Brianna Chickenfry's MESSY Breakup & Is Zach Bryan a Devil Amongst Us?
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That was always the crazy thing with the vlog squad is like, yeah, they talk behind my back, but they're always scared of me. And I kind of like that. You know what I mean? You can't put your whole relationship like online, make TikToks together. Like that's your whole personality. Like no, like no shade. I would make it my personality too. But then to be like, don't make videos about this. Like as you're making a video about it, like that's wild.

Hello everyone, welcome to Just Trish. Today we are going to Jolio London to visit our good friends at the Bridgerton household and the Targaryen household. House of Targaryens, how do you do? We're doing all British today, right? Is that the right...

Is that the language they speak? Just to laugh, should we switch up British Actions too? We should switch it up. I just wasn't expecting it, even though we said we would do it. We're doing it. You look posh. From Westeros. Westeros? What area is that from? Just a hop, skip and a jump from London, I think. Plenty on the way.

All those chocolate frogs on the train, are they so good? And had the little chicken shop date with that Amelia de Moldenburg. Amelia! Lovely, charming gal she is. You see that chap Andrew Garfield on there? Quite a couple they are. They were snogging while eating a chicken tender. Surely I will duel him. Snogging before marriage?

I haven't heard of such call, Anthony and Benedict. Instantly, Colin, you must duel him. My brother's married to my sister, so it doesn't really shock me. Oh, well, that's lovely, isn't it? Have a baby. Yes. Wow, they blend on our sheets. My other brother sent someone to kill one of the babies, so. Wow, we've never heard of such thing over here at the tawn. Perhaps it should come to our next.

seasoned you are. How about you? Are you wed? Shall I find you a match? I literally am crying. How about you, Colin? What are you doing? You have to say something. Just having a cup of tea. I'd rather have a Guinness, please. Did you stop at the tavern you did? I smelt it on you. I'm actually Scottish. Okay.

- That was crazy. - That was crazy. Do you have a king in your kingdom? - My brother. - Your brother? Is it perhaps the DraftKings that are sponsoring today's episode? We love DraftKings. Go ahead 20 pence in to see the ad read for such sponsors. We have to keep the ton moving. Okay, this is so hard. Shout out to Shakespeare.

All right. Here we are, guys. Oh, my God. DraftKings is sponsoring our show. We are... We just decided to be British, I guess. Right? Is that the... Or the 1800s. It was... I...

Okay. Well, are we at year zero or not? We're in year zero. I don't know. B, C, A, C, Z. We're all A, C, right? We're all C. I think so, yeah. Or after Conquest. I have no idea. There was a Michael Cera movie called Year One or something or 180 or something. Oh, really? Yeah. They're like, oh, there's a movie about it. Historically accurate or no? Sure it is. If it's Michael Cera, aye.

I am obsessed with your costume. This is the best you've ever looked. Oh, thank you. I love this on you. I do love it too. It was a little snug. I had to really make some alterations this morning. You always say that, but it looks good. It looks so good. I'm glad that, again, there's no wide camera, so that definitely helps. But it was one of those things too where I got it like weeks ago and I knew I should have tried it on, but in my head I was like, no, it'll fit. And then I put it on and I was like, huh. Yeah.

Never. I never do that anymore. Every time I'm like, it'll fit. It never does. Never. I'm like, I will always, always. But I do get everything custom made so it will fit because I'm so tired of trying to buy things online hoping it'll fit. It never does. This is great. Did you buy it online? Yeah, I bought it online. Was it made for this character or was it? It was made for another one of the Targaryens, but they all kind of dress the same. And I really wanted to wear this eye patch. So I just went with Aemon Targaryen.

You look so cool without your glasses today. I know. You just can't see. I felt cool. I just literally can't see. And like, if I have to read my notes, I don't know how I'll do it. You look cool. So that'll be on and off. Did you start with it off? Yeah, I started with it off. Yeah, you need a monoglass. Wow. Yeah. You look...

This is your look. You should just adopt it. Yeah. I mean, can you imagine showing to E.T. like this? Nobody would ever argue with you. That's true. It is really intimidating. He knows what he's talking about. His name's Haymitch Targaryen. Is that what you said? Amen. Haymitch? Amen. It sounds very much like Haymitch, huh? Amen, Haymitch. And how does he relate to Daenerys? He's a Targaryen. Maybe great, great, great, great.

great brother? I don't know. Oh. I don't know. There is a family tree, but I don't get that into it. I have a feeling maybe House of Dragons was like whatever we talked about last time, but I have a feeling Bridgerton might be Game of Thrones because if he's her great, great, great. Oh my God. You are so, I think you cracked it. That makes so much more sense. I feel like that makes sense because I'm like, okay, if he's a great, great, great, he's before. Yes, you're so right. Yeah. Because Daenerys was a long time. Well, not super long, I guess, but like a couple

hundred years, I guess. Yeah, I feel that way, too. Yeah, I think you nailed it. Yeah, so my boyfriend said that...

He got all like historical all of a sudden. He's like, well, Bridgeton is actually the Victorian era and House of the Dragon is actually in medieval times. So they aren't exactly the same era. That's what I said. I feel like it's the same. I feel like medieval, renaissance, Victorian. Like I feel like it's all the same era. It kind of is to me. Like I feel like my outfit kind of goes well with Moe's. Yeah, it actually looks like very identical. Yeah. Yours is more sci-fi. Mine is correct. Yeah.

He's very, like you're in the Taun and you're like in Croatia. You're like in the like wild, wild west. Wild, wild Westeros. Yeah. Oh my God. I wonder if that's what they call it.

And then there's the Alamo happening and it's like cowboys. But truly cowboys. In America. Yeah, it's happening at the same time, Bridget, and for sure I looked that up. So I was like, okay, so this must be, maybe they are just like in this like wild, yeah, Westeros, Croatia. Yeah, I like how that makes sense. Like a whole other thing. But imagine the freedom of being a cowboy out of this, the layers that I'm wearing on. It doesn't matter how cold AC is, like hot and uncomfortable.

And they're just like in jeans, shirts, riding horses. The cowboys. Yeah. But think about it in Bridgerton era for real when they actually didn't have air conditioning and they were hot in the summer and they're just outside like baking in that sun. They probably smelled so bad. And they didn't have bathtubs. They have those like, well, they had tubs, but they have like the water that you pour on once a week. Same with House of the Dragon. Yeah.

It must be the same. Well, they bought before plumbing. That's why. Oh. Before plumbing. It is wild. I was like, they must have really smelled. That should be the new calendar. BP. Before plumbing. That's wild. Before plumbing? That's actually wild. You know how people say, oh, I was born in the wrong era. I was born in the wrong year. I was born in the right time. Right year. Same. Same. You need electricity. Medicine. All of it. Ozempic. We're in the right era. Period. Period.

Yeah, it is kind of wild, actually, when you think about it. I wouldn't want to be in the Victorian. Like, maybe life is more simple back then. Like, there's no social media. You're like, you know, arranged marriage. Like, everything's a little more simple, but I don't know. I mean, you had Wimbledon. What's her name? Whistledown. Whistledown. I'm a British fan over here. Whistledown. We love Whistledown. I mean, they had social media. Do you know who you're supposed to be today?

I'm Colin. Very good. I was very impressed. I mean, I look more like somebody else, but I don't know. Who do you think you look like? I think you look like Colin. Maybe like an older brother to Colin. No, I think you look like him. Oh, you think you look like Jonathan Bailey? Anthony Bridgerton? Maybe the other one. Benedict? Yeah. Maybe it's the hair. I don't know. I like it. It looks good. And he's an artist. That's true. You look very... You guys, I won. I won. Moses wore the wig. I won.

I won the battle. It was, um. I don't know. If you need a wig for the lesbian episode. Babe, I don't think you can say that. That's like offensive to lesbians. No. I mean, just me like a Karen, like I was calling her the Karen haircut earlier. Karen's better than lesbian. That's wild. That's the episode we're having. Oh my God. What? That's not.

That's not a fan anyone. I think it looks great. I did get my rosy wig so I'm ready for that. I know it's going to be after Halloween but I'm so ready so think of yours. What can you wear with that wig? I'm trying to think who has like short brown hair. What? I'm not wearing this again? No you

for Oscar so I was like what is he what woman wears that haircut like a young Ellen but she's not for neck maybe she was young she experimented there has to be a woman that wears short hair like that there has to be yeah I don't know who I'm thinking there's a bunch of comedians a bunch of comedians comedians

Lesbians, comedians. Okay, well, keep it moving. Keep it rolling. But yes, we actually have a Slay British outfit too. This is a Slay one. This is her wedding outfit. But I have the blue dress that she wore and we just did another photo shoot in my garage. And that'll be for Moses' birthday. I'll be like, this is your birthday post. You're going to be...

Because it's October 29th, so, you know, it feels like Halloween that time. Our Idol one got really good traction last year on your birthday. Oh, my God. I cannot believe that was a year ago. Isn't that crazy? That's crazy. I know. I feel like our costumes have really elevated this year, all of us, because I'm looking at the one of us as, like, the Duncan, and I feel like we really elevated, you know? No, but your ice spice really was historic, though. That's true. That was true. I feel I'm just ready for next week, our Hunger Games. I'm really excited for that one. I know. Me, too. It's going to slay.

It's a good time. It's a lot of work, but it is fun. It's a lot of work. It's like the content's a lot of work because it's like a photo. It's like getting up, glamming, outfits, photo shoot, TikToks, like podcasts. Other club. Yeah. That was the vibe. Club. Other club. And it's like photo shoot this. It's a lot. And then there's like set design. Yeah, we did two photo shoots before this.

Two photo shoots, TikTok, Malibu was attached. She's like in our shots in the background because she's like attached to the leg. And so she was like not leaving. So it's like us. And then it's like Malibu to the side. She loved it. She was just watching. She was like smiling, looking at me getting dressed. She was like, this is funny. It was really cute. It was really cute. She was like feeling it, but...

Just non-stop action this week. I know. Everyone's also gagged that your set is in your garage too. I felt like that was a fun fact. Because it really looks in the Wicked photos. It looked like a real set. Like a universal backlog. Yes. Like, yeah. It's insane. There's these girls called Drip Dome. I filmed my polyester cover at their studio. And it made such a difference to have a set. I was like, holy crap.

Holy cow. And it's actually like so simple in person. I mean, obviously they're super smart in how they like frame it all, but it's like super simple. Do you have the behind the scenes? You just sent it to Jimmy, the behind the scenes of it. Yeah, but that's, I mean, like downtown where we usually film, that's what it looks like. It's just a loft. Yeah. You know, and the garage is kind of a loft space. It's just a square of concrete that you can do whatever.

Yeah, they do it so good. Yeah, that one was insane. Today is actually even more insane. We did like the Bridgerton poster and it was like literally like they did like a wallpaper, the mirror. There's a mirror. So we had to have a wallpaper hanging somewhere. Reflecting. Reflects through the mirror as if we're in that room. I took a picture of it because I'm like people are going to think this is AI or Photoshop. Like it looks so

Oh, good. I was like, they're amazing. Shout out to Drip Dome. They're really, really great. So Hunger Games is pretty simple. It's kind of like British and they both have a green backdrop. So we're going to use the same green backdrop for Hunger Games because it actually is exactly the same as their Catching Fire portrait. So it's going to be cute. I love it. I love it. It's like literally the same backdrop. I was like, wow, they really –

Maybe it's the same time period. Just kidding. Do you know the years that's supposed to be? It's supposed to be... Futuristic. Yeah, so... Not the same year. Not the same year. It's not real. We're not far. I mean, you know, it's the evolution of Jimmy's...

What's his new game? Mr. Beast. Mr. Beast, Jimmy. I know. I keep thinking Jimmy. I was like, what? Think about that show evolving for the next 50 years and we get there. Yeah, not far off, actually. When is the one with Lucy Gray? Oh, maybe around Britain time. It's probably around our time now, maybe, right? Oh, you're actually so right. I don't know. Like, how many... I guess no's in it, so it's probably 60 years before... I guess I don't know the timeline of Hunger Games, but...

Yeah, we'll be futuristic next week. We're olden days today and then futuristic next week. And then fantasy for Wicked, which by the way, we just got to say, how about Wicked News every time we do the podcast? Because you sent it to me and I didn't even see it. Was Wicked has dining, Wicked Dining now at Universal Studios. Is that the one here in LA? Yes, I believe so.

At CityWalk, it looked like. Okay, because I know there's like Hollywood Florida, but I didn't know if there was like Hollywood California. It did look like CityWalk, though. Yeah, it looked like CityWalk. It looked so good. Oh, my God. I want to go so bad. I just love all the Wicked buzz everywhere. I was like, that looked so delicious. Obviously, Kim Kardashian. Did you see her? Yes. She got her private screening of Wicked with...

Cynthia and Ariana. I was like, our fan screening didn't even get that. We were all like, maybe somebody will come. They're like, oh, we're going to just show up at the house. Maybe a munchkin at least. Yeah. Oh, I would take anybody. I was going to say Ethan Slater, but he's kind of a star. But any of the other ones I will take, you know. They all are so iconic. All the munchkins at the beginning of the movie are so iconic. And they all – I don't think this is a spoiler. They all like – and I truly – I don't know if they –

know if they designed it after Ethan Slater or Ethan Slater after the Munchkins but they all have the same hair all the Munchkins which I thought was pretty cool it's a pretty cool because like in the play in the stage production they don't really have that but in the movie I remember the opening scene I was like oh they all have the same like red kind of like my hair today kind of like a red curly hair it's really interesting yeah I would take anyone from Wicked honestly like Munchkin number three come on you know what I mean I think that would be so sick I know I was so I've actually never been more jealous of Kim Kardashian like there's a lot of things to be jealous of her for her private jet her

her career and all the Ryan Murphy shows, freeing the Menendez brothers, but I was like, this?

And you know what? They're like so close in proximity. I mean, everyone knows where they live. It shows on the show. Calabasas. Everyone knows. And so it's like so close to proximity. I was like, God, we could just like be in the same playgroups or something, you know? It's like possible. Like, I don't know. They just, they look like they live such a fabulous life. It looks like they have a Skims, maybe Wicked collab coming. Oh, that kind of makes sense. Because they were all in pajamas. Yeah, the green. And then they showed racks and it was like a green rack and a pink rack, so. Wow. Wicked really has like...

Hit every single collab possible, I think. They got the Walmart mac and cheese collab. They got the Skims collab. They have a Swarovski craft club. It's a wicked world we're just living in. Yeah. I love it. I'm so here for it. I've never been more obsessed with Ariana, Cynthia. I'm like standing everybody. Like Ariana's in the news constantly.

for her like response to Elvira and everyone was just like ugh like I mean there was people who were like okay we get it because you know she went through a lot that year and then there was another that was just like ugh like entitled and I just think Ariana can do no wrong and I was just like leave Ariana alone like I'm just so over everybody and trying to like bring her down tear her down

All the Wicked cast. Everyone's just trying to tear them down, I think, right now. Specifically the female leads. I'm not seeing – I mean, how can you hate Jonathan Bailey? But I'm not seeing any hate towards Ethan Slater or Jonathan Bailey, you know what I mean? Which is good. Keep it that way. But also, like, why the females of the film, you know? Yeah. Ariana commented – this is actually what kind of surprised me. Elvira did, like, a Q&A where she got asked, like, who's the rudest celebrity in counter. She talked about how –

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I forgot that little... So, yeah. But I was surprised that Elvira posted an article about it. Because I feel like it's one thing to talk about it in Q&A. You get asked. It's like, oh, yeah, Ariana Grande. But then there was an article. Oh, I didn't know. Because we just talked about the Q&A. I didn't know this. So when we first talked about it, it was only the Q&A. But then it got picked up. And Elvira posted a screenshot of the article on her Instagram. And that's when I'm like, okay, that's doing a little too much, right? I'm like, okay, okay.

I feel like she might actually run it herself. It's giving like, it's giving like boomer vibes. Not in a bad way, but it's giving like boomer. Like my mom, my mom will do it. She'll like post, you know, like little like screenshots of stuff on there. Oh yeah, I love your mom's Instagram. Yeah, my mom's Instagram. Shout out Mama Got Back. It's actually so cute. But you know, it's like, you know, it's like she's running it herself. So she just kind of posts whatever, you know, like sometimes like a head's cut off or something. It's just like, so Elvira's giving me that vibe. It's like here, instead of like linking it in the story or something, she's like, let me just put, I'll kind of post an article I guess too. Maybe not.

about that though that's so random yeah it's kind of random it's not like a profile on her it's like you know a gossipy kind of article and then that's where ariana grande commented and she wrote i'm so disheartened to see this i actually don't even remember getting the chance to meet you because i had an anxiety attack and to my memory left before the rest of my family this was around seven years ago and at the time i was really not great with with being in public crowds or loud places

But if I'm misremembering the moment, I sincerely apologize for offending you. So thank you for being so nice to my mom. She told me how lovely you were. Shade. She might have different feelings about that now, but I'll talk to her. Clearly we all have our days. Sending love always. You'll always be our queen of Halloween. I love it. I love a read-a-man. Which may not be the case now, but I'll talk to her.

I love that she just kind of, like, went straight to, like, the source and, you know, tried to work it out, at least. And the timeline does make sense, because, obviously, like, seven years ago, she had just went through the whole, like, Manchester, like, terrorist attack at her concert. And, obviously, the PTSD from that, which is actually tea. Like, even I kind of forgot that she went through that. I didn't know either. I forgot about it. And once, like, the people posted the timeline, and then also there was, like, I think first –

People were saying it was 2016, but then there was, like, photos of, like, Frankie meeting her in 2017, which proved it happened, like, right after the Manchester attack. Oh, Frankie was one of the family members that met her? Yeah. See, people found a photo from... I think he posted right away, real time, a selfie with him and Elvira from... What's... Yeah. I mean, like, no shade to

shade to Elvira but I'm like I wouldn't be like that quick to post a selfie that quick with her I'd be like okay I guess if I'm like gonna take a picture with her okay but like the fact that he was so excited about it I love that I'm sure he was they must have been big fans I'm like Ari please let's get us into Elvira you know that's wild if Ariana Grande is my sister there's like bigger people I want to meet than Elvira

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I'm not like super familiar with her work, but like I like the I what I see I like I like the character the branding I'm like, but what is she no more just for being on billboards? I think being a camp I guess and being like she does one day was like I'm wearing this costume and now I'm Halloween I don't know if she made herself Halloween. I think the people like the general public like associated with her and then she's like dressed like that and

but it's like it's a character obviously because her real name is Cassandra Peterson so she's like I just remember her on Girls Next Door I remember her coming to Girls Next Door and I remember they were kind of like thought she wasn't nice to them she was kind of throwing shade at them oh really I think she was a little shady and I was like oh these girls or whatever like whatever and maybe that's her character I'm so not familiar so please Alvarez Danza come for me but I'm just like I always was wondering even back then I was kind of like what is she known for and I remember like looking it up and they're like yeah Queen of Halloween and I was just like

Was she like in a movie? Like is it a character from a movie? No, it's not a character from a movie. So like. I have seen her in movies and stuff though. Or at least shows. Yeah. There's like one clip where she uses her boobs to like break through a fence or something. Okay. So she's like a recurring character. She's like a Madea. Maybe. Yeah. Or it kind of. She's been on Drag Race and stuff before too. So maybe it's like a almost like a drag persona. I'm not sure. I don't know.

Respect. She definitely is, like, iconic. But, I mean, she was also shady towards Kylie Jenner before because everyone, like, resurfaced as old. I saw that one. That's old then? Because I saw it and I thought it was new. I was like, girl, calm down. Let's go for one deep at a time. Yeah, it's older when Kylie dressed up as her. And didn't tag her. And didn't tag her. Yeah, on Instagram. She would have said it would have been nice if she tagged me. Girl, what?

