Jake Webber on His Past Beef With Trish & Getting Asked About Tarayummy...
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I know we always talk about it, but when we met in Reality House, we had no interaction, like zero interaction the whole time, except you voting me constantly out every single time. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. And there's like maybe four clips of you being like, Trisha, Trisha. That version of me, I don't even recognize her. Well, I feel like all my...

crushes are always guys because it's the idea of like I like want to be them like I was always like oh my god like I want to like be like Justin Bieber would you ever put another relationship online like you and Tara? her name is Trish she's got the fish and all the gossips filthy rich pretty and pink hot topic queen and says what everybody thinks she's just Trish

Hey guys, welcome back to the Just Trish Podcast. Today we have a returning guest. Hello. He's a man, but we love him because he is fighting toxic masculinity every single day. One day at a time. Yeah. We love to see. Okay.

So iconic with the – oh, you actually have a drink in there. Yeah. I thought it was just for the aesthetic. It's right. This is everything. It's so good. I was so excited. So we did a collab on your channel, which is like – it's so old school. Like what you do on your channel is just like eating in your car and it's like the funnest thing in the whole world. I wish more people would do it. So I used to –

Try to think of different videos every single week and it was so exhausting and I didn't really want to do them. And then I realized like, wait, I just like eating fun foods and shopping and that's pretty much all I do now. Awesome.

It is exhausting.

It is exhausting, but I feel like most people have to do that to provide the quality content. You're lucky that you get a million people watching you literally just try energy drinks. I know, right? It's crazy. I'm super thankful for that. When we got together, you were saying, you're like, I'm going to cosplay you. And I was like, wait, I don't think anyone's ever even attempted that. And this is so good. I had to rush so hard because we filmed together a couple days ago when I told her that. And I was like, I have to stick to my word. Wait, that's so funny.

So nice, too, because it was only, like, literally, like, a day and a half in between. So when did you go? I went yesterday. Oh, my gosh. Did you go by yourself? With a friend. Yeah. Okay. I love it. Yeah. And I didn't realize how there's, like, no pink anywhere. Wait, what do you mean? Like, shop? Oh, because it's, like, fall season now. And I would, yeah, if I would find a hoodie or pants, then there wouldn't be a set. Where did you get this one? I got it from Ross because I realized Ross is, like, somewhere that just has, like,

a mixture of everything. I was like, this is the best bet. Wait, Ross is so good actually though. Like they always have like actual juicy couture stuff. Like they have nice things there. Do you shop there often? Not too often. I usually shop on Depop.

Oh, is that like a Poshmark? Is that like where people resell their stuff? Yeah, yeah, yeah. Wait, really? Yeah, because I like my stuff like really like worn into. Yeah, and like then you don't dress like everyone else too. Yeah, and I like chop up a lot of clothes. So like I feel bad when I like chop up something new. What do you mean chop up? Like cut off the sleeves or something? I always – for like my style, I always chop off –

The collar, the sleeves, and the – Like the seams. Just where the seams are, I always cut – like I cut the seams off. And then kind of have it like rolled up or something like that. Yeah. I like it. I have your merch on today. I know. I love it. I love these. Can I just say I actually like really love these pajama pants. I think they're so soft and comfy. Yeah. I was scared because like we only had one option. Really? Yeah. And I was like, oh, I hope it's good because like I care about how pajama pants feel. Yeah.

Yeah. And, yeah, I like it. They're, like, a weird, like, silky feel. But, like, I love them. It's kind of like a jersey material. But every time I wear these out, because I always wear pajama pants out. Like, not even trying to be like you. I actually wear pajama pants out because I'm just, like, lazy, I guess. And I wear these out a couple of times. And people are like, are those the Beatles? Is it Queen? Beatles. I love that. Like, who do they think it is? And I was like, oh, my God, it's kind of cool. Or it could be, like, Kiss or I don't know. Yeah. It looks very cool. Whose idea were these, the design? That was mine. I made the design. It looks...

Any more merch or this is it?

Just in general or with Johnny? Like Jake merch. I have other merch, yeah. You do? Yeah, I design it all. I'm kind of like the... I have the nerdy aspect, I feel like, amongst my friends. I'm making the thumbnails and stuff like that. All your own thumbnails you do and you edit? Yeah. Oh, yeah. And you said you edit. And I made my friends thumbnails for like a year. Oh, my God. Just for fun or did you charge them? No, no, no. I didn't charge them. Well, it's just because like...

I was so obsessed with the idea of thumbnails. I just kind of nerded out in them and I was just showing them all the little things that I look for and do. And then you taught them how to do it. Yeah. It was fun for me because I like to talk. I didn't want to keep it all in my head. The stuff that I learned, I wanted to talk about it. That's so cool. I wanted to talk about it. Yeah. And you taught yourself? Mm-hmm. You didn't go to school for it or anything like that? Oh, well, I did go to school for...

Um, for film, like about a, probably about a semester, I would say. Wait, you did, did we talk about this last time? I didn't know you went to school. Where'd you go? Uh, it was like a school in Hollywood. Like New York Film Academy or something?

It was called Columbia College, Hollywood. Wait, really? Yeah. But like... I didn't know that. So there's this like... There was like this... So my dad's like... He was in the Air Force and I could get like a year of free college and stay wherever for like the... For his benefits, I guess. And so I was like, oh, I want to move to...

LA get started get on my feet. I'll go to school for the year and then I'll see if I could like make it out there and So I went to school just to be out there Wait, and then did you have to be with you? Like were you living with your parents? You could just go anywhere Um, I think I don't I don't know what it was exactly, but I just know that

If you go to – you just have – I had the opportunity being his son to go to school for a year and have my rent like covered. That is so cool. The Air Force like I guess has a lot of like benefits like that. Yeah, for the family and stuff. Yeah. So you went to film school.

like a film school kind of where you like learning to direct and like that kind of stuff. Yeah. Like a little bit of everything. Wow. Wait, because did you want to make films or it was just like something cool that sounded? Well, I didn't want to go to school in general. And I thought if I, if I was to go to school, I want to at least learn something that I like. Yeah. And I've always been obsessed with, um,

Like, you know, I was like the little kid that had like a camcorder like all the time. Wait, really? When was your first like first video that you filmed? Well, I mean, when it comes to YouTube, maybe like when I was like 14. But I was. Ready? Yeah. Yeah.

Yeah. Oh, wait, wait. You were 14. Yeah. What was it? What was your first video? I was trying like spicy yummy bears. So also a food video from the beginning. Wait, how did you even know to do that? Like who were you watching that you're like, oh, this is what I should do? Or you didn't see anyone do it. You just filmed yourself. I don't know. I never really was too much of a YouTube watcher when I was really young. And you just, so you just were like. Johnny was though. Johnny knows like everything about pop culture. Yeah. No, he really does. He's really like into it because he started really young too. How does it feel?

Without Johnny. Because you guys are kind of more separate these days. Not that you're – you went to a show, obviously. You guys are still friends. But you guys are more like – you doing this solo is like a big thing, I feel. Because you guys were always like Jake and Johnny. And so when we collabed and it was just us, I was like, wait, what? I remember you saying like one time – I don't know if you exactly said this. But like you were interested in maybe like having both of us solo. So I just like remembered that. I was like, oh, let's do it. I'll try. I was so happy because like again, I think like I was so happy to have you guys. But you never know if someone like actually like wants to come back.

or not. I always want everyone to come back, but I never know. So it was cool when you hit me up and I was like, oh, this is like perfect timing for it all. Because I do think you guys are so different. Do you feel...

How do you feel in general without Johnny in your videos? Because he's not in them as much. You have Carrington now. Yeah, yeah. Well, I try to get everyone equally. I like to have all my friends equally in my videos. Johnny's just been kind of busy because he just got a girlfriend. He hasn't had a girlfriend in a long time, so I totally get that. Yeah, yeah. He's like, we're in love now. I love it. I comment. I support it.

for all of it but you guys were just together like you guys were inseparable is it a weird oh yeah yeah true true true yeah it's like a weird adjustment or is it not I don't know I guess I don't have friends so I don't know well we usually film so many videos during the holidays so like we we had a few videos where well I feel like we had a little bit of time where we didn't film too much together but

all the time around the holidays like we're back to back to back like in hallow with halloween we're like so back to back and we're about to be like that for um christmas yeah what are you guys gonna do for christmas a lot of shopping videos like present videos um unboxing videos are you gonna buy tara a house to top your g-wagon a pink house

Oh my gosh. Yeah. I did not think that that would stick with me for so long. But that gets referenced so much. Oh my God. Wait, that's so insane though. You got her a G-Wagon. Did you get the pink interior or did she get that after? I got that for her, but it took like a week or two after I got the car. Oh, that's pretty fast. Did you go to West Coast Customs for it? I'm not sure where. I just typed in like C-

Whatever it's called, like a customization, like seats or whatever. And I was scared it was going to be really expensive, but I think it was like $2,000. Okay, that's not bad for the pink. I thought it was going to be like $15,000. It used to be. I got mine done at Platinum Motorsports and it was $15,000. I had a G-Wagon with pink leather interior and it was like $15,000. That was like a while ago. So I was so curious. I was like, oh. Do you know how that started? No. I don't know. I don't remember where I was, but...

She was just talking about that. She wanted that car and I was like, oh i'll just get you up for a video and she's like No, you won't and then I was joking But then I felt like it was kind of like a challenge in my brain I was like i'm gonna i'm gonna try to make this work. That is wild And then what's the thought process like how long does it take you like I'm gonna make this work How long does it take because you got two days for this outfit? How long does it take to get the g-wagon for a lot longer? It was a long process because I don't usually do too many brand deals, but I was talking to my manager about how um

I think it would be a good video to get a brand deal in. Yeah, yeah, yeah. You're like, let me... So you just took the money from the brand deal and got her a car? A portion of it. Wow. And she was also talking about how she was always followed because she had a pink car. Yeah. And...

I just, like, I was... I just didn't think... I don't know. Like, I just feel like it's unsafe, especially for a woman. The pink is... Isn't that sad, though, that, like, that's the case? Like, you can't... Because I just always have pink cars, too, and, like, we can't have them because people just, like, harass us. Yeah. It's no fair. It sucks. Especially, like, when you're, like, being a guy and having female friends and girlfriends and all that, just, like, being around women in general, like, you really see, like, how crazy it is, like, how much...

how weird guys are. So weird. I can't even imagine too because they're like young and yeah, just out there. Especially like even going to like bars and stuff like Tara's told me like so many weird like stories about people that have watched her online like guys that have watched her online and they'll tell her like

really weird things like in person yeah i've never experienced i say i guess i'm like so different because i like was not like i just never experienced that so i don't even know what it's like i can't imagine being like young attractive like money and then it's like having these guys approach you like what do you even say in that situation i like usually she i think she just says she freezes yeah and kind of like turns away but like they'll say like you know like

I don't know. I don't even know if she would let me like say the stuff that she said. But it's like, it's crazy. And then if you're like with a girl and that happens, do you, like what do you, what do you do in that situation?

It's never – no one's ever came up – When you're with them. Yeah, when I was with them. I've only heard about it like when I wasn't there. It's always the case. Yeah, I always find that too when I'm like with Moses. No one comes up to me when I'm without Moses. And I'm like a middle-aged mom. So I can't even imagine being like a hot young like girl. And it's just like a whole other level of like harassment just on safety. Yeah, it sucks. At least she's safer now with a black G-Wagon hopefully. Yeah. She does it. And you guys film a lot in her car which is very cute. Yeah. It's like – I love it. I –

But yeah, like I'm excited to do a lot of the holiday videos with her, Johnny, Carrington. It's going to be a lot of fun. Do you do – you do a lot of live stream solo. Yeah. Actually, I started doing live streams to get a part of me solo online. Yeah. I pretty much told myself that my main channel, I just want it to be collaborations just because like I love bouncing off of people. I feel so –

whenever I'm just like talking to the camera by myself and that's why I live stream because I don't feel awkward because it's live and there's actually people there. Chat, like there's like a chat you can talk to and stuff like that. But it's like almost impossible for me. Like I've done, I've tried a get ready with me like 10 times and I never put them up because I just feel so awkward. What do you mean?

mean like just like filming your day like yeah like just by myself like talking to the camera like it has to be live or with someone else or like I just I don't know I feel so uncomfortable doing it I feel like you sell yourself short because like I'm always so impressed like after we hung out and did our video on Tuesday we were like talking for like two hours in the mukbang and I was like wait that went like so fast because you do have like a lot to say which I feel like I ramble a lot no but like that's like so cool

so cool because I feel like it's like when you're in a duo you don't like get that as much and stuff like that yeah you know so I think that you solo is cool I did I said that too I was like I want to see like a morning routine like what's your day-to-day look like true true I do want to do that but I don't know if people are really interested in that I think that would be so interesting because I'm like wait what because when I saw like when we went it was at your house and I was like by the way congratulations on your new house thank you house party king over here I

I came in there. It was just like – I mean it was only a couple days after Halloween, but there was just like a severed, what, skeleton. It was like cut in half in your front yard. A bunch of animatronics. Oh, that's because the wind. It fell on my car. It did? Did it? Yeah. Oh, I don't know. I don't know where it fell, but like the head was on the car. So like when I first saw it. Kind of demonic. Uh-uh.

Honestly. You know, because it's so huge. And that was like a big creepy wolf man skeleton. Yeah, and it was just like half in your yard. And then you go in the back. And like the house is beautiful. It's a beautiful, beautiful house. But then you go in the back and it's just like animatronics, just like werewolves. I'm like, this is kind of scary. Did you ever clean it up or is it just going to stay there for a minute? It's still there. But it's because we're going to have like a junk service come and we're pretty much saying, okay, we should just put all of our junk like everywhere.

Excluding all the Halloween stuff, just everything that we need to really get rid of and get rid of it today. Have one day where someone picks up. Yeah, because our trash cans always get way too filled too fast. Okay, tell me about that because mine used to too and I lived alone. And it's like what do you fill your trash cans with that gets so full in a week? I would say –

Postmates is to blame. The takeout? Yeah, a lot of takeout food, I would say. I cook a lot of stuff, but I think everyone collectively has a lot of takeout. Wait, a Cooking with Jake series would be everything. The food I eat's not fun, though. You eat steaks. What else? I eat a lot of... Okay, this is weird, but I eat a lot of blended cottage cheese, basically.

Wait, what does that mean? Is it like a Frappuccino cottage cheese? Like how is it blended? So I get a tub of cottage cheese and I like blend it with this handheld blender. And cottage cheese almost has like no flavor. Yeah. So it's super versatile. So I'll maybe make toast and I'll like put cinnamon in it and sweeten it up and then like eat that. Wait, but what's the difference between like blend it? Is it the texture? Yeah, yeah, yeah. It turns it like into a creamy like texture. And it's...

