Jeff Wittek Shares Disturbing David Dobrik Lawsuit Details & Exposes Natalie Noel
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Hi, guys.

To our last Pride episode, June is coming to a close. Perfect guess. What better way to start? I know. I was like, oh my gosh, this is chaos in so many ways. But it's Jeff. I'm a little gay. I heard. I think I'm like 12%. I did that quiz online. Oh, that's where this came from. Because we talked about this and I'm like,

You know, I'm always on guard with you. We talked about this right before. Stop it. We're on the same team. Just in general. Okay? You saved me. You've spoken nothing but nice about me for the past year. Before that, it was a little rough. I always spoke nice of you. No, you didn't. No. Calling someone a coward or a chicken or something like that is not talking bad. It's just facts. If you run away from somebody. I'm not no coward. I'm just kidding.

Sorry for cursing in the beginning. We got to censor that. Yeah, yeah, yeah. But she called me a coward off the bat after I said nothing but nice things. Yeah, because I feel like last time, too, I was like, I'm extra hard on you because my defenses are up. And we had Tana here last time, and now we don't have Tana. And Tana offered to be here. Literally last week, she was here. She's like, I'm going to come for the Jeff episode. No, I don't want it. I know, but I was like, no, but you can come anyways. I don't care what Jeff says. You're going to come. And then she's like, I'm going to Mexico next week. And we rescheduled five times with us. So I was like, ugh, I can't.

Okay, let's just do it. I've been dying to get in here and talk to you again. It's nice to have an episode with just us this time. Maybe when we do, because we're going to do my show after. Yeah. And I don't want to have to ask you to come to my studio. I would have loved to have you at my studio. I would have come.

For real? Yeah, I went to cancel last week right after this. What Oscar? Because we booked it right when she had the baby, so everything had to be here. That's true. That's true. You got your Oscar. I got my Oscar. Thank God we have two Oscars that were able to set this up because I don't have the confidence to ask people to do shows. Really? I would have never reached out again. No, but you did the first time, I think, didn't you? Well, I needed that. That was like a therapy session. Do you get rejected for guests? We talked about this with Tana. I get mad when they do. So people have rejected you? Who?

People reject us, so. Who rejected me? Who, like, actually? Oh, Burt Kreischer's f***ing smug ass. Who the f*** do you think you are, Burt Kreischer, you unfunny comedian? You'd be nothing without Joe Rogan. I don't know why.

Geez. Wow. We're starting off hot. I wanted him on my barbershop show and he was like, I'm not letting this guy cut my hair. He's like, he could trim my beard if he wants. Like, who the fuck do you think you are? Oh, damn. You know? You're a YouTuber. You're not a comedian. I don't know what he is. Is he a comedian or a YouTuber? He knows. Is he a comedian or a YouTuber? He does podcasts and they post them on YouTube. He's a YouTuber.

He's a Joe Rogan friend. That's what you are. He's basically Todd of the blog squad. You sell some tickets to shows. I'll sell an arena out right now. I don't think he's selling arenas. I don't think for Christ's sake. I mean, I have no disrespect. I don't know him, but yeah, we're doing our first live show and I only got a 300 seat

because I'm so nervous about it. - Oh, I would be terrified. I don't do that for that reason. I would literally sell 50 tickets. I would never even attempt to go live. That's crazy. - You toured though. - I toured the first time when I was in the Vlog Squad. It sold out, 1,000 seat theaters. But then the second time after I got canceled, that 2019, I think 50 people came to a 1,000 seat theater. So it just looked like a row of people. - Oh, I remember that.

Did you really? Yeah, we were loving it. We were like, look at Trisha. Wait, is that real? Yeah, it's real. That is so weird. I mean. Look, I'm honest. I'm honest. We're friends now, and we could talk about all this stuff that's happened in the past. You talked shit on me before, too. I feel like I didn't. Whatever. Just like the Starbucks incident. And you never saying my name. I was like, oh my God, they're so scared of me. That's all I said. Yeah, you were like, say my name. I didn't say it quite like that. Like Walter White in Breaking Bad. I know.

Say my name. I'm the one who knocks. Have you ever seen Breaking Bad? I didn't see it, but I did do that scene for some acting class once. So I've never seen the show, but I know that scene. Oh, you've done acting classes? Yeah, I did do an acting class. They were fun, right? I've done some. We could have been in the same acting class because we're around the same age. You are a little younger. I will say that for the record. Thank you. Thank you, because you usually round it up. No. And that's very... I'm not ageist anymore. It's fine. Whatever. Wait, so, oh my God, I want to know about this. So what, like I would have like 50 people in front and you guys were like, oh my God, what a loser? Yeah.

- I won't hurt my feelings that way, I just need to know the verbiage used. - No, you know how that cool guy table at the lunchroom is with the vlog squad where it's all like, you know, anybody that's out of that group, they get talked. You know how things go. - Isn't that crazy?

remember I guess I wasn't cool enough I was only in it for a year I just don't remember it too bad like them talking to other people I feel like we were both in it for the same amount of time yeah I guess I was like less than a year but that is why oh my god damn all right starting off hot so much with Bert Kreischer and David Dobrik I mean nobody cares about Bert Kreischer they tuned in for the real juice I don't think my audience knows him if that makes any difference who's another one like is there any girls that rejected you

Miley Cyrus. I DM'd because I really like her and I want to date her, but she never opened it. I mean, don't say that. Then she definitely won't want to come on your podcast because that's already a little threatening. I didn't even ask her to come on the podcast. I want to take her on a date. Oh, okay. Well, that's... I love a confident woman. Okay. I love that performance that she did at the... What was it? The Grammys? Oh, yeah. That was... She dropped the mic. Oh, yeah. Just dancing by herself. She is not super hot. You know what? It's

not unrealistic. I don't even want to call you delusional. Like that could totally happen for you. And I hope it does. You would have manifested. I think I believe in that. I would love that. I'll whatever she wants me to become. I'll get tattoos all over face tats if that's what she's into right now. You're going to just change yourself. I'll change. Yeah. For her. Yeah. I love her mullet. I love her like whole look. I think she has her Miley Cyrus like Hannah Montana hair back now. It's kind of like long like seven things I hate about you. It's like brown. Whatever she wants to do. Okay. Is she age appropriate? How old is she? She's like 30? Shoulder than me. No. No.

Yeah. Instantly now. My age is 32 this year. Oh, yeah. Age appropriate. Look it up. Because...

She's definitely younger than me. You just have that database of celebrity ages in your head? All the Disney girls, Miley, Selena, Demi, all men, too. I'm like that with male actors. That is gay, right? Oscar, you need a mic. Oh, my God. Because it's supposed to be a gay episode. Like, every time I see, like, a Ryan Gosling movie or something, I'll, like, look up the year it came out. Like, in the notebook, he was only 23.

You know? He looked older. He did, right? He looked way older. And he was so cool and like the way he was so charismatic and, you know, he won that girl's heart when he had no money and he was building that house. Stole her back from the rich guy. I don't like that movie and I've said that a lot of times. It's just kind of boring to me but kind of cute. What? It's cute. It's not bad. It's boring. I liked him in Barbie. Who's the gay one here?

I love the notebook. Wait, we weren't supposed to be gay themed. I love that you love that, by the way. You are very girl coded in a lot of ways. Like, I feel like you are set up to date somebody. But I'm also a stone cold killer gangster. Yeah, you are kind of. Yeah, that's how they set it up when I met you in the vlog. Like, with David and stuff, he would be like, wow, he was in prison. Like, everyone kind of set it up for me to be, like, scared of you. And I was, right? Like, you hear someone's from prison and you're just like, oh, my God, I'm so scared. Well, I'm a con artist. Or let's say chameleon. I could blend into. Two different things.

I could blend into any setting. I could come in here and say I was a plumber and I'm here to fix your pipes and I could have robbed the whole house, you know? With a disguise on, like prosthetics. Imagine I came and did that. Do you think about this stuff a lot? Yeah, every night. I think of crimes. I think of movie scenes. Yeah, because I write. I'm into acting. Okay.

Yeah, my brain just races at night. So I have like, I just write in my notes and stuff. How many notes do you have? I'm a real creator. I'm not like a vlog squad member that just hangs out and tries to get in the background of Snapchats. You know, I got real shit going on. No, that's what I love about you. I do love that. And that's why I like you and respect you because you do have your own thing going on. And you had it going on back then too. So it's kind of like... Same with you. You didn't need anybody to put you on. Well, definitely not. Yeah. You've been doing this on your own since... 18 years. 18 years? Yeah.

Yeah, that's incredible. Crazy. I mean, I...

Do you ever burn out? Do you ever feel like... No. No, no. I actually really love it. Even if no one's watching, like there was a couple years, like last year, no one cared. And it's like, I still like it. I still post every day. Like last year, I think I was getting like 20,000 views. It didn't matter. Like even if people are laughing at me, I still was like, this is kind of fun. I don't really care. You know what I mean? Yeah. Now you got kids and a family. Your set's right here in the house and it's fun for you and you can tell you're enjoying it. It's not like forced content. Yeah. Like when you see people, like they really don't want to make content and they're forcing it. Like if you look at...

lives or something. Sorry to say his name. It's fine. We can talk about it. But if you see him on like a live stream, you see the pain in him. He's like, yeah, I'm struggling. I'm going to lose my house. It's sad. I mean, I just feel sad. I don't feel anything. I just that's sad. I mean, because he's sad. Why would you feel for him? He didn't get it.

Right. But, you know, you, like, yeah, like you said, you don't even care if anybody watches. You're just doing this for fun. Like, as an entertainer, people usually fear where their next check's going to come from, if they're going to fall off, if their career's going to come to an end and they're not going to have an audience anymore. Yeah. But you have an audience no matter what. And if you lose them, you'll get another one because you'll just talk shit. Yeah.

I'm not spiral. You'll go on another spiral. I haven't spiraled in a long time. You might need a new one if the views start dropping. I'm unproblematic. No, you're doing great. Thanks. And I'm proud of you. Like I said earlier, you have built a life for yourself here that I aspire to have soon once I'm your age. In a couple years. You know what, though?

I was your age two years ago. I was kind of like, I owed so much in taxes. Like I didn't, no one was watching me. I was like, what do I do? Thank God for OF. You know, I had OF and that was about it. And then I kind of like stopped. But yeah, I can always find ways to make money. You know, I feel like that's like you. I feel like I've always found ways to make money. So I'm never like too worried about anything. That's impressive that you were able to keep a, you know, a positive attitude, like a good poker face, like being in debt and still being positive and silly on the internet to keep things going because-

When you're stressed out, it's hard to make content. Yeah, that's what- Oh, woo-hoo for us content creators. I love making content. I truly, like you were saying, I just like truly love it. Maybe at night when you're thinking of all the thoughts of like crime, maybe you should just do like meditation, just clear your mind. I just bought this stretching machine. Like you sit on, I'm so gay. I'm just like- Well, it's a gay episode. Why don't you even say that? Oscar is here, but he should have a microphone just so you guys can hear.