That's wild. I mean... So she kind of just gives, like, old school, like, diva vibes, but... Yeah, we're not trying to hate on, like, women here. I think it's really just, like, an age thing. Which, again, aging is a blessing. We love it. But I know I'll be out of touch at that age, too. You know what I mean? I know I'm just going to be that person, too, to also be, like... I don't know. I think at a certain age, you also just, like, just say whatever. Yeah. You know? Yeah. I think, too, like, it was...

I think kind of innocent enough that you get asked at a Q&A, like, oh, who's the rudest celebrity you've met? I feel like that's kind of like a staple question, you know, like have a little tea, you know? But I think, again, I think posting it to like her Instagram, like the screenshot article, because then you're like doubling down on it. You're like parading it around. Yeah, like who's the rudest? I know. I feel like that's why I'm like –

somewhat thankful the Colleen situation happened because when people were like who do you think deserved to be canceled and I was like Colleen like it's easy because she was like awful you know what I mean I was like the other people it's like okay we've had beef we had drama and they could be awful too but she was like awful like with children so I was like her you know so it's kind of my excuse now because like I think it canceled they asked that I think they're like oh who's like one person like deserved to cancel I'm like Colleen obviously and then

And then that way I can, like, clear myself from any other, like, beefs because I'm like, well, yeah, maybe they weren't great. And everyone's kind of on the same page about it. Yeah. It's like, oh, yeah, she was, like, in group chats with minors. That's, like, odd. I think we all universally can agree that's a weird thing, so. She's been on my mind too much lately. I don't know why. Oh, is it because of the wicked amount?

Oh, no. Well, I'm like – okay, I keep talking about this, but I'm like writing this book, right? And part of writing the book is like doing like chapters. So like we're quickly going through like things. So like part of it is like internet beefs, right? And so like I was retelling the story. And it's like I'm kind of telling it like I'm – like this person is helping me put my thoughts together. And I'm kind of telling it like to someone who like –

but, like, doesn't. So, like, having to explain, like, the lore of Internet Beast to someone who, like, has no idea who these people are is, like, so, it's so complex and it, like, really takes, like, hours and hours of my time. So I think she was, like, on the top of my head. But, no, God, no. I forgot that she was a Wicked fan. Oh, my God. Could you imagine if I, like, saw her at a Wicked screening and be like, oh, I was going to say, like, you know, the Wicked Witch is even back. I was going to go, oh, my God, the Witch. But it's, like, she's cute. Like, Elphaba's, like, cute and sweet at heart, you know? She's just, like, given the Wicked title. Yeah.

She's actually wicked, though. Like, she should, you know? Like, if there was an actual wicked character, like, she should be it. But they're all nice. All the witches in Oz are nice. I don't want to put that on them. She's just scary. She's spooky. Sorry. It's like, because I recently talked about it, it, like, made me angry all over again, you know? And I was just like... It reopens the wound. Like, actually, I guess I don't stop to think about it, which is, like, probably good, but I just, like...

I don't know. It is weird. That's like one that's like triggering us. I was just like, I don't know why this is like, like triggers me so much. This particular story. It's just so weird. But anyways, I know we're moving past it. I wasn't even bringing it up, but you mentioned a witch. What did you mention? What did you say? Oh, you said, you said, uh, who you're thankful because you have this. Yeah. What on a tangent? I didn't need to go on.

Right, because you were saying the rudest celeb. Yeah, I guess if someone's like, who's the rudest celeb? I guess I used to talk about it. I think I used to say Hugh Hefner, actually. I used to be like, he wasn't rude. He just called me fat. That's, yeah. Not bad. I mean, or you can always, well, now you like her, but you could have said, like, Ellen or. Tyra. And I love her, too. They're all divas now in my mind.

kind of slay actually it's kind of like I love that she didn't know my name like Tyra she literally was like thought my sister was my daughter and I was like slay like literally couldn't care less I think it's kind of funny she did kind of slay at the Victoria's Secret fashion show she did oh yeah we didn't even talk about that but I love she is like so iconic and like watching her be so problematic in the past but everyone thought she was like eating so hard I was like I kind of like love that she got away with like so much and she looked great what is she like in her 50s huh yeah she must be

That looks – that's insane. Because the first Victoria's Secret fashion show was, like, 1991, I think. Oh, my God. I was, like, three. I know. Wait, I didn't think she was that much older than me. That's crazy. Yeah. And it's crazy. Wow. I was, like, looking back at, like, all their first, like, runways and stuff. And I was, like, damn. She really is, like, a trailblazer, you know? Oh, for sure. And she, like, looks the exact same. Like, she really kind of looks exactly the same, which is, like, wild. Yeah.

Yeah, I loved it. I loved the Victoria's Secret fashion show this year. I know it's kind of old-t now, but what did you think, though, in the Victoria's Secret fashion show? All the older girls are all the plus-size girls. They put in long sleeves and pants, though. I was kind of like, oh. Wait, they did? I saw one that had her thighs out, a plus-size girl. Like all the older ones. Tyra was in a cape and almost a full-cover body suit. Really? Same with Adriana Lima and stuff. I wonder, you think they asked?

That's what I was wondering. And I feel like Attira probably would have, like, you know, say over her outfit, right? Because she is – similar to, like, Adriana. Like, she is so iconic. Like, don't you think she would – But they're, like, not that – I'm sure their bodies look great. I'm sure, like, they would look good. I'm sure they're not, like, that – because I know, like, Dolly wears a full bodysuit. When she was in, like, the Dallas Cowboy thing, she had, like, a full bodysuit. I know even, like, Paris wears – Paris Hilton wears gloves. I think a lot of, like, older women like to wear – my mom always loves to wear, like, a bodysuit under things, too.

But they're not even – they're in their 50s. So maybe they just felt like they're not in their supermodel prime. So they maybe asked to wear it. I would assume. Because that would be weird for Victoria Sey to be like, actually, you guys cover up. Was K-Moss? Let me see. I forgot who K-Moss was. I saw her daughter. I didn't see her. I didn't really watch the fashion show. I just saw like pictures and stuff. It's so funny too that like people – everyone was so excited to see it make a comeback. But I was like, oh, yeah. It was canceled at one point. She had like a lace.

like, gown situation. It was long sleeve. It was like long sleeve and a long gown. But it was kind of sheer. I would just assume they maybe...

Although it is weird all of them had it. Yeah. Because I'm sure someone's confident about their body where they'd be like, oh, I know. I want to show everything. Like I would. I wouldn't ask for a body suit. But let me show my belly. And the plus size ones too. Was it Ashley Graham? Yeah. Let me see what Ashley Graham was wearing. Maybe it's like this games thing. Maybe the whole thing is a promotion for those body suits. Maybe. Maybe they sell it. Maybe they do. Do they sell them? I don't know. Ashley Graham had her thighs out. But it was like a one piece situation though. Okay. Not like just a bra. Yeah. Yeah.

Well, they always be doing that to the plus size. They always kind of give you more coverage. Even like a Bahati, too. Like a Bahati Prinsloo who's like not – she's still teeny tiny. She's a little bit older, I guess. Yeah. But they put her in like a slip gown, too. I was like, hmm. I guess I would just assume maybe that's like what they asked for. I would hope. I don't know. Just because they are –

so famous and they are really like iconic like Victoria's Secret like angels so you would think they would have like some say at least I hope but yeah it is interesting I think in my 50s it's like I probably would wear a bodysuit too you know what I mean just because like I probably should wear one now actually but I don't I don't know I don't know it's kind of

Maybe, I think even as I, like, my age is 36, I do feel like I like to cover up more. Like, it does feel weird to, like, like in the Katy Perry video where my boobs are out. Like, it does feel weird. So maybe just when you're older, you just feel, like, more, like, you don't want to be exposed as much. You're like, I've been exposed. Like, Pamela Anderson, she's like, I'm just going to, like, cover up. That's what I would assume because I'm, like, halfway there. I'm, like, or more than halfway there. So then I'm like, I already feel like I should cover up more. Maybe just feel that way. Or just feel more comfortable. Yeah. You know? I don't mind enjoying my belly. Like, I would, I'll be naked if someone asked me to for, like, a movie. But I just, like, feel like, yeah, like, in my everyday, like, cover up.

it was like so interesting because I remembered like you really do forget sometimes like cancellations and stuff because I'm like I

I forgot it was like the first one in like six years since like 2019 when they got canceled for like being like. Oh. Do you remember? In 20, what year? 2019? It was 2019 was their last one. Oh, wait, really? Oh, I thought it was just canceled because of like COVID or something. No, it's because they had all this backlash because like, oh my God, I don't remember the exact specifics, but I remember they were like anti-trans and then like also were like, didn't want like plus size girls and stuff. They said they're anti,

they were like trans girls uh they wouldn't have a trans uh angel on the runway because it's not like the fantasy or something and remember nikita dragon did her whole like victoria's secret like response where she's like no trans girls are the fantasy and then she had those angel wings she actually was really good they should have nikita do it that would have been such a great comeback so fierce right now her body's actually like the thickest body oh my god that would have been a crazy comeback for her did they have trans girl they had two trans models yeah okay that's cute yeah and they had the plus size so they were like oh

I guess now we need to- They're trying to catch up, so. I mean, I guess that's good. I think that's why I'm saying, like, cancellations sometimes are good because then people can, like, learn. Yeah, it's easy. Be like, whoever's making the decisions at, like, Victoria's Secret are like, oh, okay, we were wrong. Yeah, honestly, yeah, you kind of nailed it. Yeah. It's like, it's like,

It gives feedback. Like, in the cancellation, right? Even with, like, your stuff, you know, you always say that, like, yeah, like, you kind of had to hear those things. Yes. Although it's, like, yes, very aggressive. But, like, there are nuggets of wisdom in there. Yeah. Like, when you can, like, step back from it and, like, they're a company. They're probably just, like, let's just try and make money and, like, whatever. But, like, me, it's, like, when you can, like, step back from it, you're kind of like, oh, okay. I kind of see. I see where it's coming from. And in doing my book, I'm, like, going through all my cancellations again and I was, like,

No, I definitely understand where it came from. You know what I mean? In my head, it went so different. And then you rewatch it, and I'm like, oh, I see it now. You know what I mean? And thank God. Thank God people tell me certain things, because I say wild stuff. And Victoria's Secret was wild. They all were wild. Remember, it was like,

I guess I missed the – I didn't know about the anti-trans thing. That's wild. But, like, I remember, like, Lululemon, Victoria's Secret, Abercrombie, all of them were, like, no fatties allowed. We only make clothes for skinny people. And I was, like, damn. I remember I did videos for all of them. I did a Lululemon video. I did a Victoria's Secret one. Oh, when there was – Yeah, I did an Abercrombie Fitch one, too. I remember telling Abercrombie. Really? It was called Abercrombie Hates Fat People. And I think I took it down. But I think they tried to sue me. I'm, like, trying to remember. Oh, you did, like, responses? Yeah, I would do, like – Oh, I thought you did, like, brand deals. I was, like, oh.

No. They're like, we don't want you, Chevo. And I remember I did a response to Abercrombie a long time ago on my beach one because it was literally like, we don't want fat people to wear our clothes. And I was like,

Well, your clothes are ugly. Like, you know, I love Abercrombie, though. I love them now, yeah. Although, now they're, like, their original CEO. Mike Jeffrey. That same one who said we hate fat people. It all is not. Like, it came out, and I feel like, I'm like, this makes sense. Like, it was, like, the least shocking kind of allegations because the former CEO. Is it, like, so hard to see out of your eye patch? It's so funny. My left eye is my bad eye anyway, so it's not terrible. I know, I'm trying to tell you.

I'm trying to take it serious. But it is hard to read. You're like this and then you're this. And I was like, just to make sure you're comfortable. It's like.

Isn't Halloween costumes really the worst? Like, cosplaying is awful. Like, you're just not comfortable in it. It is, yeah. I love it, but it's just like, and it looks so cool, but it's not practical. Yeah, it's not at all. I'm thankful that at least we're stationary, you know, and just sitting. Yeah. Because it's the worst when you have to, like, are at an event and you're cosplaying. Oh, yeah. No, that's a lot. Yeah. Just being uncomfortable. I don't drag queens because I feel like that must be ten times worse. Ten times worse. And you're performing. Performing, tight, tucking, wigs, makeup, like, heels. I mean, they're athletes. Yeah.

Literally. The heels they wear. I mean, everyone always clocks me anytime we've had a queen on our show. Like, I'm always wearing, like, flats and they're always in their big ass heels. They're like, not the shoes, Trish. And I was like, I can't. Like, how do they do that in their heels? It's like, no, they're athletes. They're performers. Like, they're the true. Yeah, for sure. But...

Anyways, yeah. No, this guy's always been a POS. He's always looked so scary. He literally looks like a beast. Yeah. He's terrifying. So what – I don't like to talk about gross and dark things, but he was trafficking children or women or what? No, like models. Basically – Models? Yeah. So basically it was this former CEO, Mike Jeffries, and then there was two other guys as well. It was – another one was his partner, Matthew Smith, is also –

was also arrested. And then the third man was, um, Jim Jacobson. So they're kind of like, they were all accused of sexually exploiting and abusing young men at parties, um, in the U S but also around the world. And basically like, obviously it's like very litigious, but the gist of it is they would like, um, scout these like male models. And then in order to, um,

They would, like, quote-unquote audition. So there was one round where they would go and, like, kind of, like, it was casting couch vibes. Oh, my God. And then after that, the next step was taking them to, like, these different parties and stuff. And it was, like, they would promise them, like, they would get casted in, like, Abercrombie campaigns, but they would have to have sex with them. And then there was also an element. Oh, my God. That's where the trafficking happened.

I think part comes in where it wasn't consensual because they would give them different like drugs and alcohol. And also like they would hire staff to like,

lock the door so they couldn't like leave so that's where like the loss of consent comes for sure but for sure so how did this all come about how did this i think it started with a documentary that came out kind of recently yes that's what um i was watching long crime to like break it down but they were saying like really a lot of like the documentaries or like they even like the docudramas like you know the uh monster america uh menendez brothers ones like they do start like a lot of

dialogue and discussion that makes people who can have the power, like, go and investigate and look at things and then start building cases and stuff. So that's kind of what happened here where there was, like, these people came forward for the documentary and then it made the... I think it came out of New York. So it made them go out and, like, investigate. And now is he, like, in jail? Is he arrested? Is he out? They've been arrested, yeah. So...

Do you hold them till court? Like, how does that work? I think they're still I don't think they paid bail. I don't think. But yeah, the three of them were arrested in New York. I mean, the prosecution comes from the Eastern District of New York. So it's kind of like the similar I think like R. Kelly was also the Eastern District of New York. And yeah, they're arrested in Miami.

And then, yeah, it hasn't gone to trial or anything, so everything is still, like, alleged. But, yeah, it all kind of makes sense. Oh, my God. That is so dark. Like, when you think about it. Because, you know, you, like, look at that and you're like, oh, my God, that looks so glamorous. Like, everything looks so... The P. Diddy parties look glamorous. Playboy parties look glamorous. And then it's like that. You have the dark side of all of it. It's crazy. Oh, my gosh. And I think, too, it was, like... I think it was... The accusations went back to, like, 2008, I believe. So I think they...

jumped on it now before like Statue of Limitations was up so that is interesting yeah it is it's so sad but I'm glad that stuff all comes out now I feel like back then people just got away with everything it seems to be that era where people were like it's like kind of before social media like really and so everyone's just kind of doing whatever I remember there's like a clip of Ashton Kutcher like saying like oh my god it was like so much better before social media because we would just go to clubs and do whatever and it's like

And now we know everything we know about that whole 70s show cast and Ashton Kutcher and Pete. It's like, oh, okay, that's why you didn't like social media. He's like, no, you can't go out and have fun. It's like, you can't drug people. Yeah.

Like, easily. And especially, too, because he's – the former CEO is 80. So I feel like he probably thought, you know, oh, like, it's all done or whatever. And then now it's like, hmm. Even if it's a lot later in life, you know. No, yeah. And actually, like, that's the worst time to go to prison is, like, the end of your life because then you're, like, dying in prison. You know what I mean? This could be your time. But good. Keep going after those old people because they were awful and they deserve justice, you know. Or no, not justice. What do they deserve? The victims deserve justice. Punishment. Yeah. Yeah.

This is why I can never be a lawyer. I remember as a kid, I always said I wanted to be a lawyer. And I always just said, the only lawyers I have ever heard was like criminal defense. I'm like, I want to be a criminal defense lawyer. And I didn't know that meant you had to defend criminals. And I was like, oh, no. Right? Is that what they do? Yes. Yeah. I don't want, like, I couldn't ever do that. I was like, I want to know, I want to defend like the anti-criminal, whoever's not the criminal. Sometimes criminals are wrongly charged, you know, so. Oh, okay. Like, oh, right. But it is, it's all, it is hard. I don't know how people could do it. Cause it's like.

obviously like that's one of your rights right it's like you have um you're you have a right to like a lawyer right even if you're arrested representation yeah you have to be represented oh what does that give you just like a crappy lawyer t then that's what i feel like that happens a lot isn't that like an adelvie like you remember that story like it started like that or something like the court appointed yeah the the lawyer and it was y'all whole

No, I mean, he was like a nobody or nothing. And then I love that. They're like the whole story. Do you think Cornuport and shadow Cornuport are lawyers? But do you think they're like not that good? I don't know. I think they're the beginning of their career. Oh, OK. So that makes more sense. They're like newbies. So the ones that are like expensive, just been around for a while. Probably. Like how does Gloria Allred get paid? Isn't she pro bono? That's what I'm saying. So like, isn't that mean you work for free?

Right, yeah. And then you get paid after. You start for free. And you hope to win, but what if you never win the case and then you never get money? So you just work for free for years? You know? I have no idea. Yeah, then you have to switch jobs.

profession which professions yeah if you're that bad and you just end up oh you know you can be you can be a restaurant making awful food and you're just it's not for you right right lawyers are constantly losing i wonder if like before you sign on with a lawyer you can ask for their track record like how many cases have you won yeah that's the good ones that charge a lot that's how they charge it yeah like lawyers are expensive that's wild well shout out to all the lawyers doing pro bono court appointed in criminal defense for the wrong after i

Actually, I think today we find out if the Menendez brothers get appealed, right? Oh, yeah. Is it today? I think so. I saw it today. We should keep that checking because I think today is when they find out, which is like kind of wild. That'd be absolutely insane. Yeah. I saw like a family member came forward, you know, on Twitter. Yeah. And they were like, I think today's the day we'll know if they get out or something or they get at least an appeal, which is crazy because it's all because of Ryan Murray. Like low key. I mean, it kind of made like a weird movie on it, but.

That's why people are talking about it. So yeah, even though it sensationalized a lot of it, I guess maybe it enraged a lot of people, which made the push like even bigger. So to find a silver lining in all of it, even though he rage raided. Yeah. But you know, Kim Kardashian, who is his bestie, is the main like leader and like trying to get them out. So I bet she will. That could be a great storyline. They probably work together on the next.

you know, the next show is about her taking them out, getting them out of prison. That's what I'm saying for the next season because we talked about that, how you're talking about PR training, how it's always like going back to whatever they're promoting and she said that on the variety or whatever. She's just like, oh yeah, like, you know, he's like, oh, what do you think about the Menendez Brothers? I hope they do. Ryan Murphy did a great job with Monsters. Now that you said that, I'm like, oh, I always hear that now with the throwback. So that's what I'm going to do. Every time I'm on a red carpet or red carpet podcast, I've been visiting myself there. Oh,

We have the right carpet upstairs. I just didn't ask you a hard question. Well, podcast. Next time I'm on Soul Boom, I'll just redirect it back to Jess Trish. I'll be like, you know what? But it brought me to Jess Trish and that's fine. Like, that's actually so smart. Thanks for the PR training. The mini lesson. Um,

Well, I'm so glad. That guy, I always hated him. I really did. I'm glad that he's getting... Like Bill Cosby, too. It's like, they're like, oh, he's old, but it's like... Yeah, that's another one they forget about. Weinstein. Oh, is he done? He's in prison forever? Yeah. Pretty much. That's good. Yeah. And I do like Abercrombie's rebrand, though. I do like the clothes now, I gotta say. And I like that it's brighter in there. I could never see a thing. Oh.