It's like really high protein. I try to get like full fast because I never know when to stop eating. And when I eat cottage cheese, like it helps me out. You mean like your stomach just doesn't get full? No, it doesn't. Oh, I eat for like...

It's like a brain thing. Yeah. My brain's like, mm, fun, yum. And then next thing you know, like my stomach's like aching. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Just not knowing. That's kind of how I feel. I always never know when I'm like full. I'm always like, hmm, I think I could just keep eating. But 7-Eleven, I'm not going to lie, we did a 7-Eleven mukbang and it was like my stomach kind of hurt a little bit after that. I was so full after that. I was so full. I was going in though. I really went in on the nachos and pizza. You didn't as much. And I was like, it was so good in the moment. I cleared the pizza. Yeah.

I went in on the Reese's. Oh, yeah. The Nutrageous. We had those. We tried like five different. Those were so good, actually. But my stomach hurt. I used to be able to take it so well when I was like younger. But now I was like, I can't do it as much anymore. Yeah. But it was good. I was at Jamba Juice the other day and there's like this peanut butter Nutella omelet.

Oh, I haven't had that. It looked so good. Did you get it? No. Wait, why? Because I was only going in there to use the restroom because the restaurant that I was going to didn't have a bathroom. What? And I saw it and I was like, oh, I should have gone here. Wait, what restaurant doesn't have a bathroom? That's so weird. I feel like so many don't. It was a Chop Stop, though. It's like a salad place. Oh, they don't have a bathroom.

Not at that one. That's so odd. We should have gotten the bowl then just to be a patron because that sounds delicious. That's true. I love Jamba Juice. I get the peanut butter chocolate love, which kind of tastes like a Reese's. I didn't try that. I always get the blue one. I don't know if you've seen like the blue bowl. Oh, yeah. What is that one? It's like a vanilla sky or something like that. Yeah. Wait, that's exactly what it's called. Because he gets the blue drinks. Really? Yeah. Wait, that's so crazy because I never expected anyone to know that bowl. We're Jamba experts over here. Okay. I love that. They sent me a little PR package with like a bling cup and like a visor. I love Jamba. I really do.

I think they rebranded. They're refreshing. I want to try their food. I don't think I have. The food? Yeah, they have like a lot of handheld stuff, right? They have like waffles and pretzels. I don't know if it's like food, food. Maybe they do. Not the one near us though. Oh, I see. I see. I just feel like, yeah, Cinnabon now has a red Christmas. Did you see it? Cinnabon.

I love cinnamon. I love cinnamon. We were talking about this before, but like, I love cinnamon. I almost suggest that for our collab because it's by your house. Cause like the closest one to us is Topanga, which is like kind of in the middle of like your house in here. And it's so good. They did like a Christmas like red and then they have like this like peppermint, like gelato. It's yeah. It's,

Oh, I saw it and I was like, that sounds so good. Oh, my God. My favorite things are the, what is it called? Like cinnamon holes? It's like the... Oh, the inside of it? Yeah. The inside, the center. Yeah. Yes. Like the little tiny pieces, like that big. Where it's supposed to be just the insides because I only eat the insides. Oh, really? Yeah, yeah, yeah. Because the ends are good, but I just like, I like to get like two and just eat the insides of them. Yeah, it's like all melted butter in the middle. Cinnabon. So good. I know, there's not one close, but Cinnabon I love.

I just love like mall food. Have you done a video like that where you just go try all the mall food? I haven't, but I agree. I love mall food. Like fair food. Just like I love – I like buttery, like oily food. Funnel cake. Did you do any this summer? Because I haven't seen you since the summer. No, I haven't been to a fair like Disney or anything like that in a year. That's what you were saying. That's so wild. Can we talk about your upcoming trip or not?

Sure. So you're going to Japan. Yeah. Okay, so excited. And you're saying you haven't been to Disney, but the Disneyland in Japan is supposed to be the best one. Oh, really? Have you seen it? Anything about it? No, I've only been to Disneyland here like once.

Wait, you're not like a Disney kid, which is crazy. I think Disney's really cool. I just – I haven't been to like a really like big public setting in a while. Especially the way – I feel like the way you look, you just like stand out where people, if they didn't even know you, just looking at you, they'd be like, oh, that's somebody. I want to take a picture with them. I feel like a lot of people that come up to me like recognize me online, but they don't actually watch like my stuff, if that makes sense. Yeah, yeah. I guess – I know a makeup artist actually has seen you before in Ralphs. She goes, I think that's the person because she doesn't watch YouTube or anything. She goes –

the one you always clap with. I see him at like Ralph's and I was like, yeah, you can't miss him. I have a lot of people come up to me and like reference our collab. Really? Yeah. That's so funny. I think that's cool. I like that because I feel like we're so like not in the same friend group, but I like that we still collab. I just like guys that are problematic because I feel like I'm so hard on men, but then I'm like, wait, there's some good male influencers out there. I try to be. I'd like to think I'm cool. You really are. I was asking your secrets last time. I was like, wait, what's your secret to being, to staying out of

being problematic. I don't know. I don't really like... I don't think I keep up with pop culture that much. Yeah. And I don't leave my house that much. I do go out a lot, though. That's what I'm saying. But you never hear anything about you. Like, we really, like... In the good way. Like, you know, you track people that go out and you're just like, oh, man, this happened this week. And, like, David Dobrik's Halloween party was our hot topic. But you never...

like that. You know what I mean? I think that like, I don't know. Whenever I go out, I usually am only talking to like my close friends that are right next to me. You keep it like tight. Yeah. It's more so like a setting change versus like

interacting with everyone. Yeah. And usually our parties are kind of like the same pocket of people. Like, we're all mutuals. Like, everyone knows each other. Okay, no newbies. No, no. I would like, I wouldn't want to like, since it's at our house, like, I'd want to feel like everyone there is like safe to be around amongst each other and everything. That's so good. How do you like, do you have people at the door like on a list? Like, how do you check? Yeah, yeah. Really? Yeah. Well, we want to keep it like safer obviously ourselves and everyone. There is somebody you have. Yeah, we have like

multiple like security. That's so good because I feel like I've known so many influencers go to their party and you literally just show up including me. I've had like house parties where like there's 300 people that I don't even know. Yeah. So I guess you have to do that. Wow, you're so smart. Well, it's being in our house like being where we sleep like it I feel like Yeah. It just that's also a big thing. How do you get people out

The security. But like I used to be so scared. I used to be so scared because I never thought about telling them. But they were there. But whenever they used to not do that, we would just have Tara stand on the kitchen table. Wait, actually? And it worked? Yeah, because I'm like I don't want to – like that scares me. Telling people to leave? Yeah, yeah. No, actually.

No, I know. That's my biggest fear in general is just like the out. Like I'm like how do you like get out of a party situation, you know? Yeah. We have ours like outside. We have like an outside area. So when we're done, we just like go in and like lock the door. Like, hey, have fun everyone. Like good luck. You know what I mean? Then you have to do it. Because yours was in your backyard, which is like so,

So slight. It was so cool. And you set up the entire party, which I thought that was so impressive. Yeah. People tell me to get someone, but I don't, I just don't think about that. And we also film like getting the supplies and stuff. Yeah. But the actual, like put, you could get the supplies, but then like having someone help you, but you put everything up yourself. It's, it's usually like not too decorated. Like we kind of, we kind of like the, well, the Halloween one was like,

I did a spirit video before that, like a spirit Halloween video. Not sponsored though, right? No, no. Which is crazy because they sponsor so many people. Like how did they not sponsor you?

I have no idea. You're just like, love spirit. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Me and Johnny did so many videos. At Spirit Halloween? Everything, yeah. So we had a lot of stuff already that we just kind of placed everywhere. Wow. Well, maybe they'll give you a sponsorship because now Spirit Halloweens are turning into Spirit Christmases. I know. Did you see that? Yeah, I want to fly to one with Johnny. Wait, they're not here? They're not in California? Well, I don't know if they're coming to California, but...

There's ones that are open on the east coast right now and they have like a santa there, too Oh my god, you have to do it because you're like a christmas queen kind of because you already have your christmas tree up I know I wasn't like that every year, but this year i'm like i'm gonna be festive And I feel like that's just because like i'm around like I I have like just People that i'm really close to in my life and I just like want to experience that with them make it cozy Yeah, have your parents visited you at the new house yet?

It was really early on and I was still moving in. So, yeah. So they haven't seen it. I feel like it kind of doesn't count yet. Yeah. I didn't have like a guest bedroom or anything like that. Now you do. It's a futon, but yeah. That's so cool. They're probably so proud of you. I was proud of you. I'm not your mom. I was like, wait, this is cool. Thank you. And it's so nice. Like it was really nicely kept in there and it just looked like huge. I like always, it's only messy whenever people don't come over. That's the only reason why I clean. Really? Yeah. And you do it yourself too? Yeah. Yeah.

that's pretty impressive. Well, we have someone help us whenever there's a party. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Because even if I did it myself, I wouldn't do it well. Oh my God, no, after a party, just because like inevitably people will like spill stuff and everything like that. Okay, so back to your party. I was like kind of shook. I was like, you had all American rejects there. How did that come about? They wanted to crash a Halloween party. Okay, explain further because we talked about this at the end of the show.

Was it the end of a mukbang? I was like, I need to know more. I never was, like, hit up directly. Okay. I know they talked to Tara. They talked to Johnny. And, well, I know they talked to Johnny. But Johnny, like, thought that they met on a specific date. So he was like, oh, like...

We can't do that. Wait, what do you mean? Like they gave him a date and he's like, oh, that doesn't work. Yeah, I think so. I think so. I was like, Johnny, you didn't ask for like maybe like if they could do another day. Wait, they're like DMing him or what? I think, I don't know. Like a manager or something. Something like that. It's not. But they just, I know they wanted to crash a Halloween party. Did they film? Were they filming anything? I know they filmed, I think they filmed, they filmed like a little compilation of it, but

Did they put it on their channel yet or anything or on their socials? Yeah, yeah. There's like a compilation video on there. I think that's like what they're filming. But yeah, we filmed as well. Okay. Because I was thinking like maybe they were trying to do like a music video because Maroon 5 did that. He would like crash weddings and then they would like – it was their music video. Do you think it was something like that?

I don't think so, no. There wasn't like a new song they're promoting? I think they're just trying to crash a Halloween party. I think that's awesome. That's crazy. And so then Johnny's like, okay, this date doesn't work. So then what? You like get involved and you're like, okay, but actually this date works or something. Well, since like they asked Tara if she was maybe having one and Tara wasn't. And then she was like, oh, you should ask Jake. And we asked Johnny and blah, blah, blah. We got to the point where...

We've got to figure it out and it happened and it was awesome. That's so cool. If All American Rejects asked me to host a party, I'd be like, or they asked me if I was, I'd be like, absolutely, even if I wasn't going to. I didn't think it would be like real. I couldn't process it until all the instruments were coming in the day of and they did rehearsals and I was like, oh,

Wait, so you're just like watching from your like sliding glass door just watching them practice? Because it's also like it's cute, but it's not like a huge backyard. So it's like really just like where do they even set up? It was in the garage. They played in the garage? Yeah, yeah. Oh my God. That is so weird. I wonder why they did that. I don't know. I think it's awesome. No, it's the coolest thing. I'm just like – I can't wrap my head around it. And you have to pay. No. No.

They just did it. They just want to crash it. Oh, my God. Well, if you guys want to crash my throw party, I'll throw anything to have them play that. Yeah, they just like I think that they genuinely thought it'd be a lot of fun and we knew it would as well. So it just happened. It was awesome. It was like one of the best nights ever. Yeah, that's insane. Did you get to sing with them?

I popped in a few times. Did you get, like, a microphone with him? We used the same one because there's one in the middle. Oh, my God. I would not want to, like, walk around with my own mic and sing. Wait, why? I've never performed. Like, singing sounds so scary. What do you mean you are a singer? You have a song out. You have music out. I know, but I've never done a live show before. But Johnny and Karenton performed together a couple days ago, and it inspired me a little more, too. But...

I don't know. I feel like I kind of have, like, this perfectionist problem in my mind. And I'm not, like, a trained singer. Like, I know it, like, sounds good to me. But, like, I don't know how, you know, in-ears work and all this stuff. And I just, like, want to do my best. And it's scary knowing there's a possibility that I couldn't. Well, I think you just have to, like, try it. That's why I, like, edit my own videos and make all my own stuff. Because I just feel like...

I feel like I always want everything to be so, like, tidy. But I feel like if you found someone to, like, help you, you know, like, they'll, like, sound text or even if you have, like, would you sing live with, like, a band? Yeah. That would be really cool. Oh, my God. You so should. So they came with other instruments. And so he was singing live. Is his name Tyson? That's his name? Yeah. Okay. So he's singing live. And you're singing with them. Like, you're just kind of, like, aware. I popped in for, like, a couple seconds. It was kind of, like, just like a pop in, pop out. But it was awesome. Did they do all their famous songs? Yeah. What's, like, their most famous song?

Dirty Little Secret? I would say Dirty Little Secret and Gives You Hell. Oh, my God. Oh, yeah. Gives You Hell was so good. That's so crazy you know them because like I was saying this to you. I'm like I feel like they're like my generation. Really? Yeah. I feel like I was listening to them like my whole life growing up. So I feel like they have like a big part of my life. That's crazy. And I love the Gives You Hell music video. That's like one of my favorite music videos ever. Me too. I remember the Gives You Hell and the music video I did with them was like the one – the

follow up to it and like nobody watched it and nobody cared about it but I thought oh it's gonna be like gives you how it's gonna be so cool it's gonna be so sick because it's the universal backlog and then it came out it's called The Beekeeper's Daughter it's like no one watched it I still think to this day it doesn't even have like a million views or something like that I'll check it out

It was cool. It was cool. But he wasn't like – I thought he would be like really, really cool. But he was kind of – he was nice but he probably was cool to you because he rushed your house. But did you guys get to hang out, vlog talk, anything? Just for a little bit. Everything was really busy. Like we were getting everything for the day and they were setting up. But yeah, they were really nice the little bit that we chatted up.

Cause he's like an actor too. He's been in like house bunny. Like he's been in like movies and stuff. I'd be starstruck. House bunny is awesome. So good. Right. And he was so good in it. Oh man, that's like my dream. Is there like a band that you'd be like, I know you, okay. Besides the ones you mentioned, cause I know we talked about, wait, don't tell me what was it? It's like the grudge or something is your favorite band. What's your favorite band called? A lot of my favorite bands are like, if you say it, I know. Cause I know you mentioned it. From the seventies to eighties. It's a, well, I like the germs. I like black flag. Um,

I like the dead boys, but those bands aren't active right now. Who's active that you would want? Let's see. I like Escape the Fate a lot. Oh, yeah. They're from the early 2000s. You said... I'm like, what song do they sing? Escape the Fate. I don't know. You know me. I don't know any of these. What's the biggest one? I don't know.