Why don't you have a mic, Oscar? You can't say that sounds gay. No, it is. This is what I'm doing in my bedroom. It sounds like you're a homosexual. Is that what you mean? Why is a straight man that's 34 years old in his bedroom? I do this in the morning and at night. It's like a wheel and it just stretches your legs because I want to be able to do splits like Jean-Claude Van Damme. You know who that is? Yeah, of course. I talk to people that are younger a lot and they're like, what the

He's even before my generation. I'm not that old, but yeah, I do know him. Yeah, but I just love old school martial arts movies and stuff. You're probably just gagging in your mouth like, ugh, straight man who loves martial arts. I'm giving straight men a chance this year. I think they're not all too bad, but...

Well, thank you. Yeah. Okay, so the joconde, you have a machine. Yeah, so I crank the wheel and I'm trying to get my leg. I want to be able to do a split. He does an iconic picture where he's like split and it looks so, and it does look hot. I want that. I want that. I want that picture. I'm going to do that. Yeah? How close are you? I just got it like three days ago, so I'm not that close yet. Are you flexible? Or maybe like a week ago. I could kick high from Muay Thai training and stuff. Okay. But.

Yeah, I want that. Because he meditates. There's a scene in Bloodsport where he's meditating and he's doing a split on two chairs in the hotel room. And he's just like in complete zen. And his boy comes in and he's like, yo, Frankie, we got to get the fuck out of here. And he can't even hear him. He's in such a state of zen. Yeah, he's just out of it. And that's like me in my house because it's chaos. And people are always like, yo, Jeff, we got to shoot. And I'm just in there on my stretching machine just...

blocking them out. I don't respond. Oh, are you? Are you zoned out? Are you meditating at that point then? I fake it. Okay, you should actually do it. You would like blossom soar so high. I swear meditation changed my life. When you can just be blank with your thoughts, the universe brings answers and creations to you, like writing, all this stuff that comes to you if you're just silent for like an hour a day. I do take time before podcasts at my house. I'll like cold plunge and I'll go for a run. I make sure I get my heart rate up and then I bring it down.

And like the cold punch will bring your heart rate down. So I'm like in a state of zen when I go in to do the podcast because I want to feel confident and, you know. Clear-minded. Yeah, clear-minded. So are you not thinking when you're running? Like are you – you're just like listening to music or something. You're not like thinking of ideas for a script or something. Yeah, I'll listen to music, which is not really the best for meditation. But I'll also do hyperbaric chambers. Oh.

And those I actually meditate in because you just put on the headphones and it's breathing exercises. So hyperbaric chambers are the best thing to heal your brain damage. If you got like a serious traumatic brain injury, they can't like cut open your head and like just fix the damage, you know? So, uh, hyperbaric chambers, it's pure oxygen. It,

It just like oxygenizes your blood and oxygen in your blood is what heals things. So all that blood flow that's going to your brain with pure oxygen, pressurized oxygen, heals your brain and it'll actually make you feel sharper. It heals injuries all over. So I do that three times a week on my own credit card that I'm going to ask for that. Add it to the tab. Add it on. Yeah, because that's expensive as fuck.

Was it recommended by your doctor or was this an outside source? No, every doctor will recommend a hyperbaric chamber. I've never heard of this. Is it completely encapsulated? Yeah, Michael Jackson used to sleep in them. That's what I thought. Okay, he's lying down. But they're like $250,000, so Michael Jackson just bought one for his house. But him and Justin Bieber, they'll sleep in them because even if you're like...

doing a lot of drugs or like drinking a lot, it does kill a lot of brain cells. So if you can just sit in that for an hour a day, you can really, I mean, I'm not saying just go on a bender and then go into it, but you know, that I feel like has really helped me get back to myself from like doing that a lot. How long have you been doing it for?

Since the accident. Oh, wow. So, oh my gosh. So did you have actual... I've probably spent a hundred grand doing them, but it's... I don't mind it because I'll be in there writing and meditating and stuff. And I learned a lot about breathing exercises, how to calm yourself down without using substances. I was all Kalana pinned out. Like I was f***ed up because I had so much anxiety at the time because, you know, when you got to get a knife in your eye next week and you're thinking about it, like, I don't know if you ever had plastic surgery or like...

you know, like plastic surgery on your body is one thing, but when like you're going into a surgery where it's like this knife has to go behind my eye, like what, I might be blind with like, there's a 10% chance even. No, that's like a completely different thing. So I'm panicking like the month of, and I would take a lot of Klonopin. I got prescribed from a doctor because he's like, yeah, you have to.

Trauma and anxiety like it makes sense. So I got Welbutrin, I got Klonopin and it was... Yikes! You should have prefaced it! Nah, because I don't want to get in. I was always like...

I don't need drugs. I'm like this sober guy and I'll just go run or something, you know? Yeah. But after all that, I ended up getting a lot more vulnerable and I feel like that helped me be more real with my audience and stuff. That's like a positive thing. Because why, I mean, yeah, that is wild. Because why were you hiding it up to that point? Because you didn't want to talk about it. Like, why were you hiding it? Well, I was still friends with the kid, you know? Yeah. I didn't process it all. Like, I didn't process that...

he was trying to fling me off to get a bit, you know, like that was, it's basically what he did was, and I think you say it really well. It's like, say your friend pulls up in a brand new Ferrari and he's like, yo, check out my new car, hop in the driver's in the passenger seat. Let's go for a ride. I put on my seatbelt and he just does 150 in a parking lot and slams my side and I get

brain damage and he's fine. That's basically what happened. It's a little different. I got on a rope, but I was not told that that's what was going to happen. You know David says, it's only funny when people get hurt. He wanted it to happen. He likes when people get a little hurt for his videos. I did see this morning, have you seen Andrew Schultz's clip talking about it?

Yeah, I want to get into that on my podcast if that's okay. Okay, well, he just said something. We can talk about your feelings after. How do you know this? I see everything. Oscar, did you find that? Because he hid that behind his Patreon wall. Yeah, TikTok. There's a little gossip account on TikTok that I... But I did see just a little clip. And you don't have to see how you reacted. I want to play it because I can't even watch it that day.

It pisses me off so much. Oh, it pissed you off. So I want us to react to it on my show. Just going on what you said, I was just saying, he kind of said the same thing. He's like, people don't really watch, like David, you were saying about David, people don't watch things because it's safe. They watch them because they like want to get hurt and stuff like that. Not that he was, he was blaming you in this. I'm not blaming you. But it is kind of that same thing with David. It's like he wants people to have, like he didn't just want to fly you around, you know? Yeah. But we can talk about it on yours. He'd be like, there's plenty of videos of people doing this. Like we need some like funny shit.

Where somebody flies off into the water. But it was two feet of water, you know? Either way, I'm getting, like, seriously hurt in that situation. So, yeah, like, I agreed to do something, but it changed to something else. So, f*** you, Andrew Schultz. You're not even funny. I can't remember a funny thing you ever said, and you're a comedian. So...

You know, how does that make sense? Yeah. But we'll get into his shit after. Well, this is something that's a little older then, but kind of on the same vibe. Mike Malak also telling you, like, worried about your tweets and stuff and telling you to kind of, like, let the stuff go with David. When I was manic, yeah. Were you manic? Yeah, I was manic because I just had a doctor's appointment and, like, I'm dealing with lawsuits.

It's stressful. So, you know, seeing him in like Paris showing up his hotel room and I'm in the doctor's office getting told like the nasty procedure they have to do now where they're like, this time we're going to try putting a metal cone to push your eyeball forward. And that's going to sit in your eye for the rest of your life. And I'm like, that sounds like it sucks. And then he's like, yeah, I think I can. Like, he's like confident this guy's really good, this new doctor. But he's also like.

Um, you know, you'd be prone to getting like glaucoma or cataracts in that eye in the future and whatever. I'm fortunate that I didn't lose complete vision in it. Yeah. So I'm happy with that. But you know, there's still dealing with, so seeing him just throw money at the lawyers to push it and stuff that like was pissing me off. So I was like, can Snapchat, like now I start, I got pissed off and I was like, I, cause I made like probably $1,000.

100 grand off of Snapchat in the few months that I was doing it. When did you do it? People are making so much. I'm not on Snapchat, so I don't know. It's fizzling out. It's not a business model that will work because they're just overpaying creators. Who really gives a fuck about David in Paris? Are they paying a flat rate or is it like AdSense where it's how many views you get on your story? Yeah, it goes by how many views you get. Then everybody clickbaits a woman at the end and sexualizes them. It didn't feel right for me.

I would like clickbait myself. Like you said before the show, you were like, why don't you show your body more or something? First of all, wait, though. Let me preface this. Oscar has said it's a gay theme and thought you were coming in a crop top. I'm like, and I was just listening to the conversation. I'm like, that was Oscar's idea for that. And I was like, but I'm surprised you don't because you always show yourself working out. And I just said, if I were to work out all the time, I would. I don't care what you wear. You can be completely covered up. It's probably better that way. Yeah, but I don't, I'm not like a,

I play into the arrogant character a lot. I don't work out to be a bodybuilder. I work out genuinely because it's the only thing that helps me mentally. It's not a vanity thing for you. For me, it's completely vanity. I would just show it off. Look how skinny I am. I've been the same since high school. I've had the same build. Even if I eat

It's still stays the same. I know. I'm sorry to whoever. I mean, look, you're lucky in some ways and unlucky in other ways. I can barely see right now. So, you know, I can't even see my abs. So I can feel about, is that, so are you, cause that was also brought up too, is like you're someone's like that you went blind, but you didn't fully go blind in that eye. It's blurred vision. It's just blurry. So sometimes like, uh, uh,

Andrew Schultz is gonna love this. He's gonna go on another rant. I ain't gonna shut up about it. When the fuck you gonna shut up about it? But like if I'm shaving my beard, I have to close an eye to like clean my shit up. So I'm always like, you know, because it'll affect the depth perception. So even if I'm like watching a movie at night and like it starts like at night, it'll start to get like a little lazy. And then I'm like just watching a movie like this. I find myself like watching it with my eyes closed.

Well, it's trauma too. I mean, I'm not saying like, oh, you didn't go blind, but I'm just saying like all the other stuff that happened, the head injury, the brain damage, the trauma, going through all the surgeries, like you said, is like,

I can't even imagine. Like that's wild. Yeah, but look at us now. Killing it. We're the only ones still standing on our own two feet by ourselves. Yeah. No, but I think this is because we were like our own thing before going in, which I think is a big thing. I think a lot of people – in general, I think a lot of people kind of cling, which I think was smart. You were talking about how you don't want to cling to another creator like impulsive. Like you didn't want to like follow Logan around. Where did you hear me say this? You said it on your podcast.