Oh, I like when it smells like cologne everywhere. Does it still smell like that? They still have the same colognes, I think, but it's not as, like, fragrant. Do they still have the abs and stuff on the bags? No. Oh, is no men anywhere? No, not, like, gratuitous. No, I think they have, like, regular, like, guys wearing clothes, but not, like, shirtless. Did you think it was gratuitous back in the day? Um...

I think it just felt normal back in the day because like a lot of advertising was like that, right? Yeah. It was very much like body sex appeal vibes and I remember just being like, can never shop at that store because I was too chunky. Well, that's the same with me. I did only go up to a size 10. I can never either but...

I don't think it was – I mean, maybe I'm misremembering. Like, obviously, the stages to get there were bad, but I just felt like it was just shirtless. It wasn't anything crazy, right? Like, it wasn't, like, pubic hair coming out of the belt. I don't know. I think especially compared to advertising now – because remember when Challengers was coming out, like, everyone was, like, posting these old, like, Abercrombie ads? Yes. And some of them were kind of crazy. Oh, okay. Like, Challenger style? Yeah. Like, the guys would have, like, no underwear with the jeans, so it was, like, really low and, like – Oh, so they did have that. Okay. Yeah. Yeah.

I guess maybe it's a lot. And it would be like threesomes almost. Like there would be a girl and two guys making out and stuff. Which is kind of normal now, I feel. Yeah. I don't know. Yeah, it's hard to say. Because isn't there one where like... Didn't Cindy Sweeney do one super sexy lately? Oh, yeah. That one commercial. That we talked about. Yeah. So it's like... I guess it was like a nice change to have like guys be like super sexy too. Because I feel like it sells, you know? Yeah. Or they have age, I guess. They were of age, right? I guess we should think that first. Honestly, it's tea. I would...

Right? Wouldn't they have to? Because he had to be 18. I don't know. Yeah, I would hope, yeah. And then, like, when they had the models, like, outside shirtless, that was a crazy job, too. I don't remember that.

Like, wait, someone else told this story or I heard it somewhere else where someone's like, oh, yeah, or maybe they were that person. Maybe it was on TikTok where that person was the one that had to stand out there. What does that mean? They were almost like greeters almost, but they were standing out like outside of a store shirtless. Yeah. And you could like take photos with them. Were they models or just people who applied for a job at the mall? I don't think they were professional models. I think they were just hot people who could work at Abercrombie.

- Well, I know there are people that went to those parties with them and went through all the horrible. - Definitely not in my hometown. Rockford, Illinois, Abercrombie did not have those. They were not. - They did here in the Grove. - They had shirtless models. - Way back, oh for sure. - Yeah.

Oh, my God. Even Topanga. Okay, Topanga. If you were an Abercrombie model of age, let us know. I guess it is weird to now, like, older person to look back. Maybe I would look at those and be like, oh, my God, that was a lot. But I remember back as, like, a kid, like, loving those bags. And I was like, oh, I want to have one of those bags, you know, to take home. Never did because I was the same. I couldn't fit into anything. But I liked the idea. All those cute girls wore Abercrombie. I know. They looked so good in them. And then I just, like, zip up and said Abercrombie and Fitch. Yeah. Yeah.

I wouldn't want to wear them now anyways. I don't know. You said it's cute, but I don't know. They really rebranded, so... And they're very, like, size-inclusive now. And they're cute. I like it now, yeah. Well, we'll have a rebrand. I guess that's true. I guess, yeah. I did Playboy yesterday, and it's all females and gays now. Yeah, see? And it's actually everything. And I was like, I love it. And it was like... And they're, like, recreating, like, covers and stuff. It's really cool. And it doesn't feel, like, skeezy anymore. Yeah. It's like... Because back in the day, it was, like, all, like, straight photographers. Obviously, Hugh Hefner was all straight people. And now it's, like... And not that straight people are bad. I'm just saying straight men. Straight men.

Straight men making a women. Like, I guess the magazine was always for men, but now I really do feel like it's for, you know. That is so true. I do forget that it really was. I guess because in my head, I just think of Girls Next Door and that to me was so, like, girly. Yeah. That I forget that, like, Playboy was for the male gaze. Yeah. But, like, I don't know.

I don't know. It was still, like, cute. Like, Girls Next Door was still, like, cutesy to me. They made it for the girls and gays, for sure. Because I feel like before then, it was so... Like, I remember, like, seeing the Playboy, and it would be, like, behind. Like, they would censor it. Like, if you, you know, like, you had the silver thing. And it literally says Entertainment for Men on the cover of all the old ones. And, yeah, they really... It used to be that. And I feel like when the Girls Next Door came along, it really made, like...

the girls love it and the gays love it and everything like that. And it became more girly. But yeah, it used to be like – and when you hear the history of Playboy, it's like dark. But they did a whole like rebrand. I think even before Hugh Hefner's death, I don't think he was like involved with it. But now they've really done a full rebrand where it's like women, obviously body positivity. Like it was cool. So okay, fine. I support Rob Crumpy then now.

Not Mike Jeffries. We hate him. But I'm sure they want to distance themselves from them. We're like, not us. Like, don't bring us down. I know. Because I think that rebrand happened, like, I think maybe, like, 20, what, 2019, 2018 or something? I mean, a little late, but. Yeah, better late than never, I suppose. Same with Victoria's Secret, right? 2019 was the year of everyone getting canceled. Everyone got woke, yeah. I like that.

I like that. It's like 2021 was like a reset. Like, what the hell happened? Everyone's like, okay, we're in our house. Let's rethink how we think about the world. Her values. Yeah. Okay. I like it. I'm here for it. Took long enough, but...

Whoever was running those companies at the time that made these statements of being anti-trans and fatphobic was wild. I know. Like, that was really going to – the stance. Especially for, like, the consumer, right? Like, the consumer is changing. Like, you know, people are becoming more body positive. So as a company, you can't, like, survive like that. You know what I mean? Like – I guess they're just in the old school. It's just old people running these. That's why I love this, like, new generation. That's why Elvira needs to hire, like, a Gen Z to help her with her social media. Like, who's that one guy that you like? That one older gentleman? Yeah.

On TikTok. Who comments on your TikTok. Kevin McLaughlin. Yes. You're so polite about it. You're like the older gentleman. He does like, whoever runs his account slays so hard. He called me queen. He's like, queen. He was good. Like, Omar does neither that. He does the apple dance. So, okay. Moses told me this morning, Bowen Yang doing the apple dance. Was that an old clip? Wait, I haven't seen it. But I think it was him. Josh says, was he dressed as Charlie XDX or was he dressed as? Oh, I thought he was dressed as Brittany Broski. So I was like, is this like, are they practicing? Oh, maybe.

Because he had the black wig on. But you said Charlie XCX has a black wig. Or black hair. He has black hair. Yeah, black curly hair. Maybe it was an old clip. Because I know he played her before in a skit. So maybe it was an old one. But Moses showed me something. And I thought it was Britney. I thought he was doing a parody of Britney Broski. And I was like, holy crap. That would be so iconic. Oh my god. If my ex-co-worker was parodying on SNL. That would be wild. That would be crazy. Did you see Charlie even shouted him out again? No. Oh my god. What did she say? Bad or good? Bad. Okay, good. Okay.

At the San Francisco show. I think it was, I think this was Monday. I think Monday night. She was like, okay, keep it cute for the Apple dance. Don't be like that one guy in LA. If you're cute, we're going to show you. Don't be like that one guy in LA. I was like, damn. She hates him. No statement from him yet? No statement.

Not even from your co-worker? You didn't go around? No? Nothing? We did not hear back. Do you think he's, like, embarrassed? I think so, yeah. Because he looked like he'd be loving it. And he'd be the one to, like, capitalize off of it. But you think he's embarrassed? No, I think he's... Like I said, I think he just is so main character energy and did not have any self-awareness at all in that moment. Yeah. And then...

Kind of like what you were saying about when you, looking back at your cancellations, you're like, oh, that wasn't the move. You know, I think for him, he like saw everyone talk about it. He's like, yeah, that probably wasn't the move. That's good. That's good then. You know, that's what I'm saying. Like people just have to learn. I'm always about people like make mistakes. Learning, unlearning. Learning, unlearning.

lesson. I don't think we're going to see that again. You know? I mean, no violence is kind of a pretty simple lesson. No, but I think he was so excited. But it's the violence part that was the problem. But he didn't punch her. He was just like so excited. He gave her an elbow. He like, you know. I mean, he tackled her off the screen to oblivion. It was a shove. It was a shove. And I think he just, you know, look, I'm not trying to defend, but you know, I get the excitement, you know. I'm saying run, make your way in there, put a cute face. He...

It was a lot. It was violent. It was a lot. I agree with you, but he's probably going to learn to not, to go slower. Like, you know, like just slowly. If it's meant to be, it'll be. You know what I mean? Yeah. Like if you're just, if you're living and then they put the camera on you, then do the apple dance, but don't push your way into it. But sometimes in life you got to make things happen for yourself. Oh my God, that's true. That is true. Isn't that crazy? The conflicting lessons we're taught in life. It's like, just wait your turn. So which one do you follow? Yeah.

of a waiter but like i wait wait wait but as soon as i started going for things like later in life like in my 30s i feel like i started getting more things because i was always like what's meant for me will be mine i'm just gonna wait here in my house but like you're not gonna be the love of your life in your house actually i did i was dm'd during quarantine so i literally had to just wait in my house and i met him so i don't know i don't know actually i don't know i guess you got to think about the the return on it right like what was the return of getting on screen for the apple dance famous

And more famous than any other Apple dancer in San Francisco, that's for sure. It's crazy. Those Apple dances are wild. They need to stop. I'm scared about the sweat tour. I don't know. I wish you would have gone. I do wish I would have gone too. You love that dance. You've always loved it. I love the dance. I still don't know how to do it though. It's not great, my friend.

I mean, no offense to the person who created it. Kelly. Shout out Kelly. Yeah, shout out Kelly. I just didn't love the trend. But yeah, I like our Cat's Eye one better. It was cuter. The Touchwood is really cute. Yeah, that one was cute. That was the cover of something I saw. What was the cover of? Some magazine. Pop Crave. Pop Crave tweeted it. I honestly think we gave... This is me being delusional. Like, Pop Crave really started covering Cat's Eye after we did the dance. Really? So... You think they're...

And I know Pop Crave listens. So shout out. Do they? Shout out Pop Crave. They just talked about Spencer Sutherland's new album. And this is such a niche TikToker that I thought I only knew about. But apparently he's like very big and everywhere. Because he was like, he was down to come on the podcast. And I did it, you know, and I was like, okay, I'll make it happen. I didn't think anything of it. I saw Pop Crave tweet about his new album. And I was kind of like, do you know him at all?

He's very, he's kind of niche. He's kind of like a Freddie Mercury type. I mean, he has followers, but I don't know, Pop Crave tweeted about him and his album just came out and he auditioned for Fiero. He's kind of like more mainstream than I thought. I love him so much. So Spencer Lynn, he's coming, hopefully he'll come on soon. I don't know when, but we have talked about it. But I love that Pop Crave tweeted about him. I was like, that's kind of everything. I,

I feel like once you're on Pop Crave, you've like made it. Yeah. You know, you're like, oh, that's like something. Yeah, honestly. I feel like Pop Crave and Pop Bass are like really good like litmus tests of like what is trendy, what's cool. Yeah. Are they the same thing? Honestly, I'm very confused about Pop Crave and Pop Bass because they tweet the same things like so similar. Yeah.

that i don't like am i confused about or is it the same owner same employees i have no idea yeah and why is it so similar of a name no idea but then there's also like pop teams i don't know i love all the pop golds or twitter accounts too much pop there is there's a lot of pop there is a lot of pop but i do love them all what do you call like when you like if you if you're drinking dr pepper in a can what would you call that like i want a what a dr pepper in a can no well it says it's dr pepper okay you would say soda yeah

What would you say? Soda. You would say you want a soda? Yeah. We always said pop. We always wanted a pop. Really? Yeah. Well, you are a Midwest princess, I suppose. Is that a Midwest thing? I think so. A pop. What is the other one called? It's soda pop. Oh, some people just call everything a Coke. Really? Yeah. I've heard people, like, if they want a Sprite, I go, could you give me, like, a Coke? I thought you were just going to Coke. Right. That's true. And what's a sody pop? I heard that, too. Sody pop? Yeah. I've never heard that. That's so cute, though. I love the way you said that. I kind of like that. Sody pop. Who said it? I've heard it. Who? Who?

You look so cute over there. Oh, my God. That's so funny. I love the wig. It looks like an old painting of some. You do look like an old painting. I like it. I think I can transition to Dracula from this. It does get Dracula vibes weirdly. Maybe it's the collar. Yeah, that's pretty good. I like that. Oh, my God. I really had to get my teeth checked. I put, I won't say the brand. I put whitening strips on it the other day. And like instantly, it just like gave a shock in my system. And I was like, I need to go to the dentist because that's not good. It like shocked my nerves.

Nerves. Like gums, nerves. Yeah. And you know what always scared me? Back to Zain Hijazi. Zain said recently that like he went to the dentist and they said like if you don't, if you let it go for too long where it stops hurting, that's not a good sign because it can go up to like your brain and cause brain damage. What? And I'm like, I need to get this looked at. He scared me so. Yes, like our gums are connected to our brains a lot. Like I remember I had something and that's why I took care of it because I was like, I

I didn't want it to affect because it affects your even mental health. I didn't know. I need to go. I need to go. When did Zane say this? See? I'm a fan. I see clips of him all the time on my thing. A couple weeks ago, I think he went. And I think it was on the Pretty Basic Unfiltered podcast. I saw Zane and Matt King like really influencing your medical decisions, by the way. Because it was Matt King with his skin cancer. Yes. And I went to go to check. Thank God for these influencers. Life coaches in there.

Because I would just let it go. I was like, whatever, their teeth or whatever. But then when he said that, I was like, oh my God, that's actually so scary. So shout out Zayn for saving me. And they really ate with their Halloween costume. I finally saw it. Did you watch it? Yeah. They were good, unfortunately. They ate. And they committed and they did a whole bit. They did a whole like. I loved it. Yeah.

I would love to go on pretty basically unfiltered. Same. Me too. We really came full circle. I mean, I'll never go on pretty basically unfiltered because I'm sure they would have. For bands. I think Heath and Zayn are more scared than, Remedy and Alicia, they're so sweet to me. Love them. But Heath and Zayn are scared always, which, you know what? Keep them in fear. I like it a little bit. You know? That was always the crazy thing with the vlog squad is like, yeah, they talk about it.

I would love to see like low-key anonymous like...

I know. Spill Sash really had it figured out when she was anonymous. Yeah. Like, that was so cool because you could say whatever. Like, I really – that would have been cool. Okay, I'll do one. It's so much better to be anonymous sometimes with those kind of things because then you can just be more free to say anything. I wish I could be anonymous with things I hear all the time, but –

Now with IP tracking, you can never be anonymous. That's obviously tea. Lady Blissadown would not survive anymore. No, she would have been clocked pretty expeditiously, I think. These are reminding me of Parasol. Parasol always wears hand gloves. I have two Penelope cosplays and she always wears these gloves. I was like, gosh, she was really ahead of her time.

Pretty amazing. God, I wish I could be on Bridgerton right now that's filming. Maybe they'll see this and then cast me. Fly me over. Maybe an English teacher, you can play like a Bridgerton-esque character. I come teach in costume. Yes. I would love to be an English teacher. Oh, my God. Well, he said he'd want to come on Just Trish. When? No, he didn't. Oh, you never saw that? Recent? Yeah. Someone commented on his TikTok, go on Just Trish. And he said, I would love to. That sounds so fun. Oh.

Let me know when. Anytime, any day. We'll do a pod swap, but you get an English teacher. Yeah.

i've been your tv show come on mine that would be crazy and i loved you and jane the virgin you were your character was a menace but you were fabulous in it because you really hated the character and i think that's the whole point is like them he was great he was wonderful oh my god wow that's big he said yes where it was in his comment section i'll have to find this screenshot oh my god i don't believe it that's so funny oh my god he's so fierce oh my god that's

Oh my God, that's so cool. Yeah, English teacher. I'm telling you, again, not spawn, but it's a great show. Is he gay? Brian Jordan Elvis? Yes, he is. Oh my God, I kind of love this person. That's so cool when you get a TV show made. Literally, my photographer this morning was like, you should do your own movie based on your life. I'm like, that's so hard to do. I love it.

But like, I don't know if that's going to happen. I don't think I can just make a movie. She goes, no, you can. And I was like, yeah, but I need money and production and time and crew. Like, it's just not that easy. But I like the idea. I like when people make it like Baby Reindeer. I like that he made that. Like, how did he make it? You know? Yeah. And then same, I mean, because Brian Jordan Alvarez was also like a content creator for, like he did YouTube and he does like TikTok skits and stuff. And then he got a show made. So. I guess I'm wondering.

guess someone just has to like see you and believe in you just do a minute at a time on your tiktok just do one minute at a time

I thought about that with my tavern because I have the script. I'm like, what if I just like leak like a minute per, you know what I mean, a page per day? Oh, like Ryan Reynolds. That's how he got Deadpool made was he leaked like the test footage of himself as Deadpool and everyone loved it. That Fox was like, I guess we have to make this. Oh my God, that's actually so smart. I just start reciting my own. Okay. You have to leak the footage. But then when you send it to like PopBase or something, they leak it. Then you're like, oh my God, I can't believe this leaked. Oh.

That's so good. You have to set it up. I like this. Okay, I'm getting it. Okay, that's smart. Because all these people are getting it that way. And I'm like, okay, how am I missing this mark? Oh my God. I just texted my agent saying, I'm like, okay, so was Little Top of Horror as a no? Because...

Oh, my God. Shout out. I think her name is Melissa Victor. They had their first. I think it was the first plus size Audrey or just not a size zero Audrey. And I was so excited for her. Oh, my God. I was like, oh, my God. It gave me hope to be Audrey because I know like realistically I'm not an Audrey. But then like seeing I was like, oh, my God, she looks so good. They did costumes for her body. She looks so fierce. So bring it back out there. I think it's closing pretty soon. But I want to be on a little top of horror so bad. And it had a five year run. And all they do is stunt casting.

God, I really want to be on it. So please, someone out there. I think they said they told them once and they said, yeah, we're aware she wants to do it. We've heard. We've heard. But please. We've seen the music video. Let alone, that was my Deadpool leak. You know what I mean? Like, here, look at all the parts they can do. I know all the songs. God, that's like such my dream. I don't know. Well, we're still trying. I'm going to New York somehow, some way. Oh, wow. Oh, gosh, I just ripped this.

Oh, no. Did you hear it? I heard something, but I'm not sure what it was. How did it rip? Okay, well, that's fine. I was going to have some tea, but... She really had a glow-up from season one, didn't she?

Why do they make her look so... I can't see. You're like, go look. No, it's always the choice of yellow. That's never a good color for anyone. Maybe they purposely try to make her unattractive. I mean, she's not unattractive here. She looks fine. But the third season where she's leading, she's just so... Yeah, because they moved her from those yellow dresses to those green yellow dresses. Oh, yeah, the jewels. And they push her boobs up. Yeah, she looked good. And of course, we have our... And I do drink those teas. They're good. You like this one. You like the Anthony and Kate one. Yeah, the Chai one is so good.