Maybe Situations. It's like, Situations are irrelevant now. Do you know that song? No, but it sounds dope. It's awesome. That sounded good. See, you just sang live. That was so good. I feel like you actually would. I was looking at your music video. I hadn't seen it. It's called, like, I'm Dying or something. Oh, I Know We're Dying. I Know We're Dying. Did you write it? Yeah, I wrote, like, everything I made. So that means you're, like, actually musically talented, like, to be able to, like, write that song, compose it. Did you produce it, too, or did you have, like, a producer? I...

I work with like someone that yeah like tracks me and everything but my last song that I made I haven't dropped it yet But I made it laying down in my bed on my phone, and then I just had some someone mix and master it And it sounds good. I was like oh, I'm like I don't kind of want to keep trying this. Oh wait wait what's it called? What like the song? Yeah, Dead Hair. Wow you really love things like dying dead dead hair like as in it grew out and now it's dead Yeah, just like just like dead hair. You know like

Fried hair. I don't know. I like I don't know I kind of just like I like like bold things I feel like

Yeah, like words like that. I know. It's so emo of you. No, you're not emo. Death, love, all that stuff. Black, red. I just like the boldness. Just like everything. I feel like, yeah, I like black because I feel like black is a bold color. And red, I feel like red resembles sexy. It's like red lipstick. Yeah. Stop signs, red lights. What?

is that plain sexy? Not sexy. I mean, just like, like, like danger and like sexy, you know, like those things go together, you know, like, like blood, stop signs, ambulances, like,

Like red lipstick. I just – I don't know. I feel like red is just a really bold color. Yeah. Yeah, I guess. It's kind of like a jarring color. You should get like a black Christmas tree and put – it's very also My Chemical Romance. When I think of black and red, I think of – That would be sick. They have them. I don't know where I'd get it. Like Wayfair or something? Yes. They have them online. My hairstylist was telling me he got a black Christmas tree and he put like little like sexy Santa men all over it. Whoa. Yeah. I want to – I want to –

cool ornaments like every year and then slowly have like a lot throughout the years that'd be cool. What's your ornament this year? I don't have one yet. You haven't gotten like those oh man because your tree is up you don't have anything on it? Well we got the tree last year I haven't gone Christmas shopping yet because I'm waiting for Johnny we're gonna do it together. Aww that's so cute so that's like your tradition. Yeah.

Not just for fun. Yeah, just take some of the charm. Yeah, for a video. I thought that was so cute. I was like, wow, you're going to wait for him. Yeah, yeah. Okay, love it. But I genuinely have fun doing those videos. It's not like work. No, no. I don't like to do anything that feels like work. You have to, yeah. If there's a video that I'm not having fun editing, it never really goes up because I just never can finish it. There's been stuff you haven't posted? There's been a lot. Wait, why? There's so many videos. Any slabs? No.

You don't tell me who. I don't think so. There's never been someone you feel like that's not good. I actually don't think so. It's just videos where I'm editing and if I'm not having fun editing, then it just never gets done. That's so sad. I just throw it up there just so you have something up there. I've gone camping with Johnny. And you haven't posted it? We went to Golden Corral High.

Oh, my God. Wait. You have to post that. There's so many. Well, I don't even know if the footage even exists anymore. You don't think you hit record or what? No. I just like, you know, I just. Destroyed it? I cleared my SD cards. Yeah. I threw it in a fire. You're like, I don't think it's there anymore. Yeah. That's so good. Those would have been so good. But I like, I now have someone that like chops it up. And then now I like, I put like the music and all the edits and everything. So that helps. So yeah.

Yeah. It saves a lot of time for me. And you also – like I feel like when you edit yourself, like you're more critical. You know, I always hear that. I don't edit. But I feel like people who do are like, oh, I hate editing myself. Yeah, exactly. Yeah. You said your dream – well, I don't know if it was your dream collab. I thought your dream collab. You said you love Lucas and Jacob. They're sick. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Something like that. Something like middle America vibes. They're really cool. I wonder if they are from that. You were talking about that. Maybe they are actually from like Nebraska or something. It kind of makes sense. Unless that was Fred. Yeah.

One of them was from Nebraska, I think. I can't remember which one. Well, they're like brothers. I feel like they would both have to be, right? That's true, I guess. I don't know. But I think that would be the most iconic collab. I told you they're in LA. I think so, too. I would love to do a video with them. I think they have no idea that I watch them all the time. Now they will because we mentioned them twice. I thought that was the coolest thing. When you said that, you're like, oh, do you know who Lucas Kirshenck is? I'm like, do I know Lucas Kirshenck? I love him. He's iconic in every single way. And his brother, too. I watch a lot of the...

same things that like I do myself so I've like gone on cruises they've gone on cruises like just anything that like because everything I do is like stuff that I love to do and I love to watch that stuff as well so see what people do do you know the youtuber Tanificent

I don't think so. He's gone to like all the rainforest cafes in the world. He goes like across country or he'll go to like all the – I've never been to one. I need to. Okay. There's one. Okay. There's one on TikTok I just saw. It's called the like Wild River Ride or something. And there's a – it's a water ride inside the Rainforest Cafe. Yeah. I don't know where it is. It's somewhere in the United States, but I don't know where it is. And I'm like I want to go so bad because I'm obsessed with it. I love a good themed place. Oh, Rainforest Cafe. Did you ever go as a kid? No. I've never been. Oh, yeah.

But like anywhere that just has like a theme, I love it. Is there any themes out here? I feel like there's no themed restaurants. Like what's one in LA that you like? Medieval Times. I don't know. Have you been there?

Yeah. Do you like it? Multiple times. Yeah, I do. I think you have been to Disneyland, which is right next door, but you've been to Medieval Times multiple times. Yeah. Well, I think I've been to Disney like once, but it was so long ago. Like my memory, I feel like it's gotten so bad. I used to be so sharp. Like I remember like the clothes that I'd wear on days. And now, I don't know. I feel like maybe like so much happens that there's just not enough room in my brain. You're like overstimulated. That happens. I make a lot of notes.

But Medieval Times is my all-time favorite place in the whole entire world. Have you been to Pirates Times? Is that what it's called? No. It's like right next to it. Have you been? No, but it's a goal of mine. I want – yeah, same. But it's like it's so close to Medieval Times that every time we think of going, I'm like, oh, let's just go to Medieval Times. You know what I mean? Yeah. I heard Medieval Times is the better one anyways. It would be cool though to see like a pirate-themed show. I do love – I love a good theme. Medieval Times is good. Disneyland I think you would just do – you would just love because of all the food. You know what I mean? Yeah. Yeah.

They have all the themes. Yeah, I would want to try everything. Especially not for Christmas time. They have like themed food. If you go to Japan, you should really – oh my god. Wait, okay. I hope you go because also too they have like really cute like Minion – no, not Minion. What's the little green ones from Toy Story? The little aliens. Do you watch Toy Story? Yeah. What are they called? Are they just called aliens? Maybe it's aliens. They have like the alien like – they're not macaroons. What's the Japanese thing that was like balls?

Oh, mochi. Yeah. Do you eat mochi in general? Yeah. It took me a second to get used to it because I couldn't understand the texture. Yeah, the bread feeling, then the ice cream. And it was just like, it didn't make sense in my brain. But now I like it. Oh, my God. Look up. Okay, seriously, you need to look up the food at Tokyo Disney. It's like literally my goal. My goal in life is to go here. And they have the little alien mochi balls and they look so good. All the food there looks insane. I'm going to, what's it, like a...

San Rio. Do you know San Rio? Hello, Kitty World. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Oh, my gosh. That's everything. The food there is going to be great, too. I don't think I knew there was a Disney there. It's Tokyo at sea. I might have to fix my itinerary. Wait, so do you have stuff planned? Because you kind of said, like, oh, we're just kind of going for the food. But, like, do you have stuff planned? Yeah. Everywhere I go, I exhaust anyone that goes with me anywhere because I like to have something –

going on like all day and and i have things just like in there to be safe if like we get too bored like usually a lot of a lot of times we don't do everything but most of the time like i have jam-packed yeah jam-packed oh i'm the exact same way people don't you want vacation to like relax i'm like no i want to go especially somewhat place like like tokyo are you going all over japan or just tokyo tokyo yeah if um

I usually like to get everything done in one place and then I'll go somewhere nearby. Are you saying like Airbnbs or hotels? Hotel. I'm not a fan of Airbnbs. Have you ever done it? I've never done it. Tara was the one that convinced me that they're not as cool as we thought because at Airbnbs you have to like...

You have to like clean and make the bed afterwards. Really? Yeah. You don't get like all this complimentary stuff. Like you don't have someone coming to your door. You don't get toothbrushes. Yeah. Like you have to like take out the trash when you leave. And at a hotel, like they take care of you from like start to finish. I love a hotel. It's so nice. You can like call like bathrobes up into your room. Yeah. And more toilet paper. You don't have to clean anything. Yeah. Food, room service if you want it. Room service. Yeah. Like I just feel like.

Hotels are so complimentary, but I feel like Airbnb, I feel like it was cheaper when it first started, but now it's like the same price as hotels and I feel like hotels are the better option. Yeah. Or also people are like spying on people on Airbnbs too. Like they'll have ring footage or like owners will just like come in. Yeah. That's freaky. Also, also, uh, people will like, I feel like it, like people market up places, like they'll buy a house just to Airbnb it. And I feel like it just makes a lot of things wonky for people.

Yeah, like in the neighborhood. There's so many rules now. It's like if you like go to buy a house so that like you can't Airbnb it, which I'm like I guess it's a law. You can do now. I don't know. I remember someone was talking about like their entire neighborhood was almost all Airbnbs. Yeah, it ruins it. Like I used to live in a really nice apartment complex, but then they just Airbnb'd all the time. So it's just like random people coming in. But you went there for like the security, but then there's like random people coming in. Clearly it's not secure anymore. Yeah. So it is annoying. I think in general people are scared of it more now. I'm team hotel. Yeah.

Yeah, same. Can you say where you're staying? We can bleep it out too. I just want to know. I don't know where I'm staying. It's in another language. Wait, where did you book it? I just like went to a booking website and I was like, oh, this one looks cool. Oh, it's not like a chain one? It's not like a Four Seasons? It's just like a random hotel that you don't know the name. How are you going to get there? How are you going to find it?

Uh, train, Uber. Well, I mean, I have the address, but I have no idea, like, how to pronounce it. Do you have a translator or anything? I don't even know. Google Translator. I'm going to use that. Because I saw there's, like, if you use the Google app, you could, like, get your camera and, like, hold it over a menu, and it translates the whole menu. Oh, that's so cool. Like, you take a picture of the menu, and it, like...

On the menu, all the words get changed. Like it helps you like that. On the screen. Yeah. Which it wasn't like – whenever I thought about translating, I thought like you go to Google and type it in. But like you take a picture and it like changes the whole menu's text. Okay. That's so cool. And it's just on Google? It's just a Google feature? Yeah. It's on the Google app. Oh my god. There's so much. Like I just found out about the Google app like maybe six months ago, like reverse image search where like – Yeah. If you want to know what's there, someone worry, it's like, oh, it'll show you where they got it. Yeah. So smart.

It's actually insane. That's cool. So you won't need a translator. Have you tried to learn any Japanese? No, but I want to learn like simple things because I always have this thought in my mind like –

I feel like Americans go places and they just, like, don't expect anyone to care. Like, they don't try to, like, even a little bit to speak the language. Like, there's a lot of people in America where English isn't their first language. But they make the effort to, like, order things. Like, they don't just come up and speak their language and order things. But, like, Americans, they'll go somewhere like Japan and be like...

I'll get the – just expect them to know. Because I love learning languages. I don't know any like fluently, but I like to learn little words here and there. So when I do order something, like I love to just like throw it in there. You know what I mean? Yeah. Because it just shows effort. Like you're learning – especially if you're going to someone else's like another country, like you should just make that effort. Granted, I think a lot of people do speak English all over, but I think they'd like it just like the – Yeah. You know, like,こんにちは.

You know, something cute like that. I think would be cute. When I went to Italy, I learned, could I get a, can I get a coffee? What is it? I don't know if I remember it that well, but it's like, passa un, passa ver un caffè, something like that. Ooh.

Something like that. That was good. But that was also the only thing that I ordered when I was there. You didn't order pasta? Well, I did. But like I was ordering like 10 coffees a day. Wow. So you love Red Bull, coffee, Diet Coke. Just like energy drinks. Yeah. Yeah. Well, I mean, I don't like drink things for thirst. It's like the flavor is like fun in my brain. That's the best. I miss those days. So I'm always like – I mean, I just cleared this Sprite. Is that what was in there? Yeah. I wanted to know what was in there.

in there. It was to the brim. Just regular Sprite? Yeah. Have you tried Sprite Cranberry? Yes. It comes out and then now they have a new Shirley Temple 7 up. Have you seen that? I've tried that. Wait, really? Where did you find that?

I haven't found it anywhere. Uh, Rouse. No. Okay. I'm going to go right after this. It's so funny. Cause like my friends will like send me, um, new things that are coming to like chains and I'll be like, I found out about this the moment it was announced. I follow like, yeah, I follow like 10 food pages on Instagram. Like snack-o-later and snack-o-later. Yeah. Wait, do you snack-o-later? Snack-gator. Snack-o-later. Wait, I follow all of these. You know all of these? Of course, I do too. Snack-o-later.

Snack-a-later, snack-gator. They used to have Chew Boom, but that went down. Oh, yeah. Food Beast is good. Chew Boom. Chew Boom used to be my favorite. It was ChewBoom.com, and they stopped literally this year. But it used to be the one that I'd go to for everything, and they'd tell you when the new drops. Snack-a-later is the best because he does all the drops for the week, so you kind of know what's coming out. There's nothing too exciting yet, but the drinks, like the cranberry drinks are like –

I'm really excited for holiday drinks and holiday snacks. Like, I'm a big, like, bakery person. Like, I like, like, donuts, pies. I just feel like they're really comforting. Do you ever do crumble? Yes, I do. I used to do crumble, like, every single week. But I haven't done my live channel in, like, a couple weeks just because, like, Halloween got crazy. Yeah, you're, like, not having time for it. Yeah, I have to get ready every day for it. And, like, and I have to, like, that's usually, like, you

You know, I usually like to sit and enjoy food watching TV, but like that's my meal. And I don't know. It's just hard to like usually squeeze it in if I have a busy day. Yeah, you did say that. I thought that was so interesting. You're like, if I'm not eating on camera, then I'm like eating boring stuff, like stuff that's like healthy or whatever, just little amounts. Mainly if I'm by myself. Like if I'm by my friends, like we like to be foodies. Okay. When you're by yourself, you're eating what? Off camera. I'm eating...