Do you watch Jeff FM like sometimes? I see clips. Yeah. Okay. And you were saying, and I thought that was like interesting because I was like, that's, that is smart. Like it's good to like, like I always did it with like Shane or Jeffrey or, you know, anybody like you'd go with like bigger clap, David, you go with bigger collaborators to get an audience, but like you don't make it your whole personality, you know, like following him around.

him around and stuff like that. Yeah, because then they fuck up and it's on you. Like, I lost so many brand deals when he organized those sexual assaults. You know? Yeah, well, that was bad. That was... Because my name's attached to it. You Google my name, if you go to whatever, you're going to see pictures with me in the sky who's done all these terrible things and, you know...

Publicists and stuff don't want to work with me because I'm attached to him still. And it sucks, you know? I think the defending is the part. You know what I mean? Because it's like when Chris D'Elia got in trouble with his scandal, it's like everyone else, like Whitney Cummings, all the people were kind of like, okay, we don't like stand by it. But I think you like stood by him maybe for a little bit too long. Yeah. Well, I didn't realize everything. You know, it takes time to process trauma. That's true.

um I feel like such a little talking about this like it takes time to process trauma no I think that's so good that you do because you are the straight bros of the YouTube world that don't talk about it so I think it's good especially like people who watch ours you know what I mean like people because it's just like it does make me sad we can talk about Andrew on your thing but when people say like it's or Mike too like you know I'm worried about you why are you still talking about it's like it's such a thing that consumes you and I can't even imagine something that like

destroyed like your brain and stuff like that but it's something that consumes you. Well I give Mike a hard time all the time. I'm like I break his balls like that's hard comedy like you know me and my boys but I go a little hard on Mike so it's alright if he wants to say something like that like he thought I was on drugs and stuff but I was actually sober when I was doing that. I was just

I was so, I was just letting out, you know, emotions because I was like, why am I staying silent? Like if he's pushing this lawsuit, I didn't give a fuck about money from the lawsuit. I make money. You know, I probably shouldn't say that, but it's like a lifetime plan and it's what I'm deserve. I'm owed because I'm paying for all this.

You know, it's coming out of my pocket. Yes. His responsibilities, his actions are now costing me a lot of fucking money. My next surgery is 80 Gs. Yeah, he should definitely, especially if he agreed to paying for him to, and he should anyways, but it's just like you were digging the analogy of the guy in the car. Like if you got a brand new car and smashed you, like he's still responsible. The person driving is still responsible for smashing you. You know what I mean? So did that,

Did the lawsuit getting pushed, did that happen around the same time you were tweeting? Or was that like before? Yeah. Okay. And you don't know how long. They just pushed it. You had a court date and they're like, actually, we're rescheduling. Yeah. I just want to go to trial because that'd be so... Wouldn't you love that? Reacting to trial? Yeah. I mean... How many episodes did you get off that? Oh my gosh.

If it was a Johnny Depp we ever heard. She would be in the courtroom with like a live stream thing, IRL streaming in the courtroom. I wish I could be a witness, but I wasn't there. But I wish I could have been a witness for you. I'm sure we could get you in there, in the deposition room. Okay, just kidding.

He did all of you. He showed up at the mental hospital and filmed me. Well, I don't know if that helps your case. Well, it just shows a pattern of behavior. Oh, that's true. With David, yeah. But you were also with him, so I thought maybe that didn't help your case. I didn't come in. I was respectful enough to wait in the lobby. I'm like, I'm not filming this girl at her rock bottom crazy mental breakdown. That was crazy to think about. I don't want to be no part of this shit.

I was just around. I was like, I thought we were going to In-N-Out to vlog in the parking lot. We got stopped by Cedars-Sinai first. Yeah, that's exactly how it went. It was such an insane time. And then what happened after when he came out? Was he like, all right, let's just go? Or did he have any sort of sympathy? Or was he just like, ah, we'll film something else? Maybe you like yelled or something or threw something at them or like, get the fuck out.

Yeah, definitely. And that's when I got Ativan. They stabbed Ativan in me because they just thought I was like unhinged. So they didn't. The hospital staff did. Damn, that's like girl interrupted like mental hospital. Do you like that movie? Actually, I haven't seen it.

You haven't seen it? You'd love it. Especially because you can relate. And Angelina Jolie is so cool in it. It's an older movie, right? I remember the poster. I don't think I saw it. You should watch it tonight. You'd love it. Is it about a girl in a mental hospital? I don't know. It's about all girls in a mental hospital. Oh, that sounds triggering. But Angelina Jolie makes everything cool, you know? Yeah. She makes me want to go to a mental hospital after watching it. Okay. Work. Work.

She's dope. She's the coolest. Okay, I'll watch it. I don't know. I feel like I still have a little trauma from some mental hospitals. I was there three times in 2019, so I'm like, oh, a little trauma. You should have Dr. Drew on your podcast. He could help you through some of this. That's like you suggesting, like, go watch eye surgery documentaries. I'm like, ah, okay.

probably is a movie where it's like there's like something coming at your eye i remember that i forgot what it's called it's like something where it's like oh like a clockwork orange um yeah i'm good yeah that movie's up when they like even the beginning scene where they run in and they wife yeah it's a little in front of him right it's a little that was wild yeah

I could see the vlog squad doing something like that, though. I was about to say it. I was like, let me not. I was going to say it before you said that. I was like, it's a vlog squad. And then you said that. I was like, I shouldn't say that. You know, like Todd, Scott, and David just going in there with those outfits on. Like, yeah, guys, this will be a sick bit. Where do you ever see them, Todd and Scott? Like, I never. Yeah. They're around. You're cool with them? No. I mean, Scott, I still. Like, he's always been nothing but nice to me and supportive. But, you know, they have to do what they have to do. You know, they don't really have...

The confidence to go out on their own and just try to do things on their own. It's tough. It's tough to make it an entertainment. For sure. I mean, that is the good thing about OF. People just go there to start making money and at least it's there. You know, that's what I did. Yeah. Provides them some income. Yeah. I had thoughts of giving up several times and just kind of falling back and just waiting to play out this lawsuit. But I love making content and, you know, I've gone through all the shit.

the shit i've given a piece of my brain and eye for this i gotta keep this ship going and i love my audience you know that they genuinely are like my therapists you know i do members now so like i have chats with people and when i did patreon like i i'll really talk to them i'll talk to people with eye injuries or like if they've been in accidents or like sobriety stuff or if i can help people lose weight or motivate them to run and fitness like marathons that i do and

Yeah, so I have to keep going. And I'm fueled by revenge. And success is the best revenge. That's true. I would love to be... I don't care that much about money, but being richer than David would be nice. Just to be like, look, I did it with one eye, motherfucker. Maybe, yeah. I don't know if David's happy, though. He does have a lot of money, but I don't know if he's a happy person. Neither am I. You're not happy? I have moments of happiness. Yeah, I've...

I've been happier lately. Okay. Because I've had like a breakthrough. I just got to a point in my life. I think you go through different chapters and like now that I'm 34 and like my team has been with me for like seven, eight years, you know? That's wild. And we've gone through so much. Like I'm financially comfortable. Like I have achieved my dreams. Yeah.

like from fitness things I wanted to accomplish to YouTube things and like just all that stuff. Like I want to keep it going, but like these guys helped me get there. So now I want to help them do whatever they want to do. And just like, you know, getting a closer relationship with my family because my parents are getting older. So talking to them a lot, you know. Are you close? Have you always been close with them? No, I was a bad kid. So I was like in and out of jail. So they like disowned me for a year. Not disowned me.

You know, they paid lawyers and bail money, which now I'm like paying them back by like taking them on extravagant vacations. I just sent them the Rolling Stones concert, got them the best seats that I could buy. In New York we won.

They live in New York, yeah. But the Rolling Stones are still touring. My dad has went to the one in Cleveland. I was like, wait, did it just happen? Because they just came back from Cleveland to see them. Yeah, it's crazy. And they were so happy about it. They loved it. Yeah, they had such a good time. They're like 70 years old going to concerts, you know? I love that. Are they in good shape and stuff? They're like active? My dad drinks a lot of beer, but he rides his bike everywhere.

every day for like 30 miles. Isn't that crazy? My dad does that too. He walks eight miles every day and I'm just like, what the heck? Like he just walks around and he does like intermittent fasting. I was like, damn, okay. It's good though because you know, they're getting up there and I couldn't imagine like getting a phone call or something that like something happened. They'll live to be a hundred. I always say that. I'm like, they're going to be a hundred. That's plastic. You can knock on the Birkin. I probably have wood in there from the surgery. Yeah.

Metal, wood, bone paste. Oh my gosh. That's actually so sad. Don't worry about it. But you find your happiness with your family, with your crew. And then I saw on – you were on Bradley Martin's podcast and you talked about – they asked about your insecurities and you kind of joked first. But then you kind of said you had like commitment issues. Yeah.

Yeah. How much research did you do? How do you have all this time to watch podcasts? I don't. I prepare for my interviews. I watched it all last night. I did a little binge on you. A Bradley Martin episode. You sat through a three-hour steroid podcast. What?

I don't even remember what I said. Half the things I say are just blurred out. No, you were being real. At first you were like joking and then you started being real. I have the other list of insecurities if you want me to tell you what your other ones were. You said you eat too much candy, commitment issues, bad memory, and brain damage. That's not an insecurity. That's just a bad habit. While you said that was your insecurity. No, that's not a real insecurity. I'm going to eat a bunch of candy tonight. I don't give a fuck. You do eat candy? I'll say it right now. Yeah. I have a candy addiction. To what kind? At least I'm not doing heroin and...

other stuff that feels real good. Like what? Because heroin feels good. It does kind of numb your legs a little, huh? It puts...

I don't want to tell kids out there, don't do it. No, you definitely will die at some point. Yeah, it just feels too good. You'll get addicted. I've only done the pills, like Oxy's I've tried when I was younger. And when you do surgery and you get on those Vicodins, it's like... It's addicting. I know, even after a C-section, I didn't want to take any pain pills. I'm like, no. But they do numb your whole bottom half, which feels a little like heroin. And so it's really a good feeling that first day. You're like...

Yeah, that's the one positive thing about surgery is I get to get a little high the week after. You have to. I mean, you have to. It's like doing a metal piece back on your eye or whipping a baby out of you. You have to have something to numb the pain, you know? How was your last birth? Did you do an epidural? Yeah, spinal tap. Have you ever had one of those? Oh, I don't know. They give it for different things because of all your surgeries. That one is because you're awake. You have to be awake to deliver your baby. It's a big-ass needle that goes in your back, right? In your spine. And I had a really big bruise. They missed like five times before.