I was going to have you do the Anthony dialogue, but people, because you kind of look like him too. You could look like any of the Bridgerton brothers, really. Like they all kind of dress the same, right? There's no distinction between Colin and Anthony and Benedict. Maybe we'll do that. Got to learn that monologue. I could be Kate. She's gorge. What's she doing now? She's modeling. Is it the bane of my existence one or which one? Yeah. Do you know that one? Just that word. There's that sentence. That was pretty good. You are the bane of my existence and the object of all my desire. He's great. When is he coming on? God, I would love him to come on. Who? Who?

I can't see it. I won't say the name, but I love him so much. Oh, okay. I can guess. Yeah. The context clues. I just never want to be creepy, you know? I just really don't want to creep anyone out because, like, that's your biggest fear as a fan is, like... Doing too much. Yeah. Yeah, I feel you. Because, you know, I saw, like, I don't know. I'm, like, was it Gabby? Gabby DeMartino. I was, like, I was trying to think. Did you see? She did the espresso. Yeah, she did the Domingo SNL skit with Ariana Grande. And then she crushed the cosplay, but all the

the comments were like, okay, this is weird, this is creepy. Like, not all of them. People were like, this is great, but so many people were like, oh, like, Arnie hates this. And I'm like, God, it would suck to be, like, such a fan and have one have the fandom hate you, which I know from experience. My chemical romance fandom, like, did not like me at the beginning. Now they're cool with me. But, like, me dressing as Gerard Way and everyone like, stop, you know? But,

So I get it. But it's also like, but you want to have fun and like dress up like you're a person. Yeah. I think maybe it's just because she looks like, like you kind of said the other day, like she looks so much like her. So maybe, but she is such a fan. And at least she did. Gabby did get in the thank you next video. She did get invited to a wicked screening. Like, yeah.

Yeah. So I think if she was blacklisted from like Ariana Grande's team, she wouldn't be like invited to a Wicked screening. Right. That's true. That's true. So I think at least like I don't think Ariana would hate Gabby, right? Like because she wouldn't be in the Thank Your Next video or like still be getting little nuggets. Like if Taylor hated me, I wouldn't be invited to Aris tour, you know? Do you think they would ever block anyone? Like do you think if like Taylor's like, oh, he's talking too much about me, like don't let him come in?

I can't confirm. I know that it's happened before. Really? Can't confirm or deny? Yes. I can't confirm. At least I've heard. I've heard that it's happened before. Whoa. Not from anything official, just from like stand tour. But like what? Like someone just fanning too hard or like showing up to her house? Just being too much. Yeah.

That's my fear. That's what I'm saying. Okay, so that fear is rational. It's a rational fear. Yeah, but I think, like, the appearance has a lot to do with it, if that makes sense. The appearance? Like, how attractive someone is? No, like, if you copy someone's, like... Like, Gabby, for example, looks so much like Ariana, you know, that it makes sense why someone would get upset. So I think if you, like, mimic the...

the mannerisms, like the posture, if you already kind of look like them, but then you get like some things done to look even more like them. Yeah. And it's like too much. Yeah. Yeah. I would avoid any celebrities. I was really obsessed with truly. I always said I would avoid it. Cause I just never want to be like, Oh, scared. Cause I, okay. Maybe I shouldn't say this, but it did happen one time to me that I think someone like was scared. Um,

I don't know if it's true. Like maybe it's like in my head but I don't think so. Also because the fandom. There is one fandom that thinks I'm like a little creepy and it's the Christian Borle fandom. It's very weird. It's very like niche. It's like you know who Christian Borle is? The Broadway guy. Yeah. Yeah. So for some reason like I don't know that fandom does not like me. It's really weird. I love Christian Borle. He's on Smash. Like he's

Anyways, weirdly enough, he opened Little Shop off-Broadway. He was the dentist. He was this. So I saw him five years ago, 2019, when Little Shop, this production that's happening right now, started and Christian Borough was in it. And I was super excited. And the theater is so small. It's a theater that has maybe like 200 seats. Maybe. Maybe even less. It's like the smallest theater. The stage is tiny. Like you're looking down at the stage. You're like on top of the stage basically. Like whoever's singing will like literally spit on you. Like it's like that close. It's amazing. I love it. Everyone's excited. And I love Christian Borough. And I...

want to say I did meet him a year prior I was invited to a media thing for another show he did called popcorn faults and he was like nice you know like he wasn't mean whatever he was nice but um but then I went to go see little shop and he staged doors every night which basically means you go out and meet the fans every single night he staged doors and I've never staged or I've never met stage door to meet people because I'm just so awkward and like weird and I just and I never do it but it was the only night he didn't stage door so everyone on Twitter all the Christian Borle fans were like oh he was probably too scared to come out because Trisha Paytas was in the audience and I but that was the only night he

night he didn't do it and I was front row you know so there's like no way he could miss me I was dressed as Audrey I had my cow dress and my sling like there was no way he could miss me and I was like oh my god maybe that is and I would never say sure that's not me but like

Wow. I'd say it's a coincidence. I don't think so. I don't think so. Because I think he is very serious and I was a little obsessed with him and I think like he's probably like... Yeah, but why did he just come out and say hi to everybody? It's not like... Yeah, but he didn't do that. No, but I'm saying it's not like he came out and he had to, I don't know, talk to you. He just waved to everyone. No, you do talk to him. You take pictures. They always talk to you. They're always like, oh my God, I love you and this. It is like a meet and greet. But I guess he just really didn't want to talk to me. Did you date him or no? No, what? Oh.

Wait, is he straight?

He's straight. All the theater boys are. Well, not all the theater boys, but a lot of them, like Ethan Slater. All the theater boys. But no, the one straight ones are always, they get all the girls. That's why they're all players. Like Christian, I don't know if you hate me more, but he was like a little bit of like a love triangle because like when he did Legally Blonde. Oh, yes. I do remember this. I do remember this.

Him and Laura Ball Bundy got together. He was married to Sutton Foster, who was in another production with somebody. They got together. So it was like this weird love triangle. I think it was pretty common knowledge. I don't think I'm spilling any tea on that. But it was a big thing. And they're always kind of like a little bit, they're just the heartthrobs of it. Because it's like rare that you, not rare anymore. There's a lot of straight people in theater. But like a straight man that sings and dance, it's rare. And it's also very attractive to a lot of people. So I think that's why Ethan Slater. I mean, they all just have that charm where it's like. Tag never seen.

Ted Nefferson, yeah. Yeah. Oh my God, that's right. I love singing with him. We did sing. What did we sing? Like Little Shop of Horrors? Was it Legally Blonde? What did we sing? Legally Blonde, yes. Yeah. I was very impressed that he was in Legally Blonde. See? We love him. We do love Ted Nefferson. What's he doing? Is he like? He just moved. Where? Away? No, he just kind of. From us? He's like, oh my God, too big a fan. California still?

How do you know this? I just see his Instagram story. He said, I moved? Yeah, he like packed up his old apartment, moved to a new one. I don't know where. I'm assuming LA. He's still like playing basketball and stuff. So I'm assuming he's still. I love that for him. He is nice. I like him. Congrats, dad, on your move. God, moving. Are you moving soon? No.

No. No. Okay. I don't know why, but, like, you're going to tell me news one day that you're, like, I'm moving next door. I'd be, like, that would be great. I would love, yeah. You know, that we're, like, a closer commute. Yeah. You're not too far, but it's still. Yeah, it'd be, like, easier. Yeah. I know. Tana was going to look at houses out this way. I was, like, you should. Then we could be, like, right next door. Yeah, she should. She's down for it because she was, like, yeah, I just, like, I'm tired of, like, L.A. and all that stuff like that. But, yeah, you should get a house out here. I think she's going to look soon.

It'd be sick. I would love it. I just would hate it if someone I don't like moves in this area. I'd be like, no. Don't come this way. I don't want to see them at the market or something. Because you do see people that live out here. Like I said, I see LeRae all the time. I'm always like, oh, there he is at our eatery. And it's cool when you like the people. When you don't like the people, it's a whole other thing. Shane and Rylan are not too far. But they're far enough. Yeah, they're far enough. Yeah, even though I haven't.

seen them well i don't think they leave their house oh yeah t yeah which i love that's cool yeah so seeing morgan adams before i see i guess i didn't really technically see her but in the same vicinity as you did see her or she just said she was there at the same time she was at the same time my friend sorry yeah she's a good one i like her yeah she seems like she's doing good um this is so unrelated but i kind of am really interested to get your take on this so you know um you watched part of the menendez brother so you know chloe savinier was the mom

No, I didn't know that. Oh, okay. So in the show. Oh my gosh, you look so different. Yeah. Oh, I love her. So she was the mom. And obviously, Nicholas Alexander Chavez was Lyle. So playing mother and son. And then this video of them went viral. Oh no. No. The kissing? Kind of like, yeah, they look very kissy. Oh my God. It's the four of them. So Javier Bardem is...

Cooper, Coach, Nicholas Alexander Chavez, and Chloe Sevigny. And they're all posing together. Like, Cooper and Javier are posing together. They're all sitting on a couch. Let me play it for you so you can actually see it. But then Chloe and Nicholas look a little bit... Oops. Too close. Is Nicholas gay or straight? He is straight. Oh. Oh.

Can you kind of see that? Oh, oh. It looks intimate, right? Oh. Oh. Oh. Oh, my God. Oh, my God. That's wild. Why are they... Yeah. Oh, wait. Oh, well, then the other two kind of lean in, I guess, together. I guess maybe they're doing just, like, cutesy family pictures. I guess. That was wild. It is wild. But this was at this event. That was crazy. Nicholas was there with his girlfriend, and Chloe was there with her husband. Oh. Oh. That's crazy.

And then they play mother and son. So everyone is like, what is going on here? I mean, I thought maybe if they're both single. I was like, I guess. Like, you know, whatever. Age gap is different when you're a little older. But like, no, no, no. Absolutely not. That's so weird, right? It's weird, yeah. But I mean, who knows? Especially in Hollywood, I feel like there's a lot of open relationships and stuff. So...

Who knows, I guess. But it is weird because you're doing that in public when literally you're getting your photo taken and there's cameras around. I think it would be like if you have an open relationship, it's a little more on the like private. Like people just don't know you're in an open relationship as much. That one is just like, here we are kissing. Yeah, that's why it was – it went viral on TikTok but no one really said anything after that. Yeah, I haven't seen it. Yeah, it's so weird. No, absolutely not. That's so weird. I mean like it would – I guess if it was like Cooper maybe like it's like a cute – because it was like peck.

It wasn't like a full on makeup. So like maybe. But I think it's like what I always say this goes straight and like you're both no you're both like in a hetero relationship like that's kind of I feel like no. Especially like I guess like you know in Bridgerton like it's not like

Penelope and Colin. Like, they're selling the romance. No, this is, like, a mother and son. Yeah, yeah. TTT. Yeah, yeah. And it's not even, like, anything. Like, it's just them, like, being snapped for photos and they're doing it. I wonder if they told him to do that. So weird. Yeah. And, like, obviously people are, like, looking into the body language and stuff because it almost looks like Cooper and Javier, like, see them doing it and that's why they kind of, like, laugh a little bit, you know? Like, okay, let's also get close to each other. Yeah.

No, that's uncomfy. That's so uncomfy. Even if they're dating, it's like uncomfy. It's like, okay, ew, what? Also, you're playing mother-son, so if you're doing press photos, which obviously they're in the family, like, what? That's so... So odd. They took the Bridgerton formula and like, this worked for them. Let's also do this. Even though it's already the number one show and has tons of controversy, let's add a little bit more. That's the plan.

That's the plan, I guess, to get that sequel that Ryan Murphy wants. That is so – I haven't seen that anywhere. It's so odd. What was it, last night? Or when was it? No, it was a couple days ago. But yeah, I keep seeing it like pop up over and over again. I'm like, hmm, that is so odd. Okay. Well, she looks good. But I mean, she's married. I don't know. But like I said, maybe it's open. Maybe they don't care. Maybe they're like, this is my job, honey. Yeah. I have to sell it.

But if you're a girl, like, if you were there, like, okay, if you're in the project, but then Moses is there, but you're still trying to sell it. No, that's what I'm saying. But even me, who I'd be like, okay, I would trust myself. Like, I would trust Moses, like, more than myself. Like, I, none of that. I would not. Like, you don't have to, like, kiss to promote a movie. Yeah. Unless you're, like, in, like,

the new Ten Commandments with Quentin Tarantino. Yeah. And then they're like, okay, you have to kiss your love interest for publicity. It's only if you kiss God. That's only acceptable. Yeah, I think maybe, I don't know. If it's British, yes. If he's in British head and he has to sell a romance, fine, I think. But maybe not kissing. But I'd be like, okay, be cute or whatever. Like the Sydney, Sweeney, Glenn Powell. Yeah, I would say yes. But this is...

People, because they know us together, they'd be like, oh, what about Trisha? You know what I mean? I think if they don't know the partner, maybe it's not as weird. Because I think what Colin – Luke Newton had like a girlfriend the whole time. But people didn't know. So they're like, whatever. And they got mad at the girlfriend. Like, how dare he have a girlfriend? It's like, okay, chill. But I think if you don't know, it's different. As opposed to if you know someone, you know, I don't know. Yeah, the other person's also kind of a public figure.

figure yeah for sure I think yeah I definitely no no kissing for sure I wouldn't do that I wouldn't do that to like even like a straight friend or anything I'm like I don't know it's weird would you no would you get jealous

If it was like this, like it looks like almost – especially it's like for what? You know what I mean? It's like for a random portrait at a party. You know what I mean? Yeah, yeah. It's not acting. Yeah, it's not acting. The show is already out. Like the promotional tour is over. Yeah. You know? The show, like you said, it's number one. It's number one. So why, I guess? Just for funsies. Hollywood is kind of wild that way. It is kind of crazy. But, you know, well –

That's on the digital SNL. Have they ever, any one of the Menendez brothers? No. I feel like Nicholas Alexander Chavez, I keep saying TikToks at him. Maybe that's why. My FYP is very like Nicholas Alexander Chavez. There's all these, there's a compilation of him looking miserable in junkets and stuff. Cooper is kind of smiley and laughy. It cuts to him and he looks like he wants to just not be there at all. Oh, wait, why? I don't know. I think that's just his disposition. I have no idea. He just doesn't want to be there. It's very Mike Feist.

- Oh honestly, yeah. - Never wants to be anywhere. He's like interviews, like okay. - Although I guess Mike Feist, to his defense, I read that like during the Challengers press tour, he had a, one of his parents had just passed away, so that's why he was really sad. - Oh my god, I feel like such a,

This is why I never comment on anybody because then it's like, actually, this just happened. It's like Ariana with Elvira. It's like, actually, she was just in the Manchester, you know? It's like, well, don't you feel like a big piece of poop? Yikes. Okay. Oh, my God. I read about that later, too, because it was very much given, like, he was kind of disassociated through junkets. Oh, okay. Yeah. Yeah.

Yeah. Damn. Okay. Sorry. I'm Mike by a stamp, but I always looked uninterested. Yeah. I know. It did seem like that was like his disposition. Yeah. That's sad. Well, maybe he's going through something. Yeah. Maybe. And it's also like a lot of attention right away. So that also. That's true. Because were they relatively unknown? Kind of like low key. Yeah. I guess Cooper Coach is kind of a nepo baby. Like his grandpa was in the industry. Who was he? And like really big. I think he was kind of producer. I forgot what he did. Let me see.

And that's so interesting. Yeah. We should have him on the podcast. Hawk Coach. No relation to Hawk 2, I hope. Oh, his name's Hawk? Yeah. Hawk? Was he an American gladiator? American film producer. President of, oh, he was the president of the Academy. Oh. And the Producers Guild. Is he still alive? Yeah.

Yeah, he is 78 years old. He runs the Academy. So that kind of makes sense. He runs the Academy Awards? He was the president. Oh, no, former president. So not anymore, I suppose. Yeah, so I guess Cooper is kind of nepo baby tease. Cooper sounds like rich nepo. That is not Cooper Cooke. Grandpa's hawk. Yeah. No, you're definitely nepo.

Well, he's good. He's talented. Is he doing anything? Like, what's his thing coming up? I don't know. He needs another project, but he's kind of just like... He'll be everywhere probably soon. It's like Jacob Lordy. Yeah. He was like everywhere once he did Euphoria. Yeah. This year he's going to be Patrick Bateman in American Psycho. American Psycho. He's like putting his name out there for it. I feel like that's too cliche. I feel like it's like, okay, like, is he the only person that's like good looking and can play all these roles?

Yeah. You know, I don't know. Yeah. He said he hasn't played a serial killer before. Really? Yeah. He looks like one in every movie. I mean, not in a bad way. Because we talk about this. Like, the killers, you know, they don't have to be very attractive. But interesting. Euphoria, he doesn't. I thought he was. Oh, wait. Jacob Elordi? Yeah. Oh, that's talking about Cooper. Oh. But still for Jacob Elordi. Wait, but Cooper did play a killer. Not serial killer. He's like, okay. So he differentiated. Yeah. Why? Did people put his name in the?

Yeah. Cooper put his name in the mix. Oh. Because he was just asked, like, would you play? He's like, yeah, I would love to. And then Jacob Elordi is kind of being fan casted. I think they should do like a gender swap role for this. That would actually be kind of cool. Like Ghostbusters, they have like all female. I feel like I could be a really great Patrick Freeman. I used to do a monologue. I know your name in the ring. Jacob Elordi, Trisha Payne as Cooper Cohn. I would put in this role. I really love it. I think it would be good. I wish you would have worn this on your wedding day.

What? This outfit. Oh, the outfit. What did you think I meant? The wig. Oh. I love the wig on you. How are you feeling in it? I forgot I had long hair in our wedding, so I didn't need the wig. Right. Your hair looked so shiny. It was like a fresh blowout. Moses and Trish talking. My least favorite thing on the internet is couples who have a podcast, and that's what's happening right now. I just think when couples have a podcast, it's like...

You know what I mean? Like there's just so many people. I guess this is like the unplanned pregnancy. I think of them and they're just like toxic. It's just like really just couples just talking about like their problems or they're just too in sync where they like agree with everything and you're just like. I know. For me it used to be painful because I tried to watch Colleen and her husband. Yeah. It was painful because she was not nice to him. They were always just like, yeah, you just, it's like almost like you're witnessing something you shouldn't. And like I try not to, like I think our fights are like cute. It's like about wigs or whatever, but it's like, it's like, you know, but at the, then

the end of it it's like we're not the majority like I do focus a lot on Oscar because it's like we talk all the time so it's always like no but he's the professional you know yeah he also knows so much so yeah I have no idea most of the time but here's our time here's our time to shine as our couples podcast this will never be our own podcast I said it from the beginning I always thought even us like on together because we just agree on so many things and it's just like okay it's kind of boring if everyone just like agrees on everything and

- Yeah. - It's good for a relationship. - To give advice to people, I don't know, something. - No, I hate that too, God. Couples who are like, here's our relationship advice. And then they divorce like a year later. - How to make it work. Find exactly the same people that we found.

Right, exactly. I know. No, I don't like any of it. Okay, if you had to guess, Moses has never seen the Wicked movie. It's like, I'm trying to think of things. I'm like, what does Oscar not care about? And I'm like, this might be it. If you had to guess, actually, he's never seen either. I could ask him, but I don't know. This is more hypothetical questions. This is how I actually talk to Moses a lot. We always talk like this, where I'm like, give him the most hypothetical things. And he's like, do you like these games or no? In real life? It depends on the time of the day. Oh, right. Sometimes I give him hypotheticals. He's like, okay. Without having ever seen Wicked, what do you think the movie is about?