Okay. Well, I ate something today. What did I eat today? Oh. Oh. I ate a packet of like – it was like a – do you know like the tuna packets where it comes with like the – Like the Star Kiss or something? Yeah. It was that but the Sloppy Joe mix and I put it in a tortilla with the Kraft single. Is it melted? Yeah.

okay, that's cute. All right. And it was like, I was like, oh, this is like close enough to like a Taco Bell bean burrito. Why did you just get a Taco Bell bean burrito and like film it? Because I was just at home and I was like, you know, I was trying to like, oh,

oh yeah true i don't know i didn't have that much time i was just at home and i was like i'll just whip this up real quick i cook a lot of food i try not to post me that much wait i'm so curious some more about your cooking because i feel like that's also like something i don't know about you it's all really odd food like everyone like there's no one i i wouldn't every time i try to give my friends some of it they're like dude what the hell is this you should do a video like that like cooking for karen and cooking for tara and see like how they like your food like give them like a three course meal like what would you

cook for Dory yummy? It would be Johnny's nightmare trying anything I made. Oh, cause he loves chicken tenders and like just like basic food. Yeah. Yeah. But he's actually been, he's actually been trying a lot of new stuff lately, which is super cool. Really? Just like with you, like for the videos or like in life? In life. Yeah. Yeah. That's what happens when you find new love. You're just a new person. You start finding new things that you're into. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. True. Yeah. It's super cool. So what would you cook him?

Oh, okay. Like, it's going to be – this is going to be so niche. But, like, I would try to make chicken tenders, like, in my way. Have you ever tried to make homemade chicken tenders? Yeah, yeah. What do you do? You use Panko? I use, like –

I pretty much make sure that everything I eat is like at least like 70% protein. That's what makes all my stuff wonky. That's why everything's so wonky. You just got a big chicken. So I'll get like protein-based bread and I'll toast it and then I'll crumble it. So it's like bread crumbs. And then I'll get chicken breasts and I'll either like coat it in like –

Greek yogurt or like egg whites and then I'll cover it and then I'll bake it. In Greek yogurt? I've never heard that. Yeah. And it sticks? Yeah. Yeah. And then I'll just like put an ungodly amount of like paprika and salt and pepper on it. Have you ever done that for a video? No. I just like – I just don't think it's stuff that anyone would want to eat. I feel like first of all it sounds –

That's a little weird, but also sounds kind of good. Because if you can make something, like, healthy – is it healthy or just – I don't know. Everyone's into protein that we know. I don't think – like, I don't know. I don't, like, consider, like, the super high-protein stuff, like, healthy. Like, you know, I feel like it would help – it helps you get full and, like, I guess, like, leaner. But, like, it's kind of frankenfood, you know? Yeah, yeah, yeah. Like, low-fat products and, like, protein bread. Like, it's, like – I think of it as, like, frankenfood. Right.

I've never heard that term. It's just like, you know, like genetically like modified, like, you know, like they make like grainless bread, but it's like, how do you make grainless bread? Like bread is the grain. What is it? I wonder what it is. That is so odd. Like a hundred things, like a hundred things on the ingredients. But you're pretty crafty and you shop at Ralph's? Yeah.

Is that where you get your groceries? Because I know my friends like, I saw my Ralphs. I'm like, I wouldn't take you for a Ralphs person. I love Ralphs, but I wouldn't take you as it. Well, I mean, it's the closest one to me. Okay. So you're like, okay, Ralphs 7-Eleven. Yeah. I'm not like in like an Air One person really or anything like that. Like I'm like, I'm so like middle America coded. Like,

Yeah, I love 7-Eleven. I feel – yeah, I think we were talking too. Like you can't take it like the Midwest out of the Midwest person. You know what I mean? Like we can get out of the Midwest, but I'm the same way. Like I just love – I love a good 7-Eleven. We had Casey. Shout out to everyone in the Midwest that has Casey's. Their like food was so good. Yeah, you were telling me about that. I have yet to try their pizza. Oh my god. It's like amazing. You like – what was the one you liked? Quickie Mart?

Quick trip. Quick trip. And they have like a full kitchen and everything. So it's kind of like the same vibe. But yeah, they're like everywhere in Kansas, which is where I'm from. Have you ever done a video going back to Wichita and trying that food? No, I would love to though. But like every time I go back, like...

In my mind, I'm like, oh, I just want nothing to do with videos right now. Oh, so that's interesting, too, because you were just in Paris and you said that you like I didn't film anything other than like a TikTok or something like that. You didn't do like any content. Yeah. No video. Like how? Why? Like, I've never been that person. I always have to film. I'm like, wait, we're here. That's how it was. Like, I would say like up until last year.

everywhere I went, I was like, oh, I'm not like taking advantage of this. Like I'd go to like restaurants with my friends. I'm like, I need to like film them. I need to like film my food. And eventually like one day I was just like, wait, like I don't really like, like I don't like doing this. I feel like I have to and I'm going to try just like,

Not to film anything outside of my videos so enjoy yeah Yeah, because I feel it could be different like if I liked doing it But I didn't like I felt like like I had to like I didn't really like want to and yes It is kind of cool But I know like there there is like a piece missing of like my life's updates online that people don't get that people that support me, but I don't know I

I like it like this, this way. That's why I was so shocked you wanted to come on because you're like, I really don't talk about my personal life. And I was like, oh my God, that's like all I talk about. It's like, I don't like, it's so cool. And I think people do want to know so much about you because, but also keeping, I guess, like a little bit of the enigma, the mystery of it all. People are like, wait, what's he doing in Paris? Like all of a sudden you can jump in front of the Eiffel Tower. Yeah. Well, people don't like know, people don't know anyone I even like hang out with. Like I have like a lot of, I have like a few friends that,

I don't think they've ever like been into my things at all. And they're influencers or no? Yeah. Yeah. But we just like don't film, ever film or like show each other. Like we're just hanging out in general. So weird. I don't think I've ever done that where I'm with an influencer. I'm like, well, we should take a picture because we're an influencer. Like, you know what I mean? Well, we're like, we're not like, it's not like a one time thing. Like we're like, we hang out like, like once a week and,

I don't know. There's like a lot of fun things that I do. I just don't, I never really feel that. You just don't feel the need to document. I wish I could get there. I really feel like I have to document everything. It's really odd because like everything that I do post, I think that's, that's all there is to me. And like, that's, that's what they should base their opinion off of me on. But I mean, anything I post online is more so like just all for entertainment. Like it's not really like, like your life. Yeah. It's not really my life. Like whenever I film on,

It's like, you know, the camera's on. I'm aware the camera's on and I'm trying to like entertain and then I don't show much outside of that. Yeah. You have like a very, very private life. Again, just like the literally like two hours I spent with you. We spent maybe two hours together in the past two years. But everything I know – or a year, whatever we met. It's like – but you have so much like lore. There's so much like private stuff that you don't talk about. I'm like, this is so interesting though. And I'm like, if you ever come out with it, I'm like, come back on here because I really want to know because it's so –

You're such an open book in real life. Like you are. You're very much like, oh, this is like this, this, and this, but like online. I think it's smart. I think it's smart. Would you ever put another relationship online like you and Tara? Um...

I think if I was to, like, it would be, like, more of, like, a casual thing. Yeah. But, you know, with Tara, which, like, I'm so blessed. But, like, you know, my best friends, like, we all also film together. And it works. Yeah. But, like, you know, me and Tara, like, also, in a way, we're also, like, coworkers in a way. People know you together. Yeah. And I'm super happy that we could also have a really good friendship with it. But, like, I just wouldn't want...

to have like a coworker vibe with someone in a relationship again. It didn't affect me at all. Like everything worked so smoothly and it was fine. It just not something that I would prefer to like have again.

But I would still be, like, open about it online. Just, like, not, like, okay, we're working together. We're making videos together. Yeah. Then it becomes, like, too much, I guess. Yeah. But I guess when you're, like, in a new relationship, too. I know, like, when we first got together, I just, like, loved showing him. And then, like, I recently was, like, oh, my God, I, like, never show him anymore. But I guess it's just, like, that first excitement, you know, that you want to, like, share everything and do everything. Yeah. Yeah. 100%. Which is, like – and then you're with that person all the time. And then you're, like, oh, I just want to make cute content. Yeah. And a lot of my – even, like, a lot of my friends, like, we really aren't online that much before, like –

A lot of my friends, like, we don't really post too much together, like, right when we started becoming friends. Like, Carrington, like, I feel like we started filming with each other, like, maybe, like, well, at least a lot, like, six months and him moving in. And same with Johnny. Like, I feel like we just, like, kind of developed our friendship first and then we're, like...

Let's make a video together. Wow. Oh, my God. Okay. What's the difference between – because, again, as an outsider, it looks like your life was like Jake and Johnny. And then it was like – and obviously Tara. It looks like you and Tara. But now it looks like Jake and Carrington. So, like, what's the biggest difference filming with them? Because you also live together. Do people know that or no? Yeah. They guys all live together. Okay. So you guys are all three living in this house. What's the difference, pros and cons of each one? Yeah.

Like of each person? Yeah, you can say pros. You don't have to say cons. We're just trying to get tea. Like what's the worst part? Well, I would say that like – I don't know. Like –

I would say they're my three best friends, and I feel like we all have a really healthy friendship. But yeah, everything's a little different. I would say with Tara, since Tara doesn't live there, we get lunch a lot, stuff like that. Carrington's more of like we wake up and we'll get coffee. We like to go on car runs a lot. Oh my god, that's so cool.

cute Johnny like a lot of movies like we watch movies together but like he hates that I fall asleep five minutes in well they all hate that like I always do that you're so girly pop-coded I love that you're like I just fall asleep five minutes into a movie it's the only way I could sleep like I secretly know that I'm gonna fall asleep I don't tell them yeah oh my gosh I'm the same way I just kind of like knock

out yeah and then they're like wait you missed the whole thing yeah no exactly exactly yeah but like uh yeah like everyone like everyone's like a little different but I feel like we're all we all have the same closeness and everyone's close with each other as well like it's not like a

them two or them two like everyone's like equally close like we all keep up with each other i think that i was telling you i think maybe off camera on i don't remember on my video but i've been like a part of friend groups and like i loved everyone but like i was kind of more of like a like a floater for it in a way like i never like hung out with anyone like one-on-one yeah and this is like more of like an intimate like close friendship where everyone's like actually like

close to each other and cares about each other's feelings and keeps up with each other so it's like a super cool situation do you think um when one of you like if you were to get a serious relationship again do you think that your friendships would like not be as relevant and in my brain i wouldn't like let anything change whatever like changes in my life i wouldn't want uh my other relationships with anyone to change but do you think it would

Like, I don't think so. I don't think so. Because when you and Tara started dating, do you think that your friendships changed at the time? Are you still friends with the people you were friends with like when you met Tara? Yeah.

No, because I would say that Tara was, like, the first person that taught me how to be close with someone. Like, I've even... I've dated people before Tara, and then I realized that, like, I actually... Like, there wasn't really emotional, like, availability there. Like, real closeness. Like, she taught me that. So... And that's what, like, I went in with when I became, like, friends with Johnny and Carrington. Yeah. So, like, I, like...

She taught me, like, how to be, like, close and keep up with people. Yeah. Like, make sure you, like, check in on them and stuff like that. Yeah. I guess I'm, like, the worst at it. I mean, it's hard to even have, like, friends that aren't best friends because, like, those friends, like, I'll forget to, like, talk to them for months. Yeah. You're like, oh.

Sometimes I go on like rampages like texting back like 20 people like I gotta go through all my missed texts right now Wait, how many texts are like on your phone at a time when you look at your phone like the little bubble? What does it say? Is it always cleared at like zero or do you have like a thousand? Oh 230. Oh, I hate that so much 230 and did you ever go and clear it at one point like look at every single text? No, but usually what I do like I

a random time in the week, I'll look at my phone and like realize I didn't text back like 20 people. And then I'll like do it all at once. And then I'll like, I don't know. I, there's something that makes me like anxious about reading text messages and replying. Same. Even if it's nothing negative, like I'll just read it and be like,

I'll get to this in a sec. And then I never do. Like, I forget. I hate it, too. If someone sends me a voice memo, I always have him listen to it. Because, like you said, even if it's not bad, I'm like, I don't – why are they voice memoing me? Like, I don't want to know. And I always have him listen to it. So if you voice memo me, it's Moses listening first because I just get, like, nervous. Yeah. Like, phone calls, like, those freak me out. Yeah. Like, why are you calling? Like, what happened? Did someone die? Like, that's what I think. That's what I think. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Exactly. Like, if you're going to call from back home, like, my brother will call me sometimes at, like, 8 a.m. in the morning. Like, what's going on? He's like, nothing.

I'm just going to say hi. It makes my heart drop. Yeah. It's so crazy. I just feel, yeah. But you're really fast at DMs.

Because when we were DMing, I was like, wait, you were kind of bad. Because I'm actually very, like, I also get anxiety. But I was like, oh, well, you were pretty quick at answering. Like, you're pretty good at seeing them. Yeah. I think I'm better. I'm better at DMs because, like, there's only, like, usually two or one, like, unread. Like, at the top. Okay. Okay. So you keep those warm. I'm better at that. Yeah. Who is the last? And I messaged you first. So I feel like. Oh, yeah. I would never message anyone first. Like, Tana, anybody. I'm always just assuming influencers are very busy. So unless, like, someone. Yeah.

Asks me first. Otherwise, I'm like, oh, I don't want to like ask even guests. I'm like, I'm scared It's so funny because in my brain like I was I was thinking I was like, okay Like I I read it. I was like, okay, I'm gonna get back this but in my mind. Okay. Wait, like I

we're going to film soon. And I know like, I'm going to say yes to these dates. I'm like, I need to reply right now. So far the thought in my mind to like, wait a second. It was okay. I loved it. I'm so glad you did too, because like, I think you texted me or DM me on like Sunday. And I only had like two days because like I'm doing live shows. So I'm making all these rehearsals. You're going to Tokyo, like we're stocking up too. And it was just like, happened to be this week that we had like two times available. So I was like, thank God it worked out. Cause like

I moved everything today too. I was like, wait, we have to get this in. So it was perfect timing. You were really great. You were really flexible, which I appreciate. I'm usually like, I don't know. I usually have free time like every day. I usually do.