Oh, damn. Were you about to snap and be like, give me a new doctor? Yeah, they did give me a new doctor. Because other than that, they'd have to put you to sleep. And then it's like dangerous for the baby. And it's like all that stuff like that. So I was like, yeah, but you know, I'm experienced also because of heroin. I feel like I experienced enough needle missing that I was like, it's fine, I guess, you know? Yeah, but it's frustrating when the needle's not going in. You feel it. And honestly, like you'd hear cranking and shock sent through your hips. You're just like, oh, but once that hits, it's good. You know, you're just kind of like chilling. But they literally like cut you open, yeah, while you're just awake and just

pushing a baby on out of your... Yeah, and if that anesthesia is in your blood, it could affect the baby's brain or whatever. Yeah, they can't. Because anesthesia is serious. Yeah, it's super strong. Even the week after, like, you are...

Like, if they have to keep your brain, like, shut down, like, you're like a computer that's getting shut down. Yeah. And, like, it's really bad for your brain. Yeah, they really don't recommend it. And so, like, they were like, let's just keep trying or something. And I was like, okay, but, yeah. I mean, it's definitely, again, the eye, I'd rather do C-sections all day long than doing, like, my eye or my brain. The fact that you, like, if you could not see, I'd be like, I don't know, I just, I couldn't even. I can't even do LASIK. I can't get a contact in my eye. I can't do shit because I just, like, flutter too much. Damn, imagine men had to have babies for that.

Would you want to experience it? I mean, if it was like, if I was the first male in history to have a baby, then, you know, that'd be cool for my legacy. You know, like Lance Armstrong or no, Neil Armstrong, like the first guy to walk on the moon. Like I'd be the first Jeff Wittek, first male to have a baby. You would do it then? Yeah.

Yeah, because I'd be clouded up. Well, you could fake it. You could always fake it and say you had a baby. That's what they did on the moon. They faked the first moon landing. So you could do that with your birth. Yeah, I think they did too. I believe in that conspiracy. I listened to it on Joe Rogan when he talks to people about it. Why don't you go on his podcast?

Because you're talking about Bert Kreischer. You got to get invited. And yeah, I also talk about all his friends too. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I feel you. I only know Joe Rogan. Do you remember him from Fear Factor? That's all I remember him from. I watch UFC, so he commentates on it and he knows a lot about martial arts. So I like listening to his commentary. Even if I'm like invited to fight, sometimes I like to stay home and watch them because I like to listen to the commentary. Really? Yeah. You don't get that in real life?

No, if you're there at the live show. You don't hear Joe Rogan? You just hear the audience screaming. Really? It'd be cool if they gave you headphones and you could listen to the commentary. Yeah, because they were talking about doing sound boards. And I was like, how is she going to hear it? And they're like, headphones. And I was like, that's wild. You just have headphones on for your podcast and just listen to someone making little noises in your ear? Oh, yeah, you got to put headphones on soon. I mean, I'll do it, but I mean, kind of weird. But you could do the same thing, like you said, with fighting. Yeah.

Yeah, I guess. But that would kind of defeat the purpose if you're in an arena with your friends and everybody's having fun drinking beers and you've got your headphones on. And what are you watching? Boxing or MMA? I watch all combat sports. Damn. And you're going to compete soon in one.

no i'm doing a movie playing a boxer oh i thought you were fighting and i was like let's not do that no no i can't get cleared i can't in a maybe if i fought in russia they like a commission would clear me but no i can't get cleared with a medal in my eye i didn't know i could do i could do like a spar in a gym with headgear on like if andrew schultz responds to my call outs i would love to bust him up with headgear on i don't think you should fight and i'm not gonna get hit by him anyway you know i don't think he's like a

fighter right he boxes okay yeah supposedly that's what i've heard but do you know his age not that we care about age here but you know his age probably 40 or something you know yeah maybe 39 but let's round up okay just go 40 just you know 40s um so you're not okay so you're not fighting i thought i saw in your story that you were doing mma so you're doing a movie yeah i that's exciting i've i've loved it for so long you know like it's been such a part of my life i've been

in and out of boxing gyms. Like I, I'm not going to say I trained boxing for 10 years, but like I've been in and out of wild card. It's like a famous boxing gym in LA, one of the most famous in the country or the world. Um,

so i've been going there for a long time i really wanted to do an influencer fight before the accident and with who i wanted austin mcbroom or like anybody that disrespects women you know like the fresh and fit guys like the fit one i want a good fight you know if you're fit let's see how fit you are okay i don't know if i don't i don't know who they are but i want to want to go against them they disrespect women and i don't

I feel like most men disrespect women online. I don't think there's one that defends women. This guy right here. Until you're making fun of them not selling out a show and being like, oh look, the 50, what a loser. That was off camera. And it wasn't even me saying it. I don't give a f*** about your ticket sales back then. It was other people. I won't mention any names. Tell me the names, please. You know the names. You know who it was. No, is it the main people that I know or people I didn't know? Like the Carly and Aaron's?

No, it wasn't Carly and Aaron. Matt King. No. Zayn. It was the leader of the group. Wow.

That's kind of a flex, actually, that David cared that much. He's like watching my stories. It's kind of nice. Yeah, because when you get banished from that group, you have to be like, look at them. They're going crazy. They're the bad ones. They f***ed up that they had to get banished from our group. But nope, look at us now. You know, we weren't crazy. You were crazy, mother f***er. Oh my gosh. Okay, yeah. So we, okay. It feels good, though. No, right? To like hear...

All these things come true that you were saying and you were getting called crazy. Oh, yeah. Yeah, like the validation of when truth comes out feels good for sure. Not for me because I had my skull cracked open. Your story is wild. I always will say that. Yours is actually the wildest thing I've ever heard. And it's actually crazy to me that people don't talk about it more, how it is just swept under the rug. He's just doing shows and doing all this stuff like that. Would you ever box him now that he's getting fit on Zilla Fit? I would love to. That would be a hate crime. You can't hit a gay guy. Oh, my God.

I don't think you can say that. I could say it on this show, right, Oscar? No, I don't think so. No. Oh, right. We need Oscar microphone for this. No, I tried before and he said no. He would never. Oh, because you're like, I won't say what happened. I would hurt him. I would put him in a coma.

I need to know about the Natalie thing. You said forging, she was trying to forge it to make it like a year liable, like forging receipts to look like you're liable. What is that? That's new news. I haven't heard this before. Yeah. Well, at the time after the accident, I was like so screwed up and just processing what happened. And they were trying to get me to like fill out this paperwork and stuff because they needed like an actual accident report to get me on that like bull workers comp, which is bull.

You know, I don't know how much I could get into it. Yeah, they gave me some bullshit thing to get like surgeries from like in urgent care. You know, like it was like. Yeah, like urgent care. What are they going to do? Isn't that like fraud or something? I feel like he should go to like prison for that. That's like actually crazy. I hope he gets deported. I hope Natalie goes on to the jail. I hope she's in that orange is the new black.

Well, hopefully they think accountability. And she's just in the women's jail. I mean, it's just something – I think what's the most frustrating about it, and, like, maybe you can tell me if I'm wrong, but, like, from your perspective is, like, they really didn't – like, for me, I got, like, validated, right? Okay, what Trisha was saying is right. Those girls came forward with their story. Like, you know, just, like, stuff like that. Okay, it feels a little validated that I wasn't a liar. Like, everyone made me out to be crazy. But with yours, it's almost like they didn't have any repercussions. They kind of were just like, Jeff looks crazy. You look unhinged. So now it's kind of, like, rolling into you, right? Yeah. Like, with the tweets.

So I got frustrated. But wait till trial when that comes up and it's a paper that is in Natalie's girly bubble handwriting. It's definitely. What's it say? I write like chicken scratch. Yeah. So you know my signature. It looks terrible. Oh, she forged your signature. Yeah. Actually. And said David was said that I was driving the crane. David had nothing to do with it. I mean, that's like a serious crime to forge someone's signature. I can't wait for trial. I mean, that's actually wild. Have you talked about that?

Just with you right now. Holy wild. That's wild. We're spilling the tea. I mean... I might be f***ing up my lunch. No. First of all, spill tea with me is going to clip all of us. There'll be 10 of us. She's on it. She's like 20. But I don't care because she used to say things to me. Like she was so cold to me. She would be like...

why do you need another surgery your eye looks fine like oh my god yo you she's evil and she also said that i got on the crane to impress her because i had a crush on her i'm like yo you people are delusional like you got some followers because of david and the vlogs but she's you are not you are not no and miley cyrus you know i've been saying this about her for so long too because she is actually evil evil i know some and it doesn't pertain to me directly so i can't really say it otherwise if it was me i would say it all day long but there was some like evil

She did to so many people. And I've always said that about her. And I'm like, that's wild. And then to hear that, that's really... If David killed someone and was like, Natalie, chop up this body and bury it somewhere, I wouldn't be surprised. I mean, it's basically what happened with me. They were trying to wipe the fingerprints off the gun immediately in the hospital. I was only allowed one person in that hospital room because it was COVID time. And it was David. So David's in there. And he's screenshotting a meme that I sent him before he even...

like before the accident happened and he opened his messages in there and he's like oh this is gonna be evidence if jeff ever tries to screenshot it yeah so i'm thinking i'm in there with my close friend but this guy's in there wiping the fingerprints off the gun that he just oh my god that's wild like they're sick i thought i was a bad guy growing up but like i never did no

Like that? Yeah, it's almost like psychotic. It's almost like it's different than making bad decisions. Like how self-obsessed are you with your own career and image and public perception of you? Yeah. Like just be a good person. It's not that hard. Yeah. You know? And they have so much things to cover up and hide and they want to say people are crazy like us. But, you know, the truth always comes out. Oof.

That like gives me chills for real. That's like a really that's like really sick I did not I didn't know that when I heard that I was like wait Is this like real and that's the problem too is like when you do the tweets I didn't think they were bad But then when you do like a bunch of tweets and people like oh Jeff's crazy Jeff this let this go But then when you hear like that, it's probably so much more that will come out and I hope but you have to it can't be dismissed Right, the case can't be dismissed. Who knows? I don't know this stuff. I've never been in a lawsuit. They're just pushing it They're not trying to dismiss. They're just pushing it. So they're hoping you know, they're trying to get it dismissed. I

They want it thrown out. They're like, this is stupid. Like, we don't owe him anything. He's fine. That's wild. And you're going to keep going. Hell yeah. Good. I'll fight to the death. Okay. And you still have pro bono lawyers? It's not pro bono. I said pro bono just because I don't know lawyer terms. But it's like they'll do the case because they believe in it so much that they're going to win. So they will take their fee when...

it's done and it's all said and done, but it's a massive fee and it's a lot of money that it costs. But even my lawyers are getting frustrated because they have to spend a lot of money to, to go back and forth. So I could get a call from my lawyers and be like, Hey, this is costing us too much money. And we don't know, like they got a really good lawyer. So we, we might have to drop you, you know, like who knows? I don't like, I don't think that'll happen. You never know. So then will you just say everything? If it ever gets dropped? Yeah. Then I'll just go nuts. Yeah.

