the celsius pickleball tournament no you better not be oh my god that would be wild no that one no me and alicia marie are like on the same team oh my god that's

I was going to say, Alicia and Remy were my dream girls and they're breaking my heart over and over, but it's fine. No, I still love them. Free will, I guess. I still love them. I feel like they're the kind of girls who just, because even like, I think you said, they said they would want to collaborate with you and you were shocked by that too. I think they just don't.

I think they just are nice to people who are nice to them. That's kind of the vibe that they give me, you know? I get that, but it's just like David Dobrik, like, oh my God, I don't know about that. Well, they just don't have the traumatic experiences, I think, that like, you know. I guess. I guess people are just not involved in like the Jeff of it all, too. It's just like, because I think Tana, like she was friends with David for a while after all this and stuff, but I think she just was so involved. Yeah, like knew so much about Jeff's side and saw his struggle and stuff like that and was just like,

That's true. I think you hear about it, but then, like, if you hear about it in passing, it doesn't sound, like, as crazy. But then if you actually, like, see, like, the video or if you, like, hear Jeff talk about, like, having –

night terrors that make him have seizures in the middle of the night because of the trauma that he went through. And she went with him to the surgeries up in Colorado and stuff. So she's probably just seeing the repercussions. And you know Tana, she is friends with everyone. She herself will say she's around anyone for clout back in the day or whatever. So I feel like for her to give up a friendship with David who is just cool with every influencer. Truly Tana loves every single influencer and they love her. Like

that's actually a big thing because David had a lot of like clout and I think like she would always say that in the vlog squad whatever you know like she you know he had a lot of views and that's where she would go and to give that friendship up is pretty pretty crazy and obviously you know it's something like serious yeah so that's why like the people who like the influencers who are still like you know going to David's house for the pool or whatever it is like it's like not even that great it really is I'm not even

even trying to be pessimistic, but for like what he paid and what he got, I'm like, okay, it's cool. But like a Kool-Aid water fountain is what you're so excited about. Like, I don't know. It doesn't give me...

Doesn't get me excited. I would be excited if you have like at the movies, they have the like the soda machines where you can mix any flavor. And if you have one of those, I would honestly be pretty sick. But also, I guess I can go to the AMC for that. No, I have like hacks like she just has her own little soda fountain. Yeah, which is so sick. Or a water slide like his pool. You have a water slide. It's just a pool. I was like, Dave, it's a pool. And I was like, it's literally just a pool.

It's so weird. I don't know. The David thing, I just don't really get. But I think we'll – people will wake up.

Sometimes I feel like I'm living in like this weird parallel universe right here, okay? Multiverse. Multiverse, yeah. Where I'm just like, am I the only one seeing the villain as David all along? Time traveler. Time traveler. Very Agatha all along. David all along. I don't know what it means, but I... Maybe you came back in time to stop him. Maybe. I'm just like, am I on crazy pills? Like, am I like, I'm the only one that's seeing the villain here? Oh my God. Maybe I am. Sometimes you are, but...

God. At least it sounds like he stopped the scary stunting, which I always knew was dangerous, which I'm like, okay, maybe. Yeah, T. Now he just snapshots girls with big boobs, basically. Yeah, because he can't – again, someone who can't do themselves, they just kind of use everyone else. And it's like David is master at that, I'll tell you that. Just use everyone else for his ploy. He's like a game of chess. I don't know what that means, but something the king always wins.

He's just pawns. I think it's the queen that wins. Having this discussion this morning and I thought that too. I thought the queen always wins. But it's the king? Maybe you're right. I've never played chess. David gives me more queen vibes. So maybe the queen always wins. Natalie's definitely a pawn for sure. If we're playing chess. But...

You reading Natalie was funny. I'm sorry. That cracked me up. Oh, my God. I wish I could say so much more about her, but... Keep it classy. Keep it classy. Yeah, we're not page six. I'm not going to get fired from my Just Trish podcast. Fire myself. Oh, God. Of course, we have to end it with the most dubious... Oh, my God. This person I hate, too. I hate this person. Jack Doherty. What a piece of... Yeah. Like, actually... Someone who I didn't...

He lives in a world, again, with like the Aiden Rosses and all these other streamers in which I literally have no idea who they are. But this video of Jack Doherty went viral pretty much everywhere. I specifically saw it on Twitter, but he... Saw Daily Mail. Oh, really? It got picked up everywhere. On TikTok, yeah. Wow. Yeah.