Yeah, and you're the first. You're always the first.

I get that way too, actually. And it's also like less anxiety like walking in when it's like full of people. Like you get to slowly see it build up and everyone says hi to you. Right, right. Because they're like – they're the ones coming in so they say hi to everyone. That is so tea actually. When you're at a party, do you ever get – do you get socially awkward ever? No.

Or no. If I didn't have a few drinks, then yeah. Oh, okay. So drinking helps you. Because I was like – I know for me at parties, I'm the most awkward person to like say hi and bye. Like when do you say hi and when do you say bye to someone? Like how long is too long to talk to somebody? I say hi – well, I mean –

I mean, it's always like a, hey, hi, what's up? And like that's that with like 99% of people there. And that's it? Yeah. Like a minute. I'm literally just hanging out with my close friends there. Yeah. And then I never say bye because I don't know. I hate saying bye. It is awkward. That's what I'm saying. I think in general saying bye is awkward. But then some people consider it rude. Like I would rather just leave a party and be like, I'm not saying anything. I've hosted a party like a couple years ago where it wasn't turning out how I really wanted it to.

I think this was before I maybe I, this is before I even knew Johnny. Um, and when people came up to me and told me bye, I was like, Oh my God, people are leaving. Every time someone came up and said bye, it made me anxious. I was like, no, stay. Yeah. Yeah. So in my mind, like, I feel like it's more respectful to just like secretly leave. I think the same thing. And people are like, no, that's rude. Unless it was like a Superbowl party and there's like 20 people there, but like at a party, like, like, you know, a house party, it's like, whatever. Are you going to a lot of Superbowl parties? Um,

Did you go to one this year? Well, I've never like watched a full football game before. So I would go for like the snacks. Like they usually have a lot of good snacks. Whose house, like who would host a Super Bowl party? I don't think I know one influencer who has. I don't know. I think I would be down to like. Do you want? I would be down to take it. Yeah. I like hosting. Like it's so weird because when I was like growing up, like I always like, I always like looked up to the popular kids. I always thought about like having a friend group. I always wanted to like be like,

like i wanted to be like a host and have cool snacks and like like have sleepovers and stuff maybe i had that here and there but like it wasn't like to where i felt fulfilled and like me being like an adult and like having you know friends that i care about and um my own place now like it's what it's like all i want to do i want to have like a friendsgiving i want to have like a white elephant i want to have all that stuff we that's

That's so cool. I wonder where that stems from because I guess just as a kid you wanted it and you just didn't have it as much as you wanted. I'm just like – I'm not good socially in a weird way. Like I've gotten a lot better throughout the years. But like when I first moved out to LA, like I felt like – I mean even like watching videos back of me.

How different you were. Yeah. Yeah. I've learned so much. I know we always talk about it, but when we met in Reality House, which met is such a loose term, because I watched it back. I think the last time you were here, I watched it back. And I was like, and it was what? We only filmed like what, two days or three days or something like that? That version of me, I don't even recognize him. You were just so, like we had no interaction, like zero interaction the whole time, except you voting me constantly out.

every single time. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. And there's like maybe four clips of you being like, Trisha, Trisha, Trisha. I was like, damn, okay. I think I voted like once. But we never talked. I'm sorry. I don't resonate with that, Jake, anyways. I love you so much.

gotta leave and you were like close to the boys in the house but I also came to that house very volatile that was like the worst year of my life I was in like three mental hospitals that year I remember coming to that house like guns blazing I was just like very a mess but um but yeah it was just so funny because like I don't even it's just like stressful in general going on in like a reality you've done other reality shows as well have you like you tried them yeah more like

TV stuff. I've never done like a YouTuber one, like especially Ken and JC. I didn't know them. You knew them, right? You were like... At that time, very loosely. Like I think I met them maybe twice. Wait, really? So why did you... You knew the other boy. You knew another boy? Who's the other one that's with the C? Connor? Crawford. Crawford. Yeah, yeah. Just very like loosely, very loosely. I got to know everyone like more of like a couple years in, but I was more so like I wasn't like...

Like that close with them at that time. You were like so quiet in the house I remember but then I was so scared to talk like like that version of me I just feel like yeah, I I was so socially awkward I I just never had that moment growing up where I really could learn to socialize that well and I just like I feel like it kind of like isolated me because I never had the time to practice but being out here and going out and

having close friends really like made it uh easier yeah do you get any anxiety even like your close ones like tar johnny carrington do you ever get anxiety like i gotta hang out with them uh no like we're so close it's almost like we're all siblings okay okay so you never get anxiety you just get it happy no like it's it's so past that like we we know each other so well like it's so it's so close there's no like um tension or anything like it's like all uh

I don't know. It's like a friendship. Like, it's friendships that I've always would have wanted. Like, it's awesome. That's so cool. That's how I feel with us. You're like the cool emo kid I wish I was in high school. Like, we had one that was really cool and he shopped at Hot Topic because it was, like, so expensive. And I just remember being like, oh, my God, that kid is so cool. And I wanted to be him, I think, more than his friend because he didn't have any friends. But I was like, oh, I really want to be this guy. And that's who you are, I feel. Like, if I was, like, a male version on YouTube, it'd be you. I wish I expressed myself, like, more when I was growing up. But I really didn't, like –

I really didn't express myself that much until I was out here. Interesting. So you just kind of opened up and it was, reality house was 2019. So it's only been a few years since you've opened up. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I would say, yeah, that time I was like kind of figuring it out, I would say. Yeah. But yeah. And we did an eating challenge. We had to eat a hundred year old egg, a century old egg. Oh my God. Do you remember it? You know, I had nightmares about that. Was it? But some people said it's like a delicacy in some countries. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. It's considered like nice food. Well, same with the, what's it called? Uni? Uni.

Oh, is that what you eat? Uni? Yeah, he loves uni. The little... What is it? Sea urchin. Sea urchin, yeah. Have you had it? Yeah. You don't like it? Uh-uh. He loves uni. I would love to love all foods, but that one might take some time. Have you tried it in a shooter version, like in a glass, like an uni shooter? I had it like...

And it was like a little seafood mix. Like it was a little like a platter of seafood and I just like took a little spoon of it. I was like – It wasn't your – he loves it. It's hard to find. It's not everywhere. I want to love it. I want to love all foods. The only foods that – well, I guess that's one. But I usually only say olives. But you don't like olives? Mm-mm. What is about it texture?

I think it's a flavor. I hate that it squirts when you chew down on it. It's like eating an eyeball. Yeah, Tara and Carrington, they love dirty margaritas. Oh, no, no, no. And I take one sip and I'm like, get that away from me. I can't do that either. Let's take pickles and salt too. You don't like pickles? No, I saw one at 7-Eleven. I almost got it. I don't like pickles. I hate them. But I was like, ooh, I feel like going to 7-Eleven and getting the plastic pickle would have been like a serve. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Do you like them?

They work sometimes, but usually I honestly like a lot of my things plain, like cheeseburgers. Like I would get them from like restaurants and stuff. And nowadays I'm just like, get that.

Like lettuce and stuff? Yeah. I just feel like it's just taking up space. Same. I get like a kid's one. It's taking away the flavor of my burger. But that's what I say with like sauces. Like I don't like sauces on theme. You like them. And I'm like, I do like to dip them, but it's just so much better just to eat the nugget plain. Like I just like the taste of a nugget, you know? That's fair. No, I agree. It's kind of like a half and half for me. Like not every single one's a dip. I do like it plain a lot. But I don't know.

I do like like secret sauce, you know, like fry sauce, like the orange sauce. Every place has like their own sauce. Yeah. You should go to the Bang & Buns and get their orange sauce. It's so good. Wait, like their secret fry sauce? They have like a secret sauce. I totally, I think I have, honestly. With this, okay, because I actually hate it. Well, you inspired me because I saw that you're eating it and it reminded me, I was like, oh my God, Bang & Buns. Because I remember when they were kind of like a startup. Which is crazy. Yeah, you DM me. It's kind of cool that you're like on stories. I don't think of you as someone who watches Instagram stories, but sometimes you'll be like, oh my God, I love Bang & Buns.

buns. I'm like, wait, what? First of all, you're watching my story. It's so crazy. But two, it's like banging buns. You said you remember in a tent. Yes. Yeah. That's how they started. And I was so shocked when you talked about it. Um, it, they're so good too. It's like, it's like, uh, is their main item still kind of like a, it's kind of like a hot dog shape. Is it?

Or like a big tender and like a hot dog shape. Kind of like a hoagie shape. Yeah, kind of like that. It's so good. And it has like sauce. And I don't love sauce. Like everyone else, I don't like sauce. But the bangamon sauce is so good. Like it's amazing. I'm obsessed. They have really good smash burgers. And it's kind of close to you. I love smash burgers. Have you had theirs? No, I should. I was looking on Postmates and I was like, oh. I mean, usually if something's like a chicken place, I'll stick to chicken. Because like I'll be with my friends and they'll be like,

I didn't like the tacos from Jack in the Box. I'm like, well, it's like because you got tacos from Jack in the Box. Who gets those? Call that person out. Who gets a taco from Jack in the Box? I don't remember who, but like, you know, I never like, I always get something that's like in theme, like with the place. If it's like a burger place, then I'm going to get a burger. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Which is crazy because like Bangin' Buns is a chicken place, but the Smash Burgers are very good.

good yeah no you're inspiring me to try it that's the only reason why i didn't get it oh my god i would go like an hour we drive an hour to get it now they'll deliver out here because they never used to but i can call them up and i'm like can you deliver here they're gonna do my show they're gonna bring their truck out here they're really nice they're so nice there's like a group of guys they're like young they're like 25 like all these guys that started it and they're like killing it now and it's yeah i wish i had steak in it because i love banging buttons more than anything in the whole world steak like uh a p like a you know like my hungry

I was thinking of steak. I was thinking steak in it. Well, what do you do? Like a steak burger? Like a burger.

It's burgers, kind of like a steak. Yeah, yeah. They have brisket now, too, at Bing and Buns. They just started that. I've never had brisket. I don't know what that is. Brisket's good. Is it? It's like pulled pork, kind of, I think. I've never had it. But I see what you mean. Like, there's a lot of, like, restaurants that I think, like, ooh. Because I feel like I'm such a foodie. I feel like I know what would work. If I tried something that's kind of, like, relatively new, I would, I feel like I would trust myself and...

Putting some share in it. But I've never put share in anything. What would you do if you could? Like a place? Yeah. Like even if it's like McDonald's, like something big, like if it was something huge, like still, what would you do? Mine would be Bang & Buns for sure. Okay.

There's this restaurant that's, it used to be out here, but I think it went away because of COVID. It's called Freddy's, Freddy's Steakburgers. I don't remember this one. And I really like it. It's not in California. I feel like it would work like anywhere because it's so yummy. Wait, where is it? In Kansas? Yeah, yeah. But it's like, they're like steakburgers. It's kind of like really, it's like a burger, but it kind of tastes like steaky and it's really flat and it's kind of crispy. It's like a Wagyu burger?

Or just like a steak burger. Just like a steak burger. I don't know. It sounds so good. It's so good. Yeah. And their fries are really thin. I like that a lot. Did you ever try, did you guys have Culver's? I have never tried it. Wait, wait. Did they? In the middle. They had them in Illinois. I don't know if they would have had them in Kansas. Where was I recently where I was like, I should try this. I should think about it. Yeah, they don't have them here in LA. Oh, it was when I was in Colorado. Did you try it? No. We went to the Waffle House. Oh, yeah.

yeah i saw your tiktoks there yeah because okay so so like in my video i was like thinking because like whenever we go on these trips like everything's filmed and in my mind i was like okay what's like the funniest place we could go to and the waffle house just sounded hilarious but it's also really yummy like it sounds like you know i liked it a lot wait so was that a content trip that you guys went on yeah so we went to the stanley hotel it's like a haunted hotel oh my god what did you find any actual hauntings

I'm so, is it, what's it called? Superstitious. I don't know. I, it's, it's hard for me to, um, it's hard for me to adjust and like, think about ghosts. I'm, I'm, I,

I'm, I've always been known as the person that doesn't really believe in ghosts though. Oh, you're like a non-believer. Yeah. But like, everyone's always known that about me. Um, I don't either. Maybe it's Midwest thing. I don't believe in it, but I like to say that in case, cause they say ghosts don't appear to non-believers. I'm like, I don't believe in them. Cause I would freak out if I saw ghosts. Yeah, true. I feel like it doesn't help my case. Cause if I don't believe, then they're probably, they don't want to waste their time with me anyways. So did you see anything, feel anything? Oh, we heard some like knocks and stuff. Uh,

But Sam and Kobe, they're way better at it than me. Is that what they do now? Are they like co-setters? Yeah, they've been doing it for a couple years, I believe. Really? Did they rebrand? Maybe like four years, actually. That's like every video is usually an investigation, I believe. What? What were they known for when you were in their group? Exploring.

Which is kind of like the same thing, but it wasn't usually ghost theme. I think they kind of like slowly adjusted to that. Well, they got arrested for trespassing, and I think that's what kind of changed things up, I believe. Oh, are they a little dubious? I don't know anything about them really, other than I know you came from that. They're really cool. They're from Kansas too, so. Is that, okay. Are they like kind of dubious though? What's that mean? Like.

Are they a little bit – how would you decide dubious? Not problematic. Dubious is like a little bit mischievous. They're pretty unproblematic. Oh, they are? Okay. Yeah. You never hear anything about them in a good way again. In a good way. They're pretty down to earth. Sam and Kobe. Yeah. Yeah. They're – yeah. I don't think they have – they don't have any controversies or anything. They're good lads online. Okay. Are you a fan of One Direction?

I was a Justin Bieber kid. Wait, really? But all my friends were One Directioners. Did you have your hair like Justin Bieber? I did. I did. Wait, that's so cute. I always looked up to him because I was like, well, I feel like all my crushes are always guys because it's the idea of like I want to be them. I was always like, oh my God, I want to be like Justin Bieber. Wait, that's so interesting. But I feel like that's with my friends too because all my guy friends, they love One Direction. I think that's what they think too. They're like,

And now they're all like, you know, influencers. Like they're like public figures. I think that they looked up to these people growing up and became that. Because like all my guy friends, they're all like. Into guys.

guys yeah and yeah exactly wait that's so interesting because i mean i like there's girls i wanted to be like but when i like think about i guess that's true i guess when i think about guys that i have crushes on like i'd wish i could be them yeah like gerard way or like jonathan bailey or something i guess i wish i could be them maybe that's what it is yeah i guess that's what a crush is ultimately right is like you i guess so like you're intrigued by like who they are and what they like yeah i guess that makes sense oh my god so it was justin bieber who else

Justin Bieber, he was pretty much like the man. That one lasted so long. Were you wearing purple hoodies? Yeah, I was doing it all. I feel like every guy my age was doing the same. I don't know. There's so many people with the flippy hair. My recent guy crush is definitely Villa Vallo. That guy from the Van Hymn. Oh, okay.