Because he said the other day, he's like, I wish we would see the movie before doing all these cosplays so I can get excited about them. And I was like, yeah, that does kind of suck that I'm making like be all these people and you don't know. So what would your idea of it be roughly like the plot? Is it like, what's the movie we saw Wednesday? She was like, there's like two roommates and they both have special powers. Oh. So there's like, so I'm seeing like there's two witches, right? Yeah.

So there's something, like there's different kind of witches. I don't know. Okay. There's a dynamic there. Well, that's pretty good. They have something to learn from each other. What did you get that off of from? Marketing, music, looks? Just knowing that there's two main, to me in my mind, there's two main characters, two women. Wow. That's pretty good. I mean, that's the poster. That's actually very good, actually. Yeah, it's two witches that are very different. One is called Good and one is called Wicked.

Oh. Because Glinda the Good Witch from Wizard of Oz. But you never really saw Wizard of Oz either fully all the way through, have you? No. I mean, so long ago. Do you know the story? So, okay. So you will get the story. So Glinda the Good Witch is in Wizard of Oz and the Wicked Witch is also in Wizard of Oz. So it's like their story before Oz, basically. It's like the prequel. So it has nothing to do. So I guess that is so interesting that the second movie is basically like a little girl just falling into their world. Yeah. She's such a little part of Wicked. Yeah.

Yeah, but yeah. She's in Wicked too? Because I thought that was like everything before. Yeah, well, yeah. It's not really a spoiler, but yeah, she has like a little tiny part in Wicked. But it's a very small part of their story. It's actually really cool if you like watch the words of Oz, how Wicked became to be and it's like really cool. Well, that's pretty good. I can't wait to watch it because this preview we saw, just the design of everything. It's going to be cool. Yeah, the sets and stuff. It's so pretty and beautiful. No, it's the best experience of my entire life seeing that movie. I'm like going to cry. Like I like...

It's just going to be so cool when we get to see it together. I feel like this one is like the best, best, best. Like I liked Beetlejuice. It was cute. Beetlejuice is kind of dark. When we were watching it, I was like, I love Beetlejuice. I love Beetlejuice, you know, but I guess I didn't realize. I must have really liked that movie when I was like depressed or something. Like with the idea of the afterlife being like,

kind of cool and kind of fun. But like watching it now, I'm like, that's kind of sad actually. Like I don't want to go to the afterlife. Like when she missed her dad so much and she went there, but then she realized like, oh, it's like better to be like living than go here. I don't know. It's kind of like sad. I mean, if you're like in your emo or gothic era, that's... There's something soothing about it. Those movies are fun. Yeah. But now I'm like, oh my God, that's kind of sad actually when we...

The idea of people, yeah. Passing away and I don't know. It was like kind of sad. I mean, they make it funny. Maybe not fun, but they make it funny. Well, they make it look fun. Like the afterlife looks fun. Like even in Beetlejuice, it's like... I don't know. The afterlife seems chaotic. Really? And there's gruesome, you know, like everyone are the same...

Because I don't think, in my mind, that's not how it is. Like when you go back, you go back kind of perfect. As your perfect self, not as the self. Yeah, the dad had like fish on him and stuff like that. Or the guy that was eaten by a shark that was busy. Yeah. They didn't want to feature him at all. So there's like, okay. That's true. That's true. That's a good point, actually. I don't know. I guess as a kid, I was like, oh, that looks kind of fun. Like, I guess I'd want to go in there, you know, to the afterlife. But yeah.

While Britney Spears married herself. Well, she reposted. I just saw. So you told me this and I was like, oh my gosh, wait, what? But she actually did it before. She had reposting from when I married myself. So I guess she did it earlier, but she had her veil on. She had that. I do think there's something to that, marrying yourself. I think there's something like empowering about it because, right, I always say this and I know you don't get offended by anything, but I think people are always shocked when I say it is like, you know, like marriage is kind of, I don't know.

Like maybe I have a different view of it, but it kind of is the same as like dating in both regards in the sense where people who don't want to get married. I'm like, but you already, like you have a baby, you have to own a house together. Like you're already committed. So it's like the marriage is just marriage. Which is two things. One is, I do think everyone should marry this themselves at some point as a way of like self, I don't know, like committing to yourself, complete yourself to realize yourself fully before you marry somebody else. So like,

Because if you don't want to hang out with yourself for the rest of your life, why should anyone else do that? Yeah. So that's one thing. And the second thing, I disagree. I think you changed a lot after Commitment.

Because the lack of commitment was scary for you. The proposal, I think. I think the proposal is what changed me. I don't know if it was like... Because to me, I got commitment from you. So I was like, oh, boom, we're done. But that's one thing. I say there's one thing. It's like me telling you, we're going to go eat dinner and then we go eat dinner. So there's the proposal and then there's the dinner. That's kind of, yeah. But if I proposed to you and five years went by...

you wouldn't feel the same. You would be like, something is... If you proposed to me, oh, and we didn't get married like within a year. Yeah, so... Yeah. But I think commitment was important to you. That's why it was important to me to figure it out. So I figured it out. I was like, okay, yes, I'm absolutely... And then...

But I think like legally, like I think there should be, I guess if someone announced like, hey, I'm marrying myself, come to my wedding to myself, people like want to take it seriously and like give you gifts and stuff like that. But I feel like people should like be allowed to do that. It was like one of those ceremonies, you know, like you have a...

I don't know, sweet 16, like there's ceremony, right? In life, you know? Yes. So if one of, if it was one of those, you reach 18 and you're like, okay, now it's time to marry us. No, because like 35 is when people are getting married. So if you're not married by 35 and you're like, let me marry myself and you invite people to come to the wedding, like people want to take it seriously. Right. I just, I'm talking about it differently in the sense of like, it should be a ceremony everyone goes through when they're young to get married.

Okay. Well, then it's just, yeah. When I got married to the cardboard cutout in Vegas, the guy, I asked him, I'm like, oh, what's like the weirdest thing that you've been married to? And he's like, oh, or some, who he got, because he did all these things. He goes, oh, I did a ceremony to someone's like cell phone. Like they got married to their cell phone. We just know everyone. Yeah. Which is like crazy. I was like, I guess, you know, someone married their dog, which I'm like, can you do that? Because it's like not consensual. Yeah.

And also, do you consummate it? That's illegal. That is so weird. I wonder if it's just a commitment ceremony he did then. Because mine was a commitment ceremony with Brad Pitt, but the cardboard cutout. But I don't think it was legal. But I wonder if you legally can marry your cardboard cutout. I guess you can't legally marry an intimate object that can't consent to you. I just don't know what the meaning of that. They can sign the paper and give it to you. But I don't know what the meaning of it really is, you know.

Because are you going to divorce? Is somebody representing the dog? You can't marry someone else. Is the dog taking half and going away? I don't know. That's so weird. I don't know. If you have puppies, who keeps? That's true, I guess. I don't know. But the people who are like, I don't know. Tell us in the comments below if you're someone who doesn't believe in marriage, but you have a kid with someone. Because I truly can't wrap my mind around it. I don't think it's bad. I don't judge it, but I just truly don't understand. There's definitely a lot of people that have trauma from...

- Marriages. - Or maybe watching their parents or somebody else. - Okay, they think it like ruins it or something or they feel trapped or what? - I don't know, something awful about it that they just never wanna recreate that. - I just think you're more like, I hate to use the word trapped, I think you're more trapped if you have a baby with someone 'cause you actually have to be in their lives forever. As opposed to if you just get married and divorced and you have no kids, you never have to see that person again. - Yeah, for sure. - But I don't know, let us know. I truly am always so curious. It's 'cause it's so interesting. People are like, we had a baby, we bought a house,

but we didn't get married and i was like i guess maybe two people don't want it who was it oh i think drew recently said that drew um from tiktok she recently got engaged and they were together like eight years and she was i never really like needed to be engaged so i mean i guess i think it's a good sign for britney spears that she's moving in the right direction of marrying herself feeling whole feeling yeah without somebody else

Honestly, no one could even match Brittany's energy. It's so funny. I love having conversations with you in real life, but being on camera is such a funny one. It's so awkward kind of, right? I guess because we're on camera, so you have to watch what you say. Not that you say anything crazy, but –

Moses actually – having a conversation with Moses in real life is kind of like being on camera all the time. Like he's always like watching himself as if I'm like secretly recording or something. That is so sweet though. Yeah, unless you just are like that. Maybe you're just not offensive. But he never does. Me, I'm always on my phone. I'm always like, oh, is it accidentally calling someone? Like let me make sure I'm not like dialing someone I'm talking about. He like never has that. Oh, okay. Wow. Okay. I should probably retract or –

My agents did reach out to the casting director and it wasn't that they said it was a no. They said for a few months back, they did ask a few months back and said Trisha has been on their list for a while. So that's good. That's like not a no. It's like, oh, she's been on our list. And supposedly it's going through fall 2025. So fingers crossed. So anyways, Little Top Whores love you and... Rejected. Rejected. Yeah, I don't know what I said. I don't think it's anything bad, but... Suddenly Seymour showed me a kiss.

That was my audition. Seymour is standing beside me. Sweet understanding. Seymour's my man. That was good. Okay, I'm ready. Actually, we should do Little Shop of Horrors cosplay. You could be Seymour. You could be Seymour. Do you know it at all? You know nothing about it. Never saw it. Only your music videos. This is the game I played with Moses while you were gone. I asked him, I'm like, you've never seen Wicked? Guess the plot. So you've never seen Little Shop of Horrors? Guess the plot.

This is the one where, oh, no, this isn't the one where the plant comes from space. Yes! It is! How did you know this? Okay, T. How did you get that for my music video? What were the context clues?

I honestly don't remember. That was just pulled somewhere in the back. Wow. I couldn't remember if it was that one or... That was wild because that's so accurate. Which ones? Let's do the time hop again. Oh, Rocky Corp picture show. I couldn't know. I didn't remember if the plant was from that one or the other one. That's so interesting because they're kind of similar. They kind of are like science fiction-y. That was good. I think... I mean, it's literally what it's about. It's like a space from... A plant from plant space. I swear at Universal, I think... I think...

When I went on like a sponsored trip to Universal for Strawberry 17. I love that. I think at the theme park they were playing, they did like a little presentation of Rocky Horror Picture Show, I think. Oh, so you're like, oh, the plant. I think I'm going to plant somewhere in my brain. Well, Glee also did a Rocky Horror episode. Oh my God. You should have led with that. Okay. Probably Glee. That's where it was in my brain. I loved it. And Mr. Shoe weirdly like was going to be Rocky and we're like, no.

That's like the hot male model in like a little gold shorts. Like what? That was so weird and inappropriate. And John Stamos. So yeah. Okay. So you know. That's pretty good. That's pretty good. And the plant eats people.

And in the stage production, they all get eaten. Whereas in the movie, they survive. But I love the stage production because they all get spoiler alert. Bless you. It's been out there for a while. I mean, this is the fact to even be on a list sounds great to me. It is great to be on a list. That's crazy. It's great to be in consideration. No, actually. I feel like for people like me who truly don't get parts, to actually be considered is actually kind of crazy. It's kind of like, that's actually wild. At the time, having agent or auditioning or casting. Yeah, that they were like, I was on the list. Yeah.

I would cry. I would cry. And the theater, like I said, is small. It's like 200 seats. It's like, I mean, not to say whatever, but I did sell out at 1,600 seats in the theater. So it gave me confidence. It really did. I was kind of like, you know what? Let's push again because I really was always scared to actually ever ask to be on a show because I'm like, what if they do a stunt cast to get tickets sold and then no one comes? That'd be wild. But, you know. All right. Anyways. Anyways.

So would you ever play smaller theaters than 1600? Huh? Oh, would I consider it? Maybe. Maybe it's off-Broadway. Yes. No, I love it. I do love it because it is so close and you can see everyone. It is very cool. But yeah, I would play smaller theaters.

I had animal news today, but... Oh, no. When you left, I said, Moses, what's your hot topic? He was starting to look. I'm like, no. I'm like, let's just riff because I know he's going to give me an animal. I do have. No, why? What's yours? Mine. You have animal topics? There's a panda bear and there's... Yeah. A panda bear. I have... Mine is a mouse with a big butt was caught on camera. Oh, I saw that. See, I knew you saw it. I knew you saw it. How am I seeing these? I don't know.

I don't see any of this. What, where, how? I like both. You sold more because you had mouse with a big butt. Panda bear gave me very little, but I'm down to hear that one too. I saw it on Twitter because it was like the New York Post wrote an article about it. Say cheese, mouse with a big butt caught on camera. Wow. And it does kind of have a big butt, but I hope it's like okay medically. It doesn't sound like it would be. Usually not. They usually run away from something. Can you see the cheeks?

I mean, it really has butt cheeks. That's crazy. Ew, mouses scare me. Mouses are so terrifying. Oh, my God. Have you ever seen a mouse in real life? At, like, the pet store. Not, like, in the wild, I don't think. Not, like, in your house ever? No. I don't think so. When I was little, I had a hamster I got from a pet store, and it was pregnant, but we didn't know it was pregnant. And it had babies, and the babies escaped. And then I had to go throughout my house to find the little baby hamsters. And you picked him up?

I think so. I think I was more brave like as a kid. And what did you do with them? I think I sold them at a garage sale. Wow. I didn't know what to do with like 15 babies. I love garage sales. Does your parents have a garage? Yeah, they do. We should have a garage sale at your parents' house. Oh my God. That'd be so fun. Our garage sale was in our front yard though, ironically. Oh, it wasn't in the garage? No, because our garage is in the back. Oh. So yeah, to get the, you know, the walking street.

street business. We've got to be in the same. I love the garage sales. It's very Midwest actually. People actually would put, like every Saturday there'd be garage sales. People would like open up the garages and like put things. We had garage sales all the time and my mom loved going to them. She still loves them. I was going to say that is very your mom's code name. She loves the Goodwill. She loves the garage sales. She loves the Poshmark. She loves the leftover. She is like to this day like that. It's crazy. My mom would just buy like new clothes. She's like, no, I love garage sales. But I always wanted to do them but we don't really have kind of like

when Kathy Hilton did the estate sale. But it was like at her actual house. I love that. But I'm like, I don't want people coming to my actual house. But I like the idea of it because we have so much stuff. Maybe at the venue, at the traditionalist venue, you can have a park garage sale too. Like the idea. That's actually a good idea. Or on a set, just like they did in Jane the Virgin. Yeah. Recreate your house on a set. That would be so cool because we have so much stuff to sell that we just can't sell on Poshmark. Oh my God, that'd be so cool. We'll just put everything out there. I think we'll do a pop-up shop at some point.

Yeah, that's true. That would be really cool. Okay, yeah, that would be everything because we have like so much stuff to sell because I just have so many things that just like – I mean literally there's just no place for them. We have so much storage and there's no place. So that would be so cool. Or your parents' garage. Ask them. See if we can come over. So the mouse with the butt cheeks is just living his life and who caught him? Who like took the picture? Yeah.

It was on the New York Post, so I'm assuming the New York Post caught it. Oh, no. Actually, it was in Logan Canyon, Utah. This mouse became a viral sensation thanks to the animal's comically large derriere. The booty liches wrote it. Oh, that's sad. Sent a woman squealing with laughter. No way. No, I'm going to pee, she gasped. Okay. Hold it in, lady. The state of journalism. Yeah, that's wild. Like, the New York Post did an article about this? Like, what?

I kind of like it. I do love – okay, I don't like animal news, but I do love that it's, like, so lighthearted and this is what people are reporting on. You know what I mean? I would see, like, we need one of these stories every now and then, you know? That one's cute. That poor animal, though. Like, I mean, maybe something is wrong with him. I know. I hope it's just genetically blessed and not, like, you know, anything medically wrong.

It looks like someone maybe like injected him to be funny or something. Like, you know what I mean? Like, it looks like injections. Like a BBL. Yeah. Desert mouse. Yes. They're experimenting on that. Yeah. It does look like that. In Utah. Oh, Utah. One of those Mormon mouses. At the soda. At the soda. At the Swig. If we ever do make it up to Swig or Swig makes it down here, we have to go with Spill Slash because she keeps talking about it too. I'm like, God, it really does look so good. Man, what's up in Utah? It really is crazy up there. I know.

It's in Utah. And then your post found it. That's pretty amazing. Wow. The bootylicious wrote it. It was a crazy line to write. Shout out to the journalist. Who was it? EJ Dickinson. EJ's like, this is the one. It doesn't have the author, but it's crazy. There's no author? No, it doesn't have an author. Anonymous. Anonymous.

They didn't want their name on it. That's wild. Could you imagine that writer whose boss was like, here's the story you're writing today? Yeah. Or maybe they pitched it. You can choose Didi or this model. I would choose the rodent. Absolutely. Yeah. That sounds way more fun. Okay. Well, is there any video or just the picture? Oh, it's a video. Yeah. Is it shaking its butt? It's running away from the lady that's laughing at him. It's being body shamed. Oh, my God. Oh, my God.

Where is it? Like, where is that? I think it was just out in the wild in Utah. What, she just like looks through crevices or what? It's not even like in their house or anything. It looks like it's like... It's outside. Yeah. I guess she just... In cement? That's so weird. She's like looking for rodents outside. Would you notice if a mouse had a big butt?

Probably. Would you? Would you film it? Moses probably would. He wouldn't be a reporter. I film every animal I see. Oh, wait, really? Yeah, if I see, you know, coyotes, bobcats outside. Have you filmed a mouse? We haven't seen him outside, but...

Yeah. In that situation, yes. Otherwise, no, because I know you wouldn't want to see that for sure. Definitely don't want to see it. Oh, my God. That's funny. I've been sent like dead rodents and I'm like, okay, why? They're like, oh, look what I caught. I'm like, not from him, but like just I'm just like, I don't want to see it like traumatizing. But I mean, rodents have a bad, bad rap. Yeah. Right. Well, also bad life because I feel like they're always trying to get caught. Like your whole life you're just spent running around from trying to escape a trap.

But Stuart Little was adopted. Well, he has a cute mouth. And that was based on a true story. Was it? Yeah. No. He was adopted. You're lying. No, Stuart Little is based on a true story. I'd never know. I don't know the story. So I'm like, is this real? I was seeing how far I could take it. Because I don't know the story. So I was like,

I just start laughing like I know it's the same way I love to do a good troll but I can't it is odd that there's like you know from Chuck E. Cheese Ratatouille like there's rats in kitchens I'm like how does anyone yeah

God, we did see a mouse. We won't say where. At one of our local eateries, we saw a mouse one time. We still eat there, though. It like ran across someone's foot and it's green, but then someone went to go look for the mouse and they saw a cockroach instead. Oh, no. It's a good restaurant, actually. We'd go back, but it was traumatizing because it ran across someone's feet, like, you know, in booths. And we were sitting in booths. I was like, God, now every time we go there, I do get a little scared. You're so surreal. Nibbling your toes. Yeah. Oh, no.

Oh, just feeling like a little mouse in a car. I mean, I guess it's like normal. I mean, like because the doors are open. You know, it's one of those restaurants that are inside and outside. So I guess it's like normal for a mouse to like run in. I'm kind of a little desensitized since we do live in the mountains. I feel a little desensitized to it. But – and growing up we had it because we also had them on like, you know, in the Midwest. It was like in the fields and stuff like that. But yeah, I mean, I just feel like it's like ants. Everyone just wants to kill the ants. You know what I mean? It's like nobody –

You know? Nobody wants that. No one's looking out for them. Yeah. Yeah. I guess it's like reincarnation if you're like a bad person in the previous life. You come back as an ant that just gets like stomped on or something. I mean, I feel bad for them. One time I saw an ant carry a big crumb on its back.

And it was huge. I was like, how did they carry that on its own back? They're very strong. They're very strong. I like ants. I wish they were less problematic in our house. Yeah. Yeah, outside I don't mind them at all. You know what don't exist anymore are fire ants. I've never seen fire ants. Oh, my God. Those red ones? Yeah. I got attacked by fire ants once. Oh.