Or at least just put it all out there. Yeah. But then that's a whole other thing. I hope they go on like the actual criminal stuff they're doing too because that's – it's one thing to get your money, like what you're owed for your medical expenses, but another thing to actually have like them covering up a crime. Like that's worse than like committing the crime. I don't even know how that would go because there's statute of limitations on stuff like that. Unless you really like murder somebody, there's no statute of limitations for murder. If you murder somebody or like file stuff, there's no statute of limitations for that.

But if you do like a violent crime or something, there's sometimes it's like, even with the case for me to pursue the like civil case, I had a statute of limitations in LA. It was like two years. Right. So I just got it in at the last minute. And if it wasn't for you and all the stuff that made me see what this kid was really doing and what type of person he really was and like the situation I was in, I probably wouldn't have made the statute of limitations a cutoff. Right.

And it was his podcast that he put out where he was like, yeah, you know, Jeff is just always crazy trying to push it. And like he and he showed the joke meme that I sent him that he hadn't seen till after he had already done the damage. And like I was like, this is how this feels. This is how he's going to go for the rest of his life. This is how he's going to share the story. And he twisted my words. The one thing I said to him when we were alone was like,

Don't put this on me. I already have the embarrassing video to live with. I'm already going to have people making fun of me for this. You got to own up to that. You did some stupid shit. Yeah. And he took that as like, don't ever tell anybody it was my idea. Like you sick.

So I'm watching the podcast and they're like, yeah, David, go ahead. You know, speak your truth, speak your truth. And David's like, it was the worst day of my life. That's wild. I would go unhinged. I would go unhinged at that point. Yeah, but I was still processing it. So I was like, all right, mother. I told you I would never do. I would have your back if you like at least listen to my one wish. But now.

You're going down. Yeah. And beating you up is an easy way out. I'm not doing that. Because it's like you beat somebody up, what, he gets a little roughed up and he heals up in a couple months. And you like get in trouble and. Yeah. And I get no points for beating up David. Yeah. You know. No, it's much better the way you're doing it.

now yeah I think it'll go somewhere but it would piss me off too because he should have gone into hiding honestly when you like commit a crime that's one thing right and like you should go into hiding either way but then also like to also try and like cover it up and be like you're the victim or you're the innocent one and then like just go out living your life is actually crazy just get off the internet yeah nobody likes you you're hiding from you're only on snapchat because there's no comments he doesn't right you know when he did his podcast he

It was just like all hate comments. So they stopped their podcast. Yeah. And they were failing at it. And David can't take failure. He just can't take any public. He doesn't want to see his numbers go down. Yeah. And Jeff FM, just Trish, is getting more numbers than David Dobrik's podcast. No, he can't have that. Yeah. So that's why he quit. And he just does Snapchat. You know, nobody can comment your piece of shit or whatever. They might be sending him DMs, but he's probably like...

They just don't know. Yeah. He's so narcissistic where he's just like, whatever, they're jealous or this. It's been four years exactly, right? Since yesterday of the accident. And so like, do you feel any different? Like back then when it happened, you obviously were still by David. Oh my God. Yesterday was June 25th. Yeah. Wow. Crazy, right? You know more about me than I know about myself. Well, I do like to prepare. I don't like to stop you, but I've been prepared before. No, but that's, thank you for telling me. Yeah. So how do you feel four years later? Yeah.

I've come a long way, but I do like I'd be lying if I didn't say that I feel a bit like my life has been paused from that moment. You know, like I like I was 30 at that time and I was even in the documentary I made. I was like, I finally like like how I look. I'm happy. Like I have money and my life's finally going good. And then like a week later that the worst thing happens that really checked me. Yeah.

But sorry, what was the question? Just how you feel four years later. Like, do you feel different in the sense of like, do you feel about the accident? Like, would you change it? Like, are you like, you know, some people can be thankful for it happening. Like, oh, I got to see their real colors. I got out of it. Something worse could happen. Like, what do you feel?

I would take back the smack in my head on the crane just because like, I'm still dealing with the surgeries and stuff, but I needed to get out of that group. I needed to get it. Like I needed to see David for his true colors, which I don't know if that would have ever happened. Like, you know, there's people in groups with influencers that are huge and they just are attached to them and they don't want to get out of it because they love what comes along with it. Like,

Mike gets tickets to front row at WrestleMania. Not saying that he needs to not be friends with Logan. They have a great relationship. Logan's my friend too. But I needed to have something drastic happen to me to pull me out of that. So no, I wouldn't take back the accident and that situation. But I would take back...

You know, I would like to just see normal because, you know. No brain damage and paying all this money. I mean, do I seem that brain damage? No, you look great. Because you keep going on the brain damage. No, you were talking about the hydro. Am I stuttering or something? No, no. I was shocked to learn about the brain damage. Subliminal roasting. No. Yeah, no. You did, yes. You look great. And your eye. I said that last time you were here. Your eye actually looks better than even last time. I thought it looked great last time. Okay, Natalie.

- What? What am I saying? You look great. - I'm just kidding. - Ow, you don't need any more-- - I'm just saying. - I got you. I was like, wait, what? Got it. No, you look great. - I'm not saying, your eye looks fine. Do you really need another surgery? - Well--

Sounds made up, but like... No, it doesn't. Especially from the Natalie. I know actually worse about Natalie. So the stuff you said is wild, but it's like I've heard worse. Yeah. But it is crazy to... And also I think because of your accident too, like he stopped vlogging, so maybe you saved a bunch of people from like getting hurt. You know what I mean? Like there could have been, again, way worse things after you. I'm a hero. Yeah.

Well, you ended the vlog, so in a way, yes. Yeah, they stopped after you. No, they didn't. He kept going. He was vlogging with Leonardo DiCaprio, taking everybody to Hawaii when he had eye surgery. No, but once it came out, like once the eye got exposed, when you exposed what happened, then he stopped. When the eye fell out, yeah. When you came out with the truth, you know, everyone's like, oh, shit. Popped right out and then vlogs. Well, how sick. He just kept vlogging after that. Like that was happening and he was still like...

You know, kept blogging. That's, I mean, he's just... Narcissist. Yeah, Snapchat shame on you for... That's what's crazy. Oh my God, can we talk about that? It's like...

just like the Cody coves of the world all these people who are like done actual problematic stuff and they don't get canceled they get sponsors they get like praise they get all the stuff and like David's another one like it's crazy like I didn't get sponsors for years because I like made a video like five years ago that I thought I was transgender because I I'm non-binary so I didn't know my gender and I got canceled for the rest of my life David almost kills you Cody co is like sleeping with underage people and it's just like absolutely crazy that they just get sponsors and like why is that like why do they get a pass yeah and

Is it just because they're light, because they're cute, they're boys? What is it? It's tough going up against somebody that's really beloved and has such a loyal audience.

I think with David, yeah, it would piss me off when I read comments. But also that's just like I got to understand like this kid had a massive fan base. The vlogs were entertaining, you know, like they were. Sure. They were fun to watch, you know. But Snapchat giving him a brand deal after everything, the stuff with the girls, underage drinking and stuff with you and the excavator. Like how come Snapchat's like, oh, here's a million dollars. Like you're totally fine.

Ask Snapchat. That's why I told them I don't want your blood money. Well, that's why I wondered what your thoughts on it were because it's actually crazy. I think that...

I just never felt right doing Snapchat. Like, I was... I never... Like, I'm not passionate to make something that's going to disappear in a day one. You know, like, it's not content I was proud of. It's not, like, a podcast that's going to help people or be funny or, like, a clip that'll live on. Like, sometimes I could just say a random thing that will be, like, a clip that, you know, is, like, you know, forever. People, like, always go back and laugh at it. Right. But I just, like...

It just felt like you have to exploit a woman at the end for your clickbait. And I never liked doing that. And it's all kids on the app. Snapchat's so gross. I hate them. It's all kids seeing Karina's ass and tits. Crazy. It's David posting these wild photos. How are you going to exploit...

your girlfriend or wife yeah for like a little extra clicks and adsense from snapchat it just it never it always felt a little like 30 scummy men doing it's weird like if it's karina posting it for herself but a day it's posting karina it's like weird to me like yeah like karina all day do that you know like right you know you're only young and and good looking for so long milk that money while you can you know um

It's not like David could take his shirt off and put up a thirst strap. You know, he don't even take his clothes off when he has sex. He puts his penis through the hole in his underwear. You don't know that he has sex. True. I feel like he doesn't. I feel like he said that like he's kind of asexual. I don't know. I'm not talking about sexuality. That was when he was with Liza. He would just, he was, he wouldn't take off his shirt. Oh. Because he's like. Insecure about it. Yeah. You know what I mean? And then he would put his peepee through the hole in his underwear. A lot of information about that. What are your thoughts? I mean, it's fine.

I saw him recently, like paparazzi video, and I used to have a crush on him. He used to be my number one crush. Really? He looks good again, I have to say. He looks kind of, I was like, oh, it brought me back for a second. But I'm stronger. I'm stronger now. I'm not going to go there. Let's hope. I feel like one day David's going to offer you a job. Good thing he doesn't have a mic. Good thing he doesn't have a mic. I know, he needs a mic, because I was like, I'll let everyone hear that. He looks good? He needs to go to Turkey and get a hair surgery already. Well, he's close. What are you doing with that money? Yeah.

But he's looking a little bit... So is he going to keep the hat on and the shirt and put his dick through the hole in his underwear while he has sex with you, Oscar? Is that what you want? Me 2019, yes. I would have done that. Insane, right? I don't think it's that bad. Just take the underwear off. No, of all things David's done, that's the least problematic probably. I think that's okay if he wants to do that. I don't know. I think that's the worst. I think that's the weirdest. I know a lot of guys that have sex with their shirt on. You know the hole in men's underwear? Yes.

Like nobody uses that. To pee. People pull their pants. They pull their pants down. And if you're standing peeing up, you're not pulling your – we just had a discussion about this on Hot Topics. You don't pull your whole pants down to pee. No, I don't do that. You have a hole. I'm not six years old. Okay. So you have a hole to pee. No, I pull my underwear. Oh, really? Yeah, I unzip and then I pull my underwear down. Oh.

I hate talking about penises. They're so gross. Yeah. Well, it's just a rare case because I never heard of anybody doing that but him. Okay. Well, thanks for spilling. Tana, she's not here because she's... Why aren't you in Mexico right now? I forgot to do a birthday post for her. How? How did you forget? She was reposting everybody. Like, even if you forgot it was her birthday, that's so bad. I've just been...

I'm going away this weekend, so I've literally been working so much for the past three days that I have to overshoot. I've been doing three podcasts a day. George and I just did a pod swap like we're doing today. I saw. I don't want to ask people to do podcasts, so I'll offer like, hey, you want to do trade-off? That's so funny. Because I feel better doing that, like offering something than just asking. I think when you have podcasts, it's good to do a pod swap.

- Yeah. - That makes sense. - Yeah, yeah. - I love doing them. I love doing this. That's why I'm saying I would have come to you. 'Cause I love doing, I did with canceled. She was here and then like immediately followed her. - Well, let's go after her. Hop in the car. - Well, I don't know what day it is, but I guess I could. I could if you want me to, but now you're still here. - No, they brought all their shoes.