Oh, okay. That's like your number. I want to see what he looks like. He's like, what are you styling yourself like him? No, he's just like, I just like think he's just a really pretty dude. I like the name too. Yeah. Yeah. He's Finnish. Have you ever tried to DM him or be friends with him? No. Cause he's like, he's pretty like grown now. I don't think he's like, I don't even think he runs his accounts. Like, like I love like a lot of his, uh, songs from the two thousands. Cause I didn't, I like, I,

I don't know. I was probably like four when they were coming out or something. So I discovered them for the first time like recently. And like how? Who introduced you? My friend Scuff. He was my older mate. Oh, okay. So he's like, you got to listen to this band. It's so good. Yeah. And he was a One Directioner. Really? Yeah. I was looking up sounds for us to do on TikTok today and I'm like, there's like a One Direction sound right now. And it's like from, I don't know. It's like America's Got Talent, but it's not. It's like Brins Got Talent or X Factor or whatever show they were on. Have you seen the one where they're doing like a...

Coldplay song? I think so. Tara was a huge directioner, so I did see a lot of stuff through her. I'm just getting into it now, too. I think I missed 2009 to 2015, so I think I'm getting into it. Justin Bieber I missed as well. Obviously, he was too old or something. But do you keep up with him? Not so much. I feel like I'm so MIA with what's going on now. Really? I don't really know...

anything about pop culture like at all I do know that I do know like there's a lot of big uh pop people like Chapel Roan and uh Sabrina Carpenter but like

I don't know much, like, outside. I don't really know what's going on. You know the big ones, the two biggest artists in the world. Like, I know them, but that's it. Do you know their songs? Can you sing a Jabba Rone song? I know, like, Hot To Go and Pink Pony Club. Okay, you do know. I feel like no matter where you go, you'll definitely hear those songs. But I just don't know, like, you know, like, any drama or anything like that. You don't keep up. No, I did. You know, like, I did for the longest time. But I don't know. Like, within the past year, I just...

Now I don't know. I try to like – I don't know. Like just everything that like it's like if it's drama or like even like a lot of like horror movies make me anxious to like indulge in. Because – oh, because you think it like you'll manifest or something? I don't know. It just like makes me more anxious and freaks me out a little, which it never used to do that. But I just think it's just because I've had like an audience change and like my life's just been differently that –

I don't know. I just like see everything differently. And now like movies I watch will be like rom-coms or like stuff like that. Well, I do like thrillers. I was going to say, you were explaining a scary one you just watched the other day. I do. I still do like a lot of scary movies. What was the demonic one? Late Night with the Devil. But oh my God. Wait, that's not a rom-com. No, yeah. No, it's not. No, I do like horror movies. But there's a lot of days where I'll be chilling. I'll be like...

I can't do this today. Like, I can't watch a horror movie today. Like, it's not often. Like, a lot of times, like, I like light-hearted things. Like, name one light-hearted movie. Because the other one you told me was also scary. The one- Yeah, yeah. Hmm.

What's a lighthearted movie that I've seen recently? You love rom-coms. I'll just put on the Minions a lot. Oh, you love a Minion. Okay. You love a Minion. I've never seen them. They sound annoying to me. I have little kids and I still can't watch Minions. They're so funny. They make me laugh. But I also don't watch movies too often. I watch just a lot of YouTube. Lucas and Jacob, that's always lighthearted. It's fun. I watch a lot of them. I love that you watch them. I put a SpongeBob on a lot. Oh, my gosh.

Oh, my God. That's so funny. Just like the cartoon. Yeah. Okay. Do you watch TV shows like Netflix or anything? Yeah. Yeah. I'll watch like – well, I don't watch too much TV shows. Like Menendez Brothers or Bridgerton. I did watch that one. The Menendez one? Yeah. Yeah. I did watch that one. And that's like a true crime. Yeah. So like you don't mind those? Those don't scare you? I don't usually like watch too much true crime stuff, but that case is –

is really interesting because like i feel like empathy for them so yeah oh that's interesting yeah that's the majority they said they might get out by thanksgiving is what they're trying to do yeah that'd be crazy like i i never thought that there would be a biopic about them so like i was like i have to watch this were you familiar with them before yeah before like before um i feel like they're really heavily talked about recently and i would like kind of looked into it and

I like totally understood their story. Yeah. So I was super psyched about it having a biopic and everyone like kind of like agreeing. Yeah. Do you watch them? Do you watch a lot of movies like based on people's real lives? Like music ones? I think they're pretty interesting. I do think they're pretty interesting. I really like that Motley Crue one, The Dirt. Oh, yeah. That one's super sick. I actually like that one too. I didn't even care about Motley Crue but that one was pretty good with Machine Gun Kelly. Yeah. That one was good. I love biopics. Me too. Honestly. Because if you're a biopic fan,

if you know nothing like I didn't know anything about Queen and then I watched the one with Rami Malek and I was like I love them you know what I mean yeah I didn't watch that one again I fell asleep did you watch Elvis did you see that one yes yes I did yeah oh that one was a lot of fun there's new ones coming out what Timothee Chalamet is in one about Bob Dylan I know nothing about Bob

Dylan. Me neither. I think Johnny does. I think Johnny does. He seems like he would. He also just seems like he knows a lot about a lot of things. He knows everything. About music and... It's actually insane. Like, he has so much space in his brain. Yeah, yeah. He knows everything. He's like a dictionary for pop culture. But you are very smart, too. I think both of you is, like, surprisingly smart because I think you always come across as very, like, playful. Like, on purpose, I know you do, but it's just, like, you're actually, like, super smart. Like, the stuff you, like, think about and what you analyze and how you think about things. I'm like, wait, you're so smart about it. I don't know. Like, uh...

Whenever I'm online, like I know like the parts of me that I feel like people find like interesting. Like, you know, I'll talk about Monster a lot and I'll talk about like that.

The energy drink or the show? Energy drinks and like, you know, me always trying to quit smoking and fast food. Just because like I feel like me, like being me is more boring. That's not true. I think of all the qualities in me that are maybe interesting and I just emphasize those. You put it online because you think the ones like that people don't see you think it's boring. Yeah, yeah. Because, you know, when I'm with my friends, like it's not like it's.

super jumpy and stuff. We're just like casually talking. And that's how I usually am. Like I'll meet people and be like, they'll, they'll be like, you're not like how you are in your videos. Like, yeah, because like, like I'm not like,

on yeah i feel like you are i feel like you're very like the same there are some people who are like completely different people like i do think david works like a completely different person off camera but like you i think are so similar again i haven't like hung out with you but even like on like 7-eleven we didn't film going in there but you're kind of the same unless it's just like we're only i feel like i feel like i do have kind of like this like

like this giddy feeling whenever I'm doing anything fun. And I feel like that's what people see a lot. Like when I'm doing food, cause it's not like a fake version of me. It's just like more like my giddy. You're excited about it. Yeah. Yeah. And cause I only film stuff when I'm actually having fun. So like usually when the camera's on, I'm feeling giddy. I actually had so much fun at seven 11 cause there's not one person I know that like seven 11 food like that. So I was like, when you got the nachos, I was like,

This is my best friend right here because honestly, I love 7-Eleven nachos and everyone thinks it's the most disgusting thing. No, I love – They're so good. It's like the emphasis on salt and chemicals. It's great. And they're clean now. Like they're really clean. They used to be kind of like nasty because the cheese would come down. True. But they had those clean boxes. Yeah, the containers. I felt – they were like bougie kind of. It was like a to-go container for nachos and the cheese area was so cleaned up. Like it was actually like –

really bougie and it was the most fun I had and then like you had never had a taquito and I was super excited for taquitos because your friend was like Trish loves taquitos and I was like oh my god someone knows I love taquitos that's so cool so yeah I grew up like eating a lot of the hot dogs but I never I never touched base with the taquitos really oh my god those it was just it really was like one of the funnest clubs was like wait this is like old school just like fun eating and stuff like that well you have a wide vocabulary because you are smart but one word I don't know that you use all the time is chungus what is a chungus?

So it's like, okay. So it was like this meme in 2018 or 19. I don't know. It's an outdated meme that's not funny. Okay. But that's what makes it funny to me. It's just like – there's just like this version of Bugs Bunny that people just called Chungus. Oh. And there's no like definition for the word Chungus. Like it just – people just said that's Chungus. And the moment – like I mean it's so unfunny now that –

That's like, we think it's ironically funny. So we just started saying it again. So we didn't like make it up. We're just like reviving this meme that's been like outdated. Never heard it before ever in my life. Yeah. Yeah. I don't know. Like what's the chungus in this room?

I don't even know. Like, I know Chungus is the rabbit. Like, Chungus is Bugs Bunny. But you're always tweeting about Chungus. Yeah, we just, like, throw in everything. Oh, okay. So you don't know, like, the definition. No, like, it's just, like, the word just sounds so funny. I'm just like, I don't know. Like, it's like saying, I don't know, like, I don't know, what's an old meme? Like, my name Jeff. Like, trying to make that funny again. Oh, my God. That one was awful.

I hated that one. Like, it's not funny. You're trying to make it happen. Yeah, we're trying to bring it back. Well, you're kind of the king of, like, bringing back weird things. The ooh-ah sound that you're doing now on TikTok. Where, why, how? Like, I'm not good at thinking of ideas. And I'm not good at, like, thinking of new ideas, like, all the time. But I could do the same thing over and over again. And I think that's just what happens. Like, with that sound, the uh.

I'll just like do it 20 times. And love it. People love it. Yeah. I don't know. You posted it six times the day we did ours. You had like six other ones. Oh, really? Yeah. There's like five right after. And it's like, wait. You just love it? I just like to overindulge in like one thing.

specifically at a time. Like I don't like like a bunch of things at once. I like one thing at a time. Like if it's like music, I like one artist at a time. Like and then I'll obsess over like I'll go like

Deep into it. Who does the original sound to that? What is that from? It's a Snow Strippers song. I knew it was trending a couple months ago, but I made a TikTok and I didn't know what sound to use. It was on my recommended sounds. I'll use this. Then I did it again. This one's recommended. I'll just do it again. It's your sound. I'm just going to keep doing this. When does it stop? When does the trend die?

Just like when I feel like it's enough. When you're over it. Yeah. Are you going to do it in Japan or are you going to just do – That would be a good idea. Just do it. It hasn't crossed my mind but like you saying that made me like now it's locked in. I also want to know like where you're going to stand in front of. Like your ones in Paris in front of the Eiffel Tower, they got like 10 million views of you just eating in front of the Eiffel Tower. What are you going to do in Japan to top it? Whatever I guess is like the –

recognizable thing there. I know the crossing, the Shibuya crossing is very popular. Are you going to do it there? That would be a good idea. Just like eating something, eating sushi. They have a lot of fun looking foods there. It just looks fun in general. I love,

I love Quentin's series. She's like on a TV show now. She's like really blown up because I wanted to clap with her. She's so funny. Like she's so witty. Like sometimes people are so witty it scares me. She's – no. She's so good. She's so on. Like so pretty. So smart. Like her little cooking series and stuff like that. I saw her at a shoot we did and I remember looking at her and just being like, oh my god, that girl is so gorgeous. She's just awesome like all around. I love her. She's busy. She cosplayed as SpongeBob and that was like –

Like, I... Yeah, I saw it on my recommended on YouTube and it's, like, it was, like, one of the funniest videos I've seen recently. Was it, like, a square or, like, a sexy Spongebob? It, like, she was, like, it was, like, MUA, like, full, like, Spongebob head with Larry, Larray. Larray lives out here. We see him all the time. Yeah. We literally run into him at, like, a food place. Like, we'll, like, go out to brunch and, like, he'll be coming out. I, like, love him, too. He's awesome. I love both of them. We see him at, like, Tari. He's super sweet all the time and I love Quinn as well, but I know she got really busy and I was, like, ugh, I just... They're my...

I love them so much. I think they're so cool. I just love that new age of influencers, that these people are just actually entertaining and fun. Yeah. There's so many people that I've came across. Well, I mean, there are people that's drama for sure, but most of the people that I've came across are so nice and cool. That's what I'm saying. You're a little group of people that you do – it's like you guys just are actually entertaining and you don't rely on –

even though I know that's what I rely on, but I'm like, in general, I love that. That's like, I think I definitely like rely on the collabs with my friends. I think people love our dynamic. Like a lot of people tell me and John and they love like our dynamic, especially just because we're so like opposites, but similar in a way. So I think that like, yeah, I think that I'm definitely my, my, I feel like the entertainment value of me is very driven by, um,

going back and forth with my friends yeah yes i think that's like a cool aspect but i also do think like you by yourself like it is interesting to just see you by yourself because you're very talkative and you're very like just different you know what i mean thank you yeah because i think in your duos i would always think of you as like the more quiet one and in the ones but then it depends who's video like usually usually uh whoever's uh video it is is kind of doing most of the talking you called it steering the boat yeah steering the boat yeah yeah exactly you're like i

I let them steer the boat and I'm like, oh, that's kind of like tea actually. Like when you go onto someone else's video. Yeah. Sometimes people will be like, oh, like why isn't Jake like talking that much? Like he's not even like trying in this video, but it's because like, it's like in my videos, like I, I,

I do, like, I try to do at least, like, 80% of the talking just because, like, I always, like, there to be a direction if, like, I'm filming and, like, yeah. Yeah, like, not feeling the pressure. Well, you've done some, like, random collabs. I think after WeCollab, I remember you just all, like, did, like, in a good way, like, just ones that, like, were outside of your front group. So you did, like, the Zach Sang show. Yeah. You did one with Hasan, like, so random. Like, I was like, wait, how did these come about? Because... I know, um...

Do you know Frogan? Oh, yeah. Yes, yeah. I know that she said that she had the idea to have us turn Hasan emo. So that's how that came about. Okay. I always know there's like a girly pop involved somewhere because I'm like, how did this collab happen? It was good. And did you know his content before? Were you like familiar? You kind of were just like. I've seen it like here and there. Like I know he's very influential and I know he's very handsome. Okay.

Is he as handsome in person? So handsome. Like I kept complimenting him. I was like, I think I'm complimenting him too much. It is so interesting. When you see someone that's like beautiful in person. That's how it was when I saw Quan. We did the face shoot together. And I remember – and I couldn't even say anything because I was just like, this person is like really beautiful. And like what do you say when it becomes too weird? You know what I mean? Yeah, yeah. And they're also probably like, I know. I hear this all the time on the internet. But you're like, wow. There's just certain people in person that you're just like, wow. You just look like important. Yeah.