Ironically, I had C-roll as a kid. Oh my god. So it all kind of makes sense. Yeah. Once I said it, I was like, wait. What do you mean they attacked? I think I was in a planter for some reason. And I got covered in fire ants and I had to go back to the hotel. Well, why were you in a planter? I was like four. I don't know. Just like running around. Love nature. Ah.

You would be that kid. You'd be like, where's Oscar? He's in the planter. It's a horrible, horrible age to be covered by ants. Yeah, four. That's wild. Yeah, I remember having to go back to the hotel. It was a whole fiasco. I had bites all over me. Oh my gosh. It was bad. Did you learn your lesson? Now I avoid a fire ant for sure. Yeah, I never see them. What is the one we saw yesterday, that bug we saw yesterday?

Oh, like Earth baby? Have you seen Earth babies? What the hell? It was so scary. Did you take a picture of that? That thing was terrifying. It looked like a human bug. I'm going to look that up. Earth baby. It's like a very big, it looks like a very big ant, but they have a big face. It looks like a baby. It's scary. He said it looks like a baby. That's why they're called Earth babies. Ew. I know. We saw it and I was like, whoa. That was creepy. What's the actual name? I just didn't remember. Did it come up as Earth baby? There's photos of babies on planet Earth and then there's like two photos of the bug. Earth baby bug. Yeah.

That's so funny. That's crazy. What was your piano story? Do you want to share yours? Oh my God, did you just put these here? It looks like I have them in my wedding. It looks like Bridgerton. What are these? That's what I was trying to go for. What are these? It's like a wisteria lane. It also looks like the Kardashian Wicked thing with the balloons and the pink. I like it. So mine is just the most lively panda. I'll send it to Jimmy to put it up. And he's just like the funniest. Because panda, I mean, they are a weird bear. They're so clumsy. It's a surprising thing that they're still around.

But this one is just like he's just like wild. He's just like all day dancing and pushing. He's living his best life. Shoving and jumping. That's cute. Is it viral? How many likes does it have? It's definitely viral. There's millions of views. So enjoy this moment of...

Sometimes Moses will pitch like a hot topic. I love this one, by the way. He is very cute. Enjoy it. But sometimes he'll pitch an idea. Like last night he was talking about something. I'm like, okay, I love it. But like, where do we go about it? Like, what is it? You know what I mean? I kind of knew that this was a tough one too. He wanted to work it in somehow. He's like, I really love this band. And I was like, okay. Is there something they did recently? No.

Is it current? No, I was like, okay, well. They did the Tiny Desk, you know, performance. Oh, yeah. Okay, so you just want to shout them out. But the problem is we can't place music here. So that's kind of a dead end. Well, you want to shout them out, go ahead, shout them out. I don't know where we're going with it, but we can try. One second. I love a shout out to just random shout out. I'll show them. He loves his band, he said. Never seen him listen to the music before, but I was like, okay. So it's Cartiel and Paco Amoroso.

Yeah. Okay. And their tiny desk performance. You loved it. You were into it. They're amazing. They're so good. He loves this band and I've never seen you play this music. Well, anyways, you should listen to it when we don't get copyright. I like it. Shout out to them. At home, on your own time. He was so excited. He's like, I think I have a hot topic tomorrow. It's this. And I was like, okay. What happened? He's like, nothing. And I was like, okay. I like it though. I like it.

Shout out that. I want to go on the Tiny Desk series. How do I get on there? Oh, my God. You would slay a Tiny Desk concert. It's here. It's here in LA. It is? Maybe let me do all my Christmas songs for Christmas season. Yeah. Just like playing little bells and stuff. They will. NPR definitely needs a little boost. It's NPR? Yeah. Like public radio? What's the M stand for? Or N? National Public Radio? NPR. But that's so weird. It's like a viral thing, though. What? The video? The video?

Well, Tiny Desk in general, in general, it's been, I mean, like Chapel Roan. No, I know. But I thought that was just like a viral series, like those puppies that people play with. You know what I mean? Like I thought it was just something everyone goes and does to go viral. No, it's specifically over there. Oh, okay. And then there's a lot of performances that don't go viral. They probably don't need help if Chapel Roan was on there. Taylor Swift did one. Oh, Taylor Swift did Tiny Desk? Olivia Rodrigo. Oh, okay. Well, they're good then. He's like, they probably need help, so go over there. I don't think so.

You need to help with the cool kids. Okay. A trending tweet I saw was David Archuleta came out as a top in a new TikTok. Oh. So congrats, David Archuleta. Someone like on TikTok wrote like a little, you know, when they comment and you can respond to a comment. Someone commented, I was going to say being a full-time bottom isn't so. And then he like,

like so difficult or whatever. And then he responded, yeah, for some people, but I am a top. Oh, can you like settle this? Like why are, I think we talked about this before. I need to really know. Like why are bottoms like looked down upon? Why do people use it as an insult? Like, oh, wow, he's a bottom. No, because they're below. You look down.

You already need them. Sometimes it's tough. Honestly, Choice of On kind of said this about twink where sometimes like twink is used by straight people as a substitute for like the F slur. And I feel like bottom is also one of those that's used by straight people and also gay people as a substitute for the F slur. And I think it's a lot of the times, again, rooted in misogyny because it is the,

receiving and so I guess the feminine role but all because someone is like more feminine like in mannerisms doesn't mean that they are a bottom like that's a weird that's what I'm gonna say I feel like I mean like down to whatever but I feel like a lot of time it's like yeah like I just remember people like oh he's a big old bottom I feel like the tall big beefy ones are a lot of bottoms yeah team yeah so it's like I don't know how people can just look at someone and be like oh they're femme they're little they must be that yeah it is really weird and like yeah

I don't know. Assuming that David Archuleta is... Because that's what it was. Like, someone, like, was trying to, like, make fun of him or, like, dogging him a little bit by being all, like, real bottom. And it's like, well, no, no. And he clapped back. Do you think he was being serious? I thought he was, yeah. Yeah. Okay, good for him. I mean, it's just such a weird thing, too, to have to, like, clarify. Because you have to come out as gay and then you got to come out your position. I was like, Jesus. That's crazy. Is it really coming out? Like, is it, like... Well, he did. He just clarified what he was. He came out and said, I'm a cop. But that's not coming out. That's just...

That's coming out. What's your preference? That's like letting the world know because everyone, I guess, cares so much. Troy Sivana did that too. Everyone was calling him a bottom. He's like, no, I actually am a top. Everyone's a top? Or come out and be like, I'm a proud bottom. Like, you know what I mean? That's wild. But I mean, you know.

In hetero relationships, the guy can be a bottom. You know what I mean? True. There's so many things that you can do. So it's like kind of weird. And a lot of straight guys like that. That honestly is so true. Yeah. People need to just lighten up on it. Yeah. I don't know. I don't know either. But I'm sure someone's proud. I don't know. If you're a proud bottom, let us know. Let us know in the comments. You should be. You should be. It's easier. It's so much easier to receive. Yeah. Just lay there. Just. Well.

Well, sometimes. Sometimes. Yeah, sometimes you want to feel a little adventurous, but hell no, not me. I haven't been on top since I've been pregnant for the first time. That sounds like a lot. I used to be, and now I'm just like, this is a lot. This is, it's a lot. And I'm not athletic. I think in a hetero relationship, it's different. No, no. No, but you're saying just lay there. Yeah, I lay there most of the time. Yeah, but you're not doing what you're doing. He's like, yeah, but. No, but you're not doing it.

It's not going to the same place. It's not that easy. No, but being on top is... Oh, I see. Like you're not the receiver. Okay, yeah. But I guess if you want to clarify that. I don't want people to feel out there at home. No, but it's more work. A top is always more work. And me being on top physically is more work. It requires more movement. Way more movement. I'm like...

No. So absolutely not. But yeah, I just – sorry. One day I'll get back to it. When we first started, I was like, ooh, I was so like sexual and so into it. Now I'm just like, oh my god, I can't. One day, one day, one day I will get back there. That's my goal is physically is just to be like, I would like to try it again. I think I'd be out of breath now. I get out of breath laying there sometimes. A cramp in your leg or something. Sometimes. Yeah. Or my belly is too full for one time.

I just heard the water jiggling in my belly. It was like gurgling. She's drank a lot of water. And I couldn't stop making this noise. And I was trying to be sexy. I was like...

It was not sexy. I felt so embarrassed too. We've been together for so long. Luckily for you, I love water. That is true. I was so embarrassed. I was like, okay, let me... There's nothing embarrassing about it. It's just water. It's not even like anything. No, but it was like gurgling. It's not gurgling. It's almost like when they have the suction and it sounds like farting when there's a suction in the air going in and out and it sounds like a fart. That's worse. This is more like we were in a waterbed or there's just a little sound of water. Yeah.

That's so crazy. That was wild. I know. I was like, oh my God, why is that doing that? It was like so much water. Oh gosh. Okay. Well, congrats David Archuleta. I love David Archuleta. He should be the next Joseph. He was in Joseph Amazing. Actually up in Utah. Actually, I think he's Mormon or he was Mormon, left the Mormon church, but he played Joseph up in Utah at an amphitheater and he was wonderful. He's, you'd be good Joseph if they're casting.

I love David Archuleta. I love his Hannah Montana episode. It was so good. It was really good. He's like, hey, Miley, you want to do a song with me? He's like, okay, I'll be right over, David Archuleta. And they sing a little duet together. What was that song again? Oh, my God. Why am I forgetting it? Oh, the song they sang? Yes. No idea. I loved it. I loved that song. Oh, my God. It's killing me. I should look it up. I couldn't even tell you. I want to know you. Whoa. Whoa. Whoa. Whoa.

Well, I want to know you. Okay. It's a good song. I like it. That is a cute song. I'm catching up on Hannah Montana through like clips and I'm kind of like, oh, it sounds like a good show. Billy Ray Cyrus is a big trigger warning to me though. I'm just very much like, oh. You cannot look at him the same, I think. Yeah. He gives me the ick even before. I actually don't even know why he's problematic.

Do we? Or you just don't like him? He just gives me the ick, but... Wasn't it like the younger girlfriend and then the breakup and then Miley's... Half the kids are mad at him. Oh, yeah. Yeah. Yeah. He's like Matthew Morrison where they really never did anything wrong, but you're just kind of like... They look a little scary. Yeah. Yeah. But I guess he did do...

I don't know. He just dated someone younger. I guess he was an extra on the set of Hannah Montana. Oh, that's what it was. Yeah. Okay, that's it. And also it's like always when the kids – I feel like kids are a good like litmus test, right? So if half your kids like – Yeah. Don't want to be seen with you or whatever. There's like a reason. And I think he said something recently about like Miley. Like he was kind of talking trash about Miley recently too. Yeah. That's the biggest red flag. If a parent is like talking trash about your kid, like it's one thing for the kid not to like the parent, but another thing for the –

Oh, yeah. Like in July, like audio came out where he called Miley the devil. Oh, my God. It's giving Alec Baldwin. Yeah. That's weird. Yeah. Why do – why are dads like that? Why do they like talk – like it's so weird to talk bad about like your daughter. It's like so odd. Okay. Well, you are not invited on the podcast. I think him – who else? Who are his definite no's? Harry Jowsey. I definitely know. There's very few definite no's, but those –

For sure. Yeah. Mr. Beast, kind of a maybe, actually. I'm curious about him. I just would love to get those views. I would love to get 71 million views. They have a chocolate. I hope he brings a lot of chocolate with him. They have a new flavor. Did you see the cookies and cream one? Damn, no. And I love cookies and cream. Oh, that's what it was. Oh, my God. Yeah. Oh, my God. Unlocked. I don't know why this wasn't a hot topic. Lauren Goodwin, she's one of my favorite TikTokers. She got a Mr. Beast PR package for Feastables. And it was the new cookies and cream flavor. And I was like, oh, my God. That looks so good. And she started off the thing. It was like, I got money for Mr. Beast. He attached...

500 singles to each dollar bills to each candy bar that he sent in the PR package. So basically she had all this cash. There was like five of them. It's a hundred on each. Oh, you saw it. Yeah. Yes. A hundred. He put a hundred singles on each bar and there was five bars in there. I don't know. Why did he send that to influencers? Oh, did we get one? Did you get one? Wait, they do listen to the podcast. Hey, we love a beastable.

I love cookies and cream. That's my favorite flavor. I know. I do too. Actually, it looks so good. And I was just excited about that. I was kind of gagged. I was like, oh my God, the new cookies and cream flavor. Then we started sending money. I was like.

Okay. I get why people get excited for those games. Like lock me in a room for 75 days. Like, you know, the money really does just like make someone. And when I saw that, like, I don't know. There's something about seeing $500 seems like a lot. Like, you know, I can like sell it and not think anything of it. But seeing the cash or having the cash. It is a lot. Just to get in a package. Like what? I know. I was like, what was he promoting? I feel like she did say something at the end of it. I mean, the CPR package was like ours, like the ones we got. So we should definitely get one in the mail. Oh my God.

Scream. Oh, my God. One of those, the most common, I don't know, kind of gambling for kids. It's like, you know, buy something for the chances of getting... But I don't think that's what it was. I think it was just for the PR package. No, but there was...

there is something. Okay, I got it. I have my, oh, I threw it on the ground. There was a QR code in the back. There was something. Right. On the posters in the stores, it says you can win a million dollars. So maybe that's what it was promoting or something like that. Like, yeah, because on the displays like in Target and Ralph's, it says you can win a million dollars and he's smiling and then it's all the chocolate. You should do a selfie with it next time you see the displays. I do see it often. Yeah. Yeah.

Dang. I was so excited. How did you see it? You saw the girl that I'm talking about? The one with the purple hair. Yeah, on TikTok. She's the only one that got it. I never saw anyone else get it. No, I didn't see anyone else. Maybe she just did it. Lucy DeLuca. Lucy DeLuca did it. That would be even more funny. I mean, those Feastival chocolates aren't delicious, but... As Rosanna Pansino reviewed a Feastival, I need her to. Oh, yeah.

I don't know. That'd be so interesting. Moldy. Moldy Feastables. I mean, that's. I did see on Twitter a lot of the discourse that, you know, some of his fans saying that she faked it, the mold, but she showed opening a fresh one. Yeah. Yeah. She released the unedited footage, which is, I knew she wouldn't fake that. No, like, I feel like, again, she has like too much glue. I love when they like release uncut that actually look at all this. I,

I love that. Yeah. I mean, that's what other people did. And I guess like, you know, like the testament, it's like real cheese, I guess. I mean, real cheese is called moldy cheese. And then I guess the common denominator was the glue around the corner of the cheese thing. That's why, like all the mold on the cheese is always in the same spot, like in the corner and the glue around there to seal it wasn't fully there is what people are saying. Oh, interesting. Yeah.

Wow, people are like scientists over here. People are really studying the moldy cheese thing. It's crazy that they haven't said anything. They were going so hard promoting it, like trying to like own anyone who ever said anything bad about it. And then all of a sudden the moldy cheese, now all of a sudden it's silent. That is weird. Yeah. And Mr. Reese is silent about everything he doesn't say. Is he just putting out content still? Just like regular content? His last one was that one that got like 50% less than...

The other ones. Right. Only 80 million. The underground maze or whatever. Yeah. Only 80 million. What was it? What kind of maze? It was an underground city maze or something. Just crazy. What a weird time we're living in. We talked about earlier how we're like born in the right time, but sometimes stuff like this is like I want to go back to Bridgerton. I want to go to just the balls and not see Jimmy, Mr. Beast. His last video was 11 days ago. Exploring – seven days exploring an underground city.

Before that, it was 100 identical twins fight for $250,000. Oh, my God. What a crazy world. What is this? It feels very Hunger Games. It feels very dystopian. It is. That's what Moses was saying earlier. Oh, you did? Oh, wow. Mr. Beast is like Hunger Games. We're seeing the beginning of it as it's happening. That is so weird. Yeah, that is kind of weird. Oh, yeah. Men versus women survive the wilderness for $500,000 and they're doing archery. Wait. What if he did an actual to scale Hunger Games? I could see him doing it 100%. Would you do it if they had the clock? Yeah.

Oh, I would love to do it. That would be fun. I would love to see how long it can last. Okay, when we watched Catching Fire, because I didn't like the first one. When we watched Catching Fire and they had that little clock thing and they... I kept thinking, like, how fun would this be to film this? Like, them, like, just, like, running through the water and stuff. It just looked so much fun. I was, like, so jealous. You know, it's, like, one movie besides Wicked that I wish I could have been in. Like, that is, like...

Like, dang. I think they filmed it in Hawaii and stuff, too. Oh, my God. God, if Mr. Beast did a real life, like, not real, like, dying, but, like, if they did elimination tactics, I would love to compete in that, too. I wonder how long we would last. I would definitely be the first to go. No, you wouldn't be first. You'll see my face in the sky right away. That would be crazy to try. That'd be so much fun. If I had Mr. Beast money, when I win the lottery, I'll do that. I'll just set one up for us to see, just for funsies, who wins. Yeah, but you'd be cosplaying as the other contestants, and then...

You would think that they're dyed, that you dyed, but it's actually them. Well, I'm not a shapeshifter. I mean, you can tell. Yeah, you'll have your glam thing with you. That'd be super powerful. I know. It's going to be interesting for our Halloween Hunger Games episode because I think you, Jimmy, and my mom all have the same costume. OT. So I think you really need to have, you're going to have the wig to differentiate because I'm like, how are we going to differentiate who's who? My mom has a wig too. She has like a wig. So I guess that's how we like to differentiate. Yeah, I'll have the Katniss wig, bow and arrow. Okay.

Oh, okay. Okay, cool. Wait, what was the last one? The quiver. What's a quiver? It holds the bows. Okay. We love a quiver. I wonder if Jimmy's going to be blonde. I know. Jimmy should be blonde. He needs a little pita wig. I wonder what he's going to do. Is he going to shave? You know, I'm big on like, well, I love the mustache, so he can wear whatever he wants.

But then it's like, oh, but there's another Hunger Games person that has a mustache. That's true. You have to be as accurate as possible. This is how he finds out he has to shave is he edits this. You can do whatever you want. But I'm very – you're shaved so you're good. You know what's so funny? It's so weird because I have like the purple wig. I saw a clip. I think Antonio Garza recently did Kali Osborne. Did you see the cosplay? No, but that is something she would do. Yeah, it was so fierce and she did the audio. Oh.

Like, if you can't get it like that. But everyone's like, wait, why did I think this was Cesar Flickerman? And I was like, I never really got that before. The two kind of look similar. Like, why did she have her hair like that? That was crazy. The purple, like, pompadour kind of thing. Yeah. Because I have that wig. We almost wore it one time. And I was just going to wear it down. But immediately, I was like, this feels like how I was born on The View. Like, I was like, I can't do this. But yeah. Oh, that's not. And Tonya, she rocked it. I loved it. She was like, she looked so good, too. I was like, okay, that's kind of everything. Yeah.

I think last year she was, I think she was Jeffrey and then her friend Haley was you. Yes. Oh my God. That was actually so great. I think they've done like Wendy Williams too. I love it. That's like the biggest honor, especially when people go full force into it. Yeah. They went all out. I love Halloween costumes. I can't wait to see it. I really do love watching people. I guess one, I guess on Patreon we could like review Halloween costumes. That's a good idea. Yeah. That's what you should do next time. Yeah. Because I think it's like the first we're doing Patreon. So we'll do it. That'd be fun.

I love like just seeing because what they have Heidi Klum's party. There's usually like this big parties all the time. Yeah. In Hollywood. Are you invited to any? No. Neither. I would invite to the inside parties. Well we don't really go. I think we advertise too much that we don't like to leave. You know. Right. People just don't even think about it. Well if we invite to a West Hollywood one we should go. That'd be fun.