They packed up. Like, we have all our gear here. No, we don't. I like that area. You saw my billboard from your house. Yeah. I heard you talk about your electrician has a billboard. Yeah, that was dope. And you know where it was? Right above the Starbucks. I know. Where we had. That was actually so funny because it wasn't my billboard. It was, like, for a makeup company. And I was like, how funny that's right there. Yeah, yeah. It's, life's crazy. Yeah. I was like, oh, I love that. Okay, back to Tana, though. Okay, so you were saying, like, you, like, you

You come for the people who disrespect women, right? Okay, so how come you don't defend Tana when it comes to her issues, like when she has a problem with guys online, like the Cody Ko situation? You're pretty silent about it. What do you mean? I did a whole segment on it. Oh, you talked about it? I missed it. How? Can you tell our audience? I know. I don't know. I did a bit where... Like a comedy bit? Yeah, because I like to make light of situations even when they're dark and they're traumatic. I mean, this is a pretty dark one. Okay. Yeah, yeah. What was the bit? I've...

Tana's like my best friend, guy, girl, whatever. She's up there in the top three in my like best friends, you know? And, you know, not strictly non-platonic, just best friends. It's good to, like, I've never had a woman friend that I could like talk to about stuff. So she told me how she feels about the situation and she's not like so traumatized by it because she's even said things like, yeah, I liked him, which doesn't make it okay. Okay.

She said these things to me off camera where she's like no like don't like go attack in somebody like it's it's fine like I Know now when I'm that I'm 26 that I was taking advantage of at that age Yeah, but I was also doing it with a lot of other people, you know and that thing on stage saying that Bringing that up like she didn't mean to or whatever like she just gets wild on stage at the shows Yeah, so she brought something back up and

And yeah, it's bad. I would never, I've never had sex with a 17 year old in my life. Yeah. Even when I was 17, I liked older girls. And for the record, 17 year olds can't give consent. That's the whole reason it's statutory because they can't consent. They can't want it. No, it's a, it's a for sure statutory. Yeah. Yeah. Um, so what I did was because I liked the joke and I have a very dark sense of humor. I, you know how I did that Jake Paul surprising Cody Coe with his, uh, like, cause he's a

because he was talking all that. I didn't see this. You collab with Cody Co. It gets the plot thickens. I didn't know that. No, I got canceled for it. I did a terrible thing. Wait, what? Yeah, I was, this is before the Tana stuff came out. This is like vlog squad. I was coming up. My ego is through the roof. I felt untouchable. What did you do? I felt like I could do anything. I had Cody Co. do a barbershop episode and,

He came in super respectful. It was like we were both like fans of each other's work because we're kind of like in the same genre, I guess. You know, like just talking on people, guys that are like whatever. So I had him come on the show and we had a really funny episode. But I wanted to because at the time, those commentary YouTubers, I didn't really get like I.

I was like, why are you making content that's going to hurt people? You know? Like, I would rather bring somebody in to my barbershop show and insult them to their face. Right. You know? So they could show that they could laugh off the joke. And then it's like the Eminem effect where, like, you go out there and you're like, yeah, I'm white. Yeah, I live in a trailer with my mom. You know? Yeah. You can take all those jokes or you take them back from the internet. Okay, I love it. So that's my goal for the barbershop show. So I didn't always, like...

I figured that out kind of over time that that's what I was trying to do with people. And at the time, Cody was making a lot of commentary videos on Lele Pons that were like dissecting her videos. And, you know, she was like a teenage girl. And yeah, her videos were cringe, but she's like...

speaks like different languages. She's bilingual. Like it's her second language doing English. And her comedy is funny to people in Brazil or whatever. But like, I get it. You know, the videos were funny. Even like I would even watch and Lele was my friend. And Lele told me one time she was like, like, I'm so depressed. Like this is like these videos are just everybody's commenting now. I'm Latina. I'm Latina. And like she was telling me that I was really getting to her, which it's scary. I was like,

damn, like that sucks. Like maybe I could do something to help. Would you be down to just come in to the barbershop when I'm cutting his hair? So I had Cody with shaving cream all over his face and a razor blade to his throat. Oh my God, Jesus. And...

Lele was supposed to come in, but she backed out last minute. Oh, that's probably good. So there was another person that was also being made fun of by Cody that was down to show up. And he was my second choice. It was Jake Paul. And this is right when Jake was into boxing training. So he was like a hothead. And it was a bad call. Now looking back, like I realized that...

I had put somebody in danger in my videos because when Jake came in, like I thought Jake, Jake's a silly guy. Like he's funny. And you know, he's like, even at press conferences, he doesn't like they do the face off. He doesn't hit people and stuff like he has self-control and,

But he came in and Cody was like, oh, what's up? Like thought it was gonna be a bit and he wouldn't shake his hand So I was like, oh This is not a bit anymore. Like this is him pressing him. Its attention was high. I was like looking at my Razor blades and tools and knives because Jake's a big boy Like had to stab him or something to take him out, you know But we also had like a bunch of people in the room that we wouldn't know let Cody get hurt but

That's scary. Yeah. Yikes. I had plenty of people that, like Jake, we could have taken him out. I don't want to say, oh, I would have taken him out myself. I don't know. Yeah, that might be hard to take him down, especially in that era. And now he's a fucking...

- Is he? I haven't seen him lately. - He's 230 pounds. He's gonna fight Mike Tyson. - So am I. I could take him then. We're in the same weight class. - No, you're-- - I am! I just weighed myself this morning, 227. I was 263 when I gave birth. - Oh, well you just gave birth. - Well still, I mean, I started at 230. I wasn't like a-- - Do you wanna get down to-- - I'm doing 163 and then I'll get a Tesla truck for myself. I also wanna fit my calves into Givenchy boots, so yeah. - You wanna get down to 163? - Mm-hmm. I've lost 37 pounds in four weeks. So I've been doing grapefruit and eggs every day. That's my diet. - Really? That's great.

I just had the working outs hard, but I'm trying. Just do light cardio because that zone one cardio, that's like when your heart rate's around like...

maybe like 110 that's when you burn the most fat so i do high intensity training because i want to be like physically fit and like agile and fast so i get my heart rate up to like 180 as high like i'm dying in my workouts but you don't need to do that i would die literally you could just like do those like one hour of walking a day yes and it's like the perfect amount of cardio for you we do only water too we can do zila we'll be a fitness transformation yeah she

I would do a marathon. They pump Ozempic and they push. I don't, I'm like scared to do Ozempic. Allegedly. I heard that, but I don't, I don't know about it. Yeah. No, that's scary. Well, so. It's just weird that they get in shape for the video and then they all gain it back after. I mean, that's probably, yeah. I don't know. I've been the same my whole life, you know? I don't want to put people down. No Ozempic here. I'm scared to use it. But, um, so what happened then with that? Could Cody Coe ever talk to you again? No.

Um, so after that, I felt terrible because this whole audience is putting snake emojis in my comments. They're like, you've been endangered. Are like beloved Cody co. And I did like, that was wrong when I did, you know, and I realized it and I, I haven't really screwed up much online. Uh,

Like ever since I started making a name for myself on the internet, I realized like I need to get sober. I was scared to even have sex with girls because like I just came out of a relationship and I just didn't really even want to. And I was just like so scared that I could hook up with a girl and then she could say that I did some weird shit. Or just who knows. Like I just, I went like celibate and sober for like a good year or two when I first got into the vlog squad. Oh.

Oh, okay. Yeah, because I was like, holy shit. I'm actually like having an opportunity here to achieve my dreams. I don't want to fuck this up. And if I'm drinking still, I was wild when I drank. I have some crazy stories that we could get into on our third episode of Just Trish. We do have to go. Yeah. But yeah, so I felt real bad that I screwed up. So I really wanted to apologize to him. But I knew nothing about the Tana situation because she was like very –

uh like sometimes she would say she was 18 and then sometimes she would say like that thing slipped out on on stage but it was like a rumor going around and i didn't i didn't know much about it so um once i found out i said something on the show i was like you know you cut people off for me um so like i feel like now you know i gotta cut them off for you

And she didn't like care really. Yeah, she's that girl. But like you should care for her. Yeah, I care for her. I was like you're one of my best friends. Like you've done things that I didn't even ask you for. Like you just had my back. So, you know, like I don't think it's right hooking up with an underage girl obviously, you know. So – but then I did a bit where I was like –

So I wanted you to talk to someone. So I have somebody and she was like, oh, you're not going to have him call in like Bryce Hall, right? And I was like, no. Did you have Bryce Hall call in with her? Yeah. This is why we're not doing live calls. I was like, can they do live calls? I'm like, no. Absolutely not.

absolutely not. This is for this reason. I fought it out, but Tana won. I knew Tana could hold her own in that argument, you know, because Bryce said that they're not really friends. They're mutuals or whatever. It's like such a stupid thing to say. Yeah. And I knew Tana would win that argument. She's tougher than me for sure. Yeah. She's, she's sharp. She doesn't care. And when she's like on it, she will crush people in an argument. You know, you too, like, like debating, arguing, you always win. I just don't like to anymore. I'm just like, ah, whatever. Like,

whatever. But you got it in you. You're like a retired fighter. For sure. You know. I'm the Mike Tyson to the Jake Paul, to her Jake Paul. Yeah. But you might come out of retirement and have to fight a young Tana. Yeah. You know? No, I don't know if I can fight Tana. I can fight Jake. No, I don't mean like physical. I mean like a debate. Right. We'd be good. Well, that's why we're a team together. We're on the same side. I love that. I love that you guys are on the same team. Always. And we are on the same team too now. Oh, I don't know. I don't

I don't stand by everything, but... Yeah. I've always been team Tana, even in the Vlog Squad days. I've always been team Tana. Even when they try to get her to do that weird threesome stuff, that's when I was like, that's when they kicked me out, because I was like, this is so f***ing sick. I've always been Tana. Yeah, I hated those sex bits. Yeah, and she did too, and I was like, this is... And this was off camera. I was like, she's actually uncomfortable, and this is actually cringey, so I just, like, pretended to sleep, because I'm like, this is so awkward. Yeah. And I said the next day, I'm like, y'all are, like, sick, and they still are. Anyways, okay. But...

So you cut Cody off. So I know I was setting up a bit by like saying all that stuff. Yeah. And I was like, okay, so now I'm going to have somebody call in. I want you to talk to somebody. And she was like, you're not going to have Cody Cole call in. And I was like, I'm not going to have him call in.

come on in. And it's like, it's such a sick bit. We're not on the same team. I'd be like, you did that to me as your friend. Surprising with her weird David's up like surprise. Come on. But it was my sweet little Steven that had hadn't been on the show for six months. And he came in and just his, his baby face is like wholesome. Like it was just such a nice moment for him to come back. And I like that shock value. Like, you know, what the

He's going to surprise her with her, you know, like that's such a sick thing. But Tana and I have sick senses of humor. Yeah, I get it. Like I know how far I could push it with her. Yeah. And she can also call me Cyclops or whatever. Like I don't take any, like I can take jokes, you know. Yeah, it's your relationship. She says horrible shit.