He was driving his McLaren out in the rain. He was speeding. He was live streaming as he was driving and he was reading chat and he crashed his car, completely totaled it. Wow.

In prison. In jail. Yeah. Jail. Jail. Jail. Really? Like how? Seriously. Like there's so many laws he broke, right? Like you're on your phone. You're reading. I guess it's hands free, I guess technically. But you're distracted driving. Speeding. Speeding. Reckless driving during the rain. Obviously causing – like how is he not in jail? He's not in jail.

He completely crashed his car. The passenger in his car was his cameraman. So when the clip picks up, he puts the camera on his cameraman whose face is all bloody. So gross. Looks kind of traumatized to be honest. Like his eyes are kind of like glazed over. He's still like kind of

reckoning with what just happened. He was in shock. Yeah. He was in shock in the car and he couldn't get out. Yeah. How fast were they going? Do they know? I don't know if we know how fast. But it was raining. Clearly speeding. Yeah, it was raining. McLaren, which is like a really scary car anyways because it's a sports car. It's not like a G-Wagon. And he drove into like the side of the highway, completely totaled his car. And then as his cameraman...

is coming out in shock all bloody he hands him a phone to record the total car so obviously did not give a frick about the well-being of his like friend slash cameraman no did you see when they were like the people that came to help him out of the car and he's like can you hold this and he asked him to like hold it and it's like these people who literally came to help like that is the like an actually insane person like that's actually so crazy i like what if he's

too, because it's also, like, you put so many other people in danger. Like, thank God there was not another car involved, but, like, that spin-out on a freeway, like, here in L.A. Like, is it L.A. or was it somewhere else? I don't think it was L.A. It was somewhere else. Yeah. Like, anywhere on a freeway that you're in, it's, like, you could have put so many people... You could have killed so many other people. Like, you could have killed your friend. You could have killed yourself. Like, it's just... It's just so sad, and it's happened before in a McLaren. We had a YouTuber that passed away, like, a couple years ago in a McLaren car accident, and it's just, like, reckless. Yeah, and...

it's so odd to me too oh it was in miami in florida which yeah it makes sense why i was reading because there's literally like a freaking hurricane the car is worth um over two hundred thousand dollars and over a hundred thousand people were watching him at the time like on his live stream when this was happening which is great the fact that a hundred thousand people were tuned in to see this clown is this makes me a little sad it's

For that too. It makes me sad. Right? Like who's watching this person? Yeah. I really just feel like live streaming should be banned. I feel like nothing comes good from live streaming ever. Like the swatting and then this. That's true. It's like, you know, the distracted driving. It's just like so many people, I don't know, it just is not, seems doesn't feel safe for a number of reasons. Like people know where you're at.

at, people watching, obviously the distraction of it. Because there was another – there was two girls on TikTok who were live streaming and crashed and died. Really? Yeah. There were two girls and it was all caught on their live stream. And I was just like, why is this like – it should just like maybe be banned. I don't know. It doesn't seem like it's caused a lot of like deaths and accidents and –

mclarens too because another person passed away another social media person passed away on a mclaren it's like they just shouldn't sell these to kids under like 30 because i just feel like anybody with these cars it's just like these people with so much money they really just think that they don't care like i'll just get a ticket i'll get whatever but it's like those cars are so dangerous like people getting car accidents all the time and those specifically and they're always like young kids

because there's just such, they're just so powerful and fast. Like I don't, I had a Lamborghini and I drove like 40 miles an hour because I was like so scared of it because the power is so insane in those cars that it's wild and then mix it with kids and stupidity and live streaming and fame and viral moments. It's like. And just having like endless amounts of money too where it's like it doesn't,

Like you don't really value the car either because you have so much money that it's just like a drop in the bucket. Maybe that's what they're thinking. Like watch this crashed $200,000 car. Like, you know what I mean? Like it just, yeah. He was just stupid. He's not experienced. I mean, like it's a super car.

And when it's raining, you don't hit the gas. Yeah, I saw that too. You just don't do that. Like, you know, I drove so many cars, like when it's, the road is wet, even just somebody's watering the garden, like you don't push the gas when it's wet because the car is so strong. It just immediately takes off. It just rears off, which what happened to them? They weren't even driving fast.