Yeah. Yeah. So you were doing like emo trend because you did Larray emo. Who else would you turn emo? What other influencer would you think about or would you want besides Lucas and Jacob? It's so funny because people will ask me to turn them emo, but like it's always like 99% Johnny because like Johnny, like I don't wear like the makeup. Like I don't have the scent. Like it's pretty much like a replication of like Johnny's look. So people sometimes will ask me and be like,

I'll be like, that's, you know, that's all Johnny. Like, I don't know how to do any of this stuff. What about styling it as you? Like, if someone's like, I want to do a Jake Webber makeover, who would you give it to? Ooh, you know what? I would give it to Johnny because I thought about us, like, switching aesthetics. Yeah. Because, like, I feel like we both have a very...

I don't know. Like, I feel like you could like kind of like think of how we dress. Like if you just like, you know, I feel like, I feel like we're easy to think about. Like if you think about how we dress, like it's easy to pop in your brain. I like, I just, I wear a lot of like ripped shirts and like bell bottom jeans and boots. And John is like black jean jacket, emo band tee, skinny jeans, boots. Like I like, I know, I probably know what he's wearing right now. And it's probably that outfit. But would he ever wear a crop you think?

I don't know. I'm wearing a crop. I know. You always wear a crop. It's very you. That's what I'm saying. Would he – like if you just did one of his Mike Chemical romances. I think he would. I think he would. He dressed as Tara. He was like in full glam. Oh, okay. So he's into it. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I definitely think he would. That would be a fun one. How about one that's like not in your friend group who would get a good Jake makeover? Ooh.

Maybe someone that is so far from it. Yeah, I'm trying to think who would be like a good. Because you don't watch like a lot of TikTok. You said you don't watch like TikTokers or stuff like that. No, yeah. I do watch TikTok, but a lot of it's like it's not like pop culture TikTok. Like it's not a lot like a lot of people. Like it's a lot of like, I don't know. There's a lot of like food stuff on there because that's a big interest of mine. But yeah, I don't know. I'm not sure.

I told you you should do the jelly bean sweets collab. I know. To see the big. I know. You have to do big bites. Can you do like. Like.

I think I could. I think I could. And can you eat fast? Because that's her. She does big bites and eats fast. I eat too fast. You can eat fast. Yeah. I eat fast in general. Like I always am the first to finish my food. Okay. That would be so – it's hard for me to eat fast. I think people think I assume I would eat fast because I eat a lot. But I'm like, no, I eat slow. But I love a lot of food. But people think I can eat fast. I can't. It's like not a talent. For me, like it's like when I start, it's like swallow, next bite, swallow, next bite, swallow, next bite. Do you chew? No.

Yeah, but... I never chew sometimes. Sometimes I forget to chew. I started to realize that, yeah, I don't actually chew as much as I should. People pointed out to me sometimes in videos when I eat spaghetti, like, oh my God, she didn't even chew. Like, I swallow it whole. No, I realized that for myself. Like, I don't know. Sometimes, like, I'll swallow the food and be like, whoa. I think that, like...

Like, it's – like, I think I only bit this once. Yeah. Like, did I even, like, savor this? Like – I guess that's why you beat me in our final competition because it was timed. That's fair. That's fair. Which I knew I couldn't get it down fast enough. But I – if you rewatch it back, I kind of think I should have won because I think they, like, counted that I, like – because I think you, like, spit out some or something or you, like, went – I don't know. Something was, like, I feel like this could have been a recount. But maybe one day we can do – No, that's fair. No. Yeah, yeah. I'd be down. Maybe it was something that we actually liked, though. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Not – not –

Not a hundred year old egg. Yeah. Your mom loved that she, like after we did our last collab, she commented on my Instagram and I was like, wait, is this like, because she got, her last name is Weber. Yeah. So I saw a comment, I was like, wait, so she, I know your sister's an influencer, but your mom is?

I would say of some sorts. She likes to post a lot and she does her own thing and people watch her and she has a lot of her own interests. She loves Adidas. She loves roller skating. What is up with the Adidas? She's sponsored or what? She just loves it. I think that's probably where I got...

How I am. Like, I indulge in, like, one thing and – She's just like, I'm only going to show off of the days that are Adidas. Yeah, that's the only thing she wears. Like, I don't think you'd ever see her in Nike. Why don't you give her a Jake Webber makeover? That would be crazy. You think she would wear your stuff? I bet she would. Yeah, I bet she would. That would be so cute when you go back. Do you go back for the holidays? Yeah, yeah, I usually do. Like Christmas Day, you're usually back there. Yeah. But, like, it's such a busy day. My flight's always delayed. There's a thousand people. Oh.

A thousand's an understatement. Like 10,000 people in the airport. But yeah. And do you fly into, is there a Kansas airport? Do you go to like O'Hare? Yeah, there's one and there's like only like three terminals. Okay, so

Okay, so that's cute. It's not as hectic there. Yeah, no, not at all. Oh, my God. You could have like a lifetime. Do you ever watch like Christmas movies, like Hallmark Christmas movies? You know, I didn't really care for them, but this year, I'm holiday spirit. I'm locking in. You have to watch them. I'm going to watch them all. I did watch like the Claymation ones, you know, like Rudolph. Oh, yeah. Those are good. Those are so cute. And I need to watch Alvin and the Chipmunks. Is that a Christmas movie? It is. Is it? Yeah, because last Thanksgiving, my friends were watching it, and they were like, oh,

Yeah, it was, I believe. There's so, there's like a Lindsay Lohan one. There's another one coming out this year, but she does like a holiday movie each year and it's so good. There's one where she's like an influencer and she like hits her head and forgets she's an influencer and then she goes back to the small town. It's always a big place in a small town. That's where I was getting it because it's always like someplace like Kansas that they go back and it's always like a big wig from LA or like a rock star from LA and he goes back and falls in love with like the girl who sells Christmas trees. She goes, oh, you're a rock star. You wouldn't like me, but then like, no, I do like you. Isn't that like the plot of like the Hannah Montana movie? I've never seen it. Is it?

Is it? Okay, it's the same thing then. Yeah, because I think she went back to the farm to like get away from her famous life. I think she fell in love with the cowboy. I need to watch it again. That's your story. Because I feel like that's every Hallmark Christmas movie. And it's kind of cute because then it's just like, oh man, I don't need that like fast-paced life. I would love a Christmas movie. I think I'll watch everyone this year to be honest. Yeah. Because they always have a good ending. They're always so sweet themed. I know. I love that about the holidays. It's just like, you know, fun. Yeah, we were talking about that. Like, I don't know. I feel like

- Cozy. - No matter like what it is or what anyone's celebrating, I feel like everyone tries to have that holiday cheer. They all try to be like in good spirits. And I feel like that's like what's really awesome about it. - Yeah, 'cause like I feel like the rest of the year is like just so like,

It's like a rat race. Everyone's just trying to do the most. And you're just like, holidays, everyone just gives up. Everyone's like, end of the year, let's just eat. We're going to try, guys. We're going to try. Yeah. Like, let's just – we'll try in January. That's what I was feeling. And also, like, yeah, the holidays, like, I just, like, eat the snacks I want. Like, there's no pressure. Like, everyone's just like, you know, we're just going to relax and not think about anything and try to have fun and enjoy ourselves. I like that. Yeah. I love that, too. Favorite Christmas snack at the grocery store, like Ralph's? Oh, my God. Oh, yeah.

Oh, okay. Okay. If we're talking like super like Christmas themed, maybe like the, you know, like the pretzel rods, like with the, with the, is it yogurt over it? And then it has like the red and green sprinkles. Those are so good. Anything like covered pretzels. I love those. But I would say like at Christmas, like, I mean, during Christmas, like pecan pie.

Oh my God. Pecan pie. That's what we always have on Thanksgiving. We do pecan and pumpkin. It's so good. That's what I was going to tell you earlier about crumble. I got sidetracked. Crumble, the week of Thanksgiving, is coming out with all little pies. It's like a flight of pies. Really? No cookies that week. I know they've been just throwing a pie here and there. Yeah. This is a flight of pies. Pecan's one of them. They have a chocolate silk one, and they're little mini pies that you can get in the box. All the Thanksgiving week is available until that Thursday. Wait, that would be so good to bring to a potluck. Yeah. Okay, if you do your Friendsgiving. Well, you have to do it that week because it only comes out that week, but that's what

you should do. Oh, true. You're right. I got another one for Friendsgiving. We're doing one for our Patreon is I'm bringing a DiGiorno. They have a Thanksgiving pizza. Wait, I heard about that. Yeah. Wait, wait. No, no, I haven't tried it. I know that they, I don't, I think that they made it online only last year. Is it like in stores? I think it's in stores now. Okay. Last year, I think it was like a, you could only order it from the website for like a little bit. So I never got to it. You can go like to Ralph's today and get it. Did you see the fat Sal's Thanksgiving sandwich? No. What is in there? Doughnuts.

the entirety of a Thanksgiving banquet in a sandwich. Closest fat house to us is probably Topanga, huh? Mm.

Or is there one closer? Oh, yeah, you're right. There's one in Hollywood, too. Yeah, I love that. I love that. Me, too. Me, too. The mozzarella sticks are, like, the best. Yeah, they're the best. It's my favorite sandwich. And turkey. I might have to try that because I love Thanksgiving anything, like the Thanksgiving food, the Thanksgiving. Yeah, it's all comfort food. I love it. Are you not going back home for Thanksgiving, then? That one's like a maybe because I do it, like, every other year kind of.

We'll see. We'll see. And you go home and you're just not filming videos. What do you do? Just hang out? Just kind of like, Kansas is more of like a slower lifestyle. Like pretty much all you do every day is go to the gas station and get a pop and get a snack. Oh my God. I always say I call it pop and everyone says like sodas or. I've always called it pop, but I slowly started to change on accident. I lost my accent. Really? I mean accident. Yeah. No.

I love a pop. Like anything was a pop. Like if you want a Coke, it's a pop. If you want a Sprite, it's a pop. Yeah. I used to say LA is changing me. But whenever I think about Kansas, whenever I think about getting a drink in Kansas, I always think of pop. Like I feel like it's pop there. Then like, I don't know. I say soda here sometimes. Soda is just so weird. It sounds like from the 50s.

Like I'm going to like the soda shop. Yeah, like soda pop. Yeah. Soda pop. I don't like that. I don't like soda. Yeah. The whole thing of it. I agree. I think it should be pop. I like pop. Pop's a fun word to say. I definitely think, yeah. I guess if you're not into like filming back there, but okay.

To end this, I love what we talked about like towards the end of our last mukbang. I'm kind of talking about the beginning is I think it's like so interesting when you're like, I really like try to fight toxic masculinity. I feel like when people think about that, they think about like, um, like dominance, like anti-femme, like being emotional, those kinds of things. What do you think is like the one thing that you want to like fight against the stereotype of being like toxic masculinity? Um, I don't know. I feel like, uh, I feel like,

With toxic masculinity a lot of it especially like relationships like they feel like they're like like owners or you know of like power Yeah, they have like power. I don't like the idea of like feeling like you need to be like stronger and more powerful and you can't like Things like you know, you can't like things that are considered like a feminine thing, you know like I just grew up in Kansas and

I feel like it would be – I feel like I'd be super made fun of if people knew, like, I got my nails done and I didn't like sports. And I don't know. I don't, like – I don't care what –

Like, I don't care what, like, girls wear. Like, I know, like, I've heard of people having a girlfriend and, like, they'd be mad about their girlfriend, like, wearing a certain thing. Like, I don't, like, I don't think there should be control over. Like, if something's too sexy or something like that. Yeah, yeah. Yeah, you just let them be. Yeah. I like that. Like, you said, like, Tara would, like, yell on a table and tell everyone to get out. It's, like, usually they think, like, a man should do that, right? And you're, like, I'm happy having, like, a girl do it. You guys can kick someone out. Yeah, I think that women are more powerful than men. Oh.

Especially just being around women. I mean, I feel like women run the world. Right. I feel like just intuition. Everything is just more powerful. I always think about that. Men are like in power, but I feel like when it comes to the public, like opinion, how things work and just like everything in general, like everything other than an official like power title, women run it. I think because people are like scared for women to run it in the sense of like they're too powerful.

where it's almost like you know what i mean like think about like how women are the ones that have the babies right it's like why why would that be that we're the ones that have to like go through like the pain of it all it's like i think it's just like this really like powerful like mind over matter thing where i don't know if men could go through it yeah or like bleeding every month like could you imagine like just bleeding out of your like hole every month yeah i feel like i feel like um a lot of people realize that uh uh

men are like kind of big babies. Yeah. Especially when you get to know them, you start to realize that. Yeah, it's absolutely true.

It's actually crazy. There's the few that are just like, okay, like they're not. But most of them, yeah, the girls have to like take over. I feel like that. I think that's like super cool. I agree. But they keep it a secret like within the relationship. Yeah. Oh, for sure. They don't want you to know. But that's why a lot of women say they're happier when they get divorced because it's like, oh, finally, I don't have to take care of like a big baby. You know what I mean? Yeah. I mean, more power to you if like your man's a baby and you want to take care of him, like do that too. I think that's like empowerment. Yeah.

But yeah, I just like I really like the idea of like equals. I feel like yeah, I feel like it's very common for men to feel like they're the the the better half, the more powerful half or like the stronger half. But like, I don't know. I feel like it's all it's all equal. And, you know, I love like a bold, like a bold woman. I feel like bold women are like awesome. Amazing. I love that you don't shy away. So like if a woman made more money than you, you're not going to feel like inferior. Yeah.

No, no. And I just like confident, bold women that know their worth. I feel like I'm around a lot of them and it's really cool. I love it. Yeah, I feel like I only know a few of the women, but I feel like they're all strong. Yeah, I love it. Strong women. And not like likes to be around you but doesn't need you, which is also a big, you know. Are you emotional? Do you cry? No.

I'm not like the biggest crier, but like I'm definitely like open with my feelings. And I know that like I know it's like it's not easy to be open with your feelings. Like it takes work, you know, it takes especially like with relationships and friendships. Like it's like.

hard to like open up and it's like hard to talk about things and you know if you don't then tension starts and in the end it's like always the better option just to be like open and talk and it makes you closer to anyways so yeah like if you can and that's i think the biggest miscommunication is just like when you can't communicate yeah i used to be like i used to be like that you know it's but you know i just like i don't know i i feel like i'm getting i'm being

a better person, a more open person every year. So it's awesome. What's the last thing that you were the most open about that you like really opened up about in your private life or just in general? Just getting closer to people in general, you know, like, I don't know. You know what? Like when Johnny and Carrington did their show the other day, like I just like, I was like crying. Like my, like there's just tears. I wasn't like moping, but like there's just tears running on my face and I couldn't help it. And I just like,

I don't know. I just like felt like this proudness and it felt like, I don't know, just felt like my heart was getting like, like squeezed. I just like, I don't know. Oh my God. That's like the cutest thing ever. Cause it is. Were the people surprised to see you there? Were they like, oh my God. Well, I was in the back.

Did you come on stage at one point or no? I did for a second, yeah. And were people so excited? I think so. I think so. That's so cool. Yeah, there's like someone with the Jake and Johnny flag in the crowd. With the what? There's like a Jake and Johnny flag. Oh my god. People will like bring it out at random concerts. It's really funny. Is he going to go like on a full tour? If he does, I think it would be really cool if me, Carrington, and him did it. I think he would prefer that too. I think if we all did it together, it would be really fun. Oh my, so you would perform live? Yeah.

I think I could work up to it. But yeah, I told myself literally a month ago that I never would. And now you're like, after seeing him, you're like, I'm inspired. Yeah, absolutely.

And what's like a cover song you would do? Especially with Carrington because that was his first time ever. You said he has one song and he performed it. That's insane to have like amazing. It was just crazy like seeing him before he went on. Like he was like just like, you know, breathing. I could tell like there's like a thousand thoughts like running through his brain. And it just like made me think like he's so strong like for doing this. Like he's doing everything that like –

I told myself I wouldn't do it. And I was like watching him like do it. Like it was, it was like I was watching myself like if it was me for the first time. And I was like, wow, he did it like I could do it. And he sang with the band too?

No, his song was kind of more of like a rap instrumental. Really? Yeah, I think that it just played that. You turned me on. Well, I told you we looked at the Halloween costumes and I saw him as like Edward Cullen. I was like, wait, he kind of looks like him. Who's this person? He's a really pretty guy. Yeah, my co-host Oscar was just like, oh, yeah, they're like in this all front group. And that's how I got like turned on to all that because you guys are Halloween costumes all eight. Specifically Tara as Bart was crazy. She goes all out.

She looked really good. And she knows like she has that pressure now. She's like, I have to. It's like, yeah, it's definitely her holiday. If you were to go on tour, what cover song would you do?

I never thought about doing a cover song. Oh, really? I feel like there's always like one cover song people do. You know, even Sabrina does like Chapel Row. And like there's always Jonas Brothers did Sabrina Carpenter. I think I would have to like think about it. But that's such a good idea. Maybe like Justin Bieber. Yeah, something that I love. Yeah, I think that'd be really cool. If you think Justin Bieber because your music is so not Justin Bieber, I think people would like freak out. Yeah, like in a my way. Yeah, that'd be cool. We're just friends, what I'm saying.

I feel like that sounds like you in my head. Yeah. I would do it. I love Justin Bieber. Yeah, I do too. I hope he's doing well. I feel like with all the Diddy stuff that came out, I'm kind of like, oh my God, is he okay? I know. I just, I just feel like being someone like him, like having the entire world, like every, everyone know you just in general and just feel like,

Because sometimes, like, I mean, I don't ever expect anyone to ever feel, like, empathy for me. Because obviously, like, I'm, you know, I'm an influencer. And, like, I have, like, a lot of things that are really cool for me. So I never expect that. But there are some times... Like, there's some times I think, oh, this is, like...

this thing or this thing's a little difficult and just and that's like a grain of salt to someone like Justin Bieber so no I know I quote that like Britney Spears and I'm just like god I know just sometimes like with my kids if I'm like with them and it's like god it'd be nice to be like for like in the parking lot or something like just like you know private for one second so they don't have to experience it but it's like then think about someone like Britney Spears who can't like

ever leave her house. You know, it doesn't happen like one time someone's rude to me or something. I'm not gonna be nice to me. Yeah, like not even like the gas station or like anywhere. Nowhere. Like you just can't go out to eat. You can't do that. I'm like, yeah, it would be such, especially like you said, Justin Bieber, I think also was very different. And Britney in the sense like they got a lot of like hate for just like existing. Like they'd just be out and they'd get like hate about it. Yeah, that was like, that was like, I feel like that was the moment of time where magazines were just so like,

Rude. Like, the cover would be like, oh, blah, blah, blah, this, blah, blah, blah, that. And it would just be, like, totally, like, just, like, the rudest thing. Like, body shaming. Yeah. Like, on the front page of the magazine. I think that era's passed. I don't know. I don't think it has. I think people are still as awful. You're kind of Justin Bieber-coded in the sense, like, I don't think people will ever stop asking him about Selena Gomez. Yeah.

even though he's married with a baby, you know what I mean? And people are like, oh, him and Selena or Selena, same thing. Oh, her and Justin. It's like, yeah, that's crazy. Like you may go down that path of just always getting asked about Tara and you can be married with kids. The craziest thing is, is that like, we didn't have this big audience change until after we broke up. So a lot of people were like, oh, it's like when they're together. And I was like, every time people say that, I'm like,

I don't even think you were there when we were even dating. I remember the breakup video and I was just like, oh. Yeah. I had no idea. Most of the people that watch us now weren't there when we even broke up. So it's kind of interesting. The breakup video made it. Yeah. Most people know us as broken up. And then they get mad because you guys are friends. Like, ugh, they're supposed to be broken up. Why are they still friends? I've seen people get madly tired of some interviews and people get really, really upset.

On the defense or attacks or like, you guys can't save friends. I think a lot of people are putting their own situations into it. I've had, you know, someone like the not best breakups before. I feel like everyone has. Yeah. So they don't understand it. Yeah. But I feel like if someone...

goes to the same thing as I did with Tara, like they would get it. But I feel like it's kind of hard to find an experience you didn't go through. Well, I said this too. You said on your TikTok, you're like, you know, maybe you just didn't like the person. Like when you broke up, you realized who that person was and you realized you never really liked. Yeah, because it takes a long time to get comfortable and like really know someone like, uh, I don't know. I, I have like a lot of friends that like, you know, that,

Like I don't know. Like they kind of open up like over time and I feel like that's with everyone. Yeah. Yeah. And then even sometimes even after like a 10-year friendship, you're just like maybe I don't even know that person. Yeah. Like sometimes they always like shock you. Like I feel like I've never had that connection with someone. So it's like it is weird for people to fathom like wait, you're in a relationship and you like that person? Like that's unheard of, you know? Yeah. No. It's like – and it's like people will be like, oh, I don't know how you could become friends with them because I'd be scared of –

blah blah blah because you guys like had sex and stuff like that but it's like I don't see Tara like as like a walking like

pair of boobs or something. And she doesn't see me like, you know, we don't look at each other like, like that. We look at each other as like humans and like friends. Like it's, it's more than that. I feel like that's what people don't really get is like, it's, it's deeper than, um, it's deeper than like the relationship. Like we care for each other as like humans and like having that deep of care for someone. It's like, it's just like past the idea of like, uh,

You know, relationship and stuff like that. And people... Yeah, they don't want us to be friends anymore. Yeah. But it's like... I mean...

I don't know why we wouldn't. If everything's like completely fine, then why would we? It's so crazy. Yeah, people just like love to tear something apart. Yeah. They're like, oh, they look happy. Let's tear it apart. Oh, she got a car from him? Like, oh. Yeah, exactly. And I don't care if like she gets a boyfriend. If like she has a boyfriend and he treats her right, then like I think that's awesome. I would want that for her. But think about the boyfriend being like, wow, Jake bought you a car and you're not dating. Damn, I have to really step it up for your birthday. You know what I mean? Like don't do it like that.

Yeah, but like in my defense, you know, I had a brand deal for that. Right, right, right. That video makes revenue. It's like, I don't know. Whenever it was Johnny's birthday, I went thrift shopping for him. And obviously that's a way bigger price difference. But...

For Johnny, like, I was out, like, shopping for, like, eight hours thrifting. And for the car, I just swiped a card. So, like. Yeah, you put, like, more thought into it. Yeah. There's, like, you know, price doesn't always define everything. No, I always feel that way, too, when people, like, come on the podcast. It's not like Tana, who's always on the podcast. I'm always, like, I should just, like, buy her a purse or something. Because I feel like she's helping me so much. And I'm, like, oh, my God. I should, like, get her something, you know. Yeah. I've gotten, like, homemade gifts before that, like. Homemade gifts are, like, mean a lot. They put, like, their whole heart into it. And, like, that could. That, like, is, like, worth more than anything. So. Yeah. So.

So that's a lot to live up to. But you also did bring, also we never showed it, but every time Jake comes over, you always bring, last time you brought Hinks bagels, was it? Yeah. So good. And you brought these mini Krispy Kremes. I thought they were so cute. They look like the fake donuts. I don't know what they are. I don't know. What are the fake donuts? What are they actually? Fake donuts. I don't know. There's like fake donuts that look like, oh, they're like squishmallows. Yeah. You put them on your keys. Have you seen those? Oh, no. Wait, what? And they're just like, they look like donuts though? Yeah. Yeah.

Have you seen those little – have you seen the Sunny Angels? Wait, wait. With the troll hair? Yeah, yeah, yeah. That people have on their phones. Yeah. I wish they just had a little diaper on them because I really like them. They're cute. I just think it's like – I mean it's not weird because they're supposed to be like little cherubs or something like that. But I love the way they look, those little cute things. Have you seen the voodoo ones? No. Oh. I feel like they have – like I don't know. I don't like the idea of like a voodoo doll but like they're cute looking. Is it actual voodoo? No. It's just like a gas station little toy. It's not like the little boo-boos. What's that? Oh.

Oh, the ones that are like, they're like Korean. They're like little like devious. They look a little dubious. Oh, no, I don't think so. It's just like a cheap like gas station thing. There's a lot of different ones and a lot of them are pretty cute looking. I like, I haven't seen those, but I do love like little like toys like that. I love like voodoo donuts too. Like, have you seen those at City Walk? The little like voodoo's there? So cute. They seem a little demonic. Do you want to try one? Yeah, I totally would. What's your favorite flavor? God, probably these little ones, these little chocolate ones. I love Krispy Kreme. They always come out with new themes.

I realize that I'm so texture driven because these sprinkles like obviously don't have an impactful flavor, but just the feeling of like biting into sprinkles is the best. And just like pure sugar too. When you bite into this, I think I have to get a root canal because I can feel it in my gums. Like I feel the sugar rush going through my nerves, which is probably not good, but like Krispy Kremes is just pure sugar, air and fluff. That's true. That's true.

But in the best way possible. No, Krispy Kremes and their themes are superior. They always have like they have Grinch ones coming out for Grinchmas. I saw. I saw. I'm excited. I love their M&M's. Their M&M's collab. Yeah. Did you try it? Where's your closest one? Burbank? Yeah. Well, they also have them like in an Amazon store. Yeah. Like it's in a... Where are those? It's in a...

Where is it? It's by like the mall, the Topanga Mall. There's like an Amazon Fresh there and it has a Krispy Kreme in it. And nobody works at those stores, right? There's one there. Oh, yeah. There's people that work there. I don't really know how it works. I've never been to one. I see one here near us, but I've never been to one. I'm like, oh, that's kind of weird. Yeah, these are good. We tried to get one at 7-Eleven the other day and it didn't work out. So we got our donut now. Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm.

Oh, it's so good. Yeah. I think the chocolate. Thank you for these. Do what? Thank you for these. Of course. Chocolate is my favorite. But I think you went with pink because you're all pink today. That's true. That's true. How do you feel? Final question. How do you feel in all pink? Do you feel. You're kind of tar yummy vibes too because you have the black hair. Yeah. I feel. We have similar styles I guess. I definitely feel like it's like out of. Out of like. I feel like.

i'm not like my normal aesthetic i feel like so far from it you feel comfy though i feel like you feel i do feel comfy i do feel comfy do you feel like we're just like ready to watch like a horror movie now yeah with our little donuts for sure i have pajamas of all colors so i do usually wear a lot of color but when i'm like going out or doing something like that it's usually like red or black so yeah i like that you went pink today of course that's your color yes i think

I feel it's just fun. I feel when people wear pink, they just feel like a good time. Pink is a good, like, fun color. I like it. Yeah, you can wear this next time you're in Thomas G. Wiggin. There's nothing negative about pink. I feel like you can't attach pink to anything bad. No. Think about, like, Pepto-Bismol. It cures your stomach ache every time. That's true. I would love to do a commercial for them. In my new Christmas song, I gave a shout out to Pepto-Bismol because I just think they're so iconic and so cool.

That's true. I haven't had it, but I've tried Tums. Is it the same thing? The chewy ones? Yeah. Have you tried the smoothie flavors? Or do you get like the chalky ones? No, but I've seen those. I'm afraid I'll eat more than I should though. They taste like Skittles. Yeah, see, that's why I didn't get them. They're my favorite thing. Oh my God. I eat probably two Tums a day. Like I love a Tums. It just feels good for heartburn and everything. But especially when you eat the junk like we do, you kind of need a Tums.

every once in a while. That's fair. I should have them more on lock because I've only tried it like a couple times. I have literally three different flavors in my purse. I have like a fruity flavor. I hate the chalky ones and I have the smoothie flavor and then I have candy cane like the peppermint ones come out. Candy cane. They're so good. Try them. Tums Hall. Tums Mukbang. I will. Yeah. Tums Mukbang. That's insane. I love it. All right, you guys. Well, if you want to check out

Check out all of Jake's adventures. Gosh, do people ever get you and Johnny confused? I keep wanting to call you Johnny. You know what? This is the funniest thing ever. I get called Johnny all the time. I keep wanting to call you honey. Johnny has never been called Jake in his life. That's so weird because I know you guys as Jake and Johnny, but it's like twins where you're just like, oh, Jake and Johnny. So I'm trying to like- Johnny, I just feel like it's just more so much of a recognizable name. Jake, it is simple and it's common, but Johnny, it just sounds like-

His name just sounds like emo. It just sounds like. Yeah. I feel like Johnny would fit both of us. Yeah. I feel like Jake is like high school movie like name. Yeah. It's very. It is. I think it's from like She's All That. I think the lead character's name is Jake. And so. So yeah. I get called Johnny so much. I was about to call you Johnny. But this is not Johnny. Go check out Jake Webb. We're everywhere. Go find all his adventures on TikTok, YouTube. We just did a 7-Eleven mukbang. Go leave love. We love you guys so much. And we'll see you in the next one.

Bye guys. Konnichiwa. What is it? What is bye? Or is it konnichiwa? Sayonara. Sayonara. Is that it? Yeah. Sayonara.