My one friend who goes out to West Hollywood like every night, I was like, you know, it would be fun to just like go out once. But I don't know. Maybe it sounds like too much work too. Serious question. Why do they... Okay. What is this for? That one is for the hot water. So why don't you just... You know, they have like Keurigs. Like why? Why do people still use these? I see people using them and I'm like, why? I mean, the tea, the quality of the tea is so much better. Okay. But even yours that you just like warm up hot water on like the stove.

Yeah, but then you put the hot water in there with the tea. But why don't you just put it from the stove into the cup? Because you need to brew it. Because, well, you want to go, let's say we want to sit down and have tea. So we want to sit down. Who wants to sit down and have tea? Take it to go. You always have yours to go. You always put it in a to-go cup.

When I go, but at home, I always drink it at home. Yeah, but then you just bring it on the couch. You don't have a tea time. You just bring it on the couch. Because I'm by myself. Bring it up to bed. If you drank tea with me, we definitely would be doing that. Okay, I would love to see that. And then the other one is for sugar and milk. Let's do it right now after this.

I would love for you to maybe... Moses is a big tea fan. He always loved tea. I used to pretend like tea when we first started dating. I used to always drink his tea with him. And it was like the worst thing ever because it's just sugar. It's just like so much sugar he puts in there. And I was like, oh my God. And I would drink it every morning, but I knew I was going to gain weight because I'm like, can't I retain my sugar and my weight? And I was like, I got to tell him like, I don't like this, but I never did. I did it for a long time. And then I was like, yeah, I'm good. A long time. Probably a month. Yeah. I was like, I can't keep drinking this pure sugar every day, but...

He's like, I learned this in Ireland, the proper way to serve tea. I was like, oh, okay. Yeah. Okay, Ireland. You know my Irish roots. That's so funny. So Zachary, Zach Brian...

Which I still can't. Zach Brown Band, Zach Bryan, Luke Bryan. I don't know. They're all kind of the same. Luke Bryan. Yeah, that's right. They're all of them. Yeah. Yeah. Anyway. Zach Bryan and Brianna Chicken Fryer officially have broken up. And it's gone very, very viral. I've seen it everywhere. Like People Magazine has read it a bunch. Like all the news outlets have been posting about it. And Brianna – we'll get to like the tea. But right off the bat, like guys –

like the attention. I don't know. Cause in her video, she's like, I don't make any videos about this. You guys like wait. Here we are. But that's crazy though. That,

That's crazy. You can't put your whole relationship like online, make TikToks together. Like that's your whole personality. Like no, like no shade. I would make it my personality too. But then to be like, don't make videos about this. Like as you're making a video about it, like that's wild. I think if you don't want people to make videos, like you just disappear and like don't say anything ever and then no one can talk about it. But it's like, what?

Of course, like the whole internet is going to talk about your video. I love that she was saying she was crying on the bathroom floor for a while. I was like, on brand. Honestly, it's a place to cry on the floor. You feel more grounded. You feel more humbled. I don't deserve a chair. I just got my heart broken. I didn't need to be on the ground. The tears fall lesser onto the ground. It's less of an impact on them. So it's like, I don't know. Because she, I feel like.

It is kind of cool that your relationship. I mean, again, I'm not thinking of like, we'll get into the actual tea, but like, I'm just thinking it is cool that this many people care about all this coverage. Like you're in People Magazine like five times, New York Times, LA Times. You can't pay for that publicity. Plan Bria's ever got that much publicity. You know what I mean? And like, it sucks. It sucks. And like, but like, yeah, you're getting, you know what I mean? Like you're getting that.

You know? And like people like know about you and your podcast. Like she posted her crying video on her podcast channel. Yeah. Which was – Wow. Because I feel like – right. I feel like I would post it on my Blonde Sundell 4MJ channel. Do you know what I mean? Like that's more like, okay, I'm sad over here and it's not produced. Maybe she doesn't care. Maybe she's like, oh, whatever. Could you imagine if I just like tomorrow uploaded like a crying video on Just Trish? I was like, that would be crazy.

I guess she's like, this is where I get the most views. Because I'm sure she has a vlog channel or something, right? Well, I think it's also like in lieu because she's missed a couple episodes on there. I think she missed one or two podcasts. So I think she posted that because she hasn't been posting. She missed two episodes. So she's like, let me just post on here. Maybe. Maybe she missed two episodes because of the breakup? I think she was going through. Yeah. It's such a weird thing, huh? Like if you think about being an influencer, it's like – and not to say that's not –

I mean, of course, you can take time, whatever. But it's interesting. People have to go on a job Monday through Friday and they get their heart broken. They can't just take off. Oh, yeah. I know. And then you think about these influencers. And again, maybe they need to change that where it's like if you're having a mental health thing that they should give you time off for sure. But it's like any other job you just have to go in if you have a broken heart. Yeah. Even with other stuff too. For me, I remember last month there was a time where –

I had... I was, like, crying over something. And then I had, like, I had a Zoom call and I got the notification. I was like, oh, my God, I don't want to do the Zoom call, but I had to. It was, like, meeting. And then I had to, like, wipe my tears. It was very Taylor Swift. I can do it with a broken heart because I wiped my tears, smiled. Hey. Is that what you did? Is that the song Dave Portnoy dedicated to Brianna Chicken Fry? No, that was a breakup. This one is, like, she has a broken heart, but she's going to go perform because...

people pay money to see her. Oh, wow. And she's going to still sell it. You have to. I've done it too. I've done it where I cry and you just got like chocolate. Again, not to say everyone. I'm just saying in general, it is instituted for the cleanser. You know, like you just have to. At least you get the privilege to be like, you know what? I'm not going to work for two weeks. And probably more workplaces should have like mental health days. It should be more. Yeah. I definitely think so. But yeah, that's wild. Because also like is Grace still on the podcast? Yeah.

They haven't – the last one they did was that controversial one. Was that the most recent one? Yeah, the Menendez. And Grace hasn't said anything since. I haven't seen her respond, no. Because I would think she would be like, okay, like, you know, can I pick up the slack? Like, you know what I mean? The sense of like, I want to keep making money. Can I just like do it? You know, I think – I can't remember. Did Brooke do one with Bebe one time? I feel like one time they – Brooke did one with like another person maybe because Tiana couldn't. Do you remember –

episode together. I think you're... I think so, right? So I look at it and I guess... Or when you're out of town, I'm like, okay, why would I keep it going because we have whatever. And so it's like...

I do remember that. I think Tana was on vacation. Yeah, I think she was on vacation. Yeah. So they did one together. Yeah, yeah, yeah. So you would think she'd be like, okay, well, can I continue this? Especially if it's with Barstool. I think you could do it with someone at Barstool or to fill in or something like that. But I guess it's her name. Like, would I fill in for you? Like, would I? Like, what do I get for you? I guess. Yeah, I guess that's a good point. I don't know.

I'm trying to think if I had a real mental health – like Trixie, right? Like she took time off and then there was like fill-in. So I guess maybe if I was like really going through a mental health crisis and I want to keep the show going and I want the fans to keep up, maybe I'd be like, yeah, like, yeah, have different people sit. Yeah, I guess that would make sense. I don't know. I don't know the situation, but it is wild. I – you know what? Like I did – I have felt bad for Brie the past couple weeks. Like I have felt something like – I feel like she was going through it and obviously she was and everyone's like, well, we all could have predicted that. But I mean it is –

It is – I'm just going to say it. Like, I feel like Zach Bryan is just, like, just overrated. I don't know any songs, but, like, everything about him seems overrated to me. His looks, his hype. Like, you know, I just – and then, like, I just, like, hate the – like, he put out the Instagram story, like, that they broke up and then he's, like, on Raya. He's, like, going through a lot. It's been a really, like, tough year for me, but also on Raya. It's like, okay, well, like, do you have to go on that quickly on the dating apps, like, after you broke up? Well, he was on Raya before he posted the – Oh, he got caught. He got caught. And I think –

He wanted to get ahead of it by posting the breakup. Didn't we just talk about this? I feel like we just talked about this on a Hot Topics where I'm just like, sometimes you have to announce a breakup because people will see. Right? Or am I going crazy? That sounds familiar. Yeah. Yeah. Where it's like sometimes you have to like talk about your breakup so people just know. Oh, Andrew Garfield. When he's on Chicken Shop Day. Oh, yes, yes, yes. It's like kind of have to like announce it so people know that you're not getting cheated on or something like that. Yeah. So it all it's I've been I'm not like up to date with the Breonna Chicken Friday Zach

Because it's just not really my wheelhouse. The first time I learned about them was because of Canceled Girls. Yeah, same. I didn't know the impact. I was like, oh, it's Zach Bryan. I couldn't tell you Zach Bryan's song at all. And I'm on TikTok and I'm like, no idea. At least Clinton Kane. I love the Clinton Kane. Give me one more. Oh, that's Alex Warren, I think.

I like that one. Wait, what is – I like a clunking one. I like it. I don't know. I was looking into it. Obviously, we're talking about it for this. And then, yeah, I recall that Zach does have a record of this pattern of behavior because his first wife –

I think he sent the divorce papers while she was away, like serving in the military. And then his second... The other girlfriend before Brie was named Deb. And the...

passing of time between like Brie and Deb was there was like an overlap basically year and a half right everything's a year and a half right everything yeah the marriage this second relationship Brie and people have called it for so long like it's a year and a half and then he gets done with them I'm like wow how did they know this guy so well yeah and even with like I guess like I'm looking at it like

um like Brianna was with her boyfriend at the time and then I think they like broke up and then in the next week Zach and Brianna were together and I remember there was an episode of BFFs that's been recirculating too that where it's like Dave and Josh were like calling her out for like oh you're you posted a TikTok packing up

your stuff with your boyfriend's apartment while you're moving in with Zach. So it's like... Oh my God. What did she say about it? She just said, you know what? People break up and people move on and it's normal. But it's just, I think,

The time. Yeah. Yeah. For both because they were both in relationships and then they met each other at an award show and then suddenly they get out of the relationship and then get together. I mean that's never a good start to a relationship. It's just like you're both – like regardless of the relationship, it's like when you're out of the relationship, let's say they were broken up. It was done or whatever. It's like just give time. Give space before you get into that next – I guess – I don't know. I've just never –

I've never been that person to be, like, next relationship. Yeah. Maybe I would have been. Maybe if it was there. I don't know. It seems kind of, like, not healthy. Yeah. I think especially for Zach, too, it's, like, you see, like, that pattern, you know? And I think people are trying to, like, warn her about that, too. It's, like, it's always that thing, you know? You, um...

You lose them how you get them or whatever. Always. Yeah. I'm going to be the one that's different. I'm going to change them. I feel like we see that all the time with people. Like Blake Shelton I think has had that multiple times where he's like – Miranda Lambert was with him and I think it was the crossover. He was with his first wife when he met Miranda Lambert. And then Gwen Stefani allegedly with Miranda. So it's kind of like – always like these – first of all, country singers. Like why? But also kind of like mid. Like you're kind of like what? Like I don't understand this. Like why are they –

What do they call it? Like, just going through women so quickly and... I don't know. I don't know. And Zach, I guess, in his, like, statement said that he's been struggling through, like, severe things. So, obviously, who knows, like, what's going on in his head and, like, mental health-wise, too. But I think it is embarrassing. So there was, like, DMs that leaked a couple days before, like, last week, where it was, like, DMs between him and another girl that got posted. And then, allegedly...

Brianna like followed this girl, the girl that was DMing him and then unfollowed him the other day – unfollowed her the other day. So almost like a – so like see – people think it's like, oh, like to see what was up almost. Oh, so like people think it's cheating or something like that. People are speculating that it was cheating because these DMs leaked where Zach was supposed to meet up with this girl at a bar or something and like didn't want to be seen is what like the DMs were saying. Oh, that sucks. Yeah. And he – Zach went back to like Oklahoma.

in the middle of like brie dealing with like these controversies and stuff too which is also kind of odd and then um in oklahoma is when he rejoined and reactivated his raya and this was all before like he posted his statement saying that they broke up it's so weird like you think about riot in oklahoma like who's on there i think you can set like people in california can still like you can make it like really wide famous people blake shelton he's in oklahoma

That's crazy. Oh, my gosh. Yeah. So – and like obviously there's been like rumors and stuff before and Brianna has like really defended them and came for anyone who's criticized like the relationship. But I think it's really telling that literally before you even announced your breakup, you – and actually in her video, her video was posted yesterday. She said we broke up yesterday. So that must have been –

Monday, then I guess they officially broke up. So it all is so weird. Oh my God. So the second they broke up, he went on Raya.

Yikes. Well, he just sounds like a really awful partner. Like, he may be an okay human, but it sounds like a really not – or not a good space to have a relationship now. Yeah. So it's like – Didn't they just, like, move in together too? Yeah. They think he bought a house and – And a dog. Yeah. I guess he did that with his previous girlfriend too. He got a dog. And around the same – again, towards the end of their relationship. Those poor dogs. Like, jeez. Like, let them have a – I know. And it's – there's been a lot of, like –

like therapists on TikTok, like trying to like analyze him and stuff. What do they say? He has this weird like – I forget what the word – almost like dissociative thing or something like that. Yeah. I don't know. Something, yeah. I really do think he has something. Like a commitment trigger. Like as soon as he gets committed, he has to jump ship or something like that. Yeah. And it's also the fact that he's I guess allegedly been like actively cheated on his relationship too. Yeah. There's usually something deeper for sure. Yeah. Yeah.

Which is, like, not nice to the women. I know she seemed – I honestly, like, obviously, like, felt so bad. I've been feeling bad for Bri because I feel like, in general, she was, like, going through something because she just had, like, bad take and defense and, you know, aggressive and mean and just, like, just horrible. So I was like, gosh, she seems like she's taking something out on other people. Do you know what I mean? Like, when people are, like –

lashing out and stuff, you always think like maybe they're like taking like something else out on this because it was just so weird. Like the gray stuff, everything, and like her doubling down. And I don't know. It was like very odd. But I guess she's like maybe in this relationship, she was the one that was getting the shit out of the stick. So she just wanted to be with everyone else around her or something. I don't know. Yeah. And I get – I think a lot of people are –

on her side in this too right because i mean it's pretty obvious that zach has some kind of issue and like isn't like you said not a good partner doesn't really treat his the his like girlfriends well didn't tell her he was gonna post the announcement yeah i didn't tell her he was gonna announce that they were broken up and stuff uh that's the worst oh i hate it i know and but then yeah then i keep seeing both sides right so then other people like well yeah even though it is he was

Like she also kind of did things because

people are saying like you know she knew that zach was in a relationship when they started talking and that she was in a relationship and then she would like when they first got together like she was posting instagrams wearing his ex's hat and like in the hammock that she also yeah no i mean i think we can all agree brie has like mean girl behavior like that's just you know but i think two things can be true i think it's like you can feel bad for a person like the way it was handled like that guy and usually when people are with a piece

boyfriend, like that's when they are kind of the meanest because they're like super insecure. They're super like, you know, they're questioning their relationship. They're being put on this like back and forth or whatever. So I don't know if she's had a history of bad boyfriends before, but it seems like because even with our issue, when she was like making fun of my, you know, OF to people at Barstool, I was just like,

like someone who's like super insecure with themselves because like why are you making fun of my OF with like showing people in the office this like it's you're kind of weird so maybe she had like a bad thing happening back then too where she just felt like she felt in control to like be mean to other people that's the only thing I can get with mean girl energy is like they've bullies are like this too like they'll have like a bad home life so then they go to school and be mean to people because they feel like some sort of control or power by being mean to others so I

I think it's, like, safe to say, obviously, yes, Brie is, like, mean girl energy. I mean, she's young. I had mean girl energy when I was younger, so I'm not, like, judging. But I do – like, obviously, you can still feel bad for someone that's gotten cheated on. It is a tough one. It's, like, Khloe, too, right? Like, she got with –

Who was it? Tristan. Oh, yeah. When his girlfriend was pregnant and then she gets cheated on when she's pregnant. I mean, I think if that's one thing to like bring awareness to is like, yeah, the lose them how you get them. Like if you meet someone that way, like you're probably not going to be the exception. Yeah. To the role like unless they're like 80 years old or something like that. And even then, like who knows? But I just think it's – yeah. Yeah.

And yeah, I guess if you're like flaunting it in someone's face, like, oh, I'm wearing – I don't know if that's true, the hat thing. Like is it pretty true? It's pretty factual? It seems like it. But I mean maybe. Maybe she didn't really know. Because that's wild. If you're like, look at me with your hat on. Like that's kind of – like it's one thing to wear like his hoodie or something and be like, okay, I look at whatever. Yeah, I mean they're both in relationships. They met each other. Yeah, they're both – it's just inevitable to happen that way unfortunately. Yeah, and I –

Same, like, obviously, like, I get...

I don't know. Something about seeing her crying. I don't know. I just feel bad for a girl. Oh, same. Even if, like, she's been a little dubious in the past. That's where I was going originally. It's like, I, like, really felt bad. I've been feeling bad for her because I was like, wow, I feel like she is going through something. I can, like, see that enough. And then to see that and just, like, her shaking and, like, being on the floor and crying and feeling blindsided. Like, I, like, I know all those feelings. That was me so many times. Like, I was always crying about a boy for so many, like, every year it seemed. So, like...

And it is the worst. And she's like, you know, you give everything you have to a relationship and it's still not enough. And I've been that way too where it's like, God, it's – and it's the worst feeling. And it is a type. It's like – it's a lot of like – I guess just famous people are like this. I mean maybe like regular people are like this too, but specifically famous people where –

And I don't know. And I'm not speaking for her. For me, it was always like they were feeding me like a delusion. Not delusion. They were feeding me a fantasy. They're like, oh, we're going to get married. We got a house together. We're going to do this. Like we're going to have babies. And then it's like, so you give everything you have. Like I'm not going to auditions. I'm not going to jobs. I'm just going to wait and be ready for this person and be waiting for them whenever they need me so they know I'm like girlfriend material. I'm like – and I would. I would fly. I would pay for myself to fly places. I would do whatever. I would be anywhere they needed me to be and like everything else.

So then when that ends and you're like, oh my God, I just like literally like wasted three years of my life not seeing friends, not going to jobs just so I could like wait around for this guy hoping we could like, you know, be together and have kids or whatever. And then that all ends. And especially abruptly – I've had that happen too. My first ever exposed video was that when someone – I like emailed someone about something and I was like – because he blocked me on text and I was just like, oh, you have a girlfriend? And he's like, do me a favor and never talk to me again. And I was like, oh, bad.

Like, let me make this video. And that was my first ever exposed video in like 2015. And I was like, absolutely not. I moved into a new house. I thought you told me we were going to be together. I moved, I uprooted my life. Like, I like, absolutely not. You're not going to say that. So it is the worst, the worst feeling ever. And it's just like, yeah, when you feel like you had your whole life planned. On top of then the internet, mine wasn't public. On top of it being public and the whole internet already rooting against you. Like, they've always said that. It's like, he's going to cheat and he's going to do this. The year and a half's up. Like,

That's the worst. And then like he tells everybody. It's like also I think good rule of thumb and how to rule relationship. The guy should not be the one to say the breakup. Like either do it mutually or let the girl do it. You know what I mean? I think a guy doing it before giving you like a chance to like talk about it or something. That's weird. It's like weird. I guess because he was on Riot. He's just like, we're single so I'm on Riot. Yeah.