They were just accelerating. And then when it's in the water, the wheels just turn and boom, straight into the, into the rail. They went straight into the rail. But to keep filming, to like keep filming, like also like, okay, you're live streaming, whatever. I guess that happens, but I think it shouldn't happen. But like then to be like, oh, film this, like after your friend's all bloodied hand in the thing, like, you know, it's like if you're going to

car accident like I feel like you want anything to keep it like off the internet right like even if you're like an offender bender you're like I don't want people to know this it's like so it's his like mentality to keep filming is like very odd and very scary yeah because it's all incriminating everything he filmed is basically going to be used against him

As it should. I hope he gets jail time. Everything. And he's the worst because I remember his videos are him just walking in a mall, walking in places and harassing people. Yeah. And then when they try to retaliate back, his bodyguards will intervene and push them away. So he's always been that kind of, you know, punk.

Like a bully, but also weak. Like he's a child that can't even defend himself. And then he has bullies like, you know, his security guards. That's what it is. Like he can't even do this for himself. Like, you know, it's like he's, yeah, he's a coward in so many like ways. Yeah.

And now really just like endangering, like could have endangered so many people's lives. Like I guess he got kicked off of Kik, was it? Yeah, Kik is a platform where he streams on. He was banned. For life or for a week? I'm sure they'll bring it back. I mean... Aiden Ross, who is I guess... That's crazy. He's a co-owner of Kik, I guess. Oh my God. Said if...

You got to give me 300K cash if you want to get unbanned on kick. If not, you're indefinitely suspended. So he's just bribing him? Literally. He's like, give me money and we'll be okay. 300K and you get your account back. That's crazy. Aiden also – again, very Avengers from Hell assembling to like talk about this one guy. That's how you know you really are like the scum of the earth. If like all these people who also are literally like a nightmare, like –

I would rather unalive myself than be stuck in a room with some of the people who are speaking out against you. I'm like, damn, you must really suck. Yeah. Because Aiden Ross said, I was really upset that his cameraman got injured and he put the effing camera in the cameraman's face and said, get the angles. Somebody find me that cameraman and tell him I'm going to make it right.

Nick Merckx, who's another streamer, said if there was an Olympics for garbage humans, this little would be Michael Phelps. Wow. Wow. And also a message to him. Your cameraman is like Jeff Wittig. Like, just learn from the mistakes. Don't do what David Dobrik did. Yeah. And just make things right because that person was. Well, crazy. Did you see that when Karina responded? Oh, yeah. She tweeted it and she's like, oh, my God, you dumbass. Make sure you get all those angles. And then Jeff's like, hmm.

kind of like what your friend did to me which was you right before I went up it's so true like I think it's like one of those situations where you need to sit this one out you know what I mean it's like me I know when I shouldn't comment on certain things because it's like okay I whatever but it's like Corinna talking about that with when David did the exact same thing to Jeff it's like actually yeah her exact tweet was your friend's face is gushing blood but you make sure he stays filming from all angles nice

Literally David. It's a little too – the call is coming from inside. Exactly. And on multiple occasions too. It's like it's happened with other people who have been bleeding and he keeps filming. David himself, I think he like cut his hand and was like trying to keep bleeding. I'm like you guys are a psycho. Like I mean I guess they did end up going to a hospital but like not after they like filmed and stuff. I guess they said everyone was okay, which I guess is great. Yeah. Jack? Yes.

Yes. Yeah. Yeah. He posted an update of his cameraman getting stitches saying that he was okay. But yeah, it's still... But it's not something you know immediately like a concussion or back issues, neck issues. That was a strong impact. He obviously... Something happened because Jack didn't... Nothing happened to him. So I think his airbag came out at the right time. But the cameraman, something must have happened. Either he didn't have the airbag coming out on time or...

Because he got really bloodied. He got really hurt in the face. Mm-hmm.

Yes, could be the camera - could be it was holding filming his face his license should be suspended right? So like he's not gonna be it could still happen Yeah, it definitely needs to be because it's like if you like did that so recklessly like who's to say he wouldn't do it again Especially not anyone viral. He really should go to jail Locked up because he like in danger. Yeah, I'm a menace to society another devil amongst us He can stream from there

Oh my gosh. Yeah, exactly. Yeah. Yeah. Why don't you switch places with Menendez brothers? Honestly, you know, they serve the time. Give you 30 years, Jack Doherty, and we'll come revisit you. Yeah. Yeah. Honestly, what you've learned. Cause everything I've learned about him, I'm like, literally seemed like the worst person. He, uh,