Yeah, but she's like a girl doing it to a guy. I think you need to like stand up for her a little more as her guy friend. I do. It's a double standard. I do. You don't know what I do off camera. I know I don't. That's why you got to do more on camera. You know when people are threatened and like tracked down that were just a little mean to Dana? Yeah. No, I don't. I don't know. Wait, what? Like you track people down?

You shouldn't do that. Yeah, I will hurt somebody for her. Don't go to jail again or anything like that. I just got all my felonies expunged. I have free ones to sacrifice. So if I get like one little assault charge on somebody that was mean to Tana, who cares? It's a night in jail. I got money. I'll bail out. Okay. You know? Yeah. But I got her back. Trust me. But you should just do that more publicly, I think.

I do it publicly. Because even if she doesn't care about the situation, she's like, whatever, I laugh it off. She doesn't want an apology from Cody. I think it's just more of you defending her honor. Yeah, I do it publicly and I do it behind the scenes. There's only so much you see of us, but trust me, we're real friends. I love her. I will make that birthday post, but I was waiting. You didn't make the birthday post, yeah. No, I will on the drive home, but there was this one surprise that I wanted to have ready at the end of it. I didn't have ready, and it's this right here.

Oh my gosh, did you guys announce it? Nope. Oh my gosh, what's it called? Should I announce it here? Can you? That's pink if it's the aesthetic. Can you please? Yeah, you'll get the first PR box. Okay.

So we have a collaboration dry shampoo that we worked on together. And she picked the scent. I have the lab, so we made it ourselves. So cool. And we worked on the design together. We're working on all these campaigns and photo shoot ideas. Did you already do it or not yet, the campaigns? No, so it just got...

made. When do you think it's going to hit? We fill them here in LA. They're getting filled as we speak. When does it drop? We're making a lot. It'll be ready probably in a month. I'm just excited for that. I also have another product. Do you have it with you? No.

I don't have that with me yet. Congratulations. It's getting filled. Come back with her when it comes out. It'll be so much fun. I would love to. Yeah. But here, I don't know if I ever gave you my products. No, I don't think so. Did we get them? No. From Moses and stuff. There's men's. Oh, yeah. Cute. So there's a pink sample deodorant in there because I want to do it. That's so cute.

Well, that's not the finished packaging. It's just how they send the scent. I just love it in the pink, though. I don't even know if I can show that lab coat on there. Okay, okay, okay. Well, we can blur it. But smell it. See what you think. Is this deodorant? Yeah, I want your opinion on it because... Is it strong? It's natural ingredients. It's no harmful. No aluminum. It's not too strong of a scent. I like it. Yeah, do you actually? Let's get the natural. Be honest, because it's a sample. We could still work on it. Yeah, it's really fresh. I think either it was you or Oscar or someone you were with, they smell so clean. Is it you that has it?

someone has like a really clean scent. It's probably me. When I came in, I was like, ooh, it smells really clean in here. Yeah. Oh, yeah, that's me. It smells good. This actually does smell really good. Your products are good because I think you did give some hair to him last time and it was actually really good smelling. Yeah, thank you. Your products are amazing. Thank you. Are these on Amazon, the ones you have in here? Those are all on Amazon. Yeah. Some of them are sold out. That's our older deodorant. Yeah. It's all like a mirror chrome. Wee! That's a great thing. Do you use it as antiperspirant?

It's not, we don't have the harmful chemicals in it because I wanted to like. No, that's good. That's better. There's different markets and I wanted my stuff to be a little more high end. How much is it retail?

It's $25 each product. This smells good. This smells like a fresh shower. Do you like that better? Because the other one is supposed to be more women's, catered to women. I wear Dry Idea, which is kind of like a men's deodorant, so I feel like I like that more masculine fresh scent. That one's just a bit watery, and it's so natural. It's charcoal-based, so it's like a super healthy deodorant, and it's a good one.

When people transition from like a poisonous, toxic Axe body spray or some shit that gives you cancer or Old Spice, like they... Did they drop you? They'll try that. Yeah, that's why I have it. Full disclosure. No, I'm just kidding.

No, they actually do smell bad. I hate like Axe Body Spray. Yeah, it's got aluminum. It has all these harmful chemicals in it. I feel like now people are caring more about what they're putting in their body and putting on their body because whatever you put on your body seeps into your pores, goes into your bloodstream. So, you know, it's important. Like I never thought I would care that much about what type of deodorant I use, but now that I'm educated on it, I know that I don't want to be putting harmful ingredients in. Like Jake Paul just put out a deodorant. Ah, yes. And I'm sure it's going to crush.

But it's at a lower price point and it has aluminum in it and it has those like kids don't give a fuck. They'll just buy it and I'm sure it's going to make millions of dollars. But it's just a different market. It's in Walmart. Which I love Walmart. But do you ever get a little bit like maybe he copied me on this? No. I don't think so. Because no one else has done men's grooming influencers. Yeah, but those – it's also like –

You know, he's into, I don't know, maybe it was influence. That's fine if it was. I don't mind. You don't mind if someone copies. I don't mind it either. I copy everybody. So if someone copies me, I'm like, yeah. Yeah. I'm not the first person to make a deodorant. Well, the first influencer probably. Maybe. Yeah. Yeah. That's a good point. So you are the first. Yeah. Hell yeah. I'm the first and everybody else copied me.

I thought so because I was on my list to ask you about the Jake Paul because I was like, that's interesting. I always just think of you when it comes to that kind of stuff because you are a barber after all. Yeah. But now I'm getting into the women's stuff because I got to make sure I got the girlies covered too. I love that for you. I'm excited. I'm really excited for this dry shampoo because it's really good. And women love dry shampoo. And for Tana. Tans like it, yeah. She's like perfect because. Yeah.

She's like, sometimes she won't shower. Not like... Yeah, you don't wash your hair. When you're blonde, you can't wash your hair for two weeks. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I don't mean to say it like she's like a dirty... No, she smells amazing. Yeah. But I don't wash my hair for like a couple weeks. Yeah, so you use dry shampoo, right? I use dry shampoo or I do a wig or something like that. Oh, you're going to love it. I'm going to send you a special personalized PR box that's going to have like rhinestones on it and stuff. Yeah, when you have it out, come back. Because that's kind of everything. And Tana doesn't endorse a lot of stuff. She doesn't have a lot of her own products. So when she puts something out, people love it.

Yeah, yeah. And obviously people love you. You guys have like two different audiences. Clearly I'm like not your audience, but I feel like with that collab, you'd like get both of your audience together. You know what I mean? And I also just started this watch company. Wait, what? I would just look at that. What does that mean? God, you're like an entrepreneur over here. I'll get you one, Moses. That's nice. These are affordable designer watches. It's called Aura. It looks bouge. It's supposed to be like, you know how watches like this would cost 250 grand? Yeah.

This one is, I believe, $350,000. So it's like affordable for people. And I think like if you're spending $250,000 on a watch, you're insecure. You know, like you got you're trying to compensate for something like you're trying to get women from showing off money.

When you are cool, you don't need that. So we wanted to make a product that is affordable for people and looks dope. It looks dope. What does it look like? What is it called? Richard Milliman? Is that the watch? Patek Philippe? Yeah. Someone got robbed in Beverly Hills with a half a million dollar watch. Another thing, like somebody pulls up with a gun and says, give me that watch. I don't give a f***. Take it. 300 bucks. My life's worth more than that. 250 grand, I would be like, shoot me, motherfucker.

You could probably take it too. You know what I mean? What? A bullet? Yeah. For sure. Alex Warren. Do you know him? He got shot and he has a bullet in his lung. Alex Warren? Yeah. He just got married. Dumbass copycat? Yeah.

No, he don't copy him anymore. He sounds just like David, doesn't he? I like him. I like him a lot. I don't know him, but I like his music. Yeah, I like him too. He came and did my show. He's a real sweet kid. He's a little like David, but he didn't hit me with a crane, so I like him better than David. He seems nicer. I don't think he vlogs or anything anymore. He's never injured any of his friends, I don't think, so props to him. Yeah, that's always good. Good for Alex. Just him. He just got shot by his friend's dad.

Oh, recently? A couple years ago, I think. Damn. Maybe five years ago. Yeah. I wonder what caliber bullet it was. He talked about it recently. I just saw it on TikTok. I don't know. He thought it was unloaded. And he's just like, run. I'll pretend to shoot you. And then he shot him. Crazy. Oh, yeah? And then the dad ended up marrying them this past week. And the one who shot him ended up marrying them. What the fuck? Crazy story. Shout out to Alex Warren. Good kid. Is he? I like him. I really like him. I just don't know him. I like his school. Yeah, yeah, yeah. He's both sceneways. When are you getting married? Because he recently got married.

You never answered my commitment issues question and we'll wrap it up. But like what's happening? Like you do have commitment issues. Are you scared or you just don't want it? I'll be completely honest with you about this. The state of mind I'm in right now and the things I'm trying to do to set myself up or my family in the future, it is so time consuming right now. And not to say like, oh, I'm only 34. I'm not ready for a relationship like those memes. It's young, but yeah. Yeah. I know what you mean. But like –

I'm fucked up in the head right now. Like, I have a lot of bad days. Like, I won't shoot on some days because I'm just, like, having a bad day. Like, my thoughts are all fucked up. So it kind of sucks to bring a person into my life right now. Like, I want to get back to myself. And I know it's been four years. I feel like every year I get a little closer to my old self. But, yeah, like...

I feel like I'm still at 30, like, at that age when the accident happened. I got stunted. I got stunted, yeah. It happens when people have traumatic experiences. You kind of, like, stop at that age. You know what I mean? Yeah. So I'm just, like, kind of trying to... Like, it's still just, like, I have so many demons in my head that, like, I just... I don't know. I need somebody that really can...

either be like my therapist basically but i don't want my like girl to be i want to be taking her out to nice dinners and stuff and vacations and you know but who knows stuff like that just happens when you find the one you don't you can't really plan for it you know but at least you know like you're like not in that space yeah like you said sometimes i come along and you're like i wasn't even looking i wasn't even ready and then here it is but you like to be in love

Yeah, of course. Yeah. I've been in a three-year relationship with, you know, that girl, Sierra. I love her. Yeah. She was great. Such a sweet girl.

Confident, too. Performer. Like, you know? Yeah. I just love a powerful woman. Yeah. I think there's plenty out there for you, for sure. Yeah. Yeah. So, Miley, if you're watching, open my DM. Miley would be a great one for you. Yeah. I think she could help heal you. I think she has, like, family issues going on. Yeah. I could probably help heal her, too, in ways. You know? Yeah. Put it out there. I hope she watches this whole episode in full and is like, wow. You know? You never know. I'm going to give this brain damage dummy a shot. Yeah.