Also, like, don't get on Raya that quickly. Especially when you're in a public relationship. Like, chill. You probably can meet girls at your show. Like, chill. That's true, right? Like, why do you have to be on Raya? Yeah. And obviously, I mean, allegedly, he had no problem meeting girls before. I guess he had this pattern of, like, when he was on tour and she wasn't there, like, he would follow girls and then –

Oh. Yeah. So that's why – And then follow. I saw someone saying that's why like Brianna was on tour with him because she was like worried. And I've been in that relationship too where like you'd like want to go with the person. I remember Valentine's Day when I had my boobs ripped out of me. Like I literally just got my boobs done and I went with this guy on a trip and it was like a week later after I got my boobs done and they told me don't go. Like, you know, just rest because, you know, you got implants done and he ripped me out of the car and my boobs like ripped open and it's why I have a scar. My implants came out. But I was like if it's not me going on Valentine's Day, he's going to find another girl to go to Valentine's Day with him so I need to be the one and it's like that's

also a horrible feeling it's just like the worst i feel like if anything like this these situations hopefully girls learn it's like guys like the celebrities being like oh we're gonna get found out you know if we drug someone or we do this or whatever it's like it's the equivalent of like i don't know girls should know these are the red flags to look out for in a relationship like yeah and it's like is it really worth it like i know there are perks obviously of dating someone who's famous like you know the money and stuff but it like

It's so embarrassing at the end. It's so embarrassing. At the end of the day, I really – like I love celebrity more than anything. I thought like for sure – I literally was never going to date anyone that wasn't a celebrity. I was like if you're not even like a D-list, I don't want to – why would I ever date you? But it's like – it's just not worth it. I'm obsessed with celebrities. I'm obsessed and I still – whatever. I never envy anyone that's like married to a celebrity. I mean we've seen it like –

I don't know, just in general, like, because girls that don't know they're married, whatever, people, you know, people meeting them, whatever, you just always have to worry about them. And I think we hear – we see it a lot. Obviously, Dave Grohl, who's been married for 30 years with three children, all of a sudden has, like, a baby. And it's just like, what? And everyone thinks Dave Grohl is a family man. Like, you know, it's just always the people you just, like, wouldn't expect. But that fame, it, like, does something. I don't know if it's just, like, temptation. It's just, like, everywhere and you just, like, cannot resist it. I don't know. I mean, I would like to believe there are some faithful, famous people, but you just hear –

Everybody cheating always. More so guys. I mean, I guess girls do it too, like Kristen Stewart. But I guess more so guys do it. It'll be interesting to see what Brianna says. Because I guess Zach's other exes, some people think they signed NDAs or something because they never came forward to say anything. But people don't think Brianna did. Well, they're probably private. True. Yeah, they're not public figures. Yeah.

It'll be interesting to see like if Brianna goes full like I guess you like full exposed, you know, which I think she should. I think you should. Yeah, I think it's kind of like even that Aspen who's like who was like I'm not going to talk about my divorce and now she's like full on like sharing every little tidbit why they went on the honeymoon and why they kissed on their honeymoon and what the mother is doing like all this crazy stuff and I was like,

Because it's better, I guess, than people speculating, right? Don't you want people to like know? Yeah. Especially if you've been getting like hated on for a year and a half. Yeah. I think at this point, like people will sympathize if you've been like cheated on by this person because like, okay, this is just,

You know, I do think she can get all the sympathy points because it's like, again, I do think I feel bad for her. I truly do. But I think she's been just so reckless and like careless with like her words and her actions. It's like maybe people can kind of understand because maybe there was some manipulation where, you know, they did buy a house together and she moved out of New York City for him and she's like, this is my life now. I have a slow paced life. And then all of a sudden it's like ripped on for underneath you. And it's like, I don't know where she is now. She's at the house. I don't know. You know, it's kind of. But are they doing BFF still? No.

I don't think so. She posted that video yesterday. So will they just be back with Josh and Dave? Probably. She said she wanted to take some time to heal, so I'm assuming. What's it say? Oh, maybe they pre-filmed. They have one going up today at 5 p.m. What's it called? And Brianna's in the thumbnail. Dave Poinari recaps his gift from Taylor Swift. Oh. They should have clickbaited it a little better with all the Brianna stuff happening. At least they put her in the thumbnail. Maybe that's...

They should just call it like recent drama with Brianna. The first comment is, this was filmed before Bri and Zach's breakup. Or it was filmed yesterday or Monday.

Oh, so wait, but they were broken up on Monday. Yeah, it was T. Maybe it was before. That'd be so interesting though. She's like talking about it as if they're not broken up. Because you know, I did this too in a relationship where it's like when you break up, you like pretend like you're not for a few months. Yeah. You know, so maybe she was like still like acting like they were together. Or I mean, I think they fought and kind of broken up and then got back together a couple times. So recently she just said, yeah, there was a thing, but now we're fine. Yeah. So maybe she thought it would be like that.

Yeah. And then obviously him posting a statement, it's like, oh, well, I guess that's not happening because you made it public, you know? So now it's like really, really over. Yeah. Oh, God. And that's like the worst too because you always like hope you'll get back together. Yeah, that's wild. It's so weird. I've never lived with anyone. I don't know how it works. But like I wonder when you break up, like who leaves? Yeah.

I know. It's T. And I think – I didn't know Zach had so much money. But I was reading. I guess he must have a lot of money because he has like the private jets and all this property and stuff. Really? I guess country music, you do make a lot of money, especially like all the live performances. He was playing really big like stadiums and stuff too. Wow. Because I only know – Because I'm here. Yeah. When Brooke went to go with Brianna to go see him. Right. I only know via Brooke Schofield's Instagram stories that he has a pretty big crowd. Who's listening to him? Like for real. Like what's the demographic? I don't know.

As like a 40-year-old man? Like that's what I would assume would be at these concerts. I don't know. No shade to 40-year-olds. We love 40-year-olds. I think he was really popular with like young girls too because I mean he's getting – he has access to so many. I think that's how he was able to allegedly cheat so much is just because he had like young fans. Yeah.

I think so you're wild oats I guess. I mean not to shame him but I think it's always the ones too that are not typically the hottest. There is something. Very true. The more dubious ones are the ones that are not the most stereotypically hot ones right? I think because they like never got the attention properly like if he wasn't

a country superstar like i'm sure because he was in the military i'm sure like people in the military weren't like oh my god they're so hot like i'm getting all these chicks you know what i mean maybe but i doubt it so i feel like when you're a country star it's like you know your talent makes you hotter yeah that always happens right yeah it's so yeah interesting i don't know oh i know i felt i felt i felt bad for her

But I do think sometimes she is a little out of reality. Like, don't make videos about this. It's like, okay, well. I know. And also, it's like you have two gossipy podcasts and where nothing is off limits. Like, you talk about breakups. I mean, again, if I had to pick a side, I'm obviously on Brianna's side. But, like, okay. No. Like, what he said. I would ask y'all not to respect my privacy, but I wouldn't. And it's like, yeah, it's true. It's like when you're the hot topic. But they both...

Like I remember they grilled Josh so hard on his like breakup. Who was it? Was it? It was during the Nessa, Josh. There was like a little like. Oh, yes. A little love. Maddie or I don't know. Mads. Mads, yeah. There was like all of them and they were all talking about it and Dave would not let up. Like they were going so hard on Josh for like a year about this breakup or whatever like that and it's like they go so easy on like Brie. Like you know what I mean? Which I guess when you see a girl maybe they should go easier on her but still it's like kind of like a double standard. Like you said, you can go hard on so many people. I mean absolutely there was something that happened with that. I mean I'm not going to be like

Guys, don't talk about us. Like, you know what I mean? There would be an emergency BFFs on the floor. Yeah, for sure. It's like, you know, that happens. That's to be expected. Especially when you are so public. But it does suck. Breakups suck. Especially a public one. Especially when the guy's... He is the point blank period in this. I mean, we assume. Yeah. I mean, all signs point to that. It is... But also, like, his whole...

The PR side on his end too, right? It's like, how do you ever spin that? I guess because I feel like people were into his music because it was kind of like, I don't know. There was like romantic. Again, I haven't heard a thing. I'm just research. Oh. So like there was some about like his breakup. He's like the sensitive guy. Almost like maybe like a John Mayer. I feel like a John Mayer pre like the Jessica Simpson like sexual napalm thing. Everyone was like, oh, he's romantic because the way that he sings about women. Like your body is a wonderland, you know? Right. Right.

He's like sensitive. He's in tune with emotions. Kind of creepy though. And then now it's like you can't really look at him the same, right? Okay. So I didn't know. I would assume country music people, fans don't care. Take it for me. Yeah. I feel in general country music is dubious. Like do you know what I mean? Like everybody is problematic. Was it Morgan Wallen? Like I don't even know any of his songs but he's just a mess and people are like yeah.

Like, I think it's like the one place where like cancellations make you cool. Like they're like, yeah, you know, I don't know. It's like they're weird because they sing about like trucks and cheating all the time. Like I think that's just like cool and country world. I guess. This seems like the Hak Tua kind of audience.

I don't know. Definitely. Yeah. Hawk Tua and Zach Bryan should get together. You know the team. To like perform. Brianna's episode of Hawk Tua was yesterday. Oh. But then they took it down. Oh. Because they announced the breakup. Zach posted his breakup story like 10 minutes after. So it was only for like 10 minutes. Oh, they didn't do it. I was going to say, I thought they were like sitting on it. Because she talked a month ago about filming it. So I'm like, what if they were sitting on it? Like this is our moment to post it.

I would have. We would have kept it up. Yeah. We. Yeah. Because it was filmed pre. Oh, because like did you see it? Maybe she was talking about them or something. There was like a transcript and like she did talk about like respond. She did get asked by Haley about like, you know, people commenting on her relationship or whatever. And she kind of like it was kind of like a non-answer where she kind of like talked it off or whatever. Like, yeah, people are whatever. Oh, yikes. And then like one of those ones like, oh, God, it didn't age well. Yeah.

I mean, it was good timing for them. Do you think she asked him to take it down or do you think they just took it down? I feel like they got asked, don't you think? I hate that when people do that. It's like, we just spent so much time like doing this interview. Like, it's so annoying when people are like, don't post it. It's obvious that it was filmed before. Yeah, definitely. Nobody thinks he filmed it right after the breakup. Yeah. I mean, just like let that go. I mean, I guess that's nice that he took it down, but I think for me, it's like, we just filmed. Or you cut out if there's...

If there's a part that was here. Oh, yeah. Good point. Like, why take the whole thing down? Oh, my God. One time, I won't say what guest. One time we had someone, like, we filmed, like, for 90 minutes or, like, two hours or something. And the PR person wanted, like, literally everything cut. Like, it was literally down to, like, 23 minutes. And I was, like, I had to go, like, around the PR person to the other person. I'm, like, hey, like,

respect your wishes for sure. It was a really great episode. I'm like, but like, can we leave some of these stories into at least make it to an hour? Because like, wow, she wants the entire thing cut. There was like one thing that like, it was wild. Then I was like, oh my God, that's awful. Honestly, my experience with PR people, I,

I had one that I did not hire. I was like with a management company and they had like a PR person or something and she came with me to like, was it one or two? Maybe two. A couple of times. A couple of things. This girl was so annoying. She's like, no, you shouldn't say that. Like so many things and I was like, I did not hire you first of all. She just like came with me. I had to tell them on like the third one to be like, this person, like never have this person come again. There was one at our house. Mm-hmm.

But the main thing is that they talk in your name when you didn't ask for and they just assume they know what you want or. Oh, oh, she was like going through my closet, my personal closet. It was a photo shoot. That's what it was. Yeah. It was like a magazine photo shoot and they needed some accessories and stuff, which we always tell them, like, you bring what you need. You know, they expect to come here and shop at the house, you know? Yeah. And then suddenly I go up to our bedroom and to the closet, like her closet is a locked one.

and I see these two girls just standing there looking through her jewelry and stuff. One was the

And they kind of like, they kind of jumped when they saw me. They're like, oh, she told us we can come up here. I was like, no. Stylist, I guess I could maybe understand. Because they had come up there before because we didn't shoot. I would understand the stylist. But why is that PR person going through here? But she was awful because anything I would wear, no, don't wear that. You don't want to say that. That's too much cleavage. I'm like, first of all, aren't you a PR person? Like, awkward. She was like, she was somebody I didn't even hire. I was like, get me. And it was always, I always got the roles myself, the jobs myself. And I was like,

Yeah. The problem with PR is that sometimes they need to create work for themselves. So they say more than needed. You know what I mean? Yeah. She didn't say like, okay, she kind of knows what to say. She's been doing it for many years. Yeah. I guess I don't know. Maybe I shouldn't talk about it. I don't know. But I guess it's fine. I didn't say who it was. No, no. Just in general. I think it's general true about PR people. Yeah. Just in general.

Because the person that I did go rush was, oh, no, it's fine. You can like leave like everything in because that's just like what I talk about or whatever. And they didn't know or something. And I was like, okay. So it's just, yeah, it's like a lot. I was like, okay. But it just does suck when you have like such a good interview and then everyone wants everything cut. And you want to be respectful of loss. So you're like, but that's like good. And something, most of my interviews are never like anything hard hitting. It's stuff I've heard before. You know what I mean? So I was like, but I've heard you talk about this on other. And what people don't see is that usually the guest tells you like,

I want to talk about everything. I want to be an open book. I want to speak about... They say that. Yeah. And we tell them ahead of time. And usually somebody else, you know. So you have to check with the talent. That's happened a few times. Yeah. Yeah. That's actually one more than one occasion. Someone's like...

everything in and then like we get all these notes from someone later i didn't know that person well enough to do that but this other one i was like okay we only have 20 minutes of a podcast so like we need to it is wild yeah i think once they wanted to some of the things on the list were things you were telling about yourself i was like okay oh yeah you should definitely someone's pr person wanted me to cut stories that i told about me and i was like okay like okay it's kind of random there yeah it is it is always so it's always interesting who brings pr people and who doesn't

I don't know, but how do we even get on that? Rihanna has a PR person up. Haktua. Man, we were trying to- She must have PR, though. Anything? Oh, but her team is like crazy. Does she have anything about PR? Yeah, I think she has so much PR, so much to manage. Because it's like 5,000 layers to get to her. Because we were trying to schedule a day, and I was like, these are the only days I can do, because it's the only time we have help watching the kids play.

It was like so much back and forth. I'm like, honestly, I don't think it's going to work. Because it was like, they had to get approval from like three managers and dates kept changing. I was like, For Haley or Brionne? Yeah, Haley. Oh, Haley, Haley. Okay. And it's like,

I'm suspecting that with her, in her case, they will ask to cut most of the interesting stuff. Oh, he said that he's like, maybe ask if they're going to bring a PR person because I would love to ask questions. Who's actually coming and who's actually going to approve the episode and all that. Yeah. Because you want to ask the real questions and nobody's asking them. So somebody is preventing that. Yeah, it's so weird. People are like, okay, but like what? Like it is odd. Very strange. Yeah, like the real Hayley. Yeah. Underneath the hawk and the tua. Yeah. Yeah.

Not just her persona and stuff. Yeah. It is interesting. Well, I feel like this is the time Brianna should be on social media. She should talk about it. I know. Maybe it would take a week to like, you know, deal with the emotions of it all. But then, girl, this is...

can be relatable again, you know? For sure. I think it does bring it to that as like, okay, we've all been there and we like, and it's on such a bigger scale. And like everyone does, like you said, everyone is on Brianna's side like at this point, you know what I mean? It's like, okay, she has some hot takes, whatever, but it's like, okay, this is like kind of sad. I don't think if she does like take accountability and stuff and does like clock herself on the things people are clocking her on like about, you know, the overlap with like her ex-boyfriend Joey and then the timing of this one. I think she would never talk about that, right? I don't think she would either, but I, this is, that would be my advice to be like, you know what? If you are just fully transparent, you're like,

honestly like i met him and then i realized that we just had such a big spark and i wanted to explore and it already wasn't working with my ex before like who knows the context of like her last relationship maybe it was already like fizzling out and then she met this guy and like right you know i think there's an explanation there but i feel like yeah she talks like she has two podcasts she should be able to talk about it you know what i mean a lot of platforms i think it

I think it'll, like, come out. I think it'll, like, come out. I think maybe in, like, 10 years she can, like, self-reflect a little better. That's true. You know what I mean? I think in a week she'll have the 50-part TikTok series. I would love Who the F did I marry? I want to do a 50-part series so bad. So that would be so good. I just don't have anything on it. But, like, to get something like this, like, Who the F did I date? It would be, like, you got pushed at the sweat tour. It'd be, like, the 50-part.

I need – I know. I need a 50-part series of something. Nothing bad. But that's so true. She could get like a Lifetime movie based on her life. Like that would be insane. People would listen to it too because people are so invested. It is a wild thing to see people so invested in this relationship. I didn't really realize – I mean again, maybe I'm just on a completely different part of like the internet I suppose. But –

Yeah, it was crazy once that got announced like officially how it just blew up and it was like everywhere. Yeah. I remember when she started dating him. I didn't know who he was. I knew who her was. I still hardly know. Yeah. I guess he has lots of fans. Lots of money too apparently. Damn, country music is the way to go. Maybe we can get on it. Have you ever released a country song? Maybe in Christmas is country. Oh, really? I'm trying to get to the market.

It's like a good place to get into. It sounds like a lot of money and whatever. Yeah, it's very country. Zach has a song called Pink Skies. Maybe we could clap. Pink Christmas Skies. Maybe come to my show. We can do a remix or what is it called? A matchup, like Lee style. I was going to do Pink Pony Club, but hey, Pink Skies sound good too. How do you think Pink Skies go without hearing it? How do you think it goes? Your cheeks were pink like the skies.

Blushin' when you kiss me in the lights. That's so good. But baby, I don't know if it's as pink as those cookies at Ralph's. No, I thought you were going to. But those guys are pink like what's in between your legs. That's what I was going to say. Why does everyone think of pink when they think of that? Mine is not pink. Why does everyone think pink? Oh my God.

Anyways, I don't know. There's a restaurant here, Pink Tacos. Oh, Pink Taco closed. Oh, they did? And why is it called Pink Tacos there? It was a bit inappropriate. That was crazy. You're blushing. I love when my eyes are like blushes. Your face gets like... Especially with these clothes. It's so warm. And I'm shaving. I can't believe you blasted. So anyway, this is like not... It doesn't have any suntan. So I'm just like... I like your little blush. I look like an English drunk. Oh, what? Okay.

They have like red cheeks when they're drunk. So random, okay. Like an Englishman. English drunk. What are you ending your look on? What do you look like after a three-hour, a two-hour episode, two-and-a-half-hour episode?

now what do you think can you see yourself i guess you can't see yourself i can't really see my in my head i'm slaying but then every time i go back to look sometimes every time i wear a wig like towards the end it's like always you know like no you'll be happy when you see the episode i wish this was the first episode we filmed and i thought that this is what you look like no this is your look this is your luck for sure fia who plays um my sister in the show

in House of the Dragon DM me but I was just scared to open it but I'm in my head wait why should I look at it now yeah okay maybe she wanted to come today in my head she's like I want to come I know maybe she heard I was going to be her sibling and was like oh oh my gosh I get too scared to open things too she said you are so lovely

And then she'd like my Instagram story. Wow. Did you post this look? No, but maybe I'll tag her. Yeah. You look so sick. Oh, my God. Well, I am so excited. This Halloween episode has been so much fun, you guys. We have one more full week left of Halloween episodes. And I can't wait for you guys to see our costumes. Is it a surprise or have we talked about it?

Which one? Our costumes next week? The Hunger Games one we've been talking about for like three months. I was going to say, prepare to be surprised. They know who's coming. They know what everyone is wearing. We might have a few surprises. Maybe a Hunger Games cast member might show up. I don't know. Could you surprise everyone with one? That'd be crazy. We get an actual Haymitch to be Haymitch like Woody Harrelson comes on.

If you're out there, we need one. You'll win the contest. That'd be crazy. That'd be wild. All right. Thanks, guys, for watching. We love you guys. Check out patreon.com slash justtrish and check out DraftKings. We love you. And we'll see you in the next haunted Halloween episode. Bye-bye. Toodles.