His whole brand is like controversy. Like his bodyguard is being sued for assault. He uses racial slurs. He hosted a fight club where a man knocked out a woman. He flipped over a golf cart while his girlfriend was driving. Was his security the one that like – it was Corinna too? Yes, at a Halloween party last year, Corinna and her friend I guess were going to his party and his bodyguard like punched –

her friend or something yeah that was what i remember that maybe that's why she has that vendetta because i was like why'd she get involved i know it does seem personal i was like wow that's crazy considering your friend did the same thing but i was like oh yeah that makes sense yeah that's why that's right so weird oh my god this guy i just don't get oh my god it's kind of like what you're saying the basics like this guy seems like literally the worst person on the planet yeah a hundred thousand people watching him and again a lot of girls who do like a lot less like um what's her name uh

the tiktoker on the unwell network alex earl oh right right yeah like everyone was on her ass with like her old tweets or whatever but i'm like damn this guy and today today today like not giving a f about anyone like putting women in danger putting men in like putting everyone it's the whole society

But I don't even hear a single, it's literally what you were saying. I don't hear anything about it. No, I don't hear like influencers. I don't hear all the guy commentary. Voice critical, where's your video about it? You know, like what? Like it's actually insane. And it's like, oh,

These guys just exist. I know. And are terrible. And they're doing it like all the time and constantly and it's happening a lot. And making millions of dollars. And Jack Doherty specifically. Like you said, you named all those incidents. It's like this happens so many times and everyone's just like. Where's his cancel campaign? You know what I mean? It's actually crazy. They're like, oh my God. Like even Tara Yemi gets hate campaigns all the time against her. And I'm like, what is she even doing? It's just like the way she talks. Yeah, literally. Like, oh my God, she's a pick me. It's like, how about this guy?

This guy is in your lives every day. Like, this is – It's crazy. Yeah, I know. I hate it so much. It's so weird. Because when I saw the number of how many people are watching, I thought all these guys, like, existed on, like, Flop Tropica. You know what I mean? Right, yeah. I was like, they're on their own. I was like, Kick sounds like a flop. Like, no one's there. No one's really watching. Like, who's on Kick? Like – 100,000 people. Literally millions of people. Like, this is crazy. They're actually all really famous, really rich people.

And obviously, they also sign them exclusively too. So I think they get paid so much money up front. Like, Hak Tua just signed a kick, which has me really scared. What? They just signed her. So what does that mean? She's exclusively, her podcast is exclusively on there? I think if she does streaming, like, Corinna, when she, like, live streams gaming and stuff, like, she's only on kick. Oh, my God. Hak Tua, why? I know. They probably just offered a lot of money. But Hak Tua, I don't think a kick is dubious. Good for her.

No, I don't think that even if they seriously have someone who loves money, if they offered me a million dollars, I wouldn't take it. I swear I wouldn't. I wouldn't. Like that just sounds like the devil amongst us for real. Like your soul is being sold. Like that sounds terrifying. I just would not want to be like imagine they do like a billboard for kick and it's like Aiden Ross, Jack Dorsey, Karina Kov.

And I love Corinna and I love – like, I mean, they're pretty. You know, I don't know if I love them, but like they were nice. Corinna was nice to me when I knew her. I don't know her politics. I don't know anything about it. Is the money worth it? It's not. I'm telling you it's not. You're no taxed on it. You're only going to be left with $250,000 by the time you pay taxes and lawyers and managers. Like, you're going to be left with $250,000. You can't even put a down payment on a house here in L.A. with that money. Just don't do it. That makes me so sad.

But maybe I'm going to be positive. Positive glasses are on. Maybe she'll be the change you want to see on cake. No. They're going to take advantage, use her, and hawk tour her out. You know what I mean? Like, that's what's going to happen. Oh, my God. Oh, no. I know. I'm scared for her. I really wanted to get in there and try to help her. Like, because I just, I know the people she's working with, some of the people, and I'm just like, girl, let me help you. Let me save you. How can I get you

can I get you out of this? You know? And he hopes she does okay. I hope so too. I'm a little bit nervous when I saw that news. I was like, damn, kick really do be the devils amongst us. No. I'm scared. I rebuke it. All this energy we just talked about, I rebuke it. I know. We do need to say, we do cover a lot of little sage, dark people today. No, I know. Every time we mentioned that. Yeah. Started with Francesca Valastella.

Honestly. I love that you know her whole government name. I do. I went. I saw. I conquered. Ariana, we love you. Can do no wrong. You know. Stream Sympathies and Knife remix. I love that you know the title. You know everything. I love it. I wish I was on the Brat remix. Well, I'm not.

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