I bet she does say that too. You know, that's kind of everything. I have faith for you and Miley. That could totally work out. At first I was like, okay, that's delusional, whatever. But I was like, no. If it's not even to be on your podcast, if it's just a date, that's actually like a realistic goal, I think, for you. Yeah. I would keep it private behind the scenes. Really? Because paparazzi photos with us walking around New York City. Oh, okay. So you want the paparazzi photos, but you wouldn't post them.

I wouldn't talk about our relationship because I feel like when I put things out there, people start attacking the girl I'm dating. And it makes it so difficult to actually have a real relationship. You know, people then they're people like talking on Reddit and the girl could say she doesn't read it. But then like she's where our relationship is getting critiqued by these strangers. And then she's looking into it and like they're not used to our lifestyle to where like we're numb to that.

So it's a lot. You really thought it out. It's a fully thought out like plan. I like that though. There was an influencer that dated Doja Cat. Who's that? Isn't that an influencer? I like her too. There's like some just like influencer like you. Even though she's like nuts and like does this crazy shit. Like I would date Doja Cat too. There was an influencer just like you that's dating her now. Really? What's his name? Right? What's his name? Yeah.

There you go. I'm problematic. I'm an influencer. It could totally be you and Miley at the Met Gala next year. Or Doja. Then David probably would really be like, then at that point you won everything. Like it doesn't even matter where the lawsuit happens. He's like, ah, you know. Success is the best revenge. Yeah. Oh my God. I kind of live for that. Yeah. Okay. Well, I feel like that's, I feel like there was more questions to ask, but I mean, I guess we can go. One of the gay things. Also, Miley has a boyfriend, so. Oh. But. Mom. 100% gay will work out. Oscar, no. Okay.

Oscar, no over here. We're in a rain on my parade, Oscar. Miley has a boyfriend. Is this public knowledge? How did we not know this? He went with her to the Grammys. Oh, shit. Well, hopefully it doesn't work out. Isn't there a saying, yeah, like, don't let having a boyfriend stop you from finding your husband or something, right? No.

Just because there's a goalie doesn't mean you can't score. Yeah, there you go. See, I'm turning into Jeff, just problematic and just super straight. No, respectfully, they have a girlfriend, so we'll find someone else for you. Yeah, yeah. Okay, so it was our gay pride episode, which wasn't that much of a gay pride. But you said you were 12% gay based on a test. Do you believe that you are? You know, I never, like...

I fantasized about having sex with a man, but I could look at a man like Brad Pitt in Fight Club. He was in great shape, handsome. I don't know. I could see a man and be like, damn, that's an attractive man. But you said, I believe it was a tweet, that you said you miss...

You think about the Roman days when guys would just hook up with each other, that you missed that. How often do you think about that? I just say shit. I don't know. Are you sure? I think back then...

You know, that'd be cool if it was just like there was no gay and straight or like bi. Like it's just people are in like a tent and everybody's doing wild. You know? Yeah. There doesn't have to be gay and bi and straight in your world. You know what I mean? No one has to label themselves. So that's what I miss about the Roman times. Do I want to be in that tent getting pegged and, you know, whatever, all this stuff? You don't know. Who knows? I wasn't around back then. You know?

But no, I think just the 12% is like that I can see a man and be like, that's a good looking man. And also I cut hair. So I'm like trying to make men look the best of their abilities. You know, like I feel like that's a little gay, you know? Yeah. Like I'm like looking at this guy. Wait, what? A little gay? Yeah.

That's a little gay? Being a barber, yeah. I don't know if that's gay. I got my hands all up on a man. I don't mind touching them and their hair and stuff. Even if I cut hair and I take a lunch break, if I got a little hair on my hands, sometimes I'll eat a sandwich and it's like I'm eating a man's hair. And don't bother me. Okay. You know? Oh, okay. There is something is like... I'm gay. I'm gay.

It is crazy. Like hairdressers, like they do rub up on you so much because they're right behind you, right? Like anyone, like styling my hair, washing your hair. They like literally rub on you. So if you're doing it with guys, you know. And I don't even think twice about it. It's just second nature to me. I'll just rub up all on a man's head and feel, you know, normal. In your episode with Tana, you said you were confused when a guy wanted to watch a movie and cuddle. Oh, that was James Charles. Yeah. Oh. What were you confused about?

That he knows I'm a straight man and still asked me to come do that. Oh, interesting. But in his defense, I did watch the collab with you guys. And you were down to do a full body massage. You were down to get a full body massage oil. Yeah, I joke around. Maybe he didn't get the joke. Because I could understand it from his perspective. Maybe he thought it was...

Don't you see how you can be misconstrued as flirting? Shoot me. I'm sorry. I'm just saying. Look, I did what I had to do. You said you knew your restraint, but. I did what I had to do to make it in this business and in this town, you know? Oh, my God. This is why I feel bad for James Charles, and I never feel bad for James Charles. I'm like, well, damn, I'd be confused, too. Whatever. We hooked up. No, I'm kidding. God. God.

hooked up with James Charles. I feel bad for James in that sense. He probably gets a lot of people that flirt and then I would be confused too if someone's like, do you want to do a full body massage? I'd be like, I guess, okay. I am clearly a straightie. I don't know if that's clear. I really don't because you say a lot like, oh, that's gay or whatever. Sometimes that's a little bit hiding something. Do you know what I mean? Like a straight guy will try to hide

Nothing you are. Every one of my friends and employees and people I surround myself with are either gay or lesbian or bisexual. Love. We need more lesbians over here. Your team's all straight. That's not true, Oscar. Well, besides him. Moses is not. Moses is fluid. The photographer that was here before that looked like Lenny Kravitz was straight probably. How do you know? You don't know that? Actually, I don't know. You don't know.

Moses is fluid. Everyone's fluid. We don't identify as anything around here. Oh, yeah? For real? He's a fluid person. Damn. He doesn't believe in labels either. That's cool. So, anyways. Yeah. All right. So, there's that. That's the way to wrap it up. All right. Should we do Jeff FM or do you want to go? Yeah, we're about to wrap it up. You have to tell us your favorite gay.

Favorite gay... I love Tim Dillon. He's so funny. He's coming on Friday. Really? Yeah, he's coming on this week. He's probably my favorite gay just because he's such a sick f***. His humor is so good. Yeah, he's funny. I love him. When you first see him...

Like, you wouldn't even think he's gay, you know? But he is super gay. I don't think you can tell someone's gay by looking at them. You can. Like, if I look at Oscar, I'm like... Oh, my God. I don't think you can just tell. Tim Dillon is gay. Some people you can tell, but Tim Dillon, you would never guess. And then he's like...

You know, starts talking about, like, hooking up with men, and I'm like, oh, shit. All right. Cool. You know? Yeah. He's somebody I, like, I like to have comedians that I am inspired by, people who are actually funny, not like Andrew Schultz and that, like, flagrant podcast where it's just a bunch of flippant.

And people that just are not funny and they just, you know, talk about nothing. I know. There's too many of those. Like Tim Dillon, he can do a podcast by himself and just be hilarious. He's so funny. And I can watch his whole episode and yeah. I love that he's your favorite gay. He's my favorite gay too. Mainly because he's coming on soon. And I was shocked because I'm like, that's not a crossover I would expect, but he was. I might have more favorite gays. Think of some more favorite gays out there. That's it. Give me some. Uh.

Give me some. Name one more gay person. Just name a gay person. Just some more. Oh, you know who's my least favorite gay? Oh, no. It becomes a hate crime. No. I don't know.

Who's American Beauty? Oh, Kevin Spacey. Kevin Spacey. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Because he abused his power to have sex with men that were trying to become actors. So I don't like that. Right. T. That's T right there. Yeah. Cool. Okay. Just say gay rights. Gay rights.

I don't know what that means. I don't want to do it. I don't know what you did. I did it and I shouldn't. This is a problem. I just follow whatever you do. Thumbnail. I don't know what that means. I feel like I should not do that. I apologize. All right. Congrats for being here. I'm going to Tinky Winky Burger. That's a good present.

I'm just saying that to people on my show. Yeah, congrats. You're welcome for coming on my show. You won the tinky-winky purse is what I was saying. Congrats. That's yours. This is a great gift. You're welcome. Thank you so much. You guys, check out Jeff FM. I'm going to be on it. I like to get mine out first. Mine will go up tomorrow. And I don't think you're going to post yours tomorrow. I know how you act. And I know you're a fan.

and strategy in this game, you wouldn't be where you're at if you weren't a little. You can post your smart bites that you just posted an episode. So I'm like, that's not going to happen. Of course, you know the game. You know the game. I got to get it first. Maybe I'll do two this week. Yeah. Okay. Maybe we'll be live. You got to go on your trip. That's true. And I wanted to, yeah, I needed to stack. It's fine. When I'm on the family vacation, I'll drop the Trisha Paytas juicy episode where we talk all the dumb people and start a bunch of beef so I could be with my family and I'll be on the phone. Yeah.

Come meet me at the Jersey Shore. Come at me, bro. Wow. Like Ronnie. Come at me, bro. You have so many pop culture references and I love it. Yeah? You're just one full... Who would have thought this duo? I know. I kind of love it. Not the duo, but I love that you know so many pop culture things. I think we're a little too different, but I like the Tana connection. What do you mean? I think we just see things a lot differently, but we can connect. Opposites attract. Right. I don't think we're that opposite, though. You think I have that much in common with Tana?

Yeah, I think you guys have a lot in common. No, we're opposites. Actually, no, we're the same. She's the female version of me. Yeah, I think there's two different sides. You know, she has different sides. Plastic surgery, we both have, you know, like we're both up. Yeah, right. Hers is more choice. Hers is my choice. You're not so much. Yeah, but still. I love her surgery. You know, we still got a bunch of plastic in our faces and we love talking shit. We love...

Our audiences. Let's just end it on that. We love our audiences because they keep us going. And the Jeff and Tana dry shampoo coming soon. Come back with her for that. I think that's fun. Happy birthday, Tana. I'll say it on behalf of Jeff since he didn't say it. But I did. I will post. I just was waiting for that edit of the dry shampoo. So that is going to be like the end of the slide. Okay, that's cute. I like that.

I like that. So I guess tomorrow's when we announce that. Well, I guess I'll do the birthday post tomorrow. Yeah, you should probably let her know. That's more my style. I sent her a gift to her hotel. Wow, that's really impressive. I gave her a gift in person last week for her. Well, I wasn't invited to Cabo. You could have done it. Oh, you weren't? No. And you know why, probably? I have no idea. Because she probably don't want sober Jeff around ruining the party. I don't think that's it. Yeah. I think it's just... She probably just went with like... The young ones, the 20-year-olds.

I'm done with this show. You're welcome for me coming on. Bye